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IRC #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: June 9th, 2008

Posted in IRC Logs at 3:32 am by Dr. Roy Schestowitz

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balzac hello Jun 08 23:58
balzac I just read about Mark Shuttleworth licensing proprietary software from Microsoft. Jun 08 23:58
balzac That really makes it clear that Mark Shuttleworth is not serious and I should be looking for another distro. Jun 08 23:58
moparx hey Jun 08 23:59
balzac hi moparx Jun 08 23:59
balzac Gnewsense or Debian – that’s what I’m thinking about now… Jun 09 00:00
moparx let the deciding begin :) Jun 09 00:01
balzac well, I’m mulling it over. I really like aptitude. Jun 09 00:02
balzac I don’t like the idea of being downstream of some project I don’t really have full confidence in. Jun 09 00:02
balzac I don’t yet know the implications of Ubuntu being downstream of debian or of Gnewsense being downstream of Ubuntu. Jun 09 00:03
balzac I want to get rid of any proprietary blobs Jun 09 00:04
balzac I’ve compared the proprietary blobs in the Linux Kernel to a case of the measles. Jun 09 00:04
balzac what are you using, moparx? Jun 09 00:04
moparx I run arch linux & slackware right now. going to put together a debian machine soon Jun 09 00:05
balzac I’m not happy when someone serves up proprietary crap in my distro’s repository. Jun 09 00:07
balzac It reminds me of when I order turkey bacon or turkey sausage and then I get paranoid I’m getting real bacon or real sausage. Jun 09 00:08
balzac I don’t like being paranoid about my restaurants, nor about my linux distro. Jun 09 00:08
moparx *nod* Jun 09 00:08
balzac I wonder if debian keeps their repositories clean. Jun 09 00:09
balzac I think RMS is using Gnewsense, which is a cleaned-up, derivative of ubuntu. Jun 09 00:10
moparx he is if I recall correctly Jun 09 00:10
balzac but I don’t like being downstream of some distro I don’t have full confidence. Jun 09 00:10
moparx http://www.gnu.org/link… Jun 09 00:11
balzac It’s like eating vegetables chopped on the same cutting board which had pork on it a minute ago and you get pork juices on your veggies. Jun 09 00:11
balzac thanks Jun 09 00:12
moparx no problem :) Jun 09 00:12
balzac I guess he was favoring Utotu before. Jun 09 00:12
moparx It is a shame that the list on that page is so small Jun 09 00:16
balzac I’m still getting data off of my last windows box so I can delete it. Jun 09 00:16
balzac I’ve been inspired by RMS to get rid of all non-free software and not to have contact with it except for during an emergency. Jun 09 00:17
balzac I’m going to get an open moko phone too, when new ones are available. Jun 09 00:17
balzac Yeah, it’s a shame the FSF budget is so low as well. Jun 09 00:17
moparx I’d love to have an open moko myself Jun 09 00:18
balzac It’s not easy for me as a web developer. Jun 09 00:18
balzac I’m checking my websites with a remote desktop session to a windows machine. I’m not direction “using” windows or IE. Jun 09 00:18
balzac But I have to get my style sheets working right. Jun 09 00:18
moparx *nod* Jun 09 00:19
balzac Technically, I’m downloading images of a windows session and sending clicks back. Jun 09 00:19
balzac the RDC connection is kind of like a condom which keeps me from direct contact with windows. Jun 09 00:19
balzac But I’d really like to not have to do that. Jun 09 00:20
balzac I can ask my friends to do what must be done with proprietary software, but it seems kind of hypocritical. Jun 09 00:20
balzac I have friends who develop flash and I’m glad we can do contracts which require it but I won’t touch flash anymore. Jun 09 00:21
balzac I gave up photoshop, flash, dreamweaver, and all proprietary games. No more Halo on the Xbox. Jun 09 00:21
balzac It’s going to feel damned good to be rid of the last proprietary software in my life. Jun 09 00:23
moparx you should play tremulous. it is a great open source multiplayer game :) Jun 09 00:23
balzac it’s built in blender? Jun 09 00:24
moparx nah Jun 09 00:24
balzac I’ll try it out. I probably need a faster computer. I can barely play alien arena. Jun 09 00:25
moparx ah Jun 09 00:25
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*tessier drops a prawn down moparx’s gaping maw Jun 09 00:57
