12.10.08

IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: December 9th, 2008 – Part 2

Posted in IRC Logs at 4:20 am by Dr. Roy Schestowitz

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PetoKraus well, if i was using pen and paper, i’d be able to. Dec 09 14:14
PetoKraus with sage – no! Dec 09 14:14
PetoKraus it locks the order fields while customer details are empty Dec 09 14:14
PetoKraus WHY?!? Dec 09 14:14
PetoKraus it’s especially excruciating with polish and arabic people Dec 09 14:14
Eruaran haha Dec 09 14:15
Eruaran aaahahahaha Dec 09 14:15
PetoKraus their slashed l’s and t’s; and 50+ long character names Dec 09 14:15
twitter uh oh, M$ is trying to keep it’s vendor lock as the old stores fail. Dec 09 14:15
*Eruaran ROFL’s Dec 09 14:15
PetoKraus good thing is – no per user printer settings Dec 09 14:15
Eruaran PetoKraus: http://www.tbssoftware.com…. Dec 09 14:15
PetoKraus technical user has the same default printer as sales user Dec 09 14:15
PetoKraus meaning…. well, i guess it’s okay in small shop, where i can just walk trough the shop and get the papers from sales printer if i forget to set it manually Dec 09 14:16
twitter good of Bishop to notice. Dec 09 14:16
PetoKraus now, if sales printer was on different site, then i’d be screwed! Dec 09 14:16
Eruaran haha Dec 09 14:16
PetoKraus obviously, once you close invoice window, you can’t reprint it… Dec 09 14:16
Eruaran What we have here Dec 09 14:16
Eruaran Is a Sage user Dec 09 14:16
Eruaran Notice the furrowed brow Dec 09 14:17
Eruaran And the signs of early ageing Dec 09 14:17
Eruaran “make the bad man stop” Dec 09 14:18
Eruaran Sage users can often be found muttering unintelligable babble to themselves Dec 09 14:19
Eruaran Learning curve for TBS software: 1 hour Dec 09 14:19
Eruaran Learning curve for Sage: 1 year Dec 09 14:19
PetoKraus the great deploying decision of my boss “who knows better” was to get M$ Server 2008. With 2 remote connections allowed only. Uh oh. makes a bit of a problem when we’ve got 4 computers we need to run our DB frontend on… (obviously, there is a way how to do it on client – server basis in sage, i hope) Dec 09 14:19
PetoKraus Eruaran: it’s not learning curve Dec 09 14:20
Eruaran (and thats no exaggeration you know) Dec 09 14:20
PetoKraus it’s “finding new amusing ways how to make the process of invoicing stuff longer” Dec 09 14:20
Eruaran lol Dec 09 14:20
Eruaran yes Dec 09 14:20
Eruaran It is truly British. Dec 09 14:20
PetoKraus Since sage sucks so much, we are using double database system for tech repairs Dec 09 14:20
schestowitz twitter: Bishop is usually OK. He’s not strongly pro-MS Dec 09 14:20
schestowitz PJ likes him too Dec 09 14:20
PetoKraus Filemaker PRO (godness!!!) for the tech reports Dec 09 14:21
PetoKraus and Sage for actual invoices Dec 09 14:21
Eruaran PetoKraus: we suck everything into Access for reports Dec 09 14:21
PetoKraus you know, when you think filemaker pro was better than this shit Dec 09 14:21
Eruaran Sage is just too slow Dec 09 14:21
PetoKraus then it’s real shit Dec 09 14:21
Eruaran PetoKraus: you know what database Sage uses right ? Dec 09 14:21
PetoKraus what? Dec 09 14:22
Eruaran Paradox Dec 09 14:22
PetoKraus it does use database? Dec 09 14:22
PetoKraus i thought it’s textfiles Dec 09 14:22
Eruaran haha Dec 09 14:22
PetoKraus or a huge linked list with nice OOP overhead Dec 09 14:22
PetoKraus obviously, one way linked list Dec 09 14:22
Eruaran I’m fairly sure its using Paradox for its back end… and they’ve never updated it Dec 09 14:22
Eruaran Its way too complicated Dec 09 14:23
PetoKraus   you are kidding Dec 09 14:23
PetoKraus it runs on DOS! Dec 09 14:23
Eruaran serioius Dec 09 14:23
PetoKraus oh god Dec 09 14:23
PetoKraus no fkn wonder Dec 09 14:23
Eruaran :) Dec 09 14:23
Eruaran now it all becomes clear eh ? Dec 09 14:23
PetoKraus i mean, i HATE mysql myself Dec 09 14:23
PetoKraus i just can’t be bothered with it even on my small page Dec 09 14:23
twitter Here’s a funny one, ” if we stop, if we’re no longer more functional, if we’re no longer a time saver, if we’re no longer compatible, then that other stuff will gain traction.” – Steve Balmer 3/26/06 http://www.forbes.com/home/enterprisetech/2006/… Dec 09 14:24
PetoKraus but this is even worse Dec 09 14:24
twitter Vista, full stop. Dec 09 14:24
Eruaran PetoKraus: Sage is a massively crappy front end for an ancient database that relies on pre-TCP/IP networking to actually work as some mildly tolerable speed Dec 09 14:24
PetoKraus yeah well Dec 09 14:25
PetoKraus you know, if only they get the UI right Dec 09 14:25
PetoKraus then screw the backend, i can wait Dec 09 14:25
Eruaran Most accounting software is horrible Dec 09 14:26
Eruaran If MYOB and Quicken are demons… Sage is Satan Dec 09 14:27
Eruaran *daemons Dec 09 14:27
PetoKraus yeah well Dec 09 14:28
PetoKraus this makes computing science bad name Dec 09 14:28
PetoKraus luckily, sage is not OSS, that would be pretty awkward ;) Dec 09 14:28
Eruaran So much proprietary software is truly so bad its just a massive scam Dec 09 14:29
Eruaran If Sage was FOSS it would have been abandoned and left unmaintained back in the 90′s Dec 09 14:29
Eruaran Or rewritten from scratch Dec 09 14:30
Eruaran no… it would have been buried Dec 09 14:30
Eruaran It would be too much of an embarrassment Dec 09 14:30
Eruaran There’s this software that one of our clients uses, lawperfect I think it is… it really is little more than some Word templates Dec 09 14:31
Eruaran They pay thousands for it Dec 09 14:31
Eruaran macros and things Dec 09 14:32
Eruaran Adds functionality that Word doesn’t have Dec 09 14:32
schestowitz twitter: yuck, Daniel Lyons. Dec 09 14:32
schestowitz Got anything not propagated by a talking point? ;-) Dec 09 14:33
Eruaran Functionality which, incidentally WordPerfect has. Dec 09 14:33
Eruaran They wont switch… and I bet you can guess why Dec 09 14:33
Eruaran Formats Dec 09 14:34
Eruaran Its too much hassle Dec 09 14:34
schestowitz Lockin Dec 09 14:34
Eruaran yes Dec 09 14:34
schestowitz A format is the product from Mcirosoft Dec 09 14:34
schestowitz And some program ‘around’ it Dec 09 14:34
schestowitz OOXML Dec 09 14:34
schestowitz OOXML 2007 Dec 09 14:34
twitter Yes, when you look back at Patent FUD, Lyons is the man pushing it. Dec 09 14:34
schestowitz OOXML 14 is coming Dec 09 14:34
schestowitz . Dec 09 14:34
schestowitz There will soon be a product called Live OOXML from Microsoft. Dec 09 14:34
Eruaran they’re not even going to use Office 2007 Dec 09 14:34
schestowitz Students get cheap OOXML drugs Dec 09 14:35
schestowitz They then bring their OOXML skills to work, which can’t use office suites. Dec 09 14:35
schestowitz Instead of productivity software they use this thing called OOXML Dec 09 14:35
Eruaran It gets me to thinking… if the functionality they need can be found in OpenOffice, and support for .doc is good… well… Dec 09 14:35
schestowitz Eruaran: what is Office? Dec 09 14:35
schestowitz The software is just some MS-OOXML thing… Dec 09 14:36
schestowitz A bigger variant of some crime called OOXML Dec 09 14:36
Eruaran well Dec 09 14:36
Eruaran you know what I eman Dec 09 14:36
schestowitz OOXML means bribery, blackmail, sabotage, lies, and vote-rigging. Dec 09 14:36
Eruaran *mean Dec 09 14:36
Eruaran yes Dec 09 14:36
schestowitz You know.. Dec 09 14:37
Eruaran It backfires though Dec 09 14:37
schestowitz If MOOX wasn’t American.. Dec 09 14:37
schestowitz Then I bet Bush & Vabinet would declare some kind of war it… to ‘liberate’ it. Dec 09 14:37
schestowitz *Cabinet Dec 09 14:37
schestowitz In fact, many nations are still not gutsy enough to stand up to abuse. Dec 09 14:37
Eruaran All average users notice is that .docx causes them headaches Dec 09 14:37
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schestowitz Some of them get poisoned from the inside (Microsoft cronies), not just US DOJ (aka MS DOJ) Dec 09 14:38
schestowitz Eruaran: well, they have to move to headache (.docx), says Microsoft Dec 09 14:38
schestowitz It’s the onyl way to break compatibility with ‘evil’ things like OOo Dec 09 14:38
Eruaran OOo is getting more popular Dec 09 14:38
schestowitz That’s just another reasons MSOOXML is abuse Dec 09 14:39
schestowitz It’s a case of dodging goalposts with a misleading label and battered standards-making framework. Dec 09 14:39
