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schestowitzxorg-server 21.0.99.1 https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg/2021-July/060726.html #xorg #linux #freesw Jul 06 00:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.freedesktop.org | [ANNOUNCE] xorg-server 21.0.99.1Jul 06 00:08
techrights-newsReality is Warped When You Pay for 'Perception Management' (or: #BillGates Pays #Twitter for Propaganda) http://techrights.org/2021/07/05/bill-gates-pays-twitter/ #gatesfoundation #censorship #socialcontrolmediaJul 06 00:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Reality is Warped When You Pay for ‘Perception Management’ (or: Bill Gates Pays Twitter for Propaganda) | TechrightsJul 06 00:18
techrights-news#GatesFoundation Critique page has just exceeded 800k views. http://techrights.org/wiki/Gates_Foundation_Critique #billgates #taxevasion #corruption #monopolyJul 06 00:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Gates Foundation Critique - TechrightsJul 06 00:20
techrights-newsLOL. Using Office to manage #geminiSpace stuff. https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/006846.htmlJul 06 00:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | [Help] Page not rendering correctlyJul 06 00:22
techrights-news#VzLinux 8.4 is out today https://www.virtuozzo.com/vzlinux.html you can even guess by version number that it's based on #rhel ... #gnu #linux made/built in #SwitzerlandJul 06 00:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.virtuozzo.com | VzLinuxJul 06 00:24
techrights-news"This Google School of Code, I decided to work with Bilal Elmoussaoui as a mentor, the goal being updating some GNOME design tools to GTK 4, specifically Icon Library and App Icon Preview. Both apps are written in Rust and make use of the gtk-rs bindings for gtk." https://deathwish.info/2021/07/03/gsoc/Jul 06 00:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-deathwish.info | GSoC 2021 and GNOME Design tools | DeathwishJul 06 00:25
techrights-news“ #IBM is proud of its #patent portfolio, and the fact that they produce #patents at a rate of 10 a day. With such an extensive arsenal of #swpats , backed by unlimited legal funds – what chances are left for the VC backed company? This is like the US going to war against Micronesia.” —Daniel Cohen http://techrights.org/2021/07/05/ibm-led-mob/Jul 06 00:25
techrights-newsThere are #billGates -sponsored “tweets” (paid-for cruft) added to my timeline today http://techrights.org/2021/07/05/bill-gates-pays-twitter/ #gatesfoundation #twitter #bribery #censorshipJul 06 00:26
techrights-newsWhen you can use your money to ban @zoobab and others for pointing out facts about #gatesfoundation and #billGates in #twitter http://techrights.org/2021/07/05/bill-gates-pays-twitter/ #censorshipJul 06 00:27
techrights-news#taxevasion #billgates #scam #bribery #censorship (yes, he bribes the media also to remove negative articles about him, not just to produce puff pieces and attack his 'enemies') http://techrights.org/wiki/Gates_Foundation_CritiqueJul 06 00:28
techrights-news150 more posts in #techrights and we're up to 31,000 total. Another little milestone ahead of our 15th anniversary in November. #gnu #linux #freeswJul 06 00:30
techrights-newsWhen you release a #kernel and they present or frame you in terms of your rival http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152752#comment-30150 #linux #appleJul 06 00:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 5.13 | Tux MachinesJul 06 00:32
techrights-newsTechs: science. Marketing/sales people: lies. Company: a combination of scientists and liars, optimised to produce something of value and then lie to clients about it, in order to pay the scientists' salaries. Reality: the execs still all the money/surplus.Jul 06 00:35
techrights-news#Audacity open source audio editor has become spyware http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153021#comment-30151Jul 06 00:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Audacity is now a Possible Spyware, Remove it ASAP | Tux MachinesJul 06 00:37
techrights-newsSame #google that had put back doors inside the #linux #kernel before massive backlash compelled the kernel team to remove that crap https://www.bankinfosecurity.com/google-finds-new-exploit-that-alters-chip-memory-a-16808Jul 06 00:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bankinfosecurity.com | Google Finds New Exploit That Alters Chip MemoryJul 06 00:40
techrights-news#china loves #gentoo :-) http://www.ecns.cn/video/2021-06-09/detail-ihamzrnf8951899.shtml no, not #gnu #linux ... their country has its own distros.Jul 06 00:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ecns.cn | Cute Gentoo penguins join Nanjing Underwater WorldJul 06 00:41
techrights-newsRacist corporations try to paint themselves as the opposite of what they are https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/17/business/juneteenth-2021-company-celebrations/index.htmlJul 06 00:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Juneteenth 2021: How major companies are celebrating - CNNJul 06 00:41
techrights-news#vista11 = distraction, spam, vapourware, lipstick on a pig. #microsoft could use a distraction from ALL SORTS OF THINGS ~15 days ago. The fake 'leaks' (for hype) were well timed, and not by accident. Throwing bad news under a bus.Jul 06 00:43
techrights-news#MirceaPopescu dead. https://u.today/bitcoin-btc-billionaire-mircea-popescu-reportedly-found-dead here he is in #techrights ("mp_en_viaje"): http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/irc-log-techrights-29042019.html#tApr%2030%2011:19:43Jul 06 00:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-u.today | Bitcoin (BTC) Billionaire Mircea Popescu Reportedly Found DeadJul 06 00:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: April 29th, 2019 – May 5th, 2019Jul 06 00:45
techrights-news"Welcome to the #Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter, Issue 690 for the week of June 27 – July 3, 2021. The full version of this issue is available here." https://ubuntu-news.org/2021/07/05/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-690/ #gnu #linuxJul 06 00:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ubuntu-news.org | Ubuntu Fridge | Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter Issue 690Jul 06 00:50
techrights-newsThe #microsoft #vista11 spam distracted many people from actual news like the ongoing collapse of #gatesfoundation and expose about Microsoft ducking accountability while corrupting politicians. http://techrights.org/2021/06/29/microsoft-behind-big-tech-narrative/Jul 06 00:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft is a Lot Worse Than Google, Amazon, Facebook, and Apple | TechrightsJul 06 00:52
techrights-newsToday in #Techrights • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153069 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJul 06 00:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesJul 06 00:52
techrights-news#microsoft #propaganda sites describe #copyleft like this https://mspoweruser.com/github-copilot-receives-criticism-from-copyright-enthusiasts/ #deletegithubJul 06 00:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub Copilot receives criticism from copyright enthusiasts - MSPoweruserJul 06 00:55
techrights-newsComplaining about #github while refusing to #deletegithub is like saying eating animals is wrong but ordering burgers. Or, to use the example of criminal #billgates , telling people to buy his patented burgers while he's eating beef (cows).Jul 06 00:57
techrights-news#FOSS4G 2022 to be held in #Italy https://www.spatialsource.com.au/latest-news/foss4g-2022-to-be-held-in-italy #freeswJul 06 00:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.spatialsource.com.au | FOSS4G 2022 to be held in Italy - Spatial SourceJul 06 00:57
techrights-newsUsing #FreeDOS as an adventure https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2021/07/dos-boot-ars-spends-a-day-working-in-freedos/ Ars lacks writers and material, so it is RERUNNING stories now. It never recovered from the arrest of #MicrosoftPeter (its senior staff) for rape of children.Jul 06 00:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Old school: I work in DOS for an entire day | Ars TechnicaJul 06 00:59
techrights-news#HowTo Install and Use #GIMP on #Ubuntu ⚓ https://www.makeuseof.com/install-and-use-gimp-ubuntu/ ䷉ #makeuseof | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/07/06/#latestJul 06 01:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.makeuseof.com | How to Install and Use GIMP on UbuntuJul 06 01:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media PostsJul 06 01:00
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techrights-newsReview of #Proxmox Virtual Environment 6.4 https://www.heise.de/tests/Virtualisierung-Proxmox-Virtual-Environment-6-4-im-Kurztest-6117620.html Englush: https://marketresearchtelecast.com/virtualization-proxmox-virtual-environment-6-4-in-a-short-test/94096/Jul 06 01:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-marketresearchtelecast.com | Virtualization: Proxmox Virtual Environment 6.4 in a short test - Market Research TelecastJul 06 01:01
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kingoffrancePhanes/fn:  http://dict.org/bin/Dict?Form=Dict2&Database=*&Query=ichor  its a known concept re: https://phanes.silogroup.org/the-gods-can-bleed/    see the poem at the bottom lolJul 06 02:29
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kingoffrancenew relic used to do some rails stuff, i dont follow them or know what they do nowJul 06 02:30
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LibrarianThis is pretty cool; there's now a working fork of Audacity for those who dislike phone-home telemetry: https://github.com/temporary-audacity/audacityJul 06 03:13
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activelowa thought crossed my mind, concerning GPL2 infringements and exactly who could take legal action and whose freedoms are protected thenJul 06 04:08
activelowif an authore published software with GPL applied which then was infringed by someone the author can take legal action, such as to enforce compensation for re-licensingJul 06 04:09
activelowquestion is if any other user of that software who is *not* the author could enforce GPL copyleft thenJul 06 04:10
activelowi think, not sure, any such user who is not the author can benefit from what was published with GPL, yet only authors can effectively enforce copyleft or compensation in case of an infringementJul 06 04:33
activelowhttp://techrights.org/2021/06/02/gcc-copyright-assignment/Jul 06 04:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | It Remains Largely Unclear Whose Idea It Was to Change GCC Copyright Assignment Practices (or How/Why It Started) | TechrightsJul 06 04:33
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activelow^ so, when fsf insisted copyright was transferred with GCC contributions only fsf could enforce copyleft or compensation against whoever might infringed GPLJul 06 04:34
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activelowwhich could be even more problematic than several different entities retaining their copyright when contributing to GCC, since then multiple business entities had to be bribed to tolerate GPL infringement, instead of fsf onlyJul 06 04:38
activelowanyway, from a technical perspective, the fsf did not prevent harm to GCC with big vendors bloating it for their interests, which has severe practical consequences already:Jul 06 04:59
activelow- type of vendor lock-in by c++Jul 06 04:59
Ariadnei think ending copyright assignment is good, actually.Jul 06 04:59
AriadneGCC will be forced to remain under GPL, this way.Jul 06 05:00
activelow- lock-in to gcc itself, it isn't easily replaced by PCC for example anymore, and PCC had not received the attention it deserved by "big foss" corporationsJul 06 05:00
AriadneIBM or Microsoft or whoever, cannot take over the FSF board and draft a new GPLv4 and fuck us overJul 06 05:00
activelowi think GCC is fucked alreadyJul 06 05:00
activelowfor technical reasonsJul 06 05:00
Ariadnefrom a technical perspective i agreeJul 06 05:01
AriadneGCC releases have gotten worse and worse in terms of QAJul 06 05:01
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Ariadnealpine has to fix a lot of fuckups in gccJul 06 05:01
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kingoffrancewell i guess the interesting thing is i think there are other people who agree with this -- just they say thats "fsf quality code" or "open source" at work etc. instead of "big vendors".  im not defending that, just how some ppl spin itJul 06 05:08
kingoffrancefsf will take blame anyhowJul 06 05:09
kingoffrancei saw lots of "open source" comments like this on freenode, which didnt distinguish free software of course, but made me wonder why they were there etc.Jul 06 05:10
kingoffranceis clang any easier to "bootstrap" ?Jul 06 05:11
Ariadneclang is a messJul 06 05:11
drazak/fnit's not as if products from big vendors don't suckJul 06 05:11
kingoffrancesome of the ppl i have seen who do care are those who want "seedability"Jul 06 05:12
kingoffrancei.e. to keep distro buildable with few external dependencies, at least to get the ball rollingJul 06 05:12
Ariadnegcc in three-pass compile mode proves that gcc is reproducibleJul 06 05:12
Ariadnei have to give RMS credit there, his insistence on three-pass mode being default was ahead of its timeJul 06 05:13
kingoffranceyes, i should distinguish "small dependencies" from "reproducability" maybeJul 06 05:13
activelowi would trace the root cause of evil back to c++ -> Big Telco (Stroustrup, Bell Labs AT&T ...)Jul 06 05:13
Ariadnebut, gcc is really buggy these daysJul 06 05:13
activelowand some code paths do remain for non-c++ system deployments (GNU, gnome, vala)Jul 06 05:14
Ariadnei do not look forward to gcc 11 upgrade at allJul 06 05:14
activelowi am planning to drop cxx entirely, and dig into PCC for example, not sure yet. could be this is beyond my abilities and competenceJul 06 05:15
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activelowtechnical problems are: lack of backported aarch64 support to pcc for example; widget toolkits depending on cxx (qt in particular); linux kernel dependencies against gcc extensions (not sure how severe these are)Jul 06 05:17
kingoffrancei dunno, i dont keep up with these tings. i remember talk of pcc a long time ago for bsds, now it looks like all have clang (fbsd 10, net 6 in base but not built by default, open switched for i386 and x86_64 in 2017)Jul 06 05:18
activelowi do have a toolchain created with gentoo crossev already, and a bootable system which has removed c++ entirely and contains all required gentoo toolingJul 06 05:18
activelowllvm/clang isn't a viable alternative either imo: c++Jul 06 05:18
kingoffranceyeah, thats what i thought Jul 06 05:18
activelowthen, gentoo tooling (which is crucial imo), too vendor locked-in gcc itself; wouldn't want to miss crossdevJul 06 05:20
activelowhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_Labs#Notable_alumniJul 06 05:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Bell Labs - WikipediaJul 06 05:23
activelowhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bjarne_Stroustrup#CareerJul 06 05:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Bjarne Stroustrup - WikipediaJul 06 05:24
drazak/fnI mean there's no unix or C without bell labsJul 06 05:24
drazak/fnso probably not the best thing to call "the root of all evil"Jul 06 05:24
activelowthere's no Unix anymore because of themJul 06 05:24
drazak/fnhold upJul 06 05:25
drazak/fnAIX is still aroundJul 06 05:25
activelowbtw. i did study at Deutsche Telekom University, with a broader schedule to follow alongJul 06 05:25
drazak/fnin production environmentsJul 06 05:26
activelowit is even worse, if the situation around hardware development, circuit design and electronics was recognisedJul 06 05:26
activelowadd to this the clusterfuck surrounding telco protocolsJul 06 05:27
schestowitzopenwashingJul 06 05:46
schestowitzand patent thicketsJul 06 05:46
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schestowitzregarding GCC, I'm no expert, just an occasional user, but it seems rather inelegant when compilers get so big because hardware 'extensions' need some code thrown at the compilerJul 06 06:04
schestowitzmakes it very hard to maintainJul 06 06:04
gustafwell the obvious way around that is to target a VMJul 06 06:05
gustafor interpreterJul 06 06:06
gustaffrom what I've recently learned that's what Pascal did Jul 06 06:06
gustafisn't LLVM a bit more modular? Jul 06 06:06
schestowitzI don't knowJul 06 06:11
schestowitzdid you check the code?Jul 06 06:11
gustafnot a C programmer mysefl Jul 06 06:13
gustafI just follow people who are Jul 06 06:13
gustafin the end it comes down to person-hoursJul 06 06:14
gustafpeople to code, to sit on comittees, to write proposals etc etcJul 06 06:14
gustaffree/open source is at a huge disadvantage there Jul 06 06:14
gustafbecause corps have ample resources to fund that sort of bureucracy Jul 06 06:15
gustafso there's a certain amount of red queens race just keeping up with new standardsJul 06 06:16
kingoffrance"well the obvious way around that is to target a VM" sure but doesnt this just move complexity to a new place?Jul 06 06:33
kingoffrancemay still be worth it, but im not sure "size" doesnt just get shiftedJul 06 06:34
schestowitzdoesn't java do that?Jul 06 06:34
activelowkingoffrance: "VM" isn't specific. it is either JIT compilation or AOT, in principle.Jul 06 06:35
activelowsome language constructs (java reflection mechanism, dynamic typing), i think, imply some JIT compilation - no expert with thisJul 06 06:42
activelowsome other language constructs (exceptions, garbage collection) require some type of macro expansion and code generationJul 06 06:44
activelowi think Vala (gnome project) is/was one of the most interesting languages, because it utilises C language as intermediate and AOT compiles, and offeres a rich set of featuresJul 06 06:45
lockeanarchistAriadne: Is GCC doomed for you?Jul 06 06:46
schestowitzit's too easy to get all pessimisticJul 06 06:46
schestowitzthe media isn't helping, it contributes to fear that omits similar issues in proprietary software/compilersJul 06 06:47
schestowitzdefeatism is an enemyJul 06 06:47
schestowitzmorale gamesJul 06 06:47
lockeanarchistI don't know if this decision was made by GCC devs because they were against RMS' decision or somethingJul 06 06:47
schestowitz500 out of 500 of the world's most important machines run a system compiled with GCCJul 06 06:47
lockeanarchistBut stripping the GCC's CLA obligation was goodJul 06 06:48
activelowi consider gcc dead endJul 06 06:49
activelowsince version 4.7 iircJul 06 06:50
lockeanarchistBecause of GCC's adoption of C++ code?Jul 06 06:51
activelowseveral reasonsJul 06 06:51
activelowincluding c++ Jul 06 06:52
activelowcannot catch up with "big foss" anymore anyway, nor big telco, nor am i willing toJul 06 06:56
lockeanarchistTruth is: LLVM took all corporate support from GCCJul 06 06:56
lockeanarchistFLOSS is totally dependent on corporations nowJul 06 06:56
lockeanarchistthat's the sad realityJul 06 06:56
activelowyear 2000 already Deutsche Telekom couldn't arrange for a sane university schedule anymore alreadyJul 06 06:58
lockeanarchistNot a surprise MIT/Apache is so popular now.  GPL is like a sentence that any big company won't touch your code. I see many projects that are pretty ahead of the competition in their space and nobody paid by these companies would touch its code.Jul 06 07:01
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activelowi mean, even professors complained several times the schedule wouldn't allow to lecture the basics to students anymoreJul 06 07:02
activelow^ and THIS is the real issueJul 06 07:04
activelowoperating systems are only a minor part of the lecture btw., and A. Tanenbaum had reasons to object to LinuxJul 06 07:07
activelowminix recently too switched compiler, to clang iirc, and netbsd tree -> dead endJul 06 07:07
activelowand this is where gnu and fsf belong, into universities, instead of some big corporations and their short sighted interests to generate cash flow for their shareholdersJul 06 07:08
