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qu1j0t3first check you have pecl and gcc:Dec 13 00:00
qu1j0t3which peclDec 13 00:00
qu1j0t3which gccDec 13 00:00
qu1j0t3if not,    yum install php-pear php-devel gccDec 13 00:00
qu1j0t3then follow the instructions at top, including creation of /etc/php.d/json.iniDec 13 00:00
qu1j0t3schestowitz: then the other part is,    yum install php-xmlDec 13 00:03
qu1j0t3and then you should be good to go.Dec 13 00:04
qu1j0t3i'll add this to the readme file for tha botDec 13 00:04
schestowitzI used that page, qu1j0t3Dec 13 00:05
schestowitzMaybe even pasted the link hereDec 13 00:05
schestowitzLoaded plugins: fastestmirrorDec 13 00:05
schestowitzRepository 'centos-copilotco' is missing name in configuration, using idDec 13 00:05
schestowitzLoading mirror speeds from cached hostfileDec 13 00:05
schestowitzSetting up Install ProcessDec 13 00:05
schestowitzPackage 1:php-pear-1.4.9-6.el5.noarch already installed and latest versionDec 13 00:05
schestowitzPackage php-devel-5.1.6-27.el5.x86_64 already installed and latest versionDec 13 00:05
schestowitzPackage gcc-4.1.2-48.el5.x86_64 already installed and latest versionDec 13 00:05
schestowitzNothing to doDec 13 00:05
qu1j0t3schestowitz: it worked fine for me.Dec 13 00:05
qu1j0t3what part fails?Dec 13 00:06
schestowitzSkipping package "pear/json", already installed as version 1.2.1Dec 13 00:06
schestowitzNo valid packages foundDec 13 00:06
schestowitzinstall failedDec 13 00:06
qu1j0t3fine.Dec 13 00:06
qu1j0t3did you create the /etc/php.d/json.ini file?Dec 13 00:06
schestowitz have nowDec 13 00:07
schestowitzI did it in another file before...Dec 13 00:07
qu1j0t3for a simple test,Dec 13 00:07
qu1j0t3php -r 'json_decode("");'Dec 13 00:07
schestowitzDIfferent instructions I usedDec 13 00:07
qu1j0t3if that produces no error, then it's good.Dec 13 00:07
schestowitzno outputDec 13 00:07
qu1j0t3ok cool!Dec 13 00:08
schestowitzOK, let's try nowDec 13 00:08
qu1j0t3noDec 13 00:08
schestowitzcrash it firstDec 13 00:08
qu1j0t31 more stepDec 13 00:08
schestowitz!google qu1j0t3Dec 13 00:08
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qu1j0t3well, that will fail.Dec 13 00:08
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TechrightsBot-scHello World!Dec 13 00:08
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Main Page - Techrights .::. Size~: 37.79 KBDec 13 00:08
schestowitz!google qu1j0t3Dec 13 00:08
TechrightsBot-sc[1] - SrinivasaKettenbruch (qu1j0t3) on Twitter | http://twitter.com/qu1j0t3Dec 13 00:08
TechrightsBot-sc[2] - Flickr: qu1j0t3 | http://www.flickr.com/people/qu1j0t3/Dec 13 00:08
TechrightsBot-sc[3] - _MG_6228 | Flickr - Photo Sharing! | http://www.flickr.com/photos/qu1j0t3/4128892361/Dec 13 00:08
TechrightsBot-sc[4] - Adobe Forums: qu1j0t3's Profile | http://forums.adobe.com/people/qu1j0t3Dec 13 00:08
qu1j0t3right,Dec 13 00:08
schestowitzAh!!@Dec 13 00:08
qu1j0t3now:   yum install php-xmlDec 13 00:08
schestowitzThis is  handyDec 13 00:08
schestowitz]When you want to bring up lots of good linksDec 13 00:08
schestowitzdoneDec 13 00:09
schestowitzis that enough yet?Dec 13 00:09
qu1j0t3restart the bot, let's testDec 13 00:09
schestowitz!google crash botDec 13 00:10
TechrightsBot-sc[1] - ipcop support • View topic - ipcop crash!!!! BOT or Anything else???? | http://www.ipcops.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php%3Ff%3D7%26t%3D13008Dec 13 00:10
TechrightsBot-sc[2] - Crashbot Industries | http://www.crashbotindustries.com/Dec 13 00:10
TechrightsBot-sc[3] - GAme crashes when playing with Bots - Urban Terror Forums | http://forums.urbanterror.info/topic/21674-game-crashes-when-playing-with-bots/Dec 13 00:10
TechrightsBot-sc[4] - Bot commands crash chat | http://bebot.shadow-realm.org/aoc-0-6-support/bot-commands-crash-chat/Dec 13 00:10
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ErinBird/status/13977649500127232Dec 13 00:10
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TechrightsBot-scHello World!Dec 13 00:10
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Main Page - Techrights .::. Size~: 37.79 KBDec 13 00:10
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ErinBird/status/13977649500127232Dec 13 00:11
TechrightsBot-sc@ErinBird: @schestowitz OK, What's the best known Linux distribution that doesn't ship Mono applications?... http://bit.ly/gdPIVjDec 13 00:11
TechrightsBot-sc-> Title:  OK, What's the best known Linux distribution that doesn't ship Mono applications?  .::. Size~: 19.04 KBDec 13 00:11
schestowitz:-)Dec 13 00:11
qu1j0t3http://twitter.com/ender2070/status/14075653137637376Dec 13 00:11
TechrightsBot-sc@ender2070: @schestowitz none of the people currently tracking you are offering a free netbookDec 13 00:11
schestowitzneatDec 13 00:11
schestowitz!google phirceDec 13 00:11
TechrightsBot-sc[1] - Ubuntu 10.04 Increases Mono Dependency | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2010/03/01/ubuntu-mono-games-and-gbrainy/Dec 13 00:11
TechrightsBot-sc[2] - Novell Hires More Mono People (Despite Sacking SUSE Developers ... | http://techrights.org/2010/03/19/microsoft-sets-the-tone-with-money/Dec 13 00:11
TechrightsBot-sc[3] - Firm Behind Novell Bid Has Shady Past, Could be Tied to Microsoft ... | http://techrights.org/2010/03/04/analysis-of-elliott-singer-and-sco/Dec 13 00:11
TechrightsBot-sc[4] - Microsoft as Communism, Revisited | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2009/12/12/communist-smear-vs-free-software/Dec 13 00:11
qu1j0t3!google fuckerbergDec 13 00:11
TechrightsBot-sc[1] - Zuck you, Fuckerberg. | Facebook | http://www.facebook.com/group.php%3Fgid%3D2209790843Dec 13 00:11
TechrightsBot-sc[2] - Zuck yourself Fuckerberg | Wud First Industries | http://wudfirstindustries.com/node/134Dec 13 00:11
TechrightsBot-sc[3] - Mark Fuckerberg | Flickr - Photo Sharing! | http://www.flickr.com/photos/ivorjawa/4588736005/Dec 13 00:11
TechrightsBot-sc[4] - Mark Zuckerberg - Encyclopedia Dramatica | http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Mark_ZuckerbergDec 13 00:11
FurnaceBoyhttp://twitter.com/#!/Cristoforou/status/13709876840628224Dec 13 00:13
TechrightsBot-sc@Cristoforou: 写真を整理し終わったのだが、ドイツ人にとってもらった写真がなぜかどれもひどくボケている。Dec 13 00:13
FurnaceBoyhttp://twitter.com/#!/pmross/status/13695538901815296Dec 13 00:14
TechrightsBot-sc@pmross: Lego Antikythera Mechanism http://bit.ly/gtYkgv and the original Antikythera Mechanism http://bit.ly/hwYizwDec 13 00:14
TechrightsBot-sc-> Title:  YouTube - Lego Antikythera Mechanism  .::. Size~: 136.67 KBDec 13 00:14
TechrightsBot-sc-> Title: Antikythera mechanism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 208.01 KBDec 13 00:14
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: ^^ new feature. it sniffs urls inside tweets and dents (but does not archive those)Dec 13 00:14
