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ulfwith my distro, not only will a 512MiB raspi suffice to run all free software, it will suffice to develop all software from source tooAug 03 00:01
ulfthat's very important for meAug 03 00:01
MinceRyour distro won't run all free softwareAug 03 00:01
ulfand another reason, why i hate the GNU toolchain, because it takes hours to compile, test and see fail again and again and againAug 03 00:02
ulfMinceR: there is far less "free" software remaining than you might be aware ofAug 03 00:02
MinceRsuuuuuureAug 03 00:02
MinceRand your distro will enforce that, just like FSF-endorsed OS-es doAug 03 00:02
ulfenforce what?Aug 03 00:02
MinceRtheir number one requirement of endorsement is to make it difficult to install software they've deemed to be nonfreeAug 03 00:03
techrights-newsEmmabuntüs 1.02 Brings Debian Bullseye 11.4 Goodies, Improves UEFI/Secure Boot Support • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167935Aug 03 00:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Emmabuntüs 1.02 Brings Debian Bullseye 11.4 Goodies, Improves UEFI/Secure Boot Support | Tux MachinesAug 03 00:03
MinceRlocking out software such as runit, on the other hand, is not a problem to themAug 03 00:03
ulfwhat an irony, GNOME is blacklisted, and i hope for the GNU toolchain will follow soonAug 03 00:03
MinceRneither is pretending that the biggest NSA backdoor is free softwareAug 03 00:03
ulfalthough, i do not lock it out, it was GNOME and GNU who locked me outAug 03 00:04
ulfi consider it a badge of honor, collecting bans on libera and wherever else they're spreading their liesAug 03 00:05
phaneslolAug 03 00:06
phanesits pretty easy to get banned thereAug 03 00:06
phanesthey actually pay someone to stare at their logs looking for my altsAug 03 00:06
MinceRlolAug 03 00:06
phanesim half a dozen people on there right nowAug 03 00:07
MinceRillibera staff taught me to avoid them long before illibera even existedAug 03 00:08
phanesyeah sameAug 03 00:08
phaneschristian fuchs is one of the worst things to happen to that placeAug 03 00:08
phanesnot because of who is personally, which is enough on its own, but because of what can happen under his watchAug 03 00:09
techrights-newsSeverity 9.8 out of 10. "The affected product may allow an attacker to retrieve passwords in cleartext due to a weak hashing algorithm." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-21-238-03Aug 03 00:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | Delta Electronics DIAEnergie (Update C) | CISAAug 03 00:09
techrights-news"may allow an attacker to plant new files (such as DLLs) or replace existing executable files." DLLs... what platform uses DLL? 9.8 out of 10 in severity. https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-081-01Aug 03 00:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | Delta Electronics DIAEnergie (Update C) | CISAAug 03 00:10
DaemonFCYou really don't want to park on the street in this city.Aug 03 00:11
MinceRi don't want to park in budapestAug 03 00:11
DaemonFCDrunks smash into parked cars all the time and then flee quickly.Aug 03 00:11
techrights-newsviewAug 03 00:11
techrights-newsKenya’s Threat to Ban Facebook Could Backfire | WIRED ⚓ https://www.wired.com/story/kenya-facebook-elections-hate-speech-ban/ ䷉ Source: wired | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.wired.com/story/kenya-facebook-elections-hate-speech-ban/Aug 03 00:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Kenya’s Threat to Ban Facebook Could Backfire | WIREDAug 03 00:12
DaemonFCAnd that's if the cops don't write you a parking ticket. They like doing that. It snows and then you see about 50 people with a parking ticket on your way out that morning.Aug 03 00:12
MinceRwhen a tree was broken in a storm, it crushed the front of my car, i couldn't use it for ~half a year, the local government admitted their responsibility but never paid for the damagesAug 03 00:12
MinceRi hate this fucking excuse for a countryAug 03 00:12
DaemonFCHow is it the government's fault a tree fell during a thunderstorm?Aug 03 00:13
DaemonFCThat's sort of what trees do.Aug 03 00:13
DaemonFCDoesn't your comprehensive insurance cover that?Aug 03 00:13
DaemonFCI don't want to lose the car. The insurance company will have to write me a check eventually, but they're going to try to lowball it to where I'll never find a decent car to drive for what they pay on it.Aug 03 00:14
DaemonFCThen I get to deal with my spouse getting fired for not being able to get to work.Aug 03 00:15
DaemonFCThen if by some miracle, you find a car and he doesn't get fired for absences before you do, the insurance company will still punish you for having the tree land on your car.Aug 03 00:16
DaemonFCIt was an Act of God, you say. Punish God.Aug 03 00:16
DaemonFCHe's done worse things.Aug 03 00:16
techrights-newsThey’ve just done it again, less than a day later. http://techrights.org/2022/08/01/linux-today-zdnet/ Linux Today posting WebspamAug 03 00:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Weird Editorial Choices in ‘Linux Today’ These Past Few Hours (Updated) | TechrightsAug 03 00:16
MinceR03 011326 < DaemonFC> How is it the government's fault a tree fell during a thunderstorm?Aug 03 00:17
MinceRthe street belongs to them, it's their duty to keep it in orderAug 03 00:17
DaemonFCMinceR, I like "Frank" on F is for Family. He rants all the time. He said God used to go easier on people with kids, like having Polio take a couple back.Aug 03 00:17
MinceRwhich includes removing dead treesAug 03 00:17
DaemonFCSovereign ImmunityAug 03 00:17
MinceRmy insurance covers it, but i have to pay more for it in the futureAug 03 00:17
techrights-newsGo 1.19 Release Notes https://go.dev/doc/go1.19Aug 03 00:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-go.dev | Go 1.19 Release Notes - The Go Programming LanguageAug 03 00:17
MinceRfuck sovereign immunityAug 03 00:17
MinceRfuck the stateAug 03 00:17
MinceRand especially fuck hungaryAug 03 00:17
DaemonFCThe government can admit fault and still not have anything happen to it.Aug 03 00:17
MinceRthat's probably true, since there's no rule of law in this shitholeAug 03 00:18
MinceR(then again, there's no rule of law anywhere)Aug 03 00:18
DaemonFCOh no, that's how it works here too.Aug 03 00:18
MinceRthat's because there's no rule of law in the USA eitherAug 03 00:18
MinceRthe rules apply to you, but they don't apply to your governmentAug 03 00:18
MinceRand they don't apply to rich peopleAug 03 00:18
DaemonFCYep.Aug 03 00:18
MinceRthis is one of those things humans love to boast about that they're incapable ofAug 03 00:18
DaemonFCLike the 30 day requirement to make a decision about your FOID Card.Aug 03 00:18
DaemonFCThen they take 18 months.Aug 03 00:18
MinceR"intelligence", and then the majority is more stupid than most lifeforms (and objects) on this planetAug 03 00:19
MinceR"civilization", which apparently consists of empowering sociopaths, fucking everyone else, and just about everyone harming everyone else in whatever way they can, even if it doesn't even benefit themAug 03 00:19
MinceR"rule of law", except for the state, or rich peopleAug 03 00:19
MinceRi'm fucking done with this speciesAug 03 00:20
ulfanyway, don't know yet, if the GNU debugger can be used with binaries emitted from tinycc compiler, probably notAug 03 00:21
ulfjust a random thought againAug 03 00:21
MinceRprobably can beAug 03 00:22
MinceRthough if you want debug symbols, they need to be in a format gdb can understandAug 03 00:22
techrights-newsLinux Mint 21 keeps the crown, but for how long? Cinnamon, MATE and XFCE review - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=rnEo_rkamqQ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/rnEo_rkamqQAug 03 00:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Linux Mint 21 keeps the crown, but for how long? Cinnamon, MATE and XFCE review - InvidiousAug 03 00:23
ulfnope, tcc test.c && file a.out ... strippedAug 03 00:23
ulfi'll have to live with itAug 03 00:23
MinceRmaybe you can tell tcc to include debug symbolsAug 03 00:23
MinceRit won't be terribly useful for a developer if it can't do thaAug 03 00:23
MinceRtAug 03 00:23
phanes"rule of law", except for the state, or rich people <-- have you tried just not being poorAug 03 00:24
ulfoh, tcc -g report not stripped, stupid me...Aug 03 00:25
ulfhave to test thisAug 03 00:25
ulfthe last version of GDB i could salvage is gdb-7.12Aug 03 00:25
ulfany later contained c++Aug 03 00:25
techrights-newsThe GNU C Library version 2.36 is now available https://lwn.net/ml/libc-alpha/9174a0aa-cb9b-aafa-a4cd-e0ccdee65d98@redhat.com/Aug 03 00:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The GNU C Library version 2.36 is now available [LWN.net]Aug 03 00:28
techrights-newsUbuntu Blog: Patterns to achieve database High Availability https://ubuntu.com//blog/database-high-availabilityAug 03 00:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Patterns to achieve database High Availability | UbuntuAug 03 00:29
MinceR03 012459 < phanes> "rule of law", except for the state, or rich people <-- have you tried just not being poorAug 03 00:30
MinceRyou mean, have i tried just being born richAug 03 00:30
MinceRno, i haven'tAug 03 00:30
phanesi wasn't born richAug 03 00:30
MinceRand if i can choose, i will never again be born as a human, or near humansAug 03 00:31
MinceRexisting in a human body is also pure tortureAug 03 00:31
MinceRnothing fucking works in this piece of shitAug 03 00:31
phanesi was given good enough genes to squander and still be fine.  i eat like 3000 calories a day, am largely sedentary and am still somehow in shapeAug 03 00:32
MinceRgood for youAug 03 00:32
phaneslook im just sayingAug 03 00:32
phanesits not your circumstances Aug 03 00:32
phanesits youAug 03 00:32
phanes:DAug 03 00:33
MinceRriiiiiightAug 03 00:33
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techrights-newsWho Is Collecting Data from Your Car? – The Markup ⚓ https://themarkup.org/the-breakdown/2022/07/27/who-is-collecting-data-from-your-car ䷉ Source: themarkup | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//themarkup.org/the-breakdown/2022/07/27/who-is-collecting-data-from-your-carAug 03 00:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-themarkup.org | Who Is Collecting Data from Your Car? – The MarkupAug 03 00:37
ulffinally, the raspi1 compatible toolchain and firmware compiled, linked, bootedAug 03 00:37
techrights-newsOpen source laptop PineBook Pro is shipping again • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167936Aug 03 00:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open source laptop PineBook Pro is shipping again | Tux MachinesAug 03 00:38
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techrights-newsVideos: Linux Mint 21 and More • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167937Aug 03 00:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Videos: Linux Mint 21 and More | Tux MachinesAug 03 00:38
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mateynew theory (not entirely new)Aug 03 00:39
techrights-newsExploitable remotely https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-20-212-04Aug 03 00:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | Mitsubishi Electric Factory Automation Engineering Products (Update H) | CISAAug 03 00:39
mateythe fsf was basically an iron man suit for rmsAug 03 00:39
mateywhat he could do, he could do better with the fsfAug 03 00:39
mateyfighting for free softwareAug 03 00:39
techrights-news"Successful exploitation of these vulnerabilities may cause a denial-of-service condition. " https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-21-049-02Aug 03 00:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | Mitsubishi Electric FA Engineering Software Products (Update F) | CISAAug 03 00:40
MinceRand then he gave upAug 03 00:40
mateyhe could have passed the suit on, not everyone can wear itAug 03 00:40
mateyhe was conned, imoAug 03 00:40
mateybut yeah, hes not really fightingAug 03 00:40
mateythe suit has been taken out of his handsAug 03 00:40
mateyand it wont do any good in the hands of someone who isnt "suited" to itAug 03 00:40
MinceRhow do you con the founder of the free software movement that CLOSED WONTFIX and vendor lock-in respect the freedom of the users and their community?Aug 03 00:41
mateyi dont know if oliva could have worn it. i think that was the ideaAug 03 00:41
mateycertainly one of the ideas.Aug 03 00:41
MinceRdid he forget the Free Software Definition? (he probably did...)Aug 03 00:41
mateyi dont think stallman forgot the fsdAug 03 00:41
mateyi think he discovered it, like einstein discovered relativityAug 03 00:41
MinceRthen why did he say that cancerd is free software because it's under a free software license?Aug 03 00:41
mateyand i think he didnt figure out all 5 parts of itAug 03 00:41
MinceRhe didn't discover enough of itAug 03 00:41
MinceRyeahAug 03 00:41
mateywhen we discovered atoms, that wasnt wrongAug 03 00:42
mateybut atoms are made of subatomic particles, we found outAug 03 00:42
mateyand i think the 4 freedoms are made of sub-four-freedom particlesAug 03 00:42
mateymostly though, i think the force that holds them together is the freedom to NOT run the softwareAug 03 00:42
mateyif you dont have that, the freedom to change the software cant keep up with corporations taking a big shit in your lapAug 03 00:43
mateythats what happenedAug 03 00:43
mateya good scientist looks at the world and discerns rulesAug 03 00:43
mateythe world before us contradicts the 4 freedomsAug 03 00:43
mateythere were 3-- freedom 0 was added not just because computers count from 0Aug 03 00:43
mateythe original first freedom was freedom 1.Aug 03 00:43
mateynow the first freedom is freedom 0, because the freedom to use the software for any purpose is foundational.Aug 03 00:44
mateythey added 0 last.Aug 03 00:44
techrights-newsPublic Knowledge Commends FCC, NTIA for New Memorandum Improving Spectrum Resource Coordination - Public Knowledge ⚓ https://publicknowledge.org/public-knowledge-commends-fcc-ntia-for-new-memorandum-improving-spectrum-resource-coordination/ ䷉ Source: publicknowledge |Aug 03 00:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-publicknowledge.org | Public Knowledge Commends FCC, NTIA for New Memorandum Improving Spectrum Resource Coordination - Public KnowledgeAug 03 00:44
mateyi dont care if the fifth freedom is freedom -1 (appropriate) or freedom 4Aug 03 00:44
mateyi do care that i have the freedom to NOT run the softwareAug 03 00:44
techrights-news# Perl Weekly Challenge 176: Permuted Multiples and Reversible Numbers http://blogs.perl.org/users/laurent_r/2022/08/-perl-weekly-challenge-176-permuted-multiples-and-reversible-numbers.htmlAug 03 00:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-# Perl Weekly Challenge 176: Permuted Multiples and Reversible Numbers | laurent_r [blogs.perl.org]Aug 03 00:45
mateythis implies a reasonable level of modularity-- everything being tied to systemd goes against that freedomAug 03 00:45
mateyfreedom 3 (share modified versions) is dependent on the freedom to not run the softwareAug 03 00:45
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mateyif you cant NOT run it, there is no changing it reallyAug 03 00:45
mateythey have what they want-- controlAug 03 00:45
mateythe freedom to not be controlled should be so obvious, its implicitAug 03 00:45
techrights-newsLibre Arts - 8 audio editors for Linux that are not Audacity • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167938Aug 03 00:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Libre Arts - 8 audio editors for Linux that are not Audacity | Tux MachinesAug 03 00:46
mateysome idiot came along and shitconned rms into ignoring implicit freedoms and focusing on explicit onesAug 03 00:46
mateyoops.Aug 03 00:46
mateyscalia had the same attitude towards the bill of rightsAug 03 00:46
mateyhe was a literalistAug 03 00:46
MinceRhas scalia ever cared about human rights?Aug 03 00:46
mateywithout the spirit of the law, the letter of the law killsAug 03 00:46
MinceRwasn't he always a "republican"?Aug 03 00:46
mateyscalia was a letter of the law guyAug 03 00:46
MinceRso, noAug 03 00:46
techrights-newsFeren OS is a Linux distribution that is as lovely as it is easy to use • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167939Aug 03 00:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Feren OS is a Linux distribution that is as lovely as it is easy to use | Tux MachinesAug 03 00:46
mateyidk, he was shit on toast no matter what his leaning wasAug 03 00:46
MinceRjust another concrete-headed fascistAug 03 00:47
mateydemocrats all shit on the constitution when they renew the patriot actAug 03 00:47
mateybiden is democrat and takes credit for writing it. rumsfeld got it passed, hes a republicanAug 03 00:47
mateybipartisan fascism, or whatever it is by another nameAug 03 00:47
techrights-news"transformational leaders" = people who add vendor lock-in, call it "transformation" https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/8/what-transformational-leaders-do-differentlyAug 03 00:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | What transformational leaders do differently | The Enterprisers ProjectAug 03 00:47
MinceRyeahAug 03 00:47
mateywithout the freedom to not run the software, freedom 3 falls apart.Aug 03 00:48
mateywithout freedom 3, its hard to keep exact copies working while the rest changes.Aug 03 00:48
mateyso theres freedom 2Aug 03 00:48
mateywithout 3 and 2, how are you going to study the software?Aug 03 00:48
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techrights-news7 ’stay interview’ questions to gauge employee satisfaction | The Enterprisers Project ⚓ https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/8/stay-interview-questions ䷉ Source: enterprisersprojectAug 03 00:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | 7 'stay interview' questions to gauge employee satisfaction | The Enterprisers ProjectAug 03 00:48
mateyand without all of those, how can you dream of using it for any purpose?Aug 03 00:48
mateyso really, its probably a little inaccurate but certainly not cynical to say Aug 03 00:49
mateythat the freedom to NOT run the software is the force that holds the other freedoms togetherAug 03 00:49
techrights-news"A big “Thank You!” goes to our astounding sponsors for their support in bringing Fedora Friends together in 2022. Thank you Red Hat, Lenovo, AlmaLinux, openSUSE, GitLab, Datto, and Das Keyboard." https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/nest-with-fedora-2022-thanks-to-our-sponsors/Aug 03 00:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-communityblog.fedoraproject.org | Nest with Fedora 2022: Thanks to our Sponsors! – Fedora Community BlogAug 03 00:49
mateyand systemd goes against that (implicit) freedomAug 03 00:49
mateywhich stallman unfortunately never discoveredAug 03 00:49
MinceRhttps://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/1524465647786381312-2048x1133.jpgAug 03 00:49
mateyit was hiding in plain sight all this timeAug 03 00:49
mateyso no, i dont think he forgot the fsdAug 03 00:49
mateyi think he just didnt complete itAug 03 00:49
MinceRhe forgot even the parts he completedAug 03 00:50
mateyhe outsourced them to the licenseAug 03 00:50
MinceRhis statement on the massive NSA backdoor flies right in the face of the FSDAug 03 00:50
mateyhe thinks if the license promises 4 freedoms, you have 4 freedomsAug 03 00:50
mateythe idea that you can work around the license without violating it-- hes got the same logical issue as every scalia argument everAug 03 00:50
techrights-newsCreating an Ansible controller config as code pipeline ⚓ https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/creating-ansible-controller-config-code-pipeline ䷉ Source: Red Hat | ICBM | GNU | Linux | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.redhat.com/en/blog/creating-ansible-controller-config-code-pipelineAug 03 00:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Creating an Ansible controller config as code pipelineAug 03 00:50
mateyyou very much can work around the license, and thats what open source and microsoft spent 20 years working onAug 03 00:51
mateyand they did itAug 03 00:51
mateythey can take control of gpl softwareAug 03 00:51
mateyjust buy out the non-profit that maintains it, and voilaAug 03 00:51
mateycreate foundation-- give everything to foundation-- bribe foundation-- control the software.Aug 03 00:51
mateyits not rocket science. its not a hollow moon.Aug 03 00:51
mateyits just how corporations work.Aug 03 00:51
mateyit even works against the fsf itself.Aug 03 00:52
mateytheyve basically created a sort of dummy to put the rms suit ontoAug 03 00:52
mateylike when they setup that tripod thing that let them into cerebro on xmenAug 03 00:52
matey"welcome, professor"Aug 03 00:52
techrights-news"Only that you do not need to be good enough. Not a single one of us is, we all have gaps in our knowledge, we all have missing talents. Yet Mageia is still there, since over a decade. Why? Because, by bundling our very different skills and talents and by bundling our available time, Mageia became good as a whole." https://blog.mageia.org/en/2022/08/02/so-you-are-not-good-enough-to-contribute/Aug 03 00:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mageia.org | So you are not good enough to contribute? | Mageia Blog (English)Aug 03 00:52
mateycerebro wasnt intended as a weaponAug 03 00:53
mateybut they weaponised open source and they used it against the fsfAug 03 00:53
ulfi think it's a breakthrough, if "Free Software" development can be brought back onto where it belongs, cost-effective low-power systemsAug 03 00:54
mateyheres what would have avoided that... in theoryAug 03 00:54
mateythe fsf could have trained people to be more like rmsAug 03 00:54
mateythey could have made stronger activistsAug 03 00:54
mateybut that wasnt the fsf modelAug 03 00:54
mateythe fsf model was to parrot thingsAug 03 00:54
techrights-news[GIT PULL] printk for 5.20 - Petr Mladek https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/YufsTLpighCI7qSf@alley/Aug 03 00:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lore.kernel.org | [GIT PULL] printk for 5.20 - Petr MladekAug 03 00:55
mateyand they got parrotsAug 03 00:55
mateysure, you want some kind of integrity to exist between message and messengerAug 03 00:55
mateythey chose the parrot modelAug 03 00:55
techrights-news[GIT PULL] SPI updates for v5.20 - Mark Brown https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220801123832.C1E2EC433D6@smtp.kernel.org/Aug 03 00:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lore.kernel.org | [GIT PULL] SPI updates for v5.20 - Mark BrownAug 03 00:55
mateyif instead they had trained stronger activistsAug 03 00:55
mateysomething they were never equipped to doAug 03 00:55
mateywhen open source stormed the castle there would have been a (rhetorical) reckoningAug 03 00:56
ulfsimple question, what good is any "free software" if it cannot be used nor developed on lower power embedded and cost-effective systems?Aug 03 00:56
mateythere would have been a shitstorm,Aug 03 00:56
mateyinstead there was a whimper that lasted 2 years or more.Aug 03 00:56
techrights-newsFedora Family / Red Hat Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167940Aug 03 00:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora Family / Red Hat Leftovers | Tux MachinesAug 03 00:56
mateythe whimper heard round the worldAug 03 00:56
mateyof the fsf dyingAug 03 00:56
ulfwith c++ removal, i crunched down the distfiles folder from more than 1TiB to a few GiBAug 03 00:57
ulfwhich easily fits onto a microsd available for $5Aug 03 00:57
mateypeople will have to try to build their own fsfAug 03 00:57
mateyits not the easiest thing to doAug 03 00:57
techrights-newsSparky [Linux] news 2022/07 https://sparkylinux.org/sparky-news-2022-07/Aug 03 00:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sparkylinux.org | Sparky news 2022/07 – SparkyLinuxAug 03 00:57
mateyeveryone was trained on twinkies and fruit roll-upsAug 03 00:58
mateyand we have no stallmans left, including stallmanAug 03 00:58
mateyfree software wont cease to matter, as long as there are computers in our livesAug 03 00:59
mateyi dont think thats going to change soonAug 03 00:59
mateybut the fsf, as a platform for advocacy, is fucking worthlessAug 03 00:59
mateythey dont stand for anythingAug 03 00:59
techrights-newsWhy WordPress Is a Good First Platform for Students ⚓ https://thishosting.rocks/why-wordpress-is-a-good-first-platform-for-students/ ䷉ Source: thishosting | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//thishosting.rocks/why-wordpress-is-a-good-first-platform-for-students/Aug 03 00:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thishosting.rocks | Why WordPress Is a Good First Platform for StudentsAug 03 00:59
mateypeople who would advocate know its destroyedAug 03 00:59
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mateyroy wont admit it, but he does obviously see that advocates are pushed to do their thing at lieplanetAug 03 00:59
mateyand lieplanet turns away anyone with something to sayAug 03 01:00
ulfshow me at least one "free software" distribution which can be used AND fully developed 100% from source on a raspi zero type systemAug 03 01:00
mateyand the result is pablum on a podium with a mic in front of itAug 03 01:00
mateytalking to no oneAug 03 01:00
mateyabout nothingAug 03 01:00
techrights-newsGodot Engine - Maintenance release: Godot 3.4.5 ⚓ https://godotengine.org/article/maintenance-release-godot-3-4-5 ䷉ Source: godotengine | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//godotengine.org/article/maintenance-release-godot-3-4-5Aug 03 01:01
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mateyits painful to watchAug 03 01:01
mateyif the real thing is ever rebuilt, youll be able to see itAug 03 01:01
mateypeople will believe in the idea againAug 03 01:01
mateyand you wont have to guess whyAug 03 01:01
mateybut i have no faith in the fsfAug 03 01:02
mateytheyre traitors too nowAug 03 01:02
mateybut not as bad as the ones who made it that wayAug 03 01:02
mateyi mean they could be forgivenAug 03 01:02
mateybut maybe not trustedAug 03 01:02
mateyim speaking in broad terms of course, and exceptions dont mean the rule doesnt existAug 03 01:03
mateymost rules have exceptions. even the crazy rules.Aug 03 01:03
mateyeven the zero tolerance ones arent really zero toleranceAug 03 01:03
mateythey always make exceptions for the right (special) peopleAug 03 01:03
techrights-newsIntroducing multitasking to Arduino | Arduino Blog ⚓ https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/08/02/introducing-multitasking-to-arduino/ ䷉ Source: Arduino | Hardware | OpenHardware | Hacking | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.arduino.cc/2022/08/02/introducing-multitasking-to-arduino/Aug 03 01:03
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mateythe codes of conduct are applied more unevenly than the rules that preceded themAug 03 01:04
mateythats the true farce of courseAug 03 01:04
mateybecause they were pushed in on a theme of "we dont make exceptions even for the leaders"Aug 03 01:04
techrights-newsYaST Development Report - Chapter 6 of 2022 | YaST ⚓ https://yast.opensuse.org/blog/2022-08-02/yast-report-2022-6 ䷉ Source: yast | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//yast.opensuse.org/blog/2022-08-02/yast-report-2022-6Aug 03 01:04
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mateyyes you do-- youre even more full of shit about good peopleAug 03 01:04
mateyabout the best peopleAug 03 01:04
mateywhat they really meant was theyd have cause to stoop lower and be more viciousAug 03 01:05
mateybut its no surprise that sounds better the way they put itAug 03 01:05
techrights-newsEasyOS 32-bit Dunfell-series version 4.3.1 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167816#comment-34495Aug 03 01:06
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MinceR03 020019 < ulf> show me at least one "free software" distribution which can be used AND fully developed 100% from source on a raspi zero type systemAug 03 01:07
MinceRi don't think such a thing existsAug 03 01:07
MinceRor will exist in the near futureAug 03 01:07
techrights-newsBut this is a Microsoft Mono problem https://boilingsteam.com/porting-roblox-game-to-steam-find-the-cats/Aug 03 01:08
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ulfMinceR: certainly not with a toolchain from Mapple or the GNU/FSF oneAug 03 01:08
techrights-newsFOSSlife Team promoting Microsoft, which attacks FOSS https://www.fosslife.org/get-started-typescriptAug 03 01:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosslife.org | Get Started with TypeScriptAug 03 01:10
ulfraspi1 arrived 2013 already, almost 10years agoAug 03 01:11
techrights-newsTranspeed P10 Android 10 Full HD projector features Allwinner H700 SoC https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/08/02/transpeed-p10-android-10-full-hd-projector-features-allwinner-h700-soc/Aug 03 01:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Transpeed P10 Android 10 Full HD projector features Allwinner H700 SoC - CNX SoftwareAug 03 01:11
ulfFSF/GNU missed all chances, they haven't realized, what the potential was for "free software", if a raspi1 type system sufficed for all software developmentAug 03 01:12
techrights-news[PATCH v8 00/31] Rust support - Miguel Ojeda ⚓ https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220802015052.10452-1-ojeda@kernel.org/ ䷉ Source: kernel | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220802015052.10452-1-ojeda@kernel.org/Aug 03 01:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lore.kernel.org | [PATCH v8 00/31] Rust support - Miguel OjedaAug 03 01:12
ulfinstead, they blew up their toolchain, too since year 2013Aug 03 01:13
techrights-news[GIT PULL] Btrfs updates for 5.20 - David Sterba ⚓ https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/cover.1659357652.git.dsterba@suse.com/ ䷉ Source: suse | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lore.kernel.org/lkml/cover.1659357652.git.dsterba@suse.com/Aug 03 01:13
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MinceRthey probably never cared much for it in the first place, considering that it relied on proprietary software to bootAug 03 01:13
MinceR(iirc someone did make a lot of progress in making it boot with only free software, though)Aug 03 01:13
techrights-news[PATCH v2 00/10] x86/resctrl: Support for AMD QoS new features and bug fix - Babu Moger ⚓ https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/165938717220.724959.10931629283087443782.stgit@bmoger-ubuntu/ ䷉ Source: bmoger-ubuntu | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lore.kernel.org/lkml/165938717220.724959.10931629283087443782.stgit@bmoger-ubuntu/Aug 03 01:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lore.kernel.org | [PATCH v2 00/10] x86/resctrl: Support for AMD QoS new features and bug fix - Babu MogerAug 03 01:13
ulfthey didn't care for moving the entire development 100% from source onto such a systemAug 03 01:15
techrights-news"Most manufacturers of consumer-grade network routers (both Ethernet and Wi-Fi) brand their products as “Gigabit Routers”. At the very least, it’ll say “Gigabit Ethernet”. However, neither term necessarily means the router can fully exploit your gigabit internet connection." https://www.ctrl.blog/entry/gigabit-router.htmlAug 03 01:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ctrl.blog | “Gigabit Router” doesn’t mean it can deliver gigabit internet speed | Ctrl blogAug 03 01:15
ulffor this, they preferred proprieaty systems from Wintel, nowadays with 16cores and tons of RAM, to compile some "free" software such as webkit or libreofficeAug 03 01:15
ulfGNOMEAug 03 01:16
techrights-newsSpotlight on SIG Docs | Kubernetes ⚓ https://kubernetes.io/blog/2022/08/02/sig-docs-spotlight-2022/ ䷉ Source: kubernetes | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//kubernetes.io/blog/2022/08/02/sig-docs-spotlight-2022/Aug 03 01:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kubernetes.io | Spotlight on SIG Docs | KubernetesAug 03 01:16
ulfanyway, my toolchain and binaries are raspi1 compatible again, not armv7Aug 03 01:18
ulfand it's some certain mind-set and attitude, among GNU/FSF tooAug 03 01:19
ulfto offer a "free software" toolchain which hits OOM regularly with g++Aug 03 01:19
ulfhaven't tried yet on a raspi with 256MiB RAM or 512MiB, never willAug 03 01:19
techrights-newsUpdate #2: Fourth time in a day. ‘Linux Today’ probably gets paid to post this spam. http://techrights.org/2022/08/01/linux-today-zdnet/Aug 03 01:22
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techrights-news"This is the first part of a 3 part series of blog posts surrounding Kali usage on Raspberry Pi devices. This first post will cover enabling Full Disk Encryption (FDE) on a Raspberry Pi, part two will cover remotely connecting to it, and finally, part three will cover debugging issues we ran into while making these posts, so others can learn how to do so as well." https://www.kali.org/blog/secure-kali-raspberry-pi/Aug 03 01:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.kali.org | Secure Kali Pi (2022) | Kali Linux BlogAug 03 01:26
techrights-newsHow Does the Linux Kernel Work? The Linux Kernel Anatomy Explained • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167941Aug 03 01:30
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techrights-newsSteinar H. Gunderson: AV1 live streaming: The bitrate difference https://blog.sesse.net/blog/tech/2022-08-02-23-11_av1_live_streaming_the_bitrate_difference.htmlAug 03 01:31
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techrights-newsBicom 6.6.0 "PBXware" is out. Based on Gentoo. http://www.bicomsystems.com/products/pbxware/Aug 03 01:32
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techrights-newsPublic Knowledge President and CEO Chris Lewis To Testify Before Senate Commerce Subcommittee on Spectrum’s Future - Public Knowledge ⚓ https://publicknowledge.org/public-knowledge-president-and-ceo-chris-lewis-to-testify-before-senate-commerce-subcommittee-on-spectrums-future/ ䷉ Source: publicknowledgeAug 03 01:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-publicknowledge.org | Public Knowledge President and CEO Chris Lewis To Testify Before Senate Commerce Subcommittee on Spectrum’s Future - Public KnowledgeAug 03 01:36
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mateyone of several things roy deserves credit for pointing out Aug 03 01:37
mateyis that the fsf started its associate programme due to running out of his grants etcAug 03 01:37
mateyi dont know how true that is, its probably mostly true at a minimumAug 03 01:37
mateybut its plausbleAug 03 01:38
mateyso first it was running mostly on grants, then shifted to donationsAug 03 01:38
mateythen came corporate sponsorsAug 03 01:38
mateyimo they should have been more about volunteersAug 03 01:38
mateyand less about money, though who knows if they could have kept a building, etcAug 03 01:39
mateyprobably notAug 03 01:39
techrights-newsICBM wants to dominate RasPi too https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/RaspberryPi4Aug 03 01:39
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mateyevery time they added something to the budget they became less independentAug 03 01:39
mateymost orgs wouldnt worry about thatAug 03 01:39
mateyhowever, the same thing happens to most orgsAug 03 01:39
techrights-newsChrome 104... new bugs https://chromereleases.googleblog.com/2022/08/stable-channel-update-for-desktop.htmlAug 03 01:40
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mateyover time they get bought out. then they sell out.Aug 03 01:40
mateystallman never ran the org, he ran the movementAug 03 01:40
techrights-newsTails 5.3.1 is out • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167942Aug 03 01:40
schestowitz[TR2]matey: well putAug 03 01:40
mateyhe didnt know how orgs work-- so he left that to people who doAug 03 01:40
schestowitz[TR2]he did grassrootsAug 03 01:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tails 5.3.1 is out | Tux MachinesAug 03 01:40
mateyproblem is orgs work the way they workAug 03 01:40
schestowitz[TR2]but when the grants run low the people he hired want to secure a salaryAug 03 01:40
mateyand sooner or later, they will take overAug 03 01:41
