IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Tuesday, March 23, 2021

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Microsoft killed Skype

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it used to have a lot of the pie

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not anymore

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so they try to swallow more of that stuff to spy on

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techrights-ipfs

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Mar 23 07:39

schestowitz

>> I wonder when the mediagoblin site will have a video of the talk. With

Mar 23 07:44

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>> over 30,000 views on this blog post there's lack of bw capacity for this

Mar 23 07:44

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>> copy of the video. So we're trying to find workarounds at the moment.>> Internet archive, maybe?

Mar 23 07:44

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> IIRC the FSF announcement mentioned a goal to make the videos available

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> within one week. We'll see.

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Some other sites have made copies by now (It's FOSS, LWN links to an audio), so by the time the official video is out not many people will turn to it.

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My wife watches the RMS talk; my post about this got nearly 100,000 viewers (highest since I reported in Red Hat layoffs last summer).

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techrights-ipfs

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The #EuropeanCommission ’s Expert Group Report on SEP Licensing and Valuation: What Did We Achieve? What Did We Miss? https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3783710 an anti-competitive scam/ploy http://techrights.org/2020/07/10/frand-sep-scam/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-papers.ssrn.com | The European Commission’s Expert Group Report on SEP Licensing and Valuation: What Did We Achieve? What Did We Miss? by Damien Geradin :: SSRN

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | European FRAND (Related to SEP) Proponent and Famed Programmer Comes to Realise That It’s Actually a “Scam” | Techrights

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"This Article seeks to answer a question that has become increasingly more important as commerce moves from the tangible to the intangible - to what extent may a business use a contract to control the use of a fully paid product?" https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3779006

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-papers.ssrn.com | Revisiting the License v. Sale Conundrum by Nancy S. Kim :: SSRN

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Rich Countries Signed Away a Chance to Vaccinate the World https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/21/world/vaccine-patents-us-eu.html #twitter BANS people for mentioning this http://techrights.org/2021/02/05/twitter-censorship-bingo/

Mar 23 09:08

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Rich Countries Signed Away a Chance to Vaccinate the World - The New York Times

Mar 23 09:08

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Twitter Has Just Suspended the President of FFII for Naming Bill Gates Patent Profiteering and Factual Information About Twitter Censorship (Updated) | Techrights

Mar 23 09:08

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#TuxedoPulse 15 Laptop Review - #AMD -powered 15-inch Linux Ultrabook • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149120 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

Mar 23 09:10

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tuxedo Pulse 15 Laptop Review - AMD-powered 15-inch Linux Ultrabook | Tux Machines

Mar 23 09:10

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What’s new in GVfs for #GNOME 40? • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149121 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | What’s new in GVfs for GNOME 40? | Tux Machines

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#Android Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149122 •●• #Google #Linux #TuxMachines

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines

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#Techrights Bulletin for Monday, March 22, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext

Mar 23 09:12

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives

Mar 23 09:12

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#Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index

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#ZDNet , #TheVerge and #ArsTechnica perpetuate defamatory characterisations of what happened 18 months ago • 𝗧𝗲𝗰𝗵𝗿𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁𝘀 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/03/23/still-libeling-rms/ •●• #Techrights gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/23/still-libeling-rms/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft-Connected (and Funded) Sites Still Distort What Happened and What Richard Stallman Actually Said | Techrights

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Best #FreeSW Intrusion Prevention for SSH • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149123 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

Mar 23 09:14

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Best Free and Open Source Intrusion Prevention for SSH | Tux Machines

Mar 23 09:14

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#IRC Proceedings: Monday, March 22, 2021 • 𝗧𝗲𝗰𝗵𝗿𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁𝘀 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/03/23/irc-log-220321/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/23/irc-log-220321/

Mar 23 09:16

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Monday, March 22, 2021 | Techrights

Mar 23 09:16

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Dystopian https://ircz.de/p/14012534

Mar 23 09:17

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (26050)

Mar 23 09:17

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The #linuxfoundation is openwashing, greenwashing and whitewashing abusive #monopolies that make and profit from internment camps while sending code to #microsoft #proprietarySoftware trap, so you know they are irrelevant to #freesw and the fact #zdnet helps them says a lot about ZDNet

Mar 23 09:18

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ZDNet is happy to relay lies and outright defamation to defend human rights abusers. They're rapidly running out of supporters and later they wonder why the parent company (CBS) goes bust, unlike the FSF.

Mar 23 09:19

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The Verge is wrong. RMS did not make "widely criticized statements about convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein" (he had called him "rapist" for months, even beforehand) and actually commented on something else; media then distorted what he actually said

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#Android Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149118 •●• #Google #Linux #TuxMachines

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines

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#Librem 14 Security Features • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149119 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Librem 14 Security Features | Tux Machines

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Microsoft-Connected (and Funded) Sites Still Distort What Happened and What Richard Stallman Actually Said http://techrights.org/2021/03/23/still-libeling-rms/

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Today marks one year since #uk lock-downs began http://schestowitz.com/royrianne/gallery/index.php/Working-From-Home-Lock-Down

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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Working From Home (Lock-Down)

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#Apple Sued for Infringement of Circuit-Related #Patents https://finance.yahoo.com/news/apple-ordered-pay-308-5-164546867.html https://lawstreetmedia.com/tech/intellectual-property/apple-sued-for-infringement-of-circuit-related-patents/

Mar 23 09:25

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-finance.yahoo.com | Apple Ordered To Pay $308.5 Million In Patent Infringement Case

Mar 23 09:25

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lawstreetmedia.com | Apple Sued for Infringement of Circuit-Related Patents - Intellectual Property

Mar 23 09:25

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Doing a #microsoft https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/03/huawei-plans-to-start-charging-patent-fees-to-samsung-apple-for-each-phone-sold/ see http://techrights.org/2019/03/12/microsoft-foxconn/

Mar 23 09:26

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Huawei plans to start charging patent fees to Samsung, Apple for each phone sold | Ars Technica

Mar 23 09:26

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft is Complaining About Android and Chrome OS (GNU/Linux) Vendor Not Paying for Microsoft Patents (Updated) | Techrights

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Vapourware and hype firm in "HEY HI" clothing https://venturebeat.com/2021/03/16/ai-patent-intelligence-platform-patsnap-secures-300m/ #patents #monopolies

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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AI patent intelligence platform PatSnap secures $300M | VentureBeat

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● NEWS ● #DataSwamp ☞ Securely share a secret using Shamir's secret sharing https://dataswamp.org/~solene/2021-03-21-ssss.html

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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dataswamp.org | Solene's percent % : Securely share a secret using Shamir's secret sharing

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● NEWS ● #Bloomberg #ProprietarySoftware ☞ #Microsoft in Talks to Buy Discord for More Than $10 Billion https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-03-23/microsoft-said-to-be-in-talks-to-buy-discord-for-more-than-10b

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft Said to Discuss Discord Bid for Over $10 Billion - Bloomberg

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● NEWS ● #IndiaTimes #ProprietarySoftware ☞#Microsoft in talks to acquire #Discord for more than $10 billion: Report https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/corporate-news/microsoft-in-talks-to-acquire-discord-for-more-than-10-billion-report/81643079

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com | Microsoft in talks to acquire Discord for more than $10 billion: Report, IT News, ET CIO

MinceR: https://www.theverge.com/2021/3/22/22344397/apple-macbook-butterfly-keyboard-switches-defective-class-action-lawsuit-certified

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● NEWS ● #ITWire #ProprietarySoftware ☞ #Microsoft 's #RDP attack vector of choice for ransomware groups in 2020 https://itwire.com/security/microsoft-s-rdp-attack-vector-of-choice-for-ransomware-groups-in-2020.html

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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iTWire - Microsoft's RDP attack vector of choice for ransomware groups in 2020

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● NEWS ● #ITWire #ProprietarySoftware ☞ Many systems still offline at Eastern Health after network attack https://itwire.com/security/many-systems-still-offline-at-eastern-health-after-network-attack.html

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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iTWire - Many systems still offline at Eastern Health after network attack

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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Judge certifies class action lawsuit over Apple’s MacBook butterfly keyboards - The Verge

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● NEWS ● #HollywoodReporter #Privacy #Surveillance ☞ NBCU Pitches Ad Tech Prowess to Marketers: "The Future Is Clearly Streaming" https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/nbcu-pitches-ad-tech-prowess-to-marketers-the-future-is-clearly-streaming

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.hollywoodreporter.com | NBCU Pitches Ad Tech Prowess to Marketers: "The Future Is Clearly Streaming" | Hollywood Reporter

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● NEWS ● #IndiaTimes #Privacy #Surveillance ☞ #Facebook fails in bid to derail $15 billion privacy suit https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/social-media/facebook-fails-in-bid-to-derail-15-billion-privacy-suit/81643072

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com | Facebook fails in bid to derail $15 billion privacy suit, IT News, ET CIO

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● NEWS ● #IndiaTimes #Privacy #Surveillance ☞ Govt proposes alpha-numeric hash to track #WhatsApp chat https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/social-media/govt-proposes-alpha-numeric-hash-to-track-whatsapp-chat/81643144

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com | WhatsApp chat: Govt proposes alpha-numeric hash to track WhatsApp chat, IT News, ET CIO

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● NEWS ● #TheHill #Privacy #Surveillance ☞ Supreme Court rejects #Facebook bid to scale back $15B tracking lawsuit https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/544335-supreme-court-rejects-facebook-bid-scale-back-15b-tracking-lawsuit

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Supreme Court rejects Facebook bid to scale back $15B tracking lawsuit | TheHill

#hookah #detroit https://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2021-03-21/police-man-stabs-8-during-fight-at-detroit-hookah-bar https://edition.cnn.com/2021/03/21/us/detroit-hookah-stabbing/index.html https://www.arabamericannews.com/2021/03/21/details-emerge-on-stabbing-incident-at-hookah-lounge-in-detroit/

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● NEWS ● #NBC ☞ Evidence in Capitol [insurrection] 'trending towards' sedition charges, prosecutor says https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/evidence-capitol-riot-trending-towards-sedition-charges-prosecutor-says-n1261709

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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nbcnews.com | Evidence in Capitol riot 'trending towards' sedition charges, prosecutor says

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● NEWS ● #RTL ☞ Five years after attacks, Belgium remembers its dead https://today.rtl.lu/news/world/a/1693015.html

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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-today.rtl.lu | RTL Today - National day of commemoration: Five years after attacks, Belgium remembers its dead

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● NEWS ● #Express #Censorship ☞ 'Free speech is at risk' Liam Fox in chilling warning at 'intolerance of woke culture' https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1412628/Woke-culture-freedom-of-speech-laim-fox

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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-'Free speech is at risk' Liam Fox warns against 'intolerance of woke culture' | Politics | News | Express.co.uk

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● NEWS ● #BBC ☞ #WarnerMusic teams up with #Tencent to crack #China https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56479710 another #DRM collusion

Mar 23 10:16

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | Warner Music teams up with Tencent to crack China - BBC News

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● NEWS ● #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights ☞ #Mangadex Has Been Hacked, Users Should Assume Data Has Been Breached https://torrentfreak.com/mangadex-has-been-hacked-users-should-assume-data-has-been-breached-210322/

Mar 23 10:23

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mangadex Has Been Hacked, Users Should Assume Data Has Been Breached * TorrentFreak

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● NEWS ● #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights ☞ #UK Police Warn Students Not to Use #SciHub But Publishers 'Promote' It https://torrentfreak.com/uk-police-warn-students-not-to-use-sci-hub-publishers-promote-it-210322/

Mar 23 10:24

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-UK Police Warn Students Not to Use Sci-Hub But Publishers 'Promote' It * TorrentFreak

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Open Source is NOT a community but a corporations-led ploy of #openwashing #monopolies https://twitter.com/DhruvGovil/status/1374155637970542593

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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@DhruvGovil: I'm sure the #Stallman Stans will be overjoyed by the return of their creepy Messiah, but this is a dissapointing m… https://t.co/bWYLlindOY

Mar 23 11:25

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@DhruvGovil: I'm sure the #Stallman Stans will be overjoyed by the return of their creepy Messiah, but this is a dissapointing m… https://t.co/bWYLlindOY

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The media is STILL lying about what he said https://twitter.com/ingo_keck/status/1374287859830681601 see http://techrights.org/2021/03/23/still-libeling-rms/

Mar 23 11:26

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ingo_keck: @retr0virus @Senficon @octopuscitizen @fsf MS first invited him into a pro MS event and he went.… https://t.co/Ja6tSoFHZ1

Mar 23 11:26

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft-Connected (and Funded) Sites Still Distort What Happened and What Richard Stallman Actually Said | Techrights

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RMS article views passed 80k now..

