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Re: giving money to gnome

On Wed, Nov 19, 1997 at 05:59:54PM +0100, Christian Leutloff wrote:

> Enrique Zanardi <ezanardi@noah.dfis.ull.es> writes:
> 
> > We use the donated money to support GNOME? The KDE people feel insulted.
> > Some Debian developers feel ashamed. What's wrong here? Can't we use
> > _our_ money to support the project _we_ prefer?
> 
> Sure, but we *say* we will use the money we get from one project to
> support a replacement project. That's not nice at all. Instead we

Hey, but it's not nice for us that they use a non-free library. We
encourage others to write free software and to use free software.
KDE unfortunately uses a library that is not free.  We should also
unfortunately them to use or develop a different library.  As a result
of that KDE as a whole is not that free which makes a problem but
it's not our task to fix it.  The normal way in such a situation
is to make the project fix it or start a new one.  I believe this
is one reason Debian exists.

> should say that we'll remove the non-free character from KDE by
> removing the need for Qt. Therefor we should say, that we support the

I think this is the wrong way.  If the KDE folks notice that it makes
problems to depend on a non-free licence they should take care of this
fact and react.

> development of a free Qt. The focus should be on the lib and not on
> the desctop environment.

Why?  Debian should have the freedom to choose any free software
project to support if they want to support a project.  Users should
also have the freedom to use the desktop of their choice.  This means
that there is a choice.


Regards

	Joey

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