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qu1j0t3 | first check you have pecl and gcc: | Dec 13 00:00 |
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qu1j0t3 | which pecl | Dec 13 00:00 |
qu1j0t3 | which gcc | Dec 13 00:00 |
qu1j0t3 | if not, yum install php-pear php-devel gcc | Dec 13 00:00 |
qu1j0t3 | then follow the instructions at top, including creation of /etc/php.d/json.ini | Dec 13 00:00 |
qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: then the other part is, yum install php-xml | Dec 13 00:03 |
qu1j0t3 | and then you should be good to go. | Dec 13 00:04 |
qu1j0t3 | i'll add this to the readme file for tha bot | Dec 13 00:04 |
schestowitz | I used that page, qu1j0t3 | Dec 13 00:05 |
schestowitz | Maybe even pasted the link here | Dec 13 00:05 |
schestowitz | Loaded plugins: fastestmirror | Dec 13 00:05 |
schestowitz | Repository 'centos-copilotco' is missing name in configuration, using id | Dec 13 00:05 |
schestowitz | Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile | Dec 13 00:05 |
schestowitz | Setting up Install Process | Dec 13 00:05 |
schestowitz | Package 1:php-pear-1.4.9-6.el5.noarch already installed and latest version | Dec 13 00:05 |
schestowitz | Package php-devel-5.1.6-27.el5.x86_64 already installed and latest version | Dec 13 00:05 |
schestowitz | Package gcc-4.1.2-48.el5.x86_64 already installed and latest version | Dec 13 00:05 |
schestowitz | Nothing to do | Dec 13 00:05 |
qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: it worked fine for me. | Dec 13 00:05 |
qu1j0t3 | what part fails? | Dec 13 00:06 |
schestowitz | Skipping package "pear/json", already installed as version 1.2.1 | Dec 13 00:06 |
schestowitz | No valid packages found | Dec 13 00:06 |
schestowitz | install failed | Dec 13 00:06 |
qu1j0t3 | fine. | Dec 13 00:06 |
qu1j0t3 | did you create the /etc/php.d/json.ini file? | Dec 13 00:06 |
schestowitz | have now | Dec 13 00:07 |
schestowitz | I did it in another file before... | Dec 13 00:07 |
qu1j0t3 | for a simple test, | Dec 13 00:07 |
qu1j0t3 | php -r 'json_decode("");' | Dec 13 00:07 |
schestowitz | DIfferent instructions I used | Dec 13 00:07 |
qu1j0t3 | if that produces no error, then it's good. | Dec 13 00:07 |
schestowitz | no output | Dec 13 00:07 |
qu1j0t3 | ok cool! | Dec 13 00:08 |
schestowitz | OK, let's try now | Dec 13 00:08 |
qu1j0t3 | no | Dec 13 00:08 |
schestowitz | crash it first | Dec 13 00:08 |
qu1j0t3 | 1 more step | Dec 13 00:08 |
schestowitz | !google qu1j0t3 | Dec 13 00:08 |
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qu1j0t3 | well, that will fail. | Dec 13 00:08 |
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TechrightsBot-sc | Hello World! | Dec 13 00:08 |
TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Main Page - Techrights .::. Size~: 37.79 KB | Dec 13 00:08 |
schestowitz | !google qu1j0t3 | Dec 13 00:08 |
TechrightsBot-sc | [1] - SrinivasaKettenbruch (qu1j0t3) on Twitter | http://twitter.com/qu1j0t3 | Dec 13 00:08 |
TechrightsBot-sc | [2] - Flickr: qu1j0t3 | http://www.flickr.com/people/qu1j0t3/ | Dec 13 00:08 |
TechrightsBot-sc | [3] - _MG_6228 | Flickr - Photo Sharing! | http://www.flickr.com/photos/qu1j0t3/4128892361/ | Dec 13 00:08 |
TechrightsBot-sc | [4] - Adobe Forums: qu1j0t3's Profile | http://forums.adobe.com/people/qu1j0t3 | Dec 13 00:08 |
qu1j0t3 | right, | Dec 13 00:08 |
schestowitz | Ah!!@ | Dec 13 00:08 |
qu1j0t3 | now: yum install php-xml | Dec 13 00:08 |
schestowitz | This is handy | Dec 13 00:08 |
schestowitz | ]When you want to bring up lots of good links | Dec 13 00:08 |
schestowitz | done | Dec 13 00:09 |
schestowitz | is that enough yet? | Dec 13 00:09 |
qu1j0t3 | restart the bot, let's test | Dec 13 00:09 |
schestowitz | !google crash bot | Dec 13 00:10 |
TechrightsBot-sc | [1] - ipcop support • View topic - ipcop crash!!!! BOT or Anything else???? | http://www.ipcops.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php%3Ff%3D7%26t%3D13008 | Dec 13 00:10 |
TechrightsBot-sc | [2] - Crashbot Industries | http://www.crashbotindustries.com/ | Dec 13 00:10 |
TechrightsBot-sc | [3] - GAme crashes when playing with Bots - Urban Terror Forums | http://forums.urbanterror.info/topic/21674-game-crashes-when-playing-with-bots/ | Dec 13 00:10 |
TechrightsBot-sc | [4] - Bot commands crash chat | http://bebot.shadow-realm.org/aoc-0-6-support/bot-commands-crash-chat/ | Dec 13 00:10 |
schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ErinBird/status/13977649500127232 | Dec 13 00:10 |
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TechrightsBot-sc | Hello World! | Dec 13 00:10 |
TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Main Page - Techrights .::. Size~: 37.79 KB | Dec 13 00:10 |
schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ErinBird/status/13977649500127232 | Dec 13 00:11 |
TechrightsBot-sc | @ErinBird: @schestowitz OK, What's the best known Linux distribution that doesn't ship Mono applications?... http://bit.ly/gdPIVj | Dec 13 00:11 |
TechrightsBot-sc | -> Title: OK, What's the best known Linux distribution that doesn't ship Mono applications? .::. Size~: 19.04 KB | Dec 13 00:11 |
schestowitz | :-) | Dec 13 00:11 |
qu1j0t3 | http://twitter.com/ender2070/status/14075653137637376 | Dec 13 00:11 |
TechrightsBot-sc | @ender2070: @schestowitz none of the people currently tracking you are offering a free netbook | Dec 13 00:11 |
schestowitz | neat | Dec 13 00:11 |
schestowitz | !google phirce | Dec 13 00:11 |
TechrightsBot-sc | [1] - Ubuntu 10.04 Increases Mono Dependency | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2010/03/01/ubuntu-mono-games-and-gbrainy/ | Dec 13 00:11 |
TechrightsBot-sc | [2] - Novell Hires More Mono People (Despite Sacking SUSE Developers ... | http://techrights.org/2010/03/19/microsoft-sets-the-tone-with-money/ | Dec 13 00:11 |
TechrightsBot-sc | [3] - Firm Behind Novell Bid Has Shady Past, Could be Tied to Microsoft ... | http://techrights.org/2010/03/04/analysis-of-elliott-singer-and-sco/ | Dec 13 00:11 |
TechrightsBot-sc | [4] - Microsoft as Communism, Revisited | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2009/12/12/communist-smear-vs-free-software/ | Dec 13 00:11 |
qu1j0t3 | !google fuckerberg | Dec 13 00:11 |
TechrightsBot-sc | [1] - Zuck you, Fuckerberg. | Facebook | http://www.facebook.com/group.php%3Fgid%3D2209790843 | Dec 13 00:11 |
TechrightsBot-sc | [2] - Zuck yourself Fuckerberg | Wud First Industries | http://wudfirstindustries.com/node/134 | Dec 13 00:11 |
TechrightsBot-sc | [3] - Mark Fuckerberg | Flickr - Photo Sharing! | http://www.flickr.com/photos/ivorjawa/4588736005/ | Dec 13 00:11 |
TechrightsBot-sc | [4] - Mark Zuckerberg - Encyclopedia Dramatica | http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Mark_Zuckerberg | Dec 13 00:11 |
FurnaceBoy | http://twitter.com/#!/Cristoforou/status/13709876840628224 | Dec 13 00:13 |
TechrightsBot-sc | @Cristoforou: 写真を整理し終わったのだが、ドイツ人にとってもらった写真がなぜかどれもひどくボケている。 | Dec 13 00:13 |
FurnaceBoy | http://twitter.com/#!/pmross/status/13695538901815296 | Dec 13 00:14 |
TechrightsBot-sc | @pmross: Lego Antikythera Mechanism http://bit.ly/gtYkgv and the original Antikythera Mechanism http://bit.ly/hwYizw | Dec 13 00:14 |
TechrightsBot-sc | -> Title: YouTube - Lego Antikythera Mechanism .::. Size~: 136.67 KB | Dec 13 00:14 |
TechrightsBot-sc | -> Title: Antikythera mechanism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 208.01 KB | Dec 13 00:14 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: ^^ new feature. it sniffs urls inside tweets and dents (but does not archive those) | Dec 13 00:14 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: it DOES archive tweets, dents, and any URL media type (incl cited pdfs, images) | Dec 13 00:14 |