Mar 23 11:28

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● NEWS ● #CommonDreams ☞ Coalition Forms to Challenge 'Predatory' #Surveillance #Advertising by Big Tech https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/03/22/coalition-forms-challenge-predatory-surveillance-advertising-big-tech

Mar 23 11:48

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Coalition Forms to Challenge 'Predatory' Surveillance Advertising by Big Tech | Common Dreams News

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● NEWS ● #PIA ☞ DMV's are making a fortune selling your personal data https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/dmvs-are-making-a-fortune-selling-your-personal-data/

Mar 23 11:49

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.privateinternetaccess.com | DMV's are making a fortune selling your personal data

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● NEWS ● #PIA #socialcontrolmedia #proprietarySoftware ☞ Teen who hacked Twitter accounts of Biden, Obama, Musk, Bezos and more is sentenced to 3 years in prison https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/teen-who-hacked-twitter-accounts-of-biden-obama-musk-bezos-and-more-is-sentenced-to-3-years-in-prison/

Mar 23 11:50

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.privateinternetaccess.com | Teen who hacked Twitter accounts of Biden, Obama, Musk, Bezos and more is sentenced to 3 years in prison

Mar 23 11:50

*schestowitz gives voice to rianne__ taiyu vallor

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● NEWS ● #Techdirt ☞ #Drone Manufacturers Are Amping Up #Surveillance Capabilities In Response To Demand From Government Agencies https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210318/16202646450/drone-manufacturers-are-amping-up-surveillance-capabilities-response-to-demand-government-agencies.shtml

Mar 23 11:51

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Drone Manufacturers Are Amping Up Surveillance Capabilities In Response To Demand From Government Agencies | Techdirt

Mar 23 11:52

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"My problem with Amazon is its brutal labor policies, its tax evasion, its climate wreckage, its monopolistic predation, its union busting, its wage theft." https://mamot.fr/@pluralistic/105922628673154612

Mar 23 11:53

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mamot.fr | Cory Doctorow's linkblog: "My problem with Amazon is its brutal labor polici…" - La Quadrature du Net - Mastodon - Media Fédéré

Mar 23 11:53

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Over-Valued #FossilFuel Assets Creating Trillion-Dollar #Bubble About to Burst https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=21/03/19/2246212 2008 was just a teaser?

Mar 23 11:54

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-soylentnews.org | Over-Valued Fossil Fuel Assets Creating Trillion-Dollar Bubble About to Burst - SoylentNews

Mar 23 11:54

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Gemini Client List gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~sario528/projects/clientlist.gmi Gemini client reviews: gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~sario528/clientreviews.gmi me on Moonlander: http://techrights.org/2021/03/21/review-of-moonlander/

Mar 23 11:56

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | A First Look at the Alpha of Moonlander, a Graphical Gemini Client/Browser | Techrights

Mar 23 11:56

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Myself and others at #techrights nowadays use two browsers in tandem, one for Gemini and one for WWW. Let's see which major Web (WWW) Browser will add built-in support for #geminiProtocol ...

Mar 23 11:57

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#cancelMob #trolls #misogyny https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/liam-fox-urges-politicians-to-defend-public-figures-such-as-jk-rowling-against-bullying-mob-zvbwtw59g #thetimes paywall

Mar 23 11:58

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thetimes.co.uk | Liam Fox urges politicians to defend public figures such as JK Rowling against ‘bullying mob’ | News | The Times

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#socialcontrolmedia = breeding ground for #cancelMob #InternetTrolls http://techrights.org/2020/06/08/twitter-cancel-culture/ another explanation (old): http://hintjens.wikidot.com/blog:114

Mar 23 11:59

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Social Control Media: Where ‘Cancel Culture’ Thrives | Techrights

Mar 23 11:59

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hintjens.wikidot.com | Why I've Quit Twitter - Hintjens.com

Mar 23 11:59

techrights-bot

My "Goodbye Twitter" post (and the WHY) http://techrights.org/2020/06/08/goodbye-twitter/

Mar 23 12:00

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Going Write-Only in Twitter (One Step Away From Deleting Twitter) | Techrights

Mar 23 12:00

techrights-bot

nother example of the large (industrial) scale of sexual discrimination at #Microsoft — a company that tries to advertise itself as diverse or tolerant and stigmatise Free/Open Source software (FOSS) as intolerant and/or not diverse http://techrights.org/2016/10/18/microsoft-gender/

Mar 23 12:01

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The ‘Sarah Sharps’ of Microsoft: Not the Kind of Scandal the Media Cares Enough to Write About | Techrights

Mar 23 12:01

techrights-bot

This #google #internetTroll still pestering me with "did you stop beating up the wife"-type BS questions (military-grade trolling, full-time) http://techrights.org/2021/03/05/google-funded-trolls/

Mar 23 12:02

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Professional Troll Matthew Garrett Spreads Libel, Defamation and Slander About the Free Software Community to Entertain Microsoft and Friends | Techrights

Mar 23 12:02

techrights-bot

RMS told me that the #cancelMob is also pestering him today/yesterday. They won't let go. It's like a full-time job for them. Helping #monopolies muzzle their most effective critics. If there was a Hell, I know who would go to it...

Mar 23 12:03

techrights-bot

"The news is increasingly "the fiction" in a way it didn't seem to be in the past." http://www.advicegoddess.com/archives/2021/03/a-compelling-st.html

Mar 23 12:03

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ http://www.advicegoddess.com/archives/2021/03/a-compelling-st.html )

Mar 23 12:03

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Mar 23 12:04

techrights-bot

#ksa depended too much not on something it made but something beneath the ground. But #aramco is a goner and all that KSA is left with is a 'terroristic' regime that considers non-religion to be a crime and literally cooks journalists. https://qz.com/1987007/saudi-aramco-is-no-longer-the-worlds-most-profitable-company/

Mar 23 12:06

techrights-bot

#twitter is in a freefall https://www.cracked.com/article_29832_4-big-companies-that-shot-themselves-in-the-foot.html

Mar 23 12:07

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Mar 23 12:08

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Anon: #Microsoft troll's rantings turned into an article; Sam should know better than to feed Microsoft staff https://itwire.com/open-source/fsf-patrons-urged-to-quit-after-stallman-returns-to-board.html see http://techrights.org/2021/03/23/still-libeling-rms/

Mar 23 12:08

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Mar 23 12:08

techrights-bot

#fraud #loan #lending #extortion #debt https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/for-profit-college-loan-fraud-1144167/

Mar 23 12:09

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Mar 23 12:09

techrights-bot

"One would have thought AWS would have a smarter system. One would be mistaken." https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/@lightweight/105936638253420049 #aws is NO ALLY of ours: http://techrights.org/2020/06/10/the-bezos-leaning-ploy/

Mar 23 12:11

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mastodon.nzoss.nz | Dave Lane: "For those forced to use AWS for services, and hav…" - Mastodon - NZOSS

Mar 23 12:11

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | AWS is Not GNU/Linux and AWS Certification is a Bezos-Leaning Ploy That Rewards People for Memorising Proprietary Interfaces (Vendor Lock-in) | Techrights

Mar 23 12:11

techrights-bot

#mozilla #thunderbird "used by ~20,000,000 people and growing!" https://mastodon.social/@ryanleesipes/105931775141186177 awesome! Avoid all that 'web'mail hype. Typically #surveillance

Mar 23 12:13

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mastodon.social | Ryan Sipes: "Hey guys, Thunderbird is STILL hiring developers.…" - Mastodon

Mar 23 12:13

techrights-bot

#Mississippi #MAGA #ShitholeCountry https://elekk.xyz/@noelle/105934419271057436

Mar 23 12:14

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-elekk.xyz | Ellie: "This is just openly, unrepentantly evil. "‘All of…" - Elekk: Gameing and Other Delightful Pursuits

Mar 23 12:14

schestowitz

"trolls are out" https://lists.gnupg.org/pipermail/gnupg-users/2021-March/064991.html

Mar 23 12:15

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.gnupg.org | So long, and thanks for all the fish.

Mar 23 12:15

techrights-bot

#gnu developers and projects are now being BLACKMAILED by trolls and mobs looking to damage RMS and the FSF. #blackmail tactics, based on lies. http://techrights.org/2021/03/23/still-libeling-rms/

Mar 23 12:16

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft-Connected (and Funded) Sites Still Distort What Happened and What Richard Stallman Actually Said | Techrights

Mar 23 12:16

techrights-bot

Today I learned some employers gag their staff and prevent them from expressing solidarity with RMS. The #monopolies that literally bomb people have lost patience for their critics. They moreover weaponise the media to mobilise trolls and people who fall for them. http://techrights.org/2021/03/23/still-libeling-rms/

Mar 23 12:18

techrights-bot

"If I forget to switch back from Finnish, I invariably have a few moments of panic, when I suspect I've had a stroke, or have inadvertently drunk a bottle of vodka, when my computer doesn't obey my keyboard." https://toot.liw.fi/@liw/105933379473025816

Mar 23 12:19

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Lars Wirzenius: "I use both the US keyboard layout and the Finnish…" - toot.liw.fi

Mar 23 12:20

schestowitz

https://fedi.absturztau.be/objects/c808832f-ade0-4b77-84c7-1da9ae7006fb

Mar 23 12:20

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fedi.absturztau.be

Mar 23 12:20

techrights-bot

Currently upload a 300MB video to #techrights (it's taking a long time; we also run an #ipfs node from home). We have some explosive #epo stories coming soon to #techrights ... potentially big impact on #eu affairs

Mar 23 12:22

techrights-bot

#Tails 4.17 Anonymous OS Released with Automatic File System Repair During Boot • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149124 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

Mar 23 12:23

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tails 4.17 Anonymous OS Released with Automatic File System Repair During Boot | Tux Machines

Mar 23 12:23

techrights-bot

The corrupt #epo gives #patents to #nokia and #kpn which in turn extort rivals instead of innovating https://www.juve-patent.com/news-and-stories/cases/assia-loses-appeal-against-kpn-and-nokia-over-data-transmission-patent/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Nokia

Mar 23 12:26

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.juve-patent.com | Assia loses appeal against KPN and Nokia over data transmission patent - JUVE Patent

Mar 23 12:27

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Nokia - Techrights

Mar 23 12:27

techrights-bot

"Over the past few weeks, the sales of NFTs (non-fungible tokens) attached to digital artworks and other content, including music albums, unique sports moments clips, and even Twitter CEO’s first tweet (!), has skyrocketed." Lunacy. http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/03/guest-post-copyright-nfts-of-digital.html

Mar 23 12:28

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | [Guest post] Copyright & NFTs of Digital Artworks - The IPKat

Mar 23 12:28

techrights-ipfs

▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▁▅▅▁▅▆▅▆▆▃▃▄▄▂▃▄▅▃▂▁▂▃▁▃▄▂▄▅▁▅▅▁▃▄▅▁ avg(k/sec) 18.01 ▕ IPFS upstream: █▃▁▂█▁▂▂▂▁▂▁▂▁▂▁▂▁▂▁▁▁▁▁▁▂▁▁█▂▃▂▂▃▁▂▁ avg(k/sec) 35.60▕ swarm size (avg): 152.83 ⟲

Mar 23 12:39

superkuh

https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-reaches-out-collect-consumer-broadband-availability-experiences https://consumercomplaints.fcc.gov/hc/en-us/requests/new?ticket_form_id=360001440131

Mar 23 12:42

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Resolving timed out after 10521 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-reaches-out-collect-consumer-broadband-availability-experiences )

Mar 23 12:42

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-consumercomplaints.fcc.gov | Submit a request – FCC Complaints

Mar 23 12:42

techrights-bot

● NEWS ● #DemocracyNow ☞ Viet Thanh Nguyen on Roots of Anti-Asian Hate from U.S. Colonialism to Anti-China Political Rhetoric https://www.democracynow.org/2021/3/22/anti_asian_hate_atlanta_killings #microsoft contributes to it: http://techrights.org/2021/03/03/microsoft-blame-shifting-tactics/

Mar 23 12:51

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.democracynow.org | Viet Thanh Nguyen on Roots of Anti-Asian Hate from U.S. Colonialism to Anti-China Political Rhetoric | Democracy Now!

