Bonum Certa Men Certa

What is This... Munchkins Again?

The following conversation took place just minutes ago in the public IRC channel. It involved "yuhong", who has been defending Microsoft or its products in this Web site for quite some time. He does this in other sites like Roughly Drafted. Here is a complete, as-is, log from his latest appearance (context here). His IRC software gave away the IP address.




*yuhong (n=chatzill@pool-71-188-245-175.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net) has joined #boycottnovellNov 10 00:12
yuhongRemember the "revisionist" thing?Nov 10 00:12
yuhongI think that it isn't that it was revisionist, but it was that they are bad excuses.Nov 10 00:13
schestowitzWhat do you mean?Nov 10 00:13
schestowitzBy the way, are you in Seattle?Nov 10 00:14
yuhongYes, I am.Nov 10 00:14
schestowitzAny relation to some company there?Nov 10 00:14
schestowitzJust curious, that's all..Nov 10 00:14
yuhongNo, but you said that the DR/MS thing was revisionist.Nov 10 00:14
schestowitzWait.Nov 10 00:15
yuhongI think it was just a bad excuse.Nov 10 00:15
schestowitzAre you using Linux where you work? I'm curious.Nov 10 00:15
yuhongNo.Nov 10 00:15
schestowitzAny connection to another company in WA?Nov 10 00:15
yuhongNo.Nov 10 00:15
schestowitzOh, okay.Nov 10 00:15
yuhongAnyway, back to DR/MS.Nov 10 00:16
yuhong you said that the DR/MS thing was revisionist.Nov 10 00:16
yuhongI think it was just a bad excuse.Nov 10 00:16
schestowitzMaybe just a coincidence then (that you always defend Microsoft and also connect from Seattle, Washington)Nov 10 00:16
schestowitzNo, not back to DR-DOS.Nov 10 00:16
yuhongI don't always defend MS.Nov 10 00:16
schestowitzYou're trying to change the subject, why?Nov 10 00:16
schestowitzWhen do you not defend them?Nov 10 00:16
yuhongI admit that freedom is a real advantage of open source software.Nov 10 00:16
schestowitzHave you tried GNU/Linux?Nov 10 00:17
yuhongYes I did.Nov 10 00:17
schestowitzWhich distros do you like?Nov 10 00:17
yuhongI am not sure yet.Nov 10 00:17
schestowitzWhich did you try?Nov 10 00:17
yuhongUbuntu.Nov 10 00:17
yuhongIn a VM.Nov 10 00:18
schestowitzNice.Nov 10 00:18
yuhongBut I joined the channel in the first place because I was thinking of the DR/MS.Nov 10 00:18
yuhongI don't think it was revisionist, just that it was a bad excuse.Nov 10 00:19
schestowitzI just notice that you also defend Microsoft in Roughly drafted.Nov 10 00:19
yuhongI often do.Nov 10 00:19
schestowitzE.g. in "You do have some good points about the limitations of security in modern OSes, but the comparison is fundementally unfair. The iPhone’s OS should really be compared against things like Windows Mobile and Windows CE, NOT desktop or server versions of Windows." < http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2007/10/23/kim-z... >Nov 10 00:19
schestowitzWhy?Nov 10 00:19
schestowitzIt was not an excuse though.Nov 10 00:20
schestowitzIt was technical sabotage.Nov 10 00:20
schestowitzI notice that you also blog in Microsoft's space... http://yuhong386.spaces...Nov 10 00:21
schestowitzOops.Nov 10 00:21
schestowitzThat's someone else.Nov 10 00:21
schestowitzWait, is this you? http://yuhong386.spaces.live.com/?...Nov 10 00:23
schestowitzyuhong: are you there?Nov 10 00:23
schestowitzyuhong??Nov 10 00:23
*yuhong has quit ("ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.3/2008092417]")Nov 10 00:28

Recent Techrights' Posts

Last Week's EPO Strike Was the Biggest (Highest Participation Rate), Hours Ago General Assembly Discussed Next (Growing) Intensity of Strikes
Well done and well attended
 