schestowitz | nice | Dec 13 00:15 |
schestowitz | Now I can paste tweets I like it | Dec 13 00:15 |
schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/60306163 | Dec 13 00:15 |
TechrightsBot-sc | @Laurel Russwurm (laurelrusswurm)'s status on Sunday, 12-Dec-10 23:18:24 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz the CRTC has already compromised #NetNeutrality in Canada by giving Bell permisssion to throttle & discriminate | Dec 13 00:15 |
FurnaceBoy | http://twitter.com/#!/rubberstamprosk/status/13682336482729984 | Dec 13 00:16 |
TechrightsBot-sc | @rubberstamprosk: Bush Tax Cut Failure #9 : A Sagging Stock Market http://bit.ly/g7rlsN #wherearethejobs #pledge #p2 #youcut | Dec 13 00:16 |
TechrightsBot-sc | -> Title: 10 Epic Failures of the Bush Tax Cuts | Crooks and Liars .::. Size~: 104.59 KB | Dec 13 00:16 |
schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/60301173 | Dec 13 00:21 |
TechrightsBot-sc | @NumberedHumanIndustries (nhi)'s status on Sunday, 12-Dec-10 21:17:49 UTC - Identi.ca: ♻ @schestowitz: ♻ @rsandu Pentagon Whistleblower Daniel Ellsberg: Julian Assange is Not a Terrorist http://is.gd/iDbHW #wikileaks | Dec 13 00:21 |
TechrightsBot-sc | -> Title: Pentagon Whistleblower Daniel Ellsberg: Julian Assange is Not a Terrorist .::. Size~: 60.13 KB | Dec 13 00:21 |
FurnaceBoy | :) | Dec 13 00:21 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: happy? :) | Dec 13 00:25 |
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schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: like a kid with a new toy | Dec 13 00:32 |
schestowitz | !google qu1j0t3 libre | Dec 13 00:32 |
TechrightsBot-sc | [1] - Archivo:Dg-nova3.jpg - Wikipedia, la enciclopedia libre | http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archivo:Dg-nova3.jpg | Dec 13 00:32 |
TechrightsBot-sc | [2] - FU-BAR | http://blog.1407.org/ | Dec 13 00:32 |
TechrightsBot-sc | [3] - IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: October 4th, 2010 | http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/irc-log-techrights-04102010.html | Dec 13 00:32 |
TechrightsBot-sc | [4] - IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: November 18th, 2010 | http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/irc-log-techrights-18112010.html | Dec 13 00:32 |
schestowitz | Heh. Rui's blog | Dec 13 00:33 |
schestowitz | http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archivo:Dg-nova3.jpg "ser Qu1j0t3 on en.wikipedia" | Dec 13 00:33 |
TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Archivo:Dg-nova3.jpg - Wikipedia, la enciclopedia libre .::. Size~: 28.11 KB | Dec 13 00:33 |
schestowitz | Someone is libelling me again http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.java.programmer/browse_thread/thread/9cab4bc5dffbc8a2/d5e43fe847d6cf51?show_docid=d5e43fe847d6cf51 | Dec 13 00:38 |
TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Seamus is Roy Schestowitz, notorious Linux advocacy troll. - comp.lang.java.programmer | Google Groups .::. Size~: 55.8 KB | Dec 13 00:38 |
schestowitz | hm... bot crashed.. | Dec 13 00:46 |
schestowitz | :TRIdentica!~twitfolk@216.105.40.114 NOTICE #techrights :[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] Something I really like about the !Techbytes audio cast is how at the end in more recent episodes there will be different music. :) | Dec 13 00:47 |
schestowitz | :TechrightsBot-tr!~b0t@216.105.40.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds | Dec 13 00:47 |
schestowitz | ERROR :Closing Link: 216.105.40.114 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) | Dec 13 00:47 |
schestowitz | Disconnecting... | Dec 13 00:47 |
schestowitz | Disconnected! | Dec 13 00:47 |
schestowitz | Odd... | Dec 13 00:47 |
FurnaceBoy | ping timeout | Dec 13 00:47 |
schestowitz | yeah | Dec 13 00:47 |
schestowitz | rare | Dec 13 00:47 |
FurnaceBoy | anything logged? | Dec 13 00:47 |
sebsebseb | schestowitz: uh what was that? | Dec 13 00:47 |
schestowitz | it's the log file | Dec 13 00:48 |
sebsebseb | ok well I got high lighted | Dec 13 00:48 |
FurnaceBoy | sebsebseb: yeah, read the msg | Dec 13 00:48 |
FurnaceBoy | sebsebseb: it's pretty self explanatory :) | Dec 13 00:48 |
sebsebseb | FurnaceBoy: yes I see why I got high lighted, but I wondered why | Dec 13 00:48 |
FurnaceBoy | a paste | Dec 13 00:49 |
schestowitz | I run it as background job | Dec 13 00:49 |
schestowitz | cat irc-techrights.sh | Dec 13 00:49 |
schestowitz | cd ~/phirce-techrights && nohup php -q bot.php & | Dec 13 00:49 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: there's a nohup.out file | Dec 13 00:49 |
sebsebseb | schestowitz: oh your looking at why it crashed? | Dec 13 00:49 |
sebsebseb | schestowitz: anyway all the music that goes in techbytes is open / creative commons I assume | Dec 13 00:50 |
sebsebseb | also maybe some people would take offence to some of the music in episode 14 or not | Dec 13 00:50 |
schestowitz | yeah | Dec 13 00:50 |
schestowitz | sebsebseb: language? | Dec 13 00:50 |
sebsebseb | yeah | Dec 13 00:51 |
schestowitz | I noticed bad words | Dec 13 00:51 |
schestowitz | But it's a track | Dec 13 00:51 |
sebsebseb | exactly thats what I mean the bad words, but yeah its music | Dec 13 00:51 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: no nohup.out? | Dec 13 00:51 |
sebsebseb | schestowitz: yeah who needs propritary music, when there is all this great creative commons music these days | Dec 13 00:51 |
Ender2070 | I hear so much of it on the radio too | Dec 13 00:52 |
sebsebseb | Ender2070: yeah thats all they play on the radio when it comes to music, propritary music | Dec 13 00:52 |
Ender2070 | how evil | Dec 13 00:53 |
Ender2070 | music that costs money... | Dec 13 00:53 |
FurnaceBoy | Ender2070: urmom costs money! | Dec 13 00:53 |
sebsebseb | something I been thinking about recently | Dec 13 00:53 |
sebsebseb | as well | Dec 13 00:53 |
sebsebseb | how its not really an art if they are being paid | Dec 13 00:54 |
sebsebseb | if they really care about the music, they would do it for free? | Dec 13 00:54 |
Ender2070 | way to win an conversation | Dec 13 00:54 |
sebsebseb | otherwise making music is just a job for them realy | Dec 13 00:54 |
Ender2070 | it is a job | Dec 13 00:54 |
Ender2070 | half these musicians don't even write the lyrics | Dec 13 00:54 |
sebsebseb | yeah, but if pepole really care about something, they will do it for free | Dec 13 00:54 |
sebsebseb | be that making opensource/freesoftware or making music | Dec 13 00:54 |
sebsebseb | its just we have this money system as well, so its not quite the case | Dec 13 00:54 |
sebsebseb | so yeah what Jono Bacon is doing is good | Dec 13 00:56 |
sebsebseb | however | Dec 13 00:56 |
schestowitz | New ideas come from freedom | Dec 13 00:56 |
Ender2070 | how do you eat | Dec 13 00:56 |
schestowitz | At my job I get freedom to implement what I think is coolk | Dec 13 00:56 |
Ender2070 | eventually you'll need money at some point | Dec 13 00:56 |
schestowitz | At least for now... | Dec 13 00:56 |
sebsebseb | however many of the Ubuntu fan boys and such will listen to his music, because you know its the uhmm "amzing awesome Jono Bacon" | Dec 13 00:56 |
schestowitz | I am discouraged from asking advice about direction, which is nice | Dec 13 00:56 |
sebsebseb | I think thats the right useage of quotes there | Dec 13 00:56 |
sebsebseb | schestowitz: what is your job? | Dec 13 00:56 |
schestowitz | !google "amazing awesome Jono Bacon" | Dec 13 00:56 |
