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| schestowitz | Re: how Free is FOSDEM? | Oct 13 00:12 |
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| schestowitz | > They started censoring the list after my post, look at these headers | Oct 13 00:12 |
| schestowitz | > from a message that appeared today, it was posted 9 October but only | Oct 13 00:12 |
| schestowitz | > appeared today | Oct 13 00:12 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 13 00:12 |
| schestowitz | > So much for that Nobel Peace Prize for Freedom of Expression | Oct 13 00:12 |
| schestowitz | Hack-a-Day did the same thing recently. | Oct 13 00:12 |
| schestowitz | It's a sensitive subject. | Oct 13 00:12 |
| schestowitz | Think of it this way; they don't worry about what YOU say but what the topic you brought up might lead OTHERS to say. | Oct 13 00:12 |
| schestowitz | TheLayoff.com did the same last week in the IBM boards. I quit posting links to that site after that. | Oct 13 00:12 |
| schestowitz | Sensitive subject. Brings out many k00ks out from the woodwork, so they prefer to leave that OFF-list. | Oct 13 00:12 |
| schestowitz | When someone mentioned it to me regarding Hack-a-Day (with evidence of deletions) I could almost sympathise because in IRC the subject of COVID routinely gets brought up and there's always the change of some idiot posting truly ridiculous things. | Oct 13 00:12 |
| schestowitz | I saw that in Hack-a-Day. | Oct 13 00:12 |
| schestowitz | ---- | Oct 13 00:14 |
| schestowitz | sorry IRC was quiet this past half day | Oct 13 00:14 |
| schestowitz | I finish work in 45 mins | Oct 13 00:14 |
| schestowitz | also, we had some outages yesterday, mostly in our home | Oct 13 00:15 |
| schestowitz | there's no way to get around or prevent these, not an easy way anway | Oct 13 00:15 |
| schestowitz | at least the main Web site suffered no outages | Oct 13 00:15 |
| schestowitz | re COVID: | Oct 13 00:15 |
| schestowitz | better to post that in #boycotnovell-social | Oct 13 00:16 |
| schestowitz | or #techpol | Oct 13 00:16 |
| schestowitz | to avoid silly debates on whether digesting some horseshit [sic] is a good idea | Oct 13 00:16 |
| schestowitz | the debate can start reasonable | Oct 13 00:16 |
| schestowitz | but then someone can interject nonsense | Oct 13 00:16 |
| schestowitz | the google trolls who stalks us here than lies about us in Twitter | Oct 13 00:17 |
| schestowitz | people don't check if a tweet is true | Oct 13 00:17 |
| schestowitz | they "like" and/or pass on | Oct 13 00:17 |
| schestowitz | and some idiots think that a site not outsourcing to Linux Foundation is the EQUIVALENT of "anto-vaxx" | Oct 13 00:17 |
| schestowitz | (I kid you not; would not link though) | Oct 13 00:18 |
| schestowitz | all days of this month we'll focus on EPO scandals | Oct 13 00:18 |
| schestowitz | they help expose corruption in other institutions across Europe | Oct 13 00:18 |
| schestowitz | After Switzerland we show France/INPI | Oct 13 00:18 |
| schestowitz | Then Portugal and Spain | Oct 13 00:19 |
| schestowitz | Then Austria, tons of corruption there also | Oct 13 00:19 |
| schestowitz | 17 PDFs more by the weekend | Oct 13 00:19 |
| schestowitz | with translations | Oct 13 00:19 |
| schestowitz | e.g. http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/15-Rödler-Press-Release-March-2007.pdf abd http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/15-Parliamentary-Inquiry-No.-2-Oct-2009.pdf | Oct 13 00:20 |
| schestowitz | that one is for this coming weekend, likely Sunday | Oct 13 00:20 |
| schestowitz | Ariadne: lies are being spread about us in Techrights, just a headsup | Oct 13 00:21 |
| schestowitz | "us in Techrights" as in the channel | Oct 13 00:21 |
| schestowitz | social control media spreads falsehoods | Oct 13 00:21 |
| schestowitz | "shoot the messenger" tactics almost always mean that the substance cannot be refuted | Oct 13 00:22 |
| schestowitz | so an alternative strategy is embraced | Oct 13 00:22 |
| schestowitz | on the upside, in gemini:// we now serve around 20k pages a day | Oct 13 00:23 |
| schestowitz | nowhere near as much as http/s | Oct 13 00:23 |
| schestowitz | but it seems like there are parallel protocols for dissemination of the underlying information | Oct 13 00:24 |
| schestowitz | maybe we'll move to openwrt at home, but that's a big project and puts at risk support from the ISP | Oct 13 00:24 |
| schestowitz | "you're on your own now.." | Oct 13 00:24 |
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| schestowitz-TR2 | DaemonFC: don't provoke GoogleTroll | Oct 13 00:25 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | not worth it | Oct 13 00:25 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | ignore | Oct 13 00:25 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | focus on the issues | Oct 13 00:25 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | the technical arguments have been solid | Oct 13 00:26 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | they won't try to respond to our articles | Oct 13 00:26 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | instead, stalking in IRC to deamonise [pub] the messengers | Oct 13 00:26 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | carry on blogging | Oct 13 00:27 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | the GNOME Web thing merits a mention | Oct 13 00:27 |
| schestowitz | 110% propaganda: https://www.iam-media.com/law-policy/can-the-epo-hold-its-world-leading-reputation-quality-in-new-normal | Oct 13 00:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.iam-media.com | Can the EPO hold on to its world-leading reputation for quality in a ‘new normal’? | IAM | Oct 13 00:29 | |
| schestowitz | quality has not been world-leading for 5+ years | Oct 13 00:29 |
| schestowitz | and it's not "new normal" that puts that at isk | Oct 13 00:29 |
| schestowitz | it's corruption and miscommunication | Oct 13 00:29 |
| schestowitz | IAM is paid by EPO to drop this BS | Oct 13 00:29 |
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| schestowitz-TR2 | hi, nicker | Oct 13 00:36 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | new here? | Oct 13 00:36 |
| nicker | nope, just visiting | Oct 13 00:36 |
| nicker | wondering why altlink gone - did you kicked her? | Oct 13 00:37 |
| Ariadne | lies such as? | Oct 13 00:37 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | nicker: no, why? | Oct 13 00:38 |
| nicker | thanks for the info | Oct 13 00:38 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | Ariadne: never mind if you didn't notice, it's only coming from one person | Oct 13 00:38 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | nicker: I wondered the same thing in fact | Oct 13 00:38 |
| nicker | I'm not saying you are lying | Oct 13 00:38 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | tbh, I have no clue who is behind that bot | Oct 13 00:39 |
| nicker | Mastodon version is fine: https://mamot.fr/@altlink | Oct 13 00:39 |
| nicker | Crimeflare | Oct 13 00:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-🙅🌩🔗 (@altlink@mamot.fr) - La Quadrature du Net - Mastodon - Media Fédéré | Oct 13 00:39 | |
| schestowitz-TR2 | but some of us like that, wish it could be fused into one single line | Oct 13 00:39 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and maybe IRC "notice" | Oct 13 00:39 |
| nicker | > wish it could be fused into one single line | Oct 13 00:39 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | to improve readability | Oct 13 00:39 |
| nicker | ^ good suggestion! I'll forward it | Oct 13 00:39 |
| nicker | here, https://git.disroot.org/dCF/deCloudflare/src/branch/master/subfiles/service.altlink_irc.md | Oct 13 00:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.disroot.org | dCF/deCloudflare: The Great Cloudwall / Stop Cloudflare / #deCloudflare #GreatCloudwall #Crimeflare - subfiles/service.altlink_irc.md at master - deCloudflare - Gitea: Git with a cup of tea | Oct 13 00:40 | |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I like gitea | Oct 13 00:40 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | main issue is, many dependencies | Oct 13 00:40 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | for small projects it's a lot of maintenance overhead | Oct 13 00:40 |
| nicker | if you're on debian, it's just "apt install gitea" | Oct 13 00:40 |
| Ariadne | i mean it seems to me like you all could just not discuss mjg59 | Oct 13 00:40 |
| schestowitz | fwiw, someone set up a #deCloudflare channel on this network | Oct 13 00:41 |
| Ariadne | if you don’t like how he portrays your discussions about him (much of which i find vile really) then that’s one thing, but i don’t see any “lie” there | Oct 13 00:41 |
| nicker | really? never heard of that channel | Oct 13 00:41 |
| Ariadne | those things were in fact said about him on the irc chat | Oct 13 00:41 |
| schestowitz | Ariadne: yes, I keep stressing it's best to ignore | Oct 13 00:41 |
| schestowitz | the person | Oct 13 00:41 |
| schestowitz | and focus on the substance | Oct 13 00:42 |
| schestowitz | one person keeps bringing up the person | Oct 13 00:42 |
| nicker | well, we always (for real) getting attacked by pro-cf users and supporters so it's not a surprise to me. | Oct 13 00:42 |
| schestowitz | it's not even our topic here | Oct 13 00:43 |
| Ariadne | like 50% of the chat here is complaining about systemd, it’s author, boneheaded decisions GNOME made a decade ago, mjg59 trying to make linux work better with UEFI, … | Oct 13 00:43 |
| schestowitz | I think this is why MinceR muted him | Oct 13 00:43 |
| Ariadne | i’m here for the software patents | Oct 13 00:43 |
| schestowitz | we talk about NSA one moment | Oct 13 00:43 |
| MinceR | yes, say nothing ill about saint garrett, prophet of microsoft | Oct 13 00:43 |
| schestowitz | then someone starts talking about sex and stuff | Oct 13 00:43 |
| schestowitz | Ariadne: almost all articles this month are exclusives about patents | Oct 13 00:43 |
| schestowitz | this is what we focused on since 2006 (Novell) | Oct 13 00:44 |
| Ariadne | all i’m saying is that it’s very easy to get off course and start focusing on shit that is largely irrelevant | Oct 13 00:44 |
| MinceR | 13 013927 < nicker> > wish it could be fused into one single line | Oct 13 00:44 |
| schestowitz | I think there are clear attempts to derail | Oct 13 00:44 |
| schestowitz | one method is | Oct 13 00:44 |
| schestowitz | 1. interject some conroversial subject | Oct 13 00:44 |
| MinceR | also, if the bot sends it as a NOTICE (as RFC 1459 suggests), other bots won't respond to it | Oct 13 00:44 |
| schestowitz | 2. force other people to talk about (1) | Oct 13 00:44 |
| schestowitz | 3. wait for someone to say something vile | Oct 13 00:44 |
| Ariadne | talking shit about mjg59 does not keep things focused on software freedom, and the attacks on it from patent trolls and corporations | Oct 13 00:44 |
| MinceR | so we won't get an extra title reply which is the same as the first | Oct 13 00:45 |
| schestowitz | 4. call the whole site vile (over something not related to the site's topic) | Oct 13 00:45 |
| schestowitz | Ariadne: yes, that's why MinceR muted him | Oct 13 00:45 |
| MinceR | mjg59 is mentioned because of the attacks on freedom he facilitates | Oct 13 00:45 |
| schestowitz | it's clear what the troll tries to accomplish here | Oct 13 00:45 |
| Ariadne | anyway i’m here for UPC coverage and EPO etc | Oct 13 00:45 |
| schestowitz | and why he still hangs around | Oct 13 00:45 |
| schestowitz | Ariadne: thanks | Oct 13 00:45 |
| schestowitz | we have lots coming this month | Oct 13 00:45 |
| schestowitz | I want to focus 90% of my time on this | Oct 13 00:46 |
| schestowitz | and devote the site to the current EPO crisis | Oct 13 00:46 |
| nicker | starting up fixed version... | Oct 13 00:46 |
| schestowitz | ah | Oct 13 00:46 |
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| schestowitz | you are the operator of the altlink bot? | Oct 13 00:46 |
| nicker | everyone has access | Oct 13 00:47 |
| nicker | https://emsisoft.com/blog/ | Oct 13 00:47 |
| altlink_6fa | 📣 Cloudflare: emsisoft.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://emsisoft.com/blog/ | Oct 13 00:47 |
| schestowitz | oh, I see | Oct 13 00:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.emsisoft.com | Emsisoft | Security Blog: Straight-talking security advice from the Malware Experts | Oct 13 00:47 | |
| schestowitz | so it's a service as such | Oct 13 00:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://web.archive.org/web/https://emsisoft.com/blog/ ) | Oct 13 00:47 | |
| nicker | https://git.disroot.org/dCF/deCloudflare/src/branch/master/subfiles/service.altlink_irc.md | Oct 13 00:47 |
| nicker | other IRCs are kicking tor | Oct 13 00:47 |
| schestowitz | :) .md | Oct 13 00:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.disroot.org | dCF/deCloudflare: The Great Cloudwall / Stop Cloudflare / #deCloudflare #GreatCloudwall #Crimeflare - subfiles/service.altlink_irc.md at master - deCloudflare - Gitea: Git with a cup of tea | Oct 13 00:47 | |
| schestowitz | markdown like some other software | Oct 13 00:47 |
| schestowitz | and their GUI also copies something | Oct 13 00:47 |
| schestowitz | but anyway, whatever gets people off of Microsoft's proprietary trap and GPL violations machine | Oct 13 00:48 |
| nicker | oh, and you can send PM (personal message) to altlink to create anonymous issue when we are not visiting | Oct 13 00:48 |
| schestowitz | thanks | Oct 13 00:49 |
| schestowitz | we'll be more actively shortly, I'm wrapping up a shift at work atm | Oct 13 00:49 |
| nicker | I gotta go, it's almost night here | Oct 13 00:50 |
| schestowitz | 20,000 commits?? | Oct 13 00:50 |
| nicker | yep | Oct 13 00:50 |
| schestowitz | are they adding domain names? | Oct 13 00:50 |
| schestowitz | https://git.disroot.org/dCF/deCloudflare/commits/branch/master | Oct 13 00:50 |
| nicker | what domain? | Oct 13 00:50 |
| nicker | http://crimeflare.eu.org | Oct 13 00:50 |
| schestowitz | I mean lots of changes | Oct 13 00:50 |
| schestowitz | "19384 Commits (master) " | Oct 13 00:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.disroot.org | dCF/deCloudflare - deCloudflare - Gitea: Git with a cup of tea | Oct 13 00:51 | |
| nicker | ah, it's a result of daily, 365 days, of history | Oct 13 00:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.disroot.org | dCF/deCloudflare: The Great Cloudwall / Stop Cloudflare / #deCloudflare #GreatCloudwall #Crimeflare - README.md at master - deCloudflare - Gitea: Git with a cup of tea | Oct 13 00:51 | |
| schestowitz | makes sense now | Oct 13 00:51 |
| nicker | CFE is now 5-6 years now | Oct 13 00:51 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | when we suffer DDOS attacks people tell us, move to clownflare | Oct 13 00:52 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | as if that's a solution | Oct 13 00:52 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | it's part of the problem | Oct 13 00:52 |
| nicker | well we do block VPS on our servers (except Tor and VPN users) | Oct 13 00:52 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and each year more traffic gets routed via this publicly-traded (Wall Street) clown sieve | Oct 13 00:52 |
| nicker | lists data is located in /tools/useful_ip_list iirc | Oct 13 00:53 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR2, This is turning into a long one. | Oct 13 00:53 |
| DaemonFC | About how I started using GNOME daily because of the Yoga 900. | Oct 13 00:53 |
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| nicker | night night ;) | Oct 13 00:54 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | 0/ | Oct 13 00:54 |
| DaemonFC | And how it's taken this long for HiDPI support in GNU/Linux to evolve to the point where you have more than one choice if you have such hardware. | Oct 13 00:54 |
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| schestowitz-TR2 | DaemonFC: ah, OK, work in progress | Oct 13 00:54 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I run old gnome3/shell on a laptop | Oct 13 00:54 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I'm not loving it | Oct 13 00:54 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | but it's not as bad as Windows | Oct 13 00:54 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | my xfce machine has uptime of 200+ days now | Oct 13 00:55 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | xfce is very good for some things | Oct 13 00:55 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and some people accuse us of giving "too much choice" | Oct 13 00:55 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | "too many cars!!" | Oct 13 00:55 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | trucks, jeeps, vans.. | Oct 13 00:55 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | too many!! | Oct 13 00:55 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | We need a "universal car!!" | Oct 13 00:56 |
| psydruid | it's a ridiculous argument by people with an agenda | Oct 13 00:56 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | a truck for every family | Oct 13 00:56 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | just in case they need to move homes | Oct 13 00:56 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | then they can use the family truck | Oct 13 00:56 |
| psydruid | I used different DEs on different hardware | Oct 13 00:56 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I used 4 different ones at the moment, even 5 | Oct 13 00:56 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | if you count the pi machine behind me | Oct 13 00:56 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | visible in the videos | Oct 13 00:57 |
| psydruid | one works better on one machine and another better on another machine | Oct 13 00:57 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | KDE4, Plasma5, GNOME, XFCE, LXDE | Oct 13 00:57 |
| psydruid | with one-size-fits-all like Vista 10 I could throw them all in the bin | Oct 13 00:57 |
| psydruid | because it runs like crap on most of the machines | Oct 13 00:57 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | sometimes I need a particular application or task which works better in some particular env | Oct 13 00:57 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | for the pi server I need something very very thin | Oct 13 00:58 |
| psydruid | I run fluxbox or windowmaker on my (non-raspberry) pi | Oct 13 00:58 |
| psydruid | but mostly it's just ssh | Oct 13 00:58 |
| psydruid | on this one MATE seems to work best for some reason | Oct 13 00:59 |
| psydruid | it feels faster than even XFCE | Oct 13 00:59 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | fluxbox is hardly used anymore | Oct 13 01:00 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | when was the last fluxbox release? | Oct 13 01:00 |
| psydruid | I have no idea, but I use it to conserve resources | Oct 13 01:01 |
| schestowitz | 6 years ago https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluxbox | Oct 13 01:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Fluxbox - Wikipedia | Oct 13 01:01 | |
| psydruid | when everything goes to crap, I'd rather run something that is lightweight | Oct 13 01:01 |
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| techrights-news | Is #OSEImmunotherapeutics aware of the collapse of #patent quality of the #EPO h Has it been paying attention? https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20211010005016/en/OSE-Immunotherapeutics-Receives-New-European-Patent-Notice-of-Allowance-for-Tedopi%C2%AE see http://techrights.org/2017/10/17/detrimental-effect-on-european-patents/ | Oct 13 01:03 |
| altlink_6fa | 📣 Cloudflare: businesswire.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20211010005016/en/OSE-Immunotherapeutics-Receives-New-European-Patent-Notice-of-Allowance-for-Tedopi%C2%AE | Oct 13 01:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.businesswire.com | OSE Immunotherapeutics Receives New European Patent Notice of Allowance for Tedopi® | Business Wire | Oct 13 01:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | SUEPO Representatives Like Elizabeth Hardon Vindicated as Battistelli’s Detrimental Effect on Patent Quality is Widely Confirmed | Techrights | Oct 13 01:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | OSE Immunotherapeutics Receives New European Patent Notice of Allowance for Tedopi® | Business Wire | Oct 13 01:03 | |
| techrights-news | #cat https://i.redd.it/r38tjf7ianq71.jpg | Oct 13 01:03 |
| techrights-news | Full Circle Weekly News #231 https://fullcirclemagazine.org/podcast/full-circle-weekly-news-231/ #gnu #linux | Oct 13 01:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fullcirclemagazine.org | Full Circle Weekly News #231 | Full Circle Magazine | Oct 13 01:04 | |
| techrights-news | The EPO’s Overseer/Overseen Collusion — Part X: Introducing the Controversial Christian Bock http://techrights.org/2021/10/12/swiss-christian-bock/ #switzerland #ch #christianbock #epo #patents | Oct 13 01:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EPO’s Overseer/Overseen Collusion — Part X: Introducing the Controversial Christian Bock | Techrights | Oct 13 01:08 | |
| DaemonFC | Most XFCE distros are being packed full of GNOME parts. | Oct 13 01:09 |
| DaemonFC | So it's actually a lot heavier than KDE now on most distributions. | Oct 13 01:09 |
| techrights-news | Unqualified Managers and Demoralising Leadership in Switzerland (Like in EPO) http://techrights.org/2021/10/12/switzerland-christian-bock/ #switzerland #ch #christianbock #epo #patents | Oct 13 01:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Unqualified Managers and Demoralising Leadership in Switzerland (Like in EPO) | Techrights | Oct 13 01:11 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, JWZ made the accusation that GNOME stole his XScreenSaver code, changed the BSD license to "GPL", and then removed his name from it and said copyright some other guy. | Oct 13 01:14 |
| techrights-news | #Kubuntu Focus XE is the perfect laptop for Windows-switchers and Linux beginners [Review] • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156709 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 13 01:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kubuntu Focus XE is the perfect laptop for Windows-switchers and Linux beginners [Review] | Tux Machines | Oct 13 01:15 | |
| DaemonFC | By extension, Cinnamon and MATE got it as well during the forks. | Oct 13 01:15 |
| techrights-news | #Google #Android Leftovers • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156708 #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 13 01:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Oct 13 01:15 | |
| schestowitz-TR2 | DaemonFC: reuse is OK | Oct 13 01:15 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | even encouraged | Oct 13 01:16 |
| DaemonFC | Stripping someone's copyright is not allowed under the BSD license. | Oct 13 01:16 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | without it, we have junk like systemd | Oct 13 01:16 |
| DaemonFC | Much less claiming someone else wrote it. | Oct 13 01:16 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | that nobody can truly fork | Oct 13 01:16 |
| DaemonFC | It's about the only way you can violate a BSD license. | Oct 13 01:16 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▃▄▄▅▅▄▅▄▅▃▅▃▅▃▄▃▆▄▅▆▅▆▇▅▄▅▅▄▅▆▃▄▂▅█▄▁ avg(k/sec) 21.73 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▃▁▂▁▂▁▁▂▁▂▂▂▁▁▂▃▂▁▂▂▂▂▃▂▁▁▁▁▂▁▁▁▁▁ avg(k/sec) 6.05▕ swarm size (avg): 260.92 ⟲ | Oct 13 01:19 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | DaemonFC: can you proof-read in a mo? | Oct 13 01:22 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | it's about fake security | Oct 13 01:22 |
| techrights-news | [Meme] [Teaser] Swiss Rumbustious Alpha-Rambos http://techrights.org/2021/10/12/swiss-rambos/ #switzerland #ch #christianbock #epo #patents | Oct 13 01:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] [Teaser] Swiss Rumbustious Alpha-Rambos | Techrights | Oct 13 01:24 | |
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| schestowitz-TR2 | DaemonFC: it is about security theatre | Oct 13 01:30 |
| techrights-news | Monster Crown is the next-generation of retro monster catching out now | GamingOnLinux ⚓ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/10/monster-crown-is-the-next-generation-of-retro-monster-catching-out-now ䷉ #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games 🐧 | Oct 13 01:33 |
| altlink_420 | 📣 Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/10/monster-crown-is-the-next-generation-of-retro-monster-catching-out-now | Oct 13 01:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Monster Crown is the next-generation of retro monster catching out now | GamingOnLinux | Oct 13 01:33 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/10/monster-crown-is-the-next-generation-of-retro-monster-catching-out-now ) | Oct 13 01:33 | |
| techrights-news | Seems very off-topic for this site. Celebrating VERY PROPRIETARY hardware. https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/10/amd-celebrates-5-years-of-ryzen-a-zen-3-refresh-with-3d-v-cache-due-in-2022 | Oct 13 01:35 |
| altlink_420 | 📣 Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/10/amd-celebrates-5-years-of-ryzen-a-zen-3-refresh-with-3d-v-cache-due-in-2022 | Oct 13 01:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AMD celebrates 5 years of Ryzen, a Zen 3 refresh with 3D V-Cache due in 2022 | GamingOnLinux | Oct 13 01:35 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/10/amd-celebrates-5-years-of-ryzen-a-zen-3-refresh-with-3d-v-cache-due-in-2022 ) | Oct 13 01:35 | |
| DaemonFC | Yeah. | Oct 13 01:36 |
| DaemonFC | Link? | Oct 13 01:36 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | thanks! | Oct 13 01:36 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | hand on | Oct 13 01:36 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | hang | Oct 13 01:36 |
| techrights-news | Is #FirefoxSuggest Stealing Your Key Strokes? - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=A9aLsz1fUc4 ䷉ #video #mozilla #firefox | Oct 13 01:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Is Firefox Suggest Stealing Your Key Strokes? - Invidious | Oct 13 01:37 | |
| techrights-news | You don’t NEED the command line to use Linux, but you SHOULD use it! - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=aiPthUAIYBg ䷉ #video #invidious #gnu #linux | Oct 13 01:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | You don't NEED the command line to use Linux, but you SHOULD use it! - Invidious | Oct 13 01:38 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR2, "The Microsoft Press continues to "WSL" on us, but the question remains, why would you want to take a highly reliable OS and run it as a Guest on Windows?" | Oct 13 01:38 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: http://techrights.org/2021/10/12/citation-fake-security/ | Oct 13 01:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Citation/Atlas ‘Security’ Exam is a Total Farce, But It’s Still Good for Entertainment Purposes | Techrights | Oct 13 01:38 | |
| schestowitz | draft/crude | Oct 13 01:38 |
| DaemonFC | It's been WSL this and CBL-Mariner that from OMG MSFT Joey, SJVN, and Michael Larabel. | Oct 13 01:38 |
| schestowitz | I'm sure you will find errors | Oct 13 01:38 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: yes, exactly those three,. plus Brad Linder | Oct 13 01:39 |
| schestowitz | Liliputing | Oct 13 01:39 |
| schestowitz | and CNX Software | Oct 13 01:39 |
| DaemonFC | I ran into a CBL-Mariner one on Phoronix the other day. | Oct 13 01:39 |
| schestowitz | it's old | Oct 13 01:39 |
| DaemonFC | He's an advertisement for Windows now. | Oct 13 01:39 |
| schestowitz | they pretend it's new | Oct 13 01:39 |
| schestowitz | like "clear Linux' | Oct 13 01:39 |
| schestowitz | how did that crap from Intel work out? | Oct 13 01:39 |
| schestowitz | nobody uses it, like WSL | Oct 13 01:39 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: some people told me all that clear linux stuff from phoronix was spam | Oct 13 01:40 |
| DaemonFC | Well, considering that Phoronix ran the benchmark suit recently and Clear Linux got its ass handed to it by Ubuntu 21.10..... | Oct 13 01:40 |
| schestowitz | maybe intel paid him to pretend intel distro was a 'thing' | Oct 13 01:40 |
| DaemonFC | It seems like the days of Intel being out ahead of other GNU/Linux distros with optimizations for their computers are over. | Oct 13 01:40 |
| schestowitz | clear linux will die | Oct 13 01:40 |
| schestowitz | like oher intel OSes | Oct 13 01:40 |
| schestowitz | inc RTOSses | Oct 13 01:40 |
| schestowitz | that flounder and get shelved in LF | Oct 13 01:40 |
| schestowitz | to pretend to be vendor-neutral | Oct 13 01:41 |
| schestowitz | they also tried some mobile ones for Atomy | Oct 13 01:41 |
| schestowitz | *Atomy | Oct 13 01:41 |
| schestowitz | ->Atom | Oct 13 01:41 |
| schestowitz | the deam processor family | Oct 13 01:41 |
| schestowitz | *dead Atom | Oct 13 01:41 |
| schestowitz | never got off the ground | Oct 13 01:41 |
| DaemonFC | “education” them | Oct 13 01:41 |
| DaemonFC | educate | Oct 13 01:41 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | thanks, amended | Oct 13 01:42 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR2, I'm moving 2FA over to GNOME Authenticator (with Google Authenticator as backup). | Oct 13 01:43 |
| DaemonFC | But some still requires a phone number, including my banks. | Oct 13 01:43 |
| DaemonFC | But I'm trying to move as much of this mess away from being tied to a phone number as I can. | Oct 13 01:43 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | yeah | Oct 13 01:43 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | fallbacks do exist | Oct 13 01:43 |
| DaemonFC | "even outright lies?" | Oct 13 01:45 |
| DaemonFC | and even | Oct 13 01:45 |
| DaemonFC | "At almost random" | Oct 13 01:45 |
| DaemonFC | Almost at random | Oct 13 01:45 |
| DaemonFC | "At the end, one is required to lie or say what they expect you to say in order to pass the test (which I did)." | Oct 13 01:46 |
| DaemonFC | No mistakes, but are you sure this isn't the Minnesota Multiphasic Personality Inventory? | Oct 13 01:46 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 13 01:46 |
| DaemonFC | "I LIKE TO SET FIRES!" | Oct 13 01:46 |
| DaemonFC | Uhm, strongly disagree. Yeah, they're going to put me in a straight jacket if I say "Yeah, you're goddamned right I do! And I like to blow shit up too!". | Oct 13 01:47 |
| DaemonFC | "aren’t as terrible than" | Oct 13 01:48 |
| DaemonFC | terrible as | Oct 13 01:48 |
| DaemonFC | "‘training’ as" | Oct 13 01:48 |
| DaemonFC | 'training', as | Oct 13 01:48 |
| DaemonFC | "outrageous fallacies" | Oct 13 01:49 |
| DaemonFC | missing full stop | Oct 13 01:49 |
| DaemonFC | "ARE CRIMINALS A THREAT?". | Oct 13 01:50 |
| DaemonFC | Is how that should go. | Oct 13 01:50 |
| DaemonFC | And yes... CRIMINALS BAD! CRIMINALS BAAAAD! | Oct 13 01:50 |
| DaemonFC | "No mention of “weakened” (i.e. fake) encryption." | Oct 13 01:52 |
| DaemonFC | In some ways, the NSA improved Triple DES, but only to the point where it would have been trivial for others in 1995 or soon after to break it. | Oct 13 01:53 |
| DaemonFC | I get emails that say my LinkedIn was accessed. | Oct 13 01:54 |
| DaemonFC | I don't even have one, although someone I dated who has a criminal arrest warrant active does. | Oct 13 01:54 |
| DaemonFC | He works for Doordash now. | Oct 13 01:54 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | :-) | Oct 13 01:55 |
| DaemonFC | His resume is basically a string of jobs he had for several weeks and a bus driving job where he faked a worker's comp accident. | Oct 13 01:55 |
| techrights-news | #Citation /Atlas #Security Exam is a Total Farce, But It's Still Good for Entertainment Purposes http://techrights.org/2021/10/12/citation-fake-security/ #SecurityTheatre #fakesecurity #indoctrination | Oct 13 01:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Citation/Atlas ‘Security’ Exam is a Total Farce, But It’s Still Good for Entertainment Purposes | Techrights | Oct 13 01:56 | |
| DaemonFC | Windows key plus L locks the screen on GNOME and KDE as well. | Oct 13 01:56 |
| DaemonFC | Might as well use them for something people probably already remember. | Oct 13 01:56 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | ctrl+alt | Oct 13 01:57 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | now windows key | Oct 13 01:57 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | last I checked | Oct 13 01:57 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | some machines do not have such a key | Oct 13 01:57 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | inc. "mac" PCs | Oct 13 01:57 |
| DaemonFC | Switching VPN servers when this happens, usually. | Oct 13 01:58 |
| DaemonFC | Trying to get my downloads going again. | Oct 13 01:58 |
| DaemonFC | It seems the servers get randomly congested and start slowing me down sometimes. | Oct 13 01:59 |
| DaemonFC | NordVPN is obviously slowing down Bittorrent. | Oct 13 01:59 |
| DaemonFC | You do anything else and it's almost the speed of your underlying connection. | Oct 13 01:59 |
| DaemonFC | You download a torrent and it's like 1-1.5 MB/s | Oct 13 01:59 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | low | Oct 13 02:00 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | relatively speaking | Oct 13 02:00 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | for mbit | Oct 13 02:00 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I assume you mean Mbit | Oct 13 02:00 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | broadban companies and ISPs exploit a misconception | Oct 13 02:00 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | so it means it look or sound 8 times faster | Oct 13 02:01 |
| DaemonFC | MiB | Oct 13 02:01 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | almost a whole order of magnitude | Oct 13 02:01 |
| DaemonFC | Yes, worse than hard drive companies. | Oct 13 02:01 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | they go down to bits | Oct 13 02:01 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | binary | Oct 13 02:01 |
| DaemonFC | "Antivirus software is a must have for anyone with a computer." | Oct 13 02:01 |
| DaemonFC | If it runs Windows. | Oct 13 02:02 |
| techrights-news | Today in #Techrights • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156710 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 13 02:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Oct 13 02:02 | |
| DaemonFC | "Did I learn something from this course? Absolutely nothing. But I got some giggles. Many millions of people are constantly subjected to this kind of propaganda, which sometimes seems more like marketing than actual education." | Oct 13 02:02 |
| DaemonFC | Reminds me of those bankruptcy lessons you have to take that everyone passes. | Oct 13 02:03 |
| DaemonFC | You ended up $100,000 in the hole because you didn't turn your laundry inside out before you washed it. | Oct 13 02:03 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | [02:02] <DaemonFC> If it runs Windows. | Oct 13 02:03 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I left out that bit | Oct 13 02:03 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I noticed it | Oct 13 02:03 |
| *leah has quit (connection closed) | Oct 13 02:03 | |
| schestowitz-TR2 | that is arguable | Oct 13 02:03 |
| *leah (~leah@wrh2nipuzrd3y.irc) has joined #techrights | Oct 13 02:03 | |
| schestowitz-TR2 | some might tell you, do the same for other OSes | Oct 13 02:03 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I can dispute that | Oct 13 02:04 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | mostly along the lines of, the AV is proprietary | Oct 13 02:04 |
| DaemonFC | I have never used antivirus on another OS. | Oct 13 02:04 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | but then you're like a free software 'purist' | Oct 13 02:04 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | which is a whole different debate | Oct 13 02:04 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | DaemonFC: now they push these to android users | Oct 13 02:04 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | at the stores | Oct 13 02:04 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and ISPs do the same | Oct 13 02:04 |
| DaemonFC | Mostly nobody bothers writing viruses for "Linux" aside from targeting the one in particular that runs in WSL, as a way to exploit Windows. | Oct 13 02:04 |
| DaemonFC | So now we're back to Windows again. | Oct 13 02:04 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | "do you want our security package" | Oct 13 02:04 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | they sell security as addon or another product | Oct 13 02:05 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | like airlines do with meals now | Oct 13 02:05 |
| techrights-news | #Games: Monster Crown, Elsinore, Warzone 2100, GameCIH APK v3.0.4 • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156711 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 13 02:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Monster Crown, Elsinore, Warzone 2100, GameCIH APK v3.0.4 | Tux Machines | Oct 13 02:05 | |
| DaemonFC | There have been several actual "Linux" viruses, but even Wikipedia struggles to name any that did serious damage. | Oct 13 02:05 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | ryanair thought about charging people to use toilets on the plane | Oct 13 02:05 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | if you don't have money, poop in the flight | Oct 13 02:05 |
| DaemonFC | I think the worst one ever affected some versions of Red Hat Linux in the mid 2000s or something. | Oct 13 02:05 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | things stick rather quickly | Oct 13 02:06 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and you realise it's a bad idea | Oct 13 02:06 |
| DaemonFC | When you aren't attacking a known target, I mean come on. | Oct 13 02:06 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I once read about people defacating in the flight, but cannot remember the context any longer | Oct 13 02:06 |
| DaemonFC | You have no idea that it will work as intended. Easier to go after operating systems that are all basically the same thing, like Windows versions, and Macs. | Oct 13 02:06 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | *defecating | Oct 13 02:06 |
| DaemonFC | Many of them share the same vulnerabilities going back decades. | Oct 13 02:06 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | yeah | Oct 13 02:07 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | but that's an aside | Oct 13 02:07 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | this 'course' is funny | Oct 13 02:07 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I didn't even show many other parts | Oct 13 02:07 |
| DaemonFC | You want to write a "Linux virus", good luck. | Oct 13 02:07 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | with buzzwords like "vishing" | Oct 13 02:07 |
| DaemonFC | You will need to target it at a particular version of a particular distribution. | Oct 13 02:07 |
| MinceR | or you can just target systemd | Oct 13 02:07 |
| DaemonFC | When people notice it, they'll patch. The patch will be out quickly and they'll be running the patch before you can get any critical mass. | Oct 13 02:08 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | you can write linux malware | Oct 13 02:08 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | but getting people to actually run it is hard | Oct 13 02:08 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | to send it | Oct 13 02:08 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and then get them to run it | Oct 13 02:08 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | esp. as root | Oct 13 02:08 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | viruses are not malware | Oct 13 02:08 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | they spread themselves | Oct 13 02:08 |
| MinceR | what | Oct 13 02:08 |
| DaemonFC | nordvpn runs as root. | Oct 13 02:08 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | on linux it is hard | Oct 13 02:08 |