moparx :( Jun 09 00:57
tessier What, you don’t like prawns? Jun 09 00:57
moparx prawns as in the crustacean? Jun 09 00:58
tessier yeas Jun 09 00:58
tessier yes Jun 09 00:58
moparx to be honest I don’t believe i’ve ever had them Jun 09 00:59
moparx *hears crickets chirping* :p Jun 09 01:01
moparx ;_; Jun 09 01:04
moparx I do like shrimp though (they are close enough :p) Jun 09 01:12
tessier Yes, they are quite similar Jun 09 01:27
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dsmith_ If just Acer, HP , Lenovo and Dell stop buying/selling windows today, microsoft will be bankruptcy tomorrow, and i mean literally. Jun 09 01:30
tessier They have billions in the bank don’t they? How would they go bankrupt tomorrow? Jun 09 01:35
tessier At worst they would stop funding their money losing projects Jun 09 01:36
tessier But there would still be more than enough people buying Windows to keep MS in business Jun 09 01:36
tessier There are many small companies with far less revenue that remain afloat Jun 09 01:36
dsmith_ I was reposting something I read Jun 09 01:37
dsmith_ its a matter of choice, I want to pick my own OS Jun 09 01:38
Eruaran Microsoft have literally billions in the bank, but that doesn’t mean their share price wouldn’t head south very quickly if they faced a significant backlash from OEM’s. Jun 09 01:44
dsmith_ hmmmmmmmmmm Jun 09 01:44
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Eruaran see :) Jun 09 01:53
dsmith_ lol Jun 09 01:56
dsmith_ roy, dont post that Jun 09 01:57
dsmith_ :P Jun 09 01:57
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dsmith_ hi ziggy Jun 09 02:31
ZiggyFish good morning (it is still morning (11:38:05)) Jun 09 02:31
dsmith_ its 9:38 pm hee Jun 09 02:31
dsmith_ *here Jun 09 02:31
moparx hey ZiggyFish Jun 09 02:33
ZiggyFish hey Jun 09 02:34
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ZiggyFish dsmith_: you must of been on the node the netsplit ocuured on Jun 09 04:17
dsmith_ *shrug* Jun 09 04:18
Eruaran The new krunner for kde 4.1 is way cool Jun 09 04:26
Eruaran You can use it to find and launch programs, files, you can Google search with it, its predictive so it tries to guess what it is youre looking for as youre typing, and… you can teach it to do things it has never done before Jun 09 04:29
moparx im guessing it is a quicksilver clone from the sound of it Jun 09 04:41
moparx that type of app is pretty cool Jun 09 04:43
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schestowitz OK, I’m back  (been away for like 12 hours). dsmith, don’t worry, I’ll omit the foul-mouthed intrusion. It appears to always be the same person (via Tor). Jun 09 07:35
Eruaran hello schestowitz Jun 09 07:38
schestowitz Microsoft appears to be EEEing SourceForge: http://port25.technet.com/… Jun 09 07:58
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Eruaran *reads* Jun 09 08:00
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schestowitz Just done quick post about it: Microsoft Tries to Gradually Embrace & Extend SourceForge ( http://boycottnovell.com/20… ) Jun 09 08:26
Eruaran Its like letting Monty Burns do recycling… Jun 09 08:29
Eruaran (if you’ve seen that episode) Jun 09 08:32
schestowitz I probably did many years ago. I’ve watched hundreds of episodes since I was 10, but this one no longer rings a bell. Jun 09 08:36
schestowitz Microsoft is /already/ giving open source a bad name. It’s part of the reason more people step back to “Free software” as the terminology of choice. Jun 09 08:37
Eruaran Apparrently reformed and committed to a non-evil recycling enterprise, it turns out that Mr Burns has not been reformed at all, and that he’s evil even when he thinks he’s doing good… He invents the omni-net, a net made of beer can plastic holders that wipes the ocean floors clean, doing massive environmental damage and uses what he scoops up to create Slurry, an all purpose… slurry… Jun 09 08:41
schestowitz Oh, I think I remember that. Microsoft too ‘helps’ open source: 1) it makes brochures; 2) it reinforced the use of the words/terms “commercial”, “people-ready”, and “enterprise” in the context of open source; 3) It makes available software licences that are not as ‘restrictive’ as the GPL; 4) It helps open source work ‘better’ with Vista; 5) It makes open source ‘interoperable’ with OOXML-based software (think Blender 3D letter) and compatib Jun 09 08:46