Mar 23 12:51

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Weaponises (and Further Spreads) Racism to Distract From Its Own Incompetence (and ‘Five Eyes’ Collusion for Back Door Access) | Techrights

Mar 23 12:51

schestowitz

superkuh: "Full Title: FCC Announces New Outreach To Collect Consumer Broadband Availability Experiences"

Mar 23 12:53

schestowitz

finally doing something?

schestowitz

iirc, Ariadne needs to pay for sat connection

schestowitz

as no wired stuff around there

superkuh

I don't know, but I did complain about comcast raising prices unilaterally and adding bandwidth caps unilaterally to a contract I signed 11 years ago. From $60/mo unlimited to $100/mo limited.

Ariadne

yes, cable service ends a couple miles up the road

Ariadne

and no landline phone infrastructure

Mar 23 12:55

Ariadne

was never built out this way

Mar 23 12:55

superkuh

If any other business behaved like an ISP, raising prices, removing service, changing the contract on whim, intercepting unencrypted communications and inserting their own javascript, they'd be criminally charged.

Mar 23 12:55

schestowitz

Ariadne: this harms competitiveness

Mar 23 13:00

schestowitz

connected countries are better off

Mar 23 13:01

schestowitz

iirc, s korea still has the fastest connections and it's a very wealthy nation, even per capita

Mar 23 13:01

schestowitz

superkuh: I had arguments with BT this year... eventually they settled

Mar 23 13:01

schestowitz

this morning I checked and they refunded me

Mar 23 13:02

techrights-bot

<li>

Mar 23 13:03

MinceR

schestowitz: lol

techrights-bot

● NEWS ● #CommonDreams #surveillance #surveillanceCapitalism ☞ #Zoom Paid $0 in Federal Income Taxes on 4,000% Profit Increase During Pandemic: Report https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/03/22/zoom-paid-0-federal-income-taxes-4000-profit-increase-during-pandemic-report

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Zoom Paid $0 in Federal Income Taxes on 4,000% Profit Increase During Pandemic: Report | Common Dreams News

schestowitz

MinceR: which part?

schestowitz

IIRC, DT has lots of power in dideathland

Mar 23 13:05

schestowitz

*fideath

Mar 23 13:05

schestowitz

and in Poland too

Mar 23 13:05

schestowitz

‘This Is Tax Evasion’: Richest 1% of US Households Don’t Report 21% of Their Income, Analysis Finds https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/03/22/tax-evasion-richest-1-us-households-dont-report-21-their-income-analysis-finds

Mar 23 13:07

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | 'This Is Tax Evasion': Richest 1% of US Households Don't Report 21% of Their Income, Analysis Finds | Common Dreams News

Mar 23 13:07

MinceR

schestowitz: crApple getting burned for knowingly selling a shitty keyboard

Mar 23 13:07

schestowitz

yeah, late response

Mar 23 13:08

schestowitz

[09:42] <techrights-bot> #apple got sued because the keyboard has more than one button on it, which is confusing the "dumb" users... https://www.theverge.com/2021/3/22/22344397/apple-macbook-butterfly-keyboard-switches-defective-class-action-lawsuit-certified

Mar 23 13:08

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Judge certifies class action lawsuit over Apple’s MacBook butterfly keyboards - The Verge

Mar 23 13:08

techrights-bot

#surveilance for corporate control disguised as "safty" https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/03/22/green-passes-and-dark-inequalities-the-push-for-covid-immunity-passports/ promoted by the frauds at #linuxfoundation http://techrights.org/2021/02/09/no-shame-left/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Green Passes and Dark Inequalities: the Push for COVID Immunity Passports - CounterPunch.org

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Foundation of Shame | Techrights

techrights-bot

● NEWS ● #EFF #Privacy #Surveillance ☞ Video Hearing Tuesday: EFF Tells #California Lawmakers to Crack Down on License Plate Data Collection https://www.eff.org/press/releases/video-hearing-tuesday-eff-tells-california-lawmakers-crack-down-license-plate-data

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | Video Hearing Tuesday: EFF Tells California Lawmakers to Crack Down on License Plate Data Collection | Electronic Frontier Foundation

https://ircz.de/p/14022026

MinceR

Mar 23 13:18

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (3201)

Mar 23 13:18

techrights-bot

#NightfallHacker goes free for Linux on the Snap store | GamingOnLinux ⇨ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/03/nightfall-hacker-goes-free-for-linux-on-the-snap-store •●• #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games

Mar 23 13:23

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Nightfall Hacker goes free for Linux on the Snap store | GamingOnLinux

Mar 23 13:23

techrights-bot

"Always nice to see more unique strategy games land on #GNU #Linux too." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/03/political-strategy-game-rogue-state-revolution-is-out-n

Mar 23 13:24

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Political strategy game Rogue State Revolution is out now | GamingOnLinux

Mar 23 13:24

techrights-bot

"Now that the Steam Link app is out for Linux proper too, it makes it even better." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/03/steam-remote-play-together-invite-anyone-is-out-of-beta-new-steam-client-up

Mar 23 13:26

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Steam Remote Play Together - Invite Anyone is out of Beta, new Steam Client update up | GamingOnLinux

Mar 23 13:26

techrights-bot

"You can play on Stadia.com on Linux with a Chrome-based browser." #google cementing its #internet #monopoly with #gnu #linux at the back end (Stadia). Not good... https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/03/get-a-free-stadia-premiere-edition-with-resident-evil-village-resident-evil-7-free-on-pro

Mar 23 13:28

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Get a free Stadia Premiere Edition with Resident Evil Village, Resident Evil 7 free on Pro | GamingOnLinux

Mar 23 13:28

techrights-bot

Saying #gnu #linux "wins" by making big concessions (e.g. #drm and #surveillance etc.) for "market share" is like claiming slaves have all been freed and slavery is "history" because chains were removed and they now live in ghettos, shot at by unaccountable cops

Mar 23 13:30

techrights-bot

#IBM is "MASTER" and you are their "SLAVE" http://techrights.org/2020/09/29/banning-the-word-master/

Mar 23 13:31

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM Fought for ‘Master Race’ and Now It’s Banning the Word ‘Master’ | Techrights

Mar 23 13:31

techrights-bot

#IBM : RMS must remove himself from #FSF and #GNU because of "something women..." Also IBM: http://techrights.org/2020/07/26/ibm-watson-plane-incident/ http://techrights.org/2020/09/30/ibm-and-sexual-abuse-of-women/

Mar 23 13:33

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Meet the IBM Watsons: Sponsors of Richard Nixon and Abusers of Women | Techrights

Mar 23 13:33

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The ‘Access Watson Tapes’: Rare Richard Nixon Tape on Former IBM President and Son of IBM’s Founder Engaging in Sexual Abuse of Women | Techrights

Mar 23 13:33

techrights-bot

#IBM (Red Hat) Lectured FSF That It Needed More Diversity, But Was It Looking at the Mirror? IBM and Red Hat Are Even Less Diverse. • 𝗧𝗲𝗰𝗵𝗿𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁𝘀 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2020/06/06/hypocritical-ibm-red-hat/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2020/06/06/hypocritical-ibm-red-hat/

Mar 23 13:34

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM (Red Hat) Lectured FSF That It Needed More Diversity, But Was It Looking at the Mirror? IBM and Red Hat Are Even Less Diverse. | Techrights

Mar 23 13:34

techrights-bot

#Games #Gaming : Steam, Stadia, Warzone 2100 4.0 and More New Titles • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149125 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

Mar 23 13:34

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Steam, Stadia, Warzone 2100 4.0 and More New Titles | Tux Machines

Mar 23 13:35

techrights-bot

#DestinationLinux gives platform to anti-RMS hack, preceded by moles who would later go work directly for #microsoft https://destinationlinux.org/episode-218/ also recent: http://techrights.org/2021/01/12/gnome-foundation-rms/

Mar 23 13:36

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-destinationlinux.org | 218: GNOME 40 - Interview with Neil McGovern, Executive Director of GNOME - Destination Linux

Mar 23 13:36

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | GNOME Foundation is Still Participating in the Attack on Richard Stallman | Techrights

Mar 23 13:36

techrights-bot

Time for #ibm #redhat to #deletegithub or quit talking to us about "Open Source" (Github is #proprietarySoftware and monopoly thereof) https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hat-and-nodejs-introduction

Mar 23 13:37

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Red Hat and Node.js: An Introduction

Mar 23 13:37

techrights-bot

Buzzwords for #marketing department: "hybrid clown" https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hat-apex-partners-whats-new-and-where-are-we-going-2021

Mar 23 13:38

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Red Hat Apex Partners: what’s new, and where are we going in 2021?

Mar 23 13:38

techrights-bot

#Fedora Linux 34 Beta Is Here with GNOME 40, #Btrfs Transparent Compression, and Linux 5.11 • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149126 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

Mar 23 13:40

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora Linux 34 Beta Is Here with GNOME 40, Btrfs Transparent Compression, and Linux 5.11 | Tux Machines

Mar 23 13:40

techrights-bot

January: GNOME’s supposed ‘representatives’ (close-knit friends with Microsoft connections) continue to attack RMS (Richard Stallman), the founder of GNU (the G in GNOME) and the Free Software Movement http://techrights.org/2021/01/12/gnome-foundation-rms/

Mar 23 13:42

techrights-bot

February: #GNOMEFoundation and #OSI Move on to ’Extend’ Phase Against the Free Software Definition (or Against Software Freedom) • 𝗧𝗲𝗰𝗵𝗿𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁𝘀 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/02/09/freesw-license-redefined/ •●• #Techrights#FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/02/09/freesw-license-redefined/

Mar 23 13:42

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | GNOME Foundation and OSI Move on to ‘Extend’ Phase Against the Free Software Definition (or Against Software Freedom) | Techrights

Mar 23 13:42

techrights-bot

The "will attack RMS for food" online mob is likely emboldened by #covid19 as it rendered many people unemployed, including some very high-profile #InternetTrolls http://techrights.org/2021/03/05/google-funded-trolls/

Mar 23 13:44

techrights-bot

’Self-Service’ is Just an Unjust Disservice by Selfish Business People • 𝗧𝗲𝗰𝗵𝗿𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁𝘀 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/03/23/war-on-cashiers/ •●• #Techrights #privacy #humanrights #greed #uk gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/23/war-on-cashiers/

Mar 23 13:51

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | ‘Self-Service’ is Just an Unjust Disservice by Selfish Business People | Techrights

Mar 23 13:51

Ariadne

schestowitz: well, in my case, where i live was protected land until the trump administration put it up for sale

Mar 23 13:54

schestowitz

did Biden undo the sale?

Mar 23 13:54

schestowitz

he did in some cases like Alaska IIRC

Ariadne

schestowitz: so there was no point in building utilities to something that was not going to be developed

Ariadne

in this case, no

Ariadne

i mean, you can't really 'undo' a sale once it is done

schestowitz

there's always a way(TM)

Ariadne

yeah they can buy back my farm

Ariadne

i'll sell it to them for $10 mil

schestowitz

how many goats?

Ariadne

at the moment? 5 goats

schestowitz

we cannot have them here in Manchester near town

schestowitz

otherwise we might

Ariadne

but what i am learning is that goat herding is not a good hobby for me

schestowitz

if it's good for the mind, why not?

Ariadne

there's been a couple of coyotes who have come down from the mountain and tried to fuck with our goats

schestowitz

that's their "food"

Ariadne

indeed

schestowitz

coyote be coyote be ugly

schestowitz

I think sat is still not energy-efficient for connectivity

Mar 23 13:58

schestowitz

putting them up there isn't the sole cost

Mar 23 13:58

schestowitz

but "people want EVERYTHING... and FAST"

Mar 23 13:58

schestowitz

maybe being offline more will become "hip" one day... maybe.

Mar 23 13:59

schestowitz

Torvalds was offline for 6 days recently... not even power to run a laptop... so offline from grid and from tech also

Mar 23 13:59

schestowitz

could sit and chat with family instead...

schestowitz

maybe even do exercise, which he needs

DaemonFC[m]

He can go to full time internet trolling now.

schestowitz

no internet

schestowitz

outage in oregon

schestowitz

even the rich people's area

schestowitz

portland

schestowitz

the good side of it

schestowitz

I've seen more trolling against him than from him

schestowitz

media inverts things, then distorts constructive criticism of outburst as something else... which they coyly use to weaken him

Mar 23 14:02

DaemonFC[m]

Self-checks with no cash acceptance pressure people to get bank accounts.

Mar 23 14:02

DaemonFC[m]

Many of them make you jump through hoops to avoid fees.