| DaemonFC | I saw that and I wasn't really too happy about it. | Oct 13 02:08 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | most vpns need root | Oct 13 02:09 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | openvpn | Oct 13 02:09 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | ipsec | Oct 13 02:09 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | strongswan | Oct 13 02:09 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | they alter your network stack | Oct 13 02:09 |
| DaemonFC | Yes, to manage the wireguard interface. | Oct 13 02:09 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | don't be alarmed | Oct 13 02:09 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | but be sure not to use dodgy vpn s/w | Oct 13 02:09 |
| DaemonFC | Some of them are definitely much more questionable than NordVPN. | Oct 13 02:10 |
| DaemonFC | It's getting mainstream. | Oct 13 02:10 |
| DaemonFC | They sell NordVPN gift cards at Best Buy now. | Oct 13 02:10 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | wget [some options] [vpn company url] | sudo sh - | Oct 13 02:10 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | DaemonFC: nord will be sold next | Oct 13 02:10 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | ensure they don't log | Oct 13 02:10 |
| DaemonFC | Why do you think I didn't buy a 2 or 3 year subscription? | Oct 13 02:11 |
| schestowitz | <li> | Oct 13 02:11 |
| schestowitz | <h5><a href="https://torrentfreak.com/vpn-service-will-block-bittorrent-and-keep-logs-to-settle-piracy-lawsuit-211011/">VPN Service 'Agrees' to Block BitTorrent and Keep Logs to Settle Piracy Lawsuit (Updated)</a></h5> | Oct 13 02:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-VPN Service 'Agrees' to Block BitTorrent and Keep Logs to Settle Piracy Lawsuit (Updated) * TorrentFreak | Oct 13 02:11 | |
| schestowitz | <blockquote> | Oct 13 02:11 |
| schestowitz | <p>VPN.ht has settled a copyright infringement lawsuit filed by a group of independent movie companies earlier this year. As part of the deal, the VPN agreed to block all BitTorrent traffic and log IP-address information on its US servers. While this a controversial order, VPN.ht says that users are still protected as the company will stop using US servers.</p></blockquote></li> | Oct 13 02:11 |
| schestowitz | yesterday ^^ | Oct 13 02:11 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | vpn companies can become honeypots | Oct 13 02:12 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and they won't tell you | Oct 13 02:12 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | that might even be their business model | Oct 13 02:12 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | snitching chokepoints on hold | Oct 13 02:12 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | then comes kape with payday | Oct 13 02:12 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | for PIA/Lee | Oct 13 02:12 |
| techrights-news | #Sinclair Pocket TV Teardown | Hackaday ⚓ https://hackaday.com/2021/10/11/sinclair-pocket-tv-teardown/ ䷉ #hackaday | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/10/13/#latest | Oct 13 02:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Sinclair Pocket TV Teardown | Hackaday | Oct 13 02:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts | Oct 13 02:13 | |
| DaemonFC | https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/10/13/a-tale-of-two-kde-distributions-kubuntu-21-10-and-debian-11-gnu-linux/ | Oct 13 02:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | A tale of two KDE distributions. Kubuntu 21.10 and Debian 11 GNU/Linux. – BaronHK's Rants | Oct 13 02:13 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR2, Thoughts? | Oct 13 02:13 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | will read | Oct 13 02:14 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | will report as I read/copy | Oct 13 02:14 |
| MinceR | 13 031050 < schestowitz-TR2> ensure they don't log | Oct 13 02:14 |
| MinceR | it's pointless to use a VPN service that logs in the first place | Oct 13 02:14 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | tell that to their average client.. | Oct 13 02:16 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | they think THIS company is "OK" | Oct 13 02:16 |
| DaemonFC | Kubuntu 8.04 LTS had a KDE 4 ISO, but if you did that, you'd end up with a terribly broken mess, and no LTS. | Oct 13 02:17 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▆▆▅▅▄▅▃▃▅▆▇▇▅▄▅▇▇▅▅▄▅▅▅▄▃▄▄▆▃▆▄▅▁ avg(k/sec) 26.48 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▂▄▃▁▂▁▁▂▂▂▂▁▁▂▂▂▂▂▁▁▂▁▂▃▁▁▁▁▂▂▂▃▁▂▁▁ avg(k/sec) 6.73▕ swarm size (avg): 260.91 ⟲ | Oct 13 02:18 |
| DaemonFC | I thought it was amusing that they were one of the few distributions who decided to stay back and patch KDE 3 up some more to hold them over for a cycle. | Oct 13 02:18 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora went right ahead and packaged KDE 4.0.3 and it was terrible. | Oct 13 02:18 |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/784691.jpg | Oct 13 02:20 |
| altlink_420 | 📣 Cloudflare: hugelolcdn.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://hugelolcdn.com/i/784691.jpg | Oct 13 02:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://web.archive.org/web/20211013012124/https://hugelolcdn.com/i/784691.jpg ) | Oct 13 02:21 | |
| schestowitz-TR2 | DaemonFC: glad you like kde | Oct 13 02:23 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | no typos spotted thus far | Oct 13 02:23 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | stil no typos found | Oct 13 02:26 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | just "..." without trailing space | Oct 13 02:26 |
| techrights-news | A Tale of Two #KDE Distributions: Kubuntu 21.10 and Debian 11 GNU/Linux • 𝕋𝕖𝕔𝕙𝕣𝕚𝕘𝕙𝕥𝕤 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/10/12/kubuntu-21-10-vs-debian-11/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/12/kubuntu-21-10-vs-debian-11/ | Oct 13 02:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | A Tale of Two KDE Distributions: Kubuntu 21.10 and Debian 11 GNU/Linux | Techrights | Oct 13 02:26 | |
| *schestowitz-TR2 gemifying | Oct 13 02:26 | |
| schestowitz-TR2 | the daily bulletin's cuttoff is 10 mins from now | Oct 13 02:27 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | brb coffe+snack | Oct 13 02:27 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | *ee | Oct 13 02:27 |
| DaemonFC | https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/10/13/excuse-me-your-memory-is-leaking-gnome-software-running-in-the-background-taking-hundreds-of-mb-of-ram/ | Oct 13 02:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Excuse me, your memory is leaking. GNOME Software running in the background, taking hundreds of MB of RAM. – BaronHK's Rants | Oct 13 02:34 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, ^ | Oct 13 02:36 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | that explains a lot | Oct 13 02:36 |
| DaemonFC | I included the error messages from JWZ's Mac. | Oct 13 02:36 |
| techrights-news | ▌║█║▌│║▌│║▌║▌█║ techpol + social irc ▌│║▌║▌│║║▌█║▌║█ Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-121021.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-121021.txt GEMINI: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-121021.txt | Oct 13 02:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 | Oct 13 02:37 | |
| techrights-news | ▌║█║▌│║▌│║▌║▌█║ techrights irc ▌│║▌║▌│║║▌█║▌║█ Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-121021.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-121021.txt GEMINI: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techrights-121021.txt | Oct 13 02:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 | Oct 13 02:38 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR2, Remember how the Linux developers framed their interactions with Hans Reiser? | Oct 13 02:38 |
| techrights-news | #clownflare : "imagine if it was a Chinese company" http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-121021.html#tOct%2012%2010:26:29 | Oct 13 02:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 | Oct 13 02:38 | |
| DaemonFC | To make it look like he was "abusing volunteer reviewers". | Oct 13 02:39 |
| DaemonFC | They made it sound like the people reviewing the code going into Linux are unpaid or something. | Oct 13 02:39 |
| techrights-news | ▌║█║▌│║▌│║▌║▌█║ boycottnovell irc ▌│║▌║▌│║║▌█║▌║█ Yesterday's #boycottnovell IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-121021.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-121021.txt GEMINI: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-121021.txt | Oct 13 02:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 | Oct 13 02:39 | |
| techrights-news | "...it's alarming as hell all of those discord/slack/whatever sites people chat on...." http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-121021.html#tOct%2012%2013:52:32 | Oct 13 02:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 | Oct 13 02:39 | |
| schestowitz-TR2 | DaemonFC: they're not volunteers | Oct 13 02:40 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | very few linux hackers do it for no pay | Oct 13 02:40 |
| techrights-news | ▌║█║▌│║▌│║▌║▌█║ techbytes irc ▌│║▌║▌│║║▌█║▌║█ Yesterday's #techbytes IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-121021.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-121021.txt GEMINI: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techbytes-121021.txt | Oct 13 02:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 | Oct 13 02:40 | |
| schestowitz-TR2 | maybe less than 10% | Oct 13 02:40 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | kernel hackers are paid a LOT | Oct 13 02:40 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | by evil companies mostly | Oct 13 02:40 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | sad to say... | Oct 13 02:40 |
| DaemonFC | The percentage has dropped dramatically over the decades. | Oct 13 02:40 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | KDE is a different story | Oct 13 02:40 |
| DaemonFC | Started out, almost everyone was a volunteer. | Oct 13 02:40 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | DaemonFC: no wonder | Oct 13 02:41 |
| DaemonFC | Then by the end of the 90s, maybe half? | Oct 13 02:41 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | with CoC and stuff controlled by Intel et al | Oct 13 02:41 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | Zemlin steals the labour | Oct 13 02:41 |
| DaemonFC | Then by 2010, perhaps 10-15%. | Oct 13 02:41 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | monetises decades of volunteers' work | Oct 13 02:41 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | recently I was comparing, repeatedly, zemlin to baker | Oct 13 02:42 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | similar exploitation | Oct 13 02:42 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | by the totally clueless | Oct 13 02:42 |
| DaemonFC | They want to shove kdbugs in there and call it a day and then argue if Linux really needs a floppy disk driver that is a few KB of well tested code. | Oct 13 02:42 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | the world is run by them | Oct 13 02:42 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | the media celebrates them | Oct 13 02:42 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, ^ | Oct 13 02:42 |
| techrights-news | ✩░▒▓▆▅▃▂▁𝐁𝐔𝐋𝐋𝐄𝐓𝐈𝐍▁▂▃▅▆▓▒░✩ Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! 🅷🆃🆃🅿: http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2021-10-12.txt | 🅶🅴🅼🅸🅽🅸 gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2021-10-12.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now) | Oct 13 02:42 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | DaemonFC: then dump 500,000 LOCs of AMD drivers | Oct 13 02:42 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | for proprietary hardware | Oct 13 02:42 |
| DaemonFC | All of the kernel source is compressed. It compresses down to almsot nothing for a driver such as that. | Oct 13 02:43 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | when I say dump I mean sink into the kernel | Oct 13 02:43 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | no audit, nothing.. | Oct 13 02:43 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | DaemonFC: 4 articles of yours in the bulletins | Oct 13 02:43 |
| DaemonFC | Well, the proprietary driver is actually slower than the one that comes with Mesa and the kernel. | Oct 13 02:43 |
| DaemonFC | I'm told you install the proprietary one to get "Certified" OpenGL drivers. | Oct 13 02:44 |
| DaemonFC | Which....run slower. | Oct 13 02:44 |
| DaemonFC | In fact, the "Certified" drivers are probably less compliant than the open source ones. | Oct 13 02:45 |
| DaemonFC | The conformance tests they put the open source stack through is really quite good. | Oct 13 02:45 |
| techrights-news | "Each 3D-printed pin is controlled with a solenoid, all of which are driven by a single Arduino." https://hackaday.com/2021/10/12/the-beauty-of-dance-seen-through-the-power-of-touch/ | Oct 13 02:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Beauty Of Dance, Seen Through The Power Of Touch | Hackaday | Oct 13 02:47 | |
| schestowitz-TR2 | DaemonFC: the hardware may be "open" | Oct 13 02:47 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | i.e. some code dump on shithub | Oct 13 02:48 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | but the hardware is now | Oct 13 02:48 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | *not | Oct 13 02:48 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | so it is borderline openwashing | Oct 13 02:48 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | like saying "shim" is open | Oct 13 02:48 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | not free | Oct 13 02:48 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and what it does is, that gives Microsoft's proprietary back end control over you | Oct 13 02:48 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | via 'your' computer | Oct 13 02:48 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | so we need to be careful with the terms | Oct 13 02:48 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | system is also shithub code dump | Oct 13 02:48 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | of IBM mostly | Oct 13 02:49 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | *systemd | Oct 13 02:49 |
| DaemonFC | It's possible to understand what it does, but it's far too large. | Oct 13 02:49 |
| DaemonFC | The whole point is it's large and lots of things need it. | Oct 13 02:49 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | we have code dumps also | Oct 13 02:49 |
| DaemonFC | Then they can keep it really buggy and sell "support" and "training". | Oct 13 02:49 |
| schestowitz | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/git/tr-git/Desktop-Utils/ | Oct 13 02:50 |
| schestowitz | I am probably the only user of these tools | Oct 13 02:50 |
| schestowitz | so they're messy | Oct 13 02:50 |
| schestowitz | no incentive yet to tidy those up | Oct 13 02:50 |
| DaemonFC | 20 million lines of code in systemd. | Oct 13 02:50 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I think it's 2 million | Oct 13 02:50 |
| DaemonFC | It still hangs on reboot like it has on all of my systems since it first came out. | Oct 13 02:50 |
| DaemonFC | Not all the time. Not a lot. Just enough to be aggravating when it does. | Oct 13 02:51 |
| DaemonFC | Then you have to hammer ctrl-alt-delete. | Oct 13 02:51 |
| DaemonFC | "Lennart Poettering continues being the most prolific contributor to systemd with more than 32% of the commits so far this year." | Oct 13 02:57 |
| DaemonFC | LOL | Oct 13 02:57 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | not sure why, the latest videos page in gemini shows an empty list, I reran the bash script and now it's OK. Maybe the site timed out earlier. Maybe the perl version is used now instead? crontab shows bash. | Oct 13 02:59 |
| Techrights-sec | ok will check the script | Oct 13 03:00 |
| techrights-news | Aggressive men tarnish the image of #Switzerland as a soft nation of peace; details tomorrow… • 𝕋𝕖𝕔𝕙𝕣𝕚𝕘𝕙𝕥𝕤 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/10/12/swiss-rambos/ ䷉ #Techrights #EPO #patents #ch | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/12/swiss-rambos/ | Oct 13 03:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] [Teaser] Swiss Rumbustious Alpha-Rambos | Techrights | Oct 13 03:02 | |
| schestowitz | Switzerland’s media (what’s left of it) is currently looking into new scandals associated with #ChristianBock , who back in 2013 helped back the EPO’s illegal anti-strike regulations Unqualified Managers and Demoralising Leadership in Switzerland (Like in EPO) • 𝕋𝕖𝕔𝕙𝕣𝕚𝕘𝕙𝕥𝕤 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/10/12/switzerland-christian-bock/ ䷉ #Techrights #EPO #patents #ch | Oct 13 03:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Unqualified Managers and Demoralising Leadership in Switzerland (Like in EPO) | Techrights | Oct 13 03:02 | |
| techrights-news | What are people being taught about so-called ‘security’? Might that explain so many #security breaches? (Poor training, wrong assumptions) • 𝕋𝕖𝕔𝕙𝕣𝕚𝕘𝕙𝕥𝕤 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/10/12/citation-fake-security/ ䷉ #Techrights #Citation #FakeSecurity #SecurityTheatre | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/12/citation-fake-security/ | Oct 13 03:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Citation/Atlas ‘Security’ Exam is a Total Farce, But It’s Still Good for Entertainment Purposes | Techrights | Oct 13 03:03 | |
| techrights-news | Ryan F: "I recently tried out Debian 11 with #KDE on my #Lenovo Yoga 900 ISK2 laptop." • 𝕋𝕖𝕔𝕙𝕣𝕚𝕘𝕙𝕥𝕤 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/10/12/kubuntu-21-10-vs-debian-11/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/12/kubuntu-21-10-vs-debian-11/ | Oct 13 03:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | A Tale of Two KDE Distributions: Kubuntu 21.10 and Debian 11 GNU/Linux | Techrights | Oct 13 03:04 | |
| techrights-news | An enabler of #BenoîtBattistelli , who illegally brought #firearms to the #EPO , very recently had a firearms-related scandal in his home country • 𝕋𝕖𝕔𝕙𝕣𝕚𝕘𝕙𝕥𝕤 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/10/12/swiss-christian-bock/ ䷉ #Techrights | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/12/swiss-christian-bock/ | Oct 13 03:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EPO’s Overseer/Overseen Collusion — Part X: Introducing the Controversial Christian Bock | Techrights | Oct 13 03:05 | |
| Techrights-sec | The shell script is a wrapper that calls wget and the perl script, so it is | Oct 13 03:07 |
| Techrights-sec | the one that should get run. However, there is a weakness in regards to | Oct 13 03:07 |
| Techrights-sec | timeouts. | Oct 13 03:07 |
| Techrights-sec | I've added more delay between retries, that should help should a timeout | Oct 13 03:07 |
| Techrights-sec | occur again. | Oct 13 03:07 |
| Techrights-sec | mjg and his felow paid trolls whining again. nothing to see there. nothing new | Oct 13 03:07 |
| techrights-news | "Fires this year have burned hundreds of giant sequoia trees. That would be around .1% to .2% of the total. Given their life spans, this many per year, continued in the long term, can easily wipe them out. Along with hundreds of other species." https://stallman.org/archives/2021-jul-oct.html#12_October_2021_%28Giant_sequoia_trees%29 | Oct 13 03:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | 2021: July - October Political Notes - Richard Stallman | Oct 13 03:11 | |
| techrights-news | #google updates its largest #malware https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2021/10/12/google-releases-security-updates-chrome | Oct 13 03:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-us-cert.cisa.gov | Google Releases Security Updates for Chrome | CISA | Oct 13 03:12 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ☞ Gemini requests since start of month: 174808 total • Total pages: 37706 • Active: active (running) since Sun 2021-10-10 09:33:45 BST; 2 days ago | Oct 13 03:15 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ☞ IPFS local node stats (past 23 hours) calculated. TotalIn: 6.0 GB • TotalOut: 2.7 GB | Oct 13 03:15 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ☞ New daily bulletin just generated. It is about to be added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with CID | Oct 13 03:15 |
| techrights-news | New: "In this video, we are looking at how to install #Audacity on Linux Lite 5.4." Not just #linuxlite https://yewtu.be/watch?v=hI_kuIN9Pqc | Oct 13 03:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | How to install Audacity on Linux Lite 5.4 - Invidious | Oct 13 03:16 | |
| techrights-news | #HowTo listen to podcasts on the #GNU #Linux desktop with #CPod ⚓ https://www.addictivetips.com/ubuntu-linux-tips/podcasts-linux-cpod/ | Oct 13 03:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.addictivetips.com | How to listen to podcasts on the Linux desktop with CPod | Oct 13 03:17 | |
| techrights-news | Your latest and greatest #NSA back doors are ready for (IMPOSED) download. https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2021/10/12/microsoft-releases-october-2021-security-updates #microsoft #windows http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSA | Oct 13 03:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-us-cert.cisa.gov | Microsoft Releases October 2021 Security Updates | CISA | Oct 13 03:18 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft and the NSA - Techrights | Oct 13 03:18 | |
| AdmFubar | HA! You think people that buy into NFT's are getting taken.. https://www.protocol.com/china/virtual-idols-metaverse-china | Oct 13 03:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Virtual idols are a hot commodity in China - Protocol — The people, power and politics of tech | Oct 13 03:19 | |
| techrights-news | #slashdot runs overtime shilling #windows #vista Service Pack '11', even in the "LINUX" section. #wsl2 is dead, but Microsoft milks it for googlebombing the competition http://techrights.org/2020/05/06/wsl2-usage-numbers/ | Oct 13 03:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Only About 150,000 People Worldwide Use WSL2 (Windows Subsystem for Linux) | Techrights | Oct 13 03:19 | |
| schestowitz-TR2 | AdmFubar: people got desperate | Oct 13 03:19 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | now living up fantasies | Oct 13 03:19 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | "i'm a bitcoin billionaire" | Oct 13 03:19 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | "I'm the forgotten king of korea" | Oct 13 03:20 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | Qmf9EcBFemckbJcR5iWC3PVGJxQ5xe3ZqCGKzz681rKMmD | Oct 13 03:20 |
| *activelow just caught up with the backlog of last night | Oct 13 03:20 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▆▄▅▄▄▅▅▆▆▅▆▅▅▅▅▅▃▄▅▆▅▅▅▅▅▅▅█▅▅▅▁ avg(k/sec) 26.83 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▁▁▂▂▁▁▂▃▂▁▂▁▂▂▂▁▁▃▁▂▂▁▂▂▁▁▂▁▂▂▂▂▂▁ avg(k/sec) 6.93▕ swarm size (avg): 260.90 ⟲ | Oct 13 03:21 |
| activelow | here is my argument, concerning "choice", and desktop environments: often it is *fake* choice, most of them providen the *same* with some wallpaper and icons changed | Oct 13 03:21 |
| techrights-news | Everyone shilling #wsl2 right now is in fact either paid by #microsoft or a 'useful idiot' pushing #vista11 PR, not realising it's practically an ATTACK on #gnu linux | Oct 13 03:21 |
| activelow | which is both, a waste of precious development time and efforts, confusing users, and benefts noone | Oct 13 03:21 |
| activelow | even worse, almost all modern desktop environments are poisoned with specific extensions (such as, systemd), and no choice remaining with any of them | Oct 13 03:22 |
| techrights-news | Help Us Find the Apps That Sell Your Location https://themarkup.org/privacy/2021/10/07/help-us-find-the-apps-that-sell-your-location #Privacy #Surveillance | Oct 13 03:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-themarkup.org | Help Us Find the Apps That Sell Your Location – The Markup | Oct 13 03:23 | |
| techrights-news | #FreeSoftware Is Even More Important Now https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-software-even-more-important.html #Privacy #Surveillance #RMS | Oct 13 03:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gnu.org | Free Software Is Even More Important Now - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation | Oct 13 03:23 | |
| schestowitz-TR2 | activelow: not all | Oct 13 03:25 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | the main ones | Oct 13 03:25 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | notably gnome/ibm | Oct 13 03:25 |
| activelow | by coincidence i reviewed many, to verify which of them do NOT rely on systemd/dbus | Oct 13 03:26 |
| techrights-news | "CoC-compliant" = big business-friendly. Monopolies-friendly, too. Yes, criticising companies that literally helped Hitler and profited from Hitler is in itself an abuse. Must defend Hitler's companies fend off critics... #censorship #fakeCommunities | Oct 13 03:27 |
| activelow | and gnome/mate/xfce isn't any choice to be made, same with kde, and most web browsers | Oct 13 03:27 |
| techrights-news | today’s hoiwtos • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156712 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 13 03:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's hoiwtos | Tux Machines | Oct 13 03:27 | |
| schestowitz-TR2 | activelow: same for pulseaudio | Oct 13 03:28 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | at least firefucks | Oct 13 03:28 |
| techrights-news | #gnu #taler and del banco central (Central Bank Digital Currency -- CBDC). https://taler.net/en/news/2021-10.html | Oct 13 03:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-taler.net | GNU Taler | Oct 13 03:29 | |
| activelow | openbox, i3, fvwm ... those are relatively clean, even lxde builds required some patches and fiddling together some pieces otherwise it was on the hitlist too | Oct 13 03:29 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR2, I'm thinking about picking up a ThinkCentre Chromebox. | Oct 13 03:30 |
| activelow | and this covers 99% of desktop environment deployments common with gnu/linux nowadays, 99% of fake-choices made | Oct 13 03:30 |
| DaemonFC | It's an older one. A 2016 Celeron 3205U with 4 GB of RAM. | Oct 13 03:30 |
| DaemonFC | But it should work fine once I wipe Chrome OS off of it and install GalliumOS. | Oct 13 03:30 |
| techrights-news | #IBM burning money on PR stunts while laying off a lot of its staff https://hackaday.com/2021/10/11/ibm-attempts-an-uncrewed-atlantic-crossing-again/ | Oct 13 03:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-IBM Attempts An Uncrewed Atlantic Crossing (Again) | Hackaday | Oct 13 03:32 | |
| techrights-news | "The sad thing is that a university's defending the freedom to state ones' opinions in a university should constitute news." https://stallman.org/archives/2021-jul-oct.html#12_October_2021_%28Academic_freedoms%29 | Oct 13 03:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | 2021: July - October Political Notes - Richard Stallman | Oct 13 03:33 | |
| techrights-news | #Facebook Banned Me for Life Because I Help People Use It Less https://slate.com/technology/2021/10/facebook-unfollow-everything-cease-desist.html #fb #surveillance #addiction | Oct 13 03:35 |
| altlink_420 | 📣 Cloudflare: slate.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://slate.com/technology/2021/10/facebook-unfollow-everything-cease-desist.html | Oct 13 03:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-slate.com | Facebook banned me for life because I created the tool Unfollow Everything. | Oct 13 03:35 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Facebook banned me for life because I created the tool Unfollow Everything. | Oct 13 03:35 | |
| techrights-news | The only way to access #twitter (except through non-JS proxies/gateways) WITHOUT being bombarded by Twitter's unhealthy propaganda is to make browser windows very narrow. I'm not sure about "apps"; never used those... either way, VERY TOXIC site. And it's by design. | Oct 13 03:37 |
| techrights-news | #adobe #ProprietarySoftware = #security dumpster fire https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2021/10/12/adobe-releases-security-updates-multiple-products | Oct 13 03:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-us-cert.cisa.gov | Adobe Releases Security Updates for Multiple Products | CISA | Oct 13 03:38 | |
| techrights-news | #apple "vulnerability to take control of an affected system. This vulnerability has been detected in exploits in the wild." So they could no longer sweep this 'bug door' under a rug. https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2021/10/12/apple-releases-security-update-address-cve-2021-30883 | Oct 13 03:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-us-cert.cisa.gov | Apple Releases Security Update to Address CVE-2021-30883 | CISA | Oct 13 03:39 | |
| techrights-news | #Lithographs from M. E. Descourtilz’s *Atlas des Champignons* (1827) – The Public Domain Review ⚓ https://publicdomainreview.org/collection/atlas-des-champignons ䷉ #publicdomainreview #publicdomain | Oct 13 03:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-publicdomainreview.org | Lithographs from M. E. Descourtilz’s *Atlas des Champignons* (1827) – The Public Domain Review | Oct 13 03:40 | |
| techrights-news | Job ad (one person) as 'article' https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Red-Hat-New-2021-GPU-Developer | Oct 13 03:42 |
| altlink_420 | 📣 Cloudflare: phoronix.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Red-Hat-New-2021-GPU-Developer | Oct 13 03:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Red Hat Is Hiring Another Linux Developer To Work On GPU Hardware Enablement - Phoronix | Oct 13 03:42 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Red Hat Is Hiring Another Linux Developer To Work On GPU Hardware Enablement - Phoronix | Oct 13 03:42 | |
| schestowitz-TR2 | DaemonFC: ^^ | Oct 13 03:42 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | must be slow news | Oct 13 03:42 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | or someone's being rewarded | Oct 13 03:42 |
| techrights-news | Donation campaign: "Framasoft, it’s also…" https://www.davidrevoy.com/article873/donation-campaign-framasoft-its-also | Oct 13 03:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.davidrevoy.com | Donation campaign: "Framasoft, it’s also…" - David Revoy | Oct 13 03:44 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR2, These people have no idea what they're selling. | Oct 13 03:45 |
| techrights-news | Fork off, Ars Technica. Stop spamming "LINUX" with the #microsoft #googlebombing campaign. Didn't your main #microsoft operative got arrested for raping children? Oh, yes he did. http://techrights.org/2019/06/07/microsoft-peter-is-a-pedophile/ | Oct 13 03:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Peter is a Pedophile, Arrested Without Bail | Techrights | Oct 13 03:45 | |
| DaemonFC | If they did, it could probably fetch more. | Oct 13 03:45 |
| DaemonFC | $10-20 gets you all that and it can run a current distribution with XFCE. | Oct 13 03:46 |
| DaemonFC | That's cheaper than some of these non-x86 hobbyist systems. | Oct 13 03:46 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | SBCs are cheap | Oct 13 03:46 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | but there are shortages now | Oct 13 03:46 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | so they say... | Oct 13 03:46 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I did not try to order... | Oct 13 03:46 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | shortages = good | Oct 13 03:47 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | for the planet | Oct 13 03:47 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | not so good for poor people | Oct 13 03:47 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | as the prices go up | Oct 13 03:47 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | demand/supply economics | Oct 13 03:47 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | maybe next year news will be so slow.. | Oct 13 03:47 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | that phoronix will cover Red Hat hires | Oct 13 03:47 |
| DaemonFC | This laptop was pretty cheap considering all it has in it. | Oct 13 03:47 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | not job openings | Oct 13 03:47 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | like those patent "blogs" | Oct 13 03:48 |
| DaemonFC | Intel has taken some rather big hits. | Oct 13 03:48 |
| activelow | a typical intel box requires ~10x the amount of electricity of what is necessary, often | Oct 13 03:48 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | where the news is, person x (low level) changes employer | Oct 13 03:48 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | activelow: true also | Oct 13 03:48 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | ime, 5-10 times more | Oct 13 03:48 |
| DaemonFC | You can improve Intel power consumption with powertop --auto-tune as a service. | Oct 13 03:48 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | not including GPU | Oct 13 03:48 |
| DaemonFC | Linux ships with most of the power management turned off, including on my Yoga 900 ISK2 from 2016. | Oct 13 03:49 |
| activelow | not really, a cortex a53 quadcore can operate at ~5W, an intel box is ~50W-100W | Oct 13 03:49 |
| activelow | or more | Oct 13 03:49 |
| DaemonFC | Mine usually idles at about 2.5 watts if the screen is at the lowest brightness and there's no programs except GNOME running. | Oct 13 03:50 |
| DaemonFC | That's the new one. | Oct 13 03:50 |
| activelow | which one exactly? | Oct 13 03:50 |
| DaemonFC | The older one uses about 3-4 watts under those circumstances. | Oct 13 03:50 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | sounds wrong | Oct 13 03:50 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | the screen alone takes more | Oct 13 03:50 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | DaemonFC: what are you actually measuring there? | Oct 13 03:50 |
| *gde33 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | Oct 13 03:51 | |
| DaemonFC | Battery discharge report. | Oct 13 03:51 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | the screen does not run at 2.5 watts | Oct 13 03:51 |
| DaemonFC | Modern Intel systems have a way to turn off the link to the display when it has nothing to paint at the moment. | Oct 13 03:51 |
| activelow | i was only referring to the main system, without peripherals attached | Oct 13 03:52 |
| DaemonFC | It's called panel self-refresh. | Oct 13 03:52 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | the backlight is still there | Oct 13 03:52 |
| DaemonFC | The most this thing can possibly draw is 25 watts for the CPU package. | Oct 13 03:52 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | flashlights take more | Oct 13 03:53 |
| DaemonFC | And it's a quad core CPU with hyperthreading. | Oct 13 03:53 |
| DaemonFC | And the package also has WiFi, Bluetooth, and the graphics chip. | Oct 13 03:53 |
| DaemonFC | As well as the display and SATA controller. | Oct 13 03:53 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and that scales down to 2.5 INCLUDING monitor? | Oct 13 03:53 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | makes no sense | Oct 13 03:53 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and wifi also | Oct 13 03:53 |
| DaemonFC | If you have the monitor on the lowest power setting, it can. | Oct 13 03:54 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | a tuner can take up more | Oct 13 03:54 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | DaemonFC: maybe it tells you that | Oct 13 03:54 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | but that sounds bogus | Oct 13 03:54 |
| DaemonFC | It's more common to see it at around 4-6 watts though. | Oct 13 03:54 |
| DaemonFC | Maybe 10-12 watts if I'm browsing with Vivaldi. | Oct 13 03:54 |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laptop#Central_processing_unit | Oct 13 03:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Laptop - Wikipedia | Oct 13 03:54 | |
| activelow | i did measure it with various equipment, long story short intel/amd reach power-comsumtion at the scale of up to 100x higher power draw in comparison to an ARM SBC | Oct 13 03:55 |
| schestowitz | "he fastest laptop processors top out at 56 watts of heat, while the fastest desktop processors top out at 150 watts." | Oct 13 03:55 |
| schestowitz | nowhere near what you said | Oct 13 03:55 |
| DaemonFC | It's not that different. | Oct 13 03:55 |
| DaemonFC | When you measure performance per watt. | Oct 13 03:55 |
| DaemonFC | Even the best ARM smartphones are only about as fast as a mid-range laptop from 10 years ago. | Oct 13 03:55 |
| schestowitz | "The OLPC XO-3 can operate with 2 watts of electricity because its renewable energy resources generate a total of 4 watts.[52][53] Samsung has also designed the NC215S solar–powered notebook that will be sold commercially in the U.S. market" | Oct 13 03:56 |
| schestowitz | So your modern lenovo is same as OLPC? | Oct 13 03:56 |
| activelow | anyway, the trick is to tailor the software to unleash the full potential at 1% of typical power draw | Oct 13 03:57 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | iirc, that used marvewll chips | Oct 13 03:57 |
| activelow | because, it isn't that challenging to turn of all light bulbs and do nothing anymore at all | Oct 13 03:57 |
| activelow | which it seems "greens" in germany are heading towards with their plans | Oct 13 03:57 |
| activelow | sorry, no politics | Oct 13 03:57 |
| DaemonFC | It's not too bad, actually. Real world usage is about 5-7 hours on a 44 Wh battery. | Oct 13 03:58 |
| DaemonFC | Lenovo actually kind of screwed me. | Oct 13 03:58 |
| DaemonFC | If this thing was toting the battery pack of the Yoga 900, it would run for over 13 hours. | Oct 13 03:58 |
| techrights-news | Apache OpenOffice users should upgrade to newest security release! http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156539#comment-31349 | Oct 13 03:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Release of OpenOffice and News from LibreOffice (Conference and QA/Dev Report) | Tux Machines | Oct 13 03:58 | |
| activelow | anyway, that's why the gentoo distcc cluster here is impressive, because it covers a use case which typical intel/amd systems require up to 100x the amount of electricity often | Oct 13 03:58 |
| activelow | to maintain a distribution full from source | Oct 13 03:59 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR2, The battery life is much less impressive on Windows than with Linux plus powertop --auto-tune. | Oct 13 03:59 |
| DaemonFC | I suspect, if anything, newer kernels might do a little better than the one included with Debian 11. | Oct 13 03:59 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I think you quote wrong reports | Oct 13 04:00 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | it reports something | Oct 13 04:00 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | but not total usage | Oct 13 04:00 |
| DaemonFC | Windows is such a drag that even running Vivaldi on that feels "slow". | Oct 13 04:00 |
| DaemonFC | On a high end laptop! | Oct 13 04:00 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | yes, makes sense | Oct 13 04:00 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | Windows | Oct 13 04:00 |
| DaemonFC | It's extremely fast on GNU/Linux. | Oct 13 04:00 |
| schestowitz | "Fat operating systems spend most of their energy supporting their own fat." Nicholas Negroponte, MIT Media Lab, rediff.com, Apr 2006 | Oct 13 04:01 |
| schestowitz | the OLPC mastermind | Oct 13 04:01 |
| schestowitz | eventually tortured into putting XP on those | Oct 13 04:01 |
| schestowitz | and then it died | Oct 13 04:01 |
| DaemonFC | Windows XP. LOL | Oct 13 04:01 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | yeah | Oct 13 04:01 |
