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DaemonFCI don't have any Horse Pepsi, but I have a Horse Coke.Mar 29 00:19
MinceRHorse Choke?Mar 29 00:19
DaemonFCFor some reason, when people see it, they say NAAAAAAAAY!!!Mar 29 00:20
MinceR:>Mar 29 00:21
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DaemonFCMicrosoft 365 ads on Tubi. LOLMar 29 00:57
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DaemonFCI've switched mainly to instant coffee recently.Mar 29 01:21
DaemonFCMost of the regular coffee is up about 40% and they didn't do that to instant yet, and there were good rebates too lately, so looks like that's what I'll have for a while.Mar 29 01:22
activelowbe careful with it, instant coffee overdosed on an empty stomach... this is what i had this morningMar 29 01:22
activelowrediscovered a traditional german cuisine, which is cooked white cabbage, then mildly roasted grinded meat mixed into, spiced with cumarin and salt, with lots of margarineMar 29 01:25
activelowkept german farmers alive for hundreds of years, easy on the stomach, nutritios, and best of it only natural flavorsMar 29 01:25
activelowwhite cabbage contains some mustord oils, which together with cumarin adds a delicate taste to itMar 29 01:26
activelowand, it is cheap, a pot with a half head of cabbage, 800grams of grinded meat, and margarine, for ~5Euros, and lasts three days, together with breadMar 29 01:27
MinceRthey had margarine for hundreds of years?Mar 29 01:28
activelowyes, Napoleon Bonaparte introduced margarine; and traditional pig breeds contained more fat than todayMar 29 01:29
activelowi prefer margarine, easier on stomach, and contains some vitamin-dMar 29 01:29
MinceRthat was 153 years ago, i wasn't sure if that's "hundreds" :>Mar 29 01:31
activelowsure, my grandparents used pork bacon insteadMar 29 01:32
activelowanother delicate farmers meal, green cabbage (wirsing) with pork; although this takes too long to prepareMar 29 01:33
activelowafter eating grinded meat with paprika cream for month, gladly i rediscovered "Schichtkohl"Mar 29 01:34
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DaemonFCFarmers ate some pretty heavy stuff back in the day.Mar 29 02:00
DaemonFCI hear that rice is very expensive in Japan because of protectionist laws.Mar 29 02:01
DaemonFCPerhaps 40% higher than it would otherwise cost.Mar 29 02:01
DaemonFCAnyway, they eat a ton of it and most of them live to old age.Mar 29 02:02
DaemonFCThe doctors here all tell us don't eat rice.Mar 29 02:02
activelowmost of my grandparents reached 90years+; although eating what doctors typically advice not toMar 29 02:03
activelowyet, i am smoking cigarettes, they didn'tMar 29 02:03
activelowthe east-german cuisine was better quality anyway, in comparison to the western oneMar 29 02:04
activeloworanges, bananas and other tropical fruit weren't available, nonetheless there was many varieties availableMar 29 02:05
AdmFubardon't eat domestic riceMar 29 02:06
activelowthe strawberries from the garden were the best, smaller in size, harvested when ripe and sweet, and a different variety than what is sold in supermarketsMar 29 02:07
activelowand a special type of berry, similar to wine, which i think was the berry wine derived from by selective breeding; grown in every gardenMar 29 02:09
AdmFubar???Mar 29 02:15
activelowsorry, mind slipped into the pastMar 29 02:16
AdmFubarI'm wondering what is a berry that is similar to wine...Mar 29 02:17
activelowStachelbeereMar 29 02:17
AdmFubarsure they are "insolvent"  now.. yeah yeah that's the ticket  https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-03-28/spyware-vendor-finfisher-claims-insolvency-amid-investigationMar 29 02:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bloomberg - Are you a robot?Mar 29 02:18
AdmFubar:P gooseberries...Mar 29 02:18
AdmFubarbloomberg site sounds like Shpongle lyrics...Mar 29 02:26
activelowFinFisher renamed to Vilicious Holding GmbH recently; it's probably a shell company of the government anyway, for accounting purposes, camouflaging as a private business entity to source staffMar 29 02:31
activelowdon't think ministry of the interior would directly appear as business entity on "labor market" and similarMar 29 02:32
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activelowmistake, it isn't cumarin, it is caraway added to white cabbageMar 29 03:39
AdmFubaroh... just where will this go.....    https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/new-windows-security-feature-blocks-vulnerable-drivers/Mar 29 03:41
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bleepingcomputer.com | New Windows security feature blocks vulnerable driversMar 29 03:41
AdmFubarcumarin?  perhaps you mean cumin?Mar 29 03:42
MinceRfuranocoumarinMar 29 03:43
AdmFubarI need to stay away from that stuff....Mar 29 03:46
MinceR:>Mar 29 03:47
activelowKümmelMar 29 03:54
activelowproblem with Kraut (cabbage) is digestion if Kümmel isn't addedMar 29 03:56
activelowcaraway combined with mustard (sharp and sour radish oils) is delicateMar 29 03:56
activelowalways wondered, when Mc Donalds arrived in East-Germany they, the Muricans, don't know how to prepare meat with spicesMar 29 03:57
activelowthey're only adding sweetened sauce to it; and the price; for 5Euros i can prepare a pot of cabbage and grinded meat which lasts three daysMar 29 03:59
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techrights-news#Techrights Bulletin for Monday, March 28, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintextMar 29 05:50
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techrights-newspuppylinux.com is down (PuppyLinux outsourced to Microsoft, Microsoft suspends site of GNU/Linux distro) • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163093Mar 29 05:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | puppylinux.com is down (PuppyLinux outsourced to Microsoft, Microsoft suspends site of GNU/Linux distro) | Tux MachinesMar 29 05:55
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techrights-newsLibrePlanet 2022 Talk on Free Software in the French Public Administration | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/03/29/free-software-france/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/29/free-software-france/Mar 29 06:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | LibrePlanet 2022 Talk on Free Software in the French Public Administration | TechrightsMar 29 06:09
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AdmFubarhttp://lxer.com/module/newswire/ext_link.php?rid=313215Mar 29 06:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | GitHub explains reasons behind the past week's outages • The RegisterMar 29 06:15
techrights-news"Between 2022-03-22 and 2022-03-29 there were 20 New Steam games released with Native Linux clients. For reference, during the same time, there were 217 games released for Windows on Steam, so the Linux versions represent about 9.2 % of total released titles." https://boilingsteam.com/new-steam-games-native-linux-clients-2022-03-29/Mar 29 06:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boilingsteam.com | New Steam Games with Native Linux Clients - 2022-03-29 Edition - Boiling SteamMar 29 06:15
techrights-newsGulag kills what it buys, including RSS https://etbe.coker.com.au/2022/03/29/feedburner-dying/Mar 29 06:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-etbe.coker.com.au | Feedburner Seems to be Dying « etbe - Russell CokerMar 29 06:17
schestowitz-TRAdmFubar: blame "open source"Mar 29 06:19
schestowitz-TRAdmFubar: microsoft: github is proprietareyMar 29 06:19
schestowitz-TRit's downMar 29 06:19
schestowitz-TRit's nto github's faultMar 29 06:19
schestowitz-TRblame some open source somethingMar 29 06:19
schestowitz-TRthe criminals from Microsoft show their true selvesMar 29 06:19
AdmFubarroy... chill out and have a laugh at their expense ;)Mar 29 06:21
techrights-newsThis past 1-2 weeks lots of sites which had foolishly outsourced to clownflare lost all their visitors. Esp. those who used RSS feeds. RSS readers don't do JavaScript.Mar 29 06:21
schestowitz-TRAdmFubar:  [05:55] <techrights-news> puppylinux.com is down (PuppyLinux outsourced to Microsoft, Microsoft suspends site of GNU/Linux distro) • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163093Mar 29 06:22
schestowitz-TRwe need to stop the outsourcingMar 29 06:22
schestowitz-TRit's an attack not just on software freedomMar 29 06:22
techrights-newsSite "linuxsecurity" continues linking to Linux FUD https://linuxsecurity.com/news/security-trends/some-developers-are-fouling-up-open-source-software Microsoft shipping malware is not an "open source" issue; the media spins it a lotMar 29 06:23
-altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: linuxsecurity.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxsecurity.com/news/security-trends/some-developers-are-fouling-up-open-source-softwareMar 29 06:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Some developers are fouling up open-source software | LinuxSecurity...Mar 29 06:23
techrights-newsxkcd: Spacecraft Debris Odds Ratio ⚓ https://xkcd.com/2599/ ䷉ Source: xkcdMar 29 06:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xkcd: Spacecraft Debris Odds RatioMar 29 06:24
-altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: xkcd.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://xkcd.com/2599/Mar 29 06:24
techrights-news“This talk is titled “From GNU Emacs to code.gouv.fr,” and was presented at LibrePlanet 2022 by Bastien Guerry. Bastien is the free software officer for the French public administration" http://techrights.org/2022/03/29/free-software-france/Mar 29 06:24
AdmFubarexcuses excuses  https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/insiders-say-apple-is-reducing-production-because-of-inflationMar 29 06:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apple reportedly slashing iPhone production on weak demand - ProtocolMar 29 06:26
schestowitz-TRno noMar 29 06:26
schestowitz-TRwait, it's trueMar 29 06:26
schestowitz-TRbut not in the way they put itMar 29 06:27
schestowitz-TRthere's inflationMar 29 06:27
schestowitz-TRbased on lies partlyMar 29 06:27
schestowitz-TRso people spend lessMar 29 06:27
schestowitz-TRthey cannot spend moreMar 29 06:27
schestowitz-TRand they go,Mar 29 06:27
schestowitz-TR"hang on a second"Mar 29 06:27
schestowitz-TR"why do we spent so much money on this Apple junk?"Mar 29 06:27
schestowitz-TR"we could get cheaper equipmentMar 29 06:27
AdmFubarremember this? https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/apple-retention-grantsMar 29 06:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apple is doling out $200,000 'retention grants' to keep people from leaving - ProtocolMar 29 06:27
schestowitz-TRso apple sales are downMar 29 06:27
schestowitz-TRapple: it's inflation's faultMar 29 06:28
schestowitz-TRyes, trueMar 29 06:28
schestowitz-TRmaybe lower your pricing threefoldMar 29 06:28
AdmFubarhard to biuld em when you don't have staffMar 29 06:28
schestowitz-TRyes, I saw the retention grantsMar 29 06:28
schestowitz-TR2 days agiMar 29 06:28
schestowitz-TRthat's not good for workersMar 29 06:29
schestowitz-TRless work/employer mobility means they fix the salaries lowerMar 29 06:29
techrights-newsIn this weakening/collapsing economy it is hardly surprising that demand for Apple's junk has plunged. Last year they stunned shareholders. Bubble of a company...Mar 29 06:30
techrights-newsWho sponsors Phoronix? Not the reader. New photo: https://www.phoronix.com/image-viewer.php?id=2022&image=too_much_nvme_lrgMar 29 06:32
-altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: phoronix.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/image-viewer.php?id=2022&image=too_much_nvme_lrgMar 29 06:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-[Phoronix] Image (Too Much Nvme)Mar 29 06:32
schestowitz-TRpsydruid: ^^^^Mar 29 06:32
schestowitz-TRhow much on ebay?Mar 29 06:33
techrights-newsI should actually be glad that many sites suffered this past week for outsourcing to Microsoft GitHub and Clownflare, but I cannot reach them. Some of them are sites I like. Maybe lessons learned?Mar 29 06:34
techrights-news"The Mars helicopter continues to excel, Linux arrives on M1 Macs, Canonical’s hiring methods cause a stink, Graham eats his words about MDM, KDE korner, and more." https://latenightlinux.com/late-night-linux-episode-170/Mar 29 06:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-latenightlinux.com | Late Night Linux – Episode 170 – Late Night LinuxMar 29 06:35
psydruida few thousand, this isn't comparable to AMD's EPYC line of CPUsMar 29 06:36
schestowitz-TRok, thanksMar 29 06:36
schestowitz-TRnot so many amphere articles in phoronixMar 29 06:37
schestowitz-TRthey need to shell out moreMar 29 06:38
schestowitz-TRto compete with IntelMDMar 29 06:38
schestowitz-TRGold-plated CPUsMar 29 06:38
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psydruidAmpere recently incurred a loss as reported in Oracle's filingMar 29 06:40
techrights-newsFirmus Superclown sets a new standard for sustainable clown computing with Canonical’s open infrastructure | Ubuntu ⚓ https://ubuntu.com//blog/firmus-supercloud-sets-a-new-standard-for-sustainable-cloud-computing-with-canonicals-open-infrastructure ䷉ Source: ubuntuMar 29 06:40
-altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: ubuntu.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ubuntu.com//blog/firmus-supercloud-sets-a-new-standard-for-sustainable-cloud-computing-with-canonicals-open-infrastructureMar 29 06:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Firmus Supercloud sets a new standard for sustainable cloud computing with Canonical’s open infrastructure | UbuntuMar 29 06:40
psydruidOracle owns a significant share in AmpereMar 29 06:40
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schestowitz-TRpsydruid: seems most US companies operate at a lossMar 29 06:40
schestowitz-TRthere are some categoriesMar 29 06:40
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schestowitz-TRcompanies that admit they loseMar 29 06:41
schestowitz-TRcompanies they pretend they don't loseMar 29 06:41
psydruidAmpere is working on its next generation of processorsMar 29 06:41
schestowitz-TRcompanies that say the losses are temporary ("KEEP INVESTING!!")Mar 29 06:41
psydruidyesMar 29 06:41
schestowitz-TRcompanies that SOMETIMES do not lose (easy to fake this)Mar 29 06:41
schestowitz-TRcompanies that make a profitMar 29 06:41
psydruidhttps://www.extremetech.com/computing/333137-rumor-amds-zen-4-flagship-to-offer-32-threads-170w-tdpMar 29 06:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Rumor: AMD's Zen 4 Flagship to Offer 32 Threads, 170W TDP - ExtremeTechMar 29 06:41
schestowitz-TRthat last one is few well known brandsMar 29 06:41
schestowitz-TRpsydruid: it's like running a low-end vacuum cleaneerMar 29 06:42
psydruidbut you read things like this and start wondering if that is where computing should be headedMar 29 06:42
schestowitz-TR24/7Mar 29 06:42
psydruidthe answer is obviously noMar 29 06:42
schestowitz-TRmany cores will be idle most of the timeMar 29 06:43
techrights-news[GIT PULL] erofs updates for 5.18-rc1 - Gao Xiang ⚓ https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/YjgtIqJK0Io+zYeI@debian/ ䷉ Source: Debian | GNU | Linux | FreeSWMar 29 06:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lore.kernel.org | [GIT PULL] erofs updates for 5.18-rc1 - Gao XiangMar 29 06:43
psydruidmy take on it is that if it isn't doing work, it should be powered offMar 29 06:44
psydruidespecially with such high power consumptionMar 29 06:44
techrights-news10 Websites to Find Creative Commons Videos - Make Tech Easier ⚓ https://www.maketecheasier.com/5-websites-find-creative-commons-videos/ ䷉ Source: maketecheasierMar 29 06:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | 10 Websites to Find Creative Commons Videos - Make Tech EasierMar 29 06:44
schestowitz-TRpsydruid: 32 threadsMar 29 06:45
schestowitz-TRimagine leaving the vacuum cleaner on all the timeMar 29 06:45
schestowitz-TRbecause you might need it later for a couple minsMar 29 06:45
schestowitz-TRlike, to compile a kernelMar 29 06:45
psydruidyeahMar 29 06:45
schestowitz-TRsome people like linus buy these or get sent thisMar 29 06:45
schestowitz-TRhow many times a day does he even compile his program?Mar 29 06:46
schestowitz-TRmaybe 1-5 times?Mar 29 06:46
schestowitz-TRwhen doing gtk development I'd compile in the background while still writing more codeMar 29 06:46
schestowitz-TRso there's overlapMar 29 06:46
schestowitz-TRmy new laptop has only 2 coresMar 29 06:46
psydruidat some point the returns are diminishingMar 29 06:47
schestowitz-TRthe screens (9 of them) are dimming down when not usedMar 29 06:47
schestowitz-TRor not accessedMar 29 06:47
psydruidand you start wondering if you aren't solving the wrong problemMar 29 06:47
psydruidor the problem in the wrong wayMar 29 06:47
schestowitz-TRso it's maybe 100w territories on averageMar 29 06:48
psydruidreferring to the work done by activelowMar 29 06:48
schestowitz-TRpsydruid: maybe they don't solve a problem Mar 29 06:48
schestowitz-TRbut create a problemMar 29 06:48
schestowitz-TRimagine this CPU having defects or issues after warranty expiresMar 29 06:48
schestowitz-TRwhat next?Mar 29 06:49
schestowitz-TRCPU insurance?Mar 29 06:49
schestowitz-TRCurrys/PCWorld: would you like 5-year insurance for this CPU?Mar 29 06:49
psydruidit's a great way to upsell servicesMar 29 06:49
schestowitz-TRIt's only $500 for 5 years! It's a bargainMar 29 06:49
schestowitz-TRyou could buy 3 laptops for that feeMar 29 06:49
psydruidbut I think it will backfire in a huge way they aren't even expectingMar 29 06:49
schestowitzhttps://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Google-Linux-Too-Many-NVMeMar 29 06:50
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psydruidI'd rather have cheap CPUs I can replace when brokenMar 29 06:50
schestowitzcontext ^Mar 29 06:50
schestowitzmy failing NVMe "disk" is why I needed to buy another machineMar 29 06:50
psydruidhence I've never spent that much on oneMar 29 06:50
schestowitzit's not a totally dead NVMe but failingMar 29 06:50
schestowitzdata is not safe on it anymoreMar 29 06:50
psydruidI've never had that happen to meMar 29 06:51
schestowitzAvailable Spare:                    100%Mar 29 06:51
schestowitzAvailable Spare Threshold:          5%Mar 29 06:51
schestowitzPercentage Used:                    113%Mar 29 06:51
schestowitz113% basically says "Expired"Mar 29 06:51
schestowitz"Roy, you've used this disk too much"Mar 29 06:51
schestowitz"time to buy a new one"Mar 29 06:51
psydruidwhy does it have so many writes?Mar 29 06:51
schestowitzData Units Read:                    82,613,708 [42.2 TB]Mar 29 06:52
schestowitzData Units Written:                 169,462,269 [86.7 TB]Mar 29 06:52
schestowitzHost Read Commands:                 2,039,769,994Mar 29 06:52
schestowitzHost Write Commands:                1,736,870,461Mar 29 06:52
schestowitzmaybe all the video encodingMar 29 06:52
psydruida case can be made for using hard drives for thoseMar 29 06:52
schestowitzyeahMar 29 06:53
schestowitzbut it is a lot slowerMar 29 06:53
schestowitzI installed webcamoid on machine with magnetic diskMar 29 06:53
schestowitzbut I'm sure it's too weak to process 3-hour videos in two passesMar 29 06:53
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schestowitzthen there's ipfs on microsdMar 29 06:54
schestowitzthat too isn't too healthyMar 29 06:54
schestowitzit does a ton of workMar 29 06:54
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psydruidthere are enterprise SSDs, but those are much more expensiveMar 29 06:54
schestowitzApple is killing its own product line https://9to5mac.com/2022/03/28/cider-is-an-alternative-apple-music-desktop-client-with-features-missing-in-itunes/Mar 29 06:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cider is an alternative Apple Music client for Windows and Linux - 9to5MacMar 29 06:55
schestowitzmaybe they reckon there's more money in DRM/streaming Mar 29 06:55
psydruidApple has wanted to go more into servicesMar 29 06:56
psydruidbut they need a crappy OS for that, just like MicrosoftMar 29 06:56
techrights-news"A decent paying job I could do until I reach my golden years. But then something happened. It was another one of those pesky birthdays. In the eyes of someone in management, I no longer fit in anymore. I somehow became the odd man out." http://www.ericmhuffman.com/2022/03/it-used-to-be-something-fun.htmlMar 29 06:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ericmhuffman.com | My Personal Blog: It Used To Be Something FunMar 29 06:57
psydruidthere isn't room for them to pretend anymore, it's all about lock-in through applications and services nowMar 29 06:58
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techrights-newsLLVM still in bed with Microsoft criminals I see... https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=LLVM-Starts-DX-HLSL-Code-LandMar 29 06:59
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schestowitzpsydruid: http://www.allgov.com/news/top-stories/cia-strategy-collect-all-data-and-keep-it-forever-130325?news=849534Mar 29 07:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Top Stories - CIA Strategy: Collect All Data and Keep it Forever - AllGov - NewsMar 29 07:00
schestowitzgive Microsoft bailoutMar 29 07:00
schestowitzfrom military budgetMar 29 07:00
schestowitzget something in returnMar 29 07:00
techrights-newsMicrosoft: we need to be BAILED OUT by the Pentagon (taxpayers' money) so that we can bribe officials -- with US TAX MONEY -- all around the world http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/Mar 29 07:01
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techrights-newsBest Programming Languages to Learn in 2022 ⚓ https://linuxhint.com/best_programming_languages_2022/ ䷉ Source: LinuxHint | GNU | Linux | FreeSW 🐧Mar 29 07:02
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psydruidI wonder how deeply they have managed to infiltrate the free software stack, because I don't believe everything is getting audited and scrutinised anymoreMar 29 07:04
psydruidreferring to things like systemdMar 29 07:05
psydruidor the kernelMar 29 07:06
techrights-newsZoë Kooyman’s First Keynote as Free Software Foundation (FSF) Executive Director | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/03/29/zoe-kooyman-keynote/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/29/zoe-kooyman-keynote/Mar 29 07:09
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techrights-newshowtoforge and linuxcapable became invisible or inaccessible due to their outsourcing to clownflare. I wonder if they're even aware what a colossal error they've made! This is web suicide!Mar 29 07:11
techrights-newsnetflix: we turn the internet into a souped up mesh of DRM. clownflare: we outsource web traffic to the US. facebook: we spy on people's personal lives. 'Dating' apps and similar: we build a database of people's sex life. Amazon: middleman for China's sweatshops. And so on... (Microsoft: we bribe everyone everywhere)Mar 29 07:15
techrights-newsZemlin PAC as front group of Mark Zuckerberg; he pays them for reputation laundering. https://linuxfoundation.org/featured/mlh-fellowship-opens-applications-production-engineering-scholarships/Mar 29 07:16
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techrights-newsLinux Foundation is an inherently racist organisation. Hence they make a lot of noise (to distract from it, to cause confusion).Mar 29 07:17
AdmFubarhttps://www.theregister.com/2022/03/28/ai_fake_linkedin_faces/Mar 29 07:20
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techrights-newsPeople don’t like GNOME 42’s inconsistent themes • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163094Mar 29 07:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | People don't like GNOME 42's inconsistent themes | Tux MachinesMar 29 07:28
techrights-newsFujitsu Lifebook T725 with openSUSE • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163095Mar 29 07:28
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techrights-newsToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163096Mar 29 07:28
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techrights-newsChrome = back door https://www.itechpost.com/articles/109754/20220328/update-google-chrome-download-security-computer-android.htmMar 29 07:29
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AdmFubarhhhmmm someone sounds desperate  https://www.windowscentral.com/snag-cheap-xbox-series-x-microsofts-new-refurbished-consolesMar 29 07:30
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techrights-newsUbuntu: Conky, Ubuntu News, and Firmus • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163097Mar 29 07:30
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mateyactivelow: i dont think mcdonalds is in any way indicative of american food in general. there is some overlap.Mar 29 07:32
mateythe constant addition of sugar to condiments is an industrial maneuver, and mcdonalds takes it even farther. go to a cookout and theres a higher ratio of meat to sugar flavourMar 29 07:32
mateyreal restaurants lean on sugar less. eating sugar makes you hungry, and companies know this and abuse it.Mar 29 07:33
mateyof course they still serve coca cola.Mar 29 07:33
mateyi think burger king tries to distinguish themselves with a saltier taste. when youre working with processed leftovers additives are the primary culinary weaponMar 29 07:36
mateythe chips at kfc in the uk are naturally better than the american ones. theyre not as good as real chips, just a small step in that directionMar 29 07:36
mateyin the 80s, wendys had the worst chips on earth. you probably had better odds getting frozen ones, letting them thaw until they became a health risk, and then microwaving them. i hear theyve gotten better since.Mar 29 07:40
mateyyou cant reheat mcdonalds chips. whatever gives them their flavour is extremely volatile and evaporates into thin air within 8 minutes. if it lasted a little longer, the cia could use it to pass secret messages.Mar 29 07:41
mateythe most reliable way to get proper chips in america is to make them at home. there is a not-too-remote possibility of losing half your kitchen this wayMar 29 07:50
mateya safer alternative is just to mash potatoes and add cheese to themMar 29 07:51
mateyid joke about how in the future, drm will bring the restaurant industry to its knees when commercial fryers stop working reliably, but we are already there with mcdonalds shake machinesMar 29 07:56
matey"sorry, we cant make anything, fryers are down"Mar 29 07:57
matey"again?"Mar 29 07:57
mateyi think some industries are just bored and trying to see if they can taunt people into a revolution for shits and gigglesMar 29 07:58
techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▂▆▁▁▅▁▂▃▁▅▇▆▁▂▁▆▇▇█▂▂▄▅▂▁▃▅▃▇▆▁▆▁ avg(k/sec) 46.90 ▕  IPFS upstream: █▂█▁▃▂▁██▁▃▂██▂▂▁▂█▁▂▁▁▂██▁▁█▁▂▂█▂▁ avg(k/sec) 95.25▕ swarm size (avg): 300.73  ⟲Mar 29 07:59
mateylike when jim was so done trying to top his own pranks on the office that he got dwight to make himself his own assistantMar 29 08:01
Ariadnethe cat and the bun are in a staring contestMar 29 08:04
matey"im cuter." "fuck you, ive got more followers are on instagram."Mar 29 08:08
schestowitz-TRmatey: I was trying to 'find' youMar 29 08:31
schestowitz-TRdid you see the puppy news?Mar 29 08:31
schestowitz-TRhttp://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163093Mar 29 08:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | puppylinux.com is down (PuppyLinux outsourced to Microsoft, Microsoft suspends site of GNU/Linux distro) | Tux MachinesMar 29 08:32
schestowitz-TRoh, dear, barry...Mar 29 08:33
schestowitz-TRif only somehow cautioned you...Mar 29 08:33
techrights-news"This week’s episode of Destination Linux, we’re going to be talking about running open source on your mobile device." https://destinationlinux.org/episode-271/Mar 29 08:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-destinationlinux.org | 271: GNOME 42 & Our Open Source Android App Picks - Destination LinuxMar 29 08:34
mateygiven that i have paid almost zero attention to easyos, which is most likely githubbased as wellMar 29 08:34
mateypuppy itself is entirely in the hands of a community that felt its impractical to migrate, so theyre stuck with itMar 29 08:35
mateymy own distro came out of a project to experiment with rebooting a fully-libre version of puppyMar 29 08:35
mateythis was before the github purchaseMar 29 08:36
mateythere is at least one puppy derivative that steers clear of github, though i believe it is 64-bit x86 only and i have no use for thatMar 29 08:37
schestowitz-TRfatdog?Mar 29 08:37
mateymaybe that oneMar 29 08:37
schestowitz-TRno released in agesMar 29 08:37
schestowitz-TRsame for black lab linuxMar 29 08:38
mateyhere are two bigger problems for puppyMar 29 08:38
schestowitz-TRdoes Easy use Woof?Mar 29 08:38
mateythey lost john murga a while ago, he hosted the forum that had most of the history of puppyMar 29 08:38
schestowitz-TRI had puppy on a machine of mine, brieflyMar 29 08:38
schestowitz-TRreplaced it with DebianMar 29 08:38
mateythe forums are goneMar 29 08:38
mateyi couldnt use puppy as-is, too many gripes about itMar 29 08:39
mateyyoud consider some of them privacy issuesMar 29 08:39
mateyi fixed those Mar 29 08:39
schestowitz-TRgoodMar 29 08:39
mateybut only in the version i worked onMar 29 08:39
mateyi did it to encourage others to consider doing the sameMar 29 08:40
techrights-newsRM500U-CN Raspberry Pi 5G HAT kit sells for under $200... for the Chinese market • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163098Mar 29 08:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | RM500U-CN Raspberry Pi 5G HAT kit sells for under $200... for the Chinese market | Tux MachinesMar 29 08:40
mateyso the forums are gone, and with them most of the information about puppyMar 29 08:40
schestowitz-TRis barry upset at you?Mar 29 08:40
mateyi dont think barry knows i existMar 29 08:40
schestowitz-TRafter the confrontation over github?Mar 29 08:40
schestowitz-TRiirc, they banned you from their forums for itMar 29 08:41
mateyno, youre thinking of something elseMar 29 08:41
schestowitz-TRokl;Mar 29 08:41
schestowitz-TRmaybe another distroMar 29 08:41
mateyanother forumMar 29 08:41
schestowitz-TR a MATE-y based distroMar 29 08:41
mateyno i wouldnt bother with mate Mar 29 08:42
mateyalso githubMar 29 08:42
mateythough still the best version of gnome, fwiwMar 29 08:42
schestowitz-TRcinnamon sameMar 29 08:42
schestowitz-TRthis predates Microsoft criminals owning itMar 29 08:42
schestowitz-TRafaikMar 29 08:42
mateyi believe so yesMar 29 08:42
schestowitz-TRso more forgivableMar 29 08:42
mateysure but they need to moveMar 29 08:42
schestowitz-TRmoving away from such a LOCK-IN engine is not easyMar 29 08:42
mateyno, thats exactly why people should moveMar 29 08:42
schestowitz-TR"but I have my CDs at the back of his truck!!'Mar 29 08:43
mateyso trueMar 29 08:43
mateythe biggest problem with puppy is thisMar 29 08:43
mateybarry is-- a talented coder...Mar 29 08:44
schestowitz-TRCDS = GitHub(TM) Issues(R)Mar 29 08:44
mateyhe did a lot of work that you could call great if you wanted toMar 29 08:44
mateyhe inspired a lot of peopleMar 29 08:44
mateyi learned a lot of first-time gnu/linux stuff on puppyMar 29 08:44
mateyit used to be one of the fastest things you could run on older stuffMar 29 08:44
mateyi still make some decisions on what software to use based on my early experiences with puppyMar 29 08:45
mateybut...Mar 29 08:45
mateyits all a giant mess of bash scripts, or other shell scriptsMar 29 08:46
mateywhich makes it future proof in a way-- i mean, theyre not likely to make them stop workingMar 29 08:46
mateytheyre just impossible to clean up and maintainMar 29 08:46
schestowitz-TRyes, that's why I do bash a lotMar 29 08:46
schestowitz-TRbut wayland threatens my x-centric stuffMar 29 08:46
mateyso basically theyve been doing a firefox on woof for yearsMar 29 08:46
mateyand the progress theyve made seems reactos-likeMar 29 08:47
mateyit will take foreverMar 29 08:47
mateymozilla had to be rewritten, it took yearsMar 29 08:47
schestowitz-TRfirefox on woof, meaning..?Mar 29 08:47
mateybut these are hobbyistsMar 29 08:47
schestowitz-TRbtw, today's browsers take AGGGGESSS to buildMar 29 08:48
mateymeaning theyre trying to redo all of it in a clean way-- i dont blame them Mar 29 08:48
mateyheres what that does to the community thoughMar 29 08:48
mateythe community throws up its hands, says woof is too hard to useMar 29 08:48
mateysimply goes about remastering insteadMar 29 08:48
mateysomeone will use woof to puppyfy the latest ubuntu or slaxkMar 29 08:48
mateyslack, then the rest of it goes from thereMar 29 08:49
mateywoof is a labour of love i suppose-- hard labourMar 29 08:49
techrights-news"The expression "Second Brain" has been popularized by Tiago Forte, who's been running an online cohort-based class called Building a Second Brain I took the class last year and found it a powerful distillation of an approach to PKM and note-taking." http://thomas.apestaart.org/log/?p=1659Mar 29 08:49
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mateybarry isnt really involved with itMar 29 08:49
mateyhe wanted to move on and does easyosMar 29 08:49
techrights-newsPatents "offered" https://businesstech.co.za/news/trending/572018/covid-booster-shot-will-be-offered-to-health-workers-in-south-africa/Mar 29 08:50
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mateyi dont know much about it-- something like packages are containers but its a lightweight distroMar 29 08:50
mateysince i dont use the linux kernel its of no use to meMar 29 08:50
schestowitz-TRjails?Mar 29 08:50
mateyyoud think i would know a lot about jails by nowMar 29 08:51
Ariadnematey: what is your kernel of choiceMar 29 08:51
techrights-newsAudiocasts/Shows/Videos: Destination Linux, Late Night Linux, and More • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163099Mar 29 08:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Audiocasts/Shows/Videos: Destination Linux, Late Night Linux, and More | Tux MachinesMar 29 08:51
mateyariadne: openbsd-- but im not married to it, its still seriousMar 29 08:51
mateydefinitely a live in couple arrangementMar 29 08:51
Ariadnei mean, outside of alpine, openbsd is my OS of choiceMar 29 08:52
schestowitz-TRopenbsd has gemini clients in the reposMar 29 08:52
schestowitz-TRunlike debianMar 29 08:52
schestowitz-TRunlike ubuntuMar 29 08:52
mateyopenbsd has its own gemini server (obviously not on installation, you can pkg_add it)Mar 29 08:52
mateybut its written specifically for openbsd, using native features (to reduce the need for maintaining code)Mar 29 08:53
mateyits called vgerMar 29 08:53
techrights-news"I hope you could help me to learn how to live the gemini way and maybe we'll become fellow rhum drinkers !" gemini://midnight.pub/posts/863Mar 29 08:53
schestowitz-TRi know vgerMar 29 08:53
mateybut part of the reason i dont know much about bsd jails isMar 29 08:54
mateythe super-neat security feature of openbsd is pledgeMar 29 08:54
mateyand what it does (not an entirely new idea at all, only some aspects of the approach) is reduces access to the kernel Mar 29 08:55
schestowitz-TRbetter than Windows Defender? :pMar 29 08:55
mateyi mean a bucket of water balloons is better than windows defenderMar 29 08:55
*schestowitz-TR checks when vger was last releasedMar 29 08:55
schestowitz-TRvger might get bloated with featuresMar 29 08:55
mateythat is incredibly unlikelyMar 29 08:55
mateyits like saying a unicycle might get bloated with featuresMar 29 08:56
mateythe entire philosophy of vger is not to write anything that is already available in openbsd nativelyMar 29 08:56
mateyincluding parts of the server itselfMar 29 08:56
schestowitzlast change 2 months ago https://tildegit.org/solene/vgerMar 29 08:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tildegit.org | solene/vger: gemini server written in C used with inetd - vger - tildegitMar 29 08:57
schestowitzhttps://tildegit.org/solene/vgerMar 29 08:57
schestowitzhttps://dataswamp.org/~solene/2020-11-30-gemini-vger-server.htmlMar 29 08:57
mateyyou could compare it to clip on sunglasses-- they dont even have temples, they go on existing glassesMar 29 08:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dataswamp.org | Solene'% : How to deploy Vger gemini server on OpenBSDMar 29 08:57
mateybut in general openbsd has a culture of not adding useless crap (unless its for security research)Mar 29 08:58
schestowitziirc, solene said she had coded it in 100 or 200 LOCsMar 29 08:58
mateyyeah because its only part of a server in the first placeMar 29 08:58
schestowitzmatey: so it's like sucklessMar 29 08:58
mateyit has some things in common with sucklessMar 29 08:58
techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▁▄▅▃▂▇▄▅▂▄▅▅▁▄█▂▃▆▅▆▅▆▆▁▆▁▂▂▂▁▅█▃▃▁ avg(k/sec) 33.48 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▁▂▂▁▁▂▂▁▁▂▁▃▁█▂▃▂▂█▂▂█▂▁▄▂▁▂█▂▂▁ avg(k/sec) 74.85▕ swarm size (avg): 242.41  ⟲Mar 29 08:59
mateysuckless eschews more than openbsd doesMar 29 08:59
mateyfor example, when they created pledge, the thing they really wanted to try it on was firefoxMar 29 08:59
mateywhy firefox?Mar 29 08:59
schestowitzblowfish sucklessMar 29 08:59
mateybecause firefox was one of the biggest messes they could think of that lots of people useMar 29 08:59
