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neighborleeI just thought it was interesting ( though thread closed yes in 2/2008) , that this polll indicates that more ubuntu users want mono gone than want to keep it..I hadn't realzed it had become that far removed from  a 50/50 split....but I suppose its still going to be there unless intrepid has changed something I am not aware of...I guess http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/mono-runtime < shows mono is still to be left in and that 'oSep 26 01:40
neighborleepen source' is still being applied as if it were the truth o_0Sep 26 01:40
neighborleehttps://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+so... < and here it seems.,'directhex' is saying though mono releases are slightly...unready..releases that need a HUGE # of patches, mono remains inside ubuntu..I wonder who is doing all these patches considering ubuntu makes very few upstream commits to other mainstream linux projects...Sep 26 01:41
neighborleeinterestingSep 26 01:41
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tessierhttp://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/2...Sep 26 04:15
tessierYou seen that one yet?Sep 26 04:15
neighborleehm imagine that ;)Sep 26 04:25
neighborleeunclear docs err patent agreements...well we can trust they will do the right thing soon </sarcasm>hah...nice find ;)Sep 26 04:26
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benJImanShane's back :oSep 26 06:46
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MinceRj0Sep 26 09:02
schestowitzI'm off for a few days. I'll be back some time next week.Sep 26 09:56
kentma1hi Roy - have a good trip!Sep 26 10:40
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trmancohttp://www.linuxinsider.com/rsstory/64627.htmlSep 26 14:59
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_DougAcacia patents time division multiplexing ..Sep 26 15:27
_Doughttp://ipcommunications.tmcnet.com/topics/ent...Sep 26 15:27
kentma1that's absurd - this is already standardised anywaySep 26 15:28
_DougAcacia patents remote control of printers ..Sep 26 15:29
_Doughttp://www.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/?n...Sep 26 15:29
_DougInfoglide patents aggregating search engine results with databases ..Sep 26 15:30
_Doughttp://www.prweb.com/releases/2008/9/prweb1311814.htmSep 26 15:30
_DougIP Technology Services patent online search and comparison ..Sep 26 15:36
_Doughttp://www.marketwatch.com/news/sto...Sep 26 15:36
_DougI hereby patent moving bits around ..Sep 26 15:42
_Doug"Microsoft becomes high priest of secure software development"Sep 26 15:42
_Dougsays article ..Sep 26 15:42
_Doughttp://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-10042248-83.htmlSep 26 15:42
_DougBallmer on search: we have to redefine the category .. "You don't really brute force your way into any market,"Sep 26 15:44
_Doughttp://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-10051743-56.htmlSep 26 15:44
kentma1it's all a total and complete messSep 26 15:48
_DougNovell releases compliance-management platform ..Sep 26 15:53
_Doughttp://cr-bo-news.blogspot.com/2008/09/novell-re...Sep 26 15:53
_DougWill it be as compliant as T-Max ?Sep 26 15:54
_Doughttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2007...Sep 26 15:58
_Dougback later .... ZNOOZE ...Sep 26 16:01
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trmancohttp://lifehacker.com/5055282/evolution-b...Sep 26 17:41
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trmancohttp://www.gnu.org/philosophy/compromise.htmlSep 26 19:46
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trmancohttp://www.computerworld.com/action/a...Sep 26 22:13
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ReverseGTRwhos gonna be Uhmericas next presadent?Sep 27 03:38
ReverseGTRoops I meant prezadentSep 27 03:39
ReverseGTRbut seriously, who here has watched the debates?Sep 27 03:39
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TallkenhiSep 27 09:35
Tallkencya :)Sep 27 09:39
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MinceRgeekingsSep 27 13:55
MinceRhttp://entertainment.slashdot.org/artic...Sep 27 14:38
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_Doug?Sep 27 15:22
_DougDarl to earth ..Sep 27 15:23
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Tallkenhi thereSep 27 23:56
ZiggyFishheySep 27 23:56
Tallkenhey, one person alive!Sep 27 23:56
Tallkenyou new here?Sep 27 23:57
ZiggyFishnope, you?Sep 27 23:57
Tallkendon't remember your nick lolSep 27 23:57
Tallkenbeen a few days since I've been hereSep 27 23:58
Tallkenbut not newSep 27 23:58
ZiggyFishyeah, sameSep 27 23:58
Tallkenanyway, thought the new author in the blog would be here as wekkSep 28 00:08
Tallkenseems I was wrongSep 28 00:08
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Tallkencya laterSep 28 00:31
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trmancohttp://efytimes.com/efytimes/fullnewsx...Sep 28 11:20