Mar 23 14:02

MinceR

well, it's not like they let Torvalds do anything anyway

DaemonFC[m]

You get charged $3 per paper statement at my bank, and they make you a checking, savings, and "reserve" account that all basically have no interest, so if you get paper bills it can be $9 a month.

schestowitz

[14:02] <DaemonFC[m]> Self-checks with no cash acceptance pressure people to get bank accounts.

schestowitz

yeah

DaemonFC[m]

Then $12 a month to "manage" your account unless you have direct deposits.

schestowitz

but... that's more about war on cash

DaemonFC[m]

$24 a month to have an account in a bank computer and for them to spend about $1.60 mailing you statements.

schestowitz

same with the "spy meters" here

schestowitz

we figure it's now 70 or more USD/$ per year

schestowitz

to not hace one

schestowitz

x5 years, that's a lot of money

schestowitz

not to be mailed statements and not have some Internet-connected POS in the house... that you neither own nor control

schestowitz

I wonder if we can wage a legal action over this

schestowitz

even class action

DaemonFC[m]

They charge you $5 just to have a meter here, even if it's a smart meter.

DaemonFC[m]

For something that's going to sit there for 40 or 50 years before replacement.

schestowitz

they clearly have an agenda here and maybe there's some legal or constitutional basis for action

schestowitz

DaemonFC[m]: that's the other thing

schestowitz

the "spy" meters don't last long

schestowitz

the routers/hubs get replaced every 2-10 years

schestowitz

before they become "too old"

schestowitz

for phones you have the xG upgrade mill

DaemonFC[m]

Our electric meter was decades old in the house we lived in when I was a child.

DaemonFC[m]

The outside was even rusted.

techrights-bot

Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149127 #gnu #linux

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines

schestowitz

DaemonFC[m]: they still work

schestowitz

and magnets don't sway them much

DaemonFC[m]

schestowitz: Took a lot of people employed reading meters.

schestowitz

yes, we've not seen ours in a while

schestowitz

we even explained to him we pay more to protect his job

DaemonFC[m]

The electric company saves money on new ones even if they need replaced more often.

schestowitz

so he's come, knock, move on quickly

schestowitz

so he can come a second and third time

DaemonFC[m]

I saw the guy a few times in the 90s.

Mar 23 14:09

DaemonFC[m]

He's just walk through the back yard and open it up and then close it and leave

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Mar 23 14:10

DaemonFC[m]

Seems like it would take a lot of them to get through all the houses in the country.

Mar 23 14:10

DaemonFC[m]

Wonder how many jobs were lost to smart meters.

Mar 23 14:10

techrights-bot

When will we hard of #monopolies collapsing due to #covid19 h https://www.businessinsider.in/business/news/total-283-companies-declared-themselves-as-bankrupt-amid-pandemic-after-nationwide-lockdown-reveals-nclt/articleshow/81646694.cms our corrupt officials bail them out! They loot us! http://techrights.org/2020/08/18/microsoft-graft/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.businessinsider.in | Total 283 companies declared themselves as bankrupt amid pandemic after nationwide lockdown, reveals NCLT | Business Insider India

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | With Help From Donald Trump, Microsoft is Plundering and Looting the American Taxpayers, Then Gloating About It | Techrights

schestowitz

*hear

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DaemonFC[m]: it doesn't take them long

schestowitz

a lot less than for us

schestowitz

but the fewer they have, the more expensive it becomes

schestowitz

if you only go a yard or two between meters... and some are clustered (like a dozen in a single place)... it saves the customers a LOT of time

Mar 23 14:12

schestowitz

great example of "made in china" plasticism solve a "problem" that never was

Mar 23 14:12

schestowitz

how to reduce costs

Mar 23 14:12

schestowitz

without even improving actual service or passing benefits to customers

schestowitz

magenet hacking on meters does not work

schestowitz

you can end up overcharing yourself

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or pulling it backwards, in which case they catch you

schestowitz

the spy meters have back doors

schestowitz

no lack of stories about them causing mistakes, security issues, gross overcharge scandals

schestowitz

I still don't think ANY toothpaste needs wifi or even bluetooth

schestowitz

or toothbrush

schestowitz

maybe soon the toothpaste tubes too will come with chips

Mar 23 14:15

schestowitz

"made in china"... so "don't worry"... it's cheap anyway

Mar 23 14:15

techrights-bot

"When Eva Fortune, a research engineer at Proofpoint, asked who had allowed Stallman back, Moussouris, who has worked for Microsoft and Symantec in the past, responded that the board of FSF was responsible." Thanks to #itwire we now see #microsoft and #proprietarySoftware role in #blackmail against #fsf (to render if headless and leaderless). FSF must have done something RIGHT!

Mar 23 14:18

techrights-bot

Reminder: tweets are not articles. Those who say articles are just a bunch of cherry-picked tweets don't know what #journalism is and do not care, either. http://techrights.org/2019/07/21/twitter-is-unverified-hearsay/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Tweets Are Not Journalism But Succinct Unverified Hearsay; Time to Treat Them Accordingly | Techrights

DaemonFC[m]

<schestowitz "no lack of stories about them ca"> Thousands of dollars for water bills in Atlanta and city won't investigate.

DaemonFC[m]

Says check for leaks, but there are no leaks.

DaemonFC[m]

Then they turn the water off.

techrights-bot

Social Control Media: Where ’Cancel Culture’ Thrives • 𝗧𝗲𝗰𝗵𝗿𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁𝘀 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2020/06/08/twitter-cancel-culture/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2020/06/08/twitter-cancel-culture/

Mar 23 14:21

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Social Control Media: Where ‘Cancel Culture’ Thrives | Techrights

Mar 23 14:21

techrights-bot

#twitter is a good place in which to defame people and rile up cults, based on falsehoods, without any form of accountability (Twitter isn't a publisher) http://techrights.org/2020/09/10/the-fake-door-sign/

Mar 23 14:21

techrights-bot

#microsoft #windows has become like an action movie. Totally unpredictable. Get popcorn. https://www.ghacks.net/2021/03/21/update-woes-that-never-end-microsoft-halts-patch-of-a-patch-of-a-patch-rollout-to-fix-printing-issues/

Mar 23 14:22

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ghacks.net | Update woes that never end: Microsoft halts Patch of a Patch of a Patch rollout to fix printing issues - gHacks Tech News

Mar 23 14:22

techrights-bot

The media mostly stopped talking about Bill Gates using Jeffrey Epstein as his ‘mule’ (passing millions of dollars to MIT) the moment the police was contacted for all the information pertaining to pedophilia at his home; shortly afterwards Richard Stallman was ejected from MIT (forced resignation) http://techrights.org/2019/12/21/police-report-bill-gates/

Mar 23 14:24

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Mansion of Pedophilia – Part II: Dr. Stallman Defamed in the Media One Day After Request Made for King County Sheriff’s Office to Divulge Information About Pedophilia in Home of Bill Gates | Techrights

Mar 23 14:24

techrights-bot

Advice to FSF: if people blast you for bringing RMS back to the Board, check who pays those people's salaries or who influenced them. Usually the very same #proprietarySoftware #monopolies RMS blasts... and they distort what he said, lie about him http://techrights.org/2021/03/23/still-libeling-rms/

Mar 23 14:26

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft-Connected (and Funded) Sites Still Distort What Happened and What Richard Stallman Actually Said | Techrights

Mar 23 14:26

techrights-bot

Microsoft Outlook: a platform for running malware (attachments, even without clicking on them). Microsoft Exchange: a platform for leaking trillions of private E-mails, then blaming "CHOIIIINA" (falsely) http://techrights.org/2021/03/03/microsoft-blame-shifting-tactics/

Mar 23 14:28

techrights-bot

As long as there are #Microsoft Exchange servers in the world (even if you do not use them! They still process mail of billions of people) there's no such thing as "private" mail unless it's E2E-encrypted. http://techrights.org/2020/11/27/encrypt-with-e2ee-in-depth-article/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Guarding Your Privacy With E2EE: Primer | Techrights

schestowitz

DaemonFC[m]: coverup is even easier in the digital realm

schestowitz

for many reasons

schestowitz

forensics of the "invisibles"

https://ircz.de/p/21031720

schestowitz

also heightened complexity

Mar 23 14:30

schestowitz

MinceR: you're holding it up WRONG!

Mar 23 14:30

MinceR

Mar 23 14:30

techrights-bot

Women vs (white-only) Big Tech and activism in Brazil https://stop.zona-m.net/2021/03/women-vs-white-only-big-tech-and-activism-in-brazil/ sadly it pimps the #scam that is #duckDuckGo http://techrights.org/2021/03/15/duckduckgo-in-2021/

Mar 23 14:31

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stop.zona-m.net | Women vs (white-only) Big Tech and activism in Brazil | Stop at Zona-M

Mar 23 14:31

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Why You Should Avoid DuckDuckGo (DDG) 2021 Edition, Now Microsoft-Hosted and With Extra Privacy Risks | Techrights

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Mar 23 14:32

MinceR

Mar 23 14:33

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (5327046)

Mar 23 14:33

techrights-bot

At #TheRegister it is #MicrosoftTim writing about the return of #RMS and one can imagine what train wreck 'journalism' that is https://www.theregister.com/2021/03/22/richard_stallman_back_on_fsf_board/ see http://techrights.org/2021/02/28/the-register-microsoft-pr/

Mar 23 14:34

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Richard Stallman says he has returned to the Free Software Foundation board of directors and won't be resigning again • The Register

Mar 23 14:34

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Fall of The Register | Techrights

Mar 23 14:34

techrights-bot

The “war on cashiers” is arguably a more urgent problem and pressing threat than the "war on cash"; the poem below accompanies the video above • 𝗧𝗲𝗰𝗵𝗿𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁𝘀 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/03/23/war-on-cashiers/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/23/war-on-cashiers/

Mar 23 14:36

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | ‘Self-Service’ is Just an Unjust Disservice by Selfish Business People | Techrights

Mar 23 14:36

techrights-bot

#GNOME 40’s Best New Features • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149128 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #GTK

Mar 23 14:38

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME 40’s Best New Features | Tux Machines

Mar 23 14:38

techrights-bot

"A question. The deemed date of receipt of the summons is Saturday 27th March. Does the two month period under Rule 115 EPC start on the 27th or the 29th March?" http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/03/board-of-appeal-in-t180715-continues.html?showComment=1616500043061#c7341743352099735371 see http://techrights.org/2021/03/18/boa-rendered-kangaroo-court/

Mar 23 14:39

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | BREAKING: Board of Appeal in T1807/15 continues with ViCo oral proceedings referral - The IPKat

Mar 23 14:40

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Patent Professionals Have Come to Realise That the EPO Boards of Appeal, Controlled by Office Management, Are Kangaroo Courts | Techrights

Mar 23 14:40

techrights-bot

#OpenRazer v3 brings more #Razer keyboard and mouse drivers to #Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149076#comment-28742

Mar 23 14:45

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OpenRazer 3.0 Released For Supporting Many More Razer Peripherals Under Linux | Tux Machines

Mar 23 14:45

techrights-bot

Announcing the release of #Fedora Linux 34 Beta • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149129 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

Mar 23 14:46

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Announcing the release of Fedora Linux 34 Beta | Tux Machines

Mar 23 14:46

techrights-bot

More #propaganda and lobbying by think tank of #TeamUPC , pretending #UPC is good and that it's anything but dead, i.e. more of the usual https://www.managingip.com/article/b1r2czc8wthj38/hamburg-judge-upc-an-embarrassment-for-germany see also http://techrights.org/2020/07/31/managing-ip-fake-news/

Mar 23 14:52

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | Hamburg judge: UPC an ‘embarrassment’ for Germany | Managing Intellectual Property

Mar 23 14:52

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Managing IP Still Champions Fake ‘News’ for Team UPC | Techrights

Mar 23 14:52

techrights-bot

This did not age well... AT ALL. http://techrights.org/2020/07/30/plough-on-over-upc/ #teamUPC #upc #lies

Mar 23 14:54

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Hillary Clinton Likely to Plough on After 2016 Election… | Techrights

Mar 23 14:54

techrights-bot

Older/apropos: The #UPC is Dead, Long Live the German Constitutional Court • 𝗧𝗲𝗰𝗵𝗿𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁𝘀 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2020/12/22/german-constitutional-court-second-take/ •●• #Techrights gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2020/12/22/german-constitutional-court-second-take/

Mar 23 14:55

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The UPC is Dead, Long Live the German Constitutional Court | Techrights

Mar 23 14:55

techrights-bot

Older: Lies and Fake News With Quotation Marks: The Latest Strategy From #TeamUPC h • 𝗧𝗲𝗰𝗵𝗿𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁𝘀 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2020/12/07/charlotte-kilpatrick-lies/ •●• #Techrights gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2020/12/07/charlotte-kilpatrick-lies/ | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/03/23/#latest