The New Layoffs: 'Silent Layoffs', 'Secret Layoffs', 'Quiet Layoffs', 'Passive Layoffs' 'Stealth Layoffs', and Unannounced Layoffs Disguised as Return-to-Office (RTO Mandates)
The US needs to revisit and fix the WARN Act
EPO "Cocaine Communication Manager" - Part IX - Cocaine Addicts in Charge of the EPO Attacking Families of EPO Staff
Things like being high-profile and being a serious drug addict aren't opposites
What Feminism in Science Means (Codes of Conduct Don't Tackle the Real Issues)
Universality matters, more so in a project or community that's said to build the "universal operating system" (Debian)
SLAPP Censorship - Part 21 Out of 200: It's About Behaviour Online, Not How Much Money From Shadowy Third Parties Gets Spent on Lawyers and Two Barristers
75+ KG of legal papers, 2 cases, 2 barristers (one hiding in the metadata) and maybe two law firms (also hiding in the metadata) against two modest people in Manchester seems disproportionate and vindicative
Links 24/03/2026: "Airports on ICE" and "Have You Paid Your “Intuit Tax”?"
Links for the day
Gemini Links 24/03/2026: Slop Interview and Why Slop Makes Lousy Code
Links for the day
Richard Stallman to Give Public Talk This Thursday at the University of Bologna (Italy)
Hardly the first time he speaks in Bologna
Over at Tux Machines...
GNU/Linux news for the past day
IRC Proceedings: Monday, March 23, 2026
IRC logs for Monday, March 23, 2026
Gemini Links 23/03/2026: "Mandatory" Bad Things and Dangers of Perfection Aspirations
Links for the day
SLAPP Censorship - Part 20 Out of 200: All Roads Lead to Rome and to GAFAM Funding
Now about 10% into this series
Mass Layoffs at HashiCorp, IBM Hid Them
The media did not mention those layoffs
Microsoft Downgraded on Concerns (Lack of Growth) Amid Silent Layoffs in 2026
The press isn't functioning anymore
Links 23/03/2026: Gulf Water at Risk, Heatwave in Malaysia
Links for the day
Slop Means False, New Article by Cybershow
"We are living in a world that is rapidly divesting from reality."
Debianism election 2026 community poll created, everybody can vote
Reprinted with permission from Daniel Pocock
Links 23/03/2026: "Shocking Peter Thiel Antichrist Lectures", Robert Mueller Remembered
Links for the day
The Scandal Bigger Than IBM/Red Hat Layoffs is the de Facto "Media Blackout" About Those Layoffs
So we have a media crisis, aside from the economic crises
Gemini Links 23/03/2026: Geminispace/Elpher Enhancement and the Cerberus Cinco
Links for the day
Fear is Not a Legitimate Factor
Smart people know that trying to prevent moral people from doing the "Right Thing" will backfire
Fuel Autonomy and What It Teaches Us About Software Autonomy (or Software Freedom)
Need we wait until a "software Pearl Harbor" or protect ourselves proactively by weaning ourselves off of GAFAMware?
Scheduled Maintenance This Coming Wednesday
Other than that, all is the same and we carry on as usual
Most Press Articles About IBM Are LLM Slop, Sometimes With Slop Images
IBM basically laid off almost 1,000 people last week [...] At the moment about 75% of the 'articles' we see about IBM (in recent days) are some kind of slop
Links 23/03/2026: Security Breaches, Energy Shortages, Another SRA Scandal, and Patents on Nature
Links for the day
Over at Tux Machines...
GNU/Linux news for the past day
IRC Proceedings: Sunday, March 22, 2026
IRC logs for Sunday, March 22, 2026
Streisand Effect and Justice
This weekend this site has served over 8 million Web requests
Gemini Links 22/03/2026: "Woman of Tomorrow" and "First Steps in Geminispace"
Links for the day
SLAPP Censorship - Part 19 Out of 200: They Were Ill-prepared for Tough Questions in Cross-Examination
Very ill-prepared for the deteriorating situation caused by their clients' past behaviour towards many people, including high-profile figures who offered to testify
The Media Sold Out to Slop Bros
If you wish for the hype to stop, then stop participating in it
EPO Strike a Week From Now, After That Strikes Can Become Permanent
A week from tomorrow there will be another strike
The Only Non-IBM Staff in Fedora Council/Leadership Attacks Booting Freedom (Just Like the Master Wants)
Last week IBM laid off almost 1,000 people in Confluent and the media didn't write anything about it, so don't expect anyone in what's left of the media to comment on Fedora's demise and silent layoffs at Red Hat
Just Like a Founder of XBox Said, Microsoft XBox is Collapsing, Management Continue to Jump Ship
Nowadays Microsoft tries to promote this idea that Windows is XBox and XBox is Windows
Links 22/03/2026: Slop Triggers Emergency at Meta, Energy Prices Rise Sharply
Links for the day
Links 22/03/2026: Microsoft 'Open' 'AI' in Legal Trouble (Plagiarism, Distortion, Misrepresentation); Facebook/Meta Kills Off "Horizon Worlds"
Links for the day
Racism Dressed Up as "Choice"
Racism is rampant at IBM
Probably an All-Time Record
Our investment in our own SSG is paying off
Your Site Should Implement Its Own Search (Before It's Too Late)
GAFAM was never trustworthy
Gemini Links 22/03/2026: LLM Slop Attacks USENET, Announcing Pig (New Game in Gemini Protocol)
Links for the day
Over at Tux Machines...
GNU/Linux news for the past day
IRC Proceedings: Saturday, March 21, 2026
IRC logs for Saturday, March 21, 2026