Eruaran So often when I ask someone why they use OOo the first thing they say is, “EXPORT TO PDF!” Dec 09 14:39
schestowitz 2 million download per week now. Dec 09 14:39
schestowitz It used to be 1.1 a year ago Dec 09 14:39
schestowitz So it almost doubled, probably due to: 1) depression Dec 09 14:39
Eruaran Company director asked my why I was using OOo Dec 09 14:40
schestowitz 2) Crackdowns on what the pirates at Microsoft call copyright infingement Dec 09 14:40
Eruaran I said, “EXPORT TO PDF!” Dec 09 14:40
Eruaran :P Dec 09 14:40
Eruaran And… Dec 09 14:40
schestowitz I trust TeX more Dec 09 14:40
schestowitz Bob Sutor just wrote about it in his blog. Dec 09 14:40
Eruaran “calc works better for me than excel” Dec 09 14:40
schestowitz LaTeX lasts for many years… I don’t know about anything else. Dec 09 14:40
Eruaran If you saw how many PDF files I receive and send every day… Dec 09 14:41
schestowitz Microsoft manufcatured anti-OOo and Apps studies Dec 09 14:41
schestowitz They used all the shills that they always use Dec 09 14:41
schestowitz IDG, Gartner, and Burton Dec 09 14:41
Eruaran the usual suspects Dec 09 14:41
schestowitz They even used former Microsoft Office people who started their ‘own’ bogus companies. Dec 09 14:41
schestowitz For that too, I think Microsoft should be embargoed Dec 09 14:42
Eruaran once a softie always a softie Dec 09 14:42
schestowitz They put to ridicule the way the industry operates Dec 09 14:42
Eruaran yes Dec 09 14:42
schestowitz I’m still just trying to explain this to people by gathering evidence Dec 09 14:42
Eruaran I would like to see the European Commission revoke their licence to trade Dec 09 14:42
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schestowitz They got poisoned Dec 09 14:42
Eruaran The EC ? Dec 09 14:42
schestowitz As I said before, they ruin opposition from the inside Dec 09 14:43
schestowitz Watch what they did to Quinn. Dec 09 14:43
Eruaran ffs Dec 09 14:43
schestowitz Yes, EC too Dec 09 14:43
schestowitz They attack them Dec 09 14:43
*Eruaran bangs head against wall Dec 09 14:43
schestowitz They attack Kroes… smear campaigns and all Dec 09 14:43
schestowitz Scam like Jonathan Zuck at ACT play these games. Dec 09 14:43
Eruaran I like Kroes Dec 09 14:43
schestowitz They also ruined critics in ISO Dec 09 14:43
schestowitz Then there’s COmpTIA and other spinners. Dec 09 14:43
schestowitz I can point you tyo evidence. Dec 09 14:43
Eruaran They also form lobby groups Dec 09 14:43
schestowitz Kroes complained about the smear campaign. Dec 09 14:43
schestowitz They also vilied her commision, by proxy of course. Dec 09 14:44
Eruaran of course Dec 09 14:44
schestowitz The criminals from Intel tried to call EU “anti-American” Dec 09 14:44
Eruaran hah Dec 09 14:44
schestowitz To Otellini, anti-crime is anti-American. Dec 09 14:44
schestowitz It’s more convenient to put it that way Dec 09 14:44
schestowitz As though America is crime Dec 09 14:44
schestowitz Eruaran: yes, they create new lobbies Dec 09 14:45
Eruaran For that I’d say, “no license to trade for you !” Dec 09 14:45
schestowitz One of the newer ones is called voicesofinnovation, which is a site created and accomodated by the Vole Dec 09 14:45
schestowitz It’s supposed to legalise swpatents in EU Dec 09 14:45
schestowitz They call it pseudo-grassrots, aka AstroTurfing. Dec 09 14:45
Eruaran Someone commented in a forum once, as if it was a threat, that Microsoft should pull out of the EU Dec 09 14:46
schestowitz Here is an example I wrote about some hours ago: http://boycottnovell.com/2008/12… Dec 09 14:46
Eruaran Someone else replied, “promise ?” Dec 09 14:46
schestowitz If EU says “no” to Microsoft, it’s not simple Dec 09 14:46
schestowitz Mifrosoft is a political beat… it unleashes the hounds. Dec 09 14:46
schestowitz Based on experience. Dec 09 14:46
schestowitz See the reference about “Spinners” here: http://boycottnovell.com/2007/10/23/… Dec 09 14:47
Eruaran Well I think the presence of Linux in all markets will only increase Dec 09 14:47
Eruaran This will change the market Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz Recent: Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz EC probes OOXML standards-setting process Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz ,—-[ Quote ] Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz | A spokesman for the European Commissioner for Competition, Neelie Kroes, told Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz | The Register that regulators were continuing to scrutinise interoperability Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz | issues related to Microsoft’s products following complaints from the Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz | Committee for Interoperable Systems (ECIS) group. Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz | Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz | As part of that process, the EC formally contacted a number of national Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz | standards bodies, including the Norwegian Standards Institute (NSI), Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz | requesting more details about possible irregularities in the OOXML Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz | standardisation process. Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz | Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz | [...] Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz | Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz | “It must be stressed that it is not the Commission’s intention to influence Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz | the outcome of this process, but the Commission considers it essential to Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz | ensure that European competition law is not violated in the course of the Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz | standard setting process,” he said in an email to El Reg. Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz | Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz | In January the EC began formal anti-trust probes against Microsoft in two Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz | cases where it was alleged that the multinational firm had abused its strong Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz | market position. As part of the investigation into the first case, the Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz | Commission said that it would scrutinise OOXML on the grounds that the Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz | specification doesn’t work with those of competitors. Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz `—- Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/04/04/oo… Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz Related: Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz EU Initiates Investigation Against Microsoft OOXML Push Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz ,—-[ Quote ] Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz | But with Steve Ballmer taking over as CEO, there was supposed to be a kinder, Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz | gentler Microsoft – one that would play nicely with its competitors. When Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz | antitrust regulators in turn challenged this new Microsoft, it issued not Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz | challenges to fight to the end to prove that it had done nothing illegal, but Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz | statements promising to “cooperate fully.” Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz | Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz | But at the same time, Microsoft is still a tough competitor. As Microsoft’s Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz | Director of Corporate Standards Jason Matusow famously warned at his blog Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz | last year: Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz | Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz | Make no mistake; all parties are looking at the full pict Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz Shit. Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz Recent: Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz EC probes OOXML standards-setting process Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz ,—-[ Quote ] Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz | A spokesman for the European Commissioner for Competition, Neelie Kroes, told Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz | The Register that regulators were continuing to scrutinise interoperability Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz | issues related to Microsoft’s products following complaints from the Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz | Committee for Interoperable Systems (ECIS) group. Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz | Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz | As part of that process, the EC formally contacted a number of national Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz | standards bodies, including the Norwegian Standards Institute (NSI), Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz | requesting more details about possible irregularities in the OOXML Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz | standardisation process. Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz | Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz | [...] Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz | Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz | “It must be stressed that it is not the Commission’s intention to influence Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz | the outcome of this process, but the Commission considers it essential to Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz | ensure that European competition law is not violated in the course of the Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz | standard setting process,” he said in an email to El Reg. Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz | Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz | In January the EC began formal anti-trust probes against Microsoft in two Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz | cases where it was alleged that the multinational firm had abused its strong Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz | market position. As part of the investigation into the first case, the Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz | Commission said that it would scrutinise OOXML on the grounds that the Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz | specification doesn’t work with those of competitors. Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz `—- Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/… Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz Related: Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz EU Initiates Investigation Against Microsoft OOXML Push Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz ,—-[ Quote ] Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz | But with Steve Ballmer taking over as CEO, there was supposed to be a kinder, Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz | gentler Microsoft – one that would play nicely with its competitors. When Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz | antitrust regulators in turn challenged this new Microsoft, it issued not Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz | challenges to fight to the end to prove that it had done nothing illegal, but Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz | statements promising to “cooperate fully.” Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz | Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz | But at the same time, Microsoft is still a tough competitor. As Microsoft’s Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz | Director of Corporate Standards Jason Matusow famously warned at his blog Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz | last year: Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz | Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz | Make no mistake; all parties are looking at the full pict Dec 09 14:47
Eruaran And erode M$ profit Dec 09 14:47
schestowitz The program I use is messing up Dec 09 14:48
schestowitz Is Microsoft Now Banned from EU Contracts? Dec 09 14:48
schestowitz http://www.computerworlduk.com/toolbox/op… Dec 09 14:48
schestowitz Euro MP thinks Microsoft should be banned from government contracts Dec 09 14:48
schestowitz http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/ne… Dec 09 14:48
schestowitz Green MEP says Microsoft should be excluded from EU contract awarding procedure Dec 09 14:48
schestowitz http://www.heise.de/english/new… Dec 09 14:48
Eruaran um Dec 09 14:50
Eruaran heh Dec 09 14:50
schestowitz They are not just thugs. Dec 09 14:50
schestowitz They break the law, but their posture in the media has critics characterised badly. Dec 09 14:51
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schestowitz Solution? I know of none. In many people’s mind, Microsoft is some company whose hero ‘investor’ is a philanthropist (Microsoft-owned media sells them this ‘story’) Dec 09 14:51
Eruaran the philanthropist whos foundation invests in the very companies that are killing the children they send medicines to Dec 09 14:52
schestowitz Yes, but you can’t say that Dec 09 14:54
schestowitz You’ll be attacked Dec 09 14:54
Eruaran too late Dec 09 14:54
schestowitz Brussels ploughs ahead with biofuel plans < http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/12… > Dec 09 14:54
schestowitz BillG loves money. “Get me into that and goddam, we’ll make so much money!” –BillG Dec 09 14:56
schestowitz http://boycottnovell.com/2007/… “It’s a “pot of gold,” he declares, pounding the conference table with his fists, triumphant and hungry and wired.” Dec 09 14:56
schestowitz ““Get me into that and goddam, we’ll make so much money!” Here is Microsoft in action. In just three hours, it laid plans to buy at least two companies, ditched an alliance with a major financial institution, opted for another and made major moves into “two incredible new worlds,” as Gates put it–home banking and sports entertainment. Another company might take months to accomplish as much.” Dec 09 14:57
schestowitz I hear that Bill’s partner in tax evasion (Warren) is the same… exploiting weak companies for money and then portrayed as a national hero because he has other people’s wealth. Dec 09 14:58
Eruaran Like how Microsoft ‘rescued’ Corel Dec 09 14:58
schestowitz Haha. Dec 09 14:58
schestowitz Ruined them Dec 09 14:58
schestowitz Same with Novell. Just wairt. Dec 09 14:58
schestowitz They are still /USing/ Novell, not SUing them Dec 09 14:59
Eruaran They will use Novell as long as Novell is useful to Microsoft’s interets Dec 09 15:00
schestowitz Yes. Corel got to close to massive success with Linux.. Microsoft had to ‘tame’ them… we wrote a lot about the similarities between Novell and Corel… just give Novell some more time to be used as the predator’s ‘sex slave’ Dec 09 15:01
schestowitz It’s an ongoing assimilation strategy.. making all companies just part of the Microsoft Movement rather than independent opposers to it. This means that all companies must use .NET (not Java and LAMP) and OOXML as the format of choice. Dec 09 15:03
Eruaran the whole reason that an abomination like “WAMP” exists Dec 09 15:04
schestowitz Hehe. Susan will be angry… http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/3281… Dec 09 15:05
schestowitz WAMP just means that Microsoft is losing. Dec 09 15:06
schestowitz It can’t make people assimilate fast enough… Google and IBM, for example, stand in the way Dec 09 15:06
Eruaran lol @ “Novell’s fairy godmother, Microsoft, was also among the losers” Dec 09 15:07
Eruaran I predict that Android will soon be running on the iPhone Dec 09 15:08
schestowitz Microsoft shoots itself in the foot (just in): http://boycottnovell.com/2008/12/09… Dec 09 15:10
schestowitz Hopefully they steer away from Novell. Dec 09 15:10
schestowitz Because Novell hijacked a conference there recently. Dec 09 15:10
Eruaran ooh part 2 Dec 09 15:10
schestowitz That’s what I imagined would happen Dec 09 15:11
schestowitz Mirosoft is squeezing the goose. Dec 09 15:11
schestowitz It needs -golden eggs- money Dec 09 15:11
schestowitz I wrote about this yesterday: http://boycottnovell.com/2008/12/… Dec 09 15:12
