06.04.09
“I Believe Gnote is Also Slated for Inclusion by Default in Debian and Ubuntu”
Summary: Reasons for true optimism as Mono drifts further away from GNU/Linux
STATES ONE anonymous person:
I believe Gnote is also slated for inclusion by default in Debian and Ubuntu.
For those who are just joining us, Red Hat decided to remove Mono from its default installation of Fedora [1, 2]. Perhaps the way to reward the project is to check out Fedora 12 when it comes out. The remark above is attached to the following new article from Sam Varghese.
Fedora casts Mono into outer darkness
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There are fears around Mono that it may be subject to patent claims by Microsoft down the track.
Richard Chapman adds:
Why in the world would any true blue Linux user want to use anything related to mono/Microsoft. It’s a trap! Go back before it’s too late! I have heard Miguel de Icaza speak of Microsoft in glowing terms. It almost sounds like worship. It makes me wonder why he hasn’t left Novell for a job at Microsoft. My conclusion: He’s worth more to Microsoft where he is. I know many people just look a the technical side of things and harbor no ill feelings towards one side or the other. That’s the way Microsoft would like everyone to see things. If that were the case then they could do their “work” unhindered by sticky matters of market dominance or even monopoly being raised. I don’t need any more reasons to dislike Microsoft but they keep giving them to me anyway. Microsoft is bad. Bad for business. Bad for your mental health. When Microsoft is gone, or gone enough, the World will be a much better place. People and businesses will wonder how they ever got any work done in Microsoft’s prison.
The worst one can do is offer Microsoft a new home in other platforms which it is suing. █
“At Microsoft I learned the truth about ActiveX and COM and I got very interested in it inmediately [sic].”
–Miguel de Icaza
aeshna23 said,
June 4, 2009 at 5:25 am
Or the readers may want to check out Fedora 11 when it comes out in six days.
Roy Schestowitz Reply:
June 4th, 2009 at 5:35 am
Yes, I thought carefully before typing that.
The Mono booster of Ubuntu/Debian is already at it
“I don’t know about Debian, but no such plans were discussed for Karmic at UDS.”
–directhex
Posts: 12
Joined: Mon Jun 01, 2009 5:54 pm
Well, Gnote is in Karmic. That’s a good start.
Michael Reply:
June 4th, 2009 at 8:35 am
I wish you were more careful with your other quotes.
I’m a fan of your cause, but I’d rather you quoted me in context and if you’re going to quote me, use my name rather than “one anonymous person”.
I only say this because I said it as an “I believe I read somewhere”, if you have a look at your source. I may have been wrong, too.
Roy Schestowitz Reply:
June 4th, 2009 at 8:41 am
Sorry about that. I clicked to see the profile, then got a request to register. Since I didn’t know even a first name I could only go with “someone” or “a person” or “anonymous person”.
It wasn’t supposed to sound degrading.
Michael said,
June 4, 2009 at 8:17 am
“STATES ONE anonymous person:”
If you’ll notice, in that particular forum, I have over 1500 posts, so hardly “anonymous”.
I wish you’d quote me in context.
The username, there, BTW, is mdsmedia.
Roy Schestowitz Reply:
June 4th, 2009 at 8:23 am
I wrongly read it as a sequence of characters, which I assumed was an account of someone who did not wish to be identified.
Gnothi Reply:
June 4th, 2009 at 8:39 am
Roy, the “anonymous person” that you’ve quoted in your byline here is simply an avid Ubuntu user, not any kind of PC industry insider or Linux specialist.
What on earth is your baseline for testimonial credibility??
Roy Schestowitz Reply:
June 4th, 2009 at 12:35 pm
For Debian it seems very possible based on another source.
Michael Reply:
June 4th, 2009 at 8:42 am
A “sequence of characters” doesn’t make over 1500 posts in any forum, if you’re “careful”.
Roy Schestowitz Reply:
June 4th, 2009 at 8:53 am
True, I didn’t look carefully enough.
Michael said,
June 4, 2009 at 8:47 am
Roy,
I’m sorry.
I’m being berated for my comments appearing on other sites. I’ve corrected what others believe to be my “factual” statements and they’re making excuses.
All I said was that I believe this to have been the case, while I may have been mistaken.
It’s not your fault, in fact the person berating me quoted what I said in correction of myself, then corrected me. Some people do not like to be told they’re wrong.
Roy Schestowitz Reply:
June 4th, 2009 at 8:52 am
Is that person Jo (directhex)? He’s a Mono booster and part of the project.
Michael Reply:
June 4th, 2009 at 9:05 am
It wouldn’t surprise me.
Roy Schestowitz Reply:
June 4th, 2009 at 9:07 am
It’s a known problem.