| PetoKraus | right, time to sleep. Nice chat today. See you tomorrow | Nov 24 00:02 |
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| MinceR | gn | Nov 24 00:03 |
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| Eruaran | nite | Nov 24 00:03 |
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| *schestowitz atches up with http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=... (almost 400 comments) | Nov 24 00:04 |
| schestowitz | g | Nov 24 00:04 |
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| schestowitz | n | Nov 24 00:04 |
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| schestowitz | trmanco: Bruno's letter got promoted: http://www.fsdaily.com/Opposition/Open_Letter... | Nov 24 00:11 |
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| schestowitz | Earlier I made some remark about Obama and privacy, so this new remark from RMS is interesting: http://www.stallman.org/archives/2008-sep-d...) "If phone company employes were not punished for checking who Obama called, can you trust them not to check (and tell) who you call?" | Nov 24 00:13 |
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| schestowitz | Hollywood Goes to War < http://www.prwatch.org/node/7948 > | Nov 24 00:15 |
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| Eruaran | Stop posting links Roy ! I'm not getting any work done ! :P | Nov 24 00:17 |
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| schestowitz | Okay, I'll go to USENET | Nov 24 00:20 |
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| Eruaran | :P | Nov 24 00:21 |
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| *schestowitz a bit bored | Nov 24 00:21 |
| Eruaran | usenet is just asking for trouble | Nov 24 00:22 |
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| schestowitz | Trouble resolves boredom | Nov 24 00:22 |
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| Eruaran | heh | Nov 24 00:22 |
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| twitter | Eruaran, print to pdf send results to printer. | Nov 24 00:25 |
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| Eruaran | I do | Nov 24 00:26 |
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| twitter | should work then. apt-get remove excel | Nov 24 00:26 |
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| Eruaran | hehe | Nov 24 00:26 |
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| Eruaran | no can do I'm on Winblowz here at work atm | Nov 24 00:26 |
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| Eruaran | calc is more productive | Nov 24 00:27 |
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| twitter | I feel your pain | Nov 24 00:27 |
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| twitter | gnumeric is even nicer | Nov 24 00:28 |
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| twitter | for routine graphing, go with gnuplot | Nov 24 00:28 |
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| Eruaran | that reminds me | Nov 24 00:28 |
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| twitter | that works with winblows, I think | Nov 24 00:28 |
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| *schestowitz hasn't touched Excel for 6 years | Nov 24 00:28 |
| Eruaran | gotta give the new koffice a whirl | Nov 24 00:28 |
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| schestowitz | I had to produce some Gantt chart in a public cluster | Nov 24 00:29 |
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| twitter | KDE seems to have a library for doing that. There's planner and opensched to do it as well. Have not needed that in 7 years. | Nov 24 00:32 |
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| twitter | dinner time. | Nov 24 00:32 |
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| twitter | Glad you enjoyed Matt, Roy. Those videos are very hopeful and beautiful things. It's like the whole world can live in peace and be happy. | Nov 24 00:33 |
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| Eruaran | Someone mentioned that KOffice looks like iWork... I had a look and yes, it does resemble iWork | Nov 24 00:33 |
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| schestowitz | But it supports ODF, not MOOX | Nov 24 00:37 |
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| Eruaran | ODF I like | Nov 24 00:37 |
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| schestowitz | 2am, bed time... | Nov 24 01:42 |
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| Eruaran | nite | Nov 24 01:55 |
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| schestowitz | "The billionaire bankers bailout was not well received in the US by Joe Sixpack. Despite a 99 to 1 "vote no!" constituent response, the bailout went forward. That's the US. " < http://technocrat.net/d/2... > | Nov 24 08:00 |
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| kentma1 | That's because the official line on government intervention is a tiny little bit different to the real one... | Nov 24 08:01 |
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| schestowitz | It's better to let the 'small people' pay so that 'bug people' can carry on hoarding and collect big bonuses. | Nov 24 08:02 |
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| schestowitz | Nader on socialism for the rich (AKA bailout): http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=iVDPxVy7h38 | Nov 24 08:47 |
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| MinceR | geekings | Nov 24 08:48 |
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| schestowitz | Manufactured consent (for Vista 7): http://news.softpedia.com/news/Microsoft-Good-... | Nov 24 09:26 |
