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| britney | i like lynx but my two main e-mail accounts are with protonmail and tutanota and they require javascript to do e2e encryption | Jul 19 00:00 |
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| elephant | i've spend the last weeks to fix more than 100 issues when cross-compiling with GNU/FSF autotools involved, for example | Jul 19 00:00 |
| phanes | so | Jul 19 00:00 |
| phanes | wtf is the deal with daniel pocock | Jul 19 00:01 |
| elephant | i mean, when i see the GNU/FSF license banner anywhere... this triggers clinical psychosis | Jul 19 00:01 |
| phanes | every time ive talked to him he's been lucid but i dont understand his campaigns or their utility, or what the history is there | Jul 19 00:01 |
| elephant | i need to review the gigatron ttl, seems this is the last remaing system | Jul 19 00:04 |
| elephant | z80 is still useful, because it's cheap and introductory literature exists... | Jul 19 00:04 |
| elephant | gigatron control language, native assembly etc. that's not easy | Jul 19 00:05 |
| elephant | and given the situation surrounding compilers, GCC, to name that one again, i am not willing to rely on any of this any longer | Jul 19 00:05 |
| elephant | nor linux kernel, any of the BSD, none of this | Jul 19 00:05 |
| britney | elephant, what OS do you use? | Jul 19 00:06 |
| elephant | linux compiler.h somewhere: #if IBM GCC #elif MAPPLE CLANG #else #message "not endorsed by pentagon made in usa" #endif | Jul 19 00:06 |
| elephant | britney: currently i still got linux kernel, with some custom c-only toolchain system profile, fiddled together with gentoo | Jul 19 00:07 |
| britney | freebsd kinda reminds me of gentoo | Jul 19 00:07 |
| elephant | *BSD aren't acceptable for me, because llvm/clang | Jul 19 00:07 |
| elephant | if OpenBSD continued with PCC, maybe then, with llvm/clan and gcc they are out alike | Jul 19 00:08 |
| elephant | and gentoo got many issues too, cross-compiling anything outside their @system set (which doesn't at least include their own release management tooling, catalyst, because it fails cross-compile) | Jul 19 00:09 |
| DaemonFC | https://i.redd.it/d8z5h1xy4ec91.jpg | Jul 19 00:09 |
| elephant | meaning, the entire free software stack is practically wrecked | Jul 19 00:10 |
| phanes | yeah pretty much | Jul 19 00:10 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: That doesn't mean "PowerShell 4", right? | Jul 19 00:11 |
| phanes | if LFS dies, there will likely not be another gcc/libc/gnu distro not based on another ever again | Jul 19 00:11 |
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| DaemonFC | No. | Jul 19 00:12 |
| phanes | crosstool-ng is just a wrapper for that toolchain and their docs and usage are just as ambigious as gcc's is for that purpose | Jul 19 00:12 |
| elephant | phanes: aboriginal linux was another such approach, the developer had left some remarks on the mailing lists, why he quit | Jul 19 00:12 |
| elephant | because, GNU toolchain issues, GPL3 (not sure why that's a problem), aboriginal is dead too | Jul 19 00:13 |
| MinceR | https://voidlinux.org/packages/?arch=x86_64&q=gcc | Jul 19 00:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-voidlinux.org | Enter the void - Packages | Jul 19 00:13 | |
| phanes | nobody knows how to cross-compile a sysroot anymore | Jul 19 00:13 |
| bnchs | i'm thinking of using openBSD | Jul 19 00:13 |
| MinceR | i see OpenRISC (or1k) here | Jul 19 00:13 |
| bnchs | is it good? | Jul 19 00:13 |
| MinceR | re 19 003018 < elephant> GNU/FSF, their #1 project, GCC, targets specific vendors | Jul 19 00:13 |
| elephant | bnchs: it can't be much worse than GNU/Linux | Jul 19 00:13 |
| MinceR | C++ is a multiparadigm language, it supports OOP, and it support non-OOP as well | Jul 19 00:14 |
| bnchs | elephant: i mean it doesn't suffer from the problems GNU/Linux has now | Jul 19 00:15 |
| MinceR | s/rt /rts / | Jul 19 00:15 |
| elephant | MinceR: i considered migrating the c-only toolchain profile to the void package management system, because, it's written in C at least | Jul 19 00:16 |
| elephant | however, it's too much work | Jul 19 00:16 |
| MinceR | not the point | Jul 19 00:17 |
| elephant | and regardless of the package management, cross-compilation is a nightmare | Jul 19 00:17 |