schestowitz le with Windows DRM. Jun 09 08:46
tessier Yes, I am more and more convinced that Free Software is the way to go. Jun 09 09:13
tessier But it is just so tedious always having to say Free (as in freedom ) Software and watching the cynics roll their eyes. Jun 09 09:13
schestowitz Open source and FS used to be the same, but they diverged when OSI ‘opened up’ too much (CPAL, msX). Everyone wants a piece of the action (hype), but it becomes a party p00per. Jun 09 09:14
schestowitz “Libre software”? Jun 09 09:15
tessier Even weirder. You then have to explain latin or spanish or something. Jun 09 09:15
tessier RMS has been fighting/explaining this for years. There’s just no good solution. :( Jun 09 09:16
tessier Damn our horrible english language. Jun 09 09:16
schestowitz Had it not been for this ambiguity, maybe open source would not have been born and FS accepted more quickly. Jun 09 09:18
schestowitz Then again, the term FS is akin to the ‘playful cleverness’ of terms like Gnu and Copyleft. Jun 09 09:19
Eruaran I tend to agree with RMS and Eben Moglen when it comes to FS v Open Source Jun 09 09:39
Eruaran I find it ironic that today the KDE team uses the term Free Software on their main site (after the Qt issues years ago), linking to the FSF and taking a firm position on Free Software while GNOME which oringinally came into being because people felt that KDE was not genuinely free, they now fiddle about with Mono and Silverlight… Jun 09 09:42
schestowitz More people agree with them now that open source is derailed somewhat. Personally, rather than saying “Free software” to people who don’t know it I just say “GPL”, which is a widely used (most used) licence that many people are aware of. Jun 09 09:42
Eruaran yes Jun 09 09:43
benJIman People who think that free software must refer to price obviously havn’t read the first 17 definitions of free http://www.answers.com/free&r=67 Jun 09 09:43
schestowitz How about “Free /User/ Software”? Jun 09 09:44
PetoKraus FUSS? Jun 09 09:45
Eruaran I think that GPL keeps things concise and clear Jun 09 09:45
schestowitz No muss, no fuss. Jun 09 09:45
benJIman Free software is not really ambigous. People don’t think that when they read “Eggs from free hens” for example. Jun 09 09:45
Eruaran free range software ? Jun 09 09:46
schestowitz But Microsoft /tries/ to confuse. Jun 09 09:46
schestowitz Watch what Bill Gates did a month ago. He explicitly said to the audience that Microsoft does free software (dumpware) and then said that there it this ‘GPL thingue’, which “we don’t agree with”. Jun 09 09:46
schestowitz Mark Shuttleworth has just posted a comment in Boycott Novell: http://boycottnovell.com/2008/06/… Jun 09 09:49
Eruaran I’m glad Mark reads boycottnovell Jun 09 09:55
PetoKraus yes. Jun 09 09:55
schestowitz It was also in the Ubuntu mailing lists. It turns out that way anyway. I gave him a hard time with Gobuntu before. http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/o… Jun 09 09:57
schestowitz He has always been a pragmatist due to commercial pressures. Jun 09 09:57
PetoKraus lol Jun 09 10:14
PetoKraus Mono in Gobuntu, which should be Free distribution? Jun 09 10:14
PetoKraus haha Jun 09 10:16
PetoKraus this is black humouru Jun 09 10:16
PetoKraus FFx in Free distro… :D Jun 09 10:16
schestowitz Yes. Jun 09 10:17
PetoKraus smack him in face, please Jun 09 10:18
PetoKraus I mean, I use proprietary ATI driver, and proprietary intel microcode, and I don’t even wanna know about codecs Jun 09 10:19
PetoKraus but saying that something is free, when it ISN’T…. that’s stupid. Jun 09 10:19
schestowitz You mean Gobuntu? Jun 09 10:25
schestowitz The main problem at the time was that’s it’s an unfair advantage. Take gNewSense for example. They created a Ubuntu derivative (fair enough, like Debian->Ubuntu), but didn’t take ‘shortcuts of convenience’. The GNU operating system suffered from this in its early days when GNU/Linux operating system tried to boast added value with non-Free s/w. Jun 09 10:27
PetoKraus it’s not only unfair Jun 09 10:29
