Bonum Certa Men Certa

Cablegate: Caterpillar Official Cites Bill Gates to Justify Colluding With Oppressors

“Gates has created a huge blood-buying operation that only cares about money, not about people.”

--AIDS organisation manager in China



Cablegate



Summary: The Chinese government's denial or misuse of human rights gets defended by Caterpillar (notorious for human rights and workers' rights abuses), whose representative cites Bill Gates

IN THE FOLLOWING Cablegate cable, Caterpillar's Xiao is said to think that 'Google approached the problem [with the Chinese government] incorrectly, citing Bill Gates' position that companies must "follow the laws of the country in which they operate."'



Some people still think of Gates, a convicted monopolist, as some kind of a moral symbol. See what Microsoft does in Hong Kong based on Cablegate.








VZCZCXRO1384 OO RUEHCN RUEHGH DE RUEHBJ #0247/01 0291210 ZNY CCCCC ZZH O 291210Z JAN 10 FM AMEMBASSY BEIJING TO RUEHC/SECSTATE WASHDC IMMEDIATE 7843 INFO RUEHOO/CHINA POSTS COLLECTIVE IMMEDIATE RUEHLO/AMEMBASSY LONDON IMMEDIATE 3671 RHMFISS/DEPT OF HOMELAND SECURITY WASHINGTON DC IMMEDIATE RHMFISS/FBI WASHINGTON DC IMMEDIATE RUEAWJA/DEPT OF JUSTICE WASHDC IMMEDIATE RUCPDOC/DEPT OF COMMERCE WASHDC IMMEDIATE RHEHNSC/NSC WASHDC IMMEDIATE

C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 03 BEIJING 000247

SIPDIS

DEPT FOR S, P, D, EAP/CM, EEB, AND H NSC FOR BADER, MEDEIROS, AND LOI

E.O. 12958: DECL: 01/28/2030 TAGS: ECON [Economic Conditions], EINV [Foreign Investments], PGOV [Internal Governmental Affairs], PREL [External Political Relations], CH [China (Mainland)] SUBJECT: GOOGLE UPDATE: CHINA TECH BUSINESS COMMUNITY SPECULATES AND EVALUATES

REF: BEIJING 183

Classified By: Economic Minister Counselor Weinstein for reasons: 1.4(B ), (D)

ۦ1. (C) Summary. Despite media reports quoting Google officials in the U.S. as saying Google is in talks with China, a Ministry of Commerce official told a visiting U.S. delegation on January 28 that "it would be better if Google stopped telling the media that it is in negotiations with China, since it is not." However, a Foreign Ministry official told Poloff earlier this week there is going to be a "meeting in Davos" that China hopes "will resolve everything in an extremely low-key and quiet manner." Separately, several U.S.-China dialogues related to IT issues were unexpectedly postponed by China this week due to the purported unavailability of key officials who had previously confirmed to attend. It is unclear, however, whether the postponements are related. Google remained the hot topic this week among our contacts in China,s information technology (IT) industry, with those in foreign firms generally supportive and appreciative of the Secretary,s speech on internet freedom. Expat executives said that while they expect the USG's highlighting of internet freedom and requests for an investigation of Google's allegations will lead to frictions with China, they welcomed the intervention in what they see as an increasingly difficult operating environment. End summary.

GOOGLE REMAINS HOT ------------------ ۦ2. (C) Google's decision to potentially walk away from China's market of nearly 400 million internet users continues to spark extensive discussion on a range of important related issues: censorship and information flow; principled versus bottom-line decision-making; protection of corporate proprietary information and intellectual property; and how companies can effect positive change from within a foreign economy. Secretary Clinton's January 21 speech on Internet freedom touched a nerve in China's leadership (reftel), and rightly so according to our local business contacts who regularly cite the increasingly challenging business climate in China. Locally-based western businessmen and consultants are viewing Google's confrontation with the Chinese authorities with a fascinated mix of admiration and caution, though few are willing to bet on the ultimate outcome.

ۦ3. (C) Western companies, Chinese employees are, not surprisingly, sometimes more sympathetic to the PRC,s position. Local Caterpillar Vice President S.C. Xiao commented that Google has played matters badly, suggesting it should have tried to help PRC authorities understand what Google provides "is good for China." Xiao stated he thinks Google approached the problem incorrectly, citing Bill Gates' position that companies must "follow the laws of the country in which they operate." Xiao also intimated that, as a Chinese citizen, he could empathize with the Chinese government,s fears that Google's services could be used by Dalai Lama supporters to publicize their views throughout China. Liu Tao, Government Affairs Manager for Caterpillar, notes that the parties involved in the Google issue should discuss the issue without "being so emotional." Liu, a Chinese citizen, said that the Chinese government was "not acting emotionally" over this issue.

