Bonum Certa Men Certa

Novell Still Insults Competing GNU/Linux Distributions and Sun's OpenOffice.org

Sellout



Yesterday we wrote to mention very briefly Novell's "attack" (not our word) on Red Hat. Given the people involved [1, 2], this should not be surprising.



In the press release, what does Novell mean by "third-party Linux distribution"? Is there now a distinction between Novell SUSE and some "third parties", which is an insulting term?

Novell today announced the availability of a new subscription and support program designed to aid customers making the transition from their existing third-party Linux* distribution to SUSE(R) Linux Enterprise Server. The SUSE Linux Enterprise Server Subscription with Expanded Support program includes a three-year subscription to SUSE Linux Enterprise Server that provides technical support for a customer's existing Linux deployments for up to two years while they make the transition to SUSE Linux Enterprise.


"Third parties" are mentioned again further down in the press release:

The new program is in response to growing customer demand for help as they make the strategic decision to transition their data center Linux infrastructure from existing third-party distributions, such as Red Hat* Enterprise Linux and CentOS, to SUSE Linux Enterprise Server.


At the bottom it says:

Novell and SUSE are registered trademarks of Novell Inc. in the U.S. and other countries. *All third-party trademarks are the property of their respective owners.


What do they mean by third parties? That it's merely a compromise? That it's "unsupported" (another derogatory term)? That it's inferior and foreign? It's a very xenophobic term, as we explained before. We have already criticised the term "non-proprietary", which we saw repeated in [1, 2, 3]. It can sometimes be used when striving to suggest that there is something wrong with Free(dom) software and that it is "non appropriate". Wording is always important due to mental and verbal connotations.

One of our regular trolls (a site heckler) accused us yesterday of inappropriately calling Novell's latest tactics "predatory". Well, when one GNU/Linux vendor antagonises another in this way (by cutting its revenue stream while still exploiting its product), then it's bound to be called an attack, even in the 'mainstream' press. From IDG (NetworkWorld) comes the headline:

Novell lays out Red Hat attack plan



Matt Asay put a sarcastic spin on it, saying that "Novell builds bridges...from Red Hat to SUSE." Wasn't Novell supposed to accommodate migrations to GNU/Linux from other platforms, through so-called bridges to other platforms?

I continue to believe the real revenue opportunity for Novell (and Red Hat) is Unix replacements, not internecine competition between Linux vendors.


Why doesn't Novell compete against Microsoft Windows anymore? Could it be because Novell is now working with (and for) Microsoft? Well, not in the literal sense.

Novell is not only pulling such tricks against Red Hat. It's doing something similar to Sun Microsystems, as well. Novell forked OpenOffice.org [1, 2] and Sam Dean unfortunately brings attention to this dangerous fork and promotes it with the headline "Go-oo: A Lighter, Faster OpenOffice, With Extras."

Go-oo is a fork of OpenOffice version 2.4, for Windows and Linux.


"Be aware of this," says longtime LinuxToday reader GreyGeek.

from a comment:

"by masoman on Nov. 11, 2008

Your readers need to be aware that the go-oo fork of OpenOffice.org is very much a bleeding edge developers' version, which has not been through the full QA process run by the OpenOffice.org folks. It's also paid for indirectly by Microsoft licence fees, through Microsoft's funding of Novell (the home of go-oo)."

As another commenter said: "Maybe I'm off-base, but it looks to me like MS-infected OOo. It's coming from Novell (which I refuse to use), and is paid for by MS-license fees.

Sure, I'm paranoid, but I'm not touching this...."


We have already shown how Novell insults OpenOffice.org in order to market its own fork of the popular software and grab customers away from Sun. Shouldn't Novell try to appeal more to Microsoft Office users (by far the majority), preferably by working together with Sun, as opposed to stomping it (along with ODF)?

Speaking of liaising with Microsoft, check out this new story from Ken.

In an effort to help proliferate the Linux Desktop, HeliOS Solutions has contacted a number of Big Box stores and smaller businesses throughout the Austin Metro Area and asked them if we could set up professional and attractive displays for Linux Live CD's.

The response has been surprisingly positive...and I'm talking about some really BIG big box stores.

However, one of those stores asked me to meet with them and discuss some of the anticipated ramifications of them doing so.

They are concerned about Microsoft engaging them legally.