activelowthe reason gnu and fsf will fail with their gcc is this: it may not be appropriate for university lecture anymore, correct me if i am in error with this judgementJul 06 07:09
kingoffrance" instead of some big corporations and their short sighted interests to generate cash flow for their shareholders"  is that not related to "the schedule wouldn't allow to lecture the basics to students anymore"Jul 06 07:10
kingoffrancearen't these the same issue?Jul 06 07:10
activelowi mean, the entire technological progress and blather about "big tech", innovation, hey hi, is futile, useless, if all this cannot be lectured reasonably to students anymoreJul 06 07:11
kingoffrancewell i think that is intentional -- its not considered important that most people know the details etc.Jul 06 07:13
activelowthe horror is even worse in the realm of telco engineering, of which the typical foss is only a minor fraction of the concerns involvedJul 06 07:13
leahschestowitz: i'm sorry sorry, i'll have savegnu online asapJul 06 07:13
leahi've been tying up loose ends. there are certain things i needed to take care of first. i've had to get some affairs in order. i expect this campaign to end up being hugeJul 06 07:14
leahif it works the way i hope, it'll end up taking up all my timeJul 06 07:14
leah...my mentality is: someone has to do itJul 06 07:14
activelowit is no coincidence gnu and fsf hadn't realized the severity around Xilinx and hardware development (100% proprietary to my knowledge), since they lost their connection with Universities and relevant lectures there entirelyJul 06 07:15
lockeanarchistone that did many travels and spread the word was.. RMSJul 06 07:16
leahthing is, the essence of my ideas are simple, so i'm actually not worried. what matters is how i put them across, more than details. my idea is simple. we discussed it here the other dayJul 06 07:17
lockeanarchistI like RMS but I think the FSF/GNU image became too centralized on RMS. Now people canceled RMSJul 06 07:18
leahthe details are whatever happens if the idea is attempted. that's something that will evolve. such is the nature of... software development. otherwise the concept of paying devs and encouraging way more donations to come in as a result, well that's not hard to wrap your head around. then fsf can start directing real resources towards tackling real problems, all under copyleft,Jul 06 07:19
leahcombatting the current trends of permissive licensing... there are many unexpected things that will happen that i can't predict. all i can say is: if implemented correctly and successful, i think lots of people will be happier with more/better free softwareJul 06 07:19
leahinstead of going to work for google, and probably making the world worse, you go work for fsf, and make free software better for everyoneJul 06 07:20
lockeanarchistYeah, I agreeJul 06 07:20
leahfsf took in 3million during 2019 and had half a million surplusJul 06 07:21
lockeanarchistI think that FSF needs to catch this opportunity and recruit devsJul 06 07:21
lockeanarchistfree-rms was sucessfulJul 06 07:21
leahif people see that fsf is doing actual software development, i reckon we can get that up to 6millionJul 06 07:21
leahthat's an extra 3mil. that pays 30 full-time devs 100k salaries. well, 25Jul 06 07:22
leahthat's doableJul 06 07:22
leahbut most projects don't require full time workJul 06 07:22
leahthese people will be put to the paces, working on multiple projects. or you will have lots of part time devsJul 06 07:22
leahi see this being successful. and if it is, in 5 years from now... good things will have happenedJul 06 07:23
leahwell i want to convince the fsf of this, and for them to put me in charge of getting it up and running... or someone else who agrees with my ideasJul 06 07:24
leahi need to show that this idea can be popular though. hence the siteJul 06 07:24
lockeanarchistrms support letter had many support from china and russia, imagine what fsf could do to advance free software in china. I don't agree with chinese government, but we see that many chinese like the free software philosophyJul 06 07:24
activelowfree software is one aspect, of: freedom of scienceJul 06 07:26
leahlockeanarchist: and yes free-rms is a perfect example of how successful such an organised movement can beJul 06 07:26
lockeanarchistif you look now in github, chinese devs are much more likely to license their code in GPLJul 06 07:27
leahi mean imo fsf/gnu is dead in 5-10 years unless bold actions are taken now, and the work is put in now, to bring things in orderJul 06 07:27
leahbecause otherwise i think if fsf doesn't take control, all these projects will continue to splinter and move awayJul 06 07:28
leahgnu.org must remain intact. that's the goal hereJul 06 07:28
lockeanarchistleah: that gnu assembly something is still going onJul 06 07:28
lockeanarchist?Jul 06 07:28
leahyes, absolutelyJul 06 07:28
lockeanarchist;(Jul 06 07:28
leahright now it's an agreement called the "social contract" and sort of an informal arrangement, but powerful moves have already taken placeJul 06 07:29
lockeanarchistMozilla Firefox is the perfect example of what happens when you cave in to big techJul 06 07:29
leahe.g. gcc devs removing rms and no longer requiring fsf copyright assignement for code contributionsJul 06 07:29
lockeanarchistgnu assembly, something, is doing the same moveJul 06 07:29
schestowitzit's partly IBM-bedJul 06 07:29
lockeanarchistthe mozilla suicide moveJul 06 07:30
schestowitzit was hardly an issue before Red Hat was boughtJul 06 07:30
schestowitzmozilla had issues because its main sponsor made chrome in 2008Jul 06 07:30
leahschestowitz: yeah and now firefox spams me with offers of a vpn service from mozilla. fuck thatJul 06 07:30
schestowitzand then firefox was no longer the darling of the surveillance companyJul 06 07:30
schestowitzMozilla stretched too farJul 06 07:31
lockeanarchistGoogle steamrolled MozillaJul 06 07:31
schestowitzoverpaying the CEOJul 06 07:31
schestowitzand doing useless projects for Google and othersJul 06 07:32
schestowitzlike RustJul 06 07:32
lockeanarchistI don't think Michel is worriedJul 06 07:32
lockeanarchistshe's is just getting her paychecksJul 06 07:32
lockeanarchistsaying bs thinking mozilla is EFFJul 06 07:32
schestowitzwaitJul 06 07:32
schestowitzeven EFF should not do thisJul 06 07:32
schestowitzEFF was not always a political partyJul 06 07:33
schestowitzboth have been taken overJul 06 07:33
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2021/04/16/eff-rogue/Jul 06 07:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EFF Attacks Software Freedom and Promotes Fake Privacy Linked to Microsoft | TechrightsJul 06 07:33
schestowitzthey're being used for their nameJul 06 07:33
schestowitzand past credibility Jul 06 07:33
lockeanarchistMozilla should be just a developer of Firefox and free alternatives for big tech technologyJul 06 07:33
schestowitzJust as LF uses "Linux"Jul 06 07:33
schestowitzand drains the brand out of lifeJul 06 07:33
schestowitzto the point I feel dirty saying "Linux"Jul 06 07:33
schestowitzit no longer means muchJul 06 07:34
schestowitz"Freenode is FOSS"Jul 06 07:34
schestowitz"Mozilla is FOSS"Jul 06 07:34
lockeanarchistIf Linus doesn't do anythingJul 06 07:34
lockeanarchistthey will be steamrolledJul 06 07:34
schestowitz(With DRM)Jul 06 07:34
lockeanarchistlike Firefox is beingJul 06 07:34
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2021/06/23/linux-foundation-and-linux-brand/Jul 06 07:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Time for Linus Torvalds to Enforce and Protect His Brand From Misuse by His Employer, the So-called ‘Linux’ Foundation | TechrightsJul 06 07:35
schestowitzLinux as a brand lost its lustre among many geeksJul 06 07:35
lockeanarchist^this last line doesn't sounds right, sorry I'm not an english nativeJul 06 07:35
schestowitzGNU means RMS to manyJul 06 07:35
schestowitzFSF means GNUJul 06 07:36
schestowitzIBM/Red Hat would like to hijack the GNU acronymJul 06 07:36
leahfsf is there as an organisation that exists to assist the development of free software in as many ways as possibleJul 06 07:36
schestowitzthen strip it off its community rootsJul 06 07:36
schestowitzlike it did with LinuxJul 06 07:36
lockeanarchistI think FSF of all orgsJul 06 07:36
schestowitzLinux not means "contract tracing" and "vaccine passport" or whatever...Jul 06 07:37
schestowitz*nowJul 06 07:37
lockeanarchistis the most well rounded rnJul 06 07:37
lockeanarchist*it'sJul 06 07:37
gustafkingoffrance: this is what I was talking about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal_(programming_language)#The_Pascal-P_systemJul 06 07:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Pascal (programming language) - WikipediaJul 06 07:37
schestowitzLet's make FSF Foundation and then FSF Foundation FoundationJul 06 07:37
schestowitzand the FSF Foundation Foundation will license the FSF seal of approval to  "contract tracing" and "vaccine passport"Jul 06 07:38
schestowitzto profit for a few months :DJul 06 07:38
lockeanarchistyeah, they create these foundations in the name of "funding the development"Jul 06 07:39
lockeanarchistbut we all know that is never about thisJul 06 07:39
lockeanarchistthey make everything but pay full-time developersJul 06 07:40
lockeanarchistpretty sadJul 06 07:40
activelowleah: developers are educated BEFORE they can be hired, to begin withJul 06 07:40
schestowitzno, ask GoogleJul 06 07:42
schestowitzThey have Gulag Summer of WOrkJul 06 07:42
activelowA. Tanenbaum was a University person iirc, and Linux departed; this is when it went wrong, with fsf and gnu and telco and the industry, to serve commercial interests and shareholders instead of science and universitiesJul 06 07:42
schestowitzthey pay for people to be trainedJul 06 07:42
activelowa university should be independent from payments, since big corporations funding universities implies a conflict of interestJul 06 07:43
schestowitzthat happens alreadyJul 06 07:43
schestowitzand has happned for agesJul 06 07:43
schestowitzeven in EuropeJul 06 07:44
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schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2007/12/27/microsoft-europe-influence/Jul 06 07:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | How Microsoft ‘Bought’ Nicolas Sarkozy, France, and Parts of Europe | TechrightsJul 06 07:45
schestowitz"Our anonymous contributor believes that this is very similar to how things work in the United States (which Sarkozy professes to admire though he doesn’t speak good English). Sarkozy apparently already receives some small ‘rewards’ from a Microsoft executive. "Jul 06 07:45
activelowit was the same with "big telco" and privatisation there, what was formerly associated with univerisities got hijacked by commerce and shareholder interestsJul 06 07:45
schestowitz"It is also worth noting that the “Microsoft Research INRIA Joint Centre” opened at the beginning of 2007 (INRIA being France’s national computational research organisation.) It’s understood that this followed an infusion of Microsoft money, but the process of opening this organisation began in 2006 before Sarkozy was elected as president. I’ve personally known people from INRIA since 2004 (my research peers or colleagues in the field of Jul 06 07:45
schestowitzmachine vision)."Jul 06 07:45
activelowEU "openwashes" this as "competition" and blahJul 06 07:45
schestowitzopenwashes?Jul 06 07:46
schestowitzit means something elseJul 06 07:46
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schestowitzmaybe whitewashesJul 06 07:46
schestowitza term that IBM would deem offensiveJul 06 07:46
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schestowitzlook what they did to whitehurstJul 06 07:47
activelowmislabels, in any case EU was lobbied to serve the interests of commerce and shareholders *only*, instead of free science and universitiesJul 06 07:47
schestowitz "We all know the real reason Jim Whitehurst left was because he had "white" in his name and the SJWs over in Austin (JT) petitioned to remove him from the company to improve our "inclusive" culture." 'Stole' my joke? https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bDVckyc#repliesJul 06 07:47
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schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2007/12/27/microsoft-europe-influence/Jul 06 07:48
schestowitz"There were rumours that Nicolas Sarkozy, who recently became President of France, received support from Microsoft, which makes sense given his liberal market policies. Microsoft received some payback when his government recently passed a new law on the “autonomy of the universities”. One of the items of this law, which was protested through a strike of many students and professors, is that universities can now set up foundations by which they Jul 06 07:48
schestowitzcan receive funding from private sources."Jul 06 07:48
activelowwhat an irony, taxes evaded by those were intended to fund universitiesJul 06 07:50
lockeanarchistIf you are funding something, you want to benefit somehow. If MS is funding Unis, they want that these unis use their software and the staff advocate for their software tooJul 06 07:53
lockeanarchistThis happens in private colleges in my countryJul 06 07:53
lockeanarchistMS gives everything for "free"Jul 06 07:53
lockeanarchistgratis, like rms likesJul 06 07:54
gustafMS lost an entire generation of programmers by restricting access to their software Jul 06 07:54
lockeanarchistyeahJul 06 07:54
lockeanarchistit's pretty ironicJul 06 07:54
activelowLinux and GCC lost too: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanenbaum%E2%80%93Torvalds_debate#The_Samizdat_incidentJul 06 07:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Tanenbaum–Torvalds debate - WikipediaJul 06 07:55
lockeanarchistthey spent millions making sure colleges adopted their softwareJul 06 07:55
lockeanarchistand in the end, people just didn't like their techJul 06 07:55
gustaftbf, the world moved away from the bread and butter of MS tech: client-serverJul 06 07:56
gustaftowards internet Jul 06 07:56
gustafand MS lost a decade trying to dominate instead of cooperate Jul 06 07:56
lockeanarchistgustaf: in .NET gen they were already pushing hard professors and colleges to teach .netJul 06 07:56
lockeanarchistC#Jul 06 07:56
lockeanarchist.net is far from being ubiquitousJul 06 07:56
gustafC# / Java Jul 06 07:56
gustafnot much differenceJul 06 07:57
lockeanarchistnet is just a copy of java tbhJul 06 07:57
gustafand Java was the lang of choice when I left KTH in Sweden in ~1997Jul 06 07:57
activelowinstead of paying taxes, for universities to decide for themselves, yes. Vala was ETH Zurich.Jul 06 07:57
gustafI was a bit shocked when MS got the contract to handle all of KTH's mail Jul 06 07:58
gustafbut apparently it's worked out wellJul 06 07:58
gustafemail is a commodity Jul 06 07:58
gustafit's not cost-effective to have staff handle it Jul 06 07:58
lockeanarchistgustaf: they pushed hard for .net in the 2000s. I was pretty easy to be in a .net class in my country for example. MS paid everythingJul 06 07:58
lockeanarchistI almost got a .net classesJul 06 07:59
lockeanarchisthahaJul 06 07:59
gustafyeah but .Net only gets you so far ... Jul 06 07:59
gustafJAva was at least cross-platform Jul 06 07:59
lockeanarchistJava was really popular, at least it was genuineJul 06 08:00
gustaf.net is nice enough, PowerShell shows how CLI can be enhanced with a real object systemJul 06 08:00
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activelow.net still gives me headache, since i did study java, later then i chose to do a c#/.net training since i didn't know what ms was doing to judge for myself, so i reviewed this receiving some certificate, and since then i am mistaken as a ms affiliateJul 06 08:02
activelowwhat a shameJul 06 08:02
lockeanarchistnever understood powershellJul 06 08:02
lockeanarchisttbh never used Windows in my PC since... 2012?Jul 06 08:02
lockeanarchist2012 i had dual boot but I already never usedJul 06 08:03
lockeanarchistso I erased windows for goodJul 06 08:03
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lockeanarchistactivelow: I still remember MS MVPsJul 06 08:05
lockeanarchisthahahaJul 06 08:05
bradchaus2005 was when I had had enuff of what was called an operating system ... went to opensolaris then linux in about 2010Jul 06 08:18
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activelowin 2005 i've had enough what was called a University by them, and ragequit with Deutsche Telekom.Jul 06 08:28
activelow15 years later their last remaining "University" closed, to my knowledge.Jul 06 08:38
activelowdidn't receive any update since then, how they would proceed with their PHd programme to educate the next generation of telco engineers now.Jul 06 08:39
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techrights-news#Texas has turned courts into corporations; as a result, #patent #law has turned into a joke there and it's all about getting "business" https://www.reuters.com/legal/transactional/texas-busiest-patent-judge-shows-no-signs-slowing-down-2021-06-28/Jul 06 09:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Texas' busiest patent judge shows no signs of slowing down | ReutersJul 06 09:03
techrights-news#china just grants millions of low-quality #patents to game the system https://www.bioworld.com/articles/508940-chinas-patent-law-now-permits-adjustments-extensions-of-patent-terms?v=preview #wipo #cnJul 06 09:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-China’s patent law now permits adjustments, extensions of patent terms | 2021-07-02 | BioWorldJul 06 09:03
techrights-news"In a world where #patents play an increasingly important role in the technology development and innovation landscape [this is a loaded and mostly false statement], it is critical that reliable information about the status and history of #patent be made available to the public." https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3868513Jul 06 09:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-papers.ssrn.com | Shepardizing Patents by Jorge L. Contreras :: SSRNJul 06 09:03
techrights-news#Google #Android Leftovers • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153078 #Linux #TuxMachinesJul 06 09:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesJul 06 09:04
techrights-news𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 #IRC Proceedings: Monday, July 05, 2021 • тє¢няιﻭнтѕ ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/07/06/irc-log-050721/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/07/06/irc-log-050721/Jul 06 09:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Monday, July 05, 2021 | TechrightsJul 06 09:05
techrights-newsLinks 6/7/2021: #XOrg Server 21.1 Development Snapshot, #Audacity Backlash Grows • тє¢няιﻭнтѕ ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/07/06/audacity-backlash-grows/ ䷉ #Techrights #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/07/06/audacity-backlash-grows/Jul 06 09:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 6/7/2021: X.Org Server 21.1 Development Snapshot, Audacity Backlash Grows | TechrightsJul 06 09:06
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*psydruid used Windows and GNU/Linux since 1997 and dumped Windows 2000 just after SP4 was released in 2002Jul 06 09:11
gustafI use Windows at work Jul 06 09:15
gustafMacOS at home Jul 06 09:16
gustafand Linux on some servers Jul 06 09:16
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techrights-newsThis just means #Microsoft admits that #Windows sucks, it doesn't mean it "loves Linux" as Microsoft propaganda sites like to claim https://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-suspends-sql-server-on-windows-containers-beta-recommends-linux-instead/Jul 06 09:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.neowin.net | Microsoft suspends SQL Server on Windows Containers Beta, recommends Linux instead - NeowinJul 06 09:50
