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activelowfew days later, "dictator Putin" ordered nuclear forces on alert, level2Mar 12 00:00
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activelow*pieceMar 12 00:00
schestowitzactivelow: ukraine blesses a wasre of already scarce energy in twinterMar 12 00:00
activelowreports about ukraine were their energy consumption was excessive, for various reasons, including outdated heating installations and old industryMar 12 00:01
schestowitzwell, now they have even lessened capacityMar 12 00:02
*x_ is now known as kingoffranceMar 12 00:02
schestowitzdo you want people running rigs to burn up electricity for an illusion of "wealth"?Mar 12 00:02
schestowitzmore so during war?Mar 12 00:02
iphonixbut they got lots of nuclear plantsMar 12 00:02
schestowitzmaybe go out to the gardenMar 12 00:02
schestowitzgrow some foodMar 12 00:02
schestowitzphebus: fewer now :/Mar 12 00:02
MinceRwell, if they need to heat their place in winter and it's too could outside for a heat pump to be efficient, they might as well generate heat by mining cryptocurrency :>Mar 12 00:03
schestowitzthey're being shelled, abandoned, taken over by the Putler forcesMar 12 00:03
schestowitzactivelow: there are more efficient ways to generate and disperse heatMar 12 00:03
schestowitz100 lightbumbs aren't a heaterMar 12 00:03
schestowitz*lightbulbs Mar 12 00:04
activelowschestowitz: ?Mar 12 00:04
MinceRincandescent bulbs dissipate the energy they consume mostly as heatMar 12 00:04
schestowitzand the more energy-efficient buls barely emit any heat at allMar 12 00:04
schestowitz*bulbsMar 12 00:04
schestowitzheating coils also emit lightMar 12 00:05
schestowitzyou might say they "waste" energy on lightMar 12 00:05
activelowanyway, i am almost certain, the Bitcoin move of Ukraine in parallel to their begging for weapons supplies was the final heart stroke for peaceMar 12 00:06
activelowor none thereofMar 12 00:06
activelowthis was the final spark to ignite itMar 12 00:07
schestowitzignote the war?Mar 12 00:07
schestowitzthe war is 8 years oldMar 12 00:07
schestowitzrussian invasion started with crimeaMar 12 00:07
schestowitzthis is a second and more extensive invasionMar 12 00:07
schestowitzsome of this was ignited ages ago when flirting with NATO and EUMar 12 00:08
schestowitzthey just underestimated Putin's temperMar 12 00:08
DaemonFCschestowitz, I'm getting better Internet speeds on T-Mobile Home Internet since they killed off the leftovers of the Sprint network.Mar 12 00:08
schestowitzwhy mobile?Mar 12 00:09
schestowitzafaik spring is only towersMar 12 00:09
DaemonFCThey had all that 3G and CDMA crap still running.Mar 12 00:09
MinceRSpring is a free realtime strategy game engine :>Mar 12 00:09
schestowitzSpring TheoryMar 12 00:10
schestowitzStringMar 12 00:10
DaemonFCThey shut it down so there's actually nothing running CDMA left in the United States now.Mar 12 00:10
schestowitz*StringMar 12 00:10
schestowitzanyway, I keep reading how awful and expensive US internet isMar 12 00:10
schestowitzwhich is funny becauseMar 12 00:10
schestowitz1) the Internet started in the USMar 12 00:10
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schestowitz2) the Internet is still controlled by the USMar 12 00:10
MinceR 12 00:11
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kingoffrance"So I guess consistency won't be found today"  no it will not, because noone agrees what "state" means.    ""this labor day, remember that organized labor gained traction because they were literally armed and literally fought armed battles with the state."     in "americanese" that means they fought "the people"  Mar 12 00:12
DaemonFCIt's like everything else.Mar 12 00:12
kingoffrancei fought the people, and i wonMar 12 00:12
schestowitz 12 00:12
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why the forgotten Soviet internet was doomed from the start - BBC FutureMar 12 00:12
kingoffrancei am the people, so iiiiiiiiiiiiiiii win </dead kennedys>Mar 12 00:12
DaemonFCThe government pays to research it and then releases it, then it grants monopolies to companies who didn't have anything to do with it.Mar 12 00:12
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DaemonFCThey add cost and take most of the money and do very little, and charge egregious amounts for what you do get.Mar 12 00:13
DaemonFCLike Gilead and HIV drugs.Mar 12 00:13
schestowitz"The Soviet internet was the brainchild of Viktor Glushkov, one of the founders of cybernetics. "Mar 12 00:13
DaemonFCThose pills don't even cost them $5 to make a month's supply of.Mar 12 00:13
DaemonFCBut they charge HIV patients $4,000 for a month's worth.Mar 12 00:14
DaemonFCThen the patents expiring doesn't even help much because corrupt "pay to delay" deals are legal.Mar 12 00:14
schestowitzIIRC, the Soviets did that too before the US 12 00:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | History of the Internet - WikipediaMar 12 00:14
schestowitzbut it didn't catch on as muchMar 12 00:14
DaemonFCSo you go another 5 years where you can only buy it from them.Mar 12 00:14
schestowitzlots of space-related milestones were also soviet achievementsMar 12 00:14
schestowitzbut that's not what they teach kidsMar 12 00:15
DaemonFCThen by the time there are multiple companies making it, it's no longer "frontline treatments" even though it still works.Mar 12 00:15
DaemonFCBecause the doctors are corrupt and on the take, and refuse to prescribe it.Mar 12 00:15
schestowitzyeahMar 12 00:15
schestowitzit's a cartelMar 12 00:15
schestowitzand nobody will prosecute the mastermindsMar 12 00:15
activelow1) the Internet started in the US <- x.25 predates the internet, and originated in UK iircMar 12 00:15
MinceRX.25 is not the InternetMar 12 00:16
DaemonFCARPANET is what the Internet was based on.Mar 12 00:16
DaemonFCThat goes way back to the late 1960s, iirc.Mar 12 00:16
schestowitzBornApril 29, 1926Mar 12 00:16
schestowitzGrodno, PolandMar 12 00:16
schestowitz(now Belarus)Mar 12 00:16
schestowitz 12 00:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Paul Baran - WikipediaMar 12 00:16
DaemonFCAlthough most of its existence was to network universities, laboratories, and government agencies together.Mar 12 00:16
DaemonFCThey had another version of it called MILNET for the military.Mar 12 00:16
DaemonFCMILNET still exists. The military has its own version of the Internet. It runs on Internet technologies, but it's totally walled off.Mar 12 00:17
MinceR"Participants in the design of X.25 included engineers from Canada, France, Japan, the UK, and the USA representing a mix of national PTTs (France, Japan, UK) and private operators (Canada, USA)."Mar 12 00:17
DaemonFCSystems that can access MILNET are not connected to the public Internet.Mar 12 00:18
DaemonFCHeh, the firetv stick puts ads for shit on your TV now while your show is paused.Mar 12 00:19
DaemonFCIt's showing ads for Mitsubishi SUVs.Mar 12 00:19
DaemonFCAll three people who can still afford a new car say HEYO!!!!!!Mar 12 00:20
DaemonFC:)Mar 12 00:20
MinceR:)Mar 12 00:21
techrights-newsThe Wine development release 7.4 is now available 12 00:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Wine 7.4 changes the default theme and more PE conversion work | Tux MachinesMar 12 00:21
DaemonFC 12 00:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Illinois Gaming Board pulls plug on sports betting related to events in Russia or Belarus following Ukraine invasion - ABC7 ChicagoMar 12 00:22
schestowitz-TR2"no thanks, sir, I get ma facts from HOLLYWOOD"Mar 12 00:22
DaemonFC 12 00:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Jussie Smollett appeal: Sentence begins with 1st night in Cook County Jail; actor shouted 'I am not suicidal' after sentencing - ABC7 ChicagoMar 12 00:23
DaemonFCThey need to protect him in case those white men in the MAGA hats come back to try again. ;)Mar 12 00:23
schestowitz-TR2hollywood: it's only fictionMar 12 00:23
schestowitz-TR2hollywood: we didn't suggest it is REALLY what had happenedMar 12 00:23
schestowitz-TR2argo etc.Mar 12 00:24
schestowitz-TR2wikipedia  [citation needed]Mar 12 00:24
schestowitz-TR2let's add some movei title :-)Mar 12 00:24
techrights-newsself-hosting git; or, how git servers actually work, and how to keep yours secure gemini:// 12 00:26
techrights-newsOpenZFS 2.1.3 released โ€ข Tux Machines โ‡จ 12 00:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | OpenZFS 2.1.3 released | Tux MachinesMar 12 00:27
techrights-newsVenezuela: Government Raises Wages as Inflation Hits Eight-Year Low | โš“ "near twentyfold salary hike."Mar 12 00:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Venezuela: Government Raises Wages as Inflation Hits Eight-Year Low | Venezuelanalysis.comMar 12 00:29
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techrights-newsMaking Putin's face turn blue? 12 00:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-DBusiness Daily Update: Blue Cross Blue Shield Buildings Go Blue and Yellow to Support Ukraine, and More - DBusiness MagazineMar 12 00:30
techrights-newsThis FUD was funded by Microsoft proxies and used Microsoft data. Now it's being used against Linux, which the Linux Foundation happily harms for Microsoft proxies that have infiltrated it. see 12 00:34
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Hundreds of Open Source Components Could Undermine Security, Census FindsMar 12 00:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | The โ€˜Studiesโ€™ of โ€˜Linuxโ€™ Foundation โ€˜Researchโ€™ Based on Data From Microsoft and Experts in Adobe, Not โ€˜Open Sourceโ€™ | TechrightsMar 12 00:34
techrights-newsLinux Foundation is like Republican Party, named after the thing it is attackingMar 12 00:34
MinceRFire Department?Mar 12 00:35
schestowitz-TR2you are firedMar 12 00:35
MinceR:>Mar 12 00:35
Ariadneschestowitz: i mean, npm is a total shitshow security-wiseMar 12 00:35
schestowitz-TR2yesMar 12 00:35
schestowitz-TR2it boils down to a shopping listMar 12 00:35
schestowitz-TR2the 'report' is just a massive copy-pasteMar 12 00:35
schestowitz-TR2I saw itMar 12 00:35
schestowitz-TR2not much on itMar 12 00:36
schestowitz 12 00:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-LXer: Extremely narrow focused report, why?: A Summary of Census II: Open Source Software Application Libraries the World Depends OnMar 12 00:36
schestowitz"Mar 12 00:36
schestowitzThis report IMHO is practically useless. A lot of work to present something that doesn't really reveal anything of use.Mar 12 00:36
schestowitzI'm not saying that such a report can't exist, just that it's one very very very very narrow focused report with niche relevance.Mar 12 00:36
schestowitzTime could have been spent doing something more interesting.Mar 12 00:36
schestowitz"Mar 12 00:36
Ariadnelike the average javascript projectMar 12 00:36
Ariadnehas like 1000 dependenciesMar 12 00:36
Ariadnemost of which have more licensing text than actual codeMar 12 00:36
Ariadnelike 5 lines of code javascript thingMar 12 00:37
Ariadneplus whatever number of lines of apache 2.0 licenseMar 12 00:37
DaemonFCIsn't that the thing where the guy got in there and sabotaged it and then people didn't realize it until the library he fucked with got automatically imported into their program?Mar 12 00:37
DaemonFCLOLMar 12 00:37
AriadneyesMar 12 00:37
DaemonFCThis is what happens when you blindly copy and paste code and call yourself a programmer.Mar 12 00:37
DaemonFCAnd this is what Rust is.Mar 12 00:37
Ariadneno, rust's ecosystem is a lot more sane than npm oneMar 12 00:38
DaemonFCSo many ways that can go wrong.Mar 12 00:38
Ariadnei've never seen a rust crate that is just 5 lines of trivial codeMar 12 00:38
DaemonFCFive?Mar 12 00:38
Ariadneyes, there's literallyMar 12 00:38
DaemonFCYou need a module so you have five lines?Mar 12 00:38
Ariadnenpm thingsMar 12 00:38
Ariadnethat are 5 lines of codeMar 12 00:38
Ariadneand then 200 lines of apache licenseMar 12 00:38
DaemonFCHow do you even license something that's 5 lines?Mar 12 00:39
Ariadnei don't know why npm people do thisMar 12 00:39
DaemonFCIt's basically generic and boilerplate at that point.Mar 12 00:39
MinceRbecause it's modular!Mar 12 00:39
Ariadnethere is literally an npm moduleMar 12 00:39
Ariadnethat is called isEvenMar 12 00:39
Ariadneand it isMar 12 00:39
MinceR(never mind that it's an insane way to organize code)Mar 12 00:39
Ariadnefunction isEven(x) { return x % 2 == 0 }Mar 12 00:39
schestowitz-TR2lolMar 12 00:40
Ariadnewith a 200 lines apache license in the zip file next to itMar 12 00:40
DaemonFCIf there is no other way to do something in a programming language, and you make a module that does it that way and then purport to copyright it, then that's bogus.Mar 12 00:40
DaemonFCObviously.Mar 12 00:40
Ariadneand this isEven moduleMar 12 00:40
Ariadneis in the dependency treeMar 12 00:40
Ariadneof over 1 million other npm packagesMar 12 00:40
Ariadnewhich meansMar 12 00:41
Ariadneif the author of isEven decides to go rogueMar 12 00:41
Ariadneand say, add a bitcoin miner to their moduleMar 12 00:41
MinceRi guess the % operator is challenging for nodejs developers to learnMar 12 00:41
Ariadneit's millions of things compromisedMar 12 00:41
techrights-newsWow. Lunduke got canceled. See this text. 12 00:42
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-elementary OS is imploding โ€“ OSnewsMar 12 00:42
DaemonFCNow that gas is so expensive, I'm finding even more ways to save some.Mar 12 00:42
DaemonFCI found some tweaks to the route between here and where Mandy works that save about 4% of the gas for that.Mar 12 00:43
MinceRlol @ "foolproof Linux distributions"Mar 12 00:43
techrights-news"Cancel Culture is a real danger. Remove traces of every{body,thing} we donโ€™t agree withโ€ฆso orwellianโ€ฆis it the future we really want? Freedom and ability to face the truth is what should we expect from FLOSS/Freedom communityโ€ฆ.but itโ€™s taking reverseโ€ฆ." 12 00:43
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techrights-news"Yeah thatโ€™s the problem. Weโ€™re replacing one mob with another. I wish we could evolve past this and recognize vindictiveness as socially harmful in and of itself." 12 00:45
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Ariadneschestowitz: lunduke is knowingly doing that to danielle on purposeMar 12 00:47
techrights-newsWhen the Water Stops: Water Survival Skills for a Disaster โš“ 12 00:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Community News March 2022 โ€“ The Cedar Mill NewsMar 12 00:49
techrights-newsLinux Foundation: FUD, Microsoft Outsourcing, and โ€™Clownโ€™ Computing โ€ข Tux Machines โ‡จ 12 00:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Linux Foundation: FUD, Microsoft Outsourcing, and 'Clown' Computing | Tux MachinesMar 12 00:49
techrights-newsZDNet is now shilling the CompTIA disloma mill. CompTIA helps Microsoft corruption.Mar 12 00:52
schestowitzAriadne: I don't know the background stiryMar 12 00:54
schestowitzrianne saw this in lwnMar 12 00:54
schestowitzad added it to 12 00:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | elementary OS is imploding | Tux MachinesMar 12 00:54
schestowitzlwn thought it was OKMar 12 00:54
schestowitzI disagree with a lot of lunduke thingsMar 12 00:54
schestowitzheck, I blasted himMar 12 00:54
schestowitzbut making him pesona non-grata is dangerousMar 12 00:55
schestowitzwhen they did this to RMS I could sympathise on some levelMar 12 00:55
schestowitzbecause it's done to many, inc. oliva and meMar 12 00:55
schestowitzportraying us as dangerous villiansMar 12 00:55
schestowitzfor stating the truth about novell, ibm, microsoft, patents...Mar 12 00:56
schestowitzI disagree with lunduke on many thingsMar 12 00:56
DaemonFCGoogle isn't entirely accurate on Maps I've noticed. It was recommending a route with more stop lights that was 0.4 miles longer.Mar 12 00:56
schestowitzbut making it a taboo to even mention his name or link to something he wrote is stalinistMar 12 00:56
DaemonFCObviously when your car is a pig and you travel that route daily, it adds up.Mar 12 00:56
Ariadne??? the thing he *wrote* is where the danielle is being deadnamedMar 12 00:57
schestowitzdoes gulkag still own waze?Mar 12 00:57
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Ariadneif lunduke is unwilling to correct his editorial error, then yes, he should be scrutinized for acting in bad faithMar 12 00:57
DaemonFCYes.Mar 12 00:57
DaemonFCThey're letting Waze rot.Mar 12 00:57
schestowitzas usualMar 12 00:57
DaemonFCIt has many bugs and they haven't added features in years.Mar 12 00:57
mjg59_"Not linking to material that deliberately deadnames to people is Stalinism" is certainly a takeMar 12 00:57
DaemonFCEvery once in a while, without fixing the bugs, they add voices as promos for a movie or some Microsoft video game.Mar 12 00:58
MinceRpretty sure they added features to waze in yearsMar 12 00:58
DaemonFCBut when the bugs are so bad that the app doesn't even work and says "No Network Connection".....Mar 12 00:58
MinceRit started showing alternate routes with time estimates on the map like google maps didMar 12 00:58
MinceRthey added lane guidanceMar 12 00:58
techrights-newsPoor zoo animals in Ukraine, starving, being shelled, shot at :( (I mean literally zoo animals). So sad... as if being in a cage wasn't bad enough already.Mar 12 00:58
DaemonFCI just don't even have Waze installed anymore. Even the features that sound useful really aren't.Mar 12 00:59
DaemonFCPolice report fake police sightings to make real ones impossible to determine.Mar 12 00:59
schestowitz-TR2Waze is spywareMar 12 00:59
MinceRlast time i checked, google maps didn't show allowed speed and current speedMar 12 00:59
schestowitz-TR2might as well have been an offshoot of nso group :)Mar 12 00:59
DaemonFCYes, and Waze doesn't work with TrackerControl on.Mar 12 00:59
DaemonFCIf you block tracking servers, Waze doesn't function, at all.Mar 12 00:59
MinceRyeah, every navigation software that has current traffic information and doesn't have you pay a recurring charge is spywareMar 12 00:59
techrights-newsLOL. Delete it. 12 01:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | How to Secure Your Facebook Account - Make Tech EasierMar 12 01:00
MinceRprobably even the ones you have to pay for, regularly, areMar 12 01:00
DaemonFCThere's just no reason to have Waze.Mar 12 01:00
DaemonFCIt wastes hundreds of MB on your phone and does nothing helpful.Mar 12 01:00
MinceRi guess the road network is far better in the usaMar 12 01:00
DaemonFCIt's been bitrotting at Google for at least 5 years.Mar 12 01:00
DaemonFCThere's a lot of Google abandonware that is still technically supported.Mar 12 01:01
techrights-news"Yes, we can run Linux Ubuntu from SSD or HDD which is not embedded on PC/laptop." 12 01:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Can I run Linux Ubuntu Via external SSD/HDD? - FossliciousMar 12 01:01
DaemonFCThey only recently officially shut down Google Toolbar for Internet Explorer.Mar 12 01:01
MinceRsounds like google maps is abandonware too :>Mar 12 01:01
DaemonFCIt hadn't been updated since 2013.Mar 12 01:01
DaemonFCThey had been trying to deal with Internet Explorer's horrendous rendering engine with "Google Chrome Frame".Mar 12 01:02
schestowitz-TR2are you sure?Mar 12 01:02
MinceRoh, they also made waze say something pointless when starting driving recentlyMar 12 01:02
schestowitz-TR2since 2013?Mar 12 01:02
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DaemonFCWhich basically shoved their rendering engine into IE and then let websites call it with a tag in the HTML.Mar 12 01:02
DaemonFCFirefox barely changes these days.Mar 12 01:03
DaemonFCMore sites get broken than are fixed.Mar 12 01:03
DaemonFCMore users leave.Mar 12 01:03
DaemonFCIt may look like Chromium and Gecko have similar feature levels, but then Google adds non-standard features into their rendering engine and then makes their sites rely on those in order to actually work properly.Mar 12 01:04
DaemonFCThen other sites do the same.Mar 12 01:04
DaemonFCMy bank only likes Chromium and T-Mobile's website too.Mar 12 01:04
DaemonFCDoing a User Agent hack makes the bank go ahead and work though, and T-Mobile is on autopay.Mar 12 01:04
Ariadnet-mobile website works fine for me on firefoxMar 12 01:04
DaemonFCI keep an ungoogled Chromium around just to sign into websites that WILL NOT WORK with anything else.Mar 12 01:05
schestowitz-TR2many us things do not work well with firefoxMar 12 01:05
schestowitz-TR2librewolf preetends to be firefox on windowsMar 12 01:05
DaemonFCWhen you sign into T-Mobile, it freezes and won't load the next page in the flow for about 8 minutes.Mar 12 01:05
DaemonFCThen it loads.Mar 12 01:05
schestowitz-TR2even if you use it on gnu/linuxMar 12 01:05
DaemonFCOn Chromium it loads immediately.Mar 12 01:06
techrights-newsFSF still hiring 12 01:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Contract opportunity: Bookkeeper โ€” Free Software Foundation โ€” Working together for free softwareMar 12 01:06
DaemonFCGoogle thinks I have a Nexus 5.Mar 12 01:06
schestowitz-TR2wowMar 12 01:06
schestowitz-TR2we had oneMar 12 01:06
schestowitz-TR210 years agoMar 12 01:06
DaemonFCBecause Fennec has an extension in it that lies to Google to make their search work.Mar 12 01:06
DaemonFCIt reports Chrome on Nexus 5.Mar 12 01:06
DaemonFCGoogle disables features unless it thinks you use Chrome.Mar 12 01:07
DaemonFCEven when they work fine in Firefox.Mar 12 01:07
schestowitz-TR2you would think a mere 'search engine' , box and results, should work OK on simple browsersMar 12 01:07
schestowitz-TR2ccheck page sourceMar 12 01:07
schestowitz-TR2bloatMar 12 01:07
DaemonFC<mjg59_> "Not linking to material that deliberately deadnames to people is Stalinism" is certainly a takeMar 12 01:07
DaemonFCMy aunt's husband got a divorce after having two kids with her, went and tried to get a sex change operation, was turned down by all the psychiatrists at the hospitals that did them. Had it done in Canada, then wanted the girls to call him Mom.Mar 12 01:08
DaemonFCSo, yes, I went out of my way to continue calling him "Keith".Mar 12 01:08
MinceR๐ŸฟMar 12 01:08
DaemonFCEspecially when he crashed my Aunt's funeral in 2013 and everyone there was all WTF.Mar 12 01:09
techrights-newsKali Linux adds VM-like snapshot feature to bare-metal installs 12 01:10
DaemonFCThen after he destroyed his lungs working at his body shop without wearing masks to filter out the paint fumes, he tried to file for Social Security Disability on my Aunt's earnings record.Mar 12 01:10
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DaemonFCTurned out he divorced her 6 months before they'd been married for 10 years, so they told him no, and he had been lying to the IRS about his earnings, so he lives on a very small amount of money now.Mar 12 01:10
DaemonFCHe was always a really odd guy. Eating habits too. Pizza could only have pepperoni, nothing else. Salads couldn't have dressing. Rice "reminded [him] of maggots].Mar 12 01:11
DaemonFCJust all these rules.Mar 12 01:11
DaemonFCSteaks dipped in ketchup.Mar 12 01:11
DaemonFCI think it's fair to say he didn't have one screw fully tightened.Mar 12 01:11
DaemonFCThe psychiatrists realized that he had a lot going wrong with him even though they probably had no Earthly idea what to call it.Mar 12 01:12
DaemonFCAnd just told him "no".Mar 12 01:12
DaemonFCHe isn't actually trans, they realized that much.Mar 12 01:12
DaemonFCProbably because after he divorced my Aunt, he was in a relationship with a woman again, and that woman walked in on him and my Aunt having sex.Mar 12 01:13
techrights-news"If you know about Geminiโ€™s early developmentแตƒ then you know that Gemini evolved from /Gopher/, not from HTTP! As such, Gemini attempts to capture Gopher-era sentiments about the web. Gopher is absolutely not a โ€œdo everythingโ€ protocol, it can serve like 8 types of media and text files." gemini:// 12 01:13
DaemonFCSo if I had to say something regarding this. He's not trans, he just internalized his hatred of being male, and that was probably the turning point.Mar 12 01:13
mjg59_DaemonFC: Yeah I think we've already established your transphobia is well aligned with your racismMar 12 01:13
techrights-newsTodayโ€™s #HowTos | #UNIX โ€ข Tux Machines โ‡จ 12 01:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | today's howtos | Tux MachinesMar 12 01:14
DaemonFCRegardless, it is sick, depraved, and wrong, to confuse your children like that.Mar 12 01:14
DaemonFCI don't get why people get married, live as a straight man, have kids, and then fuck the kids heads up by getting a divorce and going around claiming they're a woman now.Mar 12 01:15
DaemonFCI mean, they were like 7 when he did that.Mar 12 01:15
DaemonFCI can't believe he expected a 7 year old to be able to sort out that kind of bewilderment.Mar 12 01:16
DaemonFCHe came over to our house in that get up and I was like 5, and I went running to mom like "Mom, Uncle Keith is here, and he's dressed like a woman....".Mar 12 01:16
DaemonFCThen he got all pissed off that my mom was like "How dare you!" so he sped off from our house in his little Honda at like 60 miles an hour on a residential street.Mar 12 01:17
DaemonFCVery clear memory from that age. One of the few crystal clear memories I have going that far back.Mar 12 01:18
DaemonFCBecause it was all so very perverted.Mar 12 01:18
DaemonFCThen he lied, he had his doctor lie, so his insurance would cover the drugs he needed to make his body reject its natural state.Mar 12 01:19
DaemonFCAnd so the doctor told the insurance company he was being treated for cancer.Mar 12 01:19
DaemonFCThen my Aunt found out and called the insurance company and told them what it was really for, and they stopped.Mar 12 01:19
schestowitz-TR2can we focus on tech?Mar 12 01:20
schestowitz-TR2DaemonFC: not the right channel for thisMar 12 01:20
schestowitz-TR2I'm heading to bed nowMar 12 01:20
DaemonFCMeh, I mean, it's depravity on a lot of levels, including insurance fraud.Mar 12 01:20
DaemonFCStealing from people who are actually sick.Mar 12 01:20
DaemonFCWe've got a lot of problems in this country, like.....Medicare is going to collapse in 5 years, and they want boob jobs for men in there.Mar 12 01:21
DaemonFCPeople on Medicare, which hasn't collapsed just yet, can't afford insulin.Mar 12 01:22
DaemonFCAnd we're honestly debating furthering a mental illness.Mar 12 01:22
DaemonFCSo, I know, people like Stallman don't really want a debate about how to tax, and how to spend, and what public policy should be.Mar 12 01:24
DaemonFCThey want a leftist authoritarian government that just steals whatever it wants and hyperinflates, and gives money to people for taking up space.Mar 12 01:25
DaemonFCAnd they don't appreciate that's why our country is breaking down, and they want more of it.Mar 12 01:25
DaemonFCThese people who want cosmetic surgeries in health insurance..... No. Just no. It's already bad enough that the cost of healthcare goes up 15% every year without THAT.Mar 12 01:27
DaemonFCThe health insurance companies are always figuring out ways to be nastier. They have these apps now. Doctor visits in their app. You get on there, and the doctor can't actually, you know, do anything.Mar 12 01:28
DaemonFCBut they'll charge you.Mar 12 01:28
DaemonFCIt turns out that there's actually many things a doctor can't do on an app, like 80% of all the doctor things can't get done on an app, but they are pressuring people to use the app.Mar 12 01:29
DaemonFCHow do you get on an app and have them check lumps or a mole or how your lungs sound, or what your ears look like? What good is an app when you have an infection and they can't swab you through the app to see if you need antibiotics?Mar 12 01:30
DaemonFCThis is part of the current tech bubble.Mar 12 01:30
DaemonFCIt's also a shitty way for bean counters to do "time management" on doctors.Mar 12 01:30
DaemonFCIn only a very few limited cases does a app visit make any sense at all.Mar 12 01:31
DaemonFCYou know, I mean, my psychiatrist does them, and it avoids a trip to Chicago.Mar 12 01:31
DaemonFCNow with 500% more crime and 300% more expensive gasoline.Mar 12 01:32
DaemonFCThat's what Democrats do.Mar 12 01:32
DaemonFCI notice that most people actually have mental health problems of some sort.Mar 12 01:32
DaemonFCMost of them don't get treatment and then say there can't be anything wrong because they're not seeking treatment.Mar 12 01:32
DaemonFCYou know, like if you have cancer and you just let the tumor grow, it means you don't have cancer.Mar 12 01:33
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mateydaemonfc: its not vital that you get stallman right or anything, but you have his politics wrong all the sameMar 12 06:43
mateyhes not an authoritarian, politically hes a ship lost at seaMar 12 06:43
mateyhe only cares about causes. his politics on how to achieve those causes are neither authoritarian nor effectiveMar 12 06:44
mateybut he is openly against stalinism for exampleMar 12 06:44
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mateya good example of both of these is his positions on copyright reformMar 12 06:51
mateytheyre neither authoritarian nor can they achieve anything except hypotheticallyMar 12 06:51
mateyhe doesnt get copyright in real life terms, outside the scope of free software at leastMar 12 06:51
mateyso hes got ideas that work if theyre ever implemented-- and if not, things just continue to get worse for anyone on planet earthMar 12 06:52
mateywith software hes more practical than that-- with copyright in general he can afford to be uselessly abstract (but the rest of us cant)Mar 12 06:52
mateyeither way his proposals are very far from the authoritarian end of copyrightMar 12 06:53
mateyof course this is just one example of a trend i see in his politicsMar 12 06:53
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mateyyou make him authoritarian by lumping him together with people who differ from him in several ways-- that makes him authoritarian, just not in a way that realistically portrays himMar 12 06:54
mateyas for how he runs the fsf, he runs it like its his house-- which you should have no problem with Mar 12 06:56
mateyit doesnt work, because they reposessed it and its no longer his, which is a statement of how things are not how they should beMar 12 06:56
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techrights-news"How hard could it be to fix a vintage solderless breadboard that doesn't quite work?" 12 07:05
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | RevKยฎ's ramblings: Environmental sensors (SCD41 COโ‚‚)Mar 12 07:06
techrights-news"To get my feet wet with the whole "investigations" thing that we'd do, I started looking into this one day and chose one of the many temp sensors which were being logged by the servers." 12 07:07
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techrights-news"China Fabricated Top Official's Quote" 12 07:10
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techrights-newsSpying on users in the US 12 07:12
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mateyhiMar 12 07:13
techrights-newsWhy would you trust Texas with data? 12 07:13
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mateyits pretty dead in here, i was just leavingMar 12 07:14
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techrights-news"Though he was alone in his room, he was using drugs with other people. As he was injecting methamphetamine, he connected with hundreds of other individuals doing the same thing over Zoom." 12 07:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | The internetโ€™s meth underground, hidden in plain sightMar 12 07:14
techrights-news"More than 450 attacks were recorded against banks, more than four times higher than the figure for February." 12 07:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | cyber security: Russian company websites hit by increased hacking in March, says cyber firm, CIO News, ET CIOMar 12 07:16
techrights-news"Last week's assault by Russian forces on the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant was far more dangerous than initial assessments suggested, according to an analysis by NPR of video and photographs of the attack and its aftermath." 12 07:17
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techrights-news"What was once seen as a niche play for tech enthusiasts and investors crypto is now becoming a mainstream financial asset." 12 07:21
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GNUmoon2matey: are you on drugs?Mar 12 07:21
techrights-news"Many zoos worldwide are joining Tallinn Zoo's example of collecting donations to help Ukrainian zoos and their animals" 12 07:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Tallinn Zoo launches fundraising for Ukrainian zoos | News | ERRMar 12 07:22
schestowitz-TR2GNUmoon2: he is new hereMar 12 07:23
schestowitz-TR2and iirc he was trolling for daysMar 12 07:24
techrights-newsMicrosoft 'proxy' as censorship see 12 07:25
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mateygnumoon2: what kind of question is that?Mar 12 07:26
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mateyhow do you get from anything that was said to drugs?Mar 12 07:26