| MinceR | also irrelevant | Jul 19 00:17 |
| MinceR | if you have an OpenRISC system to build binaries on, you can do so with GCC | Jul 19 00:18 |
| MinceR | if you don't, you'll need to cross-compile or bootstrap somehow | Jul 19 00:18 |
| elephant | i want to remove GCC, fully remove it | Jul 19 00:18 |
| MinceR | and you can cross-compile with GCC | Jul 19 00:18 |
| MinceR | yeah, you want to remove GCC because it "targets specific vendors", even though it demonstrably doesn't | Jul 19 00:18 |
| MinceR | suit yourself | Jul 19 00:19 |
| elephant | i am done with GCC/GNU/FSF... ideally there wasn't any single piece of software from them remaining anywhere | Jul 19 00:19 |
| elephant | as far as GCC is concerned, simply name one vendor who published their Verilog/HDL and a self-hosting system for development could be maintained | Jul 19 00:20 |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/2207093 | Jul 19 00:20 |
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| elephant | MinceR: i can tell you how many there are: 0, Null, Nothing | Jul 19 00:20 |
| elephant | this is what j-core.org tried to accomplish, with their turtle board... see how this ended... | Jul 19 00:21 |
| MinceR | https://openrisc.io/ | Jul 19 00:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-openrisc.io | OpenRISC - OpenRISC | Jul 19 00:21 | |
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| XRevan86 | https://bellingcat.com/news/2022/07/18/donbas-doubles-the-search-for-girkin-and-plotnitskys-cover-identities | Jul 19 00:21 |
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| MinceR | https://riscv.org/ | Jul 19 00:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-riscv.org | RISC-V International | Jul 19 00:22 | |
| MinceR | https://j-core.org/ | Jul 19 00:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-j-core.org | J-core Open Processor | Jul 19 00:23 | |
| MinceR | "Current linux, gcc, binutils, and musl-libc versions support j-core out of the box." | Jul 19 00:23 |
| elephant | _CURRENT_ | Jul 19 00:23 |
| elephant | this is the GCC compiler versions written in C++ | Jul 19 00:23 |
| MinceR | oh right, you demand that they do software development with a time machine | Jul 19 00:23 |
| elephant | good luck, and have fun, porting a gcc compiler natively onto a J-core board, and do "free software" with this | Jul 19 00:24 |
| elephant | a single core system, clocked at who knows 400MHz, and compile GCC itself at least | Jul 19 00:24 |
| elephant | tell me when you're done, in 10 years | Jul 19 00:24 |
| elephant | with FPGA and open-source/free software tooling for this - j-core.org - dicussed it, the FPGAs with J2 deployed onto won't clock higher than 10MHz or something | Jul 19 00:25 |
| elephant | some lattice ICE ECP5, don't remember precisely | Jul 19 00:26 |
| elephant | or you may pick some overpriced Xilinx/Altera and play with some Wintel PC nearby to do the magic | Jul 19 00:26 |
| elephant | all this is f*** and screwed at that many levels, no way, there isn't anything free as in free remaining | Jul 19 00:27 |
| elephant | not with GNU/FSF/Linux IBM Wintel Pentagon whoever | Jul 19 00:27 |
| elephant | if however, this is the idea, at least the c++ cancer was removed, this will cut down compile-time 90% already | Jul 19 00:30 |
| elephant | the next, if the GCC horror was wiped (not to mention Mappel LLVM), if GCC was fully replaced with TinyCC, this improved another 90% down with compilation times of some useful software | Jul 19 00:31 |
| MinceR | code would probably run faster on a 400MHz J-core if it was compiled with optimizations enabled :> | Jul 19 00:32 |
| elephant | then, and only then, free software can be deployed onto some hardware (with opensource Verilog/HDL) which could barely be considered free as in free | Jul 19 00:32 |
| elephant | MinceR: not "run" some code, i talk about development on and with free software on free hardware | Jul 19 00:32 |
| MinceR | right, you never run code, you only compile it and then throw it away | Jul 19 00:32 |
| elephant | pardon? what's free software supposed to be? software whose sources i review and write and compile? or some binary shit fiddled together on IBM Wintel PC? | Jul 19 00:33 |
| MinceR | the idea is that you can write it, review it, build it and use it | Jul 19 00:37 |
| elephant | yes, and? what GNU/FSF IBM Wintel Pentago advertise don't keep up to anything promised. | Jul 19 00:38 |
| elephant | have fun with g++ on a j2 turtle board cloced at 200MHz with 256MiB RAM or similar | Jul 19 00:38 |
| elephant | see for yourself, how much "free software" remains then... almost nothing | Jul 19 00:38 |
| elephant | as a cornerstone, a rule of thumb, no C++ anywhere, not a single line of it... | Jul 19 00:40 |
| elephant | and this was sabotaged too, it's not some new idea, this was how it was supposed to be, to stay safe with some parts of what was supposed to be "free" as in free | Jul 19 00:40 |
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| MinceR | i'm pretty sure i used C++ in a 120MHz Pentium with gcc | Jul 19 00:43 |
| MinceR | (or djgpp) | Jul 19 00:44 |
| elephant | and what? Intel didn't publish any Verilog/HDL for any later than their i8080/8086 (or Zilog Z80), meaning you got some compiler and no appropriate hardware with Verilog/HDL available | Jul 19 00:45 |
| elephant | otherwise, i doubt a GCC of the pentium era can emit for RISC-V, OpenRISC or anything | Jul 19 00:45 |
| elephant | this pentium 120MHz isn't only proprietary malicious, it's too outdated, slow and inefficient | Jul 19 00:47 |
| MinceR | that's the point | Jul 19 00:47 |
| MinceR | the open cores you're dissing are more powerful than that CPU | Jul 19 00:47 |
| elephant | TinyCC added some support for RISC-V already, although i cannot say anything with certainty, except, TinyCC couldn't compile linux kernel 5.10 | Jul 19 00:48 |
| elephant | so, here we got, an efficient compiler, free as in free and opensource, with appropriate hardware supported, yet this is what GNU/Linux does: | Jul 19 00:49 |
| elephant | #if IBM GCC #elif MAPPLE CLANG #else #message "not endores by IBM Wintel Pentagon made in usa" #endif | Jul 19 00:49 |
| britney | elephant, people call me a lunatic | Jul 19 00:50 |
| elephant | besides, typically, modern hardware, is stuffed with other crap, such as proprietary/closed USB, HDMI, Ethernet | Jul 19 00:50 |
| elephant | any other than USB1 isn't known to me as being free as in free, Ethernet 10Mbps (maybe 100), not aware of HDMI being open | Jul 19 00:51 |
| elephant | MinceR: which open core had i been dissing? there simply isn't any free support for anything. | Jul 19 00:53 |
| elephant | you'll always reach a dead end, and even if you succeeded with any of this, let's say within 2 years of work... | Jul 19 00:53 |
| elephant | i bet, chances are, this is what you'll find with suppliers "out of stock", next advertisement, free software with a termination cycle of 2 years at most | Jul 19 00:54 |
| elephant | buy the next best shit, again | Jul 19 00:54 |
| MinceR | afaik displayport is open | Jul 19 00:55 |
| MinceR | their connectors are a pain to use, though | Jul 19 00:55 |
| elephant | sorry britney, no clue why anyone would say this | Jul 19 00:56 |
| MinceR | https://files.explosm.net/comics/Dave/mybody1.png ( https://explosm.net/comics/dave-mybody#comic ) | Jul 19 00:56 |
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| britney | elephant, probably because of my website: https://cerberusinvestigations.neocities.org/ | Jul 19 00:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cerberusinvestigations.neocities.org | Cerberus Investigations | Jul 19 00:58 | |
| britney | i talk about reptilians and neanderthals running the world | Jul 19 00:58 |
| britney | elephant, what kind of computer do you use? | Jul 19 00:58 |
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| elephant | britney: what do you want to know? currently i got two boxes powered on: a cortex a53 and a cortex A72/a53. | Jul 19 01:01 |
| britney | elephant, i was curious because u were dissing intel | Jul 19 01:02 |
| elephant | i hate them all, the entire made in usa corrupt cartell | Jul 19 01:03 |
| britney | why do you hate america so much? | Jul 19 01:04 |
| elephant | didn't say america | Jul 19 01:05 |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fZZqDJXOVg | Jul 19 01:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=6fZZqDJXOVg | Jul 19 01:05 | |
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| britney | MinceR, +1 | Jul 19 01:05 |
| elephant | and it is rather specific, who and what i hate about them, and their minions acting arround the globe elsewhere too | Jul 19 01:06 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz[TR2], https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/07/19/windows-is-still-just-a-poorly-debugged-set-of-device-drivers/ | Jul 19 01:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Windows is still just a “poorly debugged set of device drivers”. – BaronHK's Rants | Jul 19 01:07 | |
| DaemonFC | I went on to talk about SJVN and ZDNet. | Jul 19 01:07 |
| DaemonFC | I said Microsoft is using him as "Backup Dr. Pizza". | Jul 19 01:07 |
| DaemonFC | "They’ve turned SJVN at ZDNet into “Backup Dr. Pizza”. | Jul 19 01:08 |
| DaemonFC | He’s been spewing the same type of anti-GNU/Linux and pro-Microsoft bullshit that Peter Bright was at Ars Technica, before Bright/Dr. Pizza got convicted for trying to rape two children under 10. | Jul 19 01:08 |
| DaemonFC | Although I’m certainly not accusing SJVN of being a perverted monster, I am accusing him of being where Microsoft went after Dr. Pizza to get their stuff published. I can’t imagine what SJVN’s job must be like. | Jul 19 01:08 |
| DaemonFC | It reminds me of Bob Arcter in A Scanner Darkly, being forced to read the DEA’s drug war propaganda, being fed his lines through an earpiece, and the agent tells him to “just say the shit”. Or Kevin Spacey’s character in American Beauty, bemoaning “being a whore for the advertising industry” while it sucks out his soul. | Jul 19 01:08 |
| DaemonFC | While Pizza/Bright was a willing co-conspirator of Microsoft’s due to being a very bad person, I think SJVN is just trying to make it to retirement. So it may not be fair to compare their reasons to collaborate with Microsoft, but the result is the same. Microsoft’s propaganda is still being published. | Jul 19 01:08 |
| DaemonFC | Does anyone read ZDNet anymore? I can’t remember the last time I did. It was going downhill so fast that I haven’t seen anything about them that Roy Schestowitz hasn’t highlighted about them in a while. Sad! " | Jul 19 01:08 |
| MinceR | i suspect displayport connectors would still work fine with those annoying teeth ripped out though | Jul 19 01:08 |
| britney | ZDNet was always trash | Jul 19 01:11 |
| elephant | micros~1 offers binary malware, gnu/fsf offer opensource/free software how they call it, and both target malicious hardware vendors | Jul 19 01:12 |
| elephant | in any case, this is what you'll end up with: a non-free system, which is controlled by IBM Wintel Pentagon USA. | Jul 19 01:12 |
| elephant | seems to me, the micros~1 vs linux narrative is perpetuaged to distract and deflect from the fact, with regards to freedom, there isn't any to be had with "made in usa" | Jul 19 01:14 |
| MinceR | do it with russian hardware and a russian C++ compiler, then | Jul 19 01:14 |
| MinceR | and a russian OS | Jul 19 01:14 |
| elephant | MinceR: to my knowledge, the Elbrus CPU from the russians seems to be an Itanium clone (not sure) | Jul 19 01:15 |
| elephant | why should i use that? | Jul 19 01:15 |
| elephant | and i haven't got any schematics or reliable information at all | Jul 19 01:15 |
| elephant | TTL7400 series parts and gigatron seems the last remaining, and this is 50years old tech to be had, as free as in free | Jul 19 01:16 |
| XRevan86 | "seems to be an Itanium clone" <- It's not. | Jul 19 01:17 |
| elephant | it shares the VLIW design of IA64... | Jul 19 01:18 |
| britney | elephant, you could always try designing your own processor | Jul 19 01:18 |
| elephant | i think the gigatron is a better start than doing everyting from scratch | Jul 19 01:19 |
| XRevan86 | elephant: Some generations of AMD Radeon's are VLIWs, so what? | Jul 19 01:19 |
| MinceR | VLIW existed well before the Itanic | Jul 19 01:20 |
| elephant | elephant> and i haven't got any schematics or reliable information at all | Jul 19 01:20 |
| elephant | why bother with this? | Jul 19 01:20 |
| MinceR | 19 021526 < elephant> why should i use that? | Jul 19 01:20 |
| MinceR | follows from all the anti-USA posturing and the pro-putler propaganda | Jul 19 01:20 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: So much so VLIW is in Elbrus since the 80s. | Jul 19 01:20 |
| XRevan86 | Clearly copied from the 2000s Intel processors. | Jul 19 01:21 |
| MinceR | the Z80 is usian, the 7400-series is usian | Jul 19 01:21 |
| XRevan86 | I know a person that can help with finding information on Elbrus, but I can't be bothered, this discussion is not serious anyway, and Elbrus is a secretive thing. | Jul 19 01:23 |
| MinceR | :> | Jul 19 01:23 |
| elephant | btw. if i followed the idea with TTL7400 series chips, the datahseets from TI were worth having a look at, if the internal circuitry of those is documented | Jul 19 01:24 |
| elephant | down to logic gate level | Jul 19 01:24 |
| elephant | keeping the transistor level out of scope for now | Jul 19 01:25 |
| elephant | and with the gigatron ttl, i don't know yet, if the native assembly inside their ROM can be deciphered | Jul 19 01:25 |
| XRevan86 | Also, to address the elephant in the room, is elephant activelow? | Jul 19 01:26 |
| *XRevan86 scrolled back. | Jul 19 01:26 | |
| XRevan86 | Never mind. | Jul 19 01:26 |
| XRevan86 | I got my answer. | Jul 19 01:26 |
| XRevan86 | The attempts at anonymising are just as productive as it would have been if Terry Davis tried to hide his identity but kept complaining about CIA racial diversity. | Jul 19 01:30 |
| XRevan86 | There's not a single person on this earth who talks about the things he talks about. | Jul 19 01:31 |
| elephant | "let's pray for the souls of the poor linux atheists and their gay lord leader mr. torvalds" | Jul 19 01:31 |
| elephant | a year later, I cannot withould laughout | Jul 19 01:32 |
| MinceR | lettuce spray. | Jul 19 01:35 |
| XRevan86 | I linked to a Bellingcat investigation above, the significance of it is that it shows that the people behind the 2014 insurgence in Donbas were not just related to FSB but directly involved with it. | Jul 19 01:35 |
| elephant | and, if i digged deep down to logic gate level, including ICs such as TTL7400 fiddled together: danger of digital hazards | Jul 19 01:42 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: ray men | Jul 19 01:42 |
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| elephant | hazards (timing variances) can kill an entire design and years of work invested into this | Jul 19 01:44 |
| elephant | could be another reason why, some of the free/open hardware designs cannot be clocked above a few MHz, not sure | Jul 19 01:45 |
| elephant | meaning, it could work at 5MHz, and then, why not, clock this up to 50MHz or 100MHz... bam.... crash, even if the silicon could do it | Jul 19 01:47 |
| elephant | a digital circuit timing hazard can ruin the entire design | Jul 19 01:47 |
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| elephant | because, the gigatron design is, admittedly, slow, it's real slow, slow realtime that is | Jul 19 01:49 |
| elephant | this device couldn't terminate vt100 at 640x480 16 colors, doubt it | Jul 19 01:50 |
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| AdmFubar | https://techcrunch.com/2022/07/18/daily-crunch-us-government-is-tracking-our-phones-more-than-we-thought-new-docs-show/ | Jul 19 03:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Daily Crunch: US government is tracking our phones more than we thought, new docs show – TechCrunch | Jul 19 03:04 | |
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| DaemonFC | It turns out that OpenBSD is more concerned about Free Software-only than the FSF is. | Jul 19 03:37 |
| DaemonFC | I can't believe that Microsoft gets to be a "gold partner" of Debian yet Debian still moves device firmware onto a different disk image. | Jul 19 03:37 |
| DaemonFC | https://i.redd.it/43o94kzxw7c91.jpg | Jul 19 03:41 |
| DaemonFC | LOL | Jul 19 03:41 |
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| techrights-news | [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D296.jpg | Jul 19 04:00 |
| techrights-news | [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D647.jpg | Jul 19 04:00 |
| techrights-news | Prefiguring community gemini://degrowther.smol.pub/20220718_prefiguring_community | Jul 19 04:02 |
| techrights-news | Sales of some Oppo, OnePlus models in Germany hit by lawsuit https://itwire.com/mobility/sales-of-some-oppo,-oneplus-models-in-germany-hit-by-lawsuit.html | Jul 19 04:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iTWire - Sales of some Oppo, OnePlus models in Germany hit by lawsuit | Jul 19 04:14 | |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167395 | Jul 19 04:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jul 19 04:15 | |