schestowitzfirefox is a MESSMar 29 09:00
mateyand thats exactly why they wanted to see if pledge could work well with itMar 29 09:00
schestowitzrun lsod| grep firefox| wc -l  Mar 29 09:00
schestowitzrun lsof| grep firefox| wc -l  Mar 29 09:00
mateysort of like if you made a new rifle and had the light brigade from charge of the light brigade test it outMar 29 09:00
schestowitznetsurf is like 100 times lesssMar 29 09:00
mateythey have netsurf tooMar 29 09:00
schestowitzI use it 2/47Mar 29 09:00
schestowitz24/7 evenMar 29 09:01
schestowitznetsurf has frequent releasesMar 29 09:01
schestowitzit's one outlet for www fatigueMar 29 09:01
schestowitzbut it still uses a broken protocolMar 29 09:01
schestowitzand faces hostile sitesMar 29 09:01
mateyi still think getting away from the web is a very good ideaMar 29 09:01
schestowitzeventuallyMar 29 09:01
schestowitzit's like saying, let's go veganMar 29 09:02
schestowitzyou can start by reducingMar 29 09:02
schestowitzlike 80% gemini, 20% webMar 29 09:02
schestowitzand if everyone else does it, momentum shiftsMar 29 09:02
schestowitzthis past 1-2 I cannot access some sitesMar 29 09:02
schestowitzGulag killed feedburnerMar 29 09:02
schestowitzit's finalMar 29 09:03
schestowitzand clownflare blocks RSS requestsMar 29 09:03
schestowitzas if my RSS reader can solve JS riddlesMar 29 09:03
schestowitzthe web goes to shitMar 29 09:03
schestowitzgemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/Mar 29 09:03
mateyclownflare is one of the things that will help kill th  web for goodMar 29 09:03
schestowitzyes!Mar 29 09:03
mateyyou know the saddest exmaple of clownflare i know? its not even, its just a similar bullshitMar 29 09:03
SomeH4x0rarchived websites are good too I think, but I don't like that Web Archive grew bigMar 29 09:04
schestowitzmany people think git is githubMar 29 09:04
mateysecuri firewall-- i call it suckuriMar 29 09:04
schestowitzand www is clownflareMar 29 09:04
schestowitzand gnu is "linux"Mar 29 09:04
schestowitzand PC is "Windows"Mar 29 09:04
mateythe guy who maintains ncurses for gnu blocks tor users from his websiteMar 29 09:04
SomeH4x0r*WintelMar 29 09:04
schestowitzand Internet is WebMar 29 09:04
mateyits a clownflare like "firewall" for the webMar 29 09:04
schestowitzthere are tons more examples like theseMar 29 09:05
schestowitzgoogle is searchMar 29 09:05
mateysometimes sourceforge does too, but not half as badlyMar 29 09:05
schestowitzI could give dozens of examplesMar 29 09:05
mateyand 99% of the time, when i see them doing thatMar 29 09:05
mateyi just say fuck it and give up on that websiteMar 29 09:05
schestowitzwhen something becomes too dominant in somethingMar 29 09:05
schestowitzand then the hoi polloi thinks that's the same thingMar 29 09:05
schestowitzusenet is google groupsMar 29 09:06
schestowitzamfora and lagrange have a lot of share in geminiMar 29 09:06
schestowitzwhich itself is riskyMar 29 09:06
schestowitzand they implement some "special" featuresMar 29 09:06
schestowitz"blue e" = internetMar 29 09:06
mateyand at least one is github basedMar 29 09:06
schestowitzto people in se asia and africa FB *IS* "the internet"Mar 29 09:07
mateyi think the only client i have right now is a bash scriptMar 29 09:07
schestowitzand to some, twitter is "the news"Mar 29 09:07
mateyse asia?Mar 29 09:07
schestowitzs.e. asiaMar 29 09:07
mateylaos?Mar 29 09:07
schestowitzlike indochinaMar 29 09:07
mateyvietnam?Mar 29 09:07
mateymy geography has always been shitMar 29 09:07
mateyindochina <- okayMar 29 09:08
matey "blue e" = internet <- oh yes i rememberMar 29 09:10
mateyadventurism in brandingMar 29 09:10
mateyaol did it first, microsoft beat them at their own gameMar 29 09:10
mateyi realise aol was a bbs too, i used a bbs service in the early 90sMar 29 09:10
schestowitz-TRto many people "apps" are...Mar 29 09:11
schestowitz-TR"phones" are..Mar 29 09:11
schestowitz-TR(esp, the young)Mar 29 09:11
mateyits very sadMar 29 09:11
schestowitz-TRwho never sae a floppy diskMar 29 09:11
schestowitz-TRdiskette Mar 29 09:11
mateywhy did you 3d print the save iconMar 29 09:11
schestowitz-TRlol!!!Mar 29 09:12
schestowitz-TRi got a gift from a colleagueMar 29 09:12
schestowitz-TR4 coastersMar 29 09:12
schestowitz-TRthey're diskettesMar 29 09:12
mateyi had thoseMar 29 09:12
mateyyepMar 29 09:12
schestowitz-TRwith cork on themMar 29 09:12
mateythese were a foam-like rubbery... foamMar 29 09:12
schestowitz-TRI still use theseMar 29 09:13
schestowitz-TRI collect coastersMar 29 09:13
schestowitz-TRthey're nice and cheapMar 29 09:13
mateyat one point many years ago i got a bunch of aol cds specifically to use as coastersMar 29 09:13
mateyi think 3.5 diskettes would work better actually, as long the glass wasnt too wideMar 29 09:14
mateytheres a limit to how much condensation a cd can stand and still act as a coasterMar 29 09:15
mateyplus the hole in the centreMar 29 09:15
mateyyou could use two with a piece of tape between them, though i didnt get that elaborateMar 29 09:16
schestowitzhttps://media.libreplanet.org/u/libreplanet/m/the-net-beyond-the-web-audio-only/Mar 29 09:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-media.libreplanet.org | The Net beyond the Web (Audio Only) — GNU MediaGoblinMar 29 09:17
schestowitzthey uploaded the wrong filesMar 29 09:17
schestowitzboth the audio and video versionsMar 29 09:17
mateydid the upload the one where theyre are a bunch of people wearing hoods and holding swords while stallman has his hands tied together?Mar 29 09:18
mateythereMar 29 09:18
mateywe arent supposed to see that one yetMar 29 09:19
mateythomas lord said the people curious why stallman wasnt invited to lp were guilty of "hero worship"Mar 29 09:20
mateyi give up, he was defending him when stallman was cancelledMar 29 09:20
mateythomas lord has gone back and forth on this sort of thing enough times-- i dont know what side hes on, ive simply accepted that ill never understand his motivationsMar 29 09:21
mateythis isnt the first timeMar 29 09:21
matey i wouldnt even put it down to just saying what he thinks people want to hear-- if its not that though, i really dont know what it isMar 29 09:22
techrights-newsPanos Alevropoulos on Software Patents in 2022 | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/03/29/panos-alevropoulos-swpats/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/29/panos-alevropoulos-swpats/Mar 29 09:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Panos Alevropoulos on Software Patents in 2022 | TechrightsMar 29 09:24
mateyhttps://puppylinux.com/ onlineMar 29 09:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-puppylinux.com | Puppy Linux HomeMar 29 09:24
XRevan86https://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/sysvinit-devel/2022-03/msg00000.html "Issues can be reported here: https://github.com/slicer69/sysvinit/issues "Mar 29 09:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.nongnu.org | Release of SysV init 3.02Mar 29 09:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Issues · slicer69/sysvinit · GitHubMar 29 09:25
schestowitz-TRstill on Microsoft server?Mar 29 09:25
mateyonline: https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/woof-CEMar 29 09:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - puppylinux-woof-CE/woof-CE: woof - the Puppy builderMar 29 09:26
schestowitz-TRheheMar 29 09:26
schestowitz-TRKing Microsoft: bow downMar 29 09:26
mateystill on Microsoft server? <- i wasnt aware it was on a microsoft server to begin withMar 29 09:26
schestowitz-TRwe own you!\Mar 29 09:26
matey<XRevan86> https://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/sysvinit-devel/2022-03/msg00000.html "Issues can be reported here: https://github.com/slicer69/sysvinit/issues " <- i literally found this a few days agoMar 29 09:26
XRevan86matey: Didn't notice that here.Mar 29 09:27
mateyso switching from systemd to sysvinit wont get you away from githubMar 29 09:27
schestowitz-TRlet's use a platform controlled by criminalsMar 29 09:27
schestowitz-TRjust ignore the hostMar 29 09:27
schestowitz-TRsure, it bribes everyoneMar 29 09:27
schestowitz-TRbut we're fineMar 29 09:27
matey <XRevan86> matey: Didn't notice that here. <- 99% of what i find about github i dont even mention hereMar 29 09:27
schestowitz-TRwe'll be OKMar 29 09:27
schestowitz-TRignore the many github departuresMar 29 09:27
schestowitz-TRinc. CEOMar 29 09:27
schestowitz-TRand the assault on womenMar 29 09:28
schestowitz-TRthe media won't report these anywayMar 29 09:28
mateyand the users only care if they step downMar 29 09:28
mateylike if they didnt step down, they might leave githubMar 29 09:28
mateybut if they do step down, problem solvedMar 29 09:28
schestowitz-TRin 2018 many projects chose githubMar 29 09:29
schestowitz-TRin 2022 not as manyMar 29 09:29
schestowitz-TRother options are consideredMar 29 09:29
mateythats goodMar 29 09:29
schestowitz-TRso over time the share of Microsoft will decreaseMar 29 09:29
schestowitz-TRsame with skypeMar 29 09:29
mateyim disappointed about the sr.ht modelMar 29 09:29
schestowitz-TRwhen Microsoft took over a decade ago it was dominantMar 29 09:29
schestowitz-TRnow it's nothing compared to whatsappMar 29 09:29
mateynot that you have to pay to start a project there, or maintain write accessMar 29 09:29
mateythats okayMar 29 09:29
schestowitz-TRwhatsapp is bad also, but..Mar 29 09:29
mateybut that they dont plan to even keep code online when payment stopsMar 29 09:30
schestowitz-TRwhat is the company -- and the site -- collapse?Mar 29 09:30
mateyfor 8 weeks sureMar 29 09:30
schestowitz-TRI put some coding projects of mine in freshmeatMar 29 09:30
schestowitz-TRdon't know what freshmeat.net leads to nowMar 29 09:30
schestowitz-TRiirc, esr and others made a new siteMar 29 09:31
schestowitz-TRwith new nameMar 29 09:31
schestowitz-TRand it's merely an archive of some kingMar 29 09:31
schestowitz-TR*kindMar 29 09:31
mateyi think freshmeat goes to sourceforge or somethingMar 29 09:31
schestowitz-TRand maybe that too is offline alreadyMar 29 09:31
mateybut not directlyMar 29 09:31
schestowitz-TR20 years ago FM and SSF were de facto platforms for fs projectsMar 29 09:31
mateylike freshmeat says the site is out of date and then offers to take you to sourceforge or somethingMar 29 09:32
schestowitz-TRthe web has a short shelf lifeMar 29 09:32
mateybut some of the content is still thereMar 29 09:32
mateywhat is it that rms says people should say instead of "content"?Mar 29 09:32
mateyi dont know how he ever got the idea that its a condescending wordMar 29 09:32
schestowitz-TRit isMar 29 09:33
schestowitz-TRnot only RMS said itMar 29 09:33
mateycdrs and classic books always had a table of "contents"Mar 29 09:33
schestowitz-TReven 15 years ago many said itMar 29 09:33
schestowitz-TRwith high-profile articles to that effectMar 29 09:33
schestowitz-TR"user-generated content"Mar 29 09:33
schestowitz-TR"user"Mar 29 09:33
schestowitz-TR"generated"Mar 29 09:33
schestowitz-TR"content"Mar 29 09:33
mateyi take more issue with "user generated" tbhMar 29 09:33
schestowitz-TRsweatshop-teleported "stuff"Mar 29 09:33
mateywhen rms says "content" is bad it goes over my headMar 29 09:34
schestowitz-TRlike the creators are "NPCs"Mar 29 09:34
schestowitz-TRare songs "content"?Mar 29 09:34
mateyyeah "user generated" i can see the slight cringe value Mar 29 09:34
schestowitz-TRwas the mona lisa "content"?Mar 29 09:34
schestowitz-TRis firefox "content"?Mar 29 09:34
mateywar and peace was.Mar 29 09:34
mateya tale of two cities wasMar 29 09:35
mateythis is just making something out of nothing imoMar 29 09:35
mateybut im still trying to understand-- i just, dontMar 29 09:35
mateya mango lassi is the "contents" of a glassMar 29 09:36
mateya good lassi is work of art imoMar 29 09:36
matey"gourmet" if you likeMar 29 09:36
mateyi just cant find a way to be offended by it.Mar 29 09:36
mateyagain: classic booksMar 29 09:36
mateygranted "gourmet" is a stupid word, but i dont consider it an insult Mar 29 09:37
matey as used ^Mar 29 09:37
mateypart of the reason i cant understand the offense taken is that the original context online wasMar 29 09:39
mateya website was JUST a website-- it was the "content" that actually matteredMar 29 09:39
mateyits the filling in the oreoMar 29 09:39
mateythe good partMar 29 09:39
mateywithout that, why bother visiting?Mar 29 09:39
mateybut i dont know-- when you have a list of words youre encouraging people to avoid/use, maybe sometimes you add one thats sort of useless (or proves to be later)Mar 29 09:40
mateyive always been very open about having mixed feelings about that page. rms never treated it as mandatory, trisquel added it to their forum rules. i was never a fan of that either.Mar 29 09:41
mateyi called it a "gnuspeak" dictionaryMar 29 09:41
mateywell intentioned, i just didnt like itMar 29 09:41
mateyits one thing to say people are better off using only free softwareMar 29 09:42
mateyits another to tell everyone who uses free software they should accept this dictionary, rather than writing their own and making those decisions for themselvesMar 29 09:43
mateyrms maybe did no harm there, trisquel-- i dont agree with it.Mar 29 09:43
mateyand today you have ubuntu pulling the same trick based on NICENESSMar 29 09:43
mateyso, i cant say theres no precedent, free software.Mar 29 09:44
mateygithub: you shouldnt use master when you can use main, its racistMar 29 09:44
mateyfsf: you shouldnt use content when you can use (?), its selling yourself shortMar 29 09:45
mateynot the same i know. just too similar for my taste (and it was before github was even thing)Mar 29 09:45
techrights-news"To begin, the truck’s wiper blade control unit was ripped out and replaced with an Arduino Uno along with a new DC motor driver and motor encoder for determining its absolute position." https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/03/28/these-special-windshield-wipers-move-to-the-beat-of-a-cars-stereo/Mar 29 09:45
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | These special windshield wipers move to the beat of a car's stereo | Arduino BlogMar 29 09:45
mateyit ENTIRELY depends on what degree of importance is given to it of course. when its literally just a suggestion, who cares, theres no problem.Mar 29 09:46
mateysome people prefer dogma, when a suggestion is offered. i dont.Mar 29 09:46
mateyhttps://www.bkhome.org/ <- onlineMar 29 09:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bkhome.org | BarryK's Home — All categoriesMar 29 09:49
techrights-newsGoogle #Android Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163100Mar 29 09:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesMar 29 09:49
mateyi dont even know which site was down, so i cant tell if its back upMar 29 09:50
techrights-newsGulag and Clownflare wage a war on the Web. Mozilla helps both of them. What does that make Mozilla?Mar 29 09:51
techrights-news"In this post, I will talk about how I modified my pkg configuration so I don’t have to modify it after upgrading a host/jail" https://dan.langille.org/2022/03/27/making-my-pkg-conf-configuration-version-independent/Mar 29 09:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dan.langille.org | Making my pkg.conf configuration version independent – Dan Langille's Other DiaryMar 29 09:56
techrights-news"Cyntech has been on the Raspberry Pi scene since the early days." https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cyntech-raspberry-pi-4-case-and-heatsink-reviewMar 29 09:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tomshardware.com | Cyntech Raspberry Pi 4 Case and Heatsink Review | Tom's HardwareMar 29 09:57
techrights-news"I haven't written for a bit, in part because I am currently on vacation in Mexico." https://computer.rip/2022-03-24-VoWiFi.htmlMar 29 09:57
-altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: computer.rip | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://computer.rip/2022-03-24-VoWiFi.htmlMar 29 09:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-computer.rip | Computers Are BadMar 29 09:57
techrights-news"The technical components of e-CODEX are open source building blocks, mainly consisting of a connector and a gateway" https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/collection/open-source-observatory-osor/news/cross-border-justice-going-open-sourceMar 29 09:58
-altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: europa.eu | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/collection/open-source-observatory-osor/news/cross-border-justice-going-open-sourceMar 29 09:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joinup.ec.europa.eu | Cross-border justice going open source | JoinupMar 29 09:58
techrights-newsFSF ED Zoë said that she has “an endless amount of examples and reasons to believe that free software is the way forward, worth protecting, and something we need to make sure people understand how to fight for” http://techrights.org/2022/03/29/zoe-kooyman-keynote/Mar 29 09:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Zoë Kooyman’s First Keynote as Free Software Foundation (FSF) Executive Director | TechrightsMar 29 09:59
techrights-news𝘛𝘦𝘤𝘩𝘳𝘪𝘨𝘩𝘵𝘴 IRC Proceedings: Monday, March 28, 2022 • Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/03/29/irc-log-280322/ ䷉ Source: Techrights | GNU | Linux | FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/29/irc-log-280322/Mar 29 09:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Monday, March 28, 2022 | TechrightsMar 29 10:00
techrights-newsToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163101Mar 29 10:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesMar 29 10:00
techrights-news"This talk is about software patents, and how they are legal instruments designed to curtail the freedom of developers for the sake of multinational companies’ interests.” http://techrights.org/2022/03/29/panos-alevropoulos-swpats/Mar 29 10:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Panos Alevropoulos on Software Patents in 2022 | TechrightsMar 29 10:00
techrights-news"Elliptic curve cryptography (ECC) is a type of public-key cryptographic systems." https://matt-rickard.com/elliptic-curve-cryptography/Mar 29 10:01
-altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: matt-rickard.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://matt-rickard.com/elliptic-curve-cryptography/Mar 29 10:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-matt-rickard.com | Elliptic Curve Cryptography for BeginnersMar 29 10:01
schestowitz-TRmatey: the puppy linux siteMar 29 10:07
schestowitz-TRbarry's site mentioned the issueMar 29 10:08
schestowitz-TRso clearly it was not downMar 29 10:08
schestowitz-TRread the postMar 29 10:08
schestowitz-TRgithub SUSPENDED itMar 29 10:08
schestowitz-TRit's not the github downtime issueMar 29 10:08
schestowitz-TRthey mess aroundMar 29 10:08
matey<schestowitz-TR> they mess around <- so does anyone who stays there, imoMar 29 10:11
schestowitz-TRackMar 29 10:12
mateythe least they could do is warn others "dont come here! its a trap!"Mar 29 10:12
schestowitz-TRlolMar 29 10:12
mateyinstead they act as free marketing and say "well you know, its what people use"Mar 29 10:12
mateygreat, so youre running windows thenMar 29 10:12
mateyno, windows sucksMar 29 10:12
mateybut its what people USE!Mar 29 10:12
techrights-newssocial CONTROL media https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-60875884Mar 29 10:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | Teenage social media use linked to less life-satisfaction for some - BBC NewsMar 29 10:12
techrights-news"NYT had confirmed that the documents used as source material" https://itwire.com/business-it-news/business-technology/rehashed-nyt-yarn-on-russian-surveillance-shot-down-by-nokia.htmlMar 29 10:13
-altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: itwire.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://itwire.com/business-it-news/business-technology/rehashed-nyt-yarn-on-russian-surveillance-shot-down-by-nokia.htmlMar 29 10:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iTWire - Rehashed NYT yarn on Russian surveillance shot down by NokiaMar 29 10:13
techrights-news"NYT described how the Finnish firm played a "key role" in helping" https://yle.fi/news/3-12380296Mar 29 10:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yle.fi | NYT: Nokia played "key role" in enabling Russian cyberspying | News | Yle UutisetMar 29 10:14
techrights-news"For more than five years, Nokia provided equipment and services to link SORM to Russia’s largest telecom service provider, MTS" https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/28/technology/nokia-russia-surveillance-system-sorm.htmlMar 29 10:14
-altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: nytimes.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/28/technology/nokia-russia-surveillance-system-sorm.htmlMar 29 10:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | When Nokia Pulled Out of Russia, a Vast Surveillance System Remained - The New York TimesMar 29 10:14
techrights-news"Security firm UpGuard released a report detailing how it found 1.7TB of data owned by Nokia and related to Russian operator MTS" https://nokiamob.net/2019/09/22/1-7tb-nokia-data-leak-reveals-details-about-surveillance-in-russia/Mar 29 10:15
-altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: nokiamob.net | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://nokiamob.net/2019/09/22/1-7tb-nokia-data-leak-reveals-details-about-surveillance-in-russia/Mar 29 10:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nokiamob.net | 1.7TB Nokia data leak reveals details about surveillance in Russia | NokiamobMar 29 10:15
mateynow heres something nice barry has doneMar 29 10:16
techrights-newsmove!! https://reason.com/volokh/2022/03/27/nycs-private-anti-idling-law-enforcers/Mar 29 10:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-reason.com | NYC's Private Anti-Idling Law EnforcersMar 29 10:16
mateyhe forked bashblog (github) to: https://bkhome.org/news/tag_shellcms.htmlMar 29 10:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bkhome.org | Barrys News — Posts tagged "shellcms"Mar 29 10:16
mateyself hostedMar 29 10:16
schestowitz-TRniceMar 29 10:16
schestowitz-TRif enough people moan about itMar 29 10:17
mateybashblog is what he was doing his blog with of courseMar 29 10:17
schestowitz-TRhe might not react overnightMar 29 10:17
mateyshellcms is his fork of itMar 29 10:17
schestowitz-TRbut that adds upMar 29 10:17
mateybarry is compeltely hands-off regarding puppyMar 29 10:17
schestowitz-TRyes, i know the 'cms' he usesMar 29 10:17
mateyi think easyos would have been created solely so he could wash his hands of the formerMar 29 10:17
mateywell its barry, so "cmk" is going mean, naturally "a shell script"Mar 29 10:18
mateycms ^Mar 29 10:18
techrights-newsLand of disneyland... running out of water https://thehill.com/policy/equilibrium-sustainability/600116-newsom-issues-order-tightening-water-conservation-amidMar 29 10:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Newsom issues order tightening water conservation amid worsening drought | TheHillMar 29 10:18
mateywhatever the community does with puppy is 100% up to the communityMar 29 10:19
mateyand for better or worse, its not a corporation this time Mar 29 10:19
techrights-newsOld: "More than half the world’s population faces water scarcity for at least one month every year." https://theconversation.com/ipcc-report-half-the-world-is-facing-water-scarcity-floods-and-dirty-water-large-investments-are-needed-for-effective-solutions-175578Mar 29 10:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theconversation.com | IPCC report: Half the world is facing water scarcity, floods and dirty water — large investments are needed for effective solutionsMar 29 10:19
mateythough the community INSISTS on dividing into tiers along user/dev linesMar 29 10:19
mateyand this pressure comes from the users more than the devs i thinkMar 29 10:20
techrights-newsMister Pentagon (PentaGAFAM) https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/28/22999754/eric-schmidt-google-money-white-house-science-ai-landerMar 29 10:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Ex-Google CEO funneled money into the White House science office - The VergeMar 29 10:20
mateyas though developeritis is a disease one might contract if certain precautions are not takenMar 29 10:21
matey"i heard jakes got the developer thing now" "wow, really makes you think doesnt it"Mar 29 10:21
techrights-newsMIT on Misinformation??? https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2022/03/fake-news-misinformation-mit-study/629396/ Give me a break, MIT. Quit covering up for sex traffickers. http://techrights.org/2020/01/10/gates-sponsored-mit/Mar 29 10:21
-altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: theatlantic.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2022/03/fake-news-misinformation-mit-study/629396/Mar 29 10:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theatlantic.com | I Shared Fake News About a Fake-News Study - The AtlanticMar 29 10:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Massachusetts Institute of Tall Tales (MIT) Covers Up Bill Gates Bribery of MIT Through a High-Profile Pedophile, Citing No Evidence Other Than Representatives of Gates Himself | TechrightsMar 29 10:21
techrights-news"video-game developers, rather than professional historians" https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/03/history-video-games-europa-universalis/622892/Mar 29 10:22
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theatlantic.com | What Happens When Kids Get Their History From Video Games? - The AtlanticMar 29 10:22
mateywe are of course talking mostly about hacking on bash scripts and maybe compiling a package sometimes, while creating a package is done with an automated tool anybody (even users) can useMar 29 10:22
mateythats what theyre afraid of accidentally getting sucked into Mar 29 10:23
schestowitz-TRwhere are puppy users?Mar 29 10:23
schestowitz-TRserious questionMar 29 10:23
schestowitz-TRjust sounds a little smellyMar 29 10:23
mateytheres a forum somewhereMar 29 10:23
mateysmelly?Mar 29 10:23
schestowitz-TRwhere in the world?Mar 29 10:23
schestowitz-TRdemography and rigsMar 29 10:23
mateyi mean barry is an aussieMar 29 10:23
schestowitz-TRyes, I knowMar 29 10:24
schestowitz-TRbut puppy is for low specsMar 29 10:24
mateythey have a few britsMar 29 10:24
mateyi honestly dont think you get low specsMar 29 10:24
schestowitz-TRbut the users?Mar 29 10:24
mateylow specs are popular all over the world, not just where neededMar 29 10:24
schestowitz-TRpuppy is good for weak hardwareMar 29 10:24
schestowitz-TRold stuffMar 29 10:24
mateyyes but it runs on new stuffMar 29 10:25
mateyits based on ubuntu Mar 29 10:25
schestowitz-TRyes, but then the reason to choose puppy isn't quite thereMar 29 10:25
mateyso basically, imagine who would have used lxde when that was a thingMar 29 10:25
schestowitz-TRrianneMar 29 10:25
mateyi dont think as many people choose puppy as beforeMar 29 10:25
schestowitz-TRand meMar 29 10:25
mateyit was designed in the era where burning cdrs was the typical way of using a distro-- easyos doesnt even have an iso, its usb onlyMar 29 10:26
schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi_OSMar 29 10:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Raspberry Pi OS - WikipediaMar 29 10:26
schestowitz"Raspberry Pi OS uses a modified LXDE as its desktop environment with the Openbox stacking window manager, along with a unique theme."Mar 29 10:26
mateyrightMar 29 10:26
mateyso im wrong that no one uses lxde anymore, obviouslyMar 29 10:27
mateyits news to meMar 29 10:27
schestowitz-TRit is limited but very vewwwy vewwwyw wiiighyweightMar 29 10:27
mateybut lots of low end hardware, if puppy runs on it.Mar 29 10:27
mateyi never tried puppy when i had a piMar 29 10:27
schestowitz-TRthere might be 100 million pies out thereMar 29 10:27
schestowitz-TR50m+Mar 29 10:27
schestowitz-TR*pisMar 29 10:27
techrights-newsBillPR (NPR) promoting Gates shares https://text.npr.org/1086790531Mar 29 10:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-text.npr.org | Misinformation is derailing renewable energy projects across the United StatesMar 29 10:28
techrights-news"It was a remarkable moment in the war in Europe: President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine gave a 90-minute-long Zoom interview on Sunday to four prominent journalists from Russia" https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/27/world/europe/russia-media-zelensky.htmlMar 29 10:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Zelensky Gives Interview to Russian Journalists. Moscow Orders It Quashed. - The New York TimesMar 29 10:29
mateyif puppy does run on a pi, and someone showed it to me and it ran a LOT better than raspbian, i wouldnt be surprised at allMar 29 10:29
mateythe only distro ive seen that compares to puppy in this way is antixMar 29 10:29
mateyalso github basedMar 29 10:29
mateyand apologetic (trollishly so) for geoclueMar 29 10:29
mateybut is it ever stupidly fastMar 29 10:30
techrights-news"In recent years these episodes have risen to an alarming level, with increasing cases of fatal violence." https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/20/world/asia/pakistan-blasphemy-religious-violence.htmlMar 29 10:30
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Religion-Fueled Mobs on the Rise Again in Pakistan - The New York TimesMar 29 10:30
mateyi dont even understand howMar 29 10:30
schestowitz-TRis dsl still a contender?Mar 29 10:30
schestowitz-TRwas it jim or jwm?Mar 29 10:30
schestowitz-TRicewm?Mar 29 10:31
schestowitz-TRmaybe both?Mar 29 10:31
schestowitz-TRUI forgotMar 29 10:31
schestowitz-TRI have an old laptop with itMar 29 10:31
schestowitz-TR90s laptopMar 29 10:31
mateyno, dsl has been tinycore for at least a decadeMar 29 10:31
mateymore than thatMar 29 10:31
mateydsl was john and robertMar 29 10:31
mateyrobert didnt like johns lack of respect for gplMar 29 10:31
mateyhe finally left and created tinycore instead of dslMar 29 10:32
mateyjohn didnt have the skills robert didMar 29 10:32
schestowitzoops, I meant Joe, not JimMar 29 10:32
schestowitzJWM (Joe's Window Manager) Mar 29 10:32
schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JWMMar 29 10:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | JWM - WikipediaMar 29 10:32
mateytinycore didnt use jwm, i think puppy still does.Mar 29 10:32
mateyjwm and rox-desktop (rox-filer)Mar 29 10:33
mateydsl used jwm as you seem to be suggestingMar 29 10:33
techrights-newsThe banning of Destiny & why I’m deleting twitch ⚓ https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/the-banning-of-destiny-why-i'm-deleting:7 ䷉ Source: rossmanngroupMar 29 10:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-odysee.com | The banning of Destiny & why I'm deleting twitchMar 29 10:35
techrights-newsMatt cartoons – March 2022 - News ⚓ https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/0/matt-cartoons-march-2022/ ䷉ Source: telegraphMar 29 10:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.telegraph.co.uk | Matt cartoons – March 2022 - NewsMar 29 10:36
mateythe main thing about jwm is i was editing its xml-based config and thought "you know, i dont think i ever want to do this again"Mar 29 10:36
mateysomething about editing xml-based configs i find depressing. weird, but there it is. its not too hard or anything.Mar 29 10:37
schestowitz-TRsounds like a job for a guiMar 29 10:37
schestowitz-TRand not a hard-to-make GUIMar 29 10:37
mateysure but you know how it is with guisMar 29 10:37
schestowitz-TRor dialogMar 29 10:37
schestowitz-TRncursesMar 29 10:37
mateyoh never ncurses, this is puppyMar 29 10:37
schestowitz-TRlots of things that automate the packaging of itMar 29 10:37
schestowitz-TRenter permissible option setMar 29 10:37
mateypuppy has redone its gui stuff so many times, i simply cant be botheredMar 29 10:38
schestowitz-TRI did that many times before with my own programsMar 29 10:38
mateynothing ties you to jwm in puppy really, so unless you prefer it, yo ucan just use something elseMar 29 10:38
mateyi was partial to icewmMar 29 10:38
schestowitz-TRin several languages and frameworksMar 29 10:38
techrights-newsFeudalism https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/03/28/corporations-are-suppressing-wages-theres-an-easy-fix-for-that/Mar 29 10:39
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Corporations Are Suppressing Wages...There’s an Easy Fix for That - CounterPunch.orgMar 29 10:39
techrights-newsDonald Biden https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/03/28/biden-on-putin/Mar 29 10:42
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Biden on Putin - CounterPunch.orgMar 29 10:42
techrights-newsAfter the fall The old pillars of Russia’s free press have crumbled, but the journalists who ran those publications carry on. https://meduza.io/en/slides/after-the-fallMar 29 10:43
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techrights-news"As a purely electronic device, it’s well outside the realm of conventional musical instruments. Two radio antennas detect the position of the musician’s hands to make a unique sound traditionally associated with eeriness or science fiction." https://hackaday.com/2022/03/28/raspberry-pi-creates-melody/Mar 29 10:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Raspberry Pi Creates Melody | HackadayMar 29 10:44
techrights-news"The wildly successful PDP-11 minicomputer was a major influence on the evolution of computing throughout the 1970s" https://hackaday.com/2022/03/28/pdp-11-34-restoration-and-the-virtue-of-persistence/Mar 29 10:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-PDP-11/34 Restoration And The Virtue Of Persistence | HackadayMar 29 10:45
techrights-newsHollywood 'owns' the Net now? https://torrentfreak.com/court-denies-coxs-challenge-of-1-billion-music-piracy-verdict-220328/Mar 29 10:46
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Court Denies Cox's Challenge of $1 Billion Music Piracy Verdict * TorrentFreakMar 29 10:46
techrights-news"A little over a week ago a number of Destiny content creators had DMCA notices filed against their videos on" GulagTube https://torrentfreak.com/bungie-files-lawsuit-to-punish-senders-of-fake-destiny-dmca-notices-220328/Mar 29 10:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bungie Files Lawsuit to Punish Senders of Fake Destiny DMCA Notices * TorrentFreakMar 29 10:47
techrights-newsBiden asks for more [bailout money for Microsoft] https://truthout.org/articles/biden-asks-congress-for-a-record-breaking-813-billion-in-military-spending/ see http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/Mar 29 10:49
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Biden Asks Congress for a Record-Breaking $813 Billion in Military SpendingMar 29 10:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The United States Government Should Quit Bailing Out Microsoft at Taxpayers’ Expense | TechrightsMar 29 10:49
techrights-newsUS media, owned by oligarchs: let's entertain the masses with reports about collapse of Russian economy (at whose expense???) while our OWN economy is rotting away. Nationalism as the last recourse of failed capitalism.Mar 29 10:51
techrights-news"The chairman of a congressional subcommittee has asked Apple and Gulag to help stop fraud against U.S. taxpayers on Telegram" https://www.propublica.org/article/congressional-chair-asks-google-and-apple-to-help-stop-fraud-against-u-s-taxpayers-on-telegram propublica bags bribes from pervert Bill Gates, so this famous criminal and the criminals from Microsoft are no longer scrutinised by propublicaMar 29 10:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.propublica.org | Congressional Chair Asks Google and Apple to Help Stop Fraud Against U.S. Taxpayers on Telegram — ProPublicaMar 29 10:54
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techrights-news"I’ll give Nintendo this much: the company certainly is an absolute master at enforcing copyright in the most extreme, pettiest manner possible." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/28/nintendo-hates-you-scans-of-super-mario-64-manual-taken-down-via-copyright-claim/Mar 29 10:58
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Nintendo Hates You: Scans Of ‘Super Mario 64’ Manual Taken Down Via Copyright Claim | TechdirtMar 29 10:58
techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▆▅▁▄▂▆▅▅▆▅▁▂▃▁▂▃▇▅▂▃▃▄▇▅█▁▇▃▅▃▂▇▆▁ avg(k/sec) 52.68 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▃▁█▁▁▂▁▂▁▂▂▁▁██▂▃▁▁▁▂▃▂█▄▂▁▂▄▇█▂▂▁ avg(k/sec) 68.26▕ swarm size (avg): 295.83  ⟲Mar 29 10:59
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techrights-newsRead the comments here. EU and EPO became 99% corruption when it comes to patent law. http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2022/03/23/is-upc-victim-of-a-latent-vice/#commentsMar 29 11:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | Is UPC Victim of a Latent Vice? - Kluwer Patent BlogMar 29 11:03
techrights-newsGulag kills things, including the Web. "The Feedburner Twitter account is inactive and recommends that people Tweet at Google instead. It seems that Google wants to get rid of the service and random 404s probably aren’t a high priority for them." https://etbe.coker.com.au/2022/03/29/feedburner-dying/Mar 29 11:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-etbe.coker.com.au | Feedburner Seems to be Dying « etbe - Russell CokerMar 29 11:05