Mar 23 14:56

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Lies and Fake News With Quotation Marks: The Latest Strategy From Team UPC? | Techrights

Mar 23 14:56

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts

Mar 23 14:56

techrights-bot

And also related, even recent: Managing ’Intellectual Property’ (Managing 'IP’) is Promoting Software Patents for a Fee • 𝗧𝗲𝗰𝗵𝗿𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁𝘀 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2020/08/22/swpats-paid-propaganda/ •●• #Techrights #swpats #europe gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2020/08/22/swpats-paid-propaganda/

Mar 23 14:57

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Managing ‘Intellectual Property’ (Managing ‘IP’) is Promoting Software Patents for a Fee | Techrights

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Mar 23 15:00

techrights-bot

#GNUParallel 20210322 ('2002-01-06') released [stable] http://savannah.gnu.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=9959 #gnu

Mar 23 15:11

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-savannah.gnu.org | GNU Parallel - News: GNU Parallel 20210322 ('2002-01-06') released [stable] [Savannah]

Mar 23 15:11

techrights-bot

RMS is back at the FSF. http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149083#comment-28743

Mar 23 15:14

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Good News! Richard Stallman is Back at Free Software Foundation | Tux Machines

Mar 23 15:14

techrights-bot

Watch out as #corporateMedia is back to lying about RMS, in order to incite people (based on falsehoods) http://techrights.org/2021/03/23/still-libeling-rms/

Mar 23 15:15

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft-Connected (and Funded) Sites Still Distort What Happened and What Richard Stallman Actually Said | Techrights

Mar 23 15:15

techrights-bot

This is nonsense because patents are not rights. But this blogger is sponsored by extremists who profit from software patent/s extortion and patents on life and nature, so facts are out the window https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/03/patent-rights-printing.html

Mar 23 15:16

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | Patent rights, Taxes, and Printing Money | Patently-O

Mar 23 15:16

techrights-bot

Many of the tactics long used against #assange (inc. accusing #wikileaks of following "cult figure") are now used against #RMS (to incite #FSF members against him). DON'T FALL FOR IT. Check who's doing it (to mislead people, usually riling up the real cults) http://techrights.org/2021/03/23/still-libeling-rms/

Mar 23 15:18

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Mar 23 15:18

techrights-bot

#techrights to release internal #epo doc shortly. Another scandal!

Mar 23 15:19

MinceR

(cat) (audio:unimportant) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2021/02/20/2113f3e8fc345773.mp4

Mar 23 15:21

CrystalMath

well, i guess it's now time to restore my old quit message :)

Mar 23 15:23

MinceR

ibm's crybully trolls are working to make the current one relevant again :>

Mar 23 15:25

MinceR

example >> https://files.catbox.moe/3rogl8.jpg

Mar 23 15:26

XRevan86

MinceR: "sweaty creep" – mm, calling names, that's one high moral high ground

Mar 23 15:33

CrystalMath

MinceR: rms said he won't be resigning a second time, meaning that the only way for him to be removed is by the voting members, however at least 4 of these are so firmly pro-stallman that their vote could never change

Mar 23 15:34

CrystalMath

one of them IS stallman, another one is lxo

Mar 23 15:34

CrystalMath

so those are the two firmest pro-rms votes, i also know about 2 more that are by one nanometer less firm

Mar 23 15:34

CrystalMath

but no way would those two yield to cancel culture, they're being attacked themselves

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Mar 23 15:38

XRevan86

https://bbc.com/news/world-europe-56491949 nice, I didn't know Poland is this much alike.

Mar 23 15:39

XRevan86

> Poland has made it a crime to insult state leaders and religion.

Mar 23 15:39

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Mar 23 15:39

XRevan86

"and religion" – oh, that's new.

Mar 23 15:40

schestowitz

sweaty mob

schestowitz

XRevan86: too much speech

schestowitz

exposing ecorruption

schestowitz

they will spin it as "hate"

schestowitz

somehow...

Mar 23 15:42

schestowitz

we "protect" you

Mar 23 15:42

schestowitz

to protect the corrupt

Mar 23 15:42

XRevan86

Zhul'chik… what an interesting last name.

Mar 23 15:44

XRevan86

schestowitz: Hate speech against the authority.

schestowitz

tolerance does not extend to sweaty people

schestowitz

inclusion, except if you swear

schestowitz

*sweat

XRevan86

schestowitz: he's just too weird, rubs in the wrong way, you know?

schestowitz

let's not include him

XRevan86

yea

schestowitz

def. not tolerable

schestowitz

he looked at me funny

schestowitz

"creep!""

schestowitz

we also see him maligned as autistic

schestowitz

no such diagnosis

schestowitz

and even if he was

schestowitz

what does that tell us about people who call him that?

schestowitz

we did like half a dozen articles about this in TR last year

schestowitz

apparently diversity and inclusion preclude people with Asperger's?

XRevan86

schestowitz: That they're no inclusive of neuroatypical people?

schestowitz

anyway, back to EPO article...

schestowitz

"LOVE ME ACCEPT ME FUCK YOU SWEATY OLD MAN!!!"

Mar 23 15:49

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Mar 23 15:53

schestowitz

anyone care to proofread (re EPO)?

Mar 23 15:55

schestowitz

I lack confidence in this...

Mar 23 15:55

schestowitz

draft: http://techrights.org/2021/03/23/epo-robbery/

Mar 23 15:55

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Mar 23 15:56

schestowitz

DaemonFC[m]: can you read it?

Mar 23 15:56

MinceR

23 163943 <+XRevan86> > Poland has made it a crime to insult state leaders and religion.

MinceR

well, hungary copies russia and poland copies hungary, for the most part

MinceR

but maybe they got over their hatred for russians to the point where they're willing to copy russia directly

schestowitz

fuck Polish leaders :-) "morons" (if I can say it from the UK)

MinceR

Mar 23 16:00

XRevan86

schestowitz: Andrew Chuda – Dujlo?

Mar 23 16:00

XRevan86

* Andrzej

Mar 23 16:02

MinceR

Mar 23 16:02

techrights-bot

#EPO Robbery Under the Shadow of #Pandemic Sweeping Across Europe • 𝗧𝗲𝗰𝗵𝗿𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁𝘀 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/03/23/epo-robbery/ •●• #Techrights #patents gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/23/epo-robbery/

schestowitz

by the way, I know another polish "Duda"

schestowitz

he was recently in the news again

schestowitz

a maths researcher

schestowitz

who released to the PD what Microsoft and Google try to monopolise with software patents

Mar 23 16:05

schestowitz

I forgot his hard-to-pronounce first name

Mar 23 16:05

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Mar 23 16:08

MinceR

duda's comrades in the uk, the tories, might be offended enough to copy that law, though :>

Mar 23 16:15

XRevan86

MinceR: You mean Boris Khohnson – Jooyloh?

Mar 23 16:17

XRevan86

(I'll stop)

Mar 23 16:17

MinceR

lol

Mar 23 16:17

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Mar 23 16:18

techrights-bot

[Meme] #EPO Robbed http://techrights.org/2021/03/23/how-to-rob-the-epo/ #corruption #Europe #patents #crime

Mar 23 16:21

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] EPO Robbed | Techrights

Mar 23 16:21

schestowitz

XRevan86: in the name of lurve

Mar 23 16:22

*XRevan86 read that similiarly to Louvre, had to look it up.

Mar 23 16:23

XRevan86

(in the city of love, coincidence?)

Mar 23 16:24

XRevan86

Also: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/kocha%C4%87#Polish

Mar 23 16:25

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wiktionary.org | kochać - Wiktionary

Mar 23 16:25

XRevan86

Proto-Slavic (dialectal): "to make love to" – oohhhh

Mar 23 16:27

XRevan86

Derived terms: orzkošь (роскошь): voluptuousness, pleasure, orgasm

Mar 23 16:28

XRevan86

Thanks, Wiktionary, now I definitely know more than I needed to.

Mar 23 16:28

techrights-bot

From what I have seen, there are 2 types of people in the anti-RMS camp: 1. workers of #proprietarySoftware #monopolies 2. people misled by the group (1)

Mar 23 16:34

XRevan86

What about those who don't like sweaty people?

Mar 23 16:35

schestowitz

(2)

Mar 23 16:35

schestowitz

if you dig deep enough

schestowitz

they might even sign fabricated stuff

schestowitz

*cite

schestowitz

but anyway, I decided to do a more contrusctive post

schestowitz

on technical matters

schestowitz

to move the discussion on

schestowitz

in another direction

schestowitz

High-Priority Proposals for the FSF in 2021

Mar 23 16:37

schestowitz

share here in IRC suggestions

Mar 23 16:37

schestowitz

I need 10 in total

Mar 23 16:37

techrights-ipfs

Mar 23 16:39

schestowitz

anyone....?

Mar 23 16:40

schestowitz

replace the github near-monopoly with something that is self-hosted, preferably decentralised to a certain degree, and without a "Community Edition" (everyting is for the community)

Mar 23 16:41

schestowitz

what else?

Mar 23 16:41

schestowitz

Promote the use of existing remote work (or conferencing, teaching etc.) tools, especially ones that aren't controlled by GitHub. Or try to wean them off GitHub.

Mar 23 16:44

techrights-bot

#Firefox 88 Beta Adds Smooth Pinch-Zooming Support for Linux on Wayland, Enables AVIF by Default • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149131 •●• #mozilla #freesw

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Firefox 88 Beta Adds Smooth Pinch-Zooming Support for Linux on Wayland, Enables AVIF by Default | Tux Machines

techrights-bot

#Fedora 34 Beta Released. Download and Test now. • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149130 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #redhat

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora 34 Beta Released. Download and Test now. | Tux Machines

schestowitz

I have 8 now

Mar 23 16:57

schestowitz

any more?

Mar 23 16:57

techrights-bot

High-Priority Proposals for the #FSF in 2021 • 𝗧𝗲𝗰𝗵𝗿𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁𝘀 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/03/23/10-reasons-or-ways-to-support-fsf/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/23/10-reasons-or-ways-to-support-fsf/

Mar 23 17:12

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MinceR

23 173706 <@schestowitz> High-Priority Proposals for the FSF in 2021

Mar 23 17:14

MinceR

anti-systemd campaign

Mar 23 17:14

MinceR

also, maybe something for a kernel for GNU that has quality control

Mar 23 17:15

MinceR

instead of just "throw it into the kernel"

Mar 23 17:15

DaemonFC[m]

Now people within Mozilla and Debian are trying to replace GNU Coreutils with one written in Rust

Mar 23 17:20

XRevan86

DaemonFC[m]: That's hard to believe.

Mar 23 17:20

MinceR

they should be working on reimplementing coreutils in C as part of systemd

Mar 23 17:21

MinceR

i can see that they want to get rid of GNU ASAP, but they could do it the "modern" way...

Mar 23 17:21

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Mar 23 17:22

XRevan86

the world needs zigstemd

Mar 23 17:22

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Mar 23 17:22

DaemonFC[m]

SJVN post on ZDnet about the Rust implementation.

Mar 23 17:23

MinceR

lol

Mar 23 17:23

MinceR

i really don't get why they'd want to rewrite anything in rust, when their overlords have already provided c# to them for this purpose

Mar 23 17:23

psydroid

they should just adopt a Rust operating system and shove all their crap into that directly

Mar 23 17:25

psydroid

RIP Redox, if they get the same treatment as GNU/Linux

Mar 23 17:26

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Mar 23 17:27

schestowitz

DaemonFC[m]: yeas, seen that

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Mar 23 17:28

techrights-bot

#SJVN post on #ZDNet regarding #rustlang just reaffirms everything we already know about those three things. See http://techrights.org/2020/06/18/rusty-censorship/ and http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/ZDNet

Mar 23 17:28

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Beware Mozilla and Rust, They’re Not Friends of Free Software or Even of Free Speech | Techrights

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | ZDNet - Techrights

MinceR

then again, i guess rust is to c# what github is to codeplex

schestowitz

[17:22] <XRevan86> the world needs zigstemd

schestowitz

world zomination

MinceR

zombie nation

schestowitz

One World, One Web, One Program.

schestowitz

- Ad for Internet Explorer

schestowitz

Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Führer.

schestowitz

- Adolf Hitler

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MinceR

Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Drive.