Eruaran I prophecy Microsoft will go into debt within 12 months Dec 09 15:12
schestowitz They’ll try to steer the defectors into the ‘pen’ (Novell), prepared for slaughtering with “patent royalties” Dec 09 15:12
schestowitz Eruaran: less Dec 09 15:13
schestowitz It’s almost there NOW Dec 09 15:13
schestowitz It has already approved it Dec 09 15:13
Eruaran I’m a prophet Dec 09 15:13
Eruaran ;) Dec 09 15:13
schestowitz http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=mozclient… Dec 09 15:13
schestowitz (catching up, in case you are curious) Dec 09 15:13
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Eruaran yes Dec 09 15:14
schestowitz Hey, _doug . You do know about MS and debt, right? I get attacked for mentionning this. It means it hits a nrve Dec 09 15:14
schestowitz If people say that Microsoft is a safe choice because it’s rich, tell them the truth about uncerain future. Dec 09 15:15
schestowitz Like SGO Dec 09 15:15
schestowitz SGI Dec 09 15:15
MinceR problem is, they won’t believe it Dec 09 15:19
MinceR there’s very little talk about m$ cooking the books afaict Dec 09 15:20
MinceR and most people don’t seem to realize that vista/vista7 marks the end Dec 09 15:20
schestowitz Yes Dec 09 15:21
schestowitz Many deceptions Dec 09 15:21
schestowitz One is that Microsoft’s press glorifies itself. Dec 09 15:21
schestowitz Intent: build perception that nobody gets fired or left out in the cold for buying Microsoft. Dec 09 15:21
schestowitz IBM understands this too Dec 09 15:21
schestowitz For contrast, see Sun. Very sad. Dec 09 15:21
MinceR what’s up with sun? Dec 09 15:21
schestowitz As for Vista 7,  I think I covered the briberies and manipulations around it. Dec 09 15:22
MinceR you have but most people don’t read BN :/ Dec 09 15:22
schestowitz Earlier today I saw the MS press repetition the party lines about Vista 7 being thin and set to be the Holy Ghost on sub-notebooks. Dec 09 15:22
MinceR but at least in some cases there are a lot of sources one can refer to. Dec 09 15:22
schestowitz I see people in other sites that link to ot. Dec 09 15:22
schestowitz It’s the least one can do whilst also exposing junk media that obeys market (read: money). Dec 09 15:23
schestowitz Marketing is lie. Truth is truth. Marketing pays, truth does not. Dec 09 15:23
Eruaran gtg Dec 09 15:24
Eruaran bbl Dec 09 15:24
schestowitz New: http://blogs.wsj.com/biztech/2008/12/0… see reference to Vista 7 Dec 09 15:25
schestowitz WSJ has some Microsoft moles like BenW Dec 09 15:25
schestowitz Microsoft bloggers dressed up in Vista Aero.. http://www.inanis.net/blog/index… (PHP) Dec 09 15:28
schestowitz Eeeek.. http://lunduke.com/?p=27 Dec 09 15:29
_doug BBC considers opening iPlayer technology to rivals Dec 09 15:34
_doug http://www.nma.co.uk/Articles/40743/BBC+… Dec 09 15:34
schestowitz Well, taxpayers paid for it Dec 09 15:38
schestowitz .But Microsoft still owns it, no? Dec 09 15:38
schestowitz zoobab: did you get mail from Brett Broesder Dec 09 15:41
schestowitz I asked them if it would be possible to interview Mr. Bergelt by mail. Maybe for BN or Datamation… we cover many of these issues, including OIN. Dec 09 15:43
_doug http://blog.ipdev.net/2007… Dec 09 15:44
schestowitz 2007? Dec 09 15:44
_doug “The other side of the coin is that the application uses my upstream connectivity to share files with other peers” Dec 09 15:47
_doug peer-to-peer to the desktop Dec 09 15:47
schestowitz Been there, done that. Skype too, AKAIK Dec 09 15:49
_doug Patents Act 1977: Patentability of computer programs .. Dec 09 15:58
_doug http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2008/12/wha… Dec 09 15:58
_doug “The Intellectual Property Office has previously recognised that an invention which either solves a technical problem external to the computer or solves “a technical problem within the computer” is not excluded” Dec 09 15:59
_doug Google Native Client Puts x86 On the Web .. Dec 09 16:10
_doug http://tech.slashdot.org/tech/0… Dec 09 16:10
schestowitz So I can run my apps on someone else’s computer? What about mine? Dec 09 16:12
_doug Dunno, might be an OS killer, if it ran fast enough .. Dec 09 16:26
_doug “enables x86 native code to be run securely inside a browser” Dec 09 16:27
_doug So people could compiler all their old apps for Google and sell them as software-as-a-service .. Dec 09 16:27
_doug “and suggests this in-browser Quake demo,” Dec 09 16:28
schestowitz Yes Dec 09 16:28
schestowitz Seems like it Dec 09 16:28
schestowitz Adobe took a similar route, but with plugins Dec 09 16:28
_doug “A Sandbox for Portable, Untrusted x86 Native Code,”, like ActiveX only it’s really secure and cross-platform, someone in Redmond must be having nightmares over this :] Dec 09 16:29
schestowitz Yes Dec 09 16:30
schestowitz I didn’t see before… haven’t seen it anywhere yet. Dec 09 16:30
schestowitz Slashdot must have been fast Dec 09 16:30
PetoKraus OS killer? Dec 09 16:31
PetoKraus how’d you boot? PXE? Dec 09 16:31
schestowitz Well, O/S by google’s def Dec 09 16:31
schestowitz Where O/S means ‘computer’ software Dec 09 16:31
schestowitz Lot of people still call “Linux” an operation system Dec 09 16:32
schestowitz it’s not. Dec 09 16:32
schestowitz It’s a platform, a kernel, a manager, a program Dec 09 16:32
PetoKraus i know, you don’t have to teach me FS basics ;) Dec 09 16:33
PetoKraus in retrospective, buying 4 bottles of pepsi wasn’t THAT good idea Dec 09 16:33
schestowitz iN wINTER?? Dec 09 16:35
schestowitz (oops. Caps). Fedora is an O/S. Dec 09 16:35
PetoKraus schestowitz: no, pepsi. Dec 09 16:35
_doug Google syncs bookmarks .. soon I won’t need anything but FF plugins :) Dec 09 16:37
_doug http://www.foxmarks.com/ Dec 09 16:37
PetoKraus well my criteria for a browser are – fast to load, standards compliant, adblocking, gnash support, renders properly with black theme Dec 09 16:39
schestowitz PITCH black? Dec 09 16:39
PetoKraus Gran Paradiso (ffx’s nick in Arch) meets them all, except of “fast to load” Dec 09 16:39
schestowitz I can never get past very dark shades of blue. Dec 09 16:39
PetoKraus schestowitz: even if i tried, i couldn’t use lighter theme… :/ Dec 09 16:40
PetoKraus the grayish tones with white letters strain my eyes much much less. Dec 09 16:41
PetoKraus it’s pretty personal, i guess… Dec 09 16:41
_doug Hackers Hijacked Large E-Bill Payment Site .. Dec 09 16:41
_doug http://voices.washingtonpost.com/secur… Dec 09 16:41
PetoKraus “hackers” Dec 09 16:41
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schestowitz fackers Dec 09 16:42
PetoKraus what’s trend micro doing anyway? Dec 09 16:42
PetoKraus what’s it’s product? Dec 09 16:42
PetoKraus analysis? Dec 09 16:42
schestowitz “Brian Krebs on Computer Security” Dec 09 16:42
schestowitz He should know the difference, no? Dec 09 16:43
schestowitz The same stupid journals that state “pirates” and “piracy” Dec 09 16:43
_doug http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/grap… Dec 09 16:43
schestowitz Trend Micro? Patents. Dec 09 16:43
schestowitz http://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/bo… Dec 09 16:44
PetoKraus oh Dec 09 16:44
PetoKraus another interesting feed to read, i guess Dec 09 16:44
PetoKraus right, why doesn’t liferea talk to my ffx and vice versa? Dec 09 16:46
schestowitz Set it up so that it does Dec 09 16:48
_doug “Drunken Pirate” MySpace pictures loses student job offer .. Dec 09 16:48
_doug http://voices.washingtonpost.com/securityfi… Dec 09 16:48
schestowitz KDE has bindings for that Dec 09 16:48
PetoKraus schestowitz: it used to work Dec 09 16:48
neighborlee schestowitz, http://mail.gnome.org/archives/foundation-l… < I found another one wanting to verify gnome’s position of mono/tomboy yadda..few days ago I searched latest release notes for gnome and saw nothing this time about tomboy so maybe its finally gone ?..anyway I know this is a year old post from rms but I never saw it until now Dec 09 16:49
neighborlee Unfortunately, the authors of that website are obstinate in their Dec 09 16:50
neighborlee indifference to the truth, < Jeff waugh of course ‘obstinately’ <lol> rebuttled that your website is against the truth..wow shock factor engaging ;) Dec 09 16:50
schestowitz Jeff is a weasel Dec 09 16:52
schestowitz Even some GNOME people no longer take him seriously. Dec 09 16:52
PetoKraus gosh that is stupid Dec 09 16:53
PetoKraus got it now Dec 09 16:53
neighborlee schestowitz, finally ,,great to hear that. Dec 09 16:53
PetoKraus bloody hell that thing is slow Dec 09 16:55
PetoKraus i mean, i know i am keeping cache of 500 feeds Dec 09 16:56
PetoKraus but still!!! nzkrgh! Dec 09 16:56
schestowitz Yes, feeds are an ass Dec 09 16:57
schestowitz Even in RSSOwl and Thunderbird it take so much CPU because of multi-threading. Dec 09 16:57
PetoKraus well, my PC is more IO limited Dec 09 16:59
PetoKraus the bad thing is – i can’t pop in more ram Dec 09 16:59
PetoKraus otherwise I guess i’d just mirror my /bin and /lib folders in ramdisk on every boot Dec 09 17:00
PetoKraus “Vista superfetch™©®” Dec 09 17:00
PetoKraus “If a wiki site exercises the relicensing option, that entails trusting Creative Commons rather than the Free Software Foundation regarding its future license changes. In theory one might consider this a matter of concern, but I think we can be confident that Creative Commons will follow its stated mission in the maintenance of its licenses. Millions of users trust Creative Commons for this, and I think we can do likewise.” Dec 09 17:02
PetoKraus didn’t he have some anti-CC speeches awhile ago? Dec 09 17:02
schestowitz Who did? Dec 09 17:03
schestowitz RMS? Dec 09 17:03
PetoKraus yeah Dec 09 17:04
_doug Novell could have done with some vision, leadership and backbone .. Dec 09 17:04
_doug http://www.newmobilecomputing.co… Dec 09 17:04
PetoKraus i *think* so, i recall him saying something about GPL being TOAO license… Dec 09 17:04
schestowitz He reconciled Dec 09 17:06
schestowitz http://www.movingtofreedom.org/2008/12/04/ri… Dec 09 17:06
_doug “in what was apparently a shock to only Roy at Boycott Novell, he says he has proof that Microsoft pays companies to recommend Windows.” Dec 09 17:09
_doug http://lxer.com/module/ne… Dec 09 17:09
neighborlee schestowitz, http://live.gnome.org/RoadMap < might not be mentioned (tomboy) on 224 release notes page but its here : http://live.gnome.org/RoadMap Dec 09 17:16
_doug What Are The Issues With Open Source Linux? Dec 09 17:16
_doug http://www.hackingalert.com/hackin… Dec 09 17:16
schestowitz “Since Microsoft has a huge chunk of the operating system’s market in the world, it is the first victim of hackers. But that doesn’t mean that Linux hacking doesn’t exist. Although is less common than it’s close sourced companion, there are several reasons why hackers try to hack machines with Linux.” Dec 09 17:20
schestowitz MYTH Dec 09 17:20
schestowitz Microsofter says: “I blogged that in  fact Apple’s increasing marketshare hadn’t led to more attacks—that Microsoft’s marketshare mythology is wrong.”” < http://blogs.eweek.com/applewatch/content/securi… > Dec 09 17:21
trmanco I tried FF 3.1 b2 today Dec 09 17:25
PetoKraus the CC commercial/non-commercial thing Dec 09 17:25
trmanco I went to boycottnovell to see that <video> and it works :D Dec 09 17:25
PetoKraus it’s hard question Dec 09 17:25
trmanco http://digg.com/tech_news/35_Da… Dec 09 17:27
_doug botnets the new eWMDs .. Dec 09 17:27
_doug http://www.hoover.org/publi… Dec 09 17:27
trmanco The Khronos Group Releases OpenCL 1.0 Specification: http://www.khronos.org/news/press/releases/the_kh… Dec 09 17:27
trmanco OpenVG 1.1 Specification Publicly Released by Khronos: http://www.khronos.org/news/press/releases/open… Dec 09 17:28
_doug “Microsoft ..  estimates that 10 percent of Windows computers are infected with malware” Dec 09 17:28
schestowitz Cool! I got an interview with the CEO of OIN Dec 09 17:29
trmanco 10% Dec 09 17:30
trmanco LOL Dec 09 17:30
neighborlee well thats why people hate vista so much with its system to detect entrusion ( ask for verify on doing things) ..they hate being asked several times for something to happen, though its supposed to decrease threats..supposedly but I have not read any stats its success…it ‘used’ to be true they were targets but now I suspect its harder? so attacks may become  much less frequent Dec 09 17:31
schestowitz For timely background: Dec 09 17:32
schestowitz http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=… Dec 09 17:32
schestowitz http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122879… Dec 09 17:32
schestowitz trmanco: thanks, I never tested it Dec 09 17:33
schestowitz I got some E-mails about it with advice though… from Debian. Dec 09 17:33
trmanco It is usable Dec 09 17:33
schestowitz Excellent! Dec 09 17:33
schestowitz _doug: over 40% are zombies. Dec 09 17:34
schestowitz Microsoft used to say only .2% or 2% were infected. It lies a little less as time goes by Dec 09 17:34
schestowitz It uses as a ‘method’ the rate at which MICROSOFT software removes some stuff Dec 09 17:34
schestowitz Lies, damn lies, you know the rest.. Dec 09 17:35
trmanco hey cool Dec 09 17:40
trmanco I just helped the FSFE Dec 09 17:40
PetoKraus umm Dec 09 17:41
PetoKraus the questionairre on CC Dec 09 17:41
PetoKraus god Dec 09 17:41
PetoKraus some of the questions are stupid Dec 09 17:41
trmanco here -> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.org…. Dec 09 17:41
_doug Clangers creator dead at 83 .. :] Dec 09 17:42
_doug http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/news/7… Dec 09 17:42
PetoKraus http://pk.gjhak.sk/old/.storage/2008-… Dec 09 17:43
PetoKraus ^^ how about being FS supporter? Dec 09 17:43
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twitter In Zombies we trust had M$ estimating the zombie population at 66% Dec 09 17:55
twitter Here, is the start of my M$ Patent Extortion time line http://slashdot.org/~twitte… Dec 09 17:55
twitter enjoy! Dec 09 17:55
schestowitz 66? Dec 09 17:56
schestowitz Not 33%? Dec 09 17:56
schestowitz Or 25%? Dec 09 17:56
schestowitz I think 25% was Cerf in 2006 Dec 09 17:56
schestowitz I’m writing about this right now. Dec 09 17:56
schestowitz Done in a few minutes Dec 09 17:56
_doug “The ‘we win by killing’ days are passing” Dec 09 17:57
_doug http://radar.oreilly.com/archives/20… Dec 09 17:57
twitter 66% was a reference to a M$ malware study.  People who thought they had a problem got some kind of program to look into it.  The results found 66% had some form of malware.  I’ve long  thought that virtually all M$ machines are part of a botnet because it is impossible to secure them. Dec 09 17:59
twitter They are binary clones and  “critical patches” come out every month. Dec 09 18:00
twitter In any case, the “In zombies we trust article” lays out the practical implication – you can’t do online commerce without large fraud losses unless you refuse to deal with Windows clients. Dec 09 18:01
twitter http://it.slashdot.org/articl… and http://it.slashdot.org/article…. Dec 09 18:03
twitter ” A little over a year ago, I wrote an editorial where in back-of-the-envelope style (.pdf) I estimated that perhaps 15-30% of all privately owned computers were no longer under the sole control of their owner.  In the intervening months, I received a certain amount of hate mail but in those intervening months Vint Cert guessed 20-40%, Microsoft said 2/3rds, and IDC suggested 3/4ths.  It is thus a conservative risk position to ass Dec 09 18:04
schestowitz twitter: those who have AV SW at least feel secure. Dec 09 18:04
schestowitz I was pissed off some years ago when someone complained we’d diconnected him. Dec 09 18:04
_doug a false sense of security .. Dec 09 18:04
twitter So do SUV drivers, but it’s a lie. Dec 09 18:04
schestowitz His AV S/W said “no virus”, so he thought it must be true. Dec 09 18:05
_doug Obama should organize a congressional committee on the whole Internet lack of security issue .. Dec 09 18:05
twitter echo “no virus” Dec 09 18:05
schestowitz :-) Dec 09 18:05
schestowitz exit(99); Dec 09 18:06
schestowitz There needs to be regulation about Windows Dec 09 18:06
schestowitz Not to be used or procured, except in rare cases. Dec 09 18:06
twitter _doug it would be easier to simply demand free software in purchases. Dec 09 18:06
schestowitz Microsoft employs liars like Jeff Jones to create illusions to CIOs and such. Dec 09 18:06
schestowitz Microsoft is a marketing (aka Propaganda) company Dec 09 18:06
schestowitz It buys perception. Dec 09 18:06
twitter this is all unraveling as they run out of money. Dec 09 18:07
schestowitz Yes Dec 09 18:07
schestowitz You can’t say that Dec 09 18:07
_doug …………………………………………………. Dec 09 18:20
_doug Why Does Microsoft Get a Free Pass on Malware? Dec 09 18:20
_doug …………………………………………………… Dec 09 18:20
_doug http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/secu/article.php… Dec 09 18:20
_doug They need to legislate for malware .. Dec 09 18:21
_doug gtg .. Dec 09 18:26
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twitter Roy, what one story would you point someone to to explain M$ media manipulation? Dec 09 18:50
schestowitz I have assortments. Dec 09 18:53
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twitter going to look, I’m looking for individual reporter manipulation. Dec 09 18:54
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Omar87 Hi all Dec 09 18:57
schestowitz Hey Dec 09 18:58
schestowitz twitter: there are many example. Dec 09 18:58
schestowitz *example. Watch the links at the bottom of the page Dec 09 18:58
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twitter lots of links Dec 09 19:01
twitter one of the best stories is the one where a reporter is set up for a story and then is accidentally handed his own dossier Dec 09 19:01
twitter I can’t find the link, as usual. Dec 09 19:02
schestowitz Wasn’t that in http://boycottnovell.com/2008/0… ? Dec 09 19:03
twitter will check Dec 09 19:04
twitter yes, it’s in there.  good stuff. Dec 09 19:05
schestowitz I’m listening to a good talk right now. Dec 09 19:06
schestowitz Related to this… the history of brainwash Dec 09 19:06
schestowitz In US administration. Dec 09 19:06
twitter oh no, http://www.vcnet.com/bms/depar… fails Dec 09 19:06
schestowitz Yes Dec 09 19:06
schestowitz We talked about it before Dec 09 19:06
schestowitz It’s the Boycott Microsoft site Dec 09 19:06
twitter I remember talking and found this live article at the time http://blog.wired.com/business/2007/… Dec 09 19:10
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tacone anyone wants to laugh ? http://linuxlock.blogspot.com/2008/12… Dec 09 19:13
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schestowitz LOL Dec 09 19:17
tacone see you soon, bye Dec 09 19:18
twitter http://blog.wired.com/business… Dec 09 19:19
twitter here you go, a story about M$ media censorship.  Thanks _doug for reminding me about that itmanagment story http://slashdot.org/firehose…. Dec 09 19:20
PetoKraus umm Dec 09 19:20
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PetoKraus how’s it in UK with holocaust being crossed out from being lectured about? Dec 09 19:20
PetoKraus i just see a powerpoint presentation talking about this… Dec 09 19:21
twitter that stop holding our kids back story is funny, but I’ve seen it in real life.  A BRLUG member had to ask M$ for permission before being allowed to hand out free software at the “free speech” alley of LSU.  There were lots of excuses about not letting commercial vendors spam the place (M$ was allowed to do the same previously) and the M$/LSU contract forbidding types of software distribution. Dec 09 19:24
twitter Land of the free and home of the brave.  Oh yeah. Dec 09 19:25
schestowitz Multi-part lecture, twitter: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=clL4ot… (worth a watch) Dec 09 19:28
schestowitz This relates to media control and education suffering from censorship too. Dec 09 19:28
schestowitz If they freeze the ‘media’ (CNN, Fox, etc) for a day and just project the truth, only then you’ll know that they are interested in ending mass brainwash. Dec 09 19:30
twitter I’ll check it out.  Broadcast is dying and with it brainwash. Dec 09 19:30
twitter Here’s something odd.  Twitter has 179 submissions http://slashdot.org/~twitter/submissions but is not listed in the hall of fame http://slashdot.org/hof.shtml Dec 09 19:31
twitter perhaps they are keeping track of things per year. Dec 09 19:32
schestowitz bbl Dec 09 19:33
twitter later Dec 09 19:35
trmanco so Dec 09 19:41
trmanco any zero day exploits today after patch Tuesday? Dec 09 19:41
trmanco :-p Dec 09 19:41
twitter always Dec 09 19:51
PetoKraus :D Dec 09 19:51
twitter here’s more corruption, automakers get their bailout.   http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pi… Dec 09 19:51
twitter like that’s going to change anything. Dec 09 19:51
MinceR http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/6012/… Dec 09 19:52
twitter I like what Bruce Perens had to say about this http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20… Dec 09 19:53
twitter wrong link. Dec 09 19:53
twitter http://technocrat.net/d/20… Dec 09 19:53
twitter ugh, here’s bad news.  http://technocrat.net/d/2… Dec 09 20:09
PetoKraus virgin media at it’s best: http://www.irc.gjh.sk/pastebin/717 Dec 09 20:33
PetoKraus LET’S DO CLOUD COMPUTING!!!!! Dec 09 20:35
PetoKraus 35s delay! Dec 09 20:35
trmanco btw Dec 09 20:38
trmanco FF 3.1 b2 does 92 on acid3 Dec 09 20:39
PetoKraus jesus bloody christ, virgin is gonna get deflorated soon Dec 09 20:42
PetoKraus WITH SLEDGEHAMMER :) Dec 09 20:42
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_doug BlackDuck: “Huge open source application infrastructure implementations .. only a fraction of overall adoption” Dec 09 20:48
_doug http://ostatic.com/blog/black-duck-… Dec 09 20:48
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_doug Google Native Client challenges Microsoft and Adobe RIAs .. Dec 09 21:07
_doug http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/12… Dec 09 21:07
_doug “Google has proposed a model where application calls are made using ptrace in Linux and Mac OS X. Access control lists have been proposed for Native Client on Windows” Dec 09 21:07
twitter WSJ looks at Netflix Silverlight failure, http://blogs.wsj.com/biztech/2008/12… Dec 09 21:08
_doug Will Google finally do what MS is incapable of, making the underlying OS safe from the browser ? Dec 09 21:08
_doug ‘Google wants such applications to be “browser neutral”‘ Dec 09 21:09
_doug And OS neutral ? Dec 09 21:09
twitter They should and can with ogg theora Dec 09 21:10
GoblinRFD I think Google has the best chance of pulling it off. Dec 09 21:10
twitter YouTube works OK on my Lenny system, Google can and will do better.  Wikipedia is already there. Dec 09 21:10
twitter Internet Archive is going there too. Dec 09 21:10
_doug “Google has released a new technology called Native Client, which is similar to Microsoft’s ActiveX.” Dec 09 21:11
_doug err .. NO it isn’t … !!!!! Dec 09 21:12
twitter http://blog.netflix.com/2008/12/changes-… looking for comments, something stinks about their “Silverlight is soooo goood we don’t need employees line” Dec 09 21:12
-tomaw-[Global Notice] Hi all. One of our client servers is having some connectivity problems. Please keep with us while we investigate. Thanks! Dec 09 21:12
_doug http://www.pcworld.com/printable/arti… Dec 09 21:13
MinceR if google’s attempts at making software (other than the search engine) are of any indication, Native Client will be a dismal failure. Dec 09 21:14
_doug “Native Client looks similar to Microsoft’s ActiveX technology but will run on Linux and the Mac OS as well as Windows” Dec 09 21:14
_doug I guess we’ll be reading tomorrow an announcment of msNativeClient that does it better Dec 09 21:15
twitter here’s a guy that did more digging and found Silverlight quality issues http://newteevee.com/2008/12/08/netfl… Dec 09 21:18
twitter nasty how that crap has been taken up by Netflix and Tivo but those companies have always been part of the DRM conspiracy. Dec 09 21:19
twitter I’m not going anywhere near Silverlight.  If Netflix quits shipping DVDs they lose my account. Dec 09 21:20
twitter Career builder fires 300.  http://www.eastvalleytribun… Dec 09 21:22
twitter they must not have had enough jobs … Dec 09 21:23
_doug waiting for … www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/132050 … Dec 09 21:23
_doug you would have thought business was booming … Dec 09 21:24
twitter how, no one is hiring? Dec 09 21:25
twitter job boards have been filled with scammers and bullshit for a long time now. Dec 09 21:25
_doug the tubes from America are very sluggish at this time of the evening :0 Dec 09 21:27
twitter Hey, there’s good work for budding frauds, ” In the financial services sector, some hiring continues as companies lay off workers who make $350,000 and replace them with workers who make $75,000. Goldman Sachs Group Inc., which cut 10 percent of its staff in the last few months, has been running select help wanted ads for junior positions.” Dec 09 21:27
