09.24.09

Gemini version available ♊︎

If Vista 7 is Wonderful Like Microsoft Claims, Then Why is Vista 8 Vapourware Already Surfacing?

Posted in Apple, GNU/Linux, Marketing, Microsoft, Vista, Vista 7, Vista 8, Windows at 5:25 am by Dr. Roy Schestowitz

Microsoft breaks its own rules by advancing Vista 8 before Vista 7 is even out

“In the face of strong competition, Evangelism’s focus may shift immediately to the next version of the same technology, however. Indeed, Phase 1 (Evangelism Starts) for version x+1 may start as soon as this Final Release of version X.”

Microsoft, internal document [PDF]

Summary: Will Microsoft no longer speak about Vista 7 as much as it does about vapourware?

MICROSOFT employs PR agencies to distort the reality behind Vista 7. This process includes some of the least ethical tactics, which include monitoring of blogs and then unleashing semi-automated replies to counter opposition en masse. Microsoft is not alone when it comes to these tactics though. Our reader Ryan gets this done constantly to his blog, which Comcast is still monitoring with the help of SpyStroturf agency Radian6. He saw this before. With agencies like Visible Technologies, Microsoft is systematically silencing opposition and engages in “perception management” [1, 2].

“Both Vista and Vista 7 did not deliver the features which Microsoft promised that they would have.”This introduction hopefully puts in perspective the hype that surrounded Windows Vista back in 2006 and 2007. It is happening again ahead of the release of Vista 7, whose deficiencies are very many (here is a list of examples).

Microsoft is probably aware that backlash may come after Vista 7 is released and then tested by average households where the computers are not state-of-the-art, the software is mediocre and old, and users are mostly amateurs (not testers of release candidates, let alone MSDN subscribers). As we have shown before, Vista 8 is already on Microsoft’s lips [1, 2], so when people express dissatisfaction with Vista 7 Microsoft will say that version 8 is out “real soon now” and it will deliver everything under the sun. Both Vista and Vista 7 did not deliver the features which Microsoft promised that they would have. It’s a safe bet that Vista 8 will also make coffee and do somersaults.

Anyway, here is the very latest attempt to hype up Vista 8. It comes from Mary Jo Foley, who makes some money on the side from doing that type of promotion.

Anders Vindberg, a Microsoft Technical Fellow in Microsoft’s Management and Services division — a “Big Brains” interview with whom I’ll be posting soon — acknowledged that planning sessions were well underway for Windows 8. And of the 12 working groups created, “eight or nine revolve around management.”

[...]

Stephen Chapman, a tech enthusiast who runs the UX Evangelist site, has been beating the bushes for a few months now for Windows 8 information. He recently unearthed a number of job profiles of folks who have worked on and are working on various elements which may or may not make it into the final Windows 8 release.

Here they are talking about “final Windows 8 release.” Isn’t the world supposedly preparing for the final release of Vista 7? Well, as the quote at the very top shows, Microsoft perhaps realised just how far behind it had fallen. It’s not just about GNU/Linux, but also about Mac OS X.

“The fact is that the vast majority of office desktops are using Windows, the third-best platform. You can argue about the relative merits of modern Linuxes like Ubuntu and the Mac, but they are clearly better than Windows in terms of robustness, cost, performance, and a whole bunch of other things. For the long term, can the mainstream of business continue to ignore the fact that there’s a better alternative than what they’re running? If that logjam breaks, that’s going to be a real change.”

Tim Bray

Share in other sites/networks: These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and discover new web pages.
  • Reddit
  • email

Decor ᶃ Gemini Space

Below is a Web proxy. We recommend getting a Gemini client/browser.

Black/white/grey bullet button This post is also available in Gemini over at this address (requires a Gemini client/browser to open).

Decor ✐ Cross-references

Black/white/grey bullet button Pages that cross-reference this one, if any exist, are listed below or will be listed below over time.

Decor ▢ Respond and Discuss

Black/white/grey bullet button If you liked this post, consider subscribing to the RSS feed or join us now at the IRC channels.

