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| matey | better than devuan, would be a distro: | Jun 28 00:01 |
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| matey | 1. that actually does what it set out to do originally | Jun 28 00:02 |
| matey | 2. made by people that know what theyre doing | Jun 28 00:02 |
| matey | one of those would be great. both would be even better. devuan imo is neither | Jun 28 00:02 |
| MinceR | i suspect Damn Vulnerable Linux does fulfill at least the 1st | Jun 28 00:03 |
| matey | not as well as have a bloated piece of shit kernel linux (habposkl) but it counts as truth in advertising | Jun 28 00:05 |
| DaemonFC | <MinceR> at least the people maintaining devuan use devuan | Jun 28 00:07 |
| DaemonFC | Was that in reference to the people developing Fedora-KDE using it under emulation in Windows? :P | Jun 28 00:07 |
| DaemonFC | No wonder that spin has so many problems. | Jun 28 00:07 |
| DaemonFC | You probably don't run into ACPI crap as much when it's a Windows Guest and not running on an actual computer. | Jun 28 00:07 |
| matey | as for my assessment of linux | Jun 28 00:08 |
| matey | the way i see it im either being fair now, or fair soon enough | Jun 28 00:08 |
| MinceR | yes, and also to people pretending to be proponents of "Linux" while using crApple and MICROS~1 products in its place | Jun 28 00:08 |
| matey | i mean zemlin was always a tool | Jun 28 00:09 |
| matey | and i think in hindsight, so was linus | Jun 28 00:09 |
| matey | linus at least could code | Jun 28 00:09 |
| matey | but zemlin has blue hair | Jun 28 00:09 |
| psydruid | https://www.infoq.com/presentations/Null-References-The-Billion-Dollar-Mistake-Tony-Hoare/ | Jun 28 00:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infoq.com | Null References: The Billion Dollar Mistake | Jun 28 00:16 | |
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| DaemonFC | https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/06/27/28-of-msn-news-readers-think-chinas-lease-on-hong-kong-expired-in-1997/ | Jun 28 00:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | 28% of MSN News readers think China’s lease on Hong Kong expired in 1997. – BaronHK's Rants | Jun 28 00:38 | |
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| MinceR | https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/saturday-morning-cartoons-15-pics-1.png | Jun 28 00:49 |
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| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/LateStageCapitalism/comments/vlwuun/accidentally_getting_it/ | Jun 28 01:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Accidentally getting it : LateStageCapitalism | Jun 28 01:08 | |
| DaemonFC | Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3, ^ | Jun 28 01:08 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/LateStageCapitalism/comments/vm26r8/if_you_donate_they_will_think_about_the_thought/ | Jun 28 01:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | If you donate they will think about the thought of fixing it. : LateStageCapitalism | Jun 28 01:11 | |
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| DaemonFC | I may switch to Mullvad. | Jun 28 01:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, June 27, 2022 | Jun 28 02:38 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, June 27, 2022 | Jun 28 02:39 | |
| techrights-news | ✩░▒▓▆▅▃▂▁𝐁𝐔𝐋𝐋𝐄𝐓𝐈𝐍▁▂▃▅▆▓▒░✩ Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! 🅷🆃🆃🅿: http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-06-27.txt | 🅶🅴🅼🅸🅽🅸 gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-06-27.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now) | Jun 28 02:42 |
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| techrights-news | "There are large numbers of unacceptable "solution"s in the ecological space. Suppose the only solution to an eco-catastrophe were a mass die-off, with the remnant of humanity consisting of peasants and lords who hunt peasant for sport a la Game of Thrones." gemini://the-brannons.com/whysave/ | Jun 28 03:41 |
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| techrights-ipfs-bot | ☞ Gemini requests since start of month: 271798 total • Total number of pages in capsule: 41352 • Active: active (running) since Fri 2022-05-27 10:17:06 BST; 1 months 1 days ago | Jun 28 03:43 |
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| techrights-news | My Body, My Data Act Tackles Online Privacy in Wake of Roe v. Wade Decision https://www.itprotoday.com/data-privacy/my-body-my-data-act-tackles-online-privacy-wake-roe-v-wade-decision | Jun 28 03:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itprotoday.com | My Body, My Data Act Tackles Online Privacy in Post-Roe World | ITPro Today: IT News, How-Tos, Trends, Case Studies, Career Tips, More | Jun 28 03:46 | |
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| techrights-news | xkcd: Extended NFPA Hazard Diamond ⚓ https://xkcd.com/2638/ ䷉ Source: xkcd | Jun 28 03:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xkcd: Extended NFPA Hazard Diamond | Jun 28 03:47 | |
| techrights-news | 28% of MSN News readers think China’s lease on Hong Kong expired in 1997. https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/06/27/28-of-msn-news-readers-think-chinas-lease-on-hong-kong-expired-in-1997/ | Jun 28 03:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | 28% of MSN News readers think China’s lease on Hong Kong expired in 1997. – BaronHK's Rants | Jun 28 03:48 | |
| techrights-news | EndeavourOS 22.6 Run Through - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=L9pOvCzqO-E ䷉ Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia | Jun 28 03:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | EndeavourOS 22.6 Run Through - Invidious | Jun 28 03:49 | |
| techrights-news | "he more software you install the more files that start to clutter your home directory but luckily there are ways to fix this, the xdg directories but finding out what apps support these paths can be a little bit annoying so xdg ninja simplifies the process" https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Tp4fkmJ6qXk | Jun 28 03:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Clean Up Your Home Directory Clutter With XDG Ninja - Invidious | Jun 28 03:50 | |
| techrights-news | "Today's video is a bit of a rant, and I know it's going to make me look like a total "boomer" but I have to say it. Modern music sucks! And the reason why it sucks is because computers and technology have completely destroyed the music industry..." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=c0xd0SA2OqQ | Jun 28 03:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Modern Music SUCKS! (Technology Is To Blame) - Invidious | Jun 28 03:51 | |
| techrights-news | "Will buys a cheap mouse, Félim thinks he’s a meteorologist, Graham hacks his TV, and Joe complains about YouTube." https://latenightlinux.com/late-night-linux-episode-183/ | Jun 28 03:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-latenightlinux.com | Late Night Linux – Episode 183 – Late Night Linux | Jun 28 03:52 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ☞ Gemini requests since start of month: 271868 total • Total number of pages in capsule: 41352 • Active: active (running) since Fri 2022-05-27 10:17:06 BST; 1 months 1 days ago | Jun 28 03:57 |
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| techrights-news | Audiocasts/Shows: Late Night Linux, DistroTube, Brodie Robertson, EndeavourOS 22.6 • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166559 | Jun 28 04:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Audiocasts/Shows: Late Night Linux, DistroTube, Brodie Robertson, EndeavourOS 22.6 | Tux Machines | Jun 28 04:03 | |
| techrights-news | Pitivi Video Editor Adds Beat Detection, Object Tracking + More • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166560 | Jun 28 04:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Pitivi Video Editor Adds Beat Detection, Object Tracking + More | Tux Machines | Jun 28 04:03 | |
| techrights-news | #Techrights Bulletin for Monday, June 27, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext | Jun 28 04:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives | Jun 28 04:06 | |
| techrights-news | #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing | Jun 28 04:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index | Jun 28 04:06 | |
| techrights-news | Git 2.37.0 • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166561 | Jun 28 04:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Git 2.37.0 | Tux Machines | Jun 28 04:06 | |
| techrights-news | Russ Allbery: Tie::ShadowHash 2.00 https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/journal/2022-06/001.html | Jun 28 04:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eyrie.org | Eagle's Path: Tie::ShadowHash 2.00 (2022-06-27) | Jun 28 04:07 | |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166562 | Jun 28 04:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 28 04:19 | |
| techrights-news | "The “doctor” at the Lake County Health Department told me to stop eating salt and that she wouldn’t prescribe any medications." https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/06/27/lake-county-il-health-department-doctors-should-probably-be-avoided-in-my-experience/ | Jun 28 04:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Lake County, IL Health Department doctors should probably be avoided, in my experience. – BaronHK's Rants | Jun 28 04:21 | |
| techrights-news | Yes, if one installs malware, bad things will happen https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2022/06/27/python-packages-malicious-code-aws-credentials-video/ | Jun 28 04:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.helpnetsecurity.com | Python packages with malicious code expose secret AWS credentials - Help Net Security | Jun 28 04:25 | |
| techrights-news | Qubes OS 4.1.1-rc1 has been released! • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166563 | Jun 28 04:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Qubes OS 4.1.1-rc1 has been released! | Tux Machines | Jun 28 04:25 | |
| techrights-news | NordVPN becoming more annoying and scammy. - BaronHK’s Rants ⚓ https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/06/27/nordvpn-becoming-more-annoying-and-scammy/ ䷉ Source: baronhk | Jun 28 04:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | NordVPN becoming more annoying and scammy. – BaronHK's Rants | Jun 28 04:27 | |
| techrights-news | "Odyssey team is pleased to announce the release of Odyssey 1.3, a scalable multi-threaded connection pooler for PostgreSQL\GreenplumDB designed for the cloud." https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/odyssey-13-released-2476/ | Jun 28 04:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.postgresql.org | PostgreSQL: Odyssey 1.3 released | Jun 28 04:28 | |
| techrights-news | "IVM Development Group is pleased to announce the release of pg_ivm 1.1." https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/pg_ivm-11-released-2478/ | Jun 28 04:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.postgresql.org | PostgreSQL: pg_ivm 1.1 released | Jun 28 04:28 | |
| techrights-news | PostgreSQL: Timescale's 2022 State of PostgreSQL Survey Is Now Open! ⚓ https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/timescales-2022-state-of-postgresql-survey-is-now-open-2471/ ䷉ Source: postgresql | Jun 28 04:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.postgresql.org | PostgreSQL: Timescale's 2022 State of PostgreSQL Survey Is Now Open! | Jun 28 04:29 | |
| techrights-news | "According to Istio’s support policy, minor releases like 1.12 are supported until six weeks after the N+2 minor release (1.14 in this case). Istio 1.14 was released on June 1st, and support for 1.12 will end on July 12th, 2022." https://istio.io/latest/news/support/announcing-1.12-eol/ | Jun 28 04:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-istio.io | Istio / Support for Istio 1.12 ends on July 12th, 2022 | Jun 28 04:31 | |
| techrights-news | [PATCH 00/12] Adding Gaudi2 ASIC support to habanalabs driver - Oded Gabbay ⚓ https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220627202620.961350-1-ogabbay@kernel.org/ ䷉ Source: kernel | Jun 28 04:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lore.kernel.org | [PATCH 00/12] Adding Gaudi2 ASIC support to habanalabs driver - Oded Gabbay | Jun 28 04:31 | |
| techrights-news | PostgreSQL: Odyssey 1.3, pg_ivm 1.1, and More • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166564 | Jun 28 04:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | PostgreSQL: Odyssey 1.3, pg_ivm 1.1, and More | Tux Machines | Jun 28 04:32 | |
| techrights-news | "Welcome to the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter, Issue 741 for the week of June 19 – 25, 2022." https://ubuntu-news.org/2022/06/27/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-741/ | Jun 28 04:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ubuntu-news.org | Ubuntu Fridge | Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter Issue 741 | Jun 28 04:33 | |
| techrights-news | The software operator design pattern: disadvantages - part 5 | Ubuntu ⚓ https://ubuntu.com//blog/the-software-operator-design-pattern-part-5 ䷉ Source: ubuntu | Jun 28 04:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The software operator design pattern: disadvantages – part 5 | Ubuntu | Jun 28 04:33 | |
| techrights-news | COVID-19 Patients in English Hospitals, June 2022 (More Than Doubled in Under 4 Weeks) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/06/28/english-hospitals-june-2022/ | Jun 28 04:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » COVID-19 Patients in English Hospitals, June 2022 (More Than Doubled in Under 4 Weeks) | Jun 28 04:38 | |
| techrights-news | Photo Manager DigiKam Gets a Big Update http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166544#comment-34158 | Jun 28 04:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | digiKam 7.7.0 is released | Tux Machines | Jun 28 04:43 | |
| techrights-news | terminology | Jun 28 04:45 |
| techrights-news | Words to go: Learn basic Linux terminology • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166565 | Jun 28 04:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Words to go: Learn basic Linux terminology | Tux Machines | Jun 28 04:47 | |
| techrights-news | #HowTo Run Windows Software on Linux With Bottles • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166566 | Jun 28 04:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How to Run Windows Software on Linux With Bottles | Tux Machines | Jun 28 04:47 | |
| techrights-news | Programming leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166567 | Jun 28 04:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 28 04:55 | |
| techrights-news | Today’s 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166568 | Jun 28 04:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 28 04:55 | |
| techrights-news | Links 28/06/2022: Git 2.37.0 and GCC Rust Front-end | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/06/27/git-2-37-0/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/27/git-2-37-0/ | Jun 28 04:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 28/06/2022: Git 2.37.0 and GCC Rust Front-end | Techrights | Jun 28 04:56 | |
| DaemonFC | The landlord just listed my apartment number as "available immediately" on apartments.com | Jun 28 04:58 |
| DaemonFC | This had got to be a mistake. Our lease isn't even up until November. | Jun 28 04:58 |
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| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | oh | Jun 28 04:59 |
| DaemonFC | Maybe he just put down the wrong number? | Jun 28 04:59 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | maybe not | Jun 28 04:59 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | call | Jun 28 04:59 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | brb | Jun 28 04:59 |
| DaemonFC | Now I'm nervous. | Jun 28 05:00 |
| DaemonFC | Why would he do that? I've never been late on the rent. The cops have never been out here. | Jun 28 05:00 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | call | Jun 28 05:03 |
| techrights-news | Making the update more bullet-proof https://bkhome.org/news/202206/making-the-update-more-bullet-proof.html | Jun 28 05:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bkhome.org | Making the update more bullet-proof | Jun 28 05:07 | |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | could be an ambush | Jun 28 05:08 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | not wanting you to get angry and break the place | Jun 28 05:08 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | and then locks you out | Jun 28 05:08 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | to change tenant | Jun 28 05:08 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | with it comes to such listing, you don't do it in a rush | Jun 28 05:08 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | it involves payyment | Jun 28 05:08 |
| techrights-news | How to Challenge Big Tech with Privacy-First Alternatives ⚓ https://puri.sm/posts/how-to-challenge-big-tech-with-privacy-first-alternatives/ ䷉ Source: puri | Jun 28 05:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-puri.sm | How to Challenge Big Tech with Privacy-First Alternatives – Purism | Jun 28 05:09 | |
| techrights-news | SUSE and outsourcing to Bezos (instead of controlling your infra) https://www.suse.com/c/suse-rancher-can-manage-aws-ec2-spot-instance-based-managed-node-groups-with-ec2-auto-scaling/ | Jun 28 05:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SUSE Rancher can manage AWS EC2 Spot Instance based Managed Node Groups with EC2 Auto Scaling | SUSE Communities | Jun 28 05:10 | |
| techrights-news | "In this episode we discuss feedback on Pop!_OS, installing Linux to replace Windows, and a tutorial on the top command." https://goinglinux.com/shownotes.html#glp426 | Jun 28 05:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-goinglinux.com | Going Linux · Shownotes | Jun 28 05:14 | |
| DaemonFC | <Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3> and then locks you out | Jun 28 05:19 |
| DaemonFC | Our lease isn't up until November 1st. | Jun 28 05:19 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | paid in advance? | Jun 28 05:20 |
| DaemonFC | No, of course not. | Jun 28 05:20 |
| DaemonFC | But it's illegal to throw a tenant out who is in the middle of a lease and is not behind on the rent. | Jun 28 05:20 |
| DaemonFC | So how in the hell would it be "available now"? | Jun 28 05:21 |
| DaemonFC | It says "updated 3 days ago" and it's listed on multiple sites, but it's not pictures of our unit. | Jun 28 05:21 |
| DaemonFC | For starters, it's the wrong air conditioner and then it's also a different oven. | Jun 28 05:22 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | either mitake or easrly termination | Jun 28 05:22 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | the lease has some other conditions | Jun 28 05:22 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | like if you do something | Jun 28 05:22 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | 11 years ago my next door neighbour was kicked out | Jun 28 05:22 |
| DaemonFC | He'd have to evict us. | Jun 28 05:22 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | after he had assaulted someone | Jun 28 05:22 |
| DaemonFC | We haven't been notified of anything. | Jun 28 05:22 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | and the police got involved | Jun 28 05:22 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | if you were notified you might wreck the place and seek revenge | Jun 28 05:23 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | or it could all be a mistake | Jun 28 05:23 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | it must be 11:20 therer | Jun 28 05:23 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | maybe too late to phone already | Jun 28 05:23 |
| techrights-news | "digiKam is a photo manager app that lets you organize the images you have. With the latest upgrade, it supports JPEG-XL format, and AVID/AOM." http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166544#comment-34160 | Jun 28 05:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | digiKam 7.7.0 is released | Tux Machines | Jun 28 05:24 | |
| DaemonFC | Yeah. If he's not pissed off at me, I don't want to call or text in the middle of the night. | Jun 28 05:24 |
| DaemonFC | I just don't know why you'd throw out tenants that are paying you and haven't done anything wrong. | Jun 28 05:25 |
| DaemonFC | Especialy with the kinds of people he rents to in here. | Jun 28 05:25 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | the lase is two-edged | Jun 28 05:25 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | so he cannot evict before November unless he can prove you broke your side of the agreeement | Jun 28 05:25 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, but he listed it 3 days ago and said "Available Now". | Jun 28 05:26 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | to ruins your sleep | Jun 28 05:26 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | *ruin | Jun 28 05:26 |
| DaemonFC | It probably will. | Jun 28 05:26 |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166569 | Jun 28 05:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 28 05:26 | |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | save the web page | Jun 28 05:27 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | in ase it goes to court | Jun 28 05:27 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | and he pretends it was a mistake | Jun 28 05:27 |
| DaemonFC | Do you know how hard it was to find this place, Roy? We'll have to throw everything we own in the dumpster and move into that hotel in Gurnee by the week. | Jun 28 05:27 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | put the page in archive.is too | Jun 28 05:27 |
| techrights-news | COVID-19 in England. You have to be foolish to not wear a mask, keep a distance, and attend mass gatherings https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/06/28/english-hospitals-june-2022/ | Jun 28 05:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » COVID-19 Patients in English Hospitals, June 2022 (More Than Doubled in Under 4 Weeks) | Jun 28 05:28 | |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | DaemonFC: no, phone and challenge it | Jun 28 05:28 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | he might even pretend it was a mistake | Jun 28 05:28 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | don't be confrontational | Jun 28 05:29 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | you dont't want a landlord who hates you or whom you took to court and won against | Jun 28 05:30 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | I'm heading off in a bit | Jun 28 05:30 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | it's 5:30am here | Jun 28 05:30 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | rss feeall cleaned up | Jun 28 05:30 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, I'm just going to text him tomorrow morning. | Jun 28 05:32 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | no | Jun 28 05:32 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | not text | Jun 28 05:32 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | phone | Jun 28 05:32 |
| DaemonFC | I have no idea why this wouldn't be a mistake. | Jun 28 05:32 |
| DaemonFC | He always replies to my texts. | Jun 28 05:34 |
| DaemonFC | He didn't seem to be angry last month when I texted him to say I had an outstanding check and I was just making sure he got it. | Jun 28 05:34 |
| DaemonFC | Why would I get angry and tear the place up? | Jun 28 05:35 |
| DaemonFC | That's a crime and I'd be arrested. That would be so much worse than having to move us and the cats into a hotel over by the mall for a while. | Jun 28 05:35 |
| DaemonFC | I need one more problem with the courts like I need a hole in the head. | Jun 28 05:36 |
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| DaemonFC | If nothing else, we could probably fall back to Indiana and rent my grandmother's house off my cousin for a while. | Jun 28 05:37 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.npr.org/2022/06/28/1108107718/instagram-and-facebook-begin-removing-posts-offering-abortion-pills | Jun 28 05:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.npr.org | Instagram and Facebook remove posts offering abortion pills : NPR | Jun 28 05:48 | |
| DaemonFC | https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/06/28/facebook-censors-posts-about-how-to-get-abortion-pills-allows-posts-about-illegally-transferring-guns-and-marijuana/ | Jun 28 05:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Facebook censors posts about how to get abortion pills. Allows posts about illegally transferring guns and marijuana. – BaronHK's Rants | Jun 28 05:51 | |
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| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | DaemonFC: so likely amistake then | Jun 28 06:42 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | based on what you've just told me | Jun 28 06:42 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | many tenants are unable to pay rent these days | Jun 28 06:42 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | if you always pay on time, he is lucky | Jun 28 06:42 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, he's listing available units here at $925. Tat's $50 more than we pay. | Jun 28 06:43 |
| DaemonFC | Last year, he upped the listing price $50, but only increased ours $25. | Jun 28 06:43 |
| techrights-news | THE MAN WHO COULD WORK MIRACLES added to library. gemini://gemini.locrian.zone/library/Wells/Miracles.gmi | Jun 28 06:43 |
| DaemonFC | We've never been late. I always have the check for next month in the mail by the 9th of the previous month. | Jun 28 06:43 |
| techrights-news | Coverage testing with CMake and GCov gemini://gemini.clehaxze.tw/gemlog/2022/06-28-coverage-testing-with-cmake-and-gcov.gmi | Jun 28 06:44 |
| DaemonFC | Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3, Hopefully I can just call him tomorrow and explain that I was looking at apartment websites because my mother has recently retired and has me scouting out the area, noticed he listed our apartment by unit number, and was just calling to see what that was all about. | Jun 28 06:44 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | yeah | Jun 28 06:45 |
| DaemonFC | There's no reason to make it nasty. | Jun 28 06:45 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | start the call with something positive | Jun 28 06:46 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | like, we had this thing fixed | Jun 28 06:46 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | or x has just had a birthday | Jun 28 06:46 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | mom had a birthday, she is looking for a place to semi-retire in | Jun 28 06:47 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | "do you know someone in area y who has a unit?" | Jun 28 06:47 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | "oh, by the way, I was looking to help mom" | Jun 28 06:48 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | "and then I saw this obvious mistake..." | Jun 28 06:48 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, she was asking me to look and see if he had any two bedrooms open and when I looked around, I saw that our unit was listed. | Jun 28 06:48 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | "I think you put the wrong number in" | Jun 28 06:48 |
| DaemonFC | I think you accidentally put our number in on the listing. | Jun 28 06:48 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | when i was 19 I walked (long journey by foot) to pay my landlady | Jun 28 06:49 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | not sure it that was cheque or cash, probably cash | Jun 28 06:50 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | a one-time thing | Jun 28 06:50 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | they kept their old slum to rent out to people like us, students. I think it was their former home. | Jun 28 06:51 |
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| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | https://www.mancity.com/citytv/mens/fernandinho-documentary-trailer-63791935 | Jun 28 07:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mancity.com | Coming soon – Fernandinho: The last game | Jun 28 07:04 | |
| techrights-news | Twenty Years of Flying Meat https://shapeof.com/archives/2022/6/twenty_years_of_flying_meat.html schestowitz.com also turns 20 this years | Jun 28 07:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-shapeof.com | Twenty Years of Flying Meat | Jun 28 07:19 | |
| techrights-news | Custom colour palettes for {ggplot2} | R-bloggers ⚓ https://www.r-bloggers.com/2022/06/custom-colour-palettes-for-ggplot2/ ䷉ Source: r-ers | Jun 28 07:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Custom colour palettes for {ggplot2} | R-bloggers | Jun 28 07:20 | |
| techrights-news | 0025: preimp, focus + mach, emergent ventures, clockwork labs, success, hytradboi ideas, zig debugging tips, dev-setup.sh, clojurescript blues, analogies for end-user programming, half-arsed workflows, javascript vs serialization, links ⚓ https://www.scattered-thoughts.net/log/0025/ ䷉ Source: scattered-thoughts | Jun 28 07:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.scattered-thoughts.net | 0025: preimp, focus + mach, emergent ventures, clockwork labs, success, hytradboi ideas, zig debugging tips, dev-setup.sh, clojurescript blues, analogies for end-user programming, half-arsed workflows, javascript vs serialization, links | Jun 28 07:21 | |
| techrights-news | "partially visually hidden link names may work great for people who use screen readers, but this approach can be problematic for people who rely on voice control software." https://www.smashingmagazine.com/2022/06/voice-control-usability-considerations-partially-visually-hidden-link-names/ | Jun 28 07:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smashingmagazine.com | Voice Control Usability Considerations For Partially Visually Hidden Link Names — Smashing Magazine | Jun 28 07:24 | |
| techrights-news | "Carl Pei's buzzy phone firm, which he says will be a top alternative to Apple's iPhone, will skip North America for its phone release on July 12, the company confirmed to PCMag." https://www.pcmag.com/news/nothing-confirms-phone-1-will-not-be-coming-to-us | Jun 28 07:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Nothing Confirms Phone (1) Will Not Be Coming to US | PCMag | Jun 28 07:24 | |
| techrights-news | "The risk of doing nothing is great. The law cannot be indifferent to the impact of its restraint." https://www.channelnewsasia.com/commentary/trump-won-election-us-president-capitol-riot-hearings-2765446 | Jun 28 07:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.channelnewsasia.com | Commentary: The time to decide whether to put Donald Trump on trial is drawing near - CNA | Jun 28 07:25 | |
| techrights-news | Alan Joyce’s $5000 "gift" really a $5,000 grift. What’s the scam Qantas? - Michael West ⚓ https://michaelwest.com.au/alan-joyces-5000-gift-really-a-5000-grift-whats-the-scam-qantas/ ䷉ Source: michaelwest | Jun 28 07:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-michaelwest.com.au | Alan Joyce's $5000 "gift" really a $5,000 grift. What's the scam Qantas? - Michael West | Jun 28 07:27 | |
| techrights-news | [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D275.jpg | Jun 28 07:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Monday, June 27, 2022 | Techrights | Jun 28 08:22 | |
| techrights-news | Are COVID-19-Linked Arrhythmias Caused by Viral Damage to the Heart’s Pacemaker Cells? | Newsroom | Weill Cornell Medicine ⚓ https://news.weill.cornell.edu/news/2022/04/are-covid-19-linked-arrhythmias-caused-by-viral-damage-to-the-heart’s-pacemaker-cells ䷉ Source: news | Jun 28 08:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.weill.cornell.edu | Are COVID-19-Linked Arrhythmias Caused by Viral Damage to the Heart’s Pacemaker Cells? | Newsroom | Weill Cornell Medicine | Jun 28 08:27 | |
| techrights-news | "they become more about fundraising and less about doing anything (except just enough to justify taking money)" http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-270622.html#tJun%2027%2019:56:47 | Jun 28 08:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, June 27, 2022 | Jun 28 08:43 | |
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| techrights-news | Compulab ☛ https://linuxgizmos.com/compulabs-new-iot-gateway-is-based-on-nxps-i-mx-8m-processor-and-runs-on-linux-ms-azure-iot-and-node-red/ | Source: Linux Gizmos | Jun 28 09:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/compulabs-new-iot-gateway-is-based-on-nxps-i-mx-8m-processor-and-runs-on-linux-ms-azure-iot-and-node-red/ ) | Jun 28 09:12 | |
| techrights-news | "The STEPFPGA MXO2Core is a compact platform based on the Lattice MX02-4000 FPGA." ☛ https://linuxgizmos.com/stepfpga-supports-verilog-on-cloud-based-ide-and-lattices-diamond-ide/ | Source: Linux Gizmos | Jun 28 09:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/stepfpga-supports-verilog-on-cloud-based-ide-and-lattices-diamond-ide/ ) | Jun 28 09:13 | |
| techrights-news | "Ubuntu 22.04 LTS introduces optimised kernel versions for different platforms" ☛ https://ubuntu.com//blog/whats-new-in-security-for-ubuntu-22-04-lts | Source: Ubuntu | Jun 28 09:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-What’s new in Security for Ubuntu 22.04 LTS? | Ubuntu | Jun 28 09:13 | |
| techrights-news | "we will cover how to set static ip address on Ubuntu 22.04" ☛ https://www.linuxbuzz.com/set-static-ip-address-on-ubuntu/ | Source: Linux Buzz | Jun 28 09:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxbuzz.com | How to Set Static IP Address on Ubuntu 22.04 | Jun 28 09:15 | |
| techrights-news | "Vanilla Forums is a modern, lightweight, and open-source multi-lingual forum software written in PHP." ☛ https://www.rosehosting.com/blog/how-to-install-vanilla-forums-with-openlitespeed-on-ubuntu-20-04/ | Source: RoseHosting | Jun 28 09:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How to Install Vanilla Forums with OpenLiteSpeed on Ubuntu 20.04 - RoseHosting | Jun 28 09:15 | |
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| techrights-news | Purism sounds like Microsoft LOBBYISTS NOW!! "Big Tech companies like Apple, Google, and Facebook" ☛ https://puri.sm/posts/how-to-challenge-big-tech-with-privacy-first-alternatives/ | Jun 28 09:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-puri.sm | How to Challenge Big Tech with Privacy-First Alternatives – Purism | Jun 28 09:18 | |
| techrights-news | "In this guide, we will see what is Docker, how to install Docker Engine in Ubuntu Linux." ☛ https://ostechnix.com/install-docker-ubuntu/ | Source: OSTechNix | Jun 28 09:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Install Docker And Docker Compose In Ubuntu - OSTechNix | Jun 28 09:19 | |
| techrights-news | "Ghost is a very popular open-source content management system. Started as an alternative to WordPress" ☛ https://linuxhandbook.com/self-host-ghost-traefik/ | Source: Linux Handbook | Jun 28 09:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxhandbook.com | Self-host a Ghost Blog With Traefik | Jun 28 09:23 | |
| techrights-news | "In this post, we will demonstrate how to install HAProxy on Ubuntu 22.04 (Jammy Jellyfish) step by step." ☛ https://www.linuxtechi.com/install-configure-haproxy-on-ubuntu/ | Source: LinuxTechi | Jun 28 09:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxtechi.com | How to Install and Configure HAProxy on Ubuntu 22.04 | Jun 28 09:23 | |
| techrights-news | "An operating system that is highly focused on security is the best friend to any hacker." ☛ https://linuxtechlab.com/top-12-linux-hacking-and-pen-testing-in-2022/ | Source: LinuxTechLab | Jun 28 09:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-TOP 12 LINUX HACKING and PEN TESTING IN 2022 - LinuxTechLab | Jun 28 09:25 | |
| techrights-news | "Though lockdown was temporary, the trends that arose because of COVID-19 seem permanent." ☛ https://linuxtechlab.com/zero-trust-security-is-here-to-stay-for-decades/ | Source: LinuxTechLab | Jun 28 09:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 520 @ https://linuxtechlab.com/zero-trust-security-is-here-to-stay-for-decades/ ) | Jun 28 09:25 | |
| techrights-news | PHP Hardening ☛ https://www.tecmint.com/linux-php-hardening-security-tips/ | Source: TecMint | Jun 28 09:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tecmint.com | Top PHP Hardening Security Tips for Linux Servers | Jun 28 09:26 | |
| techrights-news | "However, Netxcloud is not only good for photos and multimedia files" ☛ https://www.tecmint.com/work-with-documents-in-nextcloud/ | Source: TecMint | Jun 28 09:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tecmint.com | A Detailed Guide on How to Work with Documents in Nextcloud | Jun 28 09:26 | |
