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| schestowitz | Those who agree will receive incentives (bribes | Mar 16 17:16 |
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| schestowitz | it's a reward system which ultiamtelty benefits: 1) lawyers (they need business writing patents and suing);2) monopolies. Sadly for (2) (not for (1)), patent trolls came later. | Mar 16 17:17 |
| schestowitz | RMS has explained very eloquently that the myth of small guys being protected by patents is a joke | Mar 16 17:18 |
| Balrog | schestowitz: I'll PM | Mar 16 17:18 |
| schestowitz | Good talk: http://boycottnovell.com/2008/03/... | Mar 16 17:18 |
| schestowitz | I'll look into it | Mar 16 17:19 |
| Balrog | OK. | Mar 16 17:19 |
| Balrog | thank you very much | Mar 16 17:19 |
| schestowitz | Balrog: I see... | Mar 16 17:19 |
| Balrog | yes. :( | Mar 16 17:19 |
| schestowitz | It spreads like bad literature ("war on terrorism") | Mar 16 17:19 |
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| schestowitz | He has a go at Lessig too | Mar 16 17:20 |
| schestowitz | But Lessig has no beard ;-p heh. | Mar 16 17:20 |
| Balrog | heh | Mar 16 17:20 |
| schestowitz | When is "Marx" a curse anyway? | Mar 16 17:20 |
| tessier_ | Since communism scared everyone so much by threatening death that anything associated with it became a curse. | Mar 16 17:21 |
| schestowitz | Hahaha. Last line: "Professor Lessig has his head stuck in the 1930s sand. " | Mar 16 17:21 |
| schestowitz | Remind me of something | Mar 16 17:21 |
| schestowitz | http://www.cypherpunks.to/~pet... | Mar 16 17:22 |
| schestowitz | *reminds | Mar 16 17:22 |
| schestowitz | "(the "bunch of freaking morons" includes Bruce Schneier and Charlie Demerjian of the Inquirer, whom he refers to in a preceding email)." | Mar 16 17:22 |
| schestowitz | He goes nowhere by comparing Lessig to Marx, IMHO | Mar 16 17:22 |
| schestowitz | Lessig is successful financially, unlike those whom he assimilated him to | Mar 16 17:23 |
| tacone | schestowitz: i sent you in prv the link to the italian net-censorship matter | Mar 16 17:23 |
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| schestowitz | Obama won the elections because of PR and ideology of sharing. | Mar 16 17:23 |
| schestowitz | there's a book called "Naked Conversations: How Blogs are Changing the Way.." | Mar 16 17:24 |
| schestowitz | Italy wants to ruin the Web for bloggers | Mar 16 17:25 |
| schestowitz | Classic excuse: pedophiles | Mar 16 17:25 |
| Balrog | he also uses the excuse that the quality of Linux sucks. | Mar 16 17:26 |
| schestowitz | Can't say "NO" to that, so might as well go along and censor bloggers | Mar 16 17:26 |
| Balrog | (but he was using Novell's SUSE 10.1 :( ) | Mar 16 17:26 |
| schestowitz | Balrog: that's a shame. So most of the world uses a platform that "Sux" | Mar 16 17:26 |
| schestowitz | We should advise Google to dump Linux immediately | Mar 16 17:26 |
| Balrog | Unfortunately, free software tends to be worth what you pay for it. Linux enjoys a robust 3% of the market because only 3% of the computer users value their own many hours of time less than the $200 they might save if they bought Windows. Apache wins over the Microsoft product solely because the market for internet servers is so small that it does not justify the expense Microsoft would have to go to, to make their server easier to use than the | Mar 16 17:27 |
| schestowitz | And DreamWorks too. They really need some good proggies like Conficker to get the job done. | Mar 16 17:27 |
| Balrog | << quite | Mar 16 17:27 |
| Balrog | quote * | Mar 16 17:27 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft uses illegal OEM tactics | Mar 16 17:28 |
| schestowitz | People don't chose Windows | Mar 16 17:28 |
| Balrog | I'll be around. PM or email important stuff | Mar 16 17:28 |
| schestowitz | The OEMs 'choose' for them | Mar 16 17:28 |
| schestowitz | I have lots of antitrust material about this, to be posted some time this year | Mar 16 17:28 |
| Balrog | I know. :( | Mar 16 17:28 |
| Balrog | I'll be back in an hour. | Mar 16 17:28 |
| schestowitz | If you don't know the author, why not post it publicly? | Mar 16 17:29 |
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| Have we seen Morgan Stanley analyst Adam Holt in any M$ collusion? | Mar 16 17:35 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR will love this one: Digg Founder Offers Sneak Peek of iPhone 3.0 Copy/Paste Feature < http://www.pcworld.com/article/16128... >. Apple and Digg are 'inventing' copy and paste now. Coming down Mount Sinai with the feature of heaven (the one that they shut down *cough* OpenClip) | Mar 16 17:36 |