techrights-news#SoftwarePatents #swpats https://appleinsider.com/articles/21/07/01/apple-seeks-to-halt-latest-voip-pal-patent-infringement-litigation see http://techrights.org/2015/07/27/patents-roundup-2015/ http://techrights.org/2018/08/28/uspto-and-swpats-on-cryptocurrencies/ and http://techrights.org/2019/05/18/american-patent-system-corrupt/ about #VoIPPalJul 06 09:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apple seeks to halt latest VoIP-Pal patent infringement litigation | AppleInsiderJul 06 09:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Patents Roundup: Technicolor, Alice, Voip-Pal, Fitbit, Marijuana Patents, and JDate | TechrightsJul 06 09:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Instead of Stopping Software Patent Grants the USPTO Actively ‘Advertises’ Such Patents, e.g. Patents on Cryptocurrencies | TechrightsJul 06 09:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Watchtroll, Composed by Patent Trolls, Calls the American Patent System “Corrupt” | TechrightsJul 06 09:50
techrights-news"legal regime that ostensibly punishes piracy [sic] in a culture in which it is unavoidable." https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3869860Jul 06 09:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-papers.ssrn.com | We're All Pirates Now: Making Do in a Precarious IP Ecosystem by Jessica M. Silbey :: SSRNJul 06 09:51
techrights-newsThe U.S. Supreme Court Limits #Patent Law’s Assignor Estoppel Doctrine https://www.natlawreview.com/article/us-supreme-court-limits-patent-law-s-assignor-estoppel-doctrine #scotus #lawJul 06 09:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.natlawreview.com | Supreme Court Ruling Limits Patent Law Assignor Estoppel DoctrineJul 06 09:52
techrights-news#Microsoft #Windows TCO https://www.theregister.com/2021/07/05/kaseya_vsa_update/ #ProprietarySoftware #securityJul 06 09:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | IT for service providers biz Kaseya defers decision about SaaS restoration following supply chain attack • The RegisterJul 06 09:52
techrights-newsRecognition For #NoSQL Pioneers https://www.i-programmer.info/news/99-professional/14692-recognition-for-nosql-pioneers-.html "Turing Award being the best known and most lucrative" #science #db #databasesJul 06 09:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.i-programmer.info | Recognition For NoSQL PioneersJul 06 09:52
techrights-news#IBM / #RedHat treating #Gartner like a fountain of truth https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2021/7/digital-transformation-how-improve-partnership see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gartner_GroupJul 06 09:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | Digital transformation: How to forge tighter business partnerships | The Enterprisers ProjectJul 06 09:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Gartner Group - TechrightsJul 06 09:53
techrights-news● NEWS ● #ACM #Education ☞ Ep17 Bryan Cantrill https://learning.acm.org/bytecast/ep17-bryan-cantrillJul 06 09:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-learning.acm.org | Ep17 Bryan CantrillJul 06 09:54
schestowitzgustaf: have you tried plasma5?Jul 06 09:55
techrights-news● NEWS ● #CSC #Programming ☞ High-Performance Computing yesterday, today, and tomorrow - interview with HPC Specialist Dr. Jussi Enkovaara https://www.csc.fi/en/-/high-performance-computing-yesterday-today-and-tomorrow-interview-with-hpc-specialist-dr.-jussi-enkovaaraJul 06 09:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.csc.fi | High-Performance Computing yesterday, today, and tomorrow - interview with HPC Specialist Dr. Jussi Enkovaara - High-Performance Computing yesterday, today, and tomorrow - interview with HPC Specialist Dr. Jussi Enkovaara - CSC Company SiteJul 06 09:56
activelowhttps://github.com/rpm-software-management/rpm/issues/1598Jul 06 09:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Installation / verification should not pass if the (sub)key(s) has been revoked or expired · Issue #1598 · rpm-software-management/rpm · GitHubJul 06 09:56
techrights-news● NEWS ● #Salon #Education ☞ "Public" universities aren't free, conservatives https://www.salon.com/2021/07/05/public-universities-arent-free-conservatives/Jul 06 09:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-"Public" universities aren't free, conservatives | Salon.comJul 06 09:56
schestowitzactivelow: we need a 'nitter' for shithubJul 06 09:57
schestowitz /rpm-software-management is not just a mirrorJul 06 09:58
schestowitzI have checkedJul 06 09:58
schestowitzso red hat is outsourcing to proprietary softwareJul 06 09:58
schestowitzprobably before Microsoft took overJul 06 09:58
schestowitzRed Hat doesn't know how to install git :-DJul 06 09:58
activelowschestowitz: this report wasn't concerned with git, it is redhat package manager itself which doesn't correctly verify keys and signatures with package installationsJul 06 09:59
gustafschestowitz: I don't run Linux on the desktopJul 06 10:16
gustafwell on my PiJul 06 10:16
gustafbut that's just the default UIJul 06 10:16
gustafhttps://github.com/rpm-software-management/rpm/issues/1598#issuecomment-806472662Jul 06 10:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Installation / verification should not pass if the (sub)key(s) has been revoked or expired · Issue #1598 · rpm-software-management/rpm · GitHubJul 06 10:17
gustaftime again to link to the "PGP is security theater" post? Jul 06 10:18
activelowit is supply chain integrity, and if anything signed by red hat / ibm can be trusted with what RPM implements for verificationJul 06 10:24
techrights-news#Micorosoft #Windows TCO: #TheVerge #ProprietarySoftware ☞ Kaseya #ransomware attackers demand $70 million, claim they infected over a million devices https://www.theverge.com/2021/7/5/22564054/ransomware-revil-kaseya-coopJul 06 10:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Kaseya ransomware attackers demand $70 million - The VergeJul 06 10:25
gustafyepJul 06 10:25
gustafPGP is probably not the right tool thoJul 06 10:25
techrights-news#Micorosoft #Windows TCO: #TheHill #ProprietarySoftware ☞ Biden: 'Initial thinking' recent #ransomware attack not by Russian government https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/561491-biden-initial-thinking-recent-ransomware-attack-not-russian-governmentJul 06 10:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Biden: 'Initial thinking' recent ransomware attack not by Russian government | TheHillJul 06 10:25
activelowfollowing the arguments in the comments is enlighting too, such as re-signing packages wasn't desireable or practical and similar argumentsJul 06 10:25
gustafyes, revocation is complexJul 06 10:25
gustaf"trust the key up until this timestamp - then no longer!"Jul 06 10:25
activelowfor binary package deployments i implemented this: hash all binary packges and save output in package.DIGESTS file, then sign that as often with as many keys whenever i wish to do soJul 06 10:26
gustafwhat if you're reading the key after the revocation has been done but before it has been published where you can read it ? Jul 06 10:26
techrights-news#Micorosoft #Windows TCO: #TheHill #ProprietarySoftware ☞ #Ransomware attack hits software manager, affecting 200 companies https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/561445-ransomware-attack-hits-software-manager-affecting-200-companiesJul 06 10:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ransomware attack hits software manager, affecting 200 companies | TheHillJul 06 10:26
gustafthen you get the revocation, how do you retroactively check that? Jul 06 10:26
gustafPKI is a hard problem , especially if decentralizedJul 06 10:27
gustafSKS keyservers are no longer viable Jul 06 10:27
activelowi commit this digests file with signature into git repository, which can be be tag-signed tooJul 06 10:27
techrights-news#Micorosoft #Windows TCO: #TheHill #ProprietarySoftware ☞ [Crackers] demanding $70M to restore data in massive cyberattack: report https://thehill.com/policy/technology/561575-hackers-demanding-70m-to-restore-data-in-massive-cyberattack-reportJul 06 10:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Hackers demanding $70M to restore data in massive cyberattack: report | TheHillJul 06 10:27
techrights-news#Micorosoft #Windows TCO: #Reuters #ProprietarySoftware ☞ Up to 1,500 businesses affected by ransomware attack, U.S. firm's CEO says https://www.reuters.com/technology/hackers-demand-70-million-liberate-data-held-by-companies-hit-mass-cyberattack-2021-07-05/Jul 06 10:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Up to 1,500 businesses affected by ransomware attack, U.S. firm's CEO says | ReutersJul 06 10:28
gustafPeter Todd is using the BTC blockchain to implemeent timestamps https://petertodd.org/2016/opentimestamps-git-integrationJul 06 10:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-petertodd.org | Solving the PGP Revocation Problem with OpenTimestamps for Git CommitsJul 06 10:28
activelowif anyone wanted to do binary package merges (with my gentoo based distro), then package.DIGESTS file and it's signature can be verified easily, and the hashes of inidvidual binary packages matched against the recorded oneJul 06 10:29
gustaf``People say we need to make PGP easy enough for a gorilla to use, but at this rate we’ll be lucky if we succeed at making PGP easy enough for Phil Zimmerman to use.''Jul 06 10:29
schestowitzpackage managers were always a riskJul 06 10:29
activelowapt had similar issues iircJul 06 10:29
schestowitzthere are alternative approachesJul 06 10:29
schestowitzwhich do not involve compiling from source eitherJul 06 10:29
schestowitzone is, have a secure site/server, then fetch from there, use checksum if neededJul 06 10:30
schestowitzso you don't need to trust some distro packagesJul 06 10:30
schestowitzsome hardcore security people refuse to use any package managerJul 06 10:30
schestowitzesp. the centralised onesJul 06 10:30
schestowitzRaspiberry PiGates Foundation went as far as adding Microsoft to the reposJul 06 10:31
schestowitzto add proprietary stuff as rootJul 06 10:31
schestowitzinsane!Jul 06 10:31
techrights-news#Micorosoft #Windows TCO: #NBC ☞ [Crackers] behind holiday crime spree demand $70 million, say they locked 1 million devices https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/hackers-holiday-crime-spree-demand-70-million-say-locked-1-million-dev-rcna1339Jul 06 10:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nbcnews.com | Hackers behind holiday crime spree demand $70 million, say they locked 1 million devicesJul 06 10:31
activelowanyway, my distro design is different, since i intend to ship full firmware images signed of cause (amd64 ISO, or aarch64 bootable sdcard images)Jul 06 10:31
techrights-news#Micorosoft #Windows TCO: #VOANews ☞ Up to 1,500 Businesses Affected by #Ransomware Attack, US Firm's CEO Says https://www.voanews.com/silicon-valley-technology/1500-businesses-affected-ransomware-attack-us-firms-ceo-saysJul 06 10:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.voanews.com | Up to 1,500 Businesses Affected by Ransomware Attack, US Firm's CEO Says | Voice of America - EnglishJul 06 10:31
activelowand neither APT nor RPM tell the story about supply chain integrity with source-base distros anyway, which is another severe problem, which too red hat and debian haveJul 06 10:32
gustafSadly Peter Todd is now antivaxx-curiousJul 06 10:33
gustafhe used to be the only Bitcoin person who made any senseJul 06 10:33
gustafbblJul 06 10:33
techrights-news#Microsoft #Windows TCO; a lot of the media neglects to say what's impacted in terms of operating system (how convenient; unless it's #Linux and then they attack Linux, the #kernel ) https://www.theregister.com/2021/07/05/kaseya_vsa_update/Jul 06 10:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | IT for service providers biz Kaseya defers decision about SaaS restoration following supply chain attack • The RegisterJul 06 10:34
activelowopenbsd implemented signify utility for their desires, it is simpler than gnupgJul 06 10:35
activelowsigning git tags with signify isn't possible to my knowledge, this requires gnupg, blacklisted any version later than gnupg 1.4.x here, gnupg2 is, strangeJul 06 10:36
techrights-news● NEWS ● #RaspberryPi #RasPi #GNU #Linux ☞ VNC? Seriously??? https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/building-a-business-with-vnc-connect-on-raspberry-pi/ see http://techrights.org/2021/07/02/adafruit-and-raspi-limited/Jul 06 10:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.raspberrypi.org | Building a business with VNC Connect on Raspberry Pi - Raspberry PiJul 06 10:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Think Twice Before Buying Raspberry Pi and Adafruit Because They Work for Microsoft and Pass Data to Microsoft (and Even Promote Microsoft’s Proprietary Software) | TechrightsJul 06 10:37
techrights-newsWhat #CorporateMedia calls #microsoft #windows when it's PROMOTIONAL: #vista11 (the vapourware, the myth). What media calls Microsoft Windows when it's NEGATIVE (like thousands of businesses being blackmailed by crackers because they use Windows): "computer"Jul 06 10:40
activelowanother attack on supply chain integrity is the toolchain/compilers, which somehow succeeded. everyone needs a toolchain/compiler shipped as binary to begin withJul 06 10:45
activelowwhich is another reason i want to ditch gcc (and llvm/clang)Jul 06 10:45
activelowmaybe minix kernel, yet i lost interest in that one when minix switched to clang and netbsd tree, and hardware support with minix didn't seem promising eitherJul 06 10:49
activelowanyone knows which compiler was used by Torvalds with his early kernel release forked from minix?Jul 06 10:50
schestowitzmaybe gcc?Jul 06 10:50
schestowitzI mean, why not?Jul 06 10:50
schestowitzhe spoke about gcc to the mediaJul 06 10:50
schestowitzhow gnu was in fact needed to make his projectJul 06 10:50
schestowitzin 1991 linux wasn't gpl yetJul 06 10:51
techrights-news● NEWS ● #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights # ☞ Copyright Holders: Automatically Deleting Pirated [sic] Content From Search Isn't Enough https://torrentfreak.com/copyright-holders-say-automatically-deleting-pirated-content-from-search-isnt-enough-210705/Jul 06 10:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Copyright Holders: Automatically Deleting Pirated Content From Search Isn't Enough * TorrentFreakJul 06 10:51
techrights-news● NEWS ● #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights #france ☞ #StreamRipping Can be Perfectly Legal, French Ministry of Culture Says https://torrentfreak.com/stream-ripping-can-be-perfectly-legal-french-ministry-of-culture-says-210705/Jul 06 10:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Stream-Ripping Can be Perfectly Legal, French Ministry of Culture Says * TorrentFreakJul 06 10:52
activelowbtw. i think this is the perspective Richard Stallman and Torvalds are missing: they are not confronted with the type of clusterfuck common nowadays. Torvalds and RMS did have small and efficient compilers (pcc) and a kernel (minix) to begin with.Jul 06 10:53
activelowa noob nowadays has to stomach GCC and Kernel 5.x with hundreds of millions of lines of code, add to this the dozens of thousands of spec sheets from intel and similarJul 06 10:53
techrights-news● NEWS ● #ITWire #Privacy #Surveillance ☞ #ABC mum when asked if #iview user data is fed to Google, Facebook https://itwire.com/open-sauce/abc-mum-when-asked-if-iview-user-data-is-fed-to-google,-facebook.htmlJul 06 10:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iTWire - ABC mum when asked if iview user data is fed to Google, FacebookJul 06 10:53
schestowitzactivelow: complexity is a problem, yesJul 06 10:54
schestowitzsystemd will soon hit 2 LOCsJul 06 10:54
schestowitzand it just implements a bunch of basic crapJul 06 10:54
schestowitzI counted the number of files 2 years agoJul 06 10:55
schestowitzI downloaded the whole pile from shithubJul 06 10:55
schestowitzit was like 15,000 files, IIRCJul 06 10:55
schestowitzgood luck learning that...Jul 06 10:55
techrights-news● NEWS ● #HollywoodReporter #Privacy #Surveillance #China ☞ #TikTok Extends Maximum Video Length to 3 Minutes https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/digital/tiktok-video-length-3-minutes-1234976638/Jul 06 10:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.hollywoodreporter.com | TikTok Extends Maximum Video Length to 3 Minutes – The Hollywood ReporterJul 06 10:55
schestowitzthere comes a point of fatigueJul 06 10:56
schestowitzit goes like thisJul 06 10:56
schestowitzuse basic programJul 06 10:56
schestowitzfeature addedJul 06 10:56
schestowitzfeatures added by the bootloadJul 06 10:56
schestowitzit becomes bloated (like some IDEs)Jul 06 10:56
activelowthis will be number one reason why gnu and fsf and ms and ibm and all the others will fail: this cannot be considered for university lecture anymoreJul 06 10:56
schestowitzand then you realise the original program suited you betterJul 06 10:56
schestowitzso you walk away back to simplicity... happens a lotJul 06 10:56
schestowitzI moved from kate to nano some days ago for keeping track of daily linksJul 06 10:56
schestowitzactivelow: well, kernel of LF (Zemlin PAC) misframe the issueJul 06 10:57
schestowitzthey say total crapJul 06 10:57
schestowitzlike the problem is diversityJul 06 10:57
schestowitznot the complexity of the projustJul 06 10:57
schestowitzas if letting a female student from a poor country spend 3 months studying on to code, and on kernel, would yield something of use to LinuxJul 06 10:58
activelowschestowitz: 20years ago profs at Telekom University complained already the proposed schedule (from headquarters) didn't succeed with teaching the basics anymore, telco engineering covers some more fields than software (electronics, analog, digital circuit)Jul 06 10:58
activelowadd to this the crap advertised by sun and oracle and microsoft to blow up further, this was total insanity, 20 years ago alreadyJul 06 10:58
schestowitzin reality, this intern time just takes away from limited resources of longtime kernel hackersJul 06 10:58
schestowitzbut they they get to check some "box" for "diversity"Jul 06 10:58
schestowitzmaking linux easier by outsourcing to shithub is a JOKE tooJul 06 10:59
schestowitzand zemlin (and the Sunshine Boys) do promote thisJul 06 10:59
schestowitzas if outsourcing to Microsoft means "inviting to young developers"Jul 06 10:59
schestowitzwhat developers?Jul 06 10:59
schestowitznot kernel hackersJul 06 10:59
schestowitzit's true that developing for linux is hardJul 06 11:00
schestowitznot the processes but fathoming where the heck to even start with some a massive pile of codeJul 06 11:00
schestowitzit's modular, but comprehensiveJul 06 11:00
activelowthere is not at least hardware available i would consider future-proof and appropriate for universitiesJul 06 11:01
schestowitzcopy-pasting someone's gplv2 driver to make similar derivative work might be a staring pointJul 06 11:01
schestowitznot shithubJul 06 11:01
activelowmaybe j-core.org, yet even this one is dead end because of Xilinx for exampleJul 06 11:01
schestowitzAMD bought itJul 06 11:01
techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▆▃▆▄▂▅▆▆▅▆▅▄▅▃▅▅▅▅▃▆▅▃▄▅▃▆▅▆▅▂▄▁ avg(k/sec) 23.46 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▁▁▁▂▁▁▂▂▂▁▂▂▁▁▁▂▂▂▂▁▂▂▁▂▃▂▁▂▂▂▂▁▁▁▁ avg(k/sec) 5.76▕ swarm size (avg): 303.99  ⟲Jul 06 11:01
schestowitzcoming soon: PSP for Universities(R)Jul 06 11:01
schestowitz"don't mind that other processor/OS"Jul 06 11:02
activelowDT chose motorola for their assembly lecture, to my knowledge this one is defunct alreadyJul 06 11:03
techrights-news● NEWS ● #NBC #Privacy #Surveillance #BookTok ☞ #TikTok is taking the book industry by storm, and retailers are taking notice https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/tiktok-taking-book-industry-storm-retailers-are-taking-notice-n1272909Jul 06 11:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nbcnews.com | TikTok is taking the book industry by storm, and retailers are taking noticeJul 06 11:03
techrights-news#Education Distro #Escuelas Linux 7.0 Released with New Apps, Based on Bodhi Linux 6.0 • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153079 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJul 06 11:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Educational Distro Escuelas Linux 7.0 Released with New Apps, Based on Bodhi Linux 6.0 | Tux MachinesJul 06 11:03