techrights-newsWell, disinformation is bad, but these companies usually tolerate one side (of disinformation), not the other 12 07:26
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techrights-newsNOT the Internet we need... 12 07:27
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techrights-newsNew avenues for government propaganda 12 07:27
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techrights-news"Over the last 4 years, I've onboarded 28 national government CERTs onto Have I Been Pwned (HIBP) and given them free and open access to APIs " 12 07:28
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techrights-news"Sunk cost is cost that's already been incurred. You can't reverse sunk costs." 12 07:28
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mateymaybe its a generic critique, like "trolling"Mar 12 07:28
mateyyou know, i dont agree therefore its: {drugs, trolling, etc}Mar 12 07:29
techrights-newsGreat example of political bias. Calls for death tolerated by Facebook. 12 07:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | RTL Today - Can of worms: Facebook allows calls for violence against 'Russian invaders'Mar 12 07:29
matey"we trust people to be civil and the debates to be constructive." i mean constructive might be a tall order, admittedlyMar 12 07:30
mateyhonest debates would be a startMar 12 07:30
mateymaybe work up towards constructive graduallyMar 12 07:30
techrights-newsFacebook and violence 12 07:30
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techrights-newsโ€œto post information containing calls for violence against Russian citizens" 12 07:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Russian regulators restrict access to Instagram | TheHillMar 12 07:31
techrights-newsTwitter is violence 12 07:31
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schestowitz-TR2matey: just remind me,Mar 12 07:32
mateyschestowitz-TR2: absolutementMar 12 07:32
schestowitz-TR2are you the same person who accused me of speaking out against companies for merely saying "open source"?Mar 12 07:32
schestowitz-TR2as maybe I confuse you with somebody elseMar 12 07:33
GNUmoon2Well, you said "its pretty dead in here, i was just leaving"... so you didn't really observer the conversations here, far from dead.Mar 12 07:33
mateythey were not showingMar 12 07:33
mateyi dont know whyMar 12 07:33
schestowitz-TR2yesterday's IRC logs (as HTML) are 1MBMar 12 07:34
mateybut when i came back there were people talkingMar 12 07:34
schestowitz-TR2just for this channelMar 12 07:34
schestowitz-TR2that's not dead, likely biggest so far this yearMar 12 07:34
mateyschestowitz-TR2: there are two people youre trying to figure out. Mar 12 07:34
GNUmoon2Some people work, busy, family, different timezone, so thee are not always instant response.Mar 12 07:34
mateyone is the person who, as you put it, accused me of speaking out against companies for merely saying "open source"Mar 12 07:34
mateythe other one is me.Mar 12 07:34
techrights-newsโ€œWe grew up making fun of our parentsโ€™ and grandparentsโ€™ falling for spam emails, but every single day I see young people falling for false narratives" 12 07:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Ukraine conflict shows Gen Z isn't immune to misinformation onlineMar 12 07:34
mateyi do not know who that other guy is, but i clearly excited something in him about that issueMar 12 07:35
SomeH4x0rof course not immuneMar 12 07:35
mateyhe was overly focused on the least important part of itMar 12 07:35
techrights-newsSocial control media misleads people 12 07:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Well-oiled conspiracy theorists push Ukraine disinformation | Deccan HeraldMar 12 07:35
matey <GNUmoon2> Some people work, busy, family, different timezone, so thee are not always instant response. <- still not clear what this has to do with drugsMar 12 07:35
SomeH4x0rthe fact one was born sometime recently doesn't mean they are superhuman or somethingMar 12 07:35
techrights-newsSocial control media needs to be avoided. It's bad for the brain. 12 07:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Ukraine War: Conspiracy Theorists Move To Ukraine Crisis After Covid DisinformationMar 12 07:35
mateyGNUmoon2 you seem to have the impression that my preference was a demandMar 12 07:36
SomeH4x0rfuck TikTokMar 12 07:36
mateyi simply preferred to come back when people were actively talkingMar 12 07:36
mateyare drugs required for that preference to exist?Mar 12 07:37
GNUmoon2matey: yes, you seem impatient.Mar 12 07:37
GNUmoon2If not, sorry.Mar 12 07:37
mateyno worries.Mar 12 07:37
SomeH4x0ranother cancer on the Internet...Mar 12 07:37
GNUmoon2All good.Mar 12 07:37
SomeH4x0ranyway, aren't these kids, or new-adults, manipulated by social control media all the time?Mar 12 07:38
mateyits not that i dont understand irc, im well aware that modern use of it is like the online version of geocachingMar 12 07:38
mateyi think its a red herring SomeH4x0r, that only kids are affected beacuse its new technologyMar 12 07:38
mateyadults are just as affected. ive complained about this before.Mar 12 07:38
mateyeven people in their prime and retireesMar 12 07:39
mateyi mean the primes of their careersMar 12 07:39
schestowitz-TR2trueMar 12 07:39
SomeH4x0radults are more likely to know the alternatives thoughMar 12 07:39
mateylike theres some age where people become impossible to distract or manipulate is pretty hilariousMar 12 07:39
mateymore likely to know them, not maybe more likely to use them. Mar 12 07:39
SomeH4x0rbut they might give up on these as well, and use the same social control media :(Mar 12 07:39
mateyconsider junk food as a metaphor-- people know alternatives exist.Mar 12 07:40
techrights-newsImagine the people who did this to him own a football club in ENGLAND!!! "caused a global outcry and he became an emblem of rights abuses in the country."Mar 12 07:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Raif Badawi: Saudi blogger freed after decade in prison - BBC NewsMar 12 07:40
techrights-newsChina doing what a lot of the West already does too (usually in more subtle ways) 12 07:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Chinese State Censors at Work to Control Messaging on WarMar 12 07:40
techrights-news">The Main Directorate for Combating Organized Crime and Corruption of Belarus (GUBOPiK) has detained prominent Wikipedia editor Mark Bernstein, according to the Belarusian publication Zerkalo." 12 07:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | A top Wikipedia editor has been arrested in Belarus - The VergeMar 12 07:41
mateyfor people to have full control over the addictiveness of technology they have to have full control of the technology in the first placeMar 12 07:43
mateyfree software has made great strides with this, but its falling behind (itself. the alternatives are worse)Mar 12 07:43
mateyyou can delete twitter, you can install nitter, both are better options than staying on twitterMar 12 07:44
schestowitz-TR2install nitter?Mar 12 07:45
schestowitz-TR2there is desktop/client side for it?Mar 12 07:45
mateythere are instances, so obviously you can install it on a serverMar 12 07:45
techrights-newsGulag collusion against the Internet/Web 12 07:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | RTL Today - "Jedi Blue" agreement: Google, Meta face EU-UK antitrust probes over online ads dealMar 12 07:46
mateythe great thing about nitter (compared to twitter) is that if you turn js off (and maybe even if you dont) it fixes infinite scrollingMar 12 07:46
mateyjust being able to reach the bottom of the screen is a huge step forward towards fixing twitters addictivenessMar 12 07:46
techrights-newsTo surveillance companies they have ruined Mozilla, too 12 07:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | EU and UK launch antitrust investigation into Google and Metaโ€™s adtech dealings - The VergeMar 12 07:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Facebook and Other Surveillance Capitalists Wonโ€™t Save Mozilla From Google Dependence | TechrightsMar 12 07:46
mateyits better to actually delete twitter probablyMar 12 07:46
techrights-newsSocial control media promoting violence see 12 07:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Facebook allows posts with violent speech toward Russian soldiers in specific countries - The VergeMar 12 07:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Twitter Profits From Conflict | TechrightsMar 12 07:47
techrights-newsEU should also investigate Microsoft crimes e.g. 12 07:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-EU, UK probe Meta and Google on advertising agreement | TheHillMar 12 07:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | EPO and Microsoft Collude to Break the Law โ€” Summing Up: EPO Administrative Council Still Asleep at the Wheel | TechrightsMar 12 07:48
techrights-newsDue to lawyers and the copyright cartel you cannot make decent music anymore (it is fiscally risky) 12 07:49
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techrights-newsCracks, not "hacks" 12 07:50
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Anonymous Hacks Russia's Roscomnadzor Site-Blocking Agency * TorrentFreakMar 12 07:50
techrights-newsLegal channels leave you behind 12 07:50
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techrights-news"Pressure on Russiaโ€™s independent media and international outlets has forced several to close or move operations outside the country" 12 07:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | โ€˜Journalism has Been Lost in Russia,โ€™ Says Novaya Gazeta JournalistMar 12 07:52
techrights-newsApple ranks LAST in USPIRG repairability report โš“ 12 07:54
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techrights-ipfs-bot โ–•  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: โ–…โ–…โ–‡โ–ƒโ–โ–…โ–ƒโ–‡โ–‡โ–…โ–โ–‚โ–…โ–‡โ–…โ–…โ–„โ–…โ–†โ–ƒโ–โ–†โ–†โ–ƒโ–„โ–‚โ–†โ–†โ–…โ–†โ–…โ–„โ–ƒโ– avg(k/sec) 23.06 โ–•  IPFS upstream: โ–‚โ–โ–โ–โ–โ–โ–‚โ–โ–โ–‚โ–โ–โ–‚โ–ˆโ–โ–โ–‚โ–โ–‚โ–‚โ–โ–‚โ–‚โ–ƒโ–โ–‚โ–‚โ–โ–โ–โ–‚โ–โ–‚โ–โ–โ–โ– avg(k/sec) 67.31โ–• swarm size (avg): 276.26  โŸฒMar 12 07:58
techrights-newsiophk: "it is just another corporate handout unless this includes work to actively migrate away from Windows" 12 07:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Spending bill includes large funding increase to boost cybersecurity | TheHillMar 12 07:58
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techrights-newsThere are much better reasons to boycott duckduckgo see 12 07:59
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Conservatives Revolt After DuckDuckGo Down-Ranks SitesMar 12 07:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | DuckDuckGo - TechrightsMar 12 07:59
techrights-newsDelete Windows 12 08:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Report: Recent 10x Increase in Cyberattacks on Ukraine โ€“ Krebs on SecurityMar 12 08:02
SomeH4x0rwhich search engine to use though?Mar 12 08:02
SomeH4x0ror there is no good one?Mar 12 08:02
schestowitz-TR2not good onesMar 12 08:02
schestowitz-TR2searx might be okMar 12 08:02
schestowitz-TR2if you trust the instanceMar 12 08:03
mateythe best search engine would be to make your ownMar 12 08:04
mateyyoud want to set aside a machine for the taskMar 12 08:04
techrights-newsAn event in support of Julian Assange 12 08:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Set Julian Assange Free! An event in support of Julian Assange, WikiLeaks and freedom of expression! - Don't Extradite AssangeMar 12 08:04
mateyother than that, if you can figure out what youre too lazy / incapable / busy to add yourself in terms of featuresMar 12 08:05
mateythen you can figure out which solution is the closest to what you wantMar 12 08:05
techrights-newsTwitter = violent propaganda 12 08:05
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Infamous Russian Troll Farm Appears to Be Source of Anti-Ukraine Propaganda โ€” ProPublicaMar 12 08:05
mateyif none of those are good, you might as well make your ownMar 12 08:06
mateyive thought about making a search engine lots of times, it would be modest of courseMar 12 08:06
mateyi always end up doing something else with the timeMar 12 08:06
mateybut for example, people are doing their own in gemini and this is sort of what im getting it. its more work with the web, but its not undoableMar 12 08:07
schestowitz-TR2it is expensiveMar 12 08:08
schestowitz-TR2making an independent and extensive search engineMar 12 08:08
mateyi wouldnt devote ore than a cheap server to itMar 12 08:08
mateyit would be for my personal useMar 12 08:08
schestowitz-TR2good lick crawling tens of millions of sites over and over again with one serverMar 12 08:09
mateybut its not going to happen unless the need outweighs the botherMar 12 08:09
mateytens of millions of sites over and over again with one server <- how often do you need a cache from the same day? Mar 12 08:09
mateyyou can prioritise certain websites, only the ones you are going to need that up to dateMar 12 08:09
schestowitz-TR2that's just the crawlingMar 12 08:10
schestowitz-TR2not even the analysis of the dataMar 12 08:10
mateyyeah the indexxing can be done by existing softwareMar 12 08:10
mateythe first thing youd want to do imo is strip the htmlMar 12 08:10
mateystore only plaintextMar 12 08:10
mateynow youre getting closer to a gemini engineMar 12 08:11
mateybut then theres lots of stuff you DONT need to index at allMar 12 08:11
mateyyou yourself said the web is mostly spamMar 12 08:11
mateyyou could search everything plus a blacklist of garbage you dont needMar 12 08:11
mateybut theres no law that says you couldnt build a search engine through whitelisting eitherMar 12 08:11
mateyand that makes its easierMar 12 08:11
schestowitz-TR2some sites would block youMar 12 08:12
mateythat doesnt bother meMar 12 08:12
mateyim very uninterested in most websites that block peopleMar 12 08:12
mateywe are trying to get away from the web anyway, right?Mar 12 08:12
mateyso those sites arent a priorityMar 12 08:12
mateythe point here is that this isnt a product, its not designed like a product-- it would be a tool for my personal needsMar 12 08:13
mateymore free software used to be written that wayMar 12 08:13
mateyyou make the source available and put it under a free license, but even rms says that most software is written for in-house purposes onlyMar 12 08:14
mateyor that used to be part of his speeches. its probably still true.Mar 12 08:14
mateymost  software isnt a product anywayMar 12 08:15
techrights-newsWhen war enters the gaming scene 12 08:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Video Games For Good: Releases โ€œBundle For Ukraine,โ€ Raises Millions Of Dollars | TechdirtMar 12 08:16
schestowitz-TR2matey: define productMar 12 08:18
schestowitz-TR2to some people, "livestock" is "product"Mar 12 08:19
mateysomething designed for consumers-- extended to things that are zero-cost but target a similar audience in scope.Mar 12 08:19
mateyand to people for whom livestock isnt a product, plants still areMar 12 08:19
mateybut surely we agree there is a difference between foraging and agriculture?Mar 12 08:20
mateyagriculture (in the modern sense at least) creates productsMar 12 08:20
techrights-newsThis week in KDE: fewer korners, more multi-cursor, better apps โ€ข Tux Machines โ‡จ 12 08:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | This week in KDE: fewer korners, more multi-cursor, better apps | Tux MachinesMar 12 08:20
mateyim not sure if im using the word product in a way that is unconventional, its a pretty agreed-upon wordMar 12 08:20
mateynot one that gets protested muchMar 12 08:21
techrights-news"A month ago, the controversial EARN IT Actย sailed throughย aย markup hearingย in the Senate Judiciary Committee." 12 08:22
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techrights-news"By now you surely know that former Congressman and current satirical cow censor Devin Nunes has become quite well known for his series of SLAPP suits against people who made him feel bad" 12 08:24
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mateyZoรซ Kooyman: โ€œItโ€™s Important to Listen to Community Members About What They Think the FSF Should Focus onโ€Mar 12 08:28
mateyif they suggest the fsf should get back to its traditional values, im sure there are crickets that will listenMar 12 08:29
techrights-newsRussia's Internet 12 08:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | The Tightening Grip of Censorship in Russia | The NationMar 12 08:29
techrights-news$249 Rockchip RK3588 8K mini PC comes with up to 16GB RAM โ€ข Tux Machines โ‡จ 12 08:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | $249 Rockchip RK3588 8K mini PC comes with up to 16GB RAM | Tux MachinesMar 12 08:30
techrights-newsPatents kill millions 12 08:33
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Mary Coombs, first woman commercial programmer, dies at 93 | Tux MachinesMar 12 08:36
techrights-newsMary Coombs, first woman commercial programmer, dies at 93 โ€ข Tux Machines โ‡จ 12 08:36
techrights-newsGoogle #Android Leftovers โ€ข Tux Machines โ‡จ 12 08:36
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techrights-news"Corporations are quick to blame this new reality on the pandemic, but another major culprit is hiding in plain sight: their own profiteering." 12 08:52
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techrights-newsPolice" officers routinely engage in excessive force, especially when dealing with residents suffering from mental illness" 12 08:54
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techrights-news"corporate efforts to monopolize repair resulted in a flood of proposed state and federal laws" 12 08:54
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techrights-ipfs-bot โ–•  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: โ–†โ–ƒโ–†โ–ƒโ–†โ–„โ–‚โ–ƒโ–†โ–‡โ–†โ–ƒโ–†โ–…โ–„โ–†โ–†โ–„โ–…โ–…โ–„โ–…โ–‡โ–โ–‚โ–โ–…โ–„โ–„โ–‡โ–‡โ– avg(k/sec) 23.70 โ–•  IPFS upstream: โ–‚โ–ˆโ–โ–‚โ–‚โ–โ–‚โ–โ–โ–โ–‚โ–โ–‚โ–โ–‚โ–โ–ˆโ–‚โ–โ–ˆโ–„โ–‚โ–โ–‚โ–‚โ–‚โ–ˆโ–โ–โ–โ–‚โ–โ–‚โ–‚โ–โ–‚โ– avg(k/sec) 54.28โ–• swarm size (avg): 276.28  โŸฒMar 12 08:58
techrights-newsHuman Rights Watch should issue a statement about the patents 12 09:00
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techrights-newsPandemic plunder: 11 trillion more in PUBLIC DEBT. Who pockets it all? 12 09:05
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schestowitz-TR2[08:29] <matey> if they suggest the fsf should get back to its traditional values, im sure there are crickets that will listenMar 12 09:06
schestowitz-TR2"traditional values"?Mar 12 09:06
schestowitz-TR2that term is bizarre for a whole lot of reasonsMar 12 09:06
mateyfreedom, free as in speech, etcMar 12 09:06
mateyyes but youre hung up on a phrase when the meaning is clear enoughMar 12 09:07
mateyim happy to clarify anywayMar 12 09:07
mateythe fsf was the same fsf for a long timeMar 12 09:07
mateynow it isntMar 12 09:07
mateythe words i chose mean nothing other than thatMar 12 09:07
schestowitzhow has it changed?Mar 12 09:12
schestowitz-TR2twitter account?Mar 12 09:12
mateyhow has the fsf changed?Mar 12 09:12
schestowitz-TR2I was surprised they took so long to respond to twitter becoming JS onlyMar 12 09:12
schestowitz-TR2and proprietary jsMar 12 09:12
schestowitz-TR2and still posting thereMar 12 09:12
mateyI was surprised they took so long to respond to twitter becoming JS only <- i mean thats a good example, there are probably bigger examplesMar 12 09:13
mateyleah for example gave them a year, but then later (reasonably) backtracked to something like "but who knows"Mar 12 09:14
mateyobviously a year is unrealistically shortMar 12 09:14
techrights-newsPatents kill. These sorts of messages need to become a DAILY routine. 12 09:14
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mateymoney isnt the problem, so as long as theyre in the black they will still existMar 12 09:14
mateythey can cut the spending to fit the budgetMar 12 09:15
mateyuntil they run out of people to throw money at them-- i mean thats going to take years at leastMar 12 09:15
mateyi dont even see an end in sight for their fundingMar 12 09:15
schestowitz-TR2[01:06] <techrights-news> FSF still hiring 12 09:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Contract opportunity: Bookkeeper โ€” Free Software Foundation โ€” Working together for free softwareMar 12 09:16
mateybut that doesnt mean leah is wrong about the fsf facing existential threatsMar 12 09:18
mateythere are matters of legitimacyMar 12 09:18
mateywhich are obviously debatable depending who (and when) you askMar 12 09:18
techrights-newsHow Putler deals with criticism on the Internet this is part of a worrisome trend: 12 09:18
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mateyosi still exists, but its still defunctMar 12 09:19
mateybut it existsMar 12 09:19
mateyso we are talking about legitimacy, not solvencyMar 12 09:19
schestowitzosi is in very bad standing, look beyond the siteMar 12 09:19
schestowitzthey lost patrickMar 12 09:19
schestowitzthen deb leftMar 12 09:19
schestowitzshe only did damage anywayMar 12 09:20
schestowitznow there's this really weak leaderMar 12 09:20
mateyim not arguing for osi, on the contraryMar 12 09:20
schestowitzI spent a week talking to himMar 12 09:20
schestowitzsimon phipps was miles betterMar 12 09:20
mateyim using them as the bad exampleMar 12 09:20
mateyphipps signed the anti-rms letter, to me hes scumMar 12 09:20
mateyi always thought he was sleazyMar 12 09:20
schestowitzi am not mad at himMar 12 09:21
schestowitzhe's not as good as michael tiemannMar 12 09:21
mateyyou dont have to be mad at him even if he is sleazyMar 12 09:21
schestowitzbut he's someone you can still speak to, and I sent him emails larelyMar 12 09:21
schestowitz*latelyMar 12 09:21
schestowitzlet me put it crudely like thisMar 12 09:21
mateyten (i guess 12) years ago phipps said the difference between free software and open source was nothing but a pedantic nitpickMar 12 09:22
schestowitzwe have a bunch of "typos":Mar 12 09:22
schestowitzthe free software 'fundamentalist"Mar 12 09:22
mateystallman disagreesMar 12 09:22
schestowitzthe free software "realist"Mar 12 09:22
schestowitzthe corporate-friendlyMar 12 09:22
schestowitzthe corporate shillMar 12 09:22
mateyyou mean stereotypes?Mar 12 09:22
schestowitzmatey: a decade ago maybeMar 12 09:23
schestowitz10 years ago the term open source was not so badly tarnishedMar 12 09:23
mateywell more recently he signed a letter saying horrible slander about rmsMar 12 09:23
schestowitzI wrote to simon and patrick maybe 20 times to report to them misuses of the termMar 12 09:23
mateyand he seems unapologetic about itMar 12 09:23
schestowitzsumon would usually direct me to patrickMar 12 09:23
schestowitzthey did not protect the brandMar 12 09:23
schestowitzor barelyMar 12 09:23
mateyno they lost the trademarkMar 12 09:24
schestowitzin 2019 I threw them out the windowMar 12 09:24
mateywhy do you want them backMar 12 09:24
mateyor phipps at leastMar 12 09:24
schestowitzi don't want "back"Mar 12 09:24
schestowitzI want peaceMar 12 09:24
schestowitzthey do notMar 12 09:24
schestowitzthey want peace... witj corporationsMar 12 09:24
schestowitznot with usMar 12 09:24
schestowitzthe moneyMar 12 09:24
schestowitznot the principlesMar 12 09:24
schestowitzthat's an issueMar 12 09:24
mateyfunnily enough we agree on the problem thereMar 12 09:25
mateybut um, youre not going to get anything by bargaining with a sleazeballMar 12 09:25
schestowitzbtw, 2 years ago OSI budget was 4% membersMar 12 09:25
mateyof course if youre right and hes NOT a sleazeball, that changes thingsMar 12 09:25
schestowitza yeat before it was 5%Mar 12 09:25
schestowitzIRS is always 1-2 years behindMar 12 09:25
mateybut ive never been as charitable to himMar 12 09:25
schestowitzsleazeball is a bad termMar 12 09:25
schestowitzand won't help diplomaticallyMar 12 09:25
mateydiplomacy isnt always the answerMar 12 09:26
mateyand that was my point when i said arguing with a sleazeball wont workMar 12 09:26
schestowitzit does not harmMar 12 09:26
schestowitzit can helpMar 12 09:26
mateynot alwaysMar 12 09:26
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mateytheres a place for diplomacyMar 12 09:26
schestowitz-TR2lately I've mosly iognored OSIMar 12 09:27
schestowitz-TR2which was easyMar 12 09:27
mateyyeah, what osi?Mar 12 09:27
schestowitz-TR2because they lack any real cloutMar 12 09:27
schestowitz-TR2they just write "fillers" in their siteMar 12 09:27 iiMar 12 09:27
Ariadneif your qualification for whether somebody is a sleezeball is whether they signed an anti-rms letter...Mar 12 09:27
schestowitz-TR2ha!Mar 12 09:27
schestowitz-TR2funny you mention linux.comMar 12 09:27
schestowitz-TR2as I was JUST about to give that as an analogMar 12 09:27
mateyif your qualification for whether somebody is a sleezeball is whether they signed an anti-rms letter <- how could it be? i thought he was years before that.Mar 12 09:28
Ariadnei mean, you said, "3:20 AM <matey> phipps signed the anti-rms letter, to me hes scum"Mar 12 09:28
Ariadneso, i was wondering if you had other qualifiers besides thatMar 12 09:28
mateytwo statements that are related, but youre making it into an isolated causal statementMar 12 09:28
mateyit was a summary. Mar 12 09:28
Ariadneoh okMar 12 09:29
schestowitz-TR2phipps had done wrose thingsMar 12 09:29
mateyin fact one COULD be a non-sleazeball and sign it.Mar 12 09:29
schestowitz-TR2like calling RMS namesMar 12 09:29
schestowitz-TR2ableistMar 12 09:29
SomeH4x0rcancelling people here as well?Mar 12 09:29
mateywell the letter called him ableistMar 12 09:29
schestowitzalso 12 09:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Leak: FSFE and OSI Coordinate Rubbing Off Free Software by Saying โ€œOpen Sourceโ€ is the Same (Itโ€™s Not, Same False Argument From 20 Years Earlier) | TechrightsMar 12 09:29
matey<SomeH4x0r> cancelling people here as well? <- what?Mar 12 09:29
SomeH4x0rsaying someone is wrong if they signed somethingMar 12 09:29
Ariadnei was just asking how the sentence was meant to be parsedMar 12 09:30
mateyit depends on what they signedMar 12 09:30
schestowitz-TR2to clarify, I am not blasting Phipps for calling RMS that, via a signatureMar 12 09:30
schestowitz-TR2SPhipps himself is the ableistMar 12 09:30
SomeH4x0rit is not some war contract thoughMar 12 09:30
schestowitz-TR2based on his own wordsMar 12 09:30
schestowitz-TR2don't throw stones in glass house, Simon..Mar 12 09:30
mateyit is not some war contract though <- debatable, but either way that wasnt what i said.Mar 12 09:30
mateywhat i said was: in fact one COULD be a non-sleazeball and sign it.Mar 12 09:30
Ariadnei mean, RMS is not somebody i would invite to a party i was throwing, bluntlyMar 12 09:31
Ariadnebut he can do as he wishesMar 12 09:31
SomeH4x0rI don't want big foundation behind free software movementMar 12 09:31
SomeH4x0rbig entities turn evilMar 12 09:32
Ariadnesame, i want grassroots shitMar 12 09:32
mateythirdMar 12 09:32
SomeH4x0ralso now "sanctions" force it to be evilMar 12 09:32
Ariadnehero worship is boringMar 12 09:32
schestowitz-TR2FSF does not monopolise thisMar 12 09:32
schestowitz-TR2it does produce some articles and does the (c) for a lot of gnuMar 12 09:32
mateyi dont think getting history right is the same as hero worshipMar 12 09:32
Ariadnedon't have heroes btw, you'll just wind up disappointedMar 12 09:32
schestowitz-TR2and writes licencesMar 12 09:32
SomeH4x0rWTFPL is betterMar 12 09:33
mateyFSF does not monopolise this <- not per se. they sometimes play their hand in a monpolistic fashion. im not sure its intentional, it happens all the sameMar 12 09:33
schestowitz-TR2techrights is a friend of FSFMar 12 09:33
mateybut a critical friendMar 12 09:33
SomeH4x0reven better is to reject the idea of copyright and share the files as isMar 12 09:33
Ariadnematey: that's why my criticism of FSF has focused on technical issues rather than social faux pas i have not personally witnessedMar 12 09:33
schestowitz-TR2in 2006 some people wrongly perceived boycottnovell as an FSF projectMar 12 09:33
Ariadnelike how FSF encourages people to use insecure microcode rather than updating itMar 12 09:33
schestowitz-TR2we had to repeatedly correct that assertionMar 12 09:33
Ariadneideally, microcode would not exist, but updating it is important for securityMar 12 09:33
mateylike how FSF encourages people to use insecure microcode rather than updating it <- ive been trying to understand the microcode issueMar 12 09:34
mateyleah says its not what people think it is... but im still not entirely clear on what it ACTUALLY isMar 12 09:34
mateybecause im not a hardware personMar 12 09:34
SomeH4x0rupdates can be malicious as wellMar 12 09:34
SomeH4x0rafk for now, I thinkMar 12 09:34
schestowitz-TR2fwdupMar 12 09:35
Ariadnematey: basically x86 CPUs are buggy as fuck, and microcode updates turn on/off various chicken bits, or hotpatch the lookup table used by the instruction decoderMar 12 09:35
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Ariadnethese updates are also very small, there is not much they can doMar 12 09:35
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Ariadnespectre/meltdown mitigation requires a microcode update that switches IBRS on (a feature intel was not planning to release yet)Mar 12 09:36
techrights-newsIRC Proceedings: Friday, March 11, 2022 | Techrights โš“ | โ™พ Gemini address: gemini:// 12 09:37
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mateyi guess what im not clear on is how large the interface is that is patchable.Mar 12 09:38
Ariadneits fairly narrow, and the patch ram is measured in individual words, not even KBMar 12 09:38
mateyhmm...Mar 12 09:38
mateythat is really smallMar 12 09:39
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Ariadneusually microcode updates switch off broken features that failed QA testing but are enabled by default in siliconMar 12 09:39
mateyif its literally just a series of bits, thats not even copyrightableMar 12 09:39
mateyif its not copyrightable, it cant be non-free either.Mar 12 09:39
mateyi mean, theres ndas and trade secrets and whatever, but that doesnt apply here. anyone can just take it apart.Mar 12 09:40
Ariadnebecause of competition, both intel and amd started encrypting them :(Mar 12 09:40
mateyahhh i shouldve knownMar 12 09:40
mateyi knew there was something i was missingMar 12 09:40
mateybut even so, its not actually non-free softwareMar 12 09:41
mateyits not software at all.Mar 12 09:41
Ariadneits ideally something your BIOS is taking care of at initial bootMar 12 09:41
Ariadnebut people never update their firmwareMar 12 09:41
Ariadneso Linux can hot-update the microcode at runtimeMar 12 09:41
Ariadne(as can Windows)Mar 12 09:41
mateyas can any os i can think ofMar 12 09:42
mateyexcept probably haikuMar 12 09:42
mateybut really you could port it im sureMar 12 09:42
Ariadnebut like, intel has partsMar 12 09:42
Ariadnewhere VMXMar 12 09:42
Ariadneis initially configured in a way where using it will make the CPU trip CATERRMar 12 09:42
Ariadnebecause they made an oopsie-woopsie at the factoryMar 12 09:43
mateyright to repair is hopefully going to send hot pokers towards the idea that intel can just encrypt those patchesMar 12 09:43
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mateyi take it you cant just read the patch area after applying the patch and write your own patch that wayMar 12 09:44
mateybecause its write only?Mar 12 09:44
mateylike you can set it but you cant read what youve setMar 12 09:44
AriadneyesMar 12 09:45
mateysighMar 12 09:45
Ariadneyou can't observe the effects of the patchMar 12 09:45
Ariadnei meanMar 12 09:45
Ariadneyou probably canMar 12 09:45
Ariadnethere's a gazillion MSRsMar 12 09:45
mateyi mean thats the only way the encryption would make any sense in the first placeMar 12 09:45
Ariadnethat these patches tickleMar 12 09:45
mateythe chips vary that much?Mar 12 09:45
mateyeven in this tiny interface?Mar 12 09:45
Ariadneall CPUs have MSRs that leak internal stateMar 12 09:46
mateynot surprisingMar 12 09:46
mateybut to manage them allMar 12 09:46
mateywould be a lot of workMar 12 09:46
Ariadneand yes, different SKUs have different bugsMar 12 09:46
Ariadnea microcode update file is a bundle of likeMar 12 09:46
Ariadnetens of thousands of patchesMar 12 09:46
Ariadneand some selection logicMar 12 09:47
techrights-news"What is particularly sad is the truths in that person's forum post. He referred to the great lie of "weapons of mass destruction" used as an excuse to invade Iraq. Yes, I believe that Tony Blair of the UK and George W. Bush are war criminals" 12 09:47
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Ariadnethe chip picks the patches it needs and discards the restMar 12 09:47
techrights-news"Crystal-ball gazing, trying to think of possible futures, none of it looks good. Is Moldova next on the invasion-list? Finland, if it chooses to join Nato?" 12 09:48
mateyand im sure someone already ruled out the idea of having a chip emulator to "receive" the update and read it that wayMar 12 09:48
mateyas its being writtenMar 12 09:48
mateybecause the encryption isnt in the software, its in the intel chip, or something like thatMar 12 09:49