MinceR

- Microsoft

techrights-bot

Since I wrote this post things have gotten a lot worse for #rustlang as it climbed even higher and deeper into the bed of #microsoft http://techrights.org/2020/08/31/linux-should-reject-github/

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techrights-bot

Today in #Techrights • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149132 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

Mar 23 17:34

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Mar 23 17:34

techrights-bot

In certain ways, at the moment, #geminiProtocol acts a lot like #www except all the really bad and malicious stuff https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/006165.html

Mar 23 17:36

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Mar 23 17:36

techrights-bot

#EPO is being looted by corrupt management which gaslights the staff and turns the Office into somewhat of a laughing stock (even stakeholders have grown impatient, seeing that justice itself ceased to exist in EPOnia) EPO Robbery Under the Shadow of #Pandemic Sweeping Across Europe • 𝗧𝗲𝗰𝗵𝗿𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁𝘀 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/03/23/epo-robbery/ •●• #Techrights #Europe #corruption

Mar 23 17:38

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Mar 23 17:38

techrights-bot

A toxic mix or dangerous cocktail of diplomatic #immunity and greed • 𝗧𝗲𝗰𝗵𝗿𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁𝘀 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/03/23/how-to-rob-the-epo/ •●• #Techrights #EPO #corruption gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/23/how-to-rob-the-epo/

Mar 23 17:39

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Mar 23 17:39

schestowitz

MinceR: Microdolf

Mar 23 17:39

MinceR

Mar 23 17:40

*schestowitz gives voice to psymin

Mar 23 17:41

*schestowitz gives voice to aindilis dragestil

Mar 23 17:41

techrights-bot

"Think about it: even if you want to challenge the legality of the EBA-appointed date of 28 May 2021, who will decide whether your challenge to the legality of the date has any merit?" #EPO #justice is gone. GONE. http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/03/board-of-appeal-in-t180715-continues.html?showComment=1616512096438#c3669708545428761494 http://techrights.org/2021/03/18/boa-rendered-kangaroo-court/

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http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/03/board-of-appeal-in-t180715-continues.html?showComment=1616512096438#c3669708545428761494

schestowitz

schestowitz

schestowitz

Kant, I congratulate you, for prompting me to laugh out loud. It makes a break from crying.

schestowitz

As to your point though: is it not totally futile to make the point that the out of EBA might have failed to provide the mandatory 2 month period? Think about it: even if you want to challenge the legality of the EBA-appointed date of 28 May 2021, who will decide whether your challenge to the legality of the date has any merit?

schestowitz

Yet another foregone conclusion, to add to all the others?

schestowitz

techrights-bot

Let me explain what the EBA situation at the #EPO means: you nowadays cannot complain about the EPO breaking the law as that complaint of yours will be redirected to a panel/board that's now besieged, infiltrated and generally beholden to corruption. So the whole system is rogue from top to bottom. Needs flushing.

Mar 23 17:45

techrights-bot

Just tell them you use #microsoft #windows so they can conclude that none of their data is safe https://patentlyo.com/hricik/2021/03/informing-clients-breaches.html same problem at #epo BTW: http://techrights.org/2021/03/22/epoleaks-report-march-2021-finale/

Mar 23 17:46

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | Informing Clients and Former Clients of Data Breaches | Patently-O

Mar 23 17:46

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO and Microsoft Collude to Break the Law — Summing Up: EPO Administrative Council Still Asleep at the Wheel | Techrights

Mar 23 17:46

techrights-bot

Recognition that many #USPTO #patents are just #fakepatents , giving applicants false hope (until they come to court) https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/03/examination-patentability-eligibility.html

Mar 23 17:48

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Mar 23 17:48

techrights-bot

Run #LibrePCB the Electronic Engineering tool on #Ubuntu Computer • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149133 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

Mar 23 17:50

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Mar 23 17:50

techrights-bot

Some personal suggestions or a list of things that would help the #FSF succeed and keep growing (and remaining relevant) for decades to come • 𝗧𝗲𝗰𝗵𝗿𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁𝘀 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/03/23/10-reasons-or-ways-to-support-fsf/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/23/10-reasons-or-ways-to-support-fsf/

Mar 23 17:51

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | High-Priority Proposals for the FSF in 2021 | Techrights

Mar 23 17:51

MinceR

schestowitz: another idea: kicking gnome out of the gnu project

Mar 23 17:52

schestowitz

gnome kicks itself

schestowitz

they only pretend to be "G" when it suits thwem

schestowitz

like asking for RMS to resign

schestowitz

did this in 2009

schestowitz

vaf hood and others

schestowitz

now de blanc and mcgovern

schestowitz

Even this year! http://techrights.org/2021/01/12/gnome-foundation-rms/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | GNOME Foundation is Still Participating in the Attack on Richard Stallman | Techrights

MinceR

maybe they shouldn't get to pretend

schestowitz

yup

schestowitz

good point

schestowitz

we're gnome

MinceR

but opposing systemd seems to be the most important of the ideas i've brought up

schestowitz

we were made by de icaza

schestowitz

a Microsoft mole, turned full-time senior employee

schestowitz

a friend of CEO of ShitHub

schestowitz

and C# coosters

schestowitz

and then Peters joined Microsoft too

MinceR

schestowitz

systemd was hardly mentiond

schestowitz

to avoid "conroversy"

schestowitz

it's an example

schestowitz

I'm not sure what % of wayland commits are "salaried" by Red Hat

schestowitz

I would NOT count:

schestowitz

1. KDE trying to ADAPT to it

schestowitz

not KDE's fault

MinceR

it should be obvious at this point that controversy can't be avoided

schestowitz

2. drivers work on Wayland

MinceR

(and shouldn't)

Mar 23 17:56

schestowitz

also because the GPU industry might need to optimise for it

Mar 23 17:56

schestowitz

tuxmachines under attack again

schestowitz

on and off since start of feb.

schestowitz

hard to explain why

schestowitz

rianne keeps asking, what do they want from TUX????

schestowitz

maybe the issue isn't "controversy"

schestowitz

but advocacy

schestowitz

or news

schestowitz

except shit we omit like "EDGE FOR LINUX"

schestowitz

and other Microsoft proprietary SPAM

schestowitz

paid-for fake 'news'

schestowitz

DaemonFC[m]: you mentioned SJVN

schestowitz

he's finished

schestowitz

people I speak to look at his negatively

schestowitz

like SPAMnil

schestowitz

he'll retire in a few years

schestowitz

selling out a bit, health insurance if pricey in the US

schestowitz

*is

MinceR

23 185551 <@schestowitz> not KDE's fault

MinceR

they could just ignore it

schestowitz

they can try

schestowitz

they did try

Ariadne

wayland is good, actually

MinceR

they should have ignored systemd as well

schestowitz

notice how slow adoption of wayland has been

Ariadne

X is fucking garbage

MinceR

wayland is even worse

schestowitz

for the most part nobody bothered with it

schestowitz

so it became almost vapourware

MinceR

they left out everything lennart doesn't use on his laptop because hurr durr "security"

Ariadne

i'm literally using it right now

Ariadne

it works fine

schestowitz

kde?

MinceR

and then they're trying to get people to stop using X

Ariadne

yes

schestowitz

how does that work with games?

MinceR

even if waylandows can't even do what people use X for

Ariadne

on wayland

Ariadne

schestowitz: it runs a rootless X server for games

MinceR

lol

MinceR

how does it work with an FPS game in a window?

schestowitz

i heard red hat does the xwayland work to ease the abandonment of X

schestowitz

"not invented here"

MinceR

or an FPS game on a multihead setup?

schestowitz

=harder to tell support for

Ariadne

who knows

MinceR

i've heard grabbing and warping the pointer was "insecure"

Ariadne

linux graphic stack is entirely FUBAR anyway

MinceR

just like screenshots and screen sharing

schestowitz

Ariadne: can I ssh -X to it?

MinceR

yes, let's pretend X can't do the things we've been doing on it for a decade

schestowitz

if not, this is 1990s old school

Ariadne

do you actually ever `ssh -X` to anything?

schestowitz

yes!

MinceR

i do

Ariadne

i have never used `ssh -X` outside of university

schestowitz

even now

schestowitz

my media player is on another computer

MinceR

though right now i'm using ssh -Y

schestowitz

the controls are peripheral to me

MinceR

with x2x

schestowitz

Ariadne: the "you don't need this" mentality ruined mobile

schestowitz

instead of maemo

schestowitz

we have "apps" with two buttons, back and home

MinceR

next stop: switching from systemd/Linux with waylandows and gnome to windows or macOS because they're "modern"

Ariadne

anyway there is wayfwd

Ariadne

which does the same thing as `ssh -X`

schestowitz

7-8 years ago we tried posting to tuxmachines from an android tablet

schestowitz

even copy-paste was a chore

Ariadne

what does that have to do with wayland

MinceR

it has to do with dumbing down the UI for the sake of "modern"ity

schestowitz

I did not know about wayfwd

Ariadne

i dont own a tablet

schestowitz

I assume an x-running machine would not be able to ssh -X to a wayland machine

schestowitz

as wayfwd would not be a daemon

schestowitz

but some bridge between wayland machines

schestowitz

a 'hack'

Ariadne

you can use wayfwd + Xwayland for that

schestowitz

vulns and 0-days yet to be detected

Ariadne

also wayland clients can act as X clients

schestowitz

I see...

schestowitz

I need to look into it

Ariadne

thereis a lot of misinformation about wayland

schestowitz

I rarely comment on that because I need to know more

schestowitz

x is stable and mature

MinceR

wayland folks also seem to love client side decorations

MinceR

which is horrible

schestowitz

30 years or s of maturity

Ariadne

not true

schestowitz

apparently coded quite nicely for extension

Ariadne

it is possible to do CSD or not CSD

schestowitz

and without many bugs left to find

Ariadne

in wayland

MinceR

but hey, at least now gtk and qt has half a window manager built in because that's "modular", "lightweight" and "modern"

Ariadne

there is an entire protocol extension dedicated to negotiating it

MinceR

yes, but most wayland implementations, including the official one and the gnome one, won't do SSD

MinceR

because it conflicted with gnome's idea of copying macOS

Ariadne

yeah well gnome sucks :)

schestowitz

it used to be a bit better

MinceR

so does the rest of proprietarydesktop

schestowitz

but never great

Ariadne

but wayland is important

Ariadne

because it give us 0-copy compositing

MinceR

it would be important to do what wayland originally claimed to do

MinceR

but it would be important to do it correctly

Ariadne

which is not architecturally possible on X

schestowitz

I use gnome3 right now, it lacks the versatility it once had

MinceR

not the proprietarydesktop way

MinceR

and i doubt anyone will ever do that

MinceR

the maintainers of X don't even seem to understand X anymore

schestowitz

linus complained about gnome printer dialogue

schestowitz

microsoft now 'bricks' printing

Ariadne

X is barely X anymore

schestowitz

and you cannot block the updates LOL

MinceR

well, Linus doesn't get to complain about anything ever again

Ariadne

X is basically an extra step in between clients and a compositor

MinceR

i don't run a compositor

schestowitz

I think he uses fedora with pine and git

schestowitz

probably some custom-made scripts of his

MinceR

also, that "extra step" lets me restart/switch window managers while the clients keep running

Ariadne

not even xcompmgr?

MinceR

not even xcompmgr

schestowitz

MinceR: yes, but rarely of use in practice

Ariadne

enjoy your state of the 80s computer graphics ;)

MinceR

i enjoy it actually

schestowitz

I remember when x was bashed for ram consumption

MinceR

i don't need transparent windows

schestowitz

but even today's co-called phones have GIGS of RAM

Ariadne

anyway, wayland is necessary for 0-copy compositing

MinceR

i tried beryl, compiz and kde4, they were all massively buggy and glitchy

schestowitz

plasma5 is ok

schestowitz

kwin has some basic effects

schestowitz

no bugs I can see in these, not even gpu-related tears

MinceR

i think i tried compton for a while but realized i didn't need any of the features

Ariadne

tear-free rendering is nice on kwin under wayland

Ariadne

i just wish that my gpu would quit stalling

Ariadne

idk if it is hardware or intel gpu driver sucking tho

MinceR

not triggering gpu driver bugs and crashing the entire system regularly is also nice :>

schestowitz

nice to know another kde user anyway... they lost many users after kde 4.0

MinceR

yeah, they've lost me with kde 4.0 and 4.3

schestowitz

I still use kde4 on one old laptop

MinceR

"look, it's finally as good as kde 3.5 was!"

schestowitz

(the one I use for IRC)

MinceR

and then plasma crashed and lost all its settings

MinceR

and then i set up plasma again

MinceR

and then plasma crashed and lost all its settings again

schestowitz

yeah, that used to happen

MinceR

and then they announced systemd support in kde5

MinceR

and i lost interest in kde

schestowitz

who supports who?

schestowitz

systemd supports kde5?