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/MotorolaJul 06 11:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Motorola - TechrightsJul 06 11:08
schestowitzMy PDA still uses Motorola chipJul 06 11:08
schestowitz low-power Motorola DragonBall processor https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palm_TungstenJul 06 11:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Palm Tungsten - WikipediaJul 06 11:09
schestowitzT3 and T5 turn out to have switched to Intel crapJul 06 11:10
schestowitzand later, with Treo, Palm killed itself, by choosing WindowsJul 06 11:11
schestowitzanother company killed after alliance with MicrosoftJul 06 11:11
schestowitzTT was "Texas Instruments OMAP (ARM) 144 MHz processor"Jul 06 11:11
schestowitzTungsten W is MotorolaJul 06 11:12
schestowitzvery small https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freescale_DragonBallJul 06 11:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Freescale DragonBall - WikipediaJul 06 11:13
schestowitz" It is supported by μClinux. It was designed by Motorola in Hong Kong and released in 1995"Jul 06 11:13
schestowitz"The more recent DragonBall MX series microcontrollers, later renamed the Freescale i.MX (MC9328MX/MCIMX) series, are intended for similar application to the earlier DragonBall devices but are based on an ARM processor core instead of a 68000 core."Jul 06 11:13
activelowsorry, i am not willing to learn three or more different instruction sets, several dozens of scripting languages and whatnotJul 06 11:14
activelowthere was more important things to do: maths, physics, electronics, analog, circuit designJul 06 11:15
activelowthis is what isn't understood, by those glorious leaders in telekom headquarters, fsf, ms, ibm or elsewhereJul 06 11:15
activelowthey are narrow minded idiotsJul 06 11:15
activelowi began studying year 2001, and 20 years ago already our profs complained openly, the arranged schedule in some headquarter somewhere was ruined, inappropriate to at least lecture the basics sufficientlyJul 06 11:17
schestowitzchina has a new processorJul 06 11:19
schestowitz[11:42] <techrights-news> #XiangShan open-source 64-bit #RISCV processor to rival Arm Cortex-A76 • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153046 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJul 06 11:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | XiangShan open-source 64-bit RISC-V processor to rival Arm Cortex-A76 | Tux MachinesJul 06 11:19
schestowitz64-bit would be complex instruction setJul 06 11:20
schestowitz8-bit might be OK for educatiinJul 06 11:20
schestowitzmaybe 16-bitJul 06 11:20
activelowbit what? register width, adress bus width, data bus width?Jul 06 11:20
schestowitzinstruction setJul 06 11:20
psydruidRISC-V 64-bit is simple enoughJul 06 11:21
psydruidregister widthJul 06 11:22
activelowlet me guess: xilinx? or which molester in silicon valley is it with risc-v? i don't care what they came up with again in the promised land of theirs.Jul 06 11:25
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psydruidXiangShan is from the Chinese Academy of Sciences and the code (in Chisel) is on GithubJul 06 11:32
activelowRISC-V = UC BerkeleyJul 06 11:35
psydruidwhat do you suggest using instead?Jul 06 11:36
activelowi suggest a definition of criteria to evaluate the entire supply chainJul 06 11:37
schestowitzgood luck with that...Jul 06 11:38
techrights-news● NEWS ● #WSWS #Assange #Wikileaks ☞ Julian Assange’s freedom depends on the mobilisation of the working class https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2021/07/05/pers-j05.htmlJul 06 11:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.wsws.org | Julian Assange’s freedom depends on the mobilisation of the working class - World Socialist Web SiteJul 06 11:38
techrights-news● NEWS ● #YahooNews #Khashoggi ☞ 'A direct trail of blood drops' leads from a #Twitter hack to Jamal Khashoggi's murder https://news.yahoo.com/a-direct-trail-of-blood-drops-leads-from-a-twitter-hack-to-jamal-khashoggis-murder-090051087.htmlJul 06 11:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.yahoo.com | 'A direct trail of blood drops' leads from a Twitter hack to Jamal Khashoggi's murderJul 06 11:39
activelowschestowitz: with RISC-V the job is done already. UC Berkely and the entire complex surrounding them.Jul 06 11:40
techrights-news#twitter : we take money from criminals for #reputationLaundering http://techrights.org/2021/07/05/bill-gates-pays-twitter/ older: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-34474798Jul 06 11:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Reality is Warped When You Pay for ‘Perception Management’ (or: Bill Gates Pays Twitter for Propaganda) | TechrightsJul 06 11:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | Meet Twitter's second biggest shareholder, Saudi Prince Alwaleed bin Talal - BBC NewsJul 06 11:41
schestowitzI thought you were criticising themJul 06 11:42
techrights-news#Google #Android Leftovers • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153080 #Linux #TuxMachinesJul 06 11:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesJul 06 11:44
activelowwasted time and effort to think about. if UC berkeley seeks profit for their shareholders with RISC-V they can do their work for themselves. ideally behind a fence surrounding them.Jul 06 11:44
activelowmaybe offload all the entire glorious inventions of theirs for them to drown in spec sheets stacked up to the moon.Jul 06 11:44
schestowitzthere are more issues than just thisJul 06 11:47
schestowitzinc. the manufacturing meansJul 06 11:47
schestowitzthe hardware freedom 'movement' is weak for a reasonJul 06 11:53
schestowitzthey barely stand a chanceJul 06 11:53
schestowitzyou can copy computer programs without raw materials, just magnetic disk space or similarJul 06 11:54
gustafSoftware is kinda unique in that the capital requirements are really small Jul 06 11:54
gustafyou basically need living expenses and a computer Jul 06 11:54
gustafmaybe a net connections Jul 06 11:54
schestowitzRichard Stallman calls for the creation of a Free Universal Encyclopedia and Learning Resource http://audio-video.gnu.org/video/#very-old-videosJul 06 11:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-audio-video.gnu.org | Audio/Video - GNU Project - Free-Software FoundationJul 06 11:54
schestowitzbefore WikipediaJul 06 11:54
schestowitzhe actually inspired its creationJul 06 11:55
schestowitzRMS said that within about a decade of work it would be doableJul 06 11:55
schestowitz5 years later it was already work in progressJul 06 11:56
activelowacademic freedom, hardware circuit design, analog, electronics, phyiscs etc. aren't fundementally different to software and related freedom issuesJul 06 11:57
schestowitzof course the Internet changed a lot in the distribution senseJul 06 11:57
schestowitzactivelow: they are in the distribution senseJul 06 11:58
schestowitzalso modification of today's hardware is hardJul 06 11:58
activelowdepends, FPGAs could have made it easier evenJul 06 11:59
schestowitzeve programmable boards limit what you can change in themJul 06 11:59
schestowitzleah works on freedom in bootingJul 06 12:00
schestowitzbecause usually you are limited once you power up a machineJul 06 12:00
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activelowexactly, typical software and hardware are not suitable for university or schoolsJul 06 12:03
schestowitz'modern'Jul 06 12:04
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techrights-news● NEWS ● #CounterPunch #fb ☞ #Facebook Gives the Most Dangerous Extremists a Free Pass https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/07/05/facebook-gives-the-most-dangerous-extremists-a-free-pass/Jul 06 12:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Facebook Gives the Most Dangerous Extremists a Free Pass - CounterPunch.orgJul 06 12:10
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techrights-newsScapegoat https://assets.amuniversal.com/95f670f0b5a701396651005056a9545d Ref: https://dilbert.com/strip/2021-07-05Jul 06 12:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Dilbert Comic Strip on 2021-07-05 | Dilbert by Scott AdamsJul 06 12:54
techrights-news#pakistan #blasphemy #islam #intolerance https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/pakistani-policeman-accused-killing-man-acquitted-blasphemy-2021-07-03/Jul 06 12:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Pakistani policeman accused of killing man acquitted of blasphemy | ReutersJul 06 12:54
techrights-newsIn the latest episode of ACM ByteCast, host Jessica Bell chats with former ACM President Vint Cerf, Vice President and Chief Internet Evangelist at Gulag https://learning.acm.org/bytecast/ep9-vint-cerfJul 06 12:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-learning.acm.org | Ep9 Vint CerfJul 06 12:57
schestowitzAriadne: seems like some users in eastern europe/north europe/western russia cannot connect (IRC, site)Jul 06 12:59
techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▆▄▃▄▇▅▆▄▅▃▆▂▆▂▃▂▅▆▃▅▆▅▅▅▆▆▃▅▅▆▄▃▄▂▅▁ avg(k/sec) 22.38 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▂▁▃▂▁▁▁▁▂▁▂▁▁▁▂▂▁▂▂▁▂▂▂▂▂▃▁▂▁▁▁▁▃▁ avg(k/sec) 5.20▕ swarm size (avg): 303.96  ⟲Jul 06 13:01
schestowitz<gustaf> whelp the primary server seems to have taken ill... Jul 06 13:02
schestowitz<schestowitz> what does it say?Jul 06 13:02
schestowitz<schestowitz> 4 users offlined, inc. bridgeJul 06 13:02
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schestowitz<gustaf> no entries here since 11:10:31 UTC http://techrights.org/irc/Jul 06 13:02
schestowitz<gustaf> my client is timeing out when attempting to connect Jul 06 13:02
schestowitz<schestowitz> so it looks like an IP address issueJul 06 13:02
schestowitz<schestowitz> 2 other clients that lost connection are in St Peterburg Jul 06 13:02
schestowitzPetersJul 06 13:02
techrights-news" #Mozilla is the “socially acceptable” face of Big Tech. For example, Google and friends know you’d never “donate your voice” for whatever their next privacy eroding product is." https://mastodon.ar.al/@aral/106528391700910055Jul 06 13:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mastodon.ar.al | Aral Balkan: "Mozilla is the “socially acceptable” face of Big …" - Aral’s MastodonJul 06 13:03
schestowitzwill check if site accessible from russiaJul 06 13:05
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schestowitz/fntry againJul 06 13:38
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schestowitz<schestowitz> can you access http?Jul 06 13:51
schestowitz<schestowitz> can you ping the address?Jul 06 13:51
schestowitz<schestowitz> 8 locations around the world, site accessible OK https://shotsherpa.com/adventure/60e4481c9d82d52899749e80Jul 06 13:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-View your website around the world - ShotSherpaJul 06 13:51
schestowitz<gustaf> might be an SSL issueJul 06 13:51
schestowitz<schestowitz> try againJul 06 13:51
schestowitzI've just been on the phone for 40 minutes with BTJul 06 13:51
schestowitzthey're upgrading us at home to fiber optics and I convinced them to even charge us less than for copperJul 06 13:52
schestowitz8 pounds/month + line rentalJul 06 13:53
schestowitzuploading videos would be a lot fasterJul 06 13:53
techrights-news"So #Mozilla creates a voice dataset and licenses it liberally so any #surveillance capitalist like Google, etc., can use it." https://mastodon.ar.al/@aral/106528391700910055Jul 06 13:56
techrights-news"Imagine taking the musical notation system and the 17th century's circle of fifths, replacing the letters with numbers and getting a patent for that." https://fosstodon.org/@yarmo/106527395003928635 #patents #swpatsJul 06 13:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fosstodon.org | Yarmo: "Imagine taking the musical notation system and th…" - FosstodonJul 06 13:57
techrights-news#deletegithub #microsoft https://x0f.org/@FreePietje/106524109595341854Jul 06 13:58
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techrights-newsI hope he no longer works for #startpage https://chaos.social/@echo_pbreyer/106527321291899024 startpage betrayed all of us http://techrights.org/wiki/StartpageJul 06 14:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Patrick Breyer: "@digihumanrights@twitter.com @alexanderhanff@twit…" - chaos.socialJul 06 14:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Startpage - TechrightsJul 06 14:00
techrights-news"Oops - that last one I posted is a good talk, but it's not the one I meant to post. I'd meant to post this one, with a gratifying #FOSS angle towards the end." https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/@lightweight/106527451328253663Jul 06 14:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mastodon.nzoss.nz | Dave Lane: "Oops - that last one I posted is a good talk, but…" - Mastodon - NZOSSJul 06 14:01
Techrights-secnice, I hope the fibre helps a lot.  It won't help with regular web sites, thoughJul 06 14:01
Techrights-secsince the slow down for regular web sites is usually a combination of a sluggishJul 06 14:01
Techrights-secserver and about 5 MB of javascript, consisting of multiple layers fromJul 06 14:01
Techrights-secmany distinct hosts.Jul 06 14:01
schestowitzit can help serve larger files, reduce network congestion when transferring large video files (esp. rsync), and should cost less at least for the next 24 months. But I want to try it before building up false hopes. Jul 06 14:03
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Techrights-secIt should help a lot with the uploads and with IPFS.  Can you get better Jul 06 14:05
Techrights-secfirmware on the main router as part of the deal?  e.g. OpenWRT?Jul 06 14:05
schestowitzI did not ask as I was focusing on negotiating the price downwards... and this current setup is already configured for everything (until they remotely break it again). For IPFS we may be able to alter the tc configs when the total throughput increase. afaik, the more nodes you notify, the faster the reachJul 06 14:06
Techrights-secWhen will they install the fiber?Jul 06 14:06
schestowitzjust over  a week from now, around the 15th.Jul 06 14:06
techrights-news#ProprietarySoftware Security • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153082 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJul 06 14:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proprietary Software Security | Tux MachinesJul 06 14:11
techrights-news#KDE Plasma 5.22.3 Improves Support for Flatpak Apps, Plasma Wayland, and More • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153083 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJul 06 14:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Plasma 5.22.3 Improves Support for Flatpak Apps, Plasma Wayland, and More | Tux MachinesJul 06 14:12
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techrights-news#Nextcloud Hub 22 Launches with Approval Workflows, Integrated PDF Signing, and More • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153081 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJul 06 14:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Nextcloud Hub 22 Launches with Approval Workflows, Integrated PDF Signing, and More | Tux MachinesJul 06 14:12
Techrights-secExcellent.  That's quite soon.Jul 06 14:23
techrights-newsIs #ibm #redhat sort of 'hijacking' the acrnym "ODF" now? https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/finding-block-and-file1 https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/finding-block-and-file2 https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/finding-block-and-file3 OpenDocument != "OpenShift Data Foundation"Jul 06 14:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Finding block and file OCP application contents in ODF: The infrastructure | Enable SysadminJul 06 14:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Finding block and file OCP application contents in ODF: Creating the project | Enable SysadminJul 06 14:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Finding block and file OCP application contents in ODF: Creating a file storage project | Enable SysadminJul 06 14:34
techrights-news#CentOS Stream 9 Builds Flowing, Opened Up For Contributors - Phoronix ⚓ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=CentOS-Stream-9-Builds ䷉ #Phoronix #IBM #RedHat 🐧 | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/07/06/#latestJul 06 14:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-CentOS Stream 9 Builds Flowing, Opened Up For Contributors - PhoronixJul 06 14:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media PostsJul 06 14:36
MinceR06 060029 < Ariadne> IBM or Microsoft or whoever, cannot take over the FSF board and draft a new GPLv4 and fuck us overJul 06 14:39
MinceRwhy could they not?Jul 06 14:39
MinceR06 062441 < activelow> there's no Unix anymore because of themJul 06 14:40
MinceR*BSD is not Unix?Jul 06 14:41
techrights-news#Rust in the #Linux #kernel http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153067#comment-30154Jul 06 14:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: Rusty Sting, ASUS Laptop Stuff, and Bloat | Tux MachinesJul 06 14:41
geriksonpoor BSDJul 06 14:42
geriksonno-one remembers them Jul 06 14:42
techrights-news#KDE Plasma 5.22.3, Bugfix Release for July http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153083#comment-30153Jul 06 14:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Plasma 5.22.3 Improves Support for Flatpak Apps, Plasma Wayland, and More | Tux MachinesJul 06 14:43
techrights-newsCan we like... NOT promote outsourcing #gnu #linux files or file systems to the #nsa via digital gangsters and criminals from #microsoft h https://www.linuxuprising.com/2021/07/access-onedrive-from-linux-using.html see http://techrights.org/2021/03/17/epoleaks-report-march-2021-part-12/Jul 06 14:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxuprising.com | Access OneDrive From Linux Using OneDriver (v0.11.0 Released With GUI For Easy Setup) - Linux Uprising BlogJul 06 14:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO and Microsoft Collude to Break the Law — Part XII: Foreign Corrupt Practices, Bid Rigging and “Slush Funds” | TechrightsJul 06 14:45
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techrights-news#IBM / #RedHat Leftovers • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153084 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJul 06 14:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat Leftovers | Tux MachinesJul 06 14:50
techrights-newsTorvalds is clearly not in charge of Linus anymore http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153067#comment-30154Jul 06 14:51
techrights-newsMore #OpenRISC #LiteX Drivers Expected To Be Upstreamed In Linux - Phoronix ⚓ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OpenRISC-LiteX-Drivers-Coming ䷉ #Phoronix #Kernel #LinuxJul 06 14:53
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techrights-newsLinux 5.14 Continues Work On #USB4 Support Bring-Up - Phoronix ⚓ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-5.14-Continues-USB4-TB ䷉ #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux 🐧 | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/07/06/#latestJul 06 14:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux 5.14 Continues Work On USB4 Support Bring-Up - PhoronixJul 06 14:53
MinceR06 090223 < lockeanarchist> never understood powershellJul 06 14:55
MinceRthe point of powerHell is to make your shell depend on botNET :>Jul 06 14:56
MinceRalso an effort to pretend that microshit knows about working in the command lineJul 06 14:56
schestowitztbhJul 06 14:56
schestowitzas I understand it, this happened like thisJul 06 14:57
schestowitzwe had DOSJul 06 14:57
schestowitzand batch filesJul 06 14:57
schestowitzthen came WindowsJul 06 14:57
schestowitzand they had dos/cmdJul 06 14:57
schestowitzas a legacy thingJul 06 14:57
schestowitzbut it was utter crap compared to unix/linuxJul 06 14:57
schestowitzso they tried copying it poorlyJul 06 14:57
schestowitzand nobody cameJul 06 14:57
schestowitzI like it like that...Jul 06 14:57
MinceR(so they came up with a shell where you have to alias everything if you don't want to wear down your fingers to stumps)Jul 06 14:58