schestowitz-TR2mr. easyos/puppylinux covers politicsMar 12 09:49
techrights-news"There are tutorials on how to install EasyOS to a hard drive partition..." 12 09:50
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Ariadnematey: i mean, i'm sure AMD and Intel have cracked each other's microcode updates by nowMar 12 09:52
Ariadnebut the FSF believe that if you can author your own microcode updates, you can like radically change the behaviour of the CPUMar 12 09:52
Ariadneand it's just not trueMar 12 09:53
Ariadneyou can turn some features on, or offMar 12 09:53
mateyand you can do it without knowing what youre doingMar 12 09:53
Ariadneand those features might be turned off for good reason, like they're brokenMar 12 09:53
Ariadneboth intel and amd have changelogsMar 12 09:53
Ariadnefor their microcode updatesMar 12 09:53
Ariadnecan't *audit* it, but if you trust them already enough to do your computation on their chips...Mar 12 09:54
Ariadnei personally, do not trust themMar 12 09:54
mateyrightMar 12 09:54
Ariadneand have been working to remove x86 from my infrastructureMar 12 09:54
mateyit almost seems like they have a reasonable theory, which applies to a premise that isnt validMar 12 09:55
mateythe fsf Mar 12 09:55
Ariadneoutside x86, there are not "microcode updates"Mar 12 09:55
mateybecause risc doesnt have microcode?Mar 12 09:55
Ariadnegenerally speaking not in the same sense as x86Mar 12 09:55
mateyrightMar 12 09:56
Ariadneeverything decodes instructions to granules at this pointMar 12 09:56
Ariadnebut in ARM and POWER, its basically staticMar 12 09:56
mateyim not sure when ill be able to support leahs solutions to all thisMar 12 09:56
mateybut im interested in what they say on the matterMar 12 09:56
AriadneARM and IBM just issue errata documentsMar 12 09:56
mateyand following it as it unfoldsMar 12 09:56
mateyand im pretty convinced ryf will flop anywayMar 12 09:57
mateya good idea, poorly implementedMar 12 09:57
Ariadne"on chips identifying themselves as part 0x80041376, tickle these MSRs with these values, to change X behavior"Mar 12 09:57
techrights-ipfs-bot โ–•  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: โ–„โ–…โ–‚โ–…โ–ƒโ–„โ–…โ–‡โ–…โ–„โ–„โ–„โ–…โ–„โ–‚โ–†โ–†โ–†โ–…โ–„โ–…โ–‚โ–…โ–…โ–…โ–…โ–†โ–ƒโ–†โ–…โ–†โ–†โ–ƒโ–โ–ƒโ–„โ– avg(k/sec) 23.81 โ–•  IPFS upstream: โ–โ–โ–โ–‚โ–‚โ–โ–‚โ–‚โ–โ–โ–โ–โ–โ–‚โ–โ–‚โ–‚โ–‚โ–โ–โ–ˆโ–โ–‚โ–โ–โ–โ–โ–โ–‚โ–…โ–‚โ–โ–ˆโ–โ– avg(k/sec) 38.51โ–• swarm size (avg): 276.31  โŸฒMar 12 09:58
AriadneARM world especially love these MSRsMar 12 09:58
mateyim interested in open hardware, and it seems clear we wont get there in a single "push" which is the only way fsf would accept itMar 12 09:58
Ariadnethe apple M1 chip has like 1000+ of themMar 12 09:58
Ariadneits crazyMar 12 09:58
matey1000 msrs?Mar 12 09:58
AriadneyeahMar 12 09:58
mateyughMar 12 09:58
mateyjust for the m1!Mar 12 09:58
Ariadne 12 09:59
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Ariadneits a shitshow on ARMMar 12 09:59
Ariadnethere's literallyMar 12 09:59
AriadnehundredsMar 12 09:59
Ariadnein the base specMar 12 09:59
Ariadneand then vendorsMar 12 09:59
Ariadneadd on hundreds to thousands moreMar 12 10:00
mateyim confused thoughMar 12 10:00
mateyarm is risc, and it doesnt do updates in the...Mar 12 10:00
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mateythe m1 isnt cisc is it? Mar 12 10:00
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mateyyou said there are no microcode updates for risc, right? or for non-x86 reallyMar 12 10:01
Ariadnematey: m1 does not have microcode updatesMar 12 10:01
mateyokay goodMar 12 10:01
Ariadnebut all chips have MSRsMar 12 10:01
mateygot itMar 12 10:01
Ariadnethe m1 is actuallyMar 12 10:01
Ariadnea lot more secureMar 12 10:01
Ariadnethan any of the x86 kit out thereMar 12 10:01
mateybut what are the msrs for (i dont know what they are) if theyre not for updates?Mar 12 10:01
techrights-news"US software development company EPAM is one example: It is currently trying to find ways to relocate its displaced Ukrainian devs - all 14,000 of them, Thomson adds." 12 10:01
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Ariadnewhich is why i hope asahi matures firstMar 12 10:01
mateythe "r" is for register?Mar 12 10:01
Ariadnematey: MSRs are for everythingMar 12 10:01
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Ariadnemachine state registerMar 12 10:02
mateyokayMar 12 10:02
Ariadnefor exampleMar 12 10:02
Ariadneinterrupt delivery on M1Mar 12 10:02
Ariadneis done by tickling MSRsMar 12 10:02
Ariadneon the target coreMar 12 10:02
mateymmhmmMar 12 10:02
matey/me imagines the machine code for these is insaneMar 12 10:03
techrights-newsDirk Eddelbuettel: Rcpp Hotfix release per CRAN request 12 10:03
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mateyis it harder to target them with a compiler?Mar 12 10:04
AriadnenoMar 12 10:04
mateyokay coolMar 12 10:04
techrights-news"If I am to believe various free software implementations talking to such boiler, the interpretation of the line of numbers differ between type of boiler and software version on the boiler." 12 10:04
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Ariadneeven the ARM chromebooksMar 12 10:04
Ariadneare reasonably secure and performantMar 12 10:04
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Ariadneand you can put normal linux or freebsd on themMar 12 10:05
mateywho is competing with asahi linux?Mar 12 10:05
mateyto port to m1Mar 12 10:05
AriadnecorelliumMar 12 10:05
mateyand you dont like them?Mar 12 10:05
techrights-newsOnly 3 out of 13 target Windows (this article conflates that with "PC") 12 10:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | 13 of the Best Typing Games and Apps for Everyone - Make Tech EasierMar 12 10:06
mateytheres a lawsuitMar 12 10:06
mateybetween them and appleMar 12 10:06
schestowitz-TR2copyrightsMar 12 10:06
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Apple v. Corellium Demonstrates a Clear Example of Fair Use - Public KnowledgeMar 12 10:07
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | EFF to Court: Security Research Is a Fair Use | Electronic Frontier FoundationMar 12 10:07
mateyfair use applies to copyright, not patentsMar 12 10:07
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mateyand when its a hardware design, i dont know.Mar 12 10:07
mateyit should never be a legal problem to emulate a cpu. Mar 12 10:08
mateyin a world that isnt insane, which obviously isnt this one.Mar 12 10:08
mateybut i dont know what ariandes beef with corellium is-- maybe its just they suck at something technical and asahi is better.Mar 12 10:09
mateyso its a simple preferenceMar 12 10:09
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Debian Linux with GNOME Now Runs On Apple's M1 Mac Mini - It's FOSS NewsMar 12 10:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Corellium CEO says Apple is trying to 'eliminate public jailbreaks' with latest DMCA filing - 9to5MacMar 12 10:10
mateyahh, so it is a copyright issueMar 12 10:10
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mateyvia drm and dmcaMar 12 10:10
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schestowitzApple lost. 12 10:11
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schestowitzit was an important reminder that Apple is an enemy to usMar 12 10:13
schestowitzand we should quit giving money to AppleMar 12 10:13
schestowitzit helps them abuse us and millions of foolsMar 12 10:14
schestowitzthough the latter is those fools' issueMar 12 10:14
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schestowitzthey do attack us tooMar 12 10:14
schestowitzTim Crook threatened to sue Palm when Jobs was still in chargeMar 12 10:14
schestowitzI still use PalmMar 12 10:14
mateyits a shame they bundle hardware and software like thatMar 12 10:14
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mateybut so does windowsMar 12 10:14
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Richard Stallman on Steve Jobs Death - InvidiousMar 12 10:15
schestowitzWhat he said towards the endMar 12 10:15
mateyif only antitrust law did its job, you could buy a blank mac with no osMar 12 10:15
mateynot that i would generally want one.Mar 12 10:15
techrights-newsTodayโ€™s #HowTos | #UNIX โ€ข Tux Machines โ‡จ 12 10:16
mateyonly that it would be a step forward, perhaps a small oneMar 12 10:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | today's howtos | Tux MachinesMar 12 10:16
schestowitz-TR2antitrust law would not work or not be enforcedMar 12 10:16
mateyagreedMar 12 10:16
mateyit rarely doesMar 12 10:16
schestowitz-TR2not in a country where the government it an extension of the corporationsMar 12 10:16
mateyrightMar 12 10:16
schestowitz-TR2and they steal from taxpayers to give more capital to the thievesMar 12 10:16
schestowitz-TR2which basically sums up the US in the past 1-2 decadesMar 12 10:16
mateyof courseMar 12 10:16
matey4Mar 12 10:16
mateybut more all the timeMar 12 10:17
mateymore in the past 2 im sureMar 12 10:17
schestowitz-TR2[09:05] <techrights-news> Pandemic plunder: 11 trillion more in PUBLIC DEBT. Who pockets it all? 12 10:17
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schestowitz-TR2there will be more in the next batch of Daily LinksMar 12 10:17
schestowitz-TR2buying the US government is a fraction of the aboveMar 12 10:18
schestowitz-TR2there was recently an analysis Mar 12 10:18
schestowitz-TR2you can buy the gov. for less than a billionMar 12 10:18
schestowitz-TR2Bloomberg bought Biden for a fraction of his savingsMar 12 10:18
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Who President Biden is Indebted to (e.g. Google Monopoly and the Financial Sector) | TechrightsMar 12 10:18
schestowitzBloomberg was the biggest public sponsor of BidenMar 12 10:18
schestowitz'only 57,000,000 ($)Mar 12 10:19
schestowitzhow many days does that take him to "earn" it?Mar 12 10:19
mateyno matter who you vote for you always get powerful capitalist interestsMar 12 10:19
schestowitzwith speculations on "the market"?Mar 12 10:19
schestowitzmatey: that... AND COVIDMar 12 10:20
schestowitzglad Biden stopped the pandemicMar 12 10:20
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schestowitzsoon a million deadMar 12 10:20
mateywhich brings me back to what i was saying about productsMar 12 10:20
schestowitzdon't worry, the media will find a creative way to blame that on "Trump" somehowMar 12 10:20
mateythe problem with the medical industry, is theyre treating the cure as a productMar 12 10:21
schestowitz"trump lost control... something [add something here] something... so Biden cannot do anything now"Mar 12 10:21
schestowitzBiden did not even distribute masksMar 12 10:21
mateysome things should come before that, but not as you said, in "in a country where the government it an extension of the corporations"Mar 12 10:21
schestowitzhe said something about  vaccine patent waiverMar 12 10:21
schestowitzbut nothing got doneMar 12 10:21
mateyits almost as if politicians are professional liars or somethingMar 12 10:22
schestowitzthat helps get promotedMar 12 10:22
schestowitzso it's a natural selection of sortsMar 12 10:22
schestowitzit's the same in the mediaMar 12 10:22
perfectorpoliticians are spoke persons for TPBMar 12 10:22
mateyindeedMar 12 10:22
schestowitz-TR2the power that be?Mar 12 10:23
schestowitz-TR2the pirate bay?Mar 12 10:23
mateypowers that beMar 12 10:23
mateyTPTBMar 12 10:23
mateyfor some reason i just read the second t even though it wasnt thereMar 12 10:24
perfectorthats what i meantMar 12 10:24
mateyit made senseMar 12 10:24
techrights-newsConnecting an electric typewriter to a modern computer โš“ 12 10:25
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techrights-news"We care until it's inconvenient or unpopular or expensive to care. Forgive me for feeling pessimistic about COP26." gemini:// 12 10:28
techrights-news"I've grown very fond of older tech. Me and kelbot egged each other on to get a Palm m500 and it's been pretty great!" I still have 2 Palm PDAs and use one of them. gemini:// 12 10:29
techrights-news"I picked up a Palm Ultra-Thin Keyboard which is supposed to be better than the Portable Keyboard anyways so I'll probably be writing away on my Palm soon enough." On my Palm keyboard, which was shipped from the US more than 20 years ago (a real struggle), some keys no longer work. gemini:// 12 10:30
techrights-news"with part of this being moving toward an "offline first" mode of computing, where I connect to the internet only when I need to for as long as I need to to accomplish some specific task. My primary motivation for this was to cut down on distraction and procrastination, both of which a permanent internet connection facilitates wonderfully" gemini:// 12 10:31
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techrights-news"deprecated a.out support with the promise to remove it a couple of releases later. That commit landed in v5.1. Now it is more than a couple of releases later, no one has complained so remove it." 12 10:35
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perfectorthat what you need for ircingMar 12 10:35
SomeH4x0r"deprecation" to break compatibility all the timeMar 12 10:36
schestowitz-TR2it doesMar 12 10:36
techrights-news"That idea hadnโ€™t even been listed for twenty years before it was converted into code by HexTheDragon and landed in curl the other day (with this commit). To get included in the pending curl 7.83.0 release." 12 10:37
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SomeH4x0rso that devilopers (and honest developers too) have to update stuff *all the time*, instead of writing it once and making it serve for decadesMar 12 10:37
techrights-newsDisclosure ('gift') missing 12 10:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | The Steam Deck transformed how I play games - InvidiousMar 12 10:38
SomeH4x0rabandon it for a few years, and it suddenly no longer works on a new systemMar 12 10:38
techrights-news"On Monday the Wikidata Data Reuse Days 2022 start, a series of online events from March 14 to March 24 for users of Wikidata content. Iโ€™ll present KDEโ€™s use of Wikidata in our travel apps KTrip and KDE Itinerary on Thursday March 17 at 15:00 UTC." 12 10:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | KDE Itinerary @ Wikidata Data Reuse Days 2022Mar 12 10:39
perfectoris it me or the fps on that video are like 12Mar 12 10:39
schestowitz-TR2let me checkMar 12 10:40
schestowitz-TR2just youMar 12 10:40
schestowitz-TR2it's HDMar 12 10:40
perfectoryim talking about fpdMar 12 10:40
schestowitz-TR2I always amuse myself over people who put so much emphasis on video "quality"Mar 12 10:40
perfectorfpsMar 12 10:40
schestowitz-TR2as in crisness"Mar 12 10:40
schestowitz-TR2while the video themselves are marketing/webspam shiteMar 12 10:41
schestowitz-TR2nick already got banned from gulagtubeMar 12 10:41
schestowitz-TR2for shilling lousy productsMar 12 10:41
perfectorlike youtube videos now are default to 60 fpsMar 12 10:41
schestowitz-TR2in exchange for moneyMar 12 10:41
schestowitz-TR2now he does itr for valveMar 12 10:41
schestowitz-TR2I thought about publishing a screenshotMar 12 10:41
schestowitz-TR2but in his case the valve spam was just over 50% of the wholeMar 12 10:42
schestowitz-TR2not asd bad as GardinerMar 12 10:42
perfectorway to fuck up your mobile data plan for next to no gainMar 12 10:42
schestowitz-TR2with those sites assessing video sites is not easyMar 12 10:43
perfectorarguablly the human vision cant go over 25 fpsMar 12 10:43
schestowitz-TR2not without downloading raw fileMar 12 10:43
schestowitz-TR2in techrights we typically do about 200mb/hour, depending on whether it's lots of staic screen thingMar 12 10:44
schestowitz-TR23mb/min for video and audio is not badMar 12 10:44
schestowitz"Download is disabled."Mar 12 10:44
schestowitzCannot download the adMar 12 10:44
schestowitzsucks. ;pMar 12 10:44
schestowitz"Engagement: 12.5821%"Mar 12 10:44
schestowitzThey use that termMar 12 10:44
schestowitzEngagementMar 12 10:45
schestowitzwelcome to gulagtubeMar 12 10:45
schestowitzYOU.... are the preoductMar 12 10:45
schestowitzYOUAreTheProductTubeMar 12 10:45
perfectori dont get ads on ytMar 12 10:45
perfectorso sorrryMar 12 10:45
schestowitz 12 10:46
schestowitz"Mar 12 10:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | The Steam Deck transformed how I play games - InvidiousMar 12 10:46
schestowitzGaming On LinuxMar 12 10:46
schestowitzSo great to chat to you! Would love to do it again!Mar 12 10:46
schestowitz"Mar 12 10:46
perfectorthat guy looks a bit to hold to be playing gamesMar 12 10:47
schestowitz-TR2influencers p;lay other gamesMar 12 10:48
schestowitz-TR2gaming the results in gulagtubeMar 12 10:48
schestowitz-TR2for ad moneyMar 12 10:48
perfectoron you tube the video plays fineMar 12 10:49
perfectorits something with the indivius videoMar 12 10:49
perfectorindeviduesMar 12 10:50
perfectorprobablly something with crap codecMar 12 10:51
perfectorAs of September 1st 2020, has closed down.Mar 12 10:54
perfectorTo see this content, please select another instance,Mar 12 10:54
perfectoror visit directly on YouTube.Mar 12 10:54
perfectorlolMar 12 10:54
techrights-newsroadtest: a driver testing framework 12 10:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | [RFC v1 00/10] roadtest: a driver testing framework - Vincent WhitchurchMar 12 10:57
perfectorhow do i know what drivers are in use on my distro?Mar 12 10:59
SomeH4x0rlsmod, iiucMar 12 11:04
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perfectorare they selscted at every boot?Mar 12 11:05
perfectoror at install?Mar 12 11:06
DaemonFCStallman still apparently thinks the UN is relevant.Mar 12 11:06
DaemonFCIt's turned into the League of Nations only worse.Mar 12 11:06
DaemonFCMore concerned about funding its own internal corruption than anything else.Mar 12 11:06
DaemonFCAt this point, it would be legitimate to reclaim the building in New York, disband the UN by force, and start over without Russia and China.Mar 12 11:07
perfectorthe UN is relevant. to pick up the piecesMar 12 11:07
DaemonFCRussia and China are sabotaging the mission of peace. They want to lay claim to land where millions of people live and don't want them, and never turn it back over to their local government.Mar 12 11:08
perfectorstart over without Russia and China. that would make it even more relevantMar 12 11:08
DaemonFCWhich is worse than anything the United States has done recently.Mar 12 11:08
perfectorirelevantMar 12 11:08
DaemonFCRussia wanted into NATO under Bill Clinton.Mar 12 11:09
immibisah yes, because russia and china are not nationsMar 12 11:09
DaemonFCHad that happened, they would have prevented it from functioning too.Mar 12 11:09
DaemonFCOne of the worst things the United States ever did was recognize the Communist regime in China.Mar 12 11:10
DaemonFCInstead of refusing to recognize it, laying sanctions immediately, and refusing to trade with it.Mar 12 11:10
immibisperfector: linux drivers are either compiled into the kernel, or loaded on-demand from separate files. Most of them support either mode. Which one you are actually using depends on how your distro kernel is configuredMar 12 11:10
DaemonFCAt the time of the Korean War, China committed indirect and direct hostilities towards the United States.Mar 12 11:11
DaemonFCWhich was more than ample grounds to destroy their ability to make war.Mar 12 11:11
DaemonFCYou don't have to make occupation a goal to start ruining their ability to produce munitions and their infrastructure and smack them down good and hard and keep them that way.Mar 12 11:12
DaemonFCIn fact, that's better. Most of you losses in a war come when you try to occupy, which usually fails.Mar 12 11:13
schestowitz 12 11:13
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DaemonFC*yourMar 12 11:13
schestowitzAmerecans bashing UN is a hootMar 12 11:13
schestowitzsame for China bashing Mar 12 11:13
schestowitzor Russia bashingMar 12 11:13
DaemonFCThe UN is fucking stupid at this point.Mar 12 11:13
schestowitzfor being in the UNMar 12 11:13
DaemonFCThe only thing it contributes to the US is to allow some tinpot dictators a platform and to allow a bunch of "diplomats" from shithole countries in to ignore our laws, drive drunk, and run over people in New York City.Mar 12 11:14
DaemonFCThen in return we get "dues" assessed so the UN can do what exactly?Mar 12 11:15
DaemonFCThey have no admirable goals which succeed. It's just a lot of useless talking.Mar 12 11:15
schestowitz 12 11:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Global Peace Index - WikipediaMar 12 11:15
DaemonFCSitting around blowing a bunch of hot air.Mar 12 11:15
DaemonFCWe can accomplish our diplomatic goals directly with the countries we have embassies in and do not need the UN at all.Mar 12 11:16
schestowitz 12 11:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Global Peace Index - WikipediaMar 12 11:16
DaemonFCThe only reason the US is still in the UN is to prevent it from completely being a corrupt puppet for countries without any freedom or democracy.Mar 12 11:17
schestowitzUS getting worse and worse each yearMar 12 11:17
DaemonFCNotice the key word being "any".Mar 12 11:17
schestowitzeven after BushMar 12 11:17
DaemonFCChina and Russia have NO freedom and NO democracy, at all, of any sort.Mar 12 11:17
DaemonFCAnd you get killed or sent to a gulag if you speak up against Putin or Xi.Mar 12 11:17
schestowitzUS 128thMar 12 11:17
schestowitzKSA 129thMar 12 11:17
schestowitzSaudi and US :-)Mar 12 11:18
schestowitztwinsMar 12 11:18
schestowitzIceland is always #1Mar 12 11:18
DaemonFCI have no idea how the US gets bashed like this when about 75% of the countries on Earth are less free and the two major aggressors internationally in the past two decades are Russia and China.Mar 12 11:19
schestowitzNZ in 2nd or 3rdsMar 12 11:19
DaemonFCIf there is anything like the Axis of World War II going on in this decade, it's Russia and China.Mar 12 11:19
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DaemonFCAnd they have satellite states. For Russia, it's the CIS and they've both been busy in South America.Mar 12 11:19
DaemonFCChina plans to pretty much copy the playbook of Imperial Japan from WWII.Mar 12 11:20
DaemonFCMove in, take over almost every Asian country by force, and then rape, loot, and pillage.Mar 12 11:20
DaemonFCThe risk of an invasion of Taiwan is worse now than it ever has been. Odds are high that they take advantage of the Ukraine Crisis by betting that we can box Russia in but would be far less successful trying to deal with them at the same time.Mar 12 11:21
DaemonFCBut that's not necessarily where they would start.Mar 12 11:21
techrights-news2021: "Hello from my Palm m500! Unlike last time I'm writing on an actual real Palm Ultra-Thin Keyboard rather than slowly and painfully writing out paragraphs in Graffiti." gemini:// 12 11:21
DaemonFCTaiwan is a tougher nut to crack than some places they could invade.Mar 12 11:22
DaemonFCBut what adds to the risk is that they could use the "Putin defense" that it was theirs all along anyway.Mar 12 11:22
techrights-news"If you're interested in getting a PDA, I would get one now because I think we're right on the border of them being old enough to be cool again and they'll get really expensiveโ€”right now we're still in the "they're junk so I'm giving them away for cheap" stage." gemini:// 12 11:23
DaemonFCEven though almost everyone on the island happens to disagree with that and would never willingly accept Chinese occupation. So what would necessarily happen is a decapitation of the government followed by a brutal crackdown on the public.Mar 12 11:23
DaemonFCMass arrests, public executions, etc.Mar 12 11:23
DaemonFCUntil everyone is too afraid to do anything to oppose them. This is what despots have to do to rule a place.Mar 12 11:23
techrights-news"Diop underscored that women are mainly the ones who are severely affected but stressed the "resilience of women in Africa" is not publicized well enough." 12 11:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | AU special envoy coins "woman" as soft power in politics | Daily SabahMar 12 11:24
DaemonFCThe rest of the world has grown fat and weak.Mar 12 11:24
DaemonFCIt's been so long since they were self-sufficient, there's no easy way out now.Mar 12 11:25
DaemonFCThey've lost their skills and factories to Chinese sweatshops.Mar 12 11:25
DaemonFCThey got colonized by debt.Mar 12 11:25
DaemonFCThat's what's been going wrong in the US.Mar 12 11:25
DaemonFCThe colleges here love the Chinese money and they give the Communist Party total control over their university so it keeps coming.Mar 12 11:26
DaemonFCThe Attorney General in Indiana opened an investigation into the state university system over these "Chinese cultural exchange programs" which are really just the Communist Party's way of getting in and corrupting the curriculum to spread their vile propaganda.Mar 12 11:27
techrights-newsSlackware on Calibre 5.x - I canโ€™t create a working package | Alien Pastures โš“ 12 11:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Calibre 5.x โ€“ I canโ€™t create a working package | Alien PasturesMar 12 11:27
DaemonFCschestowitz, It's so fucking stupid, like, the Immigration system in the US asks if you're a Communist and it's a bar on admission, but they let the Communists brainwash most people who go to college here. Most Americans.Mar 12 11:28
techrights-newsBloat on top of bloat on top of bloat. 12 11:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | How to Dockerize a Node.js Web App โ€“ CloudSavvy ITMar 12 11:28
schestowitz-TR2DaemonFC: you are full of BSMar 12 11:28
DaemonFCThe Communist Control Act should be enforced much harder than it currently is.Mar 12 11:28
schestowitz-TR2and it's the wrong channel for this BSMar 12 11:29
DaemonFCAnd amended to keep out the "Chinese cultural exchange" programs that are propaganda in disguise. Mar 12 11:29
DaemonFCThey should arrest college professors and administrators who let this stuff in.Mar 12 11:29
DaemonFCSend them off to prison for five years.Mar 12 11:29
schestowitz-TR2now you sound like Pol PotMar 12 11:29
DaemonFCOur prison system is better than how most people in China live.Mar 12 11:30
DaemonFCYou just never get to see what kind of hell living in China is because they're very controlling over what gets out.Mar 12 11:30
techrights-newsAstro Slide 5G Hands-On: Slider in your hand, Debian in your pocket โ€ข Tux Machines โ‡จ 12 11:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Astro Slide 5G Hands-On: Slider in your hand, Debian in your pocket | Tux MachinesMar 12 11:31
schestowitz 12 11:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | List of countries by incarceration rate - WikipediaMar 12 11:31
DaemonFCSurvivors of their work camps who manage to get out of the country describe the conditions, but the rags that pass for media in the US never offend the Communist Party.Mar 12 11:31
DaemonFCThe "re-education through hard labor" system in China never went away.Mar 12 11:31
DaemonFCIt's where they send anyone who does a web search involving "wrongthink".Mar 12 11:32
schestowitzin iceland only 120 are in prisonMar 12 11:32
DaemonFCIn Iceland they don't have a Chicago.Mar 12 11:32
schestowitzUS 2,094,000Mar 12 11:32
DaemonFCWe all know what's wrong with Chicago.Mar 12 11:32
DaemonFCLook at the news every day. There's pictures.Mar 12 11:32
DaemonFC90% of your problem. 2% of the population.Mar 12 11:33
DaemonFCYou have leftist judges letting them out on bail when they're up on murder.Mar 12 11:33
schestowitzUSA #1Mar 12 11:33
DaemonFCThen they commit more crimes on bail because those lunatics running the courts forgot why the fuck they're even there.Mar 12 11:33
schestowitzper capitaMar 12 11:33
schestowitzhigher than  El Salvadorโ€ฏMar 12 11:33
schestowitzUSA made is a for-profit industryMar 12 11:34
DaemonFCschestowitz, I'll tell you what stops recidivism when the courts break down.Mar 12 11:34
DaemonFCSmith and WessonMar 12 11:34
schestowitznot solving the issueMar 12 11:34
schestowitzto have "repat customers"Mar 12 11:34
schestowitz*repeatMar 12 11:34
schestowitzanyway, back to techMar 12 11:34
schestowitzbblMar 12 11:34
DaemonFCschestowitz, There were some thugs that figured 78 year old man on south side of Chicago in his garage minding his own business, working on his car.Mar 12 11:35
DaemonFCEasy target for a mugging, right?Mar 12 11:35
DaemonFCThey picked the wrong 78 year old man to fuck with.Mar 12 11:35
DaemonFCHe was a Conceal and Carry license holder, shot and killed both of them.Mar 12 11:35
DaemonFCTwo less criminals on the street.Mar 12 11:35
DaemonFCThe city came by and picked up the bodies.Mar 12 11:35
DaemonFCHe's alive. No telling what other crimes he prevented, against how many other people who are just trying to go about their day.Mar 12 11:36
DaemonFCThey should pin a medal on him.Mar 12 11:36
DaemonFCMost people like the two he plugged would go on to live years more, racking up hundreds of additional offenses, officially, and thousands that never get solved.Mar 12 11:37
DaemonFCWe all know when you catch someone on one crime, it means they did a hundred other things and nobody caught them.Mar 12 11:37
perfectorthey should give him a retirement plan at the state penMar 12 11:37
DaemonFCIt's not illegal to defend yourself from a crime in progress.Mar 12 11:37
perfectorkilling doesnt sound like defense to meMar 12 11:38
DaemonFCThe reason Chicago is breaking down is because the court system is so jaded that the judges slap people on the wrist over felonies.Mar 12 11:38
DaemonFCAnd then things escalate.Mar 12 11:38
DaemonFCBecause they don't send these idiots away for so long that they forget their own name by the time they get out when they carjack or rob a store at gunpoint, they graduate to murders.Mar 12 11:39
DaemonFCThere isn't a place, even in Florida, that's half as screwed up as ChicagoMar 12 11:39
DaemonFCAnd it's because Florida has a 10-20-LIFE law on gun offenses. Not gun owners. Gun offenses.Mar 12 11:40
perfectorif there wasnt guns ther woudlnt be gun offenssesMar 12 11:40
DaemonFCPeople in Chicago who our system has let go a bunch of times sometimes cross over into Indiana or Wisconsin and find a functional court system.Mar 12 11:40
DaemonFCAnd "You're fucked now, motherfucker! Hahaha! Don't drop the soap!".Mar 12 11:41
DaemonFC:)Mar 12 11:41
DaemonFCBecause they do one violent felony over there and the least they're going away for is 20 or 30 years.Mar 12 11:41
DaemonFCSomeone pulled a gun on me in Chicago, got house arrest.Mar 12 11:42
DaemonFCI was like, are you fucking kidding me.Mar 12 11:42
techrights-newsIt's amusing. There's this vegetarian alternative to meat in the fridge. It says in massive fonts, all caps, right at the front: "CARBON NEUTRAL". Greenwashing marketing for overpriced foods. Livestock is more expensive to grow than vegetables.Mar 12 11:42
DaemonFCNow with those liberal lunatics in the prosecutor's office, they wouldn't even get that.Mar 12 11:43
DaemonFCperfector, One part of Star Trek that made me laugh was when they explained that they no longer had a need for much incarceration because they figured out how to deal with the root cause of all crime.Mar 12 11:43
DaemonFCI said, "Yeah, that episode where you gave them all their own planet and they developed a feudal system with warlords. It was in Season 1.".Mar 12 11:44
immibisschestowitz: NZ may be up there in peace, but its economy is quickly sliding towards russia's or venezuela's or zimbabwe'sMar 12 11:45
DaemonFCRemember how "progressive" Star Trek was? mjg59_ said that it was very progressive in the 80s. In the 80s, there was a Season 1 episode of TNG where an entire planet full of black people had women battle each other to see who would become one of the wives of the alpha men, which meant property.Mar 12 11:46
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DaemonFCAnd the episode is inconvenient now that Hollyweirdos are supporting Burn Loot Murder.Mar 12 11:46
DaemonFCSo now there's "regrets" that it was ever filmed, says Jonathan Frakes. Mar 12 11:46
DaemonFCI'm surprised the episode is still on netflix considering that they were talking about deleting it and just never allowing anyone to watch it again.Mar 12 11:47
DaemonFCYou change history when you delete something, you know.Mar 12 11:47
DaemonFC 12 11:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Jonathan Frakes And Denise Crosby Canโ€™t See Star Trek: TNGโ€™s Racially Charged โ€œCode of Honorโ€ Playing Now โ€“ TrekMovie.comMar 12 11:48
schestowitzimmibis: I did not hear thatMar 12 11:48
schestowitzis that due to debt?Mar 12 11:48
schestowitzisolation?Mar 12 11:48
DaemonFCOf course it wouldn't. This episode portrayed black people as primitive backsavages.Mar 12 11:48
DaemonFCIt's incredibly racist, and the fact that they did it....for money, says that they had no problem with it then.Mar 12 11:48
schestowitzDaemonFC: quit provokingMar 12 11:48
DaemonFCAnd were probably forced to say they did now if they wanted to keep working in that city.Mar 12 11:48
schestowitzgo provoke your husbandMar 12 11:48
schestowitzdon't ruin this IRC networkMar 12 11:49