| DaemonFC | "It's for the children." | Oct 13 04:01 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | cautionary tale for raspi | Oct 13 04:01 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | or Nokia | Oct 13 04:01 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | tried to put 'windows'... on Nokia phones | Oct 13 04:02 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | which used to have WEEKS-only battery life | Oct 13 04:02 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | DaemonFC: it is | Oct 13 04:02 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | to keep the monopoly of Bill | Oct 13 04:02 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | so he can hang out with Epstein more often | Oct 13 04:02 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | "for the children" | Oct 13 04:02 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | BTW, | Oct 13 04:02 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | Verge worked on an article about this | Oct 13 04:03 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | how Gates Foundation derailed OLPC | Oct 13 04:03 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | Then the writer got fired | Oct 13 04:03 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | he was hanging out here in IRC | Oct 13 04:03 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | Then Gates paid The Verge | Oct 13 04:03 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and was sacked | Oct 13 04:03 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | (the writer) | Oct 13 04:03 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/07/16/gates-press-sunset/ | Oct 13 04:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Gates Press (GatesGate) — Part VI: Sunsetting for Now | Techrights | Oct 13 04:03 | |
| DaemonFC | I remember Fedora (well before IBM) sponsoring Sugar on a Stick as the GUI for those things. | Oct 13 04:03 |
| DaemonFC | Windows XP looked hideous on a PC. | Oct 13 04:04 |
| DaemonFC | I can only imagine it on an XO. | Oct 13 04:04 |
| schestowitz | Fisher Price GUI | Oct 13 04:04 |
| schestowitz | back then all games were Windows | Oct 13 04:04 |
| schestowitz | at least AAA ones | Oct 13 04:04 |
| activelow | think about it, even a Z80 (low power consumption and it is a 40year old design) can be used for mathematics, computer algebra, programming | Oct 13 04:05 |
| activelow | or mos6502, not that i am accused of advertising anything specific | Oct 13 04:05 |
| techrights-news | #Techrights Bulletin for Tuesday, October 12, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext | Oct 13 04:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives | Oct 13 04:05 | |
| techrights-news | #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing | Oct 13 04:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index | Oct 13 04:05 | |
| techrights-news | #GNOME: Platform Design Goings On • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156713 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 13 04:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME: Platform Design Goings On | Tux Machines | Oct 13 04:06 | |
| activelow | whatever "poor children" are supposed to be doing with a computer | Oct 13 04:06 |
| DaemonFC | There's chips like that in a scientific calculator I saw for $1 at Dollar Tree the other day. | Oct 13 04:07 |
| DaemonFC | I looked at it and I was like "Wow. That is $1.". | Oct 13 04:07 |
| techrights-news | #Security Patches • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156714 #TuxMachines | Oct 13 04:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Patches | Tux Machines | Oct 13 04:07 | |
| DaemonFC | They're selling it in the wrong neighborhood though. | Oct 13 04:07 |
| DaemonFC | Most of the people who shop there would struggle and burn out their brains trying to use it in basic math. | Oct 13 04:07 |
| activelow | remembering the computer i had as a teenager, which was a piece of win311 crap, i mean even a 32bit arm clocked at 400MHz or something with 256MiB of RAM had been a dream come true | Oct 13 04:08 |
| DaemonFC | I think it says everything that people who mix coffee powder with water at Dunkin' Donuts say they're Communists because $17 an hour isn't enough. | Oct 13 04:08 |
| DaemonFC | Meanwhile, they obviously have no idea what goes on or what would happen to them if they lived in a Communist country. | Oct 13 04:09 |
| techrights-news | ● [Old] ● #Vidarholen # ☞ Useless Use Of dd https://www.vidarholen.net/contents/blog/?p=479 | Oct 13 04:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.vidarholen.net | Useless Use Of dd – Vidar's Blog | Oct 13 04:09 | |
| activelow | problem with any slower than i am using now for gentoo based workflow to maintain 100% from source is | Oct 13 04:10 |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #ZondaMedia #freesw ☞ 7 Open-Source Software Options for Architects https://www.architectmagazine.com/technology/7-open-source-software-options-for-architects_o | Oct 13 04:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.architectmagazine.com | 7 Open-Source Software Options for Architects | Architect Magazine | Oct 13 04:10 | |
| activelow | any slower system didn't suffice anymore to compile the sofwtare, otherwise even a 400Mhz single core with 256MiB RAM would make me happy | Oct 13 04:10 |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #IndiaTimes #Programming ☞ What can enterprises do about soaring technical debts? https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/case-studies/what-can-enterprises-do-about-soaring-technical-debts/86857788 | Oct 13 04:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com | What can enterprises do about soaring technical debts?, IT News, ET CIO | Oct 13 04:10 | |
| activelow | and, if software was tailored and bloatware removed, then even a 400MHz single core would suffice for a source-based workflow | Oct 13 04:11 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | too bloated | Oct 13 04:11 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | many symbols | Oct 13 04:11 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | ram, cpu... | Oct 13 04:11 |
| activelow | not possible anymore, i know | Oct 13 04:11 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | a browser for interlinked pages should be like a minute to compile | Oct 13 04:12 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | on an old machine | Oct 13 04:12 |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #CoRecursive #Programming ☞ #Apple II Programming: From A Cabin In The Woods https://corecursive.com/remote-developer/ | Oct 13 04:12 |
| altlink_420 | 📣 Cloudflare: corecursive.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://corecursive.com/remote-developer/ | Oct 13 04:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apple II Programming From A Cabin In The Woods - CoRecursive Podcast | Oct 13 04:12 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Apple II Programming From A Cabin In The Woods - CoRecursive Podcast | Oct 13 04:12 | |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Xanadu | Oct 13 04:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Project Xanadu - Wikipedia | Oct 13 04:12 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #LarsWirzenius #Programming ☞ Tilde expansion in #RustLang https://blog.liw.fi/posts/2021/10/12/tilde-expansion-crates/ | Oct 13 04:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.liw.fi | Tilde expansion in Rust | Oct 13 04:13 | |
| techrights-news | techrights-news ● NEWS ● #IndiaTimes #Programming ☞ What can enterprises do about soaring technical debts? https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/case-studies/what-can-enterprises-do-about-soaring-technical-debts/86857788 | Oct 13 04:14 |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #TheHill ☞ Slain reporter's father calls for action against #Facebook over video of daughter's death https://thehill.com/policy/technology/576361-slain-reporters-father-calls-for-action-against-facebook-over-video-of-daughters-death | Oct 13 04:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Slain reporter's father calls for action against Facebook over video of daughter's death | TheHill | Oct 13 04:14 | |
| DaemonFC | Even in the late 90s there was a lot wrong with the web. | Oct 13 04:15 |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #SANS ☞ Things that go "Bump" in the Night: Non HTTP Requests Hitting Web Servers https://isc.sans.edu/diary/rss/27924 | Oct 13 04:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-isc.sans.edu | InfoSec Handlers Diary Blog | Oct 13 04:15 | |
| DaemonFC | It barely loads any faster now on broadband than it did then on dial up, especially without an ad blocker. | Oct 13 04:15 |
| *leah has quit (connection closed) | Oct 13 04:15 | |
| DaemonFC | Because they keep packing more shit into each page. | Oct 13 04:15 |
| *leah (~leah@wrh2nipuzrd3y.irc) has joined #techrights | Oct 13 04:15 | |
| schestowitz-TR2 | DaemonFC: true | Oct 13 04:15 |
| activelow | very true | Oct 13 04:15 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | if you load up 1990s pages, sub-second load times | Oct 13 04:15 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and clicks are instantly pleasing | Oct 13 04:16 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | it just comes up the moment you click it | Oct 13 04:16 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | depending on network letancy | Oct 13 04:16 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | latency | Oct 13 04:16 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | with static pages | Oct 13 04:16 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | it's like a GUI | Oct 13 04:16 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | local | Oct 13 04:16 |
| DaemonFC | Mandy's updating his hypePhone to SpywareOS 15. | Oct 13 04:17 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | 'his' | Oct 13 04:17 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | apple's | Oct 13 04:17 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | people think they own what they pay for | Oct 13 04:18 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | it's like car rental | Oct 13 04:18 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | you sort of 'own' it | Oct 13 04:18 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | temporarily | Oct 13 04:18 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | apple cracks down on repair stores | Oct 13 04:18 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | so to service the thing you need to ask apple nicely | Oct 13 04:19 |
| *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) | Oct 13 04:19 | |
| schestowitz-TR2 | like with john deere tractors | Oct 13 04:19 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | "Windows 7 was my idea" | Oct 13 04:19 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | NSA" Windows 7 was our back doors" | Oct 13 04:19 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | back then the NSA advertised it as a submarine thing | Oct 13 04:20 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | before MSM came to admit only something such as GNU/Linux made sense for everything | Oct 13 04:20 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | they didn't say GNU | Oct 13 04:20 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and then, in those days, Windows was still put in some critical systems | Oct 13 04:21 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | those are the ones you read about in the news getting brached | Oct 13 04:21 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | "ransom attacks" | Oct 13 04:21 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | They blame not Windows | Oct 13 04:21 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | just Russia | Oct 13 04:21 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | or China | Oct 13 04:21 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | alternately | Oct 13 04:21 |
| activelow | i had noticed yes, german publicly funded TV does it | Oct 13 04:21 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR2, Falkon whitelists DuckDuckGo's ads and trackers. | Oct 13 04:22 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | they blame the exploiter | Oct 13 04:22 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | you leave the door open | Oct 13 04:22 |
| activelow | it is *always* "the russians" or "the chinese" or "criminals" | Oct 13 04:22 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | then you blame the person walking in | Oct 13 04:22 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | DaemonFC: where do these go? | Oct 13 04:22 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | do you use DDG? | Oct 13 04:22 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | iirc, at one stage falkon was trying to foist that scam | Oct 13 04:23 |
| DaemonFC | It's the default in the package available in Kubuntu 21.10. | Oct 13 04:23 |
| DaemonFC | So presumably Debian Sid. | Oct 13 04:23 |
| techrights-news | Video/Audio: CLI, Firefox Keylogging, and Full Circle Weekly • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156715 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 13 04:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Video/Audio: CLI, Firefox Keylogging, and Full Circle Weekly | Tux Machines | Oct 13 04:23 | |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu mostly copies a snapshot of Sid (for their normal releases) or Testing (for LTS) and then "stabilizes" it. | Oct 13 04:24 |
| DaemonFC | They've gotten far more out of Debian than they've ever sent back upstream. | Oct 13 04:24 |
| DaemonFC | I think that in many cases, Ubuntu doesn't seem to have the slightest idea of what they're doing. | Oct 13 04:27 |
| DaemonFC | They hire people to write software that dead ends. | Oct 13 04:27 |
| techrights-news | iophk: with Windows, an attack is equated with a successful breach https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/cyber-security-subsite/files/ransomware-action-plan.pdf see http://techrights.org/2021/10/01/microsoft-azure-is-a-security-breach/ | Oct 13 04:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | With Microsoft, Security Breaches Are Presumed | Techrights | Oct 13 04:28 | |
| DaemonFC | <schestowitz-TR2> DaemonFC: where do these go? | Oct 13 04:28 |
| DaemonFC | DDG has several disturbing "features" in the background. | Oct 13 04:28 |
| techrights-news | iophk: too much #wsl spam http://techrights.org/2020/05/06/wsl2-usage-numbers/ | Oct 13 04:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Only About 150,000 People Worldwide Use WSL2 (Windows Subsystem for Linux) | Techrights | Oct 13 04:28 | |
| schestowitz | x https://www.clarepeople.com/7631-libreoffice-and-openoffice-failure-allows-changing-digital-signatures/ | Oct 13 04:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.clarepeople.com | LibreOffice and OpenOffice failure allows changing digital signatures – The Clare People | Oct 13 04:28 | |
| DaemonFC | One is appending a GUID to some of the links you click on, although the AdGuard URL Tracking Prevention List for ublock-origin can strip those back out. | Oct 13 04:29 |
| DaemonFC | Before the site sees them. | Oct 13 04:29 |
| DaemonFC | Along with many others, including Facebook's. | Oct 13 04:29 |
| DaemonFC | Another is a tracking script they use (maybe internally) called improving duckduckgo. | Oct 13 04:29 |
| DaemonFC | I think that one is blocked in EasyPrivacy. | Oct 13 04:30 |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #ThreatPost #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware ☞ #Office360 Spy Campaign Targets US Military Defense https://threatpost.com/military-defense-spy-campaign/175425/ | Oct 13 04:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Office 365 Spy Campaign Targets US Military Defense | Threatpost | Oct 13 04:30 | |
| techrights-news | #Microsoft #Windows TCO: ● #ITWire #ProprietarySoftware ☞ Govt to force businesses with $10m annual turnover to report ransomware attacks https://itwire.com/security/govt-to-force-businesses-with-$10m-annual-turnover-to-report-ransomware-attacks.html | Oct 13 04:30 |
| altlink_420 | 📣 Cloudflare: itwire.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://itwire.com/security/govt-to-force-businesses-with-$10m-annual-turnover-to-report-ransomware-attacks.html | Oct 13 04:30 |
| DaemonFC | But Falkon doesn't have EasyPrivacy by default and whitelists it in case you add it. | Oct 13 04:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iTWire - Govt to force businesses with $10m annual turnover to report ransomware attacks | Oct 13 04:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://web.archive.org/web/20211013033020/https://itwire.com/security/govt-to-force-businesses-with-$10m-annual-turnover-to-report-ransomware-attacks.html ) | Oct 13 04:30 | |
| schestowitz-TR2 | DaemonFC: glad you at least try falkon | Oct 13 04:30 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I almost never see ads in it | Oct 13 04:30 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | almost forgot they even exist | Oct 13 04:30 |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #Gizmodo #Privacy #Surveillance ☞ Researchers Find #Android Phones Still Track You, Even When You Opt Out https://gizmodo.com/researchers-find-android-phones-still-track-you-even-w-1847849141 | Oct 13 04:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gizmodo.com | Android Phones Still Track You, Even When You Opt Out | Oct 13 04:31 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #BruceSchneier #Privacy #Surveillance ☞ The European Parliament Voted to Ban Remote #Biometric Surveillance https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2021/10/the-european-parliament-voted-to-ban-remote-biometric-surveillance.html | Oct 13 04:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The European Parliament Voted to Ban Remote Biometric Surveillance - Schneier on Security | Oct 13 04:31 | |
| DaemonFC | EasyPrivacy is worth adding. | Oct 13 04:32 |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #PatrickBreyer #Privacy #Surveillance ☞ #Cybersecurity [sic]: #EU To Ban Anonymous Websites https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/cybersecurity-eu-to-ban-anonymous-websites/ | Oct 13 04:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patrick-breyer.de | Cybersecurity: EU to ban anonymous websites – Patrick Breyer | Oct 13 04:32 | |
| DaemonFC | It's obviously broadly compatible with ABP-syntax since it's meant for ABP. | Oct 13 04:32 |
| DaemonFC | ublock-origin is nicer than most ad blockers, because it has its own extensions and rule sets. | Oct 13 04:32 |
| techrights-news | CAN communication on the #RaspberryPI with #SocketCAN https://www.pragmaticlinux.com/2021/10/can-communication-on-the-raspberry-pi-with-socketcan/ | Oct 13 04:33 |
| altlink_420 | 📣 Cloudflare: pragmaticlinux.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.pragmaticlinux.com/2021/10/can-communication-on-the-raspberry-pi-with-socketcan/ | Oct 13 04:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-CAN communication on the Raspberry PI with SocketCAN - PragmaticLinux | Oct 13 04:33 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://web.archive.org/web/20211013033354/https://www.pragmaticlinux.com/2021/10/can-communication-on-the-raspberry-pi-with-socketcan/ ) | Oct 13 04:33 | |
| techrights-news | #modi mimicking #talban https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/12/world/asia/modi-india-antiterror-law.html "statute that critics say is aimed at silencing dissent." | Oct 13 04:34 |
| altlink_420 | 📣 Cloudflare: nytimes.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/12/world/asia/modi-india-antiterror-law.html | Oct 13 04:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Narendra Modi's Use of Antiterror Law Draws Scrutiny From Courts - The New York Times | Oct 13 04:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Narendra Modi's Use of Antiterror Law Draws Scrutiny From Courts - The New York Times | Oct 13 04:34 | |
| techrights-news | #SparkyLinux 2021.10 is out. Site not updated yet. https://sparkylinux.org/ #poland #gnu #linux #debian | Oct 13 04:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sparkylinux.org | SparkyLinux | Oct 13 04:36 | |
| techrights-news | #microsoft #propaganda outlet #bleepingcomputer speaking FUD about #LibreOffice and #OpenOffice right now. It should instead focus on Microsoft's back doors | Oct 13 04:37 |
| DaemonFC | comp.os.linux.advocacy really went to shit. | Oct 13 04:37 |
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| DaemonFC | Four pages of "I hate Joe Biden." posts. | Oct 13 04:39 |
| DaemonFC | And counting. | Oct 13 04:39 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | forgetmenot: hi | Oct 13 04:39 |
| forgetmenot | hi | Oct 13 04:39 |
| forgetmenot | https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1459 | Oct 13 04:40 |
| -altlink_cba/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: ietf.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1459 | Oct 13 04:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-datatracker.ietf.org | rfc1459 | Oct 13 04:40 | |
| techrights-news | Top 6 open-source Self-hosted Bookmark Manager Solution • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156716 #freesw #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 13 04:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Top 6 open-source Self-hosted Bookmark Manager Solution | Tux Machines | Oct 13 04:40 | |
| forgetmenot | ^ was said by NOTICE but it made no difference | Oct 13 04:40 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR2, I think I may have figured out what was the problem with Wireguard. | Oct 13 04:41 |
| DaemonFC | The MTU for the Nordlynx adapter is set at 1420, but my wifi adapter is at 1500. | Oct 13 04:41 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | forgetmenot: I see... | Oct 13 04:41 |
| DaemonFC | When I use OpenVPN, the tun0 is MTU 1500. | Oct 13 04:41 |
| forgetmenot | (still reading logs to know who suggested it) | Oct 13 04:41 |
| DaemonFC | How do I make the setting of 1420 for wifi persistent across reboots? | Oct 13 04:42 |
| DaemonFC | I tried a dozen times and the documentation must have been stale. Probably system duh doy changing everything 10 times since like 2017. | Oct 13 04:42 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | forgetmenot: notices work with the title expansion bot | Oct 13 04:44 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | which uses php | Oct 13 04:44 |
| forgetmenot | MinceR: thanks for the suggestion, he probably didn't noticed your suggestion so I replaced PRIVMSG to NOTICE for you ;) | Oct 13 04:45 |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #Eudaimonia #Environment ☞ Why Everything is Suddenly Getting More Expensive — And Why It Won’t Stop https://eand.co/why-everything-is-suddenly-getting-more-expensive-and-why-it-wont-stop-cbf5a091f403?gi=41d77b3db5eb "The “chip shortage” is something that the world doesn’t really grasp yet" | Oct 13 04:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-eand.co | Why Everything is Suddenly Getting More Expensive — And Why It Won’t Stop | by umair haque | Oct, 2021 | Eudaimonia and Co | Oct 13 04:45 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #RTL #Environment ☞ When global warming stops, seas will still rise https://today.rtl.lu/news/science-and-environment/a/1800768.html | Oct 13 04:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-today.rtl.lu | RTL Today - For centuries to come: When global warming stops, seas will still rise | Oct 13 04:46 | |
| forgetmenot | by the way | Oct 13 04:46 |
| forgetmenot | there are way too many CF site nowadays | Oct 13 04:46 |
| forgetmenot | Mastodon Altlink has impressive CF% | Oct 13 04:46 |
| activelow | DaemonFC: /etc/sysctl.conf | Oct 13 04:47 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | forgetmenot: many instances of 'free' social control media use clownflare | Oct 13 04:49 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | even some nitter instances | Oct 13 04:49 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | invidious | Oct 13 04:49 |
| forgetmenot | yeah | Oct 13 04:49 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | so you dodge one evil | Oct 13 04:49 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | then get another | Oct 13 04:49 |
| forgetmenot | and those are listed in https://git.disroot.org/dCF/deCloudflare/src/branch/master/subfiles | Oct 13 04:49 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | clownflare fronting for 'freedom' sites | Oct 13 04:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.disroot.org | dCF/deCloudflare: The Great Cloudwall / Stop Cloudflare / #deCloudflare #GreatCloudwall #Crimeflare - deCloudflare - Gitea: Git with a cup of tea | Oct 13 04:49 | |
| schestowitz-TR2 | case of point: https://nitter.eu/search?f=tweets&q=techrights.org&since=2021-10-13&near= | Oct 13 04:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.eu | nitter | Oct 13 04:49 | |
| schestowitz-TR2 | https://nitter.eu/search?f=tweets&q=techrights&since=2021-10-13&near= | Oct 13 04:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.eu | nitter | Oct 13 04:49 | |
| schestowitz-TR2 | there's a bunch of them among nitter instances that use clownflare | Oct 13 04:50 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I got rid of them all | Oct 13 04:50 |
| forgetmenot | Good job! not all ppl block CF. | Oct 13 04:50 |
| forgetmenot | I use DNS service instead: https://git.disroot.org/dCF/deCloudflare/src/branch/master/subfiles/service.publicdns.md | Oct 13 04:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.disroot.org | dCF/deCloudflare: The Great Cloudwall / Stop Cloudflare / #deCloudflare #GreatCloudwall #Crimeflare - subfiles/service.publicdns.md at master - deCloudflare - Gitea: Git with a cup of tea | Oct 13 04:51 | |
| schestowitz-TR2 | maybe we'll do a video about decloudflare | Oct 13 04:51 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | but I need to study the project first | Oct 13 04:52 |
| forgetmenot | please do. There are too many pro-Cloudflare vids on youtube | Oct 13 04:52 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | the unspoken-of giantw | Oct 13 04:52 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | who funds clownflare | Oct 13 04:52 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | surely not just shareholders | Oct 13 04:52 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | they don't have a suitable business mode | Oct 13 04:52 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | being a CDN is not a libre thing | Oct 13 04:52 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | they can stuff ads later | Oct 13 04:53 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | or sell usage data | Oct 13 04:53 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | they probably already do that | Oct 13 04:53 |
| forgetmenot | agreed. | Oct 13 04:53 |
| forgetmenot | here's daily/hourly lists of voices (anti-cf): https://git.disroot.org/dCF/deCloudflare/src/branch/master/PEOPLE.md (Twitter/Mastodon are hourly update) | Oct 13 04:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.disroot.org | dCF/deCloudflare: The Great Cloudwall / Stop Cloudflare / #deCloudflare #GreatCloudwall #Crimeflare - PEOPLE.md at master - deCloudflare - Gitea: Git with a cup of tea | Oct 13 04:54 | |
| schestowitz-TR2 | ages ago clownflare staff blocked me in twitter | Oct 13 04:54 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | because I said they were problematic | Oct 13 04:54 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | blocking tor etc. | Oct 13 04:54 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | their response was, block this guy | Oct 13 04:54 |
| forgetmenot | Isn't Twitter anti-tor already? | Oct 13 04:54 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | only one of them actually tried to respond to me | Oct 13 04:54 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | so they're instructed not to listen to critics | Oct 13 04:54 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | their founder of cofounder is dead | Oct 13 04:54 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | *or | Oct 13 04:54 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | twitter is anti-everything | Oct 13 04:55 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | clounflare still pretends | Oct 13 04:55 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | using court battles | Oct 13 04:55 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | over copyright sites | Oct 13 04:55 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and patent trolls | Oct 13 04:55 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | until daily stormer | Oct 13 04:55 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and then the mask started to slip | Oct 13 04:55 |
| forgetmenot | the judge sided with Cloudflare in recent court iirc | Oct 13 04:55 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | since then they've wuit the pretence | Oct 13 04:55 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | yes, I saw that | Oct 13 04:55 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | TF covered it | Oct 13 04:55 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | iirc, TF uses clownflare | Oct 13 04:56 |
| forgetmenot | yeah lol | Oct 13 04:56 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | idiots | Oct 13 04:56 |
| forgetmenot | many news sites are CF nowadays | Oct 13 04:56 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | evenmainstream ones | Oct 13 04:56 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | even bexos sites | Oct 13 04:56 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | like washpo | Oct 13 04:56 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | aws no good | Oct 13 04:56 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | cdn of competitor | Oct 13 04:56 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | they could spin off varnish on aws | Oct 13 04:56 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | for bezospost | Oct 13 04:56 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | but with clownflare they ride investors' bucks | Oct 13 04:57 |
| forgetmenot | Still, AWS is much better than CF - it doesn't block Tor/VPN users by default. | Oct 13 04:57 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | or prior to it VCs | Oct 13 04:57 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | clownflare will'cash in' at some point | Oct 13 04:57 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | wait, clownflare does it by default now? | Oct 13 04:57 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I thought it was a more restrictive mode | Oct 13 04:58 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | same for the JS tests | Oct 13 04:58 |
| forgetmenot | no no | Oct 13 04:58 |
| forgetmenot | AWS doesn't block Tor/VPN. CF does. | Oct 13 04:58 |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #EuropeanParliament #Politics ☞ #Facebook Files: MEPs to invite whistleblower Frances Haugen to a hearing https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/fi/press-room/20211011IPR14619/facebook-files-meps-to-invite-whistleblower-frances-haugen-to-a-hearing | Oct 13 04:58 |
| -altlink_cba/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: europa.eu | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/fi/press-room/20211011IPR14619/facebook-files-meps-to-invite-whistleblower-frances-haugen-to-a-hearing | Oct 13 04:58 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.europarl.europa.eu | Facebook Files: MEPs to invite whistleblower Frances Haugen to a hearing | Ajankohtaista | Euroopan parlamentti | Oct 13 04:58 | |
| schestowitz-TR2 | oh . my. god | Oct 13 04:58 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | europa.eu is clownflare? | Oct 13 04:58 |
| forgetmenot | LOL | Oct 13 04:58 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | OUR GOVERNMENT USES US??? | Oct 13 04:58 |
| forgetmenot | relax mate | Oct 13 04:59 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | what have we sunk to? | Oct 13 04:59 |
| forgetmenot | many *.gov (US site) use CF | Oct 13 04:59 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | well, us | Oct 13 04:59 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | this is eu | Oct 13 04:59 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | no cdn in europe? | Oct 13 04:59 |
| forgetmenot | actually | Oct 13 04:59 |
| forgetmenot | there are many cloudflareed .eu domains | Oct 13 04:59 |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #UPI #Politics ☞ #Facebook #whistleblower invited to speak to European Parliament https://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2021/10/11/facebook-whistleblower-european-parliament-frances-haugen/9371633974806/ | Oct 13 04:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Facebook whistleblower invited to speak to European Parliament - UPI.com | Oct 13 04:59 | |
| schestowitz-TR2 | forgetmenot: but this is gov | Oct 13 05:00 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and they have budget | Oct 13 05:00 |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #Bloomberg #Politics ☞ #Facebook Whistle-Blower to Speak Out at U.K., EU Parliaments https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-10-11/facebook-whistle-blower-to-speak-out-at-u-k-eu-parliaments | Oct 13 05:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bloomberg - Are you a robot? | Oct 13 05:00 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #JacobinMag ☞ Philanthropy Is a Scam https://jacobinmag.com/2021/10/philanthropy-is-a-scam/ http://techrights.org/wiki/Gates_Foundation_Critique | Oct 13 05:00 |
| -altlink_cba/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: jacobinmag.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://jacobinmag.com/2021/10/philanthropy-is-a-scam/ | Oct 13 05:00 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jacobinmag.com | Philanthropy Is a Scam | Oct 13 05:00 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Gates Foundation Critique - Techrights | Oct 13 05:00 | |
| schestowitz-TR2 | jacobinmag clowned also | Oct 13 05:00 |
| forgetmenot | if you are interested, you can grab the entire data from https://archive.org/details/crimeflare or git (weekly update) | Oct 13 05:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-archive.org | Cloudflare Domains (October 2021) : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive | Oct 13 05:01 | |
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| schestowitz-TR2 | forgetmenot: no need, we see in real-time here | Oct 13 05:01 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | so a lot of our Daily Links basically point to clownflare | Oct 13 05:01 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | a silent giant of packet hoard | Oct 13 05:02 |
| activelow | gas prises: +440% from january to october | Oct 13 05:02 |
| activelow | prices | Oct 13 05:02 |
| forgetmenot | Not just government | Oct 13 05:02 |
| forgetmenot | Do you know how many % of banks in your country is CFed? | Oct 13 05:02 |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #Cracked #Censorship ☞ One Time, Pakistan Accidentally Brought Down #YouTube Worldwide https://www.cracked.com/article_31502_one-time-pakistan-accidentally-brought-down-youtube-worldwide.html | Oct 13 05:02 |
| -altlink_cba/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: cracked.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cracked.com/article_31502_one-time-pakistan-accidentally-brought-down-youtube-worldwide.html | Oct 13 05:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-One Time, Pakistan Accidentally Brought Down YouTube Worldwide | Cracked.com | Oct 13 05:02 | |
| forgetmenot | europe: https://git.disroot.org/dCF/deCloudflare/src/branch/master/subfiles/cloudflared_financial_europe.md | Oct 13 05:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.disroot.org | dCF/deCloudflare: The Great Cloudwall / Stop Cloudflare / #deCloudflare #GreatCloudwall #Crimeflare - subfiles/cloudflared_financial_europe.md at master - deCloudflare - Gitea: Git with a cup of tea | Oct 13 05:03 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #TimesHigherEducation #Censorship ☞ Kathleen Stock: #UCU statement ‘ends my career’ at Sussex https://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/kathleen-stock-ucu-statement-ends-my-career-sussex | Oct 13 05:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.timeshighereducation.com | Kathleen Stock: UCU statement ‘ends my career’ at Sussex | Times Higher Education (THE) | Oct 13 05:03 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #Axios #Censorship #Microsoft #China ☞ LinkedIn's unanswered questions about China censorship https://www.axios.com/linkedin-unanswered-questions-china-censorship-56b75495-230c-4dc2-9a29-6a35e2f8cec0.html | Oct 13 05:04 |
| -altlink_cba/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: axios.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.axios.com/linkedin-unanswered-questions-china-censorship-56b75495-230c-4dc2-9a29-6a35e2f8cec0.html | Oct 13 05:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-LinkedIn avoids key questions on China censorship - Axios | Oct 13 05:04 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #WSWS #Censorship ☞ Whistleblower testimony launches bipartisan campaign for #Facebook censorship https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2021/10/12/face-o12.html | Oct 13 05:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.wsws.org | Whistleblower testimony launches bipartisan campaign for Facebook censorship - World Socialist Web Site | Oct 13 05:04 | |
| GNUmoon2 | ClearView at it again, scrapped 10 Billions photos from Fakebook and boasting about it. https://www.wired.com/story/clearview-ai-new-tools-identify-you-photos/ | Oct 13 05:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Clearview AI Has New Tools to Identify You in Photos | WIRED | Oct 13 05:05 | |
| schestowitz-TR2 | criminals | Oct 13 05:05 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | both of them | Oct 13 05:05 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | they say they crack down on crime | Oct 13 05:05 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | same thing duterte says | Oct 13 05:05 |
| GNUmoon2 | One crime org helping another. | Oct 13 05:05 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | that's why we self-host our photos | Oct 13 05:05 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | but I am not sure if there's a law against clearview scrraping those too | Oct 13 05:06 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | or scaping off google image search | Oct 13 05:06 |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #MexicoNewsDaily ☞ 3 nights in a migrant detention center—for the crime of not carrying passport https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/5-days-in-a-migrant-detention-center/ "What I didn’t know is that someone had been fighting for my freedom from outside." | Oct 13 05:08 |
| -altlink_cba/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: mexiconewsdaily.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/5-days-in-a-migrant-detention-center/ | Oct 13 05:08 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mexiconewsdaily.com | 3 nights in a migrant detention center—for not carrying passport | Oct 13 05:08 | |
| GNUmoon2 | Yeah, probably not illegal to scraping. If it's online, it's fair game... | Oct 13 05:09 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | there was a Microsoft case | Oct 13 05:09 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | against scraping in linkedin | Oct 13 05:09 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | iirc, the criminals won | Oct 13 05:09 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | (microsott) | Oct 13 05:09 |
| techrights-news | "schematics or die" https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/fairphone-thoughts-commentary-with-louis:1 iophk: still uses the confusing term IP instead of #patents or #copyright | Oct 13 05:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-odysee.com | Fairphone thoughts & commentary with Louis Rossmann | Oct 13 05:12 | |
| forgetmenot | (https://odysee.com/ is a CF site - upsteamDB(sid) know this but altlinkDB(stable) is not) | Oct 13 05:13 |
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| schestowitz-TR2 | :-( | Oct 13 05:14 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | they can do video | Oct 13 05:14 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | but not web pages? | Oct 13 05:14 |