2 Comments

  1. Yuhong Bao said,

    October 4, 2009 at 1:18 am

    Gravatar

    Well, I don’t really like the Vista 7 label. It can be easily confused, as it was in a recent BN article. But IMO Vista 8 is even more ridiculous, will every version of Windows after Vista be called “Vista”?
    “Our reader Ryan gets this done constantly to his blog, which Comcast is still monitoring with the help of SpyStroturf agency Radian6. ”
    And on Comcast, again looks like this reply has disclosure that it is from Comcast. The tone don’t look too bad either.

  2. Yuhong Bao said,

    October 4, 2009 at 1:42 am

    Gravatar

    “Well, I don’t really like the Vista 7 label. It can be easily confused, as it was in a recent BN article. But IMO Vista 8 is even more ridiculous, will every version of Windows after Vista be called “Vista”?”
    And yes Windows 7 internal version number is NT 6.1, but we don’t know the internal version number of Win 8 yet. And yes the server version of 7 is called Server 2008 R2, but does that mean that the server version of 8 will be called Server 2008 R3?

DecorWhat Else is New


  1. Links 10/06/2023: Debian 12 “Bookworm”

    Links for the day



  2. Gemini Links 10/06/2023: Cob(WW)Webs, Client Certificates in Gemini, and Zig

    Links for the day



  3. IRC Proceedings: Friday, June 09, 2023

    IRC logs for Friday, June 09, 2023



  4. Links 10/06/2023: libei 1.0.0 and Qt Creator 11 Beta

    Links for the day



  5. Jim Zemlin Boasting in 2022: Linux Foundation Has Revenue of Over 200 Million Dollars; IRS in 2022: Linux Foundation Has Revenue of 139 Million Dollars

    As noted here months ago, the Linux Foundation is run by a lying, manipulative charlatan who merely milks the brand “Linux” to enrich himself; where is that anomaly coming from?



  6. 'Linux' Foundation: Spendings on Salaries Increased More Than 20% in One Year

    As per the document just published after it had been submitted 7 months ago, salary-related expenditures rose from 49,386,990 to 59,791,694 in one year



  7. Links 09/06/2023: JDBC FDW 0.3.1 and Godot 4.1 Beta

    Links for the day



  8. Gemini Links 09/06/2023: Thoughts on Flatpak and Apple Cultists

    Links for the day



  9. Trying to 'Finish the Job' of Bully de Blanc and Deb Nicholson by Rewriting History (and Even Terms) for Microsoft

    Heather J. Meeker is trying to rewrite history and now we can see who her financial masters and hosts are (lots of Microsoft); The media portrayed her as some kind of historian for Free software a few months ago (as funding had been secured), but she already outsources everything to proprietary software controlled by Microsoft. This will be corporate revisionism; moreover, there’s employment history with Microsoft. As an associate put it: “The employment history with Microsoft is a dead give away that she will only spew lies and disinformation” (using books and such; the revisionism is well funded); the latest blog from the OSI is also sponsored by Microsoft (both the blog post and the person who wrote it)



  10. Links 09/06/2023: Tor Browser 12.0.7 and Many Linux Devices

    Links for the day



  11. Linux Foundation Demotes Mr. Linux, Linus Torvalds, to Third (in Salaries), Only Uses Him for the Name

    The Linux [sic] Foundation‘s tax filings (divulged by the Nonprofit Explorer) show that it now pays “CHRIS ANISZCZYK” and “JAMES ZEMLIN” more than it pays “LINUS TORVALDS”, sans bonuses. Torvalds fell to third place already. Mr. Zemlin pays himself over $1.2 million a year. He doesn’t even use Linux. He lacks credentials and accomplishments (except for selling out to companies like Microsoft), but he keeps pandering to power and money (Bill Gates). It should be noted that the Torvalds bonus was added only after backlash had erupted.