PREDICTIONS FOR A RESOLUTION ---------------------------- ۦ4. (C) A visiting London-based APCO executive believes the Google matter was a "good shaking of the tree" for China issues needing greater visibility. Although he predicted impact from Google would not necessarily change the game for European interests here, he noted that Google has established close relations with UK Conservatives, and predicted a potential future Conservative government would be very supportive of the tenets in Secretary Clinton's recent speech. Another Beijing-based APCO consultant compared Google,s experience to Intel, which in 2003 threatened to withdraw from China after Chinese authorities sought to impose technological modifications to its encryption-enabled products. The Chinese government ultimately backed down, but our local contact believes Chinese payback continues today and is one reason China insists that homegrown technology be

BEIJING 00000247 002 OF 003

co-installed in any WI-FI-enabled phones/communication devices. The latter local contact further suggested Google could pursue resolution of its current impasse by lobbying technologically-enlightened senior statesmen, especially more pro-business ones, who might sway China's leadership to address Google's censorship issues more moderately.

ۦ5. (C) Many contacts have opined that it appears Google will likely remain in China, albeit with a more limited presence, i.e., without a search engine service. Although Google has firmly positioned itself on censorship matters and hence will likely have little choice but to take down its Google.cn search site, they believe Google executives' public statements and vested interests still coincide with maintaining at least some presence in China.

LONG TERM OUTLOOK POSITIVE, SHORT TERM FALLOUT --------------------------------------------- - ۦ6. (C) Another IT association representative told Econoff that interest in the Google case "highlights the growing number of Chinese measures and policy goals that diminish the investment environment in China... part of a troubling pattern that is making it increasingly difficult for foreign firms to do business." Business contacts told ConGen Shanghai that they "welcome a more assertive voice on behalf of the U.S. While it may not be good for U.S.-China relations in the short term, it will be better in the long term. We need to stand for what we believe in." Injecting a more cautionary note, however, another Shanghai businessmen warns that "America will not advance its objectives with regard to the bilateral relationship by telling the Chinese government that it is working to put new internet technologies into the hands of dissidents. In this particular face-off, at least, the Chinese are 'spinning' the issue far more effectively than the Americans."

ۦ7. (C) Fallout beyond China's borders continues. Two governmental dialogues (the U.S. China ICT Consultations, previously scheduled for February 9, 2010, and the DOC-Ministry of Industry and Information Technology on February 2, 2010 - both in Washington DC) were postponed this week due to purported unavailability of key officials who had previously confirmed to attend. Congen Shanghai has found many IPR-related meetings cancelled this week. Interestingly, officials from the Swedish Embassy were summoned to the MFA to receive a protest of statements made by the Swedish FM supportive of Secretary Clinton's speech on Internet Freedom. According to our Swedish contacts, the MFA charged the Swedes with damaging ties during the 60th anniversary of Chinese-Swedish diplomatic relationship.

WHAT'S DRIVING CHINA -------------------- ۦ8. (C) According to another well-respected tech sector analyst here, a number of historical, cultural, and technological factors have coalesced to put China in a technologically-aggressive state-of-mind. One contributing factor was Microsoft's flubbed 2004 "black screen" strategy to deter intellectual property theft by darkening computer monitors running unlicensed Windows operating software. This consultant believes that example of U.S. technology effectively wielding power over China's personal computers helped spur China's aggressive campaign for source codes and its own technology. This, combined with growing Chinese pride, economic clout and influence, and the "weakened" position of the U.S. and its allies after the global economic downturn, are emboldening the Chinese to take ever more aggressive positions in advancing its innovative industries at the expense of foreign ones.

ۦ9. (C) A local Microsoft executive applauds the Secretary's speech and the Administration's commitment "to organize sustained, targeted, persistent engagement on the full range of Internet-related issues" with China. This executive said the Secretary's remarks were "right on point," particularly for companies who "desperately need the help of the USG" in the face of "harassment, threats and actual shutdowns of service, threats of licenses being revoked, resistance to provide legal authority, mandates to place servers in China, etc." Our local APCO contact described the Google issue as a "stirring of the beehive," but says the kind of harassment Microsoft describes is a fact of worsening life here which

BEIJING 00000247 003 OF 003

the Google incident only helps spotlight. HUNTSMAN







This cable is interesting for many political reasons, too.

Recent Techrights' Posts

Microsoft: Our "Goodwill" Gained Over 51 Billion Dollars in the Past Nine Months Alone, Now "Worth" as Much as All Our Physical Assets (Property and Equipment)
The makeup of a Ponzi scheme where the balance sheet has immaterial nonsense
FSFE (Ja, Das Gulag Deutschland) Has Lost Its Tongue
Articles/month
 
Links 27/04/2024: Spying Under Fire, Intel in Trouble Again
Links for the day
Lucas Kanashiro & Debian/Canonical/Ubuntu female GSoC intern relationship
Reprinted with permission from disguised.work
Pranav Jain & Debian, DebConf, unfair rent boy rumors
Reprinted with permission from disguised.work
Links 27/04/2024: Kaiser Gave Patients' Data to Microsoft, "Microsoft Lost ‘Dream Job’ Status"
Links for the day
Gemini Links 27/04/2024: Sunrise Photos and Slow Productivity
Links for the day
Almost 2,700 New Posts Since Upgrading to Static Site 7 Months Ago, Still Getting More Productive Over Time
We've come a long way since last autumn
Over at Tux Machines...
GNU/Linux news for the past day
IRC Proceedings: Friday, April 26, 2024
IRC logs for Friday, April 26, 2024
Overpaid lawyer & Debian miss WIPO deadline
Reprinted with permission from disguised.work
Brian Gupta & Debian: WIPO claim botched, suspended
Reprinted with permission from disguised.work
Microsoft's XBox is Dying (For Second Year in a Row Over 30% Drop in Hardware Sales)
they boast about fake numbers or very deliberately misleading numbers that represent two companies, not one
Ian Jackson & Debian reject mediation
Reprinted with permission from disguised.work
[Meme] Granting a Million Monopolies in Europe (to Non-European Companies) at Europe's Expense
Financialization of the EPO
Salary Adjustment Procedure at the EPO Challenged
the EPO must properly compensate staff in order to attract and retain suitably skilled examiners
How to get selected for Outreachy internships
Reprinted with permission from disguised.work
Links 26/04/2024: Surveillance Abundant, Restoring Net Neutrality Rules (US)
Links for the day
Gemini Links 26/04/2024: uConsole and EXWM and stdu 1.0.0
Links for the day
Red Hat Corporate Communications is "Red" Now
Also notice they offer just two options: MICROSOFT or... MICROSOFT!
Links 26/04/2024: XBox Sales Have Collapsed, Facebook's Shares Collapse Too
Links for the day
Albanian women, Brazilian women & Debian Outreachy racism under Chris Lamb
Reprinted with permission from disguised.work
Microsoft-Funded 'News' Site: XBox Hardware Revenue Declined by 31%
Ignore the ludicrous media spin
Mark Shuttleworth, Elio Qoshi & Debian/Ubuntu underage girls
Reprinted with permission from disguised.work
Karen Sandler, Outreachy & Debian Money in Albania
Reprinted with permission from disguised.work
Over at Tux Machines...
GNU/Linux news for the past day
IRC Proceedings: Thursday, April 25, 2024
IRC logs for Thursday, April 25, 2024
Links 26/04/2024: Facebook Collapses, Kangaroo Courts for Patents, BlizzCon Canceled Under Microsoft
Links for the day
Gemini Links 26/04/2024: Music, Philosophy, and Socialising
Links for the day
Microsoft Claims "Goodwill" Is an Asset Valued at $119,163,000,000, Cash Decreased From $34,704,000,000 to $19,634,000,000 and Total Liabilities Grew to $231,123,000,000
Earnings Release FY24 Q3
More Microsoft Cuts: Events Canceled, Real Sales Down Sharply
So they will call (or rebrand) everything "AI" or "Azure" or "cloud" while adding revenues from Blizzard to pretend something is growing
CISA Has a Microsoft Conflict of Interest Problem (CISA Cannot Achieve Its Goals, It Protects the Worst Culprit)
people from Microsoft "speaking for" "Open Source" and for "security"
Links 25/04/2024: South Korean Military to Ban iPhone, Armenian Remembrance Day
Links for the day
Gemini Links 25/04/2024: SFTP, VoIP, Streaming, Full-Content Web Feeds, and Gemini Thoughts
Links for the day
Audiocasts/Shows: FLOSS Weekly and mintCast
the latest pair of episodes
[Meme] Arvind Krishna's Business Machines
He is harming Red Hat in a number of ways (he doesn't understand it) and Fedora users are running out of patience (many volunteers quit years ago)
[Video] Debian's Newfound Love of Censorship Has Become a Threat to the Entire Internet
SPI/Debian might end up with rotten tomatoes in the face
Joerg (Ganneff) Jaspert, Dalbergschule Fulda & Debian Death threats
Reprinted with permission from disguised.work
Amber Heard, Junior Female Developers & Debian Embezzlement
Reprinted with permission from disguised.work
[Video] Time to Acknowledge Debian Has a Real Problem and This Problem Needs to be Solved
it would make sense to try to resolve conflicts and issues, not exacerbate these
Daniel Pocock elected on ANZAC Day and anniversary of Easter Rising (FSFE Fellowship)
Reprinted with permission from Daniel Pocock
[Video] IBM's Poor Results Reinforce the Idea of Mass Layoffs on the Way (Just Like at Microsoft)
it seems likely Red Hat layoffs are in the making
Ulrike Uhlig & Debian, the $200,000 woman who quit
Reprinted with permission from disguised.work
IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, April 24, 2024
IRC logs for Wednesday, April 24, 2024
Over at Tux Machines...
GNU/Linux news for the past day