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: it DOES archive tweets, dents, and any URL media type (incl cited pdfs, images)Dec 13 00:14
schestowitzniceDec 13 00:15
schestowitzNow I can paste tweets I like itDec 13 00:15
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/60306163Dec 13 00:15
TechrightsBot-sc@Laurel Russwurm (laurelrusswurm)'s status on Sunday, 12-Dec-10 23:18:24 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz the CRTC has already compromised #NetNeutrality in Canada by giving Bell permisssion to throttle & discriminateDec 13 00:15
FurnaceBoyhttp://twitter.com/#!/rubberstamprosk/status/13682336482729984Dec 13 00:16
TechrightsBot-sc@rubberstamprosk: Bush Tax Cut Failure #9 : A Sagging Stock Market http://bit.ly/g7rlsN #wherearethejobs #pledge #p2 #youcutDec 13 00:16
TechrightsBot-sc-> Title: 10 Epic Failures of the Bush Tax Cuts | Crooks and Liars .::. Size~: 104.59 KBDec 13 00:16
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/60301173Dec 13 00:21
TechrightsBot-sc@NumberedHumanIndustries (nhi)'s status on Sunday, 12-Dec-10 21:17:49 UTC - Identi.ca: ♻ @schestowitz: ♻ @rsandu Pentagon Whistleblower Daniel Ellsberg: Julian Assange is Not a Terrorist  http://is.gd/iDbHW #wikileaksDec 13 00:21
TechrightsBot-sc-> Title: Pentagon Whistleblower Daniel Ellsberg: Julian Assange is Not a Terrorist .::. Size~: 60.13 KBDec 13 00:21
FurnaceBoy:)Dec 13 00:21
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: happy? :)Dec 13 00:25
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schestowitzFurnaceBoy: like a kid with a new toyDec 13 00:32
schestowitz!google qu1j0t3 libreDec 13 00:32
TechrightsBot-sc[1] - Archivo:Dg-nova3.jpg - Wikipedia, la enciclopedia libre | http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archivo:Dg-nova3.jpgDec 13 00:32
TechrightsBot-sc[2] - FU-BAR | http://blog.1407.org/Dec 13 00:32
TechrightsBot-sc[3] - IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: October 4th, 2010 | http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/irc-log-techrights-04102010.htmlDec 13 00:32
TechrightsBot-sc[4] - IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: November 18th, 2010 | http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/irc-log-techrights-18112010.htmlDec 13 00:32
schestowitzHeh. Rui's blogDec 13 00:33
schestowitzhttp://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archivo:Dg-nova3.jpg "ser Qu1j0t3 on en.wikipedia"Dec 13 00:33
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Archivo:Dg-nova3.jpg - Wikipedia, la enciclopedia libre .::. Size~: 28.11 KBDec 13 00:33
schestowitzSomeone is libelling me again http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.java.programmer/browse_thread/thread/9cab4bc5dffbc8a2/d5e43fe847d6cf51?show_docid=d5e43fe847d6cf51Dec 13 00:38
TechrightsBot-scTitle:  Seamus is Roy Schestowitz, notorious Linux advocacy troll. - comp.lang.java.programmer | Google Groups  .::. Size~: 55.8 KBDec 13 00:38
schestowitzhm... bot crashed..Dec 13 00:46
schestowitz:TRIdentica!~twitfolk@216.105.40.114 NOTICE #techrights :[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] Something I really like about the !Techbytes audio cast is how at the end in more recent episodes there will be different music. :)Dec 13 00:47
schestowitz:TechrightsBot-tr!~b0t@216.105.40.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 secondsDec 13 00:47
schestowitzERROR :Closing Link: 216.105.40.114 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)Dec 13 00:47
schestowitzDisconnecting...Dec 13 00:47
schestowitzDisconnected!Dec 13 00:47
schestowitzOdd...Dec 13 00:47
FurnaceBoyping timeoutDec 13 00:47
schestowitzyeahDec 13 00:47
schestowitzrareDec 13 00:47
FurnaceBoyanything logged?Dec 13 00:47
sebsebsebschestowitz: uh what was that?Dec 13 00:47
schestowitzit's the log fileDec 13 00:48
sebsebsebok well I got high lightedDec 13 00:48
FurnaceBoysebsebseb: yeah, read the msgDec 13 00:48
FurnaceBoysebsebseb: it's pretty self explanatory :)Dec 13 00:48
sebsebsebFurnaceBoy: yes I see why I got high lighted, but I wondered whyDec 13 00:48
FurnaceBoya pasteDec 13 00:49
schestowitzI run it as background jobDec 13 00:49
schestowitzcat  irc-techrights.shDec 13 00:49
schestowitzcd ~/phirce-techrights && nohup php -q bot.php &Dec 13 00:49
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: there's a nohup.out fileDec 13 00:49
sebsebsebschestowitz: oh your looking at why it crashed?Dec 13 00:49
sebsebsebschestowitz: anyway all the music that goes in techbytes is open / creative commons I assumeDec 13 00:50
sebsebsebalso maybe some people would take offence to some of the music in episode 14 or notDec 13 00:50
schestowitzyeahDec 13 00:50
schestowitzsebsebseb: language?Dec 13 00:50
sebsebsebyeahDec 13 00:51
schestowitzI noticed bad wordsDec 13 00:51
schestowitzBut it's a trackDec 13 00:51
sebsebsebexactly thats what I mean the bad words, but yeah its musicDec 13 00:51
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: no nohup.out?Dec 13 00:51
sebsebsebschestowitz: yeah who needs propritary music, when there is all this great creative commons music these daysDec 13 00:51
Ender2070I hear so much of it on the radio tooDec 13 00:52
sebsebsebEnder2070: yeah thats all they play on the radio when it comes to music, propritary musicDec 13 00:52
Ender2070how evilDec 13 00:53
Ender2070music that costs money...Dec 13 00:53
FurnaceBoyEnder2070: urmom costs money!Dec 13 00:53
sebsebsebsomething I been thinking about recentlyDec 13 00:53
sebsebsebas wellDec 13 00:53
sebsebsebhow its not really an art if they are being paidDec 13 00:54
sebsebsebif they really care about the music, they would do it for free?Dec 13 00:54
Ender2070way to win an conversationDec 13 00:54
sebsebsebotherwise making music is just a job for them realyDec 13 00:54
Ender2070it is a jobDec 13 00:54
Ender2070half these musicians don't even write the lyricsDec 13 00:54
sebsebsebyeah, but if pepole really care about something, they will do it for freeDec 13 00:54
sebsebsebbe that making opensource/freesoftware or making musicDec 13 00:54
sebsebsebits just we have  this money system as well, so its not quite the caseDec 13 00:54
sebsebsebso yeah what Jono Bacon is doing is goodDec 13 00:56
sebsebsebhoweverDec 13 00:56
schestowitzNew ideas come from freedomDec 13 00:56
Ender2070how do you eatDec 13 00:56
schestowitzAt my job I get freedom to implement what I think is coolkDec 13 00:56
Ender2070eventually you'll need money at some pointDec 13 00:56
schestowitzAt least for now...Dec 13 00:56
sebsebsebhowever many of the Ubuntu fan boys and such will listen to his music, because you know its the uhmm "amzing awesome Jono Bacon"Dec 13 00:56
schestowitzI am discouraged from asking advice about direction, which is niceDec 13 00:56
sebsebsebI think thats the right useage of quotes thereDec 13 00:56
sebsebsebschestowitz: what is your job?Dec 13 00:56
schestowitz!google "amazing awesome Jono Bacon"Dec 13 00:56