| techrights-news | "Reassembly is a highly rated game that mixes spaceship building, exploration and intense combat." ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/spaceship-building-game-reassembly-goes-64bit-gets-linux-and-steam-deck-upgrades/ | Source: GamingOnLinux | Jun 28 09:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Spaceship building game Reassembly goes 64bit, gets Linux and Steam Deck upgrades | GamingOnLinux | Jun 28 09:27 | |
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| techrights-news | Native GNU/Linux support ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/tactical-2d-rpg-arcadian-atlas-has-a-new-trailer-releasing-in-2023/ | Source: GamingOnLinux | Jun 28 09:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Tactical 2D RPG 'Arcadian Atlas' has a new trailer, releasing in 2023 | GamingOnLinux | Jun 28 09:29 | |
| techrights-news | "It's going to release with Native GNU/Linux support on July 21st" ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/low-poly-3d-rail-shooter-ex-zodiac-hits-early-access-on-july-21st/ | Source: GamingOnLinux | Jun 28 09:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Low-poly 3D rail shooter Ex-Zodiac hits Early Access on July 21st | GamingOnLinux | Jun 28 09:29 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-27.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-28.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Jun 28 09:30 |
| techrights-news | "Recently, one modder decided to stick a bigger 2242 M.2 SSD into their Steam Deck" ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/valve-designer-warns-people-not-to-put-2242-m2-drives-in-their-steam-deck/ | Source: GamingOnLinux | Jun 28 09:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Valve designer warns people not to put 2242 M.2 drives in their Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux | Jun 28 09:36 | |
| techrights-news | "As we say goodbye to Q2 and hello to Q3, Valve has confirmed that production of Steam Deck units has increased to the point where they're going to be sending out a lot more." ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/valve-to-ship-more-than-double-the-number-of-steam-decks-each-week/ | Source: GamingOnLinux | Jun 28 09:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Valve to ship 'more than double' the number of Steam Decks each week | GamingOnLinux | Jun 28 09:37 | |
| techrights-news | "A little castle building and AI conquering on the go? Kingdoms and Castles already worked great on GNU/Linux" ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/kingdoms-and-castles-gets-steam-deck-and-gamepad-support-vr-version-coming/ | Source: GamingOnLinux | Jun 28 09:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Kingdoms and Castles gets Steam Deck and gamepad support, VR version coming | GamingOnLinux | Jun 28 09:38 | |
| techrights-news | Linux su vs sudo: what’s the difference? | ⚓ https://opensource.com/article/22/6/linux-su-vs-sudo-sysadmin ䷉ Source: FreeSW | RedHat | IBM | GNU | Linux | Jun 28 09:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux su vs sudo: what's the difference? | Opensource.com | Jun 28 09:42 | |
| techrights-news | "CorsixTH is the absolute best way to play the classic Theme Hospital on any modern system and version 0.66" ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/corsixth-the-modern-game-engine-for-theme-hospital-v066-is-out-now/ | Source: GamingOnLinux | Jun 28 09:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-CorsixTH the modern game engine for Theme Hospital v0.66 is out now | GamingOnLinux | Jun 28 09:47 | |
| techrights-news | "Fancy catching some creatures? How about directly in your terminal window?" ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/pokete-is-a-pokemon-like-game-for-your-terminal/ | Source: GamingOnLinux | Jun 28 09:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Pokete is a Pokemon-like game for your terminal | GamingOnLinux | Jun 28 09:47 | |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166570 | Jun 28 09:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 28 09:49 | |
| *mole (~mole@mbdp3x2m46v36.irc) has joined #techrights | Jun 28 10:13 | |
| mole | something is stinking again... surprisingly, with libtls | Jun 28 10:24 |
| mole | my irc client can pin down certificates to be trusted and when connecting matches a server cert against the pinned one | Jun 28 10:25 |
| mole | this is very simple, and reliable, "trust on first use" similar to gemini protocol | Jun 28 10:25 |
| mole | however, with the recent update of libressl/libtls the certificate matching fails with _all_ irc services i connect to | Jun 28 10:26 |
| mole | scratching my head, what could fail with matching a certificate fingerprint against a pinned certificate, and how is it possible an almost trivial libtls update breaks this? | Jun 28 10:27 |
| mole | and why? | Jun 28 10:27 |
| mole | in parallel, to various other issues reported yesterday (net-dns/bind, ircd-hybrid v7), seems some dark forces unveil their intellectual power "improving", again, SSL/TLS | Jun 28 10:28 |
| matey | jewish developers probably | Jun 28 10:28 |
| *matey has quit (connection closed) | Jun 28 10:28 | |
| mole | how so? | Jun 28 10:28 |
| *matey (~matey@zgwesimerdb6c.irc) has joined #techrights | Jun 28 10:29 | |
| mole | matey: idiots | Jun 28 10:32 |
| mole | i mean, with anything i considered security critical with a particual attack vector against governmental institutions SSL/TLS shouldn't be relied upon anyway | Jun 28 10:33 |
| mole | i'll try something else... bearssl-libtls | Jun 28 10:34 |
| mole | i mean, attacking certificate-pinning, as if this went unnoticed by any average IRC user | Jun 28 10:35 |
| techrights-news | Games: Valve, Kingdoms and Castles, and a Lot More • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166571 | Jun 28 10:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Valve, Kingdoms and Castles, and a Lot More | Tux Machines | Jun 28 10:37 | |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | SSL/TLS can be OK | Jun 28 10:42 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | CAs are a problem | Jun 28 10:42 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | esp. when they become a cartel | Jun 28 10:43 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | or a pyramid of trust chains | Jun 28 10:43 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | where the top of the pyramid is something like 'Linux' (Microsoft et al) Foundation | Jun 28 10:43 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | their expired certs have already ruined a lot of devices | Jun 28 10:43 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | which can no longer access the web | Jun 28 10:43 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | or parts of the internet | Jun 28 10:43 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | because of fake, outdated "trust" | Jun 28 10:44 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | so the CAs monopoly is an attack on the environment, ttoo | Jun 28 10:44 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | so much for the Greenwashing by Zemlin | Jun 28 10:44 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | Zemlin greenwasher in chief https://yewtu.be/watch?v=L6nUewXj0B4 | Jun 28 10:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Jim Zemlin discusses Call for Code and AgStack - Invidious | Jun 28 10:44 | |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | marketing for ICBM | Jun 28 10:44 |
| matey | the CAs monopoly is an attack on the environment, ttoo <- it does seem to contribute to e-waste | Jun 28 10:44 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | "thor away your old TV" | Jun 28 10:45 |
| matey | /me has helped a number of people salvage pcs and laptops with this issue | Jun 28 10:45 |
| matey | tablets are harder | Jun 28 10:45 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | get a TV with a up-to-date list of CAs | Jun 28 10:45 |
| matey | fdroid CAN help with this | Jun 28 10:45 |
| matey | but most people are just going to throw out their devices | Jun 28 10:45 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | "it's broken" | Jun 28 10:45 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | "why?" | Jun 28 10:45 |
| matey | get a TV with a up-to-date list of CAs <- smart tvs SHOULD be e-waste | Jun 28 10:45 |
| matey | better yet never buy one | Jun 28 10:45 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | "because according to LF this CA is now "expired"" | Jun 28 10:46 |
| matey | "it's broken" <- it sank | Jun 28 10:46 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | akin to DRM | Jun 28 10:46 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | with activation servers | Jun 28 10:46 |
| matey | lf = linux fraud? | Jun 28 10:46 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | yes! | Jun 28 10:46 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | http://techrights.org/2022/06/26/lf-disinformation-ploy/ | Jun 28 10:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | This Past Week the Linux Foundation Ran a Massive Misinformation Campaign in Texas and It Paid Media/Publishers to Repeat Lies/Spin | Techrights | Jun 28 10:47 | |
| matey | ah, the old lf disinformation ploy | Jun 28 10:47 |
| matey | if theres anything i do love, its a good lf disinformation ploy | Jun 28 10:47 |
| matey | "you idiot! that was a billion dollar enterprise kernel project!" | Jun 28 10:48 |
| matey | "not anymore" | Jun 28 10:48 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | they cash in | Jun 28 10:49 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | by selling it out | Jun 28 10:49 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | who is they? | Jun 28 10:50 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | not developers | Jun 28 10:50 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | not techs | Jun 28 10:50 |
| matey | microsoft | Jun 28 10:50 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | not honest peol | Jun 28 10:50 |
| matey | osi | Jun 28 10:50 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | eyes, microsoft too | Jun 28 10:50 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | yes | Jun 28 10:50 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | they are monetisingf AWAY the goodwill | Jun 28 10:50 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | iow, the branding work done by millions of volunteers | Jun 28 10:50 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | they sell that away to our enemies | Jun 28 10:50 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | Microsoft is GREEN, says "Linux" | Jun 28 10:50 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | you can find headlines like these | Jun 28 10:51 |
| matey | the halloween documents said they must attack a process, not a product | Jun 28 10:51 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | conflating LF with "Linux" | Jun 28 10:51 |
| matey | they finally managed to attack both | Jun 28 10:51 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | zemlin the luckiest man alive | Jun 28 10:51 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | they needed a dunce | Jun 28 10:51 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | someone they can fire at any time | Jun 28 10:51 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | because he lacks credibility and skills | Jun 28 10:51 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | so he will do anything they tell him | Jun 28 10:52 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | to avoid angering them | Jun 28 10:52 |
| matey | esr + fancy suit + macbook = zemlin | Jun 28 10:52 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | esr can code | Jun 28 10:52 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | zemlin cannot | Jun 28 10:52 |
| matey | yeah, esr at least had technical skills | Jun 28 10:52 |
| matey | granted from a tech standpoint, esr was a bit like | Jun 28 10:53 |
| matey | "i just made this fuel injector out of plans i found online-- dont listen to these amatuers who designed the entire car, theyre crazy" | Jun 28 10:54 |
| matey | and thats his technical contributions in a nutshell | Jun 28 10:54 |
| matey | there are a lot of people like that in open source | Jun 28 10:55 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | I don't know much about his early code | Jun 28 10:55 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | just some projects he hacked on | Jun 28 10:55 |
| matey | i think he worked on ncurses | Jun 28 10:55 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | I could look up a bio or somethiong | Jun 28 10:55 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | but anyway, he's scientifically articulate | Jun 28 10:55 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | not just on issues rerlated to coding, licensing etc. | Jun 28 10:55 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | but also science in general | Jun 28 10:55 |
| matey | he's scientifically articulate <- shit, i wouldnt even go that far | Jun 28 10:55 |
| matey | whats an example of him knowing shit about science? | Jun 28 10:56 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | his political views are awful and cruel | Jun 28 10:56 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | but put that aside... | Jun 28 10:56 |
| matey | but put that aside... <- and hes still a fucking troll | Jun 28 10:56 |
| matey | who helped destroy free software | Jun 28 10:56 |
| matey | to feed his ego | Jun 28 10:56 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | occasionally he wrote OK things abotu science | Jun 28 10:56 |
| matey | occasionally he wrote OK things abotu scienc <- news to me | Jun 28 10:56 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | it's when he crosses over to politics that I skip | Jun 28 10:57 |
| matey | not familiar with esr the "scientist" | Jun 28 10:57 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | hang on.. | Jun 28 10:57 |
| matey | sure | Jun 28 10:57 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | not every bigot is stupide | Jun 28 10:57 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | esr is not stupid | Jun 28 10:57 |
| matey | esr is not stupid <- fsvo stupid | Jun 28 10:57 |
| matey | ive been saying for a while now, that everyone is stupid about SOMETHING | Jun 28 10:58 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=7954 | Jun 28 10:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-esr.ibiblio.org | The UPSide state diagram – Armed and Dangerous | Jun 28 10:58 | |
| matey | rms and hardware is a fine example | Jun 28 10:58 |
| matey | hes a fucking idiot about hardware. fucking. idiot. | Jun 28 10:58 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=7941 | Jun 28 10:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-esr.ibiblio.org | How many Einsteins per Africa? – Armed and Dangerous | Jun 28 10:58 | |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | just random | Jun 28 10:58 |
| matey | he invented free software and hes a genius about physics | Jun 28 10:58 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | not saying they're good examples | Jun 28 10:58 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | do tell the mole Einstein is used as yardstick of wisdom | Jun 28 10:58 |
| matey | i dont know if esr actually knows shit about science | Jun 28 10:59 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▆▃▅▆▆▅▅▆▄▃▅▆▆▆▄▆▆▆▄▆▅▅▅▆▅▅▅▅▅▆▁ avg(k/sec) 43.21 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▁▁▂▂▁▂▁▂▁▂▁▂▁▂▁▁▂▁▁▁▁▂▁▁▁▂▁▂▁▂▂▁▂▁▂▂▁▂▂▁ avg(k/sec) 5.86▕ swarm size (avg): 0 ⟲ | Jun 28 10:59 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | his head might explode | Jun 28 10:59 |
| matey | i mean by fuzi standards he might be a genius | Jun 28 10:59 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | I forgot the german scientist who got close to nuclear bomb but was beaten to it by the germany escappes | Jun 28 10:59 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | like godel and einstein | Jun 28 10:59 |
| mole | Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3: the implementation of SSL/TLS are attacked too, not only the CAs | Jun 28 10:59 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | *escapees | Jun 28 10:59 |
| chunky | it's a travesty | Jun 28 11:00 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | heinsenberg? | Jun 28 11:00 |
| chunky | oops i was scrolled up | Jun 28 11:00 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | made a theory named after him | Jun 28 11:00 |
| mole | i noticed more than once, simple certificate pinning is problematic with various ssl/tls implementations and programs relying on it | Jun 28 11:00 |
| mole | at least gemini protocol got that right | Jun 28 11:00 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | Stochastic stuff | Jun 28 11:01 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | been almost 20 years since I read about it | Jun 28 11:01 |
| matey | http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=7941 <- this is just eugenics masturbating on armchair stastics-based pseudo-intellectual bullshit | Jun 28 11:01 |
| matey | im surprised you think theres science going on there | Jun 28 11:02 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | https://www.mdpi.com/2073-8994/12/9/1533/pdf?version=1600323082 | Jun 28 11:02 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | The Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle | Jun 28 11:02 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Werner_Heisenberg | Jun 28 11:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Werner Heisenberg - Wikipedia | Jun 28 11:02 | |
| matey | what does heisenberg have to do with esr? | Jun 28 11:02 |
| mole | was thinking about the heisenberg uncertainty while ago, it's conceptually flawed slightly | Jun 28 11:03 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | that article esr did on einstein | Jun 28 11:03 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | he had competition | Jun 28 11:03 |
| matey | ,,, | Jun 28 11:03 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | other people working on "the bomb" | Jun 28 11:03 |
| matey | it wasnt about einstein | Jun 28 11:03 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | or rather the theory enabling it | Jun 28 11:03 |
| matey | it was about africans | Jun 28 11:03 |
| mole | the sampling-theorem of Shannon resolves the contradiction surrounding the "uncertainty" | Jun 28 11:03 |
| matey | seriously, you just posted some nazi internet psueudoscience bullshit | Jun 28 11:04 |
| mole | in fact, modern physics and science, and most modern signal processing relies on it: the sampling theorem | Jun 28 11:04 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | matey: didn't read it, just cliicked on it | Jun 28 11:04 |
| mole | which answers the question, what the limitations to measure some signal are | Jun 28 11:04 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | he did write some scientific blog posts | Jun 28 11:04 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | but like I said, his politics is reprehensible most of the time | Jun 28 11:05 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | afaik, it's not even new | Jun 28 11:05 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | afteer 9/11 he became a liability to OSI | Jun 28 11:05 |
| matey | im not implying you sympathise with his nonsense | Jun 28 11:05 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | but even before that he was a gun fanatic and maybe political misfit | Jun 28 11:05 |
| mole | and the historical uncertainty principle of heisenberg leads to unacceptable scientific contradictions, just as the speed-of-light property do and the planck quantum | Jun 28 11:05 |
| matey | if anything, i dont think youre that stupid (you dont strike me as a eugenicist either) | Jun 28 11:05 |
| matey | my point is | Jun 28 11:05 |
| mole | alot of this is distraction from the real science | Jun 28 11:05 |
| matey | esr is posting about PSUEDOSCIENCE | Jun 28 11:06 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | >> (you dont strike me as a eugenicist either) | Jun 28 11:06 |
| matey | where is his scientific stuff? | Jun 28 11:06 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | I'm not IBM employee 100% of the time | Jun 28 11:06 |
| matey | i strongly suspect he knows fuck-all about science | Jun 28 11:06 |
| matey | if he did... he would probably dismiss this utter crap hes posting. | Jun 28 11:06 |
| mole | haven't got at least a reasonable explanation, why real science is distracted from, since it's well established, not secret nor subject to proliferation concerns | Jun 28 11:06 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26875575 | Jun 28 11:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.ycombinator.com | > You are an IBM employee 100% of the time. This is simply illegal. I am surpris... | Hacker News | Jun 28 11:06 | |
| matey | 100% of the time <- when did you work for ibm, or even red hat? | Jun 28 11:06 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | https://linuxreviews.org/IBM_Appears_To_Believe_They_Own_Their_Employees_%22100%25_of_the_time%22 | Jun 28 11:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxreviews.org | IBM Appears To Believe They Own Their Employees "100% of the time" - LinuxReviews | Jun 28 11:06 | |
| mole | some of it, speed-of-light voodoo, black holes etc... it's only confusing the brains of young students | Jun 28 11:06 |
| matey | esr isnt a scientist | Jun 28 11:07 |
| mole | and the alternative, is some real math and physics elsewhere | Jun 28 11:07 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/general-discussion/1251830-ibm-to-kernel-maintainer-you-are-an-ibm-employee-100-of-the-time?p=1251871 | Jun 28 11:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-IBM To Kernel Maintainer: "You Are An IBM Employee 100% Of The Time" - Phoronix Forums | Jun 28 11:07 | |
| matey | hes a nutjob fapping over pseudoscientific bullshit | Jun 28 11:07 |
| matey | ibm-to-kernel-maintainer-you-are-an-ibm-employee-100-of-the-time <- thats funny | Jun 28 11:07 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | "Raymond began his programming career writing proprietary software, between 1980 and 1985.[5] In 1990, noting that the Jargon File had not been maintained since about 1983, he adopted it, but not without criticism; Paul Dourish maintains an archived original version of the Jargon File, because, he says, Raymond's updates "essentially destroyed what held it together."[6] | Jun 28 11:07 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | " | Jun 28 11:07 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_S._Raymond | Jun 28 11:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Eric S. Raymond - Wikipedia | Jun 28 11:07 | |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_S._Raymond#/media/File:Eric_Raymond_2019.jpg | Jun 28 11:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Eric S. Raymond - Wikipedia | Jun 28 11:08 | |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | he looks like Rob Enderle now | Jun 28 11:08 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | with that facial hair | Jun 28 11:08 |
| matey | i think hes a turd | Jun 28 11:09 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | it does not say if he has anyhigher education or complementary education | Jun 28 11:09 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | (comparable) | Jun 28 11:09 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | Zuckerberg: you are FB user 100% of the time | Jun 28 11:10 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | "get the app" | Jun 28 11:10 |
| matey | if you have an android phone, you probably ARE an fb user 100% of the time | Jun 28 11:10 |
| matey | unless youve rooted it | Jun 28 11:10 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | if you install the "app" | Jun 28 11:11 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | iirc, it was around 7 years ago that FB mandated installing "app" | Jun 28 11:11 |
| matey | preinstalled on most android phones | Jun 28 11:11 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | to send private messages | Jun 28 11:11 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | it's a form of blackmail | Jun 28 11:11 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | you cannot talk to "friends" | Jun 28 11:11 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | or see what they tell you | Jun 28 11:11 |
| matey | you have to root the phone to remove fb app | Jun 28 11:11 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | UNTIL you put the "app" on your "phone" | Jun 28 11:11 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | of course the app [sic] will do a lot more than the above functionality | Jun 28 11:12 |
| matey | next itll be, you have to root the phone but it will leave some functionality a la internet edgesplorer | Jun 28 11:12 |
| matey | then youll have to find the files and delete | Jun 28 11:12 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | microphone, address book harvesting, cameras, location tracking etc. | Jun 28 11:12 |
| matey | all that shit | Jun 28 11:12 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | today's "apps" complain if there is no network connection | Jun 28 11:12 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | even if you are on wifdi | Jun 28 11:12 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | as they cannot determine our physical loication | Jun 28 11:12 |
| matey | crapps | Jun 28 11:12 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | as if they read or send a message you must say where you are (toilet, kitchen, yard) | Jun 28 11:13 |
| matey | i got so close to switching back to a landline recently | Jun 28 11:13 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | they have sub-meter precision alreayd | Jun 28 11:13 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | plus altitude to some extent | Jun 28 11:13 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | depending on number of antennas around you have the number next to the GEEEEEEE | Jun 28 11:13 |
| matey | plus altitude to some extent <- i believe this is all wifi | Jun 28 11:13 |
| matey | i dont think gsm can do that | Jun 28 11:14 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | wifi does it too | Jun 28 11:14 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | you live in a seas of wifi connections | Jun 28 11:14 |
| matey | no i dont think gsm can physically do that | Jun 28 11:14 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | and "hotspots" | Jun 28 11:14 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | unless you are in some iosolated mension | Jun 28 11:14 |
| matey | wifi does it ONLY (i believe) | Jun 28 11:14 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | or countryside | Jun 28 11:14 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | and they see [sic] your devices all the time | Jun 28 11:14 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | they are a sea of eacons | Jun 28 11:14 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | *beacons | Jun 28 11:14 |
| matey | if they had vertical arrays of gsm stations then maybe gsm could do that | Jun 28 11:15 |
| matey | i believe gsm tracking is 2d only | Jun 28 11:15 |
| matey | let me know you when you find evidence to the contrary | Jun 28 11:15 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | you cannot hide from all the other routers and become visible only to yours | Jun 28 11:15 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | they can detect the radio freqeuencies yyou send | Jun 28 11:15 |
| matey | you cannot hide from all the other routers <- but that is only relevant to wifi | Jun 28 11:15 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | and afaik it's in the secretive wifi spacs | Jun 28 11:15 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | wifi3, 4... | Jun 28 11:15 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | you contantly send signal | Jun 28 11:15 |
| matey | afaik it's in the secretive wifi spacs <- i consider it an application | Jun 28 11:15 |
| matey | maybe its in the specs, i dont know | Jun 28 11:16 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | but if you used a stationary machine it always comes from the same place | Jun 28 11:16 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | only signa intensity may vary | Jun 28 11:16 |
| matey | you dont have to move for geolocation to work | Jun 28 11:16 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | right | Jun 28 11:16 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | but if the location does not change | Jun 28 11:16 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | then the data you get form it is worthless | Jun 28 11:16 |
| matey | triangulation works just as well on stationary signal points | Jun 28 11:16 |
| matey | if the location does not change then the data you get form it is worthless <- um | Jun 28 11:17 |
| matey | it probably shows where you live or work | Jun 28 11:17 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | yes, of course | Jun 28 11:17 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | but they get it once and that's it | Jun 28 11:17 |
| matey | i dont know if thats "worthless" | Jun 28 11:17 |
| matey | its a hell of a fingerprint | Jun 28 11:17 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | they know where your MAC address or whatnot is | Jun 28 11:17 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | there are other ways to find out | Jun 28 11:17 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | like getting your home address ;) | Jun 28 11:17 |
| matey | but they get it once and that's it <- and they know when you move to a new home / job | Jun 28 11:17 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | unless you have a reserved desk in some Internet cafe | Jun 28 11:18 |
| matey | like getting your home address <- right, and if they cant get that... now they still can | Jun 28 11:18 |
| matey | i mean if your browser fingerprint never changed | Jun 28 11:18 |
| matey | thats still useful to them for tracking | Jun 28 11:18 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | exactlyt | Jun 28 11:18 |
| matey | because its a solid identifier across everything you do | Jun 28 11:18 |
| matey | so its not useless | Jun 28 11:18 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | and they can do that based on this sold dat | Jun 28 11:18 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | twitter was sekkubg sycg dara | Jun 28 11:18 |
| matey | its actually incredibly useful for tracking someone | Jun 28 11:18 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | *Selling such data | Jun 28 11:18 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | I should loook while typing | Jun 28 11:19 |
| matey | <Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3> then the data you get form it is worthless <- but its not at all | Jun 28 11:19 |
| matey | <Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3> I should loook while typing <- maybe | Jun 28 11:19 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | psydroid2 posted a link | Jun 28 11:19 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | so I looked at a different screen | Jun 28 11:19 |
| matey | he posts some good stuff | Jun 28 11:19 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | he posted in #boycottnovell-social | Jun 28 11:20 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | that was unrelated to tech | Jun 28 11:20 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | I can get you a good video on tracking by wifi | Jun 28 11:20 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | it's from "braxmann" | Jun 28 11:20 |
| matey | you dont need to | Jun 28 11:20 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | OK | Jun 28 11:20 |
| matey | i already know that tracking by wifi works | Jun 28 11:20 |
| matey | what i was disputing was that gsm can track in 3d | Jun 28 11:20 |
| matey | as i dont believe it can | Jun 28 11:20 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | tablets are like this | Jun 28 11:20 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | even without gsm | Jun 28 11:20 |
| matey | yes, without gsm | Jun 28 11:20 |
| matey | but only without gsm | Jun 28 11:21 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | if you have wifi on and walk through a town with many wifi 'hoitspots' | Jun 28 11:21 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | like BT's | Jun 28 11:21 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | they call it "the clown" | Jun 28 11:21 |
| matey | as gsm cant do that unless they set up vertical arrays of towers | Jun 28 11:21 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | it's a deployment og beacons | Jun 28 11:21 |
| matey | but that would be silly when wifi already provides this cheaply | Jun 28 11:21 |
| matey | and for gsm it would be incredibly expensive | Jun 28 11:21 |
| matey | if we go into the future | Jun 28 11:21 |
| matey | i would not be surprised if gsm isnt abandoned for wifi ENTIRELY | Jun 28 11:21 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | so you need to walk with something like Palm PDA | Jun 28 11:21 |
| matey | but it wont be this decade | Jun 28 11:21 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | with IR and BT turned off | Jun 28 11:21 |
| matey | probably not the next one either | Jun 28 11:21 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | IR maybe OK | Jun 28 11:21 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | it's very short range | Jun 28 11:22 |
| matey | ir would be worthless | Jun 28 11:22 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | but blutwooth (BT) can be picked up | Jun 28 11:22 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | like a nearby phone | Jun 28 11:22 |
| matey | its not just short range, its line of sight | Jun 28 11:22 |
| matey | perfectly useless for most wireless applications | Jun 28 11:22 |
| matey | not for remote controls | Jun 28 11:22 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | but in a shop iff they beam to you or you beam at them they might get device ID | Jun 28 11:23 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | depending on the IR protocol | Jun 28 11:23 |
| matey | good luck with that | Jun 28 11:23 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | tough | Jun 28 11:23 |
| matey | i had one laptop with an ir thing | Jun 28 11:23 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | they scan your iterms with barcode | Jun 28 11:23 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | IR | Jun 28 11:23 |
| matey | i removed the optical diode | Jun 28 11:23 |
| matey | they scan your iterms with barcode <- very short range | Jun 28 11:23 |
| matey | maybe with a laser they could do more | Jun 28 11:23 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | at shops I wear two masks | Jun 28 11:23 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | it hide the jawbone too | Jun 28 11:24 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | all they see is a pair of eyes | Jun 28 11:24 |
| matey | technically they have ir lasers but barcode scanners are usually visible | Jun 28 11:24 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | I'm like a saudi prisoner, also known as woman | Jun 28 11:24 |
| matey | all they see is a pair of eyes <- surveillance cameras will become hi res enough to biometric you based on this eventually | Jun 28 11:24 |
| matey | phones can already do it | Jun 28 11:24 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | another source of threat is some card they now give with chips on them | Jun 28 11:24 |
| matey | i dont know how many years away that is | Jun 28 11:24 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | if they have strong enough scanners to reach the chips | Jun 28 11:25 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | there are actual FBI vans now that xray homes | Jun 28 11:25 |
| matey | i mean it depends if the chip has a transmitter/antenna | Jun 28 11:25 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | without saying they're FBI vans, obviously | Jun 28 11:25 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | and they can give you cancer | Jun 28 11:25 |
| matey | the ones the uk used to have, usa still has now | Jun 28 11:25 |
| matey | no transmitter | Jun 28 11:25 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | but hey, FBI ;) | Jun 28 11:25 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | they also execute people on the spot | Jun 28 11:25 |
| matey | theyre contact-only | Jun 28 11:25 |
| matey | they also execute people on the spot <- news to me | Jun 28 11:25 |
| mole | what scares me, about all this, science and the surveillance crap: the level of arrogance and dilletantism involved | Jun 28 11:26 |
| matey | there are actual FBI vans now that xray homes <- thats a 10 year old story, maybe 15 | Jun 28 11:26 |
| mole | besides the political propganda crap | Jun 28 11:26 |
| matey | not irrelevant | Jun 28 11:26 |
| matey | just not new | Jun 28 11:26 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | <matey> i mean it depends if the chip has a transmitter/antenna | Jun 28 11:26 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | it's a passive chip | Jun 28 11:26 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | they just need to blow it with signal | Jun 28 11:26 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | and it returns somerhing | Jun 28 11:26 |