schestowitzimmibis: URL?Mar 12 11:49
perfectorfight club is next doorMar 12 11:49
schestowitzfwiw, nz and peace is not a good mixMar 12 11:49
DaemonFCWhat makes it even funnier is that Star Trek went worse than that.Mar 12 11:49
schestowitzNZ plays a role in dirty warsMar 12 11:49
schestowitzand then covers that upMar 12 11:49
DaemonFCIn the episode, it's stated that the planet of black people "aren't human".Mar 12 11:50
DaemonFCOops.Mar 12 11:50
schestowitz 12 11:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Nicky Hager - WikipediaMar 12 11:50
DaemonFCOh well. Thanks to the magic of streaming, you can just skip that episode and never talk about it again.Mar 12 11:50
DaemonFCOf course there's all those DVDs out there, and pirates....Mar 12 11:50
DaemonFCAnd it's on Blu Ray, remastered.Mar 12 11:50
schestowitz"Hager is an investigative journalist who has written seven books. As of July 2019, the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists (ICIJ), an international network that has 249 investigative reporters in over 90 countries, has Hager as one of only two New Zealand members"Mar 12 11:51
DaemonFCThey spent a million dollars just remastering that episode.Mar 12 11:51
schestowitz"Secret Power: New Zealand's Role in the International Spy Network, published in 1996, was Hager's first book."Mar 12 11:51
perfectorthat why in the usa now days there is not humans aren't a species they are a race nowMar 12 11:51
schestowitz"As a result, the insights into the inner workings of the GCSB provide information about the allied agencies as well. In particular, Hager documented the US-coordinated ECHELON system, through which the five agencies intercept and process huge volumes of international e-mail, fax and telephone communications. Hager was one of the earliest to write about the secretive ECHELON worldwide electronic spy network. As a result of his book, in 2001 he Mar 12 11:51
schestowitztestified before the European Parliament on his research into the network"Mar 12 11:51
perfectorthey say human raceMar 12 11:51
DaemonFCThere's extremely racist overtones, and undertones, in that episode.Mar 12 11:51
perfectorhow retarded can it beMar 12 11:51
DaemonFCAnd now that Star Trek has been sexist, racist, openly homophobic, for decades on end....Mar 12 11:52
schestowitzhis work is very imporantMar 12 11:52
DaemonFCThey are overcompensating badly in their new shows.Mar 12 11:52
schestowitzso of course he got raised like Kim Scmitz/DotcomMar 12 11:52
schestowitz*SchMar 12 11:52
perfectorDaemonFC stop floddingMar 12 11:52
schestowitz*raidedMar 12 11:52
schestowitzNZ "peace": "In March 2017, Hager and fellow journalist Jon Stephenson published Hit & Run: The New Zealand SAS in Afghanistan and the meaning of honour. The book explored the New Zealand Special Air Service's involvement in Operation Burnham, a retaliatory military raid on two Afghan villages, Naik and Khak Khuday Dad, in Afghanistan's Tirgiran Valley in August 2010."Mar 12 11:53
schestowitz"Following the formation of a new Labour-New Zealand First-Greens coalition government after the 2017 general election, Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern and Defence Minister Ron Mark announced in early November that they would hold an inquiry into the allegations raised by Hit & Run"Mar 12 11:53
perfector~they also had a black woman part of the crew in startrekMar 12 11:53
DaemonFCThe truth is that people in liberal cities who want to keep their jobs figure out "the right thing to say" and the "right boxes to tick" to stay employed, and that's that. I'm sure if we had someone reading out Mr. Gulag's inner monologue, it would be very entertaining.Mar 12 11:53
schestowitz"In mid-June 2018, Hager accepted an apology and compensation for "substantial damages" from the New Zealand Police for raiding his home in 2014 as part of their investigation into the hacking that led to the Dirty Politics book. The Police also acknowledged accessing his financial records as part of the apology settlement.[20][21][22]"Mar 12 11:53
schestowitzWikileaks could relate on numerous levelMar 12 11:54
schestowitz1)it was retrobutionMar 12 11:54
schestowitz2) it was unjustMar 12 11:54
DaemonFCIt's not just race. They have to figure out how to be environmentalists too, while trashing the planet with Teslas.Mar 12 11:54
schestowitz3) it covered up for the actual criminalsMar 12 11:54
schestowitz4) attack on freedom of the pressMar 12 11:54
schestowitzDaemonFC: quit aggressing peopleMar 12 11:55
schestowitzit's not the placeMar 12 11:55
schestowitz 12 11:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Nicky Hager - WikipediaMar 12 11:55
DaemonFCYou know, for the right price you can make gasoline or something compatible out of almost anything, including by pulling hydrocarbons out of the air.Mar 12 11:55
DaemonFCPeople just don't give a shit. They really don't.Mar 12 11:56
SomeH4x0rsend proper direct linksMar 12 11:56
SomeH4x0rnot this JS-dependentMar 12 11:56
SomeH4x0r 12 11:57
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DaemonFCI don't think people who live in ivory towers really get how dumb the average person is. I tried to go eat Christmas dinner at a restaurant with my spouse and 4 adults got into a food fight.Mar 12 11:57
techrights-ipfs-bot โ–•  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: โ–†โ–…โ–…โ–ƒโ–„โ–…โ–ƒโ–„โ–ƒโ–‡โ–‚โ–†โ–ƒโ–„โ–โ–…โ–ƒโ–ƒโ–…โ–†โ–‚โ–ƒโ–‚โ–ƒโ–…โ–โ–„โ–„โ–†โ–‚โ–‡โ–…โ–‚โ–…โ– avg(k/sec) 21.13 โ–•  IPFS upstream: โ–‚โ–โ–โ–โ–‚โ–โ–‚โ–โ–โ–‚โ–โ–โ–‚โ–โ–ˆโ–โ–ˆโ–โ–โ–โ–โ–โ–โ–ˆโ–โ–โ–‚โ–ˆโ–‚โ–โ–โ–โ– avg(k/sec) 57.15โ–• swarm size (avg): 276.33  โŸฒMar 12 11:58
DaemonFCI don't know if that's fallout from the coal plant landing on people here or what. But it seems to be the average for people in this area.Mar 12 11:58
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DaemonFCRemember that movie Dawn of the Dead where the guy says when Hell is full, the dead will walk the Earth?Mar 12 11:59
schestowitz-TR2SomeH4x0r: yes, they handle iomage weirdlyMar 12 11:59
DaemonFCThat's what's going on in Illinois involving criminals and the penal system.Mar 12 11:59
schestowitz-TR2also makes them hard to downloadMar 12 11:59
schestowitz-TR2maybe by intentionMar 12 11:59
perfectorHell is full, the dead will walk the Earth? thats from the sripturesMar 12 11:59
perfectorits rapture thingMar 12 12:00
DaemonFCYes, my mother thinks cans of creamed corn under the bed will be useful then. Like her mother did.Mar 12 12:00
DaemonFCAll bloated up because nobody ever ate it.Mar 12 12:01
DaemonFCWhile food prices soar and you have crazy people sleeping on thousands of swollen cans of expired food. Mar 12 12:01
DaemonFCThe price of rice is up like 58% since 2020.Mar 12 12:02
DaemonFCIt's pretty clear that they're doing this because they can, and pretty much no other reason than that even registers.Mar 12 12:02
DaemonFCCalifornia keeps fucking things up, well beyond the borders of their state.Mar 12 12:03
perfectorthey're doing this because they canMar 12 12:03
DaemonFCThey pass cage free egg laws, you pay 30% more for eggs in the entire country.Mar 12 12:03
perfectori see what you did thereMar 12 12:03
DaemonFCMr. Gulag deserves to be egged, twice. Once for being from California. Again for being from Ireland.Mar 12 12:04
DaemonFCExcept you can't afford eggs to do it with now because of California.Mar 12 12:04
DaemonFCI wish someone would sue California about the eggs and bacon laws.Mar 12 12:06
DaemonFCThey're fucking up the national economy, which means that they've stepped over the line.Mar 12 12:06
perfectorare you copy pasting all this DaemonFC?Mar 12 12:06
DaemonFCNo, just tired of this shit. Someone in California has a bad idea and we all have to suffer because they're there.Mar 12 12:07
perfectorcalifornia ubber allesMar 12 12:07
perfectorrussia is talking about bioagentsMar 12 12:09
perfectorthat could affect al europeMar 12 12:10
schestowitz-TR2url?/Mar 12 12:11
schestowitz-TR2the media is full of BVSMar 12 12:11
schestowitz-TR2unreadableMar 12 12:11
schestowitz-TR2no humans, no "economy"Mar 12 12:12
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schestowitz-TR2wow, they run advanced ddos protection nowMar 12 12:13
schestowitz-TR2RTMar 12 12:13
schestowitz"Mar 12 12:13
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schestowitzThe connection was reset.Mar 12 12:13
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XRevan86perfector: It's shocking that biolabs exist.Mar 12 12:14
XRevan86All scientists are sorcerers and very scary.Mar 12 12:15
schestowitz-TR2cranks do tooMar 12 12:15
schestowitz-TR2and in recent years it was popular a view that such labs were "bioweapons"Mar 12 12:15
schestowitz-TR2made to induce extermination en masseMar 12 12:15
schestowitz-TR2so russian propaganda latched on to thisMar 12 12:15
schestowitz-TR2"OMG! Ukraine has labs with biologists!!!"Mar 12 12:16
XRevan86Unfortunately it's not just propaganda, Russia is using this rhetoric officially.Mar 12 12:16
schestowitz-TR2yes, I am awareMar 12 12:16
XRevan86The bar is *this low* now.Mar 12 12:16
schestowitz-TR2like it was some US plot to attack RussiaMar 12 12:16
schestowitz-TR2heck, why do this in ukraine?Mar 12 12:16
schestowitz-TR2the US could do it domestically and then export itMar 12 12:16
schestowitz-TR2so that doesn't add upMar 12 12:16
schestowitz-TR2smell testMar 12 12:17
XRevan86schestowitz: Russia's also talking about ethnical weapons.Mar 12 12:17
schestowitz-TR2Russia as in the nregimeMar 12 12:17
schestowitz-TR2I bet many Russians are LOLing at itMar 12 12:17
XRevan86yeaMar 12 12:17
schestowitz-TR2or staying quietMar 12 12:17
schestowitz-TR2not a good time to be "unpatriotic"Mar 12 12:17
DaemonFC"Saddam Hussein has WMDs. We need to stop him before there's a mushroom cloud."Mar 12 12:18
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schestowitz-TR2if they believed it, putin would not be blocking so much of the NetMar 12 12:18
schestowitz-TR2btw, XRevan86, before I quit TwitterMar 12 12:19
schestowitz-TR28 days agoMar 12 12:19
schestowitz-TR2I gor some of this Russia BS in my notificationsMar 12 12:19
schestowitz-TR2people pushing this through the social control media giantMar 12 12:19
schestowitz-TR2Twitter is a cesspoolMar 12 12:20
schestowitz-TR2and it's worse than a waste of timeMar 12 12:20
schestowitz-TR2it's actively harmfulMar 12 12:20
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schestowitz-TR2I partioned myself off Twitter for yearsMar 12 12:21
schestowitz-TR2like put out of the browser outside the screenMar 12 12:21
schestowitz-TR2to avoid Twitter putting the BS on the sidebar in viewMar 12 12:21
schestowitz-TR2in the past I wrote special rules of qupzilla to do thisMar 12 12:21
schestowitz-TR2but then they started to shove it alternqativelyMar 12 12:21
schestowitz-TR2ads in timelines, searches and cracks in your notificationsMar 12 12:22
schestowitz-TR2which are not filtered notificationsMar 12 12:22
schestowitz-TR2BTW, twitter should have notification filters like in diaspora and mindsMar 12 12:22
schestowitz-TR2where you can narrow it down to replies onlyMar 12 12:22
schestowitz-TR2it has only two moduesMar 12 12:22
schestowitz-TR2mentions/allMar 12 12:22
schestowitz-TR2any crack can mention anyoneMar 12 12:23
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DaemonFC"The far right complains after the search engine DuckDuckGo vows to limit Russian propaganda."Mar 12 12:27
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DaemonFC"DuckDuckGo controls about 3 percent of the search engine market in the United States."Mar 12 12:29
DaemonFCIt doesn't control anything. It rebrands Microsoft.Mar 12 12:30
DaemonFC 12 12:31
DaemonFCJoe Rogan recommended DuckDuckGo to anti-vaxxers.Mar 12 12:31
activelowddg seems ok, with particular security measures in place i prefer it over googleMar 12 12:32
DaemonFC"Right-wing influencers" recommending DuckDuckGo.Mar 12 12:32
DaemonFCThey were obviously paying money for that.Mar 12 12:32
DaemonFCThey give Rogan money, he recommends them to nutcases.Mar 12 12:32
activelowwithout some of those additional security measures i wouldn't touch neither ddg nor googleMar 12 12:32
activelowno-javascript, and VPNMar 12 12:32
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XRevan86schestowitz: I'd expect Twitter to actually do something about it.Mar 12 12:37
activelowand whoever this "far-right" was supposed to be, i am only aware of the fact RT satellite tv broadcasting was cut-off in Europe/Germany, before olympic games alreadyMar 12 12:37
XRevan86Even DDG is demoting major Russian propaganda websites.Mar 12 12:37
XRevan86Seems redundant considering that it sources its results from Bing. But maybe it's because for Russian it sources from Yandex.Mar 12 12:37
XRevan86Although in that case it would've made more sense to ditch Yandex.Mar 12 12:38
XRevan86Yandex is not happy about what's happening, but it is collaborating.Mar 12 12:39
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immibis an interesting idea for censorship evasion - make it impossible to figure out who is actually guiltyMar 12 12:39
DaemonFC$70 for a 6 mile Uber ride wasn't enough?Mar 12 12:40
DaemonFCIt's already twice as expensive as calling a taxi.Mar 12 12:40 fails with netsurf browser... ddg works flawlessMar 12 12:41
DaemonFCschestowitz-TR2, Back when Uber and Lyft were content to lose money on every ride to gain marketshare, a guy I know named Evan was using Lyft to get to work every day.Mar 12 12:41
DaemonFCShit kept happening, like one Lyft driver even got on the freeway going the wrong direction.Mar 12 12:41
activelownope, seems yandex blocks VPN only, with a captcha; which is reason enough to refrain given ddg existsMar 12 12:42
DaemonFCBrowsing with a VPN gets a bit weird sometimes, not as bad as trying to use Tor though.Mar 12 12:43
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activelowanyway, i have another "theory" concerning corn/wheat/maize prices: "bio" ethane fuel, E10 petrolMar 12 12:45
activelowgiven the fact, both the ukraine and russian pipelines continued operation at 100%; i do not know what the "bio" ethane was produced fromMar 12 12:46
activelowyet, ukraine/belarus/russia are the main exporters of corn/wheat/maizeMar 12 12:47
activelowofficially "EU" produces 100% of corn/wheat/maize domestically; however, E10 petrol is importedMar 12 12:53
activelowthe E10 "bio" ethane fuel was introduced by, "Alliance90/greens" "pacifists", 20 years ago, when they hijacked government, with yugo war followingMar 12 12:54
activelowthen, Iraq war 2004, then they were kicked out of government;Mar 12 12:55
activelow20 years later, those hijacked government again, few days later: warMar 12 12:55
activelowas far as "right-wing" was concerned, who are the followers of the "social ecological justice" "green new deal" then?Mar 12 12:56
DaemonFCE10 in the US being mandated massively increased food prices.Mar 12 12:59
activelowin parallel, Chinese government, seems slightly worried too, wherever Russian/Ukraine/White-Russian corn/wheat/maize is imported/exportedMar 12 12:59
DaemonFCIt's designed to drive up demand for corn. It makes no sense as an energy policy.Mar 12 12:59
DaemonFCYou get about 70% as far per gallon of ethanol vs gasoline but the total carbon emissions are actually higher than burning straight up gasoline if you account for the energy consumption for growing and processing corn into alcohol and then transporting it to be blended.Mar 12 13:00
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schestowitz-TR2activelow: congrats on using microsoft for your search :-DMar 12 13:00
schestowitz-TR2stay around for the "Linux" resultsMar 12 13:00
DaemonFCThe whole idea of cutting the gas with it is because alcohol is extremely corrosive and ruins engines and fuel systems.Mar 12 13:00
DaemonFCEspecially the rubber and plastic bits.Mar 12 13:00
schestowitz-TR2DDG = Microsoft Bing 'skin'Mar 12 13:01
DaemonFCYou have to have a special "hardened" fuel system to handle higher blends than about 15% ethanol without ruining your car.Mar 12 13:01
bnchs__schestowitz-TR2, ddg is server-side proprietaryMar 12 13:04
bnchs__i wouldn't mind that if they didn't say at all that they outsource their index to bingMar 12 13:05
activelowDDG uses various content clusters for their results, including Bing, Yahoo, and others; and quality of DDG seems ok.; no advertisementsMar 12 13:05
bnchs__just wait until you search some kind of C or POSIX functionMar 12 13:06
bnchs__it will favor microsoft up on the topMar 12 13:06
activelow"POSIX read()" returns the man pages/doc from all major vendors; no biasMar 12 13:07
immibisDaemonFC: is that accounting for the CO2 removed by growing corn?Mar 12 13:07
bnchs__ 12 13:08
bnchs__microsoft on topMar 12 13:08
bnchs__first result is microsoftMar 12 13:08
bnchs__and then IBMMar 12 13:08
immibisbnchs__: not really unusual, windows IS the largest used desktop operating system. It's not clear-cut whether you'd expect it to return Linux or Windows resultsMar 12 13:08
immibisGoogle will learn that your preference is one or the other; DDG should not.Mar 12 13:08
immibispersonalized search results are often actually betterMar 12 13:08
bnchs__activelow, heres also the results for "posix read"Mar 12 13:09
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bnchs__first result is also microsoftMar 12 13:09
bnchs__immibis: yes i knowMar 12 13:09
immibisDaemonFC: regardless of what you think about ethanol, oil has to go away. You are free to choose electric car, electric/normal bike or public transportMar 12 13:09
DaemonFCNo thanks.Mar 12 13:10
immibisthe problem is not the fact that driving emits CO2; it's the fact that driving emits CO2 that wasn't in the atmosphere for millions of years. When you burn plants it's relatively okay, because you're just putting back what you already took out.Mar 12 13:10
DaemonFCYou never break even on those things.Mar 12 13:10
immibiswhat does "break even" mean? financially?Mar 12 13:10
immibisbecause yes, the financial system is mega-fucked and it doesn't actually allocate resources the way it's meant toMar 12 13:11
DaemonFCThe electric cars are basically twice as expensive as a normal car, then you have a battery system to replace when it fails, and then all sorts of extra computers and sensors, and regenerative braking parts.Mar 12 13:11
DaemonFCA brake job isn't the cost of pads and maybe rotors anymore.Mar 12 13:11
bnchs__immibis: but there's no difference between microsoft's implementation of inet_pton and other OSes's implementation of inet_ptonMar 12 13:11
immibisDaemonFC: I gave you three other suggestionsMar 12 13:11
DaemonFCIt's just a nightmare to service.Mar 12 13:11
DaemonFCThen there's nowhere to plug them in at.Mar 12 13:11
bnchs__other than windows having a different header nameMar 12 13:11
immibisbnchs__: in general there is a significant difference between windows and posix. Windows doesn't implement POSIX - just imitates it to reduce frictionMar 12 13:11
DaemonFCI live in an apartment complex that went up in the 1970s.Mar 12 13:12
activelowbnchs__: i cannot confirm there was any bias introduced by DDG; since ms and IBM/RedHat are major vendors, and neutral linux results are highly rankedMar 12 13:12
DaemonFCSo not only can I not plug the car in anywhere here, there's no supercharging stations for 50 miles in any direction.Mar 12 13:12
immibisdid you know that before electric cars were mainstream, enthusiasts were doing their own electric conversions with lead-acid?Mar 12 13:12
activelowbtw. techrights itself was higher ranked with DDG than with google, last time i checkedMar 12 13:12
immibisfun fact.Mar 12 13:12
bnchs__i search alot of function names for documentationMar 12 13:12
DaemonFCIt would be impossible to charge the car even if I could afford one.Mar 12 13:12
bnchs__it always ranks up microsoftMar 12 13:12
DaemonFCAnd their range gets cut in half by cold weather.Mar 12 13:13
bnchs__"windows IS the largest used desktop operating system" means that DDG has biased the results towards microsoftMar 12 13:13
DaemonFCWhich is half the year here. They DO NOT RESPOND WELL to cold weather.Mar 12 13:13
immibisDaemonFC: I gave you three other suggestions, and that's just on an individual level. The fact is that eliminating oil dependency is going to be painful one way or another. You get to choose your pain, but no pain is not an option.Mar 12 13:13
DaemonFCAnd winter-type weather goes on from November to April.Mar 12 13:13
DaemonFCSo even if I could afford an EV, and had somewhere to charge it, it would waste half its energy for 6 months and there'd just be no range.Mar 12 13:14
DaemonFCThat 300-400 miles Elon Musk talks about is really 150-200 miles in Chicago half the year.Mar 12 13:14
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DaemonFCI could get that far in an Impala on half a tank of gas.Mar 12 13:14
immibisHow is your apartment building managed? Can you bring up a resolution to install a charger? Or do you live under one of those freeloading property investment oligarchs?Mar 12 13:15
DaemonFCWhy would I install a charger somewhere where I'll probably live for a few years, at most?Mar 12 13:15
immibisAre you ever going to address the three other options?Mar 12 13:15
DaemonFCPeople move every 2-3 years on average.Mar 12 13:15
immibisWell, because it would be useful for you, and is not terribly expensive. You might not be aware that your average non-super charger is just a fancy wall outlet with a chip that tells the car how much power is available.Mar 12 13:16
DaemonFCOne reason why few bother with buying a house on contract from a bank is that the average American needs to move 10 times before one mortgage would be paid off.Mar 12 13:16
DaemonFCSo it makes no sense.Mar 12 13:16
DaemonFCYou have no equity at all for about 5-6 years. It's just interest payments.Mar 12 13:16
immibisIf you live in an apartment you probably live in a denser area where public transport or biking are viable. Why do you completely ignore those things even though I already mentioned them several times?Mar 12 13:16
DaemonFCBecause the bus doesn't run until 4 hours after my spouse needs to be at work.Mar 12 13:17
immibisI heard Chicago. That's apparently one of America's more no-car-friendly cities.Mar 12 13:17
DaemonFCAnd it takes 2 hours to get where I could go in 10 minutes in the car.Mar 12 13:17
DaemonFCI'ts 47 stops from here to Walmart and most of that is turning around and going in the wrong direction.Mar 12 13:17
DaemonFCAnd to get on that bus, you also need to walk 20 minutes on top of that.Mar 12 13:18
immibisHow far is Walmart? 10 minutes by car, including 2 minutes parking?Mar 12 13:18
DaemonFCPlus, it's not running at 4 AM.Mar 12 13:18
DaemonFCThen you get everything from public masturbators to muggers on the bus.Mar 12 13:18
DaemonFCPlus, they're a petri dish. Want to get COVID? Cram in there!Mar 12 13:19
immibisyour country is stuck in this metastable failure state where the bus is something low-class criminals use. Where I've lived, it's a thing that's available for everyone.Mar 12 13:19
immibisThe same forces that make COVID so popular are also the forces that make your city's bus system crappy and unpopularMar 12 13:19
DaemonFCIn the city of Chicago it's not just low class criminals, although they like public transit.Mar 12 13:19
DaemonFCThey can get on it and rob everyone in a train car before the next stop.Mar 12 13:20
DaemonFCThen get back off and the cops never solve it.Mar 12 13:20
DaemonFCBut in the suburbs, we have Pace, which is even more ghetto than the CTA somehow.Mar 12 13:20
DaemonFCAnd it's more like "the bus" in Indianapolis.Mar 12 13:20
DaemonFCYou know. Comes by every hour or two, picks up the bums.Mar 12 13:21
DaemonFCIt's so unworkable that it's basically a government jobs program that pollutes more than the bus is worth.Mar 12 13:21
immibisMaybe neoliberal capitalism is telling you to start some kind of collective riding arrangement yourself (like a bus)Mar 12 13:21
DaemonFCI hardly ever see any Pace buses with more than maybe 4-5 people on them.Mar 12 13:21
immibisin Berlin, Germany the buses and trains run every 5 minutes, 10 on the outskirts.Mar 12 13:21
DaemonFCIn a bus that has dozens of seats.Mar 12 13:22
immibisand they are full of just about everyoneMar 12 13:22
DaemonFCYOu can't have anything nice here.Mar 12 13:22
immibisin some places in the world it's every 2 minutesMar 12 13:22
DaemonFCAnd Roy would tell me to stifle myself if I said why.Mar 12 13:22
immibiswould the reason be a deranged rant about the left? non-binary fuss about woke skies?Mar 12 13:22
DaemonFCFollow WGN Chicago and read all the crime stories. ABC 7 too.Mar 12 13:22
DaemonFCYou'll start to get the picture.Mar 12 13:23
DaemonFCNow magnify that by about 1,000 times to get all the stuff they don't run.Mar 12 13:23
immibisoh so I guess your reason would be black people. What is it with you and black people? Despite holding a left position on almost every other topic?Mar 12 13:23
DaemonFCI'll go dig up some samples.Mar 12 13:23
immibisThe causes of crime are not as simple as "black people" any more than the Ukraine massacre is "Russian people"Mar 12 13:23
immibisthe causes of the Ukraine massacre are not even "Vladimir Putin" (though he is a lynchpin)Mar 12 13:24
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immibisit's never as simple as it seems. it's always complex and intertwined.Mar 12 13:24
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immibisthe reason why americans can't have nice things is that someone stole cars?Mar 12 13:25
DaemonFCDrugs, beating kids to death, attacking Child Protective Service workers, toting machine guns around....Mar 12 13:25
immibisand why do people do those things?Mar 12 13:26
DaemonFCMuggings, lootings, entire city on fire.Mar 12 13:26
immibisis it because they are genetically inferior, or is it something to do with American culture?Mar 12 13:26
DaemonFCBecause they're degenerates and losers who don't want to get a job.Mar 12 13:26
immibiswhy are they degenerates and losers who don't want to get a job? Mar 12 13:27
DaemonFCBut at least the white degenerates and losers who don't want to get a job mind their own business, even when they're in a criminal enterprise.Mar 12 13:27
DaemonFCLike, white drug dealers quietly deal drugs.Mar 12 13:27
DaemonFCThey don't go spraying down the neighborhood with bullets on their way to molest a kid.Mar 12 13:27
DaemonFCUsually.Mar 12 13:27
DaemonFCI mean, they're polite criminals.Mar 12 13:27
DaemonFCYou don't mess with them, they don't mess with you.Mar 12 13:28
DaemonFCThe town I lived in in Indiana, we had white drug dealers. I walked around at 2-3 AM with $2,000 in my pocket, nothing happened.Mar 12 13:28
immibispretty fair. Drugs should be legal anyway.Mar 12 13:28
DaemonFCNothing ever happens, because they just deal drugs. They don't want to hurt you.Mar 12 13:28
immibisWhat is the underlying reason that white criminals are different from non-white criminals?Mar 12 13:28
DaemonFCBecause white criminals are more likely to be smart enough to realize that when you're committing felonies you don't want to get pinched for something stupid and then get rumbled on your main enterprise too.Mar 12 13:29
DaemonFCLike, when you're dealing a bunch of drugs, don't rob some guy with a handgun for $100 and a used Android phone.Mar 12 13:30
immibisDaemonFC: You're just writing off any possible reason as them being stupid. You don't even care to think about what the actual reasons could be.Mar 12 13:30
immibisStupid people don't commit murder. They sit around with their mouth open and drool spilling out.Mar 12 13:30
DaemonFCStupid people commit murder all the time.Mar 12 13:30
DaemonFC:)Mar 12 13:30
immibisOnly if you redefine stupidMar 12 13:30
DaemonFCSmarter people figure out ways to avoid committing murder or how to do it only when necessary and hide it so it's unlikely to be solved.Mar 12 13:31
immibisDaemonFC: People don't commit murder for no reason, either.Mar 12 13:31
DaemonFCEvery black murderer I've seen on the local news has been a story like "Black guy dumps pregnant girlfriend into lake. Girlfriend floats across lake and washes up in Waukegan.".Mar 12 13:32
immibis"Smarter people" have reasons why they shouldn't, which outweigh any reasons why they should. Why are those former reasons missing in the case of the "stupid people" who do commit murder?Mar 12 13:32
DaemonFCOr "Black mother kills son then panics, burns the body, and dumps it in Gary, Indiana.".Mar 12 13:32
DaemonFCI mean, this is just in the last couple months.Mar 12 13:33
immibisCould it possibly be because the law inevitably fucks over black people anyway? So they don't have an alternative way to resolve disputes AND if they're going to jail it might as well be for a good reason?Mar 12 13:33
immibisLike the Ukrainian citizens (prior to the war) who went diving inside Chernobyl using an upside-down aquarium and a bike pump.Mar 12 13:33
DaemonFCWhat kind of a sick monster do you have to be to abuse your child to death then burn the body, strip it naked, and dump it in another state?Mar 12 13:33
DaemonFCThen go to the police and say he's missing and you don't know what happened....Mar 12 13:34
immibisI figure their country probably hasn't yet developed to the point where human life is stable, so if they may die at any moment anyway, they may as well die trying to get youtube views.Mar 12 13:34
DaemonFCDisregard the stupid for a minute, and focus on how much of a sick asshole this woman must be.Mar 12 13:34
immibisDaemonFC: Why did she kill her son?Mar 12 13:35
DaemonFCAnd then you have the libtards going "It's because she was marginalized something something air pollution.".Mar 12 13:35
immibisYou have the conservatards going "it's because black people are genetically inferior"Mar 12 13:35
DaemonFCThey should bring back the electric chair.Mar 12 13:35
DaemonFCPut her in the front of the line.Mar 12 13:35
immibisDaemonFC: Why did she kill her son?Mar 12 13:35
DaemonFCThere's a bill in the legislature to bring back death by electrocution.Mar 12 13:35
DaemonFCI filed a witness slip supporting it.Mar 12 13:36
immibisDaemonFC: Why did she kill her son?Mar 12 13:36
DaemonFCWho cares? Fry her as a warning to others.Mar 12 13:36
DaemonFCQuit trying to find an excuse for her. There isn't one.Mar 12 13:36
immibisYou cannot fix problems by punishing people. If we know why she killed her son, we can prevent other people from experiencing that same reason.Mar 12 13:36
immibisYou cannot fix society by sticking people between rocks and hard places.Mar 12 13:36
DaemonFCJohn Wayne Gacy got solved permanently.Mar 12 13:37
DaemonFCIn Illinois, with the electric chair.Mar 12 13:37
DaemonFCIt'll solve this woman too if they bring it back.Mar 12 13:37
immibisIf there is some invisible (to you) force causing her to have to sacrifice her son, and you propose to upgrade it so they both die, THAT IS NOT AN IMPROVEMENT.Mar 12 13:37
DaemonFCThere's a lot of people floating around that have no right to live because they gave it up.Mar 12 13:38
DaemonFCLife isn't just a right, it's a responsibility.Mar 12 13:38
DaemonFCAnd not everyone deserves the right to go on living if they behave in a certain manner.Mar 12 13:38
immibisDaemonFC: Did she have access to abortion in case she was not ready to accept the responsibility?Mar 12 13:38
DaemonFCIllinois is the most liberal state this side of the country.Mar 12 13:38
DaemonFCThe only way you'd get more access to abortion is if Pritzker paid you to have one.Mar 12 13:38
DaemonFCSo don't even go there.Mar 12 13:39
DaemonFCThese people are STUPID with a capital STUPID.Mar 12 13:39
immibisDo you agree that if there's some situation where Alice has to choose between killing both Alice and Bob, or just Bob, then if you also execute Alice, it solves absolutely nothing and makes the world worse?Mar 12 13:39
DaemonFCThey aren't thinking, so they get pregnant. They don't bother getting an abortion, so they have kids.Mar 12 13:39
DaemonFCThen they don't plan to work and feed their kids, so they go on welfare.Mar 12 13:39
DaemonFCThen they still aren't fit and the state fails to take the kids away, and the kid ends up dead from abuse.Mar 12 13:40
DaemonFC<immibis> Do you agree that if there's some situation where Alice has to choose between killing both Alice and Bob, or just Bob, then if you also execute Alice, it solves absolutely nothing and makes the world worse?Mar 12 13:40
DaemonFCIf you kill the murderer, they don't get out and kill again.Mar 12 13:40
DaemonFCThey also don't get to live indefinitely in prison costing taxpayers $90,000 a year every year they're there.Mar 12 13:41
DaemonFCMost of these people go in, and they're not healthy people.Mar 12 13:41
DaemonFCThey have diabetes, AIDS, Syphilis, Hepatitis C.Mar 12 13:41
DaemonFCThe state has to pay to treat all of their diseases, along with feeding, clothing, and housing them.Mar 12 13:42
DaemonFCAnd she's in there for murdering her 6 year old, setting him on fire, stripping him, and dumping him in Indiana.Mar 12 13:42
DaemonFCAnd she could live for 50 years in prison costing us $6-7 million total.Mar 12 13:42
DaemonFCOr we could just execute her. ComEd charges 12 cents per kilowatt hour.Mar 12 13:43