sebsebsebschestowitz: no I wasn't quoting someone elseDec 13 00:57
schestowitzsebsebseb: PR for "amazing awesome Jono Bacon"Dec 13 00:57
schestowitzNo results foundDec 13 00:57
sebsebsebschestowitz: I was just trying to make it stand out,  what other people may thinkDec 13 00:57
sebsebsebor  the kind of thing they may thinkDec 13 00:57
schestowitz!google "awesome Jono Bacon"Dec 13 00:57
TechrightsBot-sc[1] - Try Natty Alpha 1 safely using a usb stick | http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/12/tray-natty-alpha-1-safely-using-a-usb-stick/Dec 13 00:57
TechrightsBot-sc[2] - Reflections on Ubuntu, Canonical and the march to free software ... | http://www.linoob.com/forum/showthread.php%3Ftid%3D235Dec 13 00:57
TechrightsBot-sc[3] - OMG! Ubuntu | www.ubuntu.cz | http://www.ubuntu.cz/aggregator/sources/1%3Fpage%3D2Dec 13 00:57
TechrightsBot-sc[4] - Mark Shuttleworth » 2010 » September | http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/date/2010/09Dec 13 00:57
sebsebseband uhmm that was bound to give resultsDec 13 00:57
schestowitzHe says awesome a lotDec 13 00:57
sebsebsebhe really does like the word awesomeDec 13 00:57
sebsebsebschestowitz: we thought the same it seems :D just nowDec 13 00:57
schestowitz!google "awful Jono Bacon"Dec 13 00:58
schestowitz!google "full Jono Bacon"Dec 13 00:58
schestowitz!google "full  Bacon"Dec 13 00:58
TechrightsBot-sc[1] - Bacon and Cheese Roll - Full Size Photo - FoodProof | http://foodproof.com/photos/full/bacon-cheese-roll-1290Dec 13 00:58
TechrightsBot-sc[2] - Amazon.com: Full Bacon Jacket (9781844014873): Tom Hathaway: Books | http://www.amazon.com/Full-Bacon-Jacket-Tom-Hathaway/dp/1844014878Dec 13 00:58
TechrightsBot-sc[3] - What's Next For The Folks Behind Bacon Salt & Baconnaise? - The ... | http://consumerist.com/2010/10/whats-next-for-the-folks-behind-bacon-salt-baconnaise.htmlDec 13 00:58
TechrightsBot-sc[4] - What's next for the makers of 'Baconnaise' | http://blog.seattlepi.com/thebigblog/archives/223875.aspDec 13 00:58
Ender2070if certain people had their way, we would all be working for free, either living on welfare or doing grunt work to be able to eatDec 13 00:58
sebsebseb!google Roy SchestowitzDec 13 00:58
TechrightsBot-sc[1] - Schestowitz, Roy | http://schestowitz.com/Dec 13 00:58
TechrightsBot-sc[2] - Roy Schestowitz | http://schestowitz.com/roy/Dec 13 00:58
TechrightsBot-sc[3] - Dr. Roy Schestowitz | Techrights | http://techrights.org/author/schestowitz/Dec 13 00:58
TechrightsBot-sc[4] - Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz) on Twitter | http://twitter.com/schestowitzDec 13 00:58
sebsebseb!google mageiaDec 13 00:58
Ender2070not everyone can run a non profit and live off of the donationsDec 13 00:58
TechrightsBot-sc[1] - Mageia - A New Linux Distribution | http://mageia.org/Dec 13 00:58
TechrightsBot-sc[2] - Mageia Blog (English) | The new linux distribution | http://blog.mageia.org/Dec 13 00:58
TechrightsBot-sc[3] - Mageia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MageiaDec 13 00:58
TechrightsBot-sc[4] - Mandriva forks to Mageia Linux | http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS3165663211.htmlDec 13 00:58
sebsebseb!google Ender2070Dec 13 00:59
TechrightsBot-sc[1] - Brandon Lozza (ender2070) on Twitter | http://twitter.com/ender2070Dec 13 00:59
TechrightsBot-sc[2] - Twitter / Michael L. Love: @ender2070 Little old me? | http://twitter.com/gnudarwin/status/10858300757254144Dec 13 00:59
TechrightsBot-sc[3] - Brandon Lozza (ender2070)'s status on Sunday, 12-Dec-10 04:35:02 ... | http://identi.ca/notice/60266753Dec 13 00:59
TechrightsBot-sc[4] - Allegation: Novell Has “Profit Motive for Pushing Mono Everywhere ... | http://techrights.org/2010/10/26/mono-open-core-and-money/Dec 13 00:59
schestowitz!google !google  !googleDec 13 00:59
TechrightsBot-sc[1] - Google | http://www.google.co.uk/Dec 13 00:59
TechrightsBot-sc[2] - Google Goggles | http://www.google.com/mobile/goggles/Dec 13 00:59
TechrightsBot-sc[3] - Doodle 4 Google | http://www.google.com/doodle4google/Dec 13 00:59
TechrightsBot-sc[4] - Google - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GoogleDec 13 00:59
sebsebseb!google sebsebsebDec 13 00:59
TechrightsBot-sc[1] - Sebastian (sebsebseb) - Identi.ca | http://identi.ca/user/275090Dec 13 00:59
TechrightsBot-sc[2] - Sébastien BLONDY (sebsebseb) on Twitter | http://twitter.com/sebsebsebDec 13 00:59
TechrightsBot-sc[3] - Sebastian (sebsebseb)'s status on Sunday, 12-Dec-10 04:35:25 UTC ... | http://www.debianblogs.com/sebastian_sebsebsebs_status_on_sunday_12dec10_043525_utcDec 13 00:59
TechrightsBot-sc[4] - Seb Seb (SEB) on Myspace | http://www.myspace.com/sebastian_th/photos/error%3Ferror%3D1Dec 13 00:59
sebsebsebschestowitz: I got Twitter as of a few days now, but yeah I will hardly use it :)Dec 13 00:59
sebsebsebschestowitz: and I am not going to link it to Identica eitherDec 13 00:59
Ender2070goodDec 13 00:59
schestowitzsebsebseb: Just link it to your identica acctDec 13 00:59
sebsebseband the name I got is a bit sucky, but well as you can see aboveDec 13 01:00
sebsebsebsomeone else took the sebsebseb nameDec 13 01:00
schestowitzoh, beat me to itDec 13 01:00
sebsebsebschestowitz: uhmm well no point really, look at my tweets so far :dDec 13 01:00
Ender2070I find twitter betterDec 13 01:00
sebsebsebhttp://twitter.com/asebsebsebDec 13 01:00
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Sebastian (asebsebseb) on Twitter .::. Size~: 23.43 KBDec 13 01:00
FurnaceBoyEnder2070: but its proprietary!Dec 13 01:00
Ender2070more users, more topics and well more usersDec 13 01:00
Ender2070OH NOE!Dec 13 01:00
sebsebsebasebsebseb yes I know lame name with the a, but I very nearly have sebsebseb that wayDec 13 01:00
Ender2070your food is proprietary tooDec 13 01:00
sebsebsebschestowitz: see what my dents sayDec 13 01:01
Ender2070#conspiracy is practically DEAD on identicaDec 13 01:01
sebsebsebschestowitz: also yeah click and you and mageia and ender I think I subscribed toDec 13 01:01
sebsebsebEnder2070: Identica is way better, it has groups :)Dec 13 01:01
sebsebsebalso it doesn't haveDec 13 01:01
sebsebsebwell most of the lame Internet connected consumersDec 13 01:01
sebsebsebyou know lame average peopleDec 13 01:01
Ender2070but you need a twitter account anyways just to access the peopleDec 13 01:02
Ender2070so why have two accounts to do the same exact thingDec 13 01:02
Ender2070its kind of crazyDec 13 01:02
*FurnaceBoy wishes he had some red wineDec 13 01:02
sebsebsebEnder2070: so yeah Twitter will be mainly for me to follow other people, and sometimes to do tweets maybe @bbclick for example maybeDec 13 01:02
Ender2070hey, its not like twitter costs moneyDec 13 01:02
sebsebsebEnder2070: Twitter is like Facebook, has the lame average consumer on itDec 13 01:02
sebsebseband is very popular with them as wellDec 13 01:02
