Bonum Certa Men Certa

IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: July 1st, 2008



*dsmith_ (n=dsmith@c-76-114-142-224.hsd1.md.comcast.net) has joined #boycottnovellJul 01 02:07
*lis` has quit ("baibai<3")Jul 01 03:12
*dsmith_ has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))Jul 01 03:43
*moparx has quit ("Lost terminal")Jul 01 05:14
*PetoKraus (n=Peter@host-77-247-224-25.isper.sk) has joined #boycottnovellJul 01 07:39
schestowitz1 down, 3 to go. Linspire seems to have been enveloped by Xandros and I've found sufficient confirmation of the facts.Jul 01 10:39
PetoKrauswhat are the remaining three?Jul 01 10:46
schestowitzTurbolinux (almost negligible, except for Asia), Xandros (not much news from them) and Novell, which is by far the baddest [sic] problem because it's orders of magnitude bigger. Novell too is deflating though.Jul 01 10:50
*PetoKraus has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host))Jul 01 11:14
schestowitz"More than that is GPLv3, which only grandfathered in the deal with Novell. As time goes on and GPLv3 figures more largely in the typical Linux distro, the other corps who signed on with MS will be stuck in a hard place." From http://linux.slashdo...Jul 01 11:27
schestowitzAlso of interest (from Slashdot): "Never liked them much. Xandros is on the way out too. Only thing it has at the moment is that it's shipped on the Eee PC by default (apart from XP). But Given that people then stick their own flavour of Linux on an Eee (Like Ubuntu). Once the UMPC version of Ubuntu is release,d it might take over Xandros's place on the Eee PC's"Jul 01 11:29
*benJIman is now known as benJIman`on`holiJul 01 16:43
*benJIman`on`holi is now known as benJIman`holidayJul 01 16:43
*dsmith_ (n=dsmith@c-76-114-142-224.hsd1.md.comcast.net) has joined #boycottnovellJul 01 17:16
*dsmith_ has quit ()Jul 01 17:37
*moparx (n=moparx@pdpc/supporter/base/moparx) has joined #boycottnovellJul 01 17:58
*benJIman`holiday has quit (Connection timed out)Jul 01 18:45
*benJIman (n=benji@89.16.166.9) has joined #boycottnovellJul 01 20:58
*PetoKraus (n=Peter@host-77-247-224-25.isper.sk) has joined #boycottnovellJul 01 21:46
*RogerBacon (i=RogerBac@bas3-sherbrooke40-1177645268.dsl.bell.ca) has joined #boycottnovellJul 01 21:52
RogerBaconheeeyyyJul 01 21:53
RogerBaconschestowitzJul 01 21:53
RogerBaconyou're around ?Jul 01 21:54
schestowitzYes, but was about to leave.Jul 01 21:54
schestowitzI got my new PC today, so I need to spend time on that nuisance. :-SJul 01 21:54
RogerBaconthen leaveJul 01 21:54
RogerBacongood byeJul 01 21:55
RogerBacon;)Jul 01 21:55
schestowitzNo, no... I was going to bed within a few moments anyway.Jul 01 21:55
RogerBaconm..kJul 01 21:59
schestowitzI swear it's not deliberate. I'm preparing the final batch of links as we speak here.Jul 01 21:59
PetoKraus:DJul 01 22:00
PetoKrausalright, gn guys, after today's Status Quo concert i am partially deafJul 01 22:01
schestowitzHey, PetoKraus. I have some good news coming in a moment.Jul 01 22:01
PetoKrausgood news can wait till tommorowJul 01 22:01
PetoKrausit's only the bad ones which you need to know fast ;)Jul 01 22:01
schestowitzNo bad news today. Just lots of good news.Jul 01 22:02
schestowitzRogerBacon,, good news about MSFT. 52-year low., I believe...Jul 01 22:02
schestowitz*52-week.Jul 01 22:02
RogerBaconi concider this like a bad news ...Jul 01 22:03
RogerBacon;)Jul 01 22:03
schestowitz...and a 52-year low for Gates (isn't he 52?). Open source investment at all-time  high (announced today?)Jul 01 22:03
schestowitzRogerBacon, don't you want FOSS to replace Microsoft's wares?Jul 01 22:04
RogerBaconsure, i dont know anything else than microsoft product :DJul 01 22:04
RogerBaconjust kiddingJul 01 22:04
schestowitzHere is the thing. The girt of it anyway: many schools appear to be seriously looking at or already purchasing Linux facilities. XP expires and investors must be unhappy; Gates' departure and the failed Yahoo! bid is another issue./Jul 01 22:05
schestowitzRogerBacon, most people don't. I'm no *NIX guru, but it's a matter of intuition.Jul 01 22:05
RogerBaconand people just hate vistaJul 01 22:06
RogerBaconthat's nothing good for themJul 01 22:06
schestowitzMicrosoft need to reinvent Windows or replace it. That's why Novell is something to worry about.Jul 01 22:07
RogerBaconokay, need to leave, byeJul 01 22:09
RogerBaconunfortunetly that's true ... microsoft it's in a bad postition right nowJul 01 22:09
schestowitzI'll see you later, RogerBacon Jul 01 22:09
schestowitzI can't say I feel bad for them.Jul 01 22:09
*schestowitz be back in about 7 hours.Jul 01 22:12
*PetoKraus has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host))Jul 01 22:50
*RogerBacon has quit (Connection timed out)Jul 01 23:10