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| schestowitz | twitter: what did he say other than bad things? | Mar 16 17:36 |
| Well, he expects Windows 7 to fix things. | Mar 16 17:37 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.linkedin.com/in/adamholt " Adam Holt - Account Director, Microsoft Advertising " | Mar 16 17:37 |
| Not even Intel executives think that's right. | Mar 16 17:37 | |
| schestowitz | Paid shilll | Mar 16 17:37 |
| schestowitz | Where did he write this nonsense? | Mar 16 17:37 |
| bam, thanks | Mar 16 17:37 | |
| schestowitz | Is there a disclosure? | Mar 16 17:37 |
| schestowitz | Show me | Mar 16 17:37 |
| schestowitz | Let's expose the paid shills that generate buzz | Mar 16 17:37 |
| Your link from today's BN, business week. | Mar 16 17:38 | |
| http://www.businessweek.com/ap/finan... | Mar 16 17:38 | |
| " However, the Windows 7 release, expected by the December quarter, should stabilize 2010 prices as companies upgrade." | Mar 16 17:38 | |
| schestowitz | Is this the same person? | Mar 16 17:38 |
| schestowitz | Analyst? | Mar 16 17:38 |
| Got me. I don't know. | Mar 16 17:39 | |
| schestowitz | "Morgan Stanley analyst Adam Holt " | Mar 16 17:39 |
| schestowitz | Doubtful. | Mar 16 17:39 |
| He shows up in BN twice. | Mar 16 17:39 | |
| schestowitz | No intersection | Mar 16 17:39 |
| schestowitz | Where? | Mar 16 17:39 |
| last warning http://boycottnovell.com/2008/1... | Mar 16 17:39 | |
| schestowitz | " February 2005 — Present (4 years 2 months) " | Mar 16 17:40 |
| uhhh, your article was written in 2008 | Mar 16 17:40 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.linkedin.com/pub/dir/?first=+... | Mar 16 17:40 |
| ahhhh | Mar 16 17:41 | |
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| schestowitz | Many people visit BN today. I don't know why except # of posts | Mar 16 17:43 |
| http://www.google.com/search?q=Morgan%20... | Mar 16 17:43 | |
| http://www.computerweekly.com/Home/... | Mar 16 17:44 | |
| seems consistent. | Mar 16 17:44 | |
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| schestowitz | I saw that too. | Mar 16 17:45 |
| schestowitz | Same person though? | Mar 16 17:45 |
| think so, it's hard to tell. | Mar 16 17:45 | |
| schestowitz | Morgan Stanley and MS are close thought | Mar 16 17:45 |
| schestowitz | MG was just being realistic when it said MS is f*ed | Mar 16 17:46 |
| schestowitz | Then it expressed hope (Vista7 to the rescue( | Mar 16 17:46 |
| _Hicham_ | Vista 7 is no rescue | Mar 16 17:46 |
| _Hicham_ | it started with a lot of flaws | Mar 16 17:46 |
| schestowitz | Of course not | Mar 16 17:46 |
| schestowitz | Unless you're in marketing | Mar 16 17:46 |
| The question is if they consistently pump things up as better than they are, even while saying things are getting worse. | Mar 16 17:46 | |
| No big deal now, no one but Adam expects Windows 7 to pick things up. | Mar 16 17:47 | |
| schestowitz | Novell to Present at Morgan Stanley 2009 Technology Conference in San Francisco < http://www.centredaily.com/business/tech... > | Mar 16 17:47 |
| schestowitz | Morgan Stanley = multi-man Cramer (MAD MONEY!!) | Mar 16 17:48 |
| schestowitz | *multi-men | Mar 16 17:48 |
| schestowitz | > No big deal now, no one but Adam expects Windows 7 to pick things up. | Mar 16 17:48 |
| schestowitz | Well, BW readers are deceived | Mar 16 17:48 |
| schestowitz | it's the 'business press' | Mar 16 17:48 |
| schestowitz | People in suits, people who make decisions | Mar 16 17:48 |
| schestowitz | "Let's wait for Vista 7". Stanley's Morgage sez so | Mar 16 17:49 |
| schestowitz | The criterion for selection here is obedience and MS (Morgan Stanley) serves the business that pay it. That's just how those things work. You pump up some names like MS (Morgan Stanley) and then use their press to parrot self-fulfilling prophecies. Analysts are all the same, the ones that get big anyway | Mar 16 17:52 |
| schestowitz | Recent Microsoft patch useless < http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/... >. Covered in BN too | Mar 16 17:53 |
| schestowitz | The copyrights cartel gets the public to pay to defend it: UK agency will discourage piracy < http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/new... > | Mar 16 17:54 |
| schestowitz | They should promote GPL and CC instead, then "discourage" maximalists | Mar 16 17:55 |