sebsebsebwith people that suck in  other wordsDec 13 01:03
sebsebsebif you get what I meanDec 13 01:03
Ender2070well there are certain topics I follow that are dead on identicaDec 13 01:03
Ender2070i cant force people to use identicaDec 13 01:03
Ender2070most of these people haven't even heard of linuxDec 13 01:03
sebsebsebEnder2070: identica its like awesome :) mainly opensource/freesoftware/Linux peopleDec 13 01:03
sebsebsebalso someone did a good blog entry about twitter and statusnet/identica comparingDec 13 01:03
sebsebsebEnder2070: I tend to get on best with people who know what Linux is :) or so it seemsDec 13 01:04
sebsebsebI mean people who know what it is, and use itDec 13 01:04
sebsebsebonline and yeahDec 13 01:04
Ender2070I know enough of those peopleDec 13 01:04
Ender2070they all use twitter tooDec 13 01:04
sebsebsebwhy use two sites for the same thing like you were sayingDec 13 01:04
sebsebsebplus I can't send to identica groups from Twitter anyway soDec 13 01:05
sebsebsebuhm Twitter no thanksDec 13 01:05
Ender2070I don't only talk about open source and free softwareDec 13 01:05
sebsebsebEnder2070: no I got other  interests to, but its a major interest of mine since 2004 :)Dec 13 01:05
Ender2070yeah thats fineDec 13 01:06
sebsebsebI mainly have Twitter since ClickDec 13 01:06
sebsebsebBBC ClickDec 13 01:06
Ender2070actually I wish some of the people on twitter would follow you out tooDec 13 01:06
Ender2070lolDec 13 01:06
sebsebsebfollow you out??Dec 13 01:06
Ender2070yeahDec 13 01:06
sebsebsebohDec 13 01:06
sebsebsebyou mean well you were jokingDec 13 01:06
sebsebseb,but you meanDec 13 01:06
Ender2070people spamming twitter instead of taking actionDec 13 01:06
sebsebseblikeDec 13 01:06
Ender2070i dont mean youDec 13 01:07
Ender2070other peopleDec 13 01:07
sebsebseboh your on about spam,  I misunderstood totally thenDec 13 01:07
sebsebsebidentica is getting spam accounts and trolls as wellDec 13 01:07
sebsebsebschestowitz: oh yeah as of this morning, so quite a lot of hours agoDec 13 01:07
sebsebsebschestowitz: I also have disapora :)Dec 13 01:07
sebsebsebwhich seems to be sucky so far, but yeah I got itDec 13 01:07
Ender2070theres some big free software people who spam socialism, globalism, environmentalism and the like on twitterDec 13 01:07
Ender2070even if I unfollow them, people on my list talk to themDec 13 01:07
sebsebsebEnder2070: Twitter is propritaryDec 13 01:08
sebsebsebidentica :)Dec 13 01:08
sebsebsebI agree with schestowitzDec 13 01:08
Ender2070laurelrusswurm is a big exampleDec 13 01:08
Ender2070she uses every right wing mistake as ammo to bash themDec 13 01:08
Ender2070instead of doing something about itDec 13 01:08
sebsebsebyeah well shes some woman not quite sure who she is, seen her stuff on identica thoughDec 13 01:08
Ender2070I'd like to know what her RCMP case # is against FlanaganDec 13 01:08
Ender2070but im sure shes just using the issue, not actually caring about Assange's lifeDec 13 01:10
sebsebsebEnder2070: identica is addictiveDec 13 01:12
sebsebsebI am likeing it more than IRC now days :)Dec 13 01:12
Ender2070she always hammers steven harper for ACTA, yet, socialism doesn't permit her to criticize the fact that the person in charge of that in Canada (Tony Clement) isn't even CanadianDec 13 01:12
sebsebseband IRC can be rather addictive as wellDec 13 01:12
Ender2070oh I agreeDec 13 01:12
FurnaceBoysocialists set up g20?Dec 13 01:12
FurnaceBoyhow do u figure that?Dec 13 01:13
Ender2070I'd say they didDec 13 01:13
FurnaceBoyhow?Dec 13 01:13
Ender2070what do you mean howDec 13 01:13
FurnaceBoyoccam's razor says noDec 13 01:13
Ender2070look who was in chargeDec 13 01:13
FurnaceBoyhow exactlyDec 13 01:13
schestowitzGroklaw finally covers wikileaks, it doesn't shy awayDec 13 01:13
Ender2070did you miss the police state?Dec 13 01:13
FurnaceBoyHarper was in charge.Dec 13 01:13
schestowitzBut it kept ignoring the subject till days agoDec 13 01:13
Ender2070Harper is socialist, if you didn't noticeDec 13 01:14
FurnaceBoyhe is?Dec 13 01:14
Ender2070hes just a good script readerDec 13 01:14
FurnaceBoyoh, i see.Dec 13 01:14
Ender2070he never does what he saysDec 13 01:14
FurnaceBoyexcept for the whole part about policiesDec 13 01:14
Ender2070he continues on what the last guy didDec 13 01:14
FurnaceBoythere's not a socialist bone in his body.Dec 13 01:14
FurnaceBoyor in anyone from the Klein schoolDec 13 01:14
Ender2070hes certainly a globalistDec 13 01:14
Ender2070so even if hes not in his mind, being a globalist puts him into the hands of socialist policiesDec 13 01:15
FurnaceBoysure, but that's typical right wing stuff. Friedmanite.Dec 13 01:15
FurnaceBoyEnder2070: if you think Harper's a socialist, you must think Thomas Friedman is.Dec 13 01:15
schestowitzeww...Dec 13 01:15
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: not that I want to dicsuc i meean discuss FriedmanDec 13 01:15
Ender2070even if hes not socialist at allDec 13 01:15
Ender2070the government still isDec 13 01:15
schestowitzBTW, the truth about bankers was said by Sanders days agoDec 13 01:16
schestowitzNow they try to paint him a "socialist"Dec 13 01:16
Ender2070he has minority powerDec 13 01:16
schestowitzLike the Obama smearDec 13 01:16
FurnaceBoyEnder2070: yes, Trudeau's canada from where you are looks socialist.Dec 13 01:16
schestowitzFurnaceBoy: not worse than Milton thoughDec 13 01:16
Ender2070the other 3 socialist parties can force through a policy by voting against himDec 13 01:16
FurnaceBoyEnder2070: watch them failDec 13 01:16
Ender2070they kept him from enacting a law against human trafficers who claim refugee statusDec 13 01:17
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: note that Espionage Act is intended to neutralise 1st Amendment, from links posted earlierDec 13 01:18
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: and it works, see Wolf's historyDec 13 01:18
Ender2070"human trafficers have rights too" says the socialistDec 13 01:19
schestowitzRiight...Dec 13 01:19
Ender2070anyways, i'm gonna go play wow. I'll talk to you guys sometime later.Dec 13 01:21
Ender2070fun timeDec 13 01:21
FurnaceBoyEnder2070: well, they do.Dec 13 01:21
FurnaceBoyEnder2070: so do "terrorists"Dec 13 01:21
FurnaceBoyand "activists"Dec 13 01:21
FurnaceBoyand "protesters"Dec 13 01:21
FurnaceBoyand "dissidents"Dec 13 01:21
FurnaceBoyund so weiter.Dec 13 01:21
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: Ron Paul is not really on the side of the angels. There was a good clarification in a /. comment.Dec 13 01:22
Ender2070oh before I goDec 13 01:22
FurnaceBoyin fact, if we continue that list, we eventually arrive at "you".Dec 13 01:22
Ender2070Ron Paul is gonna straighten out the FEDDec 13 01:22
FurnaceBoyif "human traffickers" don't have rights, then nor do you.Dec 13 01:22
schestowitzEnder2070: no-one canDec 13 01:23