DaemonFCWhatever that comes out to.Mar 12 13:43
DaemonFCNot to mention the liberal parole board that could let her out, declare her cured, and then she absconds and kills again.Mar 12 13:43
DaemonFCIt wouldn't be the first time.Mar 12 13:44
immibisDaemonFC: It was a yes or no question.Mar 12 13:44
DaemonFCThis isn't about revenge.Mar 12 13:44
DaemonFCThis is abour ridding society of someone who has forfeited their rights to ever live at the sufferance of civilized people again.Mar 12 13:44
immibisTIL that choosing the least bad option means you forfeit your right to live. DO YOU HEAR YOURSELF RIGHT NOW??? (assuming you're still talking about Alice and Bob)Mar 12 13:45
DaemonFCUncivilized societies that want to be bogged down with more crime than they have now get rid of the death sentence and then parole people like her.Mar 12 13:45
DaemonFCSince Illinois repealed the death sentence, violent crime went up by 300% statewide, mostly centered on Chicago.Mar 12 13:46
DaemonFCWe didn't repeal it and magically turn into Canada.Mar 12 13:46
immibisDaemonFC: Was the answer to the Alice and Bob question "yes" or "no"?Mar 12 13:47
DaemonFCNot all homicide is murder.Mar 12 13:47
DaemonFCThere's a legal definition of murder.Mar 12 13:47
DaemonFCExtenuating circumstances are accounted for by law.Mar 12 13:48
immibisNo, they aren't. Especially if the defendant is black.Mar 12 13:48
immibisDouble especially if the circumstance is systemic.Mar 12 13:48
DaemonFCFor example, if it was an accident, or you did it without planning to, you'll be shown lenience.Mar 12 13:48
DaemonFCMost people who commit first degree murder aren't even sentenced for it.Mar 12 13:48
DaemonFCThey take a plea deal to manslaughter. Mar 12 13:48
immibisI'm talking about a situation where Alice makes a cool-headed, calculating decision to stab Bob through the heart with a rusty knife.Mar 12 13:48
DaemonFCAnd killing someone in self-defense isn't a crime.Mar 12 13:49
immibisAlice doesn't kill Bob by accidentMar 12 13:49
DaemonFCWell, then it's either first or second degree murder.Mar 12 13:50
DaemonFCIt depends on how much planning there was.Mar 12 13:50
DaemonFCLike, if you walk in and your wife is fucking some other guy and you get pissed and shoot them both, that's second degree murder.Mar 12 13:50
DaemonFCYou didn't plan it for weeks. There was no conspiracy.Mar 12 13:50
immibisLet's say she sat down with a stack of grid paper for a week and the calculations say if she doesn't kill Bob by tomorrow, they'll both die. For some reason. Magic, idk.Mar 12 13:51
immibisAnd that calculation is completely accurate.Mar 12 13:51
immibisThe question was: Do you agree that if there's some situation where Alice has to choose between killing both Alice and Bob, or just Bob, then if you also execute Alice, it solves absolutely nothing and makes the world worse?Mar 12 13:51
DaemonFCMurder is a crime against the state, so technically you could be charged for it if the other person wasn't threatening you with death or great bodily harm.Mar 12 13:52
immibisIs your entire conception of morality based on what the law says?Mar 12 13:52
immibisI didn't ask whether Alice COULD be charged for murder.Mar 12 13:53
DaemonFCI comply with the law.Mar 12 13:53
immibisI didn't ask whether Alice COULD be executed.Mar 12 13:53
DaemonFCMinimally sometimes, but comply, yeah.Mar 12 13:53
DaemonFCBecause I know what happens to people who don't.Mar 12 13:53
DaemonFCIf I can figure out a way to use a law in a way it wasn't intended in order to further my gains, and have broken no law in the process, I'll do that.Mar 12 13:54
immibisThis attitude leads directly to victim-blaming. You may as well say that anyone who got gassed in Nazi Germany deserved it because they didn't flee when they could when the Nazis took power. Because they were breaking the law by existing.Mar 12 13:54
immibisAnd the law at the time said they could be gassed as punishment for existing.Mar 12 13:54
immibisDo you believe that Jews who saw it was illegal to be Jewish, and did not flee immediately, deserved to die?Mar 12 13:54
DaemonFCIf I had to break the law, absolutely had to, and I'm speaking hypothetically here.....Mar 12 13:54
DaemonFCI'd be smart enough to cover it up and never talk about it again and destroy the evidence.Mar 12 13:55
DaemonFCThese people are sloppy.Mar 12 13:55
DaemonFCI don't respect that.Mar 12 13:55
DaemonFCMy step-sister (from mom's second husband) got pulled over for a seat belt violation.Mar 12 13:56
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DaemonFCWhile the cop had her pulled over, he saw a joint and a bottle of piss she took from her daughter to go pass an employment drug test with, laying in plain sight on the passenger seat.Mar 12 13:56
DaemonFCSo she ended up in jail for a year.Mar 12 13:56
immibisDaemonFC: Do you believe that Jews who remained in Germany after it was illegal to be Jewish deserved to die?Mar 12 13:56
DaemonFCIf she had put it under the seat, she would have gotten a $25 fine for the seatbelt.Mar 12 13:56
DaemonFCIf she had been wearing the seatbelt, there'd have been no traffic stop.Mar 12 13:57
DaemonFCI don't respect sloppy criminals.Mar 12 13:57
kingoffrancewhat does "be jewish" mean? there's egyptian astrology, that's it. moses == shu, he holds up the sun each morning and evaporates.   this is not anti-jew, but rather, why there will never be any lawMar 12 13:57
kingoffranceegypt collapsed, world still deals with it centuries laterMar 12 13:57
DaemonFCWell, fortunately, the United States isn't undergoing a holocaust.Mar 12 13:58
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immibiskingoffrance: whatever hitler meant by itMar 12 13:58
immibisDaemonFC: you're avoiding the question.Mar 12 13:58
DaemonFCIt lets inferior people breed uncontrollably and pays them to do it.Mar 12 13:58
DaemonFCThen we have crime and general dumbassery going on all over the place.Mar 12 13:58
immibisDaemonFC: Do you believe that Jews who remained in Germany after it was illegal to be Jewish deserved to die?Mar 12 13:58
techrights-news"First, letโ€™s look at gemserv. My computer was already tarnished with rust when I accidentally installed it as a dependency, so I decided to poke around in the package since cargo was already polluting my hard disk anyways. I decided to run a simple `cargo tree`, and oh my, what a mistake that was." gemini:// 12 13:58
techrights-newsRust sucks: "Why should something as simple as Gemini need over 100 dependencies? For reference, Molly Brown uses one (1) dependency, and it doesn't even have anything to do with the server itself, all it pulls in is a TOML parser for configuration!" gemini:// 12 13:59
techrights-news"I've complained before about Go making massive fucking binaries. Even if you count in the runtime which adds some heft, the compiler just doesn't seem to be that efficient at stripping away unneeded stuff. The molly-brown binary is 5.8MB despite it being pretty simple code. However, the compiled gemserv binary is /36 fucking megabytes/!" gemini:// 12 13:59
DaemonFCNo. But the Nazis weren't exactly democratically elected.Mar 12 13:59
DaemonFCThey forced their way into the government and then started ignoring the actual constitution and laws.Mar 12 14:00
techrights-news"For a """""systems programming language""""" rust certainly doesn't seem to have any of the qualities of one. No real architecture support beyond the most common desktop arches, massive binaries that would barely fit on anything with even moderately constrained sources." gemini:// 12 14:00
DaemonFCIn the entire history of the world, in democracy, nothing like the Nazis in Germany has happened anywhere else. Not even the Chinese are this bad and they're not a democratic country.Mar 12 14:01
immibisDaemonFC: So you agree sometimes a person who breaks the law doesn't deserve the corresponding punishment defined in the law.Mar 12 14:01
DaemonFCNot even Putin is that bad.Mar 12 14:01
DaemonFCThere was no law in Nazi Germany.Mar 12 14:01
immibisYou agree that sometimes, when a person breaks the law, it is the law that is wrong, not the person.Mar 12 14:01
DaemonFCWhen they couldn't get the courts to go along with their decrees, they made courts outside the law, called the People's Courts.Mar 12 14:02
DaemonFCAnd they sentenced people to mass execution without charging them with an offense defined by the law.Mar 12 14:02
immibisWhy wasn't there? What does that mean? You be Jewish, you get gassed - that's a law. It might not have followed whatever processes were defined in the Weimar Republic, but that doesn't make it not a law.Mar 12 14:02
DaemonFCHitler's decrees and emergency powers were not within the system of constitutional law.Mar 12 14:03
DaemonFCThey didn't change the laws, they ignored them.Mar 12 14:03
DaemonFCLike JB Pritzker in Illinois.Mar 12 14:03
immibisSo your system of law is founded upon constitutions, and the laws they specify, rather than all laws in general. Mar 12 14:03
DaemonFCGoverning by "decree and mandate" and "waiving" laws.Mar 12 14:03
immibis(including the specification of a system for changing laws)Mar 12 14:03
immibisIn places where there is no constitution, is there no law?Mar 12 14:03
DaemonFCBy the time anyone took him to court it all went away you know?Mar 12 14:03
DaemonFCIt took almost two years to get this into court because courts move slowly.Mar 12 14:04
DaemonFCAnd he ruled outside of the law for two years.Mar 12 14:04
immibisNew Zealand doesn't have a constitution. Are consequences for breaking New Zealand's laws undeserved?Mar 12 14:04
MinceRit's possible to write immoral things into the constitution, or whatever is used in place of a constitutionMar 12 14:04
MinceRin 2010, the national communists wrote a new "basic law" for hungary, chock full of christian fundamentalist bullshitMar 12 14:04
DaemonFCCountries without a constitution that binds the government somehow with a bill of rights do not have a legitimate government.Mar 12 14:05
DaemonFCThey have pirates running the state.Mar 12 14:05
MinceR(and then they violated their own "basic law" anyway)Mar 12 14:05
immibisOkay, so New Zealand does not have a legitimate government.Mar 12 14:06
DaemonFCNo, and they are human rights violators.Mar 12 14:06
DaemonFCSo is Australia.Mar 12 14:06
immibisSo people who steal TVs from TV stores in New Zealand do NOT deserve to go to jail?Mar 12 14:06
DaemonFCSo are most governments, honestly.Mar 12 14:06
immibisIn your opinion?Mar 12 14:06
DaemonFCMaybe all of them.Mar 12 14:06
kingoffranceim thinking its best to just say "egyptian-astrology based religions" and not humor any imaginary originsMar 12 14:06
DaemonFCWhen your country is running COVID concentration camps, like Australia does.Mar 12 14:07
immibisDaemonFC: So people who steal TVs from TV stores in New Zealand do NOT deserve to go to jail, because the law saying they should go to jail is illegitimate, just like the law in Nazi Germany that said Jews should get gassed was illegitimate?Mar 12 14:07
DaemonFCAnd you force people there who don't even have COVID....Mar 12 14:07
DaemonFCWell, people living there lack basic rights. Like, the government can order them to stay in their house.Mar 12 14:07
DaemonFCHow is that different from a communist country?Mar 12 14:08
immibisWhat is a constitution, anyway? If Hitler wrote a document saying: "This is the new constitution of Germany. ARTICLE 1: Jews should get gassed. ARTICLE 2: Aryans are the superior race." - then in your opinion, would the "Jews should get gassed" law be legitimate because it would be constitutional?Mar 12 14:08
immibisOr is there more to the legitimacy of a law than whether or not it follows a constitution?Mar 12 14:08
DaemonFCWell, Biden can't just set aside the United State Constitution.Mar 12 14:08
DaemonFCTHere's a process for this.Mar 12 14:08
immibisDaemonFC: people in America lack basic rights. Like, the government can lock them up in concrete rooms.Mar 12 14:08
DaemonFC*StatesMar 12 14:08
DaemonFCThere's a process for amending or replacing it, and it doesn't involve the President at all.Mar 12 14:09
DaemonFCEither way it's the states, or Congress and the states.Mar 12 14:09
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immibisIf the Weimar Republic had no constitution, and Hitler had written a constitution saying "Jews should be gassed. This constitution cannot be amended." would you still think that was the legitimate constitution of Germany today? I would hope you would not!Mar 12 14:09
DaemonFCIf Biden came out and tried to declare some "replacement Constitution" nobody would go along with it.Mar 12 14:10
DaemonFCThey play games.Mar 12 14:10
DaemonFCThey pass laws and wait to get sued over them to let courts decide how far they can go.Mar 12 14:10
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DaemonFCWhich is why it's best to pass a law that limits the government severely.Mar 12 14:11
DaemonFCConstitutional law, rather.Mar 12 14:11
immibisYou have not explained what you think makes a constitution legitimate or not.Mar 12 14:11
DaemonFCWell, the Constitution of the United States or of Illinois has always been amended the way it says it has to be.Mar 12 14:12
immibisYou HAVE explained that you are basically a constitutional absolutist, and that you believe any punishment prescribed by a process which follows a constitution is something the victim deserved. Just to reiterate where we are at.Mar 12 14:12
DaemonFCWell, the UK is proving that they were full of shit.Mar 12 14:13
DaemonFCWhen they said they were such an old and stable and proven democracy that they didn't need a written constitution.Mar 12 14:13
DaemonFCNow Borid is having fun with that. The "policing bill".Mar 12 14:13
immibisWe all know the US constitution blocked the PATRIOT ActMar 12 14:13
DaemonFCParts of it were struck down.Mar 12 14:14
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immibisWe all know the NSA never does anything that a court disapproves of.Mar 12 14:14
DaemonFCAnyway, the US legal system is far more robust than the one Boris Johnson is about to pass for the UK.Mar 12 14:14
DaemonFCThey won't even have an independent judiciary anymore.Mar 12 14:14
DaemonFCThe UK has done so much internal harm to itself that it's ceasing to function as a democracy and as a first world country.Mar 12 14:15
immibisDaemonFC: Can Boris Johnson write a constitution saying "Boris Johnson is the supreme leader for life"?Mar 12 14:15
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DaemonFCWell, Parliament can do pretty much anything it wants to.Mar 12 14:16
DaemonFCSo if his party decided that, sure.Mar 12 14:16
immibisI can do anything I want to. I can write a constitution saying "immibis is the supreme leader for life", right?Mar 12 14:16
MinceRwould this make dictatorship legitimate?Mar 12 14:16
DaemonFCThe Queen technically has to give royal assent.Mar 12 14:16
immibisAs a citizen of New Zealand, nobody can really challenge me on thatMar 12 14:17
DaemonFCBut she's never refused anything, afaik.Mar 12 14:17
immibisIt's not like I didn't follow all relevant constitutional amendment processes.Mar 12 14:17
DaemonFCThe monarchy asserting itself to save democracy would be the ultimate irony, wouldn't it?Mar 12 14:17
immibisHow do you know she's the monarch? Does it say so in the constitution?Mar 12 14:18
DaemonFCThe final step in a bill becoming a law there is royal assent.Mar 12 14:18
DaemonFCTo me that kind of suggests she could refuse to act on it and it would die.Mar 12 14:18
immibisWhy? Does it say so in the constitution? Or is it merely common practice?Mar 12 14:18
perfectorits a cultural thingMar 12 14:19
DaemonFCYou mean, would they overthrow the Queen finally if that happened?Mar 12 14:19
DaemonFCI mean, it's possible.Mar 12 14:19
immibisperfector: Only constitutions are legitimate sources of power according to DaemonFC Mar 12 14:19
DaemonFCWithout them, the limits of government power are undefined.Mar 12 14:20
perfectorguns are also legitimate sources of power according to DaemonFCMar 12 14:20
DaemonFCWhich is dangerous and seriously damages the credibility of anything the government does.Mar 12 14:20
immibisI am the queen of the UK, because there is no constitution saying I am not.Mar 12 14:20
DaemonFC<perfector> guns are also legitimate sources of power according to DaemonFCMar 12 14:20
DaemonFCIt's perfectly legitimate to overpower an attacker using your gun.Mar 12 14:20
immibisI have exactly as much power as Boris Johnson.Mar 12 14:20
immibisThere is no constitution saying the party in power is the one who gets the most votes.Mar 12 14:21
immibisBut I wrote one! It says the party in power is the one the person who wrote this constitution belongs to.Mar 12 14:21
perfectorto teally overpower an attacker you would be using is gunMar 12 14:22
immibisDaemonFC: Am I, or am I not currently the Prime Minister and the Queen?Mar 12 14:24
bnchs__so duckduckgo is gonna censor russians nowMar 12 14:25
immibisbnchs__: duckduckgo is going to provide more accurate search resultsMar 12 14:25
bnchs__and most people are appluading them for itMar 12 14:25
bnchs__immibis, "more accurate" to their point of viewMar 12 14:25
immibisbnchs__: just more accurate, period.Mar 12 14:25
immibisI assume if you search for 'russia rt' they still give you results for rtMar 12 14:26
bnchs__maybe just add an iconMar 12 14:26
immibisapart from that, RT should be given the same precedence as The OnionMar 12 14:26
perfectorduckduckgo is that a google wraper?Mar 12 14:26
bnchs__not down-rank the shit out of themMar 12 14:26
bnchs__don't care if it's "accurate", need uncensored resultsMar 12 14:26
immibiswhy?Mar 12 14:26
MinceRi think it should be given less precedenceMar 12 14:26
immibisif I spam the internet with flat-earth pages, when you search for the shape of the earth, should you find my pages?Mar 12 14:26
MinceRat least The Onion is funnyMar 12 14:26
DaemonFCI used to be interested in DuckDuckGo. As they went on, they got MORE dependent on Bing to the point that results are verbatim for the most part.Mar 12 14:27
bnchs__immibis, i think they put a wikipedia page summary on the sideMar 12 14:27
bnchs__but anyway, i don't like duckduckgo playing hall moniter with search resultsMar 12 14:27
DaemonFCThey claim that there is a DuckDuckBot, but I don't think it actually exists.Mar 12 14:27
immibisbnchs__: what is "uncensored", anyway? Demanding no manual intervention in the result list seems like a crazy demand. Because that also means no manual intervention against link farms for example - which will certainly adapt to whatever automatic filters you put in place.Mar 12 14:28
MinceRwell, i've seen ddg provide better results than bรฌng in the same searx result listMar 12 14:28
MinceRso they're doing _something_Mar 12 14:28
bnchs__immibis add a flag for no manual interventionMar 12 14:28
immibisbnchs__: why is it okay to censor those sites that just copy-paste other sites and add links to gucci handbags?Mar 12 14:28
bnchs__like "nointervention:true"Mar 12 14:29
schestowitz-TR2flat earth theory pages would not get many linksMar 12 14:29
bnchs__instead of choosing what's best for the usersMar 12 14:29
schestowitz-TR2and so based on their lack of merit a good search algorithm would not index them too positiveklyMar 12 14:29
DaemonFCRunning a search engine is tricky.Mar 12 14:30
DaemonFCThe web is big, and most of it is low quality spam.Mar 12 14:30
schestowitz-TR2a growing proportion of itMar 12 14:31
immibisschestowitz-TR2: well that's just automatic censorshipMar 12 14:31
schestowitz-TR2pagerankMar 12 14:31
schestowitz-TR2that was the original sofwtare patents for gulag/sttandfordMar 12 14:31
schestowitz-TR2basically counting backlinksMar 12 14:31
schestowitz-TR2nothing witty  about itMar 12 14:31
DaemonFC 12 14:31
schestowitz-TR2scholarly publication had already done the sameMar 12 14:31
bnchs__first of all, what if i wanna look for the low quality spamMar 12 14:31
immibispagerank is also censorshipMar 12 14:31
schestowitz-TR2then they just needed brute force, and for that they had moneyMar 12 14:32
immibisit censors pages that nobody links toMar 12 14:32
schestowitz-TR2it's a circular issueMar 12 14:32
schestowitz-TR2pages that do not even get noticed cannot be ranked wellMar 12 14:32
schestowitz-TR2it's a known issueMar 12 14:32
schestowitz-TR2chicken-and-eggMar 12 14:32
schestowitz-TR2PageRank is also easy to gameMar 12 14:32
bnchs__what if you wanna look at russian state mediaMar 12 14:33
bnchs__to see their opinion and perspectiveMar 12 14:33
bnchs__instead of censoring or down ranking them for the same bland opinionMar 12 14:33
schestowitz-TR2not allowedMar 12 14:33
MinceRwhy not use their domain names thenMar 12 14:33
schestowitz-TR2historians have struggled with thisMar 12 14:33
schestowitz-TR2when "web" companies likke gulag censored a lot of thingsMar 12 14:33
schestowitz-TR2in the name of "protecting" peopleMar 12 14:33
schestowitz-TR2so then even ust studying history became hardMar 12 14:34
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*kingoffrance you cant handle the pravda! </jack nicholson>Mar 12 14:34
bnchs__history is sometimes about seeing the perspective of peopleMar 12 14:34
bnchs__and censoring info ruins thatMar 12 14:34
XRevan86Of people or of the regime?Mar 12 14:35
XRevan86Come on, people, chant with me: Regime Opinions MatterMar 12 14:35
MinceR:>Mar 12 14:39
immibisbnchs__: then you search for russian state media and get results from russian state media. The only issue is if you DON'T search for thatMar 12 14:39
MinceRDictator Lives MatterMar 12 14:39
immibisLike, if I search for "flat earth" I should get flat earth info, no doubt. If I search for "earth shape" should I get flat earth info?Mar 12 14:39
immibisDaemonFC never answered why my constitution wasn't legitimate.Mar 12 14:39
kingoffrancei dont know, what's your seal? 12 14:41
kingoffrance"ive them a magical  efficacy " you need that partMar 12 14:42
kingoffrance*giveMar 12 14:42
XRevan86No takers, eh? How about: Corrupt Officials Are Human, Too!Mar 12 14:42
bnchs__XRevan86, uhhhMar 12 14:42
bnchs__of the news there?Mar 12 14:42
kingoffrancealso, heralds dont pun because they cantMar 12 14:42
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bnchs__immibis, the problem is that many people have different beliefs about the earth shapeMar 12 14:43
immibisbnchs__: The problem with what?Mar 12 14:44
XRevan86Strangely enough, the shape of the Earth doesn't change because of that.Mar 12 14:44
bnchs__the search engineMar 12 14:44
bnchs__can't decide what is truthful and what is notMar 12 14:44
XRevan86bnchs__: Hm?Mar 12 14:45
bnchs__ok maybeMar 12 14:45
bnchs__maybe i'm wrongMar 12 14:45
bnchs__but how does the search engine decide when you search for earth shape, it gives you sphere earthMar 12 14:46
immibisbnchs__: That's an implementation detailMar 12 14:46
immibisThe discussion is whether it **should** give you sphere earth infoMar 12 14:46
immibisand not flat earth infoMar 12 14:46
bnchs__yes but it can be twistedMar 12 14:47
bnchs__immibis, maybe mix it a bitMar 12 14:47
bnchs__mix flat earth results in the bottomMar 12 14:47
bnchs__and sphere earth in the topMar 12 14:48
schestowitz-TR2human nature: power, I'm right, you are wrongMar 12 14:48
immibisbnchs__: I thought downranking was censorship?Mar 12 14:48
schestowitz-TR2human-made Web: I remove the "bad" info, I "protect" you from "false" stuffMar 12 14:48
bnchs__ok how about thisMar 12 14:48
schestowitz-TR2also human nature: we have capitalkism, sdhareholders decideMar 12 14:49
bnchs__we split the search results in many perspectivesMar 12 14:49
bnchs__"sphere earth" "flat earth"Mar 12 14:49
immibisbelieving in stupid conspiracy theories is also human nature. The Nazis were human nature - a conspiracy theory that Jews were secretly doing bad stuffMar 12 14:49
schestowitz-TR2so boycotts and shareholders decide for gulag how to rank thingsMar 12 14:49
schestowitz-TR2by pressuring them to better align with shareholders' worldviewMar 12 14:49
immibisbnchs__: that doesn't help me determine the shape of the earth, does it?Mar 12 14:49
bnchs__immibis, should you let the search engine believe what you shouldMar 12 14:49
bnchs__you should believe in what you think is logicalMar 12 14:49
immibissure, there are some experiments that prove round earth. There are also some convincing experiments that "prove" flat earth unless you have a really good science education to debunk themMar 12 14:50
schestowitz-TR2search engines can be patronisingMar 12 14:50
immibisI mean, it's plainly obvious that gravity only pulls in one direction, right? :)Mar 12 14:50
schestowitz-TR2it takes a lot of moneyt o run a "real" search engineMar 12 14:50
schestowitz-TR2not the meta crapMar 12 14:50
immibisbnchs__: flat earth is logicalMar 12 14:50
XRevan86How much money does Brave invest into theirs?Mar 12 14:50
immibisbnchs__: the non-existence quantum physics is logical. Light not being made of particles or waves is logical.Mar 12 14:50
immibisnon-existence of*Mar 12 14:51
schestowitz-TR2XRevan86: afaik, they are just a brandMar 12 14:51
bnchs__immibis, then look at the interviews made by sciencists who believe the earth is a sphereMar 12 14:51
schestowitz-TR2taking chromium, throwing cranky crap into itMar 12 14:51
schestowitz-TR2and self-branded meta 'search'Mar 12 14:51
XRevan86schestowitz: I mean search.brave.comMar 12 14:51
immibisbnchs__: Then look at the interviews made by scientists who believe it's not.Mar 12 14:51
bnchs__yesMar 12 14:51
immibisbnchs__: Then look at the interviews made by scientists who believe there's a supreme sky human.Mar 12 14:51
bnchs__or maybe do it yourselfMar 12 14:51
bnchs__shoot yourself to the sky and see it for yourselfMar 12 14:51
schestowitz-TR2XRevan86: I will tell you when a Briave Bot shows up in my accesslogs :-)Mar 12 14:52
immibisRound-earth scientists: "If we do all this complicated stuff we can see some evidence of curvature." Flat-earth scientists: "um just look around you. It's flat."Mar 12 14:52
XRevan86schestowitz: hehMar 12 14:52
immibisWho do you believe, the one whose evidence is plain eyesight and common sense, or the one whose evidence requires special equipment and weird experiments?Mar 12 14:52
bnchs__immibis, form your opinion around what you think you believeMar 12 14:52
XRevan86immibis: "um just look around you. It's flat. Unless ye're a salesperson, then your opinion is invalid"Mar 12 14:52
immibisbnchs__: So basically, do not seek truth?Mar 12 14:53
bnchs__the search engine shouldn't decide the "truth"Mar 12 14:53
bnchs__is what i thinkMar 12 14:53
schestowitz-TR2the web is NOT an encyclopediaMar 12 14:53
schestowitz-TR2it is a frak showMar 12 14:53
schestowitz-TR2*freakMar 12 14:53
schestowitz-TR2and the more people get connected, the worse it will getMar 12 14:53
schestowitz-TR2like granmas uploading nudesMar 12 14:53
schestowitz-TR2just because a nuclear scientist started the web to share his physics papers doesn't mean the www is goodMar 12 14:54
schestowitz-TR2it turned into a gulag with facebookMar 12 14:54
schestowitz-TR2and for a lot of the rest spying and advertisingMar 12 14:54
schestowitz-TR2using webspam to latch onto "screen time"Mar 12 14:55
immibisbnchs__: Maybe you think it should reject searches for "earth shape" and only support "round earth" and "flat earth"?Mar 12 14:55
immibisbnchs__: Do you believe in "teach the controversy" regarding evolution?Mar 12 14:55
bnchs__immibis, isn't search engines supposed to be neutralMar 12 14:55
immibisbnchs__: neutrality does not existMar 12 14:55
schestowitz-TR2within the context of algoorithsm it doesMar 12 14:55
schestowitz-TR2and you can publish the algoMar 12 14:55
schestowitz-TR2and then negotiate how to changesMar 12 14:56
schestowitz-TR2then let it run unalateredMar 12 14:56
schestowitz-TR2then the lack of neutrality is the decision on changesMar 12 14:56
schestowitz-TR2if elected politicians do that, citizens of Earth indirectly have a sayMar 12 14:56
bnchs__immibis, people have different beliefsMar 12 14:57
schestowitz-TR2At the moment we have Pentagon companies writing secret scriptsMar 12 14:57
immibisThere are no neutral algorithms. Remember the whole AI race thing?Mar 12 14:57
schestowitz-TR2and we're meant to think that's just "how things are..."Mar 12 14:57
immibisEven quicksort handles certain lists better than others.Mar 12 14:57
schestowitz-TR2so make it free softwareMar 12 14:57
schestowitz-TR2and negotiableMar 12 14:57
bnchs__the person who is searching for it should form their opinion around what they foundMar 12 14:58
schestowitz-TR2it would be a step in a better directionMar 12 14:58
bnchs__rather than the search engine deciding what he should find or notMar 12 14:58
immibisbnchs__: so it is acceptable if a search for "earth shape" returns solely flat earth info (as some accident of the search algorithm)?Mar 12 14:58
schestowitz-TR2I am uploading a video about this at the momentMar 12 14:58
immibisbnchs__: literally the entire point of a search engine is to decide what you should find.Mar 12 14:58
bnchs__that's not what i'm sayingMar 12 14:58
schestowitz-TR2about how YOUtube is about Gulag telling YOU what to thinkMar 12 14:58
schestowitz-TR2instead of YOU telling Gulag what you look forMar 12 14:58
immibisschestowitz-TR2: did you cover the alt-right pipeline?Mar 12 14:59
bnchs__what i'm saying is that the search engine should give you different perspectives into looking at thingsMar 12 14:59
bnchs__rather than the search engine deciding the sole perspectiveMar 12 14:59
bnchs__as "truthful" or notMar 12 14:59
schestowitz-TR2immibis: is that like the wormhole of racists? Witrh rense and stuff?Mar 12 14:59
schestowitz-TR2or doomscrolling but with another slant?Mar 12 14:59
psydroid8what about running our own search engines?Mar 12 15:00
immibisschestowitz-TR2: the wormhole. I don't know what you mean by "rense"Mar 12 15:00
bnchs__<immibis> bnchs__: literally the entire point of a search engine is to decide what you should find.Mar 12 15:01
immibisPeople see one slightly racist guy and the algorithm keeps steering them towards more and more racism and each step makes sense at their current levelMar 12 15:01
immibisso people don't reject itMar 12 15:01
bnchs__but should the search engine put round earth at the top because they say soMar 12 15:01
immibisbnchs__: implementation detailMar 12 15:01
schestowitz-TR2immibis: ah, yes, I know about thatMar 12 15:01
schestowitz-TR2that even predates the term alt-rightMar 12 15:01
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schestowitz-TR2there are some subtle nazi sites on the webMar 12 15:02
schestowitz-TR2like renseMar 12 15:02
schestowitz-TR2but they do not advertise them as suchMar 12 15:02
activelowalgorithms for document-term frequency and stemming have absolutely zero sentiment or bias towards anythingMar 12 15:02
schestowitz-TR2so they end up reaching peopleMar 12 15:02
kingoffrance"what about running our own search engines?"  is that being done for gemini?Mar 12 15:02
schestowitz-TR2psydroid8: it's super-expensiveMar 12 15:02
schestowitz-TR2you need to crawl and ton of sites over and over againMar 12 15:03
schestowitz-TR2and then process the dataMar 12 15:03
schestowitz-TR2gulag does not even need to do just that anymoreMar 12 15:03
schestowitz-TR2using fingerprinting and chrome and other things like JS it tracks peopleMar 12 15:03
immibispsydroid8: have you even tried writing a basic crawler? I have. One thread downloads gigabyte after gigabyte of useless junk. The internet is *huge*. If you want to crawl the web you need massive resources.Mar 12 15:03
schestowitz-TR2and then optimises results based on thatMar 12 15:03
immibishowever, search engines aren't inherently based on crawlers. If you wanted something more curated-directory-like it would be doable.Mar 12 15:03
immibisbut then it wouldn't index everythingMar 12 15:04
immibisif you wanted a curated directory of everything you'd be back to the resources problemMar 12 15:04
schestowitz-TR2remember dmoz?Mar 12 15:04
schestowitz-TR2anyone here used dmoz?Mar 12 15:04
schestowitz 12 15:04
schestowitzgemini:// 12 15:05
schestowitzwe might be forming some stuff around geminiMar 12 15:05
schestowitzthe pages are smallMar 12 15:05
schestowitzbut the number of capsules with xml/rss/atom is still manageableMar 12 15:05
bnchs__i feel like what i'm saying is absolutely retardedMar 12 15:05
schestowitzsorting the new stuff will be the next stepMar 12 15:06
schestowitzand then categorising it based on more than just new/old/by dateMar 12 15:06
immibisbtw, you can have a hybrid approach, since most individual websites are small enough to crawl, and you just need a curated list of websites, not of pagesMar 12 15:06
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immibisbnchs__: maybe it isMar 12 15:07
immibisbnchs__: it seems like a rehash of "teach the controversy"Mar 12 15:07
schestowitzmaybe search engine as a concept is flawedMar 12 15:07
schestowitzit's not a directory of infoMar 12 15:08
schestowitzjust a pool of "stuff" that mentions <some words>Mar 12 15:08
schestowitzI usually go to wikipedia firstMar 12 15:08
schestowitzthen I use references at the bottomMar 12 15:08
kingoffrance^Mar 12 15:08