| http://slashdot.org/firehose... | Mar 16 17:56 | |
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| schestowitz | The formerly impressive Satyam is AWOL in a matter of just months: Satyam loses Oz contract < http://www.channelregister.co.uk/20... >. Imagine how quickly companies like SCO or Microsoft sink due to fraud | Mar 16 18:01 |
| tessier_ | This is a little bit different from what either SCO or Microsoft are doing. | Mar 16 18:02 |
| tessier_ | So far there have been no such clear accounting "irregularities" in either. | Mar 16 18:02 |
| schestowitz | tessier: not true | Mar 16 18:02 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft was caught | Mar 16 18:02 |
| schestowitz | Fraud | Mar 16 18:02 |
| schestowitz | They paid their way out | Mar 16 18:02 |
| schestowitz | Even Madoff had people blow the whistle on him for years, but regulators conveniently ignore... until he admit this by blowing the whistle on himself. | Mar 16 18:03 |
| schestowitz | People sang praises about his wealth... kind of like the 'rich' Microsoft (which for a fact has lost all its savings and who knows how bad it really is) | Mar 16 18:04 |
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| heh, an algorithm to determine your contributions to the company - http://slashdot.org/firehose.pl?o... | Mar 16 18:05 | |
| what an easy way to "paper" someone's file. | Mar 16 18:05 | |
| how goes M$'s vanishing cash pile these days? | Mar 16 18:06 | |
| People keep saying they have $20B in the bank, but that's got to be a dated figure. I thought they would be at zero or debt by now. | Mar 16 18:07 | |
| schestowitz | Some people lost all their money and entered debt even. | Mar 16 18:08 |
| schestowitz | They keep quiet about it | Mar 16 18:08 |
| yeah, but M$ people are loud and usually full of something other than cash. | Mar 16 18:09 | |
| full of beans and other vaporware | Mar 16 18:09 | |
| schestowitz | twitter: Microsoft left you a messge | Mar 16 18:10 |
| schestowitz | They wanted to say, "thank you for refurbishing our campus and developing it further" | Mar 16 18:10 |
| It's like full monte but bigger. http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl... | Mar 16 18:10 | |
| schestowitz | Madoff bragged about big numbers | Mar 16 18:10 |
| how nice of M$, but I've been broke for years and don't pay taxes to much of anyone. | Mar 16 18:11 | |
| schestowitz | But he forgor the minus sign :-D | Mar 16 18:11 |
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| no job. it kind of makes the "no new taxes" rhetoric sound empty. | Mar 16 18:11 | |
| schestowitz | "Economists forecast industrial production would drop 1.3 percent, according to the median projection in a Bloomberg News survey of 68 economists. Estimates ranged from declines of 2.2 percent to 0.3 percent. " | Mar 16 18:11 |
| thanks for nothing, GWB. | Mar 16 18:12 | |
| schestowitz | twitter, tessier what does the US export? | Mar 16 18:12 |
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| used to be food | Mar 16 18:12 | |
| schestowitz | I know | Mar 16 18:12 |
| weapons | Mar 16 18:12 | |
| schestowitz | for wrong reasons | Mar 16 18:12 |
| autos | Mar 16 18:12 | |
| schestowitz | Like in South America | Mar 16 18:12 |
| schestowitz | They would make all sorts of fgood that's useles | Mar 16 18:12 |
| schestowitz | Live in poverty | Mar 16 18:12 |
| schestowitz | And then they depended on food imports from the US | Mar 16 18:12 |
| schestowitz | So they gave the US what they wanted | Mar 16 18:13 |
| schestowitz | And then depended on it for food | Mar 16 18:13 |
| schestowitz | By growing the wrong thinks | Mar 16 18:13 |
| before ADM started their corn fuel fraud, the US provided a lot of corn around the world. | Mar 16 18:13 | |
| schestowitz | Like cattle for burgets and stuff. | Mar 16 18:13 |
| schestowitz | twitter: does the US export autos like it used to? | Mar 16 18:13 |
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| GM and friends flirt with bankruptcy. | Mar 16 18:13 | |
| schestowitz | Corn fuel apparently takes more fuel than it generates | Mar 16 18:14 |
| schestowitz | I hear it from many sources | Mar 16 18:14 |
| schestowitz | Independent | Mar 16 18:14 |
| yes, it was a terrible fraud | Mar 16 18:14 | |
| schestowitz | Ethanol could be argued to be work on progress... | Mar 16 18:14 |
| schestowitz | Same with solar power I heard | Mar 16 18:14 |
| people in Mexico have rioted over higher priced food and hunger | Mar 16 18:14 | |