*DaemonFC (~daemonfc@tqegvjsx7fdka.irc) has joined #techrightsMar 29 11:10
DaemonFCI hate Reddit.Mar 29 11:11
DaemonFC"This app has unlimited dogs." You have to click "No thanks, I don't like dogs.".Mar 29 11:11
DaemonFCThen it does the same thing about cats, and that time it says "Continue in browser.".Mar 29 11:11
DaemonFC<techrights-news> US media, owned by oligarchs: let's entertain the masses with reports about collapse of Russian economy (at whose expense???) while our OWN economy is rotting away. Nationalism as the last recourse of failed capitalism.Mar 29 11:12
DaemonFCschestowitz, Robert Reich is pennin op-eds in the grauniad.Mar 29 11:12
DaemonFCStallman links to those too.Mar 29 11:13
DaemonFCThis time he's saying the Fed shouldn't raise rates from zero because it won't slow down inflation.Mar 29 11:13
DaemonFCThe only point of keeping rates at zero is to give large companies taxpayer-funded debt to do share buybacks with to make the economy look like it's growing.Mar 29 11:13
DaemonFCIt has absolutely nothing to do with employment levels. They fire people even now.Mar 29 11:14
DaemonFCInterest rate hikes have little to do with the business cycle. If anything, they're so low they create moral hazards, like the buybacks.Mar 29 11:14
schestowitz-TR[11:13] <DaemonFC> The only point of keeping rates at zero is to give large companies taxpayer-funded debt to do share buybacks with to make the economy look like it's growing.Mar 29 11:17
schestowitz-TRyes!]Mar 29 11:17
schestowitz-TRsavers' accounts lootedMar 29 11:17
schestowitz-TRby just sitting thereMar 29 11:17
schestowitz-TRlosing valueMar 29 11:17
schestowitz-TRworse:Mar 29 11:17
schestowitz-TRthey could be diverted into "the stock market"Mar 29 11:18
schestowitz-TRuntil it's epic collapseMar 29 11:18
DaemonFCThe Fed is raising rates. I think it will slow down inflation because it's going to billionaires to build yachts the size of the Sears Tower.Mar 29 11:18
schestowitz-TRonly inside-trading frauds will know where to quit and cash inMar 29 11:18
schestowitz-TRUS has a phantom economyMar 29 11:19
schestowitz-TRand has for decadesMar 29 11:19
schestowitz-TRit's all borrowingsMar 29 11:19
schestowitz-TRUK economy like all others suffers alsoMar 29 11:19
schestowitz-TRbut not to the same degreeMar 29 11:19
schestowitz-TRwe don't have millions living in the streetsMar 29 11:19
schestowitz-TR[10:51] <techrights-news> US media, owned by oligarchs: let's entertain the masses with reports about collapse of Russian economy (at whose expense???) while our OWN economy is rotting away. Nationalism as the last recourse of failed capitalism.Mar 29 11:20
DaemonFCBoris.....Mar 29 11:20
DaemonFCFormer American....quit due to IRS.Mar 29 11:20
DaemonFC10 point plan to making spiking the homeless look humane by comparison.Mar 29 11:21
techrights-news"Trump’s Truth Social is having getting users to actually use the platform" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/28/trumpists-admit-that-their-own-social-media-platforms-arent-much-fun-when-they-cant-use-them-to-own-the-libs/Mar 29 11:22
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Trumpists Admit That Their Own Social Media Platforms Aren’t Much Fun When They Can’t Use Them To Own The Libs | TechdirtMar 29 11:22
DaemonFCOne reason both countries like propping up Ukraine is because they can give them a bunch of missiles that were aging and then dump money into replacing the stockpile.Mar 29 11:23
DaemonFCMeanwhile, the older ones are blowing up Russians.Mar 29 11:23
DaemonFCFor a politician, nothing to lose there.Mar 29 11:23
techrights-news"Dozens of prominent figures from the world of entertainment have come together to support hip hop artist and political campaigner Lowkey, after he was subject to a smear campaign and an attempt to remove his work from music streaming platform Spotify." https://www.mintpressnews.com/michael-malarkey-styles-p-wretch32-fredwreck-among-stars-condemning-israel-lobbys-attempt-cancel-lowkey/280098/Mar 29 11:24
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mintpressnews.com | Michael Malarkey, Styles P, Wretch32 & FredWreck among stars condemning Israel Lobby’s Attempt to Cancel LowkeyMar 29 11:24
DaemonFCAt least the mayor of San Francisco has the right name for what she's up to. "London"Mar 29 11:24
techrights-newsCars are corrosive to freedom. They used to be marketed as tools of independence and emancipation. Not the "new" cars. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/03/eff-investigation-mystery-gps-tracker-supporters-carMar 29 11:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | An EFF Investigation: Mystery GPS Tracker On A Supporter’s Car | Electronic Frontier FoundationMar 29 11:25
DaemonFCI drove over a curb this morning in the dark.Mar 29 11:26
DaemonFCI pulled over at the Mobil station to fill up because all the other stations are spiking 30 cents a gallon.Mar 29 11:26
techrights-newsSocial CONTROL Media https://www.eff.org/press/releases/eff-files-foia-lawsuit-against-dhs-shed-light-vetting-program-collect-and-data-mineMar 29 11:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | EFF Files FOIA Lawsuit Against DHS to Shed Light on Vetting Program to Collect and Data Mine Immigrants' Social Media | Electronic Frontier FoundationMar 29 11:27
DaemonFCLooked it over, didn't see any damage. The car still handles fine.Mar 29 11:27
DaemonFCThey put those stupid curbs everywhere even when there's no reason to.Mar 29 11:27
DaemonFCIn the middle of the road even.Mar 29 11:27
DaemonFCThey think it helps avoid accidents, but then people just go ahead and drive over them anyway, deliberately.Mar 29 11:28
schestowitz-TRit makes the roads smallerMar 29 11:28
DaemonFCI'm glad I didn't blow a tire.Mar 29 11:28
DaemonFCFuckersMar 29 11:28
DaemonFCI hate living in a city. Everything is so cramped.Mar 29 11:28
DaemonFCOh here's an empty state. Quick! Everyone! Pile into 1 county!Mar 29 11:29
DaemonFCPay $2,500 for a studio!Mar 29 11:29
DaemonFCGet shot for your wallet!Mar 29 11:29
DaemonFCNowhere to park!Mar 29 11:29
DaemonFCIt'll be FUN!Mar 29 11:29
DaemonFCIf you don't, you're missing out! People GET IT! - Mr. GOOOOOOOOOLAGMar 29 11:30
techrights-newsBailouts for Microsoft https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/28/we-do-not-need-massive-increase-sanders-criticizes-bidens-813-billion-military see http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/Mar 29 11:30
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | 'We Do Not Need a Massive Increase': Sanders Criticizes Biden's $813 Billion Military BudgetMar 29 11:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The United States Government Should Quit Bailing Out Microsoft at Taxpayers’ Expense | TechrightsMar 29 11:30
DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, Looks like John found himself a roommate and moved next to the sound in Seattle.Mar 29 11:31
DaemonFCMy guess is that after they fired him he had to take a lower wage somewhere else.Mar 29 11:31
DaemonFCDidn't want to leave the area.Mar 29 11:31
schestowitz-TRSeattle, eh?Mar 29 11:31
schestowitz-TRdo they swap CP?Mar 29 11:31
DaemonFCProbably.Mar 29 11:31
schestowitz-TRRick Allen JohnMar 29 11:31
DaemonFCWell, they've been solving cases the same way around these parts as Rick Jones.Mar 29 11:32
DaemonFCI saw it in the news the other day.Mar 29 11:32
DaemonFCThey busted a guy in McHenry for CP because an "unnamed Internet Service Provider" reported him to the NCMEC, and they contacted the police department.Mar 29 11:33
DaemonFCUnnamed ISP could mean anything, but probably Apple or Google.Mar 29 11:33
DaemonFCThey said they found it on his phone. So there's a hint.Mar 29 11:33
schestowitz-TRmaybe he used the phone to hook up witn rich peopleMar 29 11:34
schestowitz-TRrich allen jonesMar 29 11:34
schestowitz-TR"rich" people... wink winkMar 29 11:34
schestowitz-TRtouch noseMar 29 11:34
DaemonFCBoth scour your Clown storage looking for it, and the phones make backups of pictures and videos by default.Mar 29 11:34
DaemonFCAnd Apple says they plan to add the scanner "later".Mar 29 11:35
DaemonFCOf course, they can add it whenever they want. You won't know.Mar 29 11:35
schestowitz-TRso techrights has lots of work to doMar 29 11:35
schestowitz-TRexposing what tech is becomingMar 29 11:35
schestowitz-TRDaemonFC: rremember that in some countries illegal content is stuff like tibetMar 29 11:35
schestowitz-TRor flags of taiwanMar 29 11:35
DaemonFCAs soon as anything hits your hard drive in Windows, Microsoft knows what it is.Mar 29 11:35
schestowitz-TRapple bowed downMar 29 11:35
DaemonFCThat also means they know for sure who is "pirating" software, and which software.Mar 29 11:36
schestowitz-TRIFMar 29 11:36
DaemonFCAnd since you have to log in with a Microsoft account, they know whose account it is as well.Mar 29 11:36
schestowitz-TRIF they get their wayMar 29 11:36
schestowitz-TRif we inform peopleMar 29 11:36
schestowitz-TRthen they wioll walk awayMar 29 11:36
schestowitz-TRchina made phones that suppress speechMar 29 11:36
schestowitz-TRlike, if you criticise the regimeMar 29 11:36
schestowitz-TRit's turned off in the european marketMar 29 11:36
schestowitz-TRfor nowMar 29 11:36
DaemonFCmjg59_ is to programmers what the Wagner Group is to Putin.Mar 29 11:36
DaemonFCBut he acts like he does Free Software.Mar 29 11:37
schestowitz-TRof course "piracy" and CP and "|terrorism" are straw men hereMar 29 11:37
schestowitz-TRit's about controlMar 29 11:37
DaemonFCHe's a mercenary for the deep state.Mar 29 11:37
schestowitz-TRand they call you stuff if you express dissentMar 29 11:37
schestowitz-TRDaemonFC: free software like CCTV 'doorbell'Mar 29 11:37
schestowitz-TRa CCTV in every homeMar 29 11:38
schestowitz-TRorwell (blair) called them telescreens?Mar 29 11:38
DaemonFC"Microsoft is securing the PC" < Motherfucker please! Kiss my ass. They can't even secure their own networks and source code repos.Mar 29 11:38
DaemonFCYou think they're securing your laptop?Mar 29 11:38
DaemonFC:)Mar 29 11:38
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techrights-news"Russia's draconian censorship tactics must stop." https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/28/free-press-advocates-demand-end-russian-censorship-last-independent-paper-closesMar 29 11:39
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DaemonFCNow he's microsplogging about the Plutocrat chip that Microsoft and AMD are putting in.Mar 29 11:40
DaemonFCThe only reason these things are there is to create a "protected data path" to help your computer betray you by hiding what it is doing.Mar 29 11:41
schestowitz-TRyesMar 29 11:42
schestowitz-TRPluton-cratMar 29 11:42
schestowitz-TRyou pay to borrowMar 29 11:42
schestowitz-TR'your' laptopMar 29 11:42
techrights-news"The lawsuit, filed in the U.S. District Court in San Francisco, seeks records on the current status of the program" https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/03/public-has-right-know-how-dhs-spending-millions-spy-immigrants-social-mediaMar 29 11:43
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DaemonFChttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Breed#Housing_and_homelessnessMar 29 11:43
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DaemonFCBreed created a task force of members of the San Francisco Department of Public Works to clean up feces from city sidewalks, known as a Poop Patrol.[53][54] Mar 29 11:44
DaemonFC:)Mar 29 11:44
DaemonFCmjg59_, "I love San Francisco!" "People here get it!"Mar 29 11:44
DaemonFCThey get human shit on their shoes.Mar 29 11:44
DaemonFCAnd all for the low low cost of triple the national average cost of living.Mar 29 11:44
DaemonFChttps://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/jimdalrympleii/san-francisco-poop-patrol-street-clean-upMar 29 11:45
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techrights-newsPatents kill. Because it iis profitable. https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/28/covid-19-vaccine-apartheid-exacerbating-global-inequalities-unMar 29 11:45
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DaemonFC"The scope of the problem is staggering. According to data from the public works department, requests for feces-related steam cleaning have been steadily increasing in recent years, hitting a high of 16,473 in 2017. So far this year, there have already been 9,735 feces-related steamer requests — more than the city received during the entirety of 2015."Mar 29 11:45
DaemonFCThat was before COVID.Mar 29 11:46
DaemonFC16,473 request tickets filed over individual piles of human shit on the sidewalk in 2017.Mar 29 11:47
DaemonFCSo you know there was more, and this is how many people got on an app and complained about.Mar 29 11:47
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bnchspluton is meant for more controlMar 29 11:48
bnchssoon the laptops will be thin clients to the "cloud"Mar 29 11:48
bnchslike chromebooksMar 29 11:49
schestowitz-TRso they hope...Mar 29 11:49
schestowitz-TRso we need to fight backMar 29 11:49
schestowitz-TRand maintain demand for real computersMar 29 11:49
schestowitz-TRbtwMar 29 11:49
schestowitz-TRall those thin clientsMar 29 11:49
schestowitz-TRthey run modern gnu/linux distros OKMar 29 11:49
schestowitz-TRand have enough storageMar 29 11:49
schestowitz-TRso you look at low-cost high-endMar 29 11:49
schestowitz-TRjust need to make sure you can change/wipe themMar 29 11:49
schestowitz-TRthe companies try to make it harderMar 29 11:49
DaemonFC"The GOOLAG engineer left his $4,500 a month micro-apartment, stepped in a pile of homeless shit, and then made his way to the cafe on the end of his street for $30 bagel and coffee.....'At least I don't live in Indiana!", he said, as if trying to convince himself."Mar 29 11:50
schestowitz-TRlike having to open the device (voiding warrantee) to mess around with screwsMar 29 11:50
bnchsschestowitz-TR: i like to imagine about the thin client futureMar 29 11:50
bnchsimagine doing wrongthinkMar 29 11:50
DaemonFC"On his way back, he got mugged and witnessed yet another attack on an Asian woman..... 'At least it's not Texas!' he said under his breath."Mar 29 11:50
bnchsand your files gets locked awayMar 29 11:50
bnchsand OS deletedMar 29 11:51
schestowitz-TRwaitMar 29 11:51
schestowitz-TRimagine?Mar 29 11:51
schestowitz-TRit happenedMar 29 11:51
schestowitz-TRmany timesMar 29 11:51
bnchsyeah i knowMar 29 11:51
schestowitz-TROS deleted not yetMar 29 11:51
bnchsbut what if it was a thin clientMar 29 11:51
schestowitz-TRbut that might be nextMar 29 11:51
schestowitz-TRbut the OS is not en enablement toolMar 29 11:51
schestowitz-TRbetter keep it onMar 29 11:51
schestowitz-TRto spy on the wrongthinkerMar 29 11:51
bnchsthey can brick your computer and fuck up your dataMar 29 11:51
DaemonFC"He stepped in shit again, sighed, and filed a steam cleaning request on his app."Mar 29 11:51
bnchsyeah thats also a proMar 29 11:51
bnchsthey can also look at your filesMar 29 11:52
bnchswithout having to sneak malwareMar 29 11:52
bnchsor bullshitMar 29 11:52
schestowitz-TRbnchs: there will be a massive pushbackMar 29 11:52
schestowitz-TRalso, the companies that do this rely on a collapsing economyMar 29 11:52
schestowitz-TRand they can go underMar 29 11:52
schestowitz-TRlike other clown companies did before themMar 29 11:52
schestowitz-TRwe just need to buy timeMar 29 11:52
schestowitz-TRand call out the culpritsMar 29 11:52
bnchsyeahMar 29 11:52
schestowitz-TRnot in social control mediaMar 29 11:52
schestowitz-TRthey control thatMar 29 11:52
bnchsthey're trying to normalize it firstMar 29 11:53
DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, Jamie Zawinski checked out the Amazon "feature" that lets you request the data they admit to having on you.Mar 29 11:53
schestowitz-TRthey suppress/censor/hide itMar 29 11:53
DaemonFCIt's hundreds of ZIP files, with individual links.Mar 29 11:53
bnchsnormalize it firstMar 29 11:53
bnchsthen go with the planMar 29 11:53
schestowitz-TRif they succeedMar 29 11:53
schestowitz-TRthey lose tons opf moneyMar 29 11:53
DaemonFCAnd they contain thousands of CSV files.Mar 29 11:53
schestowitz-TRi think aws is the only one that became profitableMar 29 11:53
schestowitz-TRthe rest are a bubbleMar 29 11:53
DaemonFCThey've done it in such a way that nobody will bother.Mar 29 11:53
DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, AWS collapses and takes out "half the Web"....Mar 29 11:54
bnchsschestowitz-TR: someone asked a question for how to find powerful serversMar 29 11:54
DaemonFCMuch like the rest.Mar 29 11:54
schestowitz-TRDaemonFC: good!Mar 29 11:54
bnchsfor processing dataMar 29 11:54
schestowitz-TRdon't get me excited!Mar 29 11:54
schestowitz-TRI'm not ready yetMar 29 11:54
bnchsand someone answered with "just buy a tablet"Mar 29 11:54
bnchs"and a VPS/cloud server"Mar 29 11:54
schestowitz-TRclown serverMar 29 11:54
schestowitz-TRdoes it come with elephants and monkeys?Mar 29 11:54
schestowitz-TRand a lady that walks a tightrope?Mar 29 11:55
DaemonFCJust buy an iPad and then you too can be stuck watching hours and hours of YouTube commercials because nothing that blocks ads can access it.Mar 29 11:55
bnchsthis is an answer for a question to how to find powerful computersMar 29 11:55
schestowitz-TRwe'll post many videos and stuff that confront this visionMar 29 11:55
schestowitz-TR"every litle helps..."Mar 29 11:55
bnchsyeahMar 29 11:56
bnchstheres disservices like whatsappMar 29 11:56
bnchsthat doesnt even let you locally backupMar 29 11:57
techrights-news"U.S. regulatory enforcement and punishment for companies that rip consumers off with sneaky fees is not what you’d call… consistent." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/28/dc-ag-sues-grubhub-for-sneaky-fees-screwing-over-local-restaurants/Mar 29 11:57
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bnchsits just backup to the cloud (unencrypted btw)Mar 29 11:57
bnchsclown*Mar 29 11:57
techrights-newsPatents kill. Rich sociopaths use the patents to profit from the deaths. https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/28/global-leaders-urge-nations-eschew-weakened-trips-waiver-proposalMar 29 11:58
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techrights-news"The proposal looks simple enough. A huge portion of the regulations we all live by (such as fire safety codes, or the national electrical code) are initially written -- by industry experts" https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/03/pro-codes-act-wolf-sheeps-clothingMar 29 11:58
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bnchstheres disservices that dont even let you backup locallyMar 29 11:59
bnchsincluding iOSMar 29 11:59
techrights-news"It seems that each week another ridiculously unconstitutional “content moderation” bill pops up in another state. Beyond the fact that nearly all of these bills are preempted by federal law" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/28/apparently-unwilling-to-learn-from-florida-texass-failures-georgia-moves-forward-with-unconstitutional-content-moderation-bill/Mar 29 11:59
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DaemonFC"San Francisco faces a "challenging street population," Gordon said, adding that officials have rolled out several programs to deal with it. One program, called Pit Stop, has placed 22 staffed public toilets around the city."Mar 29 11:59
DaemonFCLOLMar 29 11:59
DaemonFCChallenging street population.Mar 29 11:59
DaemonFCThat's....wow.Mar 29 11:59
techrights-news"The FBI owes its oversight — and the public the oversight serves — plenty of answers. But let’s set our expectations any higher than reality dictates" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/28/house-judiciary-committee-wants-the-fbi-to-explain-why-it-keeps-targeting-journalists-religious-groups-and-politicians/Mar 29 11:59
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DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, San Francisco no longer has homeless. They have a challenging street population.Mar 29 12:00
schestowitz-TReveryone in SF is a dickMar 29 12:01
schestowitz-TRproblem solvedMar 29 12:01
schestowitz-TRand everyone in SF is alsoa  pussyMar 29 12:01
schestowitz-TRfrom what I gather, the original SF residents leftMar 29 12:01
schestowitz-TRthe industry wiped out the placeMar 29 12:02
schestowitz-TRand now you end up with pentagon valleyMar 29 12:02
schestowitz-TRand people like mozilla's ceo with more than $3,000,000 in annual salaryMar 29 12:02
schestowitz-TRwhile the country is over 30 trillion dollars in national debtMar 29 12:02
schestowitz-TRnot even counting personal debtMar 29 12:02
schestowitz-TRit'll collapse like USSRMar 29 12:02
schestowitz-TRmaybe by 2025Mar 29 12:02
schestowitz-TRof course it won't be portrayed as suchMar 29 12:03
schestowitz-TRas they'd rather walk into warsMar 29 12:03
schestowitz-TRmeanwhile china is still risingMar 29 12:03
schestowitz-TRand the PC I bought is made in ChinaMar 29 12:03
schestowitz-TRlike my dad said yesterday, a lot of the capital goes to china nowMar 29 12:03
schestowitz-TRnot the US brandsMar 29 12:03
schestowitz-TRthere's a deceit associated with thatMar 29 12:03
schestowitz-TRchina still seems more as it distributes the money among 1.5 billion headsMar 29 12:04
schestowitz-TRUS is already overMar 29 12:04
schestowitz-TRask most americans how they're doingMar 29 12:04
schestowitz-TRthey might say they still pay some mortgageMar 29 12:04
schestowitz-TRif youi can speak to themMar 29 12:04
schestowitz-TRif they live in a van it's harder to reach themMar 29 12:04
schestowitz-TR[12:00] <DaemonFC> schestowitz-TR, San Francisco no longer has homeless. They have a challenging street population.Mar 29 12:04
schestowitz-TRthey became "challenging street population"Mar 29 12:05
schestowitz-TRin a home that needs gas to moveMar 29 12:05
schestowitz-TRand gas is expensive, you knowMar 29 12:05
schestowitz-TRbetter poop on the pavementMar 29 12:05
DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, Homeless people living in a van have been an issue here and at the motel.Mar 29 12:05
schestowitz-TRa well known issue here with travellersMar 29 12:05
schestowitz-TR"gypsies"Mar 29 12:05
schestowitz-TRin vansMar 29 12:05
DaemonFCI didn't report them to anyone because that would just be kicking a guy while he's down.Mar 29 12:05
schestowitz-TRthey're not ethnic "gypsies"Mar 29 12:05
schestowitz-TRthe term here means trravellersMar 29 12:06
schestowitz-TRthey leave their poop behindMar 29 12:06
DaemonFCIt's not like the state of Illinois is going to help them. If anything, they'd take the kids away.Mar 29 12:06
DaemonFCPut them in some awful foster house.Mar 29 12:06
schestowitz-TRit's not their faulsMar 29 12:06
schestowitz-TRthe economy is failing themMar 29 12:06
schestowitz-TRbut heyMar 29 12:06
schestowitz-TRat least unemployement is all-time low ;-) ;-)Mar 29 12:07
schestowitz-TR"never been better"Mar 29 12:07
DaemonFCPeople buy old U-Haul vans and convert them with dining tables and beds and stuff.Mar 29 12:07
schestowitz-TRsee NYSE/NASDAQMar 29 12:07
schestowitz-TRNYSE/NASDAQ makes them smileMar 29 12:07
schestowitz-TRwhen they watch the CRTMar 29 12:07
DaemonFCThe boob tube.Mar 29 12:07
schestowitz-TRwe don't have food until Friday... but at least NYSE/NASDAQ is up todayMar 29 12:07
DaemonFCThe idiot's lantern.Mar 29 12:07
schestowitz-TRnear manilla some people live in the graveyardMar 29 12:08
schestowitz-TRthey turn tombs into shacksMar 29 12:08
schestowitz-TRand some of them are lucky to have antenna with receptionMar 29 12:08
schestowitz-TRabs/cbn among the corpsesMar 29 12:08
schestowitz-TR"look at me now!!"Mar 29 12:08
DaemonFChttps://www.mentalfloss.com/article/641152/why-is-television-called-boob-tubeMar 29 12:10
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DaemonFCToday the "vast wasteland" of ads and shit is YouTube.Mar 29 12:10
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bnchsyeahMar 29 12:10
bnchsfewer good content on youtubeMar 29 12:10
bnchsits just soulless boring videosMar 29 12:10
DaemonFCThe iPad and iPhone are the 21st century boob tube.Mar 29 12:13
DaemonFCSame effect.Mar 29 12:13
DaemonFCPeople just sitting there decaying, watching an endless procession of ads and horseshit.Mar 29 12:14
DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, Mandy was upset that I wasn't cooking larger portions of meat in the slow cooker. I said "It's meant to be served on top of rice. Besides, you hate leftovers and I'm constantly having to nag you to take the rest of it to work, even when you LIKED dinner!"Mar 29 12:15
DaemonFCHe really has gone native.Mar 29 12:15
DaemonFC"COOK MORE!" Why? "SO IT CAN ROT IN THE FRIDGE! I'LL BE OVER HERE WITH MY IPHONE!"Mar 29 12:16
bnchs"cook moar"Mar 29 12:16
bnchsamericans really do be like thisMar 29 12:16
DaemonFCI heard a figure that people waste about $300-600 worth of groceries, per year, per person here.Mar 29 12:17
DaemonFCUnbelievable.Mar 29 12:17
DaemonFCThey work for 1-2 weeks just to let the food they buy go bad.Mar 29 12:17
schestowitz-TR[12:10] <bnchs> fewer good content on youtubeMar 29 12:17
schestowitz-TRremember this:Mar 29 12:17
schestowitz-TRGOOD content Mar 29 12:17
schestowitz-TRmeansMar 29 12:17
schestowitz-TRNOT profitableMar 29 12:17
schestowitz-TRSHIT means MONEYMar 29 12:17
schestowitz-TRGulag wants to actually profit from all this 'free' hostingMar 29 12:18
schestowitz-TRvimeo now charges $10,000 or moreMar 29 12:18
schestowitz-TRterrible biz modeMar 29 12:18
DaemonFCThe reason why there's nothing good on, on Netflix or much else, is because good writing and good acting and good production value costs MONEY.Mar 29 12:18
schestowitz-TRas it's a surpriseMar 29 12:18
schestowitz-TRthey entrapped many firms and peopleMar 29 12:18
DaemonFCIf you can fill up your time slots with things that cost little money and draw people in who are susceptible to advertising, you get better returns.Mar 29 12:18
DaemonFCSo that's what you do.Mar 29 12:19
bnchsits like the creators sold out their soul to sponsorsMar 29 12:19
DaemonFCWhenever PBS puts some shows on, with rare exception, it's stuff they licensed from foreign public TV networks, like CBC and BBC.Mar 29 12:19
bnchssometimes the sponsors have strict rulesMar 29 12:20
DaemonFCIt's because PBS has been picked clean by the Republicans.Mar 29 12:20
bnchsso it makes the creator selfcensor a tonMar 29 12:20
DaemonFCThey even had to have HBO bail out Sesame Street.Mar 29 12:20
DaemonFCWhich is the longest running children's show in America, and used to be very educational.Mar 29 12:20
DaemonFCI mean, they even touched some things that were really heavy for kids, like death.Mar 29 12:20
DaemonFCWhen the actor for Mr. Hooper died, they didn't write him off as having moved away or something, the character was dead and they talked about grief and loss.Mar 29 12:21
bnchsand divorce?Mar 29 12:21
bnchsDaemonFC: i think thats betterMar 29 12:22
DaemonFChttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snuffy's_Parents_Get_a_DivorceMar 29 12:22
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bnchsits better to tell people that the character diedMar 29 12:22
DaemonFC"It never aired."Mar 29 12:22
DaemonFCYeah, divorce is a problem.Mar 29 12:22
DaemonFCAdam Ruins Everything tried to portray it as good because it's convenient.Mar 29 12:22
DaemonFCAnything "convenient" is necessarily "good" now, and that's why society falls apart. One big reason, anyway.Mar 29 12:23
bnchslolMar 29 12:23
DaemonFCIf you don't want to make dinner, nuke some burritos.Mar 29 12:23
bnchsportaying everyone convenient as goodMar 29 12:23
bnchseverything*Mar 29 12:23
DaemonFCIf you don't want to stay with the person you had kids with, get a divorce!Mar 29 12:23
bnchsthats why we have social control mediaMar 29 12:23
bnchsthe clownMar 29 12:23
DaemonFCWho cares what you fuck up? Who you fuck up!Mar 29 12:23
DaemonFCJust do whatever you want!Mar 29 12:23
bnchsand computers with locked bootlosderMar 29 12:23
DaemonFCGet on Grindr....stop brushing your teeth.Mar 29 12:23
DaemonFCIt's bad for you, but that's probably months or years away!Mar 29 12:24
DaemonFCNothing is "wrong" anymore.Mar 29 12:24
bnchsthe best way to get people using somethingMar 29 12:24
DaemonFCDon't you know that nobody likes a party pooper?Mar 29 12:24
bnchsis to make it convenientMar 29 12:24
schestowitz-TRandMar 29 12:25
bnchsnobody wants to make effortMar 29 12:25
schestowitz-TRaddictiveMar 29 12:25
schestowitz-TRso they have withdrawal symptomsMar 29 12:25
bnchsthey only want short-term pleasureMar 29 12:25
schestowitz-TRpsychological tricksMar 29 12:25
DaemonFCLike Mandy.Mar 29 12:25
schestowitz-TRpreying on insecureitiesMar 29 12:25
schestowitz-TRyour friends in FB are waitingMar 29 12:25
DaemonFCBurying himself in the room, sleeping all day and playing with a phone.Mar 29 12:25
schestowitz-TRthey worry you are a loserMar 29 12:25
schestowitz-TRgo back thereMar 29 12:25
schestowitz-TRshow them disneyworld picsMar 29 12:25
DaemonFCLike, who the fuck cares what happens in a game you tap on and watch ads to "grind"?Mar 29 12:25
schestowitz-TRfomo is another oneMar 29 12:26
DaemonFCWho is entertained by this?Mar 29 12:26
DaemonFCHonestly.Mar 29 12:26
schestowitz-TRdifferent, but also addiction-basedMar 29 12:26
schestowitz-TRthey hire psych*istsMar 29 12:26
schestowitz-TRto learn how to keep the users hooksMar 29 12:26
schestowitz-TRor course those -ists were trained to do the OPPOSITEMar 29 12:26
schestowitz-TRlike get people OFF rhew wagonMar 29 12:26
schestowitz-TRFB hires them to get people ON the WAGON and STAY thereMar 29 12:26
DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, I doubt Jewel-Osco needs many psychiatrists, but I'm sure they have them. Grocery stores are like anything else, they want to "optimize the business".Mar 29 12:27
schestowitz-TR[12:25] <DaemonFC> Burying himself in the room, sleeping all day and playing with a phone.Mar 29 12:27
DaemonFCBut the place is almost worth spending the money because they stock their shelves and clean their stores. Walmart is a disaster.Mar 29 12:27
schestowitz-TRthe important thing is that occasionalyl he leavesMar 29 12:27
bnchsschestowitz-TR: they even do deals with ISPsMar 29 12:27
schestowitz-TRto work for rich peopleMar 29 12:27
schestowitz-TR(waltonm)Mar 29 12:27
schestowitz-TRand become a consumerMar 29 12:27
bnchsyou knowMar 29 12:27
bnchsfree facebook access!*Mar 29 12:27
schestowitz-TRi.e. use the money from the walton to return it to themMar 29 12:27
bnchs*advertisment moneyMar 29 12:27
schestowitz-TRby buying "sweatshop stuff"Mar 29 12:28
schestowitz-TRwhich neither creates US joibsMar 29 12:28
DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, "Feeding the beast that kills you!"Mar 29 12:28
schestowitz-TRnor gives a fair share to the labour poolMar 29 12:28
schestowitz-TRDaemonFC: yesMar 29 12:28
schestowitz-TRit'a a vicious cycleMar 29 12:28
schestowitz-TRthat's why rianne and I consume so littleMar 29 12:29
schestowitz-TRwe reckon lowering the tax is one way not to feed the beastMar 29 12:29
schestowitz-TRand if the beasts hates you, goodMar 29 12:29
schestowitz-TRthey will try to insult youMar 29 12:29
schestowitz-TRlaugh at itMar 29 12:29
schestowitz-TR[12:27] <bnchs> free facebook access!*Mar 29 12:30
schestowitz-TRzero-ratingMar 29 12:30
schestowitz-TRthey own youMar 29 12:30
DaemonFCRobert Reich (Stallman's favorite....) says "Consumers are flush with cash!".Mar 29 12:30
schestowitz-TRrecih isn't too badMar 29 12:30
DaemonFCThe same phrase and wording that appears in dozens or hundreds of places now.Mar 29 12:30
schestowitz-TRbtw, he dated hillary clintonMar 29 12:30
schestowitz-TRages agoMar 29 12:30
schestowitz-TRthe problem is that he writes for bill's rag nowMar 29 12:30
schestowitz-TRmaybe he likes working for "rich people"Mar 29 12:30
DaemonFCMost people are not flush with cash. They're unemployed or underemployed.Mar 29 12:31
schestowitz-TRDaemonFC: waitMar 29 12:31
DaemonFCMy mother is now underemployed thanks to the Catholic Church bungling their budget.Mar 29 12:31
schestowitz-TRwheck where reichj livesMar 29 12:31
schestowitz-TRprob. n ee englandMar 29 12:31
schestowitz-TRthe nicer parts of new englandMar 29 12:31
schestowitz-TRyou cannot hang around boston in a van or tentMar 29 12:31
schestowitz-TRfar too coldMar 29 12:31
DaemonFCSure you can.Mar 29 12:32
schestowitz-TRso he might be seeing a fictional version of the countryMar 29 12:32
DaemonFCPeople idle their van for head.Mar 29 12:32
schestowitz-TR"robert, where should I invest my money"Mar 29 12:32
DaemonFC*heatMar 29 12:32
schestowitz-TRrobert: "well, there's this mutual fund thing that can furnish your pension"Mar 29 12:32
schestowitz-TRhow many USians truly have a pension?Mar 29 12:32
DaemonFCRobert Reich just repeats the party line.Mar 29 12:32
schestowitz-TRwith health covered too?Mar 29 12:32
DaemonFCLow unemployment, consumers flush with cash....Mar 29 12:32
schestowitz-TRhahahMar 29 12:33
schestowitz-TRyes, like 22 million  US millioanuresMar 29 12:33
DaemonFCHe actually thinks that we're seeing demand pull inflation.Mar 29 12:33
schestowitz-TRwhich leaves 310 million americans they 'eat'Mar 29 12:33
DaemonFCHe's delusional.Mar 29 12:33
schestowitz-TRor rent homes toMar 29 12:33
schestowitz-TRfor moneyMar 29 12:33
schestowitz-TRor for sexMar 29 12:33
DaemonFCBut then in the same article, he acknowledges that companies raise prices "because they can".Mar 29 12:33
DaemonFCWhich is not inflation.Mar 29 12:33
schestowitz-TRrightMar 29 12:33
DaemonFCIt's predatory pricing.Mar 29 12:33
schestowitz-TRit's bingeingMar 29 12:33
schestowitz-TRas pointed out elsewhereMar 29 12:34
schestowitz-TRit's cartel-like price0fixingMar 29 12:34
schestowitz-TRand sleepy is alsee at the wheelMar 29 12:34
schestowitz-TRtoo busy touring poland with nuclear code manMar 29 12:34
DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, The Tyson and Perdue chicken companies settled two major lawsuits recently.Mar 29 12:34
DaemonFCOne, that they were conspiring to charge low prices to chicken growers.Mar 29 12:34
schestowitz-TRin case he want to launch some nukes at $otherCountryMar 29 12:34
DaemonFCThen another one that they were conspiring to gouge customers at the grocery store for the chicken.Mar 29 12:34
DaemonFC*errr,,, pay low prices to producers, that is.Mar 29 12:35
schestowitz-TRwe only buy discountedMar 29 12:35
DaemonFCSo they were driving down their costs, and then price fixing at the store.Mar 29 12:35
DaemonFCTo gouge.Mar 29 12:35
schestowitz-TRor mostly, where mostly means 80% or moreMar 29 12:35
DaemonFCThey made HUGE profit this way.Mar 29 12:35
schestowitz-TRit's a "life hack"Mar 29 12:35
schestowitz-TRjust need to memorise and adapt (where, when)Mar 29 12:35
DaemonFCHillary Clinton has a history with Tyson.Mar 29 12:35
DaemonFCThey were involved in a bribery scandal when Bill was Governor of Arkansas.Mar 29 12:36
schestowitz-TRenergy companies tooMar 29 12:36
schestowitz-TRthey have record profitsMar 29 12:36
DaemonFCAnd Walmart.Mar 29 12:36
schestowitz-TRand they RAISE pricesMar 29 12:36
schestowitz-TRbut Russia "something"...Mar 29 12:36
DaemonFCHillary was there when Walmart was under fire for their "Kathy Lee Gifford" collection of handbags, which were made by child slave labor.Mar 29 12:36
schestowitz-TRHillaryMar 29 12:37
schestowitz-TRthe date of RobertMar 29 12:37
schestowitz-TRReichMar 29 12:37
DaemonFCShe was asked in a confirmation hearing once what she ever did for workers at Walmart, and she couldn't name anything.Mar 29 12:37
schestowitz-TRthey want to the movieMar 29 12:37
schestowitz-TRhe says she asked for CHEESE on her popcornMar 29 12:37
schestowitz-TRbnchs: CHEESE!Mar 29 12:37
schestowitz-TRon the popcorn!Mar 29 12:37
DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, Not many people truly appreciate classic South Park.Mar 29 12:37
bnchscheese on the popcorn?Mar 29 12:37
schestowitz-TRyeahMar 29 12:37
bnchswowMar 29 12:37
DaemonFCThe Kathy Lee Gifford one and the Mecha Streisand were two of my favorites.Mar 29 12:37
schestowitz-TRwhen robert reich and clinton went ona  dateMar 29 12:37
schestowitz-TRhe blogged about itMar 29 12:37
bnchsamericansMar 29 12:38
schestowitz-TRnot fatty enoughMar 29 12:38
schestowitz-TR"MOAR CHHHHHHHHHSSEEEE!"Mar 29 12:38
DaemonFCThey went after Hillary too, but by that point it was just stupid.Mar 29 12:38
DaemonFCThey could have really roasted Hillary, but they didn't. The whole episode was about a nuclear weapon in her vagina.Mar 29 12:38
DaemonFCIt was terrible.Mar 29 12:38
bnchsgotta need my daily unhealthy cholesterolMar 29 12:39
bnchsput cheese on everythingMar 29 12:39
DaemonFCSouth Park ran its course a long time ago.Mar 29 12:39
DaemonFCI'm surprised it's even on at all though.Mar 29 12:40
bnchswas the guy on the intro playing a banjo or a guitar?Mar 29 12:40
DaemonFCCancel Culture has been after anything that's even slightly funny.Mar 29 12:40
DaemonFCAnd it comes on after The Daily Show, which Trevor Noah took over and ruined. He turned it from satirical comedy to Black Grievance Hour.Mar 29 12:41
DaemonFC<bnchs> put cheese on everythingMar 29 12:41
DaemonFCYou forgot bacon. I demand a refund.Mar 29 12:41
DaemonFCAnd this half pound burger is supposed to be 3/4 of a pound.Mar 29 12:42
DaemonFCSo expect to hear from my attorney!Mar 29 12:42