twitter http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/… Dec 09 21:27
_doug “Crashed F/A-18 fighter jet .. may have been caused by a power failure, a California congressman said today” Dec 09 21:28
_doug That’s fast work … Dec 09 21:28
_doug http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=206… Dec 09 21:28
_doug “the top Republican member of the U.S. House Armed Services Committee, said .. was ‘likely unrelated’ to structural problems with the F/A-18D planes that were identified in October” Dec 09 21:29
_doug my SPIN~1 detector is flashing like crazy … Dec 09 21:29
_doug “In November, the Navy grounded 10 F/A-18D Hornets and placed flight restrictions on 20 others after discovering cracks in their aluminum outer wing panel outboard hinges” Dec 09 21:30
PetoKraus http://news.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid… -> whooopsie. Dec 09 21:32
_doug “Unfortunately, the fan drive shafts of these engines have a tendency to coke, .. improper maintenance could potentially cause an uncontained failure of the engine resulting in possible loss of aircraft and life” Dec 09 21:35
_doug http://www.enviro-navair.navy.mil/data/… Dec 09 21:35
_doug If you’re going to trash a businesses reputation on a public blog, then at least have the sense to post under a different name and location, preferably your bosses ;] Dec 09 21:43
_doug Especially if you still work for them :<< Dec 09 21:44
_doug what’s the female version of the PHB ? Dec 09 21:45
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_doug answer required … Dec 09 21:46
_doug twitter: re Goldman Sachs hiring on low-cost-labor .. can’t you just feel the love :) Dec 09 21:52
_doug hi GoblinRFD .. Dec 09 22:03
_doug goodnight JohnBoy, grandpa Walton, Mary Ellen, Jim-Bob .. and what are y’all doing in ma bedroom :) Dec 09 22:05
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GoblinRFD hi doug Dec 09 22:06
GoblinRFD oh damn, hes gone :( Dec 09 22:06
twitter Vista SP2 fails to impress http://blogs.computerworld.com… Dec 09 22:06
schestowitz _doug (gone): Black Duck is the creation of Microsoft refugee. Dec 09 22:10
schestowitz MinceR: love the picture about motor bailout! Dec 09 22:11
MinceR :) Dec 09 22:11
trmanco hahaha Dec 09 22:12
trmanco schestowitz, you were right Dec 09 22:13
schestowitz Career builder layoffs? I though many people were looking for a career now… Dec 09 22:13
trmanco schestowitz, take a peek -> http://tirania.org/blog/archive… Dec 09 22:13
PetoKraus MinceR: good one! Dec 09 22:14
schestowitz Seems like the payment ladder is lowered. Dec 09 22:15
schestowitz Next thing you know China will be ‘kind’ enough to give jobs to Americans Dec 09 22:15
schestowitz [after they buy GM and the likes of it] Dec 09 22:15
twitter They will show us how to police networks too. Dec 09 22:16
schestowitz *LOL* again? Dec 09 22:16
schestowitz I guess it’s Chrismas early. Dec 09 22:16
schestowitz Migi is going home. Dec 09 22:16
schestowitz *Christmas\ Dec 09 22:16
trmanco lol Dec 09 22:17
twitter It’s kind of a collaborative effort.  China made demands of Cisco and M$, and will now provide the benefits of their operational experience. Dec 09 22:17
trmanco new super dupper windows vista sp2 with a oct core cpu and 32 gb of ram Dec 09 22:17
schestowitz twitter: PRESTON gralla…. his career is tied to the monopolist… I’d rather we didn’t feed it. Dec 09 22:18
MinceR the Leaders of the Free World (also World Police; Land of the Free) will learn Freedom from the glorious Chinese Government? :> Dec 09 22:20
schestowitz Cool Dec 09 22:20
schestowitz My editor is happy to air the interview with OIN’s CEO Dec 09 22:21
schestowitz I just can’t use the term “patent troll” Dec 09 22:21
MinceR pft Dec 09 22:21
MinceR what’s his problem with that term? Dec 09 22:21
schestowitz My editor won’t like it. I’ll publish this in a ‘mainstream’ site (with Microsoft ads *cough*) Dec 09 22:23
trmanco Google developing Microsoft ActiveX rival: http://www.computerworlduk.com/technology/develo… Dec 09 22:23
schestowitz Anyway… off I go Dec 09 22:23
schestowitz “Yes, go ahead and do the interview with the CEO of OIN. But please do me a favor and avoid the term “patent troll’ in the story. “ Dec 09 22:26
schestowitz *LOL* Dec 09 22:26
schestowitz I know how loathed the term is. :-)) Dec 09 22:26
MinceR :) Dec 09 22:26
schestowitz Can you give me question ideas? Dec 09 22:30
schestowitz zoobab should probably care. Dec 09 22:30
trmanco http://ehsanakhgari.org/blog/2008-10-… Dec 09 22:34
trmanco we are almost there Dec 09 22:34
schestowitz My questions are too hostile.. Dec 09 22:36
twitter you might ask him about the Biski decision. Dec 09 22:37
twitter what he thinks of RMS’s quote about mosquitoes, malaria and patents Dec 09 22:37
twitter you should also ask what the thinks of organizations like IV Dec 09 22:39
twitter you there, Roy? Dec 09 22:40
twitter Had I known you wanted questions, I’d have researched earlier.  Good luck. Dec 09 22:41
schestowitz Yes Dec 09 22:41
schestowitz I’m taking note too Dec 09 22:41
schestowitz Most of my questons are critical Dec 09 22:41
schestowitz Your suggesttions are good Dec 09 22:42
twitter thanks. Dec 09 22:42
twitter ask the hostile question, or you won’t have them resolved when you write. Dec 09 22:42
schestowitz If it’s too hostile, he might walk away Dec 09 22:44
schestowitz But it’s them who approached me. Dec 09 22:44
twitter Just ask for facts and opinions, so you can get the answers you want.  The point of the interview is to get things straight, that’s not really hostile. Dec 09 22:45
twitter Get him to explain what a “high quality” software patent is and how it’s different from any other business method patent. Dec 09 22:48
twitter A fun thing to learn would be his estimate on the proportion of high to low quality in his and other company’s portfolios.  “How many of the world’s software patents are high quality?” Dec 09 22:52
twitter “How about Microsoft, Novell and OIN’s?” Dec 09 22:53
twitter then you might ask him exactly what a high quality software patent is. Dec 09 22:53
schestowitz I won’t mention Novell Dec 09 22:57
schestowitz That would bring out the critics Dec 09 22:58
schestowitz Yes Dec 09 22:58
schestowitz Thanks for that. Dec 09 22:58
twitter you’re welcome.  If you have time, you might ask him about Obama’s policy. Dec 09 22:58
twitter That’s about all I can think of now.  Good luck with it and have fun. Dec 09 22:58
schestowitz I’ll paste here for proofread if that’s OK Dec 09 22:58
schestowitz And for improvement. Dec 09 22:58
twitter OK shoot. Dec 09 22:59
twitter It won’t hurt for them to get their hands on it and prepare good answers will it? Dec 09 22:59
twitter Don’t forget to record everything so you can get it right. Dec 09 23:00
schestowitz 1. OIN has already attracted some fairly large companies that contributed their patent portfolios. Do you foresee more large companies joining? Dec 09 23:00
schestowitz Comments? Dec 09 23:00
twitter sounds good.  the converse is if there are any companies that won’t be protected. Dec 09 23:01
twitter save that for later :-D Dec 09 23:01
schestowitz 2. The decision reached in the re Bilski case was discussed quite a lot in legal Web site. What is your personal interpretation of the decision and how does it apply to software patents? Dec 09 23:01
schestowitz *sites Dec 09 23:02
twitter personal or OIN? Dec 09 23:02
schestowitz [it was done quickly, so typo-spotting is helpful too] Dec 09 23:02
twitter It would be good to get both. Dec 09 23:02
schestowitz I guess it can be personal Dec 09 23:02
schestowitz Unless he *is* ION. Dec 09 23:02
schestowitz OIN Dec 09 23:02
schestowitz I’ll make it OIN. Dec 09 23:02
schestowitz I’d rather keep it just one question. Dec 09 23:03
schestowitz 3. Richard Stallman was quotes as saying that “fighting patents one by one will never eliminate the danger of software patents, any more than swatting mosquitoes will eliminate malaria.” What is your take on such point of view? Dec 09 23:04
twitter make it shorter, What’s OIN’s opinion of the Bilski case? Dec 09 23:04
twitter 2.  What’s OIN’s position and your opinion of the Bilski case. Dec 09 23:05