trmancohttp://www.itwire.com/content/view/20861/1141/ ->100 reasons Linux beats WindowsSep 28 11:24
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MinceRhow can a novell employee be a "respected linux hacker"?Sep 28 11:34
MinceRperhaps "formerly respected"Sep 28 11:35
_Dougwho ?Sep 28 11:44
_DougGreg Kroah-Hartman ?Sep 28 11:45
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trmancoyesSep 28 11:53
trmancohttp://efytimes.com/efytimes/fullnewsxml.asp?edid=29165Sep 28 11:53
_Doug"Think you're secure because you passed your Payment Card Industry Data Security Standard (PCI DSS) annual assessment?"Sep 28 12:15
_Doug"Download this insightful white paper, presented by VeriSign and Computerworld, to help you choose the right QSA for your needs"Sep 28 12:15
_DougJust because you passed the PCI DSS don't mean anything in terms of security ..Sep 28 12:15
_DougIt's just a bunch of forms :)Sep 28 12:15
_DougDownload Portable Ubuntu ..Sep 28 12:20
_Doughttp://yatsite.blogspot.com/2008/09/ru...Sep 28 12:20
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twitterSweaty B smiles on Portable Ubuntu and other captured GNU/Linux - he thinks M$ has outsmarted free software that way.Sep 28 15:19
twitterLive CDs are better.  Windows people are used to rebooting all the time anyway.Sep 28 15:20
twitterSooner or later, M$ breaks everything on their platform.Sep 28 15:22
MinceRhow exactly does that count as outsmarting?Sep 28 15:27
twitterHis idea was to make all free software run well on Windows so that no one needs GNU/Linux.Sep 28 15:36
twitterIt puts free software under the M$ tax and control.Sep 28 15:37
twitterIf what the article says about flash not running well, performance sucks too.Sep 28 15:38
twitterThere's also the waste of developer time and mind share.  Every developer that spends time Windows porting is a developer that is spending time supporting the Windows monopoly.Sep 28 15:39
twitterA better solution is to run the one or two Windoze applications you might actually need under Wine.  That way you get as much freedom and performance as you can.Sep 28 15:41
twitterSweaty Ballmer would love for everyone to think GNU/Linux is a poorly performing toy that you don't really need.Sep 28 15:44
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MinceRSweatyB's forgetting that once people realize that they're running all their apps on linux they don't need windows anymoreSep 28 16:26
_DougVenezuela Purchases a Million Intel Classmates ..Sep 28 17:03
_Doughttp://mobile.slashdot.org/a...Sep 28 17:03
_DougNotice all the native português beating up on the project .. :)Sep 28 17:04
_Doug"As a Portuguese, I'm ashamed"Sep 28 17:04
_Doug"As a Portuguese .. these Magellan computers .. are nothing but a huge scam"Sep 28 17:05
_Doug"I'm from Portugal and all over the media you hear everyday everywhere"Sep 28 17:06
_Doug"his [Chavez] socialist stance probably has something to do with his choosing an open source OS"Sep 28 17:07
_Doug"It's strange how Linux gets easily picked up by leftists"Sep 28 17:08
_DougIt's odd that all these native português can't read their own language :)Sep 28 17:10
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trmanco_Doug, no sign on Linux on those classmatesSep 28 17:39
trmanconobody mentions LinuxSep 28 17:39
trmancoeven tho it comes installedSep 28 17:39
trmancohttp://www.fnac.pt/pt/Catalog/Detail.as...Sep 28 17:44
trmancothey don't mention LinuxSep 28 17:44
MinceR/. says Venezuela ordered them with linuxSep 28 17:49
MinceRhttp://mobile.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=0...Sep 28 17:49
_Doughttp://ciberia.aeiou.pt/?st=10098Sep 28 17:50
_Doughttp://www.eescolinha.gov.pt/equipamento.htmlSep 28 17:51
_Douga variation of Mandriva ?Sep 28 17:51
_Dougtime to go ..Sep 28 17:55
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trmancoyes it is a variation of mandrivaSep 28 17:56
trmancoI thinkSep 28 17:56
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PetoKrausrightSep 29 07:59
PetoKrausso after a weekSep 29 07:59
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_Doug_"The Microsoft Corporation has formed an alliance with the USAID to provide the Ministry of Education with critical information and communication tools to help it gather more broad and accurate data in the education sector, to facilitate easy policy formulation and implementation."Sep 29 14:02
_Doug_"Through global philanthropic efforts, Microsoft has for the last several years been investing vast amounts of money in bringing computer power to the less privileged parts of the world, believing that access to vital ICT tools can unlock immense, transformative potential in societies."Sep 29 14:02
_Doug_http://www.monitor.co.ug/artman/publish/b...Sep 29 14:03
twitterM$ policy formation, "buy our software and do as we say," what could be hard about that?Sep 29 14:24
twitterOh yeah, keeping people from projects like OLPC, that's hard.Sep 29 14:24
twitterThere's no charity in M$.Sep 29 14:25