| matey | thats still a transmitter | Jun 28 11:26 |
| matey | even if its powered by the | Jun 28 11:26 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | but I imagine to do this across a road they need very high amplitude | Jun 28 11:26 |
| matey | do you know "the thing" | Jun 28 11:26 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | maybe it would make you vomit LOL | Jun 28 11:26 |
| matey | it was a passive transmitter used to spy on the white house | Jun 28 11:27 |
| matey | it was powered BY the transmission sent to it | Jun 28 11:27 |
| matey | and it returned audio | Jun 28 11:27 |
| matey | this was decades ago | Jun 28 11:27 |
| matey | maybe even 60s 70s | Jun 28 11:27 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | then you have laser microphones | Jun 28 11:27 |
| matey | soviet era | Jun 28 11:27 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | I hear they're getting more precise these days | Jun 28 11:28 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | but many people now have many microphones in their home | Jun 28 11:28 |
| matey | then you have laser microphones <- but again, line of sight | Jun 28 11:28 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | connected to the Web and Net ALL the time | Jun 28 11:28 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | not landlines | Jun 28 11:28 |
| matey | a passive transmitter could work even where a laser mic would not | Jun 28 11:28 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | the fake "phones" | Jun 28 11:28 |
| matey | a laser mic is probably harder to detect though | Jun 28 11:28 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | embassies studied these already | Jun 28 11:29 |
| matey | obviously | Jun 28 11:29 |
| matey | if its on wikipedia, and can be used to compromise an embassy | Jun 28 11:29 |
| matey | theyve probably studied it | Jun 28 11:29 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | no windows for some rooms | Jun 28 11:29 |
| matey | because laser mics | Jun 28 11:29 |
| matey | among other reasons... | Jun 28 11:30 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/07/who-bugged-ecuadors-london-embassy/313640/ | Jun 28 11:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theatlantic.com | Who Bugged Julian Assange's Hideout? - The Atlantic | Jun 28 11:30 | |
| matey | windows are also see-thru | Jun 28 11:30 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jul/04/ecuador-names-embassy-bug-surveillance | Jun 28 11:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Ecuador says London embassy bug hidden in socket | Ecuador | The Guardian | Jun 28 11:30 | |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/ecuador-claims-hidden-microphone-found-in-its-london-embassy-1.1352724 | Jun 28 11:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ctvnews.ca | Ecuador claims hidden microphone found in its London Embassy | CTV News | Jun 28 11:30 | |
| matey | if you can xray through brick you can read lips :) | Jun 28 11:31 |
| matey | then maybe theyll use lead walls or something | Jun 28 11:31 |
| matey | spy tech is nuts | Jun 28 11:31 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | overrated | Jun 28 11:32 |
| matey | maybe someday theyll find a way to use quantum entanglement to record inside secret buildings | Jun 28 11:32 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | the xray stuff is for things like drug raids, iirc | Jun 28 11:32 |
| matey | overrated <- not sure what you mean | Jun 28 11:32 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | they want to know which room you might be in | Jun 28 11:32 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | or when toy do certain activities | Jun 28 11:32 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | now they have spy meters in many homes | Jun 28 11:32 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | they "save energy" | Jun 28 11:32 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | so they already have a lot more info | Jun 28 11:32 |
| matey | good for profiling | Jun 28 11:32 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | poobook | Jun 28 11:33 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | coming soon from Zuck and Sandbag | Jun 28 11:33 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | Sandbag leaves FB to start her own company | Jun 28 11:33 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | poopbook | Jun 28 11:33 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | upload your photos | Jun 28 11:33 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | get "likes" | Jun 28 11:33 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | go VIRAL | Jun 28 11:33 |
| *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@3e4hceabh5pm2.irc) has joined #techrights | Jun 28 11:34 | |
| DaemonFC | More Billshit. | Jun 28 11:34 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | oh oh | Jun 28 11:34 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | billg or bullshit at home? | Jun 28 11:34 |
| DaemonFC | NPR doing inflation articles about taco trucks and pizza slices. | Jun 28 11:35 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | it's too early to phone landlord | Jun 28 11:35 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | BillPR | Jun 28 11:35 |
| DaemonFC | I just call everything NPR posts "Billshit" at this point. | Jun 28 11:35 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | not NPR | Jun 28 11:35 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | BillPR, formerly known as NPR | Jun 28 11:35 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | unless Bill is the NATION | Jun 28 11:35 |
| *matey has quit (connection closed) | Jun 28 11:35 | |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | BillBeeShit | Jun 28 11:35 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | (BBC) | Jun 28 11:35 |
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| techrights-news | On inflation ☛ https://www.thenation.com/article/economy/inflation-economy-labor-market/ | Source: The Nation | Jun 28 11:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenation.com | We Shouldn’t Destroy What Is Working in Our Economy | The Nation | Jun 28 11:36 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/northwest-indiana-fireworks-dealers-say-business-has-fizzled-this-year | Jun 28 11:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fox32chicago.com | Northwest Indiana fireworks dealers say business has fizzled this year | Jun 28 11:36 | |
| techrights-news | "With the rise of many developing economies, in particular, the Chinese economy" ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/06/27/prospects-world-peace-after-south-korean-president-yoons-acceptance-bidens-new-cold | Source: Common Dreams | Jun 28 11:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | Prospects for World Peace After South Korean President Yoon's Acceptance of Biden's New Cold War | Seung Hee Jeon | Jun 28 11:37 | |
| DaemonFC | Wondering why with hyperinflation people aren't spending their money on things that burn to celebrate a country that's killing us. | Jun 28 11:37 |
| DaemonFC | "The guys call us and say they’re not able to purchase this year because of economic reasons, gas being too high. I have seen a lot of people doing carpooling now because gas has gone up," Mota said. | Jun 28 11:37 |
| DaemonFC | Oh the horrors. | Jun 28 11:37 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | succinctly put | Jun 28 11:37 |
| DaemonFC | Carpooling! | Jun 28 11:37 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | crap-pooing | Jun 28 11:38 |
| DaemonFC | <Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3> succinctly put | Jun 28 11:38 |
| DaemonFC | Back in the 90s when things were cheap and money was abundant and jobs were everywhere, I suppose people would be more in the mood to celebrate. | Jun 28 11:39 |
| techrights-news | Elon Musk aka "pedo guy" and Twitter ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/06/27/tax-extreme-wealth-save-planet-earth | Source: Common Dreams | Jun 28 11:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | Tax Extreme Wealth to Save Planet Earth | Basav Sen | Jun 28 11:39 | |
| DaemonFC | When I started driving, gas was like, a little over $1 a gallon. | Jun 28 11:39 |
| DaemonFC | It wasn't that hard to fill up a 17 gallon tank when the whole tank of gas would be like $18 or $18.50. | Jun 28 11:40 |
| DaemonFC | Today you have to spend like $90-100. | Jun 28 11:40 |
| techrights-news | Charles Reich ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/06/27/corporatization-just-about-everything-including-climate-crisis-and-outer-space "Greening of America." Or greeenwash http://techrights.org/2021/11/09/linux-foundation-greenwash/ | Jun 28 11:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | The Corporatization of Just About Everything—Including the Climate Crisis and Outer Space | Tom Valovic | Jun 28 11:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation Has Become Even Worse Than Climate Science Deniers | Techrights | Jun 28 11:40 | |
| DaemonFC | The government lies to make inflation seem like not a big deal, but now it's so bad and so fast that they can't completely lie about it and tell you it's very low, tame even. | Jun 28 11:40 |
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| DaemonFC | People were standing in line at Walmart to spend a one or two time "stimulus" check on another television set. | Jun 28 11:41 |
| DaemonFC | When it was painfully obvious what would happen a couple of years later. | Jun 28 11:41 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | different things here | Jun 28 11:41 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | 1) benckruptiies | Jun 28 11:41 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | 2) media reporting on (2) | Jun 28 11:42 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | if (2) does not happen, did (1) happen? | Jun 28 11:42 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | The media is a filter | Jun 28 11:42 |
| DaemonFC | Bankruptcy wave in the UK? | Jun 28 11:42 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | BillPR is a lie machine | Jun 28 11:42 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | iI avoid it | Jun 28 11:42 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | DaemonFC: many shops closed | Jun 28 11:42 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, the media just tells you the official narrative so you won't panic. | Jun 28 11:42 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | we see "new ones" (as in dead ones) every month | Jun 28 11:42 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | DaemonFC: unemployment loest ever | Jun 28 11:42 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | back to normal | Jun 28 11:42 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | go to the office | Jun 28 11:43 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | "great resignation" | Jun 28 11:43 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | "talent shortage" | Jun 28 11:43 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | "apply today" | Jun 28 11:43 |
| DaemonFC | Yes, they say "recovery", but from the Metra in the richest cities in the country no less, empty retail and commercial space everywhere. | Jun 28 11:43 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | the NC media near red hat makes it seem like everyone is hiring | Jun 28 11:43 |
| DaemonFC | About the only places that haven't seemed to flop are the grocery store, the pharmacy, and Starbucks. | Jun 28 11:43 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | and gives the impression yoour unemmployed ngihbour is just a lazy bum | Jun 28 11:43 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | without a job of of PERSONAKL choice | Jun 28 11:43 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | remember.... "great resignation" | Jun 28 11:43 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | it's the victims' fault | Jun 28 11:43 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | they jujst resign | Jun 28 11:44 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | in droves | Jun 28 11:44 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | no layoffs happening | Jun 28 11:44 |
| DaemonFC | No job. No need for money, apparently. | Jun 28 11:44 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | tesla has a great resignation problem | Jun 28 11:44 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | and "talent shortager" | Jun 28 11:44 |
| DaemonFC | The rent stopped, gas and food are free. | Jun 28 11:44 |
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| DaemonFC | Things are just too easy, you know. | Jun 28 11:44 |
| mole | strange, i recompiled my irc client, statically linking against libtls-bearssl, and the certificate pinning verification works again :) | Jun 28 11:45 |
| mole | i mean, this is even better | Jun 28 11:46 |
| mole | because, with libtls/bearssl, it remains totally independent from common upstream clusterfuck surrounding openssl/libressl | Jun 28 11:48 |
| mole | and if something related to libressl was breaking certificate fingerprint matching of pinned certificates, i don't know, what to think of this | Jun 28 11:49 |
| mole | no blame intended, it was just a slap into my face this morning, to see the irc client complain, after libtls/libressl was updated | Jun 28 11:50 |
| DaemonFC | Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3, Here's what I posted on Facebook about the Democrats, on a post about the "1/6 Committee". | Jun 28 11:50 |
| DaemonFC | "The Democrats let Roe v. Wade die on their watch while they were up to (1) toothless hearings about January 6th that won't lead to any voters changing their minds or prosecutions, (2) frantically sending fundraising emails about Roe v. Wade while they do nothing to codify it, and (3) passing another federal budget with the Hyde Amendment even though they control the Senate, it's not subject to a filibuster, and they could remove it if they | Jun 28 11:50 |
| DaemonFC | wanted to. | Jun 28 11:50 |
| DaemonFC | This is after RBG clung to her Supreme Court seat until she was dead and let Trump replace her, bringing about the Dobbs decision. | Jun 28 11:50 |
| DaemonFC | The Democrats have been a huge help, haven't they?" | Jun 28 11:50 |
| mole | there wasn't any compilation or linking error reported, none at all... nonetheless, some crucial security feature broke silently | Jun 28 11:50 |
| mole | which was only cought by accident with the irc client i am using | Jun 28 11:50 |
| DaemonFC | Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3, They could remove the Hyde Amendment right now and let states get federal matching Medicaid funds for abortion. | Jun 28 11:51 |
| DaemonFC | Retaliation for the Dobbs decision. | Jun 28 11:51 |
| DaemonFC | But they don't even talk about Hyde. | Jun 28 11:51 |
| DaemonFC | Removing the Hyde Amendment wouldn't force any state to cover abortion, it would merely let them get federal matching funds if they do cover it. | Jun 28 11:52 |
| DaemonFC | So if Texas sued, they'd have an almost impossible standard since nobody is forcing them to cover it. | Jun 28 11:52 |
| DaemonFC | It would be like their suit claiming they are theoretically harmed by expanded Medicaid because they chose not to expand, but people there pay federal taxes. | Jun 28 11:53 |
| DaemonFC | It got thrown out of court for lack of standing. | Jun 28 11:53 |
| DaemonFC | Could the Republicans bring back Hyde someday. Technically, yes, but not until there's a new budget bill with it that the president would sign, and it would have to pass both chambers of Congress. | Jun 28 11:54 |
| DaemonFC | So not for at least three years. | Jun 28 11:54 |
| DaemonFC | That would be another political mess for at least a few Republicans. | Jun 28 11:55 |
| DaemonFC | Remember that a few of them claim that they were blindsided by Trump's Supreme Court picks, who they say assured them Roe was settled. | Jun 28 11:55 |
| XRevan86 | https://theins.press/en/news/252657 | Jun 28 11:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theins.press | Russian Defense Ministry confirms strike on Kremenchuk, says ammo explosion caused shopping mall fire | Jun 28 11:56 | |
| XRevan86 | https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/06/28/at-least-18-victims-following-mall-missile-strike-in-kremenchuk-news "At least 18 victims following mall missile strike in Kremenchuk" | Jun 28 11:56 |
| DaemonFC | If they bring back Hyde, they have to face their voters, and if they were confident that their voters absolutely didn't want Dobbs, then why are they trying to say they were "tricked" into confirming the judges that did it? | Jun 28 11:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-novayagazeta.eu | Новая газета. Европа | Jun 28 11:56 | |
| DaemonFC | So it's not at all a sure thing that Hyde would come back unless the Republicans can get 53 seats. | Jun 28 11:56 |
| *Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 back (checked blood pressure) | Jun 28 11:57 | |
| DaemonFC | The smart thing to do politically right now is repeal it and force "moderate" Republicans who have an election to win to face angry voters in their states and districts. | Jun 28 11:57 |
| DaemonFC | The Democrats are pretty stupid though. | Jun 28 11:58 |
| DaemonFC | They're probably still in there figuring out more ways to lose because people will say "What difference does it make?". | Jun 28 11:58 |
| techrights-news | "Oxfam International is demanding a global windfall profits tax on the massive financial gains made by large corporations over the last two years of the Covid-19 pandemic" ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/06/27/global-windfall-profit-tax-90-needed-address-catastrophic-food-climate-crises-oxfam | Source: Common Dreams | Jun 28 11:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Global Windfall Profit Tax of 90% Needed to Address 'Catastrophic' Food, Climate Crises: Oxfam | Jun 28 11:59 | |
| DaemonFC | The way the House map worked out and the way that the Senate elections this year fall, there's not too many places where voters angry about Hyde repeal could take revenge. | Jun 28 11:59 |
| DaemonFC | It would be more of a liability for the Republicans. | Jun 28 11:59 |
| DaemonFC | New Mexico Democrats probably made a mistake in redistricting and trying to take all three House seats. | Jun 28 12:00 |
| DaemonFC | They've weakened their hold on two to try to take the third, and now they might lose them all. | Jun 28 12:00 |
| DaemonFC | The Democrats have tried to aggressively redistrict this cycle to make up for the Republicans controlling more states, and it puts seats at risk that they have now. | Jun 28 12:01 |
| DaemonFC | I think Illinois might have been the only aggressive redistricting that's more likely than not to work out well for them. | Jun 28 12:02 |
| DaemonFC | They overplayed their hand in New York, a court threw out the maps, and they had "competitive districts" forced on them instead by a college professor who was tasked with redistricting by the court. | Jun 28 12:02 |
| DaemonFC | That was just badly badly botched because it was such an overreach. | Jun 28 12:02 |
| DaemonFC | Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3, That extended stay hotel over by the mall gets mixed reviews. | Jun 28 12:03 |
| DaemonFC | It's only $1,000 a month, which is cheap considering what apartments go for, where the landlord additionally expects you to pay for utilities. | Jun 28 12:04 |
| DaemonFC | So we _could_ go back to living in a hotel and paying by the month again for a while if we had to. | Jun 28 12:04 |
| DaemonFC | That has ups and downs obviously. | Jun 28 12:04 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | the price varies | Jun 28 12:04 |
| DaemonFC | There's no landlord but the terms of your stay can change immediately on you with no time to prepare. | Jun 28 12:04 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | I forgot how much you got in that hote//motal | Jun 28 12:04 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | with the over issues | Jun 28 12:05 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | *motel | Jun 28 12:05 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | and then they jacked up the prices | Jun 28 12:05 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, I think that one was pretty ghetto compared to this one. | Jun 28 12:05 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | how far from mandy's work? | Jun 28 12:05 |
| DaemonFC | This one looks nice on the outside and there's no indication of crackheads playing shove the Walmart cart into the retention pond. | Jun 28 12:05 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | you can lower fuel spendings | Jun 28 12:05 |
| DaemonFC | Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3, It would be about the same distance, just from Gurnee instead of over by the lake in Waukegan. | Jun 28 12:06 |
| DaemonFC | He could transfer to the other Walmart. | Jun 28 12:06 |
| DaemonFC | Then it would be closer. | Jun 28 12:06 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | you can save $200 on fuel a month maybe | Jun 28 12:06 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | the price may continues to skyrocket | Jun 28 12:06 |
| DaemonFC | I'm just glad I saw this while I can fight our current landlord to stay here until at least our lease ends in 126 days. | Jun 28 12:06 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | the war is not ending | Jun 28 12:06 |
| DaemonFC | And not wait until I get some letter in the mail saying "you have 30 days to beat it". | Jun 28 12:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> "military alliance" ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/06/27/nato-boost-ranks-high-readiness-forces-650-over-300000 | Source: Common Dreams | Jun 28 12:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | NATO to Boost Ranks of High-Readiness Forces by 650% to Over 300,000 | Jun 28 12:07 | |
| DaemonFC | I might lose all the furniture, but that's why I bought cheap furniture. | Jun 28 12:07 |
| techrights-news | 9 Top Free and Open Source Elixir Web Frameworks • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166572 | Jun 28 12:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 9 Top Free and Open Source Elixir Web Frameworks | Tux Machines | Jun 28 12:07 | |
| DaemonFC | I got more expensive stuff when I lived with John and lost all of it. | Jun 28 12:07 |
| techrights-news | IPFire 2.27 - Core Update 169 is available for testing • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166573 | Jun 28 12:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IPFire 2.27 - Core Update 169 is available for testing | Tux Machines | Jun 28 12:08 | |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | DaemonFC: mayebv 60 days | Jun 28 12:08 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, There was a landlord here in Waukegan that was doing 2 year leases. | Jun 28 12:08 |
| DaemonFC | I might see if I can look them up. | Jun 28 12:09 |
| DaemonFC | The stress of having a lease come up every year is not pleasant. | Jun 28 12:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | ] <schestowitz-TR> life in Murica: PTSD without the war, mental breakdown without the anti-depressants | Jun 28 12:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | [09:03] <schestowitz-TR> they will get him contemplating again... unless it boils down to a major error | Jun 28 12:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | [09:03] <schestowitz-TR> he needs to wait 8 hours to phone the landlord | Jun 28 12:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | [09:03] <schestowitz-TR> for IRC you need to check gemini or the tail for circa 4am gmt | Jun 28 12:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | [09:04] <Techrights-sec2> ok checking | Jun 28 12:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | [09:04] <Techrights-sec2> fighting an eviction can drag the process out by up to 60 days iirc about the US | Jun 28 12:09 |
| DaemonFC | <Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3> DaemonFC: mayebv 60 days | Jun 28 12:09 |
| DaemonFC | I'm still leaning towards "This is a mistake.". | Jun 28 12:09 |
| DaemonFC | He's given me no indication that he's not happy with us. He was out here last week and the only thing he said was "Thank you sir!" for holding the door, then again to mow the lawn and he waved at me while I was backing the car out. | Jun 28 12:10 |
| techrights-news | "We’ve all heard of the smoke test, and we know that it’s the lowest possible bar for performance of an electronic device." ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/06/27/homebrew-optical-sensor-helps-your-diesel-pass-the-smoke-test/ | Source: Hackaday | Jun 28 12:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Homebrew Optical Sensor Helps Your Diesel Pass The Smoke Test | Hackaday | Jun 28 12:10 | |
| DaemonFC | I mean, usually if there's a problem, I haven't met too many landlords that just keep it to themselves. | Jun 28 12:10 |
| DaemonFC | Neither he nor his wife have filed any evictions in three years. | Jun 28 12:11 |
| DaemonFC | I'm going to pull up the property records and see if they transferred this place to an LLC or anything. | Jun 28 12:11 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | I was about to day | Jun 28 12:12 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | that maybe he sells it | Jun 28 12:12 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | sold it | Jun 28 12:12 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | or ownership changed in some way | Jun 28 12:12 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | because I saw people whose landlord puut the home on slae | Jun 28 12:12 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | even my next door neighboiut | Jun 28 12:12 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | who owned a brewery or something | Jun 28 12:13 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | weak business during pandemic | Jun 28 12:13 |
| DaemonFC | The tax department says they own it. | Jun 28 12:16 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | maybe they are possessed by daemons now | Jun 28 12:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 28 12:18 | |
| DaemonFC | They owe $22,032 in property taxes on the building for the year. | Jun 28 12:18 |
| DaemonFC | 25 apartments. | Jun 28 12:18 |
| DaemonFC | $881.28 per apartment per year, or $73.44 a month. | Jun 28 12:19 |
| techrights-news | Easy OS 4.1.....A Quick First Look - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=wIZyD6wA8QM ䷉ Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia | Jun 28 12:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Easy OS 4.1.....A Quick First Look - Invidious | Jun 28 12:19 | |
| XRevan86 | > As a result of the high-precision strike, Western-made weapons and ammunition stored in the area | Jun 28 12:21 |
| XRevan86 | https://images.newsru.co.il/l/207/54/2075400.jpg Efrem Lukatsky from AP took this picture yesterday. | Jun 28 12:21 |
| XRevan86 | https://images.newsru.co.il/l/207/53/2075399.jpg and this one | Jun 28 12:21 |
| DaemonFC | No, that's one installment. | Jun 28 12:21 |
| DaemonFC | Wow. | Jun 28 12:21 |
| XRevan86 | The former one is the nearby factory, the latter is the mall. | Jun 28 12:22 |
| DaemonFC | They owe $44,000 in property taxes on this place every year and it only covers two-thirds of the total complex? | Jun 28 12:22 |
| XRevan86 | So the factory is… untouched. | Jun 28 12:22 |
| DaemonFC | Our current rent is $875, so that leaves them with like $725 after the property taxes. | Jun 28 12:23 |
| DaemonFC | I wonder what our water and sewage bill come out to. | Jun 28 12:23 |
| DaemonFC | $100 maybe? | Jun 28 12:23 |
| DaemonFC | Let's say he has $600 left each month after water/sewage, our share of the trash removal, and property taxes. | Jun 28 12:23 |
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| DaemonFC | That would still be $180,000 out of 25 apartments for the year, assuming he can keep them all rented out. | Jun 28 12:24 |
| DaemonFC | Even if you generously assume it costs him $20,000 in maintainence, insurance, and natural gas (for the water heater and to keep the hallways warm enough not to freeze in the winter), that's $160,000. | Jun 28 12:25 |
| DaemonFC | The guy and his wife are probably loaded, and they'd be loaded even if they didn't come out raise rent on all of their tenants. | Jun 28 12:26 |
| DaemonFC | But that's true of pretty much all landlords. | Jun 28 12:26 |
| DaemonFC | Take mom's for example "Dear tenant, due to inflation your rent is going up $225 a month starting next month. By the way, do you like the house I just bought on the lake? It's even bigger than the last one.". | Jun 28 12:27 |
| DaemonFC | Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3, They floated the idea of rent control boards a few years ago because of the overheated rental market in Chicago. | Jun 28 12:27 |
| DaemonFC | THe landlords are, unsurprisingly, fighting it off. | Jun 28 12:28 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | XRevan86: many shots | Jun 28 12:29 |
| XRevan86 | Yes, from two different locations. | Jun 28 12:29 |
| DaemonFC | Their position is if the tenants have to pay $20 a year to feed the rent control board it will be too hard on the tenants. And that's their job. The landlord can come out and raise the rent by $600 every year, and that's not a burden on the tenants at all you know. | Jun 28 12:29 |
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| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | most Americans do not even own a home | Jun 28 12:30 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | mortgage does not count as ownership | Jun 28 12:30 |
| DaemonFC | If you complain about it, they'll tell you to get out and then you just have to pay the same or more so some other jerk. | Jun 28 12:30 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | the bank i s the landlord | Jun 28 12:30 |
| DaemonFC | You can't win. | Jun 28 12:30 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, they also don't fix anything. | Jun 28 12:30 |
| DaemonFC | And you have to throw away more money than you planned on because of PMI and homeowner's insurance, and directly paying the taxes to the government. | Jun 28 12:31 |
| matey | roys on a real american kick today | Jun 28 12:31 |
| DaemonFC | Which are going to be a hell of a lot more than $1,600 a year baked into your rent. | Jun 28 12:31 |
| matey | i hope it makes being british less stupid | Jun 28 12:31 |
| matey | not that roy is even british | Jun 28 12:31 |
| DaemonFC | The going rate on property taxes on a house around here are like $6,000-8,000 a year. | Jun 28 12:31 |
| matey | how are things in germany, i wonder | Jun 28 12:31 |
| techrights-news | COVID-19 patent profiteers like Bill Gates, the enabler of the child sex trafficking ring of jeffrey Epstein ☛ https://www.thenation.com/article/environment/oxfam-windfall-tax-food-climate/ | Source: The Nation | Jun 28 12:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenation.com | A Windfall Tax on Covid Profits Could Ease the Catastrophic Food Crisis | The Nation | Jun 28 12:32 | |
| matey | if we ask herr goebbels, not great | Jun 28 12:32 |
| DaemonFC | So you're paying as much in taxes as you would be to rent, and that's before the mortgage and the insurance and repairs. | Jun 28 12:32 |
| matey | of course being poor sucks no matter where you life | Jun 28 12:32 |
| DaemonFC | Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3, Most people don't think of this until they're in there getting fucked six ways to Sunday on "home ownership". | Jun 28 12:32 |
| DaemonFC | And then the furnace goes out too. | Jun 28 12:32 |
| techrights-news | Polluter... like the person who gives bribes to Pro Publica, Bill Gates, the world's biggest polluter ☛ https://www.propublica.org/article/pollution-kentucky-westlake-chemical-cancer | Jun 28 12:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.propublica.org | The Polluter Just Got a Million-Dollar Fine. That Won’t Cure This Woman’s Rare Cancer. — ProPublica | Jun 28 12:32 | |
| matey | roy talks of retiring in his 40s so i guess he wouldnt know | Jun 28 12:32 |
| DaemonFC | Eh why not? | Jun 28 12:33 |
| DaemonFC | Ever since 2008, have you seen what it's like trying to get a job? | Jun 28 12:33 |
| DaemonFC | Eventually one might call you back but you'll be putting pizzas in the oven at Little Caesars for $12 an hour. | Jun 28 12:34 |
| DaemonFC | Especially since they can nitpick and if there's anything at all wrong with you they can move on to the next. | Jun 28 12:34 |
| DaemonFC | Richard Stallman was actually right about Disability. | Jun 28 12:34 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | matey: semi | Jun 28 12:35 |
| DaemonFC | It hardly makes sense trying to "catch" anyone because what kind of a job would they have if you did? | Jun 28 12:35 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | like part time | Jun 28 12:35 |
| DaemonFC | Not that it stops the politicians. | Jun 28 12:35 |
| matey | home ownership in the united states is 65% | Jun 28 12:35 |
| DaemonFC | They'd prefer you die on a park bench in the cold. | Jun 28 12:35 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | our expenses are low, but this inflation rate is insane | Jun 28 12:35 |
| DaemonFC | Where you won't bother them. | Jun 28 12:35 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | matey: how do they count kids and couples? | Jun 28 12:35 |
| matey | higher than france | Jun 28 12:35 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | also, how do they count one person with 10 homes? | Jun 28 12:36 |
| matey | higher than sweden | Jun 28 12:36 |
| DaemonFC | Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3, I'm dreading this phone call. Almost makes me want to text. | Jun 28 12:36 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | phone | Jun 28 12:36 |
| matey | oh.. and higher than the united kingdom. | Jun 28 12:36 |
| DaemonFC | Like, how do you comfortably bring up "So I saw MY apartment on the listings?". | Jun 28 12:36 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | mortgages are common here | Jun 28 12:36 |
| matey | considerably higher than germany. | Jun 28 12:36 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | if they count mortgages too, then it's not meaningful | Jun 28 12:36 |
| DaemonFC | I mean, like, I always end up coming off as annoyed and pissed off that I have to stop and deal with people. | Jun 28 12:36 |
| matey | for some reason, roy is just obsessed with the well-being of americans | Jun 28 12:37 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | maybe 65% is like US "unemployment" rate | Jun 28 12:37 |
| matey | even its when its bullshit. | Jun 28 12:37 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | where they don't count "unemployment" at all | Jun 28 12:37 |
| DaemonFC | Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3, | Jun 28 12:37 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | they count "number of people actively seeking job in past 6 months" | Jun 28 12:37 |
| DaemonFC | They want forty year mortgages here now. | Jun 28 12:37 |
| matey | hey, idiot-- american home ownership is higher than british OR your actual country of origin | Jun 28 12:37 |
| DaemonFC | Nobody at the banks want affordable home sale prices. | Jun 28 12:37 |
| DaemonFC | They want 40 year mortgages that are pure interest. | Jun 28 12:37 |
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| matey | just saying | Jun 28 12:37 |
| matey | youre fake british superiority doesnt hold water today | Jun 28 12:38 |
| matey | not on on this one | Jun 28 12:38 |
| DaemonFC | Home ownership in the US has been declining rapidly. | Jun 28 12:38 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | germany is also expensive | Jun 28 12:38 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | but let me check | Jun 28 12:38 |
| DaemonFC | The banks play games with people where they keep stuff off the market to drive the prices up on other things. | Jun 28 12:38 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | can you give a link | Jun 28 12:38 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | so I can check what they calculate? | Jun 28 12:38 |
| matey | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_home_ownership_rate | Jun 28 12:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | List of countries by home ownership rate - Wikipedia | Jun 28 12:38 | |
| DaemonFC | Even to the point where the home has been empty so long they're out there tearing it down later. | Jun 28 12:38 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | many people consider mortgage "home ownership" | Jun 28 12:38 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | I ndispute that | Jun 28 12:38 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | I know families and couple who "owned" a home | Jun 28 12:39 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | and then don't | Jun 28 12:39 |
| matey | you can dispute round earth if you want | Jun 28 12:39 |
| DaemonFC | Owing a bank for 30 or 40 years isn't ownership. | Jun 28 12:39 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | DaemonFC will tell you his parents had "homes" | Jun 28 12:39 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | and now rent | Jun 28 12:39 |
| matey | i put no stock in your self-serving massage of statistics | Jun 28 12:39 |
| DaemonFC | My parents had a lot of homes and never paid off a single one. | Jun 28 12:39 |
| matey | so you can boast about things that have nothing to do with you | Jun 28 12:39 |
| DaemonFC | They were lucky enough to sell into a market where prices were rising and not still owe the bank when they moved out. | Jun 28 12:39 |
| DaemonFC | But that's not a guarantee. | Jun 28 12:39 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | not many people own a home | Jun 28 12:39 |
| matey | you want to talk about home ownership, youre not even a citizen where you live | Jun 28 12:40 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | the media BS tells them loan from the bank means ownership | Jun 28 12:40 |
| matey | they could boot you out at any time, and you talk about the bank being the real owner of a home | Jun 28 12:40 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | it doesn't mean jack *** | Jun 28 12:40 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | it just means you are more enslaved than before | Jun 28 12:40 |
| DaemonFC | No it doesn't. | Jun 28 12:40 |
| matey | then why bring it up? | Jun 28 12:40 |
| DaemonFC | Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3, I owned a Kia. | Jun 28 12:40 |
| DaemonFC | Two missed payments and a bankruptcy, I don't own it. | Jun 28 12:40 |
| DaemonFC | And that was only a 6.5 year loan. | Jun 28 12:40 |
| DaemonFC | Now consider 30 or 40 years. | Jun 28 12:41 |
| DaemonFC | On a house. | Jun 28 12:41 |
| DaemonFC | That costs twice as much because it's in Illinois. | Jun 28 12:41 |
| matey | heres what i think: you were having your daily pride vs american situation | Jun 28 12:41 |
| matey | your information was wank again | Jun 28 12:41 |
| matey | so you turned on a dime wrt your position | Jun 28 12:41 |
| DaemonFC | With the government parasites putting a second mortgage on it that never goes away ($8,000 property tax bill) | Jun 28 12:41 |
| matey | you were just implying americans are in a bad situation wrt living situation-- which is true | Jun 28 12:42 |
| matey | though not for the reason you stated | Jun 28 12:42 |
| DaemonFC | So even if you ever do own it, you still have to rent it....from the government. | Jun 28 12:42 |
| matey | now youre saying theyre LESS "enslaved" based on your definition | Jun 28 12:42 |
| matey | imo you just make shit up as you go | Jun 28 12:42 |
| matey | at least with some things, like this. | Jun 28 12:42 |
| matey | like bancruptcy being a different thing in the usa | Jun 28 12:42 |
| DaemonFC | There's a homestead exemption in Illinois, but it's laughable. The government taxes the shit out of you here. | Jun 28 12:42 |
| matey | because you wanted to feel better than dfc | Jun 28 12:42 |
| matey | but bankruptcy isnt different in the uk or the eu | Jun 28 12:43 |
| matey | its the same thing there it is in the states | Jun 28 12:43 |
| DaemonFC | Bankruptcy is bankruptcy. | Jun 28 12:43 |
| techrights-news | "We’re the richest country in the world, home to the richest people on the planet. We can, and we must, treat our workers with the dignity and respect" ☛ https://robertreich.org/post/688269074971672576 | Source: Robert Reich | Jun 28 12:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-robertreich.org | Robert Reich (4 Myths About Raising the Minimum Wage The federal...) | Jun 28 12:43 | |
| matey | and you cant find a single country where "bankrupcty" only applies to corporations like you said | Jun 28 12:43 |
| matey | "wikipedia failed me" | Jun 28 12:43 |
| DaemonFC | It's what happens when you can't pay your debts anymore and need a court order to protect you from your creditors. | Jun 28 12:43 |
| matey | i think facts fail you. often. | Jun 28 12:43 |
| matey | because you make things up a lot. | Jun 28 12:43 |
| matey | not the things you CITE | Jun 28 12:44 |
| matey | just the ones you pull from your arse. | Jun 28 12:44 |
| DaemonFC | The Philippines maybe, but it's not a "real" country. | Jun 28 12:44 |
| matey | you ever heard of cheers? | Jun 28 12:44 |
| DaemonFC | It's a corrupt and autocratic dictatorship. | Jun 28 12:44 |
| matey | took place not far from the fsf | Jun 28 12:44 |
| matey | there was this guy, cliff clavin | Jun 28 12:44 |
| DaemonFC | If you owe people money, you go and hide somewhere. | Jun 28 12:44 |
| matey | routinely used facts and trivia to produce an air of superiority | Jun 28 12:44 |
| DaemonFC | The entire country owes money it can't pay to outfits like the IMF, for "loans" that "improve their lives" by being stolen by people like the Marcos family. | Jun 28 12:45 |
| matey | got it from his mother | Jun 28 12:45 |
| matey | just saying. | Jun 28 12:45 |
| DaemonFC | The US government is in quite a lot of debt, but we don't have anything like the Marcos family going on here. | Jun 28 12:45 |
| techrights-news | "the FAA and the FCC (the agency that actually knows how spectrum works) had gotten into a bit of an ugly tussle over the FAA’s claim that 5G could harm air travel safety." ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/27/verizon-att-delay-5g-due-to-ongoing-scuff-up-over-airplane-interference/ | Source: Techdirt | Jun 28 12:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Verizon, AT&T Delay 5G Due To Ongoing Scuff Up Over Airplane Interference | Techdirt | Jun 28 12:46 | |
| DaemonFC | *Redeems SDRs and flees the country with them....Bongbong next...* | Jun 28 12:46 |
| DaemonFC | matey, Unfortunately, there is no total limit to how much debt you can find yourself in. | Jun 28 12:47 |
| DaemonFC | Sometimes married couples take turns filing bankruptcy here and stagger it. | Jun 28 12:47 |
| DaemonFC | Like "Okay, I'll pay your medical bills off and file this time. You're up next.". | Jun 28 12:47 |
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| DaemonFC | If you're married, you can effectively file bankruptcy twice as often. | Jun 28 12:48 |
| DaemonFC | Unless you live in one of a few community property states. | Jun 28 12:48 |
| DaemonFC | It's less than ideal. You may both have a bankruptcy on your credit report when you go looking for a place to rent. | Jun 28 12:48 |
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| DaemonFC | But it beats having hospitals and shit chasing you down. | Jun 28 12:48 |
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| DaemonFC | Welcome to America. You may not be dead, but you'll wish you were when you get the bill. | Jun 28 12:49 |
| matey | anybody can get facts wrong of course | Jun 28 12:50 |
| DaemonFC | Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3, I call mom sometimes for advice on whether I should bother taking a problem to the doctor or hospital. | Jun 28 12:50 |
| matey | its funny how so much of what you get wrong subtly implies something personal about other people you... are in some kind of competition with | Jun 28 12:50 |
| DaemonFC | She's a nurse at least, I suppose. | Jun 28 12:50 |
| matey | just a trend ive spotted over time | Jun 28 12:50 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | https://tradingeconomics.com/united-kingdom/government-debt 2.3 trillion pounds | Jun 28 12:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tradingeconomics.com | United Kingdom Public Sector Net Debt Ex Banks - May 2022 Data - 1975-2021 Historical | Jun 28 12:50 | |
| DaemonFC | Like, if you break your toe, you can go hobble in there so they can do nothing except make a splint and bill you $4,000 for saying yeah your tow is broken. | Jun 28 12:50 |
| matey | okay | Jun 28 12:51 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | was 0.5 before the economy collapsed | Jun 28 12:51 |
| DaemonFC | You can do that at home with some tape and cotton balls for crying out loud. | Jun 28 12:51 |
| matey | and thats in comparison to... | Jun 28 12:51 |
| DaemonFC | *toe | Jun 28 12:51 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | https://tradingeconomics.com/france/government-debt | Jun 28 12:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tradingeconomics.com | France General Government Debt - 2022 Data - 2023 Forecast - 1995-2021 Historical | Jun 28 12:51 | |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, most of the time the doctor doesn't even do anything, then you get some outrageous bill in the mail. | Jun 28 12:52 |
| matey | the economy is going to continue collapsing | Jun 28 12:52 |
| matey | thats what it does | Jun 28 12:52 |
| matey | it gets built, it collapses | Jun 28 12:52 |
| DaemonFC | You'd think people would at least take their meds so that they don't end up in the ER getting a quarter million in debt after having a heart attack. | Jun 28 12:52 |
| matey | both phases benefit the rich | Jun 28 12:52 |
| matey | differently | Jun 28 12:52 |
| DaemonFC | Which could have been prevented by some meds that cost $4 a month. | Jun 28 12:52 |
| matey | the economy is bipolar. when its not smiling on the rich | Jun 28 12:53 |
| matey | its frowning on the poor | Jun 28 12:53 |
| DaemonFC | It's not JUST the thought of dying that concerns me about going to seek medical attention. | Jun 28 12:53 |
| matey | heads i win, tails you lose | Jun 28 12:53 |
| DaemonFC | It's the idea that you know, a lot of the time it'll either be nothing or something they can't do anything about, but there's still crushing debt involved. | Jun 28 12:53 |
| DaemonFC | You know what the follow-up for a seizure is like? | Jun 28 12:54 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | https://tradingeconomics.com/germany/government-debt | Jun 28 12:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tradingeconomics.com | Germany Public Debt - 2022 Data - 2023 Forecast - 1995-2021 Historical - Chart - News | Jun 28 12:54 | |
| DaemonFC | You literally run up another $50,000 or more in debt so they still can't tell you why it happened, and now you have their attorneys going after you for that AND the $15,000 ER bill too. | Jun 28 12:54 |
| DaemonFC | Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3, For several years with no insurance, I was going to a church that was running a free and sliding scale fee clinic in their basement. | Jun 28 12:56 |
| DaemonFC | They had a retired Nurse Practitioner and some other people who came in and volunteered on Wednesdays, and if you needed medication, they'd help you out if it was generic or get you on some program from the drug companies that covered it. | Jun 28 12:56 |
| matey | https://yewtu.be/watch?v=QZGurhtlve8 | Jun 28 12:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Band On The Run - Invidious | Jun 28 12:57 | |
| DaemonFC | It was one of the few years where I was getting something approaching decent medical care, and then Obamacare caused them to have to shut it all down. | Jun 28 12:57 |
| DaemonFC | All their patients got "expanded medicaid" and couldn't use it anywhere, but it's "fraud" to give someone free medical care if they have Medicaid, and they didn't have a billind department at the church, so.... | Jun 28 12:58 |
| DaemonFC | No more free clinic. | Jun 28 12:58 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▆▃▅▆▆▅▅▆▄▃▅▆▆▆▄▆▆▆▄▆▅▅▅▆▅▅▅▅▅▆▁ avg(k/sec) 43.21 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▁▁▂▂▁▂▁▂▁▂▁▂▁▂▁▁▂▁▁▁▁▂▁▁▁▂▁▂▁▂▂▁▂▁▂▂▁▂▂▁ avg(k/sec) 5.86▕ swarm size (avg): 0 ⟲ | Jun 28 12:59 |
| DaemonFC | Well, no more 5% back on gas in a few days. Goes down to 4% on my other card though. I did figure out how to get 5% for another quarter though. BP's app lets you tell it what pump you're at and pay through Paypal. And Discover's next quarter has Paypal at 5%. so sending the gas station through Paypal makes it code as Paypal, not gas. | Jun 28 13:02 |
| matey | christians are not my favourite people today | Jun 28 13:03 |
| matey | religion doesnt bother me-- religious persecution does | Jun 28 13:03 |
| matey | by "religious persecution" i mean people imposing their beliefs on people to their detriment or oppression | Jun 28 13:03 |
| matey | im against theocracy in all forms | Jun 28 13:03 |
| matey | im really only annoyed with the ones responsible for this roe v wade shit | Jun 28 13:04 |
| matey | but my first response is to change all my purchasing habits-- how much of my money gets spent where | Jun 28 13:04 |
| techrights-news | WINNUKE Post Morte gemini://gem.rmgr.dev/blog/2022-06-28-winnuke-post-mortem.gmi | Jun 28 13:04 |
| matey | to cut back substantially on how much of it goes to people on the religious right | Jun 28 13:05 |
| matey | one guy i know is to blame for this, gets tipped a lot by me | Jun 28 13:05 |
| matey | i will tip him the same | Jun 28 13:05 |
| matey | he will be seeing me a lot less often | Jun 28 13:05 |
| techrights-news | </p></blockquote></li> | Jun 28 13:05 |
| matey | ill be buying groceries differently | Jun 28 13:05 |
| techrights-news | Called To The Giallo gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1045 "There is nothing quite like being able to witness a really good Giallo picture on the big screen. " | Jun 28 13:05 |
| matey | of course this is just a bandage move | Jun 28 13:06 |
| matey | ultimately theocracy needs to fucking end | Jun 28 13:06 |
| matey | ill defend religious people from mandatory atheism | Jun 28 13:06 |
| matey | today its the opposite of that | Jun 28 13:06 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | mandatory gravity | Jun 28 13:07 |
| matey | gravity isnt a belief, and no one is required to believe in it | Jun 28 13:07 |
| matey | its not illegal to believe in some idiotic alternative to gravity | Jun 28 13:08 |
| matey | in some countries, people ARE actually persecuted for having beliefs | Jun 28 13:08 |
| matey | im still against that | Jun 28 13:08 |
| matey | atheists seem to not care very much about that, theyre being acting intellectually superior | Jun 28 13:08 |
| matey | busy | Jun 28 13:09 |
| matey | but just like not all christians are to blame for this theocratic horseshit | Jun 28 13:09 |
| matey | not all atheists are pompous twits | Jun 28 13:09 |
| matey | but the ones who are get so old | Jun 28 13:09 |
| matey | smug self-superiority is just as annoying on atheists as it is on christians who say theyll pray for you when you disagree on something | Jun 28 13:10 |
| matey | i wont lie though | Jun 28 13:10 |
| matey | if i see any atheists digging in on christians in the near future | Jun 28 13:10 |
| matey | ill probably just keep walking | Jun 28 13:10 |
| matey | they are not my favourite tribe today | Jun 28 13:11 |
| matey | some people are already past this and trying to build a world where every person is a true individual | Jun 28 13:12 |
| matey | and none of this matters | Jun 28 13:12 |
| matey | i think thats a fine goal, i support that | Jun 28 13:12 |
| techrights-news | Computer Scientists are not "technophobes"; Computer Scientists know a lot better how computers work and therefore they oppose and object to certain aspects of computers/ing, which the marketing industry brainwashes the "masses" (general population) to not only like but think that it needs. | Jun 28 13:13 |
| matey | we have a ways to go | Jun 28 13:13 |
| matey | pretending we are already there is a sort of naive utopianism i dont subscribe to | Jun 28 13:14 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | atheists don't really do this | Jun 28 13:15 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | they don't need to "convert" people | Jun 28 13:15 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | no financial advantage | Jun 28 13:15 |
| matey | atheists don't really do this <- lol | Jun 28 13:16 |
| techrights-news | Tories ☛ https://www.desmog.com/2022/06/27/climate-denial-funder-set-to-become-tory-peer/ | Source: DeSmog | Jun 28 13:17 |
| *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: Leaving) | Jun 28 13:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Climate Denial Funder Set to Become Tory Peer - DeSmog | Jun 28 13:17 | |
| matey | no financial advantage <- if you can make money on invisible men who are most likely plagiarised from egyptian mythology | Jun 28 13:17 |
| matey | you can make money on anything, including counterarguments | Jun 28 13:17 |
| matey | and as im fond of saying (but not the first) incentive is not always about money | Jun 28 13:18 |
| matey | influence, control, ego, even "fun" | Jun 28 13:18 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | atheism is an absence of something | Jun 28 13:18 |
| matey | but no incentive? rofl | Jun 28 13:18 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | I am atheist to Allah | Jun 28 13:18 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | and atheist to jehovah | Jun 28 13:18 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | and atheist to jesus | Jun 28 13:18 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | and atheist to many things | Jun 28 13:18 |
| matey | now you dont even understand your own position | Jun 28 13:18 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | christians are also atheist to Allah | Jun 28 13:19 |
| matey | atheism falls into two categories | Jun 28 13:19 |
| matey | weak and strong | Jun 28 13:19 |
| matey | weak atheism is practically synonymous with agnosticism | Jun 28 13:19 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | agnostic = I don't know | Jun 28 13:19 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | atheist = it's bollox, I dopnt''c are | Jun 28 13:19 |
| matey | strong atheism is a belief in the absence of something | Jun 28 13:19 |
| matey | "there is no god" | Jun 28 13:19 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | atheist+ = I need to convince others of my beliefs | Jun 28 13:19 |
| SomeH4x0r | I know a Muslim on digdeeper's chat (matey had been there once), who tries to convert others | Jun 28 13:19 |
| SomeH4x0r | I can try bringing him here if there is any reason to | Jun 28 13:20 |
| matey | atheist+ = I need to convince others of my beliefs <- now youre contradicting yourself | Jun 28 13:20 |
| SomeH4x0r | however, I have no idea what are you talking ago, I just recognize "religion/atheism" | Jun 28 13:20 |
| SomeH4x0r | *talking about | Jun 28 13:20 |
| matey | <Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3> atheists don't really do this <Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3> they don't need to "convert" people | Jun 28 13:20 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | some people build an image around atheist as a movement | Jun 28 13:20 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | like the "four horsemen" | Jun 28 13:21 |
| matey | so there are atheists who try to convert people | Jun 28 13:21 |
| matey | and i really dont have a problem with the fact that people want to argue for a viewpoint | Jun 28 13:21 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | dawkins could carry on doing his own thig in genetics | Jun 28 13:21 |
| matey | its just that when atheists do that, they often use tactics that are just as ridiculous as the ones they hate from christians | Jun 28 13:21 |
| matey | and i think its funny because THOSE atheists dont even give me peace from the one thing i dislike about christians the most | Jun 28 13:22 |
| matey | which is beating dead horses about absolute bullshit, and shallow meaningless takes on something that can be profound and interesting | Jun 28 13:22 |
| matey | atheism can be beautiful | Jun 28 13:22 |
| matey | people on some kind of atheist crusade dont have time to be interesting-- theyre busy being right | Jun 28 13:22 |
| matey | same as the crusader christians | Jun 28 13:23 |
| matey | who are pretty much at the top of my shitlist today | Jun 28 13:23 |
| matey | i havent been this annoyed with them since the 2000 erection | Jun 28 13:23 |
| matey | and that worked out SO well | Jun 28 13:24 |
| techrights-news | Gulag Drive ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/27/dangerous-ruling-says-if-someone-goes-onto-your-openly-shared-google-drive-you-can-sue-them-for-unauthorized-access/ | Source: Techdirt | Jun 28 13:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Dangerous Ruling Says If Someone Goes Onto Your Openly Shared Google Drive, You Can Sue Them For Unauthorized Access | Techdirt | Jun 28 13:26 | |
| matey | there is one thing ill give the christians though | Jun 28 13:27 |
| matey | imo it would have been smarter than what happened | Jun 28 13:27 |
| matey | maybe helped prevent what happened recently | Jun 28 13:27 |
| matey | if the feds are going to mandate RIGHTS for procedures that go against christian beliefs | Jun 28 13:28 |
| matey | maybe-- MAYBE there should have been some way to make it so you get a tax refund | Jun 28 13:28 |
| matey | on any money that helps fund abortions, contraception, that sort of thing | Jun 28 13:28 |
| matey | the rights should be mandated | Jun 28 13:28 |
| matey | but maybe telling peopel to pay for things they dont believe in shouldnt | Jun 28 13:29 |
| matey | of course thats a huge slippery slope and thats why maybe its an awful idea | Jun 28 13:29 |
| matey | but i feel it would be even easier to say "well you dont get to tell other people what to do based on your religion" if they didnt have to also pay for medicine/medical thigns they dont believe in | Jun 28 13:30 |
| matey | it kind of takes one of their arguments away. maybe its worth it, maybe it isnt | Jun 28 13:30 |
| matey | moot now | Jun 28 13:30 |
| matey | something to consider though the next time they mandate basic human rights for people | Jun 28 13:30 |
| matey | that is, make the option something people dont have a "right" to deny people | Jun 28 13:31 |
| matey | we now have permissive abortion laws | Jun 28 13:31 |
| matey | your state CAN allow but they can also take away those rights | Jun 28 13:32 |
| matey | roe v wade was abortionleft | Jun 28 13:32 |
| matey | you didnt have the right to deny people the right | Jun 28 13:32 |
| matey | and ive never considered any government to have jurisdiction over the contents of a womb | Jun 28 13:36 |
| *sp1n (~sp1n@yvwf4zz6dnqky.irc) has joined #techrights | Jun 28 13:37 | |
| matey | even though im on the same side of the issue as they are | Jun 28 13:40 |
| matey | if i encounter any pro-choice activists talking about the gpl | Jun 28 13:40 |
| matey | im going to tell them "well, to be fair-- roe v wade WAS Viral" | Jun 28 13:41 |
| techrights-news | Bastian Best is Still Wrong and Dishonest About Software Patents | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/06/28/getting-it-all-wrong-about-software-patents/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/28/getting-it-all-wrong-about-software-patents/ | Jun 28 13:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bastian Best is Still Wrong and Dishonest About Software Patents | Techrights | Jun 28 13:41 | |
| techrights-news | "Übersprungsverhalten" gemini://alexschroeder.ch/page/2022-06-28%20Evolution%20of%20a%20map | Jun 28 13:44 |
| techrights-news | Today in #Techrights • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166576 | Jun 28 13:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jun 28 13:47 | |
| techrights-news | Plasma Mobile Gear ⚙ 22.06 is Out • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166577 | Jun 28 13:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Plasma Mobile Gear ⚙ 22.06 is Out | Tux Machines | Jun 28 13:52 | |
| techrights-news | Germany ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/27/germany-says-hell-no-to-eu-proposal-to-outlaw-encryption/ | Source: Techdirt | Jun 28 13:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Germany Says “Hell, No” To EU Proposal To Outlaw Encryption | Techdirt | Jun 28 13:53 | |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | sp1n: doktor ^^ | Jun 28 13:53 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | might be of interest to you | Jun 28 13:53 |
| techrights-news | EndeavourOS Artemis is the First ISO with ARM Installation Support • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166578 | Jun 28 13:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | EndeavourOS Artemis is the First ISO with ARM Installation Support | Tux Machines | Jun 28 13:54 | |
| sp1n | Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3: thanks, not really | Jun 28 13:54 |
| techrights-news | "trademark application submitted by Ohio State University for using the word “the”" ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/27/facepalm-uspto-grants-ohio-state-university-trademark-on-the-word-the/ | Source: Techdirt | Jun 28 13:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Facepalm: USPTO Grants Ohio State University Trademark On The Word ‘The’ | Techdirt | Jun 28 13:54 | |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 28 13:55 |
| sp1n | meanwhile, bundled libtls-bearssl and bearssl; and linked catgirl irc client against those | Jun 28 13:55 |
| sp1n | i noticed however, of cause, statically linked binaries cannot override with LD_PRELOAD to hook into proxychains | Jun 28 13:55 |
| MinceR | duh | Jun 28 13:55 |
| sp1n | so, i keep that dynamically linked | Jun 28 13:56 |
| sp1n | surprisingly, libtls-bearssl transition went smoot | Jun 28 13:56 |
| sp1n | smooth | Jun 28 13:56 |
| techrights-news | We urge all EPO workers based in Munich to attend tomorrow's protest; it’s not a waste of time, it sends a strong and effective message http://techrights.org/2022/06/28/epo-munich-protest-2022/ | Jun 28 13:56 |
| sp1n | and both catgirl irc client and pounce bounce support it :) | Jun 28 13:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO Protest Tomorrow in Munich | Techrights | Jun 28 13:56 | |
| sp1n | just for fun, i'll do something else next... trying to re-integrate qudos quake2 client with softsdl renderer, which is c-only and i can play quake2 then | Jun 28 13:58 |
| sp1n | prboom-plus is back already, only needed to carefully pick some libsdl1 and prboom version, and it's c-only up-to-date | Jun 28 13:58 |
| sp1n | darkplaces, is another one, already fiddled into sse2neon intrinsics while ago, for software-rendering of this | Jun 28 13:59 |
| sp1n | anyway, ssl sucks | Jun 28 13:59 |
| sp1n | long-term, i'll try to follow along with bearssl and libtls-bearssl _only_, and no more libressl or gnutls | Jun 28 14:00 |
| sp1n | with the recent updated breaking pinned certificate matching... that's a no-go, and i am not willing to review and repair this | Jun 28 14:00 |
| sp1n | i mean, pinned certificate matching must not have broken anywhere | Jun 28 14:01 |
| sp1n | that's such a type of crap, surprisingly libressl was involved, although i am not sure who/what was at fault this time | Jun 28 14:01 |
| sp1n | another one i found... since i want to statically compile/link my distro, this will prevent LD_PRELOAD and proxychains/torsocks | Jun 28 14:11 |
| sp1n | however, this one should do the trick: https://darkk.net.ru/redsocks/ | Jun 28 14:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-darkk.net.ru | redsocks - transparent socks redirector | Jun 28 14:11 | |
| DaemonFC | Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3, CVS says people are panicking and stocking up on Plan B pills now. | Jun 28 14:11 |
| DaemonFC | So they're limiting them to 3 per customer to slow them down. | Jun 28 14:12 |
| matey | /me ignores another german spambot | Jun 28 14:20 |
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| matey | if you change your handle every day, and its not for privacy, you just want to get around individuals filtering you, youre a spambot imo | Jun 28 14:21 |
| matey | /me filters them anwyay | Jun 28 14:21 |
| sp1n | matey: any idea, what changed inside libretls which broke pinned ssl certificate matching? | Jun 28 14:22 |
| techrights-news | KDE Releases Plasma Mobile Gear 22.06 for Linux Phones, Here’s What’s New • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166579 | Jun 28 14:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Releases Plasma Mobile Gear 22.06 for Linux Phones, Here’s What’s New | Tux Machines | Jun 28 14:22 | |
| techrights-news | HandBrake: Free Tool for Converting Videos from Any Format • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166580 | Jun 28 14:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | HandBrake: Free Tool for Converting Videos from Any Format | Tux Machines | Jun 28 14:22 | |
| techrights-news | KDE Plasma 5.25.2 Released to Improve Flatpak Support, Present Windows Effect • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166581 | Jun 28 14:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Plasma 5.25.2 Released to Improve Flatpak Support, Present Windows Effect | Tux Machines | Jun 28 14:23 | |
| techrights-news | How to troubleshoot SELinux policy violations | Enable Sysadmin ⚓ https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/diagnose-selinux-violations ䷉ Source: Red Hat | ICBM | GNU | Linux | Jun 28 14:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | How to troubleshoot SELinux policy violations | Enable Sysadmin | Jun 28 14:23 | |
| techrights-news | Buzzword slingers https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/6/what-defines-high-performing-it-team-cios-speak | Jun 28 14:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | What defines a high-performing IT team? 5 CIOs speak out | The Enterprisers Project | Jun 28 14:25 | |
| techrights-news | Clown computing nonsense or the false dichotomy of outsourcing https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/6/moving-cloud-workloads | Jun 28 14:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | Moving cloud workloads: 4 essential strategies | The Enterprisers Project | Jun 28 14:25 | |
| DaemonFC | Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3, My landlord laughed and said that when they were setting up their account on those websites years back, it was 102 that was open. | Jun 28 14:26 |
| DaemonFC | So now whenever they have units here, it lists them as 102 on the site. | Jun 28 14:26 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | phew | Jun 28 14:26 |
| DaemonFC | He said he does have two units in the building open, but they're 202 and one over on the other side of the building. | Jun 28 14:27 |
| techrights-news | Cross-site scripting: Explanation and prevention with Go | Red Hat Developer ⚓ https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/06/28/cross-site-scripting-explanation-and-prevention-go The problem is the Web itself and what it is allowing to do | Jun 28 14:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developers.redhat.com | Cross-site scripting: Explanation and prevention with Go | Red Hat Developer | Jun 28 14:27 | |
| techrights-news | Facebook censors posts about#HowTo get abortion pills. Allows posts about illegally transferring guns and marijuana. - BaronHK’s Rants ⚓ https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/06/28/facebook-censors-posts-about-how-to-get-abortion-pills-allows-posts-about-illegally-transferring-guns-and-marijuana/ ䷉ Source: baronhk | Jun 28 14:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Facebook censors posts about how to get abortion pills. Allows posts about illegally transferring guns and marijuana. – BaronHK's Rants | Jun 28 14:28 | |
| techrights-news | Outreachy Interns introduction – May to August 2022 ⚓ https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/outreachy-interns-introduction-may-2022/ ䷉ Source: fedoraproject | Jun 28 14:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-communityblog.fedoraproject.org | Outreachy Interns introduction – May to August 2022 – Fedora Community Blog | Jun 28 14:29 | |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | XRevan86: is that connected to thee photos? | Jun 28 14:32 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | *these | Jun 28 14:33 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | Volodymyr Zelenskyy said there were more than 1,000 people inside the shopping center at the time of the attack." ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/06/27/scores-feared-dead-and-wounded-russian-missiles-hit-ukraine-shopping-center | Jun 28 14:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Scores Feared Dead and Wounded as Russian Missiles Hit Ukraine Shopping Center | Jun 28 14:33 | |
| techrights-news | Fedora Family / RedHat Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166582 | Jun 28 14:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora Family / RedHat Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 28 14:34 | |
| SomeH4x0r | there are two bans on the channel, for PyLink | Jun 28 14:35 |
| SomeH4x0r | are they still relevant? | Jun 28 14:35 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2022/06/27/1103479722/as-states-ban-abortion-californians-open-their-arms-and-wallets | Jun 28 14:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.npr.org | Californian volunteer networks get ready for influx of patients seeking abortion : Shots - Health News : NPR | Jun 28 14:37 | |
| DaemonFC | Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3, People have to be careful about talking about abortion on Facebook now. | Jun 28 14:37 |
| DaemonFC | Californian Lee Mitchell posted a message on Facebook, written in code: | Jun 28 14:37 |
| DaemonFC | "If you are a person who suddenly finds yourself with a need to go camping in another state friendly towards camping, just know that I will happily drive you, support you, and not talk about the camping trip to anyone ever." | Jun 28 14:37 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | SomeH4x0r: they are in 2 other channels now | Jun 28 14:37 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | you can join #spam and #qemu | Jun 28 14:38 |
| DaemonFC | Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3, It should not be dangerous to talk about abortion. | Jun 28 14:38 |
| DaemonFC | Facebook lets Nazi groups do whatever they hell they want and places your account on a 3 day suspension for saying you can get an abortion over in Illinois. | Jun 28 14:39 |
| DaemonFC | Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3, Are people ever going to see Fakebook and Shitter for what they really are? | Jun 28 14:40 |
| DaemonFC | What does it take? | Jun 28 14:40 |
| techrights-news | SCOTUS ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/06/27/looming-us-supreme-court-climate-decision-could-doom-hope-livable-future | Source: Common Dreams | Jun 28 14:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Looming US Supreme Court Climate Decision Could 'Doom' Hope for Livable Future | Jun 28 14:40 | |
| MinceR | extinction | Jun 28 14:40 |
| DaemonFC | Matthew J Gulag is on Shitter. | Jun 28 14:40 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | DaemonFC: yes, BUT | Jun 28 14:40 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | it got worse | Jun 28 14:40 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | you say it like, | Jun 28 14:40 |
| sp1n | aren't there condoms available for sale in USA everywhere? | Jun 28 14:41 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | people "woke up" | Jun 28 14:41 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | it actually got worse | Jun 28 14:41 |
| DaemonFC | It's a good thing that mjg59_ is on Twitter instead of somewhere where it would be easier for people to walk in and accidentally read his posts. | Jun 28 14:41 |
| DaemonFC | They push people to get an account and hide your conversations from them if they don't, and it's not worth getting an account to read people like him. | Jun 28 14:41 |
| DaemonFC | <sp1n> aren't there condoms available for sale in USA everywhere? | Jun 28 14:41 |
| sp1n | this entire discussion, was mostly obsolete, if the feminist gaga gang promoted condoms instead of abortions | Jun 28 14:42 |
| MinceR | i thought condoms were heresy? | Jun 28 14:42 |
| DaemonFC | You can buy condoms if you have money for condoms, yeah. | Jun 28 14:42 |
| MinceR | every sperm being sacred and all | Jun 28 14:42 |
| DaemonFC | Condoms are hardly perfect. | Jun 28 14:42 |
| sp1n | sure, yet abortions were perfect or what? | Jun 28 14:43 |
| MinceR | still better than christian fundamentalists | Jun 28 14:43 |
| DaemonFC | They break, they slip. They're not perfect. They just work "most of the time". The reason women are hoarding Plan B is so they can take it every time they have sex now, even if the man uses a condom. | Jun 28 14:43 |
| techrights-news | SpellBinding: EWORSUH [Wordo: BOTHY] gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2022-06-28.gmi | Jun 28 14:43 |
| DaemonFC | And, I mean, who can blame them? | Jun 28 14:43 |
| DaemonFC | I don't see Dobbs resulting in more pregnancies. | Jun 28 14:43 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | not just condoms | Jun 28 14:43 |
| DaemonFC | I see it resulting in women being even more averse to having sex with men now, if they live in a state where getting an abortion will be difficult. | Jun 28 14:44 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | there are risk factors other than rapes, incest, and young age | Jun 28 14:44 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | there is also old age | Jun 28 14:44 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | or hereditary issues, embryos with defects you can spot within months, not weeks | Jun 28 14:44 |
| DaemonFC | I've already seen a lot of women saying they won't have sex with men now until this thing is reversed again. | Jun 28 14:44 |
| DaemonFC | I wouldn't have sex with men if I was a woman living in Texas. | Jun 28 14:45 |
| DaemonFC | It's too dangerous now. | Jun 28 14:45 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | it's worse than you put it | Jun 28 14:45 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | it impacts married couples too | Jun 28 14:45 |
| DaemonFC | If you accidentally get pregnant and don't have a reliable car to get to Illinois with, can't do anything about it. | Jun 28 14:45 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | sex-starved men will resort to rape | Jun 28 14:45 |
| sp1n | Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3: for this exceptions exist, if birth of a child would harm health of mother and/or child then abortions are possible | Jun 28 14:45 |
| DaemonFC | Yes, it will make the Incel problem even worse, Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | Jun 28 14:45 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | you let the US taliban turn the US into Afghanistan | Jun 28 14:45 |
| DaemonFC | I didn't let them do anything. | Jun 28 14:46 |
| DaemonFC | It's not like anyone asked me who should be on the Supreme Court. | Jun 28 14:46 |
| MinceR | 28 154549 < sp1n> Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3: for this exceptions exist, if birth of a child would harm health of mother and/or child then abortions are possible | Jun 28 14:46 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | sp1n: maybe for now | Jun 28 14:46 |
| MinceR | depends on the jurisdiction | Jun 28 14:46 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | it's a first step | Jun 28 14:46 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | then 2 months before one | Jun 28 14:46 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | and then 0 | Jun 28 14:46 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | with no exxceptions | Jun 28 14:46 |
| MinceR | and yeah, the bible-humpers are working hard to eliminate such exceptions | Jun 28 14:46 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | and abortion clinicss get banned | Jun 28 14:46 |
| MinceR | because every sperm is sacred | Jun 28 14:46 |
| MinceR | welcome to the New Dark Ages | Jun 28 14:47 |
| DaemonFC | Pretty soon a trip to Illinois is off the table. | Jun 28 14:47 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | (mincer looks for monty python vieo)0 | Jun 28 14:47 |
| sp1n | this isn't what sceptics argue MinceR | Jun 28 14:47 |
| DaemonFC | Then you have to be able to afford a trip to Canada. | Jun 28 14:47 |
| MinceR | no need to look for it, i have it bookmarked | Jun 28 14:47 |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzVHjg3AqIQ | Jun 28 14:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://invidious.privacy.gd/watch?v=bzVHjg3AqIQ | Jun 28 14:47 | |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | you ghve them an inch, they take a mile | Jun 28 14:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Connection timed out after 10000 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://invidious.privacy.gd/watch?v=bzVHjg3AqIQ ) | Jun 28 14:47 | |
| sp1n | advertising for abortions is illegal still, in germany at least | Jun 28 14:47 |
| MinceR | sp1n: "sceptics" is not a homogenous bloc | Jun 28 14:48 |
| DaemonFC | It's not illegal to advertise abortions in Illinois. | Jun 28 14:48 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | https://yewtu.be/watch?v=bzVHjg3AqIQ | Jun 28 14:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Every Sperm is Sacred - Complete - Invidious | Jun 28 14:48 | |
| sp1n | and women must consult an authorized psychologist/medic before abortion | Jun 28 14:48 |
| DaemonFC | You don't have to consult anyone in Illinois before an abortion. | Jun 28 14:48 |
| DaemonFC | You walk in and get one the same afternoon. | Jun 28 14:48 |
| sp1n | often, those medics women consult, are authorized by the church even | Jun 28 14:48 |
| techrights-news | "smart" ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/06/27/odd-inputs-and-peculiar-peripherals-roendi-smart-knob-thinks-outside-the-box/ | Source: Hackaday | Jun 28 14:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Odd Inputs And Peculiar Peripherals: RoenDi Smart Knob Thinks Outside The Box | Hackaday | Jun 28 14:49 | |
| MinceR | yay | Jun 28 14:49 |
| sp1n | and the majority of abortions are conducted, within the legal and organizational framework of this mandatory consultation | Jun 28 14:49 |
| MinceR | oversight of the medical profession by an anti-science cult | Jun 28 14:49 |
| DaemonFC | The states are basically turning into different countries, de facto, due to the Supreme Court. | Jun 28 14:49 |
| MinceR | that's so important to have. | Jun 28 14:49 |
| DaemonFC | The last time this happened, the Civil War eventually broke out. | Jun 28 14:49 |
| DaemonFC | Because major differences make people hate each other more. | Jun 28 14:50 |
| sp1n | what is illegal still: advertising abortions; with some red lines not to be crossed | Jun 28 14:50 |
| MinceR | i'm guessing you have the Christian Fundamentalist Union to thank for such rules in germany | Jun 28 14:50 |
| sp1n | i do not trust the christian conservatives in germany | Jun 28 14:51 |
| DaemonFC | The Supreme Court should just go ahead and declare the US Constitution unconstitutional. | Jun 28 14:51 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | germany: wolfenstein illegal; drone strikes legal | Jun 28 14:51 |
| DaemonFC | They can revive the Articles of Confederation. | Jun 28 14:51 |
| matey | sex-starved men will resort to rape <- i wish roy knew anything about things like this | Jun 28 14:51 |
| matey | rape isnt typically about sex, its about violence | Jun 28 14:51 |
| matey | nothing to do with "sex starved men" | Jun 28 14:51 |
| MinceR | i do not trust any "conservatives" | Jun 28 14:51 |
| DaemonFC | It's about power. | Jun 28 14:51 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | you would be wrong | Jun 28 14:52 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know why you'd rape someone if you just wanted sex. | Jun 28 14:52 |
| matey | you would be wrong <- read a book and come back to it | Jun 28 14:52 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | you speak of "violent rape" | Jun 28 14:52 |
| MinceR | i have yet to hear any of them excommunicate fideath or PiS for turning republics into dictatorships | Jun 28 14:52 |
| DaemonFC | There's always someone to have sex with, even if it's off some sketchy app, or if you resort to paying money for it. | Jun 28 14:52 |
| matey | before you look more stupid | Jun 28 14:52 |
| MinceR | "conservatism" is cancer | Jun 28 14:52 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | like "man snags women into the bushes" | Jun 28 14:52 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | not the date rape | Jun 28 14:52 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | or relationship without consent rape | Jun 28 14:52 |
| matey | sex starved men isnt the primary factor in rape | Jun 28 14:53 |
| matey | at all | Jun 28 14:53 |
| DaemonFC | I've never raped anyone. I have used hookup apps, websites, chatrooms as they were not intended (Yahoo). | Jun 28 14:53 |
| DaemonFC | It's not exactly "wrong" to not want to be in a relationship to have meaningless sex, that's just a fact of living in modern society. | Jun 28 14:54 |
| DaemonFC | Life is too complicated sometimes to want to stop and deal with someone else's baggage. | Jun 28 14:54 |
| DaemonFC | To be married to someone, your interests have to be aligned in a certain way. | Jun 28 14:55 |
| DaemonFC | And many people who get married even, find out it was a huge mistake and it will end up costing them dearly in divorce court later. | Jun 28 14:56 |
| MinceR | except in the case of arranged marriages | Jun 28 14:56 |
| MinceR | in which case your interests are ignored | Jun 28 14:56 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | DaemonFC: not applicable to gay couples, but.. | Jun 28 14:56 |
| DaemonFC | Well, I mean in a "free" country. | Jun 28 14:56 |
| DaemonFC | <Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3> DaemonFC: not applicable to gay couples, but.. | Jun 28 14:56 |
| DaemonFC | What isn't? | Jun 28 14:56 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | without abortion in the state, such "apps" and forums would repel women | Jun 28 14:56 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | and maybe men too | Jun 28 14:56 |
| MinceR | there are different degrees of "free" | Jun 28 14:56 |
| matey | Widespread and systematic rape (e.g., war rape) and sexual slavery can occur during international conflict. These practices are crimes against humanity and war crimes. Rape is also recognized as an element of the crime of genocide https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape | Jun 28 14:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Rape - Wikipedia | Jun 28 14:56 | |
| DaemonFC | <Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3> without abortion in the state, such "apps" and forums would repel women | Jun 28 14:57 |
| *psymin (~psymin@me3biw7mdts84.irc) has joined #techrights | Jun 28 14:57 | |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | men also don't wan to be forced to be parents with a stranger | Jun 28 14:57 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, as well it should. | Jun 28 14:57 |
| *psymin (~psymin@user/psymin) has joined #techrights | Jun 28 14:57 | |
| matey | even the (appearance of) prohibition of gay sex in the bible is actually about conquest rape. | Jun 28 14:57 |
| DaemonFC | Clinics are now seeing the phones ringing off the hooks with people wanting vasectomies and tubal ligations, Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | Jun 28 14:57 |
| DaemonFC | They said they've never seen anything like it before. | Jun 28 14:57 |
| matey | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape#Motives | Jun 28 14:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Rape - Wikipedia | Jun 28 14:57 | |
| DaemonFC | Even in states that have abortion as a right in the law. | Jun 28 14:57 |
| matey | beliefs in family honor and sexual purity; | Jun 28 14:58 |
| matey | attitudes of male sexual entitlement; | Jun 28 14:58 |
| matey | weak legal sanctions for sexual violence. | Jun 28 14:58 |
| MinceR | 28 155719 < matey> even the (appearance of) prohibition of gay sex in the bible is actually about conquest rape. | Jun 28 14:58 |
| MinceR | you'd think a writing written or inspired by an omniscient being could be clear about such things | Jun 28 14:58 |
| DaemonFC | People have responded to the Dobbs ruling with a full blown panic. | Jun 28 14:58 |
| DaemonFC | Even in states where they aren't in any immediate danger. | Jun 28 14:58 |
| matey | <MinceR> 28 155719 < matey> even the (appearance of) prohibition of gay sex in the bible is actually about conquest rape. <- that one is a bit esoteric and hard to prove | Jun 28 14:58 |
| MinceR | i guess bronze-age savages can't even invent a god worth anything. | Jun 28 14:58 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | DaemonFC: US is gonna lose a lot ogf "balls" | Jun 28 14:58 |
| matey | well to be fair, the god of abraham wasnt THAT original | Jun 28 14:58 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | 2022: the year USA lost its balls... or tubes | Jun 28 14:58 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▆▃▅▆▆▅▅▆▄▃▅▆▆▆▄▆▆▆▄▆▅▅▅▆▅▅▅▅▅▆▁ avg(k/sec) 43.21 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▁▁▂▂▁▂▁▂▁▂▁▂▁▂▁▁▂▁▁▁▁▂▁▁▁▂▁▂▁▂▂▁▂▁▂▂▁▂▂▁ avg(k/sec) 5.86▕ swarm size (avg): 0 ⟲ | Jun 28 14:59 |
| matey | 2022: the year USA lost its balls <- god youre an idiot | Jun 28 14:59 |
| matey | No single facet explains the motivation for rape; the underlying motives of rapists can be multi-faceted. Several factors have been proposed: anger,[48] power,[49] sadism, sexual gratification, or evolutionary proclivities.[50][51] However, some factors have significant causal evidence supporting them. | Jun 28 14:59 |
| DaemonFC | Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3, Well, the thinking is that if the abortion ruling is going to stick, the state can't force you to carry a pregnancy if you can't get pregnant at all, ever. | Jun 28 14:59 |
| matey | American clinical psychologist David Lisak, co-author of a 2002 study of undetected rapists,[52] says that compared with non-rapists, both undetected and convicted rapists are measurably more angry at women and more motivated by a desire to dominate and control them | Jun 28 14:59 |
| DaemonFC | So that's what people are doing now. | Jun 28 14:59 |
| matey | its not about sex starved men. | Jun 28 14:59 |
| matey | its more to do with abuse. | Jun 28 15:00 |
| DaemonFC | A vasectomy doesn't remove your testicles. | Jun 28 15:00 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | a lot of rape happens within relationship | Jun 28 15:00 |
| XRevan86 | Schestowitz-Tr3: Yes, that's exactly what this is about. | Jun 28 15:00 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | like one partner does not want it | Jun 28 15:00 |
| sp1n | Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3: good point | Jun 28 15:01 |
| matey | again, all youre doing is proving what a moron you are. | Jun 28 15:01 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | Despatche: I know | Jun 28 15:01 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | that's why I said tubes | Jun 28 15:01 |
| matey | please, continue. | Jun 28 15:01 |
| XRevan86 | Schestowitz-Tr3: The current estimation is 18 people killed. | Jun 28 15:01 |
| DaemonFC | I messed around with someone who had a vasectomy. You can't really tell that there's any difference. Sneak: 100 | Jun 28 15:01 |
| sp1n | most violence and abuse occurs within relationships... David Lisak | Jun 28 15:02 |
| DaemonFC | He said he was bisexual and he didn't want any bastard kids running around and women dragging him into court demanding payments. | Jun 28 15:02 |
| sp1n | i mean, what an expert he is, anger at women sufficed | Jun 28 15:02 |
| DaemonFC | Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3, If I was straight, I'd get a vasectomy. In fact, it would have been done when I was 18. | Jun 28 15:03 |
| DaemonFC | The peace of mind of knowing you won't have any mistakes that drag you even deeper into poverty is totally worth it. | Jun 28 15:04 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | https://yewtu.be/watch?v=VjUhBEqwVhA | Jun 28 15:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | HOME IMPROVEMENT Tim gets a vasectomy - Invidious | Jun 28 15:04 | |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | https://yewtu.be/watch?v=8CluEqKSyKc | Jun 28 15:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | HOME IMPROVEMENT Jill wants Tim to get a vasectomy - Invidious | Jun 28 15:05 | |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | full ep: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=vA3UPBAprh8 | Jun 28 15:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Home Improvement S05E16 The Vasectomy One - Invidious | Jun 28 15:05 | |
| matey | the office one was better | Jun 28 15:05 |
| matey | i wanted to say al bundy but i think that was a circumcision. | Jun 28 15:06 |
| DaemonFC | Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3, The federal poverty line is already a complete misrepresentation. | Jun 28 15:06 |
| DaemonFC | You need twice as much money for any given household size to not be in poverty. | Jun 28 15:06 |
| DaemonFC | They just set it low to make it look like less people are poor. | Jun 28 15:06 |
| DaemonFC | The government barely uses it. | Jun 28 15:07 |
| DaemonFC | They always say 200% of the FPL or 300% or 500%. | Jun 28 15:07 |
| DaemonFC | For the programs for low income people. | Jun 28 15:07 |
| DaemonFC | That's kind of a tell that it's not real. | Jun 28 15:07 |
| DaemonFC | When all the programs admit you need two, three, or five times that much to actually eek out some sort of existence. | Jun 28 15:08 |
| techrights-news | Science-based medicine (SBM) ☛ https://respectfulinsolence.com/2022/06/27/sbm-isnt-so-great-when-you-cant-afford-it/ | Source: Orac | Jun 28 15:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-respectfulinsolence.com | SBM isn't so great when you can't afford it - RESPECTFUL INSOLENCE | Jun 28 15:08 | |
| techrights-news | Whistleblowers ☛ https://thedissenter.org/supreme-court-may-take/ | Source: The Dissenter | Jun 28 15:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thedissenter.org | US Supreme Court Could Go After Whistleblower Law | Jun 28 15:09 | |
| matey | there was a show where a female partner had the guy have a vasectomy | Jun 28 15:10 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | Jill and Tim | Jun 28 15:10 |
| matey | i want to say it was mad about you, but i keep thinking of jan and michael on the office | Jun 28 15:10 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | Home Improvement | Jun 28 15:10 |
| DaemonFC | It is a lot cheaper and less dangerous to get a vasectomy. | Jun 28 15:10 |
| matey | was it actually? | Jun 28 15:10 |
| DaemonFC | You can get a vasectomy for a little over $1,000 I think. | Jun 28 15:11 |
| DaemonFC | It's outpatient. Even if your insurance won't cover it, that's a good investment. | Jun 28 15:11 |
| matey | youve been wrong about everything else today, you deserve to be right about this one. | Jun 28 15:11 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | DaemonFC: DIY "vasectomy kits" | Jun 28 15:11 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | from GAFAM | Jun 28 15:11 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | Amazon: buyer also likes... | Jun 28 15:12 |
| matey | jill and tim had a very mad-about-you-like dynamic | Jun 28 15:12 |
| matey | the guy was a loveable dope and the woman actually gave a shit, but with long suffering and a bit of sarcasm | Jun 28 15:12 |
| matey | not to the point of man-hating or anything | Jun 28 15:13 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | the Neighbou Wilson | Jun 28 15:13 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | was the wise one | Jun 28 15:13 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | man-bashing is SImpsons | Jun 28 15:13 |
| matey | pauls neighbour on mad about you was actually kramer from seinfeld | Jun 28 15:13 |
| matey | man-bashing is SImpsons <- marge loved homer, homer was a really shit husband and father | Jun 28 15:14 |
| DaemonFC | Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3, I'll tell you how hard it is for women to get by. When Gonad the Barbarian's daughter started having kids at age 15, first she stuck him with one. Then by the time she was 20, she had managed to pop out two more. She alternated between jail and the welfare office, and mostly just took up space. Eventually, Gonad told her to get a tubal ligation and he'd pay for it because he was terrified she'd have more and they'd be | Jun 28 15:14 |
| DaemonFC | his problem. So he took her to an OB-GYN, who told her that he wouldn't give her one until she was 21 because she might decide she wanted more, so he was biting his fingernails until she turned 21 that there wouldn't be more, and then she got a tubal ligation from that doctor. When men want something, it happens the same day, no questions asked. | Jun 28 15:14 |
| matey | lisa loved him too | Jun 28 15:14 |
| matey | simpsons wasnt a man-bashing show | Jun 28 15:14 |
| matey | homer was just an idiot | Jun 28 15:14 |
| matey | it was pretty clear too that it was about him, not men in general | Jun 28 15:15 |
| DaemonFC | She didn't want the three she'd already had, she was just too much of a stupid piece of trash to tell men no, make them wear a condom, or go get some pills. | Jun 28 15:15 |
| DaemonFC | So out they kept coming all the way up to Gonad dragging her by the ear to get sterilized. | Jun 28 15:15 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | matey: bart too was portrayed as dumb and oirresponsible | Jun 28 15:17 |
| matey | bart had no decent father figure in his life | Jun 28 15:17 |
| DaemonFC | The part of the story that bothered me, and always has, is there's lots of doctors that refuse to perform tubal ligations and tell women they'll change their mind later "when the right man comes around", but a guy walks in there and asks for the same thing basically, and the doctor tells them "Okay, get on the table and pull your pants down.". | Jun 28 15:17 |
| matey | if it had been a man-bashing show, marge would have taken bart and raised him properly without homer | Jun 28 15:17 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | DaemonFC: the problem started with gonad having kids | Jun 28 15:17 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | he too had far too many | Jun 28 15:18 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | and abused wives | Jun 28 15:18 |
| matey | theres a difference between portraying a dysfunctional family and man-bashing | Jun 28 15:18 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | Was his real name Steve? | Jun 28 15:18 |
| DaemonFC | Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3, He had, I think, 9 grandchildren and two great-grandchildren when he died, and he was only 59! | Jun 28 15:18 |
| DaemonFC | Gonad = Brian | Jun 28 15:18 |
| DaemonFC | Life of Brian | Jun 28 15:18 |
| matey | bart wasnt portrayed as dumb | Jun 28 15:18 |
| matey | he was an underachiever in school, mostly due to acting out | Jun 28 15:18 |
| DaemonFC | Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3, Trash from Ireland by way of a couple hundred years in Kentucky followed by a detour to Indiana. | Jun 28 15:19 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | bart's voice was a lady | Jun 28 15:19 |
| DaemonFC | What else can you expect? He was drunk, fucking the wives, abusing the wives. | Jun 28 15:19 |
| DaemonFC | Irish Irish Irish | Jun 28 15:19 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 28 15:19 |
| matey | nelson the school bully was portrayed as dumb | Jun 28 15:20 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | DaemonFC: you can be a great-grandpa at 45 | Jun 28 15:20 |
| matey | bart's voice was a lady <- so was rocky squirrels | Jun 28 15:20 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | without even stretching it as far as possible | Jun 28 15:20 |
| matey | when youre portraying a 7 or 8 year old boy, female voice actors arent uncommon | Jun 28 15:20 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know what the hell it is with the Irish, but even two hundred years later in some other country, they're still drunk and having dumb kids and getting into brawls. | Jun 28 15:20 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | maybe 37 is as far as you gcan push it | Jun 28 15:20 |
| matey | i swear youre just throwing out random things to see if any support your point | Jun 28 15:21 |
| DaemonFC | <Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3> maybe 37 is as far as you gcan push it | Jun 28 15:21 |
| DaemonFC | You know, you never stop and think about how you're getting older, but they aren't. | Jun 28 15:21 |
| DaemonFC | Until it stops. | Jun 28 15:22 |
| DaemonFC | If I was straight, the "dirty old man" thing would just be a given. Old men ogling or messing around with 18, 20, 25 year olds is just expected. | Jun 28 15:22 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | matey: casting and voice can be done by kids | Jun 28 15:22 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | they just need to read things | Jun 28 15:22 |
| DaemonFC | But when you're gay people look down on you twice for doing the same thing. | Jun 28 15:23 |
| DaemonFC | Literally the same exact thing. | Jun 28 15:23 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | DaemonFC: it's legalised fully | Jun 28 15:23 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | it's called prostitution | Jun 28 15:23 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | and any random 80 year old get book an 18 yo afaik | Jun 28 15:23 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | and some do | Jun 28 15:23 |
| matey | barts guilt was actually voiced by patton oswalt | Jun 28 15:23 |
| DaemonFC | Oh I didn't have to pay anyone. | Jun 28 15:24 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | lots of links (news) today about abortion | Jun 28 15:24 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | I post that in -social | Jun 28 15:24 |
| DaemonFC | But when they started saying things like "I really like older men." or "Wow, love the dad bod." it started making me uneasy. I was like "Yeah, can we not go there?". | Jun 28 15:24 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | seems like ther ukraine war will escalte further | Jun 28 15:24 |
| matey | whats interesting about patton oswalt being the only person to voice bart besides nancy cartwright | Jun 28 15:24 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | not end | Jun 28 15:24 |
| matey | is that cartwright is a scientologist, and the best known role for oswalt was on king of queens opposite lea h remini (a scientologist) | Jun 28 15:25 |
| matey | i dont know if HE is one also, but that would at least explain the connection | Jun 28 15:25 |
| matey | other than that, its probably a coincidence | Jun 28 15:25 |
| DaemonFC | Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3, Facebook censors it heavily now. | Jun 28 15:25 |
| DaemonFC | It's not illegal to talk about abortion. | Jun 28 15:25 |
| DaemonFC | It's not illegal to say it's still legal some places. | Jun 28 15:25 |
| DaemonFC | But they censor it all and mass ban people for saying that. | Jun 28 15:26 |
| matey | lots of links (news) today about abortion <- not too surprising | Jun 28 15:26 |
| matey | theres probably even a couple about ukraine | Jun 28 15:26 |
| MinceR | if people had a clue, they wouldn't be using dumbFuckBook | Jun 28 15:26 |
| matey | if people had a clue, they wouldn't be using dumbFuckBook <- i agree 99% | Jun 28 15:26 |
| matey | fb isnt pointless, its just so fuck awful that they should treat it like the dumpster fire it really is | Jun 28 15:27 |
| matey | also fb helped trump get in afaik | Jun 28 15:27 |
| matey | which helped the scotus people get in | Jun 28 15:27 |
| matey | which helped overturn roe v wade | Jun 28 15:27 |
| matey | so be sure to thank mark zuckerberg for sending more women to back alley butchers | Jun 28 15:27 |
| matey | the predictable outcome of this | Jun 28 15:27 |
| MinceR | yup | Jun 28 15:28 |
| matey | maybe in a few decades someone will say "my mother died when i was 3" and they wont know they can thank mark zuckerberg for it | Jun 28 15:28 |
| MinceR | maybe in a few decades humanity will be extinct | Jun 28 15:28 |
| MinceR | here's hoping | Jun 28 15:28 |
| matey | im hoping that mark zuckerberg goes out like michael hutchence | Jun 28 15:29 |
| matey | though michael hutchence i never disliked | Jun 28 15:29 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-27.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-28.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Jun 28 15:30 |
| techrights-news | "Marsy’s Law" ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/27/victims-rights-laws-abused-again-to-hide-identities-of-officers-who-killed-someone/ | Source: Techdirt | Jun 28 15:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Victims’ Rights Laws Abused Again To Hide Identities Of Officers Who Killed Someone | Techdirt | Jun 28 15:30 | |
| matey | sadly i cant listen to "new sensation" with a straight face now. | Jun 28 15:30 |
| techrights-news | The copyright cartel ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/27/copyright-has-failed-for-game-streaming-so-alternatives-have-emerged/ | Source: Techdirt | Jun 28 15:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Copyright Has Failed For Game Streaming, So Alternatives Have Emerged | Techdirt | Jun 28 15:30 | |
| matey | though he had it worse | Jun 28 15:30 |
| DaemonFC | https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/691960628369424394/991349911700389988/Screenshot_2022-06-28_at_09-30-00_WGN_TV_Facebook.png?width=524&height=626 | Jun 28 15:30 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, ^ One of mine. | Jun 28 15:31 |
| matey | "one of my kind" still works and "devil inside" just sounds prophetic | Jun 28 15:31 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 28 15:31 |
| matey | sort of like "lithium" for kurt cobain | Jun 28 15:32 |
| XRevan86 | Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3: "seems like ther ukraine war will escalte further" <- Correct. | Jun 28 15:36 |
| DaemonFC | They're dropping in Russian prisoners and conscripts that have had 3 days training. | Jun 28 15:38 |
| DaemonFC | It takes more firearms training to get an Illinois gun permit than those Russian soldiers have been through. | Jun 28 15:38 |
| DaemonFC | Putin's not sending their best. | Jun 28 15:38 |
| sp1n | in former Yugoslavia former prisoners were released onto battlefield too | Jun 28 15:39 |
| MinceR | maybe those are their best | Jun 28 15:39 |
| sp1n | for "dirty work", had seen a documentary about it | Jun 28 15:39 |
| matey | i was always partial to "one of my kind" really | Jun 28 15:39 |
| DaemonFC | <MinceR> maybe those are their best | Jun 28 15:39 |
| matey | new sensation is too poppy (and now ironic) | Jun 28 15:39 |
| matey | devil inside is great though | Jun 28 15:39 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: No, the point is that there training is barely there for the reservists. | Jun 28 15:39 |
| DaemonFC | The fact that Putin resorts to terrorist attacks against shopping malls says everything. | Jun 28 15:39 |
| DaemonFC | He's really pissed off about the way things are going. | Jun 28 15:40 |
| MinceR | he already resorted to nuclear terrorism | Jun 28 15:40 |
| matey | lithium of course, was a song cobain allegedly wrote about how he was dating a complete psycho at the time and how killing himself would be better than living on the same planet as her | Jun 28 15:40 |
| matey | but you know how it goes with lyric interpretations | Jun 28 15:40 |
| matey | someday maybe we can compile a whole album of songs by people who dated courtney love and killed themselves after | Jun 28 15:41 |
| MinceR | his goons messed around near chornobyl, causing a spike in nuclear radiation, then set a building on fire in the zaporizhzhia nuclear plant | Jun 28 15:41 |
| matey | steve coogan survived! | Jun 28 15:41 |
| XRevan86 | I wouldn't say with confidence that the mall was the target, it's entirely possible it wasn't. But my mindset is that they know these things happen, and they're willing to take that risk. | Jun 28 15:41 |
| MinceR | they don't care | Jun 28 15:41 |
| MinceR | they're barbarians | Jun 28 15:41 |
| MinceR | and they should be stopped | Jun 28 15:42 |
| matey | /me thinks they were aiming directly for their own credibility | Jun 28 15:42 |
| XRevan86 | matey: Can't destroy was has already been destroyed months in advance. | Jun 28 15:42 |
| matey | of which they had none, but you know how sophisticated weapons are these days | Jun 28 15:42 |
| matey | Can't destroy was has already been destroyed <- maybe their weapons systems found a remaining shred and took it out | Jun 28 15:43 |
| XRevan86 | Ah, I misunderstood. | Jun 28 15:43 |
| MinceR | not the orcish weapons in actual use, though | Jun 28 15:43 |
| matey | lucky shot? | Jun 28 15:43 |
| XRevan86 | matey: The accuracy is infamous at this point actually. | Jun 28 15:43 |
| MinceR | the advanced ones they like to brag about exist maybe in a few copies they can take to exhibitions | Jun 28 15:43 |
| XRevan86 | They miss a lot. | Jun 28 15:44 |
| matey | IF i were a conspiracy theorist | Jun 28 15:44 |
| matey | but more about that in a moment... | Jun 28 15:44 |
| matey | i would say they didnt mean to hit near there, and someone else either made it look like they did to start further engagement in... | Jun 28 15:44 |
| matey | but | Jun 28 15:44 |
| matey | thats exactly the sort of thing their own government would say | Jun 28 15:44 |
| matey | and im hardly going to sympathise with that kind of crap | Jun 28 15:45 |
| matey | it DOES happen of course | Jun 28 15:45 |
| matey | like when russia themselves did that to get into ukraine in the first place | Jun 28 15:45 |
| matey | or germany with the reichstag | Jun 28 15:45 |
| matey | america with pearl harbor (very possibly) | Jun 28 15:45 |
| matey | etc etc etc | Jun 28 15:45 |
| XRevan86 | matey: It's O.K. to not have answers for some things. | Jun 28 15:45 |
| matey | oh yeah | Jun 28 15:45 |
| matey | but its also fun to guess | Jun 28 15:45 |
| sp1n | ironically, ukraine and zelensky lost my sympathy because of the allies they got here in german politics | Jun 28 15:46 |
| matey | besides, these sorts of things encourage guessing | Jun 28 15:46 |
| XRevan86 | sp1n: Hi activelow. | Jun 28 15:46 |
| sp1n | because, i do not know ukraine internal politics, i do know who those allies are, of zlensky | Jun 28 15:46 |
| sp1n | greetings XRevan86 ! | Jun 28 15:46 |
| XRevan86 | Is it a new nickname every day? | Jun 28 15:46 |
| matey | more than one per day :/ | Jun 28 15:47 |
| sp1n | whenever i restart the irc client | Jun 28 15:47 |
| MinceR | wow, ukraine and zelensky doesn't have a ruscist's sympathy? | Jun 28 15:47 |
| matey | i think hes figured out that the only people who cared about his work here have given up | Jun 28 15:47 |
| MinceR | https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/431/201/40f.png | Jun 28 15:47 |
| matey | and maybe if he gives himself 11 more chances to make his argument he will win them back | Jun 28 15:47 |
| MinceR | what's next, jews and poles not having hitler's sympathy? | Jun 28 15:47 |
| XRevan86 | sp1n: And the AfD folk don't bother you then? | Jun 28 15:47 |
| MinceR | he's a ruscist, he's on the same platform as afd | Jun 28 15:48 |
| sp1n | XRevan86: i watched various party convents recently, and the AfD one was the least annoying | Jun 28 15:48 |
| matey | i keep ignoring him | Jun 28 15:48 |
| matey | but if i see him come in under a different name i just mock him | Jun 28 15:48 |
| matey | mocking nazis isnt something i get many chances to do | Jun 28 15:48 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 28 15:48 |
| matey | i havent met many | Jun 28 15:48 |
| XRevan86 | sp1n: Looks very differently from over here. | Jun 28 15:49 |
| matey | we did have a cross burned on our yard once, but i think it was just a couple of drunk arseholes | Jun 28 15:49 |
| matey | i dont think they even know which house it was | Jun 28 15:49 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 28 15:50 |
| MinceR | what does cross burning even mean? | Jun 28 15:50 |
| matey | youd think it would be terrifying, but here are a couple of dicks who can barely manage to put a couple of 2x4s on the ground, and barely manage to set it on fire | Jun 28 15:50 |
| matey | i mean | Jun 28 15:50 |
| matey | a 5 year old white supremacist who was at least sober could have done better | Jun 28 15:50 |
| techrights-news | NVIDIA 515.57 Released with Better NvFBC Direct Capture Support, Vulkan Fixes • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166583 | Jun 28 15:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | NVIDIA 515.57 Released with Better NvFBC Direct Capture Support, Vulkan Fixes | Tux Machines | Jun 28 15:51 | |
| techrights-news | Fascists ☛ https://scheerpost.com/2022/06/27/hedges-fascists-in-our-midst/ | Source: Scheerpost | Jun 28 15:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Hedges: Fascists in Our Midst – scheerpost.com | Jun 28 15:53 | |
| matey | what does cross burning even mean? <- it means they mixed up the book of exodus with matthew mark and luke | Jun 28 15:54 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 28 15:54 |
| MinceR | https://files.explosm.net/comics/Rob/othercheek.gif ( https://explosm.net/comics/rob-othercheek#comic ) | Jun 28 15:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cyanide & Happiness (Explosm.net) | Jun 28 15:57 | |
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| techrights-news | "Czech file-sharing and hosting platform Ulož.to must block searches and downloads related to six movies" ☛ https://torrentfreak.com/supreme-court-file-sharing-platform-must-block-search-terms-to-stop-piracy-220627/ | Source: Torrent Freak | Jun 28 15:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Supreme Court: File-Sharing Platform Must Block Search Terms to Stop Piracy * TorrentFreak | Jun 28 15:58 | |
| techrights-news | "former Megaupload executives Mathias Ortmannformer Megaupload executives Mathias Ortmann" ☛ https://torrentfreak.com/megaupload-pair-convicted-the-specific-crimes-they-admitted-in-detail-220627/ | Source: Torrent Freak | Jun 28 15:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Megaupload Pair Convicted: The Specific Crimes They Admitted in Detail * TorrentFreak | Jun 28 15:58 | |
| matey | so the alt-right did their redneck version of the boston tea party | Jun 28 15:58 |
| matey | then more recently they went dressed up as the villiage people | Jun 28 15:58 |
| matey | i think next they should be the rebel fleet from star wars | Jun 28 15:58 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 28 15:59 |
| matey | esr can dress as chewbacca | Jun 28 15:59 |