They are worried about Steve Ballmer coming in with a figurative ball bat and legally demolishing the displays....and then suing them amidst the rubble.


Is legal intimidation doing its harms now? If it's related to patents, then remember company helped fuel this. Novell of course.

Gates on SUSE

Recent Techrights' Posts

Corruption is a Reality, It's Not a Dirty or a Strong Word
Corruption is a topic some newspapers shy away from
Rosanna Yuen & GNOME community triple tricked
Reprinted with permission from Daniel Pocock
IBM Layoffs Not Done, Terminations of Staff in India, Brazil, and Mexico Reported
This hopefully answers questions such as, "do the layoffs only impact US and Canada?"
 
Advocates of GNU/Linux and the Uphill Battles Behind Us
GNU/Linux felt like "activism" 20 years ago. Now it's mainstream.
Cybersecurity Means Real Security, Not Back Doors
Standing our ground on technology and cybersecurity is an uncompromisable stance
Links 08/11/2025: Disinformation Crisis, Denmark Recognises Threats Associated With Social Control Media
Links for the day
The Free Software Foundation (FSF) is Besieged for the Times It Does the Right Things
As that upsets rich people's interests (and they were, at times, sponsors)
Links 08/11/2025: Technical and Financial GAFAM Woes and Arrests of Journalists by Despots
Links for the day
Like SUSE, IBM Red Hat Seems to be Using LLM Slop to Write Fake (Bot-Generated) Blog Posts
IBM Red Hat keeps promoting slop
How German Media Covered Cocainegate at The European Patent Office (EPO)
At some point we'll ask that same press to revisit the issue and this time comment on the EPO connection
Our Launch of Techrights Search Has Been Successful (So Far)
There are about 50,000 articles indexed there, going 19+ years back
Daniel Pocock Explains Social Engineering in Debian and Other Communities Increasingly Controlled by "Barons"
Communities are not corporations
Over at Tux Machines...
GNU/Linux news for the past day
IRC Proceedings: Friday, November 07, 2025
IRC logs for Friday, November 07, 2025
Adrian & Diana von Bidder-Senn, Debian: detailed history of a death
Reprinted with permission from Daniel Pocock
Crypto AG tricked ETH Zurich student internship
Reprinted with permission from Daniel Pocock
An Old Story of Fraud at the EPO in the Netherlands (and How the Dutch Government Facilitated It)
We've already mentioned several other scandals where the the Dutch government engaged in fraud and passive corruption
Voicing Concerns About European Patent Office (EPO) in Rijswijk
The report is dated yesterday
Gemini Links 08/11/2025: KeePassRX and Pluribus
Links for the day
Slopwatch: Brian Fagioli Targets "Linux" With LLMs, Google News Helps Blame "Linux" for Amazon WorkSpaces Flaws
Tonight's slopfest
Gemini Links 07/11/2025: Switzerland, k3s, and Privacy
Links for the day
Links 07/11/2025: Software Patents Squashed, Stock Markets Wobble Over Slop Uncertainties
Links for the day
A 19th Anniversary and High-Impact Exclusives
The end of 2025 will be very difficult for EPO management
The Register MS, Payroll First
GNU/Linux is a growing platform
Links 07/11/2025: US Government Shutdown Imperils Critical Functions, Slop in "AI" Clothing Debunked Some More, Bubble's Implosion Ongoing/Imminent According to Experts
Links for the day
Gemini Links 07/11/2025: No Goodbyes, Homelab, Mouse Keys / Pointer Keys
Links for the day
12 Years for Justice is Far Too Slow (and More People, Especially Women, Are Hurt)
Why do police departments and legal systems fail to protect women?
Before Freenode Collapsed Its Staff (the People Who Now Run Libera.Chat) Were Censoring/Silencing Some Free Software Supporters
We still have this issue in the Free software community
Freenode and irc.com Are Still Around
It emulates retro terminals
We Don't Compete, We Analyse and Report
Principles are so much better than money and they're something money can never acquire
Red Hat is Also Laying Off Staff in India
Red Hat is a dishonest company
All We Want to See is Any Form of Accountability in Europe's Largest Institutions
Because people at the top of institutions should never be above the law!
Finding Recent Talks of Richard Stallman
We already have many pages, documents, and media files. Organising them and helping people find them is the next Big Task.