| schestowitz | Takes more to produce solar panels than they generate in their lifetime. | Mar 16 18:14 |
| ugh, even the printed ones? | Mar 16 18:14 | |
| they have low efficiency, but there's a US factory making giga watts worth of them every year. | Mar 16 18:15 | |
| RMS pointed to an interesting bio fuel idea from Lovelock, the guy who told everyone about the ozone hole. | Mar 16 18:16 | |
| his idea was to make charcoal out of agricultural waste. The effluent is fuel and the charcoal sequesters carbon. | Mar 16 18:17 | |
| if you don't burn the charcoal | Mar 16 18:17 | |
| schestowitz | pollies discover blogging: Despite being seen by some as a joke figure after a series of embarrassments during his time as deputy prime minister, Prescott's rehabilitation at the head of Labour's internet assault on the Tories has been sanctioned by Gordon Brown. http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009... | Mar 16 18:17 |
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| it could actually make a dent in global warming. Lovelock did not think people would go for it and thinks we are doomed to a 50% population crash this century. | Mar 16 18:18 | |
| schestowitz | That's why I'd advocate birth control | Mar 16 18:18 |
| Agriculture can be a reputable export. More honest than arms sales. | Mar 16 18:18 | |
| schestowitz | Reduce population size or face atrociuty | Mar 16 18:19 |
| schestowitz | But it's adverse to human nature | Mar 16 18:19 |
| schestowitz | We're like the dinosaurs | Mar 16 18:19 |
| schestowitz | http://coffee.geek.nz/te-papa-d... "Te Papa reserves the right to approve the use of hypertext links to the Te Papa website and you must remove or cease any link at Te Papa’s request. Written permission is required before a link to any part of the Te Papa site is established from an external site. " | Mar 16 18:21 |
| schestowitz | Nature's destruction in progress: ‘Green’ dams hasten rape of Borneo forests < http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/ne... > | Mar 16 18:22 |
| it won't be enough to compensate victims, but Madoff's $800M of property is fair game. http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p... | Mar 16 18:25 | |
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| schestowitz | "More than $100 million in real estate, cash, bonds, art, autos, boats and other property owned by Bernard Madoff and his wife, Ruth Madoff, is subject to forfeiture, prosecutors said. " | Mar 16 18:29 |
| schestowitz | What about cousins and all? He did spread his loot around, didn't he? They need to collect everything he has given to others | Mar 16 18:30 |
| schestowitz | "So finally, free culture is nothing more than, and nothing less than, mankind’s natural propensity to communicate, collaborate and share. It is not a fad, it goes much deeper. Characterising it in narrow terms as a politically motivated cult, or as a commercially damaging movement is missing the big picture, for these things are not of its essence. It first and foremost is a technology-facilitated extension of our normal modes o | Mar 16 18:31 |
| schestowitz | f behaviour — and this is why it is inevitable, profound and unstoppable." | Mar 16 18:31 |
| schestowitz | http://ralpress.org/2009/03/16/fre... What's with the headline? They use words from a Microsoft shill. | Mar 16 18:31 |
| schestowitz | "Not surprisingly, when a technology becomes obsolete, firms who specialize in exploiting that technology go out of business." http://techliberation.com/2009/03/03/... | Mar 16 18:34 |
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| MinceR | re the jesusPhone 3.0 link -- the digg founder being a crApple cultist explains digg itself being a wretched hive of crApple fanboyism, i guess... | Mar 16 18:37 |
| schestowitz | With the thief and the patent troll: http://www.mactropolis.com/fun-st... | Mar 16 18:41 |
| schestowitz | Actually 2 patent trolls | Mar 16 18:41 |
| schestowitz | Gates too has its own trolling firm in the making. Searette | Mar 16 18:41 |
| schestowitz | Adult kids: http://www.iphonesavior.com... | Mar 16 18:42 |
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| Freetards, people who believe in imaginary property but demand costless entertainment. They don't understand sharing and place a high value on their own works instead of sharing. | Mar 16 18:56 | |
| They use crap like Windows and Word when better alternatives are available. | Mar 16 18:57 | |
| Everything about copyright is cool for them, as long as they don't pay the bills. | Mar 16 18:58 | |