techrights-newsGNU Octave 7.2 Released! Here’s PPA for Ubuntu 22.04 | 20.04 • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167943Aug 03 01:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU Octave 7.2 Released! Here’s PPA for Ubuntu 22.04 | 20.04 | Tux MachinesAug 03 01:41
mateynow you have an org past its prime and a movement that is defined via an org past its primeAug 03 01:41
mateyand by past its prime i mean its entered the "i dont give a shit about anything other than marketing and fundraising" point of its existenceAug 03 01:41
MinceRmore like an org that has become uselessAug 03 01:41
mateyoh thats what im describing, yesAug 03 01:42
mateyits an org only good for what money can doAug 03 01:42
mateyand while money wasnt a terrible thing to haveAug 03 01:42
mateyits a terrible thing for the free software movement to be based onAug 03 01:42
techrights-news"All hardware operations reply to commands given through the OS. Being an open software, Linux makes a top choice for eCommerce due to its wide range of advantages." https://www.unixmen.com/linux-or-windows-for-ecommerce/Aug 03 01:42
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mateyfor reasons you can plainly seeAug 03 01:42
mateyperhaps im misattributing all that. im not, but its worth mentioning.Aug 03 01:42
mateyits the f$f, not the fsfAug 03 01:43
mateythis isnt even unfairAug 03 01:43
mateythis is what orgs that are 35+ DO.Aug 03 01:43
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mateyas long as you serve a purpose that for-profits can hook into, youre good.Aug 03 01:43
mateythey can hook into things that provide relief to the homeless for exampleAug 03 01:43
mateyit helps their image and the homelessness problem doesnt actually get solvedAug 03 01:44
mateyso everyone is happyAug 03 01:44
mateyexcept the homeless of courseAug 03 01:44
mateybut who gives a shit about them anywayAug 03 01:44
mateybut that model doesnt work with free softwareAug 03 01:44
mateyits about actually standing up to corporationsAug 03 01:44
mateyonce it hooks into donations, its going to get paid to soften on thatAug 03 01:44
mateywhen free software is softened and more about money-- thats not free softwareAug 03 01:45
mateythey already coined a term for what that is in 1998Aug 03 01:45
mateyso the fsfs days were numberedAug 03 01:45
mateyand it was destined to become osi iiAug 03 01:45
mateyor osiii if you likeAug 03 01:45
techrights-newsOpenChrome, An Open Source Driver, Is Not Yet Ready To Be ⚓ https://www.opensourceforu.com/2022/08/openchrome-an-open-source-driver-is-not-yet-ready-to-be-integrated-into-linux-5-20/Aug 03 01:45
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mateya wilier stallman would have seen this coming, built an ejector seat into his office, and left with a huge stuntAug 03 01:46
mateyinstead hes a hostageAug 03 01:46
mateyhe didnt plan for thisAug 03 01:46
mateyi dont blame him for thisAug 03 01:46
mateyive made that clear enoughAug 03 01:46
mateyi blame the people who actually did thisAug 03 01:46
mateybut its still true, a perfect and infallible stallman (even the one we had is pretty amazing) would have seen this comingAug 03 01:46
mateybut i already said-- he doesnt understand orgs. he had other people worry about thatAug 03 01:47
techrights-newsIDG at it again... sponsored by Microsoft. 5 terrible reasons angry nerds say I should switch to Linux | PCWorld ⚓ https://www.pcworld.com/article/820164/5-reasons-angry-nerds-switch-linux.html ䷉ Source: pcworldAug 03 01:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-5 terrible reasons angry nerds say I should switch to Linux | PCWorldAug 03 01:47
mateydelegeting: good. not understanding the nature of the beast that would take over the movement: not as goodAug 03 01:47
mateyim not any better, i only see this now... i SORT of saw it comingAug 03 01:47
mateybut not the same way he would have needed to to prevent itAug 03 01:47
mateythey wont let him out of their manipulationAug 03 01:48
mateyhes going to remain a hostageAug 03 01:48
mateylike assange in the embassyAug 03 01:48
mateygranted he was taking refuge there, it was only incidentally a prison for himAug 03 01:49
mateymuch nicer than the one hes in nowAug 03 01:49
mateythe embassy wasnt the real prison, only the world outside it wasAug 03 01:49
mateybut that certainly sufficesAug 03 01:49
techrights-newsJust that same promotional FUD from Atlas VPN, using the wrong yardstick and a fake "model" of security https://www.esecurityplanet.com/threats/new-linux-malware-surges/Aug 03 01:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-New Linux Malware Surges, Surpassing Android | eSecurityPlanetAug 03 01:50
mateylike torvalds, hes more "diplomatic" nowAug 03 01:50
techrights-newsProper GNU/Linux lets you do far more, plus it does not spy on you https://www.aboutchromebooks.com/opinion/why-i-use-a-chromebook/Aug 03 01:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.aboutchromebooks.com | Why I use a ChromebookAug 03 01:50
mateyhe says what he knows he can say. its a lot less than he used to sayAug 03 01:50
schestowitz[TR2]now?Aug 03 01:50
schestowitz[TR2]waitAug 03 01:51
schestowitz[TR2]why NOW?Aug 03 01:51
mateygo aheadAug 03 01:51
schestowitz[TR2]maybe more so now?Aug 03 01:51
schestowitz[TR2]after they bullie himAug 03 01:51
mateyi dont understand the questionAug 03 01:51
schestowitz[TR2]*cry)bullied Aug 03 01:51
mateythats my pointAug 03 01:51
mateyif i get what youre sayingAug 03 01:51
schestowitz[TR2]okAug 03 01:51
mateytorvalds wasnt more "diplomatic" until they made a hostage out of himAug 03 01:51
mateytorvalds was a great guy, but he was better than the new shillsAug 03 01:51
mateywasnt ^Aug 03 01:51
mateywasnt a great guy, but WAS better than those who would replace himAug 03 01:52
schestowitz[TR2]it's a "Reards" systemAug 03 01:52
mateythey made him more diplomaticAug 03 01:52
schestowitz[TR2]be more like this, get bullied lessAug 03 01:52
mateyexctlyAug 03 01:52
mateysame with stallman, thats how i predicted itAug 03 01:52
schestowitz[TR2]this = [add your conformist attributes here]Aug 03 01:52
mateyi knew it would follow the same trajectory as torvaldsAug 03 01:52
mateyand torvalds came back tooAug 03 01:52
mateybut the real torvalds never didAug 03 01:53
schestowitz[TR2]wow, 1:52am, managed to catch up with feedsAug 03 01:53
mateyhe will always be torvalds-liteAug 03 01:53
schestowitz[TR2]recovering from that massive 6-hour outage and still resorring the raspiAug 03 01:53
schestowitz[TR2]it'll take another half dayAug 03 01:53
mateydont you use it only for serving geminiAug 03 01:53
schestowitz[TR2]yesAug 03 01:53
mateyi mean ifpsAug 03 01:53
schestowitz[TR2]it's back online since yesterday eveningAug 03 01:54
mateyipfsAug 03 01:54
schestowitz[TR2]but missing some months' of poages, I copy theem across now from backupAug 03 01:54
mateyokAug 03 01:54
schestowitz[TR2]ipfs alsoAug 03 01:54
DaemonFCOkay, I gave the bathroom its once every 3 month chemical nuking.Aug 03 01:54
schestowitz[TR2]but it's les urgentAug 03 01:54
DaemonFCI have a serious, serious, mold problem in there unless I use that microban stuff.Aug 03 01:55
mateyyeah i guess reimaging is harder for a pi, and i/o makes syncing a bitchAug 03 01:55
DaemonFCIt stops it from growing for a few months.Aug 03 01:55
schestowitz[TR2]the only 'good' thing about the outage was, they finally find the source of this past issue and fixed it... had to dig up a giant hold and replace cableAug 03 01:55
schestowitz[TR2]*holeAug 03 01:55
mateyniceAug 03 01:55
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mateyso the fsf model was parrot what we sayAug 03 01:56
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mateyand they didAug 03 01:56
mateythen they beat a new personality into stallmanAug 03 01:56
mateynice job, ladsAug 03 01:56
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mateynow the fsf model is bow to lieplanet and stallman wont say shitAug 03 01:56
mateyand the parrots, the loyalists, also wont say shitAug 03 01:56
mateybut the parrotmaster is dead Aug 03 01:56
mateyi should point out, stallman didnt intentionally create an army of parrots. hes been very clear he didnt want even one!Aug 03 01:57
mateyplease dont give me a parrotAug 03 01:57
mateybut he got thousandsAug 03 01:57
mateyhe should have created an army of replacement stallmansAug 03 01:58
mateyeasier said then done. parrots are easy.Aug 03 01:58
mateyalmost as easy as snakes (far side reference: man, these are a cinch!)Aug 03 01:58
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mateyone the innocent but misguided assumptions stallman worked with was thinking that people would start thinking for themselves if he gave them the right ideasAug 03 02:00
mateythen for years, people either argued with him or climbed over each other to agreeAug 03 02:00
mateyits better than nothing, look at how far we gotAug 03 02:00
mateybut its not sustainableAug 03 02:01
mateyand what we have in its place isnt betterAug 03 02:01
mateyits complete bullshitAug 03 02:01
mateybut theoretically it solves every problem they thought free software hadAug 03 02:01
mateymost of which has fuck all to do with free softwareAug 03 02:01
mateyso hooray for thatAug 03 02:02
mateyif truth parrots dont a sustainable movement make, the bullshit pigs arent an upgradeAug 03 02:02
mateythey rode in on "any problem is fixable if you ram a solution down peoples throats"Aug 03 02:03
mateybasically they came in like systemdAug 03 02:03
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mateyeven ibm was thereAug 03 02:04
mateyin red hat formAug 03 02:04
mateyany SUCCESSFUL effort to build another fsfAug 03 02:05
mateywill have to consider these thingsAug 03 02:05
mateyotherwise theyre just building another osiAug 03 02:05
MinceR03 025050 < techrights-news> Proper GNU/Linux lets you do far more, plus it does not spy on you https://www.aboutchromebooks.com/opinion/why-i-use-a-chromebook/Aug 03 02:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.aboutchromebooks.com | Why I use a ChromebookAug 03 02:05
MinceRafaik you can run GNU/Linux on thoseAug 03 02:06
MinceRand they aren't burdened with uefiAug 03 02:06
mateywhat about systemdAug 03 02:06
mateya lot of gnu/linux distros are x86 onlyAug 03 02:06
mateyand a lot of distros are systemd onlyAug 03 02:07
MinceRah yes, Torvalds® Lite™, the useless editionAug 03 02:07
mateydevuan i suppose, supports the pi for exampleAug 03 02:07
mateyi tried to run it on a pi and gave upAug 03 02:07
mateyit was probably my fault, though the docs didnt helpAug 03 02:07
MinceRno longer daring to tell anyone who submits shitty design implemented in a shitty way that their design is shitty, their implementation is shitty, and it's not getting mergedAug 03 02:07
mateyi got debian running on itAug 03 02:07
MinceRand so now you can consider yourself lucky if the damned kernel even boots at allAug 03 02:08
mateyi used that computer a handful of timesAug 03 02:08
MinceR03 030626 < matey> what about systemdAug 03 02:08
MinceRno systemd needed, also not included in chrome OS, afaikAug 03 02:08
MinceRand there are x86 chromebooksAug 03 02:08
ulfit's shitty "free software" cannot easily be developed on cost-effective systems anymoreAug 03 02:08
matey/me nodsAug 03 02:08
ulfthanks to GNU toolchainAug 03 02:08
MinceRmaybe try SBCL thenAug 03 02:09
mateyi made getting away from linux my first priority, and getting away from x86 my second priorityAug 03 02:09
mateyhow to do both at once i dont knowAug 03 02:09
mateyi believe we can do bothAug 03 02:09
MinceRi wonder if my priorities even matter anymoreAug 03 02:09
ulfmy frist priority, getting away from GNU toolchainAug 03 02:09
MinceRi've got my ExpertBook unbricked and now if i hold the initramfs' hand _very_ tightly, i can get it to boot GNU/LinuxAug 03 02:09
mateymy priorities are going okay. i have an extensible text editor like emacs, with only 46k of codeAug 03 02:10
MinceRdracut being practically undocumented isn't exactly helpingAug 03 02:10
mateyits becoming extremely powerfulAug 03 02:10
mateybut other than how ridiculously flexible it is, its modest as fuck Aug 03 02:10
mateyand most people would laugh at it if they tried itAug 03 02:10
mateyi use it every day and fucking love itAug 03 02:10
matey dracut being practically undocumented isn't exactly helping <- i already gave up on microsoft voidAug 03 02:11
mateybut if someone forked it, i would understand. its got to be more ready for that than a lot of other optionsAug 03 02:11
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mateyi mean they start from that side, like gentoo starts from that sideAug 03 02:12
techrights-newsLinks 02/08/2022: Go 1.19, GNU Octave 7.2, and Tails 5.3.1 | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/08/02/tails-5-3-1/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/08/02/tails-5-3-1/Aug 03 02:12
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mateycredit where credit is dueAug 03 02:12
techrights-newsSecurity Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167944Aug 03 02:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux MachinesAug 03 02:12
techrights-newsProgramming Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167945Aug 03 02:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux MachinesAug 03 02:13
techrights-newsToday’s 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167946Aug 03 02:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesAug 03 02:13
ulfMinceR: linux kernel isn't written in LISP, GNU utilities aren'tAug 03 02:14
ulfwhat would i want with LISP? not using emacs.Aug 03 02:14
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techrights-newsLinux Mint 21 XFCE Run Through - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=VT4tY4eSgII | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/VT4tY4eSgIIAug 03 02:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Linux Mint 21 XFCE Run Through - InvidiousAug 03 02:15
techrights-news"Debian builds minimal SD card images for these machines already, but I wanted to use the usual ext4-on-LVM-on-LUKS setup for GNU/Linux workstations. So I used Consfigurator to build a custom image." https://spwhitton.name//blog/entry/rpi4-consfigurator/Aug 03 02:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-spwhitton.name | Setting up a single-board desktop replacement with ConsfiguratorAug 03 02:16
ulfGNU/FSF paid little to no attention to what's important, with free software, which is developing it must be fun, efficient, cost-effectiveAug 03 02:17
ulfa big corporation doesn't bother with an electricity bill of thousands of cashAug 03 02:18
ulfstudents and independent developers however doAug 03 02:18
mateyi've got my ExpertBook unbricked and now if i hold the initramfs' hand _very_ tightly, i can get it to boot GNU/LinuxAug 03 02:18
mateythere must a reason youre putting that much effort into that particular machine, so what it isAug 03 02:19
mateyis itAug 03 02:19
DaemonFCI finally got Mandy to agree to eat liver and onions tomorrow.Aug 03 02:20
techrights-newsUEFI Firmware Vulnerable to Malware Implants; Worse Than “Legacy BIOS” Ever Was | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/08/02/uefi-malware-implants/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/08/02/uefi-malware-implants/Aug 03 02:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | UEFI Firmware Vulnerable to Malware Implants; Worse Than “Legacy BIOS” Ever Was | TechrightsAug 03 02:22
Ariadnei replaced my entire usecase for wordpress with 3 lines of shell scriptingAug 03 02:28
Ariadnespecifically, these three lines: https://gitea.treehouse.systems/ariadne/ariadne.space/src/branch/main/.woodpecker.yml#L15-L17Aug 03 02:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gitea.treehouse.systems | ariadne.space/.woodpecker.yml at main - ariadne.space - Treehouse GiteaAug 03 02:28
matey i replaced my entire usecase for wordpress with 3 lines of shell scripting <- more with lessAug 03 02:28
schestowitz[TR2]you can make it one lineAug 03 02:28
schestowitz[TR2]and it would still look goodAug 03 02:29
matey3 lines is easier to editAug 03 02:29
mateyand just as goodAug 03 02:29
MinceR03 031421 < ulf> MinceR: linux kernel isn't written in LISP, GNU utilities aren'tAug 03 02:29
MinceRi thought you didn't want to use those?Aug 03 02:29
schestowitz[TR2]Ariadne: alpine has some gemini serversAug 03 02:29
MinceR03 031907 < matey> there must a reason youre putting that much effort into that particular machine, so what it isAug 03 02:29
mateylike she cares about geminiAug 03 02:29
schestowitz[TR2]apk add .. serverAug 03 02:29
MinceRit's very light and very expensiveAug 03 02:29
schestowitz[TR2]same for clients, I saw at least two, installed oneAug 03 02:29
MinceRalso, the most powerful machine i have in a non-gaming roleAug 03 02:29
schestowitz[TR2]matey: she doesAug 03 02:29
matey/me nodsAug 03 02:30
mateyno, she thinks gemini is a joke, unless she changed her mindAug 03 02:30
mateywhich is fine either way, just sayingAug 03 02:30
MinceRvery light means i can keep it on my person the most, thus safeguarding its physical security the mostAug 03 02:30
mateyi think gemini is awesome but its not her sort of thingAug 03 02:30
schestowitz[TR2]we'll make tuxmachines serve over gemini too, but lots of pagesAug 03 02:30
schestowitz[TR2]you just export to gmi, just like html, into the /home/gemini/gemini directoryAug 03 02:30
schestowitz[TR2]and then sort out the indexAug 03 02:30
schestowitz[TR2]and the workflowAug 03 02:30
schestowitz[TR2]two very major incidents today delayed progressAug 03 02:31
mateyincidentally, compared to wordpress, 3 lines of script essentially IS a one-linerAug 03 02:31
mateyits the equivalentAug 03 02:32
ulfMinceR: yes, i want to remove as many GNU as possible, GNU toolchain in particularAug 03 02:32
ulftheir compilerAug 03 02:33
AriadnewhyAug 03 02:33
ulfmoment, MinceR, if you know any other kernel which doens't require a GNU or Mapple compiler and supports relevant hardwareAug 03 02:34
ulfAriadne: it's not free software, and it's bad qualityAug 03 02:34
matey<MinceR> very light means i can keep it on my person the most, thus safeguarding its physical security the most <- very trueAug 03 02:34
Ariadneulf: i'm with you on the quality, but "not free software" ?Aug 03 02:34
mateyi had a slim plastic notebook like thatAug 03 02:34
techrights-news"Thanks to Garrett enabling Microsoft to avoid the coming lawsuits that would have happened had Security Theater Boot stopped a Windows 8 laptop from allowing Linux to boot up, today if a person tries to boot a Linux kernel" http://techrights.org/2022/08/02/uefi-malware-implants/Aug 03 02:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | UEFI Firmware Vulnerable to Malware Implants; Worse Than “Legacy BIOS” Ever Was | TechrightsAug 03 02:34
mateyalmost flimsy, but other than the storage (one of those ssd modules) i had no complaintsAug 03 02:35
mateyid probably still have that, but reasonsAug 03 02:35
mateyat one point i got rid of most (not all) of my hardwareAug 03 02:35
schestowitz[TR2]we might add an array to the piAug 03 02:35
schestowitz[TR2]had to recuilt twice in 18 months, microsd cards are toysAug 03 02:36
schestowitz[TR2]even the big brand namesAug 03 02:36
schestowitz[TR2]*ebuildAug 03 02:36
ulfAriadne: there isn't any "freedom of choice" with LLVM or GCC, one criteria, it's vendor-locked and anti-competitive maliceAug 03 02:36
mateyive moved internationally before, when i do i throw out most of my stuff (i give away what i can)Aug 03 02:36
Ariadneulf: *shrug* alpine maintains its own gcc branchesAug 03 02:37
techrights-newsPart 2: How to automate graphics production with Inkscape - Máirín Duffy ⚓ https://blog.linuxgrrl.com/2022/08/02/part-2-how-to-automate-graphics-production-with-inkscape/ ䷉ Source: linuxgrrl | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.linuxgrrl.com/2022/08/02/part-2-how-to-automate-graphics-production-with-inkscape/Aug 03 02:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.linuxgrrl.com | Part 2: How to automate graphics production with Inkscape – Máirín DuffyAug 03 02:37
mateyi dont own much that i ever spent much money on, roy and i have similar spending habits when it comes to equipmentAug 03 02:37
mateyonly he gets into details. but its similarAug 03 02:37
ulfAriadne: simple question. Is there any alternative to llvm or gcc which could compile alpine linux?Aug 03 02:37
mateyi actually have a real server. but i didnt spent much on itAug 03 02:37
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mateyi used to have an old compaq server with hw raid, one of the famous but ancient onesAug 03 02:38
mateyi ran debian on itAug 03 02:38
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techrights-newsReading typewriter key presses with an Arduino | Arduino Blog ⚓ https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/08/03/reading-typewriter-key-presses-with-an-arduino/ ䷉ Source: Arduino | Hardware | OpenHardware | Hacking | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.arduino.cc/2022/08/03/reading-typewriter-key-presses-with-an-arduino/Aug 03 02:38
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mateyand used it as a table for a coffee machineAug 03 02:38
Ariadneulf: probably not, but we dont source gcc from FSFAug 03 02:38
mateybut it weight half what i do, and i didnt keep it foreverAug 03 02:38
techrights-newsSteam :: Steam Deck :: Steam Deck Client Update and SteamOS 3.3 ⚓ https://steamcommunity.com/games/1675200/announcements/detail/3401924854795478415 ䷉ Source: steamcommunity | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//steamcommunity.com/games/1675200/announcements/detail/3401924854795478415Aug 03 02:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-steamcommunity.com | Steam :: Steam Deck :: Steam Deck Client Update and SteamOS 3.3Aug 03 02:38
mateyi actually have a real server <- i was only looking for a desktop. but it was cheap and didnt weigh as much as the old oneAug 03 02:39
mateyi used it as a search engine for trisquel source code (github related)Aug 03 02:39
mateyi could have used a laptop but it would have cost more Aug 03 02:40
schestowitz[TR2]I might make a 3-drive array on the piAug 03 02:45
matey :)Aug 03 02:45
schestowitz[TR2]from a security POV, riskyAug 03 02:45
mateywhy is that bad securityAug 03 02:45
schestowitz[TR2]open ssh port, access to my backups via USBAug 03 02:45
schestowitz[TR2]usually I disconnect my drives when not usedAug 03 02:45
schestowitz[TR2]but I'm tired of rebuilding the piAug 03 02:46
schestowitz[TR2]3rd time in 20 monthsAug 03 02:46
Ariadnehave you considered not using SD cardsAug 03 02:46
schestowitz[TR2]take s a long time with about 150k files and dirs on itAug 03 02:46
Ariadnethey arent very reliableAug 03 02:46
schestowitz[TR2]Ariadne: yesAug 03 02:46
schestowitz[TR2]this was the last strawAug 03 02:46
schestowitz[TR2]not even sure if the outsage caused itAug 03 02:47
Ariadnethat was literally an FAQ entry for pleromaAug 03 02:47
mateythere must be a solution to this that doesnt Aug 03 02:47
schestowitz[TR2]I also took it off wifi, it uses ethernet nowAug 03 02:47
matey/me thinks of it, but roy wouldnt do it anywayAug 03 02:47
schestowitz[TR2]but for other reasonsAug 03 02:47
schestowitz[TR2]matey: I'm already doing itAug 03 02:48
schestowitz[TR2]it runs on USB nowAug 03 02:48
schestowitz[TR2]and is connected to an external USB driveAug 03 02:48
mateyyeah but the one with your backupsAug 03 02:48
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schestowitz[TR2]it's 3 am here and I cleanedmy rss feeds, so I have time to play wittth itAug 03 02:48
mateyand youre using synerrrrrgy againAug 03 02:48
schestowitz[TR2]yeahAug 03 02:48
schestowitz[TR2]alwaysAug 03 02:49
schestowitz[TR2]actually, on this machine it is barrierAug 03 02:49
matey/me thinks it should be called synerrrrrrgyAug 03 02:49
schestowitz[TR2]synergy is for older machines I connect tiAug 03 02:49
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mateyto err is human. to errrrrrrrrr synergyAug 03 02:49
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mateybut no one hates synergy more than herr doctorAug 03 02:51
mateybecause it requires c++++++++++++++++++Aug 03 02:51
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mateywhich funnily enough was the working title before they named it javaAug 03 02:51
mateyit went like this: "d++?" "no, that sounds like a bad grade"Aug 03 02:52
matey"e++? f++? ... r++? s++? T++?" "wait"Aug 03 02:53
techrights-news✩░▒▓▆▅▃▂▁𝐁𝐔𝐋𝐋𝐄𝐓𝐈𝐍▁▂▃▅▆▓▒░✩ Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! 🅷🆃🆃🅿: http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-08-02.txt | 🅶🅴🅼🅸🅽🅸 gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-08-02.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)Aug 03 02:53
matey"tea plus plus?"Aug 03 02:53
matey"when tea isnt enough, i drink coffee..."Aug 03 02:53
mateyeveryone: "JAVA!"Aug 03 02:53
mateyand thats how they completely made up the story about how java got its nameAug 03 02:53
mateyand by they, i mean meAug 03 02:53
mateybut also it was aliensAug 03 02:54
MinceR03 035153 < matey> which funnily enough was the working title before they named it javaAug 03 02:55
MinceRthat was OakAug 03 02:55
mateyoakayAug 03 02:55
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matey but also it was alien <- aliens are the new explanation for everything, because "it was god" sounds so old fashionedAug 03 02:56
mateyaliens sound more technically plausibleAug 03 02:56
mateyomnipotent being that created everything? stupidAug 03 02:56
mateyvery powerful beings who are far away but share few of our values? that sounds like it could be a thingAug 03 02:56
mateyso it might not explain the universe itself, but everything else can be explained by aliensAug 03 02:57
mateyits pretty damned convenientAug 03 02:57
mateywhere are my socks?Aug 03 02:57
mateyaliens.Aug 03 02:57
matey"what if it was god?"Aug 03 02:57
matey"pfft! thats completely unscientific"Aug 03 02:57
mateybut aliens are not just possible, theyre LIKELYAug 03 02:57
mateySTEPHEN HAWKING SAID SOAug 03 02:57
MinceRhttps://sd.keepcalms.com/i-w600/i-m-not-saying-it-was-aliens-but-it-was-aliens.jpgAug 03 02:58
mateyso "aliens" is like "god" but you sound like less of an idiotAug 03 02:58
mateyonly now you sound crazy...Aug 03 02:58
MinceRalien godsAug 03 02:58
matey https://sd.keepcalms.com/i-w600/i-m-not-saying-it-was-aliens-but-it-was-aliens.jpg <- it was totally aliensAug 03 02:58
matey<MinceR> alien godsAug 03 02:59
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matey <- or maybe just aliens with a religious bentAug 03 02:59
MinceRhttps://i.pinimg.com/originals/dc/bf/93/dcbf935d28b946302dc84897d8f8cb09.gifAug 03 02:59
techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▅▆▅▅▆▅▅▄▅▅▅▃▅▅▆▇▄▅▇▆▅▅▆▆▆▆▂▂▃▆▅▄▁ avg(k/sec) 26.91 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▁▁▁▂▁▂▁▁▁▂▂▂▁▂▁▂▂▂▂▂▁▂▂▃▁▁█▁▂▂▂▁▁ avg(k/sec) 28.10▕ swarm size (avg): 0  ⟲Aug 03 02:59
MinceRor aliens that like to subjugate other people by making them believe they're godsAug 03 02:59
mateyi knew someone who dated this guy that got REALLY high on SOMETHING and burst into a nearby tent and saidAug 03 02:59
matey"FUCK ME, IM GOD!"Aug 03 02:59
MinceRlolAug 03 02:59
mateyhis transgressions did not go further than that. but thats definitely the sort of thing he would have been cancelled for if he was in the foss communityAug 03 03:00
mateybut i think the whole "alien gods" thing is either a misunderstanding-- or the aliens having a good time, as it wereAug 03 03:00
matey"hehe, tell them we are their gods"Aug 03 03:00
mateyOHHO HO, GOOD ONE!"Aug 03 03:00
matey"we demand a sacrifice!"Aug 03 03:01
MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/HjAKZ.jpgAug 03 03:01
mateyaww, kitty knows the truthAug 03 03:01
mateyim not saying it was aliens, but it was OOH, LASER BEAM!Aug 03 03:02
mateythis is why cats make terrible conspiracy theoristsAug 03 03:02
mateyyou can silence them with nothing but a laser keychainAug 03 03:02
MinceRhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ehL5DF6BqUAug 03 03:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://y.com.sb/watch?v=6ehL5DF6BqUAug 03 03:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> y.com.sb | Ancient Egyptian Laser Beams - InvidiousAug 03 03:03
mateywell, silent except for the sound of paws flying at a wall at mach 2Aug 03 03:03
mateyIT REALLY HAPPENSAug 03 03:04
mateyim not saying it was egyptians, but it was egyptiansAug 03 03:05
mateyand this is how cats learned of the secret, because not only were they venerated, they were also privy to an endless number of ancient egyptian secrets-- including how to get whites brighter while colours stay fast (which they later taught to the ancient chinese)Aug 03 03:06
mateycalgon is based on thousands of years of study of egyptian alchemyAug 03 03:07
mateyits original formula turned all cloth tyrian purple, but obviously it was altered to create the product people know todayAug 03 03:07
mateybut the secret to calgon is that its basically the philosophers stone in powdered formAug 03 03:08
mateyits not just cleaning your clothes-- its making them immortal (for a while at least)Aug 03 03:09
mateymany people who find this out wonder if they can just use calgon to become immortalAug 03 03:11
mateyand the answer is of course not, because look at all the shit they add to itAug 03 03:11
mateytide pods on the other hand, will make you immortal if they dont kill youAug 03 03:12
mateyand they look delicious!Aug 03 03:12
mateybut the therapeutic dose is pretty high, and it will probably kill you before it worksAug 03 03:13
mateysome people think tide pods are a scam, because they only "work" on someone who could survive extensive tide pod poisoning in the first placeAug 03 03:14
mateyie someone who was already immortalAug 03 03:14
mateybut thats the kind of crude humour you should expect from alien godsAug 03 03:14
mateyseriously, theyre dicksAug 03 03:14
*MinceR uses Calgon to turn Earth into TyrianAug 03 03:16
*MinceR uses Gravitium to leave the planetAug 03 03:16
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matey/me always knew mincer was an alien godAug 03 03:22
mateyhe has that dispositionAug 03 03:22
mateyalso he has a spaceship that looks like a colon and greater than signAug 03 03:23
mateybut thanks to elon musk and jeff bezos you can order shit like that online and have it delivered nowAug 03 03:23
MinceRlolAug 03 03:23
matey=================== :>   Aug 03 03:24
mateyis that a black triangle? no, its just mincerAug 03 03:24
mateytrying to get to away from this stupid planetAug 03 03:24
mateywait till i tell britney theres a third race of superbeings icke didnt tell her aboutAug 03 03:26
matey"theres the hive mind and the reptilians"Aug 03 03:26
mateyyes, but what about the cynical bastard aliens from planet x?Aug 03 03:26
matey"ive never heard of them"Aug 03 03:26
techrights-newsPenn Engineers Create Chip That Can Process and Classify Nearly Two Billion Images per Second - Penn Engineering Blog ⚓ https://blog.seas.upenn.edu/penn-engineers-create-chip-that-can-process-and-classify-nearly-two-billion-images-per-second/ ䷉ Source: seasAug 03 03:26
matey"they literally control the irc channel!"Aug 03 03:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.seas.upenn.edu | Penn Engineers Create Chip That Can Process and Classify Nearly Two Billion Images per Second - Penn Engineering BlogAug 03 03:26
techrights-newsSweet research: UC chemist unlocks secrets of molten salts | University Of Cincinnati ⚓ https://www.uc.edu/news/articles/2022/07/sweet-research--uc-chemist-unlocks-secrets-of-molten-salts.html ䷉ Source: uc | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.uc.edu/news/articles/2022/07/sweet-research--uc-chemist-unlocks-secrets-of-molten-salts.htmlAug 03 03:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.uc.edu | Sweet research: UC chemist unlocks secrets of molten salts | University Of CincinnatiAug 03 03:28
matey/ne isnt saying ariadne is one of themAug 03 03:28
mateybut shes probably one of themAug 03 03:28
Ariadnewhat?Aug 03 03:29
schestowitz[TR2]exactlyAug 03 03:30
mateymincer is actually a member of a superintelligent race from planet xAug 03 03:30
schestowitz[TR2]matey: don't entertain this nonsenseAug 03 03:30
mateythey literally control the irc channelAug 03 03:30
mateyi figure if mincer is, youre probably in on itAug 03 03:30
matey<schestowitz[TR2]> matey: don't entertain this nonsense <- hey, its still less silly than open sourceAug 03 03:30
schestowitz[TR2]btw we're working on a mega-series on epo corruptionAug 03 03:31
schestowitz[TR2]connected to macedoniaAug 03 03:31
matey<schestowitz[TR2]> connected to macedonia <- the country or the alternate dimension?Aug 03 03:31
schestowitz[TR2]when I'm done rsynching the whole gemini capsule we'll need to figure out how to put all the data on multiple disksAug 03 03:31
schestowitz[TR2]the countryAug 03 03:33
mateyoh, goodAug 03 03:33
schestowitz[TR2]all this david icke stuff can only ube used to discredit "techrights"Aug 03 03:33
mateyi really dont think anyone cares* unless you start writing articles about itAug 03 03:33
matey* except possibly mjg, and probably not even himAug 03 03:34
schestowitz[TR2]he digs shit in ircAug 03 03:34
mateyand no one cares that he caresAug 03 03:34
mateyyeah i dont think julia reda is going to start a campaign to seize your dns because someone chats about aliens hereAug 03 03:34
DaemonFCThe guy who played Bob Pogo in F is for Family got a DUI last month in Ohio.Aug 03 03:34
techrights-news"Information camouflage is when piece of information A has a name similar to another, very different, much more popular piece B. This makes searching for A difficult because you always get results for B instead." https://buttondown.email/hillelwayne/archive/information-camouflage/Aug 03 03:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-buttondown.email | Information camouflage • ButtondownAug 03 03:34
mateybut if she ever does, ill fight to get you back onlineAug 03 03:35
DaemonFCI don't know what their state laws are on a DUI. Many states are a shit sandwich as soon as the police pull you over and ask if you've been drinking.Aug 03 03:35
mateyseriouslyAug 03 03:35
schestowitz[TR2]julian reda fell off the radarAug 03 03:35
mateyyeah destroying your credibility does thatAug 03 03:35
mateywhat a disappointment tooAug 03 03:35
DaemonFCIn Georgia, you can say "No, I haven't." and blow 0.0 on the breathalyzer, and they can still charge you with DUI and arrest you right there.Aug 03 03:35
schestowitz[TR2]one thing you cannot say about TR or me is,Aug 03 03:36
mateyi left the pirates and joined the ninja partyAug 03 03:36
schestowitz[TR2]we became irrelevantAug 03 03:36
schestowitz[TR2]we've managed to stay in the 'war' for many yearsAug 03 03:36
DaemonFCIt's best to just drive friendly and not gain the attention of the police.Aug 03 03:36
schestowitz[TR2]and adapted when necessaryAug 03 03:36
DaemonFCIf you see a checkpoint, don't turn to avoid it. Don't act suspiciously.Aug 03 03:36
mateywell, if by relevant you mean no one ever shut you upAug 03 03:36
DaemonFCJust go through and let them shine their flashlight in your car. The checkpoint is a ruse.Aug 03 03:36
mateythats absolutely indisputableAug 03 03:36
schestowitz[TR2]matey: it's multii-facetedAug 03 03:37
schestowitz[TR2]you look at example of activists who vanishedAug 03 03:37
DaemonFCIt's to see if you'll do something "suspicious" like quickly turn down another street to avoid them.Aug 03 03:37
techrights-newsScientists expand entomological research using genome editing | Hiroshima University ⚓ https://www.hiroshima-u.ac.jp/en/news/72144 ䷉ Source: hiroshima-u | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.hiroshima-u.ac.jp/en/news/72144Aug 03 03:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.hiroshima-u.ac.jp | Scientists expand entomological research using genome editing | Hiroshima UniversityAug 03 03:37
schestowitz[TR2]one of them is still in a prison in londonAug 03 03:37
Ariadnei mean lets be real, you're fucking with small fish not big fishAug 03 03:37
DaemonFCThen they have hidden cop cars that pull you over and they ask "Why did you turn to avoid that checkpoint? Hmmm?".Aug 03 03:37
Ariadneif you were fucking with big fish you'd be gone by nowAug 03 03:37
mateyfish on the way out, like gravelyAug 03 03:37
schestowitz[TR2]Ariadne: trueAug 03 03:37