techrights-newsWhen you naively outsource RSS feeds to #google and then it hits you! He's the second I see moaning about it (second after Huang) http://www.fosspatents.com/2021/07/foss-patents-email-notifications.htmlJul 06 14:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosspatents.com | FOSS Patents: FOSS Patents email notifications: switched from FeedBurner (to be discontinued by Google) to follow.it, which offers some advantagesJul 06 14:59
techrights-news... #FlorianMueller would be wise to just abandon #google #blogspot already ...altogether, more than a decade late. I discussed it with him in length (over email) for a long time. He says he controls the domain. But the CMS is #ProprietarySoftware ... vendor lock-in... http://www.fosspatents.com/2021/07/foss-patents-email-notifications.htmlJul 06 15:00
techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▂▅▆▅▅▅▇▄▅▅▃▄▅▁▄▅▃▄▃▃▆▁▂▃▅▆▄▅▆▃▅▆▅▄▁ avg(k/sec) 21.28 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▁▂▂▂▂▁▁▂▁▁▁▂▁█▁▃▁▁▂▁▁▂█▁▁▂▂▂▂▁▂▂▂▁ avg(k/sec) 12.71▕ swarm size (avg): 303.86  ⟲Jul 06 15:01
techrights-news#epo has just updated this Web page to cover up its crimes, including violations of #gdpr https://www.epo.org/about-us/office/data-protection-and-privacy.html see http://techrights.org/2021/07/05/complicity-of-epo-administrative-council/Jul 06 15:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.epo.org | EPO - Data protection & privacyJul 06 15:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EPO’s Administrative Council Has Just Shown Evidence of Its Complicity (Again) | TechrightsJul 06 15:02
techrights-newsNotice how the FIRST THREE SECTION all of them in this page are #microsoft https://www.epo.org/about-us/office/data-protection-and-privacy.html #epo is breaking the #law again http://techrights.org/2021/03/22/epoleaks-report-march-2021-finale/Jul 06 15:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO and Microsoft Collude to Break the Law — Summing Up: EPO Administrative Council Still Asleep at the Wheel | TechrightsJul 06 15:03
DaemonFCschestowitz, I noted this somewhere else...Jul 06 15:03
DaemonFC"Yeah, remember when there weren't smartphones? You just balanced your checkbook by hand or with quickbooks and if you wanted to know what was going on, you asked someone?Jul 06 15:03
DaemonFCNow you can have random apps alerting you to dumb shit in the middle of the night for no reason if you forget to turn the volume off and stealing your bank account password and random assholes on Yelp who think they're the local food critic.Jul 06 15:03
DaemonFCConsumertards love this, but they didn't stop there. As stupid as smartphones are, they at least pretend to have a purpose. "Smart" speakers that listen to your home all the time don't even pretend to do that, and now thanks to Peloton you can spend $2,500 for a stationary bike that has a tablet that won't do anything except what Peloton tells it to do, for $39.99 a month."Jul 06 15:03
techrights-news#epo is a hugely corrupt institution run by criminals and liars. They love working them because it gives them immunity from the #law http://techrights.org/2021/04/16/bundestagate-part-20/Jul 06 15:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPOLeaks on Misleading the Bundestag — Part 20: Taking Stock | TechrightsJul 06 15:04
DaemonFC""Smart" phones have created numerous psychological problems that didn't exist previously. Such as creating another distraction in the bedroom tempting you not to sleep. Psychiatric studies have shown that just by having the phone in the room with you at night, you will probably not sleep as well. But they've also caused people to wall themselves off from others in unhealthy ways, leading even South Park to mock it by handing Eric Cartman a Jul 06 15:06
DaemonFCsensory deprivation box so nothing distracted him from his phone while people were trying to talk to him or were swerving to avoid him as he ignored the crosswalk signals."Jul 06 15:06
geriksontab-completion worksJul 06 15:07
geriksonalso has a built-in IDEJul 06 15:07
geriksonPS is slow reading files thoJul 06 15:08
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techrights-newsA bunch of fake 'endorsements' (marketing) from a fake 'news' site, IAM https://www.iam-media.com/the-ip-hall-of-fame-inductees-2021-announced see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/IAMJul 06 15:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.iam-media.com | The IP Hall of Fame inductees for 2021 announced | IAMJul 06 15:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IAM - TechrightsJul 06 15:08
DaemonFC"These stupid gadgets have seriously harmed actual interpersonal skills and relationships irreparably, to the point where people may have forgotten how to even have them anymore.Jul 06 15:09
DaemonFCThey create frustration for everyone, honestly, if they have even half a brain in their head. What pisses you off more than paying to go on a date with someone? Having them looking at their phone the entire time and then excusing themselves after dinner."Jul 06 15:09
schestowitzmaybe I'll do something about this EPO GDPR thing laterJul 06 15:09
schestowitzshould we do more articles/videos about audacity?Jul 06 15:09
schestowitzwe did a few earlier this yearJul 06 15:09
schestowitzthe situation now is sort of inconclusive with no actual newsJul 06 15:10
*schestowitz wraps up another lump of Daily LinksJul 06 15:10
geriksonI think the Audacity sitch needs to calm down a bit Jul 06 15:13
Ariadneschestowitz: probably banned in russiaJul 06 15:13
schestowitzsitch? Jul 06 15:19
schestowitzAriadne: no, I checkedJul 06 15:20
geriksonsorry, "situation"Jul 06 15:20
schestowitzeventually they managed to re-establish a connectionJul 06 15:20
schestowitzgerikson: seems like a bit mob-likeJul 06 15:20
schestowitzand I think they can reconcileJul 06 15:20
schestowitzon terms like no telemetryJul 06 15:20
schestowitzthe cla aspect bothers me lessJul 06 15:20
schestowitzwe've meanwhile crafted rules for apparmorJul 06 15:20
geriksondepends on how big a storm in a teacup this turns out to be Jul 06 15:20
schestowitzmaybe we'll publish theseJul 06 15:21
schestowitzmany links here: http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153021#comment-30151Jul 06 15:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Audacity is now a Possible Spyware, Remove it ASAP | Tux MachinesJul 06 15:21
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2021/05/07/audacity-and-muse-group/Jul 06 15:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Audacity Takeover by Muse Group is No Cause for Celebration | TechrightsJul 06 15:21
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schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2021/05/07/telemetry-in-audacity/Jul 06 15:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Outsourcing Audacity Development to Microsoft Proprietary Software and Then Copying Microsoft Tactics (and ‘Telemetry’) | TechrightsJul 06 15:23
techrights-newsLinks 6/7/2021: KDE Bugfixes and Qt 6.2 Beta • тє¢няιﻭнтѕ ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/07/06/qt-6-2-beta/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/07/06/qt-6-2-beta/Jul 06 15:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 6/7/2021: KDE Bugfixes and Qt 6.2 Beta | TechrightsJul 06 15:26
techrights-news#Kernel : #OpenRISC #LiteX and USB/Thunderbolt Changes in Linux • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153085 #Linux #TuxMachinesJul 06 15:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: OpenRISC LiteX and USB/Thunderbolt Changes in Linux | Tux MachinesJul 06 15:27
techrights-newstoday’s leffovers • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153086 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJul 06 15:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leffovers | Tux MachinesJul 06 15:27
schestowitzI will not do a videoJul 06 15:27
schestowitzI'll do text and try to calm things down sort of...Jul 06 15:28
schestowitzok, draft doneJul 06 15:40
schestowitzanybody wanna read?Jul 06 15:45
MinceRhttps://doomeu.tumblr.com/post/128857263272Jul 06 15:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-doomeu.tumblr.com | Doom: Evil Unleashed — imx-doomer: So…are you ready for this month’s...Jul 06 15:55
techrights-newsThe #Audacity Situation Needs More Diplomacy and Less Mob Mentality (We Can Probably Remove the Malicious Features Without Forking) • тє¢няιﻭнтѕ ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/07/06/audacity-diplomacy/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/07/06/audacity-diplomacy/Jul 06 15:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Audacity Situation Needs More Diplomacy and Less Mob Mentality (We Can Probably Remove the Malicious Features Without Forking) | TechrightsJul 06 15:57
schestowitzMinceR: 2015Jul 06 15:59
MinceRthat's numberwang!Jul 06 16:00
DaemonFCschestowitz, All of these stores have turned the air conditioning off.Jul 06 16:06
DaemonFCWalmart has been a blazing inferno every time I've gone to do my shopping lately.Jul 06 16:06
DaemonFCI ran into a memo a while back about how their goal is to get people out of the store quickly. I was like "Did I land in the Upside Down? They want people out quickly? What happened to stick around and maybe they'll buy more?".Jul 06 16:07
DaemonFCschestowitz, Walmart's selling stationary bikes that are basically a copycat peloton but without the bigass tablet that requires a $40 a month subscription.Jul 06 16:10
DaemonFCAlso, the stationary bike is $449, not $2500.Jul 06 16:10
DaemonFCWhat kind of a fucking idiot buys a $2,500 stationary bike that then requires a $40 a month subscription to a tablet that only runs stuff from the company that made the bike?Jul 06 16:11
DaemonFCThey've used COVID as an excue to finally get rid of the last drinking fountains and replace them with soda machines with bottled water.Jul 06 16:20
DaemonFCI drank out of drinking fountains for well over 30 years and nothing fucking happened.Jul 06 16:20
DaemonFCA few places still have "bottle refilling stations", which I suppose is better than nothing. Jul 06 16:20
DaemonFCCarlin said that nobody trusted the drinking water and that gave him hope.Jul 06 16:22
DaemonFCMy grandmother had the foulest smelling drinking water I've ever come across. At one point she figured if she bought a Brita system, it would help. Nope.Jul 06 16:23
DaemonFCIt was well water. Someone didn't dig the well deep enough and nobody was ever going to fix it.Jul 06 16:23
MinceRbig ass-tabletJul 06 16:29
schestowitzThe original "Surface"Jul 06 16:30
schestowitzwhy did they repurpose the brand?Jul 06 16:30
schestowitzThey all failedJul 06 16:30
schestowitzdid they hope people won't be able to find online info about the original failure?Jul 06 16:30
schestowitz2009: http://techrights.org/2009/04/25/microsoft-censorship-on-the-surface/Jul 06 16:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Negative Review of MS Surface Published, Microsoft Contacts Blogger and Has It Removed | TechrightsJul 06 16:31
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/wiki/Microsoft_-_LayoffsJul 06 16:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft - Layoffs - TechrightsJul 06 16:31
alexteethese are really nice https://github.com/microsoft/fluentui-system-iconsJul 06 16:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - microsoft/fluentui-system-icons: Fluent System Icons are a collection of familiar, friendly and modern icons from Microsoft.Jul 06 16:32
alexteefinally something useful from microsoft i can useJul 06 16:32
schestowitzewww\uglyJul 06 16:49
LibrarianBitcoin's 365-day moving average price just climbed above 30 cents per kilosatoshi, for the first time in history! Happy all-time-high day to the long-term savers!Jul 06 17:00
Ariadnethose icons are very whateverJul 06 17:00
Ariadneforkawesome is better imoJul 06 17:00
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schestowitzI like faenzaJul 06 17:04
techrights-news#Manchester is a #Football Capital and Deserves to Hold More International Matches Than #Wembley (London) ⚓ http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/07/06/manchester-football/ ䷉ #schestowitzJul 06 17:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Manchester is a Football Capital and Deserves to Hold More International Matches Than Wembley (London)Jul 06 17:07
DaemonFChttps://www.slashgear.com/audacity-open-source-audio-editor-has-become-spyware-05681012/amp/Jul 06 17:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Audacity open source audio editor has become spyware - SlashGearJul 06 17:09
schestowitzAMP x|Jul 06 17:10
schestowitzpoor man's gulagJul 06 17:10
techrights-newsEuropean #Patent Office (EPO) and the #EPO 's Administrative Council Both Complicit in Illegal #Outsourcing to #Microsoft (and Industrial #Espionage ) http://techrights.org/2021/07/06/epo-industrial-espionage/Jul 06 17:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | European Patent Office (EPO) and the EPO’s Administrative Council Both Complicit in Illegal Outsourcing to Microsoft (and Industrial Espionage) | TechrightsJul 06 17:15
techrights-newsToday in #Techrights • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153087 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJul 06 17:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesJul 06 17:19
bradchausjust exactly how could this affect linux ... linux does not use Powershell ... unless they mean there own WSL ... how misleading is this? ... https://betanews.com/2021/07/03/microsoft-urges-powershelll-users-to-upgrade-to-protect-against-critical-vulnerability/#commentsJul 06 17:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-betanews.com | Microsoft urges PowerShell users to upgrade to protect against critical vulnerabilityJul 06 17:20
techrights-news#Audacity ’s new management is making a huge mistake; but forking should be the last resort and there’s probably still room for constructive negotiation • тє¢няιﻭнтѕ ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/07/06/audacity-diplomacy/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/07/06/audacity-diplomacy/Jul 06 17:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Audacity Situation Needs More Diplomacy and Less Mob Mentality (We Can Probably Remove the Malicious Features Without Forking) | TechrightsJul 06 17:20
techrights-newsIt seems like the #EPO has just updated a Web page to help cover up its crimes, including gross violations of the #GDPR (abuse of #privacy of both staff and stakeholders) • тє¢няιﻭнтѕ ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/07/06/epo-industrial-espionage/ ䷉ #Techrights #europe| ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/07/06/epo-industrial-espionage/Jul 06 17:20
techrights-newsThe so-called 'Linux' Foundation is once again a #Microsoft #proprietarysoftware #monopoly outsourcer, plus the #openwashing https://linuxfoundation.org/press-release/linux-foundation-to-form-new-open-3d-foundation/ #deletegithubJul 06 17:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxfoundation.org | Linux Foundation to Form New Open 3D Foundation - Linux FoundationJul 06 17:22
techrights-newsGames for #gnu #linux in Steam... now discounted https://boilingsteam.com/steam-summer-sale-2021-our-picks/Jul 06 17:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boilingsteam.com | Steam Summer Sale 2021: Our Picks - Boiling SteamJul 06 17:23
schestowitzbradchaus: Microsoft boosting siteJul 06 17:25
schestowitzwith MS MVPs in itJul 06 17:25
MinceR06 173039 <~schestowitz> why did they repurpose the brand?Jul 06 17:25
DaemonFChttps://www.reddit.com/r/shrinkflation/comments/oainnz/shrinkflation_at_amc_theatres/Jul 06 17:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Shrinkflation at AMC Theatres : shrinkflationJul 06 17:25
MinceRmicrosoft's recipe for brand successJul 06 17:25
MinceRapply the brand to various things until one succeeds, claim victoryJul 06 17:26
bradchausso how downright f*cking bullshit reportingJul 06 17:26
DaemonFC$12.50 per movie ticket so you can get a "popcorn deal" with a large popcorn and two sodas for $22.Jul 06 17:26
DaemonFCThat's basically costing the theater about 20 cents for the soda syrup and 30-40 cents for the popcorn. So of course they need to shrink the popcorn tub.Jul 06 17:26
DaemonFCMovie theaters are dying. COVID accelerated it, but they're dying.Jul 06 17:27
bradchausi liked this though ... https://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-suspends-sql-server-on-windows-containers-beta-recommends-linux-instead/Jul 06 17:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.neowin.net | Microsoft suspends SQL Server on Windows Containers Beta, recommends Linux instead - NeowinJul 06 17:27
DaemonFCAmazon is buying up all of the movies that were produced that were meant to go to the theaters, because nobody goes there anymore. Ghost town.Jul 06 17:27
AdmFubarwe will be more Max Headroom like sooner than you thinkJul 06 17:28
AdmFubarat least the big chain theaters...Jul 06 17:29
DaemonFChttps://www.reddit.com/r/shrinkflation/comments/n5nqov/kikkomans_soy_sauce_is_33_smaller_for_the_same/Jul 06 17:30
AdmFubarI wonder how art houses will fairJul 06 17:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Kikkoman's Soy Sauce is 33% smaller for the same price. : shrinkflationJul 06 17:30
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DaemonFCAll the stuff at the store is getting depressingly small.Jul 06 17:30
DaemonFCRemember when you used to buy a pack of hotdogs that was like 12 of them for $1.98?Jul 06 17:30
DaemonFCI just paid $3.68 today for 8 of them.Jul 06 17:31
AdmFubarhttps://www.ipwatchdog.com/2021/07/06/owns-basmati-rice-india-pakistan-battle-gi-rights/id=135213/Jul 06 17:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ipwatchdog.com | Who Owns Basmati Rice? India and Pakistan Battle for GI RightsJul 06 17:32
AdmFubarhow big is the package..???Jul 06 17:32
DaemonFCI'm going to grill some tonight. I noticed that there's quite a large sodium difference between brands. Like, your doctor will say avoid hotdogs, but which ones? Right? One brand has 550 mg sodium per hotdog, and the other has 350.Jul 06 17:32
DaemonFC550 isn't terrific, but 350 isn't so bad.Jul 06 17:33
DaemonFCSo I buy on sodium content, a lot of times, now.Jul 06 17:33
AdmFubarnathan's are way too salty.. don't know how anyone can eat themJul 06 17:33
DaemonFCOscar Meyer were pretty salty too, from the label.Jul 06 17:33
DaemonFCMandy gets that godawful filipino spaghetti sauce.Jul 06 17:34
DaemonFCHalf a cup has like 2.2 grams of salt in it.Jul 06 17:34
schestowitzAdmFubar: the package was deflatedJul 06 17:34
DaemonFCAn entire day's worth.Jul 06 17:34
AdmFubarI try to buy the old fashioned kind, that are made in house at a local marketJul 06 17:34
DaemonFCYeah, I wanted to get some Vienna Beef ones (Chicago local). They're really expensive, but good.Jul 06 17:35
DaemonFCWalmart's app said they had plenty and yet they were out.Jul 06 17:35
MinceRmicrosoft's recipe for product success: rename it until it succeeds, claim victoryJul 06 17:35
DaemonFCThen I went to get my Vlasic sweet dill relish, and Walmart's app said they were out, and they had an entire case of it.Jul 06 17:35
DaemonFCThat shit is whack, yo.Jul 06 17:36
DaemonFCYou can't shop for groceries on it because it's always wrong, yet they punish you for going into the store and getting things yourself, in various ways.Jul 06 17:36
DaemonFCSomehow, people still use their app to grocery shop. And if they pull incomplete orders and make bad sustitutions, how are you supposed to use any of it?Jul 06 17:37
DaemonFCIf they pull 11 ingredients of a 12 ingredient recipe, you can't make dinner.Jul 06 17:38
techrights-news"In this video, I am going to show how to install #deepin 20.2.2." #china #gnu #linux #cn https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2btvRQ0msQJul 06 17:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How to install deepin 20.2.2 - YouTubeJul 06 17:38
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AdmFubarI try to avoid walmart.. like the local specialty stores betterJul 06 17:41
techrights-news#FOSSlife Team (LPI) promoting #proprietarySoftware of #microsoft and #GPLViolations ... maybe drop the "L" from LPI. You're no "LINUX" proponents...Jul 06 17:41