immibisthe problem with some retarded opinions is enough people are brainwashed into thinking them, that they can't just be discarded as nonsense even if they areMar 12 15:08
schestowitzwikipedia has its issuesMar 12 15:08
immibisschestowitz: Google developers know this, so they up-rank wikipediaMar 12 15:08
kingoffrancean archive or "library" maybe is differentMar 12 15:08
schestowitzbut going to is not betterMar 12 15:08
bnchs__immibis: teach the controversy?Mar 12 15:08
immibisbnchs__: Yes. The idea that creationism and evolution should be taught equally alongside each other in science classes, and students should be allowed to choose which one they like better.Mar 12 15:09
bnchs__dude i'm not saying thatMar 12 15:09
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immibisyou're basically saying that but for search enginesMar 12 15:09
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bnchs__i'm saying that maybe search engines should have different sections (perspectives) into looking at "earth shape"Mar 12 15:09
bnchs__i'm not saying making a result salad of shitMar 12 15:10
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immibisbnchs__: They were saying maybe science classes should have different sections (perspectives) into looking at "origin of life"Mar 12 15:10
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bnchs__the perspective that's the most peer-reviewed?Mar 12 15:11
immibis - it was actually taught in some schoolsMar 12 15:11
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bnchs__so you're saying search results should be one-sidedMar 12 15:12
immibisbnchs__: why does that apply to "origin of life", but not to "earth shape"?Mar 12 15:12
bnchs__immibis: maybe because i'm not saying "origin of life"Mar 12 15:12
immibisbnchs__: unless you specifically search for non-factual information, you shouldn't receive it. The default is to assume that you want to know what shape the earth is in real life - not in science fiction.Mar 12 15:12
immibisyou want that, search for "alternative earth shape"Mar 12 15:12
bnchs__"you want to know whats 1+1" "its 3"Mar 12 15:13
immibisYou're saying that if someone searches for "1+1" the search engine should not discriminate between results that say "2" and results that say "3"Mar 12 15:13
bnchs__who decides that in the search engineMar 12 15:13
immibisimplementation detailMar 12 15:13
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bnchs__immibis, you go with the one thats more logicalMar 12 15:14
immibisIf you view a search engine as "a program that finds pages matching keywords" then yes, it shouldn't discriminate. But that's not what a search engine is in reality.Mar 12 15:14
bnchs__and more peer-reviewedMar 12 15:14
MinceRi wish there was a search engine that does thatMar 12 15:14
MinceRit would make my life a lot easierMar 12 15:14
immibisbnchs__: 1+1=L seems pretty logical, actually. Two straight lines make two straight linesMar 12 15:14
immibisand the word "Logical" even starts with "L".Mar 12 15:15
MinceR1+1=11Mar 12 15:15
immibishow much more logical can you... oh MinceR has itMar 12 15:15
immibisalthough. even better. 1+1=1+1Mar 12 15:15
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immibis1+1=โ”œ|โ”คMar 12 15:16
bnchs__my opinion was about the russian and ukraine warMar 12 15:16
bnchs__i guess it got twisted to science nowMar 12 15:16
MinceR1+1=|-o-|Mar 12 15:16
immibisbnchs__: it was about search engines in general. If you had reasoning that was specifically about the Russian massacre in Ukraine, you should have used that reasoning, not reasoning that applies to all searchesMar 12 15:16
bnchs__yes i knowMar 12 15:17
immibisbnchs__: anyway DDG did not say they'd downrank misinformation about the Russian massacre in Ukraine. They said they'd downrank Russian state media, or something like that.Mar 12 15:17
bnchs__i didn't say misinformationMar 12 15:17
immibiswhich is a known unreliable source, anyway. I certainly expect Wikipedia to be ranked above 4chan when I search for things!Mar 12 15:18
MinceRif you expect anything other than disinformation from russian state media, you're a fool :>Mar 12 15:18
bnchs__immibis, everyone knows 4chan is a cesspoolMar 12 15:18
immibisbnchs__: no, not everyone does.Mar 12 15:18
MinceRit would be hard to index 4chan anyway, as threads tend to be short-lived there, at least on the active boardsMar 12 15:19
bnchs__i'm pretty sure they already banned 4chan from indexes, because of the CPMar 12 15:19
immibisMinceR: let's pretend it was forever archivedMar 12 15:19
immibisit should still be ranked below wikipediaMar 12 15:19
bnchs__i wouldn't search for science stuff on search engines anywayMar 12 15:20
bnchs__maybe on wikipediaMar 12 15:20
immibiswhy not?Mar 12 15:20
bnchs__because wikipedia is netural?Mar 12 15:21
bnchs__and i can see the references?Mar 12 15:21
MinceRwikipedia is only neutral until someone with sufficient resources decides to game itMar 12 15:21
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immibisbnchs__: you can also see the references on search engines. in fact they are ONLY referencesMar 12 15:21
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immibisnothing BUT referencesMar 12 15:21
bnchs__immibis there are random blogs with no referencesMar 12 15:21
immibiswikipedia references can also be places without referencesMar 12 15:22
bnchs__yesMar 12 15:22
bnchs__but do you really trust some random website made by a nobodyMar 12 15:22
immibiswould you trust it more if google said it?Mar 12 15:23
immibisi mean if google said the website as a referenceMar 12 15:23
SomeH4x0rMinceR: I think certain stuff, like COVID-19 one, might be rejected as "misinformation" regardless of sourcesMar 12 15:23
bnchs__i wouldn't trust anything regardless if the search engine says itMar 12 15:24
immibisbnchs__: so it should make no difference whether you see it on Wikipedia or GoogleMar 12 15:24
bnchs__if the guy who made the website actually publishes it under a nameMar 12 15:25
bnchs__immibis: maybe say why my opinion is bad?Mar 12 15:27
immibisbnchs__: well you're saying you'd rather get your links on wikipedia than on google, because they're more trustworthy when they're on wikipedia? but you wouldn't trust them anyway? so how does it matter how trustworthy they are?Mar 12 15:28
bnchs__when i can see who made the claimMar 12 15:29
bnchs__and if he can prove itMar 12 15:29
immibisso why are wikipedia links better than google links?Mar 12 15:30
bnchs__because google links are now just spam blogsMar 12 15:30
immibisif google returned similar links to wikipedia would there still be a difference?Mar 12 15:31
immibisas* wikipediaMar 12 15:31
bnchs__i don't think they do that anymoreMar 12 15:31
immibisbut if it did?Mar 12 15:32
immibisif Google censored all the spam blogs?Mar 12 15:32
bnchs__ok now there's that part that requires the most mental gymnasticsMar 12 15:34
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immibisyes because now you have to say censorship is sometimes goodMar 12 15:34
bnchs__i don't want them to be censoredMar 12 15:35
bnchs__but maybe i don't search on google for thisMar 12 15:35
bnchs__i search on some search engine thats for sciencetific papersMar 12 15:35
immibisyou don't search on google BECAUSE google is not censoring enoughMar 12 15:35
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bnchs__immibis, no i still don't want censorshipMar 12 15:36
immibisbnchs__: but you don't use it because of a lack of censorshipMar 12 15:36
bnchs__no it's becauseMar 12 15:36
bnchs__i don't want to trust the web on shitMar 12 15:37
immibisbut you are still trusting the web when you use wikipediaMar 12 15:37
bnchs__yes because they're referenced by scienctific papersMar 12 15:38
immibisso are the google results you wantMar 12 15:38
immibisthe ones google would have if it censored moreMar 12 15:38
bnchs__no that's still badMar 12 15:38
immibisbut if it did that it would have better results and you'd use itMar 12 15:38
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bnchs__noMar 12 15:39
bnchs__because i wouldn't trust itMar 12 15:39
bnchs__if it was censoring resultsMar 12 15:39
immibisbut you would trust wikipedia to censor resultsMar 12 15:39
bnchs__wikipedia cherry picks referencesMar 12 15:40
immibisif they both returned the exact same results you would trust wikipedia but not googleMar 12 15:40
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immibischerry-picking is just censorship seen from a different perspectiveMar 12 15:40
bnchs__so you're saying?Mar 12 15:40
techrights-news"First, we have to talk about the absolute galaxy brain decision by Stรฉphane Bortzmeyer and Sean Conner to use gitlab of all places for discuss the Gemini specification." gemini:// 12 15:41
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bnchs__immibis, i use search engines that return low-quality resultsMar 12 15:41
techrights-news"Okay, so after that big โ€œfuck youโ€ to anybody not using a graphical browser, you open up your non-chromium and non-firefox NetSurf browser. Every single page is blank except for a partially populated but broken sidebar. โ€œFuck youโ€ again, you have to use the status quo and open up your mainstream browser." gemini:// 12 15:41
bnchs__but i just dig through the resultsMar 12 15:42
schestowitzlolMar 12 15:42
schestowitz"So after three big โ€œfuck youโ€s you are forced to use your graphical browser with javascript enabled, and now you can actually read the full discussions. But you still can't participate at all because of course you need an account, a fourth โ€œfuck you.โ€ I didn't want to make an account, but I tried anyways and was literally unable to because gitlab got stuck endlessly running a โ€œbrowser check,โ€ the fifth and final โ€œfuck you.โ€"Mar 12 15:42
techrights-news"Oh yeah gitlab also uses cloudflare, woe betide the reader who dares use Tor or cares even a modicum about their privacy (nobody on Gemini cares about privacy, right?)." gemini:// 12 15:43
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bnchs__this is why i don't wanna say my opinion because sometimes it makes me look like a retardMar 12 15:44
immibisbnchs__: well, change your opinion to one that's not retardedMar 12 15:44
bnchs__and what is it?Mar 12 15:44
immibisif your opinion makes you look like a retard then it's probably an opinion that only a retard would have, and you shouldn't have itMar 12 15:45
immibiswhat you just said is equivalent to "I don't say things because they could be wrong"Mar 12 15:45
schestowitzI think searechj engines in general can be bypassed most of the timeMar 12 15:45
schestowitzbut people are taught (trained?) to "google it"Mar 12 15:45
schestowitzeven for things that are already in their browser historyMar 12 15:46
bnchs__in general i think that the user should be the one to cherrypickMar 12 15:46
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techrights-news"I like to shoot on manual all the time, and most smartphones don't let you even adjust something like aperture (most phone cameras are fixed-aperture) or shutter speed & iso (even though phone cameras support manually setting it)." gemini:// 12 15:48
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MinceRjust read all the pages of results from all the search engines and you get to cherrypick :>Mar 12 15:48
techrights-news"I am living proof that, even someone like me who has suffered from occasional impostor's syndrome, can, and will, be accepted into the linux and Free and open source software community." gemini:// 12 15:49
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bnchs__immibis, because right now i'm still confused on this topicMar 12 15:52
immibiswell that's a step better than asserting something that you feel makes you look like a retardMar 12 15:52
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bnchs__but even with thatMar 12 15:54
bnchs__i still don't agree with search engines censoring piracyMar 12 15:54
schestowitz-TR2they do it cause they get suedMar 12 15:55
schestowitz-TR2not out of legit desireMar 12 15:55
schestowitz-TR2copyright cartels buy the lawMar 12 15:55
schestowitz-TR2with people like Biden signing it offMar 12 15:56
schestowitz-TR2and then they sue Gulag and othersMar 12 15:56
schestowitz-TR2to get their wayMar 12 15:56
schestowitz-TR2they're like "the king"Mar 12 15:56
schestowitz-TR2what's "legal" is whatever they desireMar 12 15:56
bnchs__but most times i don't like to explain my opinion because of my lack of confidence of it's legitamacyMar 12 15:56
perfectorbnchs__ agree with search engines censoring bnchs__ and hes trying to prove them rightMar 12 15:59
bnchs__okMar 12 16:00
perfectorhes building a case that will give them legitamacy to censor piracyMar 12 16:01
bnchs__soMar 12 16:02
perfectorthey just dodnt do it because that will stiffle inovationMar 12 16:02
bnchs__you're saying because of meMar 12 16:02
bnchs__they should censor piracy?Mar 12 16:02
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perfectorthats your goalMar 12 16:02
bnchs__yeah okMar 12 16:03
bnchs__perfector, how am i building a caseMar 12 16:04
perfectoror maybe you just like them not to censor piracy so that you can get more a legal levrage on the most people as possibleMar 12 16:04
bnchs__no it's more like i wanna get somethingMar 12 16:05
bnchs__it's not in my regionMar 12 16:05
bnchs__i download itMar 12 16:05
perfectorthe legal system is useful for getting a leverage on everyone cause everyone has committed some sort of crime in their lifesMar 12 16:07
bnchs__yesMar 12 16:07
bnchs__but how does censoring piracy relate to thatMar 12 16:08
perfectoreven more after the internet you can even get leverage on people that already paid for their crimes cause the internet never forgets (or forgives)Mar 12 16:09
bnchs__yeah so?Mar 12 16:09
perfectorcensoring piracy would make it harder for people to break the lawMar 12 16:09
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perfectorso less legal leverage on fewer peopleMar 12 16:10
bnchs__pirating is harmless shitMar 12 16:10
perfectoruntill its notMar 12 16:11
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bnchs__perfector, how?Mar 12 16:11
perfectormaybe your childrens children will have to work like slaves to pay for the stuff you piratedMar 12 16:11
bnchs__ok maybe you're wrong on thatMar 12 16:12
perfectormaybeMar 12 16:12
bnchs__copyright laws doesn't extend hereMar 12 16:12
perfectorlaws can changeMar 12 16:12
bnchs__we pirate all day and don't give 2 shitsMar 12 16:12
perfectorglobal laws enforced global google policeMar 12 16:13
perfectoror some shit like thatMar 12 16:13
bnchs__and there's more incentive to pirateMar 12 16:13
bnchs__because of DRM and shitMar 12 16:14
perfectorthey got your numberMar 12 16:14
bnchs__immibis, you're right, i'm wrong, maybe i shouldn't be asserting such mental gymMar 12 16:15
bnchs__perfector, i don't careMar 12 16:15
bnchs__they can yell at meMar 12 16:15
perfectorwe will be just catlel for the global ruling AI to pastureMar 12 16:15
bnchs__they can cry about the lost profits that's just a drop of the waterMar 12 16:16
immibisbnchs__: pirating would be harmless if we didn't have an economic system that relies on creating artificial barriers to accessing value and then charging people to get through the barriers.Mar 12 16:18
bnchs__XRevan86, and i'm sorry for whatever i saidMar 12 16:22
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perfectorculture should be free for allMar 12 16:31
*XRevan86 shrugs.Mar 12 16:32
perfectorwhat did you do?Mar 12 16:33
*XRevan86 shrugged.Mar 12 16:33
perfectorbnchs__Mar 12 16:34
bnchs__justified how the russian state media should have not been downranked?Mar 12 16:34
bnchs__to be honest, being downranked is a bit better than being removed from the resultsMar 12 16:35
perfector look its XRevan86Mar 12 16:36
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perfectoris that you XRevan86?Mar 12 16:37
XRevan86It's O.K. to have an unbiased objective ranking system, but it's also O.K. to blacklist very known bad actors, I won't stand in the way.Mar 12 16:37
XRevan86perfector: noMar 12 16:37
perfectorso you are impersonating?Mar 12 16:37
XRevan86perfector: Sure :)Mar 12 16:38
perfectorะะปะตะบัะตฬะน ะ˜ะฒะฐฬะฝะพะฒะธั‡ ะกะพั€ะพฬะบะธะฝ thst you right?Mar 12 16:39
XRevan86perfector: noMar 12 16:39
XRevan86perfector: And stop trying to dig me upMar 12 16:40
bnchs__i really thought alexei was your nameMar 12 16:40
perfectorbut you live in california?Mar 12 16:40
bnchs__i kinda looked up your name a week agoMar 12 16:40
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XRevan86bnchs__: I wish it were harder.Mar 12 16:41
XRevan86perfector: I wish.Mar 12 16:41
*MinceR engages in robbery at seaMar 12 16:42
perfectorflorida?Mar 12 16:42
XRevan86perfector: If I were, I would not have regretted my openness over the years.Mar 12 16:42
XRevan86perfector: I'm in flipping Russia.Mar 12 16:43
XRevan86Not "from", "in".Mar 12 16:43
bnchs__i still find it odd that they didn't downrank nor censor western mediaMar 12 16:46
psydroid8Hotel CaliforniaMar 12 16:46
bnchs__yetMar 12 16:46
perfectorthey dont cause they want to know who is watching itMar 12 16:48
XRevan86No, the reason is simple: censorship targets people who only know one language well, the "normies" if ye will.Mar 12 16:48
XRevan86It's pointless to try to limit information flow to the more savvy people, because it'll be way harder and they'll circumvent it anyway.Mar 12 16:49
perfectorand they want to know who is watching itMar 12 16:50
perfectorit goes in your profileMar 12 16:50
bnchs__and there's the problemMar 12 16:50
XRevan86I have no evidence of that.Mar 12 16:50
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bnchs__that happened with covid-19 and the christchruch (does anyone remember that) shootingMar 12 16:51
bnchs__they straight up ranked up all the news channels whenever you search query was related to covid-19Mar 12 16:51
bnchs__and in the christchruch shooting, they removed the option to sort in search resultMar 12 16:52
bnchs__temporarily of courseMar 12 16:52
perfectorthere should be a law against having to register to watch twiter facebook and whatelseMar 12 16:55
perfectorthey are forcing people to agree to their spyware lawsMar 12 16:55
perfectorto watch public contentMar 12 16:56
bnchs__use nitterMar 12 16:56
perfectorthats completely fuckedupMar 12 16:56
bnchs__facebook is garbage contentMar 12 16:56
perfectori could se a point if you wanted to make commentsMar 12 16:57
perfectorstillMar 12 16:57
perfectorthis us laws are completlly bsMar 12 16:57
bnchs__i wonder if theres anything valuable in facebookMar 12 16:57
bnchs__rather than reuploads of videos recompressed 12 times into a 144p videoMar 12 16:57
bnchs__with thousands of watermarksMar 12 16:57
perfectornitter?Mar 12 17:03
perfectorthat shit doesent workMar 12 17:03
bnchs__well i don't know it works for meMar 12 17:03
perfectorit workedMar 12 17:03
perfector 12 17:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | MrRevinsky (@Kyruer) | nitterMar 12 17:04
perfectorsome junkMar 12 17:04
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psydroid8facebook is nothing more than an ad distribution and censorship platformMar 12 17:12
perfectorrussian junk is geting rektMar 12 17:15
perfector 12 17:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | โšก๏ธะกะฟัƒั‚ะฝะธะบ News ะะขะž ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ (@SputnikATO): "ะŸะพะดะณะพั‚ะพะฒะบะฐ ะฐะผะตั€ะธะบะฐะฝะพ-ะฑะฐะฝะดะตั€ะพะฒั†ะตะฒ ๐Ÿ˜‚" | nitterMar 12 17:16
perfectortheres no nitter for telegram is there?Mar 12 17:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | rev. howard arson (@Theophite): "world war three cannot start until the russian military is capable of fueling a tank thirty miles into someone else's territory. the city of kyiv, where a substantial amount of russian materiel is now parked, is only slightly further away from moscow than san francisco is from LA" | nitterMar 12 17:52
XRevan86"Crap, now everyone in the world knows the state of our military"Mar 12 17:53
MinceR:)Mar 12 17:55
XRevan86A surprise to no one, even I here mentioned things about the state of Russian military (prior to the war).Mar 12 17:56
schestowitz-TR2do nukes need to refuel in midflight?Mar 12 17:56
XRevan86"to no one" <- Except Putin I guess.Mar 12 17:56
XRevan86schestowitz: They might land on Voronezh.Mar 12 17:56
schestowitz-TR2ICMar 12 17:57
schestowitz-TR2BMMar 12 17:57
XRevan86"O.K., we just need slight course correction"Mar 12 17:57
MinceRsomeone claimed there that plutonium needs to be replaced every 10 yearsMar 12 17:57
schestowitz-TR2they should make the ICBMs electrociMar 12 17:57
MinceRso it's possible that russian ICBMs are dudsMar 12 17:57
schestowitz-TR2to make them more green and environmentally-friendluMar 12 17:58
MinceRlolMar 12 17:58
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XRevan86There are rumours that Russia is planning a "referendum" in Kherson to declare a KhPR.Mar 12 18:01
XRevan86I wonder when Japan picks that strategy up and occupies a certain island.Mar 12 18:01
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techrights-newsEPO Advertises European Patents and Jobs Based on Deliberate Falsehoods (Lies) | Techrights โš“ | โ™พ Gemini address: gemini:// 12 18:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | EPO Advertises European Patents and Jobs Based on Deliberate Falsehoods (Lies) | TechrightsMar 12 18:04
schestowitz-TR2XRevan86: which island?Mar 12 18:05
schestowitz-TR2guam?Mar 12 18:05
schestowitz-TR2hawaii?Mar 12 18:05
schestowitz-TR2taiwan?Mar 12 18:06
MinceRprobably one of the chain connecting it to terrorussiaMar 12 18:06
MinceRor moreMar 12 18:06
schestowitz-TR2iirc, they once laid claims to it tooMar 12 18:06
schestowitz-TR2MinceR: korea :-)Mar 12 18:06
XRevan86 this oneMar 12 18:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Greater Kuril Chain - WikipediaMar 12 18:06
MinceRkorea is not an islandMar 12 18:06
schestowitz-TR2"comfort border"Mar 12 18:06
MinceRat least until northern korea is blown up with a WMD of sufficient power, anywayMar 12 18:07
MinceRor until the sea level rises sufficientlyMar 12 18:07
XRevan86or rather 12 18:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Kuril Islands - WikipediaMar 12 18:07
MinceRi suppose if they wanted another poor region, they could also occupy sakhalinMar 12 18:08
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schestowitz-TR2MinceR: sounds like a SUICIDE missionMar 12 18:09
XRevan86schestowitz: after WW2 the USSR took some islands from Japan.Mar 12 18:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Kuril Islands dispute - WikipediaMar 12 18:09
XRevan86> On March 7, 2022 Prime Minister of Japan Fumio Kishida declared that the southern Kurils are "a territory peculiar to Japan, a territory in which Japan has sovereignty." On March 8, Foreign Minister Yoshimasa Hayashi described the four islands as an "integral part" of Japan. This is in response to the Russian invasion of Ukraine.Mar 12 18:09
XRevan86Japan is jumping onto the bandwagon to get a piece of that pie.Mar 12 18:10
MinceRyou mean, to get back part of its territoryMar 12 18:10
techrights-newsA paradox. Windows itself is a toy or a game. You're being played, too. 12 18:11
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XRevan86MinceR: Maybe, just pointing out the opportunistic nature of the rhetoric.Mar 12 18:11
techrights-newsWine 7.4 Dev Released! Vkd3d bundle, Defauts to Light Theme 12 18:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Wine 7.4 changes the default theme and more PE conversion work | Tux MachinesMar 12 18:12
XRevan86MinceR: And of course that if Japan were to act like Russia, they could've resolved this dispute in a jiffy.Mar 12 18:14
MinceRif they knew that russia does not have nuclear attack capability, which we don't know with certaintyMar 12 18:15
techrights-newsHelp! Backspace Doesn't Work in the Linux Terminal <p><img src="" border="0" align="left" width="160" hspace="20" vspace="20" style="padding: 17px 17px 17px 17px; box-shadow: 5px 5px 5px #222;" /> <p class="dropcap-first"> <a href=""><img src="/files/read-on-white.png" alt="Read more" title="Read the rest of this article" /></a>Mar 12 18:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Help! Backspace Doesn't Work in the Linux TerminalMar 12 18:16
techrights-news of the big bad Linux desktop? Zorin 16.1 is hereMar 12 18:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Zorin OS 16.1 is Here, Creators to Donate All Profits from Zorin OS Pro to Aid Ukraine | Tux MachinesMar 12 18:18
perfectordamn weekend now ill have to wait till monday to get kernel updated to stable versionMar 12 18:19
techrights-newsAfraid of the big bad Linux desktop? Zorin 16.1 is here 12 18:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Zorin OS 16.1 is Here, Creators to Donate All Profits from Zorin OS Pro to Aid Ukraine | Tux MachinesMar 12 18:19
SomeH4x0rwtf are you adverising? Some crazy-paid-GNu/Linux?Mar 12 18:19
SomeH4x0r*GNUMar 12 18:19
techrights-newsTodayโ€™s #HowTos | #UNIX โ€ข Tux Machines โ‡จ 12 18:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | today's howtos | Tux MachinesMar 12 18:19
perfectorZorin is a windows look alikeMar 12 18:20
SomeH4x0rdevil creators should not be paidMar 12 18:20
perfectorwhat would you expect?Mar 12 18:20
SomeH4x0rpay once, distribute foreverMar 12 18:20
SomeH4x0rand refundMar 12 18:20
techrights-newsHas Gardiner Bryant defected over to marketing for Valve? see 12 18:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | The hidden way the Steam Deck will forever change your gaming experience. If you give it a chance... - InvidiousMar 12 18:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Circle of YouTube โ€œInfluencersโ€ | TechrightsMar 12 18:21
techrights-newsSteam Deck Benchmark Battle: I wasnโ€™t expecting this! - Invidious โš“ 12 18:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Steam Deck Benchmark Battle: I wasn't expecting this! - InvidiousMar 12 18:21
SomeH4x0rInternet could have been left money-free at least, if not fucking corporationsMar 12 18:22
techrights-newsThe EPO has long behaved like its sole goal was money maximisation, not science, let alone compliance with the EPC, so itโ€™s hardly surprising that it is stiffing its very own workers (who do and did all the actual work) 12 18:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | [Meme] EPO Behaving Like a Bank, Not Like a Patent Office | TechrightsMar 12 18:22
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perfectorcyberpunk stalled on steam os but not on windowsMar 12 18:26
techrights-newsThe images above, explained in the video below them, hopefully sum up the state of the Web, the state of โ€˜Youโ€™Tube (GulagTube), and the state of journalism; online cabals โ€” and sometimes corporate mobs โ€” are running ads as โ€œcontentโ€ 12 18:26
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techrights-newsThe workforce of Europeโ€™s largest patent office (notably patent examiners from all across Europe) is being robbed by corrupt management that illegally transformed the EPO into a gambling vessel, exploiting longstanding impunity to destroy not only the Office but also the European economy 12 18:27
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perfectorat 3,20mMar 12 18:28
techrights-news"A quick post today, but I just released comitium, yet another feed aggregator for Gemini! None of the other aggregators that I've found do quite everything I want them to do, so I decided to write my own." gemini:// 12 18:31
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techrights-news"I'm doing well! My hatred for the node ecosystem has reached previously unimaginable heights. Definitely justified." gemini:// 12 18:32
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perfectorwhat the node ecosystem?Mar 12 18:33
perfectorwhats the tor adress for gemini?Mar 12 18:34
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techrights-news"Today I set up GPG in my mutt on account. It wasn't as easy, as it could be. As always it is need to search some manual on the Internet, and look under the hood of the car." gemini:// 12 18:35
techrights-news"It is also interesting that the survey was conducted within a group of secondary school and college teachers. So where we expected a lot of interest in Gopher. Additionally, school teachers in the US and their counterparts in the world were listed." gemini:// 12 18:36
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techrights-news"If I don't need them Tasks, who does? Well, those poor souls called project managers, they need them. Their perspective on real life is totally different from mine. For them the mile-high pile of funny and not so funny details about my portion of real life is ... invisible." gemini:// 12 18:37
techrights-news"Ticket systems are not for the people who have to use them. They're for people who want to know "What are those tech people DOING??"" gemini:// 12 18:39
techrights-news8 Best Free and Open Source Wireless Security Tools โ€ข Tux Machines โ‡จ 12 18:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | 8 Best Free and Open Source Wireless Security Tools | Tux MachinesMar 12 18:39
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techrights-newsPinePhone Keyboard Review gemini:// "if you are looking for a small, lightweight, low-powered and cheap 'laptop' or 'PDA', you can definitely make do with this"Mar 12 18:41
techrights-news6 Best Open Source Firewall Distros (Updated 2022) โ€ข Tux Machines โ‡จ 12 18:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | 6 Best Open Source Firewall Distros (Updated 2022) | Tux MachinesMar 12 18:41
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techrights-news8 Best Whiteboard Apps for Linux: Useful for Teachers & Project Planners โ€ข Tux Machines โ‡จ 12 18:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | 8 Best Whiteboard Apps for Linux: Useful for Teachers & Project Planners | Tux MachinesMar 12 18:46
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techrights-newsGoogle #Android Leftovers โ€ข Tux Machines โ‡จ 12 18:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesMar 12 18:51
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techrights-newsManchester United 2 - 1 Tottenham Hotspur. Ronaldo on the scoresheet.Mar 12 18:52
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techrights-newsIrving Wladawsky-Berger: The Rise and Fall of Nation-States โš“ 12 18:54
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techrights-newsThomas Koch - lsp-java coming to debian โš“ ไท‰ #koch | more in 12 18:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Thomas Koch - lsp-java coming to debianMar 12 18:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Social Control Media PostsMar 12 19:00
techrights-newsKingdom of the Dead: Obra Dinn FPS, Review on Linux - Boiling Steam โš“ 12 19:01
techrights-newsDenemo 2.6 released โ€ข Tux Machines โ‡จ 12 19:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Kingdom of the Dead: Obra Dinn FPS, Review on Linux - Boiling SteamMar 12 19:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Denemo 2.6 released | Tux MachinesMar 12 19:01
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techrights-news"kitty is a terminal with some nice features (I particularly like the focus on low latency, and the best-in-class support for emoji) but with a rather unusual default configuration." 12 19:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Steinar H. GundersonMar 12 19:03
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techrights-newsYou know youโ€™ve been in Finland too long, whenโ€ฆ 12 19:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-You know youโ€™ve been in Finland too long, whenโ€ฆ | dt.iki.fiMar 12 19:04
techrights-newsDirk Eddelbuettel: RcppGSL 0.3.11: Small Maintenance 12 19:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Thinking inside the boxMar 12 19:05
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techrights-news"Spotted within the IGSCU FU in Linux, the Intel SOC3 which is the codename for the DG2-256 GPU has been spotted." 12 19:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Intel's Third Xe-HPG Powered DG2 GPU Spotted: DG2-256 'SOC3' With 256 EUs, 2048 ALUsMar 12 19:07
schestowitz-TR20/Mar 12 19:07
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techrights-news<a href=""><img src="/files/read-on-white.png" alt="Read more" title="Read the rest of this article" /></a>Mar 12 19:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Arch Linux Turns 20 - SlashdotMar 12 19:10
techrights-newsJolla brings AppSupport for Android apps on Linux platforms โ€ข Tux Machines โ‡จ 12 19:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Jolla brings AppSupport for Android apps on Linux platforms | Tux MachinesMar 12 19:10
techrights-newsTodayโ€™s #HowTos | #UNIX โ€ข Tux Machines โ‡จ 12 19:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | today's howtos | Tux MachinesMar 12 19:11
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bnchs___i wonder, who writes the punchline for the newsMar 12 19:14
bnchs___in techrights-news botMar 12 19:14