| techrights-news | #Fakenews from #npr ... there is NO SUCH AWARD! https://text.npr.org/1045152279 iophk: bankster propaganda award | Oct 13 05:14 |
| -altlink_cba/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: npr.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://text.npr.org/1045152279 | Oct 13 05:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-text.npr.org | A Nobel Prize for a revolution in economics | Oct 13 05:14 | |
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| schestowitz-TR2 | gn | Oct 13 05:16 |
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| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights ☞ #Adobe Uses #DMCA to Nuke Project That Keeps Flash Alive, Secure & Adware Free https://torrentfreak.com/adobe-uses-dmca-to-nuke-project-that-keeps-flash-alive-secure-adware-free-211012/ | Oct 13 08:55 |
| -altlink_22b/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: torrentfreak.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/adobe-uses-dmca-to-nuke-project-that-keeps-flash-alive-secure-adware-free-211012/ | Oct 13 08:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Adobe Uses DMCA to Nuke Project That Keeps Flash Alive, Secure & Adware Free * TorrentFreak | Oct 13 08:55 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights ☞ Google Opposes 'Sweeping' #PopcornTime #FileSharing Blocking Request https://torrentfreak.com/google-opposes-sweeping-popcorn-time-piracy-blocking-request-211012/ | Oct 13 08:56 |
| -altlink_22b/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: torrentfreak.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/google-opposes-sweeping-popcorn-time-piracy-blocking-request-211012/ | Oct 13 08:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Google Opposes 'Sweeping' Popcorn Time Piracy Blocking Request * TorrentFreak | Oct 13 08:56 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #KrebsOnSecurity #microsoft #nsa #fakesecurity ☞ Patch Tuesday, October 2021 Edition https://krebsonsecurity.com/2021/10/patch-tuesday-october-2021-edition/ | Oct 13 08:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-krebsonsecurity.com | Patch Tuesday, October 2021 Edition – Krebs on Security | Oct 13 08:57 | |
| techrights-news | “The ‘chip shortage’ ⚓ https://joindiaspora.com/posts/21744736 | Oct 13 08:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@glynmoody@joindiaspora.com: “The ‘chip shortage’ is something that the world doesn’t really grasp yet, in its full importance and magnitude. It is the first climate catastrophe related shortage to hit us at a civilizational, global level.” https://eand.co/why-everything-is-suddenly-getting-more-expensive-and-why-it-wont-stop-cbf5a091f403 interesting times... (v @opensourcerer) | Oct 13 08:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> eand.co | Why Everything is Suddenly Getting More Expensive — And Why It Won’t Stop | by umair haque | Oct, 2021 | Eudaimonia and Co | Oct 13 08:59 | |
| techrights-news | If you choose to #deleteTwitter https://www.maketecheasier.com/delete-anything-twitter/ | Oct 13 09:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | How to Delete Anything from Twitter Including Your Account - Make Tech Easier | Oct 13 09:03 | |
| techrights-news | Ｔｅｃｈｒｉｇｈｔｓ #IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 • 𝕋𝕖𝕔𝕙𝕣𝕚𝕘𝕙𝕥𝕤 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/10/13/irc-log-121021/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/13/irc-log-121021/ | Oct 13 09:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 | Techrights | Oct 13 09:03 | |
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| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #EFF ☞ Coalition Against #Stalkerware Named J.D. Falk Award Winner for Raising Awareness About and Helping Victims of Malicious Spying Apps https://www.eff.org/press/releases/coalition-against-stalkerware-named-jd-falk-award-winner-raising-awareness-about-and | Oct 13 09:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | Coalition Against Stalkerware Named J.D. Falk Award Winner for Raising Awareness About and Helping Victims of Malicious Spying Apps | Electronic Frontier Foundation | Oct 13 09:53 | |
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| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #PIA ☞ Open Source Intelligence (OSINT) is Great for Catching Bad Actors; But It Can Also Be Used Against the Good Ones - You and Me https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/open-source-intelligence-osint-is-great-for-catching-bad-actors-but-it-can-also-be-used-against-the-good-ones-you-and-me/ | Oct 13 09:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.privateinternetaccess.com | Open Source Intelligence (OSINT) is Great for Catching Bad Actors; But It Can Also Be Used Against the Good Ones - You and Me | Oct 13 09:54 | |
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| techrights-news | "Slides from tonight's #NUUG session" https://mastodon.social/@pitrh/107090222200927779 | Oct 13 10:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mastodon.social | Peter N. M. Hansteen: "Slides from tonight's #NUUG session, with links t…" - Mastodon | Oct 13 10:00 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #EFF ☞ Why Is #PayPal Denying Service to Palestinians? https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/10/why-paypal-denying-service-palestinians | Oct 13 10:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | Why Is PayPal Denying Service to Palestinians? | Electronic Frontier Foundation | Oct 13 10:02 | |
| techrights-news | "Please, don't panic: The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy has been published on October 12, 1979. Exactly 42 years ago" https://mastodon.social/@fribbledom/107089570901571234 | Oct 13 10:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mastodon.social | muesli: "Please, don't panic: The Hitchhiker's Guide to th…" - Mastodon | Oct 13 10:02 | |
| techrights-news | Freedom of the Press Foundation: "The Biden Admin must drop the charges against #Assange immediately" https://social.jesuislibre.net/@wikileaks/107085771778804220 #wikileaks | Oct 13 10:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Wikileaks [bot] : "ACLU: "The Government needs to drop the charges a…" - social.jesuislibre.net | Oct 13 10:03 | |
| techrights-news | "EU to ban anonymous websites and “whois privacy” services. The LIBE Committee supports indiscriminatory identification of domain registrars:" https://chaos.social/@echo_pbreyer/107089054499489198 | Oct 13 10:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Patrick Breyer: "🇬🇧 #Cybersecurity: EU to ban anonymous websites a…" - chaos.social | Oct 13 10:04 | |
| techrights-news | "you can run gemini from home" http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-121021.html#tOct%2012%2000:48:47 | Oct 13 10:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 | Oct 13 10:04 | |
| techrights-news | "World War 2 and the Cold War were both intense geopolitical conflicts in which one of the weapons was memetic warfare. Specifically, spreading a generalised sense of social anger and distrust through conspiracy theories. " https://mastodon.social/@natecull/107091390301519876 | Oct 13 10:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mastodon.social | Nate Cull: "World War 2 and the Cold War were both intense ge…" - Mastodon | Oct 13 10:05 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #EFF #Censorship ☞ Records Shed New Light on #Trump White House Officials’ Efforts to Punish #SocialControlMedia https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/10/records-shed-new-light-trump-white-house-officials-efforts-punish-social-media | Oct 13 10:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | Records Shed New Light on Trump White House Officials’ Efforts to Punish Social Media | Electronic Frontier Foundation | Oct 13 10:06 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #TheNation ☞ How “Terror Capitalism” Links #Uyghur Oppression to the Global Economy https://www.thenation.com/article/world/xinjiang-uyghur-terror-capitalism/ | Oct 13 10:11 |
| -altlink_22b/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: thenation.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.thenation.com/article/world/xinjiang-uyghur-terror-capitalism/ | Oct 13 10:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenation.com | How “Terror Capitalism” Links Uyghur Oppression to the Global Economy | The Nation | Oct 13 10:11 | |
| techrights-news | #china is not the trouble of the US but the factory of the United States; American oligarchs got richer on the backs of many millions of oppressed and impoverished Chinese people. If you think 'i' devices are an American product of #apple then you have a lot of reading up or catching up to do... | Oct 13 10:14 |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #CreativeCommons ☞ License Stewardship consultation https://creativecommons.org/2021/10/12/license-stewardship-consultation/ http://techrights.org/2021/04/04/an-elephant-in-the-room-creative-commons/ | Oct 13 10:14 |
| -altlink_22b/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: creativecommons.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://creativecommons.org/2021/10/12/license-stewardship-consultation/ | Oct 13 10:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-creativecommons.org | License Stewardship consultation - Creative Commons | Oct 13 10:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Has CC Become a Google Drone? | Techrights | Oct 13 10:14 | |
| techrights-news | Energy prices soaring just in time for... when in the northern hemisphere usage of energy skyrockets. Never mind #pandemic aspects. | Oct 13 10:16 |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #TruthOut ☞ A Grim Winter Looms. These Activists Are Keeping Spirits Up Through Organizing. https://truthout.org/articles/a-grim-winter-looms-these-activists-are-keeping-spirits-up-through-organizing/ | Oct 13 10:17 |
| -altlink_22b/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: truthout.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://truthout.org/articles/a-grim-winter-looms-these-activists-are-keeping-spirits-up-through-organizing/ | Oct 13 10:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | A Grim Winter Looms. These Activists Are Keeping Spirits Up Through Organizing. | Oct 13 10:17 | |
| techrights-news | Tonight, for the third night in a row, #techrights will focus on #switzerland | Oct 13 10:17 |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #CommonDreams #patent #patents #monopolies #greed ☞ Amid Corporate Dems' Threats, New Poll Shows 83% of Voters Back Drug Pricing Reform https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/10/12/amid-corporate-dems-threats-new-poll-shows-83-voters-back-drug-pricing-reform | Oct 13 10:26 |
| -altlink_22b/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: commondreams.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/10/12/amid-corporate-dems-threats-new-poll-shows-83-voters-back-drug-pricing-reform | Oct 13 10:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Amid Corporate Dems' Threats, New Poll Shows 83% of Voters Back Drug Pricing Reform | Oct 13 10:26 | |
| Techrights-sec | I guess there are now CoCs that prevent any criticism at all of companies. | Oct 13 10:30 |
| Techrights-sec | I presume that those are also enforced selectively, at that. | Oct 13 10:30 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | This is what companies do when they are losing; we need to respond shrewdly to such new restrictions | Oct 13 10:30 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | CoC: CODE AND SHUT THE FUCK UP | Oct 13 10:31 |
| Techrights-sec | Not even that, it's not just about shutting people up, it is getting them | Oct 13 10:38 |
| Techrights-sec | to code bad (mis-)features that advance certain companies at the expense of | Oct 13 10:38 |
| Techrights-sec | all others and all people. | Oct 13 10:38 |
| Techrights-sec | That's a little different that an amoral head down and code attitude. | Oct 13 10:38 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | systemd :-) | Oct 13 10:38 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | criticising it is "intolerance" | Oct 13 10:38 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | "harassment" | Oct 13 10:38 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | watch out | Oct 13 10:38 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | the anti-harassment team(R) is watching you ;-) | Oct 13 10:39 |
| Techrights-sec | Labelling the opposite of what they actually do. :/ | Oct 13 10:42 |
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| techrights-news | [Meme] [Teaser] Swiss Alexandre Benallas http://techrights.org/2021/10/13/swiss-armed-bullies/ #epo #corruption #france #switzerland #ch | Oct 13 10:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] [Teaser] Swiss Alexandre Benallas | Techrights | Oct 13 10:50 | |
| schestowitz-TR2 | leah: good morning | Oct 13 10:50 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | you said you had admired the Swiss political model | Oct 13 10:50 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | you might want to read the latest 7 posts in : | Oct 13 10:50 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/EPO | Oct 13 10:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO - Techrights | Oct 13 10:50 | |
| schestowitz-TR2 | there's more to .ch than cows, chocolate, and cheese ;-) | Oct 13 10:51 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | we have two more articles coming tonight | Oct 13 10:51 |
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| psydruid | https://www.cambriantechnologies.com/blog/2021/03/27/the-ramifications-of-the-decline-of-the-x86-chip-architecture/ | Oct 13 10:58 |
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| psydruid | I think all the Intel and Microsoft spam we are seeing now are a last-ditch effort to make the companies still look relevant | Oct 13 10:58 |
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| psydruid | this is an old one on Tom's Hardware of all places, but the things mentioned there have actually happened | Oct 13 10:59 |
| psydruid | https://www.tomshardware.com/news/microsoft-wintel-intel-processor-windows,17355.html | Oct 13 10:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tomshardware.com | Report: The Wintel Era is Finally Declining | Tom's Hardware | Oct 13 10:59 | |
| schestowitz-TR2 | psydruid: I noticed something | Oct 13 11:00 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | hang on, bear with me | Oct 13 11:00 |
| schestowitz | yesterday I saw https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share#monthly-200901-202101 | Oct 13 11:00 |
| -altlink_22b/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: statcounter.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share#monthly-200901-202101 | Oct 13 11:00 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gs.statcounter.com | Operating System Market Share Worldwide | Statcounter Global Stats | Oct 13 11:00 | |
| schestowitz | it LOOKS like the PAID-FOR hype give them a tiny gain | Oct 13 11:01 |
| schestowitz | which I suppose marketing can do | Oct 13 11:01 |
| schestowitz | when you offload barrels of money at "media" | Oct 13 11:01 |
| schestowitz | and get people curious about Service Pack '11' | Oct 13 11:01 |
| schestowitz | but now... | Oct 13 11:01 |
| schestowitz | they need to maintain ANOTHER version | Oct 13 11:01 |
| activelow | if the OS market share misses azure threadX then it is - void | Oct 13 11:01 |
| schestowitz | how often will Windows Update brick Service Pack '10' | Oct 13 11:02 |
| psydruid | so it's more like a Pyrrhic victory? | Oct 13 11:02 |
| schestowitz | and how long before a 'fix'? (Rubber band) | Oct 13 11:02 |
| schestowitz | activelow: it's barely relevant | Oct 13 11:02 |
| psydruid | Service Pack '10' keeps breaking itself all the time | Oct 13 11:02 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft just bought some company | Oct 13 11:02 |
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| schestowitz | to pretend that Azure is relevant | Oct 13 11:02 |
| schestowitz | when in fact is has tiny market share | Oct 13 11:02 |
| schestowitz | they just hype it up in paid-for media | Oct 13 11:02 |
| schestowitz | IBM tried to do the same with its 'clown' | Oct 13 11:02 |
| schestowitz | psydruid: after all this hype only 1% in gain? | Oct 13 11:03 |
| schestowitz | Seems pathetic | Oct 13 11:03 |
| schestowitz | they bleed several %s per year | Oct 13 11:03 |
| psydruid | indeed | Oct 13 11:03 |
| schestowitz | and the marketing/media hype stopped | Oct 13 11:03 |
| activelow | short notice: this is the leading two OS deployed, 1) azure threadx rtos 2) minix (intelME) | Oct 13 11:03 |
| schestowitz | last week: WSL now in Vista 11 | Oct 13 11:03 |
| psydruid | it's not working out like it did in the 90s or 2000s | Oct 13 11:03 |
| schestowitz | This week: WSL now in STORE!!! | Oct 13 11:03 |
| schestowitz | They recycle old spam | Oct 13 11:03 |
| schestowitz | Phoronix, techradar, Liliputing and SJCN help them | Oct 13 11:04 |
| schestowitz | at expense to their credibility | Oct 13 11:04 |
| psydruid | activelow, I have none of those | Oct 13 11:04 |
| schestowitz | I could name a few more sites | Oct 13 11:04 |
| schestowitz | It's FOSS | Oct 13 11:04 |
| schestowitz | CNX Software | Oct 13 11:04 |
| *psydruid will never buy a Raspberry Pi | Oct 13 11:04 | |
| schestowitz | activelow: it's not aazure | Oct 13 11:04 |
| psydruid | yes | Oct 13 11:04 |
| schestowitz | it's jyst a dying brand | Oct 13 11:04 |
| schestowitz | they bought some company | Oct 13 11:04 |
| schestowitz | slapped their brand on it | Oct 13 11:04 |
| schestowitz | so they can claim "azure" is widely deployed | Oct 13 11:05 |
| activelow | psydruid: threadx is deployed elsewhere, however microsoft had to tell where those 6billion deployments are which they announce | Oct 13 11:05 |
| psydruid | activelow, (actual) embedded devices? | Oct 13 11:05 |
| schestowitz | activelow: let's agree to disagree on this one | Oct 13 11:05 |
| schestowitz | it's more of a PR stunty | Oct 13 11:05 |
| schestowitz | so they can slap it on some Web page | Oct 13 11:06 |
| schestowitz | psydruid: they bought some company two years ago | Oct 13 11:06 |
| schestowitz | threw the "Azure" brand on that | Oct 13 11:06 |
| schestowitz | to use "recency" PR | Oct 13 11:06 |
| schestowitz | they also lose lots of money on ShitHub | Oct 13 11:06 |
| psydruid | I knew about ThreadX in 2017 | Oct 13 11:06 |
| schestowitz | they paid in shares for a losing operation | Oct 13 11:06 |
| activelow | don't think so, microsoft doesn't aggressively market the "niche", and labeling it azure is misleading too | Oct 13 11:06 |
| schestowitz | just to pretend to still matter | Oct 13 11:06 |
| psydruid | and that's why I bought an Orange Pi and not a Raspberry Pi | Oct 13 11:06 |
| schestowitz | same in skype, linkedin... | Oct 13 11:06 |
| schestowitz | it's another nokia | Oct 13 11:07 |
| psydruid | and I'm glad for that | Oct 13 11:07 |
| schestowitz | another write-off | Oct 13 11:07 |
| schestowitz | LinkedIn had tons of layoffs last year | Oct 13 11:07 |
| psydruid | what are alternatives to ThreadX? | Oct 13 11:07 |
| psydruid | and who uses it even? | Oct 13 11:07 |
| psydruid | I think it will always go like this | Oct 13 11:07 |
| schestowitz | there is NO ThreadX, psydruid :-) | Oct 13 11:07 |
| schestowitz | now it's "AZURE" | Oct 13 11:07 |
| schestowitz | whatrever that is | Oct 13 11:07 |
| schestowitz | "clown" | Oct 13 11:07 |
| schestowitz | vapour | Oct 13 11:07 |
| psydruid | $BIGCOMPANY buys $TECHNOLOGY, so $OTHERCOMPANY buys $OTHERTECHNOLOGY to replace $TECHNOLOGY | Oct 13 11:08 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | Team is HUGE | Oct 13 11:08 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | "we rebranded SKYPE FOR BUSINESS" | Oct 13 11:08 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | *Teams | Oct 13 11:08 |
| psydruid | everything Microsoft buys inevitably dies eventually | Oct 13 11:08 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | 10003342% GROWTH | Oct 13 11:08 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | by rebranding | Oct 13 11:08 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | they beleed money | Oct 13 11:09 |
| psydruid | oh right | Oct 13 11:09 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | just to seem relevant | Oct 13 11:09 |
| psydruid | Azure RTOS | Oct 13 11:09 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and then run to Trump | Oct 13 11:09 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | help us buy TikTok | Oct 13 11:09 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | help us win JEDI | Oct 13 11:09 |
| psydruid | designed and developed by brilliant Microsoft developers | Oct 13 11:09 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | Hey, BIDEN, give us $22,000,000,000 for this company we KILLED | Oct 13 11:09 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | HoloLens | Oct 13 11:09 |
| psydruid | sanctioned by Dave Cutler and Gordon Bell | Oct 13 11:09 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | All staff fired shortly after Microsoft had bought them | Oct 13 11:09 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | realised they bought a DUD | Oct 13 11:09 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | for some shallow Vista 10 marketing | Oct 13 11:09 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | which only lasted a few weeks | Oct 13 11:10 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and nobody taked about it after that | Oct 13 11:10 |
| psydruid | I don't even know what Mixxer and HoloLens are | Oct 13 11:10 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | Mixxer | Oct 13 11:10 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | killed also | Oct 13 11:10 |
| psydruid | never seen or used them | Oct 13 11:10 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | all the fools who participated there | Oct 13 11:10 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | liquidated by Microsoft | Oct 13 11:10 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | we wrote about Mixxer | Oct 13 11:10 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | we used to keep track of dead Microsoft things | Oct 13 11:10 |
| psydruid | I read about it, but I still have no clue what it is lol | Oct 13 11:11 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wiki/Microsoft_-_Dead_Divisions_or_Products | Oct 13 11:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft - Dead Divisions or Products - Techrights | Oct 13 11:11 | |
| schestowitz | we stopped about a decade ago | Oct 13 11:11 |
| schestowitz | started to focus more on patents | Oct 13 11:11 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | psydruid: i think it's some "social" media thingie | Oct 13 11:11 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | like Discord | Oct 13 11:11 |
| psydruid | ah | Oct 13 11:12 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | does discord actually make any money? | Oct 13 11:12 |
| psydruid | I don't think so | Oct 13 11:12 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | me neither | Oct 13 11:12 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | what business model? | Oct 13 11:12 |
| psydruid | but they got an investment recently | Oct 13 11:12 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I never heard of anyone paying for it | Oct 13 11:12 |
| psydruid | so they can coast on for a while longer | Oct 13 11:12 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | psydruid: so did shithub | Oct 13 11:12 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | they bet on being bought I guess | Oct 13 11:12 |
| psydruid | they branched out into games, but no one was buying those | Oct 13 11:12 |
| psydruid | and they were all Windows-only | Oct 13 11:12 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | Google can use the to integrate users into other disservices | Oct 13 11:12 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | like gmail | Oct 13 11:12 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and then harvest chats in discord for user data and keystrokes | Oct 13 11:13 |
| psydruid | yes | Oct 13 11:13 |
| psydruid | even some nominally FOSS projects have moved their chats to Discord | Oct 13 11:13 |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #CounterPunch #Germany #de ☞ Who Won Germany’s Election in 2021? https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/10/12/who-won-germanys-election-in-2021/ | Oct 13 11:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Who Won Germany’s Election in 2021? - CounterPunch.org | Oct 13 11:13 | |
| psydruid | which is an incredibly short-sighted and stupid thing to do in my opinion | Oct 13 11:14 |
| schestowitz | "All in all, 25.7% voted for the center-mildly-progressive social-democratic party SPD. With that, the SPD overtook Germany’s conservatives and strong-state favoring CDU – Angela Merkel’s political party" | Oct 13 11:14 |
| schestowitz | SPD, activelow | Oct 13 11:14 |
| schestowitz | the ones who stopped responding to my mails after the election | Oct 13 11:14 |
| activelow | schestowitz: SPD lost millions of party members | Oct 13 11:14 |
| schestowitz | I guess talking about EPO crimes was no longer of "use" to them | Oct 13 11:14 |
| activelow | same with CDU | Oct 13 11:14 |
| activelow | and the real majority in national parliament is CDU+FDP/AFD | Oct 13 11:14 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I see... | Oct 13 11:15 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | activelow: btw | Oct 13 11:15 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | if you read the new series on switzerland | Oct 13 11:15 |
| psydruid | we still have no new government after elections in March ... | Oct 13 11:15 |
| activelow | i name FDP/AFD in conjunction because those two parties represent left and right-wing liberalism (regardless of their followers and campaigning) | Oct 13 11:15 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | the centre of it is christian bock | Oct 13 11:15 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | he's german | Oct 13 11:15 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | naturalised as swiss | Oct 13 11:15 |
| psydruid | and we may end up having new elections | Oct 13 11:15 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | right wing, too | Oct 13 11:15 |
| psydruid | maybe that's why Microsoft and WSL fanboys are attacking me | Oct 13 11:16 |
| psydruid | all that money invested and very little coming out of it | Oct 13 11:16 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | [11:16] <psydruid> maybe that's why Microsoft and WSL fanboys are attacking me | Oct 13 11:17 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | wait | Oct 13 11:17 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | that means it hurts | Oct 13 11:17 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | do more of the same | Oct 13 11:17 |
| psydruid | no one wants to be exposted like that | Oct 13 11:17 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | remember: | Oct 13 11:17 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | we had #1 fan of WSL here in IRC | Oct 13 11:17 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | several times | Oct 13 11:17 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | cloaked as just some random Joe | Oct 13 11:17 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | he quit | Oct 13 11:17 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | earlier this year he quit WSL completely | Oct 13 11:17 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | he tried to invite us all, here in IRC, to his WSL 'conf' | Oct 13 11:17 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | that did not go well | Oct 13 11:17 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | anyway, he mostly vanished | Oct 13 11:17 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | moved to rancher | Oct 13 11:18 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | (suse) | Oct 13 11:18 |
| psydruid | I will continue doing it, but they do make me into an "insulting person" for calling people out who insult me first | Oct 13 11:18 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | we have good rebuttals re WSL | Oct 13 11:18 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | what it is | Oct 13 11:18 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | how it failed | Oct 13 11:18 |
| psydruid | this is gaslighting level 11 on a scale from 0 to 10 | Oct 13 11:18 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | how developers fled | Oct 13 11:18 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | the astroturfing | Oct 13 11:18 |
| psydruid | unfortunately for them it doesn't work for me | Oct 13 11:18 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | the bribed-for 'media' 'coverage' | Oct 13 11:18 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | (Ads) | Oct 13 11:18 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | they wasted maybe 20 million on it | Oct 13 11:18 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | for just hundreds of thousands of useds | Oct 13 11:19 |
| psydruid | I did actually attend the WSL conf | Oct 13 11:19 |
| psydruid | but it was pure garbage | Oct 13 11:19 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | well, you upped their numbers | Oct 13 11:19 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | afaik, there will be no more such event | Oct 13 11:19 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | its organiser quit | Oct 13 11:19 |
| psydruid | "look at us doing great stuff on WSL that works 10 times better than on GNU/Linux" | Oct 13 11:19 |
| psydruid | I am even in their chat as an infiltrant | Oct 13 11:19 |
| psydruid | the irony | Oct 13 11:19 |
| psydruid | but I never saw anything of substance | Oct 13 11:20 |
| psydruid | -than* | Oct 13 11:20 |
| activelow | does WSL spawn a linux kernel at least? | Oct 13 11:20 |
| activelow | cygwin didn't it provided a libc and GNU userspace, but no linux kernel involved | Oct 13 11:20 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | activelow: no | Oct 13 11:21 |
| psydruid | I don't know, I never used it (or was used by it) | Oct 13 11:21 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | WSL2 does | Oct 13 11:21 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | WSL was a misnomer | Oct 13 11:21 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | no linux on it | Oct 13 11:21 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | just cygwin-like gnu-on-windows | Oct 13 11:21 |
| activelow | and WSL2 probably involves hardware-level virtualization, i suspect, not sure | Oct 13 11:21 |
| *schestowitz-TR2 tried cygwin several times more than 20 years agoi | Oct 13 11:21 | |
| schestowitz-TR2 | WSL is dead | Oct 13 11:22 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | but nobody wants to say it | Oct 13 11:22 |
| psydruid | WSLg will only "work" on Vista 11 | Oct 13 11:22 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | Microsoft NEVER admirs when its products die | Oct 13 11:22 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | Windows Phone | Oct 13 11:22 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | Silverlight | Oct 13 11:22 |
| psydruid | yeah, I call it dead and they deny it | Oct 13 11:22 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | it just dies 'silently' | Oct 13 11:22 |
| psydruid | I guess that really hurt | Oct 13 11:22 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | while they assure people, "no, it's OK, it's still there" | Oct 13 11:22 |
| activelow | i'm not interested in any microsoft windows product at all, and ignore all related tech "news" from "experts" on this | Oct 13 11:22 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | That's what happened to WSL some years ago | Oct 13 11:22 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | it's just shilled-for media | Oct 13 11:22 |
| psydruid | no, that's not the issue | Oct 13 11:23 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | shame on phoronix as a side note | Oct 13 11:23 |
| psydruid | spamming Microsoft ads keeps the real news out of the media | Oct 13 11:23 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | lately he has been back to helping Microsoft with "mindshare" | Oct 13 11:23 |
| psydruid | and they know that very well | Oct 13 11:23 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | because news was slow | Oct 13 11:23 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | [03:42] <techrights-news> Job ad (one person) as 'article' https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Red-Hat-New-2021-GPU-Developer | Oct 13 11:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Red Hat Is Hiring Another Linux Developer To Work On GPU Hardware Enablement - Phoronix | Oct 13 11:23 | |
| activelow | i quit recognising windows as a relevant system when some windows version didn't support .Net3.x and insisted on some update, not sure when this was | Oct 13 11:23 |
| activelow | because, from a merely technical perspective, and although i disguise microsoft products, rapid application development with .Net was a thing relevant for some | Oct 13 11:24 |
| psydruid | I quit recognising windows in 2000, but it took me some time to move everything over to GNU/Linux | Oct 13 11:24 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | my last windows was win98 | Oct 13 11:24 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | so my windows days were like, what? 5 years? | Oct 13 11:24 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | maybe a little longer, prior to that it was DOSes | Oct 13 11:24 |
| activelow | just saying, never considered .Net again, and didn't touch any java in 5 years anymore either, never will again | Oct 13 11:24 |
| psydruid | I used windows 2000 alongside SUSE, Mandrake and Red Hat until it was time to get rid of it | Oct 13 11:24 |
| psydruid | in 2002 | Oct 13 11:25 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | in early windows many "apps" were running off of DOS | Oct 13 11:25 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | Windows was like a GUI wrapped for DOS | Oct 13 11:25 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | your games would run off of DOS | Oct 13 11:25 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | not even MS-DOS | Oct 13 11:25 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | Windows was for minesweeper and stuff | Oct 13 11:25 |
| psydruid | 5 years it was for me too | Oct 13 11:25 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | even much software was still DOS-like | Oct 13 11:25 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | image editors and file managers | Oct 13 11:26 |
| psydruid | that's why I feel handicapped on a windows system | Oct 13 11:26 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I didn't use Windows file management | Oct 13 11:26 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | Norton Commander was easier to work wiht | Oct 13 11:26 |
| psydruid | I know GNU/Linux much better | Oct 13 11:26 |
| activelow | strangely IBM and Microsoft seem to hack and slay each other too, and i was the one to suffer from this, forced to learn a shitload of useless short-lived stuff | Oct 13 11:26 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | by that stage, kde was already getting its file manager that's better than Windows' | Oct 13 11:26 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | inc. Krusader iirc | Oct 13 11:26 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | Midnight Commander | Oct 13 11:26 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | Koqueror | Oct 13 11:26 |
| *leah has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) | Oct 13 11:27 | |
| schestowitz-TR2 | activelow: IBM and Mirosoft aree similiar now | Oct 13 11:27 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | they buy back their OWN share | Oct 13 11:27 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | to fake relevance and stability | Oct 13 11:27 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | IBM also bought Red Hat | Oct 13 11:27 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | Microsoft bought GitHub | Oct 13 11:27 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | then they tell shareholders, "look! We're still ahead of the curve" | Oct 13 11:27 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | Red Hat was maybe worth 10 billion | Oct 13 11:28 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | maybe | Oct 13 11:28 |
| activelow | if you're interested, i wasn't impressed by redhat9 (predating fedora), when i saw this around year 2002 i though: "what would i want with this, looks like win3.11" | Oct 13 11:28 |
| activelow | little later openbsd relieved some of the stress | Oct 13 11:28 |
| activelow | i didn't turn from windows to gnu/linux, i departed from windows to BSD | Oct 13 11:29 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | Red Hat just sells support for something which is free anyway | Oct 13 11:29 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I saw people moving away from them | Oct 13 11:29 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | due to pricing | Oct 13 11:29 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | they always say they're ripped off | Oct 13 11:29 |
| activelow | and from BSD to gentoo, which shares some highly relevant characteristics of BSD, not GNU/Linux and the apt/rpm binary stuff | Oct 13 11:29 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | just to sign some papers that let them blame Red Hat | Oct 13 11:29 |
| psydruid | I started using Windows and GNU/Linux at about the same time | Oct 13 11:29 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | before systemd and wayland you could easily switch between distros | Oct 13 11:30 |
| psydruid | I just phased out Windows after 5 years | Oct 13 11:30 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | or just use the many RHEL clones | Oct 13 11:30 |
| psydruid | and after that I got to know about BSD and Solaris | Oct 13 11:30 |
| activelow | GNU/Linux is dominated by RPM/APT type systems, and this isn't something i feel comfortable with at all | Oct 13 11:30 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | not anymore | Oct 13 11:30 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | they hope | Oct 13 11:30 |
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| schestowitz-TR2 | anorher vector: | Oct 13 11:31 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | make centralised "stores" | Oct 13 11:31 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | like flathub | Oct 13 11:31 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | next stage (IBM/Google) is this: | Oct 13 11:31 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2021/03/11/fake-security-brought-by-lf/ | Oct 13 11:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Fake Security From Linux Foundation and the Monopolies It’s Fronting for | Techrights | Oct 13 11:31 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148632 | Oct 13 11:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: Git, Tor, and Fake (Monopolised, Centralised) 'Security' From Linux Foundation | Tux Machines | Oct 13 11:32 | |
| schestowitz-TR2 | activelow: I welcome you to the "LINUS STORE" | Oct 13 11:32 |
| activelow | schestowitz: if gentoo support for swapping linux kernel against a BSD one didn't cease (around 2013), i had considered BSD Kernel | Oct 13 11:33 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | You have to unscrew this thing to install "untrusted" software | Oct 13 11:33 |
| activelow | but, i do need the gentoo tooling for anything else than kernel, and it isn't easy to retain gentoo and integrate a BSD kernel with it | Oct 13 11:33 |
| activelow | it is possible, however, efforts; and... features | Oct 13 11:33 |
| activelow | and, linux kernel isn't among those components i worry most about | Oct 13 11:34 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | for desktop? | Oct 13 11:34 |
| activelow | because, linux kernel devs remained cautious to keep it modular, so components i do not want can be removed | Oct 13 11:34 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | from what I recall, you use direct framebuffer and cli | Oct 13 11:34 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | activelow: soon rust all over kernel space | Oct 13 11:35 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | very very moduilar | Oct 13 11:35 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | just cargo this and that | Oct 13 11:35 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | $ github pull | Oct 13 11:35 |
| activelow | schestowitz-TR2: as soon as i encounter compilation issues i will dispose linux kernel | Oct 13 11:35 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | they already EEE the 'git' command | Oct 13 11:35 |
| activelow | i blacklisted llvm/clang already, and ideally i could have compiled linux kernel with tinycc/pcc but didn't try nor manage yet, it isn't known to be supported | Oct 13 11:36 |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #Patent #patents #monopoly ☞ Protest at US Embassy in #SouthAfrica Demands #Biden 'Walk the Talk' on Vaccine Patent Waiver https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/10/12/protest-us-embassy-south-africa-demands-biden-walk-talk-vaccine-patent-waiver | Oct 13 11:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Protest at US Embassy in South Africa Demands Biden 'Walk the Talk' on Vaccine Patent Waiver | Oct 13 11:36 | |
| activelow | sorry psydruid, didn't mean to interrupt. anyway, if linux enforces rust then it will be disposed in a minute and not reconsidered anymore by me | Oct 13 11:37 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | makes sense | Oct 13 11:38 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I like it, activelow | Oct 13 11:38 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | you do your own thing, your way | Oct 13 11:38 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | not many people exercise freedom at that level | Oct 13 11:38 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | it's torturous to most | Oct 13 11:38 |
| activelow | it's ok if linux utilises clang for static code analysis, it isn't anymore as soon as linux kernel enforces rust-compiler being present | Oct 13 11:40 |
| activelow | it is a burden already GCC is enforced effectively, instead of something sane | Oct 13 11:40 |
| techrights-news | Best #FreeSW Alternatives to Microsoft Office • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156718 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 13 11:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Microsoft Office | Tux Machines | Oct 13 11:41 | |
| techrights-news | #Google #Android Leftovers • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156719 #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 13 11:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Oct 13 11:41 | |
| techrights-news | #Clapper – A New Gnome Media Player for Linux • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156720 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 13 11:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Clapper – A New Gnome Media Player for Linux | Tux Machines | Oct 13 11:42 | |
| schestowitz-TR2 | activelow: but it's needed a lot | Oct 13 11:42 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | for cross-platform at the least | Oct 13 11:42 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | it has been maturing for almost 40 years | Oct 13 11:42 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | feel free to write linkers again | Oct 13 11:42 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | your way | Oct 13 11:42 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | then add up symbols | Oct 13 11:42 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and make your own compiler | Oct 13 11:42 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | for 20 processors | Oct 13 11:42 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | it's a monumental task | Oct 13 11:42 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | then to catch all the bugs which otherwise cause crashes | Oct 13 11:43 |
| activelow | compilers exist which consist of a few thousand lines of code, just saying | Oct 13 11:43 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | the monopolies hoped non-reciprocal ('permissive') llvm/clang would take off | Oct 13 11:43 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | after a decade of promises, or more, it's nowhere near gcc | Oct 13 11:43 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | even gcc-hostile companies still use gcc | Oct 13 11:43 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | suse, ibm... | Oct 13 11:43 |
| activelow | and yes, this is the idea of *free and opensource software*, that homebrew and hackers and students can do it | Oct 13 11:43 |
| activelow | instead it is only corporations who blow up the entire system and tooling beyond repair, with only them who benefit from this | Oct 13 11:44 |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #Techdirt #Internet ☞ Why #Section230 'Reform' Effectively Means Section 230 Repeal https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211004/11400447697/why-section-230-reform-effectively-means-section-230-repeal.shtml | Oct 13 11:44 |
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| schestowitz-TR2 | activelow: true | Oct 13 11:44 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | [10:38] <Techrights-sec> Not even that, it's not just about shutting people up, it is getting them | Oct 13 11:45 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | [10:38] <Techrights-sec> to code bad (mis-)features that advance certain companies at the expense of | Oct 13 11:45 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | [10:38] <Techrights-sec> all others and all people. | Oct 13 11:45 |
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| psydruid | activelow, no problem, I am glad for you and everyone else to participate in these conversations | Oct 13 11:53 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I find these fascinatiung | Oct 13 11:54 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | why? | Oct 13 11:54 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | because no site covers these issue | Oct 13 11:55 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | not even forums that I know of | Oct 13 11:55 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | maybe except gentoo and lfs 'ricers' | Oct 13 11:55 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | though they too don't care | Oct 13 11:55 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | they want theit startx | Oct 13 11:55 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | they hardly care about what's in the hardware | Oct 13 11:55 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | RMS barely talks about those issue | Oct 13 11:56 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | he addresses the matters from a higher level of abstraction | Oct 13 11:56 |
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| schestowitz-TR2 | such as, can the state control you? What about vendors? How to collectively tackle this? | Oct 13 11:56 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | GNU was started because of hardware or driver | Oct 13 11:56 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | xerox | Oct 13 11:56 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | not because of software per se | Oct 13 11:57 |
| schestowitz | https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/201cthe-printer-story201d-redux-a-testimonial-about-the-injustice-of-proprietary-firmware | Oct 13 11:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fsf.org | “The printer story” redux: a testimonial about the injustice of proprietary firmware — Free Software Foundation — Working together for free software | Oct 13 11:57 | |
| schestowitz | "As part of his explanation of the early history of free software, Richard Stallman (RMS) often tells a story about his frustration with the locked-down software on a laser printer. If you're not familiar with the printer story, you can read it in RMS's own words here. It's an early, easy-to-understand example of how proprietary software deprives users of control over their lives." | Oct 13 11:57 |
| schestowitz | embedded | Oct 13 11:57 |
| schestowitz | raw: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/rms-nyu-2001-transcript.txt | Oct 13 11:58 |
| schestowitz | btw, the 2020 (latest) build of netsurf works great with gnu.org and fsf.orgf | Oct 13 11:58 |
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| psydruid | it has always worked well for me on proper websites | Oct 13 12:01 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | report to me if it does not work with ours | Oct 13 12:02 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I know our videos imperil it | Oct 13 12:02 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | netsurf was not make to be a "video player" | Oct 13 12:02 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | some time along the way, with wmv, browsers tried to become media players | Oct 13 12:02 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | later flash | Oct 13 12:02 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | then GoogleTube | Oct 13 12:02 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | Google Video | Oct 13 12:02 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | then YouTube | Oct 13 12:03 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | then merged | Oct 13 12:03 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | now just a lousy JavaScript "app" | Oct 13 12:03 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | or no play | Oct 13 12:03 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | in ukraine, RMS spoke about invidious at long last | Oct 13 12:03 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | comment from the audience | Oct 13 12:03 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | first talk in two years | Oct 13 12:03 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | he's in france now | Oct 13 12:03 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I have no use for his talks there because I'm not a francophone | Oct 13 12:04 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | he gives two talks | Oct 13 12:04 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | let me check if any is online.. | Oct 13 12:04 |
| schestowitz | http://audio-video.gnu.org/video/#2021 | Oct 13 12:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-audio-video.gnu.org | Audio/Video - GNU Project - Free-Software Foundation | Oct 13 12:04 | |
| schestowitz | https://stallmansupport.org/updates.html | Oct 13 12:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallmansupport.org | Updates | Stallman Support | Oct 13 12:04 | |
| schestowitz-TR2 | oh, the first link shows our video | Oct 13 12:05 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | they're just officially added the video transcoded by techrights | Oct 13 12:05 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | in techrights we got like 12k hits on it as of 2 weeks ago | Oct 13 12:06 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | surely more by now | Oct 13 12:06 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | it cuts off the worse bits at the start | Oct 13 12:06 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | where he acts a bit rudely (to my taste) | Oct 13 12:06 |
| psydruid | I watched that one for the most part | Oct 13 12:08 |
| psydruid | maybe half the Q&A session | Oct 13 12:08 |
| psydruid | let me see what the French one is about | Oct 13 12:08 |
| techrights-news | #RMS giving talks in #france 3 days and 9 days from now. In-person talks for francophones https://stallman.org/talks.html | Oct 13 12:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | Talks - Richard Stallman | Oct 13 12:08 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #TruthOut #patent #patents ☞ Poll Finds 88 Percent Support Sanders’s Plan to Lower Prescription Drug Prices https://truthout.org/articles/poll-finds-88-percent-support-sanderss-plan-to-lower-prescription-drug-prices/ | Oct 13 12:09 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Poll Finds 88 Percent Support Sanders’s Plan to Lower Prescription Drug Prices | Oct 13 12:09 | |
| schestowitz-TR2 | psydruid: to me, the q and a is more interesting | Oct 13 12:09 |
| psydruid | did he also do one in Italian? | Oct 13 12:10 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | because the rest is sort of introductory and thus repetitive | Oct 13 12:10 |
| psydruid | yes, I just didn't manage to finish it | Oct 13 12:10 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | psydruid: he does not speak italian | Oct 13 12:10 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | es/fr/en | Oct 13 12:10 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | my wife speaks 5 | Oct 13 12:10 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | epo staff speaks at least 3 | Oct 13 12:10 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | maybe not anymore | Oct 13 12:11 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | hiring standards have COLLAPSED | Oct 13 12:11 |
| psydruid | I speak more | Oct 13 12:11 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | good | Oct 13 12:11 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | so you can compare | Oct 13 12:11 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | in england people can barely compare languages | Oct 13 12:11 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | in US they have spanish | Oct 13 12:11 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | Englishman: if you don't speak my language, you are "dumb" and "sound funny" | Oct 13 12:11 |
| psydruid | at some point my manager was telling colleagues that I spoke all the "languages in the world" | Oct 13 12:12 |
| psydruid | which isn't true of course | Oct 13 12:12 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | funny thing is, many brexiters can't even do english right :-) | Oct 13 12:12 |
| psydruid | 😀 | Oct 13 12:12 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | "ih mate" | Oct 13 12:12 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | "oi!!" | Oct 13 12:13 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | "fokin dis" | Oct 13 12:13 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | psydruid: if you cover mandarin, tamil(s), and english, than you can speak to like 2/3 of the world | Oct 13 12:14 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | if spanish too, maybe 80% | Oct 13 12:14 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | many who speak spanish can also do english | Oct 13 12:14 |
| psydruid | I don't speak mandarin and tamil, but I speak a few indian languages and spanish and english | Oct 13 12:15 |
| psydruid | persian too | Oct 13 12:15 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | a friend of mine speaks persian | Oct 13 12:16 |
| psydruid | the basics of a few slavic and scandinavian languages | Oct 13 12:16 |
| psydruid | native in dutch and fluent in english and german | Oct 13 12:16 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | ah, maybe I can get your help sometimes | Oct 13 12:17 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | with EPO reports | Oct 13 12:17 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | right now we get lots of articles translated | Oct 13 12:17 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | but next in the list if french, portuguese, and spanish | Oct 13 12:17 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | after that austria, so german | Oct 13 12:17 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/15-Rödler-Press-Release-March-2007.pdf abd http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/15-Parliamentary-Inquiry-No.-2-Oct-2009.pdf | Oct 13 12:17 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | that's for Sunday | Oct 13 12:18 |
| psydruid | I worked with french at my job for almost a year | Oct 13 12:18 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | sorry to hear that :-) | Oct 13 12:18 |
| psydruid | so that would be my fourth best european language, spanish my fifth | Oct 13 12:18 |
| psydruid | yeah, that's why I quit 🙂 | Oct 13 12:18 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | the ones I knew here could be a little pretentious | Oct 13 12:19 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and arrogant | Oct 13 12:19 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | but maybe bad luck | Oct 13 12:19 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | that's just my personal experience | Oct 13 12:19 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | british are better at faking manners | Oct 13 12:19 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and restraint | Oct 13 12:20 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | maybe that's why british empire was so much more "successful" | Oct 13 12:20 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and vast | Oct 13 12:20 |
| psydruid | the french outright insulted me at times | Oct 13 12:20 |
| psydruid | and I did it back to them | Oct 13 12:20 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | to occupy people and oppress them for long you need to at least fake respect for them | Oct 13 12:20 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | "Microsoft loves Linux" | Oct 13 12:21 |
| psydruid | never heard anything about that from my manager | Oct 13 12:21 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | "Queen loves India" | Oct 13 12:21 |
| psydruid | but I couldn't care less | Oct 13 12:21 |
| psydruid | french-speaking people from other countries did have decency | Oct 13 12:21 |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #TheNation ☞ Women Yell Things to Me. But They’re All Compliments. https://www.thenation.com/article/society/older-women-cable-news/ | Oct 13 12:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenation.com | Women Yell Things to Me. But They’re All Compliments. | The Nation | Oct 13 12:21 | |
| psydruid | like luxemburg, switzerland, canada and north african countries | Oct 13 12:21 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | they're not 'pure' French | Oct 13 12:22 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | belgium also | Oct 13 12:22 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | zoobab is a francophone | Oct 13 12:22 |
| psydruid | so it must be something in French society itself | Oct 13 12:22 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | you can hear it in his accent | Oct 13 12:22 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | very nice guy | Oct 13 12:22 |
| psydruid | oh sure | Oct 13 12:22 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I never know people from lux (personally) | Oct 13 12:22 |
| psydruid | I only ever had problems at the Charleroi train station | Oct 13 12:22 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | my sister worked there for a bit | Oct 13 12:22 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | many 'frenchies' destroyed the EPO | Oct 13 12:23 |
| psydruid | where the person who sold tickets insulted me in French, thinking I didn't understand him | Oct 13 12:23 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | not nice to put it like that | Oct 13 12:23 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | sounds racist and rude | Oct 13 12:23 |
| psydruid | but I did and insulted him back | Oct 13 12:23 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | but it is true | Oct 13 12:23 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | even french politicians said it | Oct 13 12:23 |
| psydruid | that's also what I do with Microsoft shills and they hate it | Oct 13 12:23 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | that EPO was becoming an embarrassment to france | Oct 13 12:23 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | Compinos is Frfench | Oct 13 12:23 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | he pretends not to be | Oct 13 12:24 |
| schestowitz | he is just another drunken sociopath http://techrights.org/2021/07/13/presidential-skill-gap/ | Oct 13 12:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Video: Mind the Mental Gap | Techrights | Oct 13 12:24 | |
| schestowitz | maybe he got his genes from his mom | Oct 13 12:24 |
| schestowitz | not from his portuguese dad | Oct 13 12:24 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | his dad is dead | Oct 13 12:25 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | but he SEEMED like a nice person | Oct 13 12:25 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | modest and noble | Oct 13 12:25 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I bet his wife wore the pants in the home | Oct 13 12:25 |
| schestowitz | Campinos and his mom: http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/funeral-antonio-campinos.jpg | Oct 13 12:26 |
| psydruid | I think the French still believe in their exceptionalism | Oct 13 12:26 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I'm not sure | Oct 13 12:28 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | tbh I don't understand French culture | Oct 13 12:28 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | what I've learned from EPO is not positive | Oct 13 12:28 |
| psydruid | neither do I | Oct 13 12:28 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | when I was young I was told they're antipathetic | Oct 13 12:28 |
| psydruid | it doesn't seem to have any defining feature | Oct 13 12:28 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and it's not racist to say if it's based on something factual | Oct 13 12:29 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | in fact, french is not a race | Oct 13 12:29 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | there are many types of ethicities there | Oct 13 12:29 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | religions also, but mostly 2 | Oct 13 12:29 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | language unifying factor | Oct 13 12:30 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | they're ethnically\ similar to us | Oct 13 12:30 |
| psydruid | in a forced way | Oct 13 12:30 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | religion is not a race | Oct 13 12:30 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | same for language | Oct 13 12:30 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | the funniest thing is when judaism is referred to as a race | Oct 13 12:31 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | or even Israel | Oct 13 12:31 |
| psydruid | everything that isn't "royal french" is considered backward | Oct 13 12:31 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | where there's like dozens of very different ethnicities | Oct 13 12:31 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | including palestinian arabs | Oct 13 12:31 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | psydruid: well, royal English can be German | Oct 13 12:31 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | or Greek | Oct 13 12:31 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | in the case of our deceased 'king' | Oct 13 12:32 |
| psydruid | even though French is like the furthest from all other Romance languages | Oct 13 12:32 |
| psydruid | it barely sounds like one | Oct 13 12:32 |
| techrights-news | The EPO‘s French dictator, Benoît ‘Vichy’ #Battistelli , might be relieved to hear that his enabler in the adjacent #Switzerland also enlisted armed bullies to keep the population down (the father of #AntónioCampinos might know a thing or two about those; it’s why he fled to #France ) http://techrights.org/2021/10/13/swiss-armed-bullies/ | Oct 13 12:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] [Teaser] Swiss Alexandre Benallas | Techrights | Oct 13 12:32 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #Techdirt #VPN ☞ Most People Probably Don't Need A VPN, Experts Now Advise https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211004/07084447693/most-people-probably-dont-need-vpn-experts-now-advise.shtml | Oct 13 12:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Most People Probably Don't Need A VPN, Experts Now Advise | Techdirt | Oct 13 12:33 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #CommonDreams #covid19 #patents #monopolies #greed ☞ 'Therapeutics Nationalism'? Poor at Risk of Being Left Behind as Rich Buy Up New Covid Drug https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/10/12/therapeutics-nationalism-poor-risk-being-left-behind-rich-buy-new-covid-drug | Oct 13 12:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | 'Therapeutics Nationalism'? Poor at Risk of Being Left Behind as Rich Buy Up New Covid Drug | Oct 13 12:35 | |
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| techrights-news | Kubuntu Focus M2 Linux laptop gets a spec bump (and a smaller, cheaper sibling: the Kubuntu Focus XE) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156690#comment-31350 | Oct 13 12:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Powerful Linux laptop RTX 3080 Kubuntu Focus Gen 3 M2 workstation | Tux Machines | Oct 13 12:37 | |
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| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #Techdirt #Twitch ☞ Twitch, Others, Ban #Amouranth Yet Again, Once Again With Zero Transparency https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211012/11293847738/twitch-others-ban-amouranth-yet-again-once-again-with-zero-transparency.shtml | Oct 13 12:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Twitch, Others, Ban Amouranth Yet Again, Once Again With Zero Transparency | Techdirt | Oct 13 12:44 | |
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| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #Techdirt #police ☞ #Alabama Supreme Court Rules Law Enforcement Can Withhold Almost All Records Indefinitely https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210926/12064047634/alabama-supreme-court-rules-law-enforcement-can-withhold-almost-all-records-indefinitely.shtml took SPD 9 months to hand over #billgates record (arrest at home) http://techrights.org/2019/12/21/police-report-bill-gates/ | Oct 13 12:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Alabama Supreme Court Rules Law Enforcement Can Withhold Almost All Records Indefinitely | Techdirt | Oct 13 12:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Mansion of Pedophilia – Part II: Dr. Stallman Defamed in the Media One Day After Request Made for King County Sheriff’s Office to Divulge Information About Pedophilia in Home of Bill Gates | Techrights | Oct 13 12:46 | |
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| techrights-news | #google will 'protect' us from #microsoft to the same degree or extent one tax-evading oligarch will 'protect' us from other tax-evading oligarchs. They have shared interests, overlapping agenda, similar funding sources. | Oct 13 12:49 |
| techrights-news | Don't say "Big tech" (it's #microsoft that made us that term), say #pentagon tech. This is who, at the end of the day, they all work for and sometimes received subsidies from (they don't call it subsidies as that would enrage taxpayers whom they harm anyway) http://techrights.org/2021/06/29/microsoft-behind-big-tech-narrative/ | Oct 13 12:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft is a Lot Worse Than Google, Amazon, Facebook, and Apple | Techrights | Oct 13 12:50 | |
| techrights-news | Any media outlet that still publishes "Bill says" pieces deserves the same condemnation as publishers with "Jimmy Savile likes" or "Jeffrey Esptein (the 'genius') thinks" or "Bill Cosby reads" or "R Kelly prepares new album" puff pieces http://techrights.org/2021/05/10/melinda-sickened-by-bill/ | Oct 13 12:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | According to the Wall Street Journal, Bill Gates’s Relationship with Jeffrey Epstein Caused the Bill-Melinda Divorce (While the Media Deflected to Dr. Stallman, Using a Phony ‘Scandal’) | Techrights | Oct 13 12:52 | |
| techrights-news | Of course #billBC will keep shilling for #billgates without even mentioning his name, e.g. deflection ('prince' Andrew) and shilling his investments: #monsanto and various vaccine #patent pools, to name a couple among many http://techrights.org/wiki/Gates_Foundation_Critique | Oct 13 12:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Gates Foundation Critique - Techrights | Oct 13 12:53 | |
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| schestowitz-TR2 | gm | Oct 13 12:57 |
| DaemonFC | Morning. | Oct 13 12:57 |
| DaemonFC | So I figured out MTU persistency. | Oct 13 12:57 |
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| DaemonFC | You can just put a shell script in to make it run the ip command and set MTU on the adapters by name when NetworkManager brings the interface up. | Oct 13 12:58 |
| DaemonFC | It's Linux, so thanks to Red Hat you might as well be looking up documentation for Windows 95 if the article is more than a year old. | Oct 13 12:58 |
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| schestowitz-TR2 | NetworkManager is gnome-ish | Oct 13 12:59 |
| DaemonFC | They shuffle things around, you have no idea how it works this year. What you were doing before is wrong now due to reasons. | Oct 13 12:59 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and very red hat-dominated | Oct 13 12:59 |
| DaemonFC | KDE uses it too. | Oct 13 12:59 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | yes | Oct 13 12:59 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I know | Oct 13 12:59 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | but it was not made for kde | Oct 13 13:00 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | in fact, ibm abandoned kde | Oct 13 13:00 |
| DaemonFC | Nope, it's GNOME's world and they just live in it now. | Oct 13 13:00 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | shortly after saying it would buy Red Hat | Oct 13 13:00 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | kde is very german and european | Oct 13 13:00 |
| *activelow tries falkon browser next | Oct 13 13:00 | |
| schestowitz-TR2 | gnome is a bit latin | Oct 13 13:00 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and very ibm-controlled | Oct 13 13:00 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR2, Well, I had to figure out this MTU thing because NordVPN isn't as smart as it is on Windows in some ways. | Oct 13 13:00 |
| DaemonFC | In Windows, it sets the MTU for the adapter to be the same as for the NordLynx interface to make sure the packets aren't immediately getting fragmented before they even leave your computer. | Oct 13 13:01 |
| DaemonFC | While MTU 1500 is usually right for most networks like cable, it can be disastrous for LTE/5G networks. | Oct 13 13:02 |
| DaemonFC | They don't like it. 1420 is usually right, at least with T-Mobile, although I am told it depends on the region. | Oct 13 13:02 |
| activelow | with wireguard setup here, 1420 is correctly configured for wg0 interface without any additional tweak | Oct 13 13:03 |
| activelow | on linux | Oct 13 13:03 |
| techrights-news | #ProprietarySoftware Leftovers • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156721 #TuxMachines | Oct 13 13:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proprietary Software Leftovers | Tux Machines | Oct 13 13:04 | |
| techrights-news | #Hardware Leftovers • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156722 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 13 13:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Hardware Leftovers | Tux Machines | Oct 13 13:04 | |
| DaemonFC | The MTU for the adapter itself has to be set too, otherwise the underlying connection won't be stable. | Oct 13 13:05 |
| techrights-news | Today’s 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156723 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 13 13:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Oct 13 13:05 | |
| DaemonFC | I've tested this and not setting matching values causes issues. | Oct 13 13:05 |
| activelow | depends, pmtu discovery, among other things (up to tcp and mss) | Oct 13 13:06 |
| DaemonFC | Path MTU discovery is off by default on Debian. | Oct 13 13:06 |
| activelow | iirc PMTU depends on ICMP, and if any hop doesn't respond then pmtu fails | Oct 13 13:06 |
| DaemonFC | From the documentation I've read, it appears that it can cause problems itself sometimes. | Oct 13 13:07 |
| DaemonFC | Windows has it on by default. | Oct 13 13:07 |
| DaemonFC | Software can be "too smart for its own good". | Oct 13 13:07 |
| activelow | some routers/firewalls my disable ip-fragmentation, which if too pmtu isn't possible cuts connectivity | Oct 13 13:07 |
| DaemonFC | In Windows 98, I was tweaking the MTU, because Microsoft was setting it to values appropriate for a WAN when you were using dial up. | Oct 13 13:08 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 13 13:08 |
| DaemonFC | Fragged packets were a particular pain in the ass on dial up because it was already very slow. | Oct 13 13:09 |
| DaemonFC | Anything you could possibly do to speed it up make a night and day difference. | Oct 13 13:09 |
| techrights-news | Links 13/10/2021: #Firefox Keylogger on (By Default), GNOME Platform Design Discussed • 𝕋𝕖𝕔𝕙𝕣𝕚𝕘𝕙𝕥𝕤 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/10/13/firefox-keylogger/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/13/firefox-keylogger/ | Oct 13 13:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 13/10/2021: Firefox Keylogger on (By Default), GNOME Platform Design Discussed | Techrights | Oct 13 13:11 | |
| techrights-news | Excuse me, your memory is leaking. #GNOME Software running in the background, taking hundreds of MB of RAM. https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/10/13/excuse-me-your-memory-is-leaking-gnome-software-running-in-the-background-taking-hundreds-of-mb-of-ram/ #gnu #linux | Oct 13 13:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Excuse me, your memory is leaking. GNOME Software running in the background, taking hundreds of MB of RAM. – BaronHK's Rants | Oct 13 13:12 | |
| techrights-news | " #PostgreSQL Partition Manager (pg_partman) v4.6.0 has been released." https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/pg_partman-460-released-2326/ #deletegithub #microsoft #monopoly #ProprietarySoftware http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Delete_Github | Oct 13 13:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.postgresql.org | PostgreSQL: pg_partman 4.6.0 released | Oct 13 13:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Delete Github - Techrights | Oct 13 13:14 | |
| techrights-news | #PGConf NYC 2021 Sessions Announced, Last Week for Early Bird! https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/pgconf-nyc-2021-sessions-announced-last-week-for-early-bird-2327/ #psql #postgres #postgresql | Oct 13 13:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.postgresql.org | PostgreSQL: PGConf NYC 2021 Sessions Announced, Last Week for Early Bird! | Oct 13 13:15 | |
| techrights-news | "I am extremely excited to announce the first stable release of #Psycopg 3!" https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/psycopg-30-released-2328/ #freesw #psql #postgres #postgresql | Oct 13 13:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.postgresql.org | PostgreSQL: Psycopg 3.0 released | Oct 13 13:16 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR2, Firefox Suggest is simply the worst idea I've ever seen come out of Mozilla. In their response to Bleeping Computer, they don't even categorically deny collecting personally identifiable information or the possibility of forwarding it to the advertising company. In fact, they admit they store it on Mozilla's servers for 24 hours and run an automatic process (code on Microsoft GitHub) to attempt to strip it before forwarding it | Oct 13 13:16 |
| DaemonFC | to the advertiser. Regardless of whether this can be done reliably, 100% of the time, this thing is bad stuff. | Oct 13 13:16 |
| DaemonFC | And it won't be reliable 100 percent of the time, so at least sometimes there will be personally identifiable information forwarded to the advertiser. | Oct 13 13:17 |
| techrights-news | How about #deleteMicrosoft and use REAL #email and a proper mail client, not #microsoft infamous "mail destroyer" (it kills whole boxes, not just legit messages misflagged)? https://www.addictivetips.com/windows-tips/outlook-sending-emails-to-junk-folder/ | Oct 13 13:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.addictivetips.com | How to fix Outlook keeps sending emails to Junk or Spam Folder | Oct 13 13:17 | |
| schestowitz-TR2 | DaemonFC: mozilla is run by liar | Oct 13 13:18 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | always assume the worst | Oct 13 13:18 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and the more nefarious | Oct 13 13:18 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | do not assume goodwill anymore | Oct 13 13:18 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | it's run by foaming-at-the-mouth surveillance capitalists | Oct 13 13:18 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | look at their board | Oct 13 13:18 |
| DaemonFC | Firefox Pocket "Sponsored Stories" was the camel's nose in the tent. They claimed the thing would run client-side and then pull down these ads straight from Mozilla without anyone getting personally identifiable info from you. | Oct 13 13:18 |
| DaemonFC | Now this. | Oct 13 13:18 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | monopolists and misogynists | Oct 13 13:18 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▄▅▅▃▅▆▅▆▅▄▄▅▅▅▅▃▅▅▆▅▇▄▅▃▄▃▅▅▅▅▆▄▃▁ avg(k/sec) 23.31 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▂▂▄▄▁▂▂▁▁▂▄█▃▁▂▃▁▁▂▃▁▂▁▂▄▂▂▅▅▁▄▄▅▄▅▄▂▆▁ avg(k/sec) 22.90▕ swarm size (avg): 260.82 ⟲ | Oct 13 13:18 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | DaemonFC: you should cover this | Oct 13 13:19 |
| DaemonFC | Even Vivaldi isn't this bad, or at least doesn't have to be. | Oct 13 13:19 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I can give pointers | Oct 13 13:19 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I study every single post in Planet Mozilla | Oct 13 13:19 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | bonus: they deleted many people from Planet Mozilla | Oct 13 13:19 |
| DaemonFC | It's easier to make Vivaldi shut up and turn off DRM and Bing, and after that it's just blowing away some default bookmarks. | Oct 13 13:19 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | often for political reasons alone | Oct 13 13:20 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | spying? OK. | Oct 13 13:20 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | Political views? YOU FASCIST! | Oct 13 13:20 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | don't shill vivalid | Oct 13 13:20 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | we might come to regret it | Oct 13 13:20 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | maybe Microsoft will buy it | Oct 13 13:20 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | because Edge is a joke | Oct 13 13:20 |
| DaemonFC | Yes, Firefox is collapsing. | Oct 13 13:20 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | iirc, at one point there were rumours about Microsoft buying Opera | Oct 13 13:20 |
| DaemonFC | There aren't too many more Firefox users at this point than Vivaldi. | Oct 13 13:21 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | but maybe I remember it wrong, it was a long long time ago | Oct 13 13:21 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | let's send firefox users to freesw browsers | Oct 13 13:21 |
| DaemonFC | Vivaldi is still a niche browser that's favored by power users. | Oct 13 13:21 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | not vivaldis and stuf | Oct 13 13:21 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | it's another burning platform | Oct 13 13:21 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | vivaldi will sell | Oct 13 13:21 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | opera sold to china | Oct 13 13:21 |
| DaemonFC | UnGoogled Chromium might be worth a look. | Oct 13 13:21 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | vivaldi is jon having another go at it | Oct 13 13:21 |
| DaemonFC | No sync, but you can backup your passwords to CSV, which is supported by other browsers. | Oct 13 13:22 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | looking to sell when he herds enough "userbase" | Oct 13 13:22 |
| DaemonFC | So you could encrypt them and store the archive on storage you own. | Oct 13 13:22 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | no, google will pull the rug | Oct 13 13:22 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | they already do this in numerous ways | Oct 13 13:22 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | like facebook does to thinks that 'improve' it | Oct 13 13:22 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | maybe Microsoft can also sue with patents or threaten to re VS Code | Oct 13 13:22 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | because someone decided to strip the blobs and "Telemetry" < Mozilla loves this term | Oct 13 13:23 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | Mozilla can suck my big data | Oct 13 13:23 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR2, The optometrist I go to still uses Opera 12. | Oct 13 13:23 |
| XRevan86 | "does discord actually make any money?" <- "Discord Nitro" | Oct 13 13:24 |
| DaemonFC | It's a dead platform obviously. Other than a few CVE fixes and new TLS certificates for people stuck on Windows XP, it hasn't been updated since the Chinese bought it. | Oct 13 13:24 |
| techrights-news | LHS Episode #434: Linux Install Media Deep Dive https://lhspodcast.info/2021/10/lhs-episode-434-linux-install-media-deep-dive-2/ | Oct 13 13:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lhspodcast.info | LHS Episode #434: Linux Install Media Deep Dive | Linux in the Ham Shack | Oct 13 13:24 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: https://baronhk.wordpress.com/contact/ | Oct 13 13:24 |
| schestowitz | put someting there | Oct 13 13:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Contact – BaronHK's Rants | Oct 13 13:24 | |
| schestowitz | maybe even our irc address or channel | Oct 13 13:25 |
| schestowitz | so you can be reached in real time | Oct 13 13:25 |
| schestowitz | you leave no way to send you feedback | Oct 13 13:25 |
| schestowitz | some people send me messages about your articles | Oct 13 13:25 |
| schestowitz | I then relay them to IRC | Oct 13 13:25 |
| techrights-news | LOL. Bobby Borisov became a "useful idiot" of #microsoft jusy now. Helping them spam or #googlebomb "LINUX" with their #WSL2 crap, which is an ATTACK on #gnu #linux ... don't be their "useful idiots", people. Skip to the actual news. http://techrights.org/2021/10/05/microsoft-puff-pieces/ | Oct 13 13:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Edge on “Linux” Puff Pieces and WSL2 Fake “Linux” | Techrights | Oct 13 13:27 | |
| techrights-news | #UnGoogled #Chromium update for #Slackware 14.2 and -current | Alien Pastures ⚓ https://alien.slackbook.org/blog/un-googled-chromium-update-for-slackware-14-2-and-current/ #gnu #linux | Oct 13 13:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-alien.slackbook.org | Un-Googled Chromium update for Slackware 14.2 and -current | Alien Pastures | Oct 13 13:28 | |
| techrights-news | mintCast 371.5 - Minus One - #mintCast ⚓ https://mintcast.org/2021/10/13/371-5-minus-one/ #gnu #linux | Oct 13 13:29 |
| -altlink_22b/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: mintcast.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://mintcast.org/2021/10/13/371-5-minus-one/ | Oct 13 13:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mintcast.org | 371.5 – Minus One – mintCast | Oct 13 13:29 | |
| techrights-news | #wsl2 is a dying product. The press has no reason to mention it other than to help #vista11 #marketing spam campaign. http://techrights.org/2020/05/06/wsl2-usage-numbers/ other products that 'silently' died: http://techrights.org/wiki/Microsoft_-_Dead_Divisions_or_Products | Oct 13 13:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Only About 150,000 People Worldwide Use WSL2 (Windows Subsystem for Linux) | Techrights | Oct 13 13:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft - Dead Divisions or Products - Techrights | Oct 13 13:30 | |
| techrights-news | Even the #wsl2 'devs' (1) have called it quits (the leadership (2)). 1) http://techrights.org/2021/10/05/microsoft-puff-pieces/ 2) http://techrights.org/2021/06/01/the-death-of-wsl-and-wsl2/ #microsoft #wsl | Oct 13 13:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Death of WSL and WSL2 | Techrights | Oct 13 13:32 | |
| techrights-news | Old #techrights articles re #wsl http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/WSL WSL is NOT EVEN LINUX!! No Linux in it. It has been around for 4 YEARS! The WSL with Linux in it (2)? No users almost... http://techrights.org/2020/05/06/wsl2-usage-numbers/ | Oct 13 13:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | WSL - Techrights | Oct 13 13:33 | |
| techrights-news | All those #microsoft spam-loving 'journalists' who write about #wsl2 have no excuse for NOT covering #gnu #linux distros that have VASTLY MORE USERS than #wsl and "2" and "g" combined. But it's #corruptMedia ... it prioritises what pays. | Oct 13 13:34 |
| techrights-news | #zdnet 'journaliism' (a clueless git, a dime a dozen): "Microsoft October 2021 Patch Tuesday: 71 vulnerabilities, four zero-days squashed". No mention of #nsa #backdoors because that's 'old news' and Microsoft pays ZDNet for fluff. http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSA http://techrights.org/wiki/ZDNet | Oct 13 13:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft and the NSA - Techrights | Oct 13 13:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | ZDNet - Techrights | Oct 13 13:38 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I'm writing another one about GNOME Software. | Oct 13 13:39 |
| DaemonFC | How the reviews are utterly useless. | Oct 13 13:39 |
| techrights-news | Talking about #backdoors is "extreme" because you're not 'supposed' to think they exist. Oh, all right then... even #billBC covered this https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34444233 | Oct 13 13:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | Edward Snowden interview: 'Smartphones can be taken over' - BBC News | Oct 13 13:39 | |
| DaemonFC | "Then there’s the people who are just outright stupid and give something a bad review just because they don’t know why it exists and does what it does, like the guy who complained that ungoogled-chromium doesn’t sync to Google’s servers." | Oct 13 13:40 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, ^ | Oct 13 13:40 |
| techrights-news | 25 ways you can contribute to #KDE • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156724 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 13 13:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 25 ways you can contribute to KDE | Tux Machines | Oct 13 13:40 | |
| schestowitz-TR2 | DaemonFC: they are | Oct 13 13:40 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | "useless" | Oct 13 13:40 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | like in Amazon | Oct 13 13:41 |
| psydruid | they are aimed at "useful Idiots" | Oct 13 13:41 |
| psydruid | who can then spread the word of GNOME | Oct 13 13:41 |
| psydruid | Abiword of GNOME? | Oct 13 13:42 |
| psydruid | I remember when that was a really lightweight text processor | Oct 13 13:42 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | Abiword | Oct 13 13:43 |
| psydruid | and then last year when I tried it it seemed to load more slowly than Libeoffice | Oct 13 13:43 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I used it almost 20 years ago | Oct 13 13:43 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | but I was into latex | Oct 13 13:43 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and lyx | Oct 13 13:43 |
| psydruid | LibreOffice* | Oct 13 13:43 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | so Abiword did not interest me much | Oct 13 13:43 |
| psydruid | so was I, I only spun it up a few times | Oct 13 13:43 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | unless I was sent some "bad" file (DOC) | Oct 13 13:43 |
| psydruid | and never used it for anything | Oct 13 13:43 |
| DaemonFC | "I got ungoogled Chromium and it doesn't send my data to Google!!!!" | Oct 13 13:47 |
| DaemonFC | "I demand that it send my data to Google!" | Oct 13 13:47 |
| DaemonFC | Uh, okay, run Chrome. It'll send it all to Google. | Oct 13 13:47 |
| activelow | loving it: dev-qt/qtgui-5.15.2-r1 ./configure -no-opengl -no-egl ... OK. and then during compilation phase: "ERROR: The OpenGL functionality tests failed!" | Oct 13 13:48 |
| techrights-news | #Singapore : Withdraw “foreign interference” #law or risk violating civic freedoms https://www.accessnow.org/singapore-foreign-interference-law/ | Oct 13 13:48 |
| -altlink_22b/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: accessnow.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.accessnow.org/singapore-foreign-interference-law/ | Oct 13 13:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.accessnow.org | Singapore: Withdraw “foreign interference” law or risk violating civic freedoms - Access Now | Oct 13 13:48 | |
| activelow | falkon browser depends on qtgui... maybe can be repaired | Oct 13 13:48 |
| activelow | the fact that qtgui configure/compile is broken and no other distro had noticed some might want to disable opengl/egl ... | Oct 13 13:49 |
| techrights-news | Access Now to Telenor’s Board: Stop the sale in Myanmar - Access Now ⚓ https://www.accessnow.org/telenor-board-stop-the-sale-myanmar/ ䷉ #accessnow | Oct 13 13:49 |
| -altlink_22b/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: accessnow.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.accessnow.org/telenor-board-stop-the-sale-myanmar/ | Oct 13 13:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.accessnow.org | Access Now to Telenor’s Board: Stop the sale in Myanmar - Access Now | Oct 13 13:49 | |
| activelow | add to this, there is no benefit for a 2d widget toolkit to depend on opengl and propietary hardware | Oct 13 13:49 |
| activelow | sure, worse problems exist, nonetheless | Oct 13 13:50 |
| techrights-news | #microsoft employees defaming #techrights again. Links omitted. | Oct 13 13:52 |
| techrights-news | When I say employees I mean managers. Poor #microsoft ... we've struck a nerve. | Oct 13 13:52 |
| techrights-news | #Singapore ’s anti-foreign interference law will ‘substantially narrow’ civic space, rights groups say https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/politics/article/3152161/singapores-anti-foreign-interference-law-will-substantially | Oct 13 13:55 |
| -altlink_22b/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: scmp.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/politics/article/3152161/singapores-anti-foreign-interference-law-will-substantially | Oct 13 13:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.scmp.com | Singapore’s anti-foreign interference law will ‘substantially narrow’ civic space, rights groups say | South China Morning Post | Oct 13 13:56 | |
| techrights-news | #AccessNow report holds up poster child #Aadhaar as ‘Big ID’ bugbear | Biometric Update ⚓ https://www.biometricupdate.com/202110/access-now-report-holds-up-poster-child-aadhaar-as-big-id-bugbear ䷉ #biometricupdate https://www.livemint.com/Politics/MEm1Qz7e9nlYiFT3KbSNeK/CIA-may-have-access-to-Aadhaar-data-claims-WikiLeaks-report.html | Oct 13 13:57 |
| -altlink_22b/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: biometricupdate.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.biometricupdate.com/202110/access-now-report-holds-up-poster-child-aadhaar-as-big-id-bugbear | Oct 13 13:57 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.biometricupdate.com | Access Now report holds up poster child Aadhaar as ‘Big ID’ bugbear | Biometric Update | Oct 13 13:57 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.livemint.com | CIA may have access to Aadhaar data, claims WikiLeaks report, govt denies | Oct 13 13:57 | |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: lol | Oct 13 13:57 |
| techrights-news | Is #Australia becoming a #surveillance state? | IT PRO ⚓ https://www.itpro.co.uk/security/privacy/361191/is-australia-becoming-a-surveillance-state do bears poop in the woods? | Oct 13 13:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itpro.co.uk | Is Australia becoming a surveillance state? | IT PRO | Oct 13 13:57 | |
| activelow | very strange, qtgui configure script accepts no-opengl and no-egl, and then some configure check fails; repaired this now. | Oct 13 13:59 |
| activelow | suspect the compilation phase will break or any dependency linking against qtgui later. | Oct 13 13:59 |
| activelow | i'll know soon | Oct 13 14:00 |
| activelow | compiling ... | Oct 13 14:00 |
| techrights-news | Life Changing Virtualization | #LINUXUnplugged 427 https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/146427/life-changing-virtualization-linux-unplugged-427/ #gnu #linux | Oct 13 14:03 |
| -altlink_22b/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: jupiterbroadcasting.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/146427/life-changing-virtualization-linux-unplugged-427/ | Oct 13 14:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jupiterbroadcasting.com | Life Changing Virtualization | LINUX Unplugged 427 | Jupiter Broadcasting | Oct 13 14:03 | |
| psydruid | activelow, I am getting more convinced that qt is bloat and should die and be replaced | Oct 13 14:04 |
| MinceR | it is | Oct 13 14:04 |
| MinceR | it was already bloated when they put half a window manager in it to support wayland | Oct 13 14:05 |
| MinceR | it got worse when they put 2 whole web browsers in it | Oct 13 14:05 |
| psydruid | and then they never took them out again, I suppose | Oct 13 14:07 |
| MinceR | maybe they took out the older of the 2 browsers | Oct 13 14:07 |
| MinceR | already | Oct 13 14:07 |
| samiamsam | yo | Oct 13 14:08 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | 0/ | Oct 13 14:08 |
| samiamsam | :) | Oct 13 14:09 |
| techrights-news | Audiocasts/Shows: LINUX Unplugged, mintCast, Linux in the Ham Shack • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156725 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 13 14:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Audiocasts/Shows: LINUX Unplugged, mintCast, Linux in the Ham Shack | Tux Machines | Oct 13 14:09 | |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156726 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 13 14:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Oct 13 14:09 | |
| techrights-news | "Developed Brawsome emailed to note that their space sci-fi adventure Warp Frontier will be releasing for #Linux (and macOS) in November following the Windows release in late September." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/10/space-sci-fi-point-and-click-adventure-warp-frontier-releases-for-linux-in-november | Oct 13 14:10 |
| -altlink_22b/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/10/space-sci-fi-point-and-click-adventure-warp-frontier-releases-for-linux-in-november | Oct 13 14:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Space sci-fi point and click adventure Warp Frontier releases for Linux in November | GamingOnLinux | Oct 13 14:10 | |
| techrights-news | "After the initial release back in July, No Longer Home from Humble Grove and Fellow Traveller has launched the GNU/Linux version. Funded on Kickstarter back in 2018, the original plan was to have #GNU #Linux support so it's good to see it land." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/10/magical-realist-point-and-click-adventure-no-longer-home-now-on-linux | Oct 13 14:11 |
| -altlink_22b/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/10/magical-realist-point-and-click-adventure-no-longer-home-now-on-linux | Oct 13 14:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Magical realist point and click adventure No Longer Home now on Linux | GamingOnLinux | Oct 13 14:11 | |
| techrights-news | Don’t penalise cybersecurity researchers! ⚓ https://internetfreedom.in/dont-penalise-cybersecurity-researchers/ ䷉ #internetfreedom #india #in | Oct 13 14:14 |
| -altlink_22b/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: internetfreedom.in | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://internetfreedom.in/dont-penalise-cybersecurity-researchers/ | Oct 13 14:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-internetfreedom.in | Don’t penalise cybersecurity researchers! | Oct 13 14:14 | |
| techrights-news | No mention of #microsoft #windows at all? https://www.pentestpartners.com/security-blog/germ-term-but-all-year-how-criminals-are-hacking-schools/ see http://techrights.org/2020/06/09/windows-disaster-zones/ | Oct 13 14:14 |
| -altlink_22b/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: pentestpartners.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.pentestpartners.com/security-blog/germ-term-but-all-year-how-criminals-are-hacking-schools/ | Oct 13 14:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pentestpartners.com | Germ-term, but all year. How criminals are hacking schools | Pen Test Partners | Oct 13 14:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Index of the Series About Windows Inside Hospitals (Causing Hospitals to Become Disaster Zones) | Techrights | Oct 13 14:14 | |
| activelow | yep... qtgui is completely broken without opengl/egl -> blacklisted | Oct 13 14:15 |
| techrights-news | "Back in 2007, I called this the “war on the unexpected.” It’s why “see something, say something” doesn’t work. If you put amateurs in the front lines of security, don’t be surprised when you get amateur security. I have lots of examples." https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2021/10/airline-passenger-mistakes-vintage-camera-for-a-bomb.html | Oct 13 14:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Airline Passenger Mistakes Vintage Camera for a Bomb - Schneier on Security | Oct 13 14:15 | |
| techrights-news | Last month Simon Sharwood carried on with his trolling of #torvalds and his Linux FUD. Now he's shilling #microsoft ATTACK on #gnu #linux (named "WSL") http://techrights.org/2021/09/13/simon-says/ | Oct 13 14:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Register Cannot Stop Trolling Linus Torvalds (It Recently Corrected Falsehoods in the Headlines, But No Lessons Have Been Learned) | Techrights | Oct 13 14:19 | |
| DaemonFC | https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/10/13/microsoft-and-cnet-confuse-users-with-fake-this-pc-cant-run-windows-11-errors-suggest-buying-a-completely-new-computer/ | Oct 13 14:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Microsoft and CNET confuse users with fake “This PC can’t run Windows 11” errors. Suggest buying a completely new computer. – BaronHK's Rants | Oct 13 14:26 | |
| schestowitz-TR2 | ha | Oct 13 14:26 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | they still trot out that crap | Oct 13 14:26 |
| activelow | putting the puzzle together: gtk (and qt) both depend on X11, gtk2/directfb is broken, gtk3/directfb is entirely gone | Oct 13 14:26 |
| activelow | both qt and gtk3 depend on opengl, while gtk3 does cleanly compile without opengl at least, qtgui doesn't at all | Oct 13 14:27 |
| psydruid | what is the gtk2 codebase like? | Oct 13 14:28 |
| psydruid | is there anything of value in it? | Oct 13 14:28 |
| activelow | although X11 does not pull in proprietary crap (with opengl), gtk3(fixed) and qt(not fixed, not feasible) do pull in the crap | Oct 13 14:28 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR2, Added...."Fake Windows security is something that appeals to Pointy Haired Bosses and open source posers like Matthew Garrett. Don't let yourself be confused by the hype." | Oct 13 14:28 |
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| techrights-news | #Games: Warp Frontier, Space Crew: Legendary Edition, No Longer Home, Doom Fighters • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156727 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 13 14:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Warp Frontier, Space Crew: Legendary Edition, No Longer Home, Doom Fighters | Tux Machines | Oct 13 14:29 | |
| techrights-news | #Microsoft and CNET confuse users with fake “This PC can’t run Windows 11” errors. Suggest buying a completely new computer. • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156728 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 13 14:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Microsoft and CNET confuse users with fake “This PC can’t run Windows 11” errors. Suggest buying a completely new computer. | Tux Machines | Oct 13 14:29 | |
| activelow | of cause, it is not a problem to compile and merge all this, it has become impossible if proprietary crap is forbidden | Oct 13 14:29 |
| DaemonFC | "Windows itself is basically Pointy Haired Boss OS, and entire careers are minted from all the trouble it causes to organizations which "standardize" on it." | Oct 13 14:30 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | DaemonFC: you give too much publicity/credit to a loser | Oct 13 14:30 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | people whose accomplishment is attacking society are better off forgotten | Oct 13 14:30 |
| activelow | psydruid: gtk2 is mostly abandoned nowadays, few weeks ago libreoffice dropped gtk2 support | Oct 13 14:30 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wiki/Miguel_de_Icaza | Oct 13 14:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Miguel de Icaza - Techrights | Oct 13 14:30 | |
| activelow | a major difference of gtk2 was: no opengl dependency by default, | Oct 13 14:30 |
| schestowitz | don't worry, they make enough money from the criminals | Oct 13 14:30 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wiki/Miguel_de_Icaza | Oct 13 14:31 |
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| psydruid | activelow, what about applications that still use it? are there any valuable ones keeping around? | Oct 13 14:31 |
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| schestowitz | <http://techrights.org/2021/03/17/epoleaks-report-march-2021-part-12/ | Oct 13 14:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO and Microsoft Collude to Break the Law — Part XII: Foreign Corrupt Practices, Bid Rigging and “Slush Funds” | Techrights | Oct 13 14:31 | |
| schestowitz | at the end people learn the facts | Oct 13 14:31 |
| schestowitz | like with EPO | Oct 13 14:31 |
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| schestowitz | and all the rogues are avoided like lepers | Oct 13 14:31 |
| schestowitz | then we move on with our lives | Oct 13 14:31 |
| schestowitz | Torvalds is back | Oct 13 14:31 |
| schestowitz | (limited capacity) | Oct 13 14:31 |
| schestowitz | RMS too | Oct 13 14:31 |
| psydruid | that's why MATE is still somewhat fast | Oct 13 14:31 |
| schestowitz | and we find ways around the neo-Maoists | Oct 13 14:31 |
| activelow | psydruid: gimp (which is gtk3 already), netsurf (supports both gtk2 and gtk3), maybe some GUI TeX frontend such as Gummi | Oct 13 14:32 |
| schestowitz | psydruid: it needs to delete github iirc | Oct 13 14:32 |
| psydruid | even though they have probably moved to gtk3 by now as well | Oct 13 14:32 |
| schestowitz | a lot of mind things are outsourced to Microsoft, though it predates the takeover | Oct 13 14:32 |
| activelow | Gnu/Linux GUI desktop was ruined | Oct 13 14:33 |
| psydruid | Miguel De Riqueza | Oct 13 14:33 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | now we have also a Guido de Icaza | Oct 13 14:33 |
| activelow | it is fully locked into proprietary opengl now, even if llvm/clan softpipe exists, it's crap | Oct 13 14:33 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | shilling proprietary software for money | Oct 13 14:33 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | a shame | Oct 13 14:33 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | he could retire with respect and disgnity | Oct 13 14:33 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | he's 64 iirc | Oct 13 14:33 |
| psydruid | activelow, thanks for your answers | Oct 13 14:34 |
| psydruid | the way I see it is that new libraries and new applications should be written | Oct 13 14:34 |
| psydruid | otherwise you are dependent on a drug dealer giving you "apps", if you are willing to sell your soul | Oct 13 14:35 |
| activelow | oh, i see, gimp sticked to gtk2 here >=x11-libs/gtk+-2.24.32:2 | Oct 13 14:35 |
| techrights-news | #qt blog shilling #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware today. Not good, not good at all. Shilling their own is one thing; shilling for Microsoft, with #surveillance added, is a terrible sign. | Oct 13 14:35 |
| activelow | that's ok, so gimp is safe for now | Oct 13 14:35 |
| activelow | libreoffice-5.x should be safe too | Oct 13 14:35 |
| psydruid | benevolent dictators who are also grifting as a career | Oct 13 14:36 |
| psydruid | the best of both worlds | Oct 13 14:36 |
| activelow | gummi tex editor, an older version in gentoo tree is gtk2, latest version is gtk3 | Oct 13 14:36 |
| psydruid | we lost track of things over time thinking that gtk and qt were the only toolkits when there should have been more to keep these honest | Oct 13 14:37 |
| techrights-news | #zdnet and its sister site #techrepublic keep telling us (even today; links omitted) MASTER, MASTERING etc. Even after #ibm and #microsoft paid them to say to readers that it's racist. Because, you see... it's OK for them to say it. But community? Community is racist. http://techrights.org/wiki/IBM#Racism | Oct 13 14:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM - Techrights | Oct 13 14:37 | |
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| psydruid | but I say they have been playing a number on a gullible free software community that didn't see the dangers until it was too late | Oct 13 14:38 |
| psydruid | or where the formerly free software community was co-opted and pulled into corporations so there wasn't any outside community left | Oct 13 14:38 |
| activelow | X11 itself recently locked into evdev, which i did block too, for now | Oct 13 14:38 |
| activelow | so, this is what remained: X11/gtk2 and some legacy gtk2 apps disappearing from the gentoo tree | Oct 13 14:39 |
| activelow | qt5 is gone already | Oct 13 14:39 |
| techrights-news | #gnu #linux distro from #italy , #openmamba 20211012, is out. I like how their site says "Free software" http://openmamba.org/ | Oct 13 14:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-openmamba.org | openmamba | Oct 13 14:40 | |
| psydruid | what also bothers me is how a lot of applications are locked into certain toolkits | Oct 13 14:40 |
| *activelow cannot believe it | Oct 13 14:40 | |
| psydruid | if the toolkit dies, the application dies with it | Oct 13 14:40 |
| activelow | they effectively killed free and opensource linux desktop if opengl/systemd/.. are blacklisted | Oct 13 14:41 |
| techrights-news | "ZDNet Academy" = misleading euphemism for #zdnet SPAM SECTION. They even misuse the term "Academy" to whiten their SPAM. #boycottzdnet ... it needs to be burned to the ground; #microsoft propaganda machine http://techrights.org/wiki/ZDNet | Oct 13 14:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | ZDNet - Techrights | Oct 13 14:43 | |
| activelow | i am willing to listen to any argument, if opengl vendor lock-in was either necessary or desireable | Oct 13 14:43 |
| activelow | in any case, it is fact. and my opinion is this: it is not desireable, and it certainly was not necessary to do it. | Oct 13 14:44 |
| techrights-news | #SparkyLinux 2021.10 • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156729 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 13 14:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Sparky 2021.10 | Tux Machines | Oct 13 14:44 | |
| psydruid | but what if you actually do need 3d graphics? | Oct 13 14:46 |
| techrights-news | "When the pandemic struck, most organizations had no choice but to accelerate their digital technology adoption" or in the case of #ibm (this site's owner) to ACCELERATE THE BRUTAL #layoffs https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2021/10/digital-transformation-3-myths-pandemic-busted | Oct 13 14:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | Digital transformation: 3 myths the pandemic busted | The Enterprisers Project | Oct 13 14:46 | |
| activelow | i do remember GNU was considering to implement some replacement for llvm/clang mesa-opengl | Oct 13 14:47 |
| activelow | the problem i see is this: the strong dependency, the hard lock-in | Oct 13 14:47 |
| techrights-news | "The point of such policies is to educate people on organizational rules and the habits of good security hygiene." https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2021/10/security-policy-how-to-create don't ask #ibm #redhat for advice on #security http://techrights.org/2021/01/30/fake-security/ | Oct 13 14:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | How to create an effective security policy: 6 tips | The Enterprisers Project | Oct 13 14:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Fake Security is Still a Real Problem, Even in the GNU/Linux (and BSD) Spheres | Techrights | Oct 13 14:48 | |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/784694.jpg | Oct 13 14:48 |
| -altlink_22b/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: hugelolcdn.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://hugelolcdn.com/i/784694.jpg | Oct 13 14:48 | |
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| psydruid | is there any graphics solution for 3d that doesn't rely on millions of lines of obfuscated source code and closed firmware? | Oct 13 14:48 |
| MinceR | maybe an unaccelerated one | Oct 13 14:48 |
| activelow | llvm/clang is BSD(?) licensed, ok. people want to use it, ok. it is bloated and slow and fat, a matter of taste, ok. what i do not accept is it being *enforced* as strong dependency to keep gnu/linux desktop. | Oct 13 14:49 |
| psydruid | apart from lima, panfrost and the likes that were developed after a long time of reverse engineering | Oct 13 14:49 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | MinceR: ha | Oct 13 14:49 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | no idea with this "boi" thing is | Oct 13 14:49 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I can guess | Oct 13 14:49 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 13 14:49 |
| activelow | psydruid: with panfrost/lima i only consider the framebuffer provided, opengl is meh. | Oct 13 14:49 |
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| psydruid | some people want to play games or use applications for modelling such as freecad or blender | Oct 13 14:50 |
| activelow | and it is 2d graphical desktop which insists on opengl now... what a nonsense | Oct 13 14:50 |
| techrights-news | Vulkan 1.2.196 Introduces H.265 Encode Extension - Phoronix ⚓ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Vulkan-1.2.196-H265-Encode ䷉ #Phoronix | Oct 13 14:51 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Vulkan 1.2.196 Introduces H.265 Encode Extension - Phoronix | Oct 13 14:51 | |
| gustaf | activelow: if opengl proprietary because you need a license to call it "opengl" ? | Oct 13 14:51 |
| activelow | even ancient i486 CPU could render 2D without any "acceleration" at all | Oct 13 14:51 |
| activelow | gustaf: the hardware | Oct 13 14:51 |
| gustaf | ah ok | Oct 13 14:51 |
| techrights-news | #Mesa 21.3 Fixes Issue Of Some Games Having Transparency Issues Under #Wayland - Phoronix ⚓ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Mesa-21.3-Fixes-Wayland-Trans ䷉ #Phoronix #Linux #Graphics | Oct 13 14:51 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mesa 21.3 Fixes Issue Of Some Games Having Transparency Issues Under Wayland - Phoronix | Oct 13 14:51 | |
| activelow | and remember, how long it took to reverse-engineer the binary shit for panfrost/lima? | Oct 13 14:51 |
| activelow | which shouldn't at least be required to do, for some 2d gnu/linux graphical desktop. | Oct 13 14:52 |
| psydruid | do you believe gnu/linux desktop developers sided with the hardware industry to conspire against users? | Oct 13 14:54 |
| techrights-news | DAMON Extended To Offer Physical Memory Address Space Monitoring - Phoronix ⚓ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=DAMON-Physical-Monitoring ䷉ #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux 🐧 | Oct 13 14:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-DAMON Extended To Offer Physical Memory Address Space Monitoring - Phoronix | Oct 13 14:54 | |
| activelow | psydruid: some did | Oct 13 14:54 |
| psydruid | forcing hardware upgrades where there was no need for it? | Oct 13 14:54 |
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| techrights-news | #Loongson Volleys Latest Patches For #LoongArch Linux Support - Phoronix ⚓ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=LoongArch-Linux-v5 ䷉ #cn #Linux #china | Oct 13 14:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Loongson Volleys Latest Patches For LoongArch Linux Support - Phoronix | Oct 13 14:55 | |
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| gustaf | good overview of sound historically on Linux and FreeBSD https://lobste.rs/s/moflv5/freebsd_audio_from_perspective_happy#c_mqvroo | Oct 13 14:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lobste.rs | FreeBSD audio from a perspective of a happy user | Lobsters | Oct 13 14:56 | |
| psydruid | I think it's damning that people can be bribed so easily to benefit only themselves at the expense of the many | Oct 13 14:56 |
| activelow | this is what i'll do next: blacklist gtk3,qt5, opengl/mesa are blacklisted already, and keep X11/gtk2 only and whatever remaining deserves maintenance | Oct 13 14:56 |
| techrights-news | #AMD Radeon RX 6600 Linux Performance • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156732 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 13 14:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | AMD Radeon RX 6600 Linux Performance | Tux Machines | Oct 13 14:57 | |
| techrights-news | #Graphics: OpenCL, Mesa, Vulkan • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156733 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 13 14:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Graphics: OpenCL, Mesa, Vulkan | Tux Machines | Oct 13 14:57 | |
| activelow | and from there no upgrade path remains anyymore for linux gui desktop | Oct 13 14:57 |
| activelow | this is what i mean, tuxmachines, advertising this shit] | Oct 13 14:57 |
| techrights-news | 7.4M #IOPS Achieved Per-Core With Newest Linux Patches - Phoronix ⚓ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=7.4M-IOPS-Linux-Per-Core ䷉ #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux 🐧 | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/10/13/#latest | Oct 13 14:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-7.4M IOPS Achieved Per-Core With Newest Linux Patches - Phoronix | Oct 13 14:57 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts | Oct 13 14:57 | |
| samiamsam | activelow: you use btrfs? | Oct 13 14:57 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | activelow: which one, mesa? | Oct 13 14:57 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | mesa isn't the worst of our problems | Oct 13 14:58 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | tuxmachines also mentions proprietary games | Oct 13 14:58 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | helps starve windows | Oct 13 14:58 |
| activelow | wishthinking | Oct 13 14:58 |
| activelow | samiamsam: no | Oct 13 14:58 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | you might be right | Oct 13 14:59 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | because windows kills itself | Oct 13 15:00 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | so we might not need to worry about steam drm shite | Oct 13 15:00 |
| activelow | i am not opposing steam, if anyone desires this | Oct 13 15:00 |
| activelow | problem is almost the entire linux gui desktop was locked into proprietary vendor extensions and opengl, which i do not accept | Oct 13 15:01 |
| activelow | opengl, ok. but not as a hard requirement | Oct 13 15:01 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | i see.. | Oct 13 15:01 |
| activelow | strong dependency | Oct 13 15:01 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | not just in kde? | Oct 13 15:01 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and in gnome? | Oct 13 15:01 |
| samiamsam | activelow: rsync? | Oct 13 15:02 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | their toolkits are to blame | Oct 13 15:02 |
| activelow | almost all of it is gone except for x11/gtk2 and what remains with it | Oct 13 15:02 |
| activelow | samiamsam: ? rsync isn't a gui desktop component. | Oct 13 15:02 |
| techrights-news | #Kernel: Performance, Chinese Hardware, and DAMON • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156734 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 13 15:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: Performance, Chinese Hardware, and DAMON | Tux Machines | Oct 13 15:03 | |
| samiamsam | activelow: i mean, do you use rsync? | Oct 13 15:03 |
| activelow | why? | Oct 13 15:03 |
| activelow | and sure, rsync is necessary. | Oct 13 15:03 |
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| techrights-news | #Google #Android Leftovers • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156731 #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 13 15:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Oct 13 15:04 | |
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| techrights-news | #Adobe Gives a Free PDF Editor for Google Chrome and Edge Users • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156730 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 13 15:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Adobe Gives a Free PDF Editor for Google Chrome and Edge Users | Tux Machines | Oct 13 15:05 | |
| activelow | schestowitz-TR2: there is no upgrade path remaining anymore | Oct 13 15:05 |
| psydruid | if you remove mesa the 2d desktop breaks? | Oct 13 15:06 |
| techrights-news | #google lies https://www.techradar.com/news/google-dismisses-claims-android-smartphones-snoop-on-users | Oct 13 15:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Google dismisses claims Android smartphones snoop on users | TechRadar | Oct 13 15:06 | |
| samiamsam | activelow: you can send me your rootfs over rsync | Oct 13 15:07 |
| activelow | psydruid: not everything, qtgui breaks, gtk3 by default insists on opengl (can be fixed) | Oct 13 15:08 |
| psydruid | I'm not sure I care about qtgui that much anymore | Oct 13 15:08 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | https://nitter.eu/GATETA30/status/1448283260543451138#m | Oct 13 15:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.eu | GATETA30 (@GATETA30): "93/100: Aquí se puede ver y analizar una extensa lista de datos y una cronología de todas las irregularidades relacionadas con la Fundación Bill y Melinda Gates:http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gates_Foundation_Critique" | nitter | Oct 13 15:08 | |
| psydruid | I have only one of my systems still running KDE Plasma | Oct 13 15:08 |
| samiamsam | activelow: rsync to d@cryptonomic.net:public_rsync/ | Oct 13 15:08 |
| psydruid | and don't indent to put it on anything older | Oct 13 15:09 |
| MinceR | https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/agi | Oct 13 15:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - AGI | Oct 13 15:09 | |
| *schestowitz-TR2 does not know what the above says | Oct 13 15:09 | |
| schestowitz-TR2 | MinceR: Hey GI!! | Oct 13 15:10 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | "wanna have fun?" | Oct 13 15:10 |
| psydruid | Here you can see and analyze an extended list of dates (or data) and a chronology of all the irregularities related to the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation | Oct 13 15:10 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | thanks! | Oct 13 15:10 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | that was mins ago | Oct 13 15:10 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | earlier today I forgot what I had been planning to write | Oct 13 15:11 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | 2 hours later I am still trying to recall; I just know it's not important | Oct 13 15:11 |
| *schestowitz-TR2 needs to take more notes to offload thoughts onto 'paper' | Oct 13 15:11 | |
| schestowitz-TR2 | DaemonFC has been quiet, maybe he's typing | Oct 13 15:11 |
| psydruid | That's good, he's been very productive lately | Oct 13 15:12 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | yeah | Oct 13 15:12 |
| *activelow departs for a short nap | Oct 13 15:12 | |
| schestowitz-TR2 | many channels active today, so my mind is all cluttered | Oct 13 15:12 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | all I can do is take more notes | Oct 13 15:12 |
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| psydruid | I am getting the idea the channels are more active than they were on Freenode | Oct 13 15:13 |
| techrights-news | #documentfoundation os #libreoffice working to improve #accessibility https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2021/10/13/tender-to-implement-c-accessibility-tests-202110-01/ #freesw | Oct 13 15:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.documentfoundation.org | Tender to implement C++ accessibility tests (#202110-01) - The Document Foundation Blog | Oct 13 15:13 | |
| schestowitz-TR2 | the log for this channel alone was almost 1mb yesterday | Oct 13 15:14 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | the channels were also very busy 10+ years ago | Oct 13 15:14 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | back then more people used irc | Oct 13 15:14 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | during the days of flux over irc networks it was also very busy | Oct 13 15:14 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | almost 100 online users 'here' (but in freenode) | Oct 13 15:14 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | but a lot of noise too | Oct 13 15:14 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and people fighting, which helps nobody | Oct 13 15:15 |
| techrights-news | #ibm #redhat de-commoditising #containers https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/sudo-rootless-podman #vendorLockin | Oct 13 15:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Why can't I use sudo with rootless Podman? | Enable Sysadmin | Oct 13 15:17 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▂▃▄▂▃▅▅▂▆▆▅▃▅▅▇▅▅▃▃▃▁▂▆▄▅▃▆▅▃▆▄▅▇▁ avg(k/sec) 22.06 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▁▂▃▁▃▂▂▂▁▂▅▁▁▂▂▂▁▁▁▃▂▃▃▁▁▂▁▄▅▂█▂▂▁ avg(k/sec) 7.66▕ swarm size (avg): 260.80 ⟲ | Oct 13 15:18 |
| techrights-news | #ibm #redhat : CANCEL the founder of GNU!!!! Also IBM, Red Hat, today: we LOVE GNU! It's OURS! ALL MINE! https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2021/10/13/printf-style-debugging-using-gdb-part-2 | Oct 13 15:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developers.redhat.com | Printf-style debugging using GDB, Part 2 | Red Hat Developer | Oct 13 15:19 | |
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| activelow | samiamsam: what would you want with the rootfs? | Oct 13 15:20 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | make me a sanwich | Oct 13 15:20 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | *sand | Oct 13 15:20 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | !! | Oct 13 15:20 |
| *MinceR casts Baleful Polymorph | Oct 13 15:21 | |
| MinceR | you are now a sandwich. | Oct 13 15:21 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | sudo su sandwich | Oct 13 15:21 |
| *schestowitz-TR2 is now known as sandwich | Oct 13 15:21 | |
| *sandwich is now known as sandwitz | Oct 13 15:21 | |
| MinceR | lol | Oct 13 15:21 |
| techrights-news | #Archman 20211012 is out. #gnu #linux http://archman.org/ #turkey #tr | Oct 13 15:23 |
| -altlink_22b/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: archman.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/http://archman.org/ | Oct 13 15:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-archman.org | Archman GNU/Linux | Oct 13 15:23 | |
| techrights-news | #Archcraft October Release Available • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156735 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 13 15:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Archcraft October Release Available | Tux Machines | Oct 13 15:25 | |
| samiamsam | activelow: i would try to boot it | Oct 13 15:26 |
| techrights-news | Igor Seletskiy Steps Down to Assure #AlmaLinux Independence - FOSS Force ⚓ https://fossforce.com/2021/10/igor-seletskiy-steps-down-to-assure-almalinux-independence/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=igor-seletskiy-steps-down-to-assure-almalinux-independence ䷉ @brideoflinux from @fossforce has been watching them closely... #clownlinux | Oct 13 15:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com | Igor Seletskiy Steps Down to Assure AlmaLinux Independence - FOSS Force | Oct 13 15:26 | |
| techrights-news | Latest #RedHat #IBM corporate plunder of #feminism as a movement ⚓ https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/celebrating-ada-lovelace-4-career-lessons-women-technology IBM sexism: http://techrights.org/wiki/IBM#Sexism | Oct 13 15:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Celebrating Ada Lovelace with 4 career lessons from women in technology | Oct 13 15:28 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM - Techrights | Oct 13 15:28 | |
| techrights-news | #ibm #redhat pushing #vendorLockin such as #Ansible under the guise of #kubernetes training https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/kube-example-expands-training-curriculum-new-learning-paths-kubernetes-developers | Oct 13 15:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Kube by Example expands training curriculum with new learning paths for Kubernetes developers | Oct 13 15:30 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Facebook said my news comment goes against their standard. I said I hope that since the Taliban don't want American help in dealing with ISIS, that they enjoy being beheaded themselves when the even more fanatical Muslims eventually destroy them. | Oct 13 15:31 |
| DaemonFC | I wonder who I offended. ISIS, or the Taliban. | Oct 13 15:31 |
| MinceR | (cat) https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/cute-baby-animal-photos-26.jpg | Oct 13 15:31 |
| -altlink_22b/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: pleated-jeans.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/cute-baby-animal-photos-26.jpg | Oct 13 15:31 | |
| sandwitz | you triggered "bad words" | Oct 13 15:31 |
| sandwitz | those words can trigger people | Oct 13 15:31 |
| sandwitz | did you add "content waning"? | Oct 13 15:32 |
| sandwitz | of course it has been proven they do not work | Oct 13 15:32 |
| sandwitz | in fact, they entice people to click and/or read on | Oct 13 15:32 |
| sandwitz | DaemonFC: why did you mention "bad words" | Oct 13 15:32 |
| sandwitz | "THOSE BAD WORDS... they just WO'T GO AWAY" | Oct 13 15:32 |
| sandwitz | #FreeBritney | Oct 13 15:32 |
| sandwitz | #LeaveBritneyAlone | Oct 13 15:32 |
| gustaf | schestowitz: was the raw log 1MB, or the generated one? | Oct 13 15:34 |
| sandwitz | html | Oct 13 15:34 |
| sandwitz | I can check the output report | Oct 13 15:34 |
| sandwitz | it comes up 4am | Oct 13 15:34 |
| sandwitz | I have it automated fully | Oct 13 15:34 |
| sandwitz | the code is in gemini:// | Oct 13 15:35 |
| DaemonFC | https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/10/13/facebook-insulting-the-taliban-will-get-you-talibanned/ | Oct 13 15:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Facebook: Insulting the Taliban will get you Talibanned. – BaronHK's Rants | Oct 13 15:35 | |
| schestowitz | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/git/tr-git/IRC/ | Oct 13 15:35 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: nice play of word | Oct 13 15:36 |
| techrights-news | #facebook is like #twitter ... protecting extremists. Recently, #trump lawyers made an argument that's unfortunately legit (sitting US president banned, Taliban... OK!) https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/10/13/facebook-insulting-the-taliban-will-get-you-talibanned/ | Oct 13 15:37 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, "Regardless, I think we ought to really thank Facebook for creating a safe space for pigdogs who rape 12 year olds." | Oct 13 15:38 |
| sandwitz | don't worry | Oct 13 15:38 |
| sandwitz | I'm sure they'll marry them later | Oct 13 15:38 |
| sandwitz | to spite their heads | Oct 13 15:38 |
| sandwitz | it's not rape if she becomes the bride afterwards | Oct 13 15:39 |
| DaemonFC | They don't like pigs, so pigdog seemed appropriate. | Oct 13 15:39 |
| DaemonFC | Neither one is a very clean animal. | Oct 13 15:39 |
| sandwitz | dogs and pigs are nice | Oct 13 15:39 |
| DaemonFC | They both roll around in their own shit. | Oct 13 15:39 |
| sandwitz | taliban are not | Oct 13 15:39 |
| sandwitz | stop offending dogs and pigs | Oct 13 15:39 |
| sandwitz | you can be banned!! | Oct 13 15:39 |
| sandwitz | but facebook might look at it differently | Oct 13 15:39 |
| sandwitz | you offend head choppers | Oct 13 15:39 |
| sandwitz | by comparing them to harmless animals | Oct 13 15:39 |
| DaemonFC | Cats obsessively groom themselves. | Oct 13 15:40 |
| sandwitz | they do | Oct 13 15:40 |
| sandwitz | we like the neighbour's cats | Oct 13 15:40 |
| sandwitz | 3 of them | Oct 13 15:40 |
| sandwitz | rianne interacted with one this morning | Oct 13 15:40 |
| DaemonFC | Dogs are like "OH GOOD A PILE OF SHIT! OH BOY, SHIT! I WANNA ROLL IN SHIT! PLEASE LET ME ROLL IN THE SHIT!" | Oct 13 15:40 |
| sandwitz | they come to our garden and hang around, | Oct 13 15:40 |
| sandwitz | not buying a dog yet | Oct 13 15:41 |
| DaemonFC | I was constantly giving our dog a bath because my mom would let her out with no leash on and she's come back in after rolling in shit. | Oct 13 15:41 |
| sandwitz | dogs are fun in summer | Oct 13 15:41 |
| sandwitz | walking them when it's -5 outside... not to fun | Oct 13 15:41 |
| sandwitz | *too | Oct 13 15:41 |
| DaemonFC | One winter, she came back in the house and i said, "What's that in your mouth?", and she plopped it on the floor. | Oct 13 15:41 |
| DaemonFC | A pile of frozen shit. Which I dubbed, the turdcicle. | Oct 13 15:41 |
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| sandwitz | lo, grats | Oct 13 15:42 |
| *sandwitz is now known as schestowitz-TR | Oct 13 15:42 | |
| DaemonFC | Other than that, she was a good dog. | Oct 13 15:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | what a bitch | Oct 13 15:42 |
| schestowitz | activelow: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=R300-Friday-Night-2021 | Oct 13 15:43 |
| -altlink_22b/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: phoronix.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=R300-Friday-Night-2021 | Oct 13 15:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Nearly Two Decades Later, ATI Radeon R300 Linux Driver Sees Occasional Improvement - Phoronix | Oct 13 15:43 | |
| activelow | schestowitz: what would i want with this? | Oct 13 15:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | 20 years old | Oct 13 15:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | non-free | Oct 13 15:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | but comes to show it IS possible for companies to 'care' | Oct 13 15:44 |
| techrights-news | #IBM , #RedHat , and #AlmaLinux • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156736 #GNU #Linux | Oct 13 15:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM, Red Hat, and AlmaLinux | Tux Machines | Oct 13 15:45 | |
| techrights-news | #Security Leftovers • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156737 | Oct 13 15:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines | Oct 13 15:45 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, Have you heard of a company called TuxCare? | Oct 13 15:46 |
| DaemonFC | I came across them claiming to offer paid EOL support for ancient RHEL and clones. | Oct 13 15:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes | Oct 13 15:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | SJVN shills them | Oct 13 15:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | zdnet is 90% spam | Oct 13 15:46 |
| DaemonFC | Isn't migrate2rocky.sh easier for at least recent CentOS releases? | Oct 13 15:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | [14:43] <techrights-news> "ZDNet Academy" = misleading euphemism for #zdnet SPAM SECTION. They even misuse the term "Academy" to whiten their SPAM. #boycottzdnet ... it needs to be burned to the ground; #microsoft propaganda machine http://techrights.org/wiki/ZDNet | Oct 13 15:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | ZDNet - Techrights | Oct 13 15:47 | |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: rocky I've not tried | Oct 13 15:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | and running some random shell script looks iffy | Oct 13 15:47 |
| DaemonFC | TuxCare is trying to scare people that CentOS will be "unsupported" when you could just use the migration script to Rocky and get updates for free. | Oct 13 15:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | that suggests they are still in early stages | Oct 13 15:48 |
| DaemonFC | It just changes your package manager repos around to point to theirs. | Oct 13 15:48 |
| DaemonFC | Oracle and Red Hat do the same. | Oct 13 15:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | unless you run that on some test box and pray | Oct 13 15:48 |
| DaemonFC | To steal each others customers and migrate people off of CentOS. | Oct 13 15:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: they just sign some paperwork | Oct 13 15:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | pay loads of money | Oct 13 15:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | for SLA | Oct 13 15:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | so they can blame someone | Oct 13 15:49 |
| DaemonFC | I mean, in theory at least you could go from it being CentOS to RHEL to Oracle to Rocky without even reinstalling the OS. | Oct 13 15:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | they rarely open a ticket | Oct 13 15:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's a huge waste of money | Oct 13 15:49 |
| DaemonFC | With those scripts. | Oct 13 15:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | just for arse-covering | Oct 13 15:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | or "compliance" | Oct 13 15:49 |
| DaemonFC | Someone asked me about Pure OS and I had to say I didn't know other than it was based on Debian. | Oct 13 15:50 |
| DaemonFC | And why would you do that? What's the benefit? You get their business ambitions in the way of your computing, like Ubuntu. | Oct 13 15:50 |
| DaemonFC | They may go bust and there's no easy migration to Debian? | Oct 13 15:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | I think there is | Oct 13 15:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe not very easy | Oct 13 15:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | same for devuan | Oct 13 15:51 |
| DaemonFC | The fact that Devuan makes mjg59 hiss makes me want to try it out. | Oct 13 15:52 |
| DaemonFC | He implies there's something broken about a system that changes away from 2 million lines of systemd that still hangs on reboot 7 years later. | Oct 13 15:52 |
| DaemonFC | It's not very inspiring when you look at the commit log and after Poettering himself, #2 by commits is Kay Sievers, which Linus Torvalds has chewed out over braindead stupid ideas like kdbus. | Oct 13 15:54 |
| DaemonFC | They want to take a giant attack surface that has horrible performance chokepoints, and instead of fixing it, shove it into the kernel where it will have to be maintained by somebody else. | Oct 13 15:55 |
| DaemonFC | They still want to do that. | Oct 13 15:55 |
| DaemonFC | It's not bad enough that dbus is there to begin with. | Oct 13 15:55 |
| activelow | my grievance with systemd/dbus : it is being *enforced* almost always, similar to UEFI which is enforced | Oct 13 15:55 |
| DaemonFC | mjg59 pretends at security a lot, but with shit like kdbus being proposed, I mean.... | Oct 13 15:56 |
| DaemonFC | The kernel is already hard to audit. Much of it is code dumps, especially in drivers, with no explanation of how it works. | Oct 13 15:56 |
| DaemonFC | With things like kdbus in there, it'll be even harder to audit, and then we're supposed to trust that broken firmware and his idiotic kernel lockdown shit that just breaks the kernel MORE is going to paper over all of that. | Oct 13 15:57 |
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| psydruid | reading the Wikipedia article about dbus things are still not that clear to me | Oct 13 15:58 |
| DaemonFC | "As a very unfortunate side effect, we're breaking power management, but on the upside at least my paycheck from Microsoft cleared the bank again this week!" - mjg59 on kernel lockdown (not an actual quote) | Oct 13 15:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: devuan is resistance against IBM Hat | Oct 13 15:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | the troll got many salaries from IBM Hat | Oct 13 15:58 |
| DaemonFC | He's bungling around pretending to make progress in getting Hibernation working again. | Oct 13 15:58 |
| psydruid | why is it needed and why couldn't System V message passing be used for that? | Oct 13 15:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | he is not a programmer | Oct 13 15:59 |
| DaemonFC | But it's clear he has made no actual progress and wouldn't know where to begin. | Oct 13 15:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | he's a failed biologist | Oct 13 15:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | who messed around with code | Oct 13 15:59 |
| psydruid | and why not have something like micro-permissions? | Oct 13 15:59 |
| DaemonFC | He keeps blogging that he hit another way to make it not work properly. | Oct 13 15:59 |
| activelow | psydruid: dbus does not require any replacement | Oct 13 15:59 |
| DaemonFC | It works fine with secure boot turned off or kernel lockdown not on. | Oct 13 15:59 |
| activelow | desktop processes need not to pass messages around | Oct 13 16:00 |
| psydruid | activelow, I don't know what purpose it serves | Oct 13 16:00 |
| psydruid | this is like Windows with its OLE stuff | Oct 13 16:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | people who cannot code join cults, like miguel de icaza and nat friedman | Oct 13 16:00 |
| activelow | and certainly doesn't dbus need to hoock into system-auth, network-config, and whatever else there is | Oct 13 16:00 |
| activelow | hook | Oct 13 16:00 |
| DaemonFC | We need mjg59 to save us from malware. Theoretical malware. When he says it's not theoretical, just look, it ends up being a screen shot involving Windows Boot Manager. | Oct 13 16:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | or join "anti-harassment teams" and stuff | Oct 13 16:00 |
| DaemonFC | That famous GNU project. Windows Boot Manager. | Oct 13 16:01 |
| DaemonFC | On every "Linux" PC. Windows Boot Manager. | Oct 13 16:01 |
| *schestowitz-TR preparing Daily Links | Oct 13 16:01 | |
| psydruid | Grand Unified Windows Boot Manager | Oct 13 16:01 |
| activelow | the promis was with such components in place (dbus,systemd,polkit,pulseaudio) user comfort was increased | Oct 13 16:02 |
| psydruid | to go where no boot manager has gone before | Oct 13 16:02 |
| psydruid | and was it? | Oct 13 16:02 |
| activelow | even if, i don't think it does in the end, i do NOT want any of this being enforced, because it has severe disadvantages too | Oct 13 16:02 |
| activelow | i rather type some config into .asoundrc or ifconfig up/down something, instead of risking authentication being hijacked by dbus | Oct 13 16:03 |
| activelow | when, in parallel web browser too attaches to this message bus | Oct 13 16:03 |
| psydruid | so the idea is useful and the implementation is bad? | Oct 13 16:04 |
| psydruid | or is the entire idea bad and it shouldn't have existed at all? | Oct 13 16:04 |
| activelow | my opinion? I think it is both a bad idea which cannot be implemented without severe problems. | Oct 13 16:04 |
| activelow | however, this is not my decision to be made. my decision is this: i do not want it. if anyone else wants this, ok. enforcing this onto those who reject it is criminal. | Oct 13 16:06 |
| techrights-news | Links 13/10/2021: #SparkyLinux 2021.10 and New Archcraft • 𝕋𝕖𝕔𝕙𝕣𝕚𝕘𝕙𝕥𝕤 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/10/13/sparky-2021-10/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/13/sparky-2021-10/ | Oct 13 16:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 13/10/2021: Sparky 2021.10 and New Archcraft | Techrights | Oct 13 16:14 | |
| techrights-news | #Programming Leftovers • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156738 | Oct 13 16:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines | Oct 13 16:14 | |
| techrights-news | #PostgreSQL Leftovers • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156739 | Oct 13 16:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | PostgreSQL Leftovers | Tux Machines | Oct 13 16:15 | |
| activelow | anyway, uefi and systemd are separate concerns. i reject both of them. | Oct 13 16:16 |
| techrights-news | today’s leffovers • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156740 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 13 16:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Oct 13 16:16 | |
| techrights-news | #UnGoogled #Chromium and PDF Editor for #Google #Chrome • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156741 #TuxMachines | Oct 13 16:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Un-Googled Chromium and PDF Editor for Google Chrome | Tux Machines | Oct 13 16:16 | |
| schestowitz-TR | activelow: the issues are different | Oct 13 16:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | also, uefi and 'secure' boot are not the same | Oct 13 16:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | uefi has issues with complexity | Oct 13 16:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | the bios companies and intel try to keep workers occupied | Oct 13 16:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | so they add more bloat | Oct 13 16:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | even if nobody needs it or asked for it | Oct 13 16:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | they call it "innovation" | Oct 13 16:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | system: how about if we also replace [x]? | Oct 13 16:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | they spread it like a cancer | Oct 13 16:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | until they get to the kernel | Oct 13 16:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | and schedulers etc. | Oct 13 16:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | by then, maybe zemlin will have torvalds wrapped up in a straitjacket with masking tape on the mouth | Oct 13 16:19 |
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| techrights-news | Links 13/10/2021: #SparkyLinux 2021.10 and New Archcraft • 𝕋𝕖𝕔𝕙𝕣𝕚𝕘𝕙𝕥𝕤 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/10/13/sparky-2021-10/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/13/sparky-2021-10/ | Oct 13 16:21 |
| techrights-news | Ha. #watchtroll using "HEY HI" again as placeholder or euphemism for lousy #fakepatents and #swpats ... or ones that are merely program output ("Where We Are on AI Inventorship and Where We Should be Heading") | Oct 13 16:22 |
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| techrights-news | This is framed as a shameless #advertisement instead of actual reporting about a #patent case. #JUVE is a marketing company now, which occasionally lies for lobbyists. https://www.juve-patent.com/news-and-stories/cases/koenig-bauer-wins-infringement-case-against-hebenstreit/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Juve | Oct 13 16:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.juve-patent.com | Koenig & Bauer wins infringement case against Hebenstreit - JUVE Patent | Oct 13 16:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Juve - Techrights | Oct 13 16:24 | |
| activelow | schestowitz-TR: if intel staff is bored i had enough work for them | Oct 13 16:26 |
| activelow | beginning with, some real science and engineering | Oct 13 16:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's hard | Oct 13 16:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's easier to open a github account | Oct 13 16:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | they drove out the real scientists | Oct 13 16:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | who resigned | Oct 13 16:27 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaks | Oct 13 16:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Intel leaks - Techrights | Oct 13 16:27 | |
| techrights-news | "Mr. #Iancu had gutted the #PTAB IPR (inter partes review) part of the AIA by establishing a discretionary-denial regime." http://www.fosspatents.com/2021/10/restoring-america-invents-act.html see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Andrei_Iancu | Oct 13 16:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosspatents.com | FOSS Patents: Restoring the America Invents Act: legislative measure to defend post-grant review of U.S. patents welcomed by tech industry, patent experts | Oct 13 16:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Andrei Iancu - Techrights | Oct 13 16:31 | |
| techrights-news | Instead of #journalism JUVE is now doing ads for #law firms, puff pieces thinly disguised as nothing but "case studies"; JUVE is just a PR agency now https://www.juve-patent.com/news-and-stories/cases/hanwha-q-cells-and-hoyng-rokh-monegier-win-cross-border-injunction-against-longi/ | Oct 13 16:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.juve-patent.com | Hanwha Q-Cells and Hoyng ROKH Monegier win cross-border injunction against Longi - JUVE Patent | Oct 13 16:32 | |
| techrights-news | Misusing the words "IP" (which are both inappropriate for the subject at hand https://www.managingip.com/article/b1tzjl13g93h2k/opinion-tired-of-brexit-the-exhaustion-is-still-to-come | Oct 13 16:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | Opinion: Tired of Brexit? The exhaustion is still to come! | Managing Intellectual Property | Oct 13 16:34 | |
| techrights-news | #Texas run by corrupt judges who treat their courts like for-profit corporations; the higher #patent courts belatedly tackle this #corruption from the whackos of #Waco http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/10/13/patent-case-in-re-juniper-networks-inc-usa/ | Oct 13 16:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | Patent case: In re Juniper Networks Inc., USA - Kluwer Patent Blog | Oct 13 16:36 | |
| techrights-news | Oh gosh. #fakesecurity on steroids. Yes, let's trust this "third party"; great idea!! https://www.maketecheasier.com/1password-share-passwords-via-secure-link/ | Oct 13 16:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | 1Password Now Allows You to Share Passwords via Secure Link - Make Tech Easier | Oct 13 16:39 | |
| techrights-news | #WallStreet ’s Takeover of #Nature Advances with Launch of New Asset Class ⚓ https://unlimitedhangout.com/2021/10/investigative-reports/wall-streets-takeover-of-nature-advances-with-launch-of-new-asset-class/ ䷉ #unlimitedhangout | Oct 13 16:40 |
| -altlink_22b/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: unlimitedhangout.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://unlimitedhangout.com/2021/10/investigative-reports/wall-streets-takeover-of-nature-advances-with-launch-of-new-asset-class/ | Oct 13 16:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-unlimitedhangout.com | Wall Street’s Takeover of Nature Advances with Launch of New Asset Class | Oct 13 16:40 | |
| schestowitz | lol https://www.gsmarena.com/microsoft_and_amd_to_patch_the_performance_issues_on_ryzenpowered_windows_11_pcs-news-51403.php | Oct 13 16:41 |
| -altlink_22b/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: gsmarena.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gsmarena.com/microsoft_and_amd_to_patch_the_performance_issues_on_ryzenpowered_windows_11_pcs-news-51403.php | Oct 13 16:41 | |
| schestowitz | da | Oct 13 16:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft and AMD to patch Ryzen bug on Windows 11 PCs next week - GSMArena.com news | Oct 13 16:41 | |
| schestowitz-TR | AFTER a release | Oct 13 16:41 |
| techrights-news | #uspto #fakepatents #patentTrolls -- #patent on "method and system for interaction between a processor and a power on reset circuit" https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2021/10/12/prior-art-found-on-heritage-ip-patent | Oct 13 16:43 |
| -altlink_22b/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: unifiedpatents.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2021/10/12/prior-art-found-on-heritage-ip-patent | Oct 13 16:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.unifiedpatents.com | Prior art found on Heritage IP patent — Unified Patents | Oct 13 16:43 | |
| MinceR | 13 165055 < DaemonFC> And why would you do that? What's the benefit? You get their business ambitions in the way of your computing, like Ubuntu. | Oct 13 16:45 |
| MinceR | with debian (and every other systemd/Linux distro) you still get ibm's business ambitions in the way of your computing | Oct 13 16:45 |
| techrights-news | #europe does not have "IPR rules"; it has laws for patents, copyrights, etc. and they're not "rights; what we have here is lobbying that namedrops "SMEs" and shameless (massive) lies about #upc in the middle https://www.theparliamentmagazine.eu/news/article/the-key-to-innovation @zoobab | Oct 13 16:45 |
| -altlink_22b/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: theparliamentmagazine.eu | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theparliamentmagazine.eu/news/article/the-key-to-innovation | Oct 13 16:45 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theparliamentmagazine.eu | Europe’s IPR rules need to be strengthened to ensure they meet current and future challenges, explains Marion Walsmann | Oct 13 16:45 | |
| techrights-news | What we basically have here is a #German #EPP MEP frontally attacking small businesses by lying about them while claiming to speak for them. #germany #de #corruption | Oct 13 16:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | activelow: ^^ | Oct 13 16:48 |
| techrights-news | #Softwarepatents #propaganda and other nefarious agenda from #Salesforce disguised as 'journalism' from the voice of #patenttrolls , Patrick Wingrove https://www.managingip.com/article/b1tyqlp2nqkshs/corner-office-podcast-managing-salesforce39s-diverse-ip-needs #swpats | Oct 13 16:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | Corner office podcast: Managing Salesforce's diverse IP needs | Managing Intellectual Property | Oct 13 16:50 | |
| activelow | schestowitz-TR: thanks. bookmarked, i'll read it later. need some sleep. | Oct 13 16:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | kk | Oct 13 16:52 |
| activelow | seems full of nonsense. german industry and science outsourced most of theirs elsewhere. | Oct 13 16:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, total lies | Oct 13 16:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | for big pharma | Oct 13 16:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | and lawyers | Oct 13 16:53 |
| activelow | the article doesn't mention pharmacy | Oct 13 16:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | the "owners" of the countru | Oct 13 16:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | activelow: of course not | Oct 13 16:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | it lies about SMEs | Oct 13 16:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | to promote an SME killer | Oct 13 16:54 |
| MinceR | https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/two-weeks | Oct 13 16:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Two weeks | Oct 13 16:56 | |
| techrights-news | #europe does not have “IPR rules”; it has laws for patents, copyrights, etc. and they’re not "rights; what we have here is lobbying that namedrops “SMEs” and shameless (massive) lies about #upc in the middle https://www.theparliamentmagazine.eu/news/article/the-key-to-innovation @zoobab | Oct 13 16:58 |
| -altlink_22b/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: theparliamentmagazine.eu | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theparliamentmagazine.eu/news/article/the-key-to-innovation | Oct 13 16:58 | |
| techrights-news | And in #zdnet SJVN is again posting #linuxfoundation ads. This is the reason you should #boycottzdnet ... it's tons of paid-for spam, which many people wrongly interpret as news. http://techrights.org/wiki/ZDNet | Oct 13 17:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | ZDNet - Techrights | Oct 13 17:01 | |
| techrights-news | A lot of my RSS feeds have become paid-for 'RSS' spam streams because sites are selling out and syndicators treat these line "news". The #www very rapidly become a spam farm. Time to move to #geminiSpace ... where possible. | Oct 13 17:03 |
| techrights-news | #LinuxFoundation and Other ’Diploma Mills’ Say There’s Demand for Their Products in Their New 'Research' (Marketing) • 𝕋𝕖𝕔𝕙𝕣𝕚𝕘𝕙𝕥𝕤 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/09/23/lf-diploma-mill-and-narrative-control-by-fake-research/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/09/23/lf-diploma-mill-and-narrative-control-by-fake-research/ | Oct 13 17:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation and Other ‘Diploma Mills’ Say There’s Demand for Their Products in Their New ‘Research’ (Marketing) | Techrights | Oct 13 17:03 | |
| techrights-news | #sjvn at #zdnet = marketer, not journalist ("...offers low introductory price"). Will he sell lemonade at "low introductory price" when ZDNet folds? | Oct 13 17:05 |
| techrights-news | #zdnet is a lot worse than just spam http://techrights.org/2020/09/10/sjvn-senior-moment/ | Oct 13 17:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | One Year Later Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols’ Libel Against Richard Stallman Remains Online and Uncorrected at ZDNet | Techrights | Oct 13 17:06 | |
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| techrights-news | #sjvn basically REWROTE this bloody PRESS RELEASE for #zdnet because the anti-Linux Foundation pays ZDNet to do this. It is a DEEPLY COMPROMISED site. It defames people, lies for Microsoft, trolls the community for #ibm https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/devops-bootcamp-to-lower-barrier-to-entry-for-technology-roles-301398428.html | Oct 13 17:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.prnewswire.com | DevOps Bootcamp to Lower Barrier to Entry for Technology Roles | Oct 13 17:10 | |
| techrights-news | If only this was about operating systems and removing back doors... https://www.stanforddaily.com/2021/10/13/undergraduate-senate/ | Oct 13 17:11 |
| -altlink_22b/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: stanforddaily.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.stanforddaily.com/2021/10/13/undergraduate-senate/ | Oct 13 17:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.stanforddaily.com | Undergraduate Senate unanimously passes Ubuntu Bill, introducing guidelines for conflict management between student groups | The Stanford Daily | Oct 13 17:11 | |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156742 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 13 17:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Oct 13 17:15 | |
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| techrights-news | What is the #GNULinux Operating System? • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156743 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 13 17:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | What is the Linux Operating System? | Tux Machines | Oct 13 17:16 | |
| techrights-news | #KDE ’s 25th Anniversary • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156744 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 13 17:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE's 25th Anniversary | Tux Machines | Oct 13 17:16 | |
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| techrights-news | SPAMnil said SJVN was his "mentor", but I'm not sure if SJVN became a SPAMnil or vice versa. Either way, #linuxfoundation #ibm and #microsoft corrupt people, turning them (using money) into worthless marketers | Oct 13 17:20 |
| techrights-news | #redhat 1990s: engineering. #ibm Red Hat: spam and #marketing https://opensource.com/article/21/10/open-source-product-market | Oct 13 17:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Going to market with an open source product | Opensource.com | Oct 13 17:22 | |
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| techrights-news | LOL. #redhat on "planned messaging" and "product marketing". #freesw is "product" and get this.... "planned messaging" .... "planned messaging" .... "planned messaging" ... think what that means. Bernays would be proud. #ibm | Oct 13 17:23 |
| techrights-news | #redhat : we built #rhel and #fedora ... #ibm : we destroyed/scuttled #fedora community and killed our own #centos http://techrights.org/2021/08/20/we-build-fedora-and-then-ibm-blacklists-us/ | Oct 13 17:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Imperialistic Blacklist Machines: Racist IBM and Red Hat — Just Like Donald Trump — Have Turned Fedora Into an Utterly Racist Project That Blacklists, Shuns and Permanently Bans People Based on Their Nationality Alone | Techrights | Oct 13 17:24 | |
| techrights-news | 5 #markdown editors I recommend trying • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156745 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 13 17:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 5 markdown editors I recommend trying | Tux Machines | Oct 13 17:25 | |
| techrights-news | #IBM Attacking Communities/Volunteers (yes, it is a clear pattern) http://techrights.org/wiki/IBM#Attacking_Communities.2FVolunteers #redhat | Oct 13 17:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM - Techrights | Oct 13 17:26 | |
| techrights-news | The Internet trolls who shield the corporate #monopolies don't want to argue over technical and factual matters. They, along with #microsoft managers (I'm omitting links here), try to turn everything into politics. And later they have the audacity to come up with a "no politics" CoC. The hypocrisy is just astounding. It's all about #censorship and gaslighting. Monopolising all aspects of control. | Oct 13 17:28 |
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| techrights-news | I have a colleague who used to say "Google is your friend" (not as a joke). This shows how pervasive corporate propaganda can become. | Oct 13 17:29 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/10/13/no-jwz-discord-is-not-irc-with-pictures/ | Oct 13 17:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | No, JWZ, Discord is not “IRC with pictures”. – BaronHK's Rants | Oct 13 17:32 | |
| schestowitz-TR | wot? | Oct 13 17:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | did he say/insinuate that? | Oct 13 17:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | irc has pictures | Oct 13 17:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | you click on their address | Oct 13 17:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | so you're not force to get junk | Oct 13 17:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | some irc clients can preoad tem | Oct 13 17:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | like in gemini | Oct 13 17:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | not that it's a desirable feature | Oct 13 17:33 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, Let me tweak this. | Oct 13 17:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | ok | Oct 13 17:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | I start work now | Oct 13 17:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | until 1am | Oct 13 17:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | today was super-busy | Oct 13 17:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | afternoon my rss feeds were full of paid-for spam | Oct 13 17:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | had to delete some feeds | Oct 13 17:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's getting worse | Oct 13 17:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | many sellouts out there | Oct 13 17:36 |
| DaemonFC | "IRC can do all of the important things you need it to do, and it hasn’t gotten much fatter than it was in the 1990s, despite having a new version on the way. | Oct 13 17:41 |
| DaemonFC | How many things on your computer can you say that about? Remember how slow Windows 98 was on the internet, on dial up? Remember progress bars taking forever, and pulling down menus being painfully slow? | Oct 13 17:41 |
| DaemonFC | Why is it, today, that your laptop is thousands of times faster than your desktop PC was then, and yet it feels like we’ve made no progress at all? | Oct 13 17:41 |
| DaemonFC | Windows has gotten morbidly obese to the point even a new computer feels slow right out of the box, which is alarming, and something they use to drive hardware sales, even though they’re like a shittier Apple now. Your PC is three years old! Throw it away! Windows 11! | Oct 13 17:41 |
| DaemonFC | They throw parties for themselves. They pull a string and OMG MSFT! Joey, Michael Larabel, and SJVN to dance for them. It’s sad. | Oct 13 17:41 |
| DaemonFC | But a few things certainly don’t need to get much fatter and more horrible as time goes on because they’re controlled by a community process (like some GNU/Linux operating systems), and IRC is definitely one of those things. Leave IRC alone! 😉" | Oct 13 17:41 |
| MinceR | did you expect a crApple cultist to understand what IRC is? | Oct 13 17:42 |
| MinceR | shitcord is shiny, therefore they worship shitcord | Oct 13 17:43 |
| MinceR | and the more abusive it is the more they love it | Oct 13 17:43 |
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| DaemonFC | https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/10/13/more-gnome-software-fail-useless-software-reviews/ | Oct 13 17:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | More GNOME Software FAIL. Useless software reviews. – BaronHK's Rants | Oct 13 17:57 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, ^ | Oct 13 17:57 |
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| DaemonFC | https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/10/13/end-of-life-google-chrome-devices-should-be-repurposed-with-gnu-linux/ | Oct 13 18:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | End of Life Google Chrome devices should be repurposed with GNU/Linux. – BaronHK's Rants | Oct 13 18:24 | |
| DaemonFC | "Save your money. Stick it in a 401(k). In 30 years when the in-laws are still drowning in debt from trying to keep up with the other folks at church, you can just laugh at them." | Oct 13 18:25 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, "I wonder if someone implemented the slider backwards and QA didn't notice." -JWZ | Oct 13 18:56 |
| MinceR | is the software useless or the review? :> | Oct 13 18:56 |
| DaemonFC | "Why not? That's how Apple's "Natural" Scrolling works." -Me | Oct 13 18:56 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, They held a mock funeral for OS 9 complete with a casket. As a warning that they had sacked anyone with GUI-building experience and hired on a bunch of lunatics who implemented UNIX incorrectly. | Oct 13 19:02 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/10/13/macos-11-6-makes-the-theme-worse-then-ever-free-software-guis-are-whatever-you-want-them-to-be/ | Oct 13 19:15 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, ^ | Oct 13 19:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | macOS 11.6 makes the theme worse then ever. Free Software GUIs are whatever you want them to be. – BaronHK's Rants | Oct 13 19:15 | |
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| AdmFubar | https://thenextweb.com/news/how-i-hacked-high-school-rick-astley-rickrolling-syndication | Oct 13 19:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thenextweb.com | How I hacked ALL displays in my high school district to play Rick Astley | Oct 13 19:16 | |
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| MinceR | :> | Oct 13 19:26 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, I plan to lampoon Fast Company. | Oct 13 19:39 |
| DaemonFC | Vivaldi recently linked to an article praising Vivaldi where the guy writing it said he wanted to make it the default but it couldn't "install progressive web apps" so that he could use his GMail. | Oct 13 19:39 |
| DaemonFC | That's what pinned tabs are for, dumbass. Also, IMAP. | Oct 13 19:40 |
| DaemonFC | Vivaldi does support IMAP. | Oct 13 19:40 |
| DaemonFC | As soon as Opera got sold to the Chinese, they started over with Chromium and never bothered to put any features that made Opera, Opera, back in it. | Oct 13 19:40 |
| DaemonFC | It was extremely disappointing where that went. | Oct 13 19:41 |
| DaemonFC | Once your browser hasn't had any "feature" updates in a few years, there will be severe rendering problems with websites, then in another year or two, many HTTPS sites won't even load at all anymore. | Oct 13 19:42 |
| DaemonFC | So for browsers in particular, once they're abandoned, you can't really use them for long. | Oct 13 19:43 |
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| AdmFubar | I really hope the otter project makes progress.. they are copying opera 12.x ui... | Oct 13 20:06 |
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| AdmFubar | https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/11/world/australia/facebook-post-missing-apostrophe-defamation.html?mc_cid=8e853febfe&mc_eid=d63e057ad6 | Oct 13 20:10 |
| -altlink_22b/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: nytimes.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/11/world/australia/facebook-post-missing-apostrophe-defamation.html?mc_cid=8e853febfe&mc_eid=d63e057ad6 | Oct 13 20:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Missing Apostrophe in Facebook Post May Cost a Man in Defamation Case - The New York Times | Oct 13 20:10 | |
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| AdmFubar | https://hackaday.com/2021/10/12/ibm-cheese-cutter-restoration/ | Oct 13 20:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-IBM Cheese Cutter Restoration | Hackaday | Oct 13 20:27 | |
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| mib_v43oqq | Is this a real chat room? | Oct 13 20:34 |
| mib_v43oqq | Trying to get in touch with @schestowitz | Oct 13 20:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | hi | Oct 13 20:35 |
| mib_v43oqq | hi, I sent you an email earlier. it's only been a few hours, but I saw this and thought I'd give you a heads up | Oct 13 20:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | I check mail once a day usually | Oct 13 20:36 |
| mib_v43oqq | Totally reasonable | Oct 13 20:37 |
| mib_v43oqq | it's in regards to Nat Friedman and his personal life | Oct 13 20:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | what's it about? I check if there's an urgent thing | Oct 13 20:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | ah | Oct 13 20:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | Friedman | Oct 13 20:37 |
| mib_v43oqq | from personal experience he's a misogynist | Oct 13 20:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | Miguel reared his ugly head several times this week | Oct 13 20:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | looks like it | Oct 13 20:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | based on his album | Oct 13 20:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | flickr iirc | Oct 13 20:37 |
| mib_v43oqq | you'll have to point that out to me | Oct 13 20:38 |
| mib_v43oqq | Miguel and I have been in touch | Oct 13 20:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | oh | Oct 13 20:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | well, this week Miguel attacks me | Oct 13 20:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | in Twitter | Oct 13 20:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | suggesting "mental" things | Oct 13 20:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | because ages ago we exposed who he was | Oct 13 20:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | he and Nat worked for Microsoft for 25 years | Oct 13 20:39 |
| mib_v43oqq | the email is about Alex Graveley | Oct 13 20:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | Nat blocked me proavtive in Twitter | Oct 13 20:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | afraid that I might see what he posts | Oct 13 20:39 |
| mib_v43oqq | I'm also blocked | Oct 13 20:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | he blocks many people | Oct 13 20:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | I never spoke to Nat | Oct 13 20:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | he just blocked me | Oct 13 20:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe didn't want to see my tweets | Oct 13 20:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | but he could mute | Oct 13 20:40 |
| mib_v43oqq | Nat hired a domestic abuser to run Copilot and Codespaces | Oct 13 20:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | knowingly? | Oct 13 20:40 |
| mib_v43oqq | knowingly | Oct 13 20:40 |
| mib_v43oqq | he's his best friend and has a widespread reputation for abusing women, sometimes men at work | Oct 13 20:41 |
| mib_v43oqq | Alex Graveley from Hackpad | Oct 13 20:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | there was a github scandal to that effect | Oct 13 20:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | a co-founder | Oct 13 20:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | but nothing to do with Microsoft | Oct 13 20:42 |
| mib_v43oqq | worked at the original Xamarin | Oct 13 20:42 |
| mib_v43oqq | well, they're friends | Oct 13 20:42 |
| mib_v43oqq | that's part of how Nat got the job | Oct 13 20:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's usually about connections | Oct 13 20:43 |
| mib_v43oqq | well, it seemed the point of your article that I came across was the concentration of power through strangling open source | Oct 13 20:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | copilot is particularly nasty | Oct 13 20:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | for several reasons | Oct 13 20:45 |
| mib_v43oqq | my questions is should we putting this power in the hands of someone is historically abusive to women | Oct 13 20:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | but wait | Oct 13 20:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | we could go into questions like, | Oct 13 20:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | how many chauvinist are running Microsoft? | Oct 13 20:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | the answer is, not few | Oct 13 20:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | inc. Gates himself | Oct 13 20:46 |
| mib_v43oqq | Bill... pedophile | Oct 13 20:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | a fish rots from the head down | Oct 13 20:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | don't know if bill is a pedophilia himself, but he did cheat on the wife and loves being with Epsteina | Oct 13 20:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | *Epstein | Oct 13 20:47 |
| DaemonFC | https://downloads.vivaldi.com/lists/vivaldi/partners-current.txt | Oct 13 20:47 |
| -altlink_22b/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: vivaldi.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://downloads.vivaldi.com/lists/vivaldi/partners-current.txt | Oct 13 20:47 | |
| schestowitz-TR | also employed a pedophile as his personal engineer | Oct 13 20:47 |
| DaemonFC | Vivaldi unblocks their search partner ads by default, but so does Falkon. | Oct 13 20:47 |
| mib_v43oqq | Does the art reflect the artist? | Oct 13 20:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | well, more smoking guns needed | Oct 13 20:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | there might even be investigation, maybe sealed indictment | Oct 13 20:49 |
| mib_v43oqq | https://twitter.com/BetsyDupuis/status/1333466795332734978?s=20 | Oct 13 20:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BetsyDupuis: I dated @hackpad (acquired by @dropbox 2015) co-founder Alex Graveley @orph in 2019. Things started off well, but… https://t.co/jbPauVAufr | Oct 13 20:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BetsyDupuis: I dated @hackpad (acquired by @dropbox 2015) co-founder Alex Graveley @orph in 2019. Things started off well, but… https://t.co/jbPauVAufr | Oct 13 20:49 | |
| psydruid | what is the real deal with Falkon? | Oct 13 20:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | many friends move away from him | Oct 13 20:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | suggests they know something and proactively dissociate | Oct 13 20:50 |
| mib_v43oqq | "I don't want to get involved" | Oct 13 20:51 |
| mib_v43oqq | It's what I've heard many time in regards to the situation with Graveley | Oct 13 20:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | poor excuse | Oct 13 20:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | what did miguel say? | Oct 13 20:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | "above my pay grade"? | Oct 13 20:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's what he told others | Oct 13 20:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | when he was in novell | Oct 13 20:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | military terminopoly | Oct 13 20:52 |
| mib_v43oqq | Nat and Alex were both assholes back in the day that drank too much | Oct 13 20:52 |
| mib_v43oqq | he said Nat "ruined his life" | Oct 13 20:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | miguel said that???? | Oct 13 20:52 |
| mib_v43oqq | yes lol | Oct 13 20:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | haha | Oct 13 20:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | is he still with his brazilian wife? | Oct 13 20:52 |
| mib_v43oqq | yeah, we talked about that because it came up that Graveley lived in Brazil | Oct 13 20:53 |
| mib_v43oqq | Also mentioned a portuguese language film that I was disturbed by Alex's obsession with | Oct 13 20:54 |
| mib_v43oqq | Talk to Her - about a male nurse raping a woman in a coma, but it's a romance | Oct 13 20:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | gosh | Oct 13 20:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | seems like we have a whols series | Oct 13 20:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | not an article | Oct 13 20:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | mib_v43oqq: Jimmy Savile dd that | Oct 13 20:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | but to kids | Oct 13 20:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | in a hospital | Oct 13 20:56 |
| mib_v43oqq | It's relevant b/c Alex kept asking me to get blackout drunk to fulfill a kink | Oct 13 20:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | wow | Oct 13 20:58 |
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| mib_v43oqq | Alex is a really bad dude. Nat seems to have been good at maintaining a wholesome persona publicly | Oct 13 20:59 |
| mib_v43oqq | I'm trying to make people aware, but because i never worked at Github, journalists think it's a non-issue | Oct 13 21:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | there are journalists still? | Oct 13 21:00 |
| mib_v43oqq | good question lol | Oct 13 21:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | many are cynical about what the occupation became | Oct 13 21:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | even the other day my dad told me | Oct 13 21:01 |
| mib_v43oqq | they seem to be working on all the workers rights | Oct 13 21:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | a friend of his, retired journalist, was enraged about journalism becoming just corporate PR 15 years ago | Oct 13 21:01 |
| mib_v43oqq | that's true. all the noise this week could just be giants firing shots at each other | Oct 13 21:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | which publishers did you try? | Oct 13 21:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | Remember Microsoft pays many for "advertising" | Oct 13 21:04 |
| mib_v43oqq | vox, bloomberg, buzzfeed | Oct 13 21:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | the first two are in Microsoft's pocket | Oct 13 21:06 |
| mib_v43oqq | part of the issue is graveley's disinformation campaign against me has taken root | Oct 13 21:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | not sure about the third | Oct 13 21:06 |
| mib_v43oqq | vox did some reporting on the Github Nazi incident | Oct 13 21:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | they usually believe the rich person | Oct 13 21:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | we examine the evidence | Oct 13 21:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | they also fer lawsuits (media) | Oct 13 21:07 |
| mib_v43oqq | I guess Nat true the female HR head under the bus and made himself the hero | Oct 13 21:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | mib_v43oqq: but B-I broke the story | Oct 13 21:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | on the nazi firing incident | Oct 13 21:07 |
| mib_v43oqq | yeah, I think you're right. having a hard time keeping it straight | Oct 13 21:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | we work with some Microsoft whistleblowers | Oct 13 21:08 |
| mib_v43oqq | NYT, but after bad art friend, they don't look good | Oct 13 21:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | they trust us | Oct 13 21:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | because we don't self-censor | Oct 13 21:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | NYTimes is a mixed bag | Oct 13 21:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | they're harder to bribe | Oct 13 21:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | you can only keep them silent some of the time, not all the time | Oct 13 21:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | Gates bribed The Verge to fire a reporter who worked with us | Oct 13 21:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | on a stor exposing Gates Foundation abuses like 8 years ago | Oct 13 21:09 |
| mib_v43oqq | jesus | Oct 13 21:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | he eventually went too far | Oct 13 21:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | now a lot more people know the RealBill | Oct 13 21:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | Real Deal | Oct 13 21:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | Bill also bribed by boss | Oct 13 21:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | it didn't work | Oct 13 21:10 |
| mib_v43oqq | well, sounds like I finally have some answers | Oct 13 21:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | it happened just after I had started my series about the arrest at his home | Oct 13 21:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | read up on what Weinstein | Oct 13 21:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | did to media | Oct 13 21:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | and how he suppressed the story for many years | Oct 13 21:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | similar tactics | Oct 13 21:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | woman-shaming | Oct 13 21:11 |
| mib_v43oqq | I used to work in disinfo research | Oct 13 21:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | spying on them | Oct 13 21:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | spiking stories etc. | Oct 13 21:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | they had to group in large numbers to break the media silence | Oct 13 21:11 |
| mib_v43oqq | I'm aware of a lot of the mechanics | Oct 13 21:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | there are agencies for this | Oct 13 21:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | 'consultant' | Oct 13 21:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | 'crisis management' | Oct 13 21:11 |
| mib_v43oqq | yeah... there's lots of women that don't want to talk about what Alex did to them | Oct 13 21:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | Weinstein hired spies | Oct 13 21:12 |
| mib_v43oqq | TallPoppy | Oct 13 21:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | now more people know about Gamma Group, NSO Group ste. | Oct 13 21:12 |
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| mib_v43oqq | TallPoppy is trying to turn that into a service | Oct 13 21:12 |
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| schestowitz-TR | do you have written correspondence with those publishers? | Oct 13 21:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | we should do a part or two about their role in covering up for the powerful interests | Oct 13 21:13 |
| mib_v43oqq | yes | Oct 13 21:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | good | Oct 13 21:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | Chelsea Manning tried WashPo (now Bezos) and NYTimes | Oct 13 21:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | they were not interested in war crimes | Oct 13 21:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | so Chelsea (Brad back then) went to Wikileaks | Oct 13 21:14 |
| mib_v43oqq | I don't think Dropbox has dirty hands. They just wanted his patents and fired him for abuse | Oct 13 21:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | and now people know this and remember this | Oct 13 21:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | Dropbox had or still has Condy Rice on the Board | Oct 13 21:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's not a lovey-dovey company | Oct 13 21:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | they also work for the NSA as informant | Oct 13 21:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | with direct data access to NSA | Oct 13 21:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | based on PRISM leaks (2013) | Oct 13 21:15 |
| mib_v43oqq | something something elasticsearch | Oct 13 21:15 |
| mib_v43oqq | do you have some more secure form of communication | Oct 13 21:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes | Oct 13 21:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | PGP is one | Oct 13 21:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | or we can use mumble | Oct 13 21:16 |
| mib_v43oqq | bear in mind my technical skills are JS, so something like signal would be helpful | Oct 13 21:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | or other encrypted things, end-to-end | Oct 13 21:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | Signal is not so secure | Oct 13 21:16 |
| mib_v43oqq | really? damn | Oct 13 21:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | and it requires "mobile" "phone", which I don't have | Oct 13 21:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | hold on to comms you had with publishers that are big | Oct 13 21:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | they need to be named for "believing powerful men" | Oct 13 21:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | I would have recommended protonmail, but | Oct 13 21:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | they recently turned in a climate activists to French authorities | Oct 13 21:18 |
| mib_v43oqq | lets see if I can do mumble | Oct 13 21:18 |
| mib_v43oqq | I have to google my way through PGP | Oct 13 21:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | you might be spied on by Private Investigators | Oct 13 21:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | or the people you named | Oct 13 21:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | if you say something not encrypted, the assumption should be, "they may know" | Oct 13 21:19 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▄▅▅▆▅▅▄▃▅▆▆▄▆▁▂▄▅▅▆▆▇▄▆▅▆▆▆▅▄▃▆▅▃▄▅▁ avg(k/sec) 26.43 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▂▁▂▆▂▂▂▁▂▂▁▂█▂▂▂▂▂▁▂▂▂▂▃▁▂▁▂▂▁▂▁ avg(k/sec) 19.95▕ swarm size (avg): 260.77 ⟲ | Oct 13 21:19 |
| mib_v43oqq | I haven't said anything I haven't said on twitter | Oct 13 21:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | mib_v43oqq: side note | Oct 13 21:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | (of elevance) | Oct 13 21:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | real encryption tools are hard to find | Oct 13 21:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's not an accident | Oct 13 21:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's because those who create such tools get targeted a lot | Oct 13 21:20 |
| mib_v43oqq | apple won't let me install mumble | Oct 13 21:20 |
| mib_v43oqq | is it on homebrew? | Oct 13 21:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | apropos | Oct 13 21:21 |
| schestowitz | techrights.org/2020/08/14/control-but-no-accountability/ | Oct 13 21:21 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/08/14/control-but-no-accountability/ | Oct 13 21:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | High-Level Criminals Associate Privacy With Crime Because They Want Privacy Only for Themselves (Control But No Accountability) | Techrights | Oct 13 21:21 | |
| schestowitz-TR | mumble might work on OS X | Oct 13 21:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | don't know if they do "mobile" | Oct 13 21:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's also a voice thing | Oct 13 21:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | voice can be faster to work with in some contexts | Oct 13 21:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | just make sure you keep all notes | Oct 13 21:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | I will do too | Oct 13 21:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | I later meticulously go through everything, for x2 or x3 longer than they take to write | Oct 13 21:22 |
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| mib_v43oqq | ok, I think it's installed | Oct 13 21:24 |
| mib_v43oqq | feel like I'm using 1999 internet right now lol | Oct 13 21:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | newer is not always better | Oct 13 21:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | tell me if it runs OK | Oct 13 21:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | I can send you address of locally-hosted server, with e2e encryption | Oct 13 21:25 |
| mib_v43oqq | sure lets do that | Oct 13 21:25 |
| mib_v43oqq | I have it installed. | Oct 13 21:27 |
| mib_v43oqq | there's like a globe with a server list | Oct 13 21:27 |
| mib_v43oqq | I see "add new" | Oct 13 21:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes | Oct 13 21:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | I sent you that | Oct 13 21:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's not publicly advertise | Oct 13 21:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | for obvious reasons | Oct 13 21:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | *advertised | Oct 13 21:28 |
| mib_v43oqq | email? | Oct 13 21:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | parsdon? | Oct 13 21:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | pardon? | Oct 13 21:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | oh, email | Oct 13 21:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | I share my email, but email is not secure | Oct 13 21:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's one of the least secure things in the planet | Oct 13 21:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | all mail relays see the contents | Oct 13 21:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | and some sell the data for financial gain | Oct 13 21:29 |
| mib_v43oqq | yeah... Jeff Lindsay explained that to me once | Oct 13 21:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | ha, youi know him | Oct 13 21:33 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, I'm writing again. | Oct 13 22:15 |
| DaemonFC | Criticizing GNOME and Debian for bundling censorship software. | Oct 13 22:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: good | Oct 13 22:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | I mean, the writing | Oct 13 22:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | GNOME is the vision of IBM et al | Oct 13 22:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | not the original hackers who made the "G" in GNOME | Oct 13 22:18 |
| DaemonFC | https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/10/13/gnome-and-debian-infringe-human-rights-by-shipping-parental-control-software-internally-called-malcontent/ | Oct 13 22:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | GNOME (and Debian) infringe human rights by shipping Parental Control software (internally called “Malcontent”). – BaronHK's Rants | Oct 13 22:22 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, ^ | Oct 13 22:22 |
| DaemonFC | Thoughts? | Oct 13 22:22 |
| DaemonFC | The funny thing was they couldn't stop you from booting into DOS to disable the parental control software back then. | Oct 13 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | Even with Windows Me, you could make an emergency boot floppy, which contained DOS, and the BIOS was still hard coded to try to boot from A drive first. | Oct 13 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | That's why it briefly went "onk" and then proceeded to load the OS from the hard disk if nothing was in the floppy drive. | Oct 13 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | 9 posts today? | Oct 13 22:27 |
| DaemonFC | I need to lay off the caffeine. | Oct 13 22:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | :-) | Oct 13 22:27 |
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| DaemonFC | I'm writing about Vivaldi now. | Oct 13 22:34 |
| DaemonFC | It's quite addictive, but so are cigarettes. | Oct 13 22:35 |
| DaemonFC | I tell myself at least it isn't Chrome. | Oct 13 22:35 |
| DaemonFC | I can't stand Chrome for lots of reasons. | Oct 13 22:35 |
| DaemonFC | It isn't a very good browser. | Oct 13 22:35 |
| DaemonFC | It's made for complete dumbasses by an advertising company. | Oct 13 22:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, exactly | Oct 13 22:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | more like spyTech | Oct 13 22:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | 'Ad'tech | Oct 13 22:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | we mine minds | Oct 13 22:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | then manipulate them | Oct 13 22:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | not the same as billboards | Oct 13 22:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: can you proofread for us too? | Oct 13 22:42 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, I'm doing backstory. | Oct 13 22:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | ok | Oct 13 22:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | we are working on a Microsot story | Oct 13 22:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | some clues in the scrollback in IRC | Oct 13 22:43 |
| DaemonFC | On how Apple commandeered Webkit, and they and Google polluted and bloated KHTML to 200 times its original size, and now that's what you need to run the Web today. | Oct 13 22:43 |
| DaemonFC | It's a disaster driven by hostile entities. | Oct 13 22:44 |
| DaemonFC | <schestowitz-TR> DaemonFC: can you proofread for us too? | Oct 13 22:44 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah. | Oct 13 22:44 |
| DaemonFC | No rush. | Oct 13 22:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | it'll be a long series | Oct 13 22:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | not the EPO one | Oct 13 22:45 |
| DaemonFC | I don't trust von Tetzchner either. | Oct 13 22:45 |
| DaemonFC | But they've added back all of the Opera features I missed. | Oct 13 22:45 |
| DaemonFC | Except maybe the bittorrent client. | Oct 13 22:45 |
| DaemonFC | I liked Opera Unite too. | Oct 13 22:46 |
| DaemonFC | You could run a server and a web site from your Opera browser at one point. It made it extremely easy. | Oct 13 22:46 |
| DaemonFC | Do you reckon he's growing Vivaldi with the intent on another takeover. | Oct 13 22:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: can you look now? | Oct 13 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah | Oct 13 22:50 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2021/10/13/general-bock-switzerland/ | Oct 13 22:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EPO’s Overseer/Overseen Collusion — Part XI: “General Bock” – Battistelli’s Swiss Apprentice? | Techrights | Oct 13 22:51 | |
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| DaemonFC | "The reaction in Switzerland was predominantly negative." | Oct 13 22:55 |
| DaemonFC | LOL | Oct 13 22:56 |
| DaemonFC | Customs Kommando! | Oct 13 22:56 |
| DaemonFC | "noted that not even Putin’s special forces would put themselves on public display in such an ostentatious manner." | Oct 13 22:57 |
| DaemonFC | :/ | Oct 13 22:57 |
| psydruid | does old Opera still work on the current web? | Oct 13 22:57 |
| DaemonFC | Kind of. | Oct 13 22:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | "moderm" "web" | Oct 13 22:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | programs as 'pages' | Oct 13 22:57 |
| psydruid | I don't know if it would be better and faster than Netsurf | Oct 13 22:57 |
| DaemonFC | You need the last build that they kicked over the fence, for Windows only. Even though they could have trivially compiled it for others. | Oct 13 22:57 |
| XRevan86 | https://meduza.io/en/news/2021/10/13/belarus-makes-subscribing-to-extremist-telegram-channel-a-criminal-offense | Oct 13 22:58 |
| -altlink_22b/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: meduza.io | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://meduza.io/en/news/2021/10/13/belarus-makes-subscribing-to-extremist-telegram-channel-a-criminal-offense | Oct 13 22:58 | |
| DaemonFC | All they did was bump it to be "modern enough" to connect to secure websites and fix a few CVEs. | Oct 13 22:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLE | Oct 13 22:58 | |
| psydruid | but it was much faster than other browsers in the early 2000s | Oct 13 22:58 |
| DaemonFC | So they could have compiled it, but they specifically said they didn't want Linux and Mac versions because it was intended for people stuck on Windows XP. | Oct 13 22:58 |
| DaemonFC | They wanted to compel everyone else to use the Chromium shit. | Oct 13 22:59 |
| DaemonFC | It may work in Wine. | Oct 13 22:59 |
| DaemonFC | "These doubts arose because Switzerland is a decentralized federation with a highly devolved system of government in which the cantons are sovereign to the extent that their sovereignty is not limited by federal law. The competence of the federal government is restricted to a limited number of areas." | Oct 13 23:00 |
| DaemonFC | So it would be more correct to say it is a confederate system. | Oct 13 23:01 |
| DaemonFC | "long-established constitutional traditions" | Oct 13 23:02 |
| DaemonFC | It's just a goddamned piece of paper. -Bush (W), allegedly | Oct 13 23:02 |
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| DaemonFC | "his time deputy head" | Oct 13 23:20 |
| DaemonFC | as deputy head | Oct 13 23:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | ahw | Oct 13 23:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | well spooted! | Oct 13 23:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | spotted even | Oct 13 23:20 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, I can say that I think a lot of the rot going on in the US is the states and the federal government playing tug of war. | Oct 13 23:23 |
| DaemonFC | With no clear boundaries over who gets to do what. | Oct 13 23:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's "all up in the air" | Oct 13 23:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | Look at the Trump 4-year term | Oct 13 23:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | violation after violation | Oct 13 23:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | nobody punished | Oct 13 23:23 |
| DaemonFC | And about half the population expecting some central government 1,000-2,000 miles away to fix all of their problems, top down. | Oct 13 23:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | except low-level people | Oct 13 23:23 |
| DaemonFC | When almost nobody in Congress has ever had to do a real job before. | Oct 13 23:24 |
| DaemonFC | They just sit around all day and tell you what you'll endure this year so a few billionaires can grow fatter. | Oct 13 23:24 |
| DaemonFC | Better if it didn't exist at all, almost. | Oct 13 23:24 |
| DaemonFC | Should be curtailed by an Article V Convention. | Oct 13 23:25 |
| DaemonFC | It's not even clear if we should have had one already. | Oct 13 23:25 |
| DaemonFC | The Constitution doesn't specify if all of the requests have to be about the same topic or if states can withdraw them. | Oct 13 23:25 |
| DaemonFC | Since there are more red states than blue states, the blue states decided that the only way they were going to keep controlling and manipulating everyone would be to yank their requests, most of which dated back decades or a century or two. | Oct 13 23:26 |
| DaemonFC | <schestowitz-TR> violation after violation | Oct 13 23:27 |
| DaemonFC | <schestowitz-TR> nobody punished | Oct 13 23:27 |
| DaemonFC | We're just lucky that it ended when it did. | Oct 13 23:27 |
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| DaemonFC | When he asked the Pentagon to overthrow the election and they said, no get your shit out by noon or we'll assist you. | Oct 13 23:27 |
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| psydruid | https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-06-28/boeing-s-737-max-software-outsourced-to-9-an-hour-engineers | Oct 13 23:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bloomberg - Are you a robot? | Oct 13 23:28 | |
| DaemonFC | It's pretty bad when the president is leaning on the DoJ to "just say the election is corrupt and let me 'take care of' the rest. And by take care of, that means pretext to using the military to stay whether he's legally allowed or not. | Oct 13 23:28 |
| psydruid | I never knew that the work was outsourced to India | Oct 13 23:29 |
| psydruid | and not to the best coders there apparently | Oct 13 23:29 |
| DaemonFC | And you're biting your nails wondering if we're even going to have the president we voted for or not because this one won't leave unless other people refuse to go along with it. The people who get trillion dollar budgetsevery year, tanks, bombs, planes, guns, and nukes. | Oct 13 23:29 |
| DaemonFC | Meanwhile, the government "CARES" about you, because of the Coronavirus. | Oct 13 23:30 |
| DaemonFC | It "CARES". It's never cared before. It still lets people go hungry, homeless, and die of AIDS. What's so different about a super cold? | Oct 13 23:30 |
| DaemonFC | Most of the rich folks I know went to their bug out resort third home and then threw unmasked dinner parties with little chips and dips that cost more than a year's income for many of us, and then gave each other the virus anyway, in Florida. | Oct 13 23:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | psydruid: they have good coders | Oct 13 23:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | but they leave india | Oct 13 23:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | and code for better salaries | Oct 13 23:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | ask MinceR abouut Hungary | Oct 13 23:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | same problem | Oct 13 23:40 |
| psydruid | schestowitz-TR, I know, I worked with some | Oct 13 23:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | with so much choice, companies 'import' only the best | Oct 13 23:40 |
| MinceR | suits generally don't care about good coders | Oct 13 23:42 |
| MinceR | they care about having something hacked together cheaply and having someone else take responsibility for it being crap | Oct 13 23:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | +! | Oct 13 23:42 |
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