schestowitzHe'll get a bulletDec 13 01:23
Ender2070omg awesome furnace, im gonna quote youDec 13 01:23
FurnaceBoyif "Julian Assange" doesn't have rights, then nor do you.Dec 13 01:23
FurnaceBoyplease do.Dec 13 01:23
schestowitzMaybe they'll accuse old Paul of having a threesome with 2 Swedes... without v1agraDec 13 01:23
FurnaceBoyEnder2070: for someone so against the idea of 'rights', it must have pleased you to see the Canadian Charter so comprehensively ignored at G20.Dec 13 01:23
Ender2070I care about rightsDec 13 01:24
FurnaceBoyEnder2070: I assume you're agitating for its repealDec 13 01:24
Ender2070just not of those who do bad things to peopleDec 13 01:24
Ender2070someone who kidnaps people and sells them doesn't deserve rightsDec 13 01:24
FurnaceBoyEnder2070: certainly Fantino wants the Charter shreddedDec 13 01:24
FurnaceBoyEnder2070: I would appreciate if you put my quote about widely.Dec 13 01:24
FurnaceBoyI mean it 100%Dec 13 01:24
Ender2070im sure it will be retweetedDec 13 01:24
Ender2070i have followersDec 13 01:24
Ender2070just watchDec 13 01:24
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FurnaceBoyschestowitz: the Guardian continues to make excellent use of the cables, without fanfare.Dec 13 02:20
FurnaceBoyhttp://twitter.com/#!/GoogleMcGurgle/status/14122491999948800Dec 13 02:20
TechrightsBot-sc@GoogleMcGurgle: Bertie Ahern "everyone knows the UK was involved" in the murder. #Finucane #Wikileaks http://bit.ly/gWbToRDec 13 02:20
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abeNd-orgperhaps you can use this http://techblog.netflix.com/2010/12/why-we-use-and-contribute-to-open.html to lean on netflix to get them to support a linux client :PDec 13 03:34
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Ender2070netflix is proprietary!Dec 13 03:48
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: noticing a weird thing with php/curl though. look:Dec 13 04:14
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: http://ru.yahoo.comDec 13 04:14
TechrightsBot-scTitle:  .::. Size~: 0.08 KBDec 13 04:14
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: but if you curl it using the CLI utility, no problem.Dec 13 04:14
*FurnaceBoy sighsDec 13 04:14
sebsebsebBad OpenSuseDec 13 07:24
sebsebsebthey seem to be patching it like Ubuntu nowDec 13 07:24
sebsebsebGnome in itDec 13 07:25
sebsebsebewwDec 13 07:25
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/14165284315201536/Dec 13 08:04
TechrightsBot-sc@qu1j0t3: @schestowitz Another political prosecution? http://twitter.com/#!/GreeGreece/status/14164638287527937Dec 13 08:04
TechrightsBot-sc@GreeGreece: David Epstein Incest Charges: Columbia Professor Charged With Sleeping With Daughter  (Incest is a crime in the US?) http://huff.to/hd8dBRDec 13 08:04
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/dorianmuthig/status/14211937554399232Dec 13 08:06
TechrightsBot-sc@dorianmuthig: @schestowitz @0x A non-issue for ordinary business and private users.Dec 13 08:06
schestowitzreplyto://14211937554399232Dec 13 08:06
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/0x/status/14213988229324800Dec 13 08:06
TechrightsBot-sc@0x: @dorianmuthig @schestowitz true.Dec 13 08:06
schestowitzThey say businesses will never be kicked outDec 13 08:07
schestowitzdoesn't washDec 13 08:07
schestowitztest: http://identi.ca/conversation/59707885#notice-60313574Dec 13 08:08
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 9.23 KBDec 13 08:08
schestowitzit doesn't deal with threadsDec 13 08:08
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schestowitzFurnaceBoy: we have a new bug backDec 13 13:15
schestowitzOne with symbol processingDec 13 13:15
schestowitze.g. "Title: Sea of Joy confused of calcutta .::. Size~: 59.63 KB"Dec 13 13:15
schestowitzoops. More like this:Dec 13 13:16
schestowitzhttp://bit.ly/gsFrKJDec 13 13:16
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Sea of Joy  confused of calcutta .::. Size~: 59.63 KBDec 13 13:16
schestowitzI fixed it in my version, but it's not in yoursDec 13 13:16
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schestowitzWhat a rubbish analysis: https://www.trefis.com/company?article=29212Dec 13 15:01
TechrightsBot-scTitle: 3 Downside Scenarios for Microsofts Windows OS -- Trefis .::. Size~: 34.59 KBDec 13 15:01
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: not sure what you meanDec 13 15:46
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: can you clarify?Dec 13 16:06
schestowitzstrikeoutDec 13 16:06
schestowitzon the text, in this clientDec 13 16:06
schestowitzkonversationDec 13 16:07
FurnaceBoystill confused.Dec 13 16:17
FurnaceBoywhat's the cause ?Dec 13 16:17
FurnaceBoyI don't see strikeout here. what in the message is triggering it?Dec 13 16:18
schestowitzhttp://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/12/AR2010121202213.html?nav=rss_business/industriesDec 13 16:34
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Madoff son's suicide followed battle with trustee .::. Size~: 91.01 KBDec 13 16:34
schestowitzFurnaceBoy: it doesn't handle some symbol rightDec 13 16:34
schestowitzWe fixed it last year but I can't remember where the change isDec 13 16:35
schestowitzLet me check...Dec 13 16:35
schestowitz>             $data['title'] = "Error processing the URL: \x02$headers[0]\x02";Dec 13 16:42
schestowitzDid you change it to:Dec 13 16:42
schestowitz<             $data['error'] = "Error processing the URL";Dec 13 16:42
FurnaceBoythat's not related to this problemDec 13 16:42
FurnaceBoyi removed code that strips out \x13Dec 13 16:42
FurnaceBoydo you have a url that reproduces this?Dec 13 16:43
FurnaceBoythat one above?Dec 13 16:43
schestowitzhttp://bit.ly/gsFrKJDec 13 16:44
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Sea of Joy  confused of calcutta .::. Size~: 62.22 KBDec 13 16:44
FurnaceBoyokDec 13 16:44
FurnaceBoyjust a min...Dec 13 16:44
schestowitzbas symbolDec 13 16:44
schestowitztrmanco did a fix for itDec 13 16:45
schestowitz    $data['title'] = str_replace("\x13","",Dec 13 16:45
schestowitzYou removed thisDec 13 16:45
schestowitzI'll put that back in, don't worry about itDec 13 16:45
schestowitzunless you already patch it...Dec 13 16:46
schestowitzFor upstreamDec 13 16:46
FurnaceBoyyes i removed it.Dec 13 16:47
FurnaceBoyit's silly.Dec 13 16:47
FurnaceBoyi'll give you a better fix.Dec 13 16:47
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: does your client properly support unicode?Dec 13 16:49
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: stripping that character is incorrect. it's part of a 2-byte unicode combinationDec 13 16:52
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: the site uses this entity: http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/2013/index.htmDec 13 16:53
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Unicode Character 'EN DASH' (U+2013) .::. Size~: 10.5 KBDec 13 16:53