PetoKraus it’s a lie Jun 09 10:29
schestowitz Among all my articles I think this was the only one that criticised a GNU/Linux distribution (and unsurprisingly hurt my relationship with Mark). He later took the advice and just decided to support gNewSense, not duplicate their effort. Jun 09 10:33
PetoKraus :) Jun 09 10:33
schestowitz Be ready for Canonical to become more like Mandriva, i.e. Fleundo-’enhanced’ Ubuntu up for sale. Sure, it’s speculative at this stage, by the first step has already been taken. Jun 09 11:17
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schestowitz http://boycottnovell.com/2008/06/07/… Mark S: “I think that was added today. Our marketing team should not have put an mp4 up as the default, and when they saw this commentary they immediately apologized to the distro team for creating the wrong impression. I assume they have since published the ogg.” Jun 09 17:31
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schestowitz Welcome, yuhong Jun 09 17:58
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Sam1338 Down with capatalism! Jun 09 18:02
schestowitz Howdy. Jun 09 18:03
Sam1338 hi Jun 09 18:10
Sam1338 Because they steal from the poor and give to the rich? Jun 09 18:11
Sam1338 Sure they don’t actually steal but they take money from people who don’t need to give them money and don’t actually want to give them money even though they think they do. Jun 09 18:12
schestowitz Novel, you mean? Jun 09 18:13
schestowitz Novell? Jun 09 18:13
Sam1338 Do they do that? Jun 09 18:14
schestowitz The Novell issue is different. The issue we explore here is how Free software gets pushed towards becoming proprietary. Jun 09 18:15
Sam1338 Exactly. Jun 09 18:16
Sam1338 That’s why I wasn’t referring to Novell. Jun 09 18:16
schestowitz I know you’re a Phoronix reader (probably hardware enthusiast), so this can affect you too. Jun 09 18:16
Sam1338 I’m not a hardware enthusiast. I bought my pc 3 years ago from pcworld Jun 09 18:16
schestowitz While drivers become open (NDAs not being a big issue), software patents intrude. Jun 09 18:16
schestowitz I see you’re posting via BT. Jun 09 18:17
Sam1338 I only use phoronix to compare ati and nvidia gpus. Jun 09 18:17
schestowitz Another issue is software patents being pushed towards Europe. Jun 09 18:17
Sam1338 What’s wrong with BT? Jun 09 18:17
schestowitz The UK is already partly affected, due to recent developments.\ Jun 09 18:17
schestowitz Nothing wrong with BT. Jun 09 18:17
Sam1338 Why mention BT then? Jun 09 18:17
zoobab BT is implementing DPI Jun 09 18:17
schestowitz Canonical, which is UK-based, has just paid for proprietary codecs it puts in Remix. Jun 09 18:18
zoobab right now Jun 09 18:18
zoobab I think Jun 09 18:18
Sam1338 zoobab: What’s DPI? Jun 09 18:18
zoobab Deep Packet Inspection Jun 09 18:18
Sam1338 zoobab: I don’t like my ISP, they really suck, we’re changing imminently. Jun 09 18:18
schestowitz I mentioned BT because you said PC world and I tried to figure out what patents laws apply where you live. Jun 09 18:18
schestowitz I too am in the UK. Jun 09 18:18
Sam1338 I want to live in a world where all software is open source. Jun 09 18:19
schestowitz That used to be the case. Jun 09 18:19
schestowitz 1970s. Roughly. Jun 09 18:19
Sam1338 I have limited the amount of proprietory software I use to a minimum. At the moment I only use proprietory software for games. Jun 09 18:20
zoobab https://nodpi.org/?p=6 Jun 09 18:20
Sam1338 Oh and flash but will install gnash soon. Jun 09 18:20
Sam1338 BT Should be boycotted. Jun 09 18:21
Sam1338 Damn evil companies >< Jun 09 18:21
schestowitz Well, as long as one can identify the issues. Jun 09 18:21
Sam1338 They limit my legal Bittorrent download speeds to <20kbps during the day. Jun 09 18:22
schestowitz I try to dodge Flash where it’s possible. Jun 09 18:22
schestowitz Huh?! They throttle by protocol? Isn’t that illegal? Jun 09 18:22
Sam1338 I guess not. Jun 09 18:22
Sam1338 http://www.azureuswiki.com/in… judging by this, BT is the worst ISP EVER Jun 09 18:23
Sam1338 “throttles non-HTTP traffic” Jun 09 18:23
Sam1338 limits bandwidth during certain times of the day: yes Jun 09 18:23
Sam1338 limits BitTorrent bandwidth: yes Jun 09 18:23
Sam1338 I can’t get around the poor speeds. Jun 09 18:24
