EditorsAbout the SiteComes vs. MicrosoftUsing This Web SiteSite ArchivesCredibility IndexOOXMLOpenDocumentPatentsNovellNews DigestSite NewsRSS

08.12.10

Rob Tiller and A.J. Venter Explain Why Software Patents Are Bad, Apple Clarifies Patenting Other People’s Software Ideas

Posted in Apple, Patents, Red Hat at 3:11 pm by Dr. Roy Schestowitz

“We’ve always been shameless about stealing great ideas.”

Steve Jobs, Apple

Summary: Latest evidence of software patents disdain and patent news about Yahoo, Apple, and Palm

In today’s earlier post about patents we showed a lawyer, Professor Eben Moglen, opposing software patents. Rob Tiller from Red Hat is a similar case of someone who protests against software patents this week, despite him being a legalese type and not a developer. From his short article:

There’s abundant evidence, though, that software patents serve this objective poorly. For example, as Bessen and Meurer explain in their book Patent Failure, the cost from litigation based on patents in some industries, including software, is several times the profits from patents. This means that for the software industry as a whole, patent costs exceed their benefits. This fact is still not common knowledge, but it is slowly sinking in, as patent litigation continues to grow.

Patent lawsuits (even meritless ones) can cost millions of dollars to defend. This reality creates an economic opportunity for non-practicing entities (a/k/a patent trolls) whose only purpose is to threaten and bring patent lawsuits. The large costs of defenses drive many defendants to settle by paying patent aggressors substantial sums taht are still less than the cost of defense. Such settlements may make business sense, but they divert resources that could be used for more productive purposes, like innovation.

There is another new piece from South Africa — one which compares software patents to monopolies on numbers. Here is part of a long explanation:

So there you have it – not only is every program a number – they are all simple integer numbers that can be counted, and all the great skill and artifice of the programmer is really just a much more efficient way of finding the number we want – rather than counting through them all and checking if it is the one we want (which could take centuries to be honest).

You cannot ask for a more simple piece of proof that a program is in fact a number – that software is discovered rather than invented. The fact that we have very effective methods of discovering them does not change this and doesn’t change that you should not be able to patent numbers.

I still highly recommend reading the article I linked – especially if you are a lawyer or activist involved in the software patent field as it explains the underlying theories very clearly. Effectively it tells you how it came to BE that these numbers are useful, and how we derive their particular useful meaning from them. That process of derivation is what computer hardware does, and a better tool to do that with is patentable (which is why you should indeed be able to get patents on computer hardware), but go in with this basic understanding. That every computer program really is just a number, that those numbers can be reached by simple counting – I’ve proven this to you here, and all of computer programming – as wonderful and delicious and artistic a field of endeavor as it is – is really in the end – just a faster way to count to a number that we like.
This does not reduce from programming any of it’s artifice, if anything it adds to the merit of the field because the processes by which we count are complex and fantastic and beautiful and we are always looking at ways to count even more effectively so we invent new programming languages and ideas like agile programming to help us do it even better – but in the end, the results is just a number that anybody could have counted to – and that is NOT an invention you can patent.

The company once known as “Yahoo” (now a shell of Microsoft with troubling history as “de facto pyramid scheme,” according to a fascinating new piece from this prominent former employee) has just beaten a parasite and won a case involving software patents:

ITS A PATENT WIN for Yahoo this week as the web portal opens the champers after winning the Bright Response patent case.

Bright Response sued Google and Yahoo for nicking its ’947 patent, which covers the invention of an automatic message interpretation and routing system.

Further to the FutureTap story [1, 2] (Apple potentially threatening a company that produced an application for its platform), there’s “damage control” from Apple:

Apple Confirms They’re Not Trying To Kill Third-Party Apps With Patents

Reading over the comments on our post (and let’s be honest, who doesn’t?) about the Apple patent diagram fiasco last week, you would have thought Apple was the most evil company in the world. Many believed that Apple was attempting to patent ideas that third-party developers came up with. Essentially, the thought was that Apple was trying to steal from their own developer community — and were doing so that blatantly. I mean, people actually believed that.

As we noted at the time, this was not likely the case. Instead, Apple was probably just using diagrams of existing third-party apps for examples of other things they were actually trying to patent. Lo and behold, today comes word from the third-party developer at the center of all of this confirming this to be the case.

Why did Apple patent that if there is prior art and there is no interest in offence? Apple has, after all, decided to attack Linux-based phones using software patents. Apple sued over Android and it has already intimidated Palm (over WebOS) using patents. It turns out that Palm (HP) is now patenting what may have remained from Foleo.

That’s where Palm’s freshly-filed patent for “Compact removable voice handset for an integrated portable computer system/mobile phone” comes in. It takes the ill-fated Folio concept to a whole new level by turning the pre-netbook into a dock for the phone that acts as an input device, larger screen, and other magical things. The patent notes that while the connection is decidedly physical, the phone and computer could also communicate wirelessly.

It will be interesting to see what Palm does now that Hurd is out and Microsoft is in (in the form of a Vice President responsible for software). In any case, under HP’s wing, Palm needn’t fear Apple’s patent artillery anymore. Apple is a patent aggressor whose patents are very often imitations of other companies. Earlier today we found this suggestion that governments should ban the Apple hypePhone. Linux on the contrary should be preferred for the ability to inspect code. As the author puts it:

Android on the other hand is secure by design as it is based on the most advanced kernel’s in the world — the Linux kernel. This is the reason most mission critical businesses now use Linux.