FurnaceBoyso the objective is to render that properly in unicode, then the client can use it.Dec 13 16:53
schestowitzOh, I seeDec 13 16:55
schestowitzWell, I think charset depends on the applicationDec 13 16:55
FurnaceBoyright, but we can't control client charset.Dec 13 16:55
FurnaceBoyi'm just saying that stripping the character is incorrect.Dec 13 16:55
schestowitzTrueDec 13 16:56
schestowitzFurnaceBoy: nonetheless, that's how it ran for a long timeDec 13 16:56
FurnaceBoyMOST of hte time you are going to get unicode dataDec 13 16:56
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: I don't like bugs.Dec 13 16:56
FurnaceBoythat's a bug.Dec 13 16:56
schestowitzyupDec 13 16:56
FurnaceBoythere are better solutionsDec 13 16:56
schestowitzwith a hackDec 13 16:56
FurnaceBoyno noDec 13 16:56
FurnaceBoythe line of code i removed is a bug.Dec 13 16:56
FurnaceBoyif you think about it, it's easy to show it's the wrong answer.Dec 13 16:56
FurnaceBoyfrom several anglesDec 13 16:57
FurnaceBoy1) it prevents correct unicode from being passed throughDec 13 16:57
schestowitzbut this is a bot used in one set of channels AFAIKDec 13 16:57
FurnaceBoy2) it still lets other encoding problems throughDec 13 16:57
FurnaceBoydoesn't matter, schestowitz , a bug is a bug!Dec 13 16:57
FurnaceBoythere are better solutions here.Dec 13 16:57
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: you only observe this in your client right?Dec 13 16:57
FurnaceBoyKonversationDec 13 16:57
FurnaceBoyis it set up for unicode?Dec 13 16:57
schestowitz"♺ @FFII @Fosspatents admits agenda is not #Foss ☛. Who didn't notice that? // common lobbying tactics... like ACT for 'small business'"Dec 13 16:58
schestowitzFurnaceBoy: yes, I think it is.. let me checkDec 13 16:58
FurnaceBoyok, so your unicode seems fineDec 13 16:58
schestowitzBut xchat too doesn't like itDec 13 16:58
schestowitzIt shows undefined charDec 13 16:58
FurnaceBoyyou see that we get a LOT of unicode through the bot. so breaking it is foolish.Dec 13 16:59
FurnaceBoyright, but how familiar are you with utf-8?Dec 13 16:59
FurnaceBoyonce you understand utf8 you can see that the code was incorrectDec 13 16:59
schestowitzI don't know all the symbols if that's what you askDec 13 16:59
FurnaceBoyno, i mean how utf8 works.Dec 13 16:59
schestowitzI assumed it's just a table of symbolsDec 13 17:00
FurnaceBoyit's a variable length encoding.Dec 13 17:00
FurnaceBoyunicode is a table of symbols, utf8 is a way of encoding them mixed with 7-bit asciiDec 13 17:00
FurnaceBoyin a way that's compact and backward compatible with most text processorsDec 13 17:00
FurnaceBoyit's also the encoding of XML and is gradually supplanting all other encodings on the webDec 13 17:01
FurnaceBoy+ ircDec 13 17:02
FurnaceBoyso in short, it's safe to say that the bot should gracefully handle itDec 13 17:02
FurnaceBoyi'll look into this example a bit further. when i run it here, the entity isn't expandedDec 13 17:03
FurnaceBoybut that may be due to some other changesDec 13 17:03
FurnaceBoyit looks like the whole problem is due to some buggy php that trmanco took from the php web site comments sectionDec 13 17:03
FurnaceBoycalled unhtmlentitiesDec 13 17:03
FurnaceBoyi suspect this wasn't utf-8 compatibleDec 13 17:04
FurnaceBoyhttp://www.columbia.edu/kermit/utf8.htmlDec 13 17:10
TechrightsBot-scTitle: UTF-8 Sampler .::. Size~: 56.13 KBDec 13 17:10
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: all unicode in utf8 is encoded in bytes with high bit set.Dec 13 17:12
schestowitzFurnaceBoy: oh, I see...Dec 13 17:12
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: therefore, the original bot code is wrong,Dec 13 17:12
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: it was producing a 0x13 byte, which is impossibleDec 13 17:12
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: that is not the utf8 representation of the entity &#8211;Dec 13 17:12
FurnaceBoyit's the result of an incorrect transformationDec 13 17:13
FurnaceBoywhat you SHOULD see in your client is the en-dash glyph, as the page author intended.Dec 13 17:13
FurnaceBoywhen the bot's fixed, that's what you'll see.Dec 13 17:13
FurnaceBoyit looks like the old php was naively converting to: 0x20, 0x13   which is why you see the extra space in the title.Dec 13 17:16
FurnaceBoybut in fact, you want Unicode character 0x2013Dec 13 17:16
FurnaceBoywhich has a multiple byte encoding in utf8, with all >= 0x80Dec 13 17:16
FurnaceBoyi.e. can NEVER trigger weird shit in your client with < 0x20 control characters, since they're never generatedDec 13 17:16
schestowitzhttp://thelinuxexperiment.com/guinea-pigs/jon-f/why-i-hate-samba/Dec 13 17:24
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Why I Hate Samba | The Linux Experiment .::. Size~: 47.57 KBDec 13 17:24
schestowitzFurnaceBoy: did you manage to locate tony?Dec 13 17:25
FurnaceBoynoDec 13 17:29
FurnaceBoyi won't have much time to do so, i'm preparing for a tripDec 13 17:29
schestowitzWhereabouts?Dec 13 17:31
FurnaceBoywife's famDec 13 17:35
FurnaceBoynowhere near you, unfortunately :)Dec 13 17:35
schestowitzhttp://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2010/12/11/car-bomb-sweden.htmlDec 13 17:37
TechrightsBot-scTitle: CBC News - World - Blasts rock Swedish capital .::. Size~: 34.31 KBDec 13 17:37
schestowitzhttp://pogson.6k.ca/2010/12/11/sweden/ "Now the news from Sweden is all about getting locked up for weak evidence after partying, hosting the data of the guy they locked up, and suicide bombers. "Dec 13 17:38
TechrightsBot-scTitle:  Sweden at Robert Pogson .::. Size~: 32.11 KBDec 13 17:38
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: right, the timing of that 'bombing' is rather neat, don;t you think?Dec 13 17:41
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: "STAY ON MESSAGE, SWEDES"Dec 13 17:41
schestowitzIt's not thatDec 13 17:42
schestowitzI read somewhere of engagement with police beforehand, so Portland came to mindDec 13 17:42
schestowitzBut frankly, this guy was an idiot and couldn't do it right, which makes it a rookieDec 13 17:43
schestowitzAnd then quite likely a real hater of the artistsDec 13 17:43
schestowitzThe Portland guy was stopped in advance, the underwear dude was notDec 13 17:43
schestowitz"When Mr. Asay announced he was joining Canonical, I feared that he might influence Ubuntu." http://is.gd/iGcemDec 13 17:44
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Matt Asay Leaves Canonical « The-Source.com .::. Size~: 34.16 KBDec 13 17:44
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: remember the recent FBI plotsDec 13 17:45
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: real explosives, iircDec 13 17:46
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: just saying, the timing is very interesting...Dec 13 17:46