techrights-newsHey, "WindowsReport", tell Windows useds [sic] how to install REAL GNU/Linux, not Microsoft's fake that's an ATTACK on GNU/Linux 12 19:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | How to uninstall WSL in Windows 11Mar 12 19:15
techrights-newsMicrosoft-loving sites also love (bashing) Linux see Microsoft-loving sites also love (bashing) LinuxMar 12 19:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Security Leftovers | Tux MachinesMar 12 19:16
techrights-newsBTW, itโ€™s my birthday - Arch Linux becomes 20 years old today โ€ข Tux Machines โ‡จ 12 19:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | BTW, itโ€™s my birthday - Arch Linux becomes 20 years old today | Tux MachinesMar 12 19:16
techrights-newsSounds like someone has a "mancrush" 12 19:17
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techrights-newsManchester United 3 - 2 Tottenham Hotspur. 2 more mins+extra time.Mar 12 19:18
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techrights-newsJohn Cleese Absolutely OBLITERATES โ€™Wokeโ€™ BBC Interviewer on Her 'Cancel Culture Agenda' - Invidious โš“ 12 19:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | John Cleese Absolutely OBLITERATES 'Woke' BBC Interviewer on Her 'Cancel Culture Agenda' - InvidiousMar 12 19:29
techrights-newsHEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI 12 19:34
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Sandia: Brain-like neurochips chips useful in supercomputers โ€ข The RegisterMar 12 19:34
techrights-newsJoseph 'Stalin' Biden resorts to xenophobia in the dying economy that is his own. 12 19:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Biden Urges Americans to Blame Rising Prices on Putin. Many Do, for Now. - The New York TimesMar 12 19:37
bnchs__brain like neurochipsMar 12 19:37
bnchs__so they're planning to put brains in supercomputersMar 12 19:37
MinceRyum yumMar 12 19:37
bnchs__but don't worryMar 12 19:37
bnchs__it's "brain-like neurochips"Mar 12 19:37
techrights-newsWhen the real economy is collapsing no wonder many run away to fake/parallel ones 12 19:38
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Biden issues Executive Order to tame digital currencies โ€ข The RegisterMar 12 19:38
schestowitz-TR2just don't forget to cook the semiconductor first Mar 12 19:38
schestowitz-TR2to kill the germsMar 12 19:38
techrights-news"The Canadian government is investing CA$240m ($187m) to boost the country's semiconductor and photonics segments in hopes of bolstering its role in the global market." 12 19:39
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MinceRmake it crispyMar 12 19:39
bnchs__proprietary source code leaks are bad for free softwareMar 12 19:43
MinceRif it's bad for free software, you can bet on it happening a lot moreMar 12 19:45
techrights-newsTrust in British media almost lowest in the whole of EU - Invidious โš“ 12 19:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | John Cleese on Brexit, newspapers and why he's leaving the UK - BBC Newsnight - InvidiousMar 12 19:46
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techrights-newsAkin to Trump-era blackmail 12 19:57
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | US warns Chinese chipmakers: Don't sell to Russia โ€ข The RegisterMar 12 19:57
techrights-newsFSF appoints program manager Kooyman as executive director 12 20:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Free Software Foundation announces new executive director, Zoรซ Kooyman | Tux MachinesMar 12 20:02
techrights-newsThe mainframe is dying: just like IBM... 12 20:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The mainframe is dying: Long live the mainframe application! | CIOMar 12 20:04
techrights-newsHereโ€™s how I brought a 2010 MacBook Pro back to life โ€ข Tux Machines โ‡จ 12 20:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Here's how I brought a 2010 MacBook Pro back to life | Tux MachinesMar 12 20:05
techrights-newsGulag collusion 12 20:07
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Google and Meta ad deal under investigation in Europe โ€ข The RegisterMar 12 20:07
techrights-newsyourMar 12 20:09
MinceRno, yourMar 12 20:09
techrights-news"This is often done with a "TOTP app" or "Token-Based Authenticator", which is normally installed on your smartphone." IOW, a back door. Bad solution. gemini:// 12 20:09
schestowitz-TR2MinceR: O U!Mar 12 20:09
MinceR:)Mar 12 20:09
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techrights-ipfs-bot โ–•  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: โ–„โ–…โ–„โ–ƒโ–†โ–†โ–…โ–‡โ–‡โ–…โ–†โ–‚โ–ƒโ–‡โ–…โ–โ–„โ–…โ–…โ–…โ–ˆโ–‚โ–†โ–‡โ–‡โ–โ–„โ–…โ–โ–…โ–‡โ–†โ–ƒโ– avg(k/sec) 38.51 โ–•  IPFS upstream: โ–โ–โ–โ–‚โ–โ–โ–‚โ–โ–‚โ–โ–โ–‚โ–โ–‚โ–‚โ–ƒโ–โ–โ–‚โ–โ–โ–โ–โ–‚โ–‚โ–‚โ–โ–โ–โ–‚โ–โ–‚โ–‚โ–ˆโ– avg(k/sec) 46.25โ–• swarm size (avg): 276.44  โŸฒMar 12 20:10
techrights-ipfs-bot โ–•  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: โ–„โ–…โ–„โ–ƒโ–†โ–†โ–…โ–‡โ–‡โ–…โ–†โ–‚โ–ƒโ–‡โ–…โ–โ–„โ–…โ–…โ–…โ–ˆโ–‚โ–†โ–‡โ–‡โ–โ–„โ–…โ–โ–…โ–‡โ–†โ–ƒโ– avg(k/sec) 38.51 โ–•  IPFS upstream: โ–โ–โ–โ–‚โ–โ–โ–‚โ–โ–‚โ–โ–โ–‚โ–โ–‚โ–‚โ–ƒโ–โ–โ–‚โ–โ–โ–โ–โ–‚โ–‚โ–‚โ–โ–โ–โ–‚โ–โ–‚โ–‚โ–ˆโ– avg(k/sec) 46.25โ–• swarm size (avg): 276.44  โŸฒMar 12 20:10
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techrights-newsThe Register now pushes fake news for Microsoft Azure, which not only failed but also has layoffs. They use fictional meters to make it seem like AWS loses to Microsoft.Mar 12 20:25
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perfectoranyone in hereMar 12 20:33
XRevan86Is there anybody in there?Mar 12 20:33
techrights-newsGreenwashing and glorification of surveillance. Forbes = the voice of oligarchy. 12 20:33
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XRevan86Just nod if ye can hear me.Mar 12 20:33
*perfector nodsMar 12 20:34
activelowDobra VecherMar 12 20:34
techrights-newsPump-n-dumping. Financial webspam is abundant, as journalism online is so rare. 12 20:34
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perfectordobra arashovaMar 12 20:35
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perfectori fuess with this war gpus will get even more expensive?Mar 12 20:36
perfectorkeep checking BTC in the hopes it collapses for month nowMar 12 20:39
activelowrumors were, some banks will default, in april, supposedly russian'sMar 12 20:40
MinceRdidn't the european branch of sberbank already default?Mar 12 20:41
activelowdefault how? russia was hoarding a surplus of cashMar 12 20:41
perfector 12 20:41
activelowdidn't see any latest TARGET2 balances anymore for some time... soon we'll knowMar 12 20:42
perfectorits the Larry music :)Mar 12 20:42
psydroid2why are gpus so important?Mar 12 20:42
schestowitz-TR2gamezzzzMar 12 20:42
activelowthey aren't; directfb/libsdl2 render many linux games nicely, with the main-cpu into framebufferMar 12 20:43
schestowitz-TR2gameZ wihout tonx of ploygons cannot possibly be enjoyableMar 12 20:43
activelowand, there's many games availableMar 12 20:43
perfectormy gpu over 10 years oldMar 12 20:44
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perfectoronly 1gb vramMar 12 20:45
schestowitz-TR2my over 10 year old is a GPU ;-)Mar 12 20:45
schestowitz-TR2perfector: does yo mama know?Mar 12 20:45
perfectorminimum now is 2 gb vramMar 12 20:45
schestowitz-TR2only "poor" people have "old" GPUsMar 12 20:46
schestowitz-TR2or "phones" that have "only" one core CPUMar 12 20:46
perfectoronly rich people have new onesMar 12 20:46
schestowitz-TR2we really need 8 parallel cores working to make a phonecall ;-)Mar 12 20:46
schestowitz-TR2perfector: computer need to eat up 100 wattsMar 12 20:46
perfectorto think i could have goten 150 euros gpu that now costs 300+Mar 12 20:46
schestowitz-TR2not 5 like my wife'sMar 12 20:47
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schestowitz-TR2if computers become more efficientyMar 12 20:47
perfectori was aiming for r570Mar 12 20:47
schestowitz-TR2they will add bloatMar 12 20:47
schestowitz-TR2to keep sales goingMar 12 20:47
DaemonFCSamsung adds bloat so fast that they make negative progress on CPU resources.Mar 12 20:48
perfectorso fucking dumbMar 12 20:48
DaemonFCIt's almost unreal that the phone is just overflowing with junk.Mar 12 20:48
DaemonFCWhat kind of company would do that to their own product?Mar 12 20:48
techrights-newsHEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI! APPLY TODAY!! HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI. "AI Platform Senior Software Developer..." Then you have recruits on the phone asking about "Smart" and "Clown" and "HEY HI"Mar 12 20:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | AI Platform Senior Software Developer - Semi Remote - R680 Per hour at eMerge IT Recruitment - IT-OnlineMar 12 20:49
psydroid2integrated gpus are becoming pretty goodMar 12 20:49
perfectorwhat do you mean you dont think more stuff is better what are you a socialist?Mar 12 20:49
psydroid2and don't cost a fortuneMar 12 20:49
schestowitz-TR2psydroid2: worse!Mar 12 20:49
schestowitz-TR2"efficiency nazis"Mar 12 20:50
psydroid2lolMar 12 20:50
perfectormore stuff is to make your life more eficientMar 12 20:51
techrights-newsHa! I almost spat out my coffee when I scrolled down to pricing. Come on, Apple, add a trigger warning for laughter. 12 20:51
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psydroid2or less efficient?Mar 12 20:51
psydroid2by getting you to buy stuff that you don't really needMar 12 20:51
schestowitz-TR2psydroid2: we need clippy in text editorsMar 12 20:51
schestowitz-TR2sending to the "clown" what we typeMar 12 20:51
schestowitz-TR2for suggestionsMar 12 20:51
perfectormore efficient at having a fulfilling experienceMar 12 20:52
schestowitz-TR2and the microphone doing TTS and vice versaMar 12 20:52
schestowitz-TR2get them core used up!Mar 12 20:52
psydroid2what is a fulfilling experience?Mar 12 20:52
psydroid2yoga?Mar 12 20:52
DaemonFC 12 20:52
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psydroid2meditation?Mar 12 20:52
DaemonFCVPNs are illegal in Russia, I think.Mar 12 20:52
perfectorread bloated experienceMar 12 20:52
DaemonFCCNN says Russian "smart"phone users are downloading them anyway. By the millions.Mar 12 20:52
schestowitz-TR2DaemonFC: maybe the ones their intel services cannot crackMar 12 20:52
DaemonFCTor bridges probably work.Mar 12 20:52
perfectorthats why they fill it with stofMar 12 20:52
schestowitz-TR2i.e. similar to most countriesMar 12 20:52
perfectormore stuff more fullfiled you shoul feelMar 12 20:53
DaemonFC"Switzerland-based Proton, for example, told CNN Business it has seen a 1,000% spike in signups from Russia this month."Mar 12 20:53
schestowitz-TR2Proton LOLMar 12 20:53
schestowitz 12 20:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-proton french activist - Google SearchMar 12 20:54
schestowitzsclient=gws-wizMar 12 20:54
psydroid2trying to mask Valve's Proton nowMar 12 20:54
perfectorproton is from steamMar 12 20:54
schestowitzrun that through gulagMar 12 20:54
DaemonFCProtonMailMar 12 20:54
DaemonFCSame company as ProtonVPN?Mar 12 20:54
schestowitzno laack of coveragedMar 12 20:54
schestowitzDaemonFC: sameMar 12 20:54
schestowitzyes, I think same companyMar 12 20:54
schestowitz 12 20:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | ProtonVPN - WikipediaMar 12 20:55
schestowitz"ProtonVPN is a VPN service operated by the Swiss company Proton Technologies AG, the company behind the email service ProtonMail."Mar 12 20:55
schestowitzThey uses Swizerland for marketingMar 12 20:55
schestowitzSwizerland is OK for chocolateMar 12 20:55
schestowitzand tax evasionMar 12 20:55
schestowitzand that's about itMar 12 20:55
schestowitzfor ski you can go somewhere else, pay lessMar 12 20:55
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perfectortax evasion not so muchMar 12 20:56
DaemonFC"The bridge, which is listed on the National Register of Historic Places, has been hit well over 20 times now."Mar 12 20:56
perfectori think ireland is betterMar 12 20:56
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perfectorso does google and facebook ...Mar 12 20:57
DaemonFCMinceR, You'd think that someone would read the height clearance on the truck and the height clearance on the bridge.Mar 12 20:57
DaemonFCAnd go "You know, 11 feet is bigger than 8.5 feet. I think I'd better go around!".Mar 12 20:57
techrights-newsIt would be obsolete if more people used ODF 12 20:58
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DaemonFCIn fact, smart people leave room for error.Mar 12 20:58
DaemonFCIf the height clearance of the truck is over 8 feet and the bridge says the clearance is 8.5, I probably still wouldn't go in there.Mar 12 20:58
DaemonFCThis is 2nd grade math.Mar 12 20:58
perfectorpdf is an apple thingMar 12 20:59
DaemonFCI've seen cases where the signage was wrong and someone went inside a tunnel and got stuck.Mar 12 20:59
perfectorthats why it took offMar 12 20:59
DaemonFCAnd the police fined them anyway, even though the sign said they were okay.Mar 12 20:59
techrights-newsNo, Samsung, we don't need so much RAM and CPU cores... on a "phone" or 64,000,000 crude, lousy pixels from undersized aperture. Massive files, no crispness.Mar 12 20:59
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DaemonFCschestowitz, Samsung supplies Google with CPUs for the Pixel phones.Mar 12 20:59
DaemonFCBut it's not bogged down under crapware, so the battery lasts a lot longer on the Pixel.Mar 12 21:00
MinceRDaemonFC: 12 21:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> | The Definitive 11Foot8 Bridge Crash Compilation - InvidiousMar 12 21:00
perfectorthere an android decrapifier thingMar 12 21:00
perfectorbut its complicatedMar 12 21:00
DaemonFCMinceR, "Excellence Moving and Storage, Inc."......Mar 12 21:00
DaemonFCExcellent!Mar 12 21:00
perfectorwhats this thing about bridges?Mar 12 21:01
DaemonFCWow, that's like a cumpilation of trucks getting destroyed by overpasses.Mar 12 21:01
techrights-newsWordPress became so ubiquitous. I was involved in its earlier yearsMar 12 21:02
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perfectorits like giant can opennersMar 12 21:02
schestowitz-TR2DaemonFC: yes, gulag and android I lost interest in before android OMar 12 21:03
schestowitz-TR2when they started toggling bugs (listening devices) onMar 12 21:04
schestowitz-TR2it became of no interest to meMar 12 21:04
DaemonFCMinceR, 3:00..... They had the top line of their "Budget" shaved.Mar 12 21:04
schestowitz-TR2their clients are not the usersMar 12 21:04
MinceR:>Mar 12 21:04
schestowitz-TR2but carriers, hardware companies, governments, and "clown"Mar 12 21:05
schestowitz-TR2the buyers are the productsMar 12 21:05
DaemonFCLet's admit something here, MinceR schestowitz-TR2 too because he's British.Mar 12 21:05
schestowitzMinceR: 12 21:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Here's how I brought a 2010 MacBook Pro back to life | Tux MachinesMar 12 21:05
schestowitzthose machines can be redeemedMar 12 21:05
DaemonFCJames Bond has been going downhill for a lot of reasons, but the quality and quantity of the quips has been a big one.Mar 12 21:05
schestowitzthe brand?Mar 12 21:06
MinceRschestowitz: and they still remain low quality, tacky crapMar 12 21:06
schestowitzfranchise?Mar 12 21:06
schestowitzor the latest flick?Mar 12 21:06
DaemonFCYeah.Mar 12 21:06
schestowitzwhich one?Mar 12 21:06
DaemonFCWell, both.Mar 12 21:06
schestowitzwatch 12 21:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | John Cleese on Brexit, newspapers and why he's leaving the UK - BBC Newsnight - InvidiousMar 12 21:06
DaemonFCThe latest one just kills everyone that's supposed to have main plot armor, and it does it in such a stupid way.Mar 12 21:06
schestowitzwhere he explains why monty python became MORE popular in the US than the UKMar 12 21:07
schestowitzit's in the first 1-2 minsMar 12 21:07
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DaemonFCThe opening songs have been pretty bad too.Mar 12 21:08
schestowitz-TR2from rusha wif luvMar 12 21:08
DaemonFCAdele was the last good opening they had.Mar 12 21:08
schestowitz-TR2goldfingerMar 12 21:08
schestowitz-TR2tomorrow never diesMar 12 21:08
DaemonFCNow it's just 5 more minutes to take a piss in case the 30 minutes of commercials past movie start time wasn't enough.Mar 12 21:08
schestowitz-TR2"tomorrow never dies" was very goodMar 12 21:09
DaemonFCWell, all British comedy isn't bad. Mr. Bean was always incredibly funny.Mar 12 21:09
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schestowitzTOMORROW NEVER DIES | 007 commandeers a jet - Invidious โš“ Mar 12 21:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | TOMORROW NEVER DIES | 007 commandeers a jet - InvidiousMar 12 21:09
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DaemonFCRed Dwarf used to be. Most stuff on "Dave TV" has been a retread.Mar 12 21:09
schestowitzopening song 12 21:10
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DaemonFCUp through 1999, Red Dwarf was good. It was really low budget but it wasn't serious so you didn't care.Mar 12 21:10
schestowitzheryl Crow can singMar 12 21:10
schestowitzunlke 99% of today's co-called 'singers'Mar 12 21:10
schestowitzthey try cto compensate for it with manipulation of voices in studiosMar 12 21:11
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DaemonFCYeah, everyone can sing along with the James Bond themes through Adele for the most part.Mar 12 21:11
DaemonFCAnd then they've been striking out bad.Mar 12 21:11
DaemonFCThe older ones were the best.Mar 12 21:11
schestowitz4the production behind this song is also goodMar 12 21:11
schestowitzthe instruments, the renditionMar 12 21:11
DaemonFCI don't even remember who did the latest one.Mar 12 21:12
schestowitznow they fear copyright lawsuits and so they rely on drum machines and "sound engineers"Mar 12 21:12
DaemonFCschestowitz, He talks about trust in media.Mar 12 21:12
DaemonFC22% among the Dutch.Mar 12 21:12
DaemonFCIt's less than that among Americans in the media here.Mar 12 21:12
DaemonFCOnly about 2% of US adults watch cable news, at all.Mar 12 21:13
schestowitzthe complexity of songs nd music fell sharplyMar 12 21:13
DaemonFC98.something percent don't watch it at all.Mar 12 21:13
schestowitznumber of simultaneous instrumentrsMar 12 21:13
DaemonFCSo it's 98%+ don't watch it.Mar 12 21:13
schestowitzthe skills were lostMar 12 21:13
DaemonFCTheir goal is to brainwash extremists and get their talking points out there.Mar 12 21:13
schestowitzI guess nowadays they don't teach people how to composeMar 12 21:13
DaemonFCThen when your friends and family repeat them, then they burrow into your brain.Mar 12 21:13
DaemonFCBecause you don't listen to some idiot on some corrupt and fake news, but you might trust your mom or brother or friend at work more.Mar 12 21:14
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DaemonFCCleese talks about race relations in the Caribbean.Mar 12 21:15
techrights-newsMaybe rename the company? 12 21:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-eCommerce Tumbles for Dick's Sporting Goods | PYMNTS.comMar 12 21:16
DaemonFCIn the US they're generally pretty good, except between black people and most everyone else.Mar 12 21:16
techrights-newsHEY HI HEY HI HEY HI. Now that call everything that... 12 21:17
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DaemonFCEveryone else sees the spectacles playing out. The crime, the nonsense, how it takes all of the cops in the city because some nutcase is trying to set the train car on fire with gasoline.Mar 12 21:17
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DaemonFCAnd they go "What in the fuck is actually going on here?".Mar 12 21:17
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DaemonFCAnd I admit that if anything, you know, I never thought about black people until I moved to Chicago.Mar 12 21:17
DaemonFCAnd so if I was maybe a 2 or a 3 on a 10 point aversion scale, that brought me up to like an 8 or a 9.Mar 12 21:18
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DaemonFCBecause it went from being "Oh that's just Fox News making noise, talking nonsense, no way it's that bad HOLY SHIT!"Mar 12 21:18
DaemonFCAnd then black people don't like anyone else that much because the corrupt media has taught them they should feel no shame or embarrassment for what goes on and that they shouldn't be expected to pull their weight and that they're all victims of some centuries old conspiracy.Mar 12 21:19
DaemonFCSo they hate white people, they really know not why, and they use it as a pretext for whatever they want to do.Mar 12 21:20
schestowitzThis is funny 12 21:20
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DaemonFCSo the media has been incredibly corrosive because if it didn't gloss over, like, everything George Floyd did to bring the situation about, and it went right to what the police did.Mar 12 21:20
DaemonFCWhich mind you, is not always right either.Mar 12 21:20
DaemonFCThen people see that shit and they go and burn and loot and raise hell, against people who have had no part in making their lives bad.Mar 12 21:21
techrights-newsGulag might even care ABOUT REAL SECURITY.... one day 12 21:21
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DaemonFCAgainst each other, even. Figure that shit out.Mar 12 21:21
DaemonFCThe "against each other" part should let you in on something.Mar 12 21:21
DaemonFCAt that point, it's not even remotely about "white people" at all.Mar 12 21:22
techrights-newsLOL. A bubble like never before? Who fabricates these numbers??? 12 21:22
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perfectormore flodding?Mar 12 21:22
perfectorwith racial xrap?Mar 12 21:22
DaemonFCAnd the fake news like NBC, NPR, CNN, they have people who obey the law, who are victims of criminals, against the police, so the police pull out and the crime gets worse.Mar 12 21:22
perfectorDaemonFC: whyy dont you take your gun and go fight in ucraniaMar 12 21:23
DaemonFCCleese was talking race relations and how bad they were in most of the world.Mar 12 21:23
perfectormaybe you sotp flooding this channel with crapMar 12 21:23
DaemonFCIt occurs to me frequently that people who have never had to live here and put up with it and witness anything seem to know all of the answers.Mar 12 21:23
perfectorstop the copy pastingMar 12 21:23
DaemonFC"Hurry up and fix the world while you still know everything!"Mar 12 21:24
DaemonFCMonty Python wouldn't fly today.Mar 12 21:25
DaemonFCThe parts that make it funny.Mar 12 21:25
DaemonFCAnd it's the same reason why Married With Children could never come back with scripts like that.Mar 12 21:25
techrights-newsThis is a lie: "Microsoft has gone out of its way to bolster the Windows 10 system against attack and compromise" No, they add back doors: 12 21:25
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DaemonFCmjg59_ would see a fat woman that Al Bundy was making fun of or a man in a dress in the Galaxy Song clip and he'd have an infarction.Mar 12 21:25
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techrights-newsThe espionage family is trying openwashing now. Yes, we spy on the planet, but open open something 12 21:26
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DaemonFCThen he'd probably start a petition nobody really cares about on Microsoft GitHub, except it would work this time because when 0.5% of people who are just dicks with no sense of humor get mad about something, they puff themselves up to look like an army of internet trolls.Mar 12 21:27
bnchs__i mean proprietary source code actually ruin free software implementation of that software that got leakedMar 12 21:27
DaemonFCAnd so they extract concessions, and then the concessions cause the brand to lose customers who actually pay to watch it.Mar 12 21:27
bnchs__since there's gonna be more legal checksMar 12 21:27
bnchs__and probably lawsuit-happy with code that looks very similar to their codeMar 12 21:27
perfector"leaked"Mar 12 21:28
bnchs__yes "leaked"Mar 12 21:28
bnchs__they do this to sabotage the legality of the softwareMar 12 21:28
DaemonFCAfter Disney was compelled to fire Gina Carano over her unrelated Twitter account, Disney+ new subscriptions (net) stopped and then fell.Mar 12 21:28
perfectoriys markting alsoMar 12 21:28
DaemonFCAnd now they think that some cheap tier that bothers people with a lot of ads will make up for that.Mar 12 21:28
DaemonFCAnd they don't realize that this is all in line with "Go woke, go broke.".Mar 12 21:29
DaemonFCCoca Cola did the same thing. They said they didn't want any money from white people.Mar 12 21:29
DaemonFCNow you can barely sell it in the state they're headquartered in.Mar 12 21:30
AdmFubar1people don't want to but overpriced sugar water anymore that is the reasonMar 12 21:30
AdmFubar1go look at there other product salesMar 12 21:31
DaemonFCMinceR, 3:51 Two Men and a TruckMar 12 21:31
DaemonFCSome lady tracked them with an Airtag and proved that they were a few miles from her house when they said they were several states away and that's what was taking her furniture so long.Mar 12 21:31
DaemonFC<AdmFubar1> people don't want to but overpriced sugar water anymore that is the reasonMar 12 21:32
DaemonFCMexicans buy a ton of it.Mar 12 21:32
DaemonFCMandy was showing me a video of a woman practicing some sort of witchcraft with dead chickens and Coca Cola to cure some dude's cancer.Mar 12 21:32
bnchs__i thought it was chad zuckerburgMar 12 21:32
bnchs__but no it's chan zuckerbergMar 12 21:33
psydroid2I think I've just permanently switched from KDE Plasma to MATE on this laptop tooMar 12 21:33
psydroid2and things feel so much fasterMar 12 21:33
bnchs__i still use xfceMar 12 21:33
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techrights-newsBlame HEY HI HEY HI. No algorithms. Not programmings. Not companies... It's thhhhheee Heeeeeey Aiiiiiiii 12 21:40
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techrights-news"your mom dies in a car accident? it's the hey hi, real sorry, lol..."Mar 12 21:41
techrights-newsWindows TCO 12 21:42
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Stolen NVIDIA certificates are now used to sign malware - VideoCardz.comMar 12 21:42
DaemonFC6:01 I'll be that buffs right out. MinceR Mar 12 21:42
bnchs__lol stolen nvidia keys are used to sign malwareMar 12 21:42
bnchs__i like how windows doesn't warn you when the drivers a program is trying to install is signedMar 12 21:43
MinceRbut code signing was supposed to save us from all malware!Mar 12 21:43
techrights-news"a decade since Google released Android 3.0 Honeycomb, the first version of the companyโ€™s mobile operating system specifically designed for tablets." 12 21:43
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schestowitz-TR2MinceR: adjust the hey hi a littleMar 12 21:43
MinceRlolMar 12 21:44
DaemonFC6:31 The funniest thing so far, actually.Mar 12 21:44
schestowitz-TR2"heuristics" Mar 12 21:44
DaemonFCThey destroy the bridge and the stop sign.Mar 12 21:44
bnchs__the AI can speed up internet speedMar 12 21:44
bnchs__the AI can do everythingMar 12 21:44
bnchs__self-driving car crashes itself to a tree?Mar 12 21:44
bnchs__no that's the AI manMar 12 21:44
techrights-newsSlower production? Good. For the planet, too. 12 21:45
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Chip world's major suppliers of neon gas shutter in Ukraine โ€ข The RegisterMar 12 21:45
DaemonFC6:43 "Captain's Log: USS Enterprise OOOFFFFFFF"Mar 12 21:45
techrights-newsGartner is a lie firm. Stop propping up frauds and liars. 12 21:45
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | 2 out of 3 IT staffers plan to switch from current work โ€ข The RegisterMar 12 21:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Gartner Group - TechrightsMar 12 21:45
DaemonFCI like how whatever happens in a city, black people jsut keep walking and don't even look at it.Mar 12 21:46
DaemonFC"After a while, nothing bothers you anymore."Mar 12 21:46
techrights-newsThe CA 'cartels' or pyramid scheme revealed for what it is... or was all along 12 21:46
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Moscow to issue TLS certificates to Russian websites โ€ข The RegisterMar 12 21:46
bnchs__what makes you think only black people just keep walkingMar 12 21:46
techrights-newsOf course Microsoft ("you may remember me from Microsoft loves Linux and Ukraine loves Putin") will deny a port to GNU/Linux 12 21:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Quake Remastered: 5 reasons to revisit this quarter-century-old FPS masterpieceMar 12 21:48
bnchs__you know who will also deny a port to GNU/Linux, epig gaymesMar 12 21:48
schestowitz-TR2bnchs__: he is just openly racistMar 12 21:48
schestowitz-TR2bnchs__: who runs epig games?Mar 12 21:48
bnchs__tim swine-eMar 12 21:48
MinceRe-pig gamesMar 12 21:49
schestowitz-TR2oinkay, I get itMar 12 21:49
perfectorforthnight already runs on linuxMar 12 21:49
techrights-newsWall Street DESPERATE for "external devil" 12 21:49
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Opinion | Americaโ€™s Right Has a Putin Problem - The New York TimesMar 12 21:49
perfectorandroid/linuxMar 12 21:49
bnchs__perfector, yes but he won't port to GNU/LinuxMar 12 21:50
bnchs__because anti-cheats and maybe some microsoft biasMar 12 21:50
techrights-newsNo, JavaScript is not a community. There's plenty of evidence of that. 12 21:50
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DaemonFC 12 21:50
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DaemonFCThey can ban you from game shows for doing too well.Mar 12 21:50
DaemonFCNice.Mar 12 21:50
bnchs__" The uploader has not made this video available in your country "Mar 12 21:51
bnchs__youtube regionlocked itMar 12 21:51
perfector" The uploader has not made this video available in your country "Mar 12 21:51
techrights-newsI'm sure Huawei would protest a lot if/when China physically invades Taiwan with tanks 12 21:51
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Huawei UK board members resign over Ukraine stance โ€ข The RegisterMar 12 21:51
bnchs__i'm pretty sure it's a US only thingMar 12 21:52
bnchs__ 12 21:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | This Math Genius Was Banned From 'The Price Is Right' (Superhuman Documentary) | Real Stories - InvidiousMar 12 21:52
perfectorisnt there a nitter thing for youtube?Mar 12 21:52
bnchs__yes it's invidiousMar 12 21:52
techrights-newsWhat's with this picture? 12 21:53
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Opinion | The Supreme Court Did the Right Thing. Iโ€™m Still Worried. - The New York TimesMar 12 21:53
techrights-newsAs if Russia suffers from this. Well, this does come to shown 'clown' computing is a suicide cult. 12 21:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Photo industry sanctions Russia - Inside ImagingMar 12 21:55
techrights-news"Runa Sandvik, who has previously helped journalists secure their devices and data at The New York Times, Freedom of the Press Foundation and the Tor Project, recently discussed her work on the Decipher Podcast. This is a condensed and edited version of the conversation." 12 21:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Q&A: Runa Sandvik | DecipherMar 12 21:56
schestowitz[21:52] <bnchs__> yes it's invidiousMar 12 21:57
schestowitzwe need one for s**t hubMar 12 21:57
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bnchs__there's already mirrors likeMar 12 21:57
bnchs__mirror for github issuesMar 12 21:57
bnchs__mirror for github wikiMar 12 21:57
schestowitz-TR2url?Mar 12 21:58
techrights-ipfs-bot โ–•  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: โ–†โ–„โ–„โ–‡โ–…โ–‚โ–ƒโ–ƒโ–ƒโ–…โ–†โ–‚โ–†โ–‡โ–„โ–…โ–‚โ–…โ–…โ–…โ–‡โ–โ–…โ–…โ–†โ–†โ–‡โ–โ–‚โ–ƒโ–ƒโ–„โ–…โ–ƒโ– avg(k/sec) 22.83 โ–•  IPFS upstream: โ–โ–‚โ–โ–โ–‚โ–โ–‚โ–โ–‚โ–โ–โ–‚โ–ˆโ–‚โ–‚โ–‚โ–โ–โ–‚โ–‚โ–โ–‚โ–‡โ–โ–‚โ–‚โ–‚โ–ˆโ–โ–โ–‚โ–โ– avg(k/sec) 52.40โ–• swarm size (avg): 276.45  โŸฒMar 12 21:58
bnchs__ 12 21:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - ikkentim/WikiClone: Mirror your GitHub wiki with ease.Mar 12 21:59
schestowitz-TR2lol!!Mar 12 21:59
schestowitz-TR2hosted on githubMar 12 21:59
bnchs__yes ironicMar 12 21:59
schestowitz-TR2recursive humour ensuesMar 12 21:59
schestowitz-TR2what happens if I report an issue to them in github?Mar 12 21:59
bnchs__it's also years deadMar 12 22:00
schestowitz-TR2error: replication exhuasted. Disk space not availabke.Mar 12 22:00
DaemonFCTwinings Earl Grey is really disappointing.Mar 12 22:00
schestowitz-TR2yeahMar 12 22:00
schestowitz-TR2it sucksMar 12 22:00
DaemonFCBigelow (an American brand) is much stronger than that.Mar 12 22:00
DaemonFC2/3rds the price too.Mar 12 22:00
DaemonFCI kept finding myself using two teabags per cup with Twinings, which makes it more expensive still.Mar 12 22:01
techrights-newsDoes not say which OS is impacted. Too value, maybe intentionally. 12 22:02
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Canadian extradited to US on NetWalker ransomware charges โ€ข The RegisterMar 12 22:02
techrights-newsDoes not say which OS is impacted. Too vague, maybe intentionally. 12 22:02
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techrights-newsSecurity Leftovers โ€ข Tux Machines โ‡จ 12 22:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Security Leftovers | Tux MachinesMar 12 22:02