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| schestowitz | The Vole keeps harming Y! Yahoo Sells Kelkoo To Private-Equity Firm < http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articl... > ; | Nov 24 09:42 |
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| schestowitz | http://news.cnet.com/8301-1080... | Nov 24 09:42 |
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| schestowitz | Ballmer deposition before Xmas: http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/micros... http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/154397/ju... http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/11/23/microso... | Nov 24 09:45 |
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| PetoKraus | bloody hell, i don't even wanna know what's my temperature. Good thing I don't have thermometer | Nov 24 09:46 |
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| PetoKraus | what does "deposition" mean? | Nov 24 09:46 |
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| schestowitz | Like interrogation. | Nov 24 09:47 |
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| schestowitz | Hard questions for discovery (legal term) | Nov 24 09:47 |
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| PetoKraus | aha | Nov 24 09:47 |
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| PetoKraus | i thought it means he'd be sacked. | Nov 24 09:47 |
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| schestowitz | Who would replace him? The company can't live without criminal behaviour. They need an aggressive crook in charge. | Nov 24 09:51 |
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| PetoKraus | neighborlee: since the case is in seattle, and i guess the courts are public - are you gonna go? :P | Nov 24 09:51 |
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| schestowitz | neighborlee is in Iowa, no? | Nov 24 09:51 |
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| PetoKraus | i thought he's in Wa | Nov 24 09:51 |
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| PetoKraus | i wanted to go to X summit in Edinburgh | Nov 24 09:52 |
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| PetoKraus | well, i dunno if it was public, but i would find out if i was in Scotland at that time | Nov 24 09:52 |
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| schestowitz | Judge orders Microsoft CEO to testify in lawsuit < http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financia... > | Nov 24 09:52 |
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| schestowitz | PetoKraus: the one in the zoo? | Nov 24 09:52 |
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| PetoKraus | yup | Nov 24 09:53 |
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| schestowitz | Monkey boy wanted to go there too. ;-) | Nov 24 09:53 |
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| PetoKraus | oh, did he | Nov 24 09:53 |
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| schestowitz | Interesting: seems like a Microsoft CEO just jumped ship: Microsoft appoints Leung as Greater China CEO < http://www.telecom.paper.nl/news/ar... > | Nov 24 09:54 |
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| schestowitz | Did the previous one leave then? Probably. They already lost a China boss less than a year ago... he went to NBA. | Nov 24 09:55 |
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| PetoKraus | only available to subscribers... could you print it to pdf, or pastebin? | Nov 24 09:55 |
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| schestowitz | Judge orders Ballmer to testify < http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business... > | Nov 24 09:56 |
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| schestowitz | PetoKraus: I can't read it either. I wish I could | Nov 24 09:56 |
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| PetoKraus | aha hmm | Nov 24 09:57 |
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| schestowitz | Damn. I can't STAND Barron's. Darn Microsoft boosting junk: http://online.barrons.com/article/SB12273123... | Nov 24 09:57 |
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| schestowitz | Other publications accused Barron's of being some kind of a lousy Microsoft booster. Fool is the same. | Nov 24 09:57 |
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| schestowitz | If only I could find this video I watched this morning about the old press the new press, which is almost always owned by corporations to serve them | Nov 24 09:58 |
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| PetoKraus | i don't want to move outta my bed :/ | Nov 24 09:58 |
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| schestowitz | *LOL* http://apcmag.com/Content.aspx?id=3203 | Nov 24 09:59 |
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| schestowitz | So that's what SteveB is doing when he doesn't use his schedule (an Excel spreadsheet, no kidding!) | Nov 24 10:00 |
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| schestowitz | *LOL* Microsoft has _already_ laid off people and now this thing says "Microsoft Exec Says No Layoffs Coming" < http://www.thestreet.com/story/1044... > | Nov 24 10:02 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.google.com/search?sou... Check out #1 and #2 results | Nov 24 10:04 |
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| schestowitz | The Gates Fundation [sic] does goes things like saving... errr... automobiles? http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsN... ( Gates raises stake in dealership AutoNation ) | Nov 24 10:07 |
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| schestowitz | http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122... ( GameStop Net Falls as Growth Slows ) | Nov 24 10:21 |