  12. HMRC is Just Taking Taxpayers' Money and Not Enforcing the Law (or Selectively Enforcing It for the Political Masters)

    What we've been demonstrating or highlighting so far this year is a defunct system of accountability, wherein the government officials and their associates are essentially above the law; can they endure the negative press that entails?



  13. GNU/Linux Decade in India: From 1.5% to 13.5%

    The world's largest population is quick to move away from Windows; not many adopt Apple (Indians don't care for overpriced junk), so GNU/Linux is growing fast



  14. IRC Proceedings: Thursday, June 08, 2023

    IRC logs for Thursday, June 08, 2023



  15. Links 09/06/2023: Microsoft's 'Online' ("Clown"/OneDrive) Storage Goes Down Again, Files Cannot be Reached

    Links for the day



  16. What Will Happen After All Major News Sites Die Isn't Pretty

    With webspam, chaff, sponsored puff pieces and worse things being presented as "the news" we're running out of actual purpose for the World Wide Web



  17. HMRC 3 Weeks Later: No Action, Same as 'Action Fraud' (Your Tax Money 'at Work')

    When people need police enforcement against a crime it turns out that police is “MIA” (missing in action); it might matter that Sirius worked with the British government, so there’s a reduced incentive to affirm crimes were committed and then arrest the perpetrators



  18. Links 08/06/2023: Istio 1.18 and FreeIPMI 1.6.11

    Links for the day



  19. Gemini Links 08/06/2023: Sourcehut, Gemini Identity, and BBS Comments on Cosmos

    Links for the day



  20. IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, June 07, 2023

    IRC logs for Wednesday, June 07, 2023



  21. The Need to Evolve on the Internet

    Tux Machines is one year away from its twentieth birthday and its increased focus on protocols aside from HTTP/S is paying off; Tux Machines also weaned itself off all social control media, including Mastodon and Diaspora (they're not the future, they're the past)



  22. EPO Management is Still Bullying the Staff (While Breaking the Law and Violating the European Patent Convention)

    Overloaded or overworked EPO workers are complaining about further deterioration at the workplace and their representatives say "this management style may well contribute to feelings of disengagement, depression, or even burn-out"



  23. His Majesty’s Revenue and Customs (HMRC) Not Responding After 20 Days (Well-Founded Report of Tax Fraud) and British Police Pretending Not to Exist

    The crimes of Sirius ‘Open Source’ have helped unearth a profound problem in the British law enforcement authorities; What good is a monopolistic taxman (called after the British Monarchy even in 2023) that cannot assess its own tax abuses? Or abuses connected to it via a contractor? Meanwhile, as per what I was told, the police is not responding to my MP and that’s ANOTHER scandal (police not only refusing to act against crimes, committed against many people, but moreover not responding to elected politicians)



  24. Links 08/06/2023: Cinnamon 5.8 and Leap 15.5 Release Mature

    Links for the day



  25. Gemini Links 08/06/2023: Emacs and Thoughts on Bubble

    Links for the day



  26. Links 07/06/2023: Reddit Layoffs and OpenGL 3.1 in Asahi Linux

    Links for the day



  27. Gemini Links 07/06/2023: Jukka Charting Geminispace

    Links for the day



  28. IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, June 06, 2023

    IRC logs for Tuesday, June 06, 2023



  29. NOW LIVE: Working for the Public — Universities, Software and Freedom - a Talk by Richard Stallman at Università di Pisa (Italy)

    As noted a few hours ago, Richard Stallman is delivering a talk at Università di Pisa this morning



  30. Richard Stallman's Talk is in Two Hours and There's a BigBlueButton Livestream

    Dr. Stallman is in Italy to give talks at universities this week; he will soon give a live talk, accessible in his site or directly at the source


RSS 64x64RSS Feed: subscribe to the RSS feed for regular updates

Home iconSite Wiki: You can improve this site by helping the extension of the site's content

Home iconSite Home: Background about the site and some key features in the front page

Chat iconIRC Channel: Come and chat with us in real time

Recent Posts