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: one to watchDec 13 17:46
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: another one to watch: Epstein 'incest' allegationsDec 13 17:46
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: it was probably only his first suicide bombing, don't blame him for being inexperiencedDec 13 17:57
schestowitzHm...Dec 13 17:57
schestowitzWell, I'l post some daily links, then go through IRC logs and dent a bitDec 13 17:58
schestowitzThanks for improving the PHP program, it's MUCHLY approcatedDec 13 17:58
schestowitz*reciatedDec 13 17:58
FurnaceBoylemme fix that latest thing now...Dec 13 18:00
FurnaceBoyaha, yes.Dec 13 18:01
FurnaceBoythe php5 function doesn't handle unicode entities.Dec 13 18:01
schestowitzFurnaceBoy: I predict I have another year guaranteed to work on the siteDec 13 18:01
schestowitzSo the IRC improvements are going to make a good contrib to itDec 13 18:02
FurnaceBoywe can go further, so keep suggesting improvements.Dec 13 18:02
schestowitzTechrights expanded in scope nowDec 13 18:03
schestowitzLike I wrote in that post this morningDec 13 18:03
schestowitzWe might get less shy of politics cause politics invades s/w a lot nowDec 13 18:03
schestowitzAnd I think I've already ramped up my anti-war selfDec 13 18:04
schestowitzWhich I abstained doing until recently, for obvious reasonsDec 13 18:04
schestowitzRMS is very political since years ago, inc. copyright which is where he campaigns a lot these days on his toursDec 13 18:05
schestowitzFor the bot we probably want to automate more thingsDec 13 18:05
schestowitzI keep finding new ways of collaborating better not just in the site but also outside itDec 13 18:05
schestowitzGroklaw did not do enough in that regard, PJ wanted to set up Wave, but it's kaputDec 13 18:06
schestowitzOne thing we did it built a network of people in twitter/identicaDec 13 18:06
schestowitzIf you drew lines between people we speak to, you'll find many are from IRC and techrights commentsDec 13 18:06
schestowitzPeople befriend their friends' friendsDec 13 18:07
schestowitzI found ways of making recordings of techbytes a lot faster tooDec 13 18:07
schestowitzSo the site has more components than just plain Apache, and I think that's vitalDec 13 18:08
schestowitzSo here's an ideaDec 13 18:08
schestowitzWe not have better tools for integrating IRC with twitter and identicaDec 13 18:08
FurnaceBoyok i think i've fixed that issue.Dec 13 18:08
schestowitzAnd thinking as I go along we also use the site+wiki to organise content and showsDec 13 18:08
schestowitzBut there's room for more integrationDec 13 18:09
FurnaceBoyrms was always political. the gpl is political. whihc is why certain groups dislike it.Dec 13 18:09
FurnaceBoyit's activist.Dec 13 18:09
schestowitzand I don't know where your site isDec 13 18:09
schestowitzYes, but was FSF always so involved in outside issue?Dec 13 18:09
schestowitzRMS sure blogs a lot about politics and I think more so than before although I don't know him long enoughDec 13 18:10
FurnaceBoynot sureDec 13 18:10
FurnaceBoy  @FurnaceBoy | http://bit.ly/gsFrKJDec 13 18:10
FurnaceBoy phIRCe-14578 | Title: Sea of Joy – confused of calcutta .::. Size~: 62.22 KBDec 13 18:10
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Sea of Joy  confused of calcutta .::. Size~: 62.22 KBDec 13 18:10
FurnaceBoy^^ that's what you should seeDec 13 18:10
schestowitzHehDec 13 18:10
schestowitzWeird character thereDec 13 18:10
FurnaceBoyen dashDec 13 18:10
FurnaceBoydisplays correctly on my unicode setupDec 13 18:10
FurnaceBoy(Deja Vu font)Dec 13 18:10
FurnaceBoyi'll send you new codeDec 13 18:10
FurnaceBoysentDec 13 18:14
schestowitz[17:57] <FurnaceBoy> schestowitz: it was probably only his first suicide bombing, don't blame him for being inexperiencedDec 13 18:17
schestowitzHeh.Dec 13 18:17
schestowitzHe had one chance and he blew itDec 13 18:17
FurnaceBoythere was a similar joke about Russian Arctic pilotsDec 13 18:19
FurnaceBoybut i can't remember how it goesDec 13 18:19
FurnaceBoy:|Dec 13 18:19
schestowitzIn Soviet Russia, bomb detonates man?Dec 13 18:31
FurnaceBoynoDec 13 18:35
FurnaceBoyfriend of mine is a polar explorerDec 13 18:35
FurnaceBoyhe went on an expedition to North Pole, skiDec 13 18:35
schestowitzNiceDec 13 18:35
FurnaceBoystarted in Russia, tip of Novaya ZemlayaDec 13 18:35
schestowitzAre you from Australia or just visited?Dec 13 18:35
FurnaceBoyfromDec 13 18:36
FurnaceBoyso is heDec 13 18:36
schestowitzWhy Canada?Dec 13 18:36
FurnaceBoyjobDec 13 18:36
schestowitzWHy not .au?Dec 13 18:36
FurnaceBoyand i ended up liking it. just don't like where it's going.Dec 13 18:36
schestowitzI though the economy there was goodDec 13 18:36
FurnaceBoygot bored there schestowitz after 35 yearsDec 13 18:36
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: AU and CA economies are both resilient -- resources based.Dec 13 18:36
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: little hit from recessionDec 13 18:36
schestowitzYesDec 13 18:36
schestowitzUK is colonies basedDec 13 18:37
schestowitzTo a degreeDec 13 18:37
schestowitzUS and UK all about "IP"Dec 13 18:37
schestowitzNot real resourcesDec 13 18:37
schestowitzEven mining was killed in the UKDec 13 18:37
FurnaceBoythe joke is sort of like 'why are there no bad arctic pilots'Dec 13 18:37
schestowitzManufacturing..Dec 13 18:37
schestowitzFurnaceBoy: Darwin awardDec 13 18:38
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: yeah this is another aspect of right wing stuff: "we want to be knowledge workers, not dirty factory workers"Dec 13 18:38
FurnaceBoyhow's that working out for ya.....Dec 13 18:38
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: yes. all the bad pilots are dead. :)Dec 13 18:38
schestowitzTo be fair, right now I don't do physical work eitherDec 13 18:59
schestowitzMany people here programDec 13 19:00
FurnaceBoyyeah but as a national strategy?Dec 13 19:00
FurnaceBoyoffshoring ALL manufacturing?Dec 13 19:00
FurnaceBoywho do you think suffers?Dec 13 19:01
FurnaceBoyHow about the people now living in growing tent cities across the USDec 13 19:01
FurnaceBoyor the 50 mln americans without food securityDec 13 19:01
schestowitzOK, just published 700k of Sunday's logs... http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/irc-log-techrights-12122010.htmlDec 13 19:01
TechrightsBot-scTitle: IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: December 12th, 2010 .::. Size~: 356.14 KBDec 13 19:01
schestowitzFurnaceBoy: they can do manufacturingDec 13 19:01
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: it's goneDec 13 19:01
schestowitzBut they are too expensive nowDec 13 19:01
schestowitzTHe labour is laid offDec 13 19:02
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: not just that. it's gone.Dec 13 19:02