techrights-news#raspi adding #microsoft #malware to million of devices (even covertly!) didn't age well. Violation of Debian policies, pushing #proprietarySoftware that spies and, as it now turns out, ALSO GPL violations. http://techrights.org/2021/07/02/adafruit-and-raspi-limited/Jul 06 17:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Think Twice Before Buying Raspberry Pi and Adafruit Because They Work for Microsoft and Pass Data to Microsoft (and Even Promote Microsoft’s Proprietary Software) | TechrightsJul 06 17:43
schestowitzsome american entities are buying up british grocersJul 06 17:47
schestowitzhard to keep track of who owns which and whereJul 06 17:47
techrights-news#phoronix helps #microsoft #vapourware tactics (improper comparisons) and helps by naming attacks on #gnu #linux ... I'm very disappointedJul 06 17:48
techrights-newsToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153088 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJul 06 17:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesJul 06 17:50
DaemonFC<schestowitz> some american entities are buying up british grocersJul 06 17:52
DaemonFCIf your government was smarter, I suppose it would try to stop that.Jul 06 17:52
techrights-news#Nextcloud Hub 22 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153081#comment-30155Jul 06 17:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Nextcloud Hub 22 Launches with Approval Workflows, Integrated PDF Signing, and More | Tux MachinesJul 06 17:54
techrights-news#AIfES for #Arduino • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153089 Arduino alliance with #patent aggressor that needs to #deletegithub #proprietarySoftwareJul 06 17:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | AIfES for Arduino | Tux MachinesJul 06 17:55
DaemonFCschestowitz, Oh here. Let's let our money flow out of the country because some company that built a big box store with shelves to put the products on is owned by them and they mark everything up and don't do a lot else.Jul 06 17:59
DaemonFCWalmart would be much smaller if they didn't stock so many dumb things. Like 5 brands of ketchup, each in two or three different sizes.Jul 06 18:00
techrights-news#LinuxFoundation Pushing #Microsoft #Windows and Other Non-Linux Stuff • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153090 #TuxMachinesJul 06 18:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Foundation Pushing Microsoft Windows and Other Non-Linux Stuff | Tux MachinesJul 06 18:00
techrights-newsLinux does not mean #Linux anymore. http://techrights.org/2021/06/23/linux-foundation-and-linux-brand/ #zemlinPAC #linuxfoundation #grifting #abuseJul 06 18:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Time for Linus Torvalds to Enforce and Protect His Brand From Misuse by His Employer, the So-called ‘Linux’ Foundation | TechrightsJul 06 18:00
DaemonFCWho pays more? You pay more.Jul 06 18:01
DaemonFCIt costs money to manage this needless complexity. To heat and air condition (Okay, well, they solved the air conditioning by turning it off....) the store so they can waste all of this space.Jul 06 18:01
DaemonFCWho doesn't love coming out of the grocery store looking like they paid to go through a sweat lodge?Jul 06 18:02
techrights-newsREMEMBER: #linux and #linuxfoundation are barely related! They were, originally, but sometimes the latter actively works against the former. It's paid to do this, e.g. by #microsoft http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Linux_FoundatioJul 06 18:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundatio - TechrightsJul 06 18:05
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techrights-news#Proxmox Virtual Environment 7.0 released • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153091 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJul 06 18:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proxmox Virtual Environment 7.0 released | Tux MachinesJul 06 18:07
lockeanarchisthttps://0x0.st/-fls.pngJul 06 18:13
lockeanarchistwtfJul 06 18:13
lockeanarchisthttps://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=open-3d-engineJul 06 18:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux Foundation Launches Open 3D Foundation, Amazon Lumberyard Spun As Open 3D Engine - PhoronixJul 06 18:14
lockeanarchist"Linux" FoundationJul 06 18:14
DaemonFCMany workers are being forced back into offices they don't want to go to.Jul 06 18:21
DaemonFCBy bosses that have no idea how to run the company.Jul 06 18:21
DaemonFCAfter most of those setups were proven to cost the company more than they were worth.Jul 06 18:21
DaemonFCEven if productivity from work from home went down slightly, the insane rents and upkeep on running an office take away more from the company.Jul 06 18:22
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Ariadnetechnically, O3DE can be built for LinuxJul 06 18:25
AdmFubaryeah many city centers that have office space will soon be empty..Jul 06 18:25
Ariadnethere appears to be files in the repo relating to thatJul 06 18:25
lockeanarchisthttps://github.com/o3de/o3de/issues/746Jul 06 18:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux Editor · Issue #746 · o3de/o3de · GitHubJul 06 18:26
lockeanarchisthttps://github.com/o3de/o3de/issues/745Jul 06 18:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux Client Runtime · Issue #745 · o3de/o3de · GitHubJul 06 18:27
*Ariadne shrugsJul 06 18:27
Ariadnei dont really see the point of this project anyway, industry has basically standardized on UE and UnityJul 06 18:28
MinceRi'm not sure about the legality of unity on any platform other than windowsJul 06 18:30
lockeanarchistwell... many studios have their own enginesJul 06 18:30
MinceRand UE doesn't seem to support anything other than windows anymoreJul 06 18:31
lockeanarchistso, imo, is far from "standardized"Jul 06 18:31
lockeanarchistUE and Unity are just the most used by indieJul 06 18:31
MinceRalso, UE is proprietaryJul 06 18:31
AriadneUE can build payloads for mac and linux stillJul 06 18:32
Ariadneyes, proprietaryJul 06 18:32
lockeanarchistI don't have any faith on AmazonJul 06 18:32
Ariadnebut nobody will actually use o3deJul 06 18:32
lockeanarchistthey always ignore LinuxJul 06 18:32
Ariadnehanding it off to LF is a cry for help imoJul 06 18:32
geriksonis it like ApacheJul 06 18:33
Ariadnemaking game engines isnt exactly an LF specialtyJul 06 18:33
geriksonwhere unloved projects go to dieJul 06 18:33
lockeanarchistLinux foundation is for everything but LinuxJul 06 18:33
Ariadnegerikson: i've compared LF to ASF before, and there is certainly some element to itJul 06 18:34
geriksonhehJul 06 18:34
Ariadnelockeanarchist: theres a lot of Linux going on at LF, actuallyJul 06 18:34
Ariadneits justJul 06 18:34
Ariadneboring shitJul 06 18:34
Ariadnethat the marketing department cannot hypeJul 06 18:34
lockeanarchist"Foundations", they do everything but actually help the development of the project that named themJul 06 18:35
Ariadneyeah, the linux foundation doesn't help linux development by paying people to work on it, including linusJul 06 18:36
Ariadneyou've got itJul 06 18:36
lockeanarchistokay, they pay Linus and T'soJul 06 18:36
lockeanarchisttotally justifiedJul 06 18:36
Ariadneand Greg KHJul 06 18:37
Ariadneand Kees CookJul 06 18:37
Ariadneand ...Jul 06 18:37
MinceR06 193234 < Ariadne> UE can build payloads for mac and linux stillJul 06 18:38
MinceRepic doesn't seem to support them anymoreJul 06 18:38
Ariadnethere are certainly valid criticisms of LF, but a decent chunk of the money going out *is* going to FOSS developersJul 06 18:38
MinceRthey pay gkh to put daemons into the kernel in an attempt to make them perform less poorlyJul 06 18:39
Ariadneare you referring to kdbus?Jul 06 18:42
MinceRyesJul 06 18:42
Ariadneso, on one hand, having a kernel-mediated bus makes a lot of senseJul 06 18:48
AdmFubarhttps://www.ipwatchdog.com/2021/07/06/owns-basmati-rice-india-pakistan-battle-gi-rights/id=135213/Jul 06 18:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ipwatchdog.com | Who Owns Basmati Rice? India and Pakistan Battle for GI RightsJul 06 18:48
AdmFubarooopsJul 06 18:48
Ariadnebut on the other hand, dbus sucks, and we already have a solution: binderJul 06 18:48
AdmFubarhttps://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/kaseya-roughly-1-500-businesses-hit-by-revil-ransomware-attack/Jul 06 18:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bleepingcomputer.com | Kaseya: Roughly 1,500 businesses hit by REvil ransomware attackJul 06 18:49
AdmFubarthat's betterJul 06 18:49
MinceRthe way they went about it is definitely horrifyingJul 06 18:50
AdmFubarhttps://boingboing.net/2021/07/06/norway-law-requires-photoshopped-photos-to-be-disclosed.html?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=norway-law-requires-photoshopped-photos-to-be-disclosedJul 06 18:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boingboing.net | Norway law requires photoshopped pics to be labeled | Boing BoingJul 06 18:51
Ariadnebus1 is also crapJul 06 18:56
AdmFubarhttps://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=21/07/05/2352258&from=rssJul 06 18:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-soylentnews.org | Humble Bundle Stops Purchasers from Giving Full Payment to Charity - SoylentNewsJul 06 18:58
AdmFubarhttps://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=21/07/03/1459222&from=rssJul 06 19:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-soylentnews.org | New, Deadly Bacteria May be Lurking in US; CDC Warns of Three Puzzling Cases - SoylentNewsJul 06 19:00
psyminthe linux foundation is cozy with amazon? :(Jul 06 19:00
MinceRit's cozy with any corporation that pays them enoughJul 06 19:01
techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▆▆▅▂▅▆▆▅▃▄▂▄▆▁▂▃▃▄▄▅▄▅▇▅▃▄▃▃▄▄▅▆▇▃▁ avg(k/sec) 30.93 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▂▁▂▁▂▁▁▂▁▁▁▁▂▁▁▂▁▂▁▂▁▂▁▁▂▁▁▁▂▁▂▂▁▁▁ avg(k/sec) 4.53▕ swarm size (avg): 303.60  ⟲Jul 06 19:01
MinceRAWS is a silver memberJul 06 19:02
immibiswait until you find out how much google contributes to the linux kernelJul 06 19:24
AriadnewaoJul 06 19:26
immibisTake note: his mental incapacity, both the inability to judge context and his psychopathy, are common to *all* socialists who are not already living in kibbutzim or communes. There aren't any who are any less mentally crippled than Librarian is demonstrating himself to be here.Jul 06 19:27
immibis<Librarian> If it's "false," why weren't y ou able to cite any dictionaries that supported your reversal of the definitions of "freedom" and "slavery?"Jul 06 19:27
immibiswhat reversalJul 06 19:27
immibispulling accusations out of your ass, again.  Take note: his mental incapacity, both the inability to judge context and his psychopathy, are common to *all* socialists who are not already living in kibbutzim or communes. There aren't any who are any less mentally crippled than Librarian is demonstrating himself to be here.Jul 06 19:28
techrights-news#microsoft #windows https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/kaseya-roughly-1-500-businesses-hit-by-revil-ransomware-attack/Jul 06 19:38
schestowitz[19:24] <immibis> wait until you find out how much google contributes to the linux kernelJul 06 19:40
schestowitzhttps://ubunlog.com/en/por-fin-se-eliminara-speck-el-cifrado-de-la-nsa-en-el-kernel-de-linux/Jul 06 19:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Will Speck, the NSA encryption in the Linux kernel, finally be removed? | UbunlogJul 06 19:40
schestowitzThanks, GoogleJul 06 19:41
DaemonFChttps://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/jul/01/nowhere-is-safe-say-scientists-as-extreme-heat-causes-chaos-in-us-and-canadaJul 06 19:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Nowhere is safe, say scientists as extreme heat causes chaos in US and Canada | Climate change | The GuardianJul 06 19:44
DaemonFC“Our thoughts are with people who have lost loved ones,” said Canada’s prime minister, Justin Trudeau, warning the blistering temperatures in a region of the country ill-prepared for such heat was a reminder of the need to address the climate crisis.Jul 06 19:44
DaemonFC---Jul 06 19:44
DaemonFCWasn't he recently saying how outrageous it was that the United States canceled the pipeline for their tar sands oil?Jul 06 19:44
DaemonFCAlso, greenwashing the project and making false claims about job numbers that have already been debunked.Jul 06 19:45
DaemonFCThe main source of pain at the gas pump in Illinois and Indiana recently has been the government increasing the gas taxes.Jul 06 19:45
DaemonFCBy 25 cents a gallon all at once in Indiana and by 40 cents per gallon in Illinois over the course of two fiscal years.Jul 06 19:46
DaemonFCThe federal government has been very stingy with roadd money and if states don't want to put up toll booths, they have to figure out ways to add electric vehicle use taxes and new gasoline taxes.Jul 06 19:47
DaemonFCAnd that hurts. It hurts working class people more because they're the ones who have no choice but to do in-person jobs.Jul 06 19:47
techrights-news"I'm pleased to announce first stable releases of pg_builder and pg_wrapper packages." https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/pg_builder-100-and-pg_wrapper-100-packages-for-php-released-2255/Jul 06 19:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.postgresql.org | PostgreSQL: pg_builder 1.0.0 and pg_wrapper 1.0.0 packages for PHP releasedJul 06 19:47
DaemonFCThe bank manager asked me earlier this year why I was so focused on a credit card with lots of cash back on gasoline, and I said "It might be relatively cheap now, but it won't be soon.Jul 06 19:48
DaemonFCWho was right? I was right.Jul 06 19:48
techrights-news#Xfce Development Reports • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153092 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJul 06 19:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Xfce Development Reports | Tux MachinesJul 06 19:48
DaemonFCWe're not much better off now, even with Mandy's raise, than we were during the Coronavirus lockdown, because I could run that old car all day long on gas that was $1.70.Jul 06 19:49
DaemonFCBut it's back up around $3.35 a gallon right now.Jul 06 19:49
DaemonFCAnd that's alongside inflation on other essentials.Jul 06 19:49
DaemonFCOh yeah, I need to call down to the car repair place and see if they got those parts in.Jul 06 19:50
immibisschestowitz: if someone actually requests this feature, there is nothing terribly wrong with having it as an optionJul 06 19:52
techrights-news#pgbuilder 1.0.0 and #pgwrapper 1.0.0 • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153093 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJul 06 19:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | pg_builder 1.0.0 and pg_wrapper 1.0.0 | Tux MachinesJul 06 19:52
immibisif someone working in the government space is mandated to use a backdoored cipher, they may as well use it through linux, instead of using a nonfree OSJul 06 19:52
DaemonFCschestowitz, Again, at least I put off those headlights. LOLJul 06 19:52
DaemonFCMy god those things are expensive for what they are.Jul 06 19:52
DaemonFCYou can't just replace the outer plastic. Jul 06 19:53
immibisit says google wanted to use it. Google would just write their own module anyway, if it wasn't upstreamJul 06 19:53
techrights-news#linuxfoundation paid-for puff piece from the usual sites http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153090#comment-30156Jul 06 19:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Foundation Pushing Microsoft Windows and Other Non-Linux Stuff | Tux MachinesJul 06 19:53
DaemonFCSo it was really no big loss when the wreck took those out. They were already getting water in them and fogging up and hazed.Jul 06 19:53
techrights-newsRed Hat Satellite 6.9.3 has been released ⚓ https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hat-satellite-693-has-been-released ䷉ #RedHat #IBM #GNU #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/07/06/#latestJul 06 19:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Red Hat Satellite 6.9.3 has been releasedJul 06 19:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media PostsJul 06 19:57
techrights-newsScaling the buzzwords https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/customer-success-stories-devops-scaleJul 06 19:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Customer success stories: DevOps at scaleJul 06 19:58
techrights-news#LibreOffice 8.0 UI Mockup • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153094 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJul 06 19:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LibreOffice 8.0 UI Mockup | Tux MachinesJul 06 19:58
techrights-news#Ubuntu 21.10 Release Date & Planned Features • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153095 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJul 06 19:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 21.10 Release Date & Planned Features | Tux MachinesJul 06 19:59
schestowitzGoogle <3 https://www.androidpolice.com/2021/06/28/linux-apps-are-finally-coming-to-skylake-chromebooks/Jul 06 20:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidpolice.com | Google waited way too long to bring Linux to older ChromebooksJul 06 20:00
techrights-newsPopular Open Source Tool Audacity in News Again, for all the Wrong Reasons http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153021#comment-30157Jul 06 20:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Audacity is now a Possible Spyware, Remove it ASAP | Tux MachinesJul 06 20:01
MinceRhttps://pleated-jeans.com/2021/05/04/we-want-plates-05-03-21/Jul 06 20:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleated-jeans.com | That's Great, But Can I Get My Food On, You Know, An Actual Plate? (17 Pics)Jul 06 20:02
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techrights-newsProtecting Your Online #Privacy : Three Levels of #Security https://www.tripwire.com/state-of-security/security-data-protection/protecting-your-online-privacy-levels-of-security/ fake advice/paths from #tripwire ... #DuckDuckGo gif Git ted tmp Seriously??? http://techrights.org/2021/03/15/duckduckgo-in-2021/Jul 06 20:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tripwire.com | Protecting Your Online Privacy: Three Levels of SecurityJul 06 20:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Why You Should Avoid DuckDuckGo (DDG) 2021 Edition, Now Microsoft-Hosted and With Extra Privacy Risks | TechrightsJul 06 20:04
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techrights-news"This is the 41st edition of the #Kafka Monthly Digest. In this edition, I’ll cover what happened in the Apache Kafka community in June 2021." https://developer.ibm.com/blogs/kafka-monthly-digest-2021-06/ #ibkJul 06 20:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developer.ibm.com | Kafka Monthly Digest – June 2021 – IBM DeveloperJul 06 20:04
techrights-newsWhat Should Be a Student’s First Programming Language? - The New Stack ⚓ https://thenewstack.io/what-should-be-a-students-first-programming-language/ ䷉ #thenewstack #programmingJul 06 20:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thenewstack.io | What Should Be a Student’s First Programming Language? – The New StackJul 06 20:05
techrights-news"It differs, however, in that #Fedora 24 (with Intel Graphics Driver), #Yocto Project, and standard #Linux have equal billing with #vista10 ." http://linuxgizmos.com/whiskey-lake-based-panel-pcs-prep-for-the-operating-room/Jul 06 20:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 520 @ http://linuxgizmos.com/whiskey-lake-based-panel-pcs-prep-for-the-operating-room/ )Jul 06 20:07
Librarian13:25 < Librarian> But, if all you have is more mental breakdowns in which you regurgitate my sentences as non-sequitur logical fallacies in contexts where they're meaningless, then we'll know you've been driven into cognitive dissonance that's caused a complete psychological break again. Up to you.Jul 06 20:07