techrights-newsWait, this is what the US wanted when it sought to expand NATO to the border of Russia 12 22:02
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Opinion | Putin Wants a Clash of Civilizations. Is โ€˜The Westโ€™ Falling for It? - The New York TimesMar 12 22:02
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techrights-newsSome of these run natively on GNU/Linux, the rest can use WINE 12 22:04
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-25 Best City Builder Games You Canโ€™t Afford To Miss - GameranxMar 12 22:04
techrights-newsIt should say lay OFF. Notice how they spin bad news as "GROWTH" ... in a PAID-FOR "press" [lie] "release" 12 22:05
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techrights-newsOK, so the criminals from Microsoft needs to bribe Jim Zemlin and his corrupt friends some more to help with the greenwashing lies see 12 22:06
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Microsoftโ€™s Pursuit of Climate Goals Runs Into Headwinds - The New York TimesMar 12 22:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Linux Foundation Has Become Even Worse Than Climate Science Deniers | TechrightsMar 12 22:06
immibis intel, just like all other publicly traded companies, will make you pay extra to unlock features you already boughtMar 12 22:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Thoughts on software-defined silicon []Mar 12 22:07
schestowitz-TR2why not?Mar 12 22:07
DaemonFCPicard says "What the hell is this!?" and the android says "Colombian Roast, black", and Picard says "This truly is the circle Dante didn't mention.".Mar 12 22:07
schestowitz-TR2tiered customer experiencesMar 12 22:07
MinceR(cat) (no audio) 12 22:07
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DaemonFCColombian Roast is goo, it's expensive.Mar 12 22:07
schestowitz-TR2remember 7 editions of Vista?Mar 12 22:07
DaemonFCI would never drink it black though.Mar 12 22:08
schestowitz-TR2"no wallpaper changes for you!!"Mar 12 22:08
DaemonFC*goodMar 12 22:08
schestowitz-TR2goo AND goodMar 12 22:08
DaemonFC:/Mar 12 22:08
immibisDaemonFC: oh you're back. You never explained what makes a constitution legitimateMar 12 22:08
DaemonFCPassed with the consent of the governed for starters.Mar 12 22:08
bnchs__ 12 22:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | I installed Windows on Steam Deck and I regret it - InvidiousMar 12 22:09
DaemonFCI've voted on some (state) constitutional amendments. One of them passed, the other didn't.Mar 12 22:09
bnchs__i don't get linusMar 12 22:09
DaemonFCThere's another one coming up.Mar 12 22:09
immibisTo summarize the previous conversation: (1) DaemonFC thinks that if you break a law and get the punishment defined by law then you deserve it (2) I think laws can be unjust and deliver undeserved punishments. What about Hitler making a law saying Jews must be gassed? (3) DaemonFC says that would be an illegitimate law because it would be against the constitution. (4) We now argue about constitutionsMar 12 22:09
bnchs__>installs windows on a device made for GNU/LinuxMar 12 22:09
bnchs__>gets surprised when it doesn't workMar 12 22:09
MinceRit's made for systemd/Linux, sadlyMar 12 22:10
bnchs__this is the same guy who managed to brick gnu/linux by installing steam (with TONS of package conflicts) and not reading the terminalMar 12 22:10
techrights-newsHow much do IBM and Red Hat pay the NC media to spread these lies and corporate propaganda? This isn't journalism, it's just embarrassing "IBM has defined a clear strategy to lead in the era of hybrid cloud and AI." HEY! Hi! Tell me more!Mar 12 22:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | IBM CEO hails Big Blue progress: โ€˜We donโ€™t just create business value; we create progressโ€™ | WRAL TechWireMar 12 22:10
DaemonFCHmm, watching Pawn Stars.Mar 12 22:11
MinceRoh, linus sebastian? lolMar 12 22:11
DaemonFCGuy has a 1984 Olympic boxing ticket.Mar 12 22:11
bnchs__yes linus sebastianMar 12 22:11
MinceRthe illiterate dumbass who can't tell the difference between blocking ads and violating copyrightMar 12 22:11
psydroid2linus windows shill?Mar 12 22:11
techrights-newsThey've taken the mask off. US tech companies are just extensions of military/imperialism/hegemony, disguised thinly... as "neutral" 12 22:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bloomberg - Are you a robot?Mar 12 22:12
bnchs__his game-addicted brain can't read the terminalMar 12 22:12
DaemonFCThat was the one the Soviet Union boycotted.Mar 12 22:12
bnchs__so he blames it on the OSMar 12 22:12
MinceR(or maybe robbery at sea, it isn't that clear, and it's stupid either way)Mar 12 22:12
DaemonFCMcDonalds ended up losing a LOT of money.Mar 12 22:12
immibisDaemonFC: So if a nazi dictator writes a constitution saying "I am the dictator for life. This constitution cannot be altered. Also kill the Jews" and the majority of people vote in favour of that constitution, it's legitimate? What counts as consent of the governed?Mar 12 22:12
DaemonFCThey said "When the US wins a gold medal, you win food." and the categories were always things the Soviets were expected to do well in.Mar 12 22:13
immibis"imperialism is when you refuse to do business with nazis, which you can't do anyway because the banking system is cut off"Mar 12 22:13
DaemonFCSo when the boycott happened, the US won a bunch of gold medals and McDonalds ended up spending several times as much as they thought they would.Mar 12 22:13
techrights-news"Profit motivations come a distant second, as least for now." Clownflare admits it! We're trying to take control of you, we'll screw you and milk you after we've closed our grip/fist around your neck. Pay attention, Mozilla, stop working for Empire. 12 22:13
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bnchs__immibis, man chill down on the mental gymsMar 12 22:13
techrights-newsSonatype still singing its sonata for Microsoft and other companies which actively undermine real security 12 22:16
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techrights-newsInternet is being destroyed see 12 22:17
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | The Internet is Breaking and We Need Contingencies | TechrightsMar 12 22:17
bnchs__lumen is not the internetMar 12 22:18
techrights-newsIt looks like Microsoft Tim nearly left or was marginalised by The Register. I hope the latter. Microsoft boosting there decreased a slight bit this year. They even hired Liam to focus on GNU/Linux news.Mar 12 22:20
bnchs__lol goodMar 12 22:20
techrights-newsShould move to GNU/Linux. Those problems don't exist there. 12 22:21
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schestowitz-TR2bnchs__: yes, crazyMar 12 22:21
schestowitz-TR2they think they helpMar 12 22:22
schestowitz-TR2ex-ICANN CEO wanted to sanction RussiaMar 12 22:22
schestowitz-TR2the current ICANN chief is not that foolishaMar 12 22:22
schestowitz-TR2Biden too was cautioned not to do itMar 12 22:22
bnchs__yesMar 12 22:22
schestowitz-TR2they try to pull kill switzhes nowMar 12 22:22
bnchs__they all wanna gang up against russiaMar 12 22:22
schestowitz-TR2yeah, shut the whole thing downMar 12 22:22
schestowitz-TR2reopen old banksMar 12 22:22
schestowitz-TR2maybe we'll get placesMar 12 22:22
bnchs__they don't give a shit about the innocent civilians thereMar 12 22:22
schestowitz-TR2bnchs__: not just RussiaMar 12 22:22
bnchs__or anti-war activists thereMar 12 22:22
immibiswhy is everyone like "refusing to do business with nazis makes you a nazi"Mar 12 22:22
schestowitz-TR2they set dangerous precedenceMar 12 22:23
schestowitz-TR2of US as world bullyMar 12 22:23
schestowitz-TR2blackmailing any nation using Internet leversMar 12 22:23
bnchs__immibis, a what???Mar 12 22:23
immibisbnchs__: russia = nazisMar 12 22:23
immibis(the government, anyway)Mar 12 22:23
bnchs__yesMar 12 22:23
bnchs__the russian government is badMar 12 22:23
schestowitz-TR2those sanctions are not always misplacedMar 12 22:23
schestowitz-TR2but usually areMar 12 22:23
bnchs__but the civilians there are goodMar 12 22:23
MinceR 12 22:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Oryx (@oryxspioenkop): "๐Ÿฅฐ" | nitterMar 12 22:23
bnchs__and anti-war activists thereMar 12 22:24
schestowitz 12 22:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | When Sanctions Go Toxic: Google, Co-Founded by Moscovite, Agrees With Moscow and Recognises Mariupol (Ukraine) as a Part of Russia | TechrightsMar 12 22:24
bnchs__the problem is that the sanctions end up blocking the civiliansMar 12 22:24
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bnchs__and not helping the situationMar 12 22:24
immibisthese things only work on country-level granularityMar 12 22:24
schestowitz-TR2Russian oligarchs usually don't even live in RussiaMar 12 22:24
immibislike, Putin stole all the foreign currency of Russian citizens from their bank accounts.Mar 12 22:24
immibisThat means any foreign currency that goes to Russia goes to PutinMar 12 22:24
bnchs__there's still people in russiaMar 12 22:25
bnchs__you can't just lock them all up with putinMar 12 22:25
immibisI agree some things make no sense to cut offMar 12 22:25
bnchs__like a pedo in a schoolMar 12 22:25
techrights-newsโ€œstill very, very early in development (about 55% complete), and as such, lack of polish, and game-breaking bugs are to be expected.โ€ 12 22:25
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immibisin fact a lot of things make no sense to cut off.Mar 12 22:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | From TenZโ€™s Twitch to healthcare, Aim Lab wants to do it all - The Washington PostMar 12 22:25
techrights-newsMIT pushing HEY HI nonsense while covering up for pedophiles: 12 22:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Extreme Innovation With AI: Stanley Black & Deckerโ€™s Mark MayburyMar 12 22:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Massachusetts Institute of Tall Tales (MIT) Covers Up Bill Gates Bribery of MIT Through a High-Profile Pedophile, Citing No Evidence Other Than Representatives of Gates Himself | TechrightsMar 12 22:26
techrights-newsIt means not approved by US Empire 12 22:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | What Does the โ€œConnection Not Privateโ€ Warning Really Mean? โ€“ The MarkupMar 12 22:27
immibisthere are plenty of non-US certificate authoritiesMar 12 22:27
immibisdoesn't the chinese government have one? also the russian government?Mar 12 22:27
bnchs__CAs are monopoliesMar 12 22:27
techrights-newsComcast pushing DRM 12 22:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apple TV+ is now available on Comcast Xfinity | EngadgetMar 12 22:27
immibishow can CAs be monopolies if there are like 500 of them?Mar 12 22:27
schestowitz-TR2immibis: noMar 12 22:27
schestowitz-TR2check the settings Mar 12 22:27
schestowitz-TR2on most systems and browsersMar 12 22:28
SomeH4x0rHSTSMar 12 22:28
SomeH4x0rnot letting you bypassMar 12 22:28
schestowitz-TR2you are limited to about 300 CAsMar 12 22:28
SomeH4x0rfucking censorshipMar 12 22:28
schestowitz-TR2that number decreases all the timeMar 12 22:28
SomeH4x0rthen they will preload it for more and more TLDsMar 12 22:28
bnchs__you can't make self-signed certMar 12 22:28
schestowitz-TR2And Microsoft Zemlin is monopolising that more and moreMar 12 22:28
bnchs__because the browser won't work with thatMar 12 22:28
immibisbnchs__: I also can't make an x86 CPUMar 12 22:28
SomeH4x0rwhile speaking of "security"Mar 12 22:28
bnchs__immibis, ok how is that relatedMar 12 22:28
SomeH4x0rthey will establish censorshipMar 12 22:28
immibisnot being able to make something yourself doesn't mean it's a monopolyMar 12 22:28
bnchs__noMar 12 22:29
bnchs__CAs have rulesMar 12 22:29
schestowitz-TR2what happaned in Ukraine vidicatedMar 12 22:29
schestowitz-TR2usMar 12 22:29
bnchs__in fact they're the only way to have HTTPSMar 12 22:29
immibisfirefox has an option to disable HSTSMar 12 22:29
schestowitz-TR2and othersMar 12 22:29
bnchs__except self signed certsMar 12 22:29
bnchs__anything bad, they can revoke your certMar 12 22:29
immibisfirefox also has the ability to load your own CAsMar 12 22:29
schestowitz-TR2because we've long warned about the CAs pyramic scheme becoming more about control and censorshipMar 12 22:29
bnchs__revoke the CA signature of your cert*Mar 12 22:29
schestowitz-TR2it's hardly about real securityMar 12 22:29
schestowitz-TR2TOFCMar 12 22:29
immibisthe ideal CA is just a mirror of DNS. In fact it would be integrated with DNS. Is DNS control and censorship?Mar 12 22:30
immibisyes, DNS is about control and censorshipMar 12 22:30
immibisbecause it's centralizedMar 12 22:30
bnchs__DNS can be hijackeMar 12 22:30
techrights-newsDidn't Mozille peddle this trash until Mozilla's own founder BLASTED the company for it? 12 22:30
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immibisbnchs__: when they fix it, that will increase control and censorship of DNS.Mar 12 22:31
schestowitz-TR2immibis: DNS is also prooblematicMar 12 22:31
schestowitz-TR2some people work to replace or bypass DNSMar 12 22:31
schestowitz-TR2inc. IPFSMar 12 22:31
schestowitz-TR2IPNS exists alreadyMar 12 22:31
SomeH4x0rimmibis: how do I disable HSTS in Firefox actually?Mar 12 22:31
immibisIPNS does not replace DNS. It solves a different problem.Mar 12 22:31
SomeH4x0rI know I can disable preloaded HSTSMar 12 22:31
SomeH4x0rbut how about HSTS in general?Mar 12 22:32
techrights-news"patent licensing compulsory" as in "screw patents", we ignore this monopolistic crap 12 22:32
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Russia mulls making software piracy legal โ€ข The RegisterMar 12 22:32
immibisSomeH4x0r: huh. Actually I just read the headline and that page was about something elseMar 12 22:32
techrights-newsWait, this is GULAG... which PAID 40 million to a manager who was getting blow jobs from subordinates. PAID HIM! And now they pretend to care for women????? 12 22:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Googleโ€™s Jigsaw Unit Open Sources Code for Harassment Manager Tool in Partnership with Twitter, Thomson Reuters Foundation | Business | valdostadailytimes.comMar 12 22:33
DaemonFC<bnchs__> like a pedo in a schoolMar 12 22:33
DaemonFCHot for teacher.Mar 12 22:33
immibisSomeH4x0r: you can always patch it yourself. open sourceMar 12 22:34
techrights-newsRemember, kids!!!! First one's free! That first one becomes half. And then it's not free at all 12 22:35
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immibisi bet there's a fork out there that lets you disable itMar 12 22:35
techrights-newsMicrosoft Windows TCO 12 22:36
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | REvil suspect extradited to US, arraigned โ€ข The RegisterMar 12 22:36
bnchs__immibis, so what you're sayingMar 12 22:36
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bnchs__is that we should accept CAsMar 12 22:36
bnchs__because we already have DNSMar 12 22:36
techrights-newsSecurity for buzzwords ;-) 12 22:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | 5 steps that simplify IoT security for OEMs - Help Net SecurityMar 12 22:37
techrights-newsIf it's GPL, Russia laughs, forks, and stops paying them 12 22:38
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Red Hat, SUSE suspend sales in Russia โ€ข The RegisterMar 12 22:38
techrights-newsThey very recently ported to GNU/Linux 12 22:39
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | SPEC developing benchmarks for ML processing performance โ€ข The RegisterMar 12 22:39
techrights-newsDoes the pope poop in the woods ;-) ? 12 22:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Pandemic surveillance: is tracing tech here to stay?Mar 12 22:40
techrights-newsContact tracing predates COVID-19. In 2020 it was formalised and normalised. They even said that all this data collection was for your safety/protection/security. Disagree? Then you're a filthy dangerous conspiracy buff/crank.Mar 12 22:41
immibisbnchs__: no, I'm saying DNS is a tool for censorship and controlMar 12 22:42
techrights-newsOracle wants to become "too big to fail" by stealing everyone's medical data. Don't let them do it. really awful company with notorious CIA roots. 12 22:42
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Oracle - TechrightsMar 12 22:42
bnchs__yes but how does this possibly related to CAMar 12 22:42
techrights-newsLiteracy? A lot of today's "tech"... e.g. social control media, actively LOWERS literacy and harms comprehension skills 12 22:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | SXSW EDU Panelists Discuss the Role of Technology in Addressing Low LiteracyMar 12 22:43
immibisbnchs__: there's bigger things to worry about, like DNSMar 12 22:44
techrights-newsCompanies testing their OWN products, find "diagnostic accuracy of 98.5 per cent". one year ago companies told us their vaccines were 96% effective, after just a few months of self-testing and no long-term clinical trialsMar 12 22:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Field-based patient trial for cell-free Zika testing delivers highly accurate resultsMar 12 22:45
bnchs__immibis: yes but that's a problem we can tackle laterMar 12 22:46
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techrights-newsMeanwhile, government propaganda organ BillBC (bribed by Bill Gates to lie to us and sell stuff of his, though we are also forced to pay this organ) admits that in spite of 92% of the adult population in the UK being "vaccinated" COVID-19 is surging againMar 12 22:46
techrights-newsThis is not a gendered issue, no need to interject identity politics into it 12 22:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Female entrepreneurs arenโ€™t paying themselves as they launch their businesses | FortuneMar 12 22:47
XRevan86 "The move follows DuckDuckGo halting its partnership with Russian search engine Yandex on March 1." <- Now that I expected.Mar 12 22:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-DuckDuckGo down-ranks Russian misinformation - ProtocolMar 12 22:48
immibisbnchs__: why are you more upset about CAs (of which there are ~300) than DNS systems (of which there is 1)?Mar 12 22:48
techrights-newsIBM/Red Hat pay this publisher now; so puff piece come out IBM is sucking the life out of Red Hat, FAST 12 22:48
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Many IBM Layoffs (in Marketing), But the Media Is Not Mentioning Those Layoffs At All | TechrightsMar 12 22:48
bnchs__because i don't want to talk to CAs?Mar 12 22:49
bnchs__because i don't wanna pay for their possibly insecure certsMar 12 22:49
schestowitz-TR2the CAs are interconnectedMar 12 22:49
schestowitz-TR2a teare ago LF killed off oneMar 12 22:49
schestowitz-TR2causing a ripple effectMar 12 22:49
schestowitz-TR2and many devices could no longer access much of the webMar 12 22:49
schestowitz-TR2that's why it's like a cartelMar 12 22:49
schestowitz-TR2or pyramic schemeMar 12 22:49
schestowitz-TR2selling you a bunch of bits everyx monthsMar 12 22:50
schestowitz-TR2*x monthsMar 12 22:50
schestowitz-TR2to "join the club"Mar 12 22:50
schestowitz-TR2and gain "approvability"Mar 12 22:50
schestowitz-TR2from a CA MLMMar 12 22:50
schestowitz-TR2chainsMar 12 22:50
schestowitz-TR2chain of (anti\)trustMar 12 22:50
immibisbnchs__: also you know gulagzilla already tackled this problem and invented a free one, right? And if that goes away, we will just stop encrypting website connections.Mar 12 22:50
immibisand the NSA will be happyMar 12 22:51
schestowitz-TR2noMar 12 22:51
schestowitz-TR2straw manMar 12 22:51
schestowitz-TR2you can encryptMar 12 22:51
bnchs__immibis, stop it manMar 12 22:51
schestowitz-TR2but strust on first contactMar 12 22:51
bnchs__we can self-sign certsMar 12 22:51
schestowitz-TR2let them self-signMar 12 22:51
bnchs__it's not CA or nothingMar 12 22:51
bnchs__self-signing existsMar 12 22:51
schestowitz-TR2Gulag CHROME and its clone don't give that optionMar 12 22:51
schestowitz-TR2Mozilla is just a tentacle of Gulag, i.e. PentagonMar 12 22:51
schestowitz-TR2with Baker killing off what's left of Mozilla, a token for peetending the Web is still "open"Mar 12 22:52
schestowitz-TR2as long as you can develop gecko in some basement, which you cannotMar 12 22:52
immibisschestowitz-TR2: yes but web standards are fucked because gulag has a monopoly on the web. gulag controls the web. 100%.Mar 12 22:52
schestowitz-TR2not 100%Mar 12 22:52
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schestowitz-TR2but closeMar 12 22:52
schestowitz-TR2similar to the search marketMar 12 22:52
schestowitz-TR2now it's like a bicycle shopMar 12 22:53
schestowitz-TR2you can get one in pinkMar 12 22:53
schestowitz-TR2or in blueMar 12 22:53
schestowitz-TR2or bigger tiresMar 12 22:53
schestowitz-TR2but it's about identityMar 12 22:53
MinceRthere's also one PKI system and it's brokenMar 12 22:53
schestowitz-TR2they all have two wheels and usually 18 gearsMar 12 22:53
schestowitz-TR2that's the browser marketMar 12 22:53
techrights-newsIs this journalism? Looks like classic webspam to me. :/ I.e. the usual... 12 22:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | The most innovative design companies of 2022Mar 12 22:54
immibisschestowitz-TR2: they control 100% of the standards.Mar 12 22:54
techrights-newsLOL. The tamperer in chief is Mark Zuckerberg, who calls you "dumb fuck" (he did) and said he's "fuck you in the ear" 12 22:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | WhatsApp extension to detect desktop web app tampering โ€ข The RegisterMar 12 22:55
immibisbicycles all have 2 wheels because that seems to be a good way to make bicycles. That's not how gulag standards work.Mar 12 22:55
techrights-newsAirlines are dying, so they try a new approach for improving their image (while they treat passengers like cattle, presuming they're all terrorists and all suitcases are time bombs) 12 22:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | The JetBlue Foundation Announces 2021 Grantees and Opening of Next Foundation Granting Cycle | Aviation ProsMar 12 22:56
schestowitz-TR2immibis: trueMar 12 22:56
schestowitz-TR2not a great metaphorMar 12 22:56
techrights-newsCrankfest. Posers showing off how much energy they wasted to make something that does not even exist. 12 22:57
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | The Bitcoin Conference Differences - Bitcoin Magazine: Bitcoin News, Articles, Charts, and GuidesMar 12 22:57
techrights-news"400Gbps and 800Gbps Ethernet networks respectively." Now Bill Gates can get his CP faster, without hiring another Rick Allen Jones. 12 22:58
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Spirent test kit targets 400 and 800Gbps Ethernet โ€ข The RegisterMar 12 22:58
techrights-news"the ability to block access poses a threat to the decentralization of the ecosystem." 12 23:00
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techrights-newsHow do states target decentralised platforms? Easy. Home raids. See what Russia did to Tor node operators...Mar 12 23:00
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techrights-newsOpenwashing for the most part: "The Eclipse Foundation, which champions open-source software development, has formed a new Software-Defined Vehicle (SDV) working group dedicated to developing a software platform for the automotive industry" 12 23:03
techrights-newsSteven J. Vaughan-Nichols (SJVN) pushing Microsoft talking points. What a truly awful way to end his career. 12 23:05
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TechrightsBot-trHello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77Mar 12 23:06
immibisavoiding giving traffic to a reverse proxy used by the website you want to access is really weirdMar 12 23:06
immibisthat is like boycotting all shops that use a particular brand of front doorMar 12 23:06
immibisbecause you don't like the doorsMar 12 23:06
schestowitz-TR2that's not usMar 12 23:07
immibis... but then using mail order so that a delivery-person has to go into the front door anywayMar 12 23:07
schestowitz-TR2it's decloudflareMar 12 23:07
immibisoh I see. different botMar 12 23:07
immibisin a channel /notice, hexchat displays the channel name more prominently than the sender's nickMar 12 23:07
techrights-newsSelling people GPUs they don't really need isn't a long-term strategy, esp. with production woes and collapsing economies. They want more vendor lock-in now. 12 23:08
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Nvidia repositions as a software and services company โ€ข The RegisterMar 12 23:08
techrights-newsYeah yeah, they're promises us such computers for at least 25 years. Hype and buzz. 12 23:09
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Germany bankrolls effort to build home-grown quantum systems โ€ข The RegisterMar 12 23:09
techrights-newsYeah yeah, they've promised us such computers for at least 25 years. Hype and buzz. 12 23:09
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bnchs__immibis, what if that door has a camera and a wiretapMar 12 23:09
bnchs__that records your interactionMar 12 23:09
MinceRthe door is a poor analogy, as doors don't ban Tor and can't force you to enable javascriptMar 12 23:10
techrights-newsMicrosoft proxies Microsoft profiting from Russia by proxy? See 12 23:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Infosys, Wipro silent on Russian operations โ€ข The RegisterMar 12 23:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | [Meme] Microsoft Complicity | TechrightsMar 12 23:10
techrights-newsScenes from Ukraine. 12 23:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Airbnb, Utah Jazz Team to Provide Refugee Housing | PYMNTS.comMar 12 23:12
techrights-newsPaid-for press release trying to paint Twitter and Gulag as allies of women see 12 23:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Googleโ€™s Jigsaw Unit Open Sources Code for Harassment Manager Tool in Partnership with Twitter, Thomson Reuters Foundation | News | bakersfield.comMar 12 23:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Twitter is Silencing Victims of Sexual Abuse to Protect Violent Men Who Assault Women (Also: GitHub/Microsoft Employees Too Have Complained About the Perpetrator) | TechrightsMar 12 23:12
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immibisMinceR: bnchs__: The store owner installed those features on the doorMar 12 23:14
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bnchs__immibis, yes but i should not go through it anywayMar 12 23:14
bnchs__thats why i send a mexican to do it for meMar 12 23:14
bnchs__(internet archive)Mar 12 23:14
immibisand that is just sillyMar 12 23:15
immibissomeone still has to go through the door. The door vendor still makes moneyMar 12 23:15
bnchs__so?Mar 12 23:15
immibisand now you are wasting the time of some volunteerMar 12 23:15
bnchs__i'm a tor userMar 12 23:15
immibisif you want cloudflare gone, you want it to hurt the owner of the site, not some random volunteerMar 12 23:15
bnchs__and i let internet archive visit the websiteMar 12 23:15
bnchs__so i don't have to enable javascriptMar 12 23:16
immibisI seeMar 12 23:16
MinceRit seems to me that internet archive would store a copy of the site after its first visitMar 12 23:16
MinceRso the number of accesses the site and clownflare sees would be reducedMar 12 23:16
bnchs__ok what if the store gave you a giant popup when you go past the doorMar 12 23:16
bnchs__because you're merely a tor userMar 12 23:17
techrights-newsProprietary software: "Miscreants have launched massive, amplified distributed denial-of-service attacks by exploiting a vulnerability in Mitel collaboration systems." 12 23:18
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immibisbnchs__: the store has chosen not to do business with black people^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hsome arbitrary group, and as long as we live in neoliberal capitalism that is their right (just as it is your right to wear whiteface)Mar 12 23:20
bnchs__yesMar 12 23:20
immibisnormally when it's black people, the government gets involved and says "no, that is stupid, and hurts people, so stop doing it" but tor users are not a protected class.Mar 12 23:20
techrights-newsFake coins collapsing in perceived value? No way!! Quick, hurry up and find new gullible people to inject some real money into this pyramid scheme. Until you run out of gullible people (as always happens with MLM) 12 23:20
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bnchs__the store has chosen not to do business with tor usersMar 12 23:20
immibisActually it's not a good analogy because race is unchangeable. It's more like refusing service to people wearing lycra clothing.Mar 12 23:20
bnchs__so tor users go and loot the storeMar 12 23:20
immibisI'm not sure what lycra is, other than a type of clothing, I've known actual stores that by policy refused service to people wearing itMar 12 23:21
techrights-newsRussia will now collapse. No more gaming! Who is punished here? 12 23:21
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Sony Interactive Entertainment pulls PlayStation from Russia โ€ข The RegisterMar 12 23:21
immibisthis is a person wearing lycra sending a helpful volunteer in to buy the stuff for themMar 12 23:21
bnchs__lol sony pulls playstation from russiaMar 12 23:22
immibisoh lycra = spandexMar 12 23:22
bnchs__"no playstation" "so we have PS3 and shit"Mar 12 23:22
techrights-newsMicrosoft webspam disguised as "news" see 12 23:22
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Proof That Windows โ€œ11โ€ is a Hoax | TechrightsMar 12 23:22
techrights-newsThis used to be an IBM business, but today's IBM is too busy making a killing.... killing Red Hat like it killed CentOS 12 23:23
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perfector"no playstation" for putinMar 12 23:24
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activelowremoving this playstation crap from society isn't a sanction, it's a blessingMar 12 23:25
techrights-newsMore hey hi from Hoffman Jeffrey Epstein associate: 12 23:25
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Linked In to Pedophilia | TechrightsMar 12 23:25
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schestowitz-TR2activelow: exactly!Mar 12 23:26
schestowitz-TR2now they can focus on real thingsMar 12 23:26
perfectorlike conquer ukraineMar 12 23:26
schestowitz-TR2same when they make some other anti-tech stuff "banned" in RussiaMar 12 23:26
schestowitz-TR2what are they thinking?Mar 12 23:26
schestowitz-TR2maybe they should also ban alcohol exports to RussiaMar 12 23:26
schestowitz-TR2to sober up the soldiersMar 12 23:27
perfectoryou need alcohol for moralMar 12 23:27
bnchs__yes i don't know what sony thought what would happen if they took away playstation from russiaMar 12 23:27
perfectorand coldMar 12 23:27
bnchs__i guess no more GTA for putinMar 12 23:27
immibiswhat if Putin gets couped in a few years, Russia rejoins the world economy, but they know how to pirate everything and trigger the collapse of rent-seeking capitalism?Mar 12 23:28
techrights-newsMicrosoft Windows TCO (see between the lines) see 12 23:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Microsoft Whistleblower and Clients Warned, More Than 2 Years Ago in Fact, About the Current Azure Mess (But Microsoft Ignored Those Warnings, Buried Facts) | TechrightsMar 12 23:28
perfectormaybe they make ruskystation11Mar 12 23:28
perfectorlike china made ticktoc to detrone facebookMar 12 23:29
activelowISS space station reported issues recently, due to russia sanctions... USA working on itMar 12 23:30
activelowwe'll see, how that goesMar 12 23:30
techrights-newsMicrosoft Windows TCO 12 23:30
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XRevan86immibis: It may come as a shock, but Russians know how to pirate en masse already.Mar 12 23:30
MinceR 12 23:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - MammothMar 12 23:30
perfectorone more reason for santionsMar 12 23:31
DaemonFCThere's really nothing Russia can do that we can't at this point. They're using a space launch system that hasn't changed since they were the Soviet Union.Mar 12 23:32
techrights-newsA lot of that boils down to nepotism really. It's highly rigged. 12 23:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Some high-income jobs can be done without college education | Putnam News | herald-dispatch.comMar 12 23:32
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techrights-newsInteresting use of the word "inclusion" 12 23:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Congressman announces inclusion of more than $6.5M for local projects in House Appropriations Bill โ€“ thereporteronlineMar 12 23:33
techrights-newsTo corporations, there's no such thing as inclusive policy and diversity. It's PR. It's inclu$ive (of money) and diver$ity (of income sources; they're open to everyone's revenue stream; give us YOUR money, TOO!).Mar 12 23:35
DaemonFCRussia has their own space shuttle. It's rotting in a barn.Mar 12 23:35
DaemonFCIt flew once, unmanned, and then never again.Mar 12 23:35
DaemonFCSomeone went in and sprayed graffiti on what was left of it.Mar 12 23:35
XRevan86That barn is in KazakhstanMar 12 23:36
perfectorat least it didnt exploded mid flightMar 12 23:37