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: the process of total offshoring started decades ago.Dec 13 19:02
schestowitznot from ErthDec 13 19:02
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: there was a time when Massachusetts for example made clothesDec 13 19:02
schestowitzSemi-attached to machine still a  man's job...Dec 13 19:02
schestowitzBut not in the USDec 13 19:02
schestowitzFurnaceBoy: OK, but...Dec 13 19:02
schestowitzThen they relied on social securityDec 13 19:03
schestowitzaka debt generatorDec 13 19:03
FurnaceBoymilitaryDec 13 19:03
FurnaceBoywarDec 13 19:03
FurnaceBoyUK, Fr, Il, De, US, Ru ... major arms makers ... the G7, G8, whatever... the "first world"Dec 13 19:05
schestowitzOK, all files overwrittenDec 13 19:06
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schestowitzhttp://bit.ly/gsFrKJDec 13 19:07
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schestowitzneatDec 13 19:07
FurnaceBoy:)Dec 13 19:08
schestowitzWe could think of more ways of enhancing cdeDec 13 19:09
schestowitz*codeDec 13 19:10
FurnaceBoyyesDec 13 19:10
schestowitzFor example, the identica bot only echoes replies to people within the syndicated group to reduce s/n ratio (yes, signal on top)Dec 13 19:10
schestowitzSo opposite...Dec 13 19:10
schestowitzincrease it or not decreaseDec 13 19:11
schestowitzbug...Dec 13 19:13
schestowitz!google any termDec 13 19:13
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schestowitzPHP Fatal error:  Call to undefined method phirce::unhtmlentities()Dec 13 19:14
schestowitzWhat pck is it in?Dec 13 19:15
FurnaceBoyhm!Dec 13 19:15
FurnaceBoyoddDec 13 19:15
schestowitz .$this->unhtmlentities(($searchresult->titleNoFormatting))." | $searchresult->url\r\n");Dec 13 19:17
FurnaceBoyyes.Dec 13 19:18
schestowitzdid you add it?Dec 13 19:18
FurnaceBoythis is no longer correct, i'll send an update.Dec 13 19:18
FurnaceBoyno, the code was removed.Dec 13 19:18
FurnaceBoyi'll fixDec 13 19:18
schestowitzokDec 13 19:18
schestowitz@wikileaks2] Wikileaks documentary by SVT | http://goo.gl/WzPtP !wlDec 13 19:19
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: (i just didn't realise it was used in multiple places)Dec 13 19:21
schestowitzHeh. http://www.pwnage.ca/?p=1173Dec 13 19:30
schestowitzhttp://linux.die.net/man/1/strobeDec 13 20:16
schestowitzJulian's toolDec 13 20:16
FurnaceBoyThe nature of his injuries led at least one pathologist to conclude Peach's skull was crushed with an unauthorised weapon, such as a lead-weighted cosh or police radio.Dec 13 20:27
FurnaceBoyIt was already known that when Cass raided lockers at the SPG headquarters he uncovered a stash of unauthorised weapons, including illegal truncheons, knives, two crowbars, a whip, a 3ft wooden stave and a lead-weighted leather stick.Dec 13 20:27
FurnaceBoyOne officer was caught trying to hide a metal cosh, although it was not the weapon that killed Peach. Another officer was found with a collection of Nazi regalia.Dec 13 20:27
schestowitzRevoltingDec 13 20:35
FurnaceBoyTomlinson spurred the re-opening. interesting.Dec 13 20:36
FurnaceBoythey have a lot to hide, like RCMPDec 13 20:36
schestowitzBut in that film about Russia that your mate told me about the Russian cops kept Hilter's liteature, tooDec 13 20:36
FurnaceBoyDziekanskiDec 13 20:36
schestowitzThere's a fine line between police forces, armies, and sometimes tyrant admirersDec 13 20:36
FurnaceBoyseems soDec 13 20:36
FurnaceBoyfriend discovered a police board here in CanadaDec 13 20:36
FurnaceBoyweb siteDec 13 20:37
FurnaceBoyit's like a secret soceityDec 13 20:37
FurnaceBoyiety*Dec 13 20:37
*FurnaceBoy goes to get lunchDec 13 20:37
FurnaceBoybbiabDec 13 20:37
schestowitzokDec 13 20:44
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schestowitz"As part of your application you will need to provide within your CV documentation a 500-word review on Fedora 14. " LOL http://jobsearch.futurenet.com/jobsearch/jobdetails.asp?PageNum=1&PageNav=SearchResults&JobID=1177Dec 13 21:08
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schestowitzFound in "-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @mohanpram: Job posting for staff writer for Linux Format magazine http://ur1.ca/2kn8k"Dec 13 21:08
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schestowitzMukasey: Prosecute Assange because it’s ‘easier’ than prosecuting New York Times http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/12/mukasey-prosecute-assange-easier-times/Dec 13 21:17
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schestowitz!google cash itDec 13 21:23
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schestowitz!google crash itDec 13 21:23
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schestowitz!google crash itDec 13 21:26
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schestowitz!google crash itDec 13 21:29
TechrightsBot-sc[1] - Crash IT | WebSites | PC Sales | Networks | Helpdesk Support | http://www.crashit.com.au/Dec 13 21:29
TechrightsBot-sc[2] - YouTube - CRASH IT!!! - "RaptorRed" (Street Legal Racing: Redline) | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D7qMgDlSvgGsDec 13 21:29
TechrightsBot-sc[3] - Fair Game - Housing Doesn't Need a Crash. It Needs Bold Ideas ... | http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/12/business/12gret.htmlDec 13 21:29
TechrightsBot-sc[4] - Tom Brady Talks Car Crash: "It Was Like The Matrix" - E! Online | http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b200248_tom_brady_talks_car_crash_it_was_like.htmlDec 13 21:29
FurnaceBoylolDec 13 22:18
FurnaceBoytesting only... http://twitter.com/#!/DetentionWatch/status/14445684602179584Dec 13 22:25
TechrightsBot-sc@DetentionWatch: RT @willcoley: Hispanic GOP group decries @KayBaileyHutch for opposing #DREAMAct http://bit.ly/i0KAGw via @dallas_news #ri4a immigrationDec 13 22:25
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FurnaceBoytesting... http://twitter.com/#!/qu1j0t3/status/14338662913282048Dec 13 22:26
TechrightsBot-sc@qu1j0t3: Under-reported: #Wikileaks begins to corroborate #fbi whistleblower Sibel Edmonds http://ur1.ca/2kq3u http://ur1.ca/2kumu #turkey #pakistanDec 13 22:26
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FurnaceBoyhttp://ur1.ca/2kumuDec 13 22:26
TechrightsBot-scTitle:  Report: WikiLeaks Docs to Show US Military Supporting PKK in Turkey’s Civil War -- News from Antiwar.com  .::. Size~: 36.17 KBDec 13 22:26
FurnaceBoyQuadrescence: schestowitz http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1210/Greenwald_quits_CREW_over_WikiLeaks.htmlDec 13 22:29
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FurnaceBoyWeismann, CREW's chief counsel, sharply criticized WikiLeaks on Huffington Post, approvingly quoting a condemnation of the group as "among the enemies of open society because it does not respect the rule of law."Dec 13 22:29
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