Unlike Android which is open source, the closed source nature of Apple technologies like iTunes makes it impossible for end users to know what is happening to their information and data.

As we showed days ago, Apple is also negligent when it come to patching its operating systems, all of which are proprietary.

Share this post: These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and discover new web pages.
  • Digg
  • del.icio.us
  • Reddit
  • co.mments
  • DZone
  • email
  • Google Bookmarks
  • LinkedIn
  • NewsVine
  • Print
  • Technorati
  • TwitThis
  • Facebook

If you liked this post, consider subscribing to the RSS feed or join us now at the IRC channels.

Pages that cross-reference this one

What Else is New


  1. Links 23/5/2012: printerd, Mageia 2 Released

    Links for the day



  2. Links 22/5/2012: Google/Motorola Deal Secured, Chrome Passes IE

    Links for the day



  3. Links - Explorer Goes Down, Oracle Judge is Coder





  4. Links 21/5/2012: Linux 3.4 Released, Dream Studio 12.04

    Links for the day



  5. Articles Against Software Patents and Patent Trolls

    An accumulation of recent articles on matters such as patent trolls, which mostly use software patents based on a recent survey



  6. New Zealand (NZ) Patent Debates Expand

    The kiwi (NZ) press turns its attention to a patent controversy other than the question of software patenting



  7. AOL Helps Microsoft Infiltrate, Harm Open Source Communities, Feeds Facebook With Google-Hostile Patents

    Microsoft is preying on AOL funds and patents



  8. 'Piracy' and 'Discount' Propaganda Used to Kick Free Software Out of Governments in Favour of Microsoft Deals

    A look at new tactics and moves which omit freedom and autonomy from nations foreign to Microsoft



  9. Sun: Interoperability More Important Than Patents

    An old position paper from Sun Microsystems helps shows a certain resistance to patents such as those which Oracle uses against Android



  10. In Motorola Case, Microsoft Boosters Use Slashdot for Anti-Linux/Android Patent Propaganda

    Covering what's right/correct -- not what's wrong/incorrect -- about the Microsoft case against Motorola/Android



  11. Microsoft Tax on Everything

    The company which hardly pays any tax is busy trying to tax GNU/Linux, Android, and all hardware in the OEM channel



  12. Links 19/5/2012: Mandriva Linux Freed, New Linux Mint RC

    Links for the day



  13. Apple Patent Wars Make Android Devices Less Attractive, Everyone Suffers

    Bits of patent news regarding Apple and its patents



  14. Defeat for Software Patents in the United Kingdom

    Wise words from a prominent Linux figure and news from the UK



  15. BSA and IDC Systematically Lie to the Public, Distort Press Coverage

    IDC and the Business Software Alliance (BSA) liaise once again in order to give ammunition to lobbyists of proprietary and copyright conglomerates



  16. Links 17/5/2012: “Bio Computer” Runs Linux, Raspberry Pi Grows

    Links for the day



  17. IRC Proceedings: May 11th-May 16th, 2012

    IRC logs for May 11th, 2012 (and subsequent days until May 16th)



  18. IRC Proceedings: May 5th-May 10th, 2012

    IRC logs for May 5th, 2012 (and subsequent days until May 10th)



  19. IRC Proceedings: April 29th-May 4th, 2012

    IRC logs for April 29th, 2012 (and subsequent days until May 4th)



  20. Android Under Patent Attacks From Nokia, Microsoft, and Oracle

    A roundup of patent news involving Android and the US patent/copyright system, which facilitates ridiculous patents or lawsuits over APIs



  21. Helping OpenSUSE is Helping Microsoft Tax GNU/Linux

    A short wave of calls to refrain from OpenSUSE promotion, which through the upstream is helping Microsoft, the sponsor



  22. Microsoft May Face Federal Action for Blocking Rival Web Browsers on ARM

    Mozilla's call for action is taken seriously by people at The Hill (Washington)



  23. Links 16/5/2012: 125,000 GNU/Linux Machines for Pakistani Students, Android 4.0 Rollouts

    Links for the day



  24. Links 15/5/2012: Linux 3.4 is Near, Mandriva to Have More Releases

    Links for the day



  25. Links - TPP Meeting Infiltrated, More Protest Needed.





  26. Europe Rules Against Monopolies on APIs

    The case against Android notwithstanding, the highest European court rules that APIs cannot be covered by copyrights



  27. Microsoft Versus Education

    A bit of news/commentary on Microsoft in education (indoctrination)



  28. Patents Are Never 'Open Source'

    The disinformation tactic which ascribes patents to FOSS as seen in the news



  29. Signs of Progress: Work for Microsoft, Get Ostracised From Panels/Public Consultations

    Convinced monopolist Microsoft has its moles' voice invalidated, based on the conflict of interest (Microsoft versus the public)



  30. Links 14/5/2012: Linux Kernel 3.3.5, Wine 1.5.4

    Links for the day


RSS 64x64RSS Feed: subscribe to the RSS feed for regular updates

Home iconSite Wiki: You can improve this site by helping the extension of the site's content

Chat iconIRC Channel: Come and chat with us in real time

Recent Posts