schestowitz[TR2]I try not to mess with UK gov.Aug 03 03:37
schestowitz[TR2]or with anything militaryAug 03 03:37
DaemonFCIt's horrible being charged with a crime, even if they have absolutely no evidence to take to court.Aug 03 03:38
AriadneokAug 03 03:38
schestowitz[TR2]DaemonFC: see montenegroAug 03 03:38
schestowitz[TR2]they make up chargesAug 03 03:38
DaemonFCThe mere accusation can get people fired or make them homeless long before a court ever sorts out what the police bring to them.Aug 03 03:38
schestowitz[TR2]and convict you anywayAug 03 03:38
schestowitz[TR2]like in moscowAug 03 03:38
AdmFubarhttps://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/technology/movie-torrents-hijacked-to-send-tips-on-bypassing-russian-censorship/Aug 03 03:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bleepingcomputer.com | Movie torrents hijacked to send tips on bypassing Russian censorshipAug 03 03:39
matey/me hopes that dude gets his ring back from putinAug 03 03:39
mateythis guy who won the superbowl met putin, and just to be a dick, putin took his ringAug 03 03:39
mateyand his bodyguards said it was a "gift"Aug 03 03:39
mateyie he wasnt getting it backAug 03 03:39
MinceRsmall fish, big fish, red fish, blue fishAug 03 03:39
mateyreptilian fishAug 03 03:40
MinceRlolAug 03 03:40
schestowitz[TR2]https://rsf.org/en/montenegro-convicts-jovo-martinović-again-jeopardizing-eu-accessionAug 03 03:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rsf.org | Montenegro convicts Jovo Martinović again, jeopardizing EU accession | RSFAug 03 03:40
mateyi doubt the guy ever gets his ring backAug 03 03:40
schestowitz[TR2]"Reporters Without Borders (RSF) is appalled by the one-year prison sentence that investigative reporter Jovo Martinović received on a drug trafficking charge at the end of his retrial in Montenegro today. The country’s judicial system must stop persecuting this journalist and finally take account of all the evidence of his innocence, RSF said.Aug 03 03:40
schestowitz[TR2]In the latest stage in his Kafkaesque ordeal, Jovo Martinović was convicted of serving as an intermediary between drug traffickers. He has always maintained that his contacts with drug traffickers were purely journalistic in nature and were conducted solely for the purposes of his reporting."Aug 03 03:40
mateybut when they finally take care of putin, i hope he gets his ringAug 03 03:40
schestowitz[TR2]he "insulted" his leaderAug 03 03:40
schestowitz[TR2]afai, fwiw, assange never went to the usAug 03 03:40
mateyits just ridiculousAug 03 03:40
MinceRthey could make a ring out of putler's remainsAug 03 03:40
mateythey could, thats a thingAug 03 03:41
DaemonFCInsulting the president is not illegal.Aug 03 03:41
DaemonFCWhich is good.Aug 03 03:41
mateybut i doubt the guy wants to wear putin on his... ew...Aug 03 03:41
schestowitz[TR2]so he is dealing with a country foreign to him, gets in trouble. but when doing this to country he visits, then don't charge him.Aug 03 03:41
DaemonFC78% of Americans would be in deep shit with this guy in office.Aug 03 03:41
schestowitz[TR2]apropos, KSAAug 03 03:41
DaemonFCNobody things Biden is doing a good job unless they're sitting in San Francisco in a bathrobe huffing their own farts.Aug 03 03:42
DaemonFC*thinksAug 03 03:42
schestowitz[TR2]<techrights-news> "The video received backlash on social media and a hashtag denigrating her that translates into "Tala offends society" circulated on Twitter" ☛ https://news.yahoo.com/saudi-police-arrest-egyptian-tiktoker-211506955.html | Source: Yahoo NewsAug 03 03:42
schestowitz[TR2]-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- news.yahoo.com | Saudi police arrest Egyptian TikToker with millions of followers for video they claim had 'sexual content'Aug 03 03:42
schestowitz[TR2]<techrights-news> "The Saudi Public Security authority's official Twitter posted a statement Monday" ☛ https://www.insider.com/tala-safwan-tiktoker-youtuber-arrested-livestream-riyadh-police-2022-7 | Source: Business InsiderAug 03 03:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.yahoo.com | Saudi police arrest Egyptian TikToker with millions of followers for video they claim had 'sexual content'Aug 03 03:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.insider.com | Egyptian Influencer Tala Safwan Arrested for 'Sexual' TikTok StreamAug 03 03:42
mateyi think its more to do with the fact that the usa mistakes itself for god in this contextAug 03 03:42
schestowitz[TR2]posted in -social yesterdayAug 03 03:42
mateya lot of places wouldnt go to this much trouble over a journalistAug 03 03:42
mateyi mean the saudis do...Aug 03 03:42
mateybut for example, if you did this to north korea youd probably be fineAug 03 03:42
mateyas long as you never went too close to north korea, obviouslyAug 03 03:42
DaemonFCGULAG's cadre is probably the last group in America throwing their own money away on candidates that are about to lose.Aug 03 03:43
MinceR03 044117 < matey> but i doubt the guy wants to wear putin on his... ew...Aug 03 03:43
DaemonFCI can't bring myself to vote for either candidate for Illinois governor. I don't want to support that either way it goes.Aug 03 03:43
MinceRwell, ideally they can get the ring backAug 03 03:43
mateySaudi police arrest Egyptian TikToker with millions of followers for video they claim had 'sexual content <- thank god they never saw stallman smelling flowersAug 03 03:43
MinceRbut i don't trust that it's still intact and vladolf still knows where it isAug 03 03:43
mateywhy wouldnt it be? you think the ring said something bad about him in the press?Aug 03 03:44
MinceR03 044202 < DaemonFC> Nobody things Biden is doing a good job unless they're sitting in San Francisco in a bathrobe huffing their own farts.Aug 03 03:44
techrights-newsWhat a ripoff https://www.talospace.com/2022/07/arctic-tern-available-for-purchase.htmlAug 03 03:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.talospace.com | Arctic Tern available for purchaseAug 03 03:44
MinceRunfortunately, biden doesn't need to do a good jobAug 03 03:44
DaemonFCOnly one candidate I supported on the Republican Party ballot won, and so I may just vote for the Supreme Court seat and turn in an otherwise empty ballot, except to vote NO on Amendment 1, which would give public unions bargaining power that contradicts state laws.Aug 03 03:44
MinceRhe just needs to do a job that's less bad than what former president Lex Loser didAug 03 03:44
mateyyeah the bar had to be set low enough for biden to be an actual hero (almost)Aug 03 03:44
MinceR03 044332 < DaemonFC> I can't bring myself to vote for either candidate for Illinois governor. I don't want to support that either way it goes.Aug 03 03:45
mateyand to do that they had to drill thousands of miles past the crust of the earthAug 03 03:45
MinceRyeah, i don't know if there's a point to voting again here in orbanistanAug 03 03:45
mateyfor auld lang syne?Aug 03 03:45
DaemonFCAmendment 1 claims to be an "anti-Right to Work" Amendment, which basically means it would ban local laws that force you to join a labor union, however there already is a statute that prevents local bans on forced union membership. It's terrible. People shouldn't have to be in a labor union they don't support.Aug 03 03:45
MinceReven if the alleged democrats had win, Lobbik Oroszországért and LMP would have gained a big enough fraction of seats that they could have just made a coalition with fideath and MiHasznákAug 03 03:46
DaemonFCBut Amendment 1 goes much farther and makes it legal for state workers to demand labor contracts that go against any other state law.Aug 03 03:46
MinceRit didn't take long for Lobbik and LMP to start backing fidSS after the lost electionAug 03 03:46
mateyLobbik Oroszországért <- this is a noise my stomach makes when i havent eatenAug 03 03:46
DaemonFCTheoretically, they could demand a contract that lets them murder people, and it would be legal for AFSCME members to commit murder.Aug 03 03:46
MinceRthey're lying pieces of shit and hungarians support them, believing them to be part of the oppositionAug 03 03:46
MinceRbecause most hungarians are stupider than rocksAug 03 03:46
DaemonFCBut realistically, what it would mean is they'll demand higher taxes as part of their union contracts.Aug 03 03:46
DaemonFCRight now they demand all kinds of things, but there's no guaranteed funding source.Aug 03 03:47
schestowitz[TR2]matey: paper beats rocksAug 03 03:47
schestowitz[TR2]*mincerAug 03 03:47
DaemonFCWhen the pensions blow up, that's it. No more money.Aug 03 03:47
mateyheheheheheAug 03 03:47
schestowitz[TR2]that's a scary thoughtAug 03 03:47
schestowitz[TR2]see, I can access the pension at 55Aug 03 03:47
schestowitz[TR2]with massive taxAug 03 03:47
DaemonFCThe needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.Aug 03 03:47
schestowitz[TR2]so in theory I need to have enough saved for about 15 yearsAug 03 03:47
MinceRalso, much of the alleged "opposition" happily takes part in corruption on the local government level, in cahoots with fideathAug 03 03:47
schestowitz[TR2]but Tories wreck the NHS and stuff..Aug 03 03:48
DaemonFCThe union members working for the state spent years bankrupting their own pensions.Aug 03 03:48
DaemonFCNow they want millions of people like me to pay even higher taxes.Aug 03 03:48
schestowitz[TR2]https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/06/23/while-ceos-make-millions-and-workers-struggle-union-surge-unsurprising"Aug 03 03:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | While CEOs Make Millions and Workers Struggle, Union Surge Is Unsurprising | Brian WakamoAug 03 03:48
schestowitz[TR2]the ruling class does not want people to be freeAug 03 03:48
schestowitz[TR2]or not work for themAug 03 03:48
schestowitz[TR2]for minimal salaryAug 03 03:48
DaemonFCPublic employees don't work for CEOs with billion dollar salaries.Aug 03 03:48
schestowitz[TR2]and they control banking policiesAug 03 03:48
DaemonFCThey work for me!Aug 03 03:48
mateyOroszországért <- being hungarian CANT actually make this easy to spellAug 03 03:48
DaemonFCI'm tapped out.Aug 03 03:48
DaemonFCI'm voting no on Amendment 1.Aug 03 03:49
matey<MinceR> also, much of the alleged "opposition" happily takes part in corruption on the local government level <- like democrats vs republicansAug 03 03:49
DaemonFCThey can figure out their own fucking mess. They're the ones that installed politicians that kept having "pension holidays".Aug 03 03:49
matey"oh, yeah they overturned roe v wade-- but you can help by voting for us even harder!"Aug 03 03:49
DaemonFCschestowitz[TR2], If you put nothing in it and still want money out of the pot that's not there, is that fair to me? No, it's not fair.Aug 03 03:50
matey"how hard do people have to vote for you to stop supporting the patriot act and illegal wars?"Aug 03 03:50
matey"i dunno. how much money you got?"Aug 03 03:50
DaemonFCThey had 25 years where they should have been contributing, and now they want the damned pension too.Aug 03 03:50
matey"so its about money, not votes"Aug 03 03:51
matey"well yeah, welcome to the 21st century"Aug 03 03:51
MinceR03 044851 < matey> Oroszországért <- being hungarian CANT actually make this easy to spellAug 03 03:51
DaemonFCThat's not how this works! That's not how any of this works! *votes no*Aug 03 03:51
matey"no i know, just making sure"Aug 03 03:51
MinceRit's easyAug 03 03:51
MinceReven if i have to hold altgr to put the accents onAug 03 03:51
mateydefinitely from planet xAug 03 03:51
MinceR03 044939 < matey> <MinceR> also, much of the alleged "opposition" happily takes part in corruption on the local government level <- like democrats vs republicansAug 03 03:51
MinceRusian "democrats" actually stand a chance in electionsAug 03 03:51
MinceRthe hungarians don'tAug 03 03:51
mateyfair pointAug 03 03:51
MinceRespecially not when they keep the likes of Lobbik and LMP in their ranksAug 03 03:52
DaemonFCI'm sorry.....I'm sorry that they don't get their entire pension. I'm sorry that they were so stupid they voted for a string of politicians that let them stop contributing and promised money would come out of nowhere to pay for all of this. I'm sorry they were fools and that's why the pensions are 27% funded.Aug 03 03:52
DaemonFCAnd I'm sorry about what I have to do to them now.Aug 03 03:52
DaemonFCBut they made their bed.Aug 03 03:52
DaemonFCEnough carrot. Time for the stick.Aug 03 03:53
MinceRnoAug 03 03:53
MinceRtime for the asteroidAug 03 03:53
techrights-newsRobots Learn Household Tasks by Watching Humans https://www.scs.cmu.edu/news/2022/whirl-robotsAug 03 03:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.scs.cmu.edu | Robots Learn Household Tasks by Watching HumansAug 03 03:53
MinceRor the gamma ray burstAug 03 03:53
MinceRor the relativistic impactorAug 03 03:53
mateywhy not all of those wrapped into oneAug 03 03:53
MinceRmaybe if humans kick the bucket right now, intelligent life can still evolve in timeAug 03 03:54
mateythe relativistic asteroid... would probably make its own gamma raysAug 03 03:54
mateyand save on gamma billsAug 03 03:54
MinceRit could be an asteroid, it doesn't matterAug 03 03:54
MinceRbut the gamma rays wouldn't be far ahead of it if it's relativisticAug 03 03:54
mateyyeah but you cant be too carefulAug 03 03:54
mateyalso they look really-- i mean they WOULD look really cool, if they were in the visible spectrumAug 03 03:55
MinceRdoesn't matterAug 03 03:56
MinceRthe observers are supposed to die quicklyAug 03 03:56
mateyknowing your luck they probably wontAug 03 03:56
MinceRyeahAug 03 03:56
mateythe stupid thing will probably miss and hit the moon Aug 03 03:56
MinceRbut we're already on the "slow death" trackAug 03 03:56
MinceRso, no news thereAug 03 03:56
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DaemonFC"and ever sense"Aug 03 03:58
DaemonFCDamn autocorrect.Aug 03 03:58
DaemonFCI fixed it on my blog...Aug 03 03:58
DaemonFCStill, one typo in a post that big isn't the worst I've done.Aug 03 03:59
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mateyyou know what would be funnier, is if we evolved into higher beingsAug 03 04:01
mateyand they did rituals where they explored their "inner savage" by dressing up in a suit and tieAug 03 04:02
mateyand imitating the mannerisms of cunts on wall streetAug 03 04:02
matey"i know this is beneath us in a way, but history is important and being in touch with our inner savages teaches us about human nature"Aug 03 04:03
mateyim not going to hinge any plans on itAug 03 04:03
mateybut it would be hilariousAug 03 04:03
matey"BUY! BUY! BUY! SELL! SELL!" Aug 03 04:04
mateythen they dance around a room and foreclose on everyones mortgagesAug 03 04:04
mateythen they drink ceremonial wine and go homeAug 03 04:05
matey"our ancestors were fucking nuts"Aug 03 04:05
matey"you can say that again"Aug 03 04:05
schestowitz[TR2]<matey> "BUY! BUY! BUY! SELL! SELL!" Aug 03 04:06
schestowitz[TR2]and if you get it wrong, bribe officials for a bailout/graftAug 03 04:06
schestowitz[TR2]so when you win, you winAug 03 04:06
schestowitz[TR2]when you lose, it's someone else's problemAug 03 04:06
schestowitz[TR2]ok, i/o on the usb is far too slow for ipfsAug 03 04:07
schestowitz[TR2]but I still hope that some ipfs accelerators will emerge one dayAug 03 04:07
schestowitz[TR2]this shit does not scaleAug 03 04:07
schestowitz[TR2]like the bitcoin experimentAug 03 04:07
schestowitz[TR2]works small in a labAug 03 04:07
schestowitz[TR2]then, when adopted widely, it's not sustinableAug 03 04:07
schestowitz[TR2]you run hundres of power station just to keep this shit runningAug 03 04:08
schestowitz[TR2]*stationsAug 03 04:08
MinceR03 050154 < matey> you know what would be funnier, is if we evolved into higher beingsAug 03 04:08
schestowitz[TR2]and sell too many drives, gpus etc.Aug 03 04:08
MinceRunfortunately, it is also impossibleAug 03 04:08
schestowitz[TR2]driving up their costAug 03 04:08
schestowitz[TR2]we're getting closer to doomAug 03 04:08
MinceR03 050419 < matey> "BUY! BUY! BUY! SELL! SELL!" Aug 03 04:08
schestowitz[TR2]not being a doomer, butAug 03 04:08
matey <MinceR> unfortunately, it is also impossible <- weve done it beforeAug 03 04:08
schestowitz[TR2]it's already living hell for many people. even basics like price of food.Aug 03 04:09
MinceR"you worship the same god as i do, but some of your beliefs are a little different, so NOW I'M GOING TO TORTURE YOU TO DEATH IN THE NAME OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST"Aug 03 04:09
MinceRif you're looking for the inner savage, look thereaboutsAug 03 04:09
mateyi wouldntAug 03 04:09
MinceR03 050845 < matey>  <MinceR> unfortunately, it is also impossible <- weve done it beforeAug 03 04:09
MinceR[citation needed]Aug 03 04:09
mateychristians are at their most savage when greed is a factorAug 03 04:09
schestowitz[TR2]"war in our lifetime" is BS... as there are wars all the time... but now we have two nuclear nations confrontingAug 03 04:10
MinceRgreed is always a factor with humansAug 03 04:10
schestowitz[TR2]Ukraine (US proxy and EU proxy)  and RussiaAug 03 04:10
MinceRresources are never enough, underlings are never enoughAug 03 04:10
mateyim not saying there arent other, more pointless crusades. there totally areAug 03 04:10
MinceRit doesn't matter if it kills us, we've got to outbreed the other cult and we've got to cover the entire planet in human bodiesAug 03 04:10
matey<MinceR> resources are never enough <- i agree, but the conclusion is differentAug 03 04:10
MinceRwe're the paperclip optimizer, except we build human bodiesAug 03 04:10
schestowitz[TR2]"consultants" to 20 year old: put money in a pension so you can pick     it up 50 years from nowAug 03 04:11
schestowitz[TR2](if humans still have a civilised system)Aug 03 04:11
schestowitz[TR2]reality:Aug 03 04:11
MinceRhumans never had a civilized systemAug 03 04:11
schestowitz[TR2]consultant told the 20 year old to push money into the collapsing pyramid schemeAug 03 04:11
mateyany plan that depends on the economy is already shitAug 03 04:11
mateyan economy, maybe Aug 03 04:11
mateythis economy? pleaseAug 03 04:11
MinceRhumans sugarcoated pure evil and oppression and called it "civilization"Aug 03 04:11
schestowitz[TR2]to cushion the pension of people now in their 60sAug 03 04:11
MinceRit makes me sickAug 03 04:11
schestowitz[TR2]btw, not sure if you noticed it, a few weeks ago I started including "economic" news here in this channel,. along witj union stuffAug 03 04:12
schestowitz[TR2]it's related to rights, tooAug 03 04:12
schestowitz[TR2]I have friends who are made to work like 70- hours a weekAug 03 04:12
schestowitz[TR2]for a companyAug 03 04:12
mateyyeah economic news is relevant to all thisAug 03 04:13
mateybut it also gives you more things to be wrong aboutAug 03 04:13
schestowitz[TR2]the companies have many ways to exploit the crisis tooAug 03 04:13
mateyto get economy right you need a big pictureAug 03 04:13
schestowitz[TR2]"you can work from home a few times a week, BUT..."|Aug 03 04:13
mateyyou dont have oneAug 03 04:13
schestowitz[TR2]so they steal away your personal time, tooAug 03 04:13
matey(m not saying thats enough, im saying its required)Aug 03 04:13
schestowitz[TR2]IBM, 2021: you are IBM employe 100% of the timeAug 03 04:13
mateyyoull probably glean a few fun facts out of itAug 03 04:13
mateyand some extra articlesAug 03 04:14
schestowitz[TR2]depends on the sourceAug 03 04:14
schestowitz[TR2]dean baker can be okAug 03 04:14
schestowitz[TR2]alternative news sites iwith good writersAug 03 04:14
schestowitz[TR2]like chris hedgesAug 03 04:14
schestowitz[TR2]eeeeeither way,Aug 03 04:14
schestowitz[TR2]oopsAug 03 04:14
schestowitz[TR2]barrierAug 03 04:14
schestowitz[TR2]on a personal note, I try to leave my job, but people throw barriers at meAug 03 04:14
schestowitz[TR2]with nasty HR peopleAug 03 04:14
schestowitz[TR2]and greedy jealous peopleAug 03 04:15
schestowitz[TR2]they have kidsAug 03 04:15
schestowitz[TR2]they envy the idea of someone removing some shacklesAug 03 04:15
mateyyoure arent removing shackles. youre incredibly lucky.Aug 03 04:15
schestowitz[TR2]so I'll take myself off the radar for a bit, not talking to them at allAug 03 04:15
schestowitz[TR2]matey: not just luckyAug 03 04:15
schestowitz[TR2]it's based on decisionsAug 03 04:15
schestowitz[TR2]not luckAug 03 04:16
schestowitz[TR2]we live on meager budgetAug 03 04:16
mateyevery person who is that lucky believes its because they made the right decisionsAug 03 04:16
mateythats why kanye thinks slavery is a "choice"Aug 03 04:16
schestowitz[TR2]I could go work for 6-figure salaries after universityAug 03 04:16
mateyfwiw i think people SHOULD do what youre doing if they canAug 03 04:16
schestowitz[TR2]but didn't want to, boycottnovelll was already a thinghAug 03 04:16
mateybut to attribute it to your own personal decisions is a jokeAug 03 04:16
schestowitz[TR2]I was about 24Aug 03 04:16
mateyyoure lucky. you THINK its something you did.Aug 03 04:16
MinceR03 051319 < matey> to get economy right you need a big pictureAug 03 04:17
schestowitz[TR2]no, it's turning things downAug 03 04:17
MinceRdoes anyone get the economy right?Aug 03 04:17
schestowitz[TR2]economcis is not a scieneAug 03 04:17
schestowitz[TR2]it is a fraudAug 03 04:17
matey <MinceR> does anyone get the economy right <- hard to sayAug 03 04:17
schestowitz[TR2]you don't get it rightAug 03 04:17
schestowitz[TR2]you rig itAug 03 04:17
MinceRit's a "science" of wild guessing and unverifiable predictionsAug 03 04:17
MinceRone that got started with the LTV and for most people, never really recoveredAug 03 04:17
schestowitz[TR2]what about bailoutsAug 03 04:17
schestowitz[TR2]where in the science do they fit in?Aug 03 04:17
schestowitz[TR2]http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/.3now CHIPS ActAug 03 04:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/.3now )Aug 03 04:18
schestowitz[TR2]subsidies and graftAug 03 04:18
matey<MinceR> it's a "science" of wild guessing and unverifiable predictions <- debunking it then, would be the first step towards getting it rightAug 03 04:18
schestowitz[TR2]http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/ Aug 03 04:18
schestowitz[TR2]now CHIPS ActAug 03 04:18
mateyif its bullshit, you call bullshit. thats simple enoughAug 03 04:18
MinceRwhere they make a wild guess that a particular bailout will have desirable results, or merely claim so while they just hand the people's money over to their croniesAug 03 04:18
MinceRmatey: their predictions are unfalsifiableAug 03 04:18
schestowitz[TR2]matey: they buy the politiciansAug 03 04:18
schestowitz[TR2]that's not science eitherAug 03 04:19
MinceRthere's no appropriate experiment environment for economicsAug 03 04:19
schestowitz[TR2]it's hand in the cookie jarAug 03 04:19
MinceRthere's no possibility of a control groupAug 03 04:19
schestowitz[TR2]best outcome ime, work outside the systemAug 03 04:19
schestowitz[TR2](to the extent feasible)Aug 03 04:19
MinceRbest outcome: become extinctAug 03 04:19
schestowitz[TR2]walk, buy discounts, repair, stop flying etc.Aug 03 04:19
mateyanyway, thers a name for the bias people who are able to retire at 45 because (or so they think) of "decisions" they madeAug 03 04:19
schestowitz[TR2]matey: that's not the best outcomeAug 03 04:20
mateyi mean you win the lottery because of a "decision" you made. its still luckAug 03 04:20
mateyits called survivorship biasAug 03 04:20
mateyits what you haveAug 03 04:20
schestowitz[TR2]do yuo know the cost of a child today?Aug 03 04:20
mateybut im not against what youre doing. im only making fun of what you attribute it to.Aug 03 04:20
schestowitz[TR2]it got a lot higher latelyAug 03 04:20
schestowitz[TR2]with inflationAug 03 04:20
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mateylots more people should quit their job and turn to activismAug 03 04:20
mateybut those who manage it are indeed luckyAug 03 04:20
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schestowitz[TR2]they think the system will take care of themAug 03 04:20
mateyalso, activism is needed at work, not just outside itAug 03 04:21
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mateythat what unions are forAug 03 04:21
mateyand its risky, yesAug 03 04:21
schestowitz[TR2]https://spendmenot.com/blog/how-much-does-it-cost-to-raise-a-child/Aug 03 04:21
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schestowitz[TR2]"The cost of raising a child until age 17 is $233,610 on average. Low-income married couples spend $174,690 on average to raise a child. Low-income single parents spend $172,200 to raise a child from birth until age 17."Aug 03 04:21
mateyyes you saved money due to not having childrenAug 03 04:21
mateythat was smartAug 03 04:22
mateysome decisions helpedAug 03 04:22
schestowitz[TR2]multiple by [number of offsping], add COLLEGE costsAug 03 04:22
schestowitz[TR2]*multiplyAug 03 04:22
mateydont let that make you think-- im joking, theres no way you could possibly come to another conclusionAug 03 04:22
schestowitz[TR2]it's higher in some EU countriesAug 03 04:22
mateybut if you could, then you could be right about this.Aug 03 04:22
schestowitz[TR2]2021: https://www.thelocal.de/20211029/how-much-does-it-cost-to-bring-up-a-child-in-germany/Aug 03 04:23
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schestowitz[TR2]it's a lot higher nowAug 03 04:23
schestowitz[TR2]add 10+ percent inflationAug 03 04:23
schestowitz[TR2]some people work high-paying jobs not out if choice but out of necessityAug 03 04:24
schestowitz[TR2]and cannot quit or limit hours to 40 a week, 20 a week, 10 a weekAug 03 04:24
mateynow factor in the things you dont control and youll understandAug 03 04:24
mateyor dont, its not like i expect you to ever figure this outAug 03 04:25
mateythe thing is, you should quit-- and its a good ideaAug 03 04:25
mateybut youll crow about it for years and yearsAug 03 04:25
mateyand people who hate you for it will hate the crowingAug 03 04:25
mateyso youll try to make it sound modest and helpfulAug 03 04:25
mateybut its neitherAug 03 04:25
mateyand its fine, im not unhappy with my own situation about thisAug 03 04:25
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mateymodest about it, but not unhappyAug 03 04:26
mateyand i dont live as nicely as you do, but im happy with my lifestyleAug 03 04:26
mateyhi britneyAug 03 04:26
schestowitz[TR2]matey: here is the thingAug 03 04:26
britneyhi mateyAug 03 04:26
schestowitz[TR2]couples with kids like to hang out woth other couples with kidsAug 03 04:27
schestowitz[TR2]helps them feel adequateAug 03 04:27
schestowitz[TR2]but contrariwise, they can be toxic to people who don't make that choiceAug 03 04:27
schestowitz[TR2]I've literally blacklisted two people for the whole month of AugustAug 03 04:27
mateyof courseAug 03 04:27
britneygemini://cerberusinvestigations.darkcloud.ca - i have a gemini capsule :DAug 03 04:27
schestowitz[TR2]didn't even tell them the deadlineAug 03 04:27
matey <britney> gemini://cerberusinvestigations.darkcloud.ca - i have a gemini capsule  <- thats fucking awesomeAug 03 04:27
schestowitz[TR2]I will say in SeptemberAug 03 04:27
matey <schestowitz[TR2]> I've literally blacklisted two people for the whole month of August <- i bet theyre relativesAug 03 04:28
britney:)Aug 03 04:28
matey/me has the tech to do gemini (at least clientwise) but doesnt use it regularly yetAug 03 04:29
mateyfor serving ive worked on it but i dont have that yet eitherAug 03 04:29
mateywhen i was on debian i ran a gopher server, and one of the servers hooked right into the native network bs blah blah blahAug 03 04:29
mateyinetd or some shitAug 03 04:29
mateyit was tedious-- but it worked the first time i set it upAug 03 04:30
mateyfor gemini its like that all over again-- on openbsd i meanAug 03 04:30
MinceRthey call it "socket activation" nowadaysAug 03 04:30
mateynot for httpdAug 03 04:30
MinceRand pretend poettering invented itAug 03 04:30
mateybut for geminiAug 03 04:30
MinceRjust like the cupertino mafiaAug 03 04:30
mateywhat this means is that you dont have to maintain an entire stack outside of the coreAug 03 04:30
MinceRreimplement something poorly, and then claim credit for inventing itAug 03 04:30
mateyand a server can be written which is VERY minimal and works wellAug 03 04:30
schestowitz[TR2]matey: I wrote a bit about this in my blogAug 03 04:31
mateyand just happens to be a fucking pain to setup (unless its http)Aug 03 04:31
schestowitz[TR2]then buried it with chaffAug 03 04:31
schestowitz[TR2]to avoid more people seeing itAug 03 04:31
mateyfor http, the native server is easyAug 03 04:31
schestowitz[TR2]but I have a plan for activismAug 03 04:31
mateytheres also apache httpd if you prefer itAug 03 04:31
mateytheres nginx tooAug 03 04:31
schestowitz[TR2]does not involve selling out to anybodyAug 03 04:31
schestowitz[TR2]hmmm.. apache in techrights need a kick, brbAug 03 04:31
britneymatey, im using shavit as a gemini serverAug 03 04:32
mateycoolAug 03 04:32
britneyits written in goAug 03 04:32
matey/me nodsAug 03 04:32
mateybut its cool you have a gemini serverAug 03 04:32
mateygemini is the futureAug 03 04:32
schestowitz[TR2]I'd rather play myself to death than work myself to deathAug 03 04:32
mateyfor now, im migrating all my web stuff graduallyAug 03 04:32
schestowitz[TR2]we all die eventuallyAug 03 04:32
schestowitz[TR2]some of us play, some of us work for itAug 03 04:32
schestowitz[TR2]ok, techrights backAug 03 04:33
schestowitz[TR2]good thing I'm awake, this kind of issue never solves itselfAug 03 04:33
matey/me writes websites in gemini text, hosts them in gemtext, presents/renders them as html on the flyAug 03 04:33
mateyfor those who dont like js, "view source" worksAug 03 04:33
mateyno js needed thenAug 03 04:33
schestowitz[TR2]matey: if you need a help, tell meAug 03 04:33
mateylolAug 03 04:33
schestowitz[TR2]I have now got experience with several gemini server softwareAug 03 04:33
mateyi dont think you understand the situation for me personallyAug 03 04:34
schestowitz[TR2]itr' easier to configure than apache and nginxAug 03 04:34
mateyits outside your experience, and mineAug 03 04:34
mateywe can both do http-- and i could also do gemini if i was doing it your wayAug 03 04:34
mateyits easyAug 03 04:34
mateybut i dont want to do it that wayAug 03 04:34
mateyi dont want a server from github for exampleAug 03 04:35
mateyone thats native to openbsd is fineAug 03 04:35
schestowitz[TR2]right, don't use oneAug 03 04:35
mateybut so far, its a bitch to setupAug 03 04:35
mateyand i save my patience for other projectsAug 03 04:35
schestowitz[TR2]alpine has one that's not just in sourcehutAug 03 04:35
mateyill try it again and get it workingAug 03 04:35
schestowitz[TR2]but was made by a counfounder of sourcehutAug 03 04:35
mateybut not yetAug 03 04:35
mateygemini is the futureAug 03 04:35
schestowitz[TR2]https://pkgs.alpinelinux.org/package/edge/community/x86/gmnisrvAug 03 04:35
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mateybut at the present im busyAug 03 04:36
mateyone of the things im busy with is transforming things to be gemini friendlyAug 03 04:36
schestowitz[TR2]planet gemini is brokenjAug 03 04:36
mateyso thats progressAug 03 04:36
schestowitz[TR2]I need to copy across the july 29th backupAug 03 04:36
schestowitz[TR2]it's very slow on usbAug 03 04:36
mateyive been weaning myself more and more off html, im no fan of html Aug 03 04:36
mateybut its been useful in the pastAug 03 04:36
mateytoo expensive (time and ram) for my taste-- but usefulAug 03 04:37
mateyserving gemini protocol is great for anyone who gets that runningAug 03 04:37
mateybut its only one of many goals im working onAug 03 04:37
mateytheres a thing i use html for thats VERY useful and ive been exploring other meansAug 03 04:37
mateyusing a text editorAug 03 04:37
mateybut the html version is in colour and fits on one pageAug 03 04:38
mateyi got it to fit on one page in a text editor, but-- thats not the best methodAug 03 04:38
mateyi do experiments with this stuff all the timeAug 03 04:38
mateyall my coolest projects started as a simple experimentAug 03 04:38
mateyusually to answer some philosophical question (about computing) with codeAug 03 04:39
mateymigrating to gemini is important to me, its just not my highest priorityAug 03 04:39
mateyso im taking my time with itAug 03 04:39
mateyanything i used to do with html in mindAug 03 04:40
mateyi now do with gemtext or something close to itAug 03 04:40
mateybut theres lots of old stuffAug 03 04:40
mateyand at the same time, im getting away from opendocument and pdf tooAug 03 04:40
mateyin the past month ive reduced my file collection over the past 12 years to 25% of its sizeAug 03 04:41
mateythe stuff i can do to my entire filesystem-- in a short amount of time-- is awesomeAug 03 04:41
mateyi maintain everything with my own toolsAug 03 04:42
mateynot including the languages theyre written in of courseAug 03 04:42
mateynot including xtermAug 03 04:42
mateyand certainly not incluing the osAug 03 04:42
mateybut its all work, and its prioritised based on my needs and goalsAug 03 04:42
mateythe only thing that pisses me off about the software ecosystem is how much theyve sabotagedAug 03 04:43
schestowitz[TR2]that's relatedAug 03 04:43
mateyand how much harder theyve made everything Aug 03 04:43
mateyyeahAug 03 04:43
schestowitz[TR2]one issue and the otherAug 03 04:43
schestowitz[TR2]bloat in sofwtaare and webAug 03 04:43
mateyoh i knowAug 03 04:43
mateyi knowAug 03 04:43
schestowitz[TR2]web browser <-> the webAug 03 04:43
mateywe agree that getting away from html is goodAug 03 04:43
schestowitz[TR2]client, protocol, serverAug 03 04:43
mateythats why ive moved shittonnes of workflow aroundAug 03 04:44
schestowitz[TR2]techrights started talking about this years agoAug 03 04:44
mateybut serving gemini protocol is a very low priority thereAug 03 04:44
schestowitz[TR2]it got so much worse with the webAug 03 04:44
mateythe real bloat comes from the clientAug 03 04:44
schestowitz[TR2]see Linux TodayAug 03 04:44
schestowitz[TR2]it's dying so badly that it now runs SPAMAug 03 04:44
schestowitz[TR2]as "news"Aug 03 04:44
mateywhat i really love about gemtext isAug 03 04:44
schestowitz[TR2]so one thing we'll try to do is raise awareness of the issueAug 03 04:44
mateyits fucking easy to parse-- by a program OR even manuallyAug 03 04:44
schestowitz[TR2]yeahAug 03 04:44
mateygemtext is human readable as fuck!Aug 03 04:45
schestowitz[TR2]you need to read only first 3 chars of each lineAug 03 04:45
schestowitz[TR2]and you know what the line isAug 03 04:45
mateyso when i do html, its brower readable buts its a messAug 03 04:45
schestowitz[TR2]so it's efficient to process in paralellAug 03 04:45
schestowitz[TR2]*llelAug 03 04:45
mateyso while serving gemini isnt a priorityAug 03 04:45
mateywhen i design anything web related i use gemini as the modelAug 03 04:45
mateyand this DOES have a goal of moving to real gemini protocolAug 03 04:45
mateywhen you consider i spent the past few weeks cutting all my files down to 1/4 the sizeAug 03 04:46
mateythats not unrelatedAug 03 04:46
mateyits a lot easier to manage 1/4 as much html, other stuff, etcAug 03 04:46
matey75% of cruft: goneAug 03 04:47
mateybut thats not all ive worked onAug 03 04:47
schestowitz[TR2]in new tuxmachines, the cms, we use sqliteAug 03 04:47
schestowitz[TR2]to generate the pagesAug 03 04:47
schestowitz[TR2]not to serve themAug 03 04:47
mateyi dont like databasesAug 03 04:47
schestowitz[TR2]new:Aug 03 04:47
schestowitz[TR2]<techrights-news> Never Too Rich Or Thin: Compress Sqlite 80% ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/08/01/never-too-rich-or-thin-compress-sqlite-80/ | Source: HackadayAug 03 04:47
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mateythey serve a purposeAug 03 04:47
mateythe only time i ever needed one was when i downloaded wikipedia :)Aug 03 04:48
schestowitz[TR2]you culd also convert them to boring plain text filesAug 03 04:48
mateythat is just too much trouble to work with using discrete files :)Aug 03 04:48
schestowitz[TR2]and work off thatAug 03 04:48
matey <schestowitz[TR2]> you culd also convert them to boring plain text files <- i did, on ext3Aug 03 04:48
mateywith standard hdperm settingsAug 03 04:48
schestowitz[TR2]okAug 03 04:48
mateynightmareAug 03 04:48
schestowitz[TR2]so the file system became the ''''db'Aug 03 04:48
mateyconclusion: this is why dbs existAug 03 04:48
mateyim sure there are other uses, but this is the only one i found for me personallyAug 03 04:49
schestowitz[TR2]find and grep -R are a lot slower than SELEECT where *...Aug 03 04:49
