Bonum Certa Men Certa

Clytie Siddall & Debian at Murray River

posted by Roy Schestowitz on Aug 05, 2024,
updated Aug 05, 2024

Reprinted with permission from Daniel Pocock.

In the first blog about the tragic passing of Clytie Siddall, I looked at the question of who has a duty of care. Debian itself is a piece of software so Debian can't have a duty of care. It is the people, the employers and sponsors who have a duty of care.

I began doing voluntary work myself at the same time that I passed the amateur radio exam. I was fourteen years old. In most cases, volunteering makes society better. In the world of Debian, I resigned from some of my voluntary activites around the time my father died and the only response I got was sheer rudeness from the Debian clique around Cambridge.

Some of the first voluntary work I did was at the Murray River. It is a large river and it is political too. In other words, the river forms a border between the states of Victoria and New South Wales.

Within the first year of getting my amateur license, I had been asked to volunteer for events like the Red Cross Murray River Canoe Marathan and the Southern 80 water ski race.

The one time that we threw an IBM employee into a river, it was also the Murray, at Wentworth, about 100km east from where Clytie lived at Renmark.

By an unusual coincidence, when Clytie Siddall passed away in 2015, during a period of conflict in the Debian volunteer "community", Clytie's family chose to cremate her remains and disperse them under a tree beside the Murray River, the same place where I started doing voluntary work when I was fourteen years old. The message from debian-private is below.

Another coincidence that I mentioned earlier, the day that Adrian von Bidder died was the same day Carla and I were getting married. Debian again.

The year that rogue members of the Debian Cambridge clique started spreading rumors about a relationship with my Google Summer of Code intern was the same summer that the intern got married herself. Imagine having Debian/Google gossip about your first internship hanging over the reputation of your new family.

These are all very awkward coincidences.

 
Subject: Re: Clytie Siddall passed....
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2015 06:44:36 +0100
From: Christian PERRIER <bubulle@debian.org>
To: debian-private@lists.debian.org

Hello fellow project members,
Here is what I take as a "thank you" from Pete, Clytie's husband, to the entire Debian Projetc:
> Hello Peter, > > Below is the official publication of the project, which has been > published on our wen site, as well as sent to our usual announcements > and release channels: > > https://www.debian.org/News/2015/20150204
Thank you Christian, and thanks to Debian. I value that greatly. So do the other family members who know about Debian.
> I hope you can cope with everything that come up in such moments, that > you and your family have deep support from friends and > relatives....and I wish again to express to you all my full support.
You're very kind.
We held a ceremony for Clytie yesterday - family and close friends, on a quiet part of the Murray River. Many of the testimonies you forwarded were read to the group: yours was. Afterwards we left her ashes under a small tree at the water's edge.
Best wishes. Pete -- Peter Siddall Riverland Web & Email Services

This was the certificate I received after passing the amateur radio exam. They gave me the callsign VK3TQR.

Daniel Pocock, amateur radio

 

This is the photo I published in an earlier blog, it is one of the check points with an amateur radio presence at the canoe marathon. Clytie's remains were left at a place much like this where I started doing voluntary work myself.

WICEN, Southern 80, Murray River Canoe Marathon, Victoria

 

Here we can see the same date on our wedding rings and on Adrian von Bidder's grave.

Grave of Adrian von Bidder

 

Debian.

Please see the chronological history of how the Debian harassment and abuse culture evolved.

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