ONE of the leading forces behind a pseudo-grassroots push for OOXML is a mysterious character known as "hAl". This character was responsible also for smearing the names of those who spoke truth about OOXML, including myself. We wrote about this character before, but we have just obtained some information about hAl, which was sent to us anonymously. It was found on a special week, on which Google opened its archives, and there it was, in Google's cache, a homepage from hAl, from the year 2000. This matches some of the information that we already have (the name "Albert" and city/country of residence). From the page:
Here is some more information about myself:
Albert Zonneveld
Born on 16-may-'69 in Heemskerk, The Netherlands I live in Castricum at the Dutch coasts about 15 miles northwest from Amsterdam.
(Route) <= http://free.lokatienet.nl/freemap.asp?postcode=1901ej&zoom=4
My hobbies are:
* Badminton * Reading books (They do still exist), mainly SF and Adventure * Playing board/card games, because I enjoy the company more than I do my computer * Playing united games by mail, the kind that is still delivered door to door. * A friendly game of snooker And last but not least... drinking BEER.
Favorites:
* URL: < still looking for a good one > * Book: Ringworld by Larry Niven * Writer: Robert A Heinlein * Beer: Westmalle Triple * Game: 1830 * Computer game: Nethack (Seen the spectacular graphics??!!)
a.zonneveld@tip.nl
webwereld.nl
, which is owned by the Microsoft-paid analysts at IDC.
--Steve Pepper
Comments
homburg-hansen
2008-12-30 14:48:37
What are you trying to reach by that sensationalist headline?
Roy Schestowitz
2008-12-30 14:51:02
I assume that you know too little about the history of Microsoft OOXML AstroTurfing.
Roy Schestowitz
2008-12-30 18:36:28
http://cid-ee42a870fad2c78d.profile.live.com/
The facts line up with what we know about him and perhaps this is him:
http://cid-ee42a870fad2c78d.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/.res/EE42A870FAD2C78D!113/EE42A870FAD2C78D!130
Andre
2008-12-30 18:46:02
Your false assumption is that HAl is dangerous and needs to be unmasked. In fact he generates a community and awareness by his actions as a pseudonyme personality. He very useful as a player of the game and a great wikipedia open xml struggle recruitment personality. You cannot beat someone when he does not return the ball. HAl messes a lot around and this is why he is a key asset.
Think of Matusow who silenced his blog which looks like defeat: http://blogs.msdn.com/jasonmatusow/
In war and standards war you need to respect the soldiers you shoot at. Image a gladiator who lets you just kill him. The audience and the cesar won't be amused. And it is not real fun, neither for you nor your audience.
Roy Schestowitz
2008-12-30 20:24:53
As for Jason, he said too many outrageous things. For example, things about pushing and bending the rules, mocking South Africans' intelligence, suggesting that Groklaw is an IBM front, that open source is just collaborating on code etc.
G. Michaels
2008-12-30 21:14:39
Your friends do that too, bending the rules to disrupt communities.
Insulting indians, "Hyperbad".
Do I have to paste another link to his claims that anyone who disagrees with him works for "M$"? Nah, I don't think so.
I suggest you write a hard-hitting expose on William H. Hill, your friend and collaborator that goes by the pseudonym 'twitter'.
People in glass houses and all that.
Note: writer of this comment adds absolutely nothing but stalking and personal attacks against readers, as documented here.
Andre
2008-12-30 21:24:27
Are you involved with project domino, Roy?
"For example, things about pushing and bending the rules, mocking South Africans’ intelligence, suggesting that Groklaw is an IBM front, that open source is just collaborating on code etc. "
So what? Come on, Matusow is an independent mind with dependencies (aka oxy-moron). He never delivered a simple instant noodle "party line message" which meant that he has more power but of course he has to defend the line. Change a bit the perspective and it feels different.
Roy Schestowitz
2008-12-30 21:43:21
I'm not involved with project domino.