| This is how we should steal the term "freetard" and use it against the M$ shills who created it. They have no understanding of free culture. | Mar 16 18:59 | |
| Paytards, people who think it's morally correct to pay evil companies like M$ and RIAA members for stuff normal people share without cost. | Mar 16 19:00 | |
| schestowitz | I think, although I ain't sure, that Microsoft shill Lyons made it up | Mar 16 19:00 |
| It does not matter who made it up, let's jam the concept down their throats. | Mar 16 19:00 | |
| schestowitz | Mins ago I'd found: http://techdirt.com/articles... (If Your Business Model Revolves Around Taking Some Feature Away From People, You're Doing It Wrong) | Mar 16 19:00 |
| schestowitz | Terry McBride: Songs Are Not Copyright. Songs Are Emotions < http://techdirt.com/art... > | Mar 16 19:01 |
| *schestowitz listens to gigs of music whose creators want it to be 'copies' (shared) | Mar 16 19:01 | |
| They don't understand free culture and should be shown up for it. | Mar 16 19:01 | |
| schestowitz | *codpied | Mar 16 19:01 |
| schestowitz | Free culture is something for the Murdoch press to shy away from | Mar 16 19:01 |
| schestowitz | Not many people will know it exists this way | Mar 16 19:01 |
| schestowitz | Kind of like Nader | Mar 16 19:01 |
| They can't hide forever. | Mar 16 19:02 | |
| schestowitz | 'You' don't want to give them voice. Keep them marglialised | Mar 16 19:02 |
| Music you can share is cool. | Mar 16 19:02 | |
| schestowitz | It succeeds too | Mar 16 19:02 |
| Software you can share is cool. | Mar 16 19:02 | |
| schestowitz | I hope ther MAFIAA enforce harder | Mar 16 19:02 |
| schestowitz | BUT | Mar 16 19:02 |
| schestowitz | Not kill protocols | Mar 16 19:02 |
| schestowitz | The good guys use torrent too | Mar 16 19:02 |
| schestowitz | Comes vs Microsoft was a hot torrent | Mar 16 19:03 |
| I came close to deleting my non free music collection but decided it is better to understand popular culture and wield it. | Mar 16 19:03 | |
| schestowitz | Had it not been for torrent, maybe all those Microsoft crimes (inc. Wal-Mart taskforce) would stay on some guy's PCs.. a guy with an NDA | Mar 16 19:03 |
| of course, shared knowledge has value. | Mar 16 19:04 | |
| hoarded information makes you a freak, out of touch and suspicious. | Mar 16 19:04 | |
| schestowitz | http://torrentfreak.com/sxsw-20... Rearm | Mar 16 19:04 |
| schestowitz | It's pretty good. I listen to it these days. If only it were oggs too | Mar 16 19:04 |
| I enjoy the internet archive's live music collection. | Mar 16 19:05 | |
| Jam to the New Orleans Radiators. | Mar 16 19:05 | |
| schestowitz | Economics fallacy: By banning online sales, are the Girl Scouts failing our daughters? < http://www.newsweek.com/id/188714 > | Mar 16 19:06 |
| http://www.archive.org/browse.php?c... | Mar 16 19:06 | |
| trmanco | hello | Mar 16 19:07 |
| Here's the Radiators. 910 shows going back to the early 1980s. http://www.archive.org/details/Radiators | Mar 16 19:07 | |
| schestowitz | haha. Dinosaurs: Columbia Journalism Professor: Fuck New Media < http://techdirt.com/articles/20090... > | Mar 16 19:07 |
| http://www.archive.org/search.ph... | Mar 16 19:08 | |
| pardon me, there are only 893 concerts available. | Mar 16 19:08 | |
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| I don't think new media's audience will hear the dinosaur's cry. | Mar 16 19:09 | |
| schestowitz | Wow. Big collections there: http://www.archive.org/details/rad199... | Mar 16 19:09 |
| schestowitz | "This is illegal competition as seen from IFPI. It /has/ to be stopped! Now! Shut down bittorrent! Shut down the internet!" | Mar 16 19:10 |
| schestowitz | *LOL* | Mar 16 19:10 |
| The result of sharing is endless abundance. | Mar 16 19:10 | |
| schestowitz | Kind of like Microsoft calls Linux illegal competition | Mar 16 19:10 |
| schestowitz | Now you need to buy patents, not software | Mar 16 19:10 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft wants to buy some laws | Mar 16 19:11 |
| schestowitz | Why compete when you can call the competition criminal with new laws? | Mar 16 19:11 |
| schestowitz | Business to them is like a /right/ | Mar 16 19:11 |
| Their power to buy is going the same place their sales. | Mar 16 19:11 | |
| schestowitz | "We used to earn X$, please ensure we don't lose our job,Senator" | Mar 16 19:11 |
| No bribe, no jibe. | Mar 16 19:12 | |
| schestowitz | Wow. Just got interesting mail. | Mar 16 19:12 |
| The Radiators always make me smile. | Mar 16 19:12 | |