DaemonFCAlso, I said EXTRA mayo, EXTRA!!!!!Mar 29 12:42
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DaemonFCI'm glad there's no Hardee's around here.Mar 29 12:43
DaemonFCI went downstate to get my COVID shot and I was early and there was a Hardee's next door.Mar 29 12:43
DaemonFCNext thing I knew, I was eating a 3/4 pound mushroom and swiss burger on sourdough and a large order of fries.Mar 29 12:44
DaemonFCI don't normally eat things like THAT, but when I do I do.Mar 29 12:44
schestowitz-TRdeep fry the caking frostingMar 29 12:44
schestowitz-TR*cakeMar 29 12:45
DaemonFCThey have a Culver's here, but it's like second mortgage on your house to eat there.Mar 29 12:45
DaemonFC<schestowitz-TR> deep fry the caking frostingMar 29 12:45
DaemonFCOh I know. My mom and brother have eating habits that's just junk junk junk all the time, every day.Mar 29 12:45
DaemonFCEnough salt for three days in one day's worth of food.Mar 29 12:45
DaemonFCButter on everything.Mar 29 12:46
bnchsdeep fry the cheeseMar 29 12:46
schestowitz-TRwith toffee on itMar 29 12:46
bnchsdeep fry the butter on the cheese on the bacon on the BURGERMar 29 12:46
DaemonFCAnd she's like "Why are you using reduced sodium broth and canned soups in the slow cooker?".Mar 29 12:46
DaemonFCI said, "Because I don't want my heart to explode in my face.".Mar 29 12:46
bnchslolMar 29 12:47
bnchswhy are you using reduced sodiumMar 29 12:47
bnchsyou need to go ALL OR NOTHINGMar 29 12:47
DaemonFCYou know what she said?Mar 29 12:47
DaemonFC"Now that you're on blood pressure meds, you can just go back to using the regular version.".Mar 29 12:47
DaemonFCI said, "I wasn't trying to undo the meds and go on double the dose!".Mar 29 12:48
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bnchsim on insulinMar 29 12:48
bnchstime to indulge on cakeMar 29 12:49
DaemonFCMOAR INSULIN!Mar 29 12:49
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DaemonFCWell, at a certain age, that's generally what doctors say anyway.Mar 29 12:49
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DaemonFCLike, "Just give her the Pepsi. She's 97 and we'll cover it with more insulin.".Mar 29 12:49
DaemonFCAnd that makes sense, when someone is 97 and could go at any moment.Mar 29 12:49
bnchsdude just give her everythingMar 29 12:49
bnchswe'll give her more medsMar 29 12:50
schestowitz-TR"she will be sent packiung"Mar 29 12:50
bnchsbecause fuck eatig healthyMar 29 12:50
DaemonFCBut you have people like my family, where most are diabetics in their 30s.Mar 29 12:50
DaemonFCBecause they drink soda like a baby bottle, and it's a 2 liter bottle.Mar 29 12:50
schestowitz-TRbnchs: dietary viagraMar 29 12:50
schestowitz-TRor butcheringMar 29 12:50
bnchsdaemonfc: jesusMar 29 12:50
schestowitz-TRwhat I call "plastic" "surgery"Mar 29 12:51
DaemonFCYou should NOT be a diabetic in your 30s unless it's a genetic defect or something.Mar 29 12:51
DaemonFCYou just shouldn't.Mar 29 12:51
bnchsthats like uhhhMar 29 12:51
bnchs220 grams of sugarMar 29 12:51
schestowitz-TRwowMar 29 12:51
schestowitz-TRimagine that on a tableMar 29 12:51
schestowitz-TRit's like a small bowlMar 29 12:51
schestowitz-TRso 11% sugarsMar 29 12:52
schestowitz-TRput some cheese in itMar 29 12:52
schestowitz-TRit lacks fatsMar 29 12:52
bnchsand 840 calories on that pepsi aloneMar 29 12:52
bnchsits only the matter of the rest of the foodMar 29 12:53
DaemonFCI don't drink much soda.Mar 29 12:55
DaemonFCVery occasionally.Mar 29 12:55
DaemonFCLike, maybe if it's my birthday or something and I'm at a restaurant.Mar 29 12:55
schestowitz-TRi don't always drink soda, but when I do, there's cheese in it!Mar 29 12:55
DaemonFCBacon-flavored soda.Mar 29 12:55
DaemonFCSeen it.Mar 29 12:55
schestowitz-TRis it halal?Mar 29 12:56
DaemonFCI just drink lemon water or something.Mar 29 12:56
schestowitz-TRtea, water, lemonMar 29 12:56
DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, I don't know. Probably. They use chemicals to flavor stuff.Mar 29 12:56
schestowitz-TRor coffee, water, milk/soyMar 29 12:56
DaemonFCI'm making halal chicken tonight.Mar 29 12:57
schestowitz-TRthat's like 5-10 cents a cupMar 29 12:57
DaemonFCGot some on markdown and froze it.Mar 29 12:57
schestowitz-TRin SF 5-10 dollarsMar 29 12:57
schestowitz-TRin SF you get better value for it, like sitting on a sofa with thousands of unknown farts and covid variantsMar 29 12:57
DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, Seen the bacon-dipped bullets?Mar 29 12:57
bnchsschestowitz-TR: i've seen people put cheese in noodlesMar 29 12:57
DaemonFCBullets dipped in bacon grease.Mar 29 12:58
schestowitz-TRand ceilings that seem incompleteMar 29 12:58
DaemonFCThey say they're anti-Muslim bullets.Mar 29 12:58
schestowitz-TRwith air shafts in themMar 29 12:58
bnchscheese in fucking noodlesMar 29 12:58
schestowitz-TR"it's in style now"Mar 29 12:58
DaemonFC<bnchs> cheese in fucking noodlesMar 29 12:58
bnchsmaybe put some bacon in noodlesMar 29 12:58
DaemonFCI make macaroni and cheese sometimes.Mar 29 12:58
DaemonFCBut I put spinach in mine.Mar 29 12:58
DaemonFCMandy will eat almost any vegetable as long as it's cooked.Mar 29 12:58
schestowitz-TRsome people still wear sneakers with lightsMar 29 12:59
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DaemonFCSo I sneak in fruits and vegetables on him that way.Mar 29 12:59
bnchsas long as it's deep fryed*Mar 29 12:59
schestowitz-TRor drive cars with flourescent lighting UNDER the carMar 29 12:59
DaemonFC<schestowitz-TR> or drive cars with flourescent lighting UNDER the carMar 29 12:59
DaemonFCGood way to get pulled over.Mar 29 12:59
bnchsschestowitz-TR: thats what they call glowies?Mar 29 12:59
DaemonFCDraw the cop's attention to YOU.Mar 29 12:59
bnchsglowing agentdMar 29 12:59
schestowitz-TR"ta ta DUM!!Mar 29 12:59
bnchsagents*Mar 29 13:00
DaemonFCThe only fried vegetable I can't get enough of is okra. Mar 29 13:01
DaemonFCAnd you make that in a cast iron skillet, not a deep fryer.Mar 29 13:01
DaemonFCGood with ketchup.Mar 29 13:02
DaemonFCI get the ketchup with 50% less sugar and salt.Mar 29 13:02
DaemonFCI'm not really trying to avoid sugar, but I am trying to avoid salt.Mar 29 13:02
schestowitz-TRwhat % of today's ketchup is tomatoes?Mar 29 13:03
schestowitz-TRalso, are brands like heinz more or less actyal veg?Mar 29 13:03
DaemonFCGood question. The 50% less sugar actually has sugar though.Mar 29 13:03
schestowitz-TRsome of the cheap ones feel entirely artificialMar 29 13:03
DaemonFCThe normal ketchup has High Fructose Corn Syrup.Mar 29 13:03
DaemonFCMaybe our resident failed biologist can explain why HFCS isn't bad.Mar 29 13:03
schestowitz-TRlet me check our fridgeMar 29 13:03
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DaemonFCHFCS makes no sense. The only reasons they use it in most stuff here is because of corn subsidies and sugar tariffs.Mar 29 13:04
schestowitz-TRok, it says 174grams of tomato per 100 gram of "finished product"Mar 29 13:05
schestowitz-TRso after the water is removedMar 29 13:05
schestowitz-TRa 500gram bottle of tube of it can be 800 grams of actual vegMar 29 13:05
schestowitz-TRand assuming you have just 20 grams per sevingMar 29 13:06
schestowitz-TRthat's like 30 grams raw tomatoMar 29 13:06
schestowitz-TRwhich is barely a biteMar 29 13:06
schestowitz-TRi mean a bite of the actual vegetableMar 29 13:06
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schestowitz-TRthey should call it "sugarsalt sauce"Mar 29 13:08
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DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, You can make ketchup yourself cheaper.Mar 29 13:10
DaemonFCMy great grandmother did it even well after there were cheap store-bought ketchups on the market.Mar 29 13:11
DaemonFCI've made ketchup before. In fact, I may do it again.Mar 29 13:11
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DaemonFCI bought a lot of tomato sauce and paste at Aldi at one point and to use some of it up, I might make some ketchup out of it.Mar 29 13:11
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DaemonFCOf course without preservatives, you kind of have to limit yourself as to how much to make at one time.Mar 29 13:12
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DaemonFCOne reason there is so much salt in the store-bought crap is because they're trying to preserve it.Mar 29 13:13
DaemonFCAnd bacteria doesn't thrive as well in salt solutions.Mar 29 13:13
bnchsi used to eat sweetened condensed milk Mar 29 13:13
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bnchsit was like diabetes in a canMar 29 13:13
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DaemonFCBut processed foods generally have so much salt in them you can take out a quarter to half of it and the taste doesn't change very much.Mar 29 13:14
bnchsi think i dont need to tell you how much sugar it had in one canMar 29 13:14
DaemonFCReduced sodium (by 25%) luncheon meat (Walmart's Great Value) tastes almost identical to the one with more salt.Mar 29 13:14
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DaemonFCMom always assumed when I made something out of spam it would be gross, and wouldn't eat it.Mar 29 13:15
schestowitz-TR[13:13] <bnchs> i used to eat sweetened condensed milk Mar 29 13:15
schestowitz-TRrianne loves thatMar 29 13:15
schestowitz-TRwith white pastriesMar 29 13:15
DaemonFCNow she eats it because some idiot on YouTube was talking about how they're preppers and have like 500 cans in their garage. :/Mar 29 13:15
bnchsit was straight from the canMar 29 13:15
DaemonFCSounds like grandma.Mar 29 13:15
schestowitz-TRit's seweet like madMar 29 13:15
schestowitz-TRif you do not dilute itMar 29 13:15
DaemonFCBulging oozing cans.Mar 29 13:16
DaemonFCPuts them in her car and comes over. "Now there's nothing wrong with these!".Mar 29 13:16
DaemonFC:)Mar 29 13:16
schestowitz-TRit slows down the carMar 29 13:16
bnchsschestowitz-TR didnt dilute itMar 29 13:16
schestowitz-TRor wastes fuelMar 29 13:16
DaemonFCShe dropped them off with mom and Gonad.Mar 29 13:17
DaemonFCThen when she left they dumped them in the trash.Mar 29 13:17
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DaemonFCIt's dangerous to even open the can at that point.Mar 29 13:17
DaemonFCJust toss it.Mar 29 13:17
DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, I told you Gonad broke his toe on some sugar that had hardened under Grandma's bed when they were over there helping her rearrange some things.Mar 29 13:18
DaemonFCMy brother found a can of Spaghetti-Os in grandma's garage that expired in the 1970s.Mar 29 13:19
schestowitz-TRthis is like elaine in seinfeldMar 29 13:19
schestowitz-TRtry to eat itMar 29 13:20
schestowitz-TRsee what happensMar 29 13:20
bnchslolMar 29 13:20
bnchsit might be still goodMar 29 13:20
schestowitz-TRyeahMar 29 13:20
bnchswhat could possibly happenMar 29 13:20
schestowitz-TRlike schroooomsMar 29 13:20
DaemonFChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1O9_RVik_QMar 29 13:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=F1O9_RVik_QMar 29 13:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yewtu.be | Down Perisocope XO Pascal bullies Buckman for a disorderly Galley - InvidiousMar 29 13:20
schestowitzhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naVyR6KlkWIMar 29 13:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=naVyR6KlkWIMar 29 13:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yewtu.be | Elaine eats the cake - InvidiousMar 29 13:21
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DaemonFC"I feel like I need a Tetanus shot just looking at it. The only thing holding it together are the bird droppings." Down Periscope.... :PMar 29 13:34
DaemonFCThat's kind of describing my car too.Mar 29 13:34
DaemonFChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mN3z3eSVG7AMar 29 13:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=mN3z3eSVG7AMar 29 13:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yewtu.be | Reagan tells Soviet jokes - InvidiousMar 29 13:36
DaemonFC"There's a 10 year wait on an automobile in the Soviet Union and you have to put up a lot of money when you buy, and only one in seven families there owns one.".Mar 29 13:37
DaemonFCThat's how the United States is getting under Biden.Mar 29 13:37
DaemonFCPretty soon nobody will even be able to get to work because there will be no repair parts for their car and a new one has doubled in price.Mar 29 13:37
matey<bnchs> what could possibly happen <- even if it didnt kill you, youd still be begging for deathMar 29 13:37
DaemonFC"So a guy goes in to buy a car and puts down his money and the guy behind the counter says 'Okay, come back in ten years and get your car.'. So the guy asks, 'Morning or afternoon?'. The guy behind the counter says, 'It's ten years from now, so what difference does it make?', and the guy says, 'Well, the plumber's coming in the morning.'".Mar 29 13:40
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bnchsoh we use microsoft adsMar 29 13:42
bnchsbut dont worry, microsoft doesnt collect and sell your dataMar 29 13:42
techrights-newsReminder: DuckDuckGo is just Microsoft criminals... by proxy https://files.catbox.moe/wi532d.png more details in http://techrights.org/wiki/DuckDuckGoMar 29 13:42
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schestowitz-TRGab is a Microaoft shillMar 29 13:43
schestowitz-TRit's Microsoft painting itself as privacyMar 29 13:43
schestowitz-TRwhile trash-talking GulagMar 29 13:43
schestowitz-TRI am angered when I see FS browser defaulting to MicrosofMar 29 13:43
schestowitz-TReven some distrosMar 29 13:43
schestowitz-TRas if DDG is "good"Mar 29 13:44
schestowitz-TRbecause... MicrosoftMar 29 13:44
schestowitz-TRpeople choose gnu/linux to get AWAY from MicrosoftMar 29 13:44
bnchsi never realized ddg was hosted on microsoft azureMar 29 13:45
bnchsand used microsoft's ad networkMar 29 13:45
bnchsand used microsoft bingMar 29 13:45
bnchstoo good to be trueMar 29 13:45
mateypeople choose gnu/linux to get AWAY from Microsoft <- not anymoreMar 29 13:49
mateyit would be nice if you could get away from microsoft with the choice of gnu/linuxMar 29 13:49
mateythey are in your linux kernel (waiting to add rust too)Mar 29 13:50
mateyand theyre in gnuMar 29 13:50
mateyand theyre in the applicationsMar 29 13:50
mateywhy not get into your search results?Mar 29 13:50
mateybut roy is funny, he says they dont have a way to make money. i didnt know he was a libertarian "trust the invisible hand!"Mar 29 13:51
bnchsrust is too unstableMar 29 13:51
mateythe invisible hand sure gives us the visible finger a lot.Mar 29 13:51
matey<bnchs> rust is too unstable <- that of course is why they want it thereMar 29 13:52
bnchsyou dont see windows kernel written in rustMar 29 13:52
bnchsin fact maidadans says linux is bad because memory unsafe languageMar 29 13:52
bnchsbut he doesnt say the same thing about windows NTMar 29 13:52
bnchswhich is written in CMar 29 13:52
mateythe windows kernel is unstable enough, its only held together with the bird droppings from daemonfcs can of spaghettios from the  1970sMar 29 13:53
matey<bnchs> in fact maidadans says linux is bad because memory unsafe language <- sounds like hes in a cultMar 29 13:53
matey"dont look at programs written in c, theyll make your palms hairy and give you cancer!"Mar 29 13:53
matey<bnchs> which is written in <- i would have thought nt was written in c++, but i wouldnt be surprised if it was bothMar 29 13:54
bnchsnoMar 29 13:55
bnchsi think the kernel is written in CMar 29 13:55
bnchsand most of the other crap in c++Mar 29 13:55
mateyspaghettiOSMar 29 13:55
mateynow with rust kernelMar 29 13:55
mateythey really should rename windows spaghettiOSMar 29 13:56
mateylike they call internet exploiter "edge" nowMar 29 13:56
bnchshe encourages the use of windowsMar 29 13:56
bnchseven though its written in a memory unsafe languageMar 29 13:57
matey<bnchs> he encourages the use of windows <- hes probably an idiotMar 29 13:57
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matey"Windows NT is written in C and C++, with a very small amount written in assembly language. C is mostly used for the kernel code while C++ is mostly used for user-mode code."Mar 29 14:07
schestowitz-TRthey reject their own frameworksMar 29 14:08
schestowitz-TRas usualMar 29 14:08
schestowitz-TRmicrosoft: use c#Mar 29 14:08
schestowitz-TRunlike usMar 29 14:09
schestowitz-TRc# is good, honest!Mar 29 14:09
schestowitz-TRjust not for this... or that... or thisMar 29 14:09
mateyits good for a laughMar 29 14:09
schestowitz-TRit's aother fadMar 29 14:10
schestowitz-TR#cMar 29 14:10
schestowitz-TRhastagsMar 29 14:10
schestowitz-TRc#Mar 29 14:10
matey#C#Mar 29 14:10
schestowitz-TRsocial control media will be like mysapce in 5-10 yearsMar 29 14:10
schestowitz-TRsometimes most people stopped bothering withMar 29 14:10
schestowitz-TRthe new usenetMar 29 14:10
schestowitz-TR*somethingMar 29 14:10
schestowitz-TRnow those platforms "borrow time" from celebsMar 29 14:11
schestowitz-TRand politicanns and atheletes Mar 29 14:11
schestowitz-TRamplifying themMar 29 14:11
schestowitz-TRto make it seem like those platfforms are still very biugMar 29 14:11
schestowitz-TRby concentrating all the active users in very few placeMar 29 14:11
schestowitz-TRfootball clubs, combative politics, sex...Mar 29 14:11
mateypuppylinux.com was a ddos attackMar 29 14:15
matey"the host" shut it down to respond to the attackMar 29 14:15
schestowitz-TRso microsoft shut the account down?Mar 29 14:15
schestowitz-TRhahahaMar 29 14:15
schestowitz-TRwell done, microsoftMar 29 14:15
schestowitz-TRwe handled the ddosMar 29 14:15
schestowitz-TRno domainMar 29 14:15
schestowitz-TRno issuesMar 29 14:15
schestowitz-TRsee? solved.Mar 29 14:15
schestowitz-TRmatey: my tumour is goneMar 29 14:16
schestowitz-TRI removed the legMar 29 14:16
matey"shoot the hostage, take them out of the equation"-- keanu reaves, speedMar 29 14:16
schestowitz-TRanyway, they shut down the domain without consulting the ownerMar 29 14:16
schestowitz-TRbeausee, you knoiwMar 29 14:17
schestowitz-TRmicrosoft has no resourcesMar 29 14:17
schestowitz-TRlike staff that contacts peopleMar 29 14:17
schestowitz-TRor serversMar 29 14:17
schestowitz-TRor firewallsMar 29 14:17
schestowitz-TRit's cheaperMar 29 14:17
schestowitz-TRchop off the whole legMar 29 14:17
schestowitz-TRto spite the toeMar 29 14:17
matey"The host suspended puppylinux.com without any notification or explanation. If that seems a bit rude, yes, it is. A decent host provider should give an explanation." -- barryMar 29 14:17
schestowitz-TRmicrosoft loves linux... OFFLINEMar 29 14:17
schestowitz-TRthe first host we hadMar 29 14:18
schestowitz-TRas boycottnovell.comMar 29 14:18
schestowitz-TRssupended [sic] the accountMar 29 14:18
schestowitz-TRbut told us firstMar 29 14:18
mateyerik (who maintains the forum) later told barry about the reply he got to the support ticket "We have a serious problem of DDOS attack. I noticed this but hoped it wasn't so. The host shut us down and I am fighting to get us back up "Mar 29 14:18
schestowitz-TRdue to ddosMar 29 14:18
schestowitz-TRit was shared hostingMar 29 14:18
schestowitz-TRnot microsoftMar 29 14:18
schestowitz-TRthey had limited resourcesMar 29 14:19
schestowitz-TR"the host"Mar 29 14:19
schestowitz-TRMicrosoftMar 29 14:19
schestowitz-TRthe nameless hostMar 29 14:19
schestowitz-TRimho, they are shy to name itMar 29 14:19
schestowitz-TReven barryMar 29 14:19
schestowitz-TRas people might respondMar 29 14:19
schestowitz-TR"wait, WHAT?"Mar 29 14:19
schestowitz-TRdownload puppy from microsoftMar 29 14:20
schestowitz-TRanother microsoft distro?Mar 29 14:20
schestowitz-TRone it had running by unpaid volunteers?Mar 29 14:20
techrights-newsKDE Plasma 5.24.4 LTS Released with More Plasma Wayland Improvements, Other Fixes • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163105Mar 29 14:21
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mateyi think most people that still use puppy have accepted where it comes fromMar 29 14:22
schestowitz-TRfrom the same place "protestware" comes fromMar 29 14:23
schestowitz-TRsame companyMar 29 14:23
schestowitz-TRnew name for malwareMar 29 14:23
schestowitz-TR"protestware"Mar 29 14:23
schestowitz-TRsent to you by microsoftMar 29 14:23
schestowitz-TRbut blame "open source"Mar 29 14:23
schestowitz-TRtells us microsoft- and gates-funded mediaMar 29 14:23
mateythey proably see microsoft as the victim in that instanceMar 29 14:23
schestowitz-TRINCLUDING SJVNMar 29 14:23
schestowitz-TRSJ f'ing NMar 29 14:23
mateybeing forced to host malware against their will!Mar 29 14:23
schestowitz-TRyeahMar 29 14:24
schestowitz-TRand not checking what it sendsMar 29 14:24
schestowitz-TRthat's expensiveMar 29 14:24
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schestowitz-TRit means checking what you shipMar 29 14:24
mateywhat sucks the most isMar 29 14:24
schestowitz-TRlike wordpress used to do and probably still doesMar 29 14:24
mateytheres no longer a group of people that knows betterMar 29 14:24
schestowitz-TRthe media is a circusMar 29 14:24
schestowitz-TRa circus with clownMar 29 14:24
mateytheres no longer a haven from this madnessMar 29 14:24
schestowitz-TRwhere smart means dronesMar 29 14:24
schestowitz-TRfbi has issues a report about russian protestwareMar 29 14:25
schestowitz-TRit's protesting against the US power gridMar 29 14:25
schestowitz-TRit can delete files and stuffMar 29 14:25
schestowitz-TRto protestMar 29 14:25
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schestowitz-TRFBI ordered pizza for the protesters in moscowMar 29 14:25
schestowitz-TRUS and Israel wrote protestware StucnetMar 29 14:26
schestowitz-TRthey muck about with nuclear weaponsMar 29 14:26
schestowitz-TRit's a form of protestMar 29 14:26
schestowitz-TRhospitals in the UK were protested againstMar 29 14:27
mateyisrael protests palestinian homes with bulldozersMar 29 14:27
schestowitz-TRwith shadow broker toolsMar 29 14:27
schestowitz-TRsome east asian protested against british hospital treating ill patientsMar 29 14:27
schestowitz-TRmatey: putin is protesting against natoiMar 29 14:28
schestowitz-TRby shelling schoolsMar 29 14:28
schestowitz-TRone person's terrorist is another person freedom protesterMar 29 14:28
schestowitz-TR18 terrorists protested US occupation in the middle eastMar 29 14:28
schestowitz-TRthey protested with planesMar 29 14:29
schestowitz-TRsnakes on a planeMar 29 14:29
schestowitz-TRwith box cuttersMar 29 14:29
schestowitz-TRhitler "protested" against the bolsheviksMar 29 14:29
schestowitz-TRbrandon was a well-meaning porotestersMar 29 14:29
mateystalin protested against them tooMar 29 14:29
schestowitz-TRhe deleted millions of filesMar 29 14:29
schestowitz-TRbut they were of ordinary russiansMar 29 14:30
schestowitz-TR"good one, brandon, LOL"Mar 29 14:30
mateyis windows protestware?Mar 29 14:30
mateytheyre protesting the fact that competitors existMar 29 14:30
techrights-newsICBM pushing complexity drugs again https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/3/3-reasons-containers-essential-midsize-organizationsMar 29 14:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | Kubernetes: 3 reasons containers are becoming essential for midsize organizations | The Enterprisers ProjectMar 29 14:31
mateyby screwing up the computers of ordinary usersMar 29 14:31
matey"i ran a scan of my computer and found out someone had installed windows on it"Mar 29 14:31
matey"probably the russians"Mar 29 14:31
techrights-newsICBM perpetuating the "worker shortage MYTH": "You probably already know some of the top challenges that IT leaders will face in 2022 – finding (and retaining) top talent, keeping up with security challenges, and managing remote teams." https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/3/it-leadership-4-ways-tackle-your-flawsMar 29 14:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | IT leadership: 4 ways to tackle your flaws | The Enterprisers ProjectMar 29 14:32
mateybut yeah, as far as trusting microsoft goesMar 29 14:32
mateypretty much everyone does nowMar 29 14:32
schestowitz-TRI need to download anti-protest softwareMar 29 14:32
schestowitz-TRI herad microsoft ships lots of "protests"Mar 29 14:33
schestowitz-TRthrough shithub and npmMar 29 14:33
mateyprotesthubMar 29 14:33
matey/me thinks protesthub protests too muchMar 29 14:33
schestowitz-TRsounds like a video siteMar 29 14:33
schestowitz-TRwith "rich people"Mar 29 14:33
schestowitz-TRrick (allen jones) peopleMar 29 14:34
schestowitz-TRrick has a big stashMar 29 14:34
schestowitz-TRno need for gmail, he can start a hosting company with bill and jeffMar 29 14:34
schestowitz-TRand other rich peopleMar 29 14:34
mateycall it bing, incMar 29 14:34
schestowitz-TRah yesMar 29 14:35
schestowitz-TRhe has competiton alreadyMar 29 14:35
schestowitzhttps://www.pcmag.com/news/report-microsofts-bing-serves-up-recommends-child-pornMar 29 14:36
-altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: pcmag.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.pcmag.com/news/report-microsofts-bing-serves-up-recommends-child-pornMar 29 14:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Report: Microsoft's Bing Serves Up, Recommends Child Porn | PCMagMar 29 14:36
schestowitzhttps://techcrunch.com/2019/01/10/unsafe-search/ https://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-bing-child-porn-problem-report-2019-1Mar 29 14:36
-altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: techcrunch.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://techcrunch.com/2019/01/10/unsafe-search/Mar 29 14:36
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft Bing not only shows child sexual abuse, it suggests it – TechCrunchMar 29 14:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.businessinsider.com | Microsoft's Bing Had a Child Porn Problem: ReportMar 29 14:36
matey"customers who viewed this also liked..."Mar 29 14:37
schestowitzlife imitates art - billgMar 29 14:37
schestowitzhttps://www.cnet.com/news/microsofts-bing-search-engine-served-up-child-porn-report-says/Mar 29 14:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft's Bing search engine served up child porn, report says - CNETMar 29 14:37
schestowitzhttps://gizmodo.com/microsoft-refuses-to-answer-key-questions-about-child-p-1831655413Mar 29 14:37
-altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: gizmodo.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://gizmodo.com/microsoft-refuses-to-answer-key-questions-about-child-p-1831655413Mar 29 14:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gizmodo.com | Microsoft Refuses to Answer Key Questions About Child Porn in Bing's Search ResultsMar 29 14:37
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2019/01/12/linspyware/Mar 29 14:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linspire ‘Reborn’ is Still Working for Microsoft and Facilitating Surveillance on GNU/Linux Users | TechrightsMar 29 14:38
mateyanother gnu project admin that still trusts microsoft in 2022 https://github.com/agordonMar 29 14:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-agordon (A. Gordon) · GitHubMar 29 14:39
mateyim telling you, gnu developers dont care.Mar 29 14:39
mateythats one of the admins of gnu sedMar 29 14:40
mateyyou know, the "linux command"Mar 29 14:40
mateythe other is  jim meyeringMar 29 14:40
mateyto be fair, assaf cares a LITTLEMar 29 14:40
mateyhis mirrors of sed and datamash are readonly.Mar 29 14:40
mateybut thats not all hes using github for Mar 29 14:41
techrights-news"This article covers the highlights of the C++ standardization proposals before the International Organization for Standardization (ISO) committee's Core and Evolution Working Groups last year. Read on to find out what's coming in C++23." https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/03/29/c-standardization-core-language-progress-2021Mar 29 14:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developers.redhat.com | C++ standardization (core language) progress in 2021 | Red Hat DeveloperMar 29 14:41
mateyeveryone works for microsoftMar 29 14:41
mateyeveryone trusts microsoftMar 29 14:41
MinceR(cat) (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Zgs4ztse2wMar 29 14:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=3Zgs4ztse2wMar 29 14:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yewtu.be | Tabby cat missed me so much, she was so happy to see me again - InvidiousMar 29 14:41
techrights-news"Rate limiting is a popular technique to protect services from excessive demand. For example, you can use this strategy to limit how often a user can enter or reset their password." https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/03/29/develop-basic-rate-limiter-quarkus-and-redisMar 29 14:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developers.redhat.com | Develop a basic rate limiter with Quarkus and Redis | Red Hat DeveloperMar 29 14:41
matey118 contributions in the past year. 95 repositoriesMar 29 14:42
schestowitz-TRMicrosoft loves childrenMar 29 14:42
mateyself-destruction reigns in the free software movementMar 29 14:42
psydruidMicrosoft is trustMar 29 14:42
schestowitz-TReverybody loves raymondMar 29 14:42
schestowitz-TRpsydruid: also secureMar 29 14:43
schestowitz-TRlike secure bootMar 29 14:43
schestowitz-TRif NSA says it's OK to boot, then bootMar 29 14:43
mateyunless theres a ddosMar 29 14:43
mateythen shut it downMar 29 14:43
techrights-news#HowTo Install Angular Js on Linux • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163106Mar 29 14:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How to Install Angular Js on Linux | Tux MachinesMar 29 14:43
mateyi wonder what happens (i have no such ambitions) if you ddos a github projectMar 29 14:43
mateydo they suspend it too?Mar 29 14:43
schestowitz-TRshutting it down solves the issueMar 29 14:44
schestowitz-TRthe customer ceases to existMar 29 14:44
schestowitz-TR"off the books'Mar 29 14:44
mateyslitaz moved to github to get away from a ddos lasting monthsMar 29 14:44
mateythey finally left (github) again, but thats incredibly rareMar 29 14:44
mateymoving there then awayMar 29 14:44
psydruidthe hardware world needs to go through the same change the software world went throughMar 29 14:44
mateypsydruid: yesMar 29 14:45
psydruidjust don't expect the incumbent behemoths to simply accept thisMar 29 14:45
mateyof course notMar 29 14:45
techrights-newsFedora Linux 36 Beta Is Out with the GNOME 42 Desktop Environment and Linux Kernel 5.17 • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163107Mar 29 14:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora Linux 36 Beta Is Out with the GNOME 42 Desktop Environment and Linux Kernel 5.17 | Tux MachinesMar 29 14:45
mateywhat we are seeing now is just how much capitalism hates people trying to become even a little autonomousMar 29 14:46
schestowitz-TRit's not like capitalism is a personMar 29 14:46
schestowitz-TRor a companyMar 29 14:47
schestowitz-TRit's a frameworkMar 29 14:47
schestowitz-TRsystem with actorsMar 29 14:47
mateyno, capitalism isnt a person-- its a whole bunch of rich and powerful arseholes.Mar 29 14:47
schestowitz-TRso they're creating certain conditionsMar 29 14:47
schestowitz-TRlike conditioning people to have kidsMar 29 14:47
schestowitz-TRthat produces more consumersMar 29 14:47
schestowitz-TRotherwise you have a japanMar 29 14:47
schestowitz-TRor singapoure/koreaMar 29 14:47
schestowitz-TRwhere you have to really push hard to get people to replicateMar 29 14:47
mateythats funnyMar 29 14:48
schestowitz-TRoversupply of people also lowers salariesMar 29 14:48
mateyin most places all you have to do to push to get someone to replicate is... well...Mar 29 14:48
schestowitz-TRkeep enough of them unemployedMar 29 14:48
schestowitz-TRand then they'd work for anythingMar 29 14:48
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mateyso something like half (maybe less than half) of the gnu project admins work for microsoftMar 29 14:50
mateybut theyre still not keen on moving the gnu project thereMar 29 14:51
mateymost of them at leastMar 29 14:51
mateybut if its not gnu, fuck it, sure, use github, why notMar 29 14:51
mateysomehow they get that its bad to put gnu there-- but not that its bad for anything elseMar 29 14:51
mateytheyve compartmentalised itMar 29 14:51
schestowitz-TRbribery is inclusive of diversity and inclusionMar 29 14:52
schestowitz-TRwe must be inclusive of microsoftMar 29 14:52
schestowitz-TRCoC is compatible with crimesMar 29 14:52
schestowitz-TRand corruptionMar 29 14:52
mateyits not a bribe, its a contribution to free softwareMar 29 14:52
schestowitz-TRjust be polite and professional about itMar 29 14:52
schestowitz-TRand don't murder the wife like hans reiser didMar 29 14:52
mateythe fact that it puts free software in a worse position is just an unfortunate side effectMar 29 14:52
schestowitz-TRthere MIGHT be something in the CoCMar 29 14:52
schestowitz-TRabout murdering the wifeMar 29 14:52
schestowitz-TRMIGHTMar 29 14:52
mateycompletely unanticipatedMar 29 14:52
mateythere was always an unwritten coc about murdering your wifeMar 29 14:53
mateymost people have no problem with that ruleMar 29 14:53
schestowitz-TRwhat abpit bribery?Mar 29 14:53
schestowitz-TRwould microsoft object to such a coc?Mar 29 14:53
mateyif you murder your wife, people tend to lose interest in your filesystem and find an alternativeMar 29 14:53
schestowitz-TRwould it... BRIBE... to undermine such coc proposal?Mar 29 14:54
mateyits not a hard rule, but its what typically happensMar 29 14:54
schestowitz-TRbecause that would mean all microsoft employees get banned from ALL major projectsMar 29 14:54
mateybecause that would mean all microsoft employees get banned from ALL major projects <- to dare to dreamMar 29 14:54
mateyscientology is a cult-- the only country i know of that recognises this formally is germanyMar 29 14:55
mateymicrosoft is also a cult-- the fsf does not even recognise it as suchMar 29 14:55
mateyi think its a bit dangerous for entire countries to decide what is and isnt a cultMar 29 14:56
mateybut i also think its a bit dangerous for the fsf to not recognise what theyre dealing withMar 29 14:56
mateyand by a bit dangerous i mean it will be their undoing (if it hasnt already)Mar 29 14:57
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mateykuhn may or may not realise it but hes going to push for a code of ethics in software projectsMar 29 14:59
mateyso instead of corporations just imposing their cultural norms onto free softwareMar 29 14:59
mateytheyll be imposing their "ethical standards" tooMar 29 14:59
mateythe only truly free software left will be whatever runs the fuck away from this shitMar 29 15:00
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mateyand the gnu project will be hard-pressed to accept a code of ethicsMar 29 15:00
schestowitz-TRgnu rejected cocMar 29 15:01
schestowitz-TRit did the kind comms thingMar 29 15:01
schestowitz-TRbut never a cocMar 29 15:01
mateyyes and went with coc liteMar 29 15:01
mateywhich wasnt entirely stupidMar 29 15:01
schestowitz-TRrms wasn't senile at the timeMar 29 15:01
schestowitz-TRand he pushed backMar 29 15:01
schestowitz-TRlots of stuff in stallman.org likely violates a template cocMar 29 15:02
mateyim trying to think of what they might call the ethical equivalent of the kind guidelinesMar 29 15:02
schestowitz-TRand rms wants to still protects free speechMar 29 15:02
mateybut then again, the board already has a code of ethics, so :)Mar 29 15:02
schestowitz-TReven if you're a raving hater like esrMar 29 15:02
mateytheyve already capitulatedMar 29 15:02
mateyoh, your position on esr is one i wish i understoodMar 29 15:02
mateyi have no idea what it isMar 29 15:02
mateya raving hater of whom?Mar 29 15:03
schestowitz-TRleftistsMar 29 15:03
schestowitz-TResr has every right to speakMar 29 15:03
mateysureMar 29 15:03
schestowitz-TRbut not encourage violenceMar 29 15:03
schestowitz-TRbut I don't have to agree or respect what he saysMar 29 15:03
mateyof courseMar 29 15:03
mateyyou have as much right to disagree as he does to speakMar 29 15:04
schestowitz-TRsome people think esr should be deploatformedMar 29 15:04
schestowitz-TRone of them gets over $3,000,000Mar 29 15:04
mateydeplatformed from what?Mar 29 15:04
schestowitz-TRand lives in Bay AreaMar 29 15:04
schestowitz-TRsipping latte with a decade of two she has left to liveMar 29 15:04
mateyis he a youtuber? facebooker? githubber? Mar 29 15:04
schestowitz-TRsociopaths on their high thronesMar 29 15:04
schestowitz-TRtalking down people whose difficulties they fail to graspMar 29 15:04
schestowitz-TRbtw, esr is in a bad place financially, which is connected to his healthMar 29 15:05
mateyi never see the esr these people talk about-- probably because i pay no attention to esr Mar 29 15:05
mateysure so he will be deplatformed by obesity i guessMar 29 15:05
schestowitz-TRmorbidMar 29 15:05
mateyhes craig mundies worst nightmare thoughMar 29 15:06
schestowitz-TRhahaMar 29 15:06
schestowitz-TRh met him onceMar 29 15:06
schestowitz-TRfor 10 secondsMar 29 15:06
matey/me tsksMar 29 15:06
schestowitz-TRin side the liftMar 29 15:06
schestowitz-TRus: elevatorMar 29 15:06
mateyyepMar 29 15:06
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mateyi always think of that quoteMar 29 15:07
schestowitz-TRwhere is craug now?Mar 29 15:07
mateywhen i think of what open source has becomeMar 29 15:07
schestowitz-TRstill delivering anti-gpl talks in unis?Mar 29 15:07