Peter2
2009-01-02 00:40:51
I suggest btw you take down this kind of detailed personal information. You make a mockery of what is the open source movement. We hold privacy as one of the greatest goods and these kind of publications of personal details (of people you do not like) is not in line with that at all. You disgrace us all.
Roy Schestowitz
2009-01-02 00:44:37
What do you know about this person and what he did? This is not some arbitrary chap who just left a few comments here and there.
Jose_X
2009-01-02 03:28:35
Also, this info about this hAl person might be bogus.
Roy Schestowitz
2009-01-02 08:03:06
Peter2
2009-01-02 14:17:30
That is not what OSS is about. We hold true to real protection of privacy.
Your blog truly is what I would call the dark side of the OSS community. I also noticed above you added a derogatory stament next to antother person not agreeing with your views. What you do not seem to get is that everybody should be free to express their views. You seem to attack readers that do agree with your (rather extreme) views. That on itself is questionable. Invading their privacy is just going way to far
I would rather hope that OSS community can get rid of the stigma that blogs like yours put on the community.
Roy Schestowitz
2009-01-02 14:28:05
Peter2
2009-01-02 16:38:49
And you an your blog are pissing on it as is evident from this article. You disgrace the FOSS community
Roy Schestowitz
2009-01-02 16:41:32
Peter2
2009-01-04 14:42:53
So it is privacy info that cannot be found anywhere but trough your publication. You break privacy because you obviously dislike what someone is saying but without showing any relevant info. That is just plain wrong.
Privacy is a cornerstone in FOSS community. You do not deserve to call yourself FOSS or else you would not publish these kind of articles.
I would suggest you either remove or edit the article but I guess that would be something only people that truly respect the free and open principles would do.
Roy Schestowitz
2009-01-04 15:27:40
erik
2009-01-05 11:24:01
Roy Schestowitz
2009-01-05 11:38:21
Shane Coyle
2009-01-05 13:40:07
How is this all that different, really?
Roy Schestowitz
2009-01-05 13:52:43
This is just information that's on the Web (he left comments under his full name), whereas Maureen O’Gara went traveling to a person's house, making phonecalls to family and stalking in all sorts of ways.
All I do here is glue together bits from the Web, which is public. The person that we talk about here slandered those who favour standards and vested interests are suspected.
Dan O'Brian
2009-01-05 13:55:36
Roy Schestowitz
2009-01-05 14:11:01
Dan O'Brian
2009-01-05 14:16:57
And yes, I agree that's lame.
Roy Schestowitz
2009-01-05 15:03:58
Only yesterday I pointed out that the Usual Suspects were attacking by gaming the system in Digg against me. Over in USENET, lots of libel was posted against me over the holidays.
FWIW, an official from Slashdot told me that they are aware Microsoft games them. it's probably the same in Digg and other sites where their gaming is worthwhile.
Baby In The Bath Water
2009-01-05 15:54:46
A bit hypocritical, don't you think?
Note: this comment was posted from Novell's headquarters.
Roy Schestowitz
2009-01-05 16:08:18
Got any evidence of such a thing? Of course not.
For the record, I find that sockpuppet thing appalling, but what do you want me to do beyond telling him to stop, which I did?
As far as I know, when we make Slashdot it's because some other people/readers submit it (e.g. India protests, OOXML leak). It's nothing to do with "twitter", but you try to characterise it this way to harm this Web site like you always do.
Baby In The Bath Water
2009-01-05 16:25:14
I believe it's been pointed out by G. Michael's and others that twitter does indeed game the article submission system. There's a link that I'm sure he can provide us with (and has done so before) that has an overwhelming amount of evidence to show that twitter does in fact do what I noted in my previous comment.
Good for you that you asked him to stop, but he obviously continues to abuse the system in your favor.
Note: this comment was posted from Novell's headquarters.
Roy Schestowitz
2009-01-05 16:28:26
What would you have done?
Baby In The Bath Water
2009-01-05 16:36:38
Note: this comment was posted from Novell's headquarters.
Roy Schestowitz
2009-01-05 16:43:28
Roy Bixler
2009-01-05 16:44:07
Roy Schestowitz
2009-01-05 16:48:33
Fair point, but remember that some of us suffered at a personal level because of Microsoft TEs.
Baby In The Bath Water
2009-01-05 16:55:42
Note: this comment was posted from Novell's headquarters.
Baby In The Bath Water
2009-01-05 16:56:23
Note: this comment was posted from Novell's headquarters.
Roy Schestowitz
2009-01-05 17:04:34
Gentoo User (and proud of it)
2009-01-05 17:18:12
This has been pointed out by lots of people, with the usual result of having red warnings appended to our posts.
I gather that's where yours are heading as well.
And I'm certain there are enough examples on the IRC logs of Roy praising twitter for posting his stuff to Slashdot, but I'm not about to go looking for them. Maybe that is what he's counting on.
I noticed just this morning for example a post that does the same. He's also playing the usual sockpuppet games again.
@Roy,
I see your "characterization" of one Wikipedia user went extremely well.
Happy new year to everyone, BTW :)
Note: comment arrived from a witch hunter that does not even use GNU/Linux.
G. Michaels
2009-01-06 00:30:59
The link. It now incorporates my little contribution as well, but I had nothing to do with most of what's in that page. I just link to it.
Note: writer of this comment adds absolutely nothing but stalking and personal attacks against readers, as documented here.
dazza
2009-01-07 19:52:25
Roy most normal people who see and read the venom you spout see you as the moral level of OSS and FLOSS in general.
You and this site does huge damge to the movement, you denigrate the OSS and yourself.
Food critices are allways the worst cooks, by that i mean if you cant do anything positive for the OSS movement you resort to this kind of venom.
Its sad to see, that you will drop your morels for your fanatatism.
You give yourself, this site, and the FOSS movement in general a bad name and reputation.
You Roy are doing far more damage than good to OSS.
Note: This is a nymshift of darryl (darryl_@hotmail.com), a troll who also harasses LinuxToday
Roy Schestowitz
2009-01-07 19:58:17
Did you have to nymshift for your trolling?
dazza nick name for darryl
2009-01-08 04:26:43
Sure i get sick of the politician trick of "If you have nothing good to offer, its best to try to accuse the opposition of being bad" but it does not work.
Most of the world see through your FUD, and when your market share in popularity is SO poor, and yet you dont do anything about it but whine about those that are doing so much better than FOSS, even though you've been "in the game" for just as long !
I wonder why the cult does not "get it" and why you cant work out what your doing wrong.
Sure you quote Gates from 10 or more years ago, making out its "current" news.
I dont care anymore, you've dropped the ball, if you ever had it in the first place. But you keep going after lost causes, and dont try to move the state of the art, and keep on.
but keep going, at your present rate of take up, in 200 or so years you might gain a bit of market share.. but i doubt it.
And no im not a MS person at all, i dont use any operating system, i use applications, i could not care less what my OS is, as long as it allows me to use the applications i need to use and it works. not do i care what OS you use. Its just unfortunate that FOSS is not up to the task for me, as it's not for most of the planet.
But good luck anyway. you need it :)
G. Michaels
2009-01-11 05:07:24
Oh god Roy, you must realize how ridiculous this has become? Surely you must :)
Note: writer of this comment adds absolutely nothing but stalking and personal attacks against readers, as documented here.
Franz
2009-02-09 00:20:49
His new Nicks: Blingux and Chrissie
The proof is here: http://webwereld.nl/article/comments/id/54742#comment_387165
probably, astroturfers get paid for every nick they use.
This is the way astroturfers try to get more convincing, by having more personalities whish supports their position
Franz
2009-02-09 00:23:05