techrights-news#suse shilling #proprietarySoftare for #sap again https://www.suse.com/c/technical-webinar-how-apiphani-delivers-a-superior-end-user-experience-for-sap-applications/ see http://techrights.org/2019/07/28/novell-suse-sap/Jul 06 20:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Technical Webinar: How apiphani delivers a superior end-user experience for SAP applications | SUSE CommunitiesJul 06 20:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | SUSE Said It Was Becoming Independent But Instead It Became Like an ‘Asset’ of SAP (‘German Microsoft’), Which is Hostile Towards Free Software | TechrightsJul 06 20:08
techrights-news#suse as a #sap #proprietarySoftware #marketing machine https://www.suse.com/c/suse-partners-with-colombina-to-drive-faster-access-to-business-insight-achieving-8-revenue-growth/ see http://techrights.org/2019/07/28/novell-suse-sap/Jul 06 20:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SUSE partners with Colombina to drive faster access to business insight, achieving 8% revenue growth | SUSE CommunitiesJul 06 20:09
techrights-newsGrowing a KDE Video Community: My Experiment //www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgvHmO1SPQw #kde #gnu #linuxJul 06 20:10
techrights-news"Remote sketchbook offers synchronization between the #Arduino IDE 2 beta and Arduino Clown. This powerful new feature now means you can work on your code from literally anywhere and everywhere." https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/07/06/work-on-your-arduino-sketches-from-anywhere-with-remote-sketchbook/Jul 06 20:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | Work on your Arduino sketches from anywhere with remote sketchbookJul 06 20:11
techrights-newsRAKwireless announces 14 new #WisBlock modules for IoT prototyping - CNX Software ⚓ https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/07/06/rakwireless-14-new-wisblock-modules-for-iot-prototyping/ ䷉ #Linux #GNU #Hardware #cnxsoftware | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/07/06/#latestJul 06 20:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | RAKwireless announces 14 new WisBlock modules for IoT prototyping - CNX SoftwareJul 06 20:13
techrights-news#Keyboardio Model 100 wooden keyboard runs open-source Arduino firmware (Crowdfunding) - CNX Software ⚓ https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/07/06/keyboardio-model-100-wooden-keyboard-runs-open-source-arduino-firmware/ ䷉ #Linux #GNU #Hardware #cnxsoftwareJul 06 20:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Keyboardio Model 100 wooden keyboard runs open-source Arduino firmware (Crowdfunding) - CNX SoftwareJul 06 20:14
techrights-news"In GTK4 the dedicated GtkToolbar is gone, replaced by GtkBox with a style of "toolbar". The spelling dialog now supports this conversion" http://caolanm.blogspot.com/2021/07/gtk4-adapting-to-toolbar-changes.html #GTK4 #LibreOfficeJul 06 20:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-caolanm.blogspot.com | Caolán McNamara: GTK4: Adapting to Toolbar changesJul 06 20:15
techrights-newsOnline meeting of the Spanish-speaking #LibreOffice community https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2021/07/06/online-meeting-of-the-spanish-speaking-libreoffice-community/Jul 06 20:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.documentfoundation.org | Online meeting of the Spanish-speaking LibreOffice community - The Document Foundation BlogJul 06 20:16
techrights-news"The #Ubuntu in the wild blog post ropes in the latest highlights about Ubuntu and Canonical around the world on a bi-weekly basis. It is a summary of all the things that made us feel proud to be part of this journey. What do you think of it?" https://ubuntu.com//blog/ubuntu-in-the-wild-11Jul 06 20:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ubuntu in the wild – 06th of July | UbuntuJul 06 20:17
techrights-newsDaniel Stenberg: curl reaches 100K raised https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2021/07/06/curl-reaches-100k-raised/ enough money to reduce dependence on #microsoft #proprietarysoftware #monopoly and #deletegithubJul 06 20:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-curl reaches 100K raised | daniel.haxx.seJul 06 20:18
techrights-newsWhy you need to use Kubernetes schema validation tools | ⚓ https://opensource.com/article/21/7/kubernetes-schema-validation ䷉ #FreeSW #RedHat #IBM #GNU #LinuxJul 06 20:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why you need to use Kubernetes schema validation tools | Opensource.comJul 06 20:18
techrights-newsEdit PDFs on the Linux command line | ⚓ https://opensource.com/article/21/7/qpdf-command-line ䷉ #FreeSW #RedHat #IBM #GNU #LinuxJul 06 20:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Edit PDFs on the Linux command line | Opensource.comJul 06 20:19
techrights-newsSend and receive #Gmail from the Linux command line | ⚓ https://opensource.com/article/21/7/gmail-linux-terminal ䷉ #FreeSW #RedHat #IBMJul 06 20:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Send and receive Gmail from the Linux command line | Opensource.comJul 06 20:19
techrights-news#EndlessOS #greenwashing https://tecnocode.co.uk/2021/07/06/how-your-organisations-equipment-policy-can-impact-the-environment/Jul 06 20:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tecnocode.co.uk | How your organisation’s equipment policy can impact the environment | Philip WithnallJul 06 20:21
techrights-newsIBM-funded publisher on IBM amid disarray http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152960#comment-30158 #bribery #ibm #zdnet #corruptmediaJul 06 20:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Jim Whitehurst Leaves IBM | Tux MachinesJul 06 20:24
techrights-newsMore #openwashing puff pieces from 'Linux' Foundation http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153090#comment-30159Jul 06 20:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Foundation Pushing Microsoft Windows and Other Non-Linux Stuff | Tux MachinesJul 06 20:26
techrights-newsWindows only = Linux Foundation http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153090#comment-30161Jul 06 20:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Foundation Pushing Microsoft Windows and Other Non-Linux Stuff | Tux MachinesJul 06 20:30
techrights-news#LibreOffice: QA, Spanish-speaking LibreOffice Community, and GTK4: • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153096 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJul 06 20:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LibreOffice: QA, Spanish-speaking LibreOffice Community, and GTK4: | Tux MachinesJul 06 20:38
techrights-newsToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153097 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJul 06 20:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesJul 06 20:39
techrights-newsMaster #TouchTyping on Linux With #KTouch • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153098 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJul 06 20:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Master Touch Typing on Linux With KTouch | Tux MachinesJul 06 20:39
techrights-news#italy #spain #BORINGJul 06 20:42
techrights-newsThese boards contain back doors. They CAN also have #linux on them, but the back doors cannot be removed/disabled. http://linuxgizmos.com/3-5-inch-tiger-lake-sbc-offers-quad-displays-2-5gbe-and-m-2-with-pcie-gen4/Jul 06 20:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 520 @ http://linuxgizmos.com/3-5-inch-tiger-lake-sbc-offers-quad-displays-2-5gbe-and-m-2-with-pcie-gen4/ )Jul 06 20:43
techrights-news#Virtuozzo VzLinux 8.4 Now Available • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153099 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJul 06 20:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Virtuozzo VzLinux 8.4 Now Available | Tux MachinesJul 06 20:43
techrights-news#canonical : people are dying, so buy our shit https://ubuntu.com//blog/finserv-open-source-infrastructure-powers-digital-transformationJul 06 20:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Finserv open source infrastructure powers digital transformation | UbuntuJul 06 20:44
techrights-news#rakulang #programming "A few commits ago #lizmat taught next to take an argument. I started to play with this and found that not all loops are created equal." https://gfldex.wordpress.com/2021/07/06/the-next-fast-thing/Jul 06 20:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gfldex.wordpress.com | The next fast thing | Playing Perl 6␛b6xA RakuJul 06 20:44
techrights-news#microsoft criminals cheated with the Orange Nazi https://www.wsj.com/articles/pentagon-plans-reboot-of-jedi-cloud-contract-11625589039Jul 06 20:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Pentagon Scraps JEDI in Win for Amazon at Microsoft’s Expense - WSJJul 06 20:46
techrights-newsThe way things are looking, #england has a good chance of finally bagging an international trophy. Bring the matches to #manchester though: http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/07/06/manchester-football/Jul 06 20:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Manchester is a Football Capital and Deserves to Hold More International Matches Than Wembley (London)Jul 06 20:49
techrights-news#ProprietarySoftware: Microsoft Catastrophes and More • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153100 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJul 06 20:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proprietary Software: Microsoft Catastrophes and More | Tux MachinesJul 06 20:49
techrights-newsWe're moving to fibre-optics at home later this month. Should help #techrights in a lot of ways: #ipfs #gemini video uploads etc.Jul 06 20:50
techrights-news#Ubuntu and #EndlessOS : ’Finservs’, Ubuntu in the Wild, and Endless OS Foundation • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153101 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJul 06 20:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu and Endless OS: 'Finservs', Ubuntu in the Wild, and Endless OS Foundation | Tux MachinesJul 06 20:56
techrights-news"Linux" means Windows when something called #linuxfoundation hijacks the brand http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Linux_FoundationJul 06 20:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation - TechrightsJul 06 20:56
techrights-newsConvert and Optimize #Ebooks in Linux - Linux Hint ⚓ https://linuxhint.com/convert-and-optimize-ebooks-in-linux/ ䷉ #LinuxHint #GNU #Linux 🐧 | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/07/06/#latestJul 06 20:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxhint.com | Convert and Optimize Ebooks in Linux – Linux HintJul 06 20:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media PostsJul 06 20:58
techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▅▄▅▅▆▂▇▅▆▅▆▅▅▅▅▅▄▄▄▅▄▃▃▃▂▅▄▆▁▁ avg(k/sec) 21.31 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▁▁▂▁▁▂▂▂▁▂▁▂▂▁▂▂▂▁▂▂▁▂▁▂▂▁▁▁▁▁▂▂▁▁ avg(k/sec) 5.11▕ swarm size (avg): 303.49  ⟲Jul 06 21:01
techrights-news#IBM / #RedHat Leftovers • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153102 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJul 06 21:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat Leftovers | Tux MachinesJul 06 21:03
MinceRhttps://donjon.ledger.com/kaspersky-password-manager/   https://twitter.com/matthew_d_green/status/1412411435842519049?s=19Jul 06 21:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-donjon.ledger.com | Kaspersky Password Manager: All your passwords are belong to us | DonjonJul 06 21:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@matthew_d_green: I was going to laugh off this Kaspersky password manager bug, but it is *amazing*. In the sense that I’ve never see… https://t.co/yEDG1zWpdyJul 06 21:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@matthew_d_green: I was going to laugh off this Kaspersky password manager bug, but it is *amazing*. In the sense that I’ve never see… https://t.co/yEDG1zWpdyJul 06 21:04
techrights-news#Kaspersky working for #putin https://donjon.ledger.com/kaspersky-password-manager/ https://twitter.com/matthew_d_green/status/1412411435842519049?s=19Jul 06 21:05
techrights-newsQuit using #proprietarySoftware and #clownComputing ... the only person with access to your passwords should be you... on your own machine, now "clown"Jul 06 21:05
techrights-newsThe biggest "clown" growth will be the moment laptops and desktops too are rebranded and reclaffieid #clownComputing ... and Vista+ChromeOS are close to thatJul 06 21:09
techrights-news#Devices With #Linux and #OpenHardware With Arduino • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153103 #TuxMachinesJul 06 21:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Devices With Linux and Open Hardware With Arduino | Tux MachinesJul 06 21:09
techrights-news#Mozilla Localization (L10N): Better Understanding Pontoon Notifications to Improve Them https://blog.mozilla.org/l10n/2021/07/06/better-understanding-pontoon-notifications-to-improve-them/Jul 06 21:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | Better Understanding Pontoon Notifications to Improve Them | Mozilla L10NJul 06 21:10
techrights-newsUnder #ibm #fedora became small: "In June, we published 15 posts. The site had 3,060 visits from 1,777 unique viewers. 108 visits came from Twitter, while 44 came from Fedora Planet, and 35 came from the WordPress Android App." https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/community-blog-monthly-summary-june-2021/Jul 06 21:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-communityblog.fedoraproject.org | Community Blog monthly summary: June 2021 – Fedora Community BlogJul 06 21:11
*koo6 (~koo6@89-24-13-235.customers.tmcz.cz) has joined #techrightsJul 06 21:12
DaemonFCWGN (or was it ABC 7....anyway) reported that Aunt Jemima's fake nasty pancake syrup is now Pearl Milling Company and that racism is over.Jul 06 21:13
DaemonFCAhhh, woke capitalism.Jul 06 21:13
techrights-newsArm chief hits out at 'ill-informed speculation' over proposed #Nvidia buyout • The Register ⚓ https://www.theregister.com/2021/07/05/arm_chief_nvidia_buyout/ ䷉ #theregister | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/07/06/#latestJul 06 21:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Arm chief hits out at 'ill-informed speculation' over proposed Nvidia buyout • The RegisterJul 06 21:13
DaemonFCI'm sure that mjg59 will be glad that fake pancake syrup, which is targeted mostly at low income blacks, and is a contributing factor to diabetes and obesity, is now renamed.Jul 06 21:13
MinceRand here i thought that renaming the master branch to "main" solved racism alreadyJul 06 21:14
MinceRit increasingly seems like it didn'tJul 06 21:14
MinceRso why did they do it?Jul 06 21:14
DaemonFCBecause everything is racist.Jul 06 21:14
DaemonFCAnd when you give a mouse a cookie, it'll want a glass of milk.Jul 06 21:15
MinceRtime to destroy the universe, thenJul 06 21:15
techrights-news#Windows perishing in servers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153100#comment-30164Jul 06 21:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proprietary Software: Microsoft Catastrophes and More | Tux MachinesJul 06 21:17
DaemonFChttps://www.wane.com/news/national-world/as-employers-struggle-to-fill-jobs-teens-come-to-the-rescue/Jul 06 21:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-As employers struggle to fill jobs, teens come to the rescue | WANE 15Jul 06 21:19
DaemonFCschestowitz, More "unbelievable economic miracle" narrative.Jul 06 21:20
DaemonFC"Foreign workers, brought in on J-1 work-and-study visas, typically filled many such summer jobs. But President Donald Trump suspended those visas as a coronavirus precaution, and the number of U.S.-issued J-1 visas tumbled 69% in the fiscal 2020 year — to 108,510, from 353,279 the year before.Jul 06 21:21
DaemonFCIn past years, for example, foreigners visiting the U.S. on visas took filled 180 summer jobs at Big Kahuna’s water park in Destin, Florida. Last year, there were just three. This year, eight. Desperate to attract local teens, Big Kahuna’s, which is owned by Boomers Parks, is now paying $12 an hour, up from less than $10 an hour in past years."Jul 06 21:21
techrights-news#Arduino gets AI framework, from #Fraunhofer http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153089#comment-30165 #deletegithubJul 06 21:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | AIfES for Arduino | Tux MachinesJul 06 21:21
DaemonFCWith a big side of "Immigrants took our jerbs. DERKA DERR!".Jul 06 21:21
techrights-newsProxmox Virtual Environment 7.0 Released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153091#comment-30166Jul 06 21:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proxmox Virtual Environment 7.0 released | Tux MachinesJul 06 21:22
techrights-news#HowTo Set Up a #RaspberryPi #WebServer in 2021 [Guide] | Beebom ⚓ https://beebom.com/how-set-up-raspberry-pi-web-server/ ䷉ #beebom | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/07/06/#latestJul 06 21:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How to Set Up a Raspberry Pi Web Server in 2021 [Guide] | BeebomJul 06 21:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media PostsJul 06 21:23
techrights-newsThis actually requires that the user fetches malicious software or uses an already-compromised machine https://www.hackread.com/redhat-debian-linux-distributions-darkradiation-ransomware/Jul 06 21:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.hackread.com | DarkRadiation ransomware targeting RedHat, Debian Linux distributionsJul 06 21:24
techrights-news#italy up against #spain , up one goal... probably easier for #england if it makes it to the final.Jul 06 21:26
techrights-news"Join Eva as she discusses growing up with cryptography, the troubling issue of stalkerware, how to get started in cybersecurity… " https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2021/07/05/s3-ep-39-5-a-conversation-with-eva-galperin-podcast/Jul 06 21:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nakedsecurity.sophos.com | S3 Ep 39.5: A conversation with Eva Galperin [Podcast] – Naked SecurityJul 06 21:27
techrights-news#proprietarySoftware https://www.theregister.com/2021/07/06/british_airways_data_breach_lawsuit_settled/Jul 06 21:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | British Airways data breach lawsuit settled: Airline coughs up potentially millions to make sueball bounce away • The RegisterJul 06 21:27
schestowitzDaemonFC: let's talk techJul 06 21:28
schestowitzyou've changed the subject a LOTJul 06 21:28
techrights-news#Security Leftovers • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153104 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJul 06 21:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux MachinesJul 06 21:33
techrights-newsToday’s #HowTos and #programming • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153105 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJul 06 21:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos and programming | Tux MachinesJul 06 21:33
DaemonFCI liked how the media connected Trump to a $2 an hour wage increase (by stoking racism and anti-immigrant sentiment) when the state of Illinois just passed a law that gave most people working jobs like that $5.Jul 06 21:34
DaemonFCLike, you know, they have to pay that to anyone who gets the job because....law.Jul 06 21:34
DaemonFCAnd they have the money. Even theme parks. I mean, they don't have to pay people $10 an hour. They make all kinds of money. You know how much markup they get on things? You pay for tickets an then you get there and they upsell you a "line skipper pass" and you go "Hey, that is a nice feature. If we pay these people more we won't have to stand behind those other people!" and then there's like $9 hot dogs and $5 Cokes and stuff.Jul 06 21:36
DaemonFCI don't know why people even go to amusement parks, honestly. Many are not built well. You see injuries and deaths in the news all the time, and they just get to keep running them like that anyway.Jul 06 21:37
DaemonFC"Wendy’s, which relies on teens to salt fries and ring up orders, added a way for applicants to apply for a job through their smartphones. Applicants are screened using artificial intelligence, which gets them to an interview faster than if they uploaded a resume. The idea is to hire them before another employer can."Jul 06 21:38