mateyyeah but when i wanted to delete half the articlesAug 03 04:49
mateywe are talking 20 minutes to writeAug 03 04:49
mateybut HOURS to deleteAug 03 04:49
mateyext3 wasnt up to itAug 03 04:50
mateyi dont know if ext4 is or whateverAug 03 04:50
mateyim not a filesystems expertAug 03 04:50
mateymoot now, since i dont use gnu/linuxAug 03 04:50
schestowitz[TR2]the filesystems expert is "rape apologist"Aug 03 04:50
mateyand i dont have a copy of wikipedia these daysAug 03 04:50
schestowitz[TR2]ext4 (tso)Aug 03 04:50
schestowitz[TR2]one is in prisonAug 03 04:50
mateybut i did learn something that db does better than fsAug 03 04:50
schestowitz[TR2]for cutting his wife to piecesAug 03 04:50
mateywell you knowAug 03 04:50
mateyif someone is cancelled for murdering his wifeAug 03 04:50
mateyand we know he did itAug 03 04:50
mateythats hard to paint as injusticeAug 03 04:51
britneyReiserFSAug 03 04:51
mateystallman was cancelled over pure bullshitAug 03 04:51
schestowitz[TR2]reiser, FFS!!Aug 03 04:51
mateyand other examples may varyAug 03 04:51
mateytso imo, i was also cancelled over pure bullshitAug 03 04:51
mateytoo bad, that helped kill linuxAug 03 04:51
schestowitz[TR2]linux is not dead btwAug 03 04:52
schestowitz[TR2]not literally, as a projectAug 03 04:52
mateyso now gkh has the reins insteadAug 03 04:52
mateytragedyAug 03 04:52
britneygkh is cool thoAug 03 04:52
MinceRnot yetAug 03 04:52
schestowitz[TR2]it's just drifting in a direction that's similar to what we wanted to replaceAug 03 04:52
mateylinux will be better when its deadAug 03 04:52
MinceRno, gkh is very far from coolAug 03 04:52
MinceRgkh wanted kdbusAug 03 04:52
MinceRwe were lucky to have Torvalds at the wheel back thenAug 03 04:52
mateyi like britney but her taste in floss "visionaries" is appallingAug 03 04:52
schestowitz[TR2]gkh is not the worstAug 03 04:53
schestowitz[TR2]we all agree on thisAug 03 04:53
mateyhes bad enoughAug 03 04:53
schestowitz[TR2]except maybe MinceR Aug 03 04:53
matey/me raises handAug 03 04:53
mateywho is worse than gkhAug 03 04:53
mateyamong developers...Aug 03 04:53
MinceRyeah, i suppose they could put poettering in charge insteadAug 03 04:53
schestowitz[TR2]wait till Zemlin and Sheela Microsoft replace him with Microsoft's LevinAug 03 04:53
MinceRor sieversAug 03 04:53
mateybecause youll say zmelingAug 03 04:53
britneyi've seen a video of gkh and he seemed like a cool guyAug 03 04:53
schestowitz[TR2]he's already there as second in lineAug 03 04:53
MinceRbut "not the worst" is just not good enough, sorryAug 03 04:53
schestowitz[TR2]in long term (LTS) releasesAug 03 04:54
mateyhypothetically there are worse Aug 03 04:54
schestowitz[TR2]Sasha LevinAug 03 04:54
schestowitz[TR2]he's also in the technical boardAug 03 04:54
mateybut the difference is sievers isnt slated for that sort of position, right?Aug 03 04:54
MinceR¯\_(ツ)_/¯Aug 03 04:54
MinceRsuch things are probably decided in the platinum members' officesAug 03 04:54
mateyi mean we are talking about leader tierAug 03 04:54
MinceRnot in publicAug 03 04:54
mateynot contributorAug 03 04:54
MinceRalso, for now our corporate overlords pretend Torvalds is in chargeAug 03 04:54
mateyso we are talking tso, gkh, torvalds (emeritus)Aug 03 04:54
MinceReven though he clearly isn'tAug 03 04:54
mateyhence emeritusAug 03 04:55
schestowitz[TR2]emeritus lolAug 03 04:55
schestowitz[TR2]he's 52 iircAug 03 04:55
mateya word i learned recentlyAug 03 04:55
MinceRdidn't they get rid of Ts'o already?Aug 03 04:55
mateyor knew, but didnt knowAug 03 04:55
mateyyeah mjg killed himAug 03 04:55
MinceRmaybe they'll make mjg the figureheadAug 03 04:55
mateynot literally of courseAug 03 04:55
schestowitz[TR2]in academia many profs stay in their 70s tooAug 03 04:55
schestowitz[TR2]emeritus typically would be like 80sAug 03 04:56
mateyand he didnt act aloneAug 03 04:56
schestowitz[TR2]aka "geezer"Aug 03 04:56
schestowitz[TR2]but torvalds might look like one in a decadeAug 03 04:56
schestowitz[TR2]no zombie walks on his treadmills and cheetos for dinnerAug 03 04:56
mateywell im borrowing the use of emeritus from debian, who since july decribes shuttleworth this way.Aug 03 04:56
MinceRor maybe his bosses will get tired of the puppet show and make him disappearAug 03 04:56
schestowitz[TR2]James and Sheela Microsoft are the ones donning suits and having caviar Aug 03 04:56
mateyand it is intended to be mildly funnyAug 03 04:56
mateyor sadAug 03 04:57
MinceRthe fate of deadian is sad indeedAug 03 04:57
mateyi dont miss torvalds, fuck him, but gkh is still worseAug 03 04:57
mateyand tso would be better (perhaps better than either)Aug 03 04:57
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mateybut its moot now, except as a post-mortemAug 03 04:58
mateyit wont put tso at the helmAug 03 04:58
mateyit wont save linux eitherAug 03 04:58
mateyie microsoft linuxAug 03 04:58
MinceRkroah-hartmanuxAug 03 04:59
schestowitz[TR2]morton will probably retire soonbAug 03 04:59
schestowitz[TR2]iirc, he has like 6 kids or somethingAug 03 04:59
schestowitz[TR2]and lives near gulagAug 03 04:59
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schestowitz[TR2]so has to keep a 6-figure salaryAug 03 04:59
mateyif tso hadnt been cancelled, perhaps he would have stood up to the lf in a way mr novell never wouldAug 03 04:59
mateywe dont know, because its more important that tso never bring up rape statistics in a discussion about rape.Aug 03 04:59
britneymatey, attack surfaceAug 03 04:59
mateyactually, tsos real crime was bringing up rape statistics in response to someone talking about rape statistics-- the bastard!Aug 03 05:00
matey<britney> matey, attack surfaceAug 03 05:00
matey :)Aug 03 05:00
britneyTso has a bigger attack surfaceAug 03 05:00
mateycan you do a believable alberta accent?Aug 03 05:00
matey<britney> Tso has a bigger attack surface <- sadly trueAug 03 05:00
britneyim not sureAug 03 05:01
mateyalso hes not a skinny guy, but for an asian thats kind of a featAug 03 05:01
matey <britney> matey, attack surface <- btw theres a third alien superraceAug 03 05:03
mateytheyre the cynical bastard aliens from planet x, and they control this irc channelAug 03 05:03
britneywhich superraceAug 03 05:03
matey(mincer is one of them)Aug 03 05:03
mateyhe has a black triangle shipAug 03 05:03
matey<britney> which superrace <- just told you, the cynical bastards from planet xAug 03 05:03
techrights-newsWow, fifth time in just over a day. Webspam from ZDNet's sister site. What on Earth is going on here? Sunset for the site? Has 'Linux Today' sold its soul to diploma mills? http://techrights.org/2022/08/01/linux-today-zdnet/Aug 03 05:04
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mateyhes been telling us all this time using coded language disguised as emojisAug 03 05:04
mateybut the coolest part is he can create an energy weapon that runs on calgonAug 03 05:05
mateyor power his ship with itAug 03 05:05
mateywe had fun figuring all this outAug 03 05:06
mateyit started with lasers, cats, alchemy and tyrian purpleAug 03 05:06
DaemonFCschestowitz[TR2], I was reading some of my old blog.Aug 03 05:07
mateyfinally mincer started doing things that should break most known laws of physics but of course, only apply them in ways only an alien superrace could andAug 03 05:07
mateythe rest as they say, is historyAug 03 05:07
DaemonFCIt's amazing how much Microsoft then is just like Microsoft now. Like, their amazing business plan is always to spring some horrible stripped down version of Windows that doesn't do much on you and then demand another $100 when you get the computer in the house.Aug 03 05:08
DaemonFCThey tried it again with Windows 10 and then turned it into a Mode, and then that Mode sort of went away in Windows 11 again.Aug 03 05:08
DaemonFC"Starter Mode" doesn't work as a business plan. It has never worked in a first world country, and even in developing countries they've gotten wise to it and don't want it.Aug 03 05:08
britneymatey, can he shapeshift?Aug 03 05:08
mateyi didnt ask, i thought it was too forwardAug 03 05:09
matey"can you shapeshift" is more of a third date question imoAug 03 05:09
DaemonFCThere's really no reason why it would work in any country. In rich countries, people go "Eww! Hand me an OS that does something!" and in poor countries they go "I'm poor! But I'm not retarded! I want to use Linux!".Aug 03 05:09
DaemonFCAnd then they have Matthew GULAG's "Secure Boot" to stop them from doing that.Aug 03 05:10
techrights-newsToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167947 ⇨ https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/03/today%27s_howtos.shtmlAug 03 05:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesAug 03 05:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — today's howtosAug 03 05:11
MinceR03 060343 < matey> he has a black triangle shipAug 03 05:12
MinceRif i had one, do you really think i'd hang around in this dump?Aug 03 05:12
mateyi dunno, maybe the charging stations are as far apart as they are for teslasAug 03 05:12
techrights-newsGNU/Linux market share in India estimated at 7% https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/india/#monthly-200901-202208Aug 03 05:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gs.statcounter.com | Desktop Operating System Market Share India | Statcounter Global StatsAug 03 05:13
DaemonFCLOLAug 03 05:13
techrights-newsMicrosoft is Trying to Hire (Read: Pay Salaries to) Matthew Garrett http://techrights.org/2022/08/01/headhunting-matthew-garrett/Aug 03 05:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft is Trying to Hire (Read: Pay Salaries to) Matthew Garrett | TechrightsAug 03 05:13
DaemonFCI said if Chris Pirillo's career blowing Microsoft fell through he'd make a passable stand-in for Harold on the New Red Green Show.Aug 03 05:14
schestowitz[TR2]is he still around?Aug 03 05:14
mateymaybe it needs partsAug 03 05:14
schestowitz[TR2]I've not heard his name for a decade or moreAug 03 05:14
schestowitz[TR2]I exchanged a few emails with himAug 03 05:14
DaemonFChttps://yewtu.be/watch?v=k1Pv5hEJepkAug 03 05:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | The Red Green Show - Harold Gets Married - InvidiousAug 03 05:14
mateyi got stranded in the middle of nowhere once because a vital part on a small plane needed replacementAug 03 05:14
schestowitz[TR2]iirc, he was a star on tv 'tech' shows in his younger daysAug 03 05:14
mateyit had two, thats why it was still running when it landedAug 03 05:14
schestowitz[TR2]and then become a microsoft shillAug 03 05:14
schestowitz[TR2]then goneAug 03 05:15
DaemonFCYelling at his wife like she was some sort of dog.Aug 03 05:15
schestowitz[TR2]like david berlindAug 03 05:15
DaemonFCThat really pissed me off.Aug 03 05:15
mateybut its treated, understandably, as a flight emergencyAug 03 05:15
schestowitz[TR2]who started ProgrammableWebAug 03 05:15
mateyit took more than a day to get it replacedAug 03 05:15
mateyfor a spaceship you know it could take much longerAug 03 05:15
schestowitz[TR2]and it didn't get anywhere, was good at crashing my browserAug 03 05:15
schestowitz[TR2]iirc, he was editor of zdnet when the site still did actual newsAug 03 05:15
DaemonFCI hadn't really even given any thought to the Philippines at that point in my life other than someone I went to grade school with at Catholic school was from there, but he was a doctor's son.Aug 03 05:15
DaemonFCNobody there was poor.Aug 03 05:15
mateyin freefall, the alien sqid (not squid, those are earthling) has a spaceship but its not flight-readyAug 03 05:16
DaemonFCMom was a hospital nurse, so we knew the doctor and his wife and went and did things together.Aug 03 05:16
mateyso he "hires" a bowmans wolf as an engineer to fix it upAug 03 05:16
DaemonFCThey had a house out near where my grandmother lived with a nice big private lake and everything.Aug 03 05:16
DaemonFCSo, like, uhhhh, not Tondo.Aug 03 05:17
mateyi cant tell if its intended as sci fi or a furry fantasy but it seems to be mostly the formerAug 03 05:17
schestowitz[TR2]Berlind left zdnet 14 years ago https://www.zdnet.com/blog/berlind/Aug 03 05:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Berlind's Testbed | ZDNetAug 03 05:17
DaemonFCAnyway, those were the only people I had ever met from the Philippines until 2019.Aug 03 05:17
mateyand the writing is greatAug 03 05:17
schestowitz[TR2]https://www.zdnet.com/article/farewell-to-zdnet-and-cnet/Aug 03 05:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Farewell to ZDNet (and CNET) | ZDNetAug 03 05:17
mateyat least as good as red warf (but not as hilarious)Aug 03 05:17
DaemonFCBut I knew that Pirillo's wife was from there.Aug 03 05:17
DaemonFCAnd that's an obvious Green Card marriage.Aug 03 05:17
schestowitz[TR2]""Aug 03 05:17
mateyred dwarf. though communist klingons would be amusingAug 03 05:17
schestowitz[TR2]If you were an auditor asked to examine the human resources records of CNET (parent company to ZDNet), you'd discover that even though the company was officially founded in 1992, that there's a handful of employees whose hire dates actually precede that year. My colleague Dan Farber is one of them.Aug 03 05:17
DaemonFCI don't mean to insult her, but rather him.Aug 03 05:17
mateyim sure thats what they were based on anywayAug 03 05:18
DaemonFCLike, such an asshole that nobody would tolerate him if they didn't have to go to Immigration every couple of years.Aug 03 05:18
mateymemory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Depicting_KlingonsAug 03 05:18
mateyThe depiction of the Klingon species, the iconic aggressive warrior race from the planet Qo'noS, has evolved throughout the years from a simple analogy of the American fear of Cold War -era Russians to a depiction of a complex and proud tradition-bound people who value honor as well as combat prestige.Aug 03 05:18
DaemonFCHe was mistreating her right on his livestream.Aug 03 05:18
DaemonFCI mean, almost like he wanted to make a spectacle out of it.Aug 03 05:18
schestowitz-TR05:06] <schestowitz-TR> LT (noty Torvalds, Linux Today) is "Done For"... I know what happens after these choices are made, like Aug 03 05:19
schestowitz-TR[05:06] <schestowitz-TR> FOSSForce... after its marketing spam as postsAug 03 05:19
schestowitz-TR[05:06] <schestowitz-TR> eeking out a few $s on the way outAug 03 05:19
DaemonFCI remember listening to that and going "Not cool. You do not address your spouse that way! And you especially don't do it in public.".Aug 03 05:19
mateyPERHAPS TODAY IS A GOOD DAY TO OVERTHROW THE BOURGEOISIE!Aug 03 05:20
britneymatey, gkhnuxAug 03 05:20
mateyheheheAug 03 05:20
DaemonFCHe was not being "mean" so much as being really needy, like making her wait on him hand and foot.Aug 03 05:20
britney<matey> PERHAPS TODAY IS A GOOD DAY TO OVERTHROW THE BOURGEOISIE! <--- yaaas!Aug 03 05:20
mateyno matter how much i make fun of icke, youre okayAug 03 05:20
DaemonFCWhich is mean, in a sense, I guess.Aug 03 05:20
MinceRsystemd-kerneldAug 03 05:20
matey <MinceR> systemd-kerneld <- would not surprise many of usAug 03 05:21
schestowitz[TR2]aka linux-azureAug 03 05:21
DaemonFCNeediness is not a turn on for most people.Aug 03 05:21
britneymatey, icke talks about reptilians tooAug 03 05:21
mateyi knowAug 03 05:21
mateybut if i do its mostly for funAug 03 05:21
MinceRmaybe they'll rebrand systemd to azuredAug 03 05:21
MinceRand then it could be azured-kerneldAug 03 05:21
britneyfor the lulz is always goodAug 03 05:21
DaemonFCI'm considering installing Rocky Linux on one of my older systems and using it to host a Gemini pod.Aug 03 05:21
MinceR"finally many people use something that has azure in the name! we've won!"Aug 03 05:21
matey<MinceR> maybe they'll rebrand systemd to azure <- par for the courseAug 03 05:21
DaemonFCIt's a real computer that I control that's sitting in my house.Aug 03 05:21
matey<britney> matey, icke talks about reptilians too <- once everything is a metaphor, even most of the wildest claims are trueAug 03 05:22
mateybut as long as we take things literally... i doubt the moon is actually hollowAug 03 05:22
MinceRMICROS~1 management should get their heads checked, because their attempts to get users^W hostages are pathetic.Aug 03 05:22
MinceRnot that it would helpAug 03 05:22
DaemonFCIf people would stop using Bloated Shit from the W3C and GULAG then they could definitely host their own Web site, even on their home PC and home Internet connection.Aug 03 05:22
britneymatey, reptilians drink human blood to maintain the shapeshifting abilityAug 03 05:22
MinceRafaik mental institutions always had trouble keeping ASPD people insideAug 03 05:23
mateythe earth is a spaceship, but shes got no thrusters (and her shields arent the best)Aug 03 05:23
MinceRwhat sort of spaceship is that?Aug 03 05:23
britneymatey, the hollow moon is a space shipAug 03 05:23
MinceRyou believe in the moon?Aug 03 05:23
DaemonFCIt's not that the Web necessarily has to be bloated. You can fall back to older standards and it won't be a big hassle to set up a server.Aug 03 05:23
britneythe moon matrixAug 03 05:23
MinceRthe moon hologramAug 03 05:23
MinceRand the earth hologramAug 03 05:23
techrights-news"The rapid closure of businesses needs to be seen in tandem with the high job losses witnessed in recent months. The aggregate unemployment rate has jumped into the double-digit category in May 2021 with the average for May being nearly 12%." https://www.newsclick.in/five-lakh-companies-shut-shop-2016-saw-triple-whammy-DeMo-GST-COVID-19Aug 03 05:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.newsclick.in | Five Lakh Companies Shut Shop Since 2016 That Saw Triple Whammy of DeMo, GST, COVID-19 | NewsClickAug 03 05:23
britneythe moon matrix mind controls the human raceAug 03 05:24
matey <MinceR> you believe in the moon? <- its ok to shoot the moon https://yewtu.be/watch?v=pAur4CWJIPw (especially in self defence)Aug 03 05:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | The Lovin' Spoonful - Darling Be Home Soon (Audio) - InvidiousAug 03 05:24
techrights-newsWe need to get rid of Facebook https://www.theverge.com/2022/7/26/23278718/leap-second-computer-chaos-meta-backs-campaign-to-end-itAug 03 05:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Leap seconds cause chaos for computers — so Meta wants to get rid of them - The VergeAug 03 05:24
britneymatey, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTJ3LIA5LmAAug 03 05:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://invidio.xamh.de/watch?v=GTJ3LIA5LmAAug 03 05:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> invidio.xamh.de | Mr. Show - Blow Up the Moon - InvidiousAug 03 05:25
mateyalso the moon is vulnerable to lassos https://yewtu.be/watch?v=uAERYfeiYBcAug 03 05:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | It's a Wonderful Life (2/9) Movie CLIP - Lasso the Moon (1946) HD - InvidiousAug 03 05:25
techrights-newsTwo Weeks In, the Webb Space Telescope Is Reshaping Astronomy https://www.quantamagazine.org/two-weeks-in-the-webb-space-telescope-is-reshaping-astronomy-20220725/Aug 03 05:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.quantamagazine.org | Quanta MagazineAug 03 05:25
mateybut you can eat itAug 03 05:25
techrights-news"Forking out billions in subsidies and grants to support gas, and the money is used to sue farmers and muzzle journalists." https://michaelwest.com.au/fracking-hell-gas-grants-to-fight-farmers-muzzle-critics/Aug 03 05:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-michaelwest.com.au | Fracking hell: gas grants to fight farmers, muzzle critics - Michael WestAug 03 05:27
mateyshe throws better than she singsAug 03 05:27
matey<britney> matey, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTJ3LIA5LmA <- i would be worried about the tidesAug 03 05:28
mateyi suppose we could switch to tide podsAug 03 05:29
britneyim all in favour of blowing up the moonAug 03 05:29
britneyjust to see if you canAug 03 05:29
mateycan we at least get silicon valley to move there firstAug 03 05:29
matey<britney> just to see if you can <- to be fair thats a terrible reasonAug 03 05:30
britneyin dragon ball Z, picolo blows up the moon and its gloriousAug 03 05:30
mateyok thats a fair pointAug 03 05:30
mateypicolo is kind of a dick thoughAug 03 05:30
britneyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfSVLxXpfTIAug 03 05:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://invidio.xamh.de/watch?v=sfSVLxXpfTIAug 03 05:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> invidio.xamh.de | Dragon Ball Z Piccolo destroys Earth's Moon - InvidiousAug 03 05:30
mateywell i can honestly say i didnt expect to see gokus dick todayAug 03 05:33
mateywas that goku?Aug 03 05:33
mateyi only know dbz from the abridged version and that was 10 years agoAug 03 05:35
mateyof course i should know which one is goku. but there it is.Aug 03 05:35
matey/me doesnt even know the name of the guy who gets the nosebleeds over bulmaAug 03 05:36
britneylolAug 03 05:36
britneythat wasnt goku, its goku's sonAug 03 05:36
mateyah, okAug 03 05:36
britneygohanAug 03 05:36
mateyyeah i didnt know goku turned into a gorilla with red eyes, but that wasnt him so Aug 03 05:37
mateyand i didnt know why he was younger, but "thats his son" explains itAug 03 05:37
mateyeven the abridged version was mostly a mystery to meAug 03 05:38
mateyit was funny at leastAug 03 05:38
MinceRhttps://i.redd.it/434wuyk8ojxz.jpgAug 03 05:44
MinceRhttps://social.tulsa.ok.us/@Elizafox/108728562843826961Aug 03 05:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-social.tulsa.ok.us | Elizafox, unbound dremora: "Weather radio told me "avoid windows" and I'm all…" - Tulsa SocialAug 03 05:47
mateytheres a problem with that approach mincerAug 03 05:49
MinceRi knowAug 03 05:50
mateyyou cant trump them with "you believe in the moon" because someone already thinks space is fakeAug 03 05:50
MinceRhow can space be real if our eyes aren't real?Aug 03 05:50
MinceRalso, https://i.imgflip.com/29g26g.jpgAug 03 05:50
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mateyhttps://yewtu.be/watch?v=ghw0I4ZSlfIAug 03 05:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Vaquero - "Space is fake" - InvidiousAug 03 05:51
MinceRfake is fakeAug 03 05:52
mateynot the song i was looking forAug 03 05:53
mateythis was a country song called "space is fake" Aug 03 05:53
MinceRthese aren't the songs you're looking forAug 03 05:54
mateymaybe this one https://yewtu.be/watch?v=WcqKUhU0WDcAug 03 05:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Space is Fake! - Conspiracy Music Guru - InvidiousAug 03 05:54
MinceRhe can go about his business.Aug 03 05:54
MinceRmove along.Aug 03 05:54
mateyyepAug 03 05:54
mateythats the oneAug 03 05:54
mateymy god...Aug 03 05:54
mateyi used to live around these peopleAug 03 05:55
matey/me points to the mason dixon lineAug 03 05:55
mateytheyre not all like that :/Aug 03 05:55
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matey/me doesnt think the moon is fake, just gross https://yewtu.be/watch?v=3wGMsOhaPJsAug 03 05:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | That 1 Guy - The Moon is Disgusting (live) - InvidiousAug 03 05:59
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MinceRhttp://cdn.funnyisms.com/57c595c8-a0aa-487b-bc3d-0873c1576150.jpgAug 03 06:04
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DaemonFCI hope the liver and onions I make tomorrow is good.Aug 03 06:05
DaemonFCNever ran into another one I really liked more than MCL Cafeteria's.Aug 03 06:05
DaemonFCThey had it every Thursday.Aug 03 06:05
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mateyit didnt start with space though, the great satanic ritualists are faking gravity, magnetism and electricity tooAug 03 06:09
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mateythis computer is actually just a piece of cardboardAug 03 06:10
mateythats how powerful the human imagination is, peopleAug 03 06:10
mateyyou can use it for good or for evilAug 03 06:11
mateygranted i only bought this "computer" for surfing articlesAug 03 06:11
mateyi used to read the articles until i found out they were fakeAug 03 06:12
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MinceRi told you they're faking the earthAug 03 06:12
mateykindle is worse, you pay for every "book" you read on it but of course those dont existAug 03 06:12
matey<MinceR> i told you they're faking the earth <- its (literally) turtles all the way downAug 03 06:13
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mateythey just painted one blue and splashed a bunch of water on itAug 03 06:13
mateywhat a scamAug 03 06:13
DaemonFChttps://www.chicagotribune.com/dining/recipes/ct-kfc-recipe-test-20160818-story.htmlAug 03 06:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.chicagotribune.com | KFC recipe challenge: Tribune kitchen puts the 11 herbs and spices to the test – Chicago TribuneAug 03 06:14
mateylike we are supposed to believe its all turtles EXCEPT one is a planet on top? Aug 03 06:14
mateymakes no senseAug 03 06:14
DaemonFCI might make chicken gizzards with KFC's original recipe seasoning on them.Aug 03 06:14
DaemonFCWalmart still sells gizzards really cheap.Aug 03 06:14
mateyplanet turtle, yeah okay buddyAug 03 06:14
matey"the sun is a continuous thermonuclear explosion"-- this is chris hadfield, who to be fair is an astronaut and not (afaik) a physicistAug 03 06:19
mateybut i was saying the other day, you could easily argue the sun is already explodingAug 03 06:20
MinceRmatey: psh, you believe in turtles?Aug 03 06:22
MinceRgizzard wizardAug 03 06:22
matey <MinceR> matey: psh, you believe in turtles <- i thought i had one as a pet once, but it was just my imaginary friendAug 03 06:26
mateyeveryone else went along with itAug 03 06:26
matey"oh yes, thats a very nice turtle, whats his name"Aug 03 06:27
MinceRyou were programmed to believe in turtlesAug 03 06:27
mateyyeah by those damned cartoon ninjasAug 03 06:27
matey"turtles are real!"Aug 03 06:27
matey"of course they are, sweetie"Aug 03 06:27
MinceRthose cartoon ninjas aren't real eitherAug 03 06:28
mateyhttps://yewtu.be/watch?v=CMNry4PE93YAug 03 06:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Zombie Kid Likes Turtles - InvidiousAug 03 06:28
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techrights-newsGNOME 43 Plans to Introduce Redesigned Quick Settings • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167948Aug 03 08:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME 43 Plans to Introduce Redesigned Quick Settings | Tux MachinesAug 03 08:02
techrights-newsGNU/Linux user share on Steam continues rising — highest for years again https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/08/linux-user-share-on-steam-continues-rising-m-highest-for-years-again/Aug 03 08:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux user share on Steam continues rising — highest for years again | GamingOnLinuxAug 03 08:03
techrights-newsTwo companies that ought not exist at all https://www.theverge.com/2022/8/2/23288589/microsoft-outlook-app-crash-uber-email-receipts Outlook = malware platformAug 03 08:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Microsoft Outlook crashing when viewing Uber receipt emails - The VergeAug 03 08:04
techrights-newsA sysadmin’s guide to network interface configuration files | ⚓ https://opensource.com/article/22/8/network-configuration-files ䷉ Source: FreeSW | RedHat | IBM | GNU | Linux | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//opensource.com/article/22/8/network-configuration-filesAug 03 08:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A sysadmin's guide to network interface configuration files | Opensource.comAug 03 08:05
techrights-newsTelangana's Agriculture data management policy: The good, bad, and ugly. ⚓ https://internetfreedom.in/telanganas-agriculture-data-management-policy-the-good-bad-and-ugly/ ䷉ Source: internetfreedom | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//internetfreedom.in/telanganas-agriculture-data-management-policy-the-good-bad-and-ugly/Aug 03 08:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-internetfreedom.in | Telangana's Agriculture data management policy: The good, bad, and ugly.Aug 03 08:07
techrights-newsWhat does ICBM know about culture? It ruined so much in the Red Hat culture, causing workers, clients, and communities to flee... https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/8/it-leadership-improve-team-culture-nowAug 03 08:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | 5 powerful ways to improve your IT team's culture right now | The Enterprisers ProjectAug 03 08:08
techrights-news"enterprises have maintained or even increased productivity, the transition to remote work has proven challenging for relationship-building" = Bullshit! You just don't control the slaves and 'suits' became redundant https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/8/connections-disconnected-workplaceAug 03 08:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | 4 tips for building connections in a disconnected workplace | The Enterprisers ProjectAug 03 08:10
techrights-newsLinux Kernel 6.0 is Likely the Next Version Upgrade With Initial Rust Code http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167861#comment-34497Aug 03 08:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel 5.19 Officially Released, This Is What’s New | Tux MachinesAug 03 08:12
techrights-newsIBM-sponsored (disclose missing) marketing fluff https://www.itjungle.com/2022/08/03/jd-edwards-customers-face-support-decisions/Aug 03 08:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itjungle.com | JD Edwards Customers Face Support Decisions - IT JungleAug 03 08:14
techrights-newsmarketing spam... look at the wording. Puh-lease! https://www.itjungle.com/2022/08/03/security-automation-and-cloud-top-midrange-it-priorities-study-says/Aug 03 08:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itjungle.com | Security, Automation, and Cloud Top Midrange IT Priorities, Study Says - IT JungleAug 03 08:15
techrights-news"Modernization" creeping into IBM-sponsored narratives (PR). It means vendor lock-in. https://www.itjungle.com/2022/08/03/cleo-and-srinsoft-in-integration-modernization-link-up/Aug 03 08:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itjungle.com | Cleo and SrinSoft in Integration-Modernization Link Up - IT JungleAug 03 08:16
techrights-newsSome more IBM-sponsored fluff, storytelling instead of journalism https://www.itjungle.com/2022/08/03/four-hundred-monitor-august-3/Aug 03 08:17
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techrights-newsAnd IBM holes https://www.itjungle.com/2022/08/03/ibm-i-ptf-guide-volume-24-number-31/Aug 03 08:17
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techrights-newsICBM has always been good at buying and manipulating the media. Microsoft learned this from IBM. Lately Intel too was bribing the media a lot. And look what's happening. QUARTERLY LOSSES. They cannot even hide this with "creative" accounting...Aug 03 08:19
techrights-newsFor over a decade ICBM was sending people to talk to me, trying to manipulate how Techrights was covering ICBM. Each time they did this I 'ousted' the attempts. Now, imagine how much they do this WITHOUT PEOPLE WHO DO NOT OUST SUCH ATTEMPTS!Aug 03 08:22
techrights-newsPlay Crossword Puzzle Games on Linux Desktop With this Brand New GNOME App - It’s FOSS ⚓ https://itsfoss.com/crosswords/ ䷉ Source: ItsFOSS | GNU | Linux | Freesw | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//itsfoss.com/crosswords/Aug 03 08:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-itsfoss.com | Play Crossword Puzzle Games on Linux Desktop With this Brand New GNOME App - It's FOSSAug 03 08:23
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techrights-newsOBS Studio 28.0 beta released, set to be an “enormous release” - Neowin ⚓ https://www.neowin.net/news/obs-studio-280-beta-released-set-to-be-an-enormous-release/ ䷉ Source: neowin | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.neowin.net/news/obs-studio-280-beta-released-set-to-be-an-enormous-release/Aug 03 08:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.neowin.net | OBS Studio 28.0 beta released, set to be an “enormous release” - NeowinAug 03 08:45
techrights-newsguru3d.com is a dead site, defunct. Gulag Noise should delist it. This is like the TENTH time I see such spam in 2 weeks. https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/ad-linux-will-be-fasterpay-just-13-for-lifetime-license-microsoft-windows-10-to-play-everything%EF%BC%81.htmlAug 03 08:46
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techrights-newsThe high cost of "self-funded" Democrats https://pluralistic.net/2022/08/02/oligarchs-r-us/Aug 03 08:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pluralistic.net | Pluralistic: 02 Aug 2022 – Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory DoctorowAug 03 08:53
mateyso 1. heads, which is coreboot based, is still aroundAug 03 08:56
matey2. they added leahs nvmutil to itAug 03 08:56
mateyhttps://notabug.org/osboot/nvmutil/Aug 03 08:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-osboot/nvmutil: Newer fork of nvmutils, rewritten as a single C file. This program can modify Intel PHY NVM images for gigabit NICs, e.g. change MAC address, set checksums, etc. - NotABug.org: Free code hostingAug 03 08:57
matey"This program lets you modify the MAC address, correct/verify/invalidate checksums, swap/copy and dump regions on Intel PHY NVM images, which are small binary configuration files that go in flash, for Gigabit (ethernet) Intel NICs."Aug 03 08:58
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matey"My stress test is always: stress util, run xsensors and: high-pace video downscaled real-time and/or glmark2... If <90c for 1+ hour and video doesn't lag, it's good to go.Aug 03 09:02
mateyarticle rendered fucking useless by relevant image examples that will never. fucking. load.Aug 03 09:18
mateyhttps://medium.com/codex/stop-using-malloc-what-every-good-developer-needs-to-know-about-memory-allocation-cae2aa39b6d9Aug 03 09:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Stop Using malloc! What Every Good Developer Needs to Know About Memory Allocation | by Marius Debussche | CodeX | MediumAug 03 09:18
mateymedium has been a festering welt on the anus of the web for yearsAug 03 09:19
mateyit barely renders text and it fucks up everything elseAug 03 09:19
mateyi wonder what kind of especially low-grade crack you have to smoke to think "hey, you know what would be a great thing to blog with? medium!"Aug 03 09:20
mateyeven wordpress is a saner choice-- what else do you need to know about itAug 03 09:20
mateyand i dont mean the shitty bloated hosted yourself versionAug 03 09:20
mateyi mean the shittier, bloatier destroy-the-internet "free" versionAug 03 09:20
mateyif only medium was hosted in ukraine, at least putin could have done ONE good thing while thereAug 03 09:21
matey"The precise spelling of all of these new “keywords” is as Predefined Macros, defined by the compiler. This may feel like a distinction without a difference, but the distinction is what allows us to do this without breaking existing user code." https://thephd.dev/ever-closer-c23-improvementsAug 03 09:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thephd.dev | Ever Closer - C23 Draws Nearer | The PastureAug 03 09:31
mateyi like when people truly give a shit about backwards compatibilityAug 03 09:31
matey"Most compilers emit a warning since it’s likely unintended for you to stomp all over existing macro space, but what this means is that it’s entirely backwards compatible for your code to continue to #define bool int or whatever horrific crimes you were committing in days gone by."Aug 03 09:32
schestowitz[TR2]backwards compatibility = bad for "buisness"Aug 03 09:32
schestowitz[TR2]"DO YOU WANT TO STARVE !!!'Aug 03 09:33
mateyFolks who were using a typedef instead, such asAug 03 09:33
mateytypedef int bool;Aug 03 09:33
mateyMay need to use #undef bool to get around the issue, or scope their typedef inside of an #if statement:<schestowitz[TR2]> "DO YOU WANT TO STARVE !!!' <- lol is that why rust is perpetually incompatible with itself?Aug 03 09:33
techrights-newsRed Hat / IBM Fluff • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167949Aug 03 09:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat / IBM Fluff | Tux MachinesAug 03 09:34