mateywhere is craug now? <- at a guess, doing better than esrMar 29 15:07
mateymaybe working or github, who knowsMar 29 15:07
schestowitz-TRmeeting rich peopleMar 29 15:07
mateyraig James Mundie is Senior Advisor to the CEO at Microsoft and its former Chief Research and Strategy Officer. More at "Wikipedia"Mar 29 15:07
mateynot was, isMar 29 15:07
mateyid rather that esr was right of courseMar 29 15:08
mateythat he WAS microsofts "worst nightmare"Mar 29 15:08
schestowitz-TRso he is still involved in the crimeMar 29 15:08
mateyonly thats not what happenedMar 29 15:08
schestowitz-TRsaid perenesMar 29 15:08
mateyosi became a battering ram FOR microsoft, not OF itMar 29 15:08
schestowitz-TR"but that's what actually happened!!"Mar 29 15:08
schestowitz-TRrevolution OSMar 29 15:08
schestowitz-TRperens is mostly bald nowMar 29 15:08
mateyperens was fucking adorable in that filmMar 29 15:08
mateyhe was such a loveable dorkMar 29 15:09
schestowitz-TRturtleneck bruceMar 29 15:09
mateyi wonder if debian made him cynicalMar 29 15:09
mateyim not saying he abandoned his values or anythingMar 29 15:09
mateybruce is a fucking mysteryMar 29 15:09
schestowitz-TRhe's like rob madlaMar 29 15:09
mateydont know himMar 29 15:09
schestowitz-TRwas very high profile at one pointMar 29 15:09
schestowitz-TRnow shows up once iun a few years, does a pony trick, disappears againMar 29 15:10
schestowitz-TR*maldaMar 29 15:10
mateyWhile Rob—don't call him Robert—Malda may fit the irreverent hacker stereotype, his finest hack does not. Malda is founder of Holland, MI-based SlashdotMar 29 15:10
mateyoh, sorry robMar 29 15:11
mateyi think slashdot was microsofts worst nightmare tooMar 29 15:11
mateywasMar 29 15:11
mateyapparently their worst nightmare is to have someone attack them and then come out on top stronger than ever beforeMar 29 15:12
mateyof course when i say "stronger than ever before" i am exaggerating a littleMar 29 15:12
mateywith any luck its more like an enormous jenga tower reaching into the stratosphereMar 29 15:12
mateyimpressive and foreboding but all the more unstable for itMar 29 15:13
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mateybut still you see people propping it up-- what are you crazy?Mar 29 15:13
mateyhalf the gnu admins perhapsMar 29 15:13
mateyhavent got a better idea!Mar 29 15:13
mateyits the only repo on the internet!Mar 29 15:13
matey"you wouldnt use savannah?" "fuck no, i already have to use that shit for gnu"Mar 29 15:14
mateyyou may think im dissing savannah-- i would definitely choose it if github was the only other choiseMar 29 15:14
mateybut theres a lot of hate for it, and pretending there isnt wont help solve the mysteryMar 29 15:14
mateyif nothing else it means you dont have to use githubMar 29 15:15
MinceR(audio:music) https://hugelolcdn.com/v/818715.mp4Mar 29 15:15
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mateyoh, rob maldaMar 29 15:15
mateyyou should have said cmdrtaco, thats a name i knowMar 29 15:16
MinceR:>Mar 29 15:16
mateywasnt he in half-revolution os?Mar 29 15:16
mateyand of course: https://github.com/CmdrTacoMar 29 15:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-CmdrTaco (Rob Malda) · GitHubMar 29 15:17
schestowitz-TRewwMar 29 15:17
schestowitz-TRbut which year?Mar 29 15:18
mateyhey only one repoMar 29 15:18
mateythats what im checking nowMar 29 15:18
schestowitz-TR /. was enemy of microsoftMar 29 15:18
schestowitz-TRso the criminals took over itMar 29 15:18
mateyhe just joined this yearMar 29 15:18
schestowitz-TRthen used it to promote the famous criminalsMar 29 15:18
schestowitz-TRand many regulars fledMar 29 15:18
mateycould it be fake? one repo, january 2022Mar 29 15:18
schestowitz-TRyesMar 29 15:18
mateySURELY hes heard about the purchase by nowMar 29 15:18
schestowitz-TRfake maybeMar 29 15:19
mateysee when i find a repo like this, i ignore itMar 29 15:19
mateyits not compelling.Mar 29 15:19
mateyits not "oh this person uses github"Mar 29 15:19
mateyits nothing. i dont LIKE it, but its not "significant"Mar 29 15:19
mateyi avoid counting non-data like this.Mar 29 15:19
schestowitz-TRmaybe kathleen is trolling himMar 29 15:19
mateyhehMar 29 15:19
schestowitz-TR"one more time and I'll create an account with your name in Microsoft Shit"Mar 29 15:20
schestowitz-TR"and the time after that I add a repo"Mar 29 15:20
schestowitz-TR(still better than throwing dishes)Mar 29 15:20
matey"WaPo Labs" <- i didnt think he was still at wapoMar 29 15:20
schestowitz-TR"that escalates quicklyMar 29 15:20
mateyoh, BEZOS!Mar 29 15:20
schestowitz-TR(Kathleen uploads Craig Mundie nudes into rob's fake account)Mar 29 15:21
schestowitz-TRyesMar 29 15:21
schestowitz-TRshort stintMar 29 15:21
schestowitz-TRiirc, it was around the bezos timeMar 29 15:21
schestowitz-TRor just beforeMar 29 15:21
schestowitz-TRI think shortly afterMar 29 15:21
mateyso this is one of the weirdest things ive seen on githubMar 29 15:21
mateyits in maldas nameMar 29 15:22
schestowitz-TRand lasted almost no time... just discredited himMar 29 15:22
schestowitz-TRthe thing he 'created'... and failed atMar 29 15:22
schestowitz-TRtorvalds did linux and gitMar 29 15:22
mateyone repo, updated this yearMar 29 15:22
schestowitz-TRrms did gnu, fsf and lots moreMar 29 15:22
matey700 commitsMar 29 15:22
schestowitz-TRhis name or nickname?Mar 29 15:23
schestowitz-TRthere is a whole cult-like following associated with itMar 29 15:23
schestowitz-TR"slashdot subculture"Mar 29 15:23
schestowitz-TRwith its own famous jokesMar 29 15:23
mateyrob "cmdrtaco" maldaMar 29 15:23
mateyso bothMar 29 15:23
schestowitz-TRlike rockyMar 29 15:23
matey"wapo labs"Mar 29 15:24
schestowitz-TRso maybe it's himMar 29 15:24
schestowitz-TRin zrizona?Mar 29 15:24
schestowitz-TR*azMar 29 15:24
schestowitz-TRnevada?Mar 29 15:24
mateynot one pr so we cant date it unless we assume it started on gh, didnt move thereMar 29 15:24
schestowitz-TRhe spoke to me in twitterMar 29 15:24
schestowitz-TRhe was busy killing time with video gamesMar 29 15:24
mateyive seen gh issues dating back to the 90s, github didnt exist thenMar 29 15:24
mateyso gh issues cant be used to date anythingMar 29 15:24
schestowitz-TRmaybe it's a mirrorMar 29 15:25
schestowitz-TRlike he has it going locallyMar 29 15:25
mateyit doesnt look like a mirror, its got 700 commits (which of course wouldnt prove its not a mirror)Mar 29 15:25
mateyi think he put it up while at wapoMar 29 15:25
mateybut its still being updatedMar 29 15:25
schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slashdot#CultureMar 29 15:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Slashdot - WikipediaMar 29 15:25
schestowitz"As an online community with primarily user-generated content, many in-jokes and internet memes have developed over the course of the site's history. A popular meme (based on an unscientific Slashdot user poll[66]) is, "In Soviet Russia, noun verb you!"[67] This type of joke has its roots in the 1960s or earlier, and is known as a "Russian reversal". Other popular memes usually pertain to computing or technology, such as "Imagine a Beowulf cluster Mar 29 15:26
schestowitzof these",[68] "But does it run Linux?",[69] or "Netcraft now confirms: BSD (or some other software package or item) is dying."[70] Users will also typically refer to articles referring to data storage and data capacity by inquiring how much it is in units of Libraries of Congress.[71] Sometimes bandwidth speeds are referred to in units of Libraries of Congress per second. When numbers are quoted, people will comment that the number happens to be Mar 29 15:26
schestowitzthe "combination to their luggage" (a reference to the Mel Brooks film Spaceballs) and express false anger at the person who revealed it."Mar 29 15:26
schestowitz"  (Redirected from Slashdot subculture)"Mar 29 15:26
schestowitzI think it used to be its own articleMar 29 15:26
schestowitzmany moons agoMar 29 15:27
schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Bates_(technologist)Mar 29 15:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Jeff Bates (technologist) - WikipediaMar 29 15:27
schestowitz"Jeff Bates, also known as hemos, is the co-founder of Slashdot[1] along with Rob Malda ("CmdrTaco"). Bates graduated from Holland Christian High School in 1994[2] and received a Bachelor's degree in History and Biology from Hope College[3] in 1998."Mar 29 15:27
schestowitz"In August 2011, Bates joined Google.[8] He worked at Google as Chief of Staff for the CIO, and as of 2019, is the Chief of Product Operations."Mar 29 15:27
mateyso you can click "older" 100 times but theres no way to say "oldest"Mar 29 15:28
mateyso you cant even go to the first page as far as i can tellMar 29 15:28
mateyreally brilliant designMar 29 15:28
schestowitz"Occasionally, a story will link to a server causing a large surge of traffic, which can overwhelm some smaller or independent sites. This phenomenon is known as the Slashdot effect."Mar 29 15:28
schestowitzI got the slashdot effect many timesMar 29 15:28
schestowitzbut mostly in the years after its peakMar 29 15:28
schestowitzit tapered off already circa 2005Mar 29 15:28
mateythey could have called it slashdosMar 29 15:29
schestowitzhttps://www.wired.com/1999/06/cmdrtaco-on-slashdot-sale/Mar 29 15:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-CmdrTaco on Slashdot Sale | WIREDMar 29 15:29
schestowitz"The co-founder and lead geek at Slashdot.org talks about selling the business to Andover.net. But he's reluctant to say exactly how much the sale brought in."Mar 29 15:29
schestowitzNow Logan runs itMar 29 15:29
mateyafter=faedeb1ef6397e9b26d83aa229193d3c37ab0c7e+104 <- this takes me back to 16-bit computingMar 29 15:29
schestowitzLogan's runMar 29 15:29
schestowitzit's going nowhereMar 29 15:29
schestowitzLogan was here in IRC a few timesMar 29 15:30
schestowitztried to convince us /. would get betterMar 29 15:30
schestowitzhe also controls sourceforgeMar 29 15:30
mateynearly all commits (recent, back to 2021 and before) are from Mar 29 15:31
matey@grzegorz914Mar 29 15:31
mateygrzegorz914Mar 29 15:31
mateywho wrote what it was forked fromMar 29 15:31
mateythis is starting to look really fakeMar 29 15:31
mateyhes not still at wapo labsMar 29 15:31
mateyit looks like he didnt do any work on this in 2021Mar 29 15:31
mateyit makes no sense really, unless its fakeMar 29 15:32
mateymaybe an inside jokeMar 29 15:32
matey"hey i made you a github account" "oh, fuck you"Mar 29 15:32
matey"it says wapo labs" "haha, arsehole"Mar 29 15:33
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schestowitz-TRhmm... predicted to snow here tomorrowMar 29 15:40
schestowitz-TRalmost aprilMar 29 15:40
schestowitz-TRheavy snowMar 29 15:40
schestowitz-TRhappens once in 10-20 yearsMar 29 15:40
techrights-news"PGConf.be 2022 will be held in Haasrode, Leuven, about 25km from Brussels. The conference will take place on May 19th, 2022. Registration is open." https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/pgconfbe-call-for-papers-registration-open-2429/Mar 29 15:42
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techrights-newsThe issue here is Redis, which is BSD licensed, but this article tries to blame "Debian", "Ubuntu", and "Linux" https://www.scmagazine.com/brief/breach/redis-servers-under-attackMar 29 15:44
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techrights-news"I’ve been using myrepos for a while - as someone who juggles a lot of repositories, both for personal projects and as a Fedora and CentOS packager, a ~/.mrconfig synced via Nextcloud really makes checking out repositories consistently, on different computers, straightforward." https://michel-slm.name/posts/2022-03-28-myrepos-utils/Mar 29 15:44
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techrights-newsIntern left legacy of potty-mouthed source code - El Reg ⚓ https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/28/who_me/ ䷉ Source: theregisterMar 29 15:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Intern left legacy of potty-mouthed source code • The RegisterMar 29 15:47
techrights-news5 key insights for open source project sustainability in 2022 | Opensource.com <p><img src="" border="0" align="left" width="160" hspace="20" vspace="20" style="padding: 17px 17px 17px 17px; box-shadow: 5px 5px 5px #222;" /> <p class="dropcap-first"> <a href="https://opensource.com/article/22/3/open-source-project-sustainability"><img src="/files/read-on-white.png" alt="Read more" title="Read the rest of this article" /></a>Mar 29 15:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-5 key insights for open source project sustainability in 2022 | Opensource.comMar 29 15:48
techrights-newsFedora 36 Workstation Installation Guide / Gnome 42 Quick Tour and New Features http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163107#comment-33224Mar 29 16:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora Linux 36 Beta Is Out with the GNOME 42 Desktop Environment and Linux Kernel 5.17 | Tux MachinesMar 29 16:03
techrights-newsOpen Invention Network (OIN) is not a community, it is a corporate patent pool trying to pull the actual community into the cartel that 'normalises' software patents, distracting from actual solutions https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2022/03/29/2411593/0/en/Maersk-Joins-the-Open-Invention-Network-Community.htmlMar 29 16:05
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techrights-news"Beyond The Edge Of Owlsgard is a very promising upcoming point and click adventure game, with a Linux demo available." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/beyond-the-edge-of-owlsgard-is-a-retro-point-and-click-adventure-worth-trying/Mar 29 16:08
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Beyond The Edge Of Owlsgard is a retro point and click adventure worth trying | GamingOnLinuxMar 29 16:08
techrights-newsMore teasers for a big Valheim update have arrived | GamingOnLinux ⚓ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/more-teasers-for-a-big-valheim-update-have-arrived/ ䷉ Source: Gaming On Linux | GNU | Linux | GamesMar 29 16:09
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techrights-newsMarch 2022 Web Server Survey | Netcraft News <p><img src="" border="0" align="left" width="160" hspace="20" vspace="20" style="padding: 17px 17px 17px 17px; box-shadow: 5px 5px 5px #222;" /> <p class="dropcap-first"> <a href="https://news.netcraft.com/archives/2022/03/29/march-2022-web-server-survey.html"><img src="/files/read-on-white.png" alt="Read more" title="Read the rest of this article" /></a>Mar 29 16:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.netcraft.com | March 2022 Web Server Survey | Netcraft NewsMar 29 16:11
techrights-news"Microsoft saw declines in all metrics this month, losing 3.22 million sites (-7.13%), 156,000 domains (-1.75%), 118,000 active sites (-1.88%), and 7,620 computers (-0.57%). Microsoft also lost 1,000 sites from its share of the top million." https://news.netcraft.com/archives/2022/03/29/march-2022-web-server-survey.htmlMar 29 16:11
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XRevan86https://thesun.co.uk/news/18082575 The Sun's reporters forgot to take their pills again.Mar 29 16:14
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thesun.co.uk | Blind mystic Baba Vanga who 'predicted 9/11' also claimed Putin will be 'lord of the world' in haunting prophecyMar 29 16:14
techrights-news[GIT PULL] flexible-array transformations for 5.18-rc1 - Gustavo A. R. Silva ⚓ https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220322184802.GA2533969@embeddedor/ ䷉ Source: embeddedor | linux | kernelMar 29 16:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lore.kernel.org | [GIT PULL] flexible-array transformations for 5.18-rc1 - Gustavo A. R. SilvaMar 29 16:28
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techrights-news[GIT PULL] sound updates for 5.18 - Takashi Iwai ⚓ https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/s5hfsn8tyll.wl-tiwai@suse.de/ ䷉ Source: suse | linux | kernelMar 29 16:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lore.kernel.org | [GIT PULL] sound updates for 5.18 - Takashi IwaiMar 29 16:29
techrights-news[Intel-gfx] [PATCH 1/2] drm/i915/ats-m: add ATS-M platform info ⚓ https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/intel-gfx/2022-March/294043.html ䷉ Source: intel | linuxMar 29 16:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.freedesktop.org | [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 1/2] drm/i915/ats-m: add ATS-M platform infoMar 29 16:29
schestowitz-TRXRevan86: best to ignore the sunMar 29 16:30
schestowitz-TRit's not good for the brainMar 29 16:30
schestowitz-TRuntil years ago the sun was known notf or murdochMar 29 16:30
schestowitz-TRbut for page 3Mar 29 16:30
schestowitz-TRyou tur the front leafMar 29 16:30
schestowitz-TRand there you have girls with their tits showingMar 29 16:30
schestowitz-TRso it was literally a wanker's 'news' paperMar 29 16:31
XRevan86Even just this fact that they appeal (numerous times) to a (heavily debunked) "psychic" is more than enough.Mar 29 16:32
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techrights-news"I am planning to add a few chapters on securing services in my Linux Command Line book. But, to make it practical & hands on, I needed one real application which the readers can deploy and secure." https://kushaldas.in/posts/introducing-very-bad-web-application.htmlMar 29 16:38
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MinceR(audio:music) https://hugelolcdn.com/v/818334.mp4Mar 29 16:38
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matey"attacked by steel birds" thats pretty uncanny actuallyMar 29 16:51
mateysince in 1989 no one had ever heard of airplanes (let alone of one being used to attack someone)Mar 29 16:51
matey"steel birds! thats so incredible, wherever could such a creature come from? this woman must speak to the gods themselves!"Mar 29 16:52
techrights-newsVirtual Kubernetes clusters: A new model for multitenancy | ⚓ https://opensource.com/article/22/3/virtual-kubernetes-clusters-new-model-multitenancy ䷉ Source: FreeSW | RedHat | IBM | GNU | LinuxMar 29 16:54
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matey"how did you guys ever think up the idea of attacking people with PLANES? its so original""actually we got the idea from the crazy psychic lady. before that we were just going to tamper with some bottles of tylenol, but they put those damned seals on them so that was out"Mar 29 16:54
mateyheadlines: psychic from sun news masterminded 9/11!Mar 29 16:55
matey"we read that thing about 'steel birds' and just thought-- wow, why didnt WE think of that?"Mar 29 16:56
mateymeet the real world, its like "brave new world" except dumberMar 29 16:57
techrights-newsRaphaël Hertzog: Join Freexian to help improve Debian https://raphaelhertzog.com/2022/03/29/join-freexian-to-help-improve-debian/Mar 29 16:58
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schestowitzit's not about 9/11 attacksMar 29 16:59
schestowitzthese are straw man attacksMar 29 16:59
mateyyou didnt read the thingMar 29 17:00
XRevan86matey: "Just say "birds of steel", the suckers keep falling for it"Mar 29 17:00
schestowitzto suppress any discussion about 9/11Mar 29 17:00
schestowitzmention "9/11" and people go, "oh , here we go again..."Mar 29 17:00
mateyim all in favour of the 9/11 victims families having a real inquiryMar 29 17:00
mateytheyre not going to get one, because the government doesnt give a shit about people who have less than billions of dollarsMar 29 17:00
mateyever.Mar 29 17:00
schestowitzand saudi arabia put under probeMar 29 17:00
schestowitzand maybe forced to issue billions in compensationMar 29 17:01
mateythat would be poetic, but its not how allies get treatedMar 29 17:01
mateyon the other side of the world, these are called "acceptable losses"Mar 29 17:01
mateyon this side of the world, its called "thank you for your service"Mar 29 17:02
mateyits the same scam, just different marketingMar 29 17:02
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techrights-news"Today we’re going to design and laser cut some new Raspberry Pi cases from 3mm plywood using the Atomstack X7 40W." https://www.the-diy-life.com/making-laser-cut-raspberry-pi-cases-using-the-atomstack-x7-40w/Mar 29 17:06
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techrights-news"In 2019, the German LibreOffice community sadly lost one of its most active members, Klaus-Jürgen Weghorn. [...] support a student through the Deutschlandstipendium initiative..." https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2022/03/29/the-document-foundation-supports-the-deutschlandstipendium/Mar 29 17:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.documentfoundation.org | The Document Foundation supports the "Deutschlandstipendium" - The Document Foundation BlogMar 29 17:09
techrights-newsLinux Tablet: Best Options, Comparison, and Guide • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163109Mar 29 17:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Tablet: Best Options, Comparison, and Guide | Tux MachinesMar 29 17:09
mateythere are more people getting off of crack than leaving githubMar 29 17:10
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techrights-newsFinnix Linux Distro for Sysadmins Celebrates 22th Anniversary with New Release • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163110Mar 29 17:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Finnix Linux Distro for Sysadmins Celebrates 22th Anniversary with New Release | Tux MachinesMar 29 17:15
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mateymike gerwitz, showing how its done https://github.com/mikegerwitz/i-do-not-use-githubMar 29 17:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - mikegerwitz/i-do-not-use-github: I do not use GitHub for personal projects. More information here.Mar 29 17:18
mateythank you mikeMar 29 17:19
matey"While you may see some commits of mine for projects related to my employer, I do not use GitHub for personal projects."Mar 29 17:19
matey"Primarily because GitHub requires users to run non-free JavaScript to use all features of the website. Not only will I not do this, but I don't want to direct users to GitHub either, because doing so is asking them to run non-free software."Mar 29 17:19
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2022/03/26/mike-gerwitz-ethics/Mar 29 17:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Mike Gerwitz on the Ethics Void | TechrightsMar 29 17:19
mateyuh ohMar 29 17:20
mateywell i wasnt done yet, but this is worth pausing forMar 29 17:20
mateyi had one other funny thing to addMar 29 17:20
techrights-newsVulkan API 1.3.210 out with new extensions, new NVIDIA Beta Driver ready | GamingOnLinux ⚓ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/vulkan-api-13210-out-with-new-extensions-new-nvidia-beta-driver-ready/ ䷉ Source: Gaming On Linux | Graphics | Linux | GamesMar 29 17:21
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mateyoh dearMar 29 17:21
mateywell, ill have to watch that i guessMar 29 17:21
mateythis needs to be added (same link as before)Mar 29 17:21
matey"GitHub is under new ownership, so maybe there is hope to change that." ROFLMar 29 17:22
techrights-newsLOL! "With a price starting at $1,999".... and wait till you see the POWER BILLS! https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3090-ti-has-rolled-out/Mar 29 17:22
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Ti 'BFGPU' has rolled out | GamingOnLinuxMar 29 17:22
mateyyeah, microsoft purchased them, so maybe theyll solve the non-free js problemMar 29 17:22
mateyseriously.Mar 29 17:22
mateyso you see its not just kuhn pushing this code of ethics thingMar 29 17:23
mateycoc 2 is comingMar 29 17:23
mateyum, that time it wasnt even intended.Mar 29 17:23
mateyit wasnt enough for corporations to push their social dynamics onto free software, they have to impose their "ethics" on us tooMar 29 17:24
mateysay goodbye to freedom 0. you wont get freedom 0 unless you fork. you wont fork, because theres no freedom 3.Mar 29 17:24
mateyfree software will be back of course. like jesus.Mar 29 17:24
mateymaybe even before jesus.Mar 29 17:24
matey/me IS definitely exaggerating slightlyMar 29 17:25
mateyits bad though.Mar 29 17:25
mateythe fsf is pushing kuhnism, like i saidMar 29 17:25
mateyand theyre using libreplanet, which is what i said they would do.Mar 29 17:26
mateynow to watch this old claptrapMar 29 17:26
mateyfucking lieplanetMar 29 17:26
techrights-newsWe’re going to recognise the demise of the Web (along with social control media and bursting of the “clown” bubble) as we focus more on exposing corruption, resisting censorship, and moving videos away from the grip of pseudo-’free’ video hosting (no such thing) http://techrights.org/2022/03/29/techrights-preparations-underway/Mar 29 17:26
mateyroy, the one time i think ive found a kindred spirit at the fsf, and you go and ruin itMar 29 17:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Has Some Solid Plans, But Preparations Are Underway | TechrightsMar 29 17:26
techrights-newsGames: Beyond The Edge Of Owlsgard, Valheim, and More • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163111Mar 29 17:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Beyond The Edge Of Owlsgard, Valheim, and More | Tux MachinesMar 29 17:26
matey(this one, at least, you cant be blamed for)Mar 29 17:26
MinceR29 182408 < matey> it wasnt enough for corporations to push their social dynamics onto free software, they have to impose their "ethics" on us tooMar 29 17:27
MinceRit's not really their ethicsMar 29 17:27
mateyindeedMar 29 17:27
mateyits just they want to control oursMar 29 17:27
MinceRit's what their crybully troll army likesMar 29 17:27
MinceRand what they offend all the time, but not publiclyMar 29 17:27
MinceRit's easier to point out that a free software project used a "bad word" in a comment when your own code is secretMar 29 17:28
mateyif more people watched the office, they would already know what the fsf is going to do nextMar 29 17:28
mateysteel birds will attack our nuts!Mar 29 17:28
mateyand turn us into unixMar 29 17:28
matey<MinceR> it's easier to point out that a free software project used a "bad word" in a comment when your own code is secret 81580085!Mar 29 17:29
schestowitzDAAAARK MODE https://windowsreport.com/best-windows-11-dark-theme/Mar 29 17:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-windowsreport.com | 5 best Windows 11 dark themes that are available for freeMar 29 17:29
mateyB16B00B5Mar 29 17:29
schestowitzdoes that offend anyone?Mar 29 17:29
schestowitzdeny modeMar 29 17:29
mateydeny horseMar 29 17:29
mateydeny magicMar 29 17:30
mateydenysploitationMar 29 17:30
techrights-newsRFID music player delivers vintage charm | Arduino Blog ⚓ https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/03/29/rfid-music-player-delivers-vintage-charm/ ䷉ Source: Arduino | Hardware | OpenHardware | HackingMar 29 17:31
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mateydeny beauty https://yewtu.be/watch?v=8u5NgC4lZ8sMar 29 17:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Black Beauty Theme (Galloping Home) - Denis King 1972 - InvidiousMar 29 17:31
mateyoh, deny betty! blam balamMar 29 17:32
techrights-newsLOL!!!! "National Science Agency (NSA)"... and those LF slackies in "FOSS" Life think NSA (NOT science) want security? https://www.fosslife.org/nsa-releases-kubernetes-hardening-guideMar 29 17:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosslife.org | NSA Releases Kubernetes Hardening GuideMar 29 17:32
techrights-newsNSA wants to harden (actual) security like a rape victims wants the rapist hardenedMar 29 17:33
schestowitz-TRthere's a racist program called darktableMar 29 17:34
MinceRuh ohMar 29 17:34
schestowitz-TRthey need to change nameMar 29 17:34
schestowitz-TRI suggest "GLIMPSE"Mar 29 17:34
mateythe "ethics void"Mar 29 17:34
schestowitz-TRsince the GIMP fork is deadMar 29 17:34
MinceRwhat's the MICROS~1/ibm/deadrat-approved replacement for "dark"?Mar 29 17:34
schestowitz-TRGLIMPSE is available for useMar 29 17:35
mateyim telling you, these people all work for open source nowMar 29 17:35
schestowitz-TRit's the same but we changed the name and logoMar 29 17:35
mateythis is old osi shitMar 29 17:35
mateythey didnt fold-- they movedMar 29 17:35
schestowitz-TRIs pale moon OK?Mar 29 17:35
schestowitz-TRPale can be colour referenceMar 29 17:35
mateythe palemoon author is an idiotMar 29 17:35
MinceR:>Mar 29 17:35
mateyoh you mean the nameMar 29 17:35
mateyallow moonMar 29 17:35
schestowitz-TR"allow microphone access"Mar 29 17:36
mateyif a midget makes a misogynist comment, is it offensive to call that a "microaggression"Mar 29 17:37
schestowitz-TRif a drone runs Windows...Mar 29 17:39
schestowitz-TRand has a minigunMar 29 17:39
schestowitz-TRthat's miniaggression on a microaggresisonMar 29 17:39
mateyso the fsf has finally and officially been hijacked to be used for pure fucking idiocyMar 29 17:39
mateyagainst itselfMar 29 17:39
techrights-news’Extension Manager’ GNOME App Adds New Features, New Icon • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163112Mar 29 17:39
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schestowitz-TRyou mean mike?Mar 29 17:40
mateybut its not an occupation-- they prefer to call it a "conversion of faith"Mar 29 17:40
schestowitz-TRbecause of his talk?Mar 29 17:40
mateyi mean mike and the boardMar 29 17:40
mateyno i havent watched the talk yetMar 29 17:40
mateyim simply going on what i am in fact ABOUT to watchMar 29 17:40
schestowitz-TRmike iirc may have been the one blocking pocock from gnu.orgMar 29 17:40
mateyi make no effort to hide this factMar 29 17:40
schestowitz-TRso that he could not evenemail rmsMar 29 17:40
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mateyoh cool, maybe hes the reason i cant email him eitherMar 29 17:40
mateybut is that ethical?Mar 29 17:40
mateyor was he blocking people for ETHICAL reasonsMar 29 17:41
schestowitz-TRit'\s not for you to decideMar 29 17:41
mateymaybe he was trying to prevent unethical emails from getting throughMar 29 17:41
schestowitz-TRit's for self-labelling ethical peoplMar 29 17:41
mateyyes, it may be my freedom, its just not my decisionMar 29 17:41
schestowitz-TRwho use "SJW" as their own flair in RedditMar 29 17:41
schestowitz-TRwhile working for a GulagMar 29 17:41
schestowitz-TRand bombing peopleMar 29 17:41
mateyis gerwitz a googler?Mar 29 17:41
schestowitz-TRdon't knowMar 29 17:41
schestowitz-TRhe maintains fsdMar 29 17:42
mateyprobably not thenMar 29 17:42
mateyi dont think he doesMar 29 17:42
schestowitz-TRbut he's okMar 29 17:42
mateyi can think of two fsd maintainersMar 29 17:42
schestowitz-TRimeMar 29 17:42
mateybut he's ok <- not from what youve said, noMar 29 17:42
schestowitz-TRthere are people who do harmMar 29 17:42
schestowitz-TRhe's hardly the issueMar 29 17:42
schestowitz-TRhe's pro rmsMar 29 17:42
mateythen he sucks at itMar 29 17:42
mateyhes not even on the pro rms listMar 29 17:43
mateyprobably wasnt ethical Mar 29 17:43
schestowitz-TRyou wrote some rude thinks to rmsMar 29 17:43
schestowitz-TR*thingsMar 29 17:43
schestowitz-TRso on the balance of things he's more pro-RMS than youMar 29 17:43
mateyyour assessment of my interactions with rms is largely bullshitMar 29 17:43
mateyyou told a number of fabrications about rmsMar 29 17:43
mateyand threw me under the bus when it was convenient to do soMar 29 17:43
mateyi dont give two tugs of a dead dogs cock what you think about me and rms. or me and oliva.Mar 29 17:44
mateyor me and tom.Mar 29 17:44
mateyi hope that much is clear.Mar 29 17:44
schestowitz-TRok, fair pointMar 29 17:44
schestowitz-TRbut anyway, mike isn't the enemyMar 29 17:44
schestowitz-TRI added his video/talkMar 29 17:44
mateyno, hes just useless.Mar 29 17:44
mateyim glad you added the talkMar 29 17:44
mateypeople should see it.Mar 29 17:44
schestowitz-TRbecause I looked at more than the gnu domainMar 29 17:44
mateyim going to watch itMar 29 17:44
schestowitz-TRand some of the other thingsMar 29 17:44
schestowitz-TRand he would be a bad target because if we attack our own, nobody benefitsMar 29 17:45
schestowitz-TRmaybe you judged only thje titl;eMar 29 17:45
schestowitz-TRof the talkMar 29 17:45
mateyhes not a target, hes just uselessMar 29 17:45
mateywell lets see what happened when i read kuhns articleMar 29 17:46
schestowitz-TRhe helps a lot in FSDMar 29 17:46
mateyits hard to read that much bullshit at onceMar 29 17:46
schestowitz-TReven at the hardest timesMar 29 17:46
mateyi dont think hes in charge of the fsd anymoreMar 29 17:46
mateywhen i read kuhns article i took it in at a pace i could standMar 29 17:46
schestowitz-TRhe just writes monthly summariesMar 29 17:46
mateybut i finally read the whole thingMar 29 17:46
matey he just writes monthly summaries <- i am awareMar 29 17:46
mateyat first i thought kuhn was supporting ethical source licenses-- not at allMar 29 17:47
schestowitz-TRhe also puts his name in the headlinesMar 29 17:47
mateythen i thought it was mostly benign EXCEPT for the obvious contextMar 29 17:47
schestowitz-TRwhich I always found a tad strangeMar 29 17:47
mateythen i realised what he was doingMar 29 17:47
mateyso three parts to the reaction-- initial, revised and conclusiveMar 29 17:47
mateyim sure it will be the same with the gerwitz talkMar 29 17:47
schestowitzjust publsishged https://opensource.org/blog/simplify-open-source-license-complianceMar 29 17:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.org | Simplify Open Source License Compliance | Open Source Initiative | Guaranteeing the 'our' in source...Mar 29 17:48
schestowitzI've not read it yetMar 29 17:48
schestowitz" GitHub and GitLab are the most common places to publish code with distributed version control."Mar 29 17:49
schestowitzcitation neededMar 29 17:49
techrights-newsHow to quickly end the war in Ukraine with $10 laser pointers | I, Cringely ⚓ https://www.cringely.com/2022/03/29/how-to-quickly-end-the-war-in-ukraine-with-10-laser-pointers/ ䷉ Source: cringelyMar 29 17:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How to quickly end the war in Ukraine with $10 laser pointers | I, CringelyMar 29 17:51
mateyprobably true thoughMar 29 17:53
mateyalso the two worst, nearlyMar 29 17:53
techrights-news"internet-connected uninterruptable power supply (UPS)"????? WHY????? https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ncas/current-activity/2022/03/29/mitigating-attacks-against-uninterruptable-power-supply-devicesMar 29 17:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | Mitigating Attacks Against Uninterruptable Power Supply Devices | CISAMar 29 17:53
mateyi dont give people a hard time for using gitlab, it just sucksMar 29 17:53
mateythey probably should look at a third optionMar 29 17:53
techrights-newsRaspberry Pi CM4 powered system available as SBC or mini-PC ⚓ https://linuxgizmos.com/raspberry-pi-cm4-powered-system-available-as-sbc-or-mini-pc/ ䷉ Source: LinuxGizmos | Hardware | Devices | GNU | LinuxMar 29 17:54
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techrights-news"This photograph of Tesla, produced for The Century Magazine, shows the inventor seated beneath his giant “magnifying transmitter”, arcing 22-foot-long bolts of electricity." https://publicdomainreview.org/collection/nikola-tesla-in-his-laboratory/Mar 29 17:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-publicdomainreview.org | Earthen Messages: Nikola Tesla in his Laboratory (ca. 1899) – The Public Domain ReviewMar 29 17:55
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schestowitz-TRmatey: we made out own in gemtextMar 29 17:55
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schestowitz-TRit's less than 100 lines of codeMar 29 17:55
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mateyyes its funny how you can just put code online without high-granularity version controlMar 29 18:01
mateya number of gnu projects still do that-- bug report? feature request? patch? email it Mar 29 18:01
mateylater it will show up in a tarball.Mar 29 18:01
mateyno git, no cvs, just tar.gzMar 29 18:02
mateyim sure you woudlnt want to do a kernel that wayMar 29 18:02
mateybut im not a kernel authorMar 29 18:03
matey/me is wasting 600mb of b/w on this trollMar 29 18:03
mateysure i have plenty more, its still a wasteMar 29 18:03
mateydoesnt look like i expected at allMar 29 18:04
mateyoh christ hes pushing unityMar 29 18:05
mateyhe sounds like a friend i had at my weddingMar 29 18:06
schestowitz-TRunity3d?Mar 29 18:06
schestowitz-TRaka uniuty?Mar 29 18:06
schestowitz-TRor ubuntu's?Mar 29 18:06
schestowitz-TRrianne used unity for a few yearsMar 29 18:07
schestowitz-TRit's not horribleMar 29 18:07
mateyunity: forced marriageMar 29 18:07
schestowitz-TRat lkeast back then ubuntu was not fedora cloneMar 29 18:08
schestowitz-TRit also had upstart iircMar 29 18:08
matey it's not horrible <- mono?Mar 29 18:08
schestowitz-TRsame timeMar 29 18:08
schestowitz-TRso you mean unity the game dev fwMar 29 18:08
schestowitz-TRunity3d was one of the very few mono "success stories"Mar 29 18:09
mateyi know for a fact that the game platform is monoMar 29 18:09
schestowitz-TRand team mono crumbledMar 29 18:09
mateyim talking about unity desktop, i assumed you wereMar 29 18:10
mateythis was at a time ubuntu was pushing mono-- you wrote articles complaining about itMar 29 18:10
schestowitz-TRunity however was not monoMar 29 18:10