DaemonFCThere's on topic, schestowitz Jul 06 21:38
DaemonFCWendys hires people and the decider is Hey Hi!Jul 06 21:38
DaemonFCYou know what says "This business is all about people!"? Have a computer program decide if you're worth hiring or not!Jul 06 21:39
DaemonFCMy god, not even Walmart has gone there yet, but they're close. They have a mostly-online hiring process, but you still do an interview with an actual person.Jul 06 21:40
DaemonFCAlso, since when has a hamburger joint worried if someone else hires an applicant first?Jul 06 21:40
DaemonFCIf you had lots of options, you probably wouldn't be dropping an application at a hamburger joint.Jul 06 21:41
DaemonFCschestowitz, I think we should just make a collective agreement to regress technologically.Jul 06 21:41
DaemonFCNokia 3000 series phones, MP3 stores, in-person hiring....Jul 06 21:42
schestowitzDaemonFC: let's cooperate on some articleJul 06 21:42
schestowitzpick a topicJul 06 21:42
schestowitzenough of life gossipJul 06 21:42
schestowitzwe can make better use of this platformJul 06 21:42
schestowitzyou told me about another aspects of tech on car we should cover in a part 2Jul 06 21:43
schestowitzbut I forgot what it wasJul 06 21:43
DaemonFCWell, there's the insurance devices/apps that spy on you promising discounts and then that can backfire horribly.Jul 06 21:43
DaemonFCThey say in the tiny print you may save 10%, or you may pay 26% more.Jul 06 21:43
schestowitzyeahJul 06 21:43
schestowitzI don't know enough about itJul 06 21:43
DaemonFCThat's kind of a "You have more to lose than they do." proposition.Jul 06 21:43
schestowitzmy friend who's a uni prof told meJul 06 21:44
schestowitzyou get discounts to be spied onJul 06 21:44
schestowitzor conversely, they rip you off for NOT installing oneJul 06 21:44
DaemonFCI just don't believe my privacy is worth a 10% discount on some car insurance that probably costs me $900 a year.Jul 06 21:44
DaemonFCBut, in fact, it won't even be that.Jul 06 21:44
schestowitzcan you tell me if it's always "app"?Jul 06 21:44
DaemonFC10% is the most you can save. And you may pay a LOT more than if you'd never signed up.Jul 06 21:44
DaemonFCPut otherwise, "You might save up to $90, or you may pay up to $260 more per year if you put this device on your car, but either way you tell us all sorts of things about you.".Jul 06 21:45
schestowitzdo you get penalised for turning it off?Jul 06 21:45
schestowitzhow do they know you drive without it?Jul 06 21:45
DaemonFC<schestowitz> can you tell me if it's always "app"?Jul 06 21:46
DaemonFCWith Root it's an app, with Progressive or Geico it's either an app or a device plugged into the vehicle diagnostic port that you send back to them when they're done.Jul 06 21:46
DaemonFCThey say it goes for a test period, which is certainly true if you don't have the device anymore, but with an app....who really knows?Jul 06 21:46
DaemonFC<schestowitz> do you get penalised for turning it off?Jul 06 21:47
DaemonFCWith MetroMile, you pay by the mile, and you pay the maximum daily rate of 300 miles each day it's not plugged in.Jul 06 21:47
techrights-newsLinks 6/7/2021: Proxmox Virtual Environment 7.0 and Virtuozzo VzLinux 8.4 • тє¢няιﻭнтѕ ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/07/06/virtuozzo-vzlinux-8-4/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/07/06/virtuozzo-vzlinux-8-4/Jul 06 21:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 6/7/2021: Proxmox Virtual Environment 7.0 and Virtuozzo VzLinux 8.4 | TechrightsJul 06 21:47
DaemonFCAnd you have to leave it plugged in permanently with MetroMile, but they say if a mechanic or a smog testing site takes it out for a few hours, you're fine.Jul 06 21:48
DaemonFCJust make sure to get it back and plug it in again.Jul 06 21:48
schestowitzwowJul 06 21:48
schestowitzdo you do this?Jul 06 21:48
schestowitzit got a lot worse than when I last checked...Jul 06 21:48
DaemonFCI've done MetroMile before with the Crown Victoria when I lived in Chicago and barely drove.Jul 06 21:48
schestowitzit's like those proctoring malware things...Jul 06 21:48
DaemonFCI mostly paid the base rate of like $15 a month at that time but 2.2 cents per mile (daily cap of 300 miles billed...they stop charging affter that).Jul 06 21:48
DaemonFCSo my bills worked out to like $20 a month or so.Jul 06 21:49
schestowitzdo you know some articles about this?Jul 06 21:49
schestowitzesp. the legal aspects?Jul 06 21:49
DaemonFCAt the time, the other insurers wanted like $80+ for minimum coverage, so it was a substantial savings.Jul 06 21:49
schestowitzand the ethical issues?Jul 06 21:49
schestowitzI saw noneJul 06 21:49
DaemonFC<schestowitz> how do they know you drive without it?Jul 06 21:49
schestowitz(our last article was well received)Jul 06 21:49
DaemonFCThe OBD II port maintains power to the device.Jul 06 21:50
techrights-newsToday’s 🅣🅤🅧 🅜🅐🅒🅗🅘🅝🅔🅢 Leftovers • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153106 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJul 06 21:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesJul 06 21:50
DaemonFCIt wakes up and talks to them over the cell network every so often and then goes back to sleep.Jul 06 21:50
schestowitzhorribleJul 06 21:50
DaemonFCSo it's plugged into your car and it's hooked up to the cell network.Jul 06 21:50
DaemonFCIt has an LTE modem in each unit.Jul 06 21:51
DaemonFCIf you cancel your policy they send you a device return kit, postage paid, and you get 30 days to get it back, or pay a $150 penalty.Jul 06 21:51
DaemonFC<schestowitz> and the ethical issues?Jul 06 21:52
DaemonFCWell, at the time I used it, their privacy policy said that they didn't sell your data to others, but privacy policies change all the time, and most include a clause that they either don't have to inform you and that by continuing to use it under a revision to the policy you agree to the new one.Jul 06 21:53
DaemonFCOr they'll slip you a notification like Comcast did this month.Jul 06 21:53
DaemonFCHey, we're putting in a forced arbitration clause on all our customers, and if you use Comcast past July 3rd, you agree.Jul 06 21:53
DaemonFCUnless you're constantly paying attention for subtle changes to privacy policies for everything you use, a lot of the time you'll miss important changes which are not good for you. Microsoft does this.Jul 06 21:54
schestowitzYes, thanksJul 06 21:55
schestowitzI will work with your notesJul 06 21:55
DaemonFC<schestowitz> esp. the legal aspects?Jul 06 21:55
schestowitzit fascinates me media never covers this (that I know of)Jul 06 21:55
DaemonFCInsurance laws vary by state, and so what these companies do is they find states that they can easily work in and only offer policies there, or tweak them a little for that state.Jul 06 21:55
techrights-newsGNU has died. https://kduz.com/2021/07/06/gary-gnu-koll/Jul 06 21:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Gary “Gnu” Koll | KDUZJul 06 21:56
DaemonFCIn big rural states with bad public transit, there's no point to MetroMile even offering policies there. People in Texas drive all over the place. Gas is cheap. The state is huge. There's no bus.Jul 06 21:56
DaemonFCOr if there is a bus, it's what you'd expect for a red state city.Jul 06 21:56
DaemonFCMetroMile promotes itself as something that saves you money and nudges you to use the public transit.Jul 06 21:57
DaemonFCBecause if you get around Chicago with the public transit, you're paying them less in car insurance, it's less risk for both of you, and you're saving gas, but you keep the car for when you do need to drive it somewhere.Jul 06 21:58
DaemonFCschestowitz, There's really no reason for me not to use the public transit to get to Chicago and back. I mean, freeway car accidents are horrific. It's extremely unpleasant to drive in a big city.Jul 06 21:58
techrights-news#Audacity's user data collection causing consternation http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153021#comment-30167Jul 06 21:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Audacity is now a Possible Spyware, Remove it ASAP | Tux MachinesJul 06 21:59
DaemonFCBut Waukegan is far enough away from Chicago that it has a transit system, but it's not great.Jul 06 21:59
DaemonFCSo the commuter rail into the city and then the city's system to get where I'm going from there is the way to go with Chicago or if I need to go to one of its inner suburbs. Jul 06 21:59
DaemonFCI can just get to the Metra station and then use it as a hub or go to one of the others and continue out from there.Jul 06 22:00
DaemonFCIt takes longer, but I mean, it's not pleasant to drive. I don't like to drive.Jul 06 22:00
DaemonFCWith the high gas prices, you probably shouldn't take the car out of town anyway.Jul 06 22:00
schestowitzthanks for the infoJul 06 22:00
schestowitzI'll start writingJul 06 22:00
DaemonFCYep.Jul 06 22:01
DaemonFCOne of my doctors is still doing Zoom and my other one is in Chicago at off a CTA brown line stop.Jul 06 22:01
DaemonFCSo I mean, for now I'm good. Just set up a video call or take the Metra down there for appointments.Jul 06 22:01
schestowitzsome shrinks also use 'online' stuffJul 06 22:01
DaemonFCI can't stand driving in Chicago, but I so don't want to go find another doctor.Jul 06 22:02
schestowitzin NHS some do stuff over the phoneJul 06 22:02
DaemonFCEspecially a lot of the newer ones. Complete hacks.Jul 06 22:02
schestowitzwhere possible... and ask to send photos etc to emailJul 06 22:02
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DaemonFCAs for the Wendy's hiring by "AI" bullshit, that's all it is. Bullshit.Jul 06 22:04
DaemonFCIt's a low wage job with lots of burn and churn.Jul 06 22:04
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DaemonFCThey figured out a way to weed through people faster and they think they have it down to a process like assembling a hamburger, but in reality I doubt it will work as well.Jul 06 22:05
DaemonFCI don't know what kind of company would hire someone sight unseen. This all rather sounds like some kind of setup drawn up by a sociopath.Jul 06 22:06
CParadoxum_"AI"/"ML"/"Big Data"Jul 06 22:07
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CParadoxum_It's all modern snake-oilJul 06 22:07
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CParadoxum_In reality, at-best, it is statistics.Jul 06 22:07
CParadoxum_And badly-done for the most partJul 06 22:07
techrights-newsTIL Jorginho is also Italian https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jorginho_(footballer,_born_December_1991)Jul 06 22:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Jorginho (footballer, born December 1991) - WikipediaJul 06 22:08
DaemonFCI had basically no idea what I was getting myself into with Mandy. It's like peeling back an onion. I'm amazed that he can project being so well adjusted considering family background.Jul 06 22:08
DaemonFCFrom what I can tell, the world is better off for the fact that his dad died a long time ago.Jul 06 22:08
DaemonFCYesterday, he was describing his dad killing dogs with boards and the sounds the dogs would make as they died in the back yard.Jul 06 22:09
DaemonFCThen his dad would cook them up.Jul 06 22:09
CParadoxum_jeezJul 06 22:09
DaemonFCMandy said he would go hungry and refuse to eat it.Jul 06 22:09
schestowitz[22:04] <DaemonFC> As for the Wendy's hiring by "AI" bullshit, that's all it is. Bullshit.Jul 06 22:10
DaemonFCFrom the look on his face and the crying I believe it happened.Jul 06 22:10
schestowitzless acccountabilityJul 06 22:10
schestowitzthey blame "computer"Jul 06 22:10
schestowitznot racist... or sexist... blame naughty hey hiJul 06 22:10
schestowitzsame thing the censorship companies doJul 06 22:10
DaemonFCSo do you suppose that the hiring "AI" is designed with bias?Jul 06 22:10
DaemonFCI mean, it's probably something they paid for. Not developed in house. Like, here, do this and then don't tell us you did this.Jul 06 22:11
DaemonFCPlausible deniability.Jul 06 22:11
DaemonFCI wonder how that complies with Ban the Box laws like we have in Illinois.Jul 06 22:12
*schestowitz perturbed by the dog story, even if it's just textJul 06 22:13
DaemonFCThe law says that they can't check your criminal history until they've offered you the job and done an interview, but then they can retract the job offer at that point if they state the reason as being a criminal background.Jul 06 22:13
DaemonFC* schestowitz perturbed by the dog story, even if it's just textJul 06 22:13
DaemonFCIt could explain a lot of Maricel's behaviors too.Jul 06 22:13
CParadoxum_DaemonFC: All AI is biasedJul 06 22:13
DaemonFCDifferent reactions to trauma. There's no telling what that asshole did to her.Jul 06 22:13
CParadoxum_It is the modus operandi thereof to an extentJul 06 22:14
DaemonFCHe chained Mandy up in his bedroom so he couldn't go outside.Jul 06 22:14
techrights-newsItaly 1-1 Spain, but #italy is all curled up like an embryo or frightened toddler, knowing that only penalties give them hope at this stage. Italy in the final = better for #englandJul 06 22:14
DaemonFCWell, the whole point of ban the box, I think, is so that a job interviewer has to give you a chance to make a good impression before they see your conviction history.Jul 06 22:15
DaemonFCAnd that law cannot possibly be obeyed by a computerized hiring process with no interviewer.Jul 06 22:15
schestowitzDaemonFC: better than incest http://techrights.org/2021/05/23/illusion-of-peace-in-haar/Jul 06 22:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EPO’s War on Justice and Assault on the Law — Part 18: Promoting the Illusion of Peace and Haar-mony | TechrightsJul 06 22:16
DaemonFCSo I mean, if Wendys uses this in ban the box states, then they're really flirting with a huge lawsuit and fines.Jul 06 22:16
DaemonFCAnd I just wouldn't think it would be worth that.Jul 06 22:16
techrights-newsJurgen Klinsmann working for #billBC now?Jul 06 22:17
DaemonFChttp://techrights.org/2021/07/06/audacity-diplomacy/Jul 06 22:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Audacity Situation Needs More Diplomacy and Less Mob Mentality (We Can Probably Remove the Malicious Features Without Forking) | TechrightsJul 06 22:19
DaemonFCschestowitz, They have trademarks, so you'd have to remove the malware and call it something else.Jul 06 22:19
DaemonFCBut, it wouldn't be difficult to put in a metapackage that calls whatever you named the other program.Jul 06 22:20
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DaemonFCschestowitz, There was an article about buying a used 2007 Chevy truck and yanking out a hard drive and finding out tons of info about the previous owner that wasn't wiped.Jul 06 22:21
schestowitzthanks, will addJul 06 22:22
DaemonFCI'll try to find it later.Jul 06 22:22
DaemonFCVehicles themselves have been doing quite a lot of spying for a while now.Jul 06 22:22
DaemonFCThe OnStar Button in the 2003 Impala still works.Jul 06 22:23
DaemonFCThe law requires them to call emergency services if you press it and ask for it. They can still tell where you are.Jul 06 22:23
DaemonFCschestowitz, I managed to find parts to fix most of the impact damage.Jul 06 22:25
DaemonFCThank goodness that stupid Toyota that hit me rode so low to the ground.Jul 06 22:25
DaemonFCAbout another inch up and it would have screwed up my fender too.Jul 06 22:26
schestowitzhttp://sportyradar.blogspot.com/p/italy-matches-live-stream-free.htmlJul 06 22:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sportyradar.blogspot.com | Italy Matches Live Stream FreeJul 06 22:30
schestowitzliveJul 06 22:30
schestowitzpenalty shootoutJul 06 22:30
DaemonFCI really hope this Zoom Court shit is over by September.Jul 06 22:30
DaemonFCIf those two bastards want to show up I'd rather it be more difficult than less.Jul 06 22:31
DaemonFCZoom really has made it easy for the court system to run a rocket docket.Jul 06 22:31
DaemonFCThat's why I'm worried that now that they can run traffic court as a conviction mill they won't ever give it up.Jul 06 22:31
DaemonFCThe Incredibly Deadly Viper (Delta Variant ZOMG!!!111one) is out there after all. https://aaseriesofunfortunateevents.fandom.com/wiki/Incredibly_Deadly_ViperJul 06 22:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-aaseriesofunfortunateevents.fandom.com | Incredibly Deadly Viper | A series of unfortunate events Wiki | FandomJul 06 22:33
DaemonFCThe "news" has gone about trying to stoke panic about "Delta Variant" flare ups, while also admitting that it's really not killing people who have been vaccinated.Jul 06 22:35
DaemonFCIt's amazing how they can run bullshit like this all the time, isn't it?Jul 06 22:35
schestowitzDaemonFC: http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/patrick-wallet.jpgJul 06 22:42
schestowitzDaemonFC: their media tactics are not helpingJul 06 22:45
schestowitzbecause, 1) they make them look not honestJul 06 22:45
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schestowitz2) they make some people feel like vaccines they received are not sort of "invalid" or "expired"Jul 06 22:46
schestowitzthere are more things I wrote about thatJul 06 22:46
schestowitzbut it's OT anywayJul 06 22:46
schestowitzDaemonFC:  does this look OK to you? http://techrights.org/2021/07/06/automobile-privacy-tax/Jul 06 22:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Today’s Cars Have a ‘Privacy Tax’ | TechrightsJul 06 22:56
schestowitzseems like you have extensive knowledge about those things, unlike me...Jul 06 22:56
techrights-newsOh, gosh. Why does Josh Landau of #ccia participate in #watchtroll h His predecessor vanished from #PatentProgress after engaging with these #patent extremists...Jul 06 22:57
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techrights-newsFirst article on the attempt by #epo to break the #law and then do "legal fudge" http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/07/vico-oral-proceedings-on-legality-of.html see http://techrights.org/2021/06/26/g-121-epo-catastrophe/Jul 06 22:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | ViCo oral proceedings on the legality of ViCo oral proceedings - G1/21, The Sequel - The IPKatJul 06 22:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | G 1/21 is a Catastrophe for the EPO’s Legitimacy | TechrightsJul 06 22:59
techrights-newsTotally doable for #england to beat #denmark and #italy instead of something like #spain and #franceJul 06 23:00
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techrights-newsChina's electric VW Beetle knockoff shows up in #patent images https://www.autoblog.com/2021/07/06/vw-beetle-knockoff-china-great-wall-ora-punk-cat/ #china #patentsJul 06 23:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-China's electric Volkswagen Beetle knock-off shows up in patent images | AutoblogJul 06 23:01
techrights-newsToday’s Cars Have a ’ #Privacy Tax’ • тє¢няιﻭнтѕ ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/07/06/automobile-privacy-tax/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/07/06/automobile-privacy-tax/Jul 06 23:11
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techrights-newsGNU/Linux Advocacy Over the Years (or Why You Should Advocate GNU More Than Linux) http://techrights.org/2021/07/06/on-gnu-linux-advocacy/ #gnu #linux #freesw #kernel #torvaldsJul 06 23:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | GNU/Linux Advocacy Over the Years (or Why You Should Advocate GNU More Than Linux) | TechrightsJul 06 23:48
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techrights-news#GNU in #India (2008): How GIMP Changed Mani’s Life • тє¢няιﻭнтѕ ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/07/06/gimp-video/ ䷉ #Techrights #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/07/06/gimp-video/Jul 06 23:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | GNU in India (2008): How GIMP Changed Mani’s Life | TechrightsJul 06 23:53
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techrights-newsThe lustre of the appeal associated with driving is mostly gone for those who value their #humanrights and general dignity • тє¢няιﻭнтѕ ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/07/06/automobile-privacy-tax/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/07/06/automobile-privacy-tax/Jul 06 23:56

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