techrights-newsOBS Studio 28.0 Promises 10-Bit Color Support and HDR Video Encoding, Qt 6 Port, and More • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167950Aug 03 09:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OBS Studio 28.0 Promises 10-Bit Color Support and HDR Video Encoding, Qt 6 Port, and More | Tux MachinesAug 03 09:34
techrights-newsIRC Proceedings: Tuesday, August 02, 2022 | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/08/03/irc-log-020822/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/08/03/irc-log-020822/Aug 03 09:35
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matey… And that brings us to the TenDRA compiler, which can use 0x55555555 for its null pointer representation, if you like.Aug 03 09:36
mateySo here’s an implementation of C compiling to x86 where the value of NULL is 0, but the underlying byte-by-byte representation is 0x55555555.Aug 03 09:36
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mateyand theyre getting rid of k&r declarationsAug 03 09:38
mateywhich i would be pissed about, except that theres ample evidence that k&r would have supported it, and it was only there for a million years to avoid breaking shit, but they were still temptedAug 03 09:39
mateyi guess theyre error prone and worth avoiding anyway, so Aug 03 09:39
matey/me shrugsAug 03 09:39
mateyritchie didnt love the old declarationsAug 03 09:40
mateyand considered parameter prototypes the most important change in the ansi standardAug 03 09:41
mateyhe points out that even if its been deprecated for a third of a century, the chances of gcc or clang removing compatibility switches for the old standards is about 0%Aug 03 09:43
mateyif python was this meticulous id probably fall in love with every new version of itAug 03 09:44
mateyexcept the microsoft ones, obviouslyAug 03 09:44
mateyVariably-Modified Types are types which, like VLAs, are dependent on some runtime information. But, unlike VLAs, they do not do any of the allocation and its associated pitfalls: it just represents a type that keeps its own size around (in bytes). The way they do this is by, essentially, taking the syntax space of “pointer to VLA” and similar.Aug 03 09:45
mateyVMTs are still useful when used locally within a function, but as a means of actual transportation of information across functions and structures they continue to leave a lot to be desired. Walter Bright’s criticism of C continues to be relevant to this day, and we continue to have bugs where developers misinterpret or otherwise get the size wrong.Aug 03 09:47
mateyhttps://www.digitalmars.com/articles/C-biggest-mistake.htmlAug 03 09:47
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mateyThis seemingly innocuous convenience feature is the root of endless evil. It means that once arrays leave the scope in which they are defined, they become pointers, and lose the information which gives the extent of the array — the array dimension. What are the consequences of losing this information? Aug 03 09:49
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mateyAn alternative must be used. For strings, it’s the whole reason for the 0 terminator. For other arrays, it is inferred programmatically from the context. Naturally, every situation is different, and so an endless array (!) of bugs ensues. Aug 03 09:50
mateyThe galaxy of C string functions, from the unsafe strcpy() to sprintf() onwards, is a direct result. There are various attempts at fixing this, such as the Safe C Library. Then there are all the buffer overflows, because functions handed a pointer have no idea what the limits are, and no array bounds checking is possible. Aug 03 09:50
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mjg59_matey: Yeah turns out that C's design decisions weren't greatAug 03 09:57
mjg59_pascal's string format was better in this respect but then of course you can't just treat random blocks of memory as stringsAug 03 09:58
mateyim not listening to this shit from someone who thinks rust is goodAug 03 09:58
mateyi agree with the example, but not where youre most likely going with thisAug 03 09:58
mateyill simply go with mincer over what you say about language design on anything i dont have a personal opinion on alreadyAug 03 09:59
mjg59_Hey I think people can disagree about whether Rust's design decisions are good but that doesn't mean they need to say C is goodAug 03 09:59
mateyi agree that theres no logically-defensible reason why the two would be related, its clearly a fallacyAug 03 10:00
mateyof course conclusions drawn from fallacies can be still be trueAug 03 10:00
mjg59_I think C is bad and I tend towards Rust is good and you don't need to agree with both of thoseAug 03 10:00
mateyand my own leaps have enabled me to predict some of your worst actions, soAug 03 10:00
mateygoing with experience until it lets me downAug 03 10:00
mateyits not a perfect system-- then again, nothing isAug 03 10:00
mateyshort version: i trust mincers opinion moreAug 03 10:01
mateybut i also agree with walter bright on thisAug 03 10:02
mateythe things that make c unattractive to me are pretty bad, for me, in my opinionAug 03 10:02
mateyi have yet to see an alternative that doesnt look even worse, that is still a real alternative to c-- again in my opinionAug 03 10:03
mateyfor example, im tempted to look at c++ this way. i think thats generous, but its also reasonable.Aug 03 10:03
mateyit may be wildly incorrect-- but a mistake can be a reasonable one.Aug 03 10:03
mjg59_c++ definitely provides alternatives to a bunch of C's failingsAug 03 10:03
mjg59_But it doesn't mandate them, so it's still hard to reviewAug 03 10:04
mateysadly it doesnt (according to someone i was reading today) fix arrays are pointers.Aug 03 10:04
mateywell there you go, you think mandating good practices in a language is a good thingAug 03 10:04
mjg59_Yeah it has objects that allow you to just never do thatAug 03 10:04
mateyand i think it is a good thing in extreme instancesAug 03 10:04
mjg59_But you can still just fuck with memory directly if you wantAug 03 10:05
matey Yeah it has objects that allow you to just never do that <- thats a nasty way to get out of a simple arrayAug 03 10:05
mjg59_Like C++ has std::string that has an actual ideal of lengthAug 03 10:05
mateyof course, when python does it i dont complain-- so this may be purely hypocritical. but then im the one who recognises the possibilityAug 03 10:05
matey C++ has std::string that has an actual ideal of length <- an "ideal"Aug 03 10:05
mjg59_Er, ideaAug 03 10:05
mjg59_Not idealAug 03 10:05
mateyohAug 03 10:05
mateywhen you said idealAug 03 10:05
mateyi read it like "ideally, its this length"Aug 03 10:06
matey"but really, its anyones guess!"Aug 03 10:06
mateywhich i admire the honesty, but as a design idea its depressionAug 03 10:06
mateydepressingAug 03 10:06
mateyyou meant the conceptAug 03 10:06
mjg59_Once something's in a std::string you can just work on it without worrying about running off the endAug 03 10:06
mateythat is niceAug 03 10:06
mateyi mean pascal had no problems with thisAug 03 10:07
mateybasic fixed the issue in 1964 ffs, before c was even writtenAug 03 10:07
mateybut to be fairAug 03 10:08
mateyc does get closer to the metal, and the metal (by design) generally does not give a shitAug 03 10:08
mateycpu: *willy wonka meme* "tell more more about these 'strings' you keep going on about..."Aug 03 10:08
mateystill, as a feature it never felt like asking the world to get it rightAug 03 10:09
mjg59_We build a lot of abstractions on the metal to make it behave more reasonablyAug 03 10:32
mjg59_Also crap like Spectre has kind of taught us that the metal doesn't behave in the way that languages assume it doesAug 03 10:32
matey <mjg59_> We build a lot of abstractions on the metal to make it behave more reasonably <- im a big fan of many of thoseAug 03 10:34
mateyhowever, the fact that c is closer to the metal is a featureAug 03 10:35
matey Also crap like Spectre has kind of taught us that the metal doesn't behave in the way <- youre really trying to blame the wrong thing hereAug 03 10:35
mateyintel is a scamAug 03 10:35
mateyand x86 should be deprecated universallyAug 03 10:36
psydruidwe should be grateful for the existence of intel and x86Aug 03 10:36
mateylolAug 03 10:36
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psydruidso that certain mercenary developers spend all their time messing with that and don't have the time and motivation to infect other hardware with their malwareAug 03 10:38
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mjg59_matey: It's not just Intel - aspects of this have hit AMD, ARM, and POWERAug 03 10:48
mjg59_Intel definitely seems to be hit worst, but it's not entirely clear how much of this is Intel being worse and how much is people focusing on Intel because they've historically been the most interesting vendorAug 03 10:49
mjg59_Things might change as AMD get more traction in the server spaceAug 03 10:49
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mateyi dont care much about POWER and amd is still x86Aug 03 10:54
mateyi get what youre saying about armAug 03 10:54
mateywithout free hardware, free software is going to become an increasingly inadequate solutionAug 03 10:55
mateyoliva and i used to talk about this, and he completely failed to convince me that you didnt have to worry about this shit as long as you ran free softwareAug 03 10:55
mateyi think the fsf is oblivious to threats moving to hardware that free software and free firmware have failed to alleviateAug 03 10:57
mateyor when their approach to firmware makes it more impossible to fix (or even research, thus fix in a free way)Aug 03 10:57
techrights-newsSpace Force ☛ https://text.npr.org/1113936229 | Source: NPRAug 03 10:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-text.npr.org | The Space Force is scrapping the annual fitness test in favor of wearable trackersAug 03 10:57
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techrights-newsActivision Blizzard ☛ https://www.windowscentral.com/gaming/sony-says-xboxs-call-of-duty-acquisition-could-influence-users-console-choice-microsoft-responds | Source: Windows CentralAug 03 11:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.windowscentral.com | Sony says Xbox’s Call of Duty acquisition could ‘influence users’ console choice,’ Microsoft responds | Windows CentralAug 03 11:01
*psydruid doesn't even understand having closed source system firmware in this day and ageAug 03 11:01
mjg59_Requiring closed source firmware to boot a CPU is obsceneAug 03 11:02
schestowitz[TR2]Intel's grove: only the paranod surviveAug 03 11:03
schestowitz[TR2]Intel's otelini: let's commit crimes to surveiveAug 03 11:03
schestowitz[TR2]http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_Crimes_and_OffencesAug 03 11:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Intel Crimes and Offences - TechrightsAug 03 11:04
schestowitz[TR2]he even has a mafia-sounding nameAug 03 11:04
schestowitz[TR2]the last intel CEO should have been arfrestedAug 03 11:04
schestowitz[TR2]he commited crimesAug 03 11:04
schestowitz[TR2]then "resigned"Aug 03 11:04
schestowitz[TR2]welcome to americaAug 03 11:04
schestowitz[TR2]land of white-collar crime... with get-out-of-jail cardAug 03 11:04
schestowitz[TR2]Microoft Peters's crime were not erlated to his workAug 03 11:06
schestowitz[TR2]so he couldm not just "resign" to avoid proseuctionAug 03 11:06
schestowitz[TR2]http://techrights.org/2022/06/09/another-theranos-moment/Aug 03 11:07
schestowitz[TR2]resignedAug 03 11:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft, EPO Awards, and Sexual Abuse (Theranos All Over Again) | TechrightsAug 03 11:07
schestowitz[TR2]no consequencesAug 03 11:07
schestowitz[TR2]http://techrights.org/2022/06/09/alex-kipman-vs-antonio-campinos/Aug 03 11:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] No Diplomatic Immunity for Alex Kipman | TechrightsAug 03 11:07
schestowitz[TR2]if you want to commit a crime, and you want to be free, go to USAAug 03 11:07
schestowitz[TR2]you can eveeeen fly pedoplanesAug 03 11:08
schestowitz[TR2]just make sure you get good lawyersAug 03 11:08
schestowitz[TR2]to stave off scrutinyAug 03 11:08
schestowitz[TR2]and buy a few news [sic] papersAug 03 11:08
schestowitz[TR2]like MbS didAug 03 11:08
schestowitz[TR2]and after murdering US journaaaalists he fist-bumped BidenAug 03 11:08
schestowitz[TR2]high-fioved Putin months after the murderAug 03 11:08
schestowitz[TR2]Trump told him he owed him because "I saved your *ass"Aug 03 11:09
schestowitz[TR2]criminal syndicatedn up at the topAug 03 11:09
schestowitz[TR2]well-connected, so only swartz gets prosecutedAug 03 11:09
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schestowitz[TR2]the people who arrange for bribes from child-sec-trafficking to MITAug 03 11:09
schestowitz[TR2]they "resigned"Aug 03 11:09
schestowitz[TR2]and the payer, gates, is still habitually hailed as a hero by media he bribesAug 03 11:10
schestowitz[TR2]mjg59_ will helpAug 03 11:10
schestowitz[TR2]he will co-found a petityionAug 03 11:10
schestowitz[TR2]to deflect attention to the founder of gnu/linuxAug 03 11:10
schestowitz[TR2]to deflect attentionAug 03 11:11
schestowitz[TR2]away from bill gates, jeffrey epstein, and their actual enablers at mitAug 03 11:11
schestowitz[TR2]bonus point: you hurt fsf and get JOB OFFERS.. from MicrosoftAug 03 11:11
techrights-newsSteamOS ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/08/steamos-33-and-steam-deck-client-updates-released-for-all-users/ | Source: GamingOnLinuxAug 03 11:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SteamOS 3.3 and Steam Deck Client updates released for all users | GamingOnLinuxAug 03 11:11
techrights-news"OBS Studio 28.0 Beta" ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/08/obs-studio-280-beta-1-brings-linux-improvements-lots-of-new-features/ | Source: GamingOnLinuxAug 03 11:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-OBS Studio 28.0 Beta 1 brings Linux improvements, lots of new features | GamingOnLinuxAug 03 11:12
techrights-newsOBS Studio 28.0 Beta 1 brings Linux improvements, lots of new features http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167950#comment-34499Aug 03 11:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OBS Studio 28.0 Promises 10-Bit Color Support and HDR Video Encoding, Qt 6 Port, and More | Tux MachinesAug 03 11:13
techrights-news"It's a fresh month which means a new curated monthly bundle with the Humble Choice" ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/08/humble-choice-has-the-ascent-hot-wheels-unleashed-a-plague-tale-innocence/ | Source: GamingOnLinuxAug 03 11:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Humble Choice has The Ascent, Hot Wheels Unleashed, A Plague Tale: Innocence | GamingOnLinuxAug 03 11:13
techrights-newsScummVM 2.6.0 out now with more retro game support http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167913#comment-34500Aug 03 11:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | ScummVM 2.6.0 or: Insane Escapism | Tux MachinesAug 03 11:15
matey Requiring closed source firmware to boot a CPU is obscene <- i agreeAug 03 11:15
mateyhow to fix that and make it so thats not required is the issueAug 03 11:15
matey if you want to commit a crime, and you want to be free, go to USA <- thats not exactly how it worksAug 03 11:16
mateyhe will co-found a petityion <- pettytion?Aug 03 11:17
mateylike a petition, but petty?Aug 03 11:17
matey/me high-fives synergy for that oneAug 03 11:17
schestowitz[TR2]hehe, that's the worst typo of them alklAug 03 11:18
schestowitz[TR2]not dyslexic, just typing while standing or sometitmes typing too fast adn not borthering to checkAug 03 11:19
matey/me can think of a range of pettytions from 2018 to 2021Aug 03 11:19
techrights-news"DXVK is a Direct3D to Vulkan translation layer used in Proton, to help run Windows games on Linux and Steam Deck." ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/08/dxvk-1103-out-with-work-for-halo-infinite-plus-better-stray-performance-for-proton/ | Source: GamingOnLinuxAug 03 11:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-DXVK 1.10.3 out with work for Halo Infinite plus better Stray performance for Proton | GamingOnLinuxAug 03 11:19
techrights-newsScrabdackle ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/08/check-out-the-new-scrabdackle-demo-a-scribbly-hand-drawn-zelda-like-adventure/ | Source: GamingOnLinuxAug 03 11:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Check out the new Scrabdackle demo, a scribbly hand-drawn Zelda-like adventure | GamingOnLinuxAug 03 11:19
schestowitz[TR2]pettytions = pretty please, fsf, remove your own founderAug 03 11:20
schestowitz[TR2]signed, people who work on azure and get job offers from microsoftAug 03 11:20
mateyand debianAug 03 11:20
schestowitz[TR2]"Debian"Aug 03 11:20
schestowitz[TR2]many DDs work for companiesAug 03 11:20
schestowitz[TR2]and some are not exactly commited to Debian valuesAug 03 11:20
schestowitz[TR2]and few disclosure their commercial interests as DDsAug 03 11:20
mateyto the point where debian no longer appears to have anyAug 03 11:21
schestowitz[TR2]one of my colleagues at work was a DDDAug 03 11:21
schestowitz[TR2]Ban BellAug 03 11:21
schestowitz[TR2]aka bbellAug 03 11:21
mateythey remove people with values and keep people without themAug 03 11:21
schestowitz[TR2]*BenAug 03 11:21
schestowitz[TR2]matey: they surround themselves with like-minded peoplAug 03 11:21
mateyfsvovAug 03 11:21
schestowitz[TR2]ewho cannot chastise themAug 03 11:21
schestowitz[TR2]who are you here for, Canonical?Aug 03 11:21
schestowitz[TR2]Oh, I'm here for Gulag,, I love Ubuntu BTWAug 03 11:21
britneyi use arch btwAug 03 11:22
schestowitz[TR2]in work, shits bring other shitsAug 03 11:22
schestowitz[TR2]until the org collapseAug 03 11:22
matey<britney> i use arch btw XDAug 03 11:22
schestowitz[TR2]it improve the personal survivcal chancesAug 03 11:22
schestowitz[TR2]at the expenses of the survival of the org itselfAug 03 11:22
schestowitz[TR2]so not collective survivalAug 03 11:22
schestowitz[TR2]they hoard andll the lifeboatssAug 03 11:22
schestowitz[TR2]http://techrights.org/2022/06/29/c-and-d-players/Aug 03 11:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO is “Building a Team of C and D Players” | TechrightsAug 03 11:23
schestowitz[TR2]“Steve Jobs has a saying that A players hire A players; B players hire C players; and C players hire D players. It doesn’t take long to get to Z players. This trickle-down effect causes bozo explosions in companies.”Aug 03 11:23
mateysteve jobs was a bozoAug 03 11:23
schestowitz[TR2]z playerAug 03 11:24
schestowitz[TR2]not playing muchAug 03 11:24
mateybut he knew how to make money (as long as it was with apple)Aug 03 11:24
schestowitz[TR2]just bullying peopleAug 03 11:24
schestowitz[TR2]he's no longer making money btwAug 03 11:24
schestowitz[TR2]worked himself to deathAug 03 11:24
mateyim not sure thats what happenedAug 03 11:24
techrights-news"Shadows of Adam is a JRPG inspired retro game from Something Classic Games that released back in 2017" ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/08/inspired-by-classic-jrpgs-shadows-of-adam-gets-improved-linux-and-steam-deck-support/ | Source: GamingOnLinuxAug 03 11:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Inspired by classic JRPGs, Shadows of Adam gets improved Linux and Steam Deck support | GamingOnLinuxAug 03 11:25
schestowitz[TR2]matey: I was told by people who know him personallyAug 03 11:25
schestowitz[TR2]when apple sacked him it harmed his health a lotAug 03 11:25
schestowitz[TR2]now, I don't know what factors could contribute to his cancerAug 03 11:25
schestowitz[TR2]but he also dealth poorly with iutAug 03 11:25
schestowitz[TR2]*dealtAug 03 11:25
schestowitz[TR2]not a freudian slip btwAug 03 11:25
mateyno, you just have your keyboard set to "gollum"Aug 03 11:26
techrights-news"The free and open source first-person strategy shooter Unvanquished has a new Beta release" ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/08/free-first-person-strategy-shooter-unvanquished-version-053-out-now/ | Source: GamingOnLinuxAug 03 11:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Free first-person strategy shooter Unvanquished version 0.53 out now | GamingOnLinuxAug 03 11:26
schestowitz[TR2]donth youth sayth dith to meAug 03 11:26
mateymine is set to mr magooAug 03 11:26
schestowitz[TR2]the rapper?Aug 03 11:26
mateydidnt know there was a rapper by that nameAug 03 11:27
mateyi mean the one voiced by mr howellAug 03 11:27
mateywhos name wasnt actually mr howellAug 03 11:27
schestowitz[TR2]https://yewtu.be/watch?v=APHonXLtEEYAug 03 11:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Timbaland & Magoo - Luv 2 Luv Ya (Original Video) - InvidiousAug 03 11:27
schestowitz[TR2]https://yewtu.be/watch?v=q5-QyiJepbMAug 03 11:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | What Happened to Magoo? - InvidiousAug 03 11:27
mateybut thats the name he was best known byAug 03 11:27
mateyhttps://yewtu.be/watch?v=xQcBXqHBcZMAug 03 11:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Gilligans Island -Classic Mr Howell on how to live if you win $1 million - InvidiousAug 03 11:28
techrights-news"Love exploration and mining? Want to do it with many explosions? Check out the new Native Linux release of BLASTRONAUT." ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/08/blastronaut-is-a-fresh-mining-game-full-of-explosions/ | Source: GamingOnLinuxAug 03 11:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-BLASTRONAUT is a fresh mining game full of explosions | GamingOnLinuxAug 03 11:28
techrights-news"Frogun is a brand new Native Linux release, designed in the spirit of the PlayStation 1 and Nintendo 64 era, this is a proper classic 3D platformer. Note: key provided by their PR team." ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/08/frogun-is-a-3d-platformer-with-the-soul-of-a-nintendo-64-game/ | Source: GamingOnLinuxAug 03 11:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Frogun is a 3D platformer with the soul of a Nintendo 64 game | GamingOnLinuxAug 03 11:28
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techrights-news"The OpenNCC NCB is an accelerated AI reference platform fully developed by EyeCloud.AI. This board can be interfaced with Raspberry Pi board." ☛ https://linuxgizmos.com/openncc-ncb-an-open-source-alternative-to-intels-neural-compute-stick-2/ | Source: Linux GizmosAug 03 11:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/openncc-ncb-an-open-source-alternative-to-intels-neural-compute-stick-2/ )Aug 03 11:33
techrights-newsWhat does it have to do with Linux??? The users of GNU/Linux should strive to avoid such low-grade, defective products from Microsofters. ☛ https://linuxgizmos.com/full-size-picmg-1-3-slot-cpu-card-supports-10th-11th-gen-intel-processors/ | Source: Linux GizmosAug 03 11:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/full-size-picmg-1-3-slot-cpu-card-supports-10th-11th-gen-intel-processors/ )Aug 03 11:34
techrights-news"The root partition will be 4 GiB big. /var will be on a separate, 10 GiB big partition" ☛ https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/using-hosted-image-builder-its-api | Source: Red Hat OfficialAug 03 11:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Using hosted image builder via its APIAug 03 11:35
schestowitz[TR2]DaemonFC: did you consider getting your own blog domain? no ads..Aug 03 11:36
schestowitz[TR2](and not registered via wordpress.com to fake controlling it)Aug 03 11:36
techrights-newsWhere is OStattic today? Dead, gone. They tried to peddle Microsoft talking points, but like Softpedia's coup it led to a lack of audience. As for Sam Dean, the editor, Zemlin and Sheela Microsoft Foundation canned HIM TOO.Aug 03 11:38
techrights-news"The business owner or customers cannot interact with the eCommerce system without an OS." ☛ https://www.unixmen.com/linux-or-windows-for-ecommerce/ | Source: Unix MenAug 03 11:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://www.unixmen.com/linux-or-windows-for-ecommerce/ )Aug 03 11:38
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techrights-news'Linux' Foundation only "hires" or pays Torvalds to borrow (or access) his trademark, using him as a human mascot while cheapening the brand for Microsoft and friends. The trademark aspect is related to the Linux Mark. It is monetised to death by openwashing PR activities.Aug 03 11:41
techrights-newsGuess which "Linux" conference for conference spam? "He got a job offer from BillG so he went and hid out at Microsoft." https://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale/19x/speakers/seamus-blackleyAug 03 11:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.socallinuxexpo.org | Seamus Blackley | SCALE 19xAug 03 11:42
DaemonFC<schestowitz[TR2]> DaemonFC: did you consider getting your own blog domain? no ads..Aug 03 11:43
techuseryou liarAug 03 11:43
DaemonFCPossibly. That does come with my own e-mail address.Aug 03 11:43
techuser> your ownAug 03 11:43
techuseryour *rented*Aug 03 11:43
techrights-news"I’ve killed at least two Mac conferences. [...] by injecting Microsoft content into the conference, the conference got shut down. The guy who ran it said, why am I doing this?" -Microsoft's chief evangelist http://techrights.org/2009/02/08/microsoft-evilness-galore/Aug 03 11:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | 66 Pages of Microsoft Evilness | TechrightsAug 03 11:43
techrights-news"You want to infiltrate those. Again, there’s two categories. There’s those that are controlled by vendors; like MSJ; we control that. And there’s those that are independent. [...] So that’s how you use journals that we control. The ones that third parties control, like the WinTech Journal, you want to infiltrate." Microsoft's chief evangelist http://techrights.org/2009/02/08/microsoft-evilness-galore/Aug 03 11:44
techuserI feel like I deal with multiple-layered honeypot, and I don't know where the "truth" isAug 03 11:44
techrights-news"You want to infiltrate those. Again, there’s two categories. There’s those that are controlled by vendors; like MSJ; we control that. And there’s those that are independent. [...] So that’s how you use journals that we control. The ones that third parties control, like the WinTech Journal, you want to infiltrate." http://techrights.org/2009/02/08/microsoft-evilness-galore/Aug 03 11:44
DaemonFC"the conference got shut down. The guy who ran it said, why am I doing this?"Aug 03 11:44
DaemonFCMicrosoft Loves DebconfAug 03 11:44
mateyI feel like I deal with multiple-layered honeypot, and I don't know where the "truth" is <- lots of people deal with that feelingAug 03 11:44
mateybut who are you calling a liar?Aug 03 11:45
schestowitz[TR2]techuser: icann is then his issueAug 03 11:45
schestowitz[TR2]and ianaAug 03 11:45
matey/me presumes its horsefaceAug 03 11:45
schestowitz[TR2]noAug 03 11:45
schestowitz[TR2]it's somehaxorAug 03 11:45
DaemonFCschestowitz[TR2], It wouldn't surprise me if "Outreach to Women" was a sex trafficking operation.Aug 03 11:45
horsefaceit's me.Aug 03 11:45
mateyno, other way aroundAug 03 11:45
schestowitz[TR2]I think he's the youngest person hereAug 03 11:45
matey/me shakes his headAug 03 11:45
mateyi know who techuser isAug 03 11:45
horsefacehigh i'm hu.Aug 03 11:45
horsefacehiAug 03 11:45
mateyim asking who he is calling a liarAug 03 11:45
horsefacehigh i'm hiAug 03 11:45
schestowitz[TR2]if I lives where he lives, I too would be suspicious of everyoneAug 03 11:45
schestowitz[TR2]his poresident sends the locals to die for USAAug 03 11:46
DaemonFCWho else would pay for minors to cross international boundaries?Aug 03 11:46
schestowitz[TR2]*presidentAug 03 11:46
mateyyeah but thats not why hes like thatAug 03 11:46
DaemonFCAlone.Aug 03 11:46
mateyhes like that because his parents lie to him a lotAug 03 11:46
techuserschestowitz[TR2] being a liar. He said "your own" domain, but you don't own it.Aug 03 11:46
mateyreally fucks with your sense of trustAug 03 11:46
DaemonFCInto a country that they don't know their way around in, and cannot speak the national language....Aug 03 11:46
schestowitz[TR2]matey: possiblyAug 03 11:46
schestowitz[TR2]parenting is overratedAug 03 11:47
techuserparents create a fake world for the children, where they feel "safe"Aug 03 11:47
DaemonFCI heard "Debconf Kosovo".Aug 03 11:47
mateyHe said "your own" domain, but you don't own it. <- think this is more of an inaccuracyAug 03 11:47
techrights-newsAnti-GNU/Linux FUD. Microsoft is NERVOUS!! ... redmond speaks: "Previously her work has appeared in ... and Official Xbox Magazine." https://www.pcworld.com/article/820164/5-reasons-angry-nerds-switch-linux.htmlAug 03 11:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-5 terrible reasons angry nerds say I should switch to Linux | PCWorldAug 03 11:48
matey<techuser> parents create a fake world for the children, where they feel "safe" <- do you feel "safe"?Aug 03 11:48
techuserno. The world did break. I think I will feel permanently depressed.Aug 03 11:48
schestowitz[TR2]matey: IP addresses are also leasedAug 03 11:48
techuser*that worldAug 03 11:48
mateyyou mightAug 03 11:48
schestowitz[TR2]everyone on the Net is a tenantAug 03 11:48
schestowitz[TR2]on the earth tooAug 03 11:48
schestowitz[TR2]people pay lots of money to "buy land"Aug 03 11:48
schestowitz[TR2]who from?Aug 03 11:48
schestowitz[TR2]good questionAug 03 11:48
schestowitz[TR2]2 months ago we "bought land"Aug 03 11:49
schestowitz[TR2]somewhere super-cheapAug 03 11:49
mateypfft, you believe in money?Aug 03 11:49
schestowitz[TR2]money is leasedAug 03 11:49
schestowitz[TR2]check the footnote on banknotesAug 03 11:49
schestowitz[TR2]you don't own themAug 03 11:49
schestowitz[TR2]iirc, burning money or destroying coins can getg you in hot waterAug 03 11:50
DaemonFCThe last time I heard about Kosovo, it was Clinton's war to back the separatists from Yugoslavia.Aug 03 11:50
schestowitz[TR2]becausde they are not yoursAug 03 11:50
mateyyou dontAug 03 11:50
mateyspending money thats been destroyed is an issueAug 03 11:50
DaemonFCOne of Clinton's legacies was the breakup of Yugoslavia. It happened a couple years after he left office.Aug 03 11:50
mateypeople make coins into jewelry, its fine as long as they dont try to use them as legal tenderAug 03 11:50
schestowitz[TR2]in sixelland people burned actual money for heatingAug 03 11:50
schestowitz[TR2]because hitler was over-printing itAug 03 11:50
schestowitz[TR2]or his predecessor tooAug 03 11:51
schestowitz[TR2]to game the treatyAug 03 11:51
DaemonFCThen the triple damned Catholic church started dumping Serbs all over the United States.Aug 03 11:51
mateyklf burned all their profitsAug 03 11:51
mateyliterallyAug 03 11:51
DaemonFCThe only thing they ever do while they suckle the welfare programs here is tell me how much they hate my country.Aug 03 11:51
DaemonFCFuck, nobody's keeping them here against their will. They can go back.Aug 03 11:52
techrights-newsBuying the system, literally https://doctorow.medium.com/the-high-cost-of-self-funded-democrats-b0a5ffc4bfb1Aug 03 11:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-doctorow.medium.com | The high cost of “self-funded” Democrats | by Cory Doctorow | Aug, 2022 | MediumAug 03 11:52
techrights-newsregulations.gov is blocked by javascript!!! https://www.regulations.gov/Aug 03 11:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Regulations.govAug 03 11:52
DaemonFCThe Catholics bring them here AND employ them and all they do is bitch bitch bitch about how much they hate America.Aug 03 11:52
phanesbro that's racist afAug 03 11:52
techrights-newsSome vote banks https://eu.freep.com/story/news/politics/elections/2022/08/02/tlaib-12-th-congressional-district-detroit/10200612002/Aug 03 11:52
phanesnot racist, xenophobicAug 03 11:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.freep.com | Tlaib wins race for Democratic nod in new Detroit-Dearborn districtAug 03 11:52
phanesthere are plenty of serbs that contribute just fine to their communitiesAug 03 11:53
mateymaking fun of scientology is xenuphobicAug 03 11:53
DaemonFCThe only ones I ever heard about were working for the Catholics and saying how much they hated it here.Aug 03 11:53
schestowitz[TR2]xenu :-)Aug 03 11:54
matey#notallserbsAug 03 11:54
mateyi dont think thats where he was going with thatAug 03 11:54
mateybut who knowsAug 03 11:54
schestowitz[TR2]what did biden call serbs?Aug 03 11:54
schestowitz[TR2]"animals"?Aug 03 11:54
schestowitz[TR2]biden is not racistAug 03 11:54
*phanes shrugsAug 03 11:54
techuserI think enjoying fantasy games/movies in my early childhood did fuck up my life/expectationsAug 03 11:54
schestowitz[TR2]biden is black... he promotes coal and opilAug 03 11:54
DaemonFCschestowitz[TR2], The Catholics lost $3 million that they dumped into the abortion ban constitutional amendment that failed last nigh....in Kansas of all places.Aug 03 11:54
DaemonFCNot only failed, but failed big time.Aug 03 11:54
matey<techuser> I think enjoying fantasy games/movies in my early childhood did fuck up my life/expectations <- i dontAug 03 11:54
phanes"this other guy is xenophobic trash and people don't recognize it, so i can be too"Aug 03 11:54
techuserbecause I now have to realize that I will be yet another sad worker, until I retireAug 03 11:54
DaemonFCOnly a third of voters in Kansas backed a total abortion ban in the state constitution.Aug 03 11:55
schestowitz[TR2]techuser: maybe not . your age group "sucks"Aug 03 11:55
mateyi think you probably played them to escape the things that fucked up your expectationsAug 03 11:55
schestowitz[TR2]you have little futureAug 03 11:55
schestowitz[TR2]no chace of buying a home until near deathAug 03 11:55
mateyoh shut the fuck up, royAug 03 11:55
schestowitz[TR2]you borrow from the banks, at bestAug 03 11:55
techuseryes, I did escape reality too much I thinkAug 03 11:55
mateyplease get a brain before you give him adviceAug 03 11:55
schestowitz[TR2]matey: it's true thoughAug 03 11:55
schestowitz[TR2]speak to teens todayAug 03 11:55
schestowitz[TR2]about job propsectsAug 03 11:55
mateyyou dont know what youre talking aboutAug 03 11:55
schestowitz[TR2]their parents cannot send them to colllageAug 03 11:55
DaemonFCI hate the Catholic Church. They don't do anything except ruin my country.Aug 03 11:55
phanesyeah our college system is as broken as our real estate marketAug 03 11:56
phanesits a debt trapAug 03 11:56
DaemonFCWell, they're shrinking but they're still plenty big to be an annoyance.Aug 03 11:56
mateythat much is certainly trueAug 03 11:56
phanesso much so that our industry has adapted to a workforce without degreesAug 03 11:56
DaemonFCThey should be considered a foreign invader which is here to meddle.Aug 03 11:56
DaemonFCThey have their own city state and they're a corrupt European institution.Aug 03 11:56
DaemonFCThey should be illegal.Aug 03 11:56
schestowitz[TR2]matey: many young people today face possible evictionbAug 03 11:56
schestowitz[TR2]because the parents are out of workAug 03 11:57
mateyyoure an idiot of the highest order, you really areAug 03 11:57
schestowitz[TR2]as a kid, I got shocked when I realised "dad was in debt"Aug 03 11:57
schestowitz[TR2]now it's even worse than just debtAug 03 11:57
mateytechuser, if you do just one thing, dont let roy give you adviceAug 03 11:57
mateyhes a markov chain bot, or should have beenAug 03 11:57
phaneswhat the catholics need is a system of accountability within their own communities that doesn't involve a free passAug 03 11:57
schestowitz[TR2]I still remember where the car was when my dad told me thisAug 03 11:57
schestowitz[TR2]and I was about 10Aug 03 11:57
schestowitz[TR2]and stil remmeberAug 03 11:58
schestowitz[TR2]I remeber which part of the road the car was atAug 03 11:58
techuserbut it may be truthAug 03 11:58
matey<phanes> what the catholics need is a system of accountability within their own communities that doesn't involve a free pass <- i dont follow this at all, what?Aug 03 11:58
techuserI may fail to get a job regardless of what my parents tell to meAug 03 11:58
matey <techuser> but it may be truth <- if its coming from roy, its mostly going to be bullshit anywayAug 03 11:58
mateyhe talks a LOT of shitAug 03 11:58
DaemonFCCarlin talked about Catholics a lot.Aug 03 11:58
mateybecause it makes him feel goodAug 03 11:58
DaemonFCOne of his positions was that the Catholic church really sucks at balancing their checkbook.Aug 03 11:59
DaemonFCWhich just gets funnier every year you go back and watch him.Aug 03 11:59