schestowitz That’s terrible. I’m glad that I still get campus-level iInternet Jun 09 18:24
schestowitz 100 MBS Jun 09 18:24
Sam1338 I can only download large linux isos at night :( Jun 09 18:24
Sam1338 Even then it is quite slow. Jun 09 18:24
Sam1338 I’m moving to Spain very soon. Jun 09 18:25
Sam1338 To Madrid. Jun 09 18:25
Sam1338 I bet ISPs are less evil over there. Jun 09 18:25
schestowitz The US gets worse too. Comcast for starters. Jun 09 18:25
schestowitz But anyway, a risk to Linux ISOs is another thing worth exploring because it related to IPR (copyrights), which is exploited to stifle competition (again) Jun 09 18:26
Sam1338 zomfg Jun 09 18:27
Sam1338 Yeah so I am a Phoronix reader as it has some quite good articles there, but I am by no means a hardware enthusiast with a super powerful water cooling machine or whatever. I’ve also lived in the UK all my life but will probably move to Spain with my mother and her boyfriend quite soon. Jun 09 18:29
schestowitz That would need to get you interested in cooling machines. Jun 09 18:29
Sam1338 I’m going to upgrade my graphics card later on this year so I’ve been reading Phoronix articles on the open source ati progress. Jun 09 18:29
Sam1338 Why, because it’s hot in Spain? Jun 09 18:30
schestowitz The benchmarks on the site have always been unique.. Someone needed to do it. It has partly encouraged GPU makers to seriously consider Linux as well. Jun 09 18:30
schestowitz Yes. I hardly make use of my ATI card. It’s just used for dual-heading (4000 pixels in width) Jun 09 18:31
Sam1338 I threw away my ati card and got an nvidia card last year because the performance was TERRIBLE. Jun 09 18:31
Sam1338 I’m thinking of making the switch back and making my computer 100% open source some time. Jun 09 18:32
schestowitz NVIDIA might go open source soon. Micheal told me. Jun 09 18:32
Sam1338 With the exception of a few games :) Jun 09 18:32
Sam1338 I wish. Jun 09 18:33
Sam1338 Who’s Michael? Jun 09 18:33
schestowitz I hardly play games. I was addicted to some and learned my lessons. :-) Jun 09 18:33
schestowitz The Phoronix chap. Jun 09 18:33
Sam1338 Ati already has fully functional open source drivers for a lot of their graphics cards, Nvidia has a lot of catching up to do. Jun 09 18:33
Sam1338 I get addicted to games. Jun 09 18:34
Sam1338 Especially the ones where you ‘lvl up’. Jun 09 18:34
schestowitz Intel wants to kill both (AMD and NVIDIA), but that’s another story. Jun 09 18:34
Sam1338 ut2k4-rpg is what I’m addicted to atm Jun 09 18:34
schestowitz Free software or proprietary? Jun 09 18:34
Sam1338 Intel’s graphics are so slow though. Jun 09 18:35
schestowitz I can’t remember because of UT3 Jun 09 18:35
Sam1338 Proprietary :( Jun 09 18:35
schestowitz I think that’s… oh, yeah… and the Microsoft rumours came. Jun 09 18:35
Sam1338 UT3 doesn’t run on Linux :( I got it working in Wine but not very well, unplayable really. Jun 09 18:35
schestowitz That too is something we covered in BoycottNovell. Assuming there’s substance to this, it’s part of the pattern. Jun 09 18:35
*Sam1338 plans to remove the words “contrib non-free” from his /etc/apt/sources.list around the time of Lenny’s finished release. Jun 09 18:40
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[H]omer Hi Jun 09 21:27
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moparx hey Jun 09 21:50
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dsmith_ ok roy, I asked my question regardinf lenovo and freedos being withdrawn, he is going to find out for me Jun 09 23:33
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    The phony president who has the audacity to claim there's a budget gap is issuing millions of euros for his enablers to enjoy; weeks ahead of the next meeting of national delegates the Central Staff Committee (CSC) tells them: "Events show that the delegations’ concerns about functional allowances have materialised. The lack of transparency and inflation of the budget envelope gives rise to the suspicion that high management is pursuing a policy of self-service at the expense of EPO staff, which is difficult to reconcile with the Office’s claimed cost-saving policy, and to the detriment of the whole Organisation."