Richard Stallman First Speaker at Ethereum Cypherpunk Congress the Weekend After This Coming Weekend
He'll be speaking over the Net
Diversity at Red Hat
Remember to judge corporations by their actions, not some Web pages with words in them
First the Python Software Foundation (PSF) Attacked Its Most Productive Volunteers. Now It Attacks Its Funding Sources.
The U.S. National Science Foundation (NSF) rejected by PSF
News of Substance About the EPO's Substance Abuse (Cocaine)
EPO Cocaine Chronicles - link to archived BILD article and photos
Over at Tux Machines...
GNU/Linux news for the past day
IRC Proceedings: Thursday, November 06, 2025
IRC logs for Thursday, November 06, 2025
On Midlife Crises
Focus on the sabotage, not politics
Hallmark of Fake News: "Single-digit" (Percentage) and 1% Isn't the Same Thing
apparently "rebalancing" is the new layoffs euphemism
Links 07/11/2025: Patent Trolls Target Germany, Celebrities Visit Ukraine
Links for the day
Misinformation/Disinformation Disguised as Information About GNU General Public Licenses (GNU GPL) Usage
GPL-type licences (reciprocal obligations) remain dominant
Slopwatch: LinuxSecurity, Brian Fagioli, and Google News Boosting WebProNews (All Slopfarms)
Those slopfarms just saturate the Web with misinformation and mindless chaff
Techrights and Tux Machines at Over 40
19 years of Techrights and 21+ years of Tux Machines
IBM Mass Layoffs This Week Not Limited to North America, Red Hat Staff Terminated
Do not relocate for a company that sees you as nothing but a number or a "human resource"
Coming Soon: More Proof of Cocaine Use at Europe's Second-Largest Institution
Stay tuned
Entering Our 20th Year
...and still looking for answers
Mailing lists vs Discourse forums: open source communities or commodities?
Reprinted with permission from Daniel Pocock
Links 06/11/2025: "Component Abuse Challenge", Google Play Store Deemed Too Monopolistic
Links for the day
Microsoft and Microsoft GitHub (and Rust @ Microsoft GitHub) the Future of Ubuntu, They Want the Same for Debian
Ubuntu is not the place to find freedom
Richard Stallman Was Right About LLM-based Chatbots
the passing fad, LLM-based chatbots
IBM Has Not Been Good for IBM's Red Hat (Which Microsoft Also Attempted to Buy)
GAFAM or GIAFAM are not a force for good
Taking Back Control Over Technology We Purchase (Study, Modify, Enhance, and More)
"The war on general-purpose computing continues
Links 06/11/2025: EFF Wants New Executive Director, Microsoft's Azure Falls Over Again
Links for the day
All Set for Tomorrow
Techrights waves
The Corporate Media Carries on With Patently Phony and Misleading Narrative About IBM's Mass Layoffs
Instead of rightly alleging business failure or commercial (leadership's) weakness it is offloading blame to some mindless buzzwords
IBM Isn't Hiring Based on Age Groups. It Still Hires Based on Salary Expectations.
It is not about the skills available, it's about the expected cost of labour
Estimating the Scale of IBM's Mass Layoffs This Week
there is no denying that the IBM layoffs are vast
Telling Our Story as Victims of Online Abuse
This post will not mention any names
Claim That EPO Quotas Brought Corruption and Mischief to Europe's Second-Largest Institution
Nowadays corruption is the norm at the EPO and there is even rampant substance abuse among the people who run the Office
Rust's "Memory Safety" Talking Point Ought to be Discarded in Light of Fil-C
new memory-safe C/C++ compiler
Claim That IBM Has Another 8 Days to Lay Off 'Expensive' Staff
The consensus in comments we see is, IBM is a terrible place to work in, treatment of its workers is appalling, it's utterly foolish to relocate in an effort to retain a job at IBM, and it's foolish to join the company in the first place
Science Demands Facts, Not Dogma
Saying that restricted hardware is not secure hardware should be common sense
Site Anniversary is Tomorrow
The celebrations might delay our EPO series somewhat
Launching Techrights Search
New search interface and locally hosted back end
Over at Tux Machines...
GNU/Linux news for the past day
IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, November 05, 2025
IRC logs for Wednesday, November 05, 2025