sebsebseb | schestowitz: no I wasn't quoting someone else | Dec 13 00:57 |
schestowitz | sebsebseb: PR for "amazing awesome Jono Bacon" | Dec 13 00:57 |
schestowitz | No results found | Dec 13 00:57 |
sebsebseb | schestowitz: I was just trying to make it stand out, what other people may think | Dec 13 00:57 |
sebsebseb | or the kind of thing they may think | Dec 13 00:57 |
schestowitz | !google "awesome Jono Bacon" | Dec 13 00:57 |
TechrightsBot-sc | [1] - Try Natty Alpha 1 safely using a usb stick | http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/12/tray-natty-alpha-1-safely-using-a-usb-stick/ | Dec 13 00:57 |
TechrightsBot-sc | [2] - Reflections on Ubuntu, Canonical and the march to free software ... | http://www.linoob.com/forum/showthread.php%3Ftid%3D235 | Dec 13 00:57 |
TechrightsBot-sc | [3] - OMG! Ubuntu | www.ubuntu.cz | http://www.ubuntu.cz/aggregator/sources/1%3Fpage%3D2 | Dec 13 00:57 |
TechrightsBot-sc | [4] - Mark Shuttleworth » 2010 » September | http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/date/2010/09 | Dec 13 00:57 |
sebsebseb | and uhmm that was bound to give results | Dec 13 00:57 |
schestowitz | He says awesome a lot | Dec 13 00:57 |
sebsebseb | he really does like the word awesome | Dec 13 00:57 |
sebsebseb | schestowitz: we thought the same it seems :D just now | Dec 13 00:57 |
schestowitz | !google "awful Jono Bacon" | Dec 13 00:58 |
schestowitz | !google "full Jono Bacon" | Dec 13 00:58 |
schestowitz | !google "full Bacon" | Dec 13 00:58 |
TechrightsBot-sc | [1] - Bacon and Cheese Roll - Full Size Photo - FoodProof | http://foodproof.com/photos/full/bacon-cheese-roll-1290 | Dec 13 00:58 |
TechrightsBot-sc | [2] - Amazon.com: Full Bacon Jacket (9781844014873): Tom Hathaway: Books | http://www.amazon.com/Full-Bacon-Jacket-Tom-Hathaway/dp/1844014878 | Dec 13 00:58 |
TechrightsBot-sc | [3] - What's Next For The Folks Behind Bacon Salt & Baconnaise? - The ... | http://consumerist.com/2010/10/whats-next-for-the-folks-behind-bacon-salt-baconnaise.html | Dec 13 00:58 |
TechrightsBot-sc | [4] - What's next for the makers of 'Baconnaise' | http://blog.seattlepi.com/thebigblog/archives/223875.asp | Dec 13 00:58 |
Ender2070 | if certain people had their way, we would all be working for free, either living on welfare or doing grunt work to be able to eat | Dec 13 00:58 |
sebsebseb | !google Roy Schestowitz | Dec 13 00:58 |
TechrightsBot-sc | [1] - Schestowitz, Roy | http://schestowitz.com/ | Dec 13 00:58 |
TechrightsBot-sc | [2] - Roy Schestowitz | http://schestowitz.com/roy/ | Dec 13 00:58 |
TechrightsBot-sc | [3] - Dr. Roy Schestowitz | Techrights | http://techrights.org/author/schestowitz/ | Dec 13 00:58 |
TechrightsBot-sc | [4] - Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz) on Twitter | http://twitter.com/schestowitz | Dec 13 00:58 |
sebsebseb | !google mageia | Dec 13 00:58 |
Ender2070 | not everyone can run a non profit and live off of the donations | Dec 13 00:58 |
TechrightsBot-sc | [1] - Mageia - A New Linux Distribution | http://mageia.org/ | Dec 13 00:58 |
TechrightsBot-sc | [2] - Mageia Blog (English) | The new linux distribution | http://blog.mageia.org/ | Dec 13 00:58 |
TechrightsBot-sc | [3] - Mageia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mageia | Dec 13 00:58 |
TechrightsBot-sc | [4] - Mandriva forks to Mageia Linux | http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS3165663211.html | Dec 13 00:58 |
sebsebseb | !google Ender2070 | Dec 13 00:59 |
TechrightsBot-sc | [1] - Brandon Lozza (ender2070) on Twitter | http://twitter.com/ender2070 | Dec 13 00:59 |
TechrightsBot-sc | [2] - Twitter / Michael L. Love: @ender2070 Little old me? | http://twitter.com/gnudarwin/status/10858300757254144 | Dec 13 00:59 |
TechrightsBot-sc | [3] - Brandon Lozza (ender2070)'s status on Sunday, 12-Dec-10 04:35:02 ... | http://identi.ca/notice/60266753 | Dec 13 00:59 |
TechrightsBot-sc | [4] - Allegation: Novell Has “Profit Motive for Pushing Mono Everywhere ... | http://techrights.org/2010/10/26/mono-open-core-and-money/ | Dec 13 00:59 |
schestowitz | !google !google !google | Dec 13 00:59 |
TechrightsBot-sc | [1] - Google | http://www.google.co.uk/ | Dec 13 00:59 |
TechrightsBot-sc | [2] - Google Goggles | http://www.google.com/mobile/goggles/ | Dec 13 00:59 |
TechrightsBot-sc | [3] - Doodle 4 Google | http://www.google.com/doodle4google/ | Dec 13 00:59 |
TechrightsBot-sc | [4] - Google - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google | Dec 13 00:59 |
sebsebseb | !google sebsebseb | Dec 13 00:59 |
TechrightsBot-sc | [1] - Sebastian (sebsebseb) - Identi.ca | http://identi.ca/user/275090 | Dec 13 00:59 |
TechrightsBot-sc | [2] - Sébastien BLONDY (sebsebseb) on Twitter | http://twitter.com/sebsebseb | Dec 13 00:59 |
TechrightsBot-sc | [3] - Sebastian (sebsebseb)'s status on Sunday, 12-Dec-10 04:35:25 UTC ... | http://www.debianblogs.com/sebastian_sebsebsebs_status_on_sunday_12dec10_043525_utc | Dec 13 00:59 |
TechrightsBot-sc | [4] - Seb Seb (SEB) on Myspace | http://www.myspace.com/sebastian_th/photos/error%3Ferror%3D1 | Dec 13 00:59 |
sebsebseb | schestowitz: I got Twitter as of a few days now, but yeah I will hardly use it :) | Dec 13 00:59 |
sebsebseb | schestowitz: and I am not going to link it to Identica either | Dec 13 00:59 |
Ender2070 | good | Dec 13 00:59 |
schestowitz | sebsebseb: Just link it to your identica acct | Dec 13 00:59 |
sebsebseb | and the name I got is a bit sucky, but well as you can see above | Dec 13 01:00 |
sebsebseb | someone else took the sebsebseb name | Dec 13 01:00 |
schestowitz | oh, beat me to it | Dec 13 01:00 |
sebsebseb | schestowitz: uhmm well no point really, look at my tweets so far :d | Dec 13 01:00 |
Ender2070 | I find twitter better | Dec 13 01:00 |
sebsebseb | http://twitter.com/asebsebseb | Dec 13 01:00 |
TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Sebastian (asebsebseb) on Twitter .::. Size~: 23.43 KB | Dec 13 01:00 |
FurnaceBoy | Ender2070: but its proprietary! | Dec 13 01:00 |
Ender2070 | more users, more topics and well more users | Dec 13 01:00 |
Ender2070 | OH NOE! | Dec 13 01:00 |
sebsebseb | asebsebseb yes I know lame name with the a, but I very nearly have sebsebseb that way | Dec 13 01:00 |
Ender2070 | your food is proprietary too | Dec 13 01:00 |
sebsebseb | schestowitz: see what my dents say | Dec 13 01:01 |
Ender2070 | #conspiracy is practically DEAD on identica | Dec 13 01:01 |
sebsebseb | schestowitz: also yeah click and you and mageia and ender I think I subscribed to | Dec 13 01:01 |
sebsebseb | Ender2070: Identica is way better, it has groups :) | Dec 13 01:01 |
sebsebseb | also it doesn't have | Dec 13 01:01 |
sebsebseb | well most of the lame Internet connected consumers | Dec 13 01:01 |
sebsebseb | you know lame average people | Dec 13 01:01 |
Ender2070 | but you need a twitter account anyways just to access the people | Dec 13 01:02 |
Ender2070 | so why have two accounts to do the same exact thing | Dec 13 01:02 |
Ender2070 | its kind of crazy | Dec 13 01:02 |
*FurnaceBoy wishes he had some red wine | Dec 13 01:02 | |
sebsebseb | Ender2070: so yeah Twitter will be mainly for me to follow other people, and sometimes to do tweets maybe @bbclick for example maybe | Dec 13 01:02 |
Ender2070 | hey, its not like twitter costs money | Dec 13 01:02 |
sebsebseb | Ender2070: Twitter is like Facebook, has the lame average consumer on it | Dec 13 01:02 |
sebsebseb | and is very popular with them as well | Dec 13 01:02 |
sebsebseb | with people that suck in other words | Dec 13 01:03 |
sebsebseb | if you get what I mean | Dec 13 01:03 |
Ender2070 | well there are certain topics I follow that are dead on identica | Dec 13 01:03 |