  16. Video: Making the Internet a Better Place for People, Not Megacorporations

    Following that earlier list of suggested improvements for a freedom-respecting Internet, here's a video and outline

  17. Links 30/11/2021: KDE Plasma 5.23.4, 4MLinux 38.0, Long GitHub Downtime, and Microsoft's CEO Selling Away Shares

    Links for the day

  18. A Concise Manifesto For Freedom-Respecting Internet

    An informal list of considerations to make when reshaping the Internet to better serve people, not a few corporations that are mostly military contractors subsidised by the American taxpayers

  19. Freenode.net Becomes a 'Reddit Clone' and Freenode IRC is Back to Old Configurations After Flushing Down Decades' Worth of User/Channel Data and Locking/Shutting Out Longtime Users

    Freenode is having another go; after “chits” and “jobs” (among many other ideas) have clearly failed, and following the change of daemon (resulting in massive loss of data and even security issues associated with impersonation) as well as pointless rebrand as “Joseon”, the domain Freenode.net becomes something completely different and the IRC network reopens to all

  20. Jack Dorsey's Decision is a Wake-up Call: Social Control Media is Just a Toxic Bubble

    The state of the World Wide Web (reliability, preservation, accessibility, compatibility etc.) was worsened a lot more than a decade ago; with social control media that’s nowadays just a pile of JavaScript programs we’re basically seeing the Web gradually turning into another Adobe Flash (but this time they tell us it’s a “standard”), exacerbating an already-oversized ‘bubble economy’ where companies operate at a loss while claiming to be worth hundreds of billions (USD) and generally serve imperialistic objectives by means of manipulation like surveillance, selective curation, and censorship

  21. IRC Proceedings: Monday, November 29, 2021

    IRC logs for Monday, November 29, 2021

  22. Links 29/11/2021: NuTyX 21.10.5 and CrossOver 21.1.0

    Links for the day

  23. This Apt Has Super Dumbass Powers. Linus Sebastian and Pop_OS!

    Guest post by Ryan, reprinted with permission

  24. [Meme] Trying to Appease Provocateurs and Borderline Trolls

    GNU/Linux isn’t just a clone of Microsoft Windows and it oughtn’t be a clone of Microsoft Windows, either; some people set themselves up for failure, maybe by intention

  25. Centralised Git Hosting Has a Business Model Which is Hostile Towards Developers' Interests (in Microsoft's Case, It's an Attack on Reciprocal Licensing and Persistent Manipulation)

    Spying, censoring, and abusing projects/developers/users are among the perks Microsoft found in GitHub; the E.E.E.-styled takeover is being misused for perception manipulation and even racism, so projects really need to take control of their hosting (outsourcing is risky and very expensive in the long run)

  26. Links 29/11/2021: FWUPD's 'Best Known Configuration' and Glimpse at OpenZFS 3.0

    Links for the day

  27. President Biden Wants to Put Microsofter in Charge of the Patent Office, Soon to Penalise Patent Applicants Who Don't Use Microsoft's Proprietary Formats

    The tradition of GAFAM or GIAFAM inside the USPTO carries on (e.g. Kappos and Lee; Kappos lobbies for Microsoft and IBM, whereas Lee now works for Amazon/Bezos after a career at Google); it's hard to believe anymore that the USPTO exists to serve innovators rather than aggressive monopolists, shielding their territory by patent threats (lawsuits or worse aggression) and cross-licensing that's akin to a cartel

  28. Microsoft GitHub Exposé — Part VIII — Mr. Graveley's Long Career Serving Microsoft's Agenda (Before Hiring by Microsoft to Work on GitHub's GPL Violations Machine)

    Balabhadra (Alex) Graveley was promoting .NET (or Mono) since his young days; his current job at Microsoft is consistent with past harms to GNU/Linux, basically pushing undesirable (except to Microsoft) things to GNU/Linux users; Tomboy used to be the main reason for distro ISOs to include Mono

  29. Dr. Andy Farnell on Teaching Cybersecurity in an Age of 'Fake Security'

    By Dr. Andy Farnell

  30. IRC Proceedings: Sunday, November 28, 2021

    IRC logs for Sunday, November 28, 2021

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