twitter *? Dec 09 23:05
schestowitz 3. What do you consider to be a high quality software patent and how is it different from any other business method patent? How many of the world’s software patents are high quality? Dec 09 23:05
*schestowitz makes it shorter Dec 09 23:05
twitter Aww, I liked the RMS question. Dec 09 23:05
twitter that’s 4, right? Dec 09 23:05
twitter like 4 too Dec 09 23:06
schestowitz *Richard Stallman was quoted -<typo Dec 09 23:06
twitter 3.  Richard Stallman once said, “fighting …. Dec 09 23:06
schestowitz 4. Do you believe that software patents should be extended or limited in terms of scope? Is it fair to say that OIN’s aspiration is not to have them eliminated altogether? Dec 09 23:06
*schestowitz changes RMS q Dec 09 23:07
schestowitz 6. How would OIN respond to companies which choose litigation or licensing but do not have any products that require them to cross-license? Dec 09 23:08
twitter 5. looks good, you might want them to be two questions. Dec 09 23:08
*schestowitz splits Q Dec 09 23:08
twitter give him time to answer, he’s on record saying he believes in software patents, you might not have to aks about abolition at all. Dec 09 23:08
twitter I don’t understand 6.  Would he? Dec 09 23:09
schestowitz 8. The firm Intellectual Ventures was founded by a former Microsoft executives with the assistance of his former employer, who has been hostile towards Linux (which OIN protects). How can OIN respond to threat from Intellectual Ventures, given that the company has no concrete products? Dec 09 23:09
schestowitz twitter: I don’t know if he would Dec 09 23:10
twitter 8.  good question Dec 09 23:10
schestowitz *Executive -< singular Dec 09 23:10
twitter yes Dec 09 23:11
*schestowitz removes cruft Dec 09 23:11
schestowitz 8. The firm Intellectual Ventures was founded by a former Microsoft executive with the assistance of his former employer, who has been hostile towards Linux. How can OIN respond to threat from Intellectual Ventures, given that the company has no concrete products? Dec 09 23:11
twitter 8. The firm Intellectual Ventures was founded by a former Microsoft executive with Microsoft assistance. How can OIN respond to threat from Intellectual Ventures, given that the company has no concrete products and is hostile to GNU/Linux? Dec 09 23:12
twitter It’s good to get the founding and assistance out in the open, so he can comment on it.  The question remains excellent. Dec 09 23:14
schestowitz 9. OIN stepped up to the defence when Microsoft threatened GNU/Linux in May 2007. Jim Zemlin of the Linux foundations explicitly mentioned OIN’s role in a memorable article that he published in  Business Week. A year and half later the threats remain, as they were never retracted. Can OIN respond proactively as opposed to defensibly in order to reduce the effect of fear, uncertainty and doubt that still linger? Dec 09 23:14
*schestowitz copies the modified q8 Dec 09 23:14
schestowitz ref: http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/may2… Dec 09 23:14
schestowitz 10. If a situation arises where a project that OIN covers get forked, will the protection be extended to this fork? Dec 09 23:16
twitter 9 – do you mean respond proactively to the May 2007 threat or new ones? Dec 09 23:16
schestowitz That short? Dec 09 23:17
twitter what? Dec 09 23:17
schestowitz Oh wait Dec 09 23:17
schestowitz To the May 2007 one. Dec 09 23:17
schestowitz One last q: 11. One common criticism of OIN is that it legitimises software patents whereas other groups challenge the validity of this class of patents. How do you respond to to critics who insist on the latter route? Dec 09 23:18
schestowitz /s/to to/to/ Dec 09 23:18
twitter like question 10 Dec 09 23:19
schestowitz 11. One common criticism of OIN is that it legitimises software patents whereas other groups challenge the validity of this class of patents. How do you respond to critics who insist on the latter route to challenging threats? Dec 09 23:19
schestowitz (added “to challenging threats”) Dec 09 23:19
twitter *patent, class is singular I think Dec 09 23:20
schestowitz Where? Dec 09 23:20
twitter question 11 Dec 09 23:20
schestowitz legitimises software patent < singular? Dec 09 23:20
twitter “class of patents” to “class of patent”? Dec 09 23:21
schestowitz Oh yeah Dec 09 23:21
schestowitz I think we’re done. Dec 09 23:21
schestowitz hanks. Dec 09 23:22
twitter I have a few more thoughts if you have time Dec 09 23:22
schestowitz 12. The cost associated with acquiring patents is too high for some small businesses to afford and OIN does not cover Free/open source software projects higher up the stack which OIN covers. Is it possible that this scope of coverage will change in the future? Dec 09 23:22
schestowitz Last one ^ Dec 09 23:22
twitter that’s one of my thoughts Dec 09 23:23
schestowitz More thoughts would be good too. Dec 09 23:23
schestowitz Or questions Dec 09 23:23
twitter 12 is a good question but the wording is confusing Dec 09 23:23
schestowitz Yes, I know. Dec 09 23:24
schestowitz I did it in a rush. Dec 09 23:24
twitter what does “projects higher up the stack which OIN covers” mean? Dec 09 23:24
schestowitz Beyond Linux Dec 09 23:24
twitter Are you asking him how he decides to cover software? Dec 09 23:24
schestowitz 12. The cost associated with acquiring patents is too high for some small businesses to afford and OIN does not cover Free/open source software projects beyond Linux. Is it possible that this scope of coverage will change in the future? Dec 09 23:25
twitter Ahhh, that’s a good question. Dec 09 23:25
schestowitz /s/coverage/protection/ Dec 09 23:25
twitter remove second “this” before scope Dec 09 23:26
twitter dope, that’s a that Dec 09 23:26
schestowitz I know the answer to that Dec 09 23:27
schestowitz He talked to Roberto about it, but it’s worth hearing againl Dec 09 23:27
twitter Looks good.  Finally, you might ask him if he thinks the new US administration will change anything. Dec 09 23:27
schestowitz Yup Dec 09 23:27
twitter Does that make a lucky 13 quesions? Dec 09 23:27
schestowitz Regarding patents? Dec 09 23:27
schestowitz Yes Dec 09 23:28
twitter Yes. Dec 09 23:28
twitter patents and enforcement. Dec 09 23:28
twitter Like if they might clean up that Texas court that all the patent trolls use. Dec 09 23:28
schestowitz 13. Do you think the new US administration will change anything regarding patents enforcement? Dec 09 23:28
schestowitz *and Dec 09 23:28
schestowitz *cant use the “T” word :-) Dec 09 23:29
twitter Am I confused or is there a court in Texas that patent lawyers love beyond others? Dec 09 23:29
twitter that might be subject to fraud charges or a change of judge? Dec 09 23:30
schestowitz It’s not the court Dec 09 23:30
schestowitz It’s the whol district Dec 09 23:30
schestowitz Rocket Docket Dec 09 23:30
schestowitz They already challenge this Dec 09 23:30
schestowitz Relocations and all.. Dec 09 23:30
twitter I wonder if a new administration might be able to fix the problem, so it does not have to be worked around. Dec 09 23:31
schestowitz Same s*, differnet day Dec 09 23:31
twitter OIN’s opinion would be more interesting than mine, so you might leave it open ended. Dec 09 23:31
schestowitz Same lobbyists, different day Dec 09 23:31
twitter cool stuff, have fun. Dec 09 23:31
schestowitz America iUS) is a one-party state Dec 09 23:31
twitter Right now, I’m going to take care of the state of my dinner. Dec 09 23:32
twitter any last questions before? Dec 09 23:32
schestowitz No, thanks. A lot. Dec 09 23:33
twitter glad to be of service Dec 09 23:33
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schestowitz Doug reckons there’s FUD here: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/12/09/g… Dec 09 23:47
*GoblinRFD has quit (Remote closed the connection) Dec 09 23:50
schestowitz Good riddance to bad press: As newspapers fade, Pulitzer embraces Web < http://yahoo-cnet.com.com/8301-10… >; good luck ‘competing’ on the Web. Dec 09 23:56
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    Corel got to close to massive success with Linux

    Corel didn’t even get close to minor failure, let alone anything related to “success”.

    They contributed a good amount, but they never were in danger of doing that sustainably.

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