Ender2070 | i cant force people to use identica | Dec 13 01:03 |
Ender2070 | most of these people haven't even heard of linux | Dec 13 01:03 |
sebsebseb | Ender2070: identica its like awesome :) mainly opensource/freesoftware/Linux people | Dec 13 01:03 |
sebsebseb | also someone did a good blog entry about twitter and statusnet/identica comparing | Dec 13 01:03 |
sebsebseb | Ender2070: I tend to get on best with people who know what Linux is :) or so it seems | Dec 13 01:04 |
sebsebseb | I mean people who know what it is, and use it | Dec 13 01:04 |
sebsebseb | online and yeah | Dec 13 01:04 |
Ender2070 | I know enough of those people | Dec 13 01:04 |
Ender2070 | they all use twitter too | Dec 13 01:04 |
sebsebseb | why use two sites for the same thing like you were saying | Dec 13 01:04 |
sebsebseb | plus I can't send to identica groups from Twitter anyway so | Dec 13 01:05 |
sebsebseb | uhm Twitter no thanks | Dec 13 01:05 |
Ender2070 | I don't only talk about open source and free software | Dec 13 01:05 |
sebsebseb | Ender2070: no I got other interests to, but its a major interest of mine since 2004 :) | Dec 13 01:05 |
Ender2070 | yeah thats fine | Dec 13 01:06 |
sebsebseb | I mainly have Twitter since Click | Dec 13 01:06 |
sebsebseb | BBC Click | Dec 13 01:06 |
Ender2070 | actually I wish some of the people on twitter would follow you out too | Dec 13 01:06 |
Ender2070 | lol | Dec 13 01:06 |
sebsebseb | follow you out?? | Dec 13 01:06 |
Ender2070 | yeah | Dec 13 01:06 |
sebsebseb | oh | Dec 13 01:06 |
sebsebseb | you mean well you were joking | Dec 13 01:06 |
sebsebseb | ,but you mean | Dec 13 01:06 |
Ender2070 | people spamming twitter instead of taking action | Dec 13 01:06 |
sebsebseb | like | Dec 13 01:06 |
Ender2070 | i dont mean you | Dec 13 01:07 |
Ender2070 | other people | Dec 13 01:07 |
sebsebseb | oh your on about spam, I misunderstood totally then | Dec 13 01:07 |
sebsebseb | identica is getting spam accounts and trolls as well | Dec 13 01:07 |
sebsebseb | schestowitz: oh yeah as of this morning, so quite a lot of hours ago | Dec 13 01:07 |
sebsebseb | schestowitz: I also have disapora :) | Dec 13 01:07 |
sebsebseb | which seems to be sucky so far, but yeah I got it | Dec 13 01:07 |
Ender2070 | theres some big free software people who spam socialism, globalism, environmentalism and the like on twitter | Dec 13 01:07 |
Ender2070 | even if I unfollow them, people on my list talk to them | Dec 13 01:07 |
sebsebseb | Ender2070: Twitter is propritary | Dec 13 01:08 |
sebsebseb | identica :) | Dec 13 01:08 |
sebsebseb | I agree with schestowitz | Dec 13 01:08 |
Ender2070 | laurelrusswurm is a big example | Dec 13 01:08 |
Ender2070 | she uses every right wing mistake as ammo to bash them | Dec 13 01:08 |
Ender2070 | instead of doing something about it | Dec 13 01:08 |
sebsebseb | yeah well shes some woman not quite sure who she is, seen her stuff on identica though | Dec 13 01:08 |
Ender2070 | I'd like to know what her RCMP case # is against Flanagan | Dec 13 01:08 |
Ender2070 | but im sure shes just using the issue, not actually caring about Assange's life | Dec 13 01:10 |
sebsebseb | Ender2070: identica is addictive | Dec 13 01:12 |
sebsebseb | I am likeing it more than IRC now days :) | Dec 13 01:12 |
Ender2070 | she always hammers steven harper for ACTA, yet, socialism doesn't permit her to criticize the fact that the person in charge of that in Canada (Tony Clement) isn't even Canadian | Dec 13 01:12 |
sebsebseb | and IRC can be rather addictive as well | Dec 13 01:12 |
Ender2070 | oh I agree | Dec 13 01:12 |
FurnaceBoy | socialists set up g20? | Dec 13 01:12 |
FurnaceBoy | how do u figure that? | Dec 13 01:13 |
Ender2070 | I'd say they did | Dec 13 01:13 |
FurnaceBoy | how? | Dec 13 01:13 |
Ender2070 | what do you mean how | Dec 13 01:13 |
FurnaceBoy | occam's razor says no | Dec 13 01:13 |
Ender2070 | look who was in charge | Dec 13 01:13 |
FurnaceBoy | how exactly | Dec 13 01:13 |
schestowitz | Groklaw finally covers wikileaks, it doesn't shy away | Dec 13 01:13 |
Ender2070 | did you miss the police state? | Dec 13 01:13 |
FurnaceBoy | Harper was in charge. | Dec 13 01:13 |
schestowitz | But it kept ignoring the subject till days ago | Dec 13 01:13 |
Ender2070 | Harper is socialist, if you didn't notice | Dec 13 01:14 |
FurnaceBoy | he is? | Dec 13 01:14 |
Ender2070 | hes just a good script reader | Dec 13 01:14 |
FurnaceBoy | oh, i see. | Dec 13 01:14 |
Ender2070 | he never does what he says | Dec 13 01:14 |
FurnaceBoy | except for the whole part about policies | Dec 13 01:14 |
Ender2070 | he continues on what the last guy did | Dec 13 01:14 |
FurnaceBoy | there's not a socialist bone in his body. | Dec 13 01:14 |
FurnaceBoy | or in anyone from the Klein school | Dec 13 01:14 |
Ender2070 | hes certainly a globalist | Dec 13 01:14 |
Ender2070 | so even if hes not in his mind, being a globalist puts him into the hands of socialist policies | Dec 13 01:15 |
FurnaceBoy | sure, but that's typical right wing stuff. Friedmanite. | Dec 13 01:15 |
FurnaceBoy | Ender2070: if you think Harper's a socialist, you must think Thomas Friedman is. | Dec 13 01:15 |
schestowitz | eww... | Dec 13 01:15 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: not that I want to dicsuc i meean discuss Friedman | Dec 13 01:15 |
Ender2070 | even if hes not socialist at all | Dec 13 01:15 |
Ender2070 | the government still is | Dec 13 01:15 |
schestowitz | BTW, the truth about bankers was said by Sanders days ago | Dec 13 01:16 |
schestowitz | Now they try to paint him a "socialist" | Dec 13 01:16 |
Ender2070 | he has minority power | Dec 13 01:16 |
schestowitz | Like the Obama smear | Dec 13 01:16 |
FurnaceBoy | Ender2070: yes, Trudeau's canada from where you are looks socialist. | Dec 13 01:16 |
schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: not worse than Milton though | Dec 13 01:16 |
Ender2070 | the other 3 socialist parties can force through a policy by voting against him | Dec 13 01:16 |
FurnaceBoy | Ender2070: watch them fail | Dec 13 01:16 |
Ender2070 | they kept him from enacting a law against human trafficers who claim refugee status | Dec 13 01:17 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: note that Espionage Act is intended to neutralise 1st Amendment, from links posted earlier | Dec 13 01:18 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: and it works, see Wolf's history | Dec 13 01:18 |
Ender2070 | "human trafficers have rights too" says the socialist | Dec 13 01:19 |
schestowitz | Riight... | Dec 13 01:19 |
Ender2070 | anyways, i'm gonna go play wow. I'll talk to you guys sometime later. | Dec 13 01:21 |
Ender2070 | fun time | Dec 13 01:21 |
FurnaceBoy | Ender2070: well, they do. | Dec 13 01:21 |
FurnaceBoy | Ender2070: so do "terrorists" | Dec 13 01:21 |
FurnaceBoy | and "activists" | Dec 13 01:21 |
FurnaceBoy | and "protesters" | Dec 13 01:21 |
FurnaceBoy | and "dissidents" | Dec 13 01:21 |
FurnaceBoy | und so weiter. | Dec 13 01:21 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: Ron Paul is not really on the side of the angels. There was a good clarification in a /. comment. | Dec 13 01:22 |
Ender2070 | oh before I go | Dec 13 01:22 |
FurnaceBoy | in fact, if we continue that list, we eventually arrive at "you". | Dec 13 01:22 |
Ender2070 | Ron Paul is gonna straighten out the FED | Dec 13 01:22 |
FurnaceBoy | if "human traffickers" don't have rights, then nor do you. | Dec 13 01:22 |
schestowitz | Ender2070: no-one can | Dec 13 01:23 |
schestowitz | He'll get a bullet | Dec 13 01:23 |