| matey | if he doesnt already | Jun 28 15:59 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/28/investing/bed-bath--beyond-sales-decline/index.html | Jun 28 16:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Analysts accuse Bed Bath & Beyond of turning off AC in stores to save money as sales plummet | CNN Business | Jun 28 16:00 | |
| DaemonFC | Walmart did this already. | Jun 28 16:00 |
| DaemonFC | It's hotter than hell in there. | Jun 28 16:01 |
| DaemonFC | "Still, analysts at Bank of America who have conducted store visits report mounting concerns, including labor hours that have been meaningfully cut, scaled back utilities, reduced store operating hours and canceled remodeling projects. Rewards programs have also been scaled back and replaced. The analysts expect Bed Bath & Beyond's management will soon announce more store closures and halt openings of its Buy Buy Baby stores." | Jun 28 16:02 |
| DaemonFC | Buy Buy Baby? What a horrible store name. That's up there with the clothing store Once Upon a Child. | Jun 28 16:02 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 28 16:02 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Many companies filing bankruptcy change their name. | Jun 28 16:03 |
| DaemonFC | Bye Bye Buy Buy Baby? | Jun 28 16:03 |
| MinceR | Goo Goo Goo Goo | Jun 28 16:03 |
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| techrights-news | "At the risk of dating myself, I will tell you that grew up in the 80s — that decade of excess that was half drab and half brightly colored" ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/06/27/teardown-kc-bearifone-could-talk-circles-around-teddy-ruxpin/ | Source: Hackaday | Jun 28 16:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Teardown: KC Bearifone Could Talk Circles Around Teddy Ruxpin | Hackaday | Jun 28 16:04 | |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | DaemonFC: that's a 90s song | Jun 28 16:04 |
| techrights-news | Assange ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/06/27/the-media-celebrated-julian-assange-and-is-now-too-afraid-to-defend-him/ | Source: Counter Punch | Jun 28 16:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Media Celebrated Julian Assange and is Now Too Afraid to Defend Him - CounterPunch.org | Jun 28 16:06 | |
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| techrights-news | "Raspberry Pi CM4-powered motherboard for the original iPad." ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/06/27/hackaday-prize-2022-a-cm4-upgade-for-your-old-ipad/ | Source: Hackaday | Jun 28 16:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Hackaday Prize 2022: A CM4 Upgrade For Your Old IPad | Hackaday | Jun 28 16:09 | |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | DaemonFC: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Eo-KmOd3i7s | Jun 28 16:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | *NSYNC - Bye Bye Bye (Official Music Video) - Invidious | Jun 28 16:10 | |
| DaemonFC | Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3, I can see why there's a bad outlook on the baby stores. | Jun 28 16:10 |
| DaemonFC | They're collapsing. | Jun 28 16:10 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | Older: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Eo-KmOd3i7s | Jun 28 16:10 |
| DaemonFC | Toys R Us went under years ago, and so did their Babies R Us stores. | Jun 28 16:10 |
| MinceR | isn't that the same link? | Jun 28 16:10 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | https://yewtu.be/watch?v=zVxAj-Mis6o | Jun 28 16:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Bay City Rollers - Bye Bye Baby (1975)• TopPop - Invidious | Jun 28 16:10 | |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | https://yewtu.be/watch?v=C27NShgTQE4 | Jun 28 16:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | *NSYNC - Bye Bye Bye (Audio) - Invidious | Jun 28 16:10 | |
| DaemonFC | Few people have kids. Even fewer have money to buy them anything decent. | Jun 28 16:11 |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNWioCzV7GU | Jun 28 16:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://inv.bp.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=xNWioCzV7GU | Jun 28 16:11 | |
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| MinceR | "decent" is not something humanity is interested in producing anyway | Jun 28 16:11 |
| MinceR | "overpriced shit" is more up our species' alley | Jun 28 16:11 |
| techrights-news | Impala Platinum mine ☛ https://scheerpost.com/2022/06/27/thousands-of-workers-on-strike-at-south-africas-impala-platinum-mines/ | Source: Scheerpost | Jun 28 16:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Thousands of Workers on Strike at South Africa’s Impala Platinum Mines – scheerpost.com | Jun 28 16:11 | |
| matey | it should cost 5 cents | Jun 28 16:11 |
| DaemonFC | Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3, All you can do with your household budget is sit at home getting angrier every minute. | Jun 28 16:11 |
| DaemonFC | The Democrats have done a bang up job. | Jun 28 16:11 |
| DaemonFC | Roe v. Wade was struck down huh? | Jun 28 16:12 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | did they stand a chance? | Jun 28 16:12 |
| DaemonFC | *fundraising intensifies* | Jun 28 16:12 |
| techrights-news | Biden ☛ https://scheerpost.com/2022/06/27/infuriating-biden-rebuked-for-continued-opposition-to-supreme-court-expansion/ | Source: Scheerpost | Jun 28 16:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-‘Infuriating’: Biden Rebuked for Continued Opposition to Supreme Court Expansion – scheerpost.com | Jun 28 16:13 | |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | DaemonFC: ^^ | Jun 28 16:13 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | focing more couples to have kids | Jun 28 16:13 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | more kids, more debt | Jun 28 16:13 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | more consumers | Jun 28 16:13 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | more workers | Jun 28 16:13 |
| techrights-news | Jesusland ☛ https://truthout.org/articles/supreme-court-protects-public-school-coachs-ability-to-lead-students-in-prayer/ | Source: TruthOut | Jun 28 16:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Supreme Court Protects Public School Coach’s Ability to Lead Students in Prayer | Jun 28 16:15 | |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | ^^ | Jun 28 16:15 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | off topic here | Jun 28 16:15 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | but we went totally offtopic today | Jun 28 16:15 |
| techrights-news | "It’s been a year of anniversaries, what with the 40th birthday of both the Commodore 64 and the Sinclair ZX Spectrum." ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/06/27/atari-at-50-the-story-of-our-lives/ | Source: Hackaday | Jun 28 16:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Atari At 50: The Story Of Our Lives | Hackaday | Jun 28 16:17 | |
| techrights-news | "[mircemk] is quite a wizard when it comes to using coils of wires in projects, especially when their application is within easy-to-build metal detectors." ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/06/27/metal-detector-gets-help-from-smartphone/ | Source: Hackaday | Jun 28 16:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Metal Detector Gets Help From Smartphone | Hackaday | Jun 28 16:17 | |
| DaemonFC | https://wgntv.com/news/subway-employee-fatally-shot-over-too-much-mayo-on-sandwich-police-say/ | Jun 28 16:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wgntv.com | Subway employee fatally shot over ‘too much mayo’ on sandwich, police say | WGN-TV | Jun 28 16:18 | |
| DaemonFC | "AHHH SAID NO MAYO BIIIIIIIISCH!!!!!!" | Jun 28 16:18 |
| DaemonFC | “I want the focus to be the gun violence. And again, it was something very senseless, too much mayo on a sandwich. … Yes, it’s a sandwich, but more importantly, someone who failed to resolve a conflict by just walking away, having a conversation to just reorder a sandwich, decided to take actions into his hands and now we have families who are devastated.” | Jun 28 16:19 |
| techrights-news | Linux on the wrist ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/06/27/developing-a-custom-wearos-watch-face/ | Source: Hackaday | Jun 28 16:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Developing A Custom WearOS Watch Face | Hackaday | Jun 28 16:19 | |
| DaemonFC | No mayo, no mugshot. | Jun 28 16:19 |
| DaemonFC | Hmmm..... | Jun 28 16:19 |
| MinceR | i'm sure it was the gun's fault | Jun 28 16:21 |
| MinceR | it apparently always is | Jun 28 16:21 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | with a rifle he could gun down the whole shop | Jun 28 16:21 |
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| DaemonFC | Coulter's Law | Jun 28 16:22 |
| DaemonFC | The longer the media goes without posting a mugshot, the less likely it is that the suspect was white. | Jun 28 16:22 |
| MinceR | they're perfectly sane, they just happened to have one of these evil mind control devices around that compelled them to shoot | Jun 28 16:22 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | matey: the guns make killing faster and easier | Jun 28 16:22 |
| XRevan86 | https://nitter.net/TpyxaNews/status/1541749627283701760 | Jun 28 16:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.net | ТРУХА⚡️English (@TpyxaNews): "The moment of the explosion after the missile attack on the Amstor mall in Kremenchuk."|nitter | Jun 28 16:22 | |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | with a knifer you have to be sick in the head to stab again and again | Jun 28 16:22 |
| MinceR | Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3: and not being insane fucktards prevents people for killing other people over such things | Jun 28 16:23 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | and even if yoiu "had a bad day" | Jun 28 16:23 |
| DaemonFC | You have to be sick in the head to shoot a woman with her 5 year old there about mayo on a sandwich, Roy. | Jun 28 16:23 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | you might not find it easy to dig into the flesh of a begging person | Jun 28 16:23 |
| MinceR | i'm pretty sure i could kill with a single stab, if the knife was big and pointy and sharp enough | Jun 28 16:23 |
| DaemonFC | So he would have just stabbed her to death in front of the kid too, and you know it. | Jun 28 16:23 |
| DaemonFC | Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3, I'm glad we do have laws. Do you know how many times the law is the only reason I haven't killed someone? | Jun 28 16:24 |
| MinceR | but i guess nonfatal injuries from a single stab would be ok in Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3's mind | Jun 28 16:24 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | DaemonFC: olther people could intervene | Jun 28 16:24 |
| DaemonFC | Like what happens to me after I do this? Okay, I'm not THAT mad. | Jun 28 16:24 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | after the first stab | Jun 28 16:24 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 28 16:24 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | with a chair or table | Jun 28 16:24 |
| MinceR | but it would be impossible to intervene with a gun, strangely enough | Jun 28 16:24 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | hareder | Jun 28 16:24 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | you pull it out, shoot, done | Jun 28 16:25 |
| DaemonFC | Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3, Let's face it, there's very few people out there who haven't honestly wanted to kill someone. | Jun 28 16:25 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | or even fire several bullets | Jun 28 16:25 |
| DaemonFC | Who wouldn't be glad that someone died. | Jun 28 16:25 |
| MinceR | while you just walk around with a table in your hand, in case someone needs to be hit | Jun 28 16:25 |
| DaemonFC | And the law, and the consequences are the only reason they don't act on it. | Jun 28 16:25 |
| MinceR | and there's nothing crazy about it | Jun 28 16:25 |
| DaemonFC | Without the law, it would be more of a free for all out there than it already is. | Jun 28 16:25 |
| MinceR | which is great, otherwise we'd have to ban tables. | Jun 28 16:25 |
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| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | matey: long knives are hard to conceal | Jun 28 16:25 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 28 16:25 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | MinceR: I meant | Jun 28 16:25 |
| DaemonFC | And who is to say nobody would have gotten me first? | Jun 28 16:26 |
| DaemonFC | So I'm glad we have laws like that. | Jun 28 16:26 |
| MinceR | so are assault rifles | Jun 28 16:26 |
| MinceR | and non-assault rifles derived from assault rifle designs | Jun 28 16:26 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | pistols are small | Jun 28 16:26 |
| MinceR | small knives are smaller than pistols | Jun 28 16:26 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | and not so effective | Jun 28 16:26 |
| DaemonFC | No seriously, like I thought about shooting Gonad and then went "Nah, why bother? Cholesterol will get him.". | Jun 28 16:26 |
| DaemonFC | And it did, didn't it? | Jun 28 16:26 |
| MinceR | so it would have been OK to merely stab them in the eye then? | Jun 28 16:27 |
| DaemonFC | Cholesterol got him. I wonder what it was like sitting at home in front of the TV set, NASCAR on, friends over, eating beer and salted peanuts that he salted again. | Jun 28 16:27 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | people move their heads | Jun 28 16:27 |
| DaemonFC | Then all of a sudden his heart! | Jun 28 16:27 |
| MinceR | also, if small weapons are OK, why don't we all walk around with poisoned knives or poisoned needles in our pockets? | Jun 28 16:27 |
| DaemonFC | "Oh God, my heart! AAAAAAAGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!" | Jun 28 16:27 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | it's not like they just lkie down there, hit me in the left rib, man | Jun 28 16:27 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | aaand "go deep" | Jun 28 16:27 |
| DaemonFC | And then it goes on for 9 minutes and he dies right before the ambulance pulls up. | Jun 28 16:28 |
| MinceR | grab the head with one hand, stab with the other | Jun 28 16:28 |
| XRevan86 | https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/06/28/just-in-case-roscosmos-publishes-coordinates-and-satellite-images-of-pentagon-and-nato-hq-prior-to-nato-summit-news "Roscosmos publishes coordinates and satellite images of Pentagon and NATO HQ prior to NATO summit" | Jun 28 16:28 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | matey: some people did that | Jun 28 16:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-novayagazeta.eu | Новая газета. Европа | Jun 28 16:28 | |
| DaemonFC | Worse than anything I could have done to him, and I had nothing to do with it, and I was glad to hear about it though. | Jun 28 16:28 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | needle in a night club | Jun 28 16:28 |
| XRevan86 | Is the right word here "pathetic"? | Jun 28 16:28 |
| MinceR | so, where's the outrage and call to ban needles? | Jun 28 16:28 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I sent his widow a letter, btw. | Jun 28 16:28 |
| DaemonFC | I said, "You know, he was laughing about leading the repo man to your car after you got a divorce the first time. I'll bet you didn't know that. Well, you know that now." | Jun 28 16:29 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | aarsenic for the needle is hard to get | Jun 28 16:29 |
| MinceR | there are plenty of workable poisons for such use | Jun 28 16:29 |
| MinceR | does arsenic even act quickly enough? | Jun 28 16:29 |
| DaemonFC | Eh, nap time. Hopefully I can get some sleep in. | Jun 28 16:29 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | OK, so go make darks and shoot arrows | Jun 28 16:29 |
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| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | and tell me that's as dangerous as a riflke | Jun 28 16:30 |
| MinceR | everything is dangerous if it magically compels its owner to attack people for no good reason | Jun 28 16:30 |
| MinceR | even if the compulsion is to attack _with_ the mind control device | Jun 28 16:31 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | availability of more lethal weapons is still redducedd | Jun 28 16:36 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | because people looking can kill get less done this way | Jun 28 16:37 |
| MinceR | is it better to cripple people, then? | Jun 28 16:37 |
| MinceR | also, it depends on which people | Jun 28 16:37 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | *looking to kil | Jun 28 16:37 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | all people | Jun 28 16:37 |
| MinceR | people who manage to get into the police force can actually kill more people this way | Jun 28 16:37 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | even cops | Jun 28 16:37 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | lessen their powers | Jun 28 16:37 |
| MinceR | all anti-gun people are trying to accomplish is disarm the population while leaving the most dangerous people just as armed as before | Jun 28 16:38 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | they aren not antigun absolutists | Jun 28 16:40 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | if they want to skill arm the rogues | Jun 28 16:40 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | cops here are barely armed | Jun 28 16:41 |
| MinceR | that sentence makes even less sense than the usual anti-gun dumbassery | Jun 28 16:41 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | except in spoecial scenarios | Jun 28 16:41 |
| matey | all anti-gun people are trying to accomplish is disarm the population while leaving the most dangerous people just as armed as before <- and-- most are too clueless to realise it | Jun 28 16:41 |
| MinceR | then the "special scenario" cops will kill lots of people | Jun 28 16:41 |
| matey | <Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3> they aren not antigun absolutist <- if thats your argument, racist cops have more important things to do than kill black people all day... | Jun 28 16:41 |
| MinceR | cops are already drunk with power everywhere | Jun 28 16:41 |
| matey | but they make time | Jun 28 16:42 |
| sp1n | it is impossible to disarm USA, whatever gun laws are passed | Jun 28 16:42 |
| sp1n | those laws, are irelevant and/or ineffective | Jun 28 16:42 |
| MinceR | good | Jun 28 16:42 |
| MinceR | that's the one thing the USA has going for itself | Jun 28 16:42 |
| sp1n | those anti-gun activists, are delusional, because laws are only relevant if these can be enforced | Jun 28 16:43 |
| matey | its seen all this shit before? | Jun 28 16:43 |
| sp1n | in case of USA, ruling gun possession ilegal would criminalize hundreds of millions of muricans | Jun 28 16:44 |
| sp1n | good luck with that, new law passed, you are all criminals now | Jun 28 16:44 |
| matey | <Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3> except in spoecial scenarios <- roy on fire safety: "if theres a fire, then we can start distributing extenguishers" | Jun 28 16:45 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | US is not a success sstory re guns ownership | Jun 28 16:48 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | it's a cautionary tale | Jun 28 16:48 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | where people feel compelleed to buy firearms to keep up with the rest | Jun 28 16:48 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | and then millions die in a few decades from firearms | Jun 28 16:49 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | who would not be dead in their absence | Jun 28 16:49 |
| matey | where people feel compelleed to buy firearms to keep up with the rest <- citation needed | Jun 28 16:49 |
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| matey | more people get killed by knives than rifles | Jun 28 16:54 |
| matey | solution: confiscate peoples knives and give them rifles instead | Jun 28 16:54 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | look up | Jun 28 16:54 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | uk deaths by knives | Jun 28 16:54 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | compare to us deaths by firearms | Jun 28 16:54 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | weight by population size | Jun 28 16:54 |
| matey | what does the uk have to do with this | Jun 28 16:55 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | low ownership of firefox | Jun 28 16:55 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | about 2% | Jun 28 16:55 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | or 3% | Jun 28 16:55 |
| matey | are you suggesting that guns dont only shoot people, they also force them to stab each other? | Jun 28 16:55 |
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| MinceR | 28 174837 < Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3> it's a cautionary tale | Jun 28 17:04 |
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| MinceR | yeah, a cautionary tale for states | Jun 28 17:04 |
| techrights-news | Videos and Shows: Easy OS 4.1 and Going Linux • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166586 | Jun 28 17:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Videos and Shows: Easy OS 4.1 and Going Linux | Tux Machines | Jun 28 17:04 | |
| MinceR | about leaving a too long leash for the slaves | Jun 28 17:04 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | matey: they have fascists in charge | Jun 28 17:04 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | and 400 million guns did not prevent it | Jun 28 17:04 |
| MinceR | who doesn't? | Jun 28 17:04 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | they have had their government buildings attacked by fascists too | Jun 28 17:04 |
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| XRevan86 | s/18/20/ now | Jun 28 17:05 |
| matey | /me doenst know why roy conflates stats on gun suicides with gun homicides | Jun 28 17:07 |
| matey | most gun deaths are suicides and it changes the rhetoric about gun death rates substantially | Jun 28 17:08 |
| matey | but it lets you say "millions in just a few decades" | Jun 28 17:08 |
| matey | its 700,000 in 20 years if you include suicides | Jun 28 17:08 |
| matey | but again, the suicides are more than half of the deaths | Jun 28 17:09 |
| matey | maybe around 2/3 | Jun 28 17:09 |
| matey | so once again, a little full of shit. | Jun 28 17:09 |
| matey | at least a bit | Jun 28 17:09 |
| matey | matey: they have fascists in charge <- and 400 million guns did not prevent it <- thats the wrong metric | Jun 28 17:10 |
| matey | the number of guns means nothing | Jun 28 17:10 |
| matey | its the number of people who are armed that would prevent it | Jun 28 17:11 |
| matey | and even than its only one factor | Jun 28 17:11 |
| matey | there are other requirements-- such as an educated public | Jun 28 17:11 |
| matey | we dont have that either | Jun 28 17:11 |
| matey | educated public + armed populace (sorry, not there yet) = less fascism | Jun 28 17:12 |
| matey | there may be more than one gun per person | Jun 28 17:12 |
| matey | but most people are not armed, so that count counts for nothing | Jun 28 17:12 |
| matey | apparently some people have ridiculous amounts of weapons | Jun 28 17:12 |
| matey | but that isnt what mincer is proposing. | Jun 28 17:13 |
| matey | it isnt an "armed populace" if a few people have LOADS of weapons | Jun 28 17:13 |
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| matey | weapons being concentrated in the hands of a few causes similar problems as money being distributed that way | Jun 28 17:14 |
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| matey | why would that prevent fascism? of course it wouldnt | Jun 28 17:14 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.cnbc.com/2022/06/28/new-car-quality-declined-11percent-blame-supply-chain-problems-jd-power.html | Jun 28 17:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnbc.com | New car quality declined 11%, blame supply chain problems: J.D. Power | Jun 28 17:14 | |
| DaemonFC | :/ | Jun 28 17:14 |
| matey | again, its weird hearing such an argument from a glorified statistician | Jun 28 17:14 |
| DaemonFC | It says Buick quality has sharply declined. Probably nothing to do with the recession. | Jun 28 17:15 |
| DaemonFC | None of these new cars work right. | Jun 28 17:15 |
| matey | but who needs a phd in glorified statistics when theyre just going to cherry pick numbers and not look at what they actually mean? | Jun 28 17:15 |
| DaemonFC | They do what the manufacturer wants. They last about 4 or 5 years before they turn into a junker and cost a ridiculous amount of money. | Jun 28 17:16 |
| matey | en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearm_death_rates_in_the_United_States_by_state | Jun 28 17:16 |
| matey | In 2020, over 45,000 people in the United States (13.6 per 100,000 people) died by firearms. | Jun 28 17:16 |
| MinceR | > 400 million guns did not prevent it | Jun 28 17:16 |
| DaemonFC | I wonder if dad and Jan really got rid of their Buick SUV because the repairs got away from them or it had a weird failure that nobody could figure out. | Jun 28 17:16 |
| matey | More than half of these people died by suicide. | Jun 28 17:16 |
| MinceR | the USA doesn't even allow citizens to keep assault rifles, or anything else capable of full automatic fire | Jun 28 17:16 |
| matey | not that you probably want full automatic fire | Jun 28 17:17 |
| DaemonFC | Yes, and the suicide rate is the same regardless of the gun laws. | Jun 28 17:17 |
| MinceR | let alone rocket launchers, AFV-s or nuclear weapons | Jun 28 17:17 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | DaemonFC: like cereal boxees getting smaller | Jun 28 17:17 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | for same price | Jun 28 17:17 |
| DaemonFC | If you take away the guns, they walk in front of trains. | Jun 28 17:17 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | not just cereal | Jun 28 17:17 |
| matey | in nearly any combat situation you can imagine, small bursts are more useful | Jun 28 17:17 |
| MinceR | the constitutional purpose is resisting tyranny, but the people aren't allowed to be armed sufficiently to resist tyranny | Jun 28 17:17 |
| matey | then again "assault rifle" is mostly a "loaded" term anyway | Jun 28 17:17 |
| DaemonFC | Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3, I've caught them doing this with cat food too. | Jun 28 17:17 |
| DaemonFC | Charging $16 for a 6 pound bag when a 22 pound bag used to cost $25. Then throwing rebates at you so you won't scream. | Jun 28 17:18 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | 1kg became 750k | Jun 28 17:18 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | than 375 | Jun 28 17:18 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | maybe soon 250gram | Jun 28 17:18 |
| matey | youre allergic to context | Jun 28 17:19 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | *then | Jun 28 17:19 |
| matey | what happens, do you break out in hives? do you have to call medics? | Jun 28 17:19 |
| MinceR | 28 181755 < matey> then again "assault rifle" is mostly a "loaded" term anyway | Jun 28 17:20 |
| MinceR | well, it was named after the Sturmgewehr 44 | Jun 28 17:20 |
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| DaemonFC | Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3, I've gotten into the habit of compulsively buying more bags of cat food every time there's a big rebate. | Jun 28 17:21 |
| DaemonFC | Just because if they stop, the stuff costs a fortune. | Jun 28 17:21 |
| MinceR | another issue with resisting tyranny is that USians have managed to turn guns into a partisan issue, so the people who side more with the "democrats" are likely to disarm themselves | Jun 28 17:22 |
| MinceR | and then nobody protects them or their interests anymore | Jun 28 17:22 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, The number one state for legal gun sales in the past two years has been Illinois. | Jun 28 17:22 |
| matey | USians have managed to turn guns into a partisan issue, so the people who side more with the "democrats" <- well | Jun 28 17:23 |
| DaemonFC | The state police are swamped with FOID card backlogs because everyone wants a gun now after years of saying it wasn't necessary. | Jun 28 17:23 |
| matey | reps and dems really are the same party | Jun 28 17:23 |
| matey | and they work together to take away everyones rights | Jun 28 17:23 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know why. I mean, it's not like there's mobs of looters and rapists and cajackers and anti-abortion protesters that all have guns. | Jun 28 17:23 |
| MinceR | many of the followers don't see it that way | Jun 28 17:23 |
| DaemonFC | Why would you need one? :) | Jun 28 17:23 |
| matey | while making it look like a real fight between the two | Jun 28 17:23 |
| matey | many of the followers don't see it that way <- if youre going to fleece the sheep | Jun 28 17:23 |
| matey | first you have to fleece the sheep | Jun 28 17:24 |
| matey | when people are being scammed, they dont go | Jun 28 17:24 |
| matey | "i know im being scammed, but this is a LOT OF MONEY im going to make!" | Jun 28 17:24 |
| matey | "i know im being scammed, but it really is a nice car" | Jun 28 17:25 |
| matey | "i know im being scammed, but these issues really DO matter" | Jun 28 17:25 |
| DaemonFC | " | Jun 28 17:25 |
| DaemonFC | Your submission successfully completed the background review and has been sent to await printing. | Jun 28 17:25 |
| DaemonFC | " | Jun 28 17:25 |
| matey | they have to stop being scammed first | Jun 28 17:25 |
| DaemonFC | The status of my FOID card. | Jun 28 17:25 |
| DaemonFC | Apparently I owed them $5 that they never told me about. | Jun 28 17:25 |
| matey | the other stuff is just bait on a hook | Jun 28 17:25 |
| DaemonFC | So I have an active FOID card with the right address on it, and they are about to send me another one. | Jun 28 17:26 |
| matey | its not that the issues arent real-- its that the parties arent real | Jun 28 17:26 |
| DaemonFC | :/ | Jun 28 17:26 |
| DaemonFC | It probably costs them more than $5 to send me another card. So why don't they either not charge me the $5 or not send a duplicate card? | Jun 28 17:26 |
| DaemonFC | Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3, ^ | Jun 28 17:26 |
| DaemonFC | I checked to make sure it wasn't revoked! | Jun 28 17:26 |
| matey | the american election system is a lot like the game shows on doctor who (devid tennant years) where the contestants who failed appeared to be vapourised | Jun 28 17:27 |
| DaemonFC | If it gets revoked, you're supposed to get a letter in the mail, and then you have 48 hours to surrender the cards and your guns or it's a Class A Misdemeanor. | Jun 28 17:27 |
| matey | but actually just got transmatted into yet another gameshow | Jun 28 17:27 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 During my appeal, I really laid into the State Police. | Jun 28 17:28 |
| matey | they keep people busy, and the right takes away peoples dignity and safety while the left takes away peoples liberty | Jun 28 17:28 |
| matey | and they really are the same party working for the same people | Jun 28 17:28 |
| matey | its a show | Jun 28 17:28 |
| DaemonFC | I accused them of being so incompetent that they let my FOID card remain active 7 months into my probation sentence. | Jun 28 17:28 |
| matey | except of course, people do actually die | Jun 28 17:29 |
| matey | thats because even if the parties arent real, life still is | Jun 28 17:29 |
| DaemonFC | And said that if I had any malicious intentions, that was more than an ample amount of time to act on them, underlying the stupidity of the entire FOID card system. | Jun 28 17:29 |
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| matey | the right also takes away liberty and the left also takes away dignity | Jun 28 17:30 |
| matey | but since its all about image, one appears to do more of this or that than the other | Jun 28 17:30 |
| matey | i wish people would run realistic simulations on the past 40 years of voting | Jun 28 17:31 |
| matey | to see what might have happened if people had voted differently | Jun 28 17:31 |
| MinceR | 28 182839 < matey> they keep people busy, and the right takes away peoples dignity and safety while the left takes away peoples liberty | Jun 28 17:31 |
| matey | the caveat is i have no fucking idea how you would make that realistic | Jun 28 17:31 |
| MinceR | they both take away people's liberty, dignity and safety | Jun 28 17:32 |
| matey | what i do know is that no matter how people vote, they get fucked either way | Jun 28 17:32 |
| matey | <MinceR> they both take away people's liberty, dignity and safety <- to be fair, i did just say that | Jun 28 17:32 |
| matey | what i do know is that no matter how people vote, they get fucked either way | Jun 28 17:32 |
| matey | so whatever the solution is | Jun 28 17:32 |
| matey | voting alone is not going to fix it | Jun 28 17:33 |
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| MinceR | the solution is to kill the sociopaths in charge | Jun 28 17:33 |
| MinceR | and if others try to step up, kill them too | Jun 28 17:33 |
| MinceR | repeat until we run out of sociopaths | Jun 28 17:33 |
| matey | i used to say "impeach everyone" | Jun 28 17:33 |
| matey | similar concept | Jun 28 17:33 |
| matey | just keep impeaching people until we run out of shitty ones | Jun 28 17:34 |
| matey | you can imagine my disappointment when i found out how limited the scope of impeachment is (on top of the fact that it never really happens) | Jun 28 17:34 |
| matey | (at least not in the way people want it to) | Jun 28 17:34 |
| matey | i thought you could impeach any kind of politician | Jun 28 17:34 |
| matey | :( | Jun 28 17:34 |
| matey | but this was like 20 years ago | Jun 28 17:35 |
| *psydroid2 likes MinceR's suggested measures | Jun 28 17:35 | |
| matey | the funny thing about mincers suggestion is this | Jun 28 17:36 |
| matey | unless people get an even better idea | Jun 28 17:36 |
| matey | his suggestion is more or less bound to happen eventually | Jun 28 17:36 |
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| DaemonFC | Sometimes I wonder if some people who are this paranoid about lawful gun ownership live on the same planet and witness the same things I do. | Jun 28 17:37 |
| DaemonFC | Lawful gun owners are very very little of the "gun crime" problem. | Jun 28 17:38 |
| DaemonFC | Like 98% of the gun crime in Illinois involves people who never had a FOID card to begin with and guns that were never in the FOID card system. | Jun 28 17:38 |
| DaemonFC | Even without FOID cards, they'd still be Brady disqualified due to "felon in possession of a handgun" which is a federal offense. | Jun 28 17:39 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, We have to have a federalized state system here. Once everyone lives under 5 levels of government, it will be impossible for them to overlook any possible way of fucking you, but with the added bonus being that when you go a few miles in any direction, all of the laws change anyway. | Jun 28 17:40 |
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| DaemonFC | The county board literally does nothing important. | Jun 28 17:41 |
| DaemonFC | Like, the cities are the ones providing services. | Jun 28 17:41 |
| DaemonFC | Or if you are going to have county governments with bloated budgets, why not shut down Townships? | Jun 28 17:42 |
| DaemonFC | We need an entire level of government underneath the city and county and state, so that that government can mow the lawn at the cemetery and decide whether poor people deserve insulin. | Jun 28 17:43 |
| MinceR | (cat) https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/weekend-random-randomness-5-22-22-25.jpg | Jun 28 17:43 |
| DaemonFC | Indiana gives like, this bizarre and random assortment of stuff to the Township Trustees. | Jun 28 17:43 |
| DaemonFC | Like, one of those things is poor relief, what there is of it. | Jun 28 17:43 |
| DaemonFC | The law says that one of those tasks is providing insulin for diabetics, except that the Trustee can refuse you insulin if you've ever committed a felony. | Jun 28 17:44 |
| DaemonFC | https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/06/28/innovation-solves-problems-says-wealth-manager-who-lost-over-half-her-clients-assets-in-half-a-year/ | Jun 28 17:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | “Innovation solves problems” says Wealth Manager who lost over half her clients’ assets in half a year. – BaronHK's Rants | Jun 28 17:54 | |
| DaemonFC | Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3, ^ | Jun 28 17:54 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.cnbc.com/2022/06/28/linkedins-hoffman-spending-to-elect-more-mainstream-democrats-to-congress.html | Jun 28 17:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnbc.com | LinkedIn co-founder Hoffman hopes to get more Democrats elected to Congress this fall by beating some in the primaries | Jun 28 17:58 | |
| DaemonFC | Mainstream Democrats PAC. LOL | Jun 28 17:59 |
| DaemonFC | You mean the ones that stood there and jerked each other off while Roe died. | Jun 28 17:59 |
| DaemonFC | "Hoffman hosted a virtual fundraiser for the Democratic National Committee last year, with tickets going for up to $875,000. Biden thanked Hoffman for his “generous support” during the event, according to a White House transcript of the president’s remarks." | Jun 28 18:00 |
| DaemonFC | Nancy Pelosi needs me. She neeeeeeeeds my $3. | Jun 28 18:00 |
| DaemonFC | *Fundraising intensifies!* | Jun 28 18:01 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/LateStageCapitalism/comments/vm7tjz/my_local_walgreens_started_locking_up/ | Jun 28 18:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | My local Walgreens started locking up toothpaste…fucking toothpaste : LateStageCapitalism | Jun 28 18:06 | |
| DaemonFC | $8 for a single tube of toothpaste. | Jun 28 18:06 |
| DaemonFC | They haven't ever actually, you know, proven, that it works better than the 88 cent stuff. | Jun 28 18:06 |
| DaemonFC | But they have ridiculous marketing budgets and they pay dentists to recommend it too by implying your teeth will all fall out if you don't. | Jun 28 18:07 |
| DaemonFC | Shit, I'd recommend something too if I had them sticking those kinds of checks in my bank account. The Mercedes isn't going to pay for itself, you know. | Jun 28 18:09 |
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| DaemonFC | It's actually not _as_ bad as the pharmaceutical companies buying off your doctor. At least your dentist can't follow you to the grocery store and force you to buy the $8 5 ounce Crest instead of the $1 8.4 ounce Aim. | Jun 28 18:10 |
| sp1n | succeeded backporting a quake2 engine to c-only system profile... somehow, got video out of the demo | Jun 28 18:11 |
| DaemonFC | Doctors can prescribe new drugs that have no generic, and that's exactly what the drug company representatives do. | Jun 28 18:11 |
| DaemonFC | If you don't play ball, they stop taking you to dinner and paying your tuition to stay up to date on doctor stuff. | Jun 28 18:11 |
| sp1n | however, there is too much backporting work remaining for sound support, at least it is possible | Jun 28 18:11 |
| sp1n | got more important things to do than "gaming on linux"; nonetheless it is possible without any c++ | Jun 28 18:12 |
| sp1n | and as usual, the system integration isn't fun, too much clutter all over the place within the source tree | Jun 28 18:14 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/LateStageCapitalism/comments/vmqe46/companies_providing_access_to_legal_abortions/ | Jun 28 18:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Companies providing access to legal abortions isn’t for your benefit, it’s for the company’s benefit. : LateStageCapitalism | Jun 28 18:14 | |
| sp1n | leave alone, if anytime i was interested in hacking and programming of a software-rasterizer and 3d game engine, it simply isn't fun with the choas | Jun 28 18:15 |
| sp1n | imagining, how much time and effort were invested, by valve/steam alone | Jun 28 18:22 |
| sp1n | when instead, the old sdl1 software is still available, which requires none of the corporate bloat of opengl/c++/mesa/libdrm/llvm/clang | Jun 28 18:23 |
| sp1n | that's probably close to 100million lines of code, simply wiped, and the original 3d game engine is still there without those | Jun 28 18:23 |
| DaemonFC | Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3, "For Tesla, which ranked 7th from the bottom this year, with the same initial quality score as Mitsubishi, panel alignment and poor paint quality were more common problems than customer issues with the company’s mobile app or infotainment." | Jun 28 18:24 |
| DaemonFC | -CNBC | Jun 28 18:24 |
| DaemonFC | And this is based just on 90 days of ownership! | Jun 28 18:24 |
| DaemonFC | That's when JD Power interviews the owner. | Jun 28 18:24 |
| DaemonFC | This isn't like the paint started flaking after the car was 15 years old. | Jun 28 18:24 |
| MinceR | which Mitsubishi | Jun 28 18:27 |
| MinceR | the one that was run by the japanese or the one the french put on renaults and dacias? | Jun 28 18:27 |
| MinceR | there's a bit of a difference | Jun 28 18:27 |
| MinceR | https://files.explosm.net/comics/Rob/dcw_dog3.png ( https://explosm.net/comics/rob-dcw-dog#comic ) | Jun 28 18:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cyanide & Happiness (Explosm.net) | Jun 28 18:29 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-27.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-28.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Jun 28 18:30 |
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| SomeH4x0r | hi | Jun 28 18:42 |
| matey | hi | Jun 28 18:42 |
| MinceR | arrrgh, matey | Jun 28 18:48 |
| matey | fair point | Jun 28 18:49 |
| matey | /me still prefers ninjas | Jun 28 18:49 |
| psydroid2 | https://www.androidauthority.com/arm-cortex-x3-cortex-a715-3178608/ | Jun 28 18:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidauthority.com | Arm Cortex-X3 and Cortex-A715: Next-gen CPUs redefined | Jun 28 18:58 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▆▃▅▆▆▅▅▆▄▃▅▆▆▆▄▆▆▆▄▆▅▅▅▆▅▅▅▅▅▆▁ avg(k/sec) 43.21 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▁▁▂▂▁▂▁▂▁▂▁▂▁▂▁▁▂▁▁▁▁▂▁▁▁▂▁▂▁▂▂▁▂▁▂▂▁▂▂▁ avg(k/sec) 5.86▕ swarm size (avg): 0 ⟲ | Jun 28 18:59 |
| matey | what would be cool is if people started collecting sbcs like trading cards | Jun 28 18:59 |
| matey | theyre cheaper and more rare | Jun 28 19:00 |
| matey | making them fun (but less profitable | Jun 28 19:00 |
| matey | ) to collect | Jun 28 19:00 |
| matey | and then instead of going to a shop you could just go to a collector | Jun 28 19:00 |
| matey | and they could charge you twice as much for whatever model you wanted-- but heres the fun part | Jun 28 19:01 |
| matey | it would still be cheaper than getting x86 | Jun 28 19:01 |
| psydroid2 | and cost much less in terms of electricity | Jun 28 19:02 |
| psydroid2 | while x86 processors cost more and more to run | Jun 28 19:02 |
| psydroid2 | they can't compete in terms of design so clock speeds are raised into the stratosphere | Jun 28 19:03 |
| sp1n | tailored for corporate consumerist stupidity | Jun 28 19:04 |
| sp1n | made in USA | Jun 28 19:04 |
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| matey | <psydroid2> they can't compete in terms of design so clock speeds are raised into the stratosphere <- that worked great for circuit city | Jun 28 19:15 |
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| techrights-news | openSUSE Leap 15.4 release retrospective • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166587 openSUSE Leap 15.4 release retrospective • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166587 | Jun 28 19:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | openSUSE Leap 15.4 release retrospective | Tux Machines | Jun 28 19:24 | |
| techrights-news | Firefox 102.0 • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166588 | Jun 28 19:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Firefox 102.0 | Tux Machines | Jun 28 19:25 | |
| techrights-news | Google #Android Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166589 | Jun 28 19:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 28 19:25 | |
| techrights-news | A quick rebuttal to abysmal arguments in favour of software patents, courtesy of people who neither code nor disclose a very obvious conflict of interest (they profit from promotion of such illegal patents, helped by crooked EPO presidencies that violate the European Patent Convention with impunity) http://techrights.org/2022/06/28/getting-it-all-wrong-about-software-patents/ | Jun 28 19:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bastian Best is Still Wrong and Dishonest About Software Patents | Techrights | Jun 28 19:25 | |
| DaemonFC | https://wgntv.com/news/illinois-election-day-republicans-to-pick-nominee-to-face-gov-pritzker/ | Jun 28 19:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wgntv.com | Illinois Election Day: Republicans to pick nominee to face Gov. Pritzker | WGN-TV | Jun 28 19:26 | |
| DaemonFC | What's interesting is that rich people will sink a hundred million dollars into a failed political campaign, but they won't pay their taxes. | Jun 28 19:26 |
| techrights-news | KDE Plasma 5.25.2, Bugfix Release for June http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166581#comment-34161 | Jun 28 19:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Plasma 5.25.2 Released to Improve Flatpak Support, Present Windows Effect | Tux Machines | Jun 28 19:27 | |
| techrights-news | How to Create Beautiful Beamer Slides with Emacs - Make Tech Easier ⚓ https://www.maketecheasier.com/create-beautiful-beamer-slides-with-emacs/ ䷉ Source: maketecheasier | Jun 28 19:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | How to Create Beautiful Beamer Slides with Emacs - Make Tech Easier | Jun 28 19:32 | |
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| techrights-news | WTF, CNX????? Microsoft SPAM again https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/06/28/how-to-repair-a-corrupted-excel-file-in-microsoft-office-2007-and-2010/ see http://techrights.org/2022/02/17/cnxsoftware-partly-compromised/ | Jun 28 19:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | How to repair a corrupted excel file in Microsoft Office 2007 and 2010 (Sponsored) - CNX Software | Jun 28 19:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The C in CNX Software is Not “Community” | Techrights | Jun 28 19:36 | |
| techrights-news | Spamnil posting spam for VS Code, Microsoft Proprietary Spyware | Jun 28 19:39 |
| schestowitz | sexpc gemini://idiomdrottning.org/sexpc "Unix filter that reads one sexp from stdin and outputs the same expression in C syntax" | Jun 28 19:43 |
| techrights-news | Demonstration on Wednesday 29 June at 12.30 in front of the Isar building http://techrights.org/2022/06/28/suepo-munich-protest-flyer/ | Jun 28 19:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | “Mobility Package” as Bribes in European Patent Office | Techrights | Jun 28 19:44 | |
| techrights-news | sched/fair: Introduce SIS_UTIL to search idle CPU based on sum of util_avg https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/tip/tip.git/commit/?h=sched/core&id=70fb5ccf2ebb09a0c8ebba775041567812d45f86 | Jun 28 19:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.kernel.org | kernel/git/tip/tip.git - Unnamed repository; edit this file 'description' to name the repository. | Jun 28 19:45 | |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166590 | Jun 28 19:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 28 19:45 | |
| techrights-news | Middleware enterprise functionality comes to JavaScript, thanks to Vercel | VentureBeat ⚓ https://venturebeat.com/2022/06/28/middleware-enterprise-functionality-comes-to-javascript-thanks-to-vercel/ ䷉ Source: venturebeat | Jun 28 19:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Middleware enterprise functionality comes to JavaScript, thanks to Vercel | VentureBeat | Jun 28 19:49 | |
| techrights-news | "We are happy to announce the release of Qt Creator 8 Beta2!" https://www.qt.io/blog/qt-creator-8-beta2-released | Jun 28 19:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.qt.io | Qt Creator 8 Beta2 released | Jun 28 19:50 | |
| techrights-news | Perl Weekly Challenge 171: Abundant Numbers and First-Class Functions http://blogs.perl.org/users/laurent_r/2022/06/perl-weekly-challenge-171-abundant-numbers-and-first-class-functions.html | Jun 28 19:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Perl Weekly Challenge 171: Abundant Numbers and First-Class Functions | laurent_r [blogs.perl.org] | Jun 28 19:51 | |
| techrights-news | It Started with Muybridge (1964) – The Public Domain Review ⚓ https://publicdomainreview.org/collection/it-started-with-muybridge/ ䷉ Source: publicdomainreview | Jun 28 19:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-publicdomainreview.org | *It Started with Muybridge* (1964) – The Public Domain Review | Jun 28 19:54 | |
| techrights-news | "The game-maker made a change to its Privacy Policy and Terms of Service in April 2021. It allows Riot Games to “record and evaluate in-game voice communications when a report for that type of behavior is submitted.”" https://www.maketecheasier.com/riot-games-listening-to-valorant-chats/ | Jun 28 19:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | Valorant Players: Riot Games Will Be Listening to Your Chats - Make Tech Easier | Jun 28 19:55 | |
| sp1n | ~80% of global maize harvest isn't used for nutrition, instead "bio" fuels | Jun 28 19:55 |
| techrights-news | Virtual private network providers now have until September 25 to comply with new guidelines https://www.businessinsider.in/tech/news/virtual-private-network-providers-now-have-until-september-25-to-comply-with-new-guidelines/articleshow/92515531.cms | Jun 28 19:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.businessinsider.in | Virtual private network providers now have until September 25 to comply with new guidelines | Business Insider India | Jun 28 19:55 | |
| sp1n | either way, fertile soil and forests erode and cut down | Jun 28 19:55 |
| techrights-news | "When Ubuntu came on the scene in 2004, it made desktop Linux viable to many with its ease of use and friendly layout. Instead of constantly improving this and becoming the “King of All Distributions” it took a very different path. While I still use Ubuntu server with some caveats, I will NOT use Ubuntu Desktop." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=pMfqCzbSmQU | Jun 28 19:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Ubuntu's Decline - Invidious | Jun 28 19:56 | |
| AdmFubar | https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/27/dangerous-ruling-says-if-someone-goes-onto-your-openly-shared-google-drive-you-can-sue-them-for-unauthorized-access/ | Jun 28 19:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Dangerous Ruling Says If Someone Goes Onto Your Openly Shared Google Drive, You Can Sue Them For Unauthorized Access | Techdirt | Jun 28 19:57 | |
| techrights-news | Tuesday's FESCo Meeting (2022-06-28) is cancelled. Many announcements https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/AEF4US5TEZK66YLG7UGGIGWW2HYP732E/ | Jun 28 19:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.fedoraproject.org | Tuesday's FESCo Meeting (2022-06-28) is cancelled. Many announcements - devel - Fedora Mailing-Lists | Jun 28 19:58 | |
| techrights-news | GCC 10.4 Released • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166591 | Jun 28 19:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GCC 10.4 Released | Tux Machines | Jun 28 19:58 | |
| techrights-news | Microsoft the worst https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ncas/current-activity/2022/06/28/2022-cwe-top-25-most-dangerous-software-weaknesses | Jun 28 20:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | 2022 CWE Top 25 Most Dangerous Software Weaknesses | CISA | Jun 28 20:00 | |
| techrights-news | "Thought experiment story of someone of someone who lost everything in a house fire, and now can’t log into anything" https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/06/__trashed-2.html | Jun 28 20:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-When Security Locks You Out of Everything - Schneier on Security | Jun 28 20:00 | |
| techrights-news | MNT Pocket Reform Is A Fully Customizable, Mini Linux Laptop With A Seriously Cool Design http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166575#comment-34162 | Jun 28 20:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | MNT Pocket Reform 7-inch modular mini laptop takes a range of Arm (and FPGA) modules | Tux Machines | Jun 28 20:04 | |
| techrights-news | Manufacturing code? Probably plagiarism. https://www.techgenyz.com/2022/06/28/intel-starts-manufacturing-habana-labs-gaudi2-linux-driver-code/ | Jun 28 20:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intel starts manufacturing Habana Labs Gaudi2 Linux driver code | TechGenyz | Jun 28 20:05 | |
| techrights-news | Delaying the inevitable: Implementation of CERT-In’s Cybersecurity Directions gets a piecemeal extension ⚓ https://internetfreedom.in/delaying-the-inevitable-implementation-of-cert-ins-cybersecurity-directions-gets-a-piecemeal-extension/ ䷉ Source: internetfreedom | Jun 28 20:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-internetfreedom.in | Delaying the inevitable: Implementation of CERT-In’s Cybersecurity Directions gets a piecemeal extension | Jun 28 20:07 | |
| techrights-news | LOL. MICROSOFT WINDOWS. CMC Electronics EFB breakout vulnerability | Pen Test Partners ⚓ https://www.pentestpartners.com/security-blog/efb-breakout-vulnerability/ ䷉ Source: pentestpartners | Jun 28 20:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pentestpartners.com | CMC Electronics EFB breakout vulnerability | Pen Test Partners | Jun 28 20:08 | |
| techrights-news | Steven Vaughan-Nichols = LF-funded LF stenographer. SJVM, you disappointing sellout. | Jun 28 20:09 |
| techrights-news | EasyOS Dunfell-series version 4.2.2 released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166470#comment-34163 | Jun 28 20:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | EasyOS Dunfell-series 4.2 | Tux Machines | Jun 28 20:12 | |
| sp1n | in usa more than 80% of planted maize is genetically engineered crop | Jun 28 20:12 |
| techrights-news | David Cantrell: rpminspect-1.10 released https://www.burdell.org/posts/2022/Jun/27/rpminspect-110-released/ | Jun 28 20:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.burdell.org | rpminspect-1.10 released | Jun 28 20:12 | |
| techrights-news | Scanning container image vulnerabilities with Clair ⚓ https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/scanning-container-image-vulnerabilities-clair ䷉ Source: Red Hat | ICBM | GNU | Linux | Jun 28 20:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Scanning container image vulnerabilities with Clair | Jun 28 20:13 | |
| sp1n | "bio" ethane fuel, "green", "eco" | Jun 28 20:13 |
| sp1n | watching some documentary | Jun 28 20:13 |
| techrights-news | mesa/mesa - The Mesa 3D Graphics Library (mirrored from https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa) ⚓ https://cgit.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/commit/?id=24be0119016f6181f5a39e6405f17ad199bd695c ䷉ Source: cgit | Jun 28 20:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gitlab.freedesktop.org | Mesa / mesa · GitLab | Jun 28 20:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cgit.freedesktop.org | mesa/mesa - The Mesa 3D Graphics Library (mirrored from https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa) | Jun 28 20:14 | |
| techrights-news | Running DOS on a 64-bit OS: A brief guide • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166592 | Jun 28 20:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Running DOS on a 64-bit OS: A brief guide | Tux Machines | Jun 28 20:14 | |
| techrights-news | Firefox 103 Beta Improves WebGL Performance on Linux for NVIDIA Drivers via DMA-Buf • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166593 | Jun 28 20:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Firefox 103 Beta Improves WebGL Performance on Linux for NVIDIA Drivers via DMA-Buf | Tux Machines | Jun 28 20:15 | |
| techrights-news | Linux Format 291 https://linuxformat.com/linux-format-291.html | Jun 28 20:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxformat.com | Linux Format 291 | Jun 28 20:17 | |
| techrights-news | Security Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166594 | Jun 28 20:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 28 20:21 | |
| techrights-news | ripgrep-all Command in Linux: One grep to Rule Them All • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166595 | Jun 28 20:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | ripgrep-all Command in Linux: One grep to Rule Them All | Tux Machines | Jun 28 20:22 | |
| techrights-news | Need a free Slack alternative? #HowTo quickly deploy Rocket.Chat • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166596 | Jun 28 20:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Need a free Slack alternative? How to quickly deploy Rocket.Chat | Tux Machines | Jun 28 20:22 | |
| techrights-news | Debian and The History of Debian Linux Distribution • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166597 | Jun 28 20:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian and The History of Debian Linux Distribution | Tux Machines | Jun 28 20:25 | |
| psydroid2 | https://www.theguardian.com/inequality/2017/sep/15/food-brands-accused-of-selling-inferior-versions-in-eastern-europe | Jun 28 20:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Food brands 'cheat' eastern European shoppers with inferior products | Inequality | The Guardian | Jun 28 20:35 | |
| psydroid2 | not tech, but ridiculous | Jun 28 20:35 |
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| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | just got dutch epo leaks | Jun 28 20:44 |
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| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | wanna read, psydroid2 | Jun 28 20:51 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | it's in English | Jun 28 20:51 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | not dutch | Jun 28 20:51 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | maybe I should ask the "hollander" | Jun 28 20:51 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | if he can spin it | Jun 28 20:51 |
| psydroid2 | der holländer weiss immer alles am besten | Jun 28 20:52 |
| psydroid2 | ok | Jun 28 20:52 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | it's aprtof a trend | Jun 28 20:52 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | attack on staff | Jun 28 20:52 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | disgusting | Jun 28 20:53 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | psydroid2: http://techrights.org/2022/06/28/epo-lawsuits-impending/ | Jun 28 20:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Lots of Legal Action Against the EPO Impending | Techrights | Jun 28 20:53 | |
| psydroid2 | the one time I met someone who worked at the EPO it was someone from the Czech Republic | Jun 28 20:54 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | the draft mentions r elocation | Jun 28 20:54 |
| techrights-news | Gemini as a Good gemini://jsreed5.org/log/2022/202206/20220628-gemini-as-a-good.gmi | Jun 28 20:55 |
| psydroid2 | regarding "tsunami ..." -> regarding a "tsunami ..." | Jun 28 20:56 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | corrected | Jun 28 20:56 |
| psydroid2 | The Benoît Battistelli -> The Benoît Battistelli era/reign/terror (you can pick your term) | Jun 28 20:58 |
| psydroid2 | pointed our -> pointed out | Jun 28 20:58 |
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| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | thanks, corrected | Jun 28 21:01 |
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| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | trend across industry | Jun 28 21:01 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | why many feeel demotivated | Jun 28 21:01 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | and demorislised | Jun 28 21:01 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | as their kids become more expensive | Jun 28 21:01 |
| XRevan86 | https://nitter.net/JuliaDavisNews/status/1541806984076328964 | Jun 28 21:03 |
| psydroid2 | the question is whether economic growth and population growth are sustainable | Jun 28 21:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.net | Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews): "Russian state media coverage of the Kremenchuk shopping mall strike. Predictably, they are denying that the strike even happened, calling it a "provocation" that was organized just in time for Sean Penn's return to Ukraine & the NATO summit. Western coverage is branded as "Fake.""|nitter | Jun 28 21:03 | |
| XRevan86 | https://nitter.net/JuliaDavisNews/status/1541828494493114369 | Jun 28 21:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.net | Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews): "Leave it to Tulsi Gabbard to again voice the pro-Kremlin talking points on Tucker Carlson's show, advocating for Zelensky to accept Russia's conditions [their only condition is Ukraine's total capitulation]. As always, Russian state TV is quick to showcase the clip."|nitter | Jun 28 21:04 | |
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| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | psydroid2: those are connected factors | Jun 28 21:07 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | XRevan86: ending the way would be a good thing, but | Jun 28 21:11 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | who's to trust Vlad to not invade another country? | Jun 28 21:12 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | first a piece of it, then the whole lot years later after experimenting | Jun 28 21:12 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | the conditions of peace or ceasefire matter | Jun 28 21:12 |
| XRevan86 | Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3: That another country should also totally capitulate, and that would be a good thing. | Jun 28 21:12 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | Gabbard went off the deep end by trusting Putin to honour an agreement | Jun 28 21:12 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | XRevan86: putin wants thge "bloc" back | Jun 28 21:13 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | we saw that in Belarus | Jun 28 21:13 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | when he offered help to Luka in crushing protesters | Jun 28 21:13 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | after the fake 'election' | Jun 28 21:13 |
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| XRevan86 | Schestowitz-Tr3: "Geopolitics" | Jun 28 21:18 |
| techrights-news | [Meme] EPO Policies Decided Behind Closed Doors | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/06/28/epo-policies/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/28/epo-policies/ | Jun 28 21:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] EPO Policies Decided Behind Closed Doors | Techrights | Jun 28 21:18 | |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | see what Lula (BR) said | Jun 28 21:19 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | I agree with him | Jun 28 21:19 |
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| XRevan86 | Schestowitz-Tr3: What did he say? | Jun 28 21:20 |
| *Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 looking now | Jun 28 21:20 | |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/brazils-lula-says-zelenskiy-as-responsible-putin-ukraine-war-2022-05-04/ | Jun 28 21:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Brazil's Lula says Zelenskiy 'as responsible as Putin' for Ukraine war | Reuters | Jun 28 21:21 | |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | this is slaant from reuters | Jun 28 21:21 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | hangs on | Jun 28 21:21 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | Reuters = Canada-owned | Jun 28 21:21 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | western media slanted this | Jun 28 21:21 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | by quote-mining | Jun 28 21:21 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | he said noobody seems to be worktring toawards peace | Jun 28 21:22 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | and this was slaanted like this: | Jun 28 21:22 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | this is OK https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/05/05/lula-criticizes-world-leaders-not-doing-enough-help-create-peace-ukraine | Jun 28 21:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Lula Criticizes World Leaders for Not Doing Enough to 'Help Create Peace' in Ukraine | Jun 28 21:22 | |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | slant: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/may/04/brazil-lula-zelenskiy-blame-war | Jun 28 21:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Brazil’s ex-president Lula claims Zelenskiy equally to blame for war | Brazil | The Guardian | Jun 28 21:22 | |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | https://www.plenglish.com/news/2022/06/03/lula-criticizes-biden-for-arms-support-to-ukraine/ | Jun 28 21:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.plenglish.com | Lula criticizes Biden for arms support to Ukraine - Prensa Latina | Jun 28 21:22 | |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | this is selective quoting https://www.news24.com/news24/world/news/brazils-lula-says-zelensky-shares-blame-for-ukraine-war-20220504 | Jun 28 21:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Brazil's Lula says Zelensky shares blame for Ukraine war | News24 | Jun 28 21:22 | |
| XRevan86 | Schestowitz-Tr3: I don't agree with this take. | Jun 28 21:24 |
| XRevan86 | > What was the reason for the Ukraine invasion? NATO? Then the U.S. and Europe should have said: 'Ukraine won't join NATO | Jun 28 21:24 |
| XRevan86 | That would not have done a single thing. | Jun 28 21:24 |
| XRevan86 | The Russian government is not complete morons, they know NATO doesn't want Ukraine. | Jun 28 21:25 |
| XRevan86 | Lula is confusing the outwards-facing propaganda with reasons for war, and so he won't understand the confict. | Jun 28 21:25 |
| techrights-news | Open Data is not "open source". Brands and terms cheapened and rendered meaningless. https://venturebeat.com/2022/06/28/roboflow-expands-open-source-datasets-for-better-computer-vision-ai-models/ | Jun 28 21:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Roboflow expands open-source datasets for better computer vision AI models | VentureBeat | Jun 28 21:28 | |
| sp1n | NATO is the military arm of the economic interests involved | Jun 28 21:28 |
| sp1n | Ukraine, fertile soil, "bio" fuels and whatever else | Jun 28 21:28 |
| techrights-news | Jonathan Dowland: WadC 3.1 https://jmtd.net/log/wadc_3.1/ | Jun 28 21:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jmtd.net | jmtd → log → WadC 3.1 | Jun 28 21:28 | |
| XRevan86 | > And Biden could have avoided war, not incited it | Jun 28 21:29 |
| XRevan86 | Fun fact: Biden personally ordered to drop confidentiality from the reports on the upcoming war. | Jun 28 21:29 |
| sp1n | it's a land-grabbing, with a comedy puppet installed as president | Jun 28 21:29 |
| MinceR | and once again activelow is spewing ruscist propaganda | Jun 28 21:29 |
| MinceR | like clockwork | Jun 28 21:29 |
| XRevan86 | It was made known that the US knows about that war is coming, and they gave away everything they knew. | Jun 28 21:29 |
| sp1n | it's a fact | Jun 28 21:29 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-27.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-28.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Jun 28 21:30 |
| techrights-news | Why organizations need site reliability engineers | ⚓ https://opensource.com/article/22/6/benefits-sre-site-reliability-engineering ䷉ Source: FreeSW | RedHat | IBM | GNU | Linux | Jun 28 21:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why organizations need site reliability engineers | Opensource.com | Jun 28 21:30 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: I don't even care anymore. | Jun 28 21:30 |
| XRevan86 | Of course Pieskov and co. at the time said that the US is spewing fake news and bullshit. | Jun 28 21:31 |
| XRevan86 | And then did exactly what the US said they would do. | Jun 28 21:31 |
| techrights-news | Will you sign my anti-RMS petition, Mr. Revoy? Revoy: SURE! Even if it tells lies. https://www.davidrevoy.com/article916/toulouse-signing-session-on-sunday | Jun 28 21:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.davidrevoy.com | Toulouse - Signing Session on Sunday - David Revoy | Jun 28 21:31 | |
| MinceR | "Will you sign my petition or will it be your surviving family members?" | Jun 28 21:32 |
| XRevan86 | I wonder if activelow knows that Zelensky comes from the Eastern part of Ukraine. | Jun 28 21:33 |
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| SomeH4x0r | does activelow still exist? | Jun 28 21:33 |
| sp1n | you see, this is what "EU" etc. want: Ukrainian corn, and this type of friendship Zelensky seeked, see for yourself what those friends are | Jun 28 21:34 |
| XRevan86 | SomeH4x0r: Yes, but under different nicknames now, this time it's "sp1n". | Jun 28 21:34 |
| SomeH4x0r | didn't they rage quit? | Jun 28 21:34 |
| SomeH4x0r | oh | Jun 28 21:34 |
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| MinceR | at least this nickname is more revealing | Jun 28 21:34 |
| MinceR | because he's all about the spin | Jun 28 21:35 |
| sp1n | facts | Jun 28 21:35 |
| XRevan86 | sp1n: And without Zelensky Ukrainian corn would've just disappeared. | Jun 28 21:35 |
| sp1n | Zelensky himself is whining 24/7 now, to the "friends" he chose to seek an aliance with | Jun 28 21:35 |
| XRevan86 | sp1n: I also prefer Putin's approach: brooding in a dungeon with no friends. | Jun 28 21:36 |
| sp1n | XRevan86: what Putin got, is the support of German Industry leaders | Jun 28 21:36 |
| XRevan86 | (that's not really true, Putin is leaving Russia to go to Turkmenistan soon :) ) | Jun 28 21:36 |
| MinceR | i hope he gets assassinated in turkmenistan | Jun 28 21:36 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Unlikely, they have a leader with a similiar approach to power. | Jun 28 21:37 |
| MinceR | it might be easier to get a drone to turkmenistan though | Jun 28 21:37 |
| XRevan86 | Ah, I see. True. | Jun 28 21:38 |
| XRevan86 | Is AfD German Industry? | Jun 28 21:38 |
| MinceR | they manufacture lies | Jun 28 21:38 |
| MinceR | does that count? | Jun 28 21:38 |
| sp1n | XRevan86: one of the founding members was BDI president (Henkel at that time), for example, yes | Jun 28 21:39 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: ^ apparently, yes. | Jun 28 21:39 |
| sp1n | although, most industry leaders aren't politically associated publicly | Jun 28 21:39 |
| MinceR | most of them have more sense than that? | Jun 28 21:39 |
| sp1n | Chancellor Schroeder, Rosneft, BASF etc... | Jun 28 21:39 |
| sp1n | XRevan86: i am surprised this "minor" detail shall be disputed | Jun 28 21:39 |
| XRevan86 | Such German indistrials like: Russia, Russia | Jun 28 21:40 |
| techrights-news | [Meme] EPO Bosses Sneer at Staff Unrest | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/06/28/sneerfing-at-staff-unrest/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/28/sneerfing-at-staff-unrest/ | Jun 28 21:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] EPO Bosses Sneer at Staff Unrest | Techrights | Jun 28 21:40 | |
| XRevan86 | Schroeder is a colourful example for sure. | Jun 28 21:41 |
| sp1n | not only Russia, in general industry spanned eastwards, including Czech republic, and wherever else | Jun 28 21:41 |
| sp1n | Airbus, who knows what | Jun 28 21:41 |
| MinceR | sp1n: why is it surprising to you that any detail of the propaganda you spout here would be disputed? | Jun 28 21:41 |
| MinceR | do you live in a bubble? | Jun 28 21:41 |
| techrights-news | Fedora Family / IBM Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166598 | Jun 28 21:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora Family / IBM Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 28 21:41 | |
| sp1n | MinceR: it's facts, it's not an opinion | Jun 28 21:41 |
| MinceR | riiiiiiiiiight | Jun 28 21:41 |
| MinceR | "alternative facts" | Jun 28 21:41 |
| MinceR | i know them well | Jun 28 21:42 |
| sp1n | no, trivial facts | Jun 28 21:42 |
| XRevan86 | "spanned eastwards" <- North Korea is also eastwards, coincidence? | Jun 28 21:42 |
| XRevan86 | Must mean German Industry is pro-DPRK. | Jun 28 21:42 |
| sp1n | i mean, BASF investments, and long-term contracts with Russia all that, Putin does not need any sort of "friendship" Zelensky enjoys now | Jun 28 21:42 |
| MinceR | if they're ruscists, they may as well be pro-north korea | Jun 28 21:42 |
| sp1n | XRevan86: you might be surprised, but yes, i had seen, by coincidence, some former east-german/zcech Tatra Trams were shipped to North Korea where those continue operation | Jun 28 21:43 |
| sp1n | and dictator kim, regularly, poses with a huge german mercedes benz vehicle | Jun 28 21:43 |
| XRevan86 | Must mean DPRK is actually a good regime with a kind noble leader. | Jun 28 21:43 |
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| MinceR | no doubt spin actually believes that | Jun 28 21:44 |
| sp1n | btw. Putin's wrist watch, is made in Saxony, Glashuette | Jun 28 21:44 |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: He called Kim a dictator, but I don't know if he means it like it's a bad thing. | Jun 28 21:44 |
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| sp1n | although, reports were, Putin was considere a disappointed friend of Germany, since recently | Jun 28 21:44 |
| sp1n | for, various reasons | Jun 28 21:45 |
| matey | /me tries to think of a word that combines "masturbatory" with "nazi" with "bullshit" | Jun 28 21:46 |
| XRevan86 | bullnazibatory | Jun 28 21:46 |