schestowitz-TRI didn't waste time bashing unity their 'de'eMar 29 18:10
mateyok, i wasnt sureMar 29 18:10
schestowitz-TRmostly a panel thingMar 29 18:10
schestowitz-TRafter they hired the beryl/compiz devsMar 29 18:10
mateyand the addon that spied on usersMar 29 18:11
schestowitz-TRor devMar 29 18:11
mateywhich shuttleworth was shameless aboutMar 29 18:11
schestowitz-TRscopeMar 29 18:11
mateyspineless tooMar 29 18:11
schestowitz-TRthat came laterMar 29 18:11
schestowitz-TR2012 ishMar 29 18:11
schestowitz-TRor 2013Mar 29 18:11
schestowitz-TRsnowden leaksMar 29 18:11
schestowitz-TRmicah lee complainedMar 29 18:11
schestowitz-TRafter he had put glenn greenwalk on ubuntuMar 29 18:11
schestowitz-TRand saught to secure the snowden trove of leaksMar 29 18:12
mateyC++, JavaScript, QMLMar 29 18:12
matey2.0–7.4: C, C++, Python, Vala[3]Mar 29 18:12
matey8: C++ and QMLMar 29 18:12
mateyno monoMar 29 18:12
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mateygerwitz is resently talking about a lot of irrelevant things that are going to be used to tank free software development for yearsMar 29 18:13
mateypresently ^Mar 29 18:13
mateykuhn and industry ask for stupid-- gerwitz finds legitimate reasons to give them everything on their wishlistMar 29 18:14
mateyi think gerwitz is a suckerMar 29 18:14
mateyseems well-intendedMar 29 18:14
mateyhes actually approaching this in a stallman-like wayMar 29 18:15
mateypedantic, thorough, completely oblivious to the context of what he will be ushering in on behalf of a corrupt industryMar 29 18:15
mateypeople will use this talk to add legitimacy to what kuhn is doingMar 29 18:16
schestowitz-TRok, so we agree he's well meaningMar 29 18:16
mateymeanwhile the fsf has already used this against whistleblowersMar 29 18:16
schestowitz-TRunlike with bkuhnMar 29 18:16
mateyso we agree he's well meaning <- no, i think he appears and may in fact be well-meaningMar 29 18:16
schestowitz-TRokMar 29 18:16
mateyunlike with bkuhn <- but they are arguing for the same thing at the end of the dayMar 29 18:16
mateyand thats a problem regardless of intentionMar 29 18:17
mateyhes scoring an own-goalMar 29 18:17
schestowitzof note: https://media.libreplanet.org/u/libreplanet/Mar 29 18:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-media.libreplanet.org | libreplanet's profile — GNU MediaGoblinMar 29 18:17
schestowitzthere are still missing bits and errorsMar 29 18:17
schestowitzI reckon they will resume and finalise todayMar 29 18:17
mateyfrom this talk or from the event?Mar 29 18:17
mateyive watched 1/3 of it (and watching the next 1/3 now) and hes still on the introduction (or the lack of tie-in to whats going on now)Mar 29 18:18
techrights-newsOr it just renamed and moved under another shell https://www.accessnow.org/finfisher-shuts-down/Mar 29 18:19
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.accessnow.org | Victory! FinFisher shuts down - Access NowMar 29 18:19
mateyschestowitz have you ever had a friend (in school for example) for however long, who was a bit of a doormat?Mar 29 18:20
techrights-newsSchneier neglects to point out this is a Microsoft Windows issue https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/03/a-detailed-look-at-the-conti-ransomware-gang.htmlMar 29 18:21
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mateysomeone who just refused to stand up for themselves and let people walk all over themMar 29 18:21
schestowitz-TRthat's now what's happening, that can happen over ircMar 29 18:22
schestowitz-TRor textual commsMar 29 18:22
schestowitz-TReven with rmsMar 29 18:22
schestowitz-TReven more so with rmsMar 29 18:22
mateywell the thing is, people like that arent bad peopleMar 29 18:22
schestowitz-TRhe said offensive things to people I knowMar 29 18:22
schestowitz-TRwithout meaning toMar 29 18:22
mateybut theyre routinely hijacked, manipulated and used by bad peopleMar 29 18:23
mateythis makes them at best, a liabilityMar 29 18:23
mateyim not saying we should necessarily shun themMar 29 18:23
schestowitz-TRso then people need to jump in and act as negotiatorsMar 29 18:23
mateyjust that they make lousy friends, because they often end up siding with bad people Mar 29 18:23
matey<schestowitz-TR> so then people need to jump in and act as negotiators <- this is a valid approachMar 29 18:23
mateywith enough good people willing to do something, such people can be rescuedMar 29 18:23
schestowitz-TRiirc, jgay had this issue tooMar 29 18:23
mateywithin a small group though, such doormat like people are a liabilityMar 29 18:24
schestowitz-TRlike rms saying inappropriate thingsMar 29 18:24
mateyand, in a large group of such people, youre just fucked.Mar 29 18:24
schestowitz-TRmatey: so you keep them at arm's lengthMar 29 18:24
matey<schestowitz-TR> like rms saying inappropriate things <- people need to understand that rms is always going to have social difficultiesMar 29 18:24
mateyif they cant understand that, imo theyre being unreasonableMar 29 18:24
schestowitz-TRyes, that won't change at age 70Mar 29 18:24
mateythis is not a special plea for rms, its a recognition of everyone who has a legitimate reason to be that wayMar 29 18:25
mateynot understanding this is like telling someone tourettes to watch their fucking mouthMar 29 18:25
mateysomeone with tourettes ^Mar 29 18:25
mateythe fact is that people like rms can IMPROVEMar 29 18:25
schestowitz-TRnot to go offtopicMar 29 18:25
schestowitz-TRin wikileaks cablegateMar 29 18:25
mateybut Mar 29 18:25
schestowitz-TRclinton asked for medfical dirt on kirschner (argentina)Mar 29 18:25
schestowitz-TRwhen you want to take people downMar 29 18:26
mateythat improvement will never make them "normal" and that needs to be accepted (by reasonable people. unreasonable people will make unreasonable demands)Mar 29 18:26
schestowitz-TRyou identigy a weaknessMar 29 18:26
schestowitz-TRlike someone being tactlessMar 29 18:26
schestowitz-TRor a sex maniacMar 29 18:26
schestowitz-TRor disloyalMar 29 18:26
schestowitz-TRwityh rms they know how to trigger himMar 29 18:26
mateyi dont think rms is tactlessMar 29 18:26
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mateyi think he can be sometimesMar 29 18:26
schestowitz-TRtemperMar 29 18:26
mateysometimes he fails sociallyMar 29 18:26
matey <schestowitz-TR> wityh rms they know how to trigger him <- right Mar 29 18:27
mateyits a bullying tacticMar 29 18:27
mateyyou flick things at the back of someones headMar 29 18:27
mateyno one noticesMar 29 18:27
mateyfinally that person turns around and says HEY WOULD YOU FUCK OFFMar 29 18:27
mateyand then they get in trouble, not the instigatorMar 29 18:27
mateythis has been going on FOREVERMar 29 18:28
mateyand most anti-bullying strategies simply ignore this Mar 29 18:28
schestowitz-TRhappeend here in ircMar 29 18:28
schestowitz-TRand in usenetMar 29 18:28
schestowitz-TRI once fell for itMar 29 18:28
schestowitz-TRbut that was around 2005Mar 29 18:28
schestowitz-TRlessons learned: always ignore trollsMar 29 18:28
mateyaround 24:00 the talk just makes me sadMar 29 18:29
techrights-newsHC asks MEITY to consider hearing creator of blocked site ⚓ https://internetfreedom.in/delhi-high-court-calls-for-case-files/ ䷉ Source: internetfreedomMar 29 18:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-internetfreedom.in | HC asks MEITY to consider hearing creator of blocked siteMar 29 18:29
mateylessons learned: always ignore trolls <- nice idea, until everyone is trollingMar 29 18:29
mateythe world has gotten way more trollish over the past 20 yearsMar 29 18:30
mateyjust society in general Mar 29 18:30
mateyits not all badMar 29 18:30
mateyi like focusing on the bad because the good doesnt need as much fixingMar 29 18:30
mateyin fact one of the worst things there is now, is people trying desperately to fix everything goodMar 29 18:31
matey"fix"Mar 29 18:31
matey24:00 gerwitz is very politely tiptoeing around the problem of open sourceMar 29 18:32
mateyhes actually talking about it, which is goodMar 29 18:32
mateyim not suggesting that pounding his fist on the podium and shouting would be betterMar 29 18:32
techrights-newsHow on Earth could this article be published without even mentioning Windows? With Microsoft and Bill Gates bribing everything that moves -- even publishers -- the crimes get covered up and noise obfuscates https://www.wired.com/story/conti-leaks-ransomware-work-life/Mar 29 18:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Workaday Life of Conti, the World’s Most Dangerous Ransomware Gang | WIREDMar 29 18:33
matey"we want to be able to get along and we [mostly] do"Mar 29 18:34
techrights-news"Use Microsoft AppLocker or other similar allow list application to help mitigate risk." Or don't use Microsoft at all. :-) https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-088-01Mar 29 18:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | Rockwell Automation ISaGRAF | CISAMar 29 18:37
techrights-newsSecurity Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163113Mar 29 18:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux MachinesMar 29 18:37
matey"were almost fighting an uphill battle from within" 28:10Mar 29 18:37
mateyand right before that he calls github proprietaryMar 29 18:37
mateynow hes talking about "moral myopia"Mar 29 18:38
matey"were not spying on you, just collecting detailed usage statistics" <- hes criticising thisMar 29 18:39
techrights-news"Misconfiguration in the ASP server causes server and ASP.net information to be shown." Hm... what is this ASP 'server' thing? Oh... CISA should be a lot clearer in its advisories. Stop covering up for criminals from Microsoft https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-088-03Mar 29 18:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | Hitachi Energy LinkOne WebView | CISAMar 29 18:39
schestowitz-TR"telemetry"Mar 29 18:39
schestowitz-TR"big data"Mar 29 18:39
schestowitz-TRfor our "data scientists"Mar 29 18:39
schestowitz-TR"UX"Mar 29 18:39
schestowitz-TR"to improve your eXperience"|Mar 29 18:40
techrights-news"vulnerability exists in HandlerPage_KID.ashx.... CVE-2022-26069 has been assigned to this vulnerability. A CVSS v3 base score of 9.8 has been assigned" https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-081-01 http://techrights.org/wiki/Call_Out_WindowsMar 29 18:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | Delta Electronics DIAEnergie (Update A) | CISAMar 29 18:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Call Out Windows - TechrightsMar 29 18:42
mateyoh look its rmsMar 29 18:43
mateyhe has a question or commentMar 29 18:43
mateyoh its a good commentMar 29 18:44
mateyand yet you think gertwiz blocked pocock?Mar 29 18:44
mateyrms mentions "restore the 4th" Mar 29 18:47
mateyi imagine theyre defunct by nowMar 29 18:47
techrights-newsNicholas Johnson and Woichiech Kosior: Taking back the Web | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/03/29/nicholas-johnson-and-woichiech-kosior/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/29/nicholas-johnson-and-woichiech-kosior/Mar 29 18:48
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mateystill being updated as of a couple weeks ago https://restorethe4th.com/Mar 29 18:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-restorethe4th.com | - Opposing unconstitutional mass government surveillanceMar 29 18:48
mateys during q&a gerwitz literally says "unethical" wrt code is a "slippery slope"Mar 29 18:50
mateyrms says some things should be "absolutely prohibited" whether theyre done with software or notMar 29 18:51
mateygerwtiz seems to entirely contradict himself on the w3c-- it starts out goodMar 29 18:54
mateyi have to check what kind of org the w3c isMar 29 18:54
matey" some GNU/Linux distros belatedly realise that there’s no such thing as “free” hosting and Microsoft GitHub is a force of occupation." a techrights now says github is a force of occupationMar 29 18:54
mateyit is of courseMar 29 18:55
mateyok so the w3c is an international standards organisation governed by membersMar 29 18:57
mateyit doesnt say what kind (where i was reading)Mar 29 18:57
mateygerwitz says the real activism comes from orgs like fsf sfc (he mentioned sfc) and the acluMar 29 18:57
techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▁▆▅▃▄▅▆█▃▅▅▃▃▄▁▂█▁▄▅▄▃▆▇▄▅▃▁▂▇▁▂▆▇▄▄▅▁ avg(k/sec) 50.93 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▁▂▂▁▁▂▆▇▁▃▆▂▁█▁▁▁▂▂▁▂▂▃█▃█▂▃▁▂▁█▃▁ avg(k/sec) 64.10▕ swarm size (avg): 291.30  ⟲Mar 29 18:59
mateyno, the video wasnt as bad as i thought it would beMar 29 19:00
mateyand it looks like restore the 4th is still active. and i guess rms is allowed to comment on talks at libreplanet, which is lovelyMar 29 19:00
mateymaybe a good "hack"Mar 29 19:00
mateyhe looks younger when the video hes on is being shot for a recording, rather than a video callMar 29 19:01
mateyi had a computer teacher in his mid 60s who looked older than rms does in this videoMar 29 19:02
mateyhe looks healthyMar 29 19:03
mateygerwitz incidentally is the maintainer of this gnu project: https://www.gnu.org/software/easejs/Mar 29 19:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gnu.org | GNU ease.jsMar 29 19:06
MinceRhttps://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/1505647540129124357-scaled.jpgMar 29 19:08
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techrights-newsAmin Bandali’s New Talk About the Net Beyond the Web (Including Gemini) | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/03/29/amin-bandali-small-web/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/29/amin-bandali-small-web/Mar 29 19:10
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matey<MinceR> https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/1505647540129124357-scaled.jpg <- and mormons tooMar 29 19:13
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mateyno long hair on boys!Mar 29 19:13
mateywell hes the son of god, he can do what he wantsMar 29 19:13
mateyyeah but...Mar 29 19:14
mateyso anyway, 1. code of conduct 2. code of ethicsMar 29 19:14
MinceR:>Mar 29 19:14
mateyand finally, a dress code for every free software projectMar 29 19:14
mateycant waitMar 29 19:14
mateyno hoodies!Mar 29 19:15
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techrights-newsMozilla Firefox and Google Chrome are now over 30 MILLION lines of code http://techrights.org/?p=157592Mar 29 19:25
schestowitzgemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D186.jpg(Cat) Mar 29 19:27
schestowitz(Cat)  gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D186.jpgMar 29 19:27
activelow^ and they are all heavily compromised beyond repair, chrome, moz etcMar 29 19:27
schestowitzgemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D544.jpgMar 29 19:27
activelowi am not willing to install any of those, neither binary nor from sourceMar 29 19:28
kingoffranceeh, the hair thing is actually vaguely a sign of "progress".  women were believed to hae long hair with magical powers, so were supposed to cover up -- see one of the egyptian "marys" wiping mummy jesus feet with her hair as part of the mummy "resurrection".    that it has switched back around to boys is kind of hilarious thoughMar 29 19:29
techrights-newsA stranger on my public Matrix channel. A stranger on my public Matrix channel.Mar 29 19:29
kingoffranceyou ppl dont know how many jokes i could make but hold my tongue :DMar 29 19:29
kingoffranceits just bits and pieces of egyptian mummification ritualsMar 29 19:30
kingoffrancewhatever the hair was about, they forgot centuries agoMar 29 19:30
kingoffrancethats also samson or whoever gets a hair cut and loses his magical powersMar 29 19:34
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bnchsgreatest alexa prankMar 29 19:44
bnchs"alexa call 911"Mar 29 19:44
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bnchs"alexa call bomb threat to 911"Mar 29 19:45
techrights-newsIt’s NOT Over! 165,000 Dead Brits — People Who Died With COVID-19 — as Coronavirus Patients in Hospital to Reach 20,000 This Week (Highest Since Pre-Vaccine Levels) http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/03/29/20000-in-hospital/Mar 29 19:46
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schestowitz-TRbnchs: and say it "9" "11"Mar 29 19:46
schestowitz-TRnot nine one oneMar 29 19:46
schestowitz-TRalexa, jeff bezos did 9/11Mar 29 19:47
schestowitz-TRand debbie does dallasMar 29 19:47
bnchsthink of any phrases you can trick someone's alexa withMar 29 19:47
bnchsteaches streamers a lesson with alexaMar 29 19:47
schestowitz-TRsounds like swatting themMar 29 19:47
schestowitz-TRphone themMar 29 19:48
schestowitz-TRtell them to be put on speakerMar 29 19:48
bnchsyeah i know but i can think of something elseMar 29 19:48
schestowitz-TRthen shout ALEXA HOW DO I BUILDS A BOMB!!!Mar 29 19:48
bnchs"alexa order a 12 inch black dildo"Mar 29 19:48
schestowitz-TRnow get some popcornMar 29 19:48
bnchs"alexa call 911"Mar 29 19:48
bnchs"alexa search for instructions for how to build a bomb"Mar 29 19:48
bnchsI've added 12 inches black dildo to your amazon shopping cartMar 29 19:50
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bnchs"alexa what is my location"Mar 29 19:51
bnchsalexa cant even do the simplest taskMar 29 19:51
bnchsbut yet ruins your lifeMar 29 19:51
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bnchsi have an ideaMar 29 19:52
MinceR"alexa, ignore this command"Mar 29 19:52
bnchs"alexa order 82 inches samsung qled 8k TV and put it on one-day shipping"Mar 29 19:52
bnchsyou can drain people's wallets with thisMar 29 19:52
schestowitz-TRi used to access alexa the site a lotMar 29 19:53
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MinceR"alexa, order two tons of creamed corn. alexa, confirm purchase."Mar 29 19:53
schestowitz-TRaround 2003-2005Mar 29 19:53
schestowitz-TRI even had the toolbar at one pointMar 29 19:53
schestowitz-TRin the days when it was fashionable to have google pagerank in toolbarsMar 29 19:53
schestowitz-TRtoolbars stopped being a thing at one pointMar 29 19:53
schestowitz-TRnot sure whyMar 29 19:53
schestowitz-TRi sort of miss those daystMar 29 19:53
schestowitz-TRthe web was mostly pagesMar 29 19:53
schestowitz-TRnot 'webapps'Mar 29 19:54
bnchsalexa is like allowing the trolls to fuck you over moreMar 29 19:54
bnchs"alexa, order 500 iphone 11s and put them on ONE DAY SHIPPING"Mar 29 19:54
bnchs"yes"Mar 29 19:54
bnchs"alexa, what is my IP address"Mar 29 19:55
bnchs"alexa, tell me which devices are on LAN"Mar 29 19:56
bnchs"alexa, whats the best place to dump a body"Mar 29 19:57
schestowitz-TRafter <html>Mar 29 19:58
schestowitz-TRand <head>Mar 29 19:59
schestowitz-TR"alexa, tell me which devices are on LAN"Mar 29 19:59
schestowitz-TRalexa:alexaMar 29 19:59
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bnchsthe alexa can also call people on your phoneMar 29 19:59
bnchsconnect to your phone and call shitMar 29 20:00
bnchs"Alexa order 2 extra-large cheesy dominos pizza meat lover"Mar 29 20:01
techrights-news#HowTo create & manage loop devices(virtual block) on Linux • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163114Mar 29 20:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How to create & manage loop devices(virtual block) on Linux | Tux MachinesMar 29 20:01
bnchsalexa is funny, like putting a security hole in your homeMar 29 20:01
schestowitz-TRit is called shot-hackingMar 29 20:02
schestowitz-TRshoutMar 29 20:02
bnchsyeahMar 29 20:02
techrights-newsIPFire 2.27 - Core Update 165 released • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163115Mar 29 20:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IPFire 2.27 - Core Update 165 released | Tux MachinesMar 29 20:02
techrights-news4 Best Free and Open Source GUI Prototyping Tools • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163116Mar 29 20:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 4 Best Free and Open Source GUI Prototyping Tools | Tux MachinesMar 29 20:02
bnchsit cant differentiate between a real human voice and a TTS/text reader voice Mar 29 20:02
techrights-news5 Reasons Why Zorin OS is an Ideal Choice for Beginners • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163117Mar 29 20:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 5 Reasons Why Zorin OS is an Ideal Choice for Beginners | Tux MachinesMar 29 20:02
bnchsand makes it a ((prime)) target for trollsMar 29 20:03
schestowitz-TR"alexas, sent goatse to mom, tell her I'm a necrophile"Mar 29 20:03
schestowitz-TR*Alexa, sendMar 29 20:04
bnchsAlexa, text the local target i'm planning to bomb themMar 29 20:04
bnchsfirst thing your mom gets greeted with is a man's assholeMar 29 20:05
bnchsschestowitz-TR: not just alexaMar 29 20:10
bnchstheres also siriMar 29 20:10
bnchsand google homeMar 29 20:10
bnchsand other shitMar 29 20:10
bnchs"hey siri call 911" "yes"Mar 29 20:10
bnchsdont leave your iphone near a speakerMar 29 20:11
schestowitz-TRhi, try thisMar 29 20:12
schestowitz-TR"siri call the police, tell them to bring  a machine gun"Mar 29 20:12
schestowitz-TRor something about suicide vestMar 29 20:12
schestowitz-TRanyway, the point you make here is not newMar 29 20:13
schestowitz-TRlet's break it downMar 29 20:13
schestowitz-TRa computer with open micMar 29 20:13
schestowitz-TRno need to access mouse or keyboardMar 29 20:13
schestowitz-TRno need to even be in the same roomnMar 29 20:13
bnchsthis kind of attack always happens with streamersMar 29 20:13
schestowitz-TRit can be a TV set in the backgroundMar 29 20:13
schestowitz-TRor someone shouting in the streetMar 29 20:13
schestowitz-TRand you give too much access credential to theseMar 29 20:13
bnchsyeahMar 29 20:13
schestowitz-TR"siri delete my hard drive"Mar 29 20:13
schestowitz-TRyou can become paranoid about mere sound wavesMar 29 20:14
schestowitz-TRthey can wipe your diskMar 29 20:14
bnchsbut you gonna need some coordination for stuff like 911 promptMar 29 20:14
bnchsit will prompt you yes or noMar 29 20:14
MinceR"siri, install android"Mar 29 20:14
activelowmy dvb-t2 tv receiver box is bugged; crashes when i'm pressing the menu buttonMar 29 20:14
bnchslike timingMar 29 20:14
bnchsactivelow: what receiver is itMar 29 20:14
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activelowphilipsMar 29 20:15
schestowitz-TRimagine siri on nuke launcher for biden or putinMar 29 20:15
activelowDTR3442BMar 29 20:15
bnchs"SIRI, SELF-DESTRUCT!!!"Mar 29 20:15
bnchsactivelow: i use a vu solo+ with openpliMar 29 20:15
bnchs(aka GNU/Linux on MIPS satellite receiver)Mar 29 20:16
schestowitz-TRactivelow: what do you mean buggedMar 29 20:16
schestowitz-TRdoes it have a microphone on it?Mar 29 20:16
activelownever made any firmware update or anythingMar 29 20:16
bnchsactivelow: what os is it runningMar 29 20:16
activelowschestowitz-TR: with bugged i mean it crashes since recently, as soon as i press the "menu" buttonMar 29 20:16
activelowdidn't change anythingMar 29 20:16
schestowitz-TRif it was taken over entirely, can it even connect over radio or internet?Mar 29 20:16
bnchsis it some proprietary poorly written firmware?Mar 29 20:17
schestowitz-TRif not,Mar 29 20:17
schestowitz-TRthen the worst case scenario, bnd wants to give you a shitty day :-)Mar 29 20:17
schestowitz-TRor crashy stuffMar 29 20:17
schestowitz-TRbut not buggedMar 29 20:17
schestowitz-TRbegging is this:Mar 29 20:17
activelowschestowitz-TR: no internet connection; dvb-t2 isn't officially known for an upstream channel, or software changes over-the-airMar 29 20:17
schestowitz-TR[11:25] <techrights-news> Cars are corrosive to freedom. They used to be marketed as tools of independence and emancipation. Not the "new" cars. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/03/eff-investigation-mystery-gps-tracker-supporters-carMar 29 20:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | An EFF Investigation: Mystery GPS Tracker On A Supporter’s Car | Electronic Frontier FoundationMar 29 20:18
activelow_never_ plugged it into ethernet, not at least once, never connected any usbMar 29 20:18
schestowitz-TRhappens in the uk for a decade at leastMar 29 20:18
schestowitz-TRpolice stops you, attached a car to the carMar 29 20:18
schestowitz-TRthere are variants of thatMar 29 20:18
schestowitz-TRusually targets suspected terror plottersMar 29 20:18
bnchsshoutouts to openpli's enigma2Mar 29 20:18
schestowitz-TR*attaches a bug to the carMar 29 20:18
bnchsentirely framebuffer based UI for receivers without GPUsMar 29 20:18
schestowitz-TRusually below so you do not see itMar 29 20:19
techrights-news165,000 dead will be tomorrow or Thursday. Friday will almost certainly be over 20,000 in hospital, i.e. worse in over a year http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/03/29/20000-in-hospital/Mar 29 20:21
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schestowitz-TRis amin a persian name?Mar 29 20:21
bnchsactivelow: what firmware is itMar 29 20:21
schestowitz-TRAmin BandaliMar 29 20:21
schestowitz-TRhis english is very strongMar 29 20:22
schestowitz-TRbut I can hear it's not his first langMar 29 20:22
schestowitz-TRhe made tons of good gnu projects and sub-projectsMar 29 20:22
bnchshttps://github.com/OpenPLi/enigma2Mar 29 20:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - OpenPLi/enigma2: Framebuffer based frontend for DVB functions on Linux settop boxesMar 29 20:23
bnchsshithubMar 29 20:23
bnchsdisappointmentMar 29 20:23
techrights-news"Believe it or not, not everything is based on C. There are current, shipping, commercial OSes written before C was invented, and now others in both newer and older languages that don't involve C at any level or layer." https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/29/non_c_operating_systems/Mar 29 20:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | The weird world of non-C operating systems • The RegisterMar 29 20:23
techrights-newsSailfish OS Vanha Rauma brings in several new features and improvements • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163118Mar 29 20:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Sailfish OS Vanha Rauma brings in several new features and improvements | Tux MachinesMar 29 20:24
techrights-newsDebian 11.3 is so good, there’s simply no reason to not use it • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163119Mar 29 20:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian 11.3 is so good, there’s simply no reason to not use it | Tux MachinesMar 29 20:24
bnchssaving you the details, about half of it is pythonMar 29 20:25
bnchsand the rest is c++ and cMar 29 20:25
bnchsmy receiver uses thisMar 29 20:26
techrights-newsKDE Plasma 5.24.4, Bugfix Release for March http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163105#comment-33227Mar 29 20:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Plasma 5.24.4 LTS Released with More Plasma Wayland Improvements, Other Fixes | Tux MachinesMar 29 20:26
techrights-newsAnnouncing the release of Fedora Linux 36 Beta http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163107#comment-33226Mar 29 20:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora Linux 36 Beta Is Out with the GNOME 42 Desktop Environment and Linux Kernel 5.17 | Tux MachinesMar 29 20:26
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schestowitz-TRbnchs: if you don't mind me askingMar 29 20:33
schestowitz-TR(no need to answer)Mar 29 20:33
schestowitz-TRwhen did you get introduced to freeswMar 29 20:34
schestowitz-TRand which projectsMar 29 20:34
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techrights-newsHow the WWW turned from OK to utter garbage (good talk, new) http://techrights.org/2022/03/29/nicholas-johnson-and-woichiech-kosior/Mar 29 20:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Nicholas Johnson and Woichiech Kosior: Taking back the Web | TechrightsMar 29 20:35
techrights-newsWhat top use instead of the WWW (where possible) http://techrights.org/2022/03/29/amin-bandali-small-web/Mar 29 20:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Amin Bandali’s New Talk About the Net Beyond the Web (Including Gemini) | TechrightsMar 29 20:35
*schestowitz-TR thinks it's difficult too attract younger people to freesw as most are brainwashed to be glued to dumbed down devicesMar 29 20:39
schestowitz-TRand even to find youth with advanced computer knowledgeMar 29 20:40
schestowitz-TRfsf need to work hard on thisMar 29 20:40
bnchsschestowitz-TR: lets just sayMar 29 20:41
bnchsi had a very old PCMar 29 20:41
activelowi would begin with z80/gigatron era, mathematics, physics, electronicsMar 29 20:41
activelowand pencil and paperMar 29 20:41
bnchsand i was bored with windowsMar 29 20:41
bnchswanted to run a different OSMar 29 20:41
bnchsheard of this thing called linux mintMar 29 20:41
schestowitz-TRahMar 29 20:41
schestowitz-TRmintMar 29 20:41
schestowitz-TRI tried it this past weekend againMar 29 20:41
bnchsi burned it into a USB and installed itMar 29 20:41
schestowitz-TRfirst time in agesMar 29 20:41
bnchsfirst time, wasnt lucky the USB was corruptedMar 29 20:42
bnchsbut second time was successfulMar 29 20:42
schestowitz-TROK, so GNU/Linux was introduced to 'YOU' because of older machineMar 29 20:42
bnchsyesMar 29 20:42
bnchsand maybe because i was bored of windowsMar 29 20:42
schestowitz-TRI started partly because of the Microsoft crimesMar 29 20:43
schestowitz-TRmid/late 90sMar 29 20:43
bnchsthat machine ended up dying anyway because of the fried capacitorsMar 29 20:43
schestowitz-TRthey had to go extinctMar 29 20:43
schestowitz-TRtheir share decreased a lot sinceMar 29 20:43
bnchseven then i never stopped running GNU/LinuxMar 29 20:43
schestowitz-TRbut now we have other issuesMar 29 20:43
activelowGNU/Linux isn't the same as 20years agoMar 29 20:43
bnchseven then before linux mint i thinkMar 29 20:43
bnchsi ran ubuntu on a VM to try it outMar 29 20:44
bnchsand tried using it entirely in a VMMar 29 20:44
schestowitz-TRyou missed the harder daysMar 29 20:44
schestowitz-TRwhen we struggled to get video to runMar 29 20:44
activelowgnu/linux isn't particularly attractive for educational purposes anymore, ms windows is totally unacceptableMar 29 20:45
bnchsi was a OS adventurer if you can say thatMar 29 20:45
bnchsinspired by gulagtubers like OSfirsttimerMar 29 20:45
schestowitz-TRactivelow: you use or study systemd predating usMar 29 20:45
schestowitz-TRbefore we were bornMar 29 20:45
activelowschestowitz-TR: ?Mar 29 20:45
activelowsystemd is none of my concernsMar 29 20:46
schestowitz-TRback then gulagtube was betterMar 29 20:46
schestowitz-TRit was starting to rot about 5 years agoMar 29 20:46
schestowitz-TRwe don't know if it lost a lot of moneyMar 29 20:46
schestowitz-TRbecause gulag can hide thatMar 29 20:46
schestowitz-TRsince taking over 1.5 decades agoMar 29 20:46
bnchsso basically i was introduced to gnu/linux because i was bored of windows and wanted to explore other OSes and try out something new Mar 29 20:47
bnchsi would like to thank people like OSfirsttimer for reviewing obscure OSes and most GNU/Linux distributions and seeing whats beyond just windows and macMar 29 20:50
schestowitz-TRlet's hope the corrupt officials get arrestedMar 29 20:51
schestowitz-TRand windows is removed en masseMar 29 20:51
schestowitz-TRlike schools in turkeyMar 29 20:51
bnchsfor letting me see whats beyond just windows and mac*Mar 29 20:51
schestowitz-TRand then they hire the people who know how to deploy en masse and packageMar 29 20:51
schestowitz-TRmac is nothingMar 29 20:51
schestowitz-TRit's just a worthless brandMar 29 20:51
schestowitz-TRand it means nothing to a lot of the worldMar 29 20:52
bnchsmac is just rich people brandMar 29 20:52
schestowitz-TRoutside norway, japan, and others to whom budget is not a constraintMar 29 20:52
schestowitz-TRapple is a fashion statementMar 29 20:52
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bnchsOSes are like houses, or clothes or some shitMar 29 20:57
bnchsit gets boring to see everyone using and wearing the same shitMar 29 20:57
schestowitz-TRwell, waitMar 29 20:57
schestowitz-TRwhat is OS in this context?Mar 29 20:57
schestowitz-TRicons?Mar 29 20:58
schestowitz-TRthemes?Mar 29 20:58
schestowitz-TRwallpapers?Mar 29 20:58
schestowitz-TRprograms?Mar 29 20:58
schestowitz-TRlibs?Mar 29 20:58
schestowitz-TROS is a holistic termMar 29 20:58
bnchsyeahMar 29 20:58
schestowitz-TReven some doors have OSMar 29 20:58
schestowitz-TRit's a small circuitMar 29 20:58
schestowitz-TRor complex oneMar 29 20:58
schestowitz-TRlike in hotelsMar 29 20:58
schestowitz-TRwhere it reads some strip on a cardMar 29 20:58
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bnchsall i remember was i got bored of using windows (because i was a kid interested in computers) and wanted to see other choicesMar 29 20:59
schestowitz-TRyou will reap the benefitMar 29 20:59
schestowitz-TRyour country does not need MOAR windows BOOTERSMar 29 20:59
bnchsi ran tons of OSes in virtual machinesMar 29 21:00
schestowitz-TRhere in the uk we can do in one hour what some do in a dayMar 29 21:00
bnchsi saw gnu/linux as a new breath of fresh airMar 29 21:01
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bnchsi could explore more things than i couldnt do in windowsMar 29 21:02
schestowitz-TRit is growingMar 29 21:02
schestowitz-TRapple seems to be shrinkingMar 29 21:02
schestowitz-TRbut they have a grip on mediaMar 29 21:02
schestowitz-TRsame for microsoftMar 29 21:02
schestowitz-TRso the media misreportsMar 29 21:02
activelowcredible reporting about linux/gnu is rareMar 29 21:04
psydruidI just tell relatives who use Windows that they're on their ownMar 29 21:04
bnchsyoung people dont wanna switch from what they use because of eitherMar 29 21:04
bnchs1) baby duck syndromeMar 29 21:04
bnchs2) fear of being isolated or singled outMar 29 21:04
psydruidmost of the young ones can get used to anythingMar 29 21:05
activelowand gnu/linux invested too much efforts to attract developers and users who better should have stayed elsewhereMar 29 21:05
activelowsee, what happened to GCC for exampleMar 29 21:05
activelowi had preferred IBM Wintel clusterfucked their icc only, and didn't touch gcc for profiteeringMar 29 21:05
schestowitz-TR https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/insiders-say-apple-is-reducing-production-because-of-Mar 29 21:05
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bnchs404?Mar 29 21:05
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bnchspsydruid: ok, but what about the fear of being singled outMar 29 21:07
bnchsbusiness models like apple rely on kids being singled out for not having an iphoneMar 29 21:07
bnchsthey encourage and even help them by doing shit like imessageMar 29 21:08
techrights-newsGoogle #Android Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163120Mar 29 21:09
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DaemonFCI have an instance of Windows 98 with KernelEx minus IE+shit+memory leak shell.Mar 29 21:11
schestowitz-TRwhat for?Mar 29 21:12
schestowitz-TRwhen you have WINE...Mar 29 21:12
bnchshave you ever thought of thisMar 29 21:12
bnchshave you realized thatMar 29 21:12
bnchsyou need 3rd party tools to make windows usableMar 29 21:12
DaemonFCIt doesn't take much to run it (the entire OS is about 95 MB at that point, fully installed).Mar 29 21:12
bnchsi always kept it in my mindMar 29 21:13
DaemonFCOn a real computer, the requirements dropped back down from a Pentium (fast one) to a 486.Mar 29 21:13
DaemonFCLike Windows 95.Mar 29 21:13
bnchsbut i just realized that you always needed 3rd party hacks and tools to make windows even usableMar 29 21:13
DaemonFCI used RoM II SE because it was always freeware.Mar 29 21:14
DaemonFC98Lite/MELite are paid shareware, and I asked Shane Brooks about whether he was still making money a few years ago.Mar 29 21:14
DaemonFCHe said some people were still buying it and paying him for support because they wanted to use Windows 98 as an embedded OS.Mar 29 21:14
bnchsits always these proprietary hacks like shutup10Mar 29 21:15
DaemonFCMy dad was asking me about how to set up Windows 98 like that and to get it to run a modern web browser.Mar 29 21:15
bnchsthe thing is, had these tools not existed, windows would have been much worse offMar 29 21:16
DaemonFCI managed to run him through the process of keeping his wife's PC that came with Windows 98 perfectly usable through about 2013.Mar 29 21:16
DaemonFCHe'd found some RAM modules on the cheap and I had to guide him through running Windows 98 on a computer with 2 GB of RAM without crashing due to the "insufficient memory to start Windows" error.Mar 29 21:16
DaemonFCAfter all of the modifications, it ran fine and loaded LibreOffice and newer Firefox and Opera.Mar 29 21:17
bnchswas it worth it?Mar 29 21:17
bnchsi mean even my 1GB computer ran linux mint just fineMar 29 21:17
DaemonFCWell, it did everything she needed it to, so there was no reason to get rid of it as long as it worked.Mar 29 21:17
bnchsi mean as in w98Mar 29 21:18
bnchswas it worth doing tons of hacks in w98Mar 29 21:18
DaemonFCFinally, obviously, Windows 98 became unserviceable. Not really because you could not extend it further, but becauset the hardware it worked on natively aged and crashed and few developers of things like KernelEx had systems to develop on anymore, or lost interest.Mar 29 21:18
DaemonFC<bnchs> was it worth doing tons of hacks in w98Mar 29 21:18
DaemonFCHe's a real cheapskate, you know.Mar 29 21:18
activeloww98 was MS-DOSMar 29 21:19
DaemonFCIt had the driver model of Windows 2000 (WDM).Mar 29 21:19