MinceR

MinceR

schestowitz

how kind of them

MinceR

kde is just useful idiots to the gnome os people

MinceR

first kde starts to depend on systemd

schestowitz

I use xfce4 now also, it's solid

MinceR

then systemd yanks kde around by its chain

MinceR

then kde dies and its users happily move to gnome

MinceR

xfce used to be solid

schestowitz

xfce doesn't look as good, but I found out lots of ways to make it look a lot better

MinceR

then it started crashing every time i removed a panel

MinceR

then it got a settings daemon

MinceR

because every "modern" DE has to have a settings daemon

MinceR

so when it crashes because you're trying to change settings, it's not enough to just edit the config file and restart the application

schestowitz

back in the old days I combined kde and gnome

schestowitz

as in, run the panels of both

schestowitz

and widgets

MinceR

you also need to kill the app and settings daemon, then edit the file, then restart the settings daemon and the app

schestowitz

afaik, it's barely possible anymore, there are conflicting things

MinceR

i did that too

schestowitz

you can do kde+openbox

MinceR

but back then both gnome and kde were designed for actual use

schestowitz

by geeks

MinceR

and not just showing stuff off before deciding to buy a mac

schestowitz

plasma5 restored all the things kde3 had

MinceR

i doubt that

schestowitz

even all the window- and application-specific settings

schestowitz

you might take longer to find them, it's hidden behind more menu layers

schestowitz

konqueror is also still working

schestowitz

dolphin is a lot more stable. in 4.0 is was a mess

Ariadne

plasma5 is pretty solid tbh

schestowitz

it is for me

schestowitz

leaks a little ram after months of use

MinceR

fvwm is pretty solid

schestowitz

rianne has 4gb of ram so restarts it maybe once a month or every 2 months to flush down the unused ram

MinceR

and it mostly does what i want it to do

schestowitz

MinceR: but lacking many things

MinceR

no, not really

schestowitz

openbox was OK for me

MinceR

it can do things nothing else can

schestowitz

when I had 2 GB of RAM until last Feb

MinceR

like EdgeScroll :)

schestowitz

using tiling WMs seems to work for heavy terminal use

MinceR

fvwm is not a tiling wm

schestowitz

I enabled that in xfce4

schestowitz

but you need to edit text files for it

schestowitz

or run a command

MinceR

though i've written a script that lets me resize/move windows into positions in a grid

Mar 23 18:17

schestowitz

you can resize and change anything with xdotool

Mar 23 18:17

schestowitz

I use xdotool a lot

Mar 23 18:17

schestowitz

another reason I cannot use wayland

schestowitz

maybe ever!

schestowitz

xclip is another

schestowitz

xinput

MinceR

i did it with wmctrl

schestowitz

lots of x tools

schestowitz

but Mac users coming to gnu/linux might be fine with wayland

schestowitz

so bye x

schestowitz

let's go mac

MinceR

and gnome

MinceR

though i can't tell why mac users would go to systemd/Linux or GNU/Linux

Ariadne

there is wtype which does same thing as xdotool

MinceR

they're already where Gnome OS is going

MinceR

(to hell)

schestowitz

Ariadne: I'd need to rewrite programs :-D

Mar 23 18:20

techrights-bot

#Texas became a laughing stock of the #patent system and those profiting from the abuse of the system in Texas (law firms) sponsor this write to act as though all is well, nothing to see here... https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/03/albright-discretion-midland.html

Mar 23 18:22

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | Texas is Big: Albright did not Abuse Discretion in Moving Case from Midland to Waco. | Patently-O

Mar 23 18:22

MinceR

oh, also, most waylandows implementations depend on *logind, which is another abomination

Mar 23 18:23

MinceR

someone i know noticed how bad elogind was when it started killing his processes on logout

Mar 23 18:23

MinceR

something he did not ask for

Mar 23 18:23

techrights-bot

#OSI is a mess https://www.theregister.com/2021/03/22/osi_vote_vulnerability/ see http://techrights.org/2021/03/21/leaderless-osi/

Mar 23 18:25

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Open Source Initiative board election results scrapped after security hole found, exploited to rig outcome • The Register

Mar 23 18:25

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Open Source Initiative (OSI): A Boat Without a Captain | Techrights

Mar 23 18:25

schestowitz

MinceR: kill signal?

schestowitz

as first choice?

MinceR

not sure

schestowitz

sounds like some systemd bugs

MinceR

it's lennart's session bullshit

schestowitz

where they crack things midway

MinceR

and since elogind is derived from systemd-logind, the misfeature also went right across

schestowitz

well, itWorks(R)

schestowitz

Werks(TM)

MinceR

It Just Needs More Work.™

schestowitz

schestowitz

it's expensive

MinceR

also, You're Holding It Wrong.™

MinceR

"modern"®!

schestowitz

sysctl

schestowitz

~$ system X start

schestowitz

you are holding it wrong

schestowitz

try stary X

schestowitz

they even substituted the order

schestowitz

to confuse people more

schestowitz

so newbies need to memorise

MinceR

well, it sort of makes sense

schestowitz

sometimes service first and command second

schestowitz

sometimes the opposite

MinceR

but i don't want to use system{d,ctl} anyway

schestowitz

don't worry, they will memorise which one when..

schestowitz

nothing makes Linux easier...

MinceR

service is analogous to running stuff from /etc/init.d/

MinceR

systemctl has subcommands, including start and stop

schestowitz

yeah, but my point is,

schestowitz

they bury old habits

schestowitz

old commands

schestowitz

for poor people the old books, which are old,

schestowitz

are of no use anymore

MinceR

i wouldn't mind that, if they didn't put their malicious stuff into what used to be GNU/Linux and Debian

schestowitz

I guess IBM "inclusiveness" didn't exactly have them in mind

schestowitz

reprogram and retrain

MinceR

let them develop their windows/macos mashup separately

schestowitz

like CHina does Muslims

MinceR

yeah

Ariadne

[12:26:51] <MinceR> and since elogind is derived from systemd-logind, the misfeature also went right across

MinceR

they're inclusive only of people who push the agenda of their upper management

Ariadne

alpine is working on an alternative to logind :)

schestowitz

they don't make things easy much of the time

MinceR

nice

schestowitz

they create overlapping and conflicting systems

MinceR

though i also like xenocara and xenodm :>

schestowitz

how many sound systems does Firefox still support?

schestowitz

Mozilla gave up

MinceR

probably several, on non-GNU/Linux platforms

schestowitz

OSS and ALSA? meh..

MinceR

it's only ALSA they wanted to kill off

MinceR

in favor of poetteringaudio

schestowitz

LongPlay

Ariadne

tbh alsa-lib is awful to code against

schestowitz

many old programs are coded for i

schestowitz

like xmms

schestowitz

or for OSS

schestowitz

not sure if only xmms derivs support PA

schestowitz

I've not tried in ages

Ariadne

yes, audacious (the only xmms deriv that matters) supports PA

Ariadne

i wrote the plugin

schestowitz

vlc takes up lots of ram compared to winamp or xmms (before winamp before he llam's arse, literally)

schestowitz

llama

schestowitz

*became the

Ariadne

but not much of xmms is left in audacious

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Ariadne

not much of classic audacious is left either

schestowitz

Ariadne

the RDF-based library is there

Ariadne

but you cannot query it with sparql anymore

schestowitz

many people now use drm, streaming, and patented video formats

Ariadne

and no more XSPF

MinceR

they've already coded against it

MinceR

also, poetteringaudio is awful to use

MinceR

and if it doesn't depend on systemd yet, it soon will

MinceR

of course, mozilla would have to remove ALSA support from the source code _first_ so that they can force their users to poetteringaudio and then also to systemd

schestowitz

fedoralinux

schestowitz

wayland, btrfs in some partitions

schestowitz

gnome obviously

schestowitz

and the whole LP portfolio

schestowitz

debian will follow regardless

schestowitz

maybe slowly

XRevan86

MinceR: My goodness, you keep forgetting about PipeWire and resetting back to your original state!

MinceR

lol

MinceR

i don't trust pipewire, it's coming from ibm

MinceR

besides i doubt it will work on OpenBSD :>

XRevan86

MinceR: Because OpenBSD has its own audio system?

techrights-bot

#QOwnNotes 21.3.4 https://www.neowin.net/news/qownnotes-2134/ #freesw

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.neowin.net | QOwnNotes 21.3.4 - Neowin

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MinceR

because i'm tired of watching in horror what atrocity comes down the pipe next time

MinceR

via Linux and the rest

MinceR

with no quality control, or sanity

https://ircz.de/p/21031658

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Mar 23 18:39

XRevan86

MinceR: It's crazy modular so maybe the OpenBSD folk will make a back-end for it just because.

Mar 23 18:39

MinceR

actually modular or systemd/wayland "modular"?

Mar 23 18:39

XRevan86

The "alsa back-end is a library" kind of modular.

Mar 23 18:40

MinceR

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MinceR

Mar 23 18:55

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (5325810)

Mar 23 18:55

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Mar 23 18:59

techrights-bot

Links 23/3/2021: #Vulkan 1.2.173 and #GNUParallel 20210322 • 𝗧𝗲𝗰𝗵𝗿𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁𝘀 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/03/23/gnu-parallel-20210322/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/23/gnu-parallel-20210322/

Mar 23 19:05

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 23/3/2021: Vulkan 1.2.173 and GNU Parallel 20210322 | Techrights

Mar 23 19:05

techrights-bot

Today’s 𝐓𝐮𝐱 𝐌𝐚𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐞𝐬 Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149138 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines

techrights-bot

#Android Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149137 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines

techrights-bot

#Programming Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149136 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines

techrights-bot

#ProprietaryLeftovers and Security • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149135 •●• #TuxMachines

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proprietary Leftovers and Security | Tux Machines

techrights-bot

Best #Ubuntu apps of 2021 • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149134 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Best Ubuntu apps of 2021 | Tux Machines

https://img.pr0gramm.com/2021/02/15/aede7abfe9656fc9.jpg

techrights-bot

#Firefox 87 Released with Privacy Tweaks, Leaner Library Menu http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149086#comment-28746

Mar 23 19:10

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mozilla Firefox 87 Is Now Available for Download, Here’s What’s New | Tux Machines

Mar 23 19:10

techrights-bot

#Fedora Linux 34 Beta now available http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149129#comment-28745

Mar 23 19:11

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Announcing the release of Fedora Linux 34 Beta | Tux Machines

Mar 23 19:11

techrights-bot

#RichardStallman returns to the Free Software Foundation http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149083#comment-28744 #fsf #freesw

Mar 23 19:12

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Good News! Richard Stallman is Back at Free Software Foundation | Tux Machines

Mar 23 19:12

MinceR

Mar 23 19:23

techrights-ipfs

Mar 23 20:39

MinceR

https://img.pr0gramm.com/2021/02/15/419d9d8df74f0144.jpg

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MinceR

http://i.redd.it/942n7bykr4x41.jpg

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MinceR

(cat) (audio:music) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2021/02/19/f144db5692570ee2.mp4

Mar 23 22:31

techrights-bot

"The developer, Frostwood Interactive, is made up of a single person - Armaan Sandhu. The studio was founded for the development of their first game, Rainswept, which released back in 2019 and that too supported Linux." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/03/cozy-narrative-driven-adventure-game-forgotten-fields-releases-april-14

Mar 23 22:37

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cozy narrative driven adventure game Forgotten Fields releases April 14 | GamingOnLinux

Mar 23 22:37

techrights-bot

"Originally funded on Kickstarter, a campaign we seemed to entirely miss that didn't actually say it was coming to #GNU #Linux but here it is." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/03/challenging-space-survival-adventure-derelict-void-is-out-now

Mar 23 22:38

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Challenging space survival adventure Derelict Void is out now | GamingOnLinux

Mar 23 22:38

techrights-bot

#ManjaroLinux 21.0 "Ornara" Released with Linux 5.10 LTS, KDE #Plasma 5.21, and Pamac 10 • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149139 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

Mar 23 22:39

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Manjaro Linux 21.0 "Ornara" Released with Linux 5.10 LTS, KDE Plasma 5.21, and Pamac 10 | Tux Machines

Mar 23 22:39

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Mar 23 22:41

techrights-bot

#google might vomit out its anti-GPL attempt soon https://www.maketecheasier.com/googles-fuchsia-near-1st-developer-release/