| schestowitz | "This looks like it might be worse retribution than what happened to Peter Quinn: http://news.google.fi/news?q... " | Mar 16 19:12 |
| schestowitz | Could this be targeted? | Mar 16 19:12 |
| schestowitz | He promoted MS alternatives and FOSS. | Mar 16 19:13 |
| I don't have the details. | Mar 16 19:13 | |
| schestowitz | I've just asked for some | Mar 16 19:14 |
| schestowitz | Maybe they frame him or something | Mar 16 19:14 |
| schestowitz | he didn't do anything | Mar 16 19:14 |
| schestowitz | But they associated himself with some old employee of him | Mar 16 19:14 |
| schestowitz | *his | Mar 16 19:14 |
| schestowitz | If they want to find dirt to dethrone him, they'll find it somewhere | Mar 16 19:15 |
| For all I know, M$ provided the cash found. | Mar 16 19:15 | |
| schestowitz | If not direct dirt, then dirt about someone he 'knows'... dirt by association is familiar to me. | Mar 16 19:15 |
| yes, made up dirt too. | Mar 16 19:15 | |
| The Justice Department, FBI and other organizations need to be cleaned out with a fire hose. | Mar 16 19:16 | |
| Homeland security should be abolished - that would save a lot of money the Gov does not have. | Mar 16 19:17 | |
| schestowitz | Won't happen | Mar 16 19:17 |
| Yes, Obama looks like a wimp so far. Protecting wiretaps and ACTA. | Mar 16 19:18 | |
| It's still early. | Mar 16 19:18 | |
| Computer World is not always a good source of information. They all but shout, "there will be no government free software revolution" | Mar 16 19:19 | |
| schestowitz | IDC | Mar 16 19:22 |
| schestowitz | They don't want it | Mar 16 19:22 |
| schestowitz | They would be out of business otally | Mar 16 19:22 |
| trmanco | http://www.boston.com/business/tech... | Mar 16 19:22 |
| schestowitz | And the writers go down with them, not just the anal-ysts | Mar 16 19:22 |
| schestowitz | trmanco: got it already | Mar 16 19:22 |
| schestowitz | see BN | Mar 16 19:22 |
| trmanco | ah ok, I just got home, did not read feeds yet | Mar 16 19:23 |
| btdownloading some of sxsw | Mar 16 19:24 | |
| it's really slow. my ISP has been busted for messing with torrents before | Mar 16 19:25 | |
| 40 K/s max so far, projected finish time 44 hours | Mar 16 19:26 | |
| zero up | Mar 16 19:26 | |
| trmanco | traffic shaping? | Mar 16 19:28 |
| schestowitz | Maybe. | Mar 16 19:29 |
| schestowitz | At least it's going. | Mar 16 19:29 |
| schestowitz | They should throttle Windows update | Mar 16 19:29 |
| schestowitz | Useless POS./ | Mar 16 19:30 |
| balzac | "i am linux" | Mar 16 19:31 |
| balzac | "i am legend" | Mar 16 19:32 |
| balzac | "i am sparticus" | Mar 16 19:32 |
| balzac | "this is SPARTAAAA!!" | Mar 16 19:33 |
| fraud survives downturn http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-d... | Mar 16 19:33 | |
| no surprise there | Mar 16 19:34 | |
| merged banks are even bigger and dumber than their big dumb parts. | Mar 16 19:34 | |
| stupidity, it's a product not a sum | Mar 16 19:34 | |
| _Hicham_ | balzac : u r the incarnation of linux | Mar 16 19:35 |
| balzac | gnu | Mar 16 19:35 |
| balzac | i am one manifestation of gnu | Mar 16 19:36 |
| it is what you make of it | Mar 16 19:36 | |
| torrent is moving now | Mar 16 19:36 | |
| balzac | i am a gnu citizen | Mar 16 19:36 |
| balzac | gnubermensch | Mar 16 19:37 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft is getting aggressive now < http://boycottnovell.com/2009... > | Mar 16 19:40 |
| trmanco | troll are starting to infect the ubuntu newsgroup | Mar 16 19:40 |
| balzac | well, nevermind "gnubermensch", it has bad connotations | Mar 16 19:40 |
| trmanco | trolls* | Mar 16 19:40 |
| schestowitz | "The study noted that the spike in fraudulent activity cases can be partially attributed to more vigorous reporting and investigations. " *Now* they realise it's time to watch over? | Mar 16 19:41 |
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| balzac | trmanco: url? | Mar 16 19:41 |
| trmanco | 1 sec | Mar 16 19:41 |
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| trmanco | ah right | Mar 16 19:42 |
| trmanco | google doesn't carry this group :| | Mar 16 19:42 |
| trmanco | balzac, no link sorry | Mar 16 19:42 |
| balzac | ok | Mar 16 19:45 |
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| Goblin | hi all! | Mar 16 19:46 |
| Intel goes for AMD's throat. | Mar 16 19:49 | |