mateyhe mostly lacks empathy and tries to prove he cares by saying fucked up things that make people feel worseAug 03 11:59
phanesmatey, generally my experience with catholics so far has been somewhat negative, and my opinion is that going to confession on the weekend is a poor alternative to people in the community holding people responsible for poor behaviour until the behaviour is correctedAug 03 11:59
schestowitz[TR2]matey: no I am a pessimeistAug 03 11:59
schestowitz[TR2]and make a motto to keep expectations lowAug 03 11:59
DaemonFCGermany has freedom of religion, but they banned Scientology.Aug 03 11:59
mateyphanes: but their concept of bad behaviour is pretty slanted about as many ways as it can beAug 03 11:59
schestowitz[TR2]it helps avoid disappointmentsAug 03 11:59
schestowitz[TR2]as the world gets cruelerAug 03 12:00
matey<schestowitz[TR2]> and make a motto to keep expectations low <- try not to talk any depressed readers off a ledge thoughAug 03 12:00
DaemonFCTheir position is that Scientology isn't a religion. Scientology was started by a Science Fiction author who said he would start a religion just to pay no taxes and take in a bunch of money.Aug 03 12:00
mateyif theyre already paranoid, im sorry theyre reading techrights in the first placeAug 03 12:00
phanesmatey, yeah, hard to do business with someone who routinely screws people over and doesn't think they're doing anything wrong.  hard to fix that, too.  the solution is people not doing business with that person instead of blaming catholics.Aug 03 12:00
mateythe solution is people not doing business with that person instead of blaming catholics. <- agreedAug 03 12:00
mateyi missed whoever blamed catholicsAug 03 12:01
DaemonFCThere's tapes of L. Ron Hubbard saying that on a radio interview a few years before Scientology.Aug 03 12:01
schestowitz[TR2]I don't view it that way at all, matey Aug 03 12:01
phanesmatey, i think DaemonFC was blaming catholics or serbs or maybe catholic serbs? :DAug 03 12:01
schestowitz[TR2]sometimes you need to put in context what puts people downAug 03 12:01
matey <schestowitz[TR2]> I don't view it that way at all, mate <- you just make shit up on a whimAug 03 12:01
mateytheres no continuityAug 03 12:01
mateyits pure convenience.Aug 03 12:01
schestowitz[TR2]and make it clear that they are not aloneAug 03 12:01
schestowitz[TR2]Gates-funded "media" tell people employment is "record low" is NOT helpingAug 03 12:01
matey<schestowitz[TR2]> and make it clear that they are not alone <- i dont think thats what youre doing, but hopefully it has that effectAug 03 12:01
schestowitz[TR2]it makes people feel guilt and feel inadequateAug 03 12:01
DaemonFCI don't mind immigrants but if they're going to complain about it while they have it good here, they should just leave.Aug 03 12:02
DaemonFCI'm sure they left where they came here from because life was going SO WELL for them over there.Aug 03 12:02
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XRevan86https://theins.press/en/news/253775Aug 03 12:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theins.press | Father of Moskva sailor received his son&#x27;s death certificate 110 days after his deathAug 03 12:02
schestowitz[TR2]atm ukraine is a market leader at recruiting cannon fodderAug 03 12:03
XRevan86https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/08/03/belgorod-region-authorities-to-close-schools-and-kindergartens-in-districts-bordering-with-ukraine-news "Belgorod region authorities to close schools and kindergartens in districts bordering with Ukraine"Aug 03 12:03
schestowitz[TR2]so much of it that they even import "workers" from all over the worldAug 03 12:03
DaemonFCThat would be Russia.Aug 03 12:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-novayagazeta.eu | Новая газета. ЕвропаAug 03 12:03
schestowitz[TR2]that tooAug 03 12:03
matey/me doesnt know why workers is in scarequotes but okAug 03 12:03
XRevan86https://themoscowtimes.com/2022/08/03/a78492Aug 03 12:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.themoscowtimes.com | Russia Backs Myanmar Junta's Efforts to 'Stabilize' Country – FM - The Moscow TimesAug 03 12:04
schestowitz[TR2]mmercenariesAug 03 12:04
mateyah, wellAug 03 12:04
DaemonFCMilitary dictatorships are famous for stabilizing their countries!Aug 03 12:04
DaemonFC:)Aug 03 12:04
mateythats fair enoughAug 03 12:04
schestowitz[TR2]mercenaries = arguably a "job"Aug 03 12:04
schestowitz[TR2]mot like state-=sanctions hitmenAug 03 12:04
mateyits definitely a jobAug 03 12:04
schestowitz[TR2]in the US many troops don't choose this jobAug 03 12:04
DaemonFCComplainers get shot.Aug 03 12:04
DaemonFCSurvivers get shot twice.Aug 03 12:05
mateybut yeah, if thats what you meant then scarequotes, sureAug 03 12:05
DaemonFC*survivorsAug 03 12:05
schestowitz[TR2]the system makes them discardable... and killing people is their only way to get college grant and MAYBE find a job afterwards... if they're not too depress and traumatised already Aug 03 12:05
XRevan86"mmercenaries" <- Did someone say PMC Wagner?Aug 03 12:05
schestowitz[TR2]*depressedAug 03 12:05
schestowitz[TR2]XFaCE: russiaAug 03 12:05
schestowitz[TR2]XRevan86: in africaAug 03 12:05
schestowitz[TR2]meduza keeps covering themAug 03 12:06
XRevan86schestowitz: Not just Africa.Aug 03 12:06
schestowitz[TR2]until some wagners  footsoldiers get deployed to rigaAug 03 12:06
DaemonFCI don't think we're likely to have a military coup in the US. If nobody did it for Trump, I doubt it would happen.Aug 03 12:06
DaemonFCHe tried. They said no.Aug 03 12:06
schestowitz[TR2]and deal with the "foreign agents" on foreign soilAug 03 12:06
schestowitz[TR2]DaemonFC:  coups rarely succeed the first timeAug 03 12:07
DaemonFCAt the rate things are going, I think most people would welcome military rule in the US.Aug 03 12:07
schestowitz[TR2]they learn from the firstAug 03 12:07
mateytechuser: a lot of things are true in a technical sense, but only brought up in a context to frame periperal bullshit as realisticAug 03 12:07
mateyin other words, every effective lie has a kernel of truthAug 03 12:07
mateybut its bullshit nonethelessAug 03 12:07
DaemonFCIt would be an end to the lawlessness that politicians like Pritzker allowed to unfold while he had the National Guard directing traffic during the riots.Aug 03 12:07
schestowitz[TR2]DaemonFC: better that than getting draftedAug 03 12:08
DaemonFCI'm strongly leaning towards voting for the Libertarian Party this year and if Pritzker loses, he loses.Aug 03 12:08
techrights-newsRed Hat, Red Hat, Red Hat, Red Hat... ☛ https://opensource.com/article/22/8/network-configuration-files | Source: OpenSource.comAug 03 12:09
DaemonFCI don't see how we'd be a whole lot worse off with Darren Bailey (the Republican). Pritzker has my taxes going up, up, up by the minute on top of all of the inflation.Aug 03 12:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A sysadmin's guide to network interface configuration files | Opensource.comAug 03 12:09
techrights-news"The default Proxmox local storage location is /var/liz/vz." ☛ https://ostechnix.com/add-external-usb-storage-to-proxmox/ | Source: OSTechNixAug 03 12:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How To Add External USB Storage To Proxmox - OSTechNixAug 03 12:09
matey/me tries to think of the name of the lady masons, but only comes up with "order of the phoenix" :)Aug 03 12:10
matey(im pretty confident its not that)Aug 03 12:10
DaemonFCThis fucking state hasn't ever done anything for me except have its jackbooted thugs come after me a couple of years ago.Aug 03 12:11
psydruid"Shoot them at first sight"Aug 03 12:11
DaemonFCThe left says the Constitution doesn't guarantee the right to have weapons because the public isn't a "militia". However, federal law defines the "unorganized militia" as being "all men between 17 and 45".Aug 03 12:12
DaemonFCSo it follows that either the law establishing the National Guard is unconstitutional, or at least men between 17 and 45 have a Constitutional right to have weapons.Aug 03 12:13
mateyi guess there are several http://www.freemasons-freemasonry.com/orders_women_freemasonry.htmlAug 03 12:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.freemasons-freemasonry.com | Masonic Orders for WomenAug 03 12:14
mateythe one im thinking of has a white star, or the centre is white, but each of the tips is a different colourAug 03 12:14
DaemonFCWisconsin law on the use of force says you can do it to protect property from vandalism or theft, or yourself if you're in danger. No duty to flee.Aug 03 12:14
DaemonFCSo Kyle Rittenhouse didn't do anything illegal.Aug 03 12:14
DaemonFCIt's amazing how the left immediately sides with a group of rioters trying to burn down his friend's business.Aug 03 12:15
DaemonFCIncluding one that was there attacking him and trying to grab his gun. He had every right to shoot Gage Grosskreutz and frankly, it's unfortunately that guy even survived.Aug 03 12:16
DaemonFCHe's a creep and he's been arrested numerous times for domestic battery and drunk driving.Aug 03 12:16
mateyi think its the order of the eastern starAug 03 12:16
DaemonFC*unfortunateAug 03 12:16
mateyeastern star != phoenixAug 03 12:16
DaemonFCProbably the only thing Grosskreutz will ever do is cost the state money.Aug 03 12:17
DaemonFCHe's beaten so many women and been pulled over for DUI so many times the fucker is probably Irish or something.Aug 03 12:17
techrights-news"If you, for one reason or the other, are still actively using CentOS 8" ☛ https://www.tecmint.com/error-failed-to-download-metadata-for-repo-appstream/ | Source: TecMintAug 03 12:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tecmint.com | Fix Error: Failed to Download Metadata for Repo 'AppStream'Aug 03 12:18
DaemonFCI know, it's German, but you can pick up a surname anywhere.Aug 03 12:18
techrights-news"Linux Mint 21 code-named “Vanessa” is the latest version of the popular Linux Mint desktop operating system that is available in three versions" ☛ https://www.tecmint.com/install-linux-mint-cinnamon/ | Source: TecMintAug 03 12:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tecmint.com | Installation of Linux Mint 21 [Cinnamon Edition] DesktopAug 03 12:18
mateyThis order, which has it origins in Scotland, dates back some 200 years. The ritual is based on the lives of five Biblical heroines. Three come from the Old Testament, Adah - the daughter, Ruth - the widow, and Esther -- the wife, and two from the New Testament, Martha"- the sister, and Electa - the mother.Aug 03 12:18
techrights-news"Linux Mint is one of the fastest-growing desktop Linux distributions today." ☛ https://www.tecmint.com/install-linux-mint-debian-edition/ | Source: TecMintAug 03 12:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tecmint.com | How to Install LMDE 5 “Elsie” Cinnamon EditionAug 03 12:18
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techrights-news"The Inflation Reduction Act of 2022 will knock out less than 10 percent of US climate pollution by 2030" ☛ https://www.thenation.com/article/environment/manchin-schumer-inflation-deal/ | Source: The NationAug 03 12:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenation.com | The Manchin-Schumer Deal Could Pay Off—if Congress Acts | The NationAug 03 12:19
DaemonFChttps://yewtu.be/watch?v=7W8FzY3PaXUAug 03 12:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Gaige Grosskreutz chair breaks during Zoom court, Kyle Rittenhouse can't help but laugh at him - InvidiousAug 03 12:21
schestowitz[TR2]"Web-based" 'tribunalsAug 03 12:22
DaemonFChttps://yewtu.be/watch?v=xQ_DyMubA5UAug 03 12:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Police Bodycam Footage of Gaige Grosskreutz being arrested for DUI on 10/6/2020. - InvidiousAug 03 12:22
techrights-newsGames: SteamOS 3.3, New Records for GNU/Linux Usage, and More • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167951Aug 03 12:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: SteamOS 3.3, New Records for GNU/Linux Usage, and More | Tux MachinesAug 03 12:23
DaemonFC<schestowitz[TR2]> "Web-based" 'tribunalsAug 03 12:23
DaemonFCYeah, I had one over the ticket for "running a traffic light", but the ticket got thrown out.Aug 03 12:23
techrights-newsBest Free and Open Source Alternatives to Apple Calendar • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167952Aug 03 12:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Apple Calendar | Tux MachinesAug 03 12:23
techrights-newsFedora 37 Beta Wallpaper Update • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167953Aug 03 12:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora 37 Beta Wallpaper Update | Tux MachinesAug 03 12:24
DaemonFCMy argument would have been that I didn't break the law since right turns have priority and the police cited me under the wrong statute.Aug 03 12:24
DaemonFCIt didn't make it that far.Aug 03 12:24
DaemonFCMy accusers don't show up for court when it's their court date.Aug 03 12:25
DaemonFCSo I demanded a trial and figured they wouldn't show up, and I was right.Aug 03 12:25
schestowitz[TR2]maybe they value their time more than you do ;-)Aug 03 12:26
techrights-news"Defaming journalism on the OPCW’s Syria cover-up scandal" ☛ https://scheerpost.com/2022/08/02/nato-backed-network-of-syria-dirty-war-propagandists-identified/ | Source: ScheerpostAug 03 12:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-NATO-Backed Network of Syria Dirty War Propagandists Identified – scheerpost.comAug 03 12:27
techrights-news"On July 13, Nicolas Niarchos, a journalist on assignment for The Nation, along with his colleague and translator Joseph “Jeef” Kazadi, were extrajudicially detained in Lubumbashi" ☛ https://www.thenation.com/article/world/joseph-jeef-kazadi-congo/ | Source: The NationAug 03 12:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenation.com | Free Jeef Kazadi! | The NationAug 03 12:28
DaemonFC<schestowitz[TR2]> maybe they value their time more than you do ;-)Aug 03 12:30
DaemonFCSmoking marijuana, masturbating, and eating cheetos probably from the looks of them.Aug 03 12:30
DaemonFCAnyway, as far as the cops, they can look at their little cop computer and see if you went to court and fought your last ticket or not and what the outcome was.Aug 03 12:31
DaemonFCIf they see "This person doesn't fight their tickets." what do you think happens next time they run your license plates?Aug 03 12:31
DaemonFCschestowitz[TR2], I noticed a pattern in the court computer.Aug 03 12:34
DaemonFCPeople who just pay the ticket end up getting a string of them.Aug 03 12:34
DaemonFCThe cops probably pull them over and see they just pay the ticket, and that probably tilts the scale in deciding whether they write another one.Aug 03 12:39
DaemonFCIf you pull over a person who fights them, you might be leaning towards letting them go. The whole point of ticketing drivers is to make as much money as possible when it's time for court.Aug 03 12:39
DaemonFCIdeally you ticket people who don't even go to court.Aug 03 12:39
DaemonFCIf you get a string of them that go to court and take up 20-30 minutes insisting on a trial, it throws sand in the gears. So you get ones that don't go to court, or who quickly plead guilty in exchange for something.Aug 03 12:40
DaemonFCThe ones that say "negotiate guilty plea for court supervision" are the next best thing to not fighting the ticket.Aug 03 12:41
DaemonFCThe ones where they went to trial and got a ruling from the judge in the end are the 5% of the cases that take up 99% of your time.Aug 03 12:42
DaemonFCI don't think the concept is that different from getting knocked down by the bully at school.Aug 03 12:42
DaemonFCWhether you win or lose, you have to fight back. If you don't, you'll get it so much worse next time.Aug 03 12:43
DaemonFCThe bullies want to go to the people who don't make a problem for them.Aug 03 12:43
DaemonFCThe court acts like it has all the time in the world to deal with you, but in reality it does not.Aug 03 12:44
DaemonFCThere's only so many minutes the prosecutor wants to stand there and risk per person.Aug 03 12:44
DaemonFCHe'll come way down the longer you keep going.Aug 03 12:44
phanes^ this Aug 03 12:45
DaemonFCThere's probably 70-80 people that have court that day, and I see the prosecutor act tough in the beginning and then after 10 minutes have gone by and you're still forcing the court to deal with you, he comes down like 90% vs what the demands were if you'll just stop and take the offer then.Aug 03 12:45
phanesfight every single ticketAug 03 12:45
phaneswhen i was younger in virginia i would just say "im too busy for this, just pay it and move on" and that was a horrible ideaAug 03 12:46
phanesthey will just write tickets until you dont have a license anymoreAug 03 12:46
DaemonFCYeah, then you got the same cop pulling you over again and again, right?Aug 03 12:46
phanesyepAug 03 12:46
DaemonFCYou were their favorite customer.Aug 03 12:46
phanesso eventually i started hiring lawyers to aggressively fight every ticket and started filing formal complaints if there wasn't a good reason to pull me overAug 03 12:47
phanesgot shook down a few times by buddy copsAug 03 12:47
phanesthen started filing on thoseAug 03 12:47
phanesnow i get "yes sir, thank you sir"Aug 03 12:47
phanesit's also mortally irresponsible to not have cameras rolling in your carAug 03 12:48
phanesthe police are not your friends and they don't have public interest in mindAug 03 12:49
phanesand if you grow up believing that they're your friends or that they play some critical part in society it's hard to shake it Aug 03 12:49
DaemonFCBetter to just avoid them.Aug 03 12:50
DaemonFCThe only reason I couldn't is because I knew I had to call them.Aug 03 12:50
phanesthey get super pissed if you do too lolAug 03 12:50
DaemonFCIf I had just done what that other driver wanted and gone on about our business, then they could have reported me as a hit and run.Aug 03 12:50
phaneswhen i get pulled over i roll the window about halfway down and just provide my license and insurance papers and tell them i dont answer questionsAug 03 12:51
DaemonFCYou have an accident, you call the police immediately.Aug 03 12:51
DaemonFCIt sucks, but.... The alternative may be a criminal charge.Aug 03 12:51
DaemonFCHaving an accident isn't a crime. The worst they'll get you on is a moving violation.Aug 03 12:51
DaemonFCBut if you leave, then it becomes a he said, she said, and they're saying you hit them and fled.Aug 03 12:52
phanesyeahAug 03 12:52
phanesanother reason why it's irresponsible not to have a camera in your vehicleAug 03 12:52
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DaemonFCLesson 2 (after the cops just want money): The cops will always believe what the trash in the other car are saying about you.Aug 03 12:53
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DaemonFCYou'd think that sometimes the cops would believe you, but they just never do.Aug 03 12:53
DaemonFCThe other guy could be a John Wayne Gacy and the cops will still believe him.Aug 03 12:54
phanesmy pickup got hit by a water truck when i was 19 in southeast texasAug 03 12:54
phanesdude ran a redlight and was apparently drunkAug 03 12:54
phanesgood ole boy in uniform shows up to take the report, my vehicle is totalledAug 03 12:54
phanesi know exactly what you mean because they put me down at fault and i didn't know to fight itAug 03 12:55
DaemonFCWell, the interesting thing is I have an at-fault accident from that even though I got the ticket thrown out, but nobody in the other car ever bothered to file a claim on my car insurance.Aug 03 12:55
DaemonFCSo CLUE closed it out as a $0 claim and it didn't affect my car insurance.Aug 03 12:56
DaemonFCOne of them was hamming it up and had fire and rescue take him to the hospital in a neck brace over a 3 mph fender bender.Aug 03 12:57
phaneslolAug 03 12:57
DaemonFCThat was the parolee out on child molestation and prison riot.Aug 03 12:57
DaemonFC:)Aug 03 12:57
phaneswas probably thinking he could score some meds at the ER to sellAug 03 12:57
DaemonFCI called his parole officer up in Wisconsin and told her he was in Illinois that day and handed her the accident report where the cops put his name on it as the passenger.Aug 03 12:57
DaemonFC;)Aug 03 12:58
phaneslolAug 03 12:58
DaemonFCParole means you can't leave the state you're on parole in without a day pass.Aug 03 12:59
DaemonFCSo he was a little busy when my court date came around.Aug 03 12:59
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phanesthe funny thing with cops is they use every reason they can to fuck you over using your own words and then will still get visible enraged if you refuse to answer their questionsAug 03 12:59
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phanes*visiblyAug 03 12:59
phanesits likeAug 03 13:00
DaemonFCphanes, What's funny is the guy goes to duck his parole and he updates Facebook saying he lives in Mississippi.Aug 03 13:00
phanes"you conditioned us to be like this by abusing this process"Aug 03 13:00
DaemonFC"Oh they'll never check Facebook!"Aug 03 13:00
techrights-newsGoogle #Android Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167954Aug 03 13:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesAug 03 13:01
DaemonFC<phanes> the funny thing with cops is they use every reason they can to fuck you over using your own words and then will still get visible enraged if you refuse to answer their questionsAug 03 13:01
DaemonFCIt's all a ploy.Aug 03 13:01
DaemonFCThey know most people are social and will be thrown off balance by someone else being upset with them.Aug 03 13:01
DaemonFCEspecially someone intimidating, like a cop.Aug 03 13:01
DaemonFCThe cop isn't actually upset with you, he's just play acting like he is to get a response. Because nothing he's done prior to that has worked.Aug 03 13:02
DaemonFCIf that doesn't work, he'll start being nice.Aug 03 13:02
DaemonFCThey'll throw you in a cell for 4-5 hours while they "Go do some paperwork." and then they'll come back and "just try to level with you and hear you out".Aug 03 13:03
phanesmy favorite pull over story is when i get pulled over when a light turned red while i was going through it, a cop walks up to the car on each side and they're both trying to talk to me at the same time out each window, one at driver side asks for my license and insurance, so i go glove compartment to get it, and the one on the passenger side pulls out his firearm and starts screaming for me to pull out my driver's license nowAug 03 13:03
phanesso i just stop calmly, put hands on the wheel and say "which one of you am I dealing with"Aug 03 13:03
DaemonFCThere's no good reason to leave you in a cell overnight except that it makes you tires and start to lose track of time.Aug 03 13:03
phanesone on driver's side says "me"Aug 03 13:03
DaemonFCYou don't like being in there, and they know it.Aug 03 13:03
DaemonFC*tiredAug 03 13:03
phanesso i say "ok im rolling the window up on your aggressive asshole partner" and he's screaming while I roll the window upAug 03 13:04
DaemonFCIf you end up in a cell, the best thing to remember is that the reason the booking process is taking so long is because it's part of an act.Aug 03 13:04
phanesand i just sit there and wait after telling the one at the driver side that im not doing anything until his partner puts his gun away and gets back in his vehicleAug 03 13:05
DaemonFCThey haven't forgotten about you. They know what you're doing in there because of the camera. If you start fidgeting or pacing around, then they're going to be emboldened by it.Aug 03 13:05
DaemonFCIt's best to lay down for a while and face the wall and pretend to sleep.Aug 03 13:05
phanesthe crazy part is it actually workedAug 03 13:05
DaemonFCPretend like nothing is bothering you.Aug 03 13:05
DaemonFC<phanes> the crazy part is it actually workedAug 03 13:07
DaemonFCCareful about reaching for anything.Aug 03 13:07
phanesyeah pretty muchAug 03 13:07
DaemonFCAnything at all, even the window button.Aug 03 13:07
phanesim always looking at where their hands areAug 03 13:07
schestowitz[TR2]cops love to compensate for the job being not so rewarding and honourable by bullying people and making a case they can get away with doing illegal things, then face no conseuqncesAug 03 13:07
phanesas soon as a cop puts their hand on their weapon i just i go right into "handle" modeAug 03 13:07
schestowitz[TR2]that's their sense of power and entitlem,entAug 03 13:07
schestowitz[TR2]qualified immunity or whateverAug 03 13:08
schestowitz[TR2]best thing therefore,Aug 03 13:08
schestowitz[TR2]avoid themAug 03 13:08
schestowitz[TR2]they're looking for a fight, many of them doAug 03 13:08
phanesmy favorite is "thank you for not killing anyone during this routine traffic stop sir"Aug 03 13:08
DaemonFCOne of them patted me down and missed a can of pepper spray.Aug 03 13:08
DaemonFCI told him that he missed a can of pepper spray and to please come take it from me so that they couldn't accuse me of entering their jail with a weapon later.Aug 03 13:08
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DaemonFCThere are no laws if it's a cop, basically.Aug 03 13:10
DaemonFCLess than 0.3% of them that do something illegal ever get charged with a crime for it.Aug 03 13:10
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DaemonFCAnd less than half of them get convicted.Aug 03 13:10
DaemonFCThose are national statistics.Aug 03 13:11
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DaemonFCIn many states, 0% of them ever get investigated, or it's a pretend investigation that never leads to any charges.Aug 03 13:11
DaemonFCThe Georgia Bureau of investigation takes their gun and puts them on a desk for a couple weeks, with pay, then hands them their gun back.Aug 03 13:12
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DaemonFCschestowitz[TR2], I really wish that the state would start issuing "travel advisories" about visiting other states.Aug 03 13:13
DaemonFCI mean, pretty much everyone knows not to even go to those southern states where the cops can do anything they want, but there's no official warning about it.Aug 03 13:14
DaemonFCBody cameras aren't the law down there because they don't want to know what the police do.Aug 03 13:14
DaemonFCSo they can beat people up and kill them and there's no record of what happened.Aug 03 13:15
DaemonFCFox News was talking about cops in Illinois fleeing for Texas.Aug 03 13:16
DaemonFCYou know which ones we're probably losing to Texas.Aug 03 13:16
DaemonFCThe ones who are afraid that they'll get busted for wrongdoing up here, that know Texas won't do shit about them.Aug 03 13:16
techrights-newsLinks 03/08/2022: SteamOS 3.3, GNU/Linux Hits New Highs in Steam | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/08/03/steamos-3-3/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/08/03/steamos-3-3/Aug 03 13:17
DaemonFCIt's like self-selection. The ones that know they're up to criminal activity against the public go to where they'll get away with it.Aug 03 13:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 03/08/2022: SteamOS 3.3, GNU/Linux Hits New Highs in Steam | TechrightsAug 03 13:17
techrights-newsToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167955Aug 03 13:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesAug 03 13:18
techrights-newsToday’s 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167956Aug 03 13:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesAug 03 13:18
techrights-newsAn Early Look at Fedora Linux 37 on Raspberry Pi 4 • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167957Aug 03 13:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | An Early Look at Fedora Linux 37 on Raspberry Pi 4 | Tux MachinesAug 03 13:18
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phanesoh my, twitter is going nuclear on musk's network with subpeonas Aug 03 13:25
schestowitz[TR2]url?Aug 03 13:25
phanesschestowitz[TR2], https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2022/08/twitter-went-into-ludicrous-mode-in-elon-musk-suit.html?utm_source=fb&utm_medium=s1&utm_campaign=nym&fbclid=IwAR0_47fi53dZHmmuoZlbPX1Jy2tX7hkq_7IcHwzMugC7b6FyiaIYj4aB_uUAug 03 13:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nymag.com | Twitter Went Into Ludicrous Mode in Elon Musk SuitAug 03 13:25
schestowitz[TR2]twitter need to die, I hope he kills itAug 03 13:25
schestowitz[TR2]even though he's a fraudAug 03 13:25
schestowitz[TR2]they both need to dieAug 03 13:25
phanesof course he's a fraudAug 03 13:25
schestowitz[TR2]twitter is alsoa  fraudAug 03 13:26
schestowitz[TR2]fraudwarsxAug 03 13:26
*schestowitz[TR2] popcornAug 03 13:26
schestowitz[TR2]http://techrights.org/2022/07/28/gradual-death-of-twitter/Aug 03 13:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Twitter is Dying, Based on Its Own Numbers (Which It Can Barely Fake Anymore, for Fear of Getting Caught by Elon Musk and His Lawyers) | TechrightsAug 03 13:26
phanesi have to admit if he had bought twitter it would have won brownie points in my bookAug 03 13:26
schestowitz[TR2]http://techrights.org/2022/05/14/fake-importance-of-twitter/Aug 03 13:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Elon Musk is Right About Twitter Faking Its Importance and Using Doctored, Manipulated ‘Stats’ (or Bots) to Boost Valuation Based on Lies | TechrightsAug 03 13:26
schestowitz[TR2]I have no stake in twitterAug 03 13:27
schestowitz[TR2]not financial, noit anythingAug 03 13:27
schestowitz[TR2]they ned toi dieAug 03 13:27
schestowitz[TR2]and leave society alonerAug 03 13:27
schestowitz[TR2]*aloneAug 03 13:27
phanesvery little happens there beyond defamation and complainingAug 03 13:27
schestowitz[TR2]there will be many unemployed "social media consultantsAug 03 13:28
schestowitz[TR2]FB also losesAug 03 13:28
schestowitz[TR2]people leave FB and FBInstagram in drovesAug 03 13:28
phanesoh facebook needs a fight club endingAug 03 13:28
schestowitz[TR2]they used to hide and mask and conceal itAug 03 13:28
schestowitz[TR2]but they can no longer do thisAug 03 13:28
schestowitz[TR2]twitter increased polarityAug 03 13:28
schestowitz[TR2]round 2016... to drive up "engagement';Aug 03 13:28
schestowitz[TR2]irrespective of how thet f*cked up society, by designAug 03 13:28
phanesHow facebook should end: https://youtu.be/aPRRgGOqtrMAug 03 13:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://invidious.namazso.eu/watch?v=aPRRgGOqtrMAug 03 13:29
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schestowitz[TR2]censored in chinaAug 03 13:30
techrights-newsWindows market share in Canadian desktops and laptops down to 6%. GNU/Linux at 7%. https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/canada/#monthly-200901-202208Aug 03 13:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gs.statcounter.com | Desktop Operating System Market Share Canada | Statcounter Global StatsAug 03 13:33
schestowitz[TR2]https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/taiwan/#monthly-200901-202208Aug 03 13:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gs.statcounter.com | Desktop Operating System Market Share Taiwan | Statcounter Global StatsAug 03 13:35
schestowitz[TR2]3.8% GNU/LinuxAug 03 13:35
DaemonFCMr. GULAG posts a lot of twats to Shitter.Aug 03 13:39
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schestowitz[TR2]promoting gnu/linux obv. ^_^Aug 03 13:44
*phanes bemuses the idea of a twitter clone called shitterAug 03 13:51
phanes"Shitter's full!"Aug 03 13:51
phanes^ when something goes viralAug 03 13:51
phanesMr. Gulag should consider his contributions to society, and delete his twitter account after apologizing to all the people he harmed with his false words on shitter.Aug 03 13:52
phanesBy all appearances he should probably encourage his fiance to do the same, apparently.Aug 03 13:53
phanesfrankly i blame the public education system, but his parents bear some of the blame as wellAug 03 13:54
matey<phanes> Mr. Gulag should consider his contributions to society, and delete his twitter account after apologizing to all the people he harmed with his false words on shitter. <- we both know it wont happenAug 03 13:57
mateyall the people he harmed  <- that would include every gnu/linux user from about a decade ago through the futureAug 03 13:58
mateybut also s/gnu\/linux/free software/ if s/decade/few years/Aug 03 13:59
mateythe easiest way to fuck over that many people is if you dont care, cant care and never will care.Aug 03 14:00
schestowitz[TR2]http://techrights.org/2022/08/01/headhunting-matthew-garrett/Aug 03 14:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft is Trying to Hire (Read: Pay Salaries to) Matthew Garrett | TechrightsAug 03 14:02
techrights-newsOne Can Speculate Why Windows-Friendly OEMs Start Enforcing Windows-Only Boot on Laptops (Microsoft Blocking BSD and GNU/Linux With UEFI) | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/08/03/finland-2022-share-os/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/08/03/finland-2022-share-os/Aug 03 14:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | One Can Speculate Why Windows-Friendly OEMs Start Enforcing Windows-Only Boot on Laptops (Microsoft Blocking BSD and GNU/Linux With UEFI) | TechrightsAug 03 14:02
schestowitz[TR2]when he defames me in twitter he gets "likes" from MicrosoftAug 03 14:02
schestowitz[TR2]so we know whose benefit he's forAug 03 14:03
schestowitz[TR2]2012: criticising  Microsoft is kicking puppiesAug 03 14:03
schestowitz[TR2]2022: criticising  Microsoft is promoting rapeAug 03 14:03
schestowitz[TR2]btw, a couple of years ago tso spoke out against exFAT in LinuxAug 03 14:04
schestowitz[TR2]but who csares, right?Aug 03 14:04
schestowitz[TR2]*fing rape apologist"Aug 03 14:04
mateyhttps://www.theregister.com/2022/07/07/lennart_poettering_red_hat_microsoft/Aug 03 14:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Lennart Poettering leaves Red Hat for Microsoft • The RegisterAug 03 14:04
mateyNOW its obvious.Aug 03 14:04
schestowitz[TR2]one day you rape womenAug 03 14:05
schestowitz[TR2]the next day you start saying monopolies are badAug 03 14:05
mateychrist. a double root canal was easierAug 03 14:05
techrights-newsmicrosoft loves Linux traitors http://techrights.org/2020/09/30/war-crimes-and-bribes/Aug 03 14:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | War Crimes and Bribes | TechrightsAug 03 14:06
techrights-newsAntitrust investigations are not likely while Microsoft pays its competitors to stop competing and instead start helping Microsoft http://techrights.org/2022/08/02/bribing-gnome/Aug 03 14:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Bribing the Competition (to Get Something in Return) | TechrightsAug 03 14:07
mateyin fairness to lennart, he probably had no choiceAug 03 14:07
mateywhat he did to gnu/linux probably violated like a million windows patentsAug 03 14:07
mateyit was join them or get beaten by themAug 03 14:07
techrights-news'bashing' Microsoft is like rape because... oh, never mind http://techrights.org/2022/06/09/another-theranos-moment/Aug 03 14:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft, EPO Awards, and Sexual Abuse (Theranos All Over Again) | TechrightsAug 03 14:08
mateywhat he did to gnu/linux probably violated like a million windows patents <- including their patents on writing software that is actually itself a douchebagAug 03 14:08
mateybecause lennart may be one, but systemd makes twoAug 03 14:08
schestowitz[TR2]systemd itself is patentedAug 03 14:09
schestowitz[TR2]software patentsAug 03 14:09
mateysystemd-clippydAug 03 14:09
mateyhi, it looks like youre trying to shut down the computer. can i help?Aug 03 14:09
mateythe reason systemd sometimes refuses to shut down is a placeholder for when clippy shows upAug 03 14:09
techrights-newsIf you don't love criminal corporations (or work for one), that makes you a criminal? Projection much, Mr. Perkins?Aug 03 14:10
matey[x] do you have open files?Aug 03 14:10
matey[x] do you have open applications?Aug 03 14:10
schestowitz[TR2]that's syetems-shutdowndAug 03 14:10
schestowitz[TR2]where you might wait half an hour to rebootAug 03 14:10
schestowitz[TR2]because... who the heck knows whyAug 03 14:10
matey[x] are you trying to escape systemd-mandatoryupdated ?Aug 03 14:10
schestowitz[TR2]report a bugAug 03 14:10
schestowitz[TR2]open a Microsoft accountAug 03 14:10
schestowitz[TR2]and comply with CoCAug 03 14:10
schestowitz[TR2]systemd-hugdAug 03 14:11
mateyreporting bugs in microsoft products violates the cocAug 03 14:11
