05.25.10

Mandriva Removes More of Mono

Posted in GNU/Linux, Mandriva, Microsoft, Mono, Novell, Xandros at 2:29 am by Dr. Roy Schestowitz

Summary: Mandriva gets rid of Beagle in the 2010.1 (Spring) release

SOME moments ago, as the log at the bottom shows, we found out that Mandriva had removed Beagle from the latest version of its GNU/Linux distribution (one of my favourite distributions). This is encouraging news which comes right after Ubuntu's removal of F-Spot and Fedora’s removal of Mono as a whole. Two years ago we warned Mandriva that it had created an unnecessary Mono dependency in OpenOffice.org and Mandriva responded by fixing it.

“This is encouraging news which comes right after Ubuntu’s removal of F-Spot and Fedora’s removal of Mono as a whole.”Mono dependents are fine, but probably not in a default installation of a GNU/Linux distribution.

The good news is that, as time goes by, GNU/Linux is advancing in many areas and vendors that sold out to Microsoft (decided to pay Microsoft for Linux, unlike Mandriva) are going extinct. Novell will probably be sold shortly and Xandros (which includes Linspire) is hardly ever mentioned in the news anymore. Presto is mentioned here and Xandros is mentioned here, but it’s more of an historical mention. █

DaemonFC	schestowitz: Mandriva is moving away from Mono a bit	May 25 07:43
schestowitz	How so?	May 25 07:44
DaemonFC	2010.1 will replace Beagle with Tracker	May 25 07:44
schestowitz	Nice	May 25 07:44
schestowitz	Good proof?	May 25 07:44
DaemonFC	yes	May 25 07:44
schestowitz	Page/screenshot?	May 25 07:44
schestowitz	Just in case	May 25 07:44
DaemonFC	http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/2010.1_RC	May 25 07:44
Techrights	Title: 2010.1 RC – Mandriva Community Wiki .::. Size~: 61.51 KB	May 25 07:44
schestowitz	I want to verify to avoid mikstakes	May 25 07:44
DaemonFC	Tracker is now replacing Beagle as document search engine.	May 25 07:44
schestowitz	DaemonFC: thanks	May 25 07:44
schestowitz	what mono is left in it then?	May 25 07:44
DaemonFC	the runtime itself and F-Spot I believe	May 25 07:45
schestowitz	no tomboy/gnote?	May 25 07:45
DaemonFC	oh, forgot about that	May 25 07:46
DaemonFC	doesn’t say anything about getting rid of Tomboy, 2010 had it	May 25 07:46
DaemonFC	Beagle uses a hell of a lot of resources though	May 25 07:46
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Now searching for a girl assistant for various task at my company. btw operation was successful and I am OK.		May 25 07:47
DaemonFC	it’s not uncommon for it to sit there and take 80 MB of RAM just for itself while indexing	May 25 07:47
DaemonFC	Tracker usually takes more like 30	May 25 07:47
DaemonFC	those little mono applets here and there gang up on you, take up way more resources than they’re worth	May 25 07:48
DaemonFC	Tomboy takes about double the memory of Gnote	May 25 07:48
schestowitz	Recoll took gigabytes	May 25 07:49
schestowitz	The index	May 25 07:49
schestowitz	Not the program	May 25 07:49
schestowitz	For my home dir	May 25 07:49
DaemonFC	I have to wonder what the hell these distributions are thinking when they needlessly pile these things on	May 25 07:49
DaemonFC	makes it useless on older PCs with less than 1 GB of RAM	May 25 07:49
DaemonFC	and while there are equivalent programs that use half the memory all over the place	May 25 07:50
DaemonFC	Beagle is like WinFS for Linux	May 25 07:53
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] With multiple patents, stronger patent rights can have the perverse effect of stifling, not encouraging, innovation http://ur1.ca/038r1		May 25 07:55
Techrights	Title: Fast forward >> – The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 37.78 KB	May 25 07:55
DaemonFC	hmmm, Indiana University isn’t mirroring the RC	May 25 07:56
DaemonFC	nor is Purdue	May 25 07:56
DaemonFC	those have always been the fastest mirrors for me	May 25 07:57
*Diablo-D3 (~diablo@pool-64-222-232-11.port.east.myfairpoint.net) has joined #boycottnovell		May 25 07:57
MinceR	beagle isn’t like winfs for linux. beagle actually exists.	May 25 07:57
DaemonFC	MinceR: part of WinFS ended up in Windows 7	May 25 07:57
DaemonFC	as “libraries”	May 25 07:57
DaemonFC	more irritating than helpful	May 25 07:58
MinceR	that describes m$ products in general	May 25 07:58
DaemonFC	“You can’t save here you idiot!”	May 25 07:58
DaemonFC		May 25 07:58
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Absolute power has corrupted the MPEG-LA absolutely http://ur1.ca/031fu		May 25 07:59
Techrights	Title: Nero Files Antitrust Case Against MPEG-LA .::. Size~: 30.37 KB	May 25 07:59
DaemonFC	so they end up making you scroll through C:\Users\<user name>\My Music for example	May 25 07:59
DaemonFC	you can’t just click Music and Save	May 25 07:59
DaemonFC	so I redid it all so that the actual folders are in my favorites	May 25 07:59
schestowitz	Let me see, hold on….	May 25 08:00
DaemonFC	and it ends up “My Documents” “My Music” My Pictures” etc. on top of “Music” “Documents” “Pictures”	May 25 08:00
DaemonFC	still aggravating and no way to turn it off	May 25 08:00

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