| "AMD's former manufacturing division opened for business last week as GlobalFoundries, but the spin-off may run afoul of AMD's 2001 cross-licensing agreement with Intel. Indeed, Intel has formally accused AMD of violating the agreement, and threatened to terminate the company's licenses in 60 days if a resolution is not found. Intel contends that GlobalFoundries is not a subsidiary of AMD, and thus is not covered by the licensing | Mar 16 19:49 | |
| http://slashdot.org/articl... | Mar 16 19:49 | |
| or | Mar 16 19:49 | |
| http://techreport.com/discussion... | Mar 16 19:49 | |
| balzac | you know what website is really annoying? experts-exchange.com | Mar 16 19:55 |
| balzac | I keep finding their crap near the top of google page results for lots of different IT-related queries | Mar 16 19:55 |
| balzac | and you don't get the answer, you get a thing which asks you to pay to join experts-exchange.com | Mar 16 19:55 |
| balzac | Google should knock their authority down a few notches, they're very, very annoying. | Mar 16 19:56 |
| balzac | /j #gsoc | Mar 16 19:58 |
| balzac | oops | Mar 16 19:58 |
| balzac | /j #gsoc | Mar 16 19:58 |
| balzac | that leading space... | Mar 16 19:58 |
| schestowitz | Hey, Goblin | Mar 16 19:59 |
| MinceR | you can view the ExpertSexchange answers without paying, actually | Mar 16 20:00 |
| MinceR | iirc they're shown in the google cache | Mar 16 20:00 |
| schestowitz | Or just change headers? | Mar 16 20:01 |
| MinceR | dunno | Mar 16 20:02 |
| MinceR | (in the google cache, they're at the bottom of the page) | Mar 16 20:02 |
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| Goblin | great new article Roy. | Mar 16 20:27 |
| Goblin | wow, 14 updates in 8.10 for today. Just noticed...Puts MS to shame when Canonical puts so much effort into keep the OS updated. | Mar 16 20:28 |
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| schestowitz | Let's see how Obama can combat white-collar crime: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29714402/rs222 (Obama seeking ways to block AIG bonuses) | Mar 16 20:43 |
| schestowitz | http://www.msversus.org/microsoft-r... (Microsoft Restricts Free & Fair Use) | Mar 16 20:46 |
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| schestowitz | Hmmm.. "Bill Gates is involved in Eugenics... The "good work" he is throwing $ at in Afrika is earmarked mostly for population control... His Father was top Dog in "planned Parent-hood. IBM set him up ... " http://digg.com/microsoft/Microsof... Sounds like Alex Jones baloney | Mar 16 20:46 |
| schestowitz | I've finally written that story about India and Microsoft versus FUSS: http://digg.com/linux_unix/India_Moves... | Mar 16 20:47 |
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| schestowitz | *FOSS | Mar 16 20:48 |
| Balrog | schestowitz: any comments on that one? | Mar 16 20:49 |
| Balrog | (what I was discussing previously) | Mar 16 20:49 |
| schestowitz | No, none of the RMS slur | Mar 16 20:49 |
| Balrog | ok. The ignorance I see is appaling | Mar 16 20:49 |
| Balrog | appalling * | Mar 16 20:50 |
| trmanco | "Last but not least, gedit is now available on MS Windows [*]" | Mar 16 20:51 |
| trmanco | [*] python plugins are not yet supported on windows | Mar 16 20:51 |
| schestowitz | His Wikipedia picture changed: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stallman | Mar 16 20:51 |
| Balrog | new picture :) | Mar 16 20:51 |
| schestowitz | Much better now with the shorter beard. It used to show some horrific pictures of him, maybe because of vandals | Mar 16 20:52 |
| toxic stream leaking from Redmond http://slashdot.org/firehose... | Mar 16 20:52 | |
| schestowitz | twitter: yes, Sweaty uses the bathroom there. | Mar 16 20:52 |
| I like the long beard. | Mar 16 20:52 | |
| schestowitz | Mike Elgan pushes Windows stories | Mar 16 20:53 |
| schestowitz | What a surprise. | Mar 16 20:53 |
| schestowitz | Not | Mar 16 20:53 |
| The long hair too. Looks like some sort of Moses. | Mar 16 20:53 | |
| schestowitz | IDC + self confessed "Windows guy" + army of PR people = FP? | Mar 16 20:53 |
| binspam | Mar 16 20:54 | |
| There was an interesting moment when some AC claimed CWMike was a twitter sock puppet. The usual munchinks then tore CWMike up. | Mar 16 20:55 | |
| What a bunch of morons. | Mar 16 20:55 | |
| ha ha | Mar 16 20:55 | |
| When PR agencies collide. | Mar 16 20:56 | |
| Balrog | heh | Mar 16 20:58 |
| Balrog | http://www.macrumors.com/2009/... | Mar 16 20:58 |
| hmm, Slashdot troll told me there was. | Mar 16 20:59 | |
| SciFi becomes SyFy in move that shows NBC idiocy on all levels. http://entertainment.slashdot.org/article... | Mar 16 21:00 | |
| Balrog | twitter: right now we're not sure | Mar 16 21:00 |