DaemonFCSo I actually installed it onto some XP-era PCs I had.Mar 29 21:19
DaemonFCIntel looked for the Windows version and exited out if it got Windows 98 in response.Mar 29 21:19
DaemonFCSo I unpacked the WDM drivers for those chipsets from Windows XP and installed them anyway using the INFs, and Windows 98 recognized them and brought up the hardware.Mar 29 21:20
DaemonFCI mean, everything worked.Mar 29 21:20
DaemonFCAnd it was quite stable by the time I gutted the operating system of the antitrust crap (web shell) and IE, which wasn't as integrated as they lied about in court.Mar 29 21:21
DaemonFCWindows 98 developed a reputation for instability mainly due to two reasons, in my experience.Mar 29 21:21
DaemonFCContinued usage of vxd drivers instead of WDM, and the addition of the "Shell Update" and Internet Explorer and Friends.Mar 29 21:21
DaemonFCIn the first case, those were basically "Windows-ified" DOS device drivers, and in the latter case, the Shell Update and IE were poorly written, bloated, and full of bugs (especially memory leaks and resource leaks, which would crash the Windows 98 kernel).Mar 29 21:23
DaemonFCWithout IE and the Shell Update, (using the Windows 95 B Shell instead), Windows was actually pretty good at managing the resource heaps.Mar 29 21:23
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DaemonFCBut with the Shell Update and IE installed, it would just sit there and leak from the resource heaps, until the OS crashed, even if you did not do anything except boot the computer and leave it alone.Mar 29 21:24
DaemonFCYou could bring up the Resource Monitor and watch it leak until the BSoD came up and the computer needed to restart.Mar 29 21:24
activelowi can't remember anything good about win98, except it required less RAM to present the useless GUI desktopMar 29 21:25
DaemonFCWindows 98 wasn't really that unreliable except that orders from Bill to crush Netscape by whatever means necessary had stuff hamfisted in on top of it that caused it to crash, which were allegedly integrated.Mar 29 21:25
kingoffrance^ the only thing i ever saw use "active desktop" was ads for disney, nbc, essentially just links to websites.         maybe years later the modern "start menu" is what they were shooting forMar 29 21:26
DaemonFCI had a website that walked people through removing Internet Explorer, step by step, and replacing it with the Windows 95 B shell, which I zipped up and hosted.Mar 29 21:26
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DaemonFC<kingoffrance> ^ the only thing i ever saw use "active desktop" was ads for disney, nbc, essentially just links to websites.         maybe years later the modern "start menu" is what they were shooting forMar 29 21:26
DaemonFCiexplore -channelbandMar 29 21:26
DaemonFCRemoved in IE 8 I think.Mar 29 21:27
kingoffrance:)  i just mean in theory there was some "customization" possible (not that i think it is something i would want) ...in practice who even used that except for ads?  *maybe* some "news" or "weather"Mar 29 21:27
DaemonFCI think IE 7 still brought up the Active Channels thing, but it was blank and by that point the format had failed.Mar 29 21:27
kingoffrancei mean in theory, that would be fully skinnable, more than just colors and fonts and sizes.    again, not saying that is a good ideaMar 29 21:27
kingoffranceit just seems like it was pushed on people, noone really wanted itMar 29 21:28
DaemonFCWell, Active Desktop let you make a website your wallpaper.Mar 29 21:28
kingoffranceyou had the same "html-ized" file manager thingMar 29 21:28
DaemonFCIt did it by opening Internet Explorer in a headless mode and pushing it back behind your desktop icons.Mar 29 21:28
DaemonFCIt was really terrible.Mar 29 21:28
DaemonFCThey put it there just for more "evidence" of how "integrated" IE allegedly was.Mar 29 21:29
activelowalways created a floppy-disk, to boot straight to DOS without w311, w95, w98 GUIMar 29 21:29
DaemonFCI had litestep as my shell at one point.Mar 29 21:29
DaemonFCSo I mean, I never really did like Explorer, but at least the one from Windows 95 was usable.Mar 29 21:30
DaemonFCMost people had 640 x 480 or 800 x 600 or 1024 x 768 at best.Mar 29 21:30
activelowlater then, Office was important, to write useless papers, and html stuff; a new glorious era of computingMar 29 21:30
DaemonFCSo what does Microsoft do? Puts IE-style LARGE buttons in the file browser.Mar 29 21:30
DaemonFCI measured it at 800 x 600 on a typical monitor at one point.Mar 29 21:31
DaemonFCIf you used buttons that size in a program, they were using up about 15% of your display....for BUTTONS.Mar 29 21:31
DaemonFCAnd now that we have more display area and higher resolutions than ever, they make the buttons really tiny.Mar 29 21:32
DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, The Sheriff's department was out here earlier.Mar 29 21:32
DaemonFCTHey walked in and left a red letter taped to someone's door.Mar 29 21:32
DaemonFCWhatever that is, can't be good. Just glad it had nothing to do with me. :/Mar 29 21:33
kingoffranceyes, and last i checked after rearraning everything, floppy for save was kept.   sometimes it seems they are just fucking with pplMar 29 21:33
DaemonFCIf you want to fuck with someone in their 20s just hand them a floppy disk and tell them you 3d printed the save icon.Mar 29 21:33
activeloware there any 56k modem dialup ISPs remaining?Mar 29 21:36
DaemonFCYes.Mar 29 21:36
DaemonFCThere's still some dialup ISPs in the US and there's still some BBS operators. Mar 29 21:37
DaemonFCElon Musk is getting a lot of that rural broadband money to do Starlink. Mar 29 21:37
DaemonFCFor the rural porn addict.Mar 29 21:37
DaemonFCI assume they probably can't tell if you're pirating if you do it over a VPN, though if you're not on the VPN, they're one of the most aggressive ISPs about disconnecting pirates.Mar 29 21:38
DaemonFCI kind of want Starlink so I can say I'm a space pirate.Mar 29 21:38
activelowsatellite is expensive, they can't waste a single bit/sMar 29 21:39
DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, There's apparently a program and browser that can archive and compress entire sites.Mar 29 21:39
techrights-news# A Call to Packagers gemini://rawtext.club/~ploum/2022-03-29-call_to_packagers.gmi "As I use Offpunk everyday, I feel like the experience is more and more polished."Mar 29 21:39
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DaemonFCAll of Wikipedia is apparently about 96 GB in this format.Mar 29 21:39
schestowitz-TRsounds largeMar 29 21:40
schestowitz-TRall languages?Mar 29 21:40
schestowitz-TRand text only?Mar 29 21:40
DaemonFCBlu Ray rips into AV1 and Opus are actually less wasteful of bandwidth than Netfucks.Mar 29 21:41
DaemonFCNetflix, Spotify, Apple Music, etc. are a great big streaming pile of shit.Mar 29 21:41
MinceR(cat) https://imgur.com/t/cats/XQOJRjyMar 29 21:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-House panther memories - Album on ImgurMar 29 21:41
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activelowso trueMar 29 21:42
DaemonFCYou can rip a Blu Ray disc into a little over 1 GB in GOOD quality, or you can stream it from Netfucks or something if they even have it at all, in a video codec from 2003 and an audio codec from 1997.Mar 29 21:42
DaemonFCAnd use about 10 times more bandwidth, and download it again every time you watch it.Mar 29 21:42
activelowsimple calculus: PAL-resolution, let's say 640x480, divide 1920x1080/640x480 then this is the amount of higher bandwith requiredMar 29 21:43
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DaemonFC<schestowitz-TR> sounds largeMar 29 21:43
DaemonFC<schestowitz-TR> all languages?Mar 29 21:43
DaemonFC<schestowitz-TR> and text only?Mar 29 21:43
activelowand PAL resolution/DVD was goodMar 29 21:43
DaemonFCNot sure. JWZ said he downloaded all of Wikipedia into that format.Mar 29 21:43
activelowecho "(1920*1080)/(640*480)" | bc -lMar 29 21:44
DaemonFChttps://www.jwz.org/blog/2022/02/today-is-the-end-of-mask-mandates-which-is-why-my-tests-finally-arrived/Mar 29 21:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jwz.org | jwz: Today is the end of mask mandates, which is why my tests finally arrived.Mar 29 21:45
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DaemonFCGET BACK TO WORKMar 29 21:45
DaemonFCLOLMar 29 21:45
bnchsgod damn itMar 29 21:45
bnchsstarlink light pollutionMar 29 21:45
bnchsthe problem for astronomers they dont want you to knowMar 29 21:45
DaemonFC"And in case you hadn't tried it yet: no, you cannot order 4 tests each month. You get 4. Period."Mar 29 21:46
DaemonFCYeah, I have my ways.Mar 29 21:46
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DaemonFCI got 31 tests.Mar 29 21:46
bnchsyou can download wikipedia all on a hard drive?Mar 29 21:46
bnchsall life's knowledge on a hard driveMar 29 21:46
bnchsawesomeMar 29 21:46
activelowwell yes, a computer 10x faster, or higher data rate, is required to catch up with the higher resolution onlyMar 29 21:47
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XRevan86Looks like Ovsyannikova presents herself like a dissident, goes to Italian talk shows (via VVoIP)…Mar 29 21:47
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XRevan86Do they realise it's impossible to be a Russian dissident from Moscow?Mar 29 21:47
bnchsXRevan86: if you excluded that VVoIPMar 29 21:48
bnchsi would have said thats retardedMar 29 21:48
XRevan86Some people bashed her unjustly, now I see people glorifying her.Mar 29 21:48
DaemonFChttps://www.kiwix.org/en/about/Mar 29 21:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.kiwix.org | What is Kiwix?Mar 29 21:49
bnchs>glorifying herMar 29 21:49
XRevan86She got off the hook, that by default means that she's on the hook in some way.Mar 29 21:49
bnchsyou mean simpingMar 29 21:49
XRevan86bnchs: No, respecting her opinion.Mar 29 21:49
bnchsohMar 29 21:49
DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, Mostly useful if you (1) live in a third world country, (2) are currently being invaded by Russians, or (3) have T-Mobile and do not know when the Internet will be working.Mar 29 21:49
XRevan86like she's an opposition figureMar 29 21:49
bnchsDaemonFC: if i had russians on my assMar 29 21:50
bnchsi wouldnt use starlinkMar 29 21:50
bnchs(meme internet infrastructure)Mar 29 21:50
DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, I'm running an experiment.Mar 29 21:50
bnchsit only takes a few missiles to get rid of the satellitesMar 29 21:51
DaemonFCI hid Mandy's Apple Watch.Mar 29 21:51
bnchsmake them fall of the skyMar 29 21:51
DaemonFCI'm seeing how long it takes him to notice and panic.Mar 29 21:51
bnchsDaemonFC: why are you married to a iToddler®Mar 29 21:51
bnchsagain?Mar 29 21:51
DaemonFCLapse in sanity.Mar 29 21:51
XRevan86bnchs: I mean it in a sense that it seems some Western media thinks like she can't be compromised.Mar 29 21:52
XRevan86* thinkMar 29 21:52
bnchsXRevan86: simpsMar 29 21:52
bnchslike that right?Mar 29 21:52
XRevan86Romantics maybe.Mar 29 21:52
bnchsexactly like thatMar 29 21:53
kingoffrancesubjective, objective :DMar 29 21:53
bnchsthey're like white knights doing this for a piece of dat pussyMar 29 21:53
bnchsdefinition of simpMar 29 21:54
XRevan86I don't think that's what's happening…Mar 29 21:54
bnchswell idkMar 29 21:55
bnchsbut it does seem like that for meMar 29 21:55
schestowitz-TRDaemonFC: i totally agree with jwzMar 29 21:55
schestowitz-TRwe are he sameMar 29 21:55
schestowitz-TRI've just read itMar 29 21:55
schestowitz-TRwe got 19 more testsMar 29 21:55
schestowitz-TRused 2 of 21 Mar 29 21:55
schestowitz-TRwe get no more, not for free Mar 29 21:55
schestowitz-TRlast day is thursdayMar 29 21:56
kingoffrancelet me rephrase: action, reaction </meronvingian>Mar 29 21:56
schestowitz-TRand they already ran out of stock about 2 weeks afgoMar 29 21:56
schestowitz-TR*AgoMar 29 21:56
schestowitz-TRalso, he wastes his money living in sfMar 29 21:57
kingoffrancei think is built into "western media".  they ask for commentators "reaction"Mar 29 21:57
kingoffrance*this isMar 29 21:57
schestowitz-TRbut as mozilla papa he can afford itMar 29 21:57
schestowitz-TRours needs 2 drops, not 3Mar 29 21:57
schestowitz-TR[21:51] <DaemonFC> I hid Mandy's Apple Watch.Mar 29 21:58
schestowitz-TRoh,. shit,he's under watcxh by apll,eMar 29 21:58
schestowitz-TRwhat did he DO?Mar 29 21:58
schestowitz-TRit's the chic version of ankle braceletMar 29 21:58
schestowitz-TRlike rich people rick allen jonesMar 29 21:58
DaemonFCWell, Mr. GOOLAG can apparently afford to live in Shit City and hire shysters.Mar 29 21:59
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DaemonFCShitty Shysters from Shit CityMar 29 21:59
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DaemonFCTHERE IS A PILE......OF HUMAN SHIT.....ON THIS SIDEWALK!Mar 29 21:59
DaemonFC*reports it on app*Mar 29 22:00
DaemonFCMAYOR BREED needs another APP to report all of the drug needles as well.Mar 29 22:00
DaemonFCMaybe they can get 50,000 complaints in that one.Mar 29 22:00
DaemonFCSo maybe if Mr. GOOLAG would move out of Hepatitis Central, he could see real America isn't one of his cartoonish liberal hallucinations.Mar 29 22:02
techrights-newsICBM looking for volunteers (don't say "slaves" though) https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/help-us-test-fedora-linux-36-beta-wallpaper/Mar 29 22:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-communityblog.fedoraproject.org | Help Us Test Fedora Linux 36 Beta wallpaper – Fedora Community BlogMar 29 22:05
techrights-newsNo, it was down due to MICROSOFT, the criminals' company https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/770333/notice-for-all-puppy-linux-users-main-forum-down-due-to-ddos/Mar 29 22:06
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bleepingcomputer.com | NOTICE FOR ALL PUPPY LINUX USERS - main forum down due to DDOS... - Linux & UnixMar 29 22:06
techrights-newsAutomate RHEL web console deployments with the Cockpit and certificate RHEL System Roles ⚓ https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/automate-rhel-web-console-deployments-cockpit-and-certificate-rhel-system-roles ䷉ Source: Red Hat | ICBM | GNU | LinuxMar 29 22:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Automate RHEL web console deployments with the Cockpit and certificate RHEL System RolesMar 29 22:07
mjg59_DaemonFC: Who have I hired?Mar 29 22:07
techrights-newsAMD ads/spam https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu-2204-ryzen5950x&num=1 you don't need this power sink to run GNU/Linux http://techrights.org/2022/02/03/phoronix-went-too-far/Mar 29 22:11
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-An Early Look At The Ubuntu 22.04 LTS Performance On AMD Ryzen 9 5950X + RX 6800 - PhoronixMar 29 22:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | When Blogs Become Marketing and Benchmarks Become Product Promotions | TechrightsMar 29 22:11
DaemonFChttps://wgntv.com/news/orlando-freefall-manual-shows-teen-exceeded-weight-limit/Mar 29 22:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wgntv.com | Orlando FreeFall manual shows teen exceeded weight limit | WGN-TVMar 29 22:13
DaemonFCIf they weighed people, they'd probably be in even more trouble.Mar 29 22:13
DaemonFCYou can tell by looking at him that he must have weighed about 350 pounds at least.Mar 29 22:13
DaemonFCBut I suppose their first clue should have been when nobody could get the harness to latch. So they just put him on the ride anyway?Mar 29 22:14
techrights-newsIt is important for free software to use free software infrastructure • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163125Mar 29 22:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | It is important for free software to use free software infrastructure | Tux MachinesMar 29 22:15
techrights-news"There is a HUGE myth going around that you don't need to use terminal. While on the surface this is true, as soon as you start using your Linux install, you will realize that you absolutely can NOT live without terminal for daily usage." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=NdHjsT3FK8wMar 29 22:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Terminal is NEEDED to use Linux - InvidiousMar 29 22:15
DaemonFCA pettifogger.Mar 29 22:15
DaemonFCWow, I learned a word today.Mar 29 22:15
bnchsDaemonFC: teen exceeded weight limit?Mar 29 22:16
DaemonFC<bnchs> DaemonFC: teen exceeded weight limit?Mar 29 22:16
DaemonFCAnyone that is so fat that you can't get the harness to secure should be told to leave the ride.Mar 29 22:17
bnchsyeeaahhMar 29 22:17
bnchsbut whats the limitMar 29 22:17
techrights-news"The grep command - one of the most popular Linux commands, and definitely deserving of a feature video in the Linux Essentials series. In this video, Jay goes over the basics of the grep command, along with some useful examples." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Tc_jntovCM0Mar 29 22:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Linux Essentials - The grep Command - InvidiousMar 29 22:17
DaemonFC"According to documents obtained by WFLA, the operations manual lists the maximum weight for the ride as less than 287 pounds."Mar 29 22:17
bnchslol i was that much once as a teen tooMar 29 22:17
bnchsmaybe because i was always sitting my ass on the computerMar 29 22:17
DaemonFCI see Moochelle Obummer's school lunch program didn't help him much.Mar 29 22:18
DaemonFCHere kid, have some celery and a quarter portion of "whole grain pizza" that looks like semen-dipped maggots.Mar 29 22:18
DaemonFCThat 400 pound 14 year old over there ruined it for the whole school, you know.Mar 29 22:19
bnchsi always envy'd americans for having school lunch served to themMar 29 22:19
bnchsbut then i realized it was a load of shitMar 29 22:19
schestowitz-TRit's not freeMar 29 22:19
schestowitz-TRit's prepaidMar 29 22:19
bnchsyeahMar 29 22:19
bnchswith taxesMar 29 22:20
schestowitz-TRi'd rather pay for food I likeMar 29 22:20
schestowitz-TRand when I want toMar 29 22:20
schestowitz-TRno "well, it's already paid for, I'm not hungry, but I'll eat anyway"Mar 29 22:20
bnchsDaemonFC: the kid who would hoard up the vending machineMar 29 22:20
DaemonFCIt was so completely disgusting in the 1990s that I didn't buy it and pocketed the lunch money. Then the school administrators hauled me into the office and threatened they'd arrest my parents for "neglect" if I didn't buy the lunch and toss it in the trash. They said I could chuck it, but I had to buy one so they'd get their money from the feds.Mar 29 22:20
schestowitz-TRwhen I started university my hall of residence contract came with mealsMar 29 22:20
schestowitz-TRwe had to wear gowns tooMar 29 22:20
kingoffrancewell it was funny because when i got to high school,   vending machine, pizza hut cut some deal to sell slices, .........Mar 29 22:20
DaemonFCI said, "Do I look like my parents don't feed me?". They said it didn't matter.Mar 29 22:20
schestowitz-TRfor dinner, not breakfastMar 29 22:20
schestowitz-TRa matter or british traditionMar 29 22:20
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schestowitz-TRthe second and third year I took "brwakfast only" contractMar 29 22:21
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DaemonFC"Buy it or we'll arrest your parents on trumped up charges. WE WANT MONEY!"Mar 29 22:21
schestowitz-TRno guilt over unfinished mealsMar 29 22:21
bnchskingoffrance: eating like a kingMar 29 22:21
DaemonFC-National School Lunch ProgramMar 29 22:21
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bnchsor like a fatassMar 29 22:21
schestowitz-TRhi, mateyMar 29 22:21
schestowitz-TRwanted to tell you something but forgot againMar 29 22:21
schestowitz-TRit must have been unimportanytMar 29 22:21
schestowitz-TRotherwise I make mental note or write it downMar 29 22:21
DaemonFCSome schools pass out "free" lunch if most of the kids are so poor they qualify for the free or reduced price program anyway.Mar 29 22:21
schestowitz-TRfood is cheaper in bulkMar 29 22:22
schestowitz-TRbut the quality assurance is low, tooMar 29 22:22
DaemonFCEven at $1.15, it wasn't worth it unless you raced to the lunchroom to get a chef salad before they ran out.Mar 29 22:22
DaemonFCOtherwise it was "diarrhea in a bag" spaghetti.Mar 29 22:22
bnchsDaemonFC: have you ever had a kid order pizza to school?Mar 29 22:22
schestowitz-TRmaybe parents don't knopw hopw to cookMar 29 22:22
schestowitz-TRor forgot how toMar 29 22:22
schestowitz-TRso the kids are left malnourished Mar 29 22:22
DaemonFC<bnchs> DaemonFC: have you ever had a kid order pizza to school?Mar 29 22:22
schestowitz-TRthe state steps inMar 29 22:22
DaemonFCYeah, I did it all the time when my parents put me in private school finally. Thank god.Mar 29 22:23
schestowitz-TRand never gives parents the opportunity to feed the kidsMar 29 22:23
bnchsDaemonFC: what did you orderMar 29 22:23
DaemonFCIt was one classroom and there were restaurants and a supermarket with a deli counter.Mar 29 22:23
schestowitz-TRthe shops at my school sold really rubbish foodMar 29 22:24
DaemonFCAll kinds of good stuff. Mace's Supermarket had a VERY good deli, there were diners all over the place, Penguin Point (a small fast food chain in Indiana), Pizza King (a regional pizza place).Mar 29 22:24
schestowitz-TRexcept one, where they had low-cost hot dogs in a bunMar 29 22:24
bnchsi bet you were called the fatassMar 29 22:24
DaemonFCThere was all sorts of good stuff to eat there because the RCA factory was nearby too.Mar 29 22:24
DaemonFCIt's where all the factory workers phoned their lunch orders into.Mar 29 22:24
DaemonFCSo each day before lunch I'd just call down somewhere and tell them what I wanted.Mar 29 22:24
schestowitz-TRRCA was sold, right?Mar 29 22:25
schestowitz-TRI got an RCA tuner in the 1990sMar 29 22:25
mateyTue 18:34:32  │ 〖kingoffrance〗  │ thats also samson or whoever gets a hair cut and loses his magical powersMar 29 22:25
DaemonFCRCA was sold to GE, which asset stripped it. They wanted government contracts. So they sold the Consumer Electronics division to Thomson (Technicolor SA now, bankrupt).Mar 29 22:25
mateyyep, delilah cut it all off Mar 29 22:25
DaemonFCThey ran it for a while, then fired the engineers, then the plant workers a few years later in stages.Mar 29 22:26
schestowitz-TRDaemonFC: now patent-trolling Mar 29 22:26
DaemonFCFinally, the HR director about a year later. She was the last employee there and just tying up loose ends.Mar 29 22:26
DaemonFCThen someone mysteriously committed arson (again) and they made a huge insurance claim.Mar 29 22:26
DaemonFCThat was the second time at the second building.Mar 29 22:27
schestowitz-TRthankfully us unemployement is very very low nowMar 29 22:27
schestowitz-TRsay economistsMar 29 22:27
schestowitz-TRin bill's guardianMar 29 22:27
DaemonFCIn Gas City, the town near Marion, they set fire to a picture tube warehouse and got an insurance check.Mar 29 22:27
schestowitz-TRGas City?Mar 29 22:27
DaemonFCI remember looking over from the park in like 1998 and seeing black smoke billowing up into the air.Mar 29 22:27
DaemonFC<schestowitz-TR> Gas City?Mar 29 22:27
schestowitz-TR"I swear it wasn't me" cityMar 29 22:28
DaemonFCYes, there was lots of natural gas found in the area in the late 1800s.Mar 29 22:28
DaemonFCSo they renamed it from Harrisburg, Indiana.Mar 29 22:28
DaemonFCThen they squandered the gas by lighting towers of it on fire 24 hours a day to prove it would never run out.Mar 29 22:28
DaemonFCThen it caused a void collapse and they couldn't get to the rest of it.Mar 29 22:28
mateyThen it caused a void collapse and they couldn't get to the rest of it. <- maybe they were ddosedMar 29 22:29
mateyand github shut it downMar 29 22:29
schestowitz-TR[22:06] <techrights-news> No, it was down due to MICROSOFT, the criminals' company https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/770333/notice-for-all-puppy-linux-users-main-forum-down-due-to-ddos/Mar 29 22:30
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bleepingcomputer.com | NOTICE FOR ALL PUPPY LINUX USERS - main forum down due to DDOS... - Linux & UnixMar 29 22:30
bnchspuppy linuxMar 29 22:30
schestowitz-TRsometimes we duffer ddos attacksMar 29 22:31
bnchs"account suspended"Mar 29 22:31
schestowitz-TRI should learn from microsoftMar 29 22:31
bnchsthey obviously got hackedMar 29 22:31
schestowitz-TRsudo shutdown poweroff etc.Mar 29 22:31
schestowitz-TRproblem solvedMar 29 22:31
schestowitz-TRnever knew it was THAT easyMar 29 22:31
bnchswould you?Mar 29 22:31
schestowitz-TRthanks, Satan NuttelaMar 29 22:31
bnchscould you?Mar 29 22:31
bnchsto puppy linux?Mar 29 22:31
bnchssatan nutellaMar 29 22:31
mateynote that people were moving to github to ESCAPE ddos attacksMar 29 22:32
mateyso someone finally attacks someone relying on github, and they get their account taken down.Mar 29 22:32
schestowitz-TRddi you see the github letter tro remove satan?Mar 29 22:32
schestowitz-TRfor his sexism?Mar 29 22:32
DaemonFCYou'd think that Microsoft demonstrating that they'd ruin your project with no warning due to frivolous DMCA take downs would compel people to use hosting OUTSIDE of the United States.Mar 29 22:32
DaemonFCOr better, self-host.Mar 29 22:32
mateyi thought satan was in charge of githubMar 29 22:32
mateynot the indian one, the REAL oneMar 29 22:33
matey"real" oneMar 29 22:33
AdmFubarhttps://trendoceans.com/bhailang-a-toy-programming-language-syntaxes-use-hindi-slang/Mar 29 22:33
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-trendoceans.com | BhaiLang: A toy programming language syntaxes use Hindi slang - TREND OCEANSMar 29 22:33
mateyok its actually hillary, but we all knew thatMar 29 22:33
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2020/07/30/microsoft-gender-equality/Mar 29 22:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Gender (In)Equality: Women Don’t Ask for Raises | TechrightsMar 29 22:33
DaemonFCBeing beyond the reach of US law is the only way to be safe.Mar 29 22:33
matey<AdmFubar> https://trendoceans.com/bhailang-a-toy-programming-language-syntaxes-use-hindi-slang <- already knows where its hostedMar 29 22:33
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DaemonFCThe country is literally getting more like Russia by the minute.Mar 29 22:33
schestowitzsatan know lots of rich people?Mar 29 22:33
bnchsdurgasoft certified languageMar 29 22:34
bnchsplease redeem the gulag play store cardMar 29 22:34
bnchsand do not move the mouse pleaseMar 29 22:34
leahmatey: in anser to your statement the other day: i'm not a gnu developerMar 29 22:34
leahi happen to work with some gnu code, but i don't consider myself part of gnu in any wayMar 29 22:34
leahthough, the gnu project is greatMar 29 22:34
schestowitz-TR:)Mar 29 22:35
bnchsi once used gnu cgiccMar 29 22:35
bnchsfor a fastcgi projectMar 29 22:35
bnchslots of package managers didn't have it so i manually compiled and installed itMar 29 22:35
bnchsplus it was abandonedMar 29 22:35
DaemonFCOKAY GOOLAG! WHAT IS THIS GIGANTIC SORE ON MY PENIS?Mar 29 22:35
bnchsDaemonFC: penile cancerMar 29 22:35
DaemonFCThe Great Pox, you know.Mar 29 22:36
bnchsconsider yourself dead in less than a hourMar 29 22:36
DaemonFC:)Mar 29 22:36
leahi really just don't generally enjoy working with big upstreams. if i have something to contribute though, i'll submit itMar 29 22:36
matey<leah> matey: in anser to your statement the other day: i'm not a gnu developer <- thats what i said you would sayMar 29 22:36
mateyand i suppose its technically true at this pointMar 29 22:36
bnchsdo not lookup penile cancerMar 29 22:37
DaemonFCThanks to the Goolag app I can see what people in my area are Goolaging.Mar 29 22:37
bnchsfuck fuck fuckMar 29 22:37
DaemonFCThere was stuff about Lady Gaga and Bruce Jenner this morning.Mar 29 22:37
bnchsi'm blind right nowMar 29 22:37
leahit's more fun to take a little piece out of the whole and do your own thing with itMar 29 22:37
bnchswhy did i do itMar 29 22:37
mateyimo the best thing anyone can do for gnu is salvage a piece of itMar 29 22:37
schestowitz-TRbnchs: put it on alexaMar 29 22:38
DaemonFCMr. GOOLAG says I'm misgendering.Mar 29 22:38
schestowitz-TRadd "sent to mom"Mar 29 22:38
mateyleah what do you think of mike gerwitz-- also this is not a trick question, also do not answer if you dont want to (which you wont, but yknow)Mar 29 22:38
DaemonFCHe's obviously never heard "You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.".Mar 29 22:38
bnchsalexa, send a picture of vaginal cancer to my momMar 29 22:38
leahmatey: in fact, i think mike is greatMar 29 22:38
psydruid> psydruid: ok, but what about the fear of being singled outMar 29 22:38
psydruidthe market here is diverse enough that no one cares anymore. I see Android, iOS, macOS, GNU/Linux and Windows being used by all kinds of people and there are no clear winners.Mar 29 22:38
leahi spoke to him for a bit last year in fsf's minetest server, during lp2021Mar 29 22:39
leahmike is coolMar 29 22:39
matey <leah> matey: in fact, i think mike is great <- i watched his lp talk todayMar 29 22:39
AdmFubarhttps://www.propublica.org/article/ftc-sues-to-stop-deceptive-turbotax-free-ad-campaign#1288909Mar 29 22:39
mateyi went in with low expectations, there were some good pointsMar 29 22:39
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.propublica.org | FTC Sues to Stop “Deceptive” TurboTax “Free” Ad Campaign — ProPublicaMar 29 22:39
leahwhat did he talk about?Mar 29 22:39
bnchsftc?Mar 29 22:39
leahi only watched the sxmo talk in lp2022Mar 29 22:39
mateywell it was the topic itself that made me sceptical, it was about the "ethics void"Mar 29 22:39
bnchscan i please get a radio licenseMar 29 22:39
leahi know the devMar 29 22:39
DaemonFCThe question from Senator Martha Blackburn from Tennessee about what a woman is seemed straightforward enough. It was a gotcha question though. Mr. GOOLAG acts like Q from Star Trek in that episode where he was cast out of the Continuum and unable to use any of his powers.Mar 29 22:40
bnchsmy gobernment wont give me oneMar 29 22:40
leahhelped him install osboot on his x230 the other dayMar 29 22:40
mateyniceMar 29 22:40
mateyso he has the cool boot screen?Mar 29 22:40
DaemonFC"Easy! You just change the fundamental nature of the universe!"Mar 29 22:40
schestowitz-TRmike seems good to meMar 29 22:40
leahmatey: https://pleroma.debian.social/notice/AHilBdMzhYstNXVa64Mar 29 22:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleroma.debian.socialMar 29 22:40
leahgood guyMar 29 22:40
schestowitz-TRmatey was playing devil's advocate, which is a healthy approachMar 29 22:40
matey<schestowitz-TR> matey was playing devil's advocate <- not even Mar 29 22:41
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2022/03/26/mike-gerwitz-ethics/Mar 29 22:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Mike Gerwitz on the Ethics Void | TechrightsMar 29 22:41
mateyi saw a pattern and i thought "oh no, fuck" Mar 29 22:41
DaemonFCIt seems like so many liberals have absolutely no idea of how facts work, are so scientifically illiterate, that this is how they try to solve problems.Mar 29 22:41
leahhang onMar 29 22:41
AdmFubarhttps://www.propublica.org/article/how-your-shadow-credit-score-could-decide-whether-you-get-an-apartment#1286755Mar 29 22:41
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.propublica.org | How Your Shadow Credit Score Could Decide Whether You Get an Apartment — ProPublicaMar 29 22:41
mateyand then i checked to see if i was rightMar 29 22:41
leahwait a minuteMar 29 22:41
mateyi often prefer to be wrongMar 29 22:41
leahanjan linked to osboot in his postMar 29 22:41
DaemonFCYou redefine the nature of the universe, even though you can't.Mar 29 22:41
leahbut just "osboot"Mar 29 22:41
bnchsadmfubar: so basically like social control mediaMar 29 22:41
leahi didn't know you could do that on mastodon. link stuff without just simply pasting the urlMar 29 22:41
bnchshow bad you areMar 29 22:41
DaemonFCYou want to solve Climate Change? Easy. Change the fundamental nature of the universe so you can get more than 150 miles out of a battery car in winter.Mar 29 22:41
bnchsyou get shadowbannedMar 29 22:41
bnchsor suspendedMar 29 22:41
bnchsor even IPbanned entirelyMar 29 22:42
leahok, looks like you just use <a href="blablablaMar 29 22:42
leahin mastodonMar 29 22:42
DaemonFCYou want to solve some psycho raping and mugging people at gunpoint?Mar 29 22:42
leahhttps://docs.joinmastodon.org/client/guidelines/#formattingMar 29 22:42
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-docs.joinmastodon.org | Guidelines and best practices - Mastodon documentationMar 29 22:42
bnchsDaemonFC: black people right?Mar 29 22:42
DaemonFCChange the fundamental nature of the universe. Send Therapists!Mar 29 22:42
bnchsoh well not the answer i expectedMar 29 22:43
mateyhttps://www.propublica.org/article/how-your-shadow-credit-score-could-decide-whether-you-get-an-apartment <- why solve homelessness when you can cause it with the fascist application of statistics?Mar 29 22:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.propublica.org | How Your Shadow Credit Score Could Decide Whether You Get an Apartment — ProPublicaMar 29 22:43
bnchsyeahMar 29 22:43
DaemonFCWhite people seem to be smart enough to at least rob a bank or something if they're going to go to prison anyway.Mar 29 22:43
bnchsshadow credit score is already a thingMar 29 22:43
leahanywayMar 29 22:43
DaemonFCNot split a Galaxy S6 4 ways after holding a gun on someone.Mar 29 22:43
bnchseven in shit like social control mediaMar 29 22:43
leahmatey: i was actually waiting for you to come back online lolMar 29 22:44
bnchswhere you can get doxed and canceledMar 29 22:44
leahi wanted to correct you when you said that stuff about gnu the other day, but you went offlineMar 29 22:44
mateyoh about you being a gnu dev?Mar 29 22:44
DaemonFCIf you're going to commit a felony, you should at least go big or go home.Mar 29 22:44
leahyeahMar 29 22:44
DaemonFC:)Mar 29 22:44
mateyi knew you werent officially anymoreMar 29 22:44
mateywas there another aspect you wanted to correct?Mar 29 22:44
leahi don't even know what it means tbh. gnu appoints a "maintainer" for a project but big projects get more eyes on it, by people on the outsideMar 29 22:45
DaemonFCMandy's friend who worked at a fast food joint got held up at gunpoint.Mar 29 22:45
mateyi can tell you what it means to me at leastMar 29 22:45
DaemonFCThey got away with $100, after firing a shot into the ceiling.Mar 29 22:45
leahthe gnu label is not what's importantMar 29 22:45
DaemonFC$100 and a sandwich.Mar 29 22:45
leahthe code is what countsMar 29 22:45
DaemonFCAnd then the cops found them and there was a list of felonies of course.Mar 29 22:45
mateythe gnu label is about to become generic anywayMar 29 22:45
mateyits already on the vergeMar 29 22:45
DaemonFCMight as well rob a bank at that point, but NOOOOOOOO.Mar 29 22:45
leahyeah, lots of projects in gnu now that aren't part of the "core"Mar 29 22:46
mateyand that point it wont serve much of a purposeMar 29 22:46
leahplusMar 29 22:46
leahever heard of busybox and sbase?Mar 29 22:46
mateyof courseMar 29 22:46
mateybusybox is sfc now, but my first distro was tomsrtbtMar 29 22:46
leahgnu has some really cool projects thoughMar 29 22:46
leahever heard of gnu poke?Mar 29 22:46
mateyi was looking at it todayMar 29 22:46
mateyjust the page.Mar 29 22:46
leahhttps://www.gnu.org/software/poke/Mar 29 22:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gnu.org | GNU poke - GNU Project - Free Software FoundationMar 29 22:46
mateyyesMar 29 22:46
leahit's the absolute bees kneesMar 29 22:46
mateywhat do you use it forMar 29 22:47
leahhttp://www.jemarch.net/pokeMar 29 22:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jemarch.net | GNU pokeMar 29 22:47
mateyi knowMar 29 22:47
mateymarchesiMar 29 22:47
leahmatey: i don't currently use it, i only recently discovered itMar 29 22:47
leahit's really niceMar 29 22:47
DaemonFCTo be clear, I'm not saying rob a bank. I'm saying if the penalty is the same, the risk is the same, try to make off with $20,000 in a bag instead of a fucking sandwich..... MMMkay, mkay.Mar 29 22:47
mateyi was trying to imagine a use for it-- i know some people are excitedMar 29 22:47
mateythey probably know what its forMar 29 22:47
matey"structured binary"...Mar 29 22:48
leahthe first release was in 2021 i thinkMar 29 22:48
leahit's a relatively new projectMar 29 22:48
leahhttps://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/poke/Mar 29 22:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ftp.gnu.org | Index of /gnu/pokeMar 29 22:48
leahunless there was something before it that it's based on. idkMar 29 22:48
mateyi think its olderMar 29 22:48
mateybecause i think i heard of it before 2021Mar 29 22:48
mateybut maybe that was-- i dont knowMar 29 22:48
leahhttps://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/poke-devel/2019-09/index.htmlMar 29 22:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.gnu.org | poke-devel (date)Mar 29 22:49
mateyokayMar 29 22:49
leahfirst mailing list posts are from 2019Mar 29 22:49
mateyso it was registered before 2021Mar 29 22:49
mateyand thats why ive heard of it before last yearMar 29 22:49
leahlet's have a look at gitMar 29 22:49
mateybut if anyone can tell me a practical use for it-- i mean practical to them-- id love to knowMar 29 22:49
DaemonFCWhat do the criminals think they'll use the gun for?Mar 29 22:50
mateyself-defence!Mar 29 22:50