| matey | i guess "ruscist" is close enough for now | Jun 28 21:46 |
| matey | bullnazibatory <- it might work | Jun 28 21:46 |
| SomeH4x0r | might ask another person tomorrow if I don't forget | Jun 28 21:47 |
| sp1n | matey: ever looked into a mirror while excrement is dripping out of your mouth? | Jun 28 21:47 |
| MinceR | what a snappy comeback | Jun 28 21:47 |
| XRevan86 | Is it the first time activelow directly insulted someone? | Jun 28 21:48 |
| techrights-news | Mozilla Thunderbird 102 Released with New Address Book, Import/Export Wizard • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166599 | Jun 28 21:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mozilla Thunderbird 102 Released with New Address Book, Import/Export Wizard | Tux Machines | Jun 28 21:48 | |
| sp1n | yes | Jun 28 21:48 |
| psydroid2 | elizabeth báthory | Jun 28 21:48 |
| matey | /me giggles | Jun 28 21:48 |
| XRevan86 | SomeH4x0r: Of what? | Jun 28 21:48 |
| SomeH4x0r | on the words thing | Jun 28 21:48 |
| techrights-news | It is the usual lobbying nonsense from bribed politicians (bribed by the mass litigation lobby). It spills over to USPTO's site now. How appalling. https://content.govdelivery.com/accounts/USPTO/bulletins/31df580 | Jun 28 21:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-content.govdelivery.com | Following a series of Supreme Court decisions, new USPTO report on patent subject matter eligibility finds diversity of views regarding the current state of jurisprudence in the U.S. | Jun 28 21:48 | |
| SomeH4x0r | maybe they think of a better one | Jun 28 21:49 |
| matey | nazibate | Jun 28 21:49 |
| XRevan86 | I'm not really a fan of all of those new fancy words. | Jun 28 21:49 |
| sp1n | anyway, the strategy is known as "Wandel durch Handel" (change by economic trade associations), or "Wandel durch Annaeherung" (change by proximity) | Jun 28 21:49 |
| matey | most of them arent worth using twice, xrevan | Jun 28 21:50 |
| matey | they get out of hand very quickly | Jun 28 21:50 |
| matey | i take them less seriously than some people | Jun 28 21:50 |
| sp1n | meaning, any foreign policy can be imposed only in conjunction with economic dependencies | Jun 28 21:50 |
| matey | i dont subscribe to the foolish notion that human though is governed / ruled by words | Jun 28 21:50 |
| techrights-news | Linux Around The World: USA - Florida http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165929#comment-34164 | Jun 28 21:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU/Linux: Arch Linux, "Linux" Around The World, and Linux Format 290 | Tux Machines | Jun 28 21:50 | |
| sp1n | which is, the weakness of this approach, given Putin/Russia depend far less on anyone else than global economy depends on russia | Jun 28 21:50 |
| matey | as much as i like orwell, it was one of his dumbest ideas-- and not his alone | Jun 28 21:51 |
| sp1n | hence the argument, sanctions harm "the west" more than it did harm Russia | Jun 28 21:51 |
| techrights-news | "In this video, I am going to show an overview of EndeavourOS 22.6 Artemis and some of the applications pre-installed." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=aunpR7WQaB8 | Jun 28 21:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | EndeavourOS 22.6 Artemis overview | A terminal-centric distro with a vibrant and friendly community. - Invidious | Jun 28 21:51 | |
| XRevan86 | matey: The funny thing is that he picked it up from the short-lived fascination of Soviet Russia with Esperanto. | Jun 28 21:51 |
| matey | i wont negate the existence of SOME relationship between the two, only the totality that SOME fairly idiotic leftist ideas are based on | Jun 28 21:51 |
| XRevan86 | Which is a pretty insulting take on Esperanto. | Jun 28 21:51 |
| techrights-news | My 6 WORST LINUX MISTAKES - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=RapJNczwP7k ䷉ Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia | Jun 28 21:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | My 6 WORST LINUX MISTAKES - Invidious | Jun 28 21:51 | |
| matey | The funny thing is that he picked it up from the short-lived fascination of Soviet Russia with Esperanto <- that makes sense | Jun 28 21:51 |
| matey | Which is a pretty insulting take on Esperanto <- i can imagine | Jun 28 21:52 |
| XRevan86 | Also because Stalin cracked down on Esperanto and oppressed people related to it. | Jun 28 21:52 |
| matey | words are tools for expressing ideas | Jun 28 21:52 |
| matey | the idea that theyre magical incantations that allow the brain to do its job seems more than a little superstitious | Jun 28 21:52 |
| matey | to be taken seriously by "real scientists" | Jun 28 21:52 |
| matey | and insults an admittedly imperfect intelligence | Jun 28 21:53 |
| matey | Also because Stalin cracked down on Esperanto <- if stalin ever had a good idea, he probably had it shot | Jun 28 21:53 |
| techrights-news | The Local Staff Committee The Hague (LSCTH) gives a heads-up regarding a “tsunami of legal cases on the horizon” against Europe’s second-largest institution, which operates in the dark with impunity (and thus frequently breaks the law and breaks promises) http://techrights.org/2022/06/28/epo-lawsuits-impending/ | Jun 28 21:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Lots of Legal Action Against the EPO Impending | Techrights | Jun 28 21:54 | |
| XRevan86 | matey: Language is a medium of culture, and words reflect stereotypes. In that it does influence people. But there's a catch. | Jun 28 21:54 |
| matey | im willing to consider the fantastic notion that words have magical power | Jun 28 21:54 |
| techrights-news | The EPO has not been run like a patent office/system for over a decade already; wealthy stakeholders from other continents just turned it into their monopoly-granting machine, operating in violation of its own charter for the sole goal of increasing cashflow http://techrights.org/2022/06/28/epo-policies/ | Jun 28 21:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] EPO Policies Decided Behind Closed Doors | Techrights | Jun 28 21:54 | |
| matey | but to explain the human mind in such terms is sloppy even by my standards | Jun 28 21:54 |
| techrights-news | Hypothetical exchange between Benoît Battistelli and António Campinos http://techrights.org/2022/06/28/sneerfing-at-staff-unrest/ | Jun 28 21:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] EPO Bosses Sneer at Staff Unrest | Techrights | Jun 28 21:55 | |
| XRevan86 | The catch is that people also influence the language, and they'll use words and ideas they find useful to them. | Jun 28 21:55 |
| matey | The catch is that people also influence the language, and they'll use words and ideas they find useful to them <- see, its not rocket science | Jun 28 21:55 |
| techrights-news | Motorola.. hole rated CVSS v3 9.8 (out of 10!!!) https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-179-06 | Jun 28 21:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | Motorola Solutions ACE1000 | CISA | Jun 28 21:55 | |
| matey | words influence people, but theres a nuance! | Jun 28 21:55 |
| XRevan86 | People influence the language, the language influences the people, it's almost as if society shapes individuals and individuals shape society. Weird. | Jun 28 21:56 |
| matey | crazy! | Jun 28 21:56 |
| matey | its the people that give words godlike power (in the name of science) that makes me wonder what they put in the drinking water | Jun 28 21:56 |
| techrights-news | "The affected product utilizes an MDLC driver that has a password stored in plaintext in the wmdlcdrv.ini driver configuration file." ini sounds so..... Windows. https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-179-05 | Jun 28 21:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | Motorola Solutions MDLC | CISA | Jun 28 21:57 | |
| matey | if words didnt influence anyone at all, there would be very little point in complaining about this | Jun 28 21:57 |
| techrights-news | "Successful exploitation of this vulnerability could result in manipulation of device configuration." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-179-04 | Jun 28 21:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | Motorola Solutions MOSCAD IP and ACE IP Gateways | CISA | Jun 28 21:58 | |
| matey | brands influence people | Jun 28 21:59 |
| matey | and people can turn on them and render them worthless | Jun 28 21:59 |
| techrights-news | "Machine learning programming is an in-demand skill. Learn how to program an ML application with Python in this tutorial." https://www.itbusinessedge.com/development/python-for-machine-learning-tutorial/ | Jun 28 21:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itbusinessedge.com | Python for Machine Learning: A Tutorial | IT Business Edge | Jun 28 21:59 | |
| matey | imo ideas are more powerful than the words used to express those ideas | Jun 28 22:00 |
| matey | people who think words are more powerful than ideas, i think have a screw loose | Jun 28 22:00 |
| matey | but apart from that i think its incredibly sophomoric logic | Jun 28 22:01 |
| matey | the sort id expect from herr doktor | Jun 28 22:02 |
| matey | "all words comes from german, and all ideas come from words!" | Jun 28 22:02 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 28 22:02 |
| matey | "and there is but one word! herr bungholio!" | Jun 28 22:02 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 28 22:02 |
| XRevan86 | matey: Ergo Germans invented Communi… oh wait, they actually did. | Jun 28 22:03 |
| matey | thats fair because its true | Jun 28 22:03 |
| matey | though unlike marx, lenin at least is readable | Jun 28 22:03 |
| matey | (not that everyone will agree) | Jun 28 22:03 |
| XRevan86 | That's very debatable. | Jun 28 22:04 |
| matey | well if everyone had to agree, it wouldnt be leninism | Jun 28 22:04 |
| MinceR | i haven't attempted to read lenin yet | Jun 28 22:04 |
| matey | i havent had any trouble with it | Jun 28 22:04 |
| MinceR | i can attest to marx being unreadable, tedious and obviously wrong | Jun 28 22:04 |
| techrights-news | Fixing test coverage reports in at-spi2-core https://viruta.org/fixing-test-coverage.html | Jun 28 22:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-viruta.org | Fixing test coverage reports in at-spi2-core - Federico's Blog | Jun 28 22:04 | |
| matey | hes more accessible than dostoyevesky, and i enjoy dostoyevesky | Jun 28 22:04 |
| matey | at least in smaller-than-homer-like amounts | Jun 28 22:05 |
| matey | free software really is watered down communism | Jun 28 22:06 |
| MinceR | [citation needed] | Jun 28 22:06 |
| techrights-news | Vim 9.0 : vim online • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166600 | Jun 28 22:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Vim 9.0 : vim online | Tux Machines | Jun 28 22:06 | |
| matey | and both stallman and esr are too busy conflating stalinism with marxism to notice | Jun 28 22:06 |
| techrights-news | Audiocasts/Shows: GNU/Linux Mistakes, Demo of EndeavourOS 22.6, and Ubuntu’s Decline • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166601 | Jun 28 22:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Audiocasts/Shows: GNU/Linux Mistakes, Demo of EndeavourOS 22.6, and Ubuntu's Decline | Tux Machines | Jun 28 22:06 | |
| MinceR | what does conflating stalinism with marxism have to do with communism? | Jun 28 22:06 |
| matey | (and both vigorously deny it on grounds that are COMPLETELY reasonable, IF stalinism is interchangeable with communism) | Jun 28 22:06 |
| matey | <MinceR> what does conflating stalinism with marxism have to do with communism? <- a good question for maybe 90% of the west? | Jun 28 22:07 |
| MinceR | a good question for anyone who wants to know what point you're attempting to make | Jun 28 22:07 |
| MinceR | considering that for some people, even "communism" means different things from one hour to the next | Jun 28 22:07 |
| matey | if stalinism is the same thing as communism, both should be avoided | Jun 28 22:08 |
| MinceR | that whole memeplex is so intellectually lazy, even its proponents are unwilling to define any of the words they invented | Jun 28 22:08 |
| matey | certainly most "communist" countries were inspired more by stalin than marx | Jun 28 22:08 |
| matey | the worst of them for starters | Jun 28 22:08 |
| matey | more inspired by stalin than marx | Jun 28 22:08 |
| XRevan86 | Stalinism has as much to do with Communism as Putinism has with Sovereign Democracy. | Jun 28 22:08 |
| matey | <XRevan86> Stalinism has as much to do with Communism as Putinism has with Sovereign Democracy. <- this is refreshing | Jun 28 22:09 |
| *MinceR is not refreshed | Jun 28 22:09 | |
| matey | americans are taught that stalinism is communism | Jun 28 22:09 |
| *XRevan86 presses F5. | Jun 28 22:09 | |
| MinceR | nothing happens | Jun 28 22:09 |
| XRevan86 | Ctrl+F5 then. | Jun 28 22:09 |
| MinceR | still nothing happens | Jun 28 22:09 |
| matey | [15;5~ | Jun 28 22:09 |
| matey | [15~ <- f5 [15;5~ <- ctrl+f5 | Jun 28 22:10 |
| matey | i can see it, i bet you cant | Jun 28 22:10 |
| MinceR | i think you lost some escapes | Jun 28 22:10 |
| matey | they escaped | Jun 28 22:10 |
| XRevan86 | ^[[15;5~ | Jun 28 22:10 |
| matey | hey hey hey | Jun 28 22:10 |
| sp1n | anyway, Putin and Medvedev are a Tandem | Jun 28 22:10 |
| sp1n | rarely ever is Medvedev mentioned | Jun 28 22:11 |
| XRevan86 | That's a fresh take. | Jun 28 22:11 |
| sp1n | not sure what he does now | Jun 28 22:11 |
| XRevan86 | From like 2008. | Jun 28 22:11 |
| matey | im completely against stalinism | Jun 28 22:11 |
| XRevan86 | sp1n: Makes a fool of himself mostly. | Jun 28 22:11 |
| MinceR | is it common for tandems to have one member's hand up the other member's ass? | Jun 28 22:11 |
| sp1n | did they divorce? | Jun 28 22:11 |
| XRevan86 | sp1n: It was a one-time deal. | Jun 28 22:11 |
| sp1n | anyway, typically, the argument in "the west" was, to fight corruption | Jun 28 22:11 |
| matey | stalin would have done his country well to set himself on fire | Jun 28 22:11 |
| MinceR | that's true for most "leaders" | Jun 28 22:12 |
| matey | i can think of several people in power today that could do the world and their own people a similar favour | Jun 28 22:12 |
| MinceR | but more true for stalin than most | Jun 28 22:12 |
| sp1n | and Medvedev, was somehow rooted in the civil liberty and rights movement, to confront corruption in russia | Jun 28 22:12 |
| sp1n | although, just as said, i am no expert on internal politics of russia | Jun 28 22:12 |
| techrights-news | Proprietary software/Windows problem https://www.hecticgeek.com/browser-hijacker-how-to-remove-it/ | Jun 28 22:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.hecticgeek.com | What is a Browser Hijacker? How to Remove It | Jun 28 22:12 | |
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| MinceR | perhaps vladolf should finally copy his idol hitler and do what hitler did at the end of his life already | Jun 28 22:12 |
| sp1n | all i am saying is this, there could be worse, much worse, than Medvedev for example | Jun 28 22:13 |
| MinceR | not being an expert never stopped mr. spin | Jun 28 22:13 |
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| matey | /me still thinks vlad is more like stalin... but stalin and hitler had enough in common, its true | Jun 28 22:13 |
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| XRevan86 | sp1n: I, surprisingly enough, don't get your point. | Jun 28 22:13 |
| matey | i still like sp1ns ideas about gnu/linux | Jun 28 22:13 |
| techrights-news | "The 1.62.0 pre-release is ready for testing. The release is scheduled for this Thursday, June 30th. Release notes can be found here." https://blog.rust-lang.org/inside-rust/2022/06/28/1.62.0-prerelease.html Rust = CoCware controlled by Microsoft proprietary software | Jun 28 22:13 |
| MinceR | stalin should have done it too | Jun 28 22:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.rust-lang.org | 1.62.0 pre-release testing | Inside Rust Blog | Jun 28 22:13 | |
| matey | that is most of them | Jun 28 22:13 |
| sp1n | Sergej Lawrow seems to be a respected diplomat too | Jun 28 22:14 |
| MinceR | oh yeah, respected by every ruscist | Jun 28 22:14 |
| XRevan86 | Maybe in 2008. | Jun 28 22:14 |
| MinceR | and by absolutely no one else | Jun 28 22:14 |
| matey | XRevan86 you keep mentioning 2008 | Jun 28 22:14 |
| matey | what exactly are you referring to | Jun 28 22:14 |
| matey | (its my own fault i dont see that part so dont explain if you dont want to) | Jun 28 22:14 |
| MinceR | i think i'll stop watching the All Spin Zone with Bill O'Really? and play some games instead | Jun 28 22:15 |
| techrights-news | KaOS 2022.06 Now Available With KDE Plasma 5.25 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166345#comment-34165 | Jun 28 22:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KaOS 2022.06 | Tux Machines | Jun 28 22:15 | |
| sp1n | and i must admit, the documentaries about Russia i had seen, influenced my thinking | Jun 28 22:15 |
| XRevan86 | matey: It's kind of random, it's the year when Medvedev became President of Russia, until 2012. | Jun 28 22:15 |
| matey | that doesnt sound TOO random, but you would know | Jun 28 22:15 |
| sp1n | insofar, i do not believe the "EU" propaganda rubbish about Russia | Jun 28 22:15 |
| matey | /me never checks if XRevan86 makes this stuff up, but hasnt had any reason to doubt yet | Jun 28 22:15 |
| XRevan86 | Lavrov's fall from grace was gradual, but since I picked 2008 already, might as well use it again. | Jun 28 22:15 |
| matey | my focus on russia is still decades earlier | Jun 28 22:16 |
| matey | someday i might get to the present, as far as russia goes | Jun 28 22:16 |
| XRevan86 | No one respects Lavrov now, he's rhetoric is bydlo-like at best. | Jun 28 22:16 |
| XRevan86 | * his rhetoric | Jun 28 22:16 |
| matey | /me doesnt even know who bydlo is, sadly | Jun 28 22:16 |
| matey | but thats ok | Jun 28 22:16 |
| XRevan86 | matey: gopnik then | Jun 28 22:16 |
| matey | perhaps shameful, but still ok | Jun 28 22:16 |
| matey | oh! | Jun 28 22:16 |
| matey | gopnik i know :) | Jun 28 22:17 |
| matey | whats the difference between a gopnik and a bydlo | Jun 28 22:17 |
| matey | if i knew the answer, this could be a riddle | Jun 28 22:17 |
| XRevan86 | matey: Well, bydlo is a derogatory term for, well, the uncultured swine. | Jun 28 22:17 |
| matey | oh ok | Jun 28 22:18 |
| XRevan86 | Gopnik is a particular urban subculture. | Jun 28 22:18 |
| techrights-news | PeaZip 8.7 File Archiver Brings Functionality Improvements • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166602 | Jun 28 22:18 |
| matey | sounds like bydlo is less polite | Jun 28 22:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | PeaZip 8.7 File Archiver Brings Functionality Improvements | Tux Machines | Jun 28 22:18 | |
| matey | you can say gopnik without getting punched | Jun 28 22:18 |
| techrights-news | What Is Syslinux? The Syslinux Archive File Structure Explained • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166603 | Jun 28 22:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | What Is Syslinux? The Syslinux Archive File Structure Explained | Tux Machines | Jun 28 22:18 | |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166604 | Jun 28 22:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 28 22:18 | |
| XRevan86 | matey: Probably. | Jun 28 22:18 |
| matey | yeah well, if there was a guarantee, what kind of gopniks would they be | Jun 28 22:19 |
| matey | "reform gopnik" | Jun 28 22:19 |
| matey | is there a russian equivalent of -lite | Jun 28 22:19 |
| XRevan86 | Lavrov is trying to sound tough and uses sharp words. | Jun 28 22:20 |
| XRevan86 | He's not a diplomat at this point. | Jun 28 22:20 |
| matey | so, page from trumps book | Jun 28 22:20 |
| XRevan86 | Lacks the spirit of one for sure. | Jun 28 22:20 |
| matey | (which is mein kampf, as everyone knows) | Jun 28 22:20 |
| techrights-news | NOAA Gets 3X More Oomph For Weather Forecasting; It Needs 3,300X ⚓ https://www.nextplatform.com/2022/06/28/noaa-gets-3x-more-oomph-for-weather-forecasting-it-needs-3300x/ ䷉ Source: nextplatform | Jun 28 22:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nextplatform.com | NOAA Gets 3X More Oomph For Weather Forecasting; It Needs 3,300X | Jun 28 22:22 | |
| techrights-news | 'Innovation solves problems' says Wealth Manager who lost over half her clients’ assets in half a year. - BaronHK’s Rants ⚓ https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/06/28/innovation-solves-problems-says-wealth-manager-who-lost-over-half-her-clients-assets-in-half-a-year/ ䷉ Source: baronhk | Jun 28 22:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | “Innovation solves problems” says Wealth Manager who lost over half her clients’ assets in half a year. – BaronHK's Rants | Jun 28 22:23 | |
| sp1n | anyway, NATO called hundreds of thousands of troops on alert recently | Jun 28 22:23 |
| XRevan86 | "is there a russian equivalent of -lite" <- Like in "dendrolite"? | Jun 28 22:24 |
| matey | like in lite beer | Jun 28 22:24 |
| techrights-news | The Rust Programming Language Blog: Announcing The RustConf PostConf UnConf https://blog.rust-lang.org/2022/06/28/rust-unconference.html | Jun 28 22:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.rust-lang.org | Announcing The RustConf PostConf UnConf | Rust Blog | Jun 28 22:24 | |
| techrights-news | Open Source RISC-V: Serving a Side of Software with Chips • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166605 | Jun 28 22:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Source RISC-V: Serving a Side of Software with Chips | Tux Machines | Jun 28 22:24 | |
| matey | some would go so far as to say "diluted" but "lite" | Jun 28 22:24 |
| matey | is sometimes supposed to be a good thing | Jun 28 22:25 |
| XRevan86 | matey: Isn't that just a variation on "light"? | Jun 28 22:25 |
| matey | of course but its only used in certain situations | Jun 28 22:25 |
| matey | where light can be used in all of them | Jun 28 22:25 |
| matey | so its technically more specific | Jun 28 22:25 |
| XRevan86 | Only in the sense of lightweight. | Jun 28 22:25 |
| XRevan86 | Well, that's just "лёгкий". | Jun 28 22:25 |
| matey | and often means "watered down" either literally or figuratively | Jun 28 22:25 |
| matey | so gopnik-лёгкий | Jun 28 22:26 |
| XRevan86 | гопник-на-минималках :) | Jun 28 22:26 |
| techrights-news | Atmosphere Of A Denver Concert Hall gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1046 | Jun 28 22:26 |
| XRevan86 | on minimum settings, slangy | Jun 28 22:26 |
| matey | im sure it looks weird with half roman/half cyrillic | Jun 28 22:26 |
| techrights-news | THE MAN WHO COULD WORK MIRACLES added to library. gemini://gemini.locrian.zone/library/Wells/Miracles.gmi | Jun 28 22:27 |
| XRevan86 | minimum requirements rather | Jun 28 22:27 |
| techrights-news | "It's the first piece of music that I geniunely liked a lot that's discovered by myself, and it's safe to say that it shaped most of my music taste in the future." gemini://cyi1341.smol.pub/music0 | Jun 28 22:27 |
| matey | /me tries to think if he got "herr DOKTOR" from young frankenstein (cloris leechman) | Jun 28 22:28 |
| matey | high anxiety? (still mel brooks and cloris leechman) | Jun 28 22:28 |
| matey | (except now shes in something completely risque) | Jun 28 22:28 |
| techrights-news | CVSS v3 9.8 (out of 10!!). Proprietary software strikes again. The media won't mention this as it's not "Open Source" (to spread FUD about) https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-179-03 | Jun 28 22:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | Advantech iView | CISA | Jun 28 22:29 | |
| sp1n | XRevan86: the point is this, i cannot comprehend the insanity anymore myself | Jun 28 22:29 |
| techrights-news | "An attacker obtaining this password could change the network settings of the option board." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-179-02 | Jun 28 22:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | Omron SYSMAC CS/CJ/CP Series and NJ/NX Series | CISA | Jun 28 22:30 | |
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| matey | madeline khan was a goddess | Jun 28 22:30 |
| matey | kahn. jewish, not muslim. | Jun 28 22:31 |
| techrights-news | CISA has, in effect, become a mouthpiece of Microsoft or infiltrated by Microsoft moles https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/06/28/cisa-releases-guidance-switching-modern-auth-exchange-online | Jun 28 22:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | CISA Releases Guidance on Switching to Modern Auth in Exchange Online before October 1 | CISA | Jun 28 22:31 | |
| matey | either way she was amazing | Jun 28 22:31 |
| XRevan86 | https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/06/28/under-the-influence "Russian lawmakers set to pass integrated ‘foreign agents’ bill, broadening restrictions" | Jun 28 22:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLE | Jun 28 22:33 | |
| techrights-news | BlueMail E-Mail Client Gets a Makeover, Support for Wayland • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166606 | Jun 28 22:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | BlueMail E-Mail Client Gets a Makeover, Support for Wayland | Tux Machines | Jun 28 22:34 | |
| matey | https://yewtu.be/watch?v=tOjH-yoEJe0 | Jun 28 22:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Young Frankenstein (1974) Bloopers & Outtakes - Invidious | Jun 28 22:34 | |
| matey | "Russian lawmakers set to pass integrated ‘foreign agents’ bill" | Jun 28 22:34 |
| matey | "all spies must register with security officer"-- natasha fatale, rocky and bullwinkle | Jun 28 22:34 |
| matey | "were not going to register?" | Jun 28 22:34 |
| matey | "whos going to spy? were just going to sabotage" | Jun 28 22:34 |
| XRevan86 | Putin used to agree that the "foreign agent" law needs rework as it's too easy to abuse. | Jun 28 22:35 |
| matey | yes | Jun 28 22:35 |
| matey | its best to keep foreign against on a tight leash | Jun 28 22:35 |
| XRevan86 | And now *everyone* can be deemed a foreign agent, problem solved. | Jun 28 22:35 |
| matey | /me throws keyboard out window and just hotwires the usb port | Jun 28 22:35 |
| techrights-news | Microbell openwashing his boss, AMD, even though it's outsourced to Microsoft's PROPRIETARY prison https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMD-GPUOpen-gpurt | Jun 28 22:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AMD GPUOpen Working On A New "gpurt" Open-Source Project - Phoronix | Jun 28 22:35 | |
| matey | hey are you looking for a needle? why not ADD MORE HAY | Jun 28 22:36 |
| XRevan86 | Can't find a juicy Lavrov's quip with English subtitles. Oh well. | Jun 28 22:36 |
| techrights-news | New generation of Armv9 CPUs unleash unprecedented compute power https://community.arm.com/arm-community-blogs/b/announcements/posts/compute-performance-unleashed | Jun 28 22:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-community.arm.com | Next-gen Armv9 CPUs unleash compute performance - Announcements - Arm Community blogs - Arm Community | Jun 28 22:36 | |
| XRevan86 | https://nitter.net/TpyxaNews/status/1541892250443124736 | Jun 28 22:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.net | ТРУХА⚡️English (@TpyxaNews): "The moment of arrival at shopping mall in Kremenchuk."|nitter | Jun 28 22:38 | |
| matey | eyegor, would you help me with these bags? | Jun 28 22:39 |
| matey | certainly! you take the blonde and ill take the one in the turban! | Jun 28 22:39 |
| psydroid2 | Microbel didn't have a lot to say about the ARM announcement, maybe he was instructed to do so by his masters | Jun 28 22:41 |
| XRevan86 | sp1n: ^ Look at this short video, look at it. | Jun 28 22:41 |
| psydroid2 | the LF/AMD overlords | Jun 28 22:41 |
| sp1n | XRevan86: i locked down and out myself of any videos online | Jun 28 22:42 |
| XRevan86 | sp1n: Look at this particular one. | Jun 28 22:42 |
| sp1n | can't, i reject the wester non-free web-crap, got none of this installed to watch online videos | Jun 28 22:43 |
| sp1n | if you got a link elsewhere, to wget this, if it is worth the effort | Jun 28 22:43 |
| techrights-news | Links 28/06/2022: Mozilla Thunderbird 102 and EasyOS 4.2.2 Released | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/06/28/easyos-4-2-2-released/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/28/easyos-4-2-2-released/ | Jun 28 22:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 28/06/2022: Mozilla Thunderbird 102 and EasyOS 4.2.2 Released | Techrights | Jun 28 22:44 | |
| XRevan86 | sp1n: Will semi-Russian non-free web crap do the trick: https://t.me/truexanewsua/52337 ? | Jun 28 22:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-t.me | Telegram: Contact @truexanewsua | Jun 28 22:44 | |
| techrights-news | Programming Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166607 | Jun 28 22:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 28 22:44 | |
| techrights-news | Fixing test coverage reports in at-spi2-core • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166608 | Jun 28 22:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fixing test coverage reports in at-spi2-core | Tux Machines | Jun 28 22:45 | |
| sp1n | tried with w3m, nothing | Jun 28 22:45 |
| Schestowitz-Ｔｒ3 | XRevan86: terrorussia | Jun 28 22:46 |
| *psydroid2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) | Jun 28 22:47 | |
| matey | the only thing gene wilder ever argued with mel brooks about was the tapdancing scene in young frankenstein | Jun 28 22:50 |
| matey | which was wilders idea (he co-wrote the film) | Jun 28 22:50 |
| matey | and to get that scene in, wilder had to argue with brooks for 20 mintues | Jun 28 22:50 |
| matey | at which point brooks relented | Jun 28 22:50 |
| matey | wilder asked why he put him through that, and brooks said he wasnt sure about it but he knew if he argued for it it was right | Jun 28 22:51 |
| matey | whats funny is that brooks said "you tapdance to irving berlin in a top hat and tails with the monster? are you nuts?" | Jun 28 22:52 |
| matey | because you know, mel brooks movies dont do such silly things... | Jun 28 22:52 |
| matey | or maybe they didnt! imagine if it was gene wilder that made mel brooks as silly as he was after 1974 | Jun 28 22:52 |
| matey | no robin hood men in tights without wilder, maybe | Jun 28 22:53 |
| matey | all for a tapdancing scene | Jun 28 22:53 |
| XRevan86 | https://i.ibb.co/gM4jwdW/image.jpg Spent some time to figure out where exactly is the camera located, and I think it points into the direction of the mall roughly like this. | Jun 28 22:58 |
| XRevan86 | So the point where the arrow begins is where the camera approximately is. | Jun 28 22:58 |
| XRevan86 | And the big building is the mall. | Jun 28 22:58 |
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| XRevan86 | sp1n: https://yewtu.be/UNenw0zCdsM found this re-upload to YouTube, will this do, with yt-dlp? | Jun 28 23:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Close up to the moment of the missile hit into Kremenchuk shopping mall - cancelling Russia version - Invidious | Jun 28 23:01 | |
| XRevan86 | https://theins.press/en/news/252657 I'll post this again, as a reminder. | Jun 28 23:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theins.press | Russian Defense Ministry confirms strike on Kremenchuk, says ammo explosion caused shopping mall fire | Jun 28 23:01 | |
| XRevan86 | And because this video contradicts the Ministry of War's version, it's officially Fake News in Russia. | Jun 28 23:02 |
| matey | do you think this will be figured out definitively, or will it become another "second gunman on the grassy knoll" kind of thing (the jfk shooting) | Jun 28 23:02 |
| XRevan86 | matey: What do ye mean? It's pretty much figured out already. | Jun 28 23:03 |
| XRevan86 | And we're just two days in. | Jun 28 23:04 |
| XRevan86 | matey: The video even confirms the reports that Russia uses anti-ship missiles, because it captures the missile itself. | Jun 28 23:05 |
| XRevan86 | A bloody Kh-22 | Jun 28 23:05 |
| XRevan86 | That's their definition of high-precision weaponry. | Jun 28 23:06 |
| XRevan86 | sp1n: https://files.catbox.moe/8d1737.mp4 direct link, hopefully lives long enough. | Jun 28 23:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Failed connect to files.catbox.moe:443; Network is unreachable ( status 0 @ https://files.catbox.moe/8d1737.mp4 ) | Jun 28 23:10 | |
| XRevan86 | Enjoy. | Jun 28 23:10 |
| matey | even confirms the reports that Russia uses anti-ship missiles <- whats special about this? | Jun 28 23:11 |
| XRevan86 | I should also clarify, there was another missile that did actually hit the factory, and the earlier-released video ( https://nitter.net/TpyxaNews/status/1541749627283701760 ) did in fact capture the strike of that second missile. And one can see the smoke coming the mall at the 33 second mark. | Jun 28 23:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.net | ТРУХА⚡️English (@TpyxaNews): "The moment of the explosion after the missile attack on the Amstor mall in Kremenchuk."|nitter | Jun 28 23:15 | |
| matey | basically if they gave half a fuck about civilian casualties, they would use something else or at least somewhere else? | Jun 28 23:16 |
| XRevan86 | https://files.catbox.moe/91d6y5.mp4 a re-upload of that other video, special for sp1n. | Jun 28 23:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Failed connect to files.catbox.moe:443; Network is unreachable ( status 0 @ https://files.catbox.moe/91d6y5.mp4 ) | Jun 28 23:16 | |
| matey | but since they dont they just said "heres a good idea, lets launch a ship missile near a mall and hope it hits the factory?" | Jun 28 23:17 |
| XRevan86 | matey: The special thing is that these missiles are not even designed for on-ground targets. | Jun 28 23:18 |
| matey | sounds more and more like iraq | Jun 28 23:18 |
| matey | you know in iraq a tank fired at journalists in a hotel? | Jun 28 23:18 |
| matey | a tank. at journalists. in a hotel. | Jun 28 23:18 |
| matey | an american tank. | Jun 28 23:18 |
| matey | cnn journalists (ok, you can make your own jokes, but make them at the hague at least) | Jun 28 23:19 |
| matey | american tank shooting at american journalists | Jun 28 23:19 |
| matey | because hotels are VERY important targets | Jun 28 23:19 |
| matey | in a war thats not illegal as fuck | Jun 28 23:19 |
| XRevan86 | matey: Did they respond with saying the tank was actually Ukrainian? | Jun 28 23:22 |
| XRevan86 | or that it was shot with Ukrainian air defence, and that made it go on a wrong trajectory? | Jun 28 23:22 |
| matey | the other day putin was stumbling around drunk, throwing bricks in the general direction of a bear and taunting "come at me bro" | Jun 28 23:22 |
| sp1n | XRevan86: reminds me, Ukraine/Zelensky ordered German Artillery Tank-Howitzer 2000 (Panzerhaubitze 2000) | Jun 28 23:23 |
| matey | what could possibly go wrong | Jun 28 23:23 |
| sp1n | recently, delivered as ordered | Jun 28 23:23 |
| XRevan86 | sp1n: Reminds how? | Jun 28 23:23 |
| XRevan86 | sp1n: Did ye process the videos and the Russian Ministry of War's claims? | Jun 28 23:23 |
| XRevan86 | Did it sink in? | Jun 28 23:23 |
| matey | it sank | Jun 28 23:23 |
| XRevan86 | https://nitter.net/Podolyak_M/status/1541890983146692608 Probably a better link that Труха. | Jun 28 23:25 |
| XRevan86 | If anyone wants to share it about. | Jun 28 23:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.net | Михайло Подоляк (@Podolyak_M): ""Absolute terrorism" – says @ZelenskyyUa and publishes a video of a deliberate missile strike on the Kremenchuk shopping center with people inside. Russian propaganda always lies: there is no coincidence, it is a deliberate blow to intimidate the population and mass victims."|nitter | Jun 28 23:26 | |
| XRevan86 | "deliberate" <- Again, I personally don't necessarily claim that. | Jun 28 23:29 |
| XRevan86 | But Russia definitely accepted that these things will inevitably happen and decided to just lie through their teeth every time it does happen. | Jun 28 23:30 |
| XRevan86 | No responsibility taken whatsoever. | Jun 28 23:30 |
| XRevan86 | 125th day of the invasion, no responsibility. | Jun 28 23:31 |
| matey | thats what happens when you put a psycho in charge | Jun 28 23:32 |
| XRevan86 | The "oh shit, let's be more careful next time" moment is not going to happen, this is not the first time this happened (by far), and sure as heck not the last. | Jun 28 23:33 |
| XRevan86 | In that sense it is deliberate. | Jun 28 23:33 |
| matey | the negligence is deliberate | Jun 28 23:34 |
| XRevan86 | Yes. | Jun 28 23:34 |
| matey | the effects are results of that negligence | Jun 28 23:34 |
| matey | you cant say its an innocent mistake if you know the outcome and dont give a shit | Jun 28 23:34 |
| matey | like every stupid bully in history | Jun 28 23:35 |
| matey | putin and the republicans think they can pull this shit endlessly and never have to answer for it | Jun 28 23:36 |
| matey | theyre going to be very surprised when the time comes | Jun 28 23:36 |
| XRevan86 | Or rather, the negligence being acceptable is deliberate. | Jun 28 23:36 |
| XRevan86 | "Panzerhaubitze" <- True. So? | Jun 28 23:37 |
| sp1n | boom | Jun 28 23:38 |
| XRevan86 | https://unian.net/war/0-11882238.html some pictures | Jun 28 23:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.unian.net | Немецкие Panzerhaubitze 2000 уже работают на фронте (фото) — УНИАН | Jun 28 23:39 | |
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