| Omar87 | schestowitz: You know why I wrote it this way? Because from what you've told me just moments ago, those guys a professional MS guardians, so I had to appear a little aggressive in front of them, just to make them feel as if they're talking to some just as strong as they are. | Dec 04 16:50 |
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| Omar87 | someone** | Dec 04 16:50 |
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| schestowitz | True. | Dec 04 16:51 |
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| schestowitz | But the trolls are not this guy | Dec 04 16:51 |
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| schestowitz | I feed not the trolls though. | Dec 04 16:52 |
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| Omar87 | schestowitz: Excuse me? | Dec 04 16:52 |
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| schestowitz | There are some real trolls in that thread. | Dec 04 16:54 |
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| schestowitz | Familiar names. | Dec 04 16:54 |
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| Omar87 | schestowitz: mhmm.. such as..? | Dec 04 16:54 |
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| Omar87 | schestowitz: can you give me some of their names? | Dec 04 16:56 |
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| schestowitz | NOVL is tanking today | Dec 04 16:57 |
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| schestowitz | It's the day of the report. | Dec 04 16:57 |
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| Omar87 | report? | Dec 04 16:57 |
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| schestowitz | 0.20 (4.90%) | Dec 04 16:57 |
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| schestowitz | Financial report. | Dec 04 16:57 |
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| schestowitz | -0.20 (4.90%) | Dec 04 16:57 |
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| schestowitz | After market close... | Dec 04 16:57 |
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| schestowitz | The investors seem worried.. second day straight. | Dec 04 16:58 |
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| Omar87 | schestowitz: Oh yeah! Thanks for mentioning that. I'm also welling to know how well those guys are doing. :) | Dec 04 16:58 |
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| schestowitz | Well or /un/well? | Dec 04 17:04 |
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| Omar87 | schestowitz: Actually, I want to know that because this does serve as evidence in our further blogging, right? :D | Dec 04 17:09 |
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| Omar87 | schestowitz: That's why I said I'm welling to know. | Dec 04 17:10 |
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| schestowitz | Yes, definitely. | Dec 04 17:11 |
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| twitter | That thread is going on forever isn't it? http://boycottnovell.com/2008/12/03/novell-i... | Dec 04 17:11 |
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| Omar87 | schestowitz: Okay, how about now? http://omarsdaydreams.blogspot.co... | Dec 04 17:11 |
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| twitter | reading | Dec 04 17:12 |
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| Omar87 | twitter: OMG!! 176 friggin' comments? schestowitz, Are you sure your database is large enough to painlessly accommodate all that? :D (J/K) | Dec 04 17:13 |
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| twitter | I think what I had to say about OOXML applies. If M$ wants to cooperate, they will GPL their code and use reasonable standards instead of extorting the world with secrets and monopolies. | Dec 04 17:13 |
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| Omar87 | twitter: Exactly. | Dec 04 17:14 |
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| schestowitz | IT IS NOT OFTEN that anyone at Waggener Edstrom, Microsoft's pet public relations firm, writes to The INQUIRER. < http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/ne... > | Dec 04 17:15 |
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| Omar87 | twitter: But you know Microsoft. How can GPL'ling OOXML be of any financial benefit Gates and Ballmer? At least it won't serve in making them the richest two men in the world, right? :) | Dec 04 17:16 |
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| twitter | They do, they just don't let you know. | Dec 04 17:16 |
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| twitter | Omar87, other people's financial benefit is not my concern. I'm not willing to surrender my freedom for them to make money. | Dec 04 17:17 |
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| Omar87 | twitter: That's right, I share you the same point of view. I'm just being sarcastic. :) | Dec 04 17:18 |
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| twitter | I see :) | Dec 04 17:18 |
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| Omar87 | twitter: So, what do you think of my post? :) | Dec 04 17:19 |
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| twitter | It was interesting, thanks. | Dec 04 17:20 |
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| twitter | Some people advance the self interest of M$ as a serious argument. It's strange they think that way. | Dec 04 17:21 |
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| twitter | Generally, they tell people they won't be able to make money if M$ is not allowed to make money with non free software. They might as well defend the rugged individualism of muggers. | Dec 04 17:22 |
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| Omar87 | twitter: You're welcome. :) | Dec 04 17:22 |
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| twitter | Wow, that WE guy got spanked. | Dec 04 17:27 |
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| twitter | It's quite a story. | Dec 04 17:28 |
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| Omar87 | Unfortunately, that's true. But what's far from truth is what they claim. Because, as the fact keeps proving itself, FOSS keeps on opening endless success opportunities in so many aspects. not only Financially. While at the other hand, it is becoming crystal clear that proprietary is more of a money-burning technique than people think it is. | Dec 04 17:28 |
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| twitter | M$ is really getting desperate to try to bully the Inquirer like that. They should have known it would blow back in their face. | Dec 04 17:29 |
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| schestowitz | NOVL keeps sliding. | Dec 04 17:39 |
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| twitter | So they do. | Dec 04 17:41 |
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| Omar87 | schestowitz: Let us all hope it keeps on sliding until it reaches a high cliff and falls off it head-first,lol. :) | Dec 04 17:41 |
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| schestowitz | twitter: yes, I'll write about WE | Dec 04 17:42 |
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| Omar87 | schestowitz: What's WE? | Dec 04 17:42 |
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| schestowitz | Waggener Edstrom | Dec 04 17:42 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft shills in suits | Dec 04 17:42 |
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| schestowitz | Should be in prison, IMHO | Dec 04 17:43 |
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| schestowitz | They also help the bribing of bloggers, arm-twisting, planting of articles, eyc. | Dec 04 17:43 |
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| schestowitz | Waggener Edstrom is a front. Like the mafia... | Dec 04 17:43 |
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| schestowitz | Would you be able to update your story to reflect this? Please let me know. | Dec 04 17:44 |
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| schestowitz | Rickard Andersson: revisionist | Dec 04 17:44 |
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| Omar87 | schestowitz: Okay, sure. :) | Dec 04 17:45 |
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| Omar87 | schestowitz: How do I suggest I make the updates? | Dec 04 17:45 |
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| Omar87 | How do *you* suggest I make the update? | Dec 04 17:45 |
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| schestowitz | Didn't they have a dossier on Egan? | Dec 04 17:45 |
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| schestowitz | They should have done enough spying to know he's trouble to the Vole | Dec 04 17:46 |
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| schestowitz | He reads Groklaw. | Dec 04 17:46 |
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| schestowitz | The political censor get a big axe: AT&T will slash 12,000 from workforce < http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/12/0... > | Dec 04 17:48 |
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| schestowitz | That still leaves 96% of them to serve Bush with snoops and political censorship | Dec 04 17:48 |
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| schestowitz | They are also swpats lobbyists | Dec 04 17:49 |
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| schestowitz | Sleazy company really... lots of information accumulated here: http://boycottnovell.com/2008/09/0... | Dec 04 17:49 |
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| Omar87 | schestowitz: Sure I can update my story, but can you please tell me what to write? | Dec 04 17:50 |
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| twitter | ATT is evil. | Dec 04 17:50 |
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| schestowitz | This is sad though: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008... | Dec 04 17:51 |
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| schestowitz | Omar87: I saw you made the front page of Free Software Daily | Dec 04 17:51 |
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| schestowitz | Monster.com Founder Andrew McKelvey Dies < http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2008/11/29/m... > | Dec 04 17:54 |
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| schestowitz | Gordon Michaels: "In my (humble) opinion this person should not be taken seriously. Neither should I, but then I'm not pretending to be engaged in the discussion at hand." | Dec 04 17:56 |
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| schestowitz | Translation: I am just here to fling crap at the walls. I am not interested in this site, but I stalk people here. | Dec 04 17:56 |
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| schestowitz | Virtually Every Windows PC at Risk, Says Secuni < More than 98% of Windows computers harbor at least one unpatched application, and nearly half contain 11 or more programs at risk from attack, a Danish security company said Wednesday. > | Dec 04 17:57 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.pcworld.com/article/154944/ev... | Dec 04 17:57 |
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| Omar87 | schestowitz: The front page of FSD? | Dec 04 17:59 |
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| Omar87 | schestowitz: Where? | Dec 04 18:00 |
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| Omar87 | schestowitz: Oh, okay I get it, lol. :) | Dec 04 18:01 |
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| schestowitz | Glitch in The Matrix.. Networking Glitch Knocks Yahoo Offline for Some < http://www.pcworld.com/article/1549... > | Dec 04 18:01 |
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| schestowitz | bbl (in two hours) | Dec 04 18:02 |
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| Omar87 | schestowitz: take care, dude. :) | Dec 04 18:03 |
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| trmanco | http://graphjam.com/2008/11/30/song-chart-... | Dec 04 18:23 |
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| trmanco | http://nettuts.com/articles/news/how-to-setu... | Dec 04 18:26 |
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| trmanco | http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2008/... | Dec 04 18:27 |
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| twitter | You need to tag or ban that Michaels clown. | Dec 04 18:28 |
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| twitter | M$ autowrong, very funny graph. | Dec 04 18:30 |
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| trmanco | http://www.linuxformat.co.uk/modules.php?o... | Dec 04 18:41 |
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| SubsonicB | cheers everyone | Dec 04 18:43 |
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| Omar871 | SubsonicB: Cheers. :) | Dec 04 18:46 |
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| trmanco | http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-110491/fail:d... | Dec 04 18:46 |
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| trmanco | Hi | Dec 04 18:46 |
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| SubsonicB | thanks trmanco | Dec 04 18:49 |
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| SubsonicB | btw is there a plugin to embed ODF documents into Firefox | Dec 04 18:49 |
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| SubsonicB | ? | Dec 04 18:49 |
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| SubsonicB | It would be very useful for example for a document manager or intranet | Dec 04 18:49 |
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| trmanco | SubsonicB, http://mozillalinks.org/wp/2007/09/openoffice... | Dec 04 18:50 |
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| SubsonicB | Like to use docmgr or knowledgetree with firefox | Dec 04 18:50 |
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| SubsonicB | great | Dec 04 18:51 |
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| trmanco | https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firef... | Dec 04 18:52 |
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| trmanco | the addon got lost in time | Dec 04 18:52 |
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| trmanco | :| | Dec 04 18:52 |
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| twitter | the kword kpart should be able to do this, but kword 3.5 branch has not been doing as well as it could. | Dec 04 18:53 |
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| SubsonicB | that one works with ff older versions (up to v.2) | Dec 04 18:53 |
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| SubsonicB | the fail blog rocks! http://failblog.org/2008/07/02/microsoft-fail/ | Dec 04 18:54 |
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| twitter | the spreadsheet part works very well and I think it does excel too. | Dec 04 18:54 |
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| SubsonicB | thx twitter | Dec 04 18:54 |
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| trmanco | lol | Dec 04 18:55 |
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| SubsonicB | :-D | Dec 04 18:55 |
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| twitter | here's a fail log of sorts. http://slashdot.org/~twitter/journal/213707 | Dec 04 18:58 |
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| trmanco | nice log | Dec 04 19:03 |
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| Omar871 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5_Msrdg3Hk&feature=dir, ROFLMAO! :D | Dec 04 19:09 |
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| SubsonicB | cool! | Dec 04 19:13 |
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| twitter | entertainment as advertisement | Dec 04 19:27 |
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| twitter | entertaining enough | Dec 04 19:27 |
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| schestowitz | twitter: I'll warn the Michaels persona before flagging. It's going over the top | Dec 04 20:04 |
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| SubsonicB | Roy good fight at the ooxml post! | Dec 04 20:07 |
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| schestowitz | Yes, but I don't know why. | Dec 04 20:07 |
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| schestowitz | It's just recursive. | Dec 04 20:07 |
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| SubsonicB | that was how many 180 comments? | Dec 04 20:07 |
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| SubsonicB | yes | Dec 04 20:07 |
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| schestowitz | twitter: remind me to flag the Michaels thing in case I forget. | Dec 04 20:07 |
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| schestowitz | SubsonicB: we've had more in some posts. | Dec 04 20:07 |
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| schestowitz | Ta for the links, trmanco. Added. | Dec 04 20:09 |
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| SubsonicB | they never get tired of repeating MSFT's marketing chatter? | Dec 04 20:10 |
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| schestowitz | brb | Dec 04 20:13 |
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| trmanco | you're welcome | Dec 04 20:14 |
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| SubsonicB | new version of SME server http://wiki.contribs.org/SME_Server:Download | Dec 04 20:17 |
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| SubsonicB | for SMBs on a tight budget | Dec 04 20:17 |
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| SubsonicB | beats Microsoft SBS hands down | Dec 04 20:17 |
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| SubsonicB | anyday | Dec 04 20:17 |
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| SubsonicB | I read a very good article on how the economic crisis is good for Free Software, I just cant find it | Dec 04 20:18 |
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| SubsonicB | also check this one http://ebox-platform.com/ | Dec 04 20:19 |
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| schestowitz | Oh | Dec 04 20:25 |
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| schestowitz | SubsonicB: remember BitRock? | Dec 04 20:25 |
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| SubsonicB | sure | Dec 04 20:25 |
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| schestowitz | SubsonicB: there are many articles like that | Dec 04 20:25 |
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| schestowitz | Re: BitRock, Microsoft tries wrapping them up | Dec 04 20:26 |
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| schestowitz | First the Walli thing | Dec 04 20:26 |
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| SubsonicB | what do you mean | Dec 04 20:26 |
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| schestowitz | Now Port25 blogs about them | Dec 04 20:26 |
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| SubsonicB | hmmm | Dec 04 20:26 |
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| schestowitz | About how they feel about Microsoft and stuff.. | Dec 04 20:26 |
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| schestowitz | Here's my hypothesis | Dec 04 20:27 |
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| SubsonicB | do you have a link | Dec 04 20:27 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft has 'softeners' | Dec 04 20:27 |
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| SubsonicB | softeners like Walli... | Dec 04 20:27 |
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| schestowitz | People whose role -- whether designed or not -- to make people like Microsoft | Dec 04 20:27 |
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| schestowitz | de Icazas of sorts.. | Dec 04 20:27 |
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| schestowitz | Like the hecklers we have in BN | Dec 04 20:27 |
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| schestowitz | Groklaw has some too | Dec 04 20:27 |
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| SubsonicB | sure thing | Dec 04 20:27 |
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| schestowitz | It was published by the Galli mole in Port25 blog some days afo | Dec 04 20:28 |
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| SubsonicB | but you and pj know better | Dec 04 20:28 |
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| schestowitz | I found it via 451 Group | Dec 04 20:28 |
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| SubsonicB | ok ill check it | Dec 04 20:28 |
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| schestowitz | Post link here... | Dec 04 20:28 |
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| schestowitz | I think I did (in IRC) when I saw it.. | Dec 04 20:28 |
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| SubsonicB | http://port25.technet.com/archi... | Dec 04 20:31 |
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| schestowitz | That Michaels creature left almost 100 comments that are abusive. | Dec 04 20:32 |
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| schestowitz | That leaves lots of work flagging. | Dec 04 20:32 |
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| SubsonicB | heh you are giving MSFT shills a lot of work!!! | Dec 04 20:32 |
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| SubsonicB | MSFT wants to take people away from the LAMP stack and replace it for WAMP, Bitrock makes it easy to install Apache+PHP+MYSQL+The app you need in Windows | Dec 04 20:38 |
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| SubsonicB | That is why MSFT is interested in them | Dec 04 20:38 |
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| SubsonicB | And let me tell you something: It won't work. The same web app on a Windows system crawls when compared to the performance over GNU/Linux | Dec 04 20:40 |
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| SubsonicB | Moreover you have the added overhead of the WinOS | Dec 04 20:41 |
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| SubsonicB | overhead both in terms of wasted performance and licence cost | Dec 04 20:41 |
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| SubsonicB | and abysmal security | Dec 04 20:41 |
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| schestowitz | OK, done (Michaels' comments are a lot longer now) | Dec 04 20:43 |
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| schestowitz | SubsonicB: they try to work with PHP (Zend) too | Dec 04 20:44 |
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| schestowitz | And now with Apache | Dec 04 20:44 |
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| schestowitz | Their goal is to change that., | Dec 04 20:44 |
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| SubsonicB | yes but at the end of the day it wont work | Dec 04 20:44 |
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| schestowitz | They already keep bragging like a broken radio that PHP is sometimes faster in Win32 | Dec 04 20:44 |
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| schestowitz | SubsonicB: true, but let's keep our eye open | Dec 04 20:44 |
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| SubsonicB | sure | Dec 04 20:45 |
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| schestowitz | That's not the story MS tells tjhem | Dec 04 20:45 |
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| SubsonicB | i am very aware of the issue | Dec 04 20:45 |
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| schestowitz | It will have them believe that Win32 is better | Dec 04 20:45 |
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| SubsonicB | Bitrock is a spanish company | Dec 04 20:45 |
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| schestowitz | It can bribe the shills O' Gartner to say that too. | Dec 04 20:45 |
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| schestowitz | "Studies', slog, you know the gig... | Dec 04 20:45 |
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| SubsonicB | tey can do whatever they want | Dec 04 20:45 |
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| SubsonicB | but people is realising the emperor has no clothes | Dec 04 20:45 |
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| schestowitz | All I can do is write about it. | Dec 04 20:46 |
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| schestowitz | These people have nothing is mind but stripping GNU/Linux off app | Dec 04 20:46 |
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| SubsonicB | Think about something | Dec 04 20:46 |
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| schestowitz | What saddens me are ignorant people who think that Microsoftg cares for the O/S is threatens to sue while trying to make its investors happy | Dec 04 20:46 |
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| schestowitz | BTW, Novell's results should be out any moment. | Dec 04 20:46 |
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| SubsonicB | €¿How many people is going to switch away from GNU/Linux thanks to Bitnami? | Dec 04 20:46 |
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| schestowitz | It could be big | Dec 04 20:46 |
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| schestowitz | They could announce layoffs, IMHO | Dec 04 20:47 |
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| SubsonicB | €¿And how many people is swithcing to GNU/Linux THANKS TO WUBI???? | Dec 04 20:47 |
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| SubsonicB | :_D | Dec 04 20:47 |
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| schestowitz | Well, Microsoft knows this. | Dec 04 20:47 |
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| SubsonicB | :-D | Dec 04 20:47 |
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| schestowitz | It knows that FOSS brings people to GNU/Linux | Dec 04 20:47 |
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| SubsonicB | MWBAHAHAHHAHA | Dec 04 20:47 |
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| schestowitz | But it tries to grab opportunities. | Dec 04 20:47 |
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| schestowitz | It's better for it to do it than NOT to do it. | Dec 04 20:47 |
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| schestowitz | And we must inform people. | Dec 04 20:48 |
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| SubsonicB | Also MSFT is helping a lot thanks to Vista and WindowsVaporware7 | Dec 04 20:48 |
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| schestowitz | If Bitnami follow the conversdation, then it should at least be aware | Dec 04 20:48 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft is a user (I have court exhibits about it) | Dec 04 20:48 |
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| schestowitz | It will suck the life out of any third party if it's good for MSFT investors | Dec 04 20:48 |
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| schestowitz | Bad reputation is not a problem because Microsoft owns DoJ and the press. | Dec 04 20:49 |
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| SubsonicB | yes it is a risk | Dec 04 20:49 |
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| schestowitz | This means they can get away with crime and then revisionism. | Dec 04 20:49 |
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| schestowitz | Apathy is dangerous. | Dec 04 20:49 |
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| SubsonicB | I think its going to become a little harder now | Dec 04 20:49 |
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| SubsonicB | due to the change of administration | Dec 04 20:49 |
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| schestowitz | Some people say "leave Microsoft alone, they ruin themselves anyway" | Dec 04 20:49 |
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| SubsonicB | and the conomic meltdown | Dec 04 20:49 |
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| schestowitz | But it doesn't mean they're over until they are over | Dec 04 20:49 |
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| schestowitz | Even Microsoft knows this. | Dec 04 20:50 |
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| *miked has quit ("Leaving") | Dec 04 20:50 |
| schestowitz | See Slog.doc | Dec 04 20:50 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft already has layoffs | Dec 04 20:50 |
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| SubsonicB | you are right we must keep fighting and unveiling the true motives | Dec 04 20:50 |
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| schestowitz | They buy some companies (they have little money left), so they fake growth of workforce | Dec 04 20:50 |
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| schestowitz | That's far from sustainable. | Dec 04 20:50 |
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| schestowitz | At the moment they think of patent-trolling as a revenue stream | Dec 04 20:50 |
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| SubsonicB | patent litigation is very expensive, though | Dec 04 20:51 |
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| schestowitz | From companies like Xerox, Novell and many others they already have an extortion pipe. They get money out of nothing (imaginary property and racketeering) | Dec 04 20:51 |
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| schestowitz | They don't need to litigate | Dec 04 20:51 |
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| SubsonicB | yep | Dec 04 20:51 |
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| schestowitz | See the Myhrvold troll. | Dec 04 20:51 |
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| schestowitz | They need to threaten. | Dec 04 20:51 |
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| schestowitz | The mafia man needn't /USE/ the gun | Dec 04 20:51 |
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| schestowitz | If he has a chain of bullet on him, he can empty the register before you can utter "no" | Dec 04 20:52 |
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| SubsonicB | yes they just use the /FEAR/ | Dec 04 20:52 |
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| SubsonicB | but come to think of it | Dec 04 20:52 |
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| SubsonicB | someday they are going to piss off some other company BIG TIME | Dec 04 20:52 |
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| SubsonicB | it already happened with HP and the Vista ready fiasco | Dec 04 20:53 |
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| SubsonicB | Also ACER was very upset at them | Dec 04 20:53 |
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| SubsonicB | Microsoft is nothing without the OEMs | Dec 04 20:53 |
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| SubsonicB | and they are starting to give MSFT the back | Dec 04 20:53 |
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| schestowitz | Which company? | Dec 04 20:54 |
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| schestowitz | Oh, Acer... | Dec 04 20:54 |
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| schestowitz | They hate Microsoft.. | Dec 04 20:54 |
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| SubsonicB | not to speak of GOOGLE | Dec 04 20:54 |
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| schestowitz | Maybe Microsoft will pressure the CEO out. :-) | Dec 04 20:54 |
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| SubsonicB | and they don't dare to mess with IBM | Dec 04 20:54 |
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| schestowitz | All the OEMs hate them | Dec 04 20:54 |
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| schestowitz | Acer spoke on their behalf about Vista. | Dec 04 20:54 |
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| SubsonicB | Dell has already defected | Dec 04 20:55 |
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| schestowitz | You could also see what H-P said to Microsoft after the Intel collusion | Dec 04 20:55 |
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| schestowitz | It got unsealed in the court. | Dec 04 20:55 |
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| schestowitz | They spoke to Microsoft as though it was their house cleaner that stole money | Dec 04 20:55 |
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| SubsonicB | Dell has kept the Ubuntu line | Dec 04 20:55 |
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| schestowitz | IBM has a new attack on the Vole. | Dec 04 20:56 |
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| SubsonicB | suddenly Linux has become an unlikely ally of the OEMs | Dec 04 20:56 |
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| MinceR | dell still pays them for the patent racket, don't they? | Dec 04 20:56 |
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| schestowitz | Today: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/12/04/ibm_l... http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008... | Dec 04 20:56 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft should be terrified of IBM because it's about 5 times heavier and has more physical assets (and h/w patents too) | Dec 04 20:56 |
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| MinceR | and almost all OEMs still advertise windows | Dec 04 20:57 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: yes, they do, AFAIK | Dec 04 20:57 |
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| schestowitz | They keep secret about it | Dec 04 20:57 |
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| MinceR | IBM is slow and inactive | Dec 04 20:57 |
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| schestowitz | We should pressure Dell to spill the beans | Dec 04 20:57 |
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| PetoKraus | schestowitz: got some evidence for that? ( "what H-P said to Microsoft after the Intel collusion" ) | Dec 04 20:57 |
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| MinceR | they could have crushed m$ any time but they didn't do anything | Dec 04 20:57 |
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| schestowitz | They 'joined' the Microsoft/Novell deal 1 WEEK before the big attack | Dec 04 20:57 |
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| schestowitz | May 2007 | Dec 04 20:57 |
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| schestowitz | Wait.. | Dec 04 20:57 |
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| MinceR | schestowitz: how can we pressure dell? | Dec 04 20:57 |
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| MinceR | schestowitz: and what do we know about the deal already? | Dec 04 20:58 |
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| PetoKraus | http://www.maidenart.co.uk/images/... | Dec 04 20:59 |
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| trmanco | Finnix 92.1 Is Powered by a New Kernel: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Finnix-92-1-Is... | Dec 04 20:59 |
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| trmanco | 92.1 :O | Dec 04 20:59 |
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| schestowitz | Read this: | Dec 04 20:59 |
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| schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com/2008/08/... | Dec 04 20:59 |
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| schestowitz | It's short, but it's shockingly familiar. | Dec 04 21:00 |
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| schestowitz | It's as though Dell was warned about the patent attack. | Dec 04 21:00 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: here is what I knew one year ago: http://boycottnovell.com/2007/08/27/n... | Dec 04 21:00 |
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| schestowitz | Follow the link at the bottom for updates | Dec 04 21:00 |
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| MinceR | thanks | Dec 04 21:02 |
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| schestowitz | I have evidence, no answers. | Dec 04 21:02 |
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| schestowitz | Dell made it mysterious. As in... "we joined the patent deal" crowd: what does that mean. "Dell: never mind; carry on with your thing. No questions". | Dec 04 21:03 |
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| SubsonicB | interesting... | Dec 04 21:03 |
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| trmanco | http://news.softpedia.com/news/Microsoft-Cla... | Dec 04 21:04 |
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| SubsonicB | they are dumping the console market with the XBox | Dec 04 21:04 |
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| SubsonicB | they are selling at big losses | Dec 04 21:04 |
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| schestowitz | YEs | Dec 04 21:05 |
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| schestowitz | Let them lose billiobs | Dec 04 21:05 |
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| SubsonicB | But most gamers know XBox 360 is defective | Dec 04 21:05 |
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| schestowitz | They already do that with Zune, Live. | Dec 04 21:05 |
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| SubsonicB | Even Microsoft admitted that EVERY console was defective | Dec 04 21:05 |
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| schestowitz | Even Windows Mobile is a brick. | Dec 04 21:05 |
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| schestowitz | They are ./still/ defenctive. | Dec 04 21:05 |
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| schestowitz | One Microsoft guy blew the whistle. | Dec 04 21:05 |
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| SubsonicB | yes | Dec 04 21:05 |
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| schestowitz | 67% failure rate | Dec 04 21:06 |
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| schestowitz | He got sacked | Dec 04 21:06 |
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| SubsonicB | They are replacing the units by the thousands, but it is a bad design problem. I think the failure rate is even higher, in the order of 80% | Dec 04 21:06 |
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| schestowitz | Here is a decent post about it: http://boycottnovell.com/2008/09/15/mic... | Dec 04 21:06 |
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| schestowitz | It's a summary of many things. Should make you sick, I reckin.. | Dec 04 21:07 |
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| schestowitz | *ckon | Dec 04 21:07 |
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| schestowitz | 80% sounds like too much. Depends on period of time measured, I guess. | Dec 04 21:07 |
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| trmanco | Microsoft Plans Eight Security Bulletins for Patch Tuesday: http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Security/Microsoft-Plans-Eight-S... | Dec 04 21:07 |
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| schestowitz | Funny that the logo has a shining green in it. Most gamers see lots of red lights (of death) | Dec 04 21:08 |
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| trmanco | another bunch | Dec 04 21:08 |
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| schestowitz | Don't worry. | Dec 04 21:08 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft will sent the Waggener Edstrom 'mafia' to bully journos who write about it. | Dec 04 21:08 |
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| trmanco | and I won't | Dec 04 21:08 |
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| schestowitz | "IT IS NOT OFTEN that anyone at Waggener Edstrom, Microsoft's pet public relations firm, writes to The INQUIRER. Read on, and we think you'll soon understand why that's the case." http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news... | Dec 04 21:08 |
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| twitter | "OK, done (Michaels' comments are a lot longer now)" Thanks. 100+ comments in how many days? | Dec 04 21:09 |
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| schestowitz | They did the same for OOXML | Dec 04 21:09 |
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| trmanco | http://www.itwire.com/content/view/22100/53/ | Dec 04 21:09 |
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| schestowitz | Someone criticises OOXML | Dec 04 21:09 |
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| schestowitz | And suddenly gets an E-mail asking for a "better" article | Dec 04 21:09 |
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| schestowitz | twitter: took about 15 minutes. Done job. He's gone offboard. Should seek medical help for chronic obsession... | Dec 04 21:10 |
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| schestowitz | Keep your door shut. He might have a crush on that twitter guy... | Dec 04 21:10 |
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| SubsonicB | I think MSFT has long ago striving for survival | Dec 04 21:11 |
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| SubsonicB | if only OpenOffice or GNU/Linux can get the market penetration of Mozilla Firefox they will be doomed for good | Dec 04 21:11 |
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| twitter | He's paid to do it. One of my Slashdot stalkers is talking about the character too. They are probably the same person. | Dec 04 21:12 |
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| trmanco | schestowitz, nice article | Dec 04 21:12 |
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| trmanco | the vista kernel one | Dec 04 21:12 |
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| *kentma has quit ("Leaving.") | Dec 04 21:14 |
| *schestowitz just seen that XBox 'article'... the MS boosters were all over this one right after the announcement. Like a group of parrots saluting the emperor | Dec 04 21:14 |
| trmanco | Novell, Guess highlight after-hours session: http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/story.... | Dec 04 21:15 |
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| schestowitz | They will hide many things. | Dec 04 21:15 |
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| schestowitz | The goal will be to find out what they DON'T say | Dec 04 21:16 |
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| schestowitz | Netware must be sinking like a rock beecause of the recession | Dec 04 21:16 |
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| schestowitz | That's where all their dough comes from | Dec 04 21:16 |
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| schestowitz | Without Netware, there's no Novell. | Dec 04 21:16 |
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| schestowitz | The Linux part of the company is just hundreds of people. | Dec 04 21:16 |
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| schestowitz | The company, as a whole, comprises about 4,000 (and declining) | Dec 04 21:16 |
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| trmanco | Firefox users targeted by rare piece of malware: http://www.networkworld.com/news/2008/120408-fire... | Dec 04 21:17 |
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| schestowitz | NOVL is down over 6% at the moment. | Dec 04 21:17 |
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| schestowitz | I saw pessimism yesterday | Dec 04 21:17 |
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| trmanco | "Trojan.PWS.ChromeInject.A" -> this seems like a Windows thing, so I don't have to worry | Dec 04 21:18 |
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| schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com/2008/12/04/... http://boycottnovell.com/2008/12/03/n... | Dec 04 21:18 |
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| schestowitz | trmanco: no, no need to worry | Dec 04 21:18 |
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| trmanco | :-p | Dec 04 21:18 |
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| schestowitz | "There haven't been any major new malware attacks to suggest increasing Mac marketshare has generated more malware. Just two weeks ago, I blogged that in fact Apple's increasing marketshare hadn't led to more attacks—that Microsoft's marketshare mythology is wrong." http://blogs.eweek.com/applewatch/content/s... | Dec 04 21:18 |
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| schestowitz | that's from a Microsoft fan | Dec 04 21:18 |
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| schestowitz | "I'm a huge fan of guerrilla marketing." --Joe Wilcox, Microsoft Fan | Dec 04 21:19 |
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| trmanco | I have some mac friends and they have never used an anti virus for mac viruses | Dec 04 21:20 |
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| trmanco | not even now they use one | Dec 04 21:20 |
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| schestowitz | Andy Patrizio, a pro-Microsoft guy (typicall) uses the label "anti-Microsoft sentiment" | Dec 04 21:21 |
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| trmanco | with all this "mac is vulnerable" hype | Dec 04 21:21 |
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| schestowitz | That's like saying the "Anti-Stalin" or "anti-murder" crown... Ah! Those intolerant people | Dec 04 21:21 |
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| schestowitz | Those 'zealots'. They oppose crime | Dec 04 21:21 |
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| schestowitz | China: We'll keep Red Flag flying here < http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2008... > << largest Internet population | Dec 04 21:22 |
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| trmanco | 1.3 billion people to use GNU/Linux :-P | Dec 04 21:25 |
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| schestowitz | They forgot an important O/S here: http://gizmodo.com/5101337/giz-explains-why-os-x-shrug... | Dec 04 21:27 |
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| schestowitz | The one which runs (securely) a lot of the world's critical server. | Dec 04 21:28 |
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| schestowitz | *vers | Dec 04 21:28 |
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| schestowitz | Add David Meyer to this week's Mono/light boosters http://news.zdnet.co.uk/software/0,10... Not too surprising as David uses SUSE (blech) | Dec 04 21:28 |
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| schestowitz | trmanco: shout out when you find out NOVL results stuff. Expect some fancy headline that only talks about Linux sales (minority) but nothing else and a subheadline with some numbers that are selective. | Dec 04 21:31 |
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| trmanco | ok | Dec 04 21:33 |
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| schestowitz | *LOL* just found this: http://www.vistaisrubbish.com/ | Dec 04 21:36 |
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| trmanco | rubbish lol | Dec 04 21:36 |
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| trmanco | I kinda like this British word | Dec 04 21:36 |
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| SubsonicB | Hasta la Vista, baby (Terminator said) | Dec 04 21:39 |
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| trmanco | I'll be back!! | Dec 04 21:40 |
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| SubsonicB | heh | Dec 04 21:41 |
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| SubsonicB | Must go now,guys. Happy microtroll hunting!!! | Dec 04 21:43 |
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| schestowitz | More MS layoffs | Dec 04 21:46 |
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| *schestowitz doing a quick post. | Dec 04 21:46 |
| *_doug has quit () | Dec 04 21:46 |
| twitter | bwahahaha! | Dec 04 21:46 |
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| schestowitz | There' some silly gates appearance in CNN | Dec 04 21:48 |
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| schestowitz | I can see that... OJ Simpson, Gates... who's next? Hans Reister? | Dec 04 21:48 |
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| schestowitz | *Reiser? | Dec 04 21:48 |
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| schestowitz | BN in Portugal: http://www.computerworld.com.pt/sit... | Dec 04 21:53 |
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| twitter | this http://www.techflash.com/venture/3... is doing M$ damage control about layoffs. | Dec 04 21:53 |
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| schestowitz | Yes, they have a batch of them | Dec 04 21:53 |
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| schestowitz | Do to the G and search for "Mcirosoft layoffs" | Dec 04 21:53 |
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| schestowitz | A lot of people search for these nowadays. | Dec 04 21:53 |
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| schestowitz | They had Ozzie (IIRC, maybe Mundie) doing a denial last week | Dec 04 21:54 |
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| schestowitz | Then there was another some days ago. They really go out of their way. Google likewise, I think, but I'm not sure. | Dec 04 21:54 |
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| schestowitz | The days of chefs of days of "fun research" (once a week) are over in Google. | Dec 04 21:55 |
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| schestowitz | I'm glad I didn't go to work for them. | Dec 04 21:55 |
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| SubsonicB | minimsft will be happy | Dec 04 21:55 |
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| SubsonicB | if he remains at the company, anyway | Dec 04 21:56 |
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| SubsonicB | I really must go now. | Dec 04 21:56 |
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| SubsonicB | Beware of the shills... | Dec 04 21:57 |
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| schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com/2008/12/... | Dec 04 21:57 |
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| SubsonicB | take care everyone | Dec 04 21:57 |
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| schestowitz | Take care | Dec 04 21:57 |
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| *SubsonicB has quit ("ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.4/2008111317]") | Dec 04 21:57 |
| schestowitz | That IBM thingie.... several days ago I thought they had made promises in vain, but it's materialising... http://www.eweek.com/c/a/IT-Infrastructure/IBM-Virtual-D... ... it's PROPRIETARY software though. They ought to encourage use of F/OSS. | Dec 04 22:01 |
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| schestowitz | It's IBM lockin... on top of Ubuntu. | Dec 04 22:01 |
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| trmanco | schestowitz, do you know ruel smith? | Dec 04 22:02 |
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| trmanco | he seem to be using Linux | Dec 04 22:02 |
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| schestowitz | Rehttp://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Specia... | Dec 04 22:06 |
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| schestowitz | Notable? | Dec 04 22:06 |
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| schestowitz | http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Speci... | Dec 04 22:07 |
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| trmanco | lol | Dec 04 22:07 |
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| trmanco | on usenet | Dec 04 22:07 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.svacomputerart.com/smith.html ? | Dec 04 22:07 |
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| schestowitz | Oh | Dec 04 22:07 |
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| trmanco | did you ever see him? | Dec 04 22:07 |
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| schestowitz | No. | Dec 04 22:07 |
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| trmanco | :| | Dec 04 22:07 |
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| trmanco | his posts are all from today | Dec 04 22:12 |
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| trmanco | as far as I can see, he doesn't really like you | Dec 04 22:13 |
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| trmanco | schestowitz, is there any way we can spoof an emails user-agent? | Dec 04 22:14 |
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| schestowitz | news.motzarella.org | Dec 04 22:14 |
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| schestowitz | Prabably Gary nyms | Dec 04 22:14 |
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| schestowitz | never posted before | Dec 04 22:15 |
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| schestowitz | Check headers | Dec 04 22:15 |
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| trmanco | :| | Dec 04 22:15 |
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| trmanco | he is using slrn | Dec 04 22:15 |
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| trmanco | this is why I asked if we can spoof the user-agent | Dec 04 22:15 |
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| trmanco | "ethical" "ethical" "ethical" "ethical" | Dec 04 22:16 |
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| schestowitz | i replied | Dec 04 22:17 |
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| schestowitz | Gary spoofs headers | Dec 04 22:17 |
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| trmanco | :| | Dec 04 22:18 |
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| trmanco | I knew there was something fishy | Dec 04 22:18 |
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| schestowitz | :-) | Dec 04 22:18 |
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| trmanco | LOL | Dec 04 22:26 |
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| trmanco | nice reply | Dec 04 22:26 |
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| schestowitz | I'm testing before I shoot | Dec 04 22:28 |
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| schestowitz | He has had almost 1000 nyms | Dec 04 22:28 |
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| trmanco | but how can he be so different? | Dec 04 22:29 |
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| trmanco | he can't be real | Dec 04 22:29 |
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| trmanco | :| | Dec 04 22:29 |
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| schestowitz | If someone new comes and knows the newsgroup too well, it's a nymshift. I could guess even without the motzarella.org. It's also common for Gary to use foreign name but keep the same wrtiting style, weasel phrases, prejudice and English | Dec 04 22:29 |
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| schestowitz | Gary is like Barkto | Dec 04 22:29 |
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| schestowitz | Probably a Microsoft agent. | Dec 04 22:29 |
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| schestowitz | This is idiotic: Growth in Internet crime calls for growth in punishment < http://www.net-security.org/secworld.php?id=6796 > | Dec 04 22:30 |
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| schestowitz | So rather than fix security they think of increasing punishment? | Dec 04 22:30 |
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| schestowitz | That's like saying you'll stop serving bread in prison in order to reduce murder lev els | Dec 04 22:31 |
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| trmanco | ... | Dec 04 22:31 |
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| schestowitz | The American Juridical system is insane. | Dec 04 22:31 |
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| schestowitz | Like that onlone harassment thing... pretend to be a boy, go to jail | Dec 04 22:31 |
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| schestowitz | I should not be shocked though. Coming from a country that assassinates leaders of other countries (South America being a good example), putting in puppets, ruining vital infrastructure, assisting assassinations using bodies like CIA and then using embargoes to devastate the public. | Dec 04 22:33 |
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| trmanco | finally some support | Dec 04 22:33 |
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| schestowitz | How Comcast Controls Sony’s Internet TV Plans < http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/12/02/how-co... >. Comcast needs to be shut down already. I have quite a collections of their crimes. | Dec 04 22:34 |
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| Eruaran | $ sudo apt-get purge libmono | Dec 04 22:34 |
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| Eruaran | [sudo] password for jeremy: | Dec 04 22:34 |
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| Eruaran | Reading package lists... Done | Dec 04 22:34 |
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| Eruaran | Building dependency tree | Dec 04 22:34 |
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| Eruaran | Reading state information... Done | Dec 04 22:34 |
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| Eruaran | E: Couldn't find package libmono | Dec 04 22:34 |
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| Eruaran | hehe | Dec 04 22:34 |
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| schestowitz | Andy has had a series of politcal posts: http://www.consortiuminfo.org/standa... | Dec 04 22:34 |
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| trmanco | libmon0 | Dec 04 22:35 |
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| schestowitz | Pretty useless for the blog is used to be. The links he posts likewise. | Dec 04 22:35 |
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| schestowitz | Daman. | Dec 04 22:35 |
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| schestowitz | Damn. I need to install Ubuntu sometimes.. | Dec 04 22:35 |
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| trmanco | why? | Dec 04 22:35 |
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| schestowitz | Just so that I can purge that umbilical cord. | Dec 04 22:35 |
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| trmanco | lol | Dec 04 22:35 |
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| Eruaran | E: Couldn't find package libmon0 | Dec 04 22:35 |
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| trmanco | I can try and find a full purge | Dec 04 22:35 |
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| schestowitz | It's like inflating a balloon just to shoot it., ;-) | Dec 04 22:35 |
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| Eruaran | :) | Dec 04 22:36 |
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| schestowitz | Maybe I'll put Mono on Mandriva | Dec 04 22:36 |
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| schestowitz | It wanted to invade already | Dec 04 22:36 |
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| Eruaran | I could smear poo on my car as well | Dec 04 22:36 |
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| schestowitz | There are dependency traps | Dec 04 22:36 |
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| Eruaran | But I don't think I'll bother | Dec 04 22:36 |
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| schestowitz | Lots of people will just install some app like Beagle in Mandriva and get a huge pile of Microsoft garbage along the way, unaware. | Dec 04 22:36 |
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| trmanco | my I post the hole log? | Dec 04 22:37 |
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| trmanco | here is a snip | Dec 04 22:37 |
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| trmanco | sudo apt-get --purge remove mono-common | Dec 04 22:37 |
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| trmanco | A Ler Listas de Pacotes... Pronto | Dec 04 22:37 |
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| trmanco | Construindo ÃÂrvore de Dependências | Dec 04 22:37 |
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| trmanco | Lendo informação de estado... Pronto | Dec 04 22:37 |
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| trmanco | Os seguintes pacotes foram instalados automáticamente e já não são necessários: | Dec 04 22:37 |
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| trmanco | libmono0 sqlite cli-common sqlite3 | Dec 04 22:37 |
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| trmanco | Utilize 'apt-get autoremove' para os remover. | Dec 04 22:37 |
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| schestowitz | BN has many readers today. I'm not sure why. | Dec 04 22:37 |
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| schestowitz | Oh wait. | Dec 04 22:38 |
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| schestowitz | We made Slashdot?> | Dec 04 22:38 |
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| schestowitz | Something in the Apple section on /. I can't find it though. | Dec 04 22:39 |
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| trmanco | drm stuff | Dec 04 22:39 |
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| schestowitz | We made SFTL bytes... http://wftlbytes.com/content/wft... | Dec 04 22:40 |
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| schestowitz | WFTL | Dec 04 22:40 |
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| Eruaran | bbl | Dec 04 22:40 |
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| trmanco | :-) | Dec 04 22:40 |
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| schestowitz | Oh, I found it. | Dec 04 22:40 |
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| schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com/2007/12/20/go... | Dec 04 22:40 |
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| schestowitz | This was in /. | Dec 04 22:40 |
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| trmanco | I have to go, by guys :-P | Dec 04 22:41 |
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| trmanco | bye* | Dec 04 22:41 |
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| schestowitz | Whoa. | Dec 04 22:44 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft layoffs qeries doubled. | Dec 04 22:44 |
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| schestowitz | *queries | Dec 04 22:44 |
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| twitter | cool. It's nice someone picked up the "X recommends Winblows Professional" story. | Dec 04 22:49 |
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| schestowitz | Not just someone | Dec 04 22:49 |
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| schestowitz | Many sometones | Dec 04 22:49 |
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| schestowitz | It got over 5000 reads within a day or two | Dec 04 22:49 |
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| schestowitz | *someones | Dec 04 22:49 |
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| schestowitz | This is sad: http://lwn.net/Artic... | Dec 04 22:50 |
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| *NZheretic (n=NZhereti@203.96.219.162) has joined #boycottnovell | Dec 04 22:57 |
| NZheretic | Just a quick note on how to remove Mono from the default DVD install ( with development ) of Fedora 10 ... | Dec 04 22:59 |
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| NZheretic | rpm -e mono-addins mono-winforms mono-core mono-data mono-data-sqlite mono-extras mono-web tomboy gtk-sharp2 gnome-desktop-sharp ndesk-dbus ndesk-dbus-glib gmime-sharp gnome-sharp | Dec 04 22:59 |
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| schestowitz | Hey | Dec 04 22:59 |
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| MinceR | there goes the theory that fedora comes without mono :> | Dec 04 23:00 |
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| schestowitz | The Live CD | Dec 04 23:00 |
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| schestowitz | Not the Live DVD | Dec 04 23:00 |
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| NZheretic | The Live CD does not have them, the DVD does. | Dec 04 23:00 |
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| MinceR | ic | Dec 04 23:02 |
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| schestowitz | Net filters... the new DRM.... stops innocent people, not the problem though.. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/educa... | Dec 04 23:06 |
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| schestowitz | Those filters will at least enable political censorship and other 'unhealthy' content | Dec 04 23:06 |
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| NZheretic | schestowitz : No they won't, the 'unhealthy' content will just hav a non-violating front/login site keep actual content switched onto separate servers ( on rotating / new IPs ) via SSL. | Dec 04 23:11 |
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| schestowitz | The Microsoft-controlled DOJ (almost fact) was going to sue Google: http://techdirt.com/articles/2008... | Dec 04 23:11 |
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| schestowitz | It's sickening that a high legal authority of a nation is made out of cronies. | Dec 04 23:12 |
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| NZheretic | schestowitz : But for how much longer? | Dec 04 23:12 |
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| schestowitz | They should be 'flushed' | Dec 04 23:13 |
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| schestowitz | I can't use that story though. | Dec 04 23:14 |
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| schestowitz | There is no direct evidence showing Microsoft involvement. it's said by many experts though that Microsoft poisoned the DOj and I have lots of evidence. | Dec 04 23:14 |
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| schestowitz | Obama uses Zune. | Dec 04 23:14 |
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| NZheretic | schestowitz : Do you expect any change from the new administration ( http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=57... )? | Dec 04 23:14 |
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| schestowitz | Blech. That's change, eh? From iPod to Zune... don't expect him to take much action against them. | Dec 04 23:15 |
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| schestowitz | NZheretic: you beat me to it. | Dec 04 23:15 |
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| schestowitz | You spoke about change while I was writing the above | Dec 04 23:15 |
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| schestowitz | Obama is gentle and he already tapped some pro-IP people for the cabonet | Dec 04 23:15 |
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| schestowitz | *cabinet | Dec 04 23:15 |
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| schestowitz | Actually, i'd go with the typo: CaniNOT! | Dec 04 23:16 |
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| schestowitz | Or Cabotnet | Dec 04 23:16 |
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| NZheretic | http://change.gov/about/copyright_policy | Dec 04 23:16 |
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| schestowitz | Controlled by a botmaster | Dec 04 23:16 |
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| NZheretic | "Except where otherwise noted, content on this site is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 License. " | Dec 04 23:17 |
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| schestowitz | FYI: http://boycottnovell.com/2008/12/02/micros... | Dec 04 23:17 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.sutor.com/newsite/blog-open/?... | Dec 04 23:17 |
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| NZheretic | I think that the original Obama team is beginning to get the Idea. | Dec 04 23:18 |
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| schestowitz | Funny to see Ward's damage control | Dec 04 23:18 |
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| schestowitz | We correspond sometimes. | Dec 04 23:18 |
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| schestowitz | I'm trying to troll IBM into a fight against Sofwawre Patents. | Dec 04 23:19 |
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| schestowitz | Linden still a yo-yo: http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/Linden-Lab-Appo... | Dec 04 23:22 |
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| NZheretic | I've wondered about that. Most big corporations ( or their CEOs ) like Patents because they effectively add to the estimated capital value of the corporation. But, probably, if you actually totaled up what a business actually makes from those patents, via what it actually costs them for filing, fighting and settling their and others patent claims it would not come out to anything close to the estimated value of the patents. It it yet another | Dec 04 23:25 |
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| NZheretic | false economy ready to collapse? | Dec 04 23:25 |
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| schestowitz | It has been said | Dec 04 23:25 |
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| schestowitz | Have you seen wrirings about it? | Dec 04 23:25 |
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| schestowitz | Early Oct., just after the biggest tumbles in the street | Dec 04 23:26 |
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| schestowitz | Oh, I need to check NOVL's report. | Dec 04 23:26 |
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| schestowitz | NOVL reports LOSS | Dec 04 23:27 |
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| schestowitz | Stock up afterhhours though | Dec 04 23:27 |
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| schestowitz | Novell's 4Q loss narrows in line with Street < http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/081204/earns_... > | Dec 04 23:27 |
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| schestowitz | "Look. We lost money. But not as much as last year... about 5% less" | Dec 04 23:28 |
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| schestowitz | (Novell sacked people and closed office, so..) | Dec 04 23:28 |
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| schestowitz | I'll do a fast post before a more comprehensive analysis | Dec 04 23:29 |
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| NZheretic | Novell is too useful to Microsoft at the moment. Like SCO, Microsoft will find some way to prop it up to keep it going. | Dec 04 23:32 |
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| schestowitz | I know, I know... | Dec 04 23:36 |
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| schestowitz | That's why we need to show when Microsoft pays them | Dec 04 23:37 |
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| schestowitz | Pays them money and pays lip service. | Dec 04 23:37 |
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| schestowitz | As in recommendation of vouchers (patent royalties) to clients. | Dec 04 23:37 |
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| schestowitz | I should really leak a story soon. | Dec 04 23:37 |
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| schestowitz | Maybe tonight. | Dec 04 23:37 |
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| NZheretic | I'm off to an office meeting, thanks Roy for all the great effort you put into this. | Dec 04 23:43 |
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| *NZheretic has quit ("Leaving") | Dec 04 23:43 |
| schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com/2008/12/04/no... | Dec 04 23:46 |
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| MinceR | gn | Dec 04 23:48 |
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| schestowitz | I wish, MinceR. I have catching up to do tonight. | Dec 04 23:52 |
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| MinceR | i have catching up to sleep to do, but that won't really work | Dec 04 23:52 |
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| MinceR | (less than 7 hours left :/) | Dec 04 23:52 |
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| schestowitz | I do 6 or less | Dec 04 23:53 |
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| schestowitz | It's a matter of habit/pattern based on some experience I've had. Once you sleep more the body expects it. | Dec 04 23:53 |
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| schestowitz | Miracle: US FCC to mull free Internet plan at Dec. meeting < http://www.reuters.com/article/markets... > | Dec 04 23:57 |
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Jo Shields
2008-12-05 12:29:11