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schestowitzHey there, blackrabbit.Jul 22 05:41
blackrabbithello schestowitz how are you todayJul 22 05:41
schestowitzIt's early, so still waiting for sunrise. There's lots of trolling an slurs in USENET (seen minutes ago)Jul 22 05:43
blackrabbitI'd sooner drink bleach than post on usenetJul 22 05:44
schestowitzWhy? All of USENET or just COL[X] groups?Jul 22 05:45
blackrabbittoo much noise thereJul 22 05:45
schestowitzDepends where. I used to post in low-traffic NGs prior to 2006.Jul 22 05:46
blackrabbitA few retain interesting posts, the majority are noiseJul 22 05:47
*blackrabbit nibbles on the fresh green grassJul 22 05:48
schestowitzThe responsiveness there is good nonetheless. I like USENET because Web forums don't have a UI in your desktop, too.Jul 22 05:48
blackrabbitI despise web forumsJul 22 05:49
schestowitzOne day they can vanish.Jul 22 05:51
blackrabbitI enjoyed your post about Microsoft's financial nose diveJul 22 05:54
blackrabbitThough won't they continue to "feed" from Linux-pact tie ins?Jul 22 05:54
schestowitzOnly Novell really, but coupon deals seem to be on the decline (fewer announcements). Linspire is now kaput and Xandros doesn't sell much... ASUS probably pays them nothing.Jul 22 05:55
blackrabbitXandros sells on the eee?Jul 22 05:58
blackrabbitThe story on Novell recommending IE was a laugh tooJul 22 05:58
blackrabbitLinspire is completely dead?Jul 22 05:58
schestowitzLlinspire gave up (well, the president did) and tried to make it look better.Jul 22 05:59
blackrabbitI'm curious how Microsoft will "handle" Ubuntu, since it seems to be the bold and unrelenting "free" distro, apart from Red Hat, that is.Jul 22 05:59
blackrabbitWell, there is the codec tie in with Dell, that could be one wayJul 22 05:59
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blackrabbitThe president of Linspire gave up, but where does the company go from there?Jul 22 06:00
RogerBaconhey ;)Jul 22 06:00
schestowitzShuttleowrth has spoken to Microsoft about this for almost 6 months.Jul 22 06:00
blackrabbitOh? Is this hand in hand collaboration between Shuttleworth and Microsoft?Jul 22 06:00
schestowitzThat's why he's now refusing to attack Microsoft in public, IMHO. Same with Zemlin and Linus... they become cowards like most OEMs.Jul 22 06:00
blackrabbitIt mentions codecs, but also DVD working, what is used to enable DVD playback exactly in Dell's Ubuntu systems?Jul 22 06:01
schestowitzHey. RogerBacon Jul 22 06:01
schestowitzLinspire sold it assets. It doesn't truly exist now. Some staff will stay  though.Jul 22 06:01
blackrabbitWowJul 22 06:01
blackrabbitSo CnR is dead, too?Jul 22 06:01
blackrabbitWhat a wasteJul 22 06:02
schestowitzNo, Xandros owns it.Jul 22 06:02
schestowitzThey might even put it in Xandros.Jul 22 06:02
blackrabbitOhJul 22 06:02
RogerBaconred hat entreprise linux or suse linux server ?Jul 22 06:02
schestowitzRed Hat probably... but there are clones.Jul 22 06:02
blackrabbitschestowitz, what is Dell's Ubuntu systems using for DVD playback? Are they using the one known Linux DVD player available with OEM but not for retail sales? Or something else?Jul 22 06:03
blackrabbitI'm aware of one DVD player for Linux, which is only sold with hardwareJul 22 06:03
blackrabbitone *legal* DVD playerJul 22 06:03
schestowitzThey use LinDVD.Jul 22 06:04
schestowitzThey began using it with 7.10, IIRC.Jul 22 06:04
blackrabbitThat's it, I believe.Jul 22 06:04
blackrabbitProprietary, right?Jul 22 06:04
schestowitzI had an argument with Jeff Waugh over this. He's a 'pragmatist' (propaganda term, it would seem.Jul 22 06:05
blackrabbitHave you used it?Jul 22 06:05
blackrabbitSo would you assume, if not declare, Shuttleworth is in cahoots with Microsoft now, if not indirectly?Jul 22 06:05
schestowitzNo, I wouldn't either. It's proprietary. My new PC has a DVD burner but I doubt I'll ever use DVD.Jul 22 06:05
blackrabbitSince it sounds like there is some form of business agreement with them, if what you say is true.Jul 22 06:06
schestowitzNo.Jul 22 06:06
schestowitzMark deals with a company that packages Microsoft codecs. He's concerned about the need for codecs. I could search my In box and get your the details.Jul 22 06:06
blackrabbitIf they would ditch Ballmer, Microsoft, in my opinion, would do well to support major Linux distros with their software, I don't see why they wouldn't, it could be to their advantage.Jul 22 06:07
blackrabbitOr do you believe the problems to run much deeper than the figurehead?Jul 22 06:07
blackrabbitCorrect, the codecs issue is staggering.Jul 22 06:07
schestowitzThey gamble here.Jul 22 06:07
blackrabbitWhy companies and governments don't adopt free solutions is beyond meJul 22 06:08
blackrabbitGranted, it's rooted in capitalism and greedJul 22 06:08
schestowitzThey thin they can ignore Red hat and GNU/Linux as a host and then come out winning.Jul 22 06:08
schestowitz*thinkJul 22 06:08
blackrabbitmore money to gain from proprietary adoptionJul 22 06:08
schestowitzGovernments are run by CIOs like Richard Steele on the IT front.Jul 22 06:09
blackrabbitWhy are people tolerating Novell's contributions?Jul 22 06:09
schestowitzThe CIOs are owned (sometimes bribed the soft way) by the likes of Microsoft, Gartner, etc.Jul 22 06:09
schestowitzPeople want to believe Novell is 'safe'. Well Mandriva collaborated with Turbolinux now on RPMs.Jul 22 06:10
blackrabbitIs Mandriva relevant anymore?Jul 22 06:11
schestowitzYes, very much so.Jul 22 06:11
blackrabbitWhat are your thoughts on:Jul 22 06:11
blackrabbit 22 06:11
schestowitz(Posted from a Mandriva box)Jul 22 06:11
blackrabbithehJul 22 06:12
blackrabbitWhy is Mandriva your choice?Jul 22 06:12
schestowitzGael needs publicity, I guess. He E-mailed me some times in the past. He could also use more developers (team size).Jul 22 06:12
schestowitzMandriva.. well, I like changing distros when I install something. If I don't explore, I'll never manage to compare.Jul 22 06:13
blackrabbitYes, it's always good to test the distrosJul 22 06:13
schestowitzI got a message from the editor at JupiterMedia. I'll publish a review of KDE 4.1 when it's out (next week)Jul 22 06:13
blackrabbitI play with livecds more than installsJul 22 06:14
blackrabbitGood, 4 was buggyJul 22 06:14
blackrabbitI've always found KDE to be buggy compared to GnomeJul 22 06:14
schestowitzFor KDE 4.1 it's almost essential (live session) at this stageJul 22 06:14
blackrabbitcan you resize the panel?Jul 22 06:15
schestowitzNo bugs here really, unless I enable Compiz which is integrated less seamlessly to KDE.Jul 22 06:15
schestowitzblackrabbit: in KDE you can change *everything* on the system.Jul 22 06:16
blackrabbitDo you use Compiz?Jul 22 06:16
blackrabbitI found Compiz to be like cartoons, good for kids but not for my productivity as an adultJul 22 06:16
blackrabbitI ask because when I first tried KDE4, I couldn't resize the panelJul 22 06:16
schestowitzAt the moment I do, but if I say so, then the Novell developers would ask me to stop.Jul 22 06:17
blackrabbitDo you have Novell developers reading these chats and your site?Jul 22 06:17
schestowitzKDE 4 is "developer preview" in my eyes. It's like "watch this space and develop for it before it hits prime time".Jul 22 06:17
schestowitzIt was the same with KDE 3.0Jul 22 06:17
blackrabbitYes, this is what I take KDE4 to beJul 22 06:18
schestowitzI used 3.1 between 2003 and 2007, so I can see the difference.Jul 22 06:18
schestowitzNovell employees do read the site. Some are just being coy. Since Compiz is sometimes attributed to Novell, they ask about it. I 've only used it for weeks.Jul 22 06:19
blackrabbitschestowitz, always a pleasure, I wish you well, I have to be on my wayJul 22 06:25
schestowitzSee you soon.Jul 22 06:26
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schestowitzI've just noticed that Datamation and LT had begun putting Microsoft ads. I might just have to stop writing for them. As for Digg, there are now girls and videos in every page (Microsoft advertising). Must be some heavy ad campaign from Redmond. The Web is selling out.Jul 22 07:20
schestowitzJust checked... . Yes, it's everywhere. Jupitermedia (LinuxToday, Datamation, and many more) have just begun giving more space to Microsoft ads. Lots of them. Even in the Linux sites, if not particularly there. I don't think I'll write for them anymore. :-(Jul 22 07:32
kentmaIt looks like a final Microsoft drive to sell Vista.  Can't see it working, but time will tell.  I don't think most people care much about PCs any more - it's a mobile world now.Jul 22 07:40
schestowitzWell, the ones I see now are about VMs and VoIP. I first noticed this in LinusToday. Then I went to Konqueror, which unlike Thunderbird and Firefox hasn't any ad blockers.Jul 22 07:42
schestowitzI'd hate to throw away my ability to write columns, but as long as those ads are there, I won't contribute. I'll tell the editor, too.Jul 22 07:43
kentmaThe VoIP push is about their "unified comms" server, which integrates exchange directory, email and their messenger with a VoIP client and softswitch.  They're aiming at the remaining TDM PBXs as well as the Cisco CCM markets - it's not helped by people who "believe" all kinds of rubbish about VoIP.Jul 22 07:45
schestowitzThere's a unified comms app that's Linux based.Jul 22 07:45
schestowitzOne or two, IIRC. One is in the making.Jul 22 07:45
kentmaI'm not at all against the principle, indeed, one of the reasons I work in telecoms is because I've always been interested in "connecting things together".  The Microsoft push, though, is to gain leverage from their existing installed base of Exchange, by increasing the exit barrier in the long-term, but "saving money" in the short term by staying with exchange.Jul 22 07:47
kentmaA sensible exit strategy for most companies would be to source an exchange replacement, an MSN replacement and then install whatever PBX solution they like (personally, I like Asterisk, but there we go).  Of course, if  you already have 20,000 people on an existing system, migration is no small task.Jul 22 07:48
schestowitzYes, that's what competitors complained about when it comes to this Microsoft push. Microsoft only plays with its own Lego bricks. I guess I won't publish for quite some time to come. I used to criticise writers for feeding the anti-Linux ads. It would be hypocritical for me to take the same route.Jul 22 07:49
kentmaYou must do what you believe is correct, Roy!Jul 22 07:50
schestowitzBTW, Nortel aligned with Microsoft on telecomms shortly after it had considered Linux for all staff.Jul 22 07:50
kentmawhat particularly was that?Jul 22 07:52
schestowitzI'd have to check.Jul 22 07:52
schestowitzThey are still collaborating though.Jul 22 07:52
kentmaTheir old PBX is meridian,  but they have a new IP-based one called CS3k, the CS2k is their replacement for the DMS100 class-4 switch.   They come under teh general banner of "succession" and are designed to integrate with their existing range.  I would have thought that they'd stick with their own products here?Jul 22 07:55
schestowitzHave a look here: As I suspected, it's unified comms that they work on, too.Jul 22 07:56
schestowitzI think Cisco-Microsoft is on the ropes because Microsoft wants to eat Cisco's lunch.Jul 22 07:56
kentmaAnd vice-versa.  Btw, I said CS3k when I meant CS1k above... sorry.  I know Nortel and MS have been swapping people over the last 3 or 4 years which has probably lead to some of the alliance mentioned in those articles.Jul 22 07:58
kentmaCisco will be taken apart by low-cost routers and PBB-TE over time, although some operators have decided on another round of MPLS, which will help keep Cisco afloat for longer.Jul 22 07:58
schestowitzI thought they did well with Chambers. Good reports and all, but they stopped hiring, IIRC, so there's deflation.Jul 22 08:00
schestowitzBTW: One thing I've learned about Linux sites is that editors/publishers want provocation (like emotional elements that drawn in angry/fearful users). They live by the ads, not the integrity and defence of freedom. As for Microsoft facts, they are either "irrelevant" or "not substantiated".Jul 22 08:01
kentmaThey had a lot of growth planning pinned on CCM, but most companies have realised by now that in order to do VoIP PBXs internally, they also had to upgrade all of their routers and network bandwidth, since VoIP is about 10x less efficient than TDM transport for voice.Jul 22 08:01
kentmaAh, interesting, although perhaps not all that surprising.  This is, perhaps, part of our "dumbed-down" culture.Jul 22 08:02
schestowitzWell, publication = business.Jul 22 08:03
schestowitzIt's money, not information.Jul 22 08:03
schestowitzLemmie find something I saw earlier. It reminded me of a BIG BUSINE$$ called ISO.Jul 22 08:03
kentmaAh - "ISO Sold Out"  a good recursive acronym :-)Jul 22 08:05
schestowitzOh, that's the one from  the news: ("American physicists warned not to debate global warming")Jul 22 08:05
schestowitzMS can be another recursive acronym.. Lot of verbs starting with an S.Jul 22 08:06
kentmaWow - I think we'd better stick with the Royal Society!  that's amazing.  On such things, I saw a Monsanto add yesterday trying to pass-off their GM weedkiller as "we got this from nature", err, no, you didn't!Jul 22 08:08
schestowitzWait until the IEEE starts renting some 'ad space' as open access and online articles end paper and subs.Jul 22 08:09
kentmaWell, I'm catching up with Digests, only about another week to do :-)Jul 22 08:10
schestowitz*LOL* Well, Timmy seems to have been stalking a little. He's searching you on G2... and confessed in  COLA.Jul 22 08:10
kentmaOdd thing to do - why's he doing that?Jul 22 08:12
tessiertimmay!Jul 22 08:13
schestowitzInvestigation. He probably tried to come up with some accusation. He's still 'shadowing' me in Digg and attacking me in comments.Jul 22 08:13
schestowitztessier: you know 'Tim Smith', right?Jul 22 08:14
tessierNopeJul 22 08:14
schestowitzhe's posting in  Digg and Slashdot too under harlow_monkeys and harlowmonkeys.Jul 22 08:14
schestowitztessier: Tim from COLA? No?Jul 22 08:14
schestowitzI know that he works for a company that does some routing or forwarding with Microsoft.Jul 22 08:15
tessierI really don't pay any attention to the cola trollsJul 22 08:15
schestowitzSomething like thin clients.Jul 22 08:15
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kentmahi again - something odd happened here...Jul 22 08:35
schestowitzIRC you mean?Jul 22 08:35
kentmaindeed.  I think it was my end, though.  IP is great, but it has zero maintenance facilities, so it's exceptionally difficult to find faults.Jul 22 08:36
schestowitzIt has pingback :-)Jul 22 08:38
kentmaindeed, except that's ICMP...Jul 22 08:39
schestowitzLoopback rather, but the idea is similar.Jul 22 08:39
kentmalots of machines don't support ping deliberately, too.Jul 22 08:39
schestowitzLots won't respond to them by default.Jul 22 08:39
schestowitzmandriva 2008.1 is amazingly string when it comes to received packets, unless you massage it.Jul 22 08:40
schestowitz*strictJul 22 08:40
kentmaIt's a feature of connectionless networks.  cl-ps (connectionless packet switching, like IP) can have very little maintenance facility, because of the lack of connections.  You need to rely on the underlying server network.  Unfortunately, all too often, this is ethernet, which is about as bad as IP in its raw form.Jul 22 08:41
kentmaI've got a thompson router here which ignores pings.  I've yet to find a way to get the thing to respond :-)Jul 22 08:43
kentmajust seen this:  Kernel space: Multiqueue networkingJul 22 08:44
schestowitzYes.Jul 22 08:44
schestowitzThey have some new stuff in the kernel.Jul 22 08:44
schestowitzIf only they had big banners and acrobats dancing with slogans like "innovation!" and "wow"...Jul 22 08:45
schestowitzI've just noticed that your script for digests does not generate summaries. Is this due to PGP?Jul 22 08:47
kentmaSorry, what have you seen?Jul 22 08:48
schestowitzIn today's digest we have: [empty]Jul 22 08:48
kentmaohh sh*t, I see - I hadn't noticed that!Jul 22 08:48
kentmadoh!Jul 22 08:48
kentmaHmm, best take a look and see what I've done.Jul 22 08:48
kentmaahhh, I think I've found the offending bit.Jul 22 08:52
schestowitzMe?Jul 22 08:52
kentma:-)Jul 22 08:52
kentmamy own fault, I fixed a minor problem but obviously didn't check my fix well enough.Jul 22 08:54
kentmaokay, fixed it now.  I'll catch up and then go back to the ones I got wrong when I get time...Jul 22 09:06
kentmathanks very much for pointing it out, though.Jul 22 09:06
schestowitzNo problem. Thanks for posting these. Some journalists use these to pick up their references (esp. the related links may help)Jul 22 09:07
schestowitzSome are always lurking by the way. For the first time a while ago, Fernando Cassia raised his head for condolences over the death of Joe Barr. The Inquirer people read it and Charlie even 'stole' "MEII" from [H]omer.Jul 22 09:09
kentmaHomer's ME2 was an excellent idea.Jul 22 09:09
schestowitztessir might wish to see 22 09:10
schestowitz"What phone have you got there? What distro (spin) does it run?" A: "Oh, it dual-boots an Enlightenment spin and one is just filled with games"Jul 22 09:13
kentmaAs soon as there's a 3G FreeRunner, I'll have one.Jul 22 09:17
schestowitzWe're entering a phase of distros for telephones!Jul 22 09:18
schestowitzDon't like your phone? Try a different distro for it rather than buy a new phone.Jul 22 09:18
kentmaIt lines up closely with my view that the desktop is yesterday's technology - mobility is the key.  As you say, once the phone's "open", then we can have all kinds of fun.  Note, though, that phone manufacturers rely on most people changing their phone every 6 mos...Jul 22 09:19
schestowitzWell, the OpenMoko *is* a computerJul 22 09:20
schestowitzIt's a 'desktop' just like a laptop is -- whatever the definition du jour might be.Jul 22 09:20
kentmaah, no, I must protest... mobility is about people moving around, whereas a desktop PC is meant to stay in one place.  In the desktop model, people move between terminals, in the mobility model, they /take/ their terminal.  It's a fundamental and critical difference in approach.Jul 22 09:21
schestowitzNice way of putting it. Is it from your speech?Jul 22 09:22
kentmaone of many :-0Jul 22 09:23
kentmaheheJul 22 09:23
schestowitzI might just start hacking on my Palm soon. I hardly use it anymore, not even as a calendar.Jul 22 09:24
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schestowitzThanks, wait... I have E-mail too.Jul 22 10:02
schestowitz(Oh, multiple recipients) One thing I know for sure is that 'push TV' will be replaced with 'pull TV'like YouTube. VoD is too limited to satisfy people's needs and YouTube is already integrated in to devices like Neuros. Price plays a role.Jul 22 10:05
schestowitzTribler is a binary. I could just 'pull a Real' and spy on the user, probe the driver and who knows what else. Isn't Democracy TV (Miro) a good alternative?Jul 22 10:07
kentmatribbler is ossJul 22 10:08
kentma 22 10:08
schestowitzI see now. It's Python.Jul 22 10:10
*schestowitz looks for the executableJul 22 10:10
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kentmap2p trial here: 22 10:28
schestowitzI tried finding it in my repo, but nothing is there yet. I needed to install some more softwareJul 22 10:29
kentmaif you install the tribler binary (ubuntu) and then the swarm binary, then it'll work.  you need to add their hardy repo in order to get the python-vlc package in order to see some of the videos.Jul 22 10:32
schestowitzI don't use Ubuntu though.Jul 22 10:37
schestowitzBut that's not the issue. I don't know if I really require this application./Jul 22 10:37
kentmaIt's more about the p2p television distribution which was interesting to me.Jul 22 10:38
schestowitzI'm on 100MBit LAN, but I guess if it's peer-based, then you rely on th other end's speed.Jul 22 10:39
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kentmait's a torrent-like system, so it's relying on the speed of multiple users, at least in principle, anyway.  It looks interesting, and is probably how the BBC should've done iPlayer in the first place, rather than the nasty MS system they used.Jul 22 12:10
schestowitzThe iPlayer could become another botnet. They have no control over the code. Wait until vulnerabilities surface and worms passed via iPlayer.Jul 22 12:15
kentmaunless it just dies.  The Flash version is much more popular, and at least is supported across more than just 1 platform, but it can't do p2p at all.  the BBC cot themselves into a total mess on this.Jul 22 12:17
schestowitzThey are like ISO in that respect. They try to throw sand at the evidence and have time 'heal the wounds' of loud protests and calls for sacking. It's the same with governments really. If iPlayer becomes a vehicle of malware, scrutiny will return.Jul 22 12:19
schestowitz "Of course, ISO’s officials attitude to recommend a straight dismissal isn’t helping the matter either. Although they are definitely being consistent I’m afraid in this case they are just being consistently wrong. They remind me of these abusive governments that spend their time trying to shush the opposition rather than understand it. They should know better thoJul 22 12:20
schestowitzugh.Jul 22 12:20
schestowitz"Jul 22 12:20
kentmayou had a quiet day posting on Sunday, Roy!Jul 22 12:20
kentmaISO are in a complete mess now.  I was more than a little disgusted to see that the British Library is still funding Microsoft through ISO and ECMA.  that's *my* money, and I do *not* agree with this.Jul 22 12:21
schestowitzYes, I ran lots of stuff on the Fedora clusters. Been busy that day. Jul 22 12:21
kentmaI've got the summary listing back into the newer digests, and I've posted follow-ups to the ones I'd already posted with just a summary listing, which isn't ideal, but is probably better than reposting the whole digest, as they're rather large.  I think I've got them all, now!Jul 22 14:26
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schestowitzTa, Mark!Jul 22 15:23
kentma - take a look at Glen Sieler on wind river...Jul 22 15:24
schestowitzThe Engoneering mags had a couple of article about them yesterday.Jul 22 15:29
schestowitz*articles *engineeringJul 22 15:29
kentmaah, okay.  I know Glen, he's a nice guy, in fact, he comes over in the video pretty much as he is personally.  I think he's leading on Carrier Grade at the moment.Jul 22 15:31
kentmaI'm seeing that Red Hat are unlikely to ever go for CGL certification, and Novell might well pull away.Jul 22 15:32
kentmaThis will leave the field open for Wind River and MontaVista.Jul 22 15:32
schestowitzMontaVista had some head changes recently.Jul 22 15:36
schestowitzFirst it was the CEO and now the marketing VP. But Jim remains Jim and also the main brain and motor.Jul 22 15:36
kentmayeah, I know a couple of MontaVista chaps, too.  I think that if they can sit-out the death of the proprietary embedded OS, then they'll be in good shape, but it'll take a while.Jul 22 15:37
schestowitzPropeller 2.0 has just been launched. 22 15:41
schestowitzCan't believe I had the same 2-year-old introduction there until now... it said "My name is Roy Schestowitz and I am a Ph.D. Candidate in Medical Biophysics at Manchester University. I regularly blog at my site where you can read about my interests, hobbies, opinions and pet peeves."Jul 22 15:41
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kentmaah, I thought that maybe you'd banned yourself :-)Jul 22 15:43
schestowitzI thought [H]omer had plonked me for kicks.Jul 22 15:44
kentmaBtw Roy, have you been following the Sats disaster with ETS Europe?  This is a classic example of cash leaving the UK to a US company which has utterly failed to deliver.Jul 22 15:50
kentmaMy no1 son is due to start GCSEs next year, and yet he still does not have his final assessment for this year.  Term ends today.Jul 22 15:51
kentmaThey have a contract with €£154 millions (yes really!), look here: 22 15:53
kentmasorry, worth not with.Jul 22 15:53
kentmaThis is a cracking example of where an open-source solution should be the basis (INGOTS?) rather than the current QCA system, and there's no reasonable reason at all for offshoring this, particularly to an expensive country like the US.Jul 22 15:55
*schestowitz looks (was away)Jul 22 16:13
schestowitz"The company responsible for the Sats exam marking fiasco has revealed it has been trying to clear a huge backlog by paying for staff to live and work in hotels across the country." Reminds me of the Seinfeld episode where Elaine takes a fancy hotel room at the company's expanse and then loses her job. They party with the budget.Jul 22 16:15
kentma:-)Jul 22 16:15
schestowitz*expense      Well, SCO does this too. It doesn't want Novell to get a penny so it's spending like there's no tomorrow.Jul 22 16:16
schestowitzWatch this: "newsgroups _______thought_________- to be fiddling about with child pornography."Jul 22 16:17
schestowitzSee? They always use pedophiles and terrorism as an excuse to kill medium they don't like. They just expand scope over time. Wait until political sites count as pr0n.Jul 22 16:18
kentmaabsurd...Jul 22 16:21
schestowitzWatch the comments too.Jul 22 16:21
schestowitzI'll post this to COLA later. Jul 22 16:22
schestowitzCoca Cola "mat contain rat" in 0.001% of the cases, so let's ban that too.Jul 22 16:22
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schestowitzWatch the trolls take their libel to LinuxToday: 22 18:06
schestowitzSurely one of the trolls from COLAJul 22 18:06
schestowitzkentma: I am pretty sure it's one of the preps from  USENET using libel here... They attack the editord when they link to me... Have you had similar experiences? How can it be dealt with?Jul 22 18:22
kentmaschestowitz: show me again tomorrow...Jul 22 20:13
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In this extract from his new book When Google Met Wikileaks, WikiLeaks' publisher Julian Assange describes the special relationship between Google, Hillary Clinton and the State Department -- and what that means for the future of the internet
Julian Assange: Factual Timeline From an Online Friend
a friend's account
Breaking News: Assange Wins Right to Challenge Extradition to the US
This is great news, but maybe the full legal text will reveal some caveat
Brittany Day, Plagiarist in Chief (Chatbot Slinger)
3 articles in the front page of right now are chatbot spew
Guardian Digital, Inc ( Has Resorted to Plagiarism by Chatbots, Flooding the World Wide Web With Fake 'Articles' Wrongly Attributed to Brittany Day
Red Hat Loves Microsoft Monopoly (and Proprietary Surveillance With Back Doors)
full posting history in
[Video] Just Let Julian Assange Go Back to Australia
Assange needs to be freed
Microsoft Windows Used to Have Nearly 100% in China and Now Google Has 50% (With Android)
Will China bring about a faster "fall" for Microsoft?
The WWW declares the end of Google
Reprinted with permission from Cyber|Show
Gemini Links 20/05/2024: CMSs and Lua "Post to" Script Alternative
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Brodie Robertson - Never Criticise The Linux Foundation Expenses (With Transcript)
Transcript included
Links 20/05/2024: Protests and Aggression by Beijing
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Can an election campaign succeed without social media accounts?
Reprinted with permission from Daniel Pocock
Fact check: relation to Julian Assange, founded Wikileaks at University of Melbourne and Arjen Kamphuis
Reprinted with permission from Daniel Pocock
Gambia: Windows Down to 5% Overall, 50% on Desktops/Laptops
Windows was measured at 94% in 2015
Links 20/05/2024: Microsoft Layoffs and Shutdowns, RTO as Silent Layoffs
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The Issue With Junk Traffic in Geminispace (Gemini Protocol)
Some people have openly complained that their capsule was getting hammered by bot
Peter Eckersley, Laura Smyth & the rushed closure of dial-up Internet in Australian universities
Reprinted with permission from Daniel Pocock
[Meme] Bullying the Victims
IBM: crybully of the year 2024
Ian.Community Should be Safer From Trademark Censorship
We wish to discuss this matter very quickly
Microsoft and Its Vicious Attack Dogs (Attacking Women or Wives in Particular)
Sad, pathetic, destructive people
Upcoming Series About the Campaign to 'Disappear' the Father of GNU/Linux
Today we have Julian Assange's fate to focus on
A Month From Now Gemini Protocol Turns 5
June 20
Colombia: From Less Than 0.5% to Nearly 4% for GNU/Linux
it's not limited to this one country
Rumour: Well Overdue Red Hat Layoffs to be Announced in About 3 Days
we know they've planned the layoffs for a while
Over at Tux Machines...
GNU/Linux news for the past day
IRC Proceedings: Sunday, May 19, 2024
IRC logs for Sunday, May 19, 2024
Gemini Links 20/05/2024: Updated Noto Fontpacks and gemfeed2atom
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GNU/Linux in Georgia: Looking Good
Windows down from 99% to less than 33%
Tomorrow is a Historic Day for Press Freedom in the UK
Take note of the Julian Assange case
Hiding in a Forest Without a Phone and Hiding Behind the First Amendment in the United States (US)
some serial defamer is trying to invert the narrative
Links 19/05/2024: Iran's President Lost in Helicopter Crash, WikiLeaks’ Julian Assange Awaits Decisions in Less Than a Day
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Links 19/05/2024: Microsoft Investigated in Europe
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4 Old Articles About Microsoft/IBM SystemD
old but still relevant
Firefox Has Fallen to 2% in New Zealand
At around 2%, at least in the US (2% or below this threshold), there's no longer an obligation to test sites for any Gecko-based browser
Winning Streak
Free software prevalence
Links 19/05/2024: Conflicts, The Press, and Spotify Lawsuit
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GNU/Linux+ChromeOS at Over 7% in New Zealand
It's also the home of several prominent GNU/Linux advocates (Libera Chat) Turns 3 Today
Freenode in the meantime continues to disintegrate
[Teaser] Freenode NDA Expires in a Few Weeks (What Really Happened 3 Years Ago)
get ready
GNU/Linux is Already Mainstream, But Microsoft is Still Trying to Sabotage That With Illegal Activities and Malicious Campaigns of Lies
To help GNU/Linux grow we'll need to tackle tough issues and recognise Microsoft is a vicious obstacle
Slovenia's Adoption of GNU/Linux in 2024
Whatever the factor/s may be, if these figures are true, then it's something to keep an eye on in the future
Over at Tux Machines...
GNU/Linux news for the past day
IRC Proceedings: Saturday, May 18, 2024
IRC logs for Saturday, May 18, 2024
Links 19/05/2024: Profectus Beta 1.2
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Site Archives (Not WordPress)
We've finally finished the work
[Meme] The EPO Delusion
on New Ways of Working
EPO Representatives Outline Latest Attacks on Staff
Not much has happened recently in terms of industrial action
Links 18/05/2024: Revisiting the Harms of Patent Trolls, Google Tries to Bypass (or Plagiarise) Sites Under the Guise of "AI"
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Links 18/05/2024: BASIC Story, Site Feeds, and New in Geminispace
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GNU/Linux in Kyrgyzstan: From 0.5% to 5% in Eight Years
the country is almost the size of the UK
Justice for Victims of Online Abuse
The claims asserted or pushed forth by the harasser are categorically denied
[Meme] Senior Software Engineer for Windows
This is becoming like another Novell
Links 18/05/2024: Deterioration of the Net, North Korean IT Workers in the US
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Windows in Lebanon: Down to 12%?
latest from statCounter
[Video] 'Late Stage Capitalism': Microsoft as an Elaborate Ponzi Scheme (Faking 'Demand' While Portraying the Fraud as an Act of Generosity and Demanding Bailouts)
Being able to express or explain the facts isn't easy because of the buzzwords
Links 18/05/2024: Caledonia Emergency Powers, "UK Prosecutor's Office Went Too Far in the Assange Case"
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Microsoft ("a Dying Megacorporation that Does Not Create") and IBM: An Era of Dying Giants With Leadership Deficits and Corporate Bailouts (Subsidies From Taxpayers)
Microsoft seems to be resorting to lots of bribes and chasing of bailouts (i.e. money from taxpayers worldwide)
US Patent and Trademark Office Sends Out a Warning to People Who Do Not Use Microsoft's Proprietary Formats
They're punishing people who wish to use open formats
Links 18/05/2024: Fury in Microsoft Over Studio Shutdowns, More Gaming Layoffs
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Over at Tux Machines...
GNU/Linux news for the past day
IRC Proceedings: Friday, May 17, 2024
IRC logs for Friday, May 17, 2024
Links 18/05/2024: KOReader, Benben v0.5.0 Progress Update, and More
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