Comments

• Josh Bell

  2008-10-24 19:49:32

  Again this is one moment in time and it is now above $4. Why not mention that world markets are in a horrible position right now? Why not mention other public tech companies that support OSS that have done poorly as well.
  
  Roy you may not like Novell but to continue to harp on the fact they dropped to something like 3.98 for all of 15 minutes is truly shameful.

• twitter

  2008-10-24 20:15:56

  Shameful is having a share price close to what it was 11 years ago when you clearly had the staff to exploit new markets. Google, Red Hat, IBM and Apple have all been better investments despite the recent downturn. They all have business models that work and products and services people want. Every piece of M$ direction Novell follows is self destructive. M$ is big but they are obsolete and alone in a world they loath.

• Gentoo User

  2008-10-24 20:30:37

  Are you the same twitter from Slashdot?
  
  Note: comment arrived from a witch hunter that does not even use GNU/Linux.
  
  

• twitter

  2008-10-24 21:59:24

  yes, come lurk with me in IRC.

• Gentoo User

  2008-10-25 00:36:59

  I guess you're everybody here as well, right?
  
  Note: comment arrived from a witch hunter that does not even use GNU/Linux.
  
  

• Anonymous

  2008-10-25 14:01:34

  Look at the numbers of last 1, 2 or 6 months, Novell is doing equally well or even slightly better than Nasdaq and Dow Jones.

• Roy Schestowitz

  2008-10-25 14:27:50

  True. Nevertheless, it may force it to rethink its status as a public company. Bear in mind that Novell is buying back its own stock. Had it not, the stock would be worth a lot less right now (the same goes for MSFT). The NASDAQ and Dow Jones have no mechanisms like buybacks, obviously.

• Needs Sunlight

  2008-10-25 15:07:24

  The stock buy backs could be examined more closely. There have been several looks published suggesting that M$ makes more buying and selling its own stock than it does with Windoze and Orifice. How long ago did M$ cross over the bright line demarcating fraud from business?
  
  M$ on its own, and via Novell, seem more a protection racket than anything else. As such, R.I.C.O. should be applicable.

• Roy Schestowitz

  2008-10-25 15:22:39

  There were allegations of fraud before. Microsoft squashed them by settling (twice).

• Roy Schestowitz

  2008-10-25 15:23:55

  Quite timely from today's news (IDG):
  
  http://www.pcworld.com/article/152830/.html?tk=rss_news
  
  "Greenspan, Cox tell Congress that bad data hurt Wall Street's computer models: Insufficient and faulty data used in risk management models contributed to the financial mess embroiling the U.S. and rippling across the globe, said former U.S. Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan."
  
  If the government can botch it, why not corporations?

• Duke

  2008-10-26 03:21:58

  Twitter while you and Roy bicker, I'll continue to use Novell products to protect my Windows Infrastructure, because after 8 years MS still hasn't gotten securing a network OS right. Remember when Netware had an A2 rating from the DOD (the hightest rating available) Windows has a C2 raiting (the lowest)...what to know why? CUZ Windows and IP suck...Windows is an Application OS...not a networking OS. There is a big difference ...kiddies today with no networking experience don't realize how secure things use to be.

• Anonymous

  2008-10-26 08:24:53

  > Bear in mind that Novell is buying back its own stock. Had it not, the stock would be worth a lot less right now
  
  I don't agree, stock buybacks have only a short-term effect on the stock prizes.

• Roy Schestowitz

  2008-10-26 08:45:48

  Buybacks do not occur overnight. They are spread over periods of time and as far I know, Novell is still buying up its stock.
  
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buyback
  
  "Another motive for stock repurchase is to protect the company against a takeover threat."

• PeterKraus

  2008-10-26 12:52:00

  Duke: I guess the point is to not use Windows at all ;) Yes, you can no longer bypass log-in prompt by pressing escape key (Win 95,98).

• aa aaada

  2008-11-20 16:01:26

  "Google, Red Hat, IBM and Apple have all been better investments despite the recent downturn."
  
  Have you looked at their stock prices? They've all crashed significantly too. Take a look at the numbers and tell me which one is the best investment.
  
  Apple: 3 months ago, ~$120 Now, ~$90
  
  IBM: 3 months ago, ~$125 Now, ~$75
  
  Red Hat: 3 months ago, ~$22 Now, ~$9
  
  Novell: 3 months ago, ~$6 Now, ~$4