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| schestowitz | In Hindsight: 'Extreme pessimism' in the tech industry: Who could blame us? < http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_1... >. Black Friday starts in the US within hours | Nov 24 10:23 |
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| schestowitz | Very important future ref: http://www.internetnews.com/dev-news/article.php... ""I can't be more clear than to say you not only let us down by reneging on your commitment to stand behind the [device driver model] requirement, you have demonstrated a complete lack of commitment to HP as a strategic partner and cost us a lot of money in the process," said one e-mail from Richard Walker, the | Nov 24 10:24 |
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| schestowitz | senior vice president of HP's consumer business unit, to Jim Allchin and Kevin Johnson." | Nov 24 10:24 |
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| MinceR | but will this give HP a clue? | Nov 24 10:25 |
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| schestowitz | Kevin Johnson and Allchin both quit Microsoft. Will Poole too... what a DISASTER! | Nov 24 10:25 |
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| schestowitz | H-P is already messing about with more GNU Linux, macabe | Nov 24 10:25 |
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| schestowitz | Oops. MinceR | Nov 24 10:25 |
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| MinceR | :)) | Nov 24 10:25 |
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| MinceR | s/.$// | Nov 24 10:25 |
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| schestowitz | I should proofread | Nov 24 10:26 |
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| schestowitz | Only monkeys don't proofread: http://apcmag.com/Content.aspx?id=3203 | Nov 24 10:26 |
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| schestowitz | "Quite frankly, this reads more like an MSN chat transcript than a CEO trying to resolve a potentially major partner crisis. Memo to Steve: | Nov 24 10:26 |
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| schestowitz | * Full stops can make it much easier to read sentences. | Nov 24 10:26 |
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| schestowitz | * Please avoid meaningless phrases like "I am not even in the detail of the issues". | Nov 24 10:26 |
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| schestowitz | * Outlook has had a spelling and grammar checking facility for some time; using it more often might be sensible. After all, you never know when internal email might end up in a court document these days." | Nov 24 10:26 |
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| schestowitz | This one's disgusting: EDITORIAL: Schools must cash tech check: Unspent Microsoft settlement money is like an unclaimed lottery ticket. < http://www.tmcnet.com/usubmit/-editorial-schools-mu... >. Microsoft did the crime, but it still doesn't pay the fine. | Nov 24 10:27 |
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| PetoKraus | fuck life, i wanna die | Nov 24 10:27 |
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| PetoKraus | says me head. | Nov 24 10:27 |
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| schestowitz | I forwarded this to a friend who uses this money to deploy GNU/Linux at Bay Area schools... | Nov 24 10:27 |
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| PetoKraus | "this money?" | Nov 24 10:28 |
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| schestowitz | PetoKraus: head says stupid things when it's ill. | Nov 24 10:28 |
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| schestowitz | Hundreds of millions in fine. | Nov 24 10:28 |
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| schestowitz | *fines | Nov 24 10:28 |
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| schestowitz | This isn't the first such article. What a disaster.. the state got this compensation years ago, but it just keeps sitting in Microsoft's bank account. | Nov 24 10:28 |
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| PetoKraus | that bootup time, it's funny thing | Nov 24 10:42 |
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| PetoKraus | i had the same when working in callcentre | Nov 24 10:42 |
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| PetoKraus | i had to come like 15 minutes earlier so i'd power the XP machine on and launch the phone console | Nov 24 10:43 |
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| schestowitz | http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_... "More generally, these emails as well as the others demonstrate that Microsoft does a good job of managing the media, including analysts and reporters. I think it would be too strong to suggest that Microsoft manipulates the media; if anything, the emails reveal a collegial but respectful interaction with the media." | Nov 24 10:43 |
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| schestowitz | Gartner should be embragoed | Nov 24 10:43 |
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| schestowitz | The whole media is a big stinkin' joke. | Nov 24 10:43 |
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| PetoKraus | schestowitz: did you read about the nvidia "HPC desktop"? | Nov 24 10:43 |
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| schestowitz | Yes, but not much. | Nov 24 10:44 |
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| schestowitz | NVidia seems to be heading for the ashtray | Nov 24 10:44 |
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| PetoKraus | i read only the /. article | Nov 24 10:45 |
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| PetoKraus | it's interesting thing, though | Nov 24 10:45 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft's CTO quits! http://www.lightreading.com/blog.asp?b... | Nov 24 10:45 |
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| kentma | wow | Nov 24 10:46 |
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| PetoKraus | well quits | Nov 24 10:47 |
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| PetoKraus | i'd say he just went to better job | Nov 24 10:47 |
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| zoobab_ | who is the CTO? | Nov 24 10:48 |
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| PetoKraus | name to go is CTO Michel Burger | Nov 24 10:48 |
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| kentma | Michel Burger has given up trying to get carriers to adopt Microsoft's service creation frameworks (SCFs) and has joined Vodafone. | Nov 24 10:48 |
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| PetoKraus | this is nice: http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.... | Nov 24 10:49 |
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| PetoKraus | it's been linked on BN | Nov 24 10:49 |
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| PetoKraus | i totally agree, especially with the artistic part - photos, videos, writers...... I don't think I am good at any of these, but I know most people who think they are good really aren't. I know how much effort it takes to make a good video sequence (yet be it 5 minutes long); most of the youtube videos just make me sick by insensitive cut. | Nov 24 10:51 |
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| kentma | even getting decent rushes is hard. good editing is as much an art-form as anything mechanical. | Nov 24 10:52 |
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| PetoKraus | well... i'll just mention Alan Parsons and his take on Dark Side of the Moon | Nov 24 10:53 |
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| PetoKraus | without him, the album simply wouldn't be the same.... and he's "only" an excellent sound engineer and producer | Nov 24 10:53 |
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| kentma | Dark Side of the Moon is a brilliant achievement - & Roger Waters is still doing most of it live in concerts - saw it/him last year in London's Hyde Park. but... | Nov 24 10:54 |
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| kentma | The name has created a generation of people who think that the moon has a "dark side"... | Nov 24 10:55 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft already poisoned Vodafone with a former VP | Nov 24 10:55 |
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| schestowitz | This is not good. They could lean back to the former employer... cronies and all. | Nov 24 10:55 |
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| PetoKraus | kentma: but it's true, isn't it, the "dark side of the moon" is simply the part of the moon we don't see | Nov 24 10:55 |
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| PetoKraus | just because it rotates around it's own axis the same angular speed as it rotates around earth... | Nov 24 10:56 |
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| kentma | PetoKraus: except it's not dark! | Nov 24 10:56 |
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| PetoKraus | well... how'd you call it then :P | Nov 24 10:56 |
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| kentma | "far side" | Nov 24 10:56 |
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| PetoKraus | okay ;) | Nov 24 10:56 |
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| kentma | still love the album | Nov 24 10:56 |
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| kentma | :-) | Nov 24 10:56 |
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| PetoKraus | we are using similar words to "dark" in slovak to describe that ^^ | Nov 24 10:57 |
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| PetoKraus | i think it's important to develop your own presentation skills, because in few years, when I graduate, there will be only few people who'll know grammEr :P | Nov 24 10:58 |
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| PetoKraus | it's annoying when you see ballmer typing like a chat-monkey. though it's not surprising; the same happens with most of my proffesors at uni - their emails are poorly structured. | Nov 24 10:59 |
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| PetoKraus | it's terrible that your surroundings force you to be elitist... | Nov 24 11:00 |
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| schestowitz | Nothing to do with Microsoft, but Stupid 'Fool' needs to do some more Microsoft fanboyism for the masters... Microsoft Will Kill Blu-Ray < http://www.fool.com/investing/value/200... > | Nov 24 11:02 |
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| kentma | "Elitist" is a term usually used by people who are too lazy to spell and/or write well, so rather than put the effort in themselves, they try to destroy the credibility of those who do put that effort in... | Nov 24 11:03 |
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| PetoKraus | there's difference between elitist and snob | Nov 24 11:04 |
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| kentma | "dark side" has two meanings, a physical meaning which is merely "unlit", and a more metaphorical meaning which is a "bad side" or "poor aspect", aspect being another word for side :-) | Nov 24 11:04 |
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