Mar 23 22:46

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | Google's Fuchsia Could Be Near 1st Developer Release - Make Tech Easier

Mar 23 22:46

techrights-bot

How to install the Evolution RSS reader plugin on Linux https://www.addictivetips.com/ubuntu-linux-tips/how-to-install-the-evolution-rss-reader-plugin-on-linux/ RSS: the super special powers of the #www

Mar 23 22:48

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.addictivetips.com | How to install the Evolution RSS reader plugin on Linux

Mar 23 22:48

CrystalMath

schestowitz: the subversive elements have started another vile open letter on the microsoft platform, this time to cancel the entire FSF

Mar 23 22:52

techrights-bot

#microsoft #OSI confirms to us today that it's a weapon of #monopolies against #freesw and those who stand for software freedom. RIP, OSI (link omitted). http://techrights.org/2020/12/25/why-osi-is-defunct/

Mar 23 22:52

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | 2020 is the Year When the Open Source Initiative Became (More Officially) Defunct | Techrights

Mar 23 22:52

techrights-bot

#RMSWasRight About #OpenSource and #OSI http://techrights.org/2021/03/21/leaderless-osi/

Mar 23 22:54

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Open Source Initiative (OSI): A Boat Without a Captain | Techrights

Mar 23 22:54

techrights-bot

#OSI has nothing to say about #softwareFredom so of course it's just changing the subject http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149083#comment-2874

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Good News! Richard Stallman is Back at Free Software Foundation | Tux Machines

schestowitz

CrystalMath: yes, I know

schestowitz

CrystalMath: OSI also

schestowitz

serves to show what happened over the past 2 years

schestowitz

and what they really stand for

schestowitz

too much infiltration inside OSI

Mar 23 22:56

techrights-bot

#freesw and #copyleft might be doing very well and must have become a big and potent threat to #monopolies seeing how much trouble they'd go through to cancel the whole FSF or make it leaderless. This is concern-trolling or an overt attack on everything FSF stands for.

Mar 23 22:58

schestowitz

CrystalMath: our numbers are bigger

Mar 23 22:58

schestowitz

they are louder

Mar 23 22:58

techrights-bot

Nothing says "we support the FSF" like a letter on #ProprietarySoftware platform of #microsoft and I call it #ConcernTrolling led by you know what/who....

Mar 23 23:00

techrights-bot

#OSI just accelerates its own demise by concern-trolling the #FSF but then again OSI is already defunct so it figures, "hey... let's do something for our remaining sponsors" (the #ProprietarySoftware #monopolies get most OSI budget). OSI does not even have members of staff anymore. http://techrights.org/2021/02/05/osi-leadership/

Mar 23 23:01

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Open Source Initiative’s (OSI) Search for Leadership Might be Its Last Quest for Salvation | Techrights

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techrights-bot

Since 2019 the people who pretended to care about the #FSF (and tried to remove RMS from it) turned out, eventually, to be coyly trying to destroy the FSF and everything it stands for. And the latter point is key.

Mar 23 23:03

techrights-bot

I've been told that the actual GNU and #freesw community -- people who don't just pretend to support the #FSF -- were all very happy to learn about GNU's founder coming back to the FSF.

Mar 23 23:04

techrights-bot

A lot of people who "hate on RMS" still believe this deliberate lie, spread in #socialcontrolmedia by people who work for #ProprietarySoftware cabal (salary begets bias) http://techrights.org/2020/09/10/the-fake-door-sign/

Mar 23 23:05

techrights-bot

Reminder of what #OSI truly stands for in 2020/21: MOSTLY #microsoft (based on their budget!) http://techrights.org/2020/12/25/why-osi-is-defunct/

Mar 23 23:06

techrights-bot

#swpats https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1374422385420464130

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: If FSF should do something, is to create a broad alliance against software patents in the US, via a "bipartisan" Ti… https://t.co/zd0I2VOWK2

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: If FSF should do something, is to create a broad alliance against software patents in the US, via a "bipartisan" Ti… https://t.co/zd0I2VOWK2

techrights-bot

Latest attempt to remove #RMS shows that #microsoft #github (which is #ProprietarySoftware of course) is OK with people looking to remove him

schestowitz

CrystalMath: https://twitter.com/ingo_keck/status/1374287859830681601

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ingo_keck: @retr0virus @Senficon @octopuscitizen @fsf MS first invited him into a pro MS event and he went.… https://t.co/Ja6tSoFHZ1

schestowitz

schestowitz

MS first invited him into a pro MS event and he went. http://techrights.org/2019/09/07/rms-microsoft-trap/

schestowitz

When that was not enough to alienate the community, hit pieces were put into the media against him, using false claims and quotes cut and out of context: https://sterling-

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft’s Takedown Plot – Part II: Stallman Appears to Have Fallen Into Microsoft’s Trap | Techrights

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Could not resolve host: sterling-; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https://sterling- )

schestowitz

techrights-bot

If we learned something over the past 18 months it's that the FSF functions better with RMS than without him. So those who attack RMS at the moment basically attack the FSF as a concept. We can deduce what they hope to accomplish.

Mar 23 23:12

techrights-bot

If only RMS detractors learned how to better code, #programming and all, rather than the art of #ConcernTrolling ...

Mar 23 23:13

techrights-bot

"People said I should accept the world. Bullshit! I don't accept the world." -Richard Stallman

Mar 23 23:14

techrights-bot

#OSI is a zombie org. Whether they realise it or not, they've just signalled to #ProprietarySoftware #monopolies that they welcome more money (to be wasted on #github outsourcing!) to troll #softwareFreedom and promote monopolies

Mar 23 23:16

techrights-bot

"We support Free software, so let's nuke the FSF and the whole Board" = We support the Japanese people, so let's nuke civilians in Nagasaki and Hiroshima.

Mar 23 23:17

techrights-bot

Reminder of what #gnomeFoundation stands for (other than #IBM monopoly... the its former heads who all went to work directly for #microsoft afterwards) http://techrights.org/2021/01/12/gnome-foundation-rms/

Mar 23 23:18

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | GNOME Foundation is Still Participating in the Attack on Richard Stallman | Techrights

Mar 23 23:18

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techrights-bot

I'm most disturbed if not amused by people who accused RMS of being intolerant towards disabled/similar ("ableism"). Turns out "it's about "In 2015 and 2016 RMS made three posts on his website about Down’s syndrome."" First, they accuse him of being "autistic" (no diagnosis) and now say he's against those people; make up your minds, trolls. Self contradictory!

Mar 23 23:21

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techrights-bot

...you also get to realise that the diversity crowd is against inclusion of people with disabilities. They mock and disgrace people. Based on what they call "ableism". I think they're just angry at everyone and fail to see their own hypocrisy; rejecting their very own standards, which they're happy to impose only on others....

Mar 23 23:23

techrights-bot

A lot of the anti-RMS crusade boils down to two things: 1) jealousy and 2) the employer's salary. There's no MONEY in promoting freedom and it bothers people when they realise accumulation money isn't happiness. Universally true.

Mar 23 23:24

AVRS

When it's about the mother, they are pro-abortion, but when it's about the child, they are natalist.

techrights-bot

The defunct #OSI is so absolutely defunct is cannot even elect people for its board and it lies about #transparency (details lacking!) https://opensource.org/election_update see http://techrights.org/2021/03/21/leaderless-osi/ OSI works for #monopolies (which hijacked this whole org! Its name is MISLEADING!)

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.org | OSI Election Update: Trust and Transparency in the 2021 Board Election | Open Source Initiative

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Open Source Initiative (OSI): A Boat Without a Captain | Techrights

AVRS

While it's the child who will suffer.

AVRS

But if the child is not born, they will not be able to claim to protect it from ableism.

Mar 23 23:27

techrights-bot

Bogdan Popa is again pushing #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware EDGE (spyware) for #gnu #linux and no wonder Softpedia became defunct. Its audience is people who don't exist! http://techrights.org/2020/05/12/softpedia-change/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | ‘Team Microsoft’ Took Control of Softpedia to Control Coverage About GNU/Linux | Techrights

schestowitz

AVRS: it's about power

AVRS

If they wanted to fight ableism, they'd fight instruction manuals prohibiting the disabled from using the device

schestowitz

not logical

schestowitz

it's about removing people from power

schestowitz

unless they pay them a salary

schestowitz

they never attack those who pay the salary

AVRS

Yes, too rich and powerful to be called too rich and powerful

Mar 23 23:29

AVRS

They have an overflow

Mar 23 23:29

techrights-bot

I see more misogyny coming from the people who attack RMS than from RMS himself. Same for ableism. Carlin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asZ1R-Xylj4

Mar 23 23:30

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-George Carlin Political Correctness is fascism pretending to be Manners (archived mirrored vid) - YouTube

Mar 23 23:30

techrights-bot

Oh, I see #microsoft sites are now #googlebombing the word "LINUX" with their #ProprietarySoftware spam. Trying to put root in #GNU #Linux boxes (letting Microsoft remotely control us, see #raspi scandal) whilst also spying on our browsing. Darwin Awards for GNU/Linux users...

Mar 23 23:32

techrights-bot

Why don't the anti-RMS people try to cancel #billgates for associating and ACTIVELY protecting people who traffic THOUSANDS of underage girls for sex? Where are those so-called 'justice' warriors?

Mar 23 23:33

techrights-bot

#linuxfoundation works for #gatesfoundation (or so it seems these days) http://techrights.org/2021/02/09/no-shame-left/

Mar 23 23:34

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Foundation of Shame | Techrights

Mar 23 23:34

superkuh

Bill Gates is rich and has PR-firms to make him charismatic.

Mar 23 23:34

techrights-bot

#PCLinuxOS 2021.02 overview Promo #Shorts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLpaJH2r8jU

Mar 23 23:35

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-PCLinuxOS 2021.02 overview Promo #Shorts - YouTube

Mar 23 23:35

techrights-bot

#microsoft and #billgates -funded 'journalism' against RMS http://techrights.org/2021/03/23/still-libeling-rms/

Mar 23 23:36

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft-Connected (and Funded) Sites Still Distort What Happened and What Richard Stallman Actually Said | Techrights

Mar 23 23:36

techrights-bot

Riling up people against RMS based on LIES isn't helping women or minorities or whatnot. It's helping LIARS. http://techrights.org/2020/09/10/the-fake-door-sign/

Mar 23 23:37

techrights-bot

SPAMnil is shilling and #openwashing #microsoft again... today. You can really say who's working towards #softwareFreedom and who'e working against it, sometimes with the false (misleading) label.

Mar 23 23:38

techrights-bot

"We not only want RMS removed but all FSF board" = we are #blackmail artists. We've stopped pretending that we're giving a crap about the FSF, too. Bonus: some of us receive salaries from #ProprietarySoftware firms or got indoctrinated (misled) by those who do...

Mar 23 23:40

techrights-bot

SPAMnil also promoting #facebook #ProprietarySoftware now. #openwashing #monopolies is the business model of many in the "Open Source" crowd. #MONOPOLIES are their PREMIUM customers. Nothing says ethics and sharing... like #monopoly

Mar 23 23:41

techrights-bot

If I omit some links here and there, it is to prevent giving an audience to intentional falsehoods, AKA "lies". We've run out of media integrity and during #covid19 some people are so desperate for money as the mind rots away. Some turn to cults like #qanon and others try to cancel whoever oligarchs tell them to.

Mar 23 23:43

techrights-bot

MIA: people who say they care about women http://techrights.org/2020/09/28/non-denying-and-false-denials/

Mar 23 23:44

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Speaking Through Spokespeople is a Sign of Weakness, Such as Non-Denying and False Denials (or: Bill Gates Never Denied His Connections to MIT Through Jeffrey Epstein) | Techrights

Mar 23 23:44

techrights-bot

Anti-RMS mob never cared about any of this. Never. http://techrights.org/2020/08/16/bill-gates-jeffrey-epstein-and-rick-allen-jones/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | What is Known for a Fact (Not Speculation) About Bill Gates, Jeffrey Epstein, and Rick Allen Jones | Techrights

techrights-bot

2020: The Original Document That Shows ’Executor’ (of the Will) of #JeffreyEpstein is Very Close Associate of #BillGates • 𝗧𝗲𝗰𝗵𝗿𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁𝘀 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2020/08/19/jeffrey-epstein-will-and-death/ http://schestowitz.com/2021/03/23/#latest

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Original Document That Shows ‘Executor’ (of the Will) of Jeffrey Epstein is Very Close Associate of Bill Gates | Techrights

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts