Bonum Certa Men Certa

IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: November 19th, 2008 - Part 2

Enter the IRC channel now







twitterYou are welcome.  It's a shame these things are not public knowledge.Nov 19 19:21
schestowitzYou disrupt revisionism.Nov 19 19:21
twitterThe author of the above history found the facts but failed to put 2 and 2 together.Nov 19 19:21
schestowitzThe story goes like this... "Gates was a poor kid who brought computers to the masses and then started saving babies in Africa"Nov 19 19:22
twitterIt is also interesting to note that one of Gates' first projects involved automobile traffic monitoring.Nov 19 19:22
twittertruth disrupts bullshit.Nov 19 19:23
schestowitzMotto.sigNov 19 19:23
schestowitzNew video.. netware junk: http://uk.youtube.com/watc...Nov 19 19:23
schestowitzWow. Amarok just crash. First time since I set up this PC in July, I think.Nov 19 19:27
schestowitz*crashedNov 19 19:27
twitterwow, I've never seen that happen.Nov 19 19:27
twitterlocal files or stream?Nov 19 19:27
schestowitzLocal.Nov 19 19:28
schestowitzI didn't even notice it cause it was on another desktop. DIdn't respond to global shortcuts, so I went there to check.Nov 19 19:28
schestowitzWhoaNov 19 19:29
schestowitzThe company from the CS department over here is to be acquired by IBM, probablyNov 19 19:29
schestowitzhttp://www.marketwatch.com/news/st... (IBM Announces Plans to Acquire Transitive)Nov 19 19:30
schestowitzFor failurelog? Firms charge employees for Vista boot-up times < http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/ne... >Nov 19 19:34
twitterHmmm, I think I added that already.  Let me check.Nov 19 19:36
_dougot: Understanding the Financial Crisis http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=gF6LbFDjvW0Nov 19 19:38
_dougot: The Mortgage Banking Meltdown http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=HSjEyOp2dEMNov 19 19:38
_dougVista boot times .. haaaa ....Nov 19 19:40
schestowitzVista 7 WIll Fix Everything (R). It only takes 7 more seconds.Nov 19 19:40
_dougI usually switch on and go for a stroll, by the time I get back something might be happening on screen :)Nov 19 19:41
schestowitzGood comment here from a BN reader: http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/m...Nov 19 19:43
schestowitzEruaran: ""Moonlight" is not Free Software, its not Silverlight and it is an insult to the idea and principles of Open Source. It is a patent trap that is only "licenced" to be available through Novell (Microsoft sock puppet) and run on Microsoft approved Novell Ballnux (Ballmers patent infected and compromised Linux) as part of Microsoft's protection racket."Nov 19 19:43
_dougMS anti-virus will be "architected for a smaller footprint that will use fewer computing resources, making it ideal for low-bandwidth scenarios or less powerful PCs"Nov 19 19:44
_doughttp://www.microsoft.com/Presspass/pres...Nov 19 19:44
_dougWhat does this mean ?Nov 19 19:44
_doug'low-bandwidth scenarios', what has bandwidth got to do with doing a pattern match on a local file ?Nov 19 19:45
_doug'Built on Microsoft’s award-winning malware protection engine, "Morro" will'Nov 19 19:46
twitterthat's about keeping the useless database of matches up to date.Nov 19 19:46
_dougWasn't there a test of AV software a while back .. Onecare came out last ?Nov 19 19:47
schestowitzAward-winning?Nov 19 19:47
schestowitzGoshNov 19 19:47
MinceRit will update tomorro.Nov 19 19:47
MinceR;)Nov 19 19:47
schestowitzThe 'masses' will fall for it.Nov 19 19:47
twitterI don't think so.  They have yet to be fooled by Vista.Nov 19 19:47
schestowitz_doug: OneCare is indeed one of the worstNov 19 19:47
schestowitzIt also nuked people's mailboxes of PCsNov 19 19:47
schestowitzit's one of the worst products they have.Nov 19 19:47
_doug"When used in conjunction with the ongoing security and privacy enhancements of Windows and Internet Explorer"Nov 19 19:48
schestowitz Judge Dismisses Psystar Antitrust Suit Against Apple < http://www.informationweek.com/news/hard... >Nov 19 19:48
_dougtranslation: only core Windows components and Iexolorer need Morro ...Nov 19 19:48
schestowitzSo they can carry on bundling.Nov 19 19:48
schestowitzHardware+softwareNov 19 19:49
schestowitzWill Morro[n] work with other browsers?Nov 19 19:49
*jose (n=jose@adsl-233-126-127.mia.bellsouth.net) has joined #boycottnovellNov 19 19:49
schestowitzAs in "third piraties [sic]' apps?Nov 19 19:49
MinceRarrrrrrrrr!Nov 19 19:50
twittersomething cool from Debian.  http://screenshots.debian.net/Nov 19 19:51
_dougIf Iexplorer operates in a sandbox, then why does it need AV protection ?Nov 19 19:51
MinceRbecause it's a microsoft sandboxNov 19 19:52
twitterha haNov 19 19:53
twittermight be contained if run in Wine.Nov 19 19:53
schestowitzHmmmmmmmmmmm.....Nov 19 20:02
schestowitzHere's something odd...Nov 19 20:03
schestowitzYesterday there was an article called "The Microsoft-Novell Linux deal two years later".Nov 19 20:03
schestowitzIt was very damaging to Microsoft and Novell.Nov 19 20:03
schestowitzSo this morning they release the press release "Microsoft and Novell Mark Two Years of Interoperability Progress". Similar headlines. Coincidence? Attempt to disguise something?Nov 19 20:03
schestowitzWhat do you think? http://www.foxbusiness.com/story/ma... vs http://www.computerworld.com/action/articl...Nov 19 20:04
joseit will be interesting to see if someone with microsoft ties takes over yahoo from yang. if yhoo drops enough, it might not get officially bought by msft but it might effectively get owned by them+supporters..Nov 19 20:08
josea similar argument might apply to google or to others though i find the ms possibility more distasteful but also more interestingNov 19 20:09
twitterMissed them both, but yes, M$ intentionally makes articles with confusing names.  Vista Failure Log was once the 7th result for Vista Failure.  Now it's impossible to find without log.Nov 19 20:10
twitterFunny thing is that they had to do a lot of talking about Vista Failure to do that.  Most of the search results now are of the "It's not a failure" kind.Nov 19 20:11
schestowitzPuppet regime? Will a Microsoft veteran become Yahoo CEO? < http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/micro... >Nov 19 20:12
schestowitzjose: it's likely that they'll control Yahoo! by proxytNov 19 20:12
schestowitzThey already pushed their cronies into YahooNov 19 20:12
schestowitzSeveral key execs, Icahn etxNov 19 20:12
josea minority.. we'll seeNov 19 20:12
schestowitzAnd in this lawful state they might get away with it.Nov 19 20:13
schestowitzThere's lot of good GNU/Linux news today..Nov 19 20:13
josejust looked at the ms exec suggested for yhoo ceo article.. disgustingNov 19 20:14
schestowitzWho suggested them though?Nov 19 20:17
schestowitzThis is a Microsoft blog.. it's biasedNov 19 20:17
schestowitzWhat sickens me more is rewriting of history where Microsoft might try to describe a takeover as Microsoft "doing a favour" to Yahoo or saving them rather than breaking the law to destroy the company, which is the truth (they even did AstroTurfing)Nov 19 20:18
schestowitzIDG is playing dirty.Nov 19 20:21
schestowitzIt spread the same article all over its many domains but changes the headlines each time in order to gain SEPRPsNov 19 20:21
schestowitzWait. ZDNet is now doing the exact same thing, which is rare. It's about GroupWise 8 being released.Nov 19 20:22
_dougnew Mac 'trojan' discovered .. http://www.theregister.co.uk/200...Nov 19 20:24
_doug"The malware typically disguises itself as video codec on dodgy websites."Nov 19 20:25
_dougSo it isn't a trojan, a worm or a virus ..Nov 19 20:25
*_doug has quit ()Nov 19 20:26
trmancoschestowitz, where you a Wordpress hacker?Nov 19 20:27
trmancowere*Nov 19 20:27
schestowitztrmanco: yes, still am.Nov 19 20:28
trmancoI just found an email of yoursNov 19 20:28
trmancofrom the year 2004Nov 19 20:28
trmancocoolNov 19 20:28
schestowitzYes, I was there in the earlier days.Nov 19 20:28
schestowitzWordPress has become a company since then.. Automattic.Nov 19 20:28
trmancocoolNov 19 20:29
trmancoyou were also using suSe those days :-PNov 19 20:29
*_doug (n=configna@unaffiliated/confignak) has joined #boycottnovellNov 19 20:30
schestowitztrmanco: yes, until 2006Nov 19 20:30
schestowitzAlthough I waited for the 'cycle' to end before trashing the thing. It's a shame really because I lobbied the CS Department for SUSE back in 2004.Nov 19 20:31
schestowitzThey went with Fedora despite many of us who advocated SUSE (SuSE at the time)Nov 19 20:31
twitterGood for themNov 19 20:31
joseprescientNov 19 20:32
_dougback again ..Nov 19 20:32
schestowitzhttp://www.linuxtoday.com/news_sto... "openSuSE-11.1-beta4 was released c. 31st October "Nov 19 20:32
twitterM$FT $18.75 just one penny above 52 week low.Nov 19 20:33
_doug"The Trojan then opens a command shell, which allows a user to select an application and a port number. The chosen application can then be used as a back door, which allows a remote attacker to gain access to the compromised computer. The Trojan copies the executable file for the chosen application to the following location:"Nov 19 20:33
schestowitzI see a pattern in the news (still fallen WAY behind): Linux picked up by the big companies (lots more today), Microsoft just manipulating... Yahoo, bloggers for Vista 7 vapourware, etc.Nov 19 20:33
_dougtechnically speaking. how is this not a trojan ?Nov 19 20:34
_doughttp://www.malwarehelp.org/osxla...Nov 19 20:34
schestowitzIt's tiresome when bloggers keep mentioning this vapourware that won't out until 2010 and the earliest and be just another Vista.Nov 19 20:34
twitterWorking on links to big company GNU/Linux adoption?Nov 19 20:34
schestowitzThey mention is very often so that CIOs feel like it's already here and wait [well, for nothing really]Nov 19 20:34
twitterWintel people don't know what else to talk about, they are under "mind control"Nov 19 20:35
schestowitztwitter: Fujitsu, IBM, Cisco, Moto..Nov 19 20:35
schestowitzLots of press releases today...Nov 19 20:35