_Doug_What exactly is this USAID deal supposed to do. I mean they have their own education sector with their own IT expertise.Sep 29 14:27
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PetoKraushehe, finally a good customer serviceSep 29 14:53
PetoKrausi sent my koss ksc9 for repair - they've got unlimited warranty, you just pay for shippingSep 29 14:53
PetoKrausso, for €£3.50 i got brand new headphones worth €£11.50Sep 29 14:53
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zoobabRoy is back?Sep 29 16:20
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brunomiguelhelloSep 29 17:34
brunomiguelSteve 'ogre' ballmer is in Portugal. A sad day to my country: http://translate.google.pt/translate...Sep 29 17:35
brunomigueltrmanco: viva :)Sep 29 17:44
trmancoelahSep 29 17:45
trmancoo schestowitz está away a uns valentes diasSep 29 17:45
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_DougMicrosoft sues over 'scareware' pop-up ads ..Sep 29 18:18
_Doughttp://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_...Sep 29 18:18
_Doug"To protect themselves against these and other threats, computer users should keep their operating system, antivirus, firewall and antispyware software updated, Microsoft said"Sep 29 18:18
_Doug"Open source is not an easy solution"Sep 29 18:23
_Doughttp://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_...Sep 29 18:23
_Doug"I'm obviously a big fan of open source, and believe it offers an exceptional way to distribute and develop software, but there's not One Way to use open source"Sep 29 18:23
_Doug"Matt Asay has been involved with open source since 1998 .. Prior to Alfresco, Asay co-founded Novell€®'s Linux Business Office in 2002"Sep 29 18:26
_Doughttp://www.alfresco.com/about/people/all/Sep 29 18:26
_DougRob Enderle :: Open Source does not assure quality ..Sep 29 18:31
_Doughttp://www.itbusinessedge.com/blogs...Sep 29 18:31
_Doug"The result of the column was that I received threats on my job and even my life"Sep 29 18:32
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_Doug"I just got off a flight to Germany where the entertainment system was crashing every other hour and watched folks blame the crashes on Windows, even though the actual platform was Red Hat Linux"Sep 29 18:33
_DougWould anyone care to email Rob and get some coroberating evidence ?Sep 29 18:33
_DougSteal_Everything: steal what exactly ?Sep 29 18:37
_Dougping 'Steal_Everything' ...............................................Sep 29 18:40
_Doug"Wall Street firms increasingly are buying into Linux"Sep 29 18:41
_Doughttp://www.cio.com/article/396163/Wall_Str...Sep 29 18:41
_DougSteal_Everything: steal what exactly ??Sep 29 18:43
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_DougAVRS2: do you want to steal everything too :)Sep 29 18:45
AVRS2Sorry, I've got disconnected from the Microsoft VPN.Sep 29 18:47
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_DougI ask in relation to the user name 'Steal_Everything'Sep 29 18:48
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_Doug Steal_Everything: steal what exactly ??Sep 29 18:48
_DougNewbies and Linux Distros ..Sep 29 18:49
_Doughttp://itmanagement.earthweb.com/osrc/article.php/37...Sep 29 18:49
AVRSAh, is "AVRS" similar to "Everything"?Sep 29 18:49
AVRSOr just because I've just rejoined?Sep 29 18:49
_DougNo, I am curious as to the reason for such an alias, is he imnplying that we all steal ?Sep 29 18:50
_DougimplyingSep 29 18:50
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_Dougpeoples choice of nicks are always interesting ..Sep 29 18:51
_Doug"has the penguin got the power?"Sep 29 18:51
_Doughttp://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-te...Sep 29 18:51
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tessier_Hello allSep 29 18:52
_DougThis from the Independent life-style section ..Sep 29 18:52
AVRSI have once seen a user on Wikipedia with "This user supports free software" (in Russian, so it doesn't linguistically equal to freeware!) and "This user uses MSIE", Windows, MSN etc crap userboxes… it turned out that he thought it was about freewares.Sep 29 18:52
tessier_I'm writing something for a friend about Microsoft's sins in the OOXML debacle.Sep 29 18:52
_DougHi there tessier ..Sep 29 18:53
tessier_Anyone have a good reference for how Microsoft prevented the ODF people from entering the room at one point?Sep 29 18:53
tessier_I think they may have paid people to fill up the room or something like that, I don't recall.Sep 29 18:53
tessier_I just know there were shenanigans to keep the ODF people from making the meeting.Sep 29 18:53
_Dougbye .. gotta go steal something ;)Sep 29 18:57
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tessier_And I could swear that just in the last day or two I saw an article about how MS refuses to document its stuff...Sep 29 19:04
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MinceRgnSep 29 23:17


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