Ender2070 | omg awesome furnace, im gonna quote you | Dec 13 01:23 |
FurnaceBoy | if "Julian Assange" doesn't have rights, then nor do you. | Dec 13 01:23 |
FurnaceBoy | please do. | Dec 13 01:23 |
schestowitz | Maybe they'll accuse old Paul of having a threesome with 2 Swedes... without v1agra | Dec 13 01:23 |
FurnaceBoy | Ender2070: for someone so against the idea of 'rights', it must have pleased you to see the Canadian Charter so comprehensively ignored at G20. | Dec 13 01:23 |
Ender2070 | I care about rights | Dec 13 01:24 |
FurnaceBoy | Ender2070: I assume you're agitating for its repeal | Dec 13 01:24 |
Ender2070 | just not of those who do bad things to people | Dec 13 01:24 |
Ender2070 | someone who kidnaps people and sells them doesn't deserve rights | Dec 13 01:24 |
FurnaceBoy | Ender2070: certainly Fantino wants the Charter shredded | Dec 13 01:24 |
FurnaceBoy | Ender2070: I would appreciate if you put my quote about widely. | Dec 13 01:24 |
FurnaceBoy | I mean it 100% | Dec 13 01:24 |
Ender2070 | im sure it will be retweeted | Dec 13 01:24 |
Ender2070 | i have followers | Dec 13 01:24 |
Ender2070 | just watch | Dec 13 01:24 |
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FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: the Guardian continues to make excellent use of the cables, without fanfare. | Dec 13 02:20 |
FurnaceBoy | http://twitter.com/#!/GoogleMcGurgle/status/14122491999948800 | Dec 13 02:20 |
TechrightsBot-sc | @GoogleMcGurgle: Bertie Ahern "everyone knows the UK was involved" in the murder. #Finucane #Wikileaks http://bit.ly/gWbToR | Dec 13 02:20 |
TechrightsBot-sc | -> Title: WikiLeaks cables: MI5 offered files on Finucane killing to inquiry | UK news | The Guardian .::. Size~: 95.1 KB | Dec 13 02:20 |
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abeNd-org | perhaps you can use this http://techblog.netflix.com/2010/12/why-we-use-and-contribute-to-open.html to lean on netflix to get them to support a linux client :P | Dec 13 03:34 |
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Ender2070 | netflix is proprietary! | Dec 13 03:48 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: noticing a weird thing with php/curl though. look: | Dec 13 04:14 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: http://ru.yahoo.com | Dec 13 04:14 |
TechrightsBot-sc | Title: .::. Size~: 0.08 KB | Dec 13 04:14 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: but if you curl it using the CLI utility, no problem. | Dec 13 04:14 |
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sebsebseb | Bad OpenSuse | Dec 13 07:24 |
sebsebseb | they seem to be patching it like Ubuntu now | Dec 13 07:24 |
sebsebseb | Gnome in it | Dec 13 07:25 |
sebsebseb | eww | Dec 13 07:25 |
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schestowitz | https://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/14165284315201536/ | Dec 13 08:04 |
TechrightsBot-sc | @qu1j0t3: @schestowitz Another political prosecution? http://twitter.com/#!/GreeGreece/status/14164638287527937 | Dec 13 08:04 |
TechrightsBot-sc | @GreeGreece: David Epstein Incest Charges: Columbia Professor Charged With Sleeping With Daughter (Incest is a crime in the US?) http://huff.to/hd8dBR | Dec 13 08:04 |
schestowitz | https://twitter.com/dorianmuthig/status/14211937554399232 | Dec 13 08:06 |
TechrightsBot-sc | @dorianmuthig: @schestowitz @0x A non-issue for ordinary business and private users. | Dec 13 08:06 |
schestowitz | replyto://14211937554399232 | Dec 13 08:06 |
schestowitz | https://twitter.com/0x/status/14213988229324800 | Dec 13 08:06 |
TechrightsBot-sc | @0x: @dorianmuthig @schestowitz true. | Dec 13 08:06 |
schestowitz | They say businesses will never be kicked out | Dec 13 08:07 |
schestowitz | doesn't wash | Dec 13 08:07 |
schestowitz | test: http://identi.ca/conversation/59707885#notice-60313574 | Dec 13 08:08 |
TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 9.23 KB | Dec 13 08:08 |
schestowitz | it doesn't deal with threads | Dec 13 08:08 |
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schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: we have a new bug back | Dec 13 13:15 |
schestowitz | One with symbol processing | Dec 13 13:15 |
schestowitz | e.g. "Title: Sea of Joy confused of calcutta .::. Size~: 59.63 KB" | Dec 13 13:15 |
schestowitz | oops. More like this: | Dec 13 13:16 |
schestowitz | http://bit.ly/gsFrKJ | Dec 13 13:16 |
TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Sea of Joy confused of calcutta .::. Size~: 59.63 KB | Dec 13 13:16 |
schestowitz | I fixed it in my version, but it's not in yours | Dec 13 13:16 |
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schestowitz | What a rubbish analysis: https://www.trefis.com/company?article=29212 | Dec 13 15:01 |
TechrightsBot-sc | Title: 3 Downside Scenarios for Microsofts Windows OS -- Trefis .::. Size~: 34.59 KB | Dec 13 15:01 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: not sure what you mean | Dec 13 15:46 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: can you clarify? | Dec 13 16:06 |
schestowitz | strikeout | Dec 13 16:06 |
schestowitz | on the text, in this client | Dec 13 16:06 |
schestowitz | konversation | Dec 13 16:07 |
FurnaceBoy | still confused. | Dec 13 16:17 |
FurnaceBoy | what's the cause ? | Dec 13 16:17 |
FurnaceBoy | I don't see strikeout here. what in the message is triggering it? | Dec 13 16:18 |
schestowitz | http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/12/AR2010121202213.html?nav=rss_business/industries | Dec 13 16:34 |
TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Madoff son's suicide followed battle with trustee .::. Size~: 91.01 KB | Dec 13 16:34 |
schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: it doesn't handle some symbol right | Dec 13 16:34 |
schestowitz | We fixed it last year but I can't remember where the change is | Dec 13 16:35 |
schestowitz | Let me check... | Dec 13 16:35 |
schestowitz | > $data['title'] = "Error processing the URL: \x02$headers[0]\x02"; | Dec 13 16:42 |
schestowitz | Did you change it to: | Dec 13 16:42 |
schestowitz | < $data['error'] = "Error processing the URL"; | Dec 13 16:42 |
FurnaceBoy | that's not related to this problem | Dec 13 16:42 |
FurnaceBoy | i removed code that strips out \x13 | Dec 13 16:42 |
FurnaceBoy | do you have a url that reproduces this? | Dec 13 16:43 |
FurnaceBoy | that one above? | Dec 13 16:43 |
schestowitz | http://bit.ly/gsFrKJ | Dec 13 16:44 |
TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Sea of Joy confused of calcutta .::. Size~: 62.22 KB | Dec 13 16:44 |
FurnaceBoy | ok | Dec 13 16:44 |
FurnaceBoy | just a min... | Dec 13 16:44 |
schestowitz | bas symbol | Dec 13 16:44 |
schestowitz | trmanco did a fix for it | Dec 13 16:45 |
schestowitz | $data['title'] = str_replace("\x13","", | Dec 13 16:45 |
schestowitz | You removed this | Dec 13 16:45 |
schestowitz | I'll put that back in, don't worry about it | Dec 13 16:45 |
schestowitz | unless you already patch it... | Dec 13 16:46 |
schestowitz | For upstream | Dec 13 16:46 |
FurnaceBoy | yes i removed it. | Dec 13 16:47 |
FurnaceBoy | it's silly. | Dec 13 16:47 |
FurnaceBoy | i'll give you a better fix. | Dec 13 16:47 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: does your client properly support unicode? | Dec 13 16:49 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: stripping that character is incorrect. it's part of a 2-byte unicode combination | Dec 13 16:52 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: the site uses this entity: http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/2013/index.htm | Dec 13 16:53 |
TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Unicode Character 'EN DASH' (U+2013) .::. Size~: 10.5 KB | Dec 13 16:53 |
FurnaceBoy | so the objective is to render that properly in unicode, then the client can use it. | Dec 13 16:53 |
schestowitz | Oh, I see | Dec 13 16:55 |
schestowitz | Well, I think charset depends on the application | Dec 13 16:55 |
FurnaceBoy | right, but we can't control client charset. | Dec 13 16:55 |
FurnaceBoy | i'm just saying that stripping the character is incorrect. | Dec 13 16:55 |
schestowitz | True | Dec 13 16:56 |
schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: nonetheless, that's how it ran for a long time | Dec 13 16:56 |
FurnaceBoy | MOST of hte time you are going to get unicode data | Dec 13 16:56 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: I don't like bugs. | Dec 13 16:56 |
FurnaceBoy | that's a bug. | Dec 13 16:56 |
schestowitz | yup | Dec 13 16:56 |
FurnaceBoy | there are better solutions | Dec 13 16:56 |
schestowitz | with a hack | Dec 13 16:56 |
FurnaceBoy | no no | Dec 13 16:56 |
FurnaceBoy | the line of code i removed is a bug. | Dec 13 16:56 |
FurnaceBoy | if you think about it, it's easy to show it's the wrong answer. | Dec 13 16:56 |
FurnaceBoy | from several angles | Dec 13 16:57 |
FurnaceBoy | 1) it prevents correct unicode from being passed through | Dec 13 16:57 |
schestowitz | but this is a bot used in one set of channels AFAIK | Dec 13 16:57 |
FurnaceBoy | 2) it still lets other encoding problems through | Dec 13 16:57 |
FurnaceBoy | doesn't matter, schestowitz , a bug is a bug! | Dec 13 16:57 |
FurnaceBoy | there are better solutions here. | Dec 13 16:57 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: you only observe this in your client right? | Dec 13 16:57 |
FurnaceBoy | Konversation | Dec 13 16:57 |
FurnaceBoy | is it set up for unicode? | Dec 13 16:57 |
schestowitz | "♺ @FFII @Fosspatents admits agenda is not #Foss ☛. Who didn't notice that? // common lobbying tactics... like ACT for 'small business'" | Dec 13 16:58 |
schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: yes, I think it is.. let me check | Dec 13 16:58 |
FurnaceBoy | ok, so your unicode seems fine | Dec 13 16:58 |
schestowitz | But xchat too doesn't like it | Dec 13 16:58 |
schestowitz | It shows undefined char | Dec 13 16:58 |
FurnaceBoy | you see that we get a LOT of unicode through the bot. so breaking it is foolish. | Dec 13 16:59 |
FurnaceBoy | right, but how familiar are you with utf-8? | Dec 13 16:59 |
FurnaceBoy | once you understand utf8 you can see that the code was incorrect | Dec 13 16:59 |
schestowitz | I don't know all the symbols if that's what you ask | Dec 13 16:59 |
FurnaceBoy | no, i mean how utf8 works. | Dec 13 16:59 |
schestowitz | I assumed it's just a table of symbols | Dec 13 17:00 |
FurnaceBoy | it's a variable length encoding. | Dec 13 17:00 |
FurnaceBoy | unicode is a table of symbols, utf8 is a way of encoding them mixed with 7-bit ascii | Dec 13 17:00 |
FurnaceBoy | in a way that's compact and backward compatible with most text processors | Dec 13 17:00 |
FurnaceBoy | it's also the encoding of XML and is gradually supplanting all other encodings on the web | Dec 13 17:01 |
FurnaceBoy | + irc | Dec 13 17:02 |
FurnaceBoy | so in short, it's safe to say that the bot should gracefully handle it | Dec 13 17:02 |
FurnaceBoy | i'll look into this example a bit further. when i run it here, the entity isn't expanded | Dec 13 17:03 |
FurnaceBoy | but that may be due to some other changes | Dec 13 17:03 |
FurnaceBoy | it looks like the whole problem is due to some buggy php that trmanco took from the php web site comments section | Dec 13 17:03 |
FurnaceBoy | called unhtmlentities | Dec 13 17:03 |
FurnaceBoy | i suspect this wasn't utf-8 compatible | Dec 13 17:04 |
FurnaceBoy | http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/utf8.html | Dec 13 17:10 |
TechrightsBot-sc | Title: UTF-8 Sampler .::. Size~: 56.13 KB | Dec 13 17:10 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: all unicode in utf8 is encoded in bytes with high bit set. | Dec 13 17:12 |
schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: oh, I see... | Dec 13 17:12 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: therefore, the original bot code is wrong, | Dec 13 17:12 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: it was producing a 0x13 byte, which is impossible | Dec 13 17:12 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: that is not the utf8 representation of the entity – | Dec 13 17:12 |
FurnaceBoy | it's the result of an incorrect transformation | Dec 13 17:13 |
FurnaceBoy | what you SHOULD see in your client is the en-dash glyph, as the page author intended. | Dec 13 17:13 |
FurnaceBoy | when the bot's fixed, that's what you'll see. | Dec 13 17:13 |
FurnaceBoy | it looks like the old php was naively converting to: 0x20, 0x13 which is why you see the extra space in the title. | Dec 13 17:16 |
FurnaceBoy | but in fact, you want Unicode character 0x2013 | Dec 13 17:16 |
FurnaceBoy | which has a multiple byte encoding in utf8, with all >= 0x80 | Dec 13 17:16 |
FurnaceBoy | i.e. can NEVER trigger weird shit in your client with < 0x20 control characters, since they're never generated | Dec 13 17:16 |
schestowitz | http://thelinuxexperiment.com/guinea-pigs/jon-f/why-i-hate-samba/ | Dec 13 17:24 |
TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Why I Hate Samba | The Linux Experiment .::. Size~: 47.57 KB | Dec 13 17:24 |
schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: did you manage to locate tony? | Dec 13 17:25 |
FurnaceBoy | no | Dec 13 17:29 |
FurnaceBoy | i won't have much time to do so, i'm preparing for a trip | Dec 13 17:29 |
schestowitz | Whereabouts? | Dec 13 17:31 |
FurnaceBoy | wife's fam | Dec 13 17:35 |
FurnaceBoy | nowhere near you, unfortunately :) | Dec 13 17:35 |
schestowitz | http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2010/12/11/car-bomb-sweden.html | Dec 13 17:37 |
TechrightsBot-sc | Title: CBC News - World - Blasts rock Swedish capital .::. Size~: 34.31 KB | Dec 13 17:37 |
schestowitz | http://pogson.6k.ca/2010/12/11/sweden/ "Now the news from Sweden is all about getting locked up for weak evidence after partying, hosting the data of the guy they locked up, and suicide bombers. " | Dec 13 17:38 |
TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Sweden at Robert Pogson .::. Size~: 32.11 KB | Dec 13 17:38 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: right, the timing of that 'bombing' is rather neat, don;t you think? | Dec 13 17:41 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: "STAY ON MESSAGE, SWEDES" | Dec 13 17:41 |
schestowitz | It's not that | Dec 13 17:42 |
schestowitz | I read somewhere of engagement with police beforehand, so Portland came to mind | Dec 13 17:42 |
schestowitz | But frankly, this guy was an idiot and couldn't do it right, which makes it a rookie | Dec 13 17:43 |
schestowitz | And then quite likely a real hater of the artists | Dec 13 17:43 |
schestowitz | The Portland guy was stopped in advance, the underwear dude was not | Dec 13 17:43 |
schestowitz | "When Mr. Asay announced he was joining Canonical, I feared that he might influence Ubuntu." http://is.gd/iGcem | Dec 13 17:44 |
TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Matt Asay Leaves Canonical « The-Source.com .::. Size~: 34.16 KB | Dec 13 17:44 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: remember the recent FBI plots | Dec 13 17:45 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: real explosives, iirc | Dec 13 17:46 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: just saying, the timing is very interesting... | Dec 13 17:46 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: one to watch | Dec 13 17:46 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: another one to watch: Epstein 'incest' allegations | Dec 13 17:46 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: it was probably only his first suicide bombing, don't blame him for being inexperienced | Dec 13 17:57 |
schestowitz | Hm... | Dec 13 17:57 |
schestowitz | Well, I'l post some daily links, then go through IRC logs and dent a bit | Dec 13 17:58 |
schestowitz | Thanks for improving the PHP program, it's MUCHLY approcated | Dec 13 17:58 |
schestowitz | *reciated | Dec 13 17:58 |
FurnaceBoy | lemme fix that latest thing now... | Dec 13 18:00 |
FurnaceBoy | aha, yes. | Dec 13 18:01 |
FurnaceBoy | the php5 function doesn't handle unicode entities. | Dec 13 18:01 |
schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: I predict I have another year guaranteed to work on the site | Dec 13 18:01 |
schestowitz | So the IRC improvements are going to make a good contrib to it | Dec 13 18:02 |
FurnaceBoy | we can go further, so keep suggesting improvements. | Dec 13 18:02 |
schestowitz | Techrights expanded in scope now | Dec 13 18:03 |
schestowitz | Like I wrote in that post this morning | Dec 13 18:03 |
schestowitz | We might get less shy of politics cause politics invades s/w a lot now | Dec 13 18:03 |
schestowitz | And I think I've already ramped up my anti-war self | Dec 13 18:04 |
schestowitz | Which I abstained doing until recently, for obvious reasons | Dec 13 18:04 |
schestowitz | RMS is very political since years ago, inc. copyright which is where he campaigns a lot these days on his tours | Dec 13 18:05 |
schestowitz | For the bot we probably want to automate more things | Dec 13 18:05 |
schestowitz | I keep finding new ways of collaborating better not just in the site but also outside it | Dec 13 18:05 |
schestowitz | Groklaw did not do enough in that regard, PJ wanted to set up Wave, but it's kaput | Dec 13 18:06 |
schestowitz | One thing we did it built a network of people in twitter/identica | Dec 13 18:06 |
schestowitz | If you drew lines between people we speak to, you'll find many are from IRC and techrights comments | Dec 13 18:06 |
schestowitz | People befriend their friends' friends | Dec 13 18:07 |
schestowitz | I found ways of making recordings of techbytes a lot faster too | Dec 13 18:07 |
schestowitz | So the site has more components than just plain Apache, and I think that's vital | Dec 13 18:08 |
schestowitz | So here's an idea | Dec 13 18:08 |
schestowitz | We not have better tools for integrating IRC with twitter and identica | Dec 13 18:08 |
FurnaceBoy | ok i think i've fixed that issue. | Dec 13 18:08 |
schestowitz | And thinking as I go along we also use the site+wiki to organise content and shows | Dec 13 18:08 |
schestowitz | But there's room for more integration | Dec 13 18:09 |
FurnaceBoy | rms was always political. the gpl is political. whihc is why certain groups dislike it. | Dec 13 18:09 |
FurnaceBoy | it's activist. | Dec 13 18:09 |
schestowitz | and I don't know where your site is | Dec 13 18:09 |
schestowitz | Yes, but was FSF always so involved in outside issue? | Dec 13 18:09 |
schestowitz | RMS sure blogs a lot about politics and I think more so than before although I don't know him long enough | Dec 13 18:10 |
FurnaceBoy | not sure | Dec 13 18:10 |
FurnaceBoy | @FurnaceBoy | http://bit.ly/gsFrKJ | Dec 13 18:10 |
FurnaceBoy | phIRCe-14578 | Title: Sea of Joy – confused of calcutta .::. Size~: 62.22 KB | Dec 13 18:10 |
TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Sea of Joy confused of calcutta .::. Size~: 62.22 KB | Dec 13 18:10 |
FurnaceBoy | ^^ that's what you should see | Dec 13 18:10 |
schestowitz | Heh | Dec 13 18:10 |
schestowitz | Weird character there | Dec 13 18:10 |
FurnaceBoy | en dash | Dec 13 18:10 |
FurnaceBoy | displays correctly on my unicode setup | Dec 13 18:10 |
FurnaceBoy | (Deja Vu font) | Dec 13 18:10 |
FurnaceBoy | i'll send you new code | Dec 13 18:10 |
FurnaceBoy | sent | Dec 13 18:14 |
schestowitz | [17:57] <FurnaceBoy> schestowitz: it was probably only his first suicide bombing, don't blame him for being inexperienced | Dec 13 18:17 |
schestowitz | Heh. | Dec 13 18:17 |
schestowitz | He had one chance and he blew it | Dec 13 18:17 |
FurnaceBoy | there was a similar joke about Russian Arctic pilots | Dec 13 18:19 |
FurnaceBoy | but i can't remember how it goes | Dec 13 18:19 |
FurnaceBoy | :| | Dec 13 18:19 |
schestowitz | In Soviet Russia, bomb detonates man? | Dec 13 18:31 |
FurnaceBoy | no | Dec 13 18:35 |
FurnaceBoy | friend of mine is a polar explorer | Dec 13 18:35 |
FurnaceBoy | he went on an expedition to North Pole, ski | Dec 13 18:35 |
schestowitz | Nice | Dec 13 18:35 |
FurnaceBoy | started in Russia, tip of Novaya Zemlaya | Dec 13 18:35 |
schestowitz | Are you from Australia or just visited? | Dec 13 18:35 |
FurnaceBoy | from | Dec 13 18:36 |
FurnaceBoy | so is he | Dec 13 18:36 |
schestowitz | Why Canada? | Dec 13 18:36 |
FurnaceBoy | job | Dec 13 18:36 |
schestowitz | WHy not .au? | Dec 13 18:36 |
FurnaceBoy | and i ended up liking it. just don't like where it's going. | Dec 13 18:36 |
schestowitz | I though the economy there was good | Dec 13 18:36 |
FurnaceBoy | got bored there schestowitz after 35 years | Dec 13 18:36 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: AU and CA economies are both resilient -- resources based. | Dec 13 18:36 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: little hit from recession | Dec 13 18:36 |
schestowitz | Yes | Dec 13 18:36 |
schestowitz | UK is colonies based | Dec 13 18:37 |
schestowitz | To a degree | Dec 13 18:37 |
schestowitz | US and UK all about "IP" | Dec 13 18:37 |
schestowitz | Not real resources | Dec 13 18:37 |
schestowitz | Even mining was killed in the UK | Dec 13 18:37 |
FurnaceBoy | the joke is sort of like 'why are there no bad arctic pilots' | Dec 13 18:37 |
schestowitz | Manufacturing.. | Dec 13 18:37 |
schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: Darwin award | Dec 13 18:38 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: yeah this is another aspect of right wing stuff: "we want to be knowledge workers, not dirty factory workers" | Dec 13 18:38 |
FurnaceBoy | how's that working out for ya..... | Dec 13 18:38 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: yes. all the bad pilots are dead. :) | Dec 13 18:38 |
schestowitz | To be fair, right now I don't do physical work either | Dec 13 18:59 |
schestowitz | Many people here program | Dec 13 19:00 |
FurnaceBoy | yeah but as a national strategy? | Dec 13 19:00 |
FurnaceBoy | offshoring ALL manufacturing? | Dec 13 19:00 |
FurnaceBoy | who do you think suffers? | Dec 13 19:01 |
FurnaceBoy | How about the people now living in growing tent cities across the US | Dec 13 19:01 |
FurnaceBoy | or the 50 mln americans without food security | Dec 13 19:01 |
schestowitz | OK, just published 700k of Sunday's logs... http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/irc-log-techrights-12122010.html | Dec 13 19:01 |
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schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: they can do manufacturing | Dec 13 19:01 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: it's gone | Dec 13 19:01 |
schestowitz | But they are too expensive now | Dec 13 19:01 |
