01.16.08

Gemini version available ♊︎

Updates on Turbolinux and Linspire (Mandriva Deal and CNR Status Report)

Posted in Boycott Novell, Deals, GNU/Linux, Linspire, Mandriva, Microsoft, Scalix, Turbolinux, Ubuntu at 10:00 am by Dr. Roy Schestowitz

Novell’s little sisters still making baby steps

Mandriva has already made it very clear that it would not sign a patent deal with Microsoft. It is curious to find though that Mandriva has just joined forces with Turbolinux, which had sold out and showed off its loveaffrair with Microsoft a couple of months ago.

The deal has no troublesome bits contained in the press release. It is a purely technical collaboration that has nothing at all to do with Microsoft technologies, so unlike Scalix, there should be no effect by association.

Turbolinux Noriko Otake, otake@turbolinux.co.jp or International Business Division, +81-3-5766-1142 ib@turbolinux.co.jp or Mandriva Vanessa Wall, +33-(0)1-40-41-97-29 vwall@mandriva.com Mandriva and Turbolinux announce a partnership by creating a lab named: Manbo-Labs. This Lab is the result of an agreement between Mandriva and Turbolinux to share resources and technology to release a common base system on each
of the Linux distributions.

Also in the news, the ‘bread and butter’ of Linspire, namely CNR, has progress to report.

Since the launch of CNR.com beta last month, over 20,000 new CNR users
have downloaded and installed the beta CNR Client. In addition, over
250,000 software programs, packages and libraries were downloaded and
installed at an 89.9% successful installation rate.

This seems like slow progress. The success of Linspire is still pretty much hinged on its ability to distinguish itself or even getting others dependent on its software. CNR is the company’s only real asset. As we were told by someone who knows the company pretty well, it is unlikely that Linspire will survive. Kevin Carmony made a horrible mistake before leaving the company, more latterly hopping on some dating Web site business while boasting and marketing himself as a “Linux CEO”. He seems to be flipping jobs nowadays, not only distros (he tried to become part of Ubuntu).

Share in other sites/networks: These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and discover new web pages.
  • Reddit
  • email

Decor ᶃ Gemini Space

Below is a Web proxy. We recommend getting a Gemini client/browser.

Black/white/grey bullet button This post is also available in Gemini over at this address (requires a Gemini client/browser to open).

Decor ✐ Cross-references

Black/white/grey bullet button Pages that cross-reference this one, if any exist, are listed below or will be listed below over time.

Decor ▢ Respond and Discuss

Black/white/grey bullet button If you liked this post, consider subscribing to the RSS feed or join us now at the IRC channels.

6 Comments

  1. Dude said,

    January 16, 2008 at 12:16 pm

    Gravatar

    Roy,

    Boycotting Kevin for being an evil CEO is one (good) thing, but dumping on those who have decided to try to make the best of the mess Kevin left behind is a low blow (don’t they have it hard enough already?)

    CNR is truly implemented in the spirit of the GPL and open source software. I.e. anyone is free to use the service without even creating an account, the source code for the CNR client and all such open source software is readily available for download and the service revolves around community input and direction.

    I for one hope that CNR can find its way out of the hole its been placed in because it is a great service, despite the sins of the previous CEO.

  2. Xanadu said,

    January 16, 2008 at 4:02 pm

    Gravatar

    If the new linspire administration was so good, they would have tried to drop the deal, wouldn’t them?

  3. Xanadu said,

    January 16, 2008 at 4:07 pm

    Gravatar

    I just hope this doesn’t become a new MS-FUD-deal by proxy strategy to be used on other distros.

  4. Roy Schestowitz said,

    January 16, 2008 at 6:44 pm

    Gravatar

    If the new linspire administration was so good, they would have tried to drop the deal, wouldn’t them?

    Yes, exactly.

    I just hope this doesn’t become a new MS-FUD-deal by proxy strategy to be used on other distros.

    That’s what had me worried. I missed a heartbeat when my feed reader truncated the headline to just show: “Mandriva and Turbolinux Announce a Partnership and…”

  5. Dude said,

    January 16, 2008 at 7:55 pm

    Gravatar

    Good point, IF they could have gotten out of the deal they should have…I am just not sure that is the case because typically the deal is written such that there are big penalties for early termination.

  6. Roy Schestowitz said,

    January 16, 2008 at 11:55 pm

    Gravatar

    Can they ‘fork’ the code and move into a separate empty shell company? I don’t think that would sit well with the company’s founder. Besides, there’s already a defection of Linspire (and Xandros, IIRC) ‘escapees’ who created and now maintain their own distribution. It’s based on Kubuntu as far as I can tell.

DecorWhat Else is New


  1. No More Twitter, Mastodon, and Diaspora for Tux Machines (Goodbye to Social Control Media)

    People would benefit from mass abandonment of such pseudo-social pseudo-media.



  2. Links 28/05/2023: New Wine and More

    Links for the day



  3. Links 27/05/2023: Plans Made for GNU's 40th Anniversary

    Links for the day



  4. Social Control Media Needs to be Purged and We Need to Convince Others to Quit It Too (to Protect Ourselves as Individuals and as a Society)

    With the Tux Machines anniversary (19 years) just days away we seriously consider abandoning all social control media accounts of that site, including Mastodon and Diaspora; social control networks do far more harm than good and they’ve gotten a lot worse over time



  5. Anonymously Travelling: Still Feasible?

    The short story is that in the UK it's still possible to travel anonymously by bus, tram, and train (even with shades, hat and mask/s on), but how long for? Or how much longer have we got before this too gets banned under the false guise of "protecting us" (or "smart"/"modern")?