Recent Techrights' Posts

So When Will British Politicians, Police, Government Departments Quit Twitter (X.com)?
They sure bring constituents there (by being there)
IBM Red Hat Does Not Compete With Microsoft, It's a Microsoft Reseller
even if employees of Red Hat dislike and distrust Microsoft
Dr. Andy Farnell on Marketing Bad Things Like Slop Using FOMO (Fear of "Being Left Behind")
many of the same themes we often cover here
IBM Stock Compared to Bitcoin, Fake Articles About IBM Promote Myths About IBM
The stock moves based on false marketing
 
IBM is Not a Leftist Company, the "I" Stands for Imperialism, and Poo Floats to the Top
Remember that AK is military from both sides of his family
Links 13/01/2026: More Mass Layoffs in GAFAM, Catching Up With Political News of Early January
Links for the day
Freedom of Speech in the UK (or Freedom of the Press/Expression) and Protection From Adversaries
undressing people without consent and in very bad taste is not "speech"
Ending the Status Quo at the European Patent Office (EPO) This Year
Things will continue to get worse as long as the "Digital Majority" stays silent and/or passive
Greenland Ought to Move to GNU/Linux, Not Apple
GNU/Linux at 4%
If You Care About Freedom, Don't Follow IBM Red Hat (Like Microsoft Novell 20 Years Ago)
IBM Red Hat and Microsoft don't seem to compete
Red Hat Layoffs, Even of "AI" Staff in India
This is how companies die
LLM Slop Isn't Replacing Online News, It's Just a Pest That's Gradually Going Away as Money for Slop Runs Out
Slop likes to talk about itself (like some kind of 'web-cancer')
Not Journalism: Almost 80% of the 'Articles' We Saw About Torvalds and 'Vibe Coding' Are LLM Slop (Sometimes Slop Images)
The real issue is, Torvalds who created Git as a solution to proprietary prison is entertaining Microsoft's own proprietary prison
EPO People Power - Part XXXIII - Interest From Some European Media, For a Change
Without it, we'll become another Russian Federation
Just Another Reminder That Microsoft Didn't Deny Mass Layoffs
Remember that Microsoft never denied this
GNU/Linux Measured at 6% in Réunion This Year
Population sizes like a million people are nothing to sneeze at
Bluewashing Continues, Red Hat Onboarding Interns in Low-Paid Regions
It's the end of the second Monday of 2026
Over at Tux Machines...
GNU/Linux news for the past day
IRC Proceedings: Monday, January 12, 2026
IRC logs for Monday, January 12, 2026
Gemini Links 13/01/2026: ScottoRang and Outage
Links for the day
GNU/Linux Exceeding 6% in Cape Verde
Windows is measured as down sharply
When It Comes to Health, Slop is a Flop and It Kills People
Chatbots will mostly die after many people die due to them
2026 Has Begun Well for GNU/Linux Users (and for Us)
A lot of the anti-Linux FUD we got accustomed to seeing some years ago became scarce
Links 12/01/2026: Vista 11 Exodus and Famicom/NES Game
Links for the day
Links 12/01/2026: Twitter (X) Being Blocked in More Countries, PTAB Besieged by Cheeto Appointees (Bad Patents Getting Through)
Links for the day
Links 12/01/2026: Brussels Plotting Exit From GAFAM (US), Carole Cadwalladr Explains "Peter Thiel's New Model Army"
Links for the day
Oligarchs and States Always Attempted to Obstruct Efforts to Expose Their Corruption
We commend the administrator who consistently and adamantly defend the freedom of speech
Scheduled Maintenance Between 15th of January and Days to Follow, Free Software Foundation (FSF) Looking to Add 43 More Members by 16th of January
People who value Software Freedom should consider joining to support the FSF
Bracing for Microsoft Layoffs, Tired of Microsoft Lies, Microsoft Staff Wants Transparency, Not Face-Saving Coverup From Frank Shaw
totally made up stock price
GNU/Linux Estimated at Around 5% in Montserrat
another country where the "share" of GNU/Linux is now measured at 5%
GNU/Linux Exceeding 5% in Guadeloupe According to statCounter
GNU/Linux "share" estimates in Guadeloupe
Dr. Richard Stallman @ Georgia Tech Next Week
More Than One Week From Now
EPO People Power - Part XXXII - Little Hope That European Press Will Attempt to Expose Drug Abuse in Europe's Second-Largest Organisation
What does this tell us about the press in Europe?
Three most controversial Australian authors linked to St Paul's, Coburg
Reprinted with permission from Daniel Pocock
Links 11/01/2026: Data Breaches and Recent (Early 2026) Political Developments
Links for the day
Gemini Links 12/01/2026: Insomniacs After School and Boycotting Amazon
Links for the day
Over at Tux Machines...
GNU/Linux news for the past day
IRC Proceedings: Sunday, January 11, 2026
IRC logs for Sunday, January 11, 2026
Brett Wilson LLP 'Dropping' the LLP, Is This Rebranding?
It's not a coincidence or a glitch, there was a formal change somewhere in the system
Can IBM Still Control the Narrative?
We'll see what comes out through the grapevine later this week
IBM SkillsBuild as Microsoft Training, Microsoft Vendor Lock-in, Microsoft Surveillance
Microsoft benefits from IBM's "training"
EPO People Power - Part XXXI - Almost No Crime is Possible Without Enablers and Complicit Colleagues
By the middle of January 2026 we'll have taken things up another gear
Aruba's GNU/Linux Adoption Seems to Have Reach All-Time High This Year
ChromeOS rose by a lot too
After the LLM Slop Frenzy...
In every way, slop is no better than spam
Links 11/01/2026: 'Nothing to Lose' in Iran and Kyiv Restores Electricity
Links for the day
Gemini Links 11/01/2026: "Late To The Party" and "Thinking About Software Licences"
Links for the day
Links 11/01/2026: Bob Weir and Stewart Cheifet Perish
Links for the day
Higher Adoption Rates of GNU/Linux in Cyprus in Recent Years
there are some Cypriots who are championing Free software
Microsoft's linkedin.com is Shrinking, Expect LinkedIn Layoffs to Carry on in 2026
Expect the mass layoffs and office closures to carry on there, maybe as early as next week
Gemini Links 11/01/2026: Scott Morgan and 'The Unix Way'
Links for the day
IBM to Be 'Reorganised'
The rich look for ways to 'monetise' what's left IBM
Dr. Andy Farnell Explains Why He'll Stop Sending E-mail to Microsoft and Gmail Users
The article is long and well worth reading
Over at Tux Machines...
GNU/Linux news for the past day
IRC Proceedings: Saturday, January 10, 2026
IRC logs for Saturday, January 10, 2026