DaemonFCShooting at the police is probably the last thing they go after you for in Illinois.Mar 29 22:50
mateycriminals need it too (maybe moreso)Mar 29 22:50
DaemonFCThey gave a child pornographer 56 days in county the other day.Mar 29 22:50
DaemonFC56 days!Mar 29 22:50
leahmatey: first commit in git is from september 2nd, 2017Mar 29 22:50
techrights-newsGemini Makes Things Easier, Not Harder, by Adhering to a ’Least Complexity’ Principle | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/03/29/net-least-complexity-principles/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/29/net-least-complexity-principles/Mar 29 22:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Gemini Makes Things Easier, Not Harder, by Adhering to a ‘Least Complexity’ Principle | TechrightsMar 29 22:50
DaemonFCEither you know Bill Gates or you live in an Illinois county with so much crime that nobody cares anymore.Mar 29 22:50
mateycoolMar 29 22:50
mateyi thought i heard of it in 2016 but im probably imagining itMar 29 22:51
mateyat least we know the idea has been aroundMar 29 22:51
mateyi still dont know what it doesMar 29 22:51
schestowitz-TRDaemonFC: rich people allen jones was sending the files aroundMar 29 22:51
schestowitz-TRand got caughtMar 29 22:51
schestowitz-TRiirc, not a single day in prisonMar 29 22:52
schestowitz-TRjust some braceletMar 29 22:52
DaemonFCHe got a suspended sentence that expired with the probation.Mar 29 22:52
schestowitz-TRmedia did not report until a year laterMar 29 22:52
DaemonFCNo registry.Mar 29 22:52
schestowitz-TRduring the xmas break when journalists aren't at the officeMar 29 22:52
DaemonFCNobody gets that!Mar 29 22:52
leahmatey: i think it existed in 2017 but became part of GNU in 2021Mar 29 22:52
mateycoolMar 29 22:52
schestowitz-TRanyway, he knew lots of rich peopleMar 29 22:52
DaemonFCGates probably paid the judge off or something.Mar 29 22:53
schestowitz-TRand then the judge retiredMar 29 22:53
DaemonFCFiguring if Jones went down too hard, he'd start offering the state testimony.Mar 29 22:53
schestowitz-TRthat was quite a few years agoMar 29 22:53
schestowitz-TRmaybe he died sinceMar 29 22:53
leahanywayMar 29 22:53
schestowitz-TR"Well, he's dead"Mar 29 22:53
psydruidbnchs, I told you my niece can't work with Windows, so from that point on I think young people can get used to anything that feels somewhat logical. Apple isn't that entrenched here either. Mar 29 22:53
leahhttps://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/diah1y/kryonaut_vs_mx4/Mar 29 22:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Kryonaut vs. mx-4 : buildapcMar 29 22:54
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2020/04/20/rick-allen-jones-finer-details/Mar 29 22:54
DaemonFCApple's GUIs are not natural or logical at all.Mar 29 22:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Guest Post: Finer Details About Rick Allen Jones, Bill Gates Employee Arrested for Trade of Child Exploitation Footage | TechrightsMar 29 22:54
leahi bought some mx-4 recently and it's... dryMar 29 22:54
leahcompletely dryMar 29 22:54
mateythermal paste?Mar 29 22:54
leahbad batch. and now i get to.. not order more. gonna try kryonaut instead. apparently it's slightly betterMar 29 22:54
mateycrazy idea butMar 29 22:55
schestowitzhttps://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/12/business/jeffrey-epstein-bill-gates.htmlMar 29 22:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Bill Gates Met With Jeffrey Epstein Many Times, Despite His Past - The New York TimesMar 29 22:56
mateyhas anyone considered maybe putting the silicon IN A HEATSINK instead of having a ceramic top?Mar 29 22:56
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/gates-epstein.jpgMar 29 22:56
schestowitzthey knew lots of rich people http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/bill-gates-prince-andrew.jpgMar 29 22:56
bnchsshould you put your project in gnu?Mar 29 22:56
activelowwhat happened to this channel? now your discussing which type of slime to apply to cool microchips...Mar 29 22:56
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2021/05/07/reports-about-bill-gates/Mar 29 22:57
bnchsactivelow: related to techMar 29 22:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Latest Reports About Bill Gates Serve to Confirm or at Least Reaffirm Many People’s Suspicions | TechrightsMar 29 22:57
schestowitzhttps://www.thedailybeast.com/melinda-gates-warned-bill-gates-about-jeffrey-epstein/Mar 29 22:57
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thedailybeast.com | Melinda Gates Warned Bill Gates About Jeffrey EpsteinMar 29 22:57
leahyeah sorry, i wasn't paying any attention to the other discussionMar 29 22:57
activelowanyway, i placed GNU poke on todo, to ship with BaphometOSMar 29 22:57
bnchsmelinda gates is a bit too uglyMar 29 22:57
schestowitz"Private philanthropy in general can be a threat to democratic accountability and a just society."Mar 29 22:57
schestowitzhttps://www.lrb.co.uk/blog/2021/may/the-people-v.-bill-gatesMar 29 22:57
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.lrb.co.uk | Linsey McGoey | The People v. Bill Gates · LRB 4 May 2021Mar 29 22:57
bnchsi'm glad bill gates took herMar 29 22:57
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2020/08/21/zoophilia-gates-estate/Mar 29 22:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Melinda and Zoophilia Found in Tandem in the Illegal Pornographic ‘Stash’ of Bill Gates’ Engineer | TechrightsMar 29 22:58
bnchsin other words: wheres bill gates' childrenMar 29 22:58
schestowitzI still have the original filesMar 29 22:58
schestowitz2900 pagesMar 29 22:58
leahi'll just get back to doing laptops. have fun talking about... bill gatesMar 29 22:58
schestowitzoriginal police filesMar 29 22:58
schestowitznot the CP filesMar 29 22:58
AdmFubarhttps://isc.sans.edu/diary/rss/28492Mar 29 22:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-isc.sans.edu | InfoSec Handlers Diary Blog - SANS Internet Storm CenterMar 29 22:58
bnchsschestowitz: do you like jerking off to them?Mar 29 22:58
bnchsohMar 29 22:58
bnchsi thought uhhhhMar 29 22:58
DaemonFCYeah, one of the people I met on Grindr asked me "Do you like dogs?" and when I found out what that meant I said, "We're done here.".Mar 29 22:58
bnchswhateverMar 29 22:58
schestowitznoMar 29 22:59
schestowitzI don't knoiw rich peopleMar 29 22:59
DaemonFCThat was at the Ford City Mall.Mar 29 22:59
schestowitzgates knows rich peopleMar 29 22:59
DaemonFCI was eating lunch.Mar 29 22:59
schestowitzI just report on those who know "lots of rich people"Mar 29 22:59
bnchsDaemonFC: come onMar 29 23:00
bnchsyou were a little dirty mindedMar 29 23:00
DaemonFCFor some reason, there's a lot of really sick people in Chicago.Mar 29 23:00
bnchsi'm pretty sure his question was innocentMar 29 23:00
bnchsor is it?Mar 29 23:00
schestowitzOld: http://techrights.org/2010/04/02/msbbc-ed-roberts-history/Mar 29 23:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Hijacks Ed Roberts’ Death, Not Just His Career | TechrightsMar 29 23:00
bnchsDaemonFC: was it an innocent question?Mar 29 23:02
schestowitz-TRno, it was notMar 29 23:02
schestowitz-TRiirc, DaemonFC said he went furtherMar 29 23:02
bnchsohMar 29 23:02
schestowitz-TRand asked him to do his dog while he filmsMar 29 23:02
matey/me writes a bot that mixes and matches old posts from pleated jeans and techrightsMar 29 23:02
schestowitz-TRwhich made it sound like maybe it was a setupMar 29 23:03
bnchswell i thought from that messageMar 29 23:03
schestowitz-TRit's grossMar 29 23:03
mateybnchs: he said "when i found out what that meant"Mar 29 23:03
mateymeaning he didnt assumeMar 29 23:03
leahmatey: liquid metal, if applied safely and not allowed to leak, is pretty goodMar 29 23:03
bnchsmatey: ohMar 29 23:03
leahgives you good thermal performanceMar 29 23:03
mateyleah: sure, but what about a metal heatsink die for a chip?Mar 29 23:03
bnchswell i can understandMar 29 23:04
mateyfan not includedMar 29 23:04
leahbaking your processor into a heatsink wouldn't be practicalMar 29 23:04
leahor desirableMar 29 23:04
mateyfair enoughMar 29 23:04
schestowitz-TRcpus should not need these ^_^Mar 29 23:04
schestowitz-TRmake them more efficient ;-)Mar 29 23:04
schestowitz-TRarm canMar 29 23:04
schestowitz-TRwhy can't the rest?Mar 29 23:04
matey/me had an arm chip with a heatsinkMar 29 23:04
bnchswhat about m68kMar 29 23:04
mateygranted it wasnt standardMar 29 23:04
bnchswas used in a cd playerMar 29 23:04
bnchswithout heatsinkMar 29 23:05
leahi've sometimes wondered why arm doesn't just let you overclock the shit out of it and slap a heatsink on it, and those m1 platformsMar 29 23:05
schestowitz-TRmy palm pda from 20 years ago has no cooling shaftMar 29 23:05
leahi guess because appleMar 29 23:05
schestowitz-TRthat's motorola dragonball eraMar 29 23:05
schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_DragonballMar 29 23:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Freescale DragonBall - WikipediaMar 29 23:05
leahanyway, bad batch of mx-4Mar 29 23:06
leahyou can tell when paste is badMar 29 23:06
schestowitz"The more recent DragonBall MX series microcontrollers, later renamed the Freescale i.MX (MC9328MX/MCIMX) series, are intended for similar application to the earlier DragonBall devices but are based on an ARM processor core instead of a 68000 core."Mar 29 23:06
bnchshuhMar 29 23:07
bnchsARMMar 29 23:07
schestowitz-TRit's still running and I use itMar 29 23:07
leahschestowitz-TR: btw did you hear, the nvidia merger didn't happenMar 29 23:07
bnchswell theres a problem about no heatsinkMar 29 23:07
leahit got blockedMar 29 23:07
leahnvidia wanted to buy armMar 29 23:07
bnchsthe phone gets laggy and heats upMar 29 23:07
bnchsand if it becomes worseMar 29 23:08
mateythe nvidia merger didn't happen \o/Mar 29 23:08
bnchsit just shuts dkwnMar 29 23:08
bnchsand restartsMar 29 23:08
activelowfirst of all, i need to implement missing pieces with TinyCC for both aarch32 and aarch64, which won't be easy; before thinking about any other ISAMar 29 23:08
mateythe nvidia merger didn't happen https://yewtu.be/watch?v=-50NdPawLVYMar 29 23:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Crab Rave 10 Hours - InvidiousMar 29 23:08
activelowif at all; chances are i'll take refuge into z80/gigatron realm to hack and play thereMar 29 23:09
leahmatey: what they hell am i watchingMar 29 23:09
leahand why do i like it?Mar 29 23:09
mateyleah: while you were revaming coreboot you missed a memeMar 29 23:10
mateythis is an oldie nowMar 29 23:10
leahi miss every memeMar 29 23:10
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mateyi guess you dont miss them muchMar 29 23:10
leahi only recently discovered the "angry face" thingMar 29 23:11
leahi think they called it "rage meme"Mar 29 23:11
leahor something like thatMar 29 23:11
mateyspoiler alert: angry cat is deadMar 29 23:11
bnchstrollfaceMar 29 23:11
mateytrololololololololol guy is dead tooMar 29 23:11
bnchsno resurrectedMar 29 23:12
mateyi mean the singerMar 29 23:12
bnchsas well as the othersMar 29 23:12
bnchsohMar 29 23:12
leahnyan cat was goodMar 29 23:12
mateynyan cat is a perfect example of why copyright needs to dieMar 29 23:13
bnchshatsune miku songMar 29 23:13
leahhttps://vid.puffyan.us/watch?v=jIQ6UV2onyIMar 29 23:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-vid.puffyan.us | Nyan Cat 10 hours HD 1080p - InvidiousMar 29 23:13
leahthis just makes me happy, every timeMar 29 23:13
mateybut oh no if copyright dies, people will stop making things!Mar 29 23:13
leahit's a cat poptart that farts rainbows. what's not to love lolMar 29 23:14
mjg59_Remember that copyright is the only way the GPL worksMar 29 23:14
bnchsbut whats so copyright about thisMar 29 23:14
mateyit's a cat poptart that farts rainbows <- basically the best of both wordsMar 29 23:14
bnchsthe song?Mar 29 23:14
mateyfucking typosMar 29 23:14
mateybnchs wait i think i have a urlMar 29 23:14
mjg59_A world without copyright isn't necessarily one where we retain the same level of access to source codeMar 29 23:14
mjg59_(I think it's probably worth the tradeoff, but others might disagree)Mar 29 23:14
DaemonFC<schestowitz-TR> and asked him to do his dog while he filmsMar 29 23:15
leahi actually agree with mjg59_ Mar 29 23:15
DaemonFC<schestowitz-TR> which made it sound like maybe it was a setupMar 29 23:15
DaemonFCProbably.Mar 29 23:15
leahwithout copyright, you'd still have restrictions on thingsMar 29 23:15
DaemonFC<mjg59_> A world without copyright isn't necessarily one where we retain the same level of access to source codeMar 29 23:15
mateycant find itMar 29 23:15
DaemonFCWithout copyright on source code, they could still obscure the source code.Mar 29 23:15
leahmjg59_: wouldn't basically all code be permissive without copyright?Mar 29 23:15
schestowitz-TR[23:11] <matey> spoiler alert: angry cat is dead Mar 29 23:15
DaemonFCYou'd just have the right to reverse engineer it without hiding that.Mar 29 23:15
schestowitz-TRgrumpyMar 29 23:15
mjg59_leah: YeahMar 29 23:15
matey<schestowitz-TR> grumpy <- yes, grumpyMar 29 23:16
leahwhich, tbh, i mean the power of a free software project is the number of eyes on itMar 29 23:16
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mateybut bashful and sneezy cat are still aroundMar 29 23:16
mjg59_leah: But it means that people who currently provide access to source code under non-free licenses would have more incentive not to provide thatMar 29 23:16
bnchsokMar 29 23:16
bnchsmatey: longcatMar 29 23:16
leahmjg59_: what if you introduced some opt-in copyleft legislation?Mar 29 23:16
mateybnchs: is still loooooooongMar 29 23:16
mjg59_leah: Would the argument be that you should be entitled to some degree of protection if there's a public benefit associated with it?Mar 29 23:16
leahget rid of copyright, but introduce a legal framework (international convention) for copyleft, where if you declare copyleft on a work, the same sort of rules applyMar 29 23:16
leahbut otherwise, everything is permissive by defaultMar 29 23:17
schestowitz-TRleah: it's one of manyMar 29 23:17
leahi actually think that would be a really good thingMar 29 23:17
schestowitz-TRthe eyes thingMar 29 23:17
schestowitz-TRthat's an "open source" talking pointMar 29 23:17
schestowitz-TRfocusing on "transparency" of codeMar 29 23:17
schestowitz-TRor "Quality"|Mar 29 23:17
schestowitz-TRnot freedom aspectsMar 29 23:17
DaemonFCMicrosoft's co-pilot is plagiarism.Mar 29 23:17
leahi'm generally anti-copyleft but i do think having a copyleft framework in law would be goodMar 29 23:17
DaemonFCIt's copyright infringement for certain.Mar 29 23:17
mjg59_leah: I think the risk here is something like what happened with patents - nominally giving people some additional right to control something they produce in return for providing public benefitMar 29 23:17
leahi used to believe in universal copyleft by law, but i still think having a formal copyleft framework in law would be greatMar 29 23:18
DaemonFCAnd even if it wasn't, it's been shown to recommend that you put lots of bugs in your code.Mar 29 23:18
leahto replace copyrightMar 29 23:18
leahbut make it opt-inMar 29 23:18
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leahcopyright meanwhile is opt-out, and gpl sort of hacks copyright lawMar 29 23:18
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DaemonFCI doubt even Google would do something so obviously illegal as Microsoft Co-Pilot.Mar 29 23:18
mjg59_leah: But over time that being heavily influenced by vested interests in ways that reduce the public benefit while granting more rights to the people who already have powerMar 29 23:18
techrights-newsSimplicity of Gemini and insistence on a lack of features does not make it for ‘ricers’ or patronising geeks; au contraire — it makes it a lot more approachable to many more people http://techrights.org/2022/03/29/net-least-complexity-principles/Mar 29 23:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Gemini Makes Things Easier, Not Harder, by Adhering to a ‘Least Complexity’ Principle | TechrightsMar 29 23:18
leahmjg59_: i think having a formal copyleft framework in law would benefit societyMar 29 23:19
matey/me thinks that having most of human culture from 1911 to the present locked up just so theres slightly more incentive to release source code is a shitty compromiseMar 29 23:19
mjg59_leah: I think it's an interesting ideaMar 29 23:19
mjg59_I worry it'd be hard to formalise in a way that didn't have negative consequencesMar 29 23:19
leahmjg59_: and existing permissive projects would be basically unaffectedMar 29 23:19
DaemonFCIn a way, proprietary software being copyrighted is good.Mar 29 23:19
leahmjg59_: the law could take into account existing copyleft licenses under copyrightMar 29 23:19
mjg59_Anyway, I need to go and do teaching prepMar 29 23:19
leahand "assimilate" themMar 29 23:19
DaemonFCIt's usually more buggy than Free Software, by 30-40%, something like that.Mar 29 23:19
leahexisting copyleft works would remain so, but under the new lawMar 29 23:19
DaemonFCWould you want it if you could use it?Mar 29 23:20
matey<DaemonFC> Would you want it if you could use it <- if yo ucould use it, some of it could be fixed Mar 29 23:20
schestowitz-TRDaemonFC: hence the secrecyMar 29 23:20
leahmjg59_: oh, you teach now?Mar 29 23:20
schestowitz-TR"our power is that we hide the loq quality and defects"Mar 29 23:20
leahcollege students i meanMar 29 23:20
schestowitz-TRno incentive to improve that, eitherMar 29 23:20
mateygranted most of it would just be abandonedMar 29 23:20
mjg59_leah: Yeah I teach OS security at BerkeleyMar 29 23:20
leahcool!Mar 29 23:20
DaemonFCMary Jo Foley, before ZDNet went full shitpost.Mar 29 23:20
DaemonFCWindows 2000 and the 56,000 bugs.Mar 29 23:20
schestowitz-TRzdnet has made cutsMar 29 23:21
leahmjg59_: you're cool now. i automatically respect anyone who works in educationMar 29 23:21
leaheducation is a noble professionMar 29 23:21
schestowitz-TRnot many articles there anymoreMar 29 23:21
schestowitz-TRlots of their 'articles' are webspamMar 29 23:21
mjg59_leah: I'm super part time, it's one class a weekMar 29 23:21
DaemonFCNo, bragging about how McDonalds will spy on people and make them more obese and cut jobs using "AI".Mar 29 23:21
mateyeducation is a noble profession <- in theoryMar 29 23:21
leahokMar 29 23:21
mjg59_But they gave me an award for it, so that's niceMar 29 23:21
leahteaching is what i want to do, one dayMar 29 23:22
leahjust have to get an actual degree firstMar 29 23:22
leahall my knowledge and skill is self-taughtMar 29 23:22
MinceR29 234150 < DaemonFC> You want to solve Climate Change? Easy. Change the fundamental nature of the universe so you can get more than 150 miles out of a battery car in winter.Mar 29 23:22
MinceRjust put a ZPM in itMar 29 23:22
leahput solar panels on every roofMar 29 23:23
leahthe british government was doing that, back in 2010Mar 29 23:23
mateyleah: before debian went stupid i was writing a curriculum for refurbishing used machines with debianMar 29 23:23
leahoffering free solar panels to everyoneMar 29 23:23
schestowitz-TRuse solar panels to mold solar panels :-)Mar 29 23:23
mjg59_leah: Oh, I wouldn't worry too much about the degree - they're letting me do this despite my degrees being in geneticsMar 29 23:23
mateyfor a nightclass.Mar 29 23:23
schestowitz-TRand use solar panels to mine the materialsMar 29 23:23
mateyi could have taught that without a degreeMar 29 23:23
DaemonFCPut solar panels on the sidewalks in San Francisco and then spray off the 50,000 piles of human shit per year so mjg59_ doesn't step in any by mistake.Mar 29 23:24
DaemonFCuse the human shit for the busMar 29 23:24
schestowitz-TRand feeds assembly line workers with chromophile [sic]Mar 29 23:24
leahDaemonFC: actually, it's funny you mention that. have you ever noticed that bird poo never stains solar panels on peoples roofsMar 29 23:24
DaemonFCThe #2 is coming in. I hope it doesn't leave skid marks!Mar 29 23:24
leahit slides offMar 29 23:24
mateyof course after systemd came through i threw the idea away Mar 29 23:24
leahthe material is made to actually not allow anything to stick to itMar 29 23:24
schestowitz-TRmaybe the crispr patent pool will engineer some solar people for usMar 29 23:24
leahlook at solar panels on roofs when it snowsMar 29 23:25
mjg59_DaemonFC: Have you ever actually visited San Francisco?Mar 29 23:25
mateythey should put solar panels on carsMar 29 23:25
schestowitz-TR"I'm hungry, gonna go out to the sun now to bathe^H^H^Heast"Mar 29 23:25
schestowitz-TR*eastMar 29 23:25
mateycar washes will go out of businessMar 29 23:25
DaemonFC<mjg59_> DaemonFC: Have you ever actually visited San Francisco?Mar 29 23:25
schestowitz-TR>eatMar 29 23:25
DaemonFCI'm trying not to. That's going well.Mar 29 23:25
mjg59_You seem to have a very strange idea about how much human shit there is lying aroundMar 29 23:25
DaemonFCThe app logged a lot of piles of it.Mar 29 23:25
leahmjg59_: i was just answering DaemonFC scientificallyMar 29 23:26
DaemonFCAnd they had to put in port a potties to try to get the bums to go there.Mar 29 23:26
leahno but, for real, put solar panels everywhereMar 29 23:26
mjg59_It turns out that giving people access to toilets does actually result in more shit ending up in toiletsMar 29 23:26
leahthey're pretty robust these days, and should last a few decades before needing to be replacedMar 29 23:26
mateyno but, for real, put solar panels everywhere <- yesMar 29 23:26
DaemonFCmjg59_, Thanks to the city app, the amount of human shit is pretty quantifiable.Mar 29 23:26
DaemonFCIt's even geolocatable.Mar 29 23:26
leahput solar on every roofMar 29 23:26
mjg59_DaemonFC: And you've compared that to other cities?Mar 29 23:27
leahevery businessMar 29 23:27
leahevery toasterMar 29 23:27
matey<DaemonFC> mjg59_, Thanks to the city app, the amount of human shit is pretty quantifiable. <- how does itMar 29 23:27
DaemonFCThe shit has its own GPS coordinates.Mar 29 23:27
mateyare people "logging" it in?Mar 29 23:27
DaemonFCThat's how you know it's San Francisco.Mar 29 23:27
leahsolar panels on cars is a good idea tooMar 29 23:27
leahcharge the electric engineMar 29 23:27
mjg59_matey: It's a general purpose app for users to report things that the city should fixMar 29 23:27
DaemonFC<mjg59_> DaemonFC: And you've compared that to other cities?Mar 29 23:27
DaemonFCI have never seen a pile of shit on the sidewalk in Chicago.Mar 29 23:27
mateymjg59_ oh okayMar 29 23:27
leahpretty much just... solar panels, and cut down on meat/dairy (huge polluter)Mar 29 23:28
DaemonFCPeople even pick up after their dog.Mar 29 23:28
leahshould solve the climate crisisMar 29 23:28
schestowitz-TRthere's literal shit in SFMar 29 23:28
schestowitz-TR"SCOI"Mar 29 23:28
schestowitz-TRSCOMar 29 23:28
leahand i think it's easily affordableMar 29 23:28
leahcan wire up the solar panels to put electricity back on the grid tooMar 29 23:28
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mateyleah any idea what the ratio is like of beef: dairy industry in terms of pollution?Mar 29 23:28
leahsolar+upsMar 29 23:28
schestowitz-TRleah: still need a lot of energy for winterMar 29 23:28
mateyi know beef is awfulMar 29 23:29
schestowitz-TRand to mine and assemble batteriesMar 29 23:29
leahups in your homeMar 29 23:29
leahi used to work for a solar companyMar 29 23:29
schestowitz-TRit's hard to melt things with electric powerMar 29 23:29
leahthey put giant battery on your mains, that gets charged during the dayMar 29 23:29
schestowitz-TRit's OKMar 29 23:29
leahat night, it runs off of that to power stuff. if that runs out, or solar doesn't generate enough, there's still electricity from the gridMar 29 23:29
schestowitz-TRfor TVs and stuffMar 29 23:29
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schestowitz-TRthe moment you use 1200 watt appliances it kills the battery fastMar 29 23:30
bnchshow much would a MIPS cpu last on a battery charged by a solar panelMar 29 23:30
bnchsschestowitz-TRMar 29 23:30
DaemonFC<mjg59_> matey: It's a general purpose app for users to report things that the city should fixMar 29 23:30
leahyeah but the way you set it up, you still get energy from the grid if the panels don't generate enoughMar 29 23:30
leahschestowitz-TR: it's completely automaticMar 29 23:30
bnchsfuckMar 29 23:30
DaemonFCThere's a lot of shit that should be fixed there.Mar 29 23:30
mjg59_bnchs: An R12000 would last a few minutes, probablyMar 29 23:30
schestowitz-TReloectric container shipping boats, planes, tankers don't do well on solarMar 29 23:30
DaemonFCLike the cost of living, and shit.Mar 29 23:30
bnchswrong tab sorryMar 29 23:30
bnchsmjg59_: oh wellMar 29 23:30
mjg59_bnchs: "A MIPS" doesn't tell you much - there's a whole range of power consumption depending on the specific chipMar 29 23:31
schestowitz-TRbnchs: they're almost like pocket calculatorsMar 29 23:31
schestowitz-TRif on idleMar 29 23:31
mjg59_Back when SGI were still making MIPS machines, they chewed through a *lot* of powerMar 29 23:31
leahsolar and... wind turbines, hydroelectric if possible... and i guess nuclear (cleaner than using coal, but there's waste storage, plus uranium mining is... brutal. but nuclear is the lesser evil compared to coal)Mar 29 23:31
DaemonFCIf you spend more than $60,000 on a house, it should be well over 1,800 square feet, with three bedrooms and an attached garage, on 2 acres of land.Mar 29 23:32
schestowitz-TRmaking many assumptionsMar 29 23:32
DaemonFCAnd the property tax shouldn't be more than $550 a year.Mar 29 23:32
schestowitz-TRfloods, wartime etc.Mar 29 23:32
schestowitz-TRleah: we need to lower energy consumptionMar 29 23:33
DaemonFCOnly the fucking stupid liberals could ruin the American Dream.Mar 29 23:33
leahschestowitz-TR: that tooMar 29 23:33
schestowitz-TRthe simplest way is, to put it bluntlyMar 29 23:33
DaemonFCThey've proven that.Mar 29 23:33
schestowitz-TRlessen population sizeMar 29 23:33
DaemonFCIf you have any Biden Dollars, spend them while you can.Mar 29 23:33
leahschestowitz-TR: have solar/wind/hydroelectric powering everything, and nuclear as backup to fill the gapMar 29 23:33
schestowitz-TRbut that's bad for capitalismMar 29 23:33
schestowitz-TRlike 30 million USians paying back 30 trillion in national debtMar 29 23:33
schestowitz-TRthat's like a million per citizenMar 29 23:34
DaemonFCI was talking to mom. I said I'm stocking up on food and supplies because they're stealing so much with inflation that you're better off with the provisions.Mar 29 23:34
schestowitz-TRfor a family of 4, it's $4,000,000Mar 29 23:34
DaemonFC<schestowitz-TR> for a family of 4, it's $4,000,000Mar 29 23:34
bnchsmjg59_: lets just say they're a 333Mhz boardcom MIPS cpu (BCM7356)Mar 29 23:34
mateypresumably if you have an amicable way of reducing the global populationMar 29 23:34
DaemonFCMarketwatch be like: How to get by on $4,000,000 a year when you still feel broke!Mar 29 23:34
mateyyou can also get them to forgive each other trillions in debtMar 29 23:35
mateysince the value of the _________ is imaginary anywayMar 29 23:35
DaemonFCI pick blueberries on Thursdays and my wife vagazzles labradoodles. Our home budget, $4 million.Mar 29 23:35
schestowitzhttps://www.reuters.com/article/us-offshore-wealth-idUSBRE86L03U20120722Mar 29 23:35
mjg59_bnchs: Do you mean 7346?Mar 29 23:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Super rich hold $32 trillion in offshore havens | ReutersMar 29 23:35
DaemonFCHouse Hunters Shit FranciscoMar 29 23:35
mjg59_bnchs: In any case, stuff like that is probably drawing ~2W - you could run it for a long time (but that's also true of low power x86)Mar 29 23:36
techrights-newsThe UK and US have such bot farms, too https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/29/ukriane-russia-bot-farm-disinformation/Mar 29 23:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Ukraine security agency shuts down 5 Russian bot farms • The RegisterMar 29 23:37
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matey/me proposes making chips more efficient by removing intel meMar 29 23:37
techrights-newsMisinformation/Disinformation is NOT a Russian inventiob.Mar 29 23:37
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bnchsmjg59_ 7325*Mar 29 23:38
matey/me and by installing a better boot logoMar 29 23:38
mjg59_matey: ME is really not a meaningful part of the power consumption, although I'd be happy to see it fuck offMar 29 23:38
bnchsmatey: intel me is not part of the CPU?Mar 29 23:38
schestowitz-TRwaste of transistorsMar 29 23:38
matey/me proposes it regardless of actual savings, like most green energy projectsMar 29 23:38
leahi have to wonder if intel me violates the computer misuse act in the ukMar 29 23:39
mateythose laws are only for mortalsMar 29 23:39
leahyou don't sign a contract that says you accept what the me is doing to youMar 29 23:39
bnchsyeahMar 29 23:39
leahmost people aren't aware it even existsMar 29 23:39
bnchsintel me is rarely documentedMar 29 23:39
bnchsit would be illegalMar 29 23:39
mjg59_leah: What aspects of it are you thinking of in that respect?Mar 29 23:40
leahcomputer misuse act is the act that says you can't, like, backdoor someone or access their computer without permissionMar 29 23:40
leahright?Mar 29 23:40
mateywhen companies like intel run afoul of the law, they usually just rewrite the lawsMar 29 23:40
mjg59_Right, but by default ME isn't listening to the network (it *could*, it just isn't)Mar 29 23:40
techrights-newsIf SUSE or OpenSUSE believes this will bring more contributors, than it's ill-advised https://news.opensuse.org/2022/03/29/os-finalizes-new-coc/Mar 29 23:40
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leahmjg59_: how do you know thatMar 29 23:41
MinceR30 002733 < DaemonFC> That's how you know it's San Francisco.Mar 29 23:41
*psydruid doesn't think documenting Intel me is necessary, it just needs to be eradicatedMar 29 23:41
mjg59_leah: The ME firmware isn't encrypted (it's encoded with a weird Hufmann table, but that's been REd)Mar 29 23:41
MinceRi guess budapest has too many dog turds to fit in such a databaseMar 29 23:41
leah5mb of secret sauce connected is very susMar 29 23:41
mjg59_leah: So people have spent a bunch of time pulling that apart and have found no evidence (but have found other vulnerabilities at various poitns)Mar 29 23:42
MinceRamogusMar 29 23:42
leah5mb of secret sauce connected to the internetMar 29 23:42
bnchssusMar 29 23:42
bnchsamogusMar 29 23:42
schestowitz-TRMinceR: gypsy king is the biggest oneMar 29 23:42
MinceRindeedMar 29 23:42
leahmjg59_: yeah i'm familiar with me_cleaner's workMar 29 23:42
schestowitz-TRputin put him in a small bagMar 29 23:42
mjg59_Intel *could* have put a backdoor in at the silicon level, but then so could any other ethernet vendorMar 29 23:42
mjg59_It's possible, but we have no evidence of itMar 29 23:43
leahyetMar 29 23:43
mjg59_SureMar 29 23:43
MinceRafaik other ethernet interfaces lack that level of access to the rest of the system, thoughMar 29 23:43
bnchsi dont get people's method of avoiding intel meMar 29 23:43
mateymincer: maybe, maybe not if we consider what a number of implants can do Mar 29 23:43
mjg59_MinceR: Ethernet controllers can DMA, so until you have IOMMU enabled (which most Linux distros still don't do by default) they have pretty equivalent levels of accessMar 29 23:43
bnchs(just dont use ethernet)Mar 29 23:43
schestowitzpsydruid: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu-2204-ryzen5950x&num=1Mar 29 23:44
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bnchsi mean first of allMar 29 23:44
schestowitzyou need Ryzen to run a sub-1GB system?Mar 29 23:44
matey <bnchs> (just dont use ethernet) <- lolMar 29 23:44
leahmjg59_: and in light of spectre/meltdown, iommu is kinda brokenMar 29 23:44
bnchseven if you used wifiMar 29 23:44
leahbut there are mitigationsMar 29 23:44
bnchsit would still manage to connect to the serversMar 29 23:44
bnchssince the wifi card is authenicated in the entire systemMar 29 23:44
mjg59_MinceR: And even if you do have a working IOMMU setup, the SKBs that the ethernet controller is given access to contain function pointers, so you can still just generate arbitrary code exec in the kernel by pointing those elsewhereMar 29 23:45
MinceRgreatMar 29 23:45
mjg59_MinceR: At some level we just have to trust hardwareMar 29 23:45
mjg59_Libre hardware obviously buys us something thereMar 29 23:45
MinceRevery day it sounds more like we should just nuke this entire industry and start over from scratchMar 29 23:45
MinceRit's a fractal of shitMar 29 23:45
bnchs"ethernet connector"Mar 29 23:46
leahi'm going to bedMar 29 23:46
bnchs"function pointers"Mar 29 23:46
bnchswait wait waitMar 29 23:46
bnchsyou're saying that the controller has access to the CPU?Mar 29 23:46
techrights-newsVulkan Beta Driver Release Updates https://developer.nvidia.com/vulkan-driver "March 29th, 2022 - Windows 473.33, Linux 470.62.26"Mar 29 23:46
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MinceRit has access to RAM, via DMAMar 29 23:46
matey <MinceR> it's a fractal of shit <- hungarian/san franciscan hybrid shitMar 29 23:46
bnchsso how does it point to those function pointersMar 29 23:46
leahmjg59_: i trust hardware in general, more than softwareMar 29 23:46
mjg59_bnchs: The structure that contains ethernet packets in Linux also contains function pointers that the kernel should call after the packet transmission is complete (for example)Mar 29 23:46
leahit's more difficult to backdoor hardwareMar 29 23:46
leahit's cheaper to mess with softwareMar 29 23:47
mjg59_bnchs: There's no inherent need for the ethernet controller to have access to the rest of the data in that structure, but it doesMar 29 23:47
bnchsohMar 29 23:47
schestowitz-TRleah: also easier to remotely modify the s/wMar 29 23:47
bnchsso its uselessMar 29 23:47
schestowitz-TRsans microcodeMar 29 23:47
MinceRapparently the US government + megacorporations can afford to backdoor hardwareMar 29 23:47
mjg59_bnchs: So a hostile ethernet controller can just change where that function pointer points, and then after the packet is transmitted the kernel will just follow it to wherever the controller pointed itMar 29 23:47
bnchsoh i get itMar 29 23:47
bnchshow do you think of preventing thisMar 29 23:47
schestowitz-TRmany machines now come with 2 OSesMar 29 23:48
schestowitz-TRphones doMar 29 23:48
bnchsmake a seperate struct?Mar 29 23:48
psydruidschestowitz, Ryzen performance is very welcome but not how much power it needs, I find that I can overall do many things with 1-2 GB, but the (very low-end for modern times) processor is a bit of a bottleneckMar 29 23:48
mjg59_So if you know the kernel layout, you can trick the kernel into executing halfway into a function (or something) and modify the security state of the kernelMar 29 23:48
schestowitz-TRone for towerMar 29 23:48
schestowitz-TRthen ME/PSPMar 29 23:48
mjg59_bnchs: Yeah, though that would have a major performance impactMar 29 23:48
schestowitz-TRMicrosoft also bought a companyMar 29 23:48
mjg59_Wouldn't matter for most people, but high network traffic services would take a lot more CPUMar 29 23:48
schestowitz-TRthey get to control lots of embedded stuff this wayMar 29 23:48
psydruid> every day it sounds more like we should just nuke this entire industry and start over from scratchMar 29 23:49
psydruid> it's a fractal of shitMar 29 23:49
psydruidwe *must* do it, there is no alternativeMar 29 23:49
schestowitz-TRor to lie about the reach of azure by branding the new company "azure"Mar 29 23:49
schestowitz-TRcalling an OS thatMar 29 23:49
schestowitz-TROS that did not even develop but bought in 2019Mar 29 23:49
schestowitz-TRpsydruid: not just indutryMar 29 23:50
schestowitz-TRalso many protocolsMar 29 23:50
schestowitz-TRinc. wwwMar 29 23:50
schestowitz-TRor w3c/html/http(s)Mar 29 23:50
psydruidand the worst part is that academics are in on this agenda, as active low likes to sayMar 29 23:50
schestowitz-TRlook who sponsors universitiesMar 29 23:50
schestowitz-TRand they prepare pupils/studentd for "the real world"Mar 29 23:50
schestowitz-TR"industry skills"Mar 29 23:51
schestowitz-TRIDEsMar 29 23:51
mateyunfortunately its difficult to explain the behaviour of academics without sullying the various professions of sex workersMar 29 23:51
bnchsschestowitz-TR: epic gaymes sponsors programming schools aswellMar 29 23:52
bnchsthey prepare students for unreal engineMar 29 23:52
schestowitz-TRhahaMar 29 23:52
schestowitz-TRthere are not "game development" degreesMar 29 23:52
schestowitz-TRusually in not-so-good unisMar 29 23:53
schestowitz-TRthey get called "colleges"Mar 29 23:53
bnchsa true uni would teach the students to use graphics API and make their own engineMar 29 23:53
activelowi want be able to design hardware (and software) with pencil and paper; every single transistorMar 29 23:53
bnchsnot micro$oft directxMar 29 23:53
bnchsbut openglMar 29 23:53
mateyhttps://polytechnic.purdue.edu/degrees/game-development-and-designMar 29 23:53
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mateyharvard has courses but i dont know what degree they offer.Mar 29 23:54
bnchsthe only programs i've seen use framebuffer software rendering entirely was for embedded softwareMar 29 23:54
bnchslike frontend for a receiver boxMar 29 23:54
bnchsthese usually have no GPUsMar 29 23:55
bnchsjust stating, i've seen people here say opengl is bad and use SW renderingMar 29 23:57
mateyhttps://www.cs.usc.edu/academic-programs/masters/game-development/Mar 29 23:57
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