twitterding, new low for M$.  18.73 and going down.Nov 19 20:35
twitteroops, it was 18.70Nov 19 20:36
schestowitzA site called American Chronicle should be banned from Google for spamming Google News for ages. It promotes some software repetitively.. http://www.americanchronicle.com/...Nov 19 20:36
schestowitzSys-con too has been spamming Google News like HELL.Nov 19 20:36
schestowitzLots of keyword stuffing (total nonesense, no content) comes in... in large numbers.Nov 19 20:36
schestowitzPJ told me to report them to Google and have them banned from the feed, but who does one report abuse to?Nov 19 20:37
twitterThey can't have pesky publications like Slashdot and BN show up in the results, now can they?Nov 19 20:37
schestowitzNo.Nov 19 20:37
schestowitzWell, /. is there. I see the BN stuff in Google News... but the India BN under /. only.Nov 19 20:37
twitterSlashdot was showing up in tech feeds for a whileNov 19 20:37
schestowitzAlso covered in InfoWorld where my name and site are mentioned.Nov 19 20:38
twitterMust be why they kicked up the spam effort and conferences.Nov 19 20:38
schestowitzTraffic is BN is higher than usual.Nov 19 20:38
schestowitztwitter: /. just doesn't cover much FOSS anymore.Nov 19 20:38
schestowitzIt's in it for the money. Freedom doesn't pay bills, not necessarily anyway.Nov 19 20:38
_doug.Nov 19 20:39
_dougslashdot got showed the money, just take a look at the adverts ..Nov 19 20:39
twitter"Mind control" M$ stuffs the firehose.  FOSS news slips by.  BN picks up way more than /. can.Nov 19 20:39
schestowitzMerely every post from Zonker makes the feed due to his disclosure: http://blogs.zdnet.com/community...Nov 19 20:39
schestowitzSlashdot is sponsored by Microsoft.Nov 19 20:40
schestowitzTrue.Nov 19 20:40
schestowitzSourceForge has them as a sponsor. $Nov 19 20:40
twitter$ 18.50Nov 19 20:41
schestowitzGood comment: http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?...Nov 19 20:41
schestowitztwitter: back in 2006...Nov 19 20:41
schestowitzScoble left (maybe it was 2005, I think)Nov 19 20:41
schestowitzYou know what he said when he left?Nov 19 20:41
schestowitzMSFT is on a freefall. It was nearly below $20 ($22+ IIRC) and THEN.... MASSIVE buybacks beganNov 19 20:42
schestowitz2 years later and the company lost like $40bn of its money. I could remember this wrong..Nov 19 20:42
schestowitzThe comment above states: "Nov 19 20:42
schestowitzWith still enormous cash reserves, Microsoft will likely survive this sharp economic downturn as a corporation, but if the economy drops into depression, Microsoft is much less likely to emerge afterwards with its monopoly position intact."Nov 19 20:42
twitter" shouldn’t we be expecting a “Golden Age” for open source, with all the idle programmers and IT folks at home with time on their hands? "Nov 19 20:43
schestowitzWhich I disagree with because Microsoft too is already looking to LOAN moneyNov 19 20:43
schestowitzBut it has people under mind controlNov 19 20:43
schestowitzIt hypnotises people.Nov 19 20:43
twitterNo, we should not.  Free software gets written because people have time and need.  Unemployed people are discouraged and start to lose critical work skills.Nov 19 20:44
schestowitzGoogle BN for 'hypnosis'. I wrote about this because people told me stories about Microsoft's masterful use of the press to hypnotise people.... having them tell of those who deny Microsoft as omnipotent.Nov 19 20:44
twitterThose are the skills that makes free software useful at the application level.  Unemployment for free software developers is a bad thing.Nov 19 20:44
_dougslashdot.advert: Windows sysadmins with a clue use Rsync.netNov 19 20:45
twitterM$ is anything but masterful and omnipotent today.Nov 19 20:45
_dougC:\> rsyncNov 19 20:45
twitterrsync.net?  wtf?Nov 19 20:45
twitterwhy not rsync or grsync?Nov 19 20:45
_dougsee the site .. http://www.rsync.net/products...Nov 19 20:47
_doug"Standard Offsite Filesystem - $1.20 / GB per month"Nov 19 20:47
twitterSounds kind of expensive.Nov 19 20:48
_dougthe Offsite nature of the service sounds good ...Nov 19 20:48
_douggtg ..Nov 19 20:48
*_doug has quit ()Nov 19 20:48
twittermost host services offer rsync and offer better rates than that.Nov 19 20:49
twitter$ 18.32Nov 19 20:51
twitterI almost feel sorry for them.Nov 19 20:51
twitterbut I don'tNov 19 20:51
schestowitzYay!Nov 19 20:51
schestowitzMy KDE bug is finally being resolved.Nov 19 20:51
schestowitzTook them a month to pick up my reportNov 19 20:51
schestowitzhttp://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cg...Nov 19 20:52
schestowitz$17.xx by day's  end? Quick. I'll get a screenieNov 19 20:52
schestowitz$ 18.32 today's low? Can you confirm?Nov 19 20:53
schestowitzWow. 18.25 DownNov 19 20:53
schestowitzReal time.Nov 19 20:53
joseschestowitz, i'm catching up on this irc chat so give me a minute but "It's tiresome when bloggers keep mentioning this vapourware that won't out until 2010"...Nov 19 20:56
schestowitzWow.Nov 19 20:56
schestowitzNovell at 3.80Nov 19 20:56
schestowitzDown 10%Nov 19 20:56
joseis a way to keep Microsoft in developer's mind (like you posted recently). You don't want people to forget about you, to have time to think about the options, to think you have taken a hit and won't come back, etcNov 19 20:57
schestowitzI'm doing a funny postNov 19 21:05
schestowitzHehe. http://boycottnovell.com/2008/11/1... Cheeky.Nov 19 21:06
twitterGoogle's got  18.27 as the 52 week low now.Nov 19 21:10
schestowitzhttp://computerworld.co.nz/news.nsf/ne... < Letter: Computerworld or Microsoftworld? >Nov 19 21:15
schestowitzFinally someone points out that they have been brainwashed.Nov 19 21:16
twitterHe concludes with, " You also really haven’t reported on the benefits that customers have got out of the Microsoft/Novell SUSE relationship."Nov 19 21:18
twitterIt's hard to report nothing.Nov 19 21:18
PetoKraus"Google Mail voice and video chat is not yet available for Linux. "Nov 19 21:18
PetoKrausdohNov 19 21:18
PetoKrausgoogle should seriously stop shitting on linux users.Nov 19 21:18
twitterNah, let them beta test on Windoze Guinea Pigs.  :)Nov 19 21:20
twitterthey are unimportant anyway.Nov 19 21:20
*neighborlee (n=neighbor@unaffiliated/neighborlee) has joined #boycottnovellNov 19 21:21
twitterIt would be easier for them to pick reasonable standards and work with a GNU/Linux distribution.Nov 19 21:21
twitterof upstream package like GNome or KDENov 19 21:21
twitterupstream would be best.Nov 19 21:21
josethat letter to computerworld is a pro-novell pieceNov 19 21:22
twitteryeah, noticed that.Nov 19 21:22
joseyeah, i noticed you noticedNov 19 21:23
neighborleelolNov 19 21:23
neighborlee:)hello btw-how goes it;0-Nov 19 21:23
jose:-)Nov 19 21:24
josehttp://ldn.linuxfoundation.org/blog-en...Nov 19 21:25
jose>> It was announced by MLB Advanced Media, major league baseball's online division, that video on MLB.com would no longer be delivered via Microsoft's Silverlight format but instead with Adobe Flash technology.Nov 19 21:25
josemicrosoft failed this time around because flash was just to big and silverlight just too smallNov 19 21:25
josedid they get their money's worth though?Nov 19 21:26
josetoo big not to bigNov 19 21:26
schestowitzjose: what's a standard?Nov 19 21:29
schestowitzPDF is a 'standard'. ISO is corruption.Nov 19 21:29
josei'm not sure what you are really asking meNov 19 21:29
schestowitzThanks to Microsoft we now know. And 'thanks' to the 'brokeness' of things, this ceased to mean anything.Nov 19 21:30
schestowitzGoogle keeps ignoring even Web standards.Nov 19 21:30
schestowitzThere should be laws against that.. just like accesibility laws that are used against govt. sites.Nov 19 21:30
josegoogle has every intention to maximize their shareholder wealth; they will use closed wherever they can get away with itNov 19 21:31
schestowitzThat doesn't matter.Nov 19 21:33
schestowitzThey need rules against that.Nov 19 21:33
schestowitzTaking rocks and throwing boulders at Microsoft's headquarters might be good for GOogle's shareholders too.Nov 19 21:34
schestowitz.. and yet... they can't do that. On the other hand, Microsoft can attack Yahoo! using AstroTurfers, corrupt politicians, ultimatums, so-called 'activist investors'... Nov 19 21:35
schestowitzThis is not competition. It's white-collar crime.Nov 19 21:35
twitterDow broke 8000... ouch.Nov 19 21:38
josethat's why transparency and opening calling out misbehavior is so importantNov 19 21:39
jose.. it's one of the few ways those that follow the law or are open etc..Nov 19 21:40
josecan even the playing fieldNov 19 21:40
josethe best marketing against deception is pointing out that deception.. i thinkNov 19 21:40
neighborleejose, sweet, thx for posting that..flash anyday over M$shaft ;))Nov 19 21:40
joseit was from linuxtodayNov 19 21:41
neighborleeahNov 19 21:41
joseby brian proffitt actuallyNov 19 21:41
schestowitztwitter: it was below that earlier.Nov 19 21:43
josethis one just on lt is a bit funny http://opendotdotdot.blogspot.com/2008/11/wh...Nov 19 21:44
schestowitzThere are always people who are drones. They say "this is business". Well, it shouldn't be.Nov 19 21:44
josetitle: Why Free Software is a Con-TrickNov 19 21:44
schestowitzRichard Stallman once said, "People said I should accept the world. Bullshit! I don't accept the world."Nov 19 21:44
trmancohttp://searchengineland.com/microsoft-...Nov 19 21:45
schestowitzFound this one by accident::Nov 19 21:49
schestowitzhttp://news.softpedia.com/news/Vi... "Nov 19 21:49
schestowitzAnd the conclusion is the same as the video: "Points Learned - Microsoft Sucks (Relearned). Microsoft Windows Vista Sucks (Relearned). Microsoft Windows Update should BE TURNED OFF from Automatic Updates (Not feasible or practicle, but I'd rather be hacked and whored than risk losing ALL MY FILES...Nov 19 21:49
schestowitz"again due to stupidity rather than devious ingenuity). RAID with Windows is trouble (sync a backup instead daily, or image weekly). And did I mention, Microsoft Sucks? Microsoft you owe me 14 hrs of my time," Echostormfury stated. "Nov 19 21:49
schestowitzI found this because I can't tell apart the Mariuses in Softpedia. IIRC, one hates Linux and one loves it.Nov 19 21:50
schestowitzMAFIAA takes over the Internet: http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2008/11/riaa-wins-... ( RIAA Wins, Campuses Lose as Tennessee Governor Signs Campus Network Filtering Law )Nov 19 21:55
trmancohttp://www.betanews.com/article/Novell_and_Micros...Nov 19 21:55
schestowitzApple Macs Are Defective by Design: http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/11/18/apple...Nov 19 21:56
schestowitzShame on Appel.Nov 19 21:56
schestowitztrmanco: only the 'Microsoft people' seem to be writing about MoonlightNov 19 21:58
schestowitzhttp://news.zdnet.co.uk/software/0... http://www.microsoft-watch.com/content/in... http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/microsoft/ar...Nov 19 21:58
schestowitzAll the Microsoft journalists promoting Microsoft DRM on the Web and neglect of Web standards.Nov 19 21:58
trmancoSilvylight poopNov 19 21:59
schestowitzTell people to avoid Macs as much as they avoid WindowsNov 19 21:59
schestowitzThe MAFIAA threatened these companies with a lawsuit about 3 years ago.Nov 19 21:59
schestowitzThey can claimed to have been forced into it. IBM too should be treated with suspicion. They should sidles with Freedom, not the copyrights MAFIAA that thinks it owns the Web (information)Nov 19 22:00
trmancoUnpaid time while Vista boots results in lawsuits: http://www.electronista.com/articles/08/...  *LOL*Nov 19 22:03
schestowitz*LOL* Novell/SCO can't spell... http://www.groklaw.net/comment...Nov 19 22:03
trmancoschestowitz, they must be using IENov 19 22:05
trmancoit doesn't have a built-in dictionaryNov 19 22:06
trmanco:pNov 19 22:06
josethe gentoo user thing bothers me.Nov 19 22:08
schestowitzTrolling from Dvorak:  Why Google Must Die < http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,... >Nov 19 22:09
schestowitztrmanco: Windows has no spellchecker. It's GNU/Linux (Ubuntu in your case) that has aspell/ispell Nov 19 22:09
schestowitzMicrosoft uses lack of spellchecker to sell Office.Nov 19 22:09
trmancono, I think it is myspell :-PNov 19 22:10
josehis recent complaints seem reasonable.Nov 19 22:10
schestowitzjose: what do you suggest that I do?Nov 19 22:10
joseif he has a point somewhere and i don't know address it.. did you go too far.. that's what i mean.. he sounds upsetNov 19 22:10
schestowitzjose: all his past comments are abuse against twitter and others. It's a trouble-maker and that's what his thing isNov 19 22:11
josei noticed one recent one, but i don't followNov 19 22:11
schestowitzjose: do you remember 'eet'?Nov 19 22:11
joselink to it then. that seems to be what he is askingNov 19 22:11
schestowitzHe's still around under different names.Nov 19 22:11
josemaybe a little i thinkNov 19 22:11
schestowitzHe totally loses his sometimes and he attacks the site using comments.Nov 19 22:11
josenot sure thoughNov 19 22:11
schestowitzUses zombies, vulgarities, libel, whatever.Nov 19 22:12
schestowitzAnd they get more angry when the site has them cornered (I never delete comments)Nov 19 22:12
josethere is no point in attacking "gentoo user" or anyone except on the spot when they say something.. or else link to past wrongsNov 19 22:12
joseif you only suspect, you should just make that clear. even consider apologizing for being uncertain if that is the case.Nov 19 22:13
schestowitzjose: First comment: "Not really relevant, but I noticed “twitter” from Slashdot is here. Anyone who is thinking of even listening to this person should read this: [URL]"Nov 19 22:13
joseotherwise attacks against twitter or anyone else end up provoking and giving them something to hold against youNov 19 22:13
schestowitz"Are you the same twitter from Slashdot?"Nov 19 22:14
schestowitzto twitter: "I guess you’re everybody here as well, right?"Nov 19 22:14
schestowitz"There’s a story on the /. front page right now about Twitter (the service), and half the posts there seem to be jokes about you. I’d take that as a warning sign if I were you…"Nov 19 22:14
schestowitzHe changes his colours now so that you don't see he's just there to harrass.Nov 19 22:14
schestowitzSame with eet.Nov 19 22:15
josewhich blog entry is thisNov 19 22:15
joseyou did put one out pointing him out specificallyNov 19 22:15
schestowitzAfter being flagged he tried to seem polite all of a sudden and then whined about the flags... after making comparisons to Nazis and such stuff... before he was flagged.Nov 19 22:15
schestowitzSee http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=...Nov 19 22:16
joseit has to be hard being in the line of fire as you are.. but i'm just saying that anytime you can manage to give the benefit of the doubt (or else link to specifics) would help your case and not distract from itNov 19 22:16
josehe even suggested that you look over his past postings to give evidenceNov 19 22:17
schestowitzThere's another stalker twitter. At least 2, but I've lost count. They both just attack messenger minutes after they comment.Nov 19 22:17
schestowitzjose: READERS asked me to delete his comment.Nov 19 22:17
schestowitzThey said it was off-topic attacks.Nov 19 22:17
schestowitzI don't delete comments, so I needed to do something.Nov 19 22:17
josethat's what i mean. if he is cooked he is cooked but otherwise don't give anyone unnecessary weaponsNov 19 22:17
jose.. i know it's tough being in the line of fire so much, btwNov 19 22:18
schestowitzNow, the issue that he only comments more when he's flagged is separate, but it always passesNov 19 22:18
schestowitzThe attacks are always bursty.Nov 19 22:18
schestowitzThere were also the days when OpenSUSE people did that.Nov 19 22:18
schestowitzAlexH was throwing a fit too at times. Endless complaints..Nov 19 22:18
schestowitzI risk annoying other people if I let his just attack othersNov 19 22:19
schestowitzeet actually drove people away.Nov 19 22:19
josei'm not questioning that.. but he says to show the proofNov 19 22:19
schestowitzSundayRefugee was attacked for 'daring' to leave comments in the site.Nov 19 22:19
schestowitzA case of reader attacks reader... I get lots of this in some sites where I no longer comment much.Nov 19 22:19
schestowitzDigg.com BTW was ruined by stalkers.Nov 19 22:20
josei would like to reply to him but don't know if i have anything to say. i don't follow the comments here unless something special stood out but i don't even read all blogs or commentsNov 19 22:20
josei saw the comment earlier about digg being ruined maybe we can resurrect it if the attackers have moved onNov 19 22:21
schestowitzThey always move somewhere else.Nov 19 22:22
schestowitzThey gravitate towards wherever the most damage can be made.Nov 19 22:22
schestowitzThey fumigate Slashdot, Digg, USENET until it's either not popular or the topic is changed to favour the Freedom opposers.Nov 19 22:23
schestowitzRMS caught up with: March of the dustbin Stasi: Half of councils use anti-terror laws to watch people putting rubbish out on the wrong day - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/a...Nov 19 22:29
twitterWow, Apple wants OSX to suck like Vista http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/11/...Nov 19 22:30
twitterM$ does not have enough people to ruin everything at the same time.Nov 19 22:31
MinceRwell, it might be an improvement for osxNov 19 22:32
schestowitzIBM tried TPM as well (TC?)Nov 19 22:32
schestowitzKeep IBM from the Linux desktop ;-) not just because of the not-so-open 'Open Desktop' (Lotus blobs)Nov 19 22:33
twitterYes, they put that into Thinkpads.  I'm not sure what free software does with it.Nov 19 22:33
MinceRalmost all manufacturer put it into their laptopsNov 19 22:33
schestowitzThere are companies like Novell and IBM out there that want to deform Linux until it's as expensive and close as OS X.Nov 19 22:33
MinceRat least business modelsNov 19 22:33
MinceRafaikNov 19 22:33
schestowitzAnd then they'll call it 'The Linux OS', for only $150 with OOXML, Mono, etc.Nov 19 22:34
schestowitzMixed source...Nov 19 22:34
schestowitz*closedNov 19 22:34
MinceRwhat is IBM trying to push into linux?Nov 19 22:34
schestowitzTrusted Computing, AFAIKNov 19 22:35
MinceRicNov 19 22:35
schestowitzTreacherous?Nov 19 22:35
MinceRtreacherous.Nov 19 22:35
twitterIBM has made good money in consulting.  More, I think, than selling software.Nov 19 22:35
MinceRand ibm is far from alone in that wayNov 19 22:35
schestowitzH-P too.Nov 19 22:35
schestowitzThey sell h/wNov 19 22:35
MinceRhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tru...Nov 19 22:35
twitterhardware sales are fair.Nov 19 22:35
schestowitzFair enough really.. software then becomes a commodity and door to services.Nov 19 22:36
MinceRstrangely crApple isn't listed there even though they were one of the first to include and use a TPMNov 19 22:36
schestowitzIt can be developer by peers as a set of 'hacks' (bug fixes and features)Nov 19 22:36
twitterIf you a Chrysler, getting IBM to help your migration makes sense.Nov 19 22:36
schestowitzBut most people cling on to the idea of selling 'licences' to binaries as though they are pieces of h/wNov 19 22:36
twitterThe practice is disturbing when it comes to medicine.Nov 19 22:37
schestowitzre: hardware sales, it's fair as long as there is NO price-fixing.Nov 19 22:37
schestowitzThere's lots of this going on and patents too play a role.Nov 19 22:37
schestowitzRather than  teaching one another how to make better chips people keep 'trade secrets' and precious IP (with lawsuits)Nov 19 22:38
twitterThe software is very expensive but it's only useful with a huge chunk of hardware.  You would think they would give the software away with hardware for the sake of sales and the patient!Nov 19 22:38
schestowitzSo we're left with superior products and 0.0001% of the populations being sickly rich.Nov 19 22:38
schestowitz /s/superior/inferiror/Nov 19 22:38
schestowitz*typoNov 19 22:38
schestowitzThe 'press' neglects to refer to this as a crime, which it is: http://vistasucks.wordpress.com/2008/11/18/mo... http://vistasucks.wordpress.com/2008/11/18/st...Nov 19 22:40
schestowitz"On Monday, Citigroup announced it would cut 52,000 jobs over the next few months in a dramatic cost-cutting move." < http://www.pcworld.com/article/154130/... >Nov 19 22:42
schestowitzIDG is boosting XAML again: Silverlight, for Real This Time < http://www.pcworld.com/article/154134/si... >. Microsoft must be running W-E around to prod journosNov 19 22:44
schestowitzMicrosoft INNOVA~1 subscribing to a computer: http://www.pcworld.com/article/154...Nov 19 22:45
schestowitzForget about owning a computer. Pay up for software, Microsoft still owns your physical computer.Nov 19 22:46
schestowitzPCWorld officially dead as a p-aper publication: http://www.pcworld.com/article/154...Nov 19 22:47
schestowitzFree labour for threat in *NUX??? "Beta testers required for Unix and Linux anti-virus" < http://www.prosecurityzone.com/Customisati... >Nov 19 22:55
schestowitzShouldn’t Obama use Linux, and not a Mac? < http://www.linux-foundation.org/weblogs/amanda/20... >Nov 19 23:14
MinceRah, shit coming out of google, as usualNov 19 23:15
joseif he did i think i hope he would recognize the potential. having a celebrity of that calibur on linux side would not be a bad idea.Nov 19 23:20
joseif used linuxNov 19 23:21
MinceRgnNov 19 23:26
PetoKrausright. How hard is it for someone to forge his IP for webpage?Nov 19 23:28
schestowitzMandriva's results: http://www.mandriva.com/enterprise/en/financ...Nov 19 23:29
PetoKrauslike, my ip is X.Y.W.Z; can someone easily pretend he's X.Y.W.Z as well?Nov 19 23:29
schestowitzOpen proxies.Nov 19 23:29
PetoKrauswell, that only conceals your IPNov 19 23:29
schestowitzThat's why filtering by IPs is pointless.Nov 19 23:29
schestowitzUnless the person you ban lives in a barn and uses AOL.Nov 19 23:29
PetoKrausit's not about banningNov 19 23:30
schestowitzWhat's it related to?Nov 19 23:30
PetoKrausi just wanna know how hard it is for someoneNov 19 23:30
PetoKrausto pretend he's someone elseNov 19 23:30
PetoKrausby forging HIS ip adressNov 19 23:30
PetoKrauslike, can i force my browser somehow to send your IP address to the server i am talking to instead of mine?Nov 19 23:30
schestowitzNo, not without network cr|hackingNov 19 23:32
PetoKrausyupNov 19 23:32
PetoKraustherefore, if i design my "digital signature" to be IP basedNov 19 23:33
PetoKrausif that guy doesn't use some open proxy, or use different networks, or is behind natNov 19 23:33
PetoKrausno one else will be able to have the same "digital signature" (if the hash is perfect and the other person is NOT on the same subnet)Nov 19 23:34
PetoKrausit's fun to design your own content management system from scratchNov 19 23:34
schestowitzYou can reuse a lot thoughNov 19 23:39
schestowitzSee DriggNov 19 23:39
PetoKrausit's more fun to... "invent" itNov 19 23:41
schestowitzMore room for error, as well.Nov 19 23:42
schestowitzWordPress was hacked b2Nov 19 23:42
PetoKrausschestowitz: yes, but IMO more fun ;)Nov 19 23:57
PetoKrausanyway, i hope you already have my rss feed in your reader :PNov 19 23:57
PetoKrausi am crying about the lack of HTML5Nov 19 23:58
schestowitzYes.Nov 19 23:58
schestowitzWhat's the topic?Nov 19 23:58
PetoKrausnah, i just posted a short video i madeNov 19 23:58
schestowitzTHML5? Fuh-get-aboutitNov 19 23:58
PetoKraus(http://pk.gjhak.sk/?uid=111)Nov 19 23:58
schestowitzAdobe and Microsoft have different plans.Nov 19 23:58
schestowitzLike XAML... Flex...Nov 19 23:58
PetoKrausand there's no way to embed videoNov 19 23:58
schestowitzIt's important to promote AjaxNov 19 23:59
PetoKrauswhile not using javascriptNov 19 23:59
schestowitzMicrosoft ignores SVG to stifle AjaxNov 19 23:59
schestowitzJust the type of c* you come to expect from a monopolist. Even timbl (father of the Web) complained about them, re: SVGNov 19 23:59
schestowitzPetoKraus: FF 3.1 will have ogg and <vodeo> out of the boxNov 19 23:59

Recent Techrights' Posts

The 'Other' Bruce... on Openwashing at OSI (and Not Bruce Perens, the OSI's Co-founder)
Openwashing people (connected to Microsoft) already do "open weights"
Gemini Links 10/11/2024: A Writer's Block, VIM Tips and Tricks
Links for the day
"Paperless Office" (Incompatible With the Law) as a Threat to Workers' Health at the EPO, Europe's Second-Largest Institution and Largest Patent Office
"Software Ergonomics need to be brought back to the agenda at a high level!"
 
Gemini Links 10/11/2024: Taking Jokes and Writing Dense Assembly
Links for the day
Links 10/11/2024: Meaning of Life and iPhone ‘Inactivity Reboot’
Links for the day
Links 10/11/2024: Microsoft Adds Surveillance to Notepad and Paint, TikTok Shutdown Order
Links for the day
Gemini Links 10/11/2024: Scrawlspace and California
Links for the day
Links 10/11/2024: Politics, Economics, and Ticketmaster Issues
Links for the day
Linux Foundation: We've Shut Down the Mailing Lists and Fired Everyone at Linux.com So We Can Spend Money Buying Puff Pieces and Paying Clickfraud/Spammers
deeply rogue
Over at Tux Machines...
GNU/Linux news for the past day
IRC Proceedings: Saturday, November 09, 2024
IRC logs for Saturday, November 09, 2024
[Meme] Linux Foundation Cuts
money is spent by the million on highly dubious things
Politics Becoming Way Too 'Toxic'
'Toxic' political discourse ought to be covered, but reducing the toxicity of coverage itself (e.g. inaccurately covering things to incite "the left" and "the right") is still challenging
Linux Foundation is Rebuilding the Berlin Wall (to Keep Russians Out of Linux)
So the Linux Foundation is basically acting a bit like oppressive Soviets
Linux Foundation is a Scam Like 'Crypto' (So is the Company of Jim Zemlin's Wife, Bakkt)
To us, the Linux Foundation is just a massive scam
Remembering and Respecting Fallen Ones by Avoiding or Stopping Wars (and Boycotting Companies That Want Wars)
The people who die tend to be the least privileged and connected
EPO is Blasting Its Own Foot (There Will be No EPO Left)
If the EPO carries on shooting its own foot, there will be nothing left of it
There's Always a Way to Improve
Self-improvement is a perpetual task
Joel Espy Klecker, unpaid, terminally ill youth labor & Debian knew it
Reprinted with permission from Daniel Pocock
List of Debian lies and deception
Reprinted with permission from Daniel Pocock
Links 09/11/2024: More Mass Layoffs and Concerns About Musk Working Like Trump Aide
Links for the day
Gemini Links 09/11/2024: Operating the Temple System and SeaweedFS
Links for the day
[Teaser] [Meme] Central Occupational Health, Safety and Ergonomics Committee (COHSEC) at European Patent Office (EPO)
These are not teenage gamers
Links 09/11/2024: Further Restrictions on Social Control Media, CASIO Cracked Again
Links for the day
Why Brown CIT Oughtn't Be Named After Thomas J. Watson (Like Many Faculties Ought Not be Named After Bill Gates)
In their own words
Reminder That Mass Layoffs Are Going on All Month This Month at IBM
The "silent" layoffs continue until the end of this month if not longer
[Meme] Just Blame Whoever Takes Advantage of Your Back Doors
The media will even sympathise with malicious and/or incompetent companies if they blame "Russia"
This Remembrance Sunday We Must Also Remember That Some 'Security Companies' Want More Cyberwar
Some companies profit from the cyberwar; hence, their objective is not to end the war
Non-Tech Enshittification: Post Office Perils and the Czech is in the Mail
We still hope that the parcel will be recovered (maybe at customs) or will be sent back some day
[Meme] Don't Try This at Home (But a Datacentre Might be OK)
Quit outsourcing to Social Control Media
There's No Free Lunch in Video Hosting
they say there's no free lunch; if you aren't paying for hosting and serving of "your" videos, you're not the customer and those videos, once uploaded, aren't quite yours anymore
Parroting Microsoft Talking Points About Computer Security
This past summer Richard M. Stallman (RMS) openly complained in a public event that the term "security" had come to mean all sorts of ridiculous things, including the very oppose of real security
Visits to OpenAI's Site Plunged by More Than 67% in the Past Half a Year Alone
'autocorrect on steroids' is mostly worthless
Pocock Running for Office Again
Pocock dealt with all sorts of 'politics' in Free software and, unlike many politicians, he has a background in science and technology
[Meme] Turning the EPO Into a Speculation Bank, Monetising It by Breaking the Law, Playing Real Estate (and Mortgage) Financial Games
travesty
Real Estate and Workplace Problems at the European Patent Office, Which Grants Fake Patents Under the Guise of "Law"
Report on the 54th meeting of the Munich LOHSEC of 20 June 2024
Over at Tux Machines...
GNU/Linux news for the past day
IRC Proceedings: Friday, November 08, 2024
IRC logs for Friday, November 08, 2024
Links 09/11/2024: Politics, Climate, and Why Physical Cash is Crucial
Links for the day
Gemini Links 09/11/2024: Minerals, Rants, and Maintaining Planetary Balance
Links for the day
Plagiarism by Bots: Guardian Digital, Inc (linuxsecurity.com) Still Creates Fake Articles About "Linux"
100% fake
[Teaser] [Meme] New Ways to Impoverish Patent Examiners (Entrusted to Block Unjust Monopolies or Monopoly Applications)
Coming tomorrow!
Apple Tax funds: railways, defective concrete blocks in Ireland's North and West
Reprinted with permission from Daniel Pocock
Daniel Pocock, Nomination for Ireland, Dublin Bay South, General Election 2024
Reprinted with permission from Daniel Pocock
Links 08/11/2024: TikTok Bans and Clownflare Issues/Perils
Links for the day
Gemini Links 08/11/2024: RPS, O.D.I.N., and RSS in Yahoo News
Links for the day
Donald Trump as Censor in Chief Can Now Leverage Censorship Companies and Fake Protection Disguised as 'Security'
Centralised CAs were trouble all along
Technology: rights or responsibilities? - Part VI
By Dr. Andy Farnell
A Death of a News Industry
A theme we explored thrice today
Deciphering Centralised CAs and Why Their Demise Should be a Goal
Encryption in transmission is good; but who controls the key exchange and certification/authentication/validation?
Links 08/11/2024: Strikes, Recessions, and Slowdowns
Links for the day
"Many Applications Labelled as "Cybersecurity" and Given a Veneer of Legitimacy Are Really "Weaponised" and Abusive Code"
New from Dr. Andy Farnell
[Teaster] [Meme] New Ways of Wrecking (NWoW)
The EPO
Gateway for News and Blogs
In the long run, this site and its sister site (less overlap between them now) should hopefully become a popular destination for people who look for information, not chaff
Going Even Faster
We hope the site will be faster soon
Psychopaths Who Reaffirm Our Work's Value
Psychopaths and sociopaths lack empathy, so they're willing to go very far and stoop as low as they deem necessary
[Meme] How Low Can You Go at the European Patent Office?
Not just in terms of patent quality
More Cuts/End to Benefits for EPO Workers (Europe's Working Conditions Incompatible With the European Patent Convention)
"The Office is now reviving it but plans to introduce new cuts on benefits"
Over at Tux Machines...
GNU/Linux news for the past day
IRC Proceedings: Thursday, November 07, 2024
IRC logs for Thursday, November 07, 2024
Security Advisory: Debian falls for social engineering hacks
Reprinted with permission from Daniel Pocock
Gemini Links 08/11/2024: US Election, RetroChallenge 2024, and More
Links for the day