mateyas a result, microsoft products have no bugsAug 03 14:11
schestowitz[TR2]obviously a referece to fsckAug 03 14:11
schestowitz[TR2]intel paid people salaries to put the word "hug" in Linux commentsAug 03 14:11
schestowitz[TR2]such a aMASSIVE contributionAug 03 14:11
schestowitz[TR2]many hundreds of lines oif "code"Aug 03 14:11
schestowitz[TR2]like sagew code, full of bugs (usb)Aug 03 14:11
schestowitz[TR2]*sage (sharp)Aug 03 14:12
mateyintel paid people salaries to put the word "hug" in Linux comments <- they can definitely go hug themselvesAug 03 14:12
mateythey can hug off up a tree while theyre at itAug 03 14:12
schestowitz[TR2]in github youm cannot suggest micreosoft does something bad:Aug 03 14:12
schestowitz[TR2]http://techrights.org/2021/11/22/microsofts-github-is-hugely-toxic-and-it-censors-critics-of-corporations-or-people-sceptical-of-those-in-power/Aug 03 14:13
schestowitz[TR2]suspendedAug 03 14:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft’s GitHub is Hugely Toxic and It Censors Critics of Corporations or People Sceptical of Those in Power | TechrightsAug 03 14:13
schestowitz[TR2]for saying Microsoft is not nice to LinusAug 03 14:13
schestowitz[TR2]STALIN.ioAug 03 14:13
schestowitz[TR2]*LinuxAug 03 14:13
mateystalinuxAug 03 14:13
schestowitz[TR2]STALIN.github.ioAug 03 14:13
mateyor if its running systemd, pgnutin/stalinuxAug 03 14:14
techrights-newsNow they're making it NORMAL to NOT properly test vaccines, just rush them to market to bail out failing corporations with loads of patents ☛ https://www.democracynow.org/2022/8/2/monkeypox_public_health_emergency_vaccine_new | Source: Democracy NowAug 03 14:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.democracynow.org | “The Viral Underclass”: Steven Thrasher on Monkeypox, Biden Failures & How Class Impacts Viral Spread | Democracy Now!Aug 03 14:14
mateyunlike the g in gnu, the gn in pgnutin is silentAug 03 14:14
mateyit was forced into silence by 3000 bodies signing a pettytionAug 03 14:15
mateyphanes: "pettytion"Aug 03 14:15
mateyyoure welcomeAug 03 14:15
matey/me had some help from one of roys typosAug 03 14:15
ulfsh***... arm-tcc assembler cannot digest the ASM contained within musl-libcAug 03 14:16
Ariadnemalware being spread and microsoft github does nothing to deal with it https://twitter.com/stephenlacy/status/1554697077430505473Aug 03 14:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@stephenlacy: I am uncovering what seems to be a massive widespread malware attack on @github. - Currently over 35k repositories… https://t.co/rUKIIULV4VAug 03 14:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@stephenlacy: I am uncovering what seems to be a massive widespread malware attack on @github. - Currently over 35k repositories… https://t.co/rUKIIULV4VAug 03 14:16
mateymalware being spread and microsoft github does nothing to deal with it https://github.com/systemd/systemdAug 03 14:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - systemd/systemd: The systemd System and Service ManagerAug 03 14:16
techrights-news2020-2022: Plutocratic regimes bailing out BILLIONAIRE corporations (real money, borrowing from taxpayers) while giving not a dime to the homeless, just prepaid (also at expense of taxpayers) jobs and boosters (overpriced by a factor of 100 due to patents that enrich these aforementioned corporations)Aug 03 14:16
mateytbh i might side with them NOT doing anything thoughAug 03 14:17
mateyif you look at the history of microsofts efforts to curb malwareAug 03 14:17
mateyregime change starts at home, and its not even a twinkle in their eyeAug 03 14:17
schestowitz[TR2]Ariadne: github is argulably malware tooAug 03 14:17
mateygithub is argulably malware too <- thisAug 03 14:18
mateyworse than windowsAug 03 14:18
mateyif thats possibleAug 03 14:18
schestowitz[TR2]http://techrights.org/2022/04/09/microsoft-github-is-censorship/\Aug 03 14:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ http://techrights.org/2022/04/09/microsoft-github-is-censorship/\ )Aug 03 14:18
schestowitz[TR2]http://techrights.org/2022/04/09/microsoft-github-is-censorship/Aug 03 14:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft GitHub the King of DMCA Censorship (Removing Free Software) | TechrightsAug 03 14:18
schestowitz[TR2]github [n.]: widely spreasd malware that infects and destroys (kills) legit software projectsAug 03 14:18
mateyputin: id like to invade a country purely for profit, and i dont give two shits what the world thinks about itAug 03 14:19
schestowitz[TR2]no ransomwareAug 03 14:19
schestowitz[TR2]it just deletes all your filesAug 03 14:19
mateyusa: youre infringing on our war patentsAug 03 14:19
schestowitz[TR2]very vicious malwareAug 03 14:19
schestowitz[TR2]doesn't want moneyAug 03 14:19
schestowitz[TR2]only wants you deadAug 03 14:19
mateyputin: i have prior artAug 03 14:19
mateyusa: no you dont, we have iraq and vietnamAug 03 14:19
schestowitz[TR2]that's both racistAug 03 14:20
schestowitz[TR2]and grape statistics... nice grapesAug 03 14:20
matey/me is racist against red wineAug 03 14:20
matey <schestowitz[TR2]> and grape statistics... nice grapes <- youre a grape apologistAug 03 14:20
techrights-news"In July, the Putin administration distributed two new messaging guides to Russia's pro-government media outlets and politicians." ☛ https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/08/02/compassion-tolerance-and-love-for-others | Source: MeduzaAug 03 14:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLEAug 03 14:21
mateyi would say i think some marathons are more important than othersAug 03 14:22
mateybut THATS racistAug 03 14:22
techrights-news"akin to Windows malware" ☛ https://krebsonsecurity.com/2022/08/no-socks-no-shoes-no-malware-proxy-services/ | Source: Krebs On SecurityAug 03 14:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-krebsonsecurity.com | No SOCKS, No Shoes, No Malware Proxy Services! – Krebs on SecurityAug 03 14:23
techrights-newsMany articles about security conspicuously leave out mentions of "Microsoft" and Windows" This is intentional. CISA is the same, covering up for the back doors company.Aug 03 14:24
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techrights-newsBright House ☛ https://torrentfreak.com/music-companies-and-isp-settle-piracy-lawsuit-one-day-before-trial-220802/ | Source: Torrent FreakAug 03 14:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Major Record Labels and ISP Settle Piracy Lawsuit One Day Before Trial * TorrentFreakAug 03 14:32
techrights-newsNintendo uses Microsoft (Github) to attack Free software that Nintendo doesn't like. Microsoft hates Free software, so you can guess the outcome. ☛ https://torrentfreak.com/why-nintendo-uses-the-dmca-to-take-down-piracy-enabling-sigpatches-220802/ see http://techrights.org/2022/04/09/microsoft-github-is-censorship/Aug 03 14:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why Nintendo Uses the DMCA to Take Down Piracy-Enabling SigPatches * TorrentFreakAug 03 14:34
matey"If you get through all of that, there will just be more vulnerabilities next month. They’re endless."Aug 03 14:34
matey"attack surface"Aug 03 14:34
techrights-newsGitHub is NOT "free hosting", it's a business risk or a risk to one's project. Wait till the MAFIAA targets curl for enabling "piracy" http://techrights.org/2022/07/22/github-network-effect-curl/Aug 03 14:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft: Stay in Our Proprietary Prison (GitHub) and Attract Other People to This Prison, We’ll Give You ‘Gifts’ | TechrightsAug 03 14:35
mateyi was surprised roy said "fuckery" but then i was like "oh right, guest article"Aug 03 14:35
schestowitz[TR2]matey: surface is a Microsoft trademarkAug 03 14:35
schestowitz[TR2]don't attack their trademarksAug 03 14:35
techrights-newsElizabeth Holmes ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/08/03/the-hollow-promise-of-small-modular-nuclear-reactors/ | http://techrights.org/2018/05/04/theranos-epo-fraud/Aug 03 14:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Hollow Promise of Small Modular Nuclear Reactors - CounterPunch.orgAug 03 14:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Elizabeth Holmes Charged With “Massive Fraud” and Team Battistelli Rushes to Distance Itself From Her | TechrightsAug 03 14:37
mateythey can hug themselves with their trademarksAug 03 14:38
matey""When you want to maximize profits, it’s always easier to dump something in the customer’s lap that only barely works and to actually take care of it as little as you can get by with. "Aug 03 14:38
mateythey can hug their mothers tooAug 03 14:38
matey"That’s been the way Microsoft and Intel have gotten things done for decades, and it’s not getting any better."Aug 03 14:39
matey"Pretty much the only programmers that try to defend the notion proprietary software and slander FOSS are the ones cashing paychecks building proprietary software that does unethical things to the users."Aug 03 14:39
schestowitz[TR2]usualyl trueAug 03 14:40
schestowitz[TR2]otherwise they get sakcedAug 03 14:40
schestowitz[TR2]their bosses don't care for FSAug 03 14:41
schestowitz[TR2]they use very nastry thingsAug 03 14:41
schestowitz[TR2]not just proprietaryAug 03 14:41
schestowitz[TR2]but spytechAug 03 14:41
techrights-news"Then terrorism became the fixation, the magic slate that allows everything else to be erased." ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/08/03/oligarchs-unite-now/ | Source: Counter PunchAug 03 14:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Oligarchs, Unite Now! - CounterPunch.orgAug 03 14:42
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techrights-news"Yikes." ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/08/02/fifth-circuit-this-badge-wearing-serial-sexual-assaulter-is-beyond-even-our-expansive-definition-of-qualified-immunity/ | Source: TechdirtAug 03 15:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fifth Circuit: This Badge Wearing Serial Sexual Assaulter Is Beyond Even Our Expansive Definition Of Qualified Immunity | TechdirtAug 03 15:02
techrights-newsAICOA ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/08/02/without-the-votes-to-pass-antitrust-bill-gets-delayed/ | Source: TechdirtAug 03 15:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Without The Votes To Pass, Antitrust Bill Gets Delayed | TechdirtAug 03 15:03
techrights-newsRaspberry Pi ☛ https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/using-e-textiles-to-deliver-equitable-computing-lessons-and-broaden-participation/Aug 03 15:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.raspberrypi.org | Using e-textiles to deliver equitable computing lessons and broaden participation - Raspberry PiAug 03 15:03
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matey#techrights : 08/03/22 13:34 <matey> "If you get through all of that, there will just be more vulnerabilities next month. They’re endless."Aug 03 15:11
matey"attack surface"Aug 03 15:11
matey#techrights : 08/03/22 13:34 <matey> "attack surface"Aug 03 15:11
mateyuefiAug 03 15:11
mateywhich is something you slip a computer to make it easier to violateAug 03 15:12
matey"its no good, intel slipped it a yoofie"Aug 03 15:12
matey"did you put a yoofie in my firmware while i was using the toilet?"Aug 03 15:13
matey"no"Aug 03 15:13
matey"why is the boot process being all weird then?"Aug 03 15:13
britneyi think you mean roofieAug 03 15:13
britneyhttps://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=roofieAug 03 15:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.urbandictionary.com | Urban Dictionary: roofieAug 03 15:13
mateyno, its not rufiAug 03 15:14
mateyits uefiAug 03 15:14
mateybradley kuhn of course doesnt call it thatAug 03 15:20
mateyhe calls it a "problematic surface"Aug 03 15:20
mateythen he watches george carlin but instead of getting the jokes, he just counts the things carlin does wrongAug 03 15:21
britneycarlin is awesomeAug 03 15:22
mateyyesAug 03 15:22
mateytechnically, wasAug 03 15:22
britneyhes pronouns are now was/wereAug 03 15:23
matey :DAug 03 15:23
mateyhe identifies as a corpseAug 03 15:23
britneysigned, the corpse in this roomAug 03 15:24
mateyhttps://yewtu.be/watch?v=Sc6-1F50LDsAug 03 15:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Just a Body - InvidiousAug 03 15:30
mateythats king of franceAug 03 15:34
mateynot to be confused with kingoffrance, who used to chat hereAug 03 15:34
britneyi am the queen of franceAug 03 15:36
mateynot the lizard queen thenAug 03 15:36
mateyhttps://yewtu.be/watch?v=vUG-wzYxHVIAug 03 15:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | I Am The Lizard Queen! (The Simpsons) - InvidiousAug 03 15:36
mateythe simpsons scene is a reference to jim morrison saying hes the lizard kingAug 03 15:40
mateyhttps://yewtu.be/watch?v=grZQNaAyFDoAug 03 15:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Why Is Jim Morrison THE LIZARD KING? - InvidiousAug 03 15:40
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mateybritney: fun fact about maple treesAug 03 15:45
mateymost trees move their sap up and down based on cold and warm temperaturesAug 03 15:45
mateymaples do too, but they do it backwards (up when other trees are down, down when other trees are up)Aug 03 15:46
mateythis is related to when they can be tappedAug 03 15:46
mateybut the reason theyre backwards is theyre gassyAug 03 15:46
mateythis changes the way the sap movesAug 03 15:46
matey/me thinks its probably the poutineAug 03 15:47
mateythis is what im going to be thinking about when i see the canadian flagAug 03 15:47
mateythe real thing lincoln was worried about was that the northern states would be annexed by canada, while the southern ones would be annexed by mexicoAug 03 15:49
mateybut he was worried for nothing-- that didnt happen until clinton was in officeAug 03 15:50
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britneywhat are you talking aboot?Aug 03 15:53
britneyCanada isn't annexing part of the United StatesAug 03 15:54
psydruidthat's correctAug 03 15:54
psydruidthose parts have already been annexedAug 03 15:54
mateythe good news is they missed alaskaAug 03 15:55
mateythat can still be the former usas secret weaponAug 03 15:55
britneyHAARP?Aug 03 15:55
britneyits a weather control weaponAug 03 15:56
mateyhaarp is interestingAug 03 15:56
mateyi think its my favourite theory, after aliensAug 03 15:56
britneymatey, https://i.imgur.com/ylWKfm1.pngAug 03 15:59
mateyive seen that oneAug 03 16:01
britneyits from a super rare conspiracy newspaperAug 03 16:01
britneythe aliens are neanderthals and they don't come from above, they come from belowAug 03 16:03
britneymoho discontinuity!Aug 03 16:05
britneythe fans go madAug 03 16:05
XRevan86britney: And here I thought there were in Eurasia.Aug 03 16:05
britneyThey could be there, but they would be in the moho discontinuityAug 03 16:06
britneywhich is deep undergroundAug 03 16:08
britneyhttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/ce/Subduction-en.svgAug 03 16:09
mateyhttps://i.ibb.co/34FYmjy/notsayingitsaliens.png Aug 03 16:09
britneymatey, lolAug 03 16:10
britneythat belongs on the techrights websiteAug 03 16:11
phanesyou guys are the ruminati about systemd lolAug 03 16:12
britneyLennart is a space alien!Aug 03 16:12
britneyI actually like systemdAug 03 16:12
phanesruminating always, chewing the cud of systemd hateAug 03 16:12
phanesi do tooAug 03 16:12
phaneswell kindaAug 03 16:12
mateyi meanAug 03 16:12
phanesi think alot of features need ripped outAug 03 16:13
britneyim not in this for systemd hateAug 03 16:13
mateyi spent half a decade trying to get away from that shitAug 03 16:13
mateyfinally jettisoned gnu/linux Aug 03 16:13
mateyi had better shit to doAug 03 16:13
britneymatey, yo dawg, i heard openbsd was gonna adopt launchd from macAug 03 16:13
phanesyeah in enterprise you can either learn systemd or open a hot dog stand in the parking lot to subsist on when they fire you for incompetenceAug 03 16:13
mateyand the devs are the biggest cunts on "this side" of the industryAug 03 16:13
mateybecause theyre not on this sideAug 03 16:13
ulfGNU software is anti-competitiveAug 03 16:14
matey or open a hot dog stand <- fuck industry, systemd is made of the same stuff hot dogs areAug 03 16:14
ulf#if _GNU_SOURCE #elif _POSIX_SOURCE #elif _XOPEN_SOURCE #elif _BSD_SOURCEAug 03 16:14
britneyhey ulfAug 03 16:14
phanesmatey, not really, it's objective better in two key areas than sysv wasAug 03 16:14
phanes*objectivelyAug 03 16:14
mateythats microsoft sysvAug 03 16:14
mateyor it is nowAug 03 16:15
britney<ulf> GNU software is anti-competitive    <-- what do you mean?Aug 03 16:15
ulfbritney: they're all sabotaging each other with incompatible changes, all of them, including GNU/FSFAug 03 16:15
mateythe need for systemd has been debunked up down and sidewaysAug 03 16:16
phanesim sure it has nothing to do with huge corporations paying developers to contribute to look like they're open source friendly and community involved while sabotaging just well enough to force standardization changesAug 03 16:16
mateyindustry can like whatever shit they like-- they liked windowsAug 03 16:16
matey im sure it has nothing to do with huge corporations paying developers to contribute to look like they're open source friendly and community involved while sabotaging just well enough to force standardization changes <- im sure it has everything to do with thatAug 03 16:16
phanesmatey, these are all trojan horses modeling after securebootAug 03 16:17
mateyhehAug 03 16:17
phanesmjg59_, wouldn't you agree?Aug 03 16:17
mateysuckyour bootAug 03 16:17
phanesor does your NDA preclude you from answeringAug 03 16:17
phanesoh he's not here somebody must've flushed the toiletAug 03 16:18
mateythey should call it licurebootAug 03 16:18
mateycan i licureboot, microsoft?Aug 03 16:18
britneyulf, GNU/FSF evil?Aug 03 16:18
phaneshonestly an open source bios firmware effort that was actually better than what comes on mfg boards would fix alot of the problem thereAug 03 16:19
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phanesit can't be another tomato thoughAug 03 16:19
ulfbritney: what else?Aug 03 16:29
ulfthey're not any better or different than all the others: *bsd, micros~1, whoeverAug 03 16:30
ulfall of it, anti-competitive sabotageAug 03 16:30
britneycan you give examples of anti-competitive sabotage?Aug 03 16:42
phanesmajor distro github repos being compromised in series starting immediately after the acquisition of github comes to mindAug 03 16:44
ulfbritney: try to compile any GNU/Linux distro you wish, with tinycc compiler, for exampleAug 03 16:48
ulfbashism, another oneAug 03 16:52
ulfor this one #if _GNU_SOURCE #elif _POSIX_SOURCE #elif _XOPEN_SOURCE #elif _BSD_SOURCEAug 03 16:52
ulfbesides, it was RMS himself who introduced the term POSIXAug 03 16:52
ulfbritney: the fact you ask for example already shows you probably had never coped with "free software" as a developerAug 03 16:53
techrights-newsGlobalization ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/08/03/globalization-greed-and-reality/ | Source: Counter PunchAug 03 16:56
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techrights-news"In our drawers, there’s gonna be quite a few old devices that we’ve forgotten about, and perhaps we ought to make them work for us instead." ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/08/02/revive-your-old-e-ink-tablet-for-timetable-helper-duty/ | Source: HackadayAug 03 16:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Revive Your Old E-Ink Tablet For Timetable Helper Duty | HackadayAug 03 16:58
techrights-newsElite Lapdogs ☛ https://www.projectcensored.org/elite-lapdogs-always-welcome-in-the-corporate-media/ | Source: Project CensoredAug 03 16:59
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techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▇▂█▅▅▄▃▁▆▅▄▅▂▅▅▂▅▅▃▁▄▆▄▅▂▃▆▅▅▅▅▁ avg(k/sec) 35.50 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▃▅█▁▁▁▁▁▁▂▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▂▁▁█▂▁▁▁▂█▁▂█▁▂▁▁▂▁ avg(k/sec) 32.23▕ swarm size (avg): 0  ⟲Aug 03 16:59
ulfsome minutes ago, tinycc assembler freaked out over some unsupported ASM syntax... and i do not see tinycc at fault with thisAug 03 16:59
ulfand i mean, they're constantly knee-jerking themselves nowadays, because the entire "free software" and proprietary one alike collapsesAug 03 17:00
ulfthis anti-competitive sabotage "made in usa", they wrecked almost everything with itAug 03 17:00
ulfthat's the reason why, i couldn't read developer.arm.com web site with w3m or links or lynxAug 03 17:01
techrights-news"Whether you’re trying to block websites to protect children from seeing inappropriate videos or minimize distractions, we’ve got you covered" ☛ https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/block-websites-any-device/ | Source: PIAAug 03 17:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.privateinternetaccess.com | How to Block Websites on iPhone (& Any Device)Aug 03 17:01
ulfobviously, nothing a terrorist would do; yet they say, in usa, everything had to be clusterfucked for the "five eyes", patriots they areAug 03 17:02
ulfthere's no illegal pornography involved either, which they like to smear onto as argumentAug 03 17:02
ulfto protect children or whateverAug 03 17:03
ulfif this doesn't suffice, it's a racist thing to do, navigating documentation with w3mAug 03 17:04
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techrights-newsGAFAM versus women ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/08/02/how-big-tech-undermining-abortion-rights | Source: Common DreamsAug 03 17:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | How Big Tech Is Undermining Abortion Rights | Noel HuttonAug 03 17:05
techrights-news"A coalition of watchdog organizations on Tuesday urged Democratic congressional leaders to "expeditiously" bring a ban on lawmaker stock trading up for a vote" ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/08/02/cannot-wait-groups-warn-democrats-not-let-stock-trading-ban-die | Source: Common DreamsAug 03 17:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | 'This Cannot Wait': Groups Warn Democrats Not to Let Stock Trading Ban DieAug 03 17:06
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britneyulf, do you use a text based ui?Aug 03 17:19
techrights-newsWorst Coronavirus July on Record and Over 200,000 Dead in Latest Weekly Report https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/08/03/the-weekly-covid-19-data/Aug 03 17:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Worst Coronavirus July on Record and Over 200,000 Dead in Latest Weekly ReportAug 03 17:23
techrights-newsMicrosoft Pelosi (investing, for profit, in Microsoft crime) ☛ https://truthout.org/articles/22-government-watchdogs-ask-pelosi-and-schumer-to-act-on-congressional-stock-ban/ | Source: TruthOutAug 03 17:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | 22 Government Watchdogs Ask Pelosi and Schumer to Act on Congressional Stock BanAug 03 17:26
techrights-newsBuying the government ☛ https://truthout.org/articles/report-lobbyists-raked-in-record-2-billion-in-first-6-months-of-2022/ | Source: TruthOutAug 03 17:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Report: Lobbyists Raked in Record $2 Billion in First 6 Months of 2022Aug 03 17:27
ulfbritney: hey?Aug 03 17:28
techrights-newsPro Publica moaning about financial raiders while pocketing bribes from Famous Criminal Bill Gates (and of course never naming his crimes) ☛ https://www.propublica.org/article/what-is-private-equityAug 03 17:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.propublica.org | What Is a Private Equity Firm? — ProPublicaAug 03 17:28
techrights-newsPro Publica talking about "justice" while pocketing bribes from Bill Gates, a famous criminal who worked with Jeffrey Epstein very closely ☛ https://www.propublica.org/getinvolved/public-defenders-and-defense-attorneys-help-propublica-report-on-criminal-justiceAug 03 17:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.propublica.org | Public Defenders and Defense Attorneys: Help ProPublica Report on Criminal Justice — ProPublicaAug 03 17:29
techrights-newsBut ProPublica, Bill Gates pretends to be a charity while bribing you to focus on other things. You're culpable and part of the problem now. https://www.propublica.org/article/a-right-wing-think-tank-claimed-to-be-a-church-now-members-of-congress-want-to-investigateAug 03 17:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.propublica.org | A Right-Wing Think Tank Claimed to Be a Church. Now, Members of Congress Want to Investigate. — ProPublicaAug 03 17:30
techrights-news"Shadowproof was launched seven years ago. With many crises facing our world, we are proud to still be publishing independent journalism." ☛ https://shadowproof.com/2022/08/02/shadowproofs-seventh-birthday-looking-back-on-another-year/ | Source: ShadowproofAug 03 17:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Shadowproof's Seventh Birthday: Looking Back On Another Year - ShadowproofAug 03 17:30
techrights-news"Governments love targeting Twitter for user data requests" ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/08/02/twitter-reports-spike-in-government-data-requests-including-double-the-amount-targeting-journalists/ | Source: TechdirtAug 03 17:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Twitter Reports Spike In Government Data Requests, Including Double The Amount Targeting Journalists | TechdirtAug 03 17:33
techrights-newsFTC ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/08/02/if-oculus-were-separate-from-meta-would-the-ftc-still-block-its-latest-acquisition/ | Source: TechdirtAug 03 17:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-If Oculus Were Separate From Meta, Would The FTC Still Block Its Latest Acquisition? | TechdirtAug 03 17:34
techrights-news"At some point U.S. regulators effectively declared that it was okay to rip off consumers with a dizzying array of bogus fees" ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/08/02/att-gets-yet-another-pathetic-wrist-slap-after-making-millions-from-shitty-fees/ | Source: TechdirtAug 03 17:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AT&T Gets Yet Another Pathetic Wrist Slap After Making Millions From Shitty Fees | TechdirtAug 03 17:34
techrights-news"There are two ways to deal with improving ham radio receivers" ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/08/02/ham-radio-hacking-thinking-inside-the-box/ | Source: HackadayAug 03 17:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ham Radio Hacking: Thinking Inside The Box | HackadayAug 03 17:35
techrights-news"It’s an election year, and like clockwork, legislators around the country want to show they care about protecting kids online." ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/08/02/is-the-california-legislature-addicted-to-performative-election-year-stunts-that-threaten-the-internet/ | Source: TechdirtAug 03 17:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Is the California Legislature Addicted to Performative Election-Year Stunts That Threaten the Internet? | TechdirtAug 03 17:36
techrights-news"Bokeh is a photography term that’s a bit difficult to define but is basically soft, aesthetically pleasing background blur" ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/08/02/ultimate-bokeh-with-a-projector-lens/ | Source: HackadayAug 03 17:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ultimate Bokeh With A Projector Lens | HackadayAug 03 17:37
techrights-news"Is it too much to ask that politicians try to live in reality?" ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/08/02/uks-likely-next-prime-minister-wants-a-pony-a-magic-internet-where-no-one-ever-says-any-bad-things/ | Source: TechdirtAug 03 17:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-UK’s Likely Next Prime Minister Wants A Pony: A Magic Internet Where No One Ever Says Any Bad Things | TechdirtAug 03 17:37
techrights-newsThe Biggest Linux Security Mistakes - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=QxNsyrftJ8I | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/QxNsyrftJ8IAug 03 17:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | The Biggest Linux Security Mistakes - InvidiousAug 03 17:38
techrights-newsSecurity updates for Wednesday [LWN] ⚓ https://lwn.net/Articles/903676/ ䷉ Source: LWN | Kernel | Linux | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lwn.net/Articles/903676/Aug 03 17:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Security updates for Wednesday [LWN.net]Aug 03 17:39
techrights-newsLinux Today links to spammy self-promotional FUD :/ https://www.linuxtoday.com/developer/linux-malware-surges-surpassing-android/Aug 03 17:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxtoday.com | New Linux Malware Surges, Surpassing Android | Linux TodayAug 03 17:39
techrights-newsInsecurity 'as a service' https://containerjournal.com/features/securing-containers-with-zero-trust-tools/Aug 03 17:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-containerjournal.com | Securing Containers With Zero-Trust Tools - Container JournalAug 03 17:40
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phanescoffee makes me poopAug 03 17:44
schestowitz[TR2]okkk..Aug 03 17:48
schestowitz[TR2]comic insult dogAug 03 17:48
techrights-newsSecurity: Malware, Mistakes, Patches, and Snake-oil • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167958Aug 03 17:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: Malware, Mistakes, Patches, and Snake-oil | Tux MachinesAug 03 17:48
techrights-news"Linux" trademark diluted a bit more https://linuxfoundation.org/press-release/aais-linux-foundation-welcome-jefferson-braswell-openidl-project-ed/Aug 03 17:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxfoundation.org | The American Association of Insurance Services & The Linux Foundation Welcome Jefferson Braswell as openIDL Project Executive Director - Linux FoundationAug 03 17:51
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techrights-newsSpeek: An Open-source Anonymous Chat App Built on Tor Network • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167959Aug 03 17:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Speek: An Open-source Anonymous Chat App Built on Tor Network | Tux MachinesAug 03 17:51
techrights-newsAs Windows is spyware that surveys/surveils every single user of Windows, Microsoft knows best what’s going on and judging by this month’s numbers one can guess why they resort to overt antitrust violations with UEFI ‘killswitch’ while GNOME/IBM helps them (for money and favours) http://techrights.org/2022/08/03/finland-2022-share-os/Aug 03 17:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | One Can Speculate Why Windows-Friendly OEMs Start Enforcing Windows-Only Boot on Laptops (Microsoft Blocking BSD and GNU/Linux With UEFI) | TechrightsAug 03 17:52
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techrights-newsAbout 50,000 more UK COVID-19 deaths this past year. https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/08/03/the-weekly-covid-19-data/Aug 03 17:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Worst Coronavirus July on Record and Over 200,000 Dead in Latest Weekly ReportAug 03 17:54
techrights-news"RAID, or Redundant Array of Independent Drives (or Disks), is a phrase for information storage techniques that partition and copy data over several hard drives. RAID could be built to improve the validity and reliability of data or I/O efficiency, albeit one purpose may damage the other." https://linuxhint.com/raid-5-vs-raid-10/Aug 03 17:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxhint.com | RAID 5 vs. RAID 10 ExplainedAug 03 17:55
techrights-newsBefore Batgirl: 10 Near-Complete Movies That Never Saw Release ⚓ https://tedium.co/2022/08/03/10-unreleased-completed-movies/ ䷉ Source: tedium | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//tedium.co/2022/08/03/10-unreleased-completed-movies/Aug 03 17:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tedium.co | Before Batgirl: 10 Near-Complete Movies That Never Saw ReleaseAug 03 17:56
techrights-news[git pull] drm for 5.20/6.0 - Dave Airlie ⚓ https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CAPM=9twFEv8AcRQG-WXg5owy_Xhxy3DqnvVCFHgtd4TYCcKWEQ@mail.gmail.com/ ䷉ Source: kernel | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lore.kernel.org/lkml/CAPM=9twFEv8AcRQG-WXg5owy_Xhxy3DqnvVCFHgtd4TYCcKWEQ@mail.gmail.com/Aug 03 18:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lore.kernel.org | [git pull] drm for 5.20/6.0 - Dave AirlieAug 03 18:05
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techrights-news[GIT PULL] HID for 5.20 - Jiri Kosina ⚓ https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/nycvar.YFH.7.76.2208022133430.19850@cbobk.fhfr.pm/ ䷉ Source: cbobk | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lore.kernel.org/lkml/nycvar.YFH.7.76.2208022133430.19850@cbobk.fhfr.pm/Aug 03 18:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lore.kernel.org | [GIT PULL] HID for 5.20 - Jiri KosinaAug 03 18:05
techrights-news[GIT PULL] Networking for 6.0 - Paolo Abeni ⚓ https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220803101438.24327-1-pabeni@redhat.com/ ䷉ Source: Red Hat | ICBM | GNU | Linux | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220803101438.24327-1-pabeni@redhat.com/Aug 03 18:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lore.kernel.org | [GIT PULL] Networking for 6.0 - Paolo AbeniAug 03 18:06
techrights-newsDrone Contraband Deliveries Are Rampant at US Prisons | WIRED UK ⚓ https://www.wired.co.uk/article/drone-contraband-deliveries-prisons-united-states ䷉ Source: wired | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.wired.co.uk/article/drone-contraband-deliveries-prisons-united-statesAug 03 18:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.wired.co.uk | Drone Contraband Deliveries Are Rampant at US Prisons | WIRED UKAug 03 18:07
techrights-newsNew committer in freebsd: Felix Palmen (ports) https://www.freebsd.org/news/newsflash/#2022-08-01:1Aug 03 18:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.freebsd.org | FreeBSD News Flash | The FreeBSD ProjectAug 03 18:08
techrights-newsToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167960Aug 03 18:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesAug 03 18:08
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mateyfucking mouseAug 03 18:17
mateydont know if keyboard can compete with it for pure evilAug 03 18:18
techrights-newsFake security with proprietary junk https://www.dignited.com/98061/authy-two-factor-authentication/ misfiled as "linux"Aug 03 18:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dignited.com | Authy: A Review of the Best Two-Factor Authentication App (+Alternatives)Aug 03 18:18
techrights-newsAdd custom windows to GDB: Programming the TUI in Python | Red Hat Developer ⚓ https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/08/03/add-custom-windows-gdb-programming-tui-python ䷉ Source: ICBMAug 03 18:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developers.redhat.com | Add custom windows to GDB: Programming the TUI in Python | Red Hat DeveloperAug 03 18:20
schestowitz[TR2]1980s: here a mouseAug 03 18:20
schestowitz[TR2]I think the famous demo predates the 1980sAug 03 18:20
schestowitz[TR2]2022: here, a mouseAug 03 18:21
schestowitz[TR2]Apple: we  innovated a mouseAug 03 18:21
schestowitz[TR2]fewer buttons!!Aug 03 18:21
mateybritney  |matey, yo dawg, i heard openbsd was gonna adopt launchd from mac <- i dont think thats what happened / will happpenAug 03 18:21
techrights-newsApple motto: less is more, except for prices ;-)Aug 03 18:22
britneymatey, i was trying to get a rise out of youAug 03 18:22
mateythats funnyAug 03 18:22
mateybut their rc.d is like a masterclass in not fucking with thingsAug 03 18:22
britneyit limits the attack surfaceAug 03 18:23
mateyheheheheheheAug 03 18:23
techrights-news"A couple of weeks ago I was inspired by an old LTT video to try to make my own portable Bluetooth speaker. They used some 2″ full-range Dayton Audio drivers and 1″ tweeters along with an inexpensive Bluetooth amplifier module." https://www.the-diy-life.com/3d-printed-bluetooth-transmission-line-speaker/Aug 03 18:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.the-diy-life.com | 3D Printed Bluetooth Transmission Line Speaker - The DIY LifeAug 03 18:23
mateyim glad youve been here since roy figured out how to register a dns Aug 03 18:23