  6. With EUIPO in Focus, and Even an EU Kangaroo Tribunal, EPO Corruption (and Cross-Pollination With This EU Agency) Becomes a Major Liability/Risk to the EU

    With the UPC days away (an illegal and unconstitutional kangaroo court system, tied to the European Union in spite of critical deficiencies) it’s curious to see EPO scandals of corruption spilling over to the European Union already



  7. European Patent Office (EPO) Management Not Supported by the EPO's Applicants, So Why Is It Still There?

    This third translation in the batch is an article similar to the prior one, but the text is a bit different (“Patente ohne Wert”)



  8. EPO Applicants Complain That Patent Quality Sank and EPO Management Isn't Listening (Nor Caring)

    SUEPO has just released 3 translations of new articles in German (here is the first of the batch); the following is the second of the three (“Kritik am Europäischen Patentamt – Patente ohne Wert?”)



  9. German Media About Industry Patent Quality Charter (IPQC) and the European Patent Office (EPO)

    SUEPO has just released 3 translations of new articles in German; this is the first of the three (“Industrie kritisiert Europäisches Patentamt”)



  10. Geminispace Continues to Grow Even If (or When) Stéphane Bortzmeyer Stops Measuring Its Growth

    A Gemini crawler called Lupa (Free/libre software) has been used for years by Stéphane Bortzmeyer to study Gemini and report on how the community was evolving, especially from a technical perspective; but his own instance of Lupa has produced no up-to-date results for several weeks



  11. Links 27/05/2023: Goodbyes to Tina Turner

    Links for the day



  12. HMRC: You Can Click and Type to Report Crime, But No Feedback or Reference Number Given

    The crimes of Sirius ‘Open Source’ were reported 7 days ago to HMRC (equivalent to the IRS in the US, more or less); but there has been no visible progress and no tracking reference is given to identify the report



  13. IRC Proceedings: Friday, May 26, 2023

    IRC logs for Friday, May 26, 2023



  14. One Week After Sirius Open Source Was Reported to HM Revenue and Customs (HMRC) for Tax Fraud: No Response, No Action, Nothing...

    One week ago we reported tax abuses of Sirius ‘Open Source’ to HMRC; we still wait for any actual signs that HMRC is doing anything at all about the matter (Sirius has British government clients, so maybe they’d rather not look into that, in which case HMRC might be reported to the Ombudsman for malpractice)



  15. Links 26/05/2023: Weston 12.0 Highlights and US Debt Limit Panic

    Links for the day



  16. Gemini Links 26/05/2023: New People in Gemini

    Links for the day



  17. IRC Proceedings: Thursday, May 25, 2023

    IRC logs for Thursday, May 25, 2023



  18. Links 26/05/2023: Qt 6.5.1 and Subsystems in GNUnet

    Links for the day



  19. Links 25/05/2023: Mesa 23.1.1 and Debian Reunion

    Links for the day



  20. Links 25/05/2023: IBM as Leading Wayland Pusher

    Links for the day



  21. IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, May 24, 2023

    IRC logs for Wednesday, May 24, 2023



  22. Links 25/05/2023: Istio 1.16.5 and Curl 8.1.1

    Links for the day



  23. Gemini Links 25/05/2023: On Profit and Desire for Gemini

    Links for the day



  24. SiliconANGLE: Sponsored by Microsoft and Red Hat to Conduct the Marriage Ceremony

    SiliconANGLE insists that paying SiliconANGLE money for coverage does not lead to bias, but every sane person who keeps abreast of SiliconANGLE — and I read their entire feed every day — knows that it’s a ludicrous lie (Red Hat/IBM and the Linux Foundation also buy puff pieces and “event coverage” from SiliconANGLE, so it’s marketing disguised as “journalism”



  25. Links 24/05/2023: Podman Desktop 1.0, BSDCan 2024, and More

    Links for the day



  26. Gemini Links 24/05/2023: Razors, Profit, and More

    Links for the day



  27. [Meme] When the Patent Office Controls Kangaroo Patent Courts and Judges

    The EPO has been hijacked by industry and its lobbyists; now the same is happening to EU patent courts, even though it is illegal and unconstitutional



  28. The Illegally 'Revised' Unified Patent Court Agreement (UPCA) is Disgracing the Perception of Law and Order in the European Union

    The Unified Patent Court (UPC) isn’t legal, the Unified Patent Court Agreement (UPCA) is being altered on the fly (by a person patently ineligible to do so), and so it generally looks like even patent courts across Europe might soon become as corrupt as the European Patent Office, which has no basis in the Rule of the Law and is basically just a front for large corporations (most of them aren’t even European)



  29. Sirius 'Open Source', With High-Level Political Clients, Reported to Politicians

    The crimes of Sirius ‘Open Source’ are of interest to the British public sector; we’ve begun contacting relevant people



  30. IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, May 23, 2023

    IRC logs for Tuesday, May 23, 2023


RSS 64x64RSS Feed: subscribe to the RSS feed for regular updates

Home iconSite Wiki: You can improve this site by helping the extension of the site's content

Home iconSite Home: Background about the site and some key features in the front page

Chat iconIRC Channel: Come and chat with us in real time

Recent Posts