| Balrog | it will take some reverse-engineering to figure out :) | Mar 16 21:00 |
| Balrog | it's probably a simple high-frequency pulse system anyway | Mar 16 21:01 |
| Balrog | or some form of pulse coding over the microphone lines that don't distort audio | Mar 16 21:01 |
| whole thing is strange | Mar 16 21:02 | |
| Balrog | the whole point is that the 'DRM in headphones!!! RUN!!!!' argument was totally premature | Mar 16 21:02 |
| like I want something with marketing signaling instead? What's the difference between that and DRM? | Mar 16 21:03 | |
| If the device treats one set of headphones one way and another some other way, the device has digital restrictions in it. | Mar 16 21:03 | |
| Balrog | twitter: there are no other headphones yet. You have to compare headphones with buttons. | Mar 16 21:04 |
| Balrog | Headphones without buttons work, but you lose the benefit of buttons. Once more is learned about how this works, we'll know if it's drm or just a clever signaling system | Mar 16 21:05 |
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| The only useful signaling I can imagine is device ID, so the shuffle knows what kind of headphones are plugged in and can set eq levels. | Mar 16 21:06 | |
| It would be better to just have flat responses. | Mar 16 21:06 | |
| other capabilities should come from the buttons themselves. | Mar 16 21:07 | |
| Apple should publish the signaling scheme so anyone could make headphones that work. | Mar 16 21:07 | |
| the rumor site, for what it's worth, suggests the signaling is for marketing purposes. | Mar 16 21:08 | |
| I don't care much because I already have a reasonable portable music player | Mar 16 21:08 | |
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| schestowitz | yes, amarok | Mar 16 21:32 |
| Rockbox, if I wanted a heavier device | Mar 16 21:34 | |
| my old TrekStor works like a shuffle with a nice display. | Mar 16 21:34 | |
| ogg play, usb mass storage | Mar 16 21:34 | |
| schestowitz | Here we go again: 10 reasons why KDE is better than GNOME < http://blog.hyperfish.org/2009/10-rea... > | Mar 16 21:34 |
| schestowitz | Is Debian listening to its users? < http://blog.stone-head.org/is-d... > | Mar 16 21:35 |
| Debian works for me. | Mar 16 21:36 | |
| schestowitz | fwbuilder: Manage Firewalls Professionally < http://debaday.debian.net/2009/03... > | Mar 16 21:42 |
| schestowitz | Chromium on Ubuntu ! [HOW TO] < http://www.stefanoforenza.com/chro... >. If Google mistreats Linux with Chrome,then it deserves no place on Linux (yet) | Mar 16 21:43 |
| schestowitz | http://gquigs.blogspot.com/2009... "I had finally finished my We're Linux video when I find out the Linux Foundations website doesn't support Ogg :(. (I can convert to other formats fine, but still)" | Mar 16 21:46 |
| schestowitz | Someone should tell the Linux Foundation about patents and all. That's why I don't trust these people. They use twitter too, not identi.ca. They care about Freedom not at all. | Mar 16 21:47 |
| schestowitz | Install Chromium Browser on Arch Linux < http://blog.zelut.org/2009/03/14/ins... > | Mar 16 21:47 |
| schestowitz | Nice comical truth: Reason why people who work with computers have so much free time < http://www.benkevan.com/blog/reason-why-... > | Mar 16 21:50 |
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| schestowitz | Inspirational: Finnish computer expert fits finger prosthesis with USB < http://www.monstersandcritics.com/news... > | Mar 16 21:55 |
| schestowitz | CNET spreads *NIX bread myth: "Some of you have beards. I know, I've seen them. Now, I know this isn't a gadget per se, but it's not fashion, either. It's got a function. You need to protect and care for your beards, lest you lose your Linux admin superpowers." http://news.cnet.com/8301-179... | Mar 16 21:58 |
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| schestowitz | someone copies phoronix (new parasite):: http://www.pressreleasepoint.com... | Mar 16 22:04 |
| MinceR | gn | Mar 16 22:17 |
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| trmanco | http://www.hiprank.com/arch-lin... | Mar 16 22:56 |
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| oiaohm | I think I have found the biggest thing MS FUDDERS want to keep alive. Realtime vs Desktop vs Server. They don't want to see that come 1. | Mar 16 23:55 |
| schestowitz | What's the substance of it? | Mar 16 23:55 |
| oiaohm | That they are completely different OS design required. Even that NT it self the the biggest case that they are not. | Mar 16 23:57 |