britneyattack surfaceAug 03 18:23
mateyit implies youre going to be here a whileAug 03 18:24
britneyroy figured something out?Aug 03 18:24
mateyor at least that youll be backAug 03 18:24
matey<britney> roy figured something out? <- probably. maybe someone else did itAug 03 18:24
techrights-newsPeppermint 08-02-2022 is out, but the site does not bear an official page yet https://peppermintos.com/2022/02/peppermint-release-notes/Aug 03 18:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-peppermintos.com | Peppermint Release Notes – Peppermint OSAug 03 18:24
mateyyoure sassy todayAug 03 18:24
britneylast i heard he was still working on that agate gemini serverAug 03 18:24
britneyi got the shavit one, its written in GolangAug 03 18:25
matey"i use shavit btw"Aug 03 18:25
techrights-news"Most of OBS's users run Windows. But it is a feature that's growing to be more and more relevant in that Linux lacks HDR support entirely as inexpensive HDR monitors proliferate." https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/1338452-obs-studio-28-beta-1-brings-10-bit-hdr-video-encoding-qt6-toolkitAug 03 18:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-OBS Studio 28 Beta 1 Brings 10-bit & HDR Video Encoding, Qt6 Toolkit - Phoronix ForumsAug 03 18:26
techrights-news"And X.org on Phoronix has been pronounced dead and an enemy of the bright Linux future countless times already" https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/1338452-obs-studio-28-beta-1-brings-10-bit-hdr-video-encoding-qt6-toolkitAug 03 18:26
mateyive used text-to-speech engines enough to know that "btw" is a french-sounded word, pronounved "bitwoouh"Aug 03 18:27
schestowitz[TR2]britney: no, we use https://pkgs.alpinelinux.org/package/edge/community/x86/gmniAug 03 18:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pkgs.alpinelinux.org | Alpine Linux packagesAug 03 18:27
schestowitz[TR2]sorry, wrong pageAug 03 18:27
britneyi use shavit btwAug 03 18:27
schestowitz[TR2]https://git.sr.ht/~int80h/gemservAug 03 18:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.sr.ht | ~int80h/gemserv - sourcehut gitAug 03 18:28
schestowitz[TR2]i btw shavit useAug 03 18:28
britneyi guess you couldn't use agate?Aug 03 18:28
matey/me wants a cpu instruction set called btw instead of arm, x86 etcAug 03 18:29
techrights-news"This is a brief summary of bugs fixed between Ubuntu 22.04 and 22.04.1." New LTS out soon https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/jammy-jellyfish-point-release-changes/29835Aug 03 18:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-discourse.ubuntu.com | Jammy Jellyfish Point-Release Changes - Release - Ubuntu Community HubAug 03 18:29
mateythen i can say "i use btw arch"Aug 03 18:29
schestowitz[TR2]britney: techrights uses agateAug 03 18:29
schestowitz[TR2]agate does only static pagesAug 03 18:29
schestowitz[TR2]it's also rust :/Aug 03 18:30
schestowitz[TR2]and also shithubAug 03 18:30
schestowitz[TR2]both rust and agateAug 03 18:30
britneyyour new one is rust tooAug 03 18:30
mateyand this is why i dont have a gemini server yetAug 03 18:30
mateybecause there is oneAug 03 18:30
schestowitz[TR2]no, it's CAug 03 18:30
mateybut it was a pain to configure, because it hooks into blah blah blahAug 03 18:30
britneyschestowitz[TR2], it literally says its rustAug 03 18:30
britney# GemservAug 03 18:31
britneyA gemini server written in rust.Aug 03 18:31
schestowitz[TR2]and the codert made his own laaanguageAug 03 18:31
schestowitz[TR2]hareAug 03 18:31
*schestowitz[TR2] restarts barrierAug 03 18:31
britneythe gemini server i use is written in go so its betterAug 03 18:31
mateygo is probably better than rustAug 03 18:32
schestowitz[TR2]ok, now it's more reponsibAug 03 18:32
schestowitz[TR2]emy guess is, barrier is relegated to swapAug 03 18:32
mateybut c/srht beats go/githubAug 03 18:32
schestowitz[TR2]and then there is this lag which results in hanging input passageAug 03 18:33
britneyshavit isn't hosted on shithub eitherAug 03 18:33
mateyhttps://git.sr.ht/~yotam/shavitAug 03 18:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.sr.ht | ~yotam/shavit - sourcehut gitAug 03 18:34
matey~yotam <- my australian cousinAug 03 18:34
techrights-newsSVT-AV1 1.2 https://gitlab.com/AOMediaCodec/SVT-AV1/-/releases/v1.2.0 Intel used to use GitLAB a lot more before the Microsofters invaded the company (now operating ar a LOSS) http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaksAug 03 18:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-v1.2.0 · Alliance for Open Media / SVT-AV1 · GitLabAug 03 18:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Intel leaks - TechrightsAug 03 18:34
britneysee lolAug 03 18:34
mateyyotam upside down is matoyAug 03 18:34
mateyobviously a distant relativeAug 03 18:35
schestowitz[TR2]that's what you say to your vietnamese mateAug 03 18:35
schestowitz[TR2]"yo! tam!"Aug 03 18:35
matey/me imagines vietnamese women gigglingAug 03 18:36
techrights-newsClear Linux is dead (nobody uses it), but Phoronix still treats it like 'on par' with Ubuntu (maybe because of the Intel context in today's "Intel Core i7 1280P Windows 11 vs. Ubuntu vs. Clear Linux Performance")Aug 03 18:37
schestowitz[TR2]there must be like 10,000 or more tam nguyenAug 03 18:38
schestowitz[TR2]but I know noneAug 03 18:38
techrights-newsReleasing Slax 15.0 based on Slackware again after 9 years and 11.4 based on Debian • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167961Aug 03 18:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Releasing Slax 15.0 based on Slackware again after 9 years and 11.4 based on Debian | Tux MachinesAug 03 18:41
britneyattack surfaceAug 03 18:43
matey :)Aug 03 18:43
techrights-newsxkcd: Chemtrails https://xkcd.com/2654/Aug 03 18:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xkcd: ChemtrailsAug 03 18:43
mateyi use attack surface btwAug 03 18:43
britneyi use arch btwAug 03 18:43
britneyxkcd: Chemtrails <--- realAug 03 18:43
matey100% genuine water vapourAug 03 18:44
britneyhttps://xkcd.com/966/Aug 03 18:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xkcd: Jet FuelAug 03 18:44
techrights-newsOpenMandriva Lx ROME Technical Preview Released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167698#comment-34501Aug 03 18:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OpenMandriva Lx ROME (Rolling) Technical Preview | Tux MachinesAug 03 18:44
britney<btw> i use arch </btw>Aug 03 18:46
mateyi use arch ehAug 03 18:47
britneyi switched to arch from fedora for the memesAug 03 18:47
mateythats like converting to judaism for the jokesAug 03 18:47
britneylolAug 03 18:47
matey"and that offends you as a jewish person?"Aug 03 18:47
matey"NO, it offends me as a comedian!"Aug 03 18:47
techrights-newsAdding a battery gauge to a Citroën C-Zero electric car | Arduino Blog ⚓ https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/08/03/adding-a-battery-gauge-to-a-citroen-c-zero-electric-car/ ䷉ Source: Arduino | Hardware | OpenHardware | Hacking | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.arduino.cc/2022/08/03/adding-a-battery-gauge-to-a-citroen-c-zero-electric-car/Aug 03 18:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | Adding a battery gauge to a Citroën C-Zero electric car | Arduino BlogAug 03 18:47
techrights-newsNew Version of Open Source Podcast Client gPodder Released • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167962Aug 03 18:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Version of Open Source Podcast Client gPodder Released | Tux MachinesAug 03 18:48
techrights-newsRevoy "posted a new Pepper&Carrot episode on peppercarrot website" https://www.davidrevoy.com/article920/episode-37-the-tears-of-the-phoenixAug 03 18:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.davidrevoy.com | Episode 37: The Tears of the Phoenix - David RevoyAug 03 18:51
techrights-news"We debate the lies our tool makers tell us, if Clojure has a Rails-sized hole, and the secrets of a successful software engineer." https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/149427/sweet-little-lies-coder-radio-477/Aug 03 18:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jupiterbroadcasting.com | Sweet Little Lies | Coder Radio 477 | Jupiter BroadcastingAug 03 18:52
techrights-newsMy experience at the [sadly infiltrated by Microsofter] Southern California Linux Expo (SCaLE 19x) - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=eZcvnmmihuo | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/eZcvnmmihuoAug 03 18:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | My experience at the Southern California Linux Expo (SCaLE 19x) - InvidiousAug 03 18:52
techrights-newsEndeavourOS 22.6 Artemis Quick overview #linux #EndeavourOS - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=5hss6Y5yYw8 | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/5hss6Y5yYw8Aug 03 18:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | EndeavourOS 22.6 Artemis Quick overview #linux #EndeavourOS - InvidiousAug 03 18:53
techrights-newsOpen Hardware/Modding: Arduino, 3D Printing, EncroPi, and More Raspberry Pi • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167963Aug 03 18:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Hardware/Modding: Arduino, 3D Printing, EncroPi, and More Raspberry Pi | Tux MachinesAug 03 18:53
techrights-newsLinux Mint 21 “Vanessa” Cinnamon Overview | Sleek, modern, innovative - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=vCbU2mCkXwo | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/vCbU2mCkXwoAug 03 18:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Linux Mint 21 “Vanessa” Cinnamon Overview | Sleek, modern, innovative - InvidiousAug 03 18:53
MinceR03 110412 < mjg59_> But it doesn't mandate them, so it's still hard to reviewAug 03 18:55
MinceRmjg wants programmers to be straitjacketedAug 03 18:55
mateyits really his brand of securityAug 03 18:56
MinceRbondage-and-disciplineAug 03 18:56
MinceR"security"Aug 03 18:56
MinceRalso, pascal can't handle strings over 255 charactersAug 03 18:56
MinceRat least C++ std::string allows greater lengthsAug 03 18:57
mateynot even freepascal?Aug 03 18:57
mateyeven qbasic can outdo that :/Aug 03 18:57
mateyfreepascal is 32bit, maybe theres a 64, qb is 16Aug 03 18:58
MinceRdunno, the last pascal i used was borland pascalAug 03 18:58
MinceRand it used 1 byte at the start of the string to store lengthAug 03 18:59
techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▇▂█▅▅▄▃▁▆▅▄▅▂▅▅▂▅▅▃▁▄▆▄▅▂▃▆▅▅▅▅▁ avg(k/sec) 35.50 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▃▅█▁▁▁▁▁▁▂▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▂▁▁█▂▁▁▁▂█▁▂█▁▂▁▁▂▁ avg(k/sec) 32.23▕ swarm size (avg): 0  ⟲Aug 03 18:59
MinceRdid standard pascal even _have_ strings?Aug 03 18:59
mateyfreepascal has a backwards compatible shortstring typeAug 03 19:02
mateyit also has 3 other stringtypes Aug 03 19:02
mateyAnsiString has a variable length that is limited only by the value of High(SizeInt) (which is platfom dependant) and available memory. It is a reference counted type.Aug 03 19:02
mateyso youll be okay with freepascal, except you still have to write in pascal :/Aug 03 19:02
MinceRdoes freepascal still treat the standard library as special?Aug 03 19:03
MinceRi.e. only it can have functions with a variable number of argumentsAug 03 19:03
mateygranted his moves the goalpost a bit given what i said about pascal earlierAug 03 19:03
MinceRalso, freepascal is still a bondage-and-discipline languageAug 03 19:03
mateyi dont know, i just looked this upAug 03 19:03
mateyi compiled hello world in fp onceAug 03 19:03
techrights-newsSean Michael Kerner is doing stenography (corporate spam basically) for his new employer. :/ https://venturebeat.com/2022/08/03/truera-joins-intel-disruptor-program-to-advance-ai-model-quality/Aug 03 19:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-TruEra joins Intel Disruptor program to advance AI model quality | VentureBeatAug 03 19:03
mateythen i got bored and left it Aug 03 19:04
mateywell to be fair, so is pascalAug 03 19:04
mateyits just light bondageAug 03 19:04
techrights-newsPuff pieces as a service = PPaaSAug 03 19:05
techrights-newsNeowin still a Linux-hostile Microsoft shilling site. New name, Usama Jawad, promotes Microsoft ATTACK on GNU/Linux today.Aug 03 19:06
techrights-newsFedora 37 Default Wallpaper Looks Refreshing • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167964Aug 03 19:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora 37 Default Wallpaper Looks Refreshing | Tux MachinesAug 03 19:06
techrights-newsBest Linux Distributions for an Old Laptop in 2022 • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167965Aug 03 19:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Best Linux Distributions for an Old Laptop in 2022 | Tux MachinesAug 03 19:07
AdmFubarand brightly colored puff pieces toohttps://www.paaseastereggs.com/ Aug 03 19:09
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techrights-newsVideos: Linux Mint 21 “Vanessa” Cinnamon, EndeavourOS 22.6 Artemis, SCaLE 19x, and Coder Radio • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167966Aug 03 19:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Videos: Linux Mint 21 “Vanessa” Cinnamon, EndeavourOS 22.6 Artemis, SCaLE 19x, and Coder Radio | Tux MachinesAug 03 19:12
schestowitz[TR2]AdmFubar: puffy stuffAug 03 19:13
schestowitz[TR2]how many pieces per pack?Aug 03 19:13
schestowitz[TR2]"6 puff pieces for $1000"Aug 03 19:13
schestowitz[TR2]"you name the topic"Aug 03 19:13
schestowitz[TR2]"we'll assign a fake journalist"Aug 03 19:13
ulfjournalists, it's not a recognized professionAug 03 19:14
ulfjournalistic standard, name a source, cite nonsense to proof nonsenseAug 03 19:15
schestowitz[TR2]uf would love udoAug 03 19:21
schestowitz[TR2]http://techrights.org/2022/07/21/conspiracy-of-silence-for-microsoft/Aug 03 19:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Conspiracy of Silence: The Corporate Media Does Not Speak About Microsoft’s Chief Architect of GitHub Copilot | TechrightsAug 03 19:22
schestowitz[TR2]oops, wrong urlAug 03 19:22
schestowitz[TR2]http://techrights.org/2021/04/15/bundestagate-part-19/Aug 03 19:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPOLeaks on Misleading the Bundestag — Part 19: The Deafening Silence of the Media | TechrightsAug 03 19:23
schestowitz[TR2]r Udo Ulfkotte.Aug 03 19:23
ulfanyway, the software-quality is that bad, i wanted to dispose it entirelyAug 03 19:34
ulfGNU, BSD, micros~1; as far as micros~1 was concerned, the only relevant difference for a developer is their sources or closedAug 03 19:35
ulfi already do reject all "web browsers", it's not a huge step to turn off computer entirelyAug 03 19:36
ulfi mean, it's almost the best anyone interested in "computer science" could do, avoiding any computerAug 03 19:36
ulfand grab a math book insteadAug 03 19:37
ulfcertainly, i can proceed with tinycc integration, yet even then it's unacceptableAug 03 19:38
ulfquality is that bad, it's not worth any discussion anymoreAug 03 19:38
techrights-newsLinks 03/08/2022: Release of Slax 15.0 and Fedora 37&#8242;s Default Wallpaper | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/08/03/release-of-slax-15-0/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/08/03/release-of-slax-15-0/Aug 03 19:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 03/08/2022: Release of Slax 15.0 and Fedora 37′s Default Wallpaper | TechrightsAug 03 19:39
techrights-newsToday’s 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167967Aug 03 19:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesAug 03 19:40
britneytinycc has a lower attack surfaceAug 03 19:48
MinceRapparently it also doesn't generate debug information, but who needs that?Aug 03 19:51
AdmFubarhttps://www.protocol.com/newsletters/policy/cloud-enterprise-privacyAug 03 19:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Privacy bill’s treatment of cloud companies evolved quickly - ProtocolAug 03 19:56
ulfMinceR: i didn't test debugging yet; did you?Aug 03 19:57
ulfit's futile to discuss too, because it's blocked at gdb-7.12Aug 03 19:58
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britneypart of the conspiracyAug 03 19:59
AdmFubarhttps://www.protocol.com/fintech/crypto-crash-ransomwareAug 03 20:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ransomware decline: Crypto prices are a factor - ProtocolAug 03 20:01
techrights-newsTwo Microsoft front groups converge, LF and OSI https://blog.opensource.org/the-five-stages-of-the-open-source-program-office/Aug 03 20:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.opensource.org | The five stages of the Open Source Program Office - Voices of Open SourceAug 03 20:02
britneyi wonder if the reptilians listen to snake jazzAug 03 20:03
techrights-newsThe LF and OSI nowadays exist for openwashing of proprietary software, i.e. to not actually change anything except buzzwords and perception.Aug 03 20:03
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MinceRulf: tinycc is not as important to me as it is to youAug 03 20:07
XRevan86MinceR: How'd ye rate its importance to you?Aug 03 20:10
MinceR¯\_(ツ)_/¯Aug 03 20:10
XRevan86Considering that there are other small maintained C compilers out there.Aug 03 20:10
MinceRmaybe it could be useful combined with lisp/c or c-meraAug 03 20:11
ulfMinceR: why are you distracting?Aug 03 20:11
techrights-news"Nearly 75% of all mobile phones run Android, based on the Linux kernel, and most servers that host websites and other content run on Linux. There are also several Linux distributions that individuals and organizations use to get their work done every day." https://www.unixmen.com/the-best-linux-commands-every-user-should-know-clear-and-simple-documentation/Aug 03 20:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://www.unixmen.com/the-best-linux-commands-every-user-should-know-clear-and-simple-documentation/ )Aug 03 20:11
ulfit's a C90/99/11 compliant compiler, see for yourself how far you'll get with "Free Software" thenAug 03 20:12
ulfif you said standards compliance and quality aren't important, that's another statementAug 03 20:12
AdmFubarIf Stephen King is scared by it.. it must be bad! https://www.rawstory.com/novelist-stephen-king-star-witness-in-anti-trust-trial/Aug 03 20:12
MinceRulf: who made you the moderator?Aug 03 20:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rawstory.com | Novelist Stephen King star witness in anti-trust trial - Raw Story - Celebrating 18 Years of Independent JournalismAug 03 20:12
ulfMinceR: moderator? why?Aug 03 20:13
ulfif you want to say software-quality isn't important, standards compliance isn't important, fine, say so.Aug 03 20:13
techrights-newsStable Kernels: 5.18.16, 5.15.59, 5.10.135, and 5.4.209 • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167968Aug 03 20:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Stable Kernels: 5.18.16, 5.15.59, 5.10.135, and 5.4.209 | Tux MachinesAug 03 20:14
techrights-newsSlackware-Based Slax Linux Is Back After 9 Years of Hiatus • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167969Aug 03 20:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Slackware-Based Slax Linux Is Back After 9 Years of Hiatus | Tux MachinesAug 03 20:14
techrights-newsNVIDIA Jetson AGX Orin 32GB production module is now available • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167970Aug 03 20:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | NVIDIA Jetson AGX Orin 32GB production module is now available | Tux MachinesAug 03 20:14
techrights-newsGoogle #Android Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167971Aug 03 20:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesAug 03 20:15
MinceRulf: i don't code in cAug 03 20:15
techrights-newsThe Best Linux Commands Every User Should Know (Clear and Simple Documentation) • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167972Aug 03 20:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The Best Linux Commands Every User Should Know (Clear and Simple Documentation) | Tux MachinesAug 03 20:15
ulfMinceR: and how then could you argue what's important and what isn't?Aug 03 20:20
techrights-newsNo place for privacy in India as government withdraws Personal Data Protection Bill - Access Now ⚓ https://www.accessnow.org/no-place-for-privacy-in-india-as-government-withdraws-data-protection-bill/ ䷉ Source: accessnow | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.accessnow.org/no-place-for-privacy-in-india-as-government-withdraws-data-protection-bill/Aug 03 20:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.accessnow.org | No place for privacy in India as government withdraws Personal Data Protection Bill - Access NowAug 03 20:27
techrights-newsThe Jamaica NIDS digital identification program: a cautionary tale​​ - Access Now ⚓ https://www.accessnow.org/jamaica-nids-digital-id/ ䷉ Source: accessnow | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.accessnow.org/jamaica-nids-digital-id/Aug 03 20:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.accessnow.org | The Jamaica NIDS digital identification program: a cautionary tale​​ - Access NowAug 03 20:27
techrights-news"Between 2022-07-27 and 2022-08-03 there were 28 New Steam games released with Native Linux clients. For reference, during the same time, there were 284 games released for Windows on Steam, so the Linux versions represent about 9.9 % of total released titles..." https://boilingsteam.com/new-steam-games-with-native-linux-clients-2022-08-03-edition/Aug 03 20:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boilingsteam.com | New Steam Games with Native Linux Clients - 2022-08-03 Edition - Boiling SteamAug 03 20:30
techrights-newsFake "awards" as mere marketing/PR stunts https://www.suse.com/c/suse-rancher-wins-three-awards/Aug 03 20:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SUSE Rancher wins three awards from TrustRadius as ‘Best Feature Set’, ‘Best Value, and ‘Best Relationship’ in container management | SUSE CommunitiesAug 03 20:31
MinceRulf: easilyAug 03 20:32
techrights-news"Microsoft software engineer Stephen Hemminger has proposed removing the DECnet protocol handling code from the Linux kernel. The timing is ironic, as this comes just two weeks after VMS Software Inc announced that OpenVMS 9.2 was really ready this time…" http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167973Aug 03 20:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Re: That proposal to remove DECNET support from Linux kernel | Tux MachinesAug 03 20:32
schestowitz[TR2]Microsoft loves nLinux traitorsAug 03 20:33
techrights-newsRe: That proposal to remove DECNET support from Linux kernel • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167973Aug 03 20:35
techrights-newsProprietary garbage. https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ncas/current-activity/2022/08/03/vmware-releases-security-updates-0Aug 03 20:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | VMware Releases Security Updates | CISAAug 03 20:36
techrights-news16 Best Open-source Free Ghost Blog Themes for 2022 ⚓ https://medevel.com/16-ghost-themes-os/ ䷉ Source: medevel | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//medevel.com/16-ghost-themes-os/Aug 03 20:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-medevel.com | 16 Best Open-source Free Ghost Blog Themes for 2022Aug 03 20:36
techrights-newsMaking up more job titles https://www.fosslife.org/whats-automation-engineerAug 03 20:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosslife.org | What’s an Automation Engineer?Aug 03 20:38
techrights-newsRed Hat as software police. Beyond sigstore https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/SLSA-framework-measuring-supply-chain-security-maturityAug 03 20:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | I will take the Red (Hat) SLSA please: Introducing a framework for measuring supply chain security maturityAug 03 20:39
techrights-newsRed Hat pays Microsoft marketing/de facto PR firm for fake, paid-for, manufactured "recommendation", feeding a vicious and rogue industry of fake "analysts" https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/forrester-total-economic-impact-study-reveals-red-hat-services-and-support-openshift-delivers-roi-over-700 http://techrights.org/wiki/ForresterAug 03 20:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Forrester Consulting Total Economic Impact™ study reveals Red Hat Services and Support for OpenShift delivered ROI of over 700%Aug 03 20:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Forrester - TechrightsAug 03 20:41
techrights-news"GTK4 screenshot of writer using true GtkScrollbars rather than themed Vcl ScrollBars. Long press enters gtk's usual fine control mode for scrolling." http://caolanm.blogspot.com/2022/08/gtk34-gtkscrollbar-for-writer-documents.htmlAug 03 20:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-caolanm.blogspot.com | Caolán McNamara: GTK[3|4] GtkScrollbar for writer documentsAug 03 20:42
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schestowitz[TR2]hi ryanAug 03 20:45
techrights-newsToday in #Techrights • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167974Aug 03 20:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesAug 03 20:45
techrights-newsSome time tonight the Gemini capsule of Techrights will be up to date again. Takes about 24 hours to restore from backup. Maybe tomorrow Tux Machines will be ready to access (new stories) over Gemini.Aug 03 20:46
techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▇▂█▅▅▄▃▁▆▅▄▅▂▅▅▂▅▅▃▁▄▆▄▅▂▃▆▅▅▅▅▁ avg(k/sec) 35.50 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▃▅█▁▁▁▁▁▁▂▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▂▁▁█▂▁▁▁▂█▁▂█▁▂▁▁▂▁ avg(k/sec) 32.23▕ swarm size (avg): 0  ⟲Aug 03 20:59
AdmFubarhttps://www.theregister.com/2022/08/03/nist_quantum_resistant_crypto_cracked/Aug 03 21:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Post-quantum crypto cracked in an hour with one Xeon core • The RegisterAug 03 21:06
MinceR(cat) https://imgur.com/t/cats/W2AuS0JAug 03 21:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Never heard of personal space huh? - Album on ImgurAug 03 21:09
AdmFubarhttps://www.techdirt.com/2022/08/03/virginia-politicians-are-suing-books-they-dont-like/Aug 03 21:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Virginia Politicians Are Suing Books They Don’t Like | TechdirtAug 03 21:18
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AdmFubarhttps://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2022/08/microsoft-playing-dumb-on-anti-abortion-donations-activists-say/Aug 03 21:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Microsoft’s $3M anti-abortion donations under fire from activists, shareholders | Ars TechnicaAug 03 21:29
DaemonFChttps://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/08/03/t-j-maxx-in-trouble-for-knowingly-selling-recalled-products-that-can-cause-fires-and-kill-babies-this-is-the-natural-result-of-republican-political-corruption/Aug 03 21:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | T.J. Maxx in trouble for knowingly selling recalled products that can cause fires and kill babies. This is the natural result of Republican political corruption. – BaronHK's RantsAug 03 21:54
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MinceRhttps://pleated-jeans.com/2022/05/12/funny-overheard-courthouse-instagram/Aug 03 22:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleated-jeans.com | The 'Overheard Courthouse' Instagram Account Shares Funny Conversations People Heard In Court (50 Pics)Aug 03 22:27
psydruidis T.J. Maxx the same company as the one that is called TK Maxx over here in Europe?Aug 03 22:44
DaemonFCNot sure.Aug 03 22:45
psydruid"In the UK, TJ Maxx is known as TK Maxx—as well as in Ireland, Poland, The Netherlands and Germany. The name was modified to avoid confusion with the British retail chain T. J. Hughes. The European Headquarters are based in Watford, Hertfordshire."Aug 03 22:46
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phanes♬ when you turn a routine service request into a portfolio annex that increases your company's revenue that's amore ♬Aug 03 22:59
DaemonFCschestowitz[TR2], I asked RMS to put a "Walmart" section on his site about the remodels with the self-checkouts, the higher in-store prices, and the credit card points schemes. "Carrot and stick" to make you use proprietary software and use a credit card.Aug 03 23:06
phanesi actually prefer using cardsAug 03 23:07
phanesits cheaper than paying someone to hold my money while i walk aroundAug 03 23:07
DaemonFCHold your money while you walk around?Aug 03 23:08
phanesi meanAug 03 23:09
phanesyou just try finding an intern willing to walk around with a wheelbarrow full of cashAug 03 23:09
DaemonFCAbout the only advantage I've seen to paying online is if I tell Walmart they left something out of my order or they handed me a busted can, the thing just says "Okay, here's the $3 back on your card. No need to come return it.".Aug 03 23:10
*phanes slips a 20 in DaemonFC's shirt pocketAug 03 23:10
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DaemonFCIt happens often enough that one time is a nuisance, but over time, it adds up.Aug 03 23:10
DaemonFCSo when some idiot busts a can and throws it in my shopping bag today, and two weeks from now, they forget my salad dressing, and then a month later they hand me a bag of chicken that's busted and oozing all over the sack, it adds up into an amount of money that is important.Aug 03 23:11
phanesi dont even go to the grocery store in person anymore tbhAug 03 23:12
DaemonFCYeah, I don't do that much.Aug 03 23:12
DaemonFCIt's not worth going in there, honestly.Aug 03 23:12
DaemonFCI'm literally paying the store (higher prices in-store, less credit card points) in order to go in and do free labor (shopping and ringing myself up).Aug 03 23:13
DaemonFCSo it's beneath me to do my own shopping at this point. And the funny part is sometimes they actually assign Mandy to go pull our own grocery trip.Aug 03 23:13
DaemonFCSo if it's paying him $20 an hour to shop for our own groceries, I mean, why in the Hell would I go in there, do it for free, pay 7-8% more, and then ring myself up and maybe have the system accuse me of trying to steal something while I'm in there?Aug 03 23:14
DaemonFCThen I touch touch touch the nasty self-checkout that everyone in Waukegan has touched and get the Monkeypox.Aug 03 23:15
DaemonFCThe TikTok lawyer claims that Walmart just goes full Hertz rent-a-car with the shoplifting accusations because nobody punishes them if they're wrong.Aug 03 23:15
DaemonFCNo problem for them. Big problem for you!Aug 03 23:16
phaneshttps://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/458/339/381.pngAug 03 23:16
DaemonFCIt's not worth Walmart's time to try to filter out who actually stole something from them.Aug 03 23:17
DaemonFCThey can just have accusations fly and let the judge sort it all out.Aug 03 23:17
*phanes pictures walmart as a dark ages villa where people poop into the streets out their 2nd story window and never goes thereAug 03 23:17
DaemonFCSomeone got murdered there the other day, in the parking lot.Aug 03 23:17
DaemonFCThere was an insane amount of blood all over the pavement.Aug 03 23:17
DaemonFCGun deal gone wrong, I understand.Aug 03 23:17
DaemonFCSomeone emptied a clip into the guy and then drove off.Aug 03 23:18
DaemonFC"I've seen people empty entire clips and hit nothing but air." -MorphiusAug 03 23:19
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DaemonFCFuck, I live in Chicago. I see people empty entire clips and hit air, the city bus, a little old lady in the laundromat, and a school teacher coming out of Starbucks when the guy they were trying to kill was RIGHT THE FUCK THERE.Aug 03 23:19
DaemonFCThey need to give these people shooting lessons in prison so there will be less of a mess when the parole board lets them out.Aug 03 23:20
phanesnobody lives in chicago unless they have toAug 03 23:22
phaneschicago rhymes with 'poor'Aug 03 23:22
phaneswhen i have a layover in chicago i don't even leave the terminalAug 03 23:23
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ulfi think that's why IBM Wintel do not release their sources of windows operating system, or intel CPUs:Aug 03 23:30
ulfit's probably that horrible quality, the entire globe would laugh their ass off and stocks crashAug 03 23:30
ulftoo, thats why GNU/FSF etc. are useful idiots, because MICROS~1 IBM Wintel point finters, it's the non-professional sources which are publicAug 03 23:31
ulffingersAug 03 23:31
ulfwhile theirs, their own, are supposedly much different, hence they can't release because it's too goodAug 03 23:32
ulfor, to rephrase this, even if micros~1 wintel wanted to publish sources, they couldn'tAug 03 23:32
ulfi mean it's almost impossible to produce worse quality than what GNU/FSF advertise as freeAug 03 23:34
ulfgerman government, while ago, insisted to take a look, hence microsoft offered a sealed room, with internet disconnect, video cameras forbidden, and strict NDAAug 03 23:35
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ulfmeanwhile, again, i am seeing GNU makefiles and libtool freak-out over an alternative compiler/linker insertedAug 03 23:37
ulfthe logfiles alone, are an insult to intellectAug 03 23:37
ulfand if RMS is responsbile for this, i wanted to see him suffocate in the jail where Epstein endedAug 03 23:37
ulfUSA operates many prisons, certainly there is space left for BillG and the entire crowd of hisAug 03 23:38
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psydruidGNU is software made for a bygone era, there is no need to want to see RMS suffocate for thatAug 03 23:43
ulfwhowever is responsible, advertising this as "free", got no more words for thisAug 03 23:46
XRevan86https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1554876349680173057.html Alex Jones' success storyAug 03 23:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-threadreaderapp.com | Thread by @GoAngelo on Thread Reader App – Thread Reader AppAug 03 23:46
XRevan86https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/08/03/st-petersburg-region-authorities-order-enterprises-to-send-employees-to-military-retraining-where-they-will-repair-equipment-for-ukraine-war-news "St. Petersburg region authorities order  enterprises to send employees to ‘military retraining’ where they will  repair equipment for Ukraine War"Aug 03 23:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-novayagazeta.eu | Новая газета. ЕвропаAug 03 23:48
ulfi think you have not the slightest clue, how bad it isAug 03 23:48
XRevan86https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/08/03/partial-mobilisation-announced-in-nagorno-karabakh-news "Partial mobilisation announced in Nagorno-Karabakh"Aug 03 23:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-novayagazeta.eu | Новая газета. ЕвропаAug 03 23:48
XRevan86https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/08/03/azerbaijans-defence-ministry-announces-operation-revenge-in-nagorno-karabakh-russia-confirms-escalation-in-the-region-news "Azerbaijan’s Defence Ministry announces Operation Revenge in Nagorno-Karabakh, Russia confirms escalation in the region"Aug 03 23:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-novayagazeta.eu | Новая газета. ЕвропаAug 03 23:49
ulfi mean, an error report of those build-system issues, it's almost impossible to report this conclusivelyAug 03 23:49
ulfinsanity, and evilness, certainly not "free" as in freeAug 03 23:49
XRevan86CIT (War in Ukraine): https://telegra.ph/Dispatch-for-August-2-08-03Aug 03 23:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-telegra.ph | Dispatch for August 2 – TelegraphAug 03 23:50
ulfUSA should be sanctioned over this, with an anti-trust against GNU/FSF and whoever else is involvedAug 03 23:50
ulfit's an act of sabotage against global economy what they didAug 03 23:51
ulfthis entire "software freedom", it's just a facade to justify all the other anti-competitive cancer spread by themAug 03 23:53
XRevan86MinceR: One thing activelow and britnеy kind of did to this channel is that now I can't take anything written here seriously.Aug 03 23:54
psydruidI'm pretty sure I do have an idea how bad it is, but there is nothing I can do about software I didn't contribute to in the first placeAug 03 23:54
XRevan86(britnеy is more positive at least)Aug 03 23:55
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