schestowitz | THe labour is laid off | Dec 13 19:02 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: not just that. it's gone. | Dec 13 19:02 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: the process of total offshoring started decades ago. | Dec 13 19:02 |
schestowitz | not from Erth | Dec 13 19:02 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: there was a time when Massachusetts for example made clothes | Dec 13 19:02 |
schestowitz | Semi-attached to machine still a man's job... | Dec 13 19:02 |
schestowitz | But not in the US | Dec 13 19:02 |
schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: OK, but... | Dec 13 19:02 |
schestowitz | Then they relied on social security | Dec 13 19:03 |
schestowitz | aka debt generator | Dec 13 19:03 |
FurnaceBoy | military | Dec 13 19:03 |
FurnaceBoy | war | Dec 13 19:03 |
FurnaceBoy | UK, Fr, Il, De, US, Ru ... major arms makers ... the G7, G8, whatever... the "first world" | Dec 13 19:05 |
schestowitz | OK, all files overwritten | Dec 13 19:06 |
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schestowitz | http://bit.ly/gsFrKJ | Dec 13 19:07 |
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schestowitz | neat | Dec 13 19:07 |
FurnaceBoy | :) | Dec 13 19:08 |
schestowitz | We could think of more ways of enhancing cde | Dec 13 19:09 |
schestowitz | *code | Dec 13 19:10 |
FurnaceBoy | yes | Dec 13 19:10 |
schestowitz | For example, the identica bot only echoes replies to people within the syndicated group to reduce s/n ratio (yes, signal on top) | Dec 13 19:10 |
schestowitz | So opposite... | Dec 13 19:10 |
schestowitz | increase it or not decrease | Dec 13 19:11 |
schestowitz | bug... | Dec 13 19:13 |
schestowitz | !google any term | Dec 13 19:13 |
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schestowitz | PHP Fatal error: Call to undefined method phirce::unhtmlentities() | Dec 13 19:14 |
schestowitz | What pck is it in? | Dec 13 19:15 |
FurnaceBoy | hm! | Dec 13 19:15 |
FurnaceBoy | odd | Dec 13 19:15 |
schestowitz | .$this->unhtmlentities(($searchresult->titleNoFormatting))." | $searchresult->url\r\n"); | Dec 13 19:17 |
FurnaceBoy | yes. | Dec 13 19:18 |
schestowitz | did you add it? | Dec 13 19:18 |
FurnaceBoy | this is no longer correct, i'll send an update. | Dec 13 19:18 |
FurnaceBoy | no, the code was removed. | Dec 13 19:18 |
FurnaceBoy | i'll fix | Dec 13 19:18 |
schestowitz | ok | Dec 13 19:18 |
schestowitz | @wikileaks2] Wikileaks documentary by SVT | http://goo.gl/WzPtP !wl | Dec 13 19:19 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: (i just didn't realise it was used in multiple places) | Dec 13 19:21 |
schestowitz | Heh. http://www.pwnage.ca/?p=1173 | Dec 13 19:30 |
schestowitz | http://linux.die.net/man/1/strobe | Dec 13 20:16 |
schestowitz | Julian's tool | Dec 13 20:16 |
FurnaceBoy | The nature of his injuries led at least one pathologist to conclude Peach's skull was crushed with an unauthorised weapon, such as a lead-weighted cosh or police radio. | Dec 13 20:27 |
FurnaceBoy | It was already known that when Cass raided lockers at the SPG headquarters he uncovered a stash of unauthorised weapons, including illegal truncheons, knives, two crowbars, a whip, a 3ft wooden stave and a lead-weighted leather stick. | Dec 13 20:27 |
FurnaceBoy | One officer was caught trying to hide a metal cosh, although it was not the weapon that killed Peach. Another officer was found with a collection of Nazi regalia. | Dec 13 20:27 |
schestowitz | Revolting | Dec 13 20:35 |
FurnaceBoy | Tomlinson spurred the re-opening. interesting. | Dec 13 20:36 |
FurnaceBoy | they have a lot to hide, like RCMP | Dec 13 20:36 |
schestowitz | But in that film about Russia that your mate told me about the Russian cops kept Hilter's liteature, too | Dec 13 20:36 |
FurnaceBoy | Dziekanski | Dec 13 20:36 |
schestowitz | There's a fine line between police forces, armies, and sometimes tyrant admirers | Dec 13 20:36 |
FurnaceBoy | seems so | Dec 13 20:36 |
FurnaceBoy | friend discovered a police board here in Canada | Dec 13 20:36 |
FurnaceBoy | web site | Dec 13 20:37 |
FurnaceBoy | it's like a secret soceity | Dec 13 20:37 |
FurnaceBoy | iety* | Dec 13 20:37 |
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FurnaceBoy | bbiab | Dec 13 20:37 |
schestowitz | ok | Dec 13 20:44 |
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schestowitz | "As part of your application you will need to provide within your CV documentation a 500-word review on Fedora 14. " LOL http://jobsearch.futurenet.com/jobsearch/jobdetails.asp?PageNum=1&PageNav=SearchResults&JobID=1177 | Dec 13 21:08 |
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schestowitz | Found in "-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @mohanpram: Job posting for staff writer for Linux Format magazine http://ur1.ca/2kn8k" | Dec 13 21:08 |
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schestowitz | Mukasey: Prosecute Assange because it’s ‘easier’ than prosecuting New York Times http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/12/mukasey-prosecute-assange-easier-times/ | Dec 13 21:17 |
TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Mukasey: Prosecute Assange because it’s ‘easier’ than prosecuting New York Times | Raw Story .::. Size~: 41.64 KB | Dec 13 21:17 |
schestowitz | !google cash it | Dec 13 21:23 |
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schestowitz | !google crash it | Dec 13 21:23 |
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TechrightsBot-sc | Hello World! | Dec 13 21:26 |
schestowitz | !google crash it | Dec 13 21:26 |
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schestowitz | !google crash it | Dec 13 21:29 |
TechrightsBot-sc | [1] - Crash IT | WebSites | PC Sales | Networks | Helpdesk Support | http://www.crashit.com.au/ | Dec 13 21:29 |
TechrightsBot-sc | [2] - YouTube - CRASH IT!!! - "RaptorRed" (Street Legal Racing: Redline) | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D7qMgDlSvgGs | Dec 13 21:29 |
TechrightsBot-sc | [3] - Fair Game - Housing Doesn't Need a Crash. It Needs Bold Ideas ... | http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/12/business/12gret.html | Dec 13 21:29 |
TechrightsBot-sc | [4] - Tom Brady Talks Car Crash: "It Was Like The Matrix" - E! Online | http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b200248_tom_brady_talks_car_crash_it_was_like.html | Dec 13 21:29 |
FurnaceBoy | lol | Dec 13 22:18 |
FurnaceBoy | testing only... http://twitter.com/#!/DetentionWatch/status/14445684602179584 | Dec 13 22:25 |
TechrightsBot-sc | @DetentionWatch: RT @willcoley: Hispanic GOP group decries @KayBaileyHutch for opposing #DREAMAct http://bit.ly/i0KAGw via @dallas_news #ri4a immigration | Dec 13 22:25 |
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FurnaceBoy | testing... http://twitter.com/#!/qu1j0t3/status/14338662913282048 | Dec 13 22:26 |
TechrightsBot-sc | @qu1j0t3: Under-reported: #Wikileaks begins to corroborate #fbi whistleblower Sibel Edmonds http://ur1.ca/2kq3u http://ur1.ca/2kumu #turkey #pakistan | Dec 13 22:26 |
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FurnaceBoy | http://ur1.ca/2kumu | Dec 13 22:26 |
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FurnaceBoy | Quadrescence: schestowitz http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1210/Greenwald_quits_CREW_over_WikiLeaks.html | Dec 13 22:29 |
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FurnaceBoy | Weismann, CREW's chief counsel, sharply criticized WikiLeaks on Huffington Post, approvingly quoting a condemnation of the group as "among the enemies of open society because it does not respect the rule of law." | Dec 13 22:29 |
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