| techrights-news | Qubes OS 4.1.1 has been released! • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167396 | Jul 19 04:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Qubes OS 4.1.1 has been released! | Tux Machines | Jul 19 04:15 | |
| techrights-news | Ubuntu 21.10 (Impish Indri) End of Life and Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167397 | Jul 19 04:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 21.10 (Impish Indri) End of Life and Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter | Tux Machines | Jul 19 04:15 | |
| techrights-news | "This week’s episode of Destination Linux, we’re going to be pimping out our terminals. We’re going to give you all the tips you need to look like an elite hacker even if you only know apt update and apt upgrade. Then we will be discussing water cooling your Linux laptop." https://tuxdigital.com/podcasts/destination-linux/dl-287/ | Jul 19 04:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-287: Customizing Your Terminal to be a 1337 h@x0r - Destination Linux - TuxDigital | Jul 19 04:16 | |
| techrights-news | Move this custom robotic arm through a touchscreen interface | Arduino Blog ⚓ https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/07/19/move-this-custom-robotic-arm-through-a-touchscreen-interface/ ䷉ Source: Arduino | Hardware | OpenHardware | Hacking | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.arduino.cc/2022/07/19/move-this-custom-robotic-arm-through-a-touchscreen-interface/ | Jul 19 04:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | Move this custom robotic arm through a touchscreen interface | Arduino Blog | Jul 19 04:17 | |
| techrights-news | #Techrights Bulletin for Monday, July 18, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext | Jul 19 04:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives | Jul 19 04:17 | |
| techrights-news | #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing | Jul 19 04:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index | Jul 19 04:18 | |
| techrights-news | "Dale Harvey implemented an experimental Quick Actions feature in the Address Bar" https://blog.nightly.mozilla.org/2022/07/18/these-weeks-in-firefox-issue-120/ | Jul 19 04:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.nightly.mozilla.org | These Weeks In Firefox: Issue 120 – Firefox Nightly News | Jul 19 04:24 | |
| techrights-news | XigmaNAS 13.1.0.5.9244 (beta) is out, based on BSD https://xigmanas.com/xnaswp/ | Jul 19 04:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-XigmaNAS – XigmaNAS | Jul 19 04:25 | |
| techrights-news | Curtail is an Awesome Image Compressor Tool for Linux • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167398 | Jul 19 04:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Curtail is an Awesome Image Compressor Tool for Linux | Tux Machines | Jul 19 04:25 | |
| schestowitz[TR2] | DaemonFC: hi | Jul 19 04:35 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz[TR2], Arse Technica replaced Peter Bright with "Ars Staff" on all of his articles, but they are still there. | Jul 19 04:35 |
| DaemonFC | Hello | Jul 19 04:35 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | yes, I have not mentioned zdnet in a while | Jul 19 04:35 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | because they don't publish much | Jul 19 04:35 |
| techrights-news | Windows is Still Just a “Poorly Debugged Set of Device Drivers” | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/07/18/windows-as-device-drivers/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/18/windows-as-device-drivers/ | Jul 19 04:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Windows is Still Just a “Poorly Debugged Set of Device Drivers” | Techrights | Jul 19 04:36 | |
| schestowitz[TR2] | from http://techrights.org/wiki/ZDNet#2022 | Jul 19 04:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | ZDNet - Techrights | Jul 19 04:36 | |
| schestowitz[TR2] | http://techrights.org/2022/05/10/zdnet-is-dying/ | Jul 19 04:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | ZDNet is Dying | Techrights | Jul 19 04:36 | |
| schestowitz[TR2] | http://techrights.org/2022/06/28/zdnet-shilling/ | Jul 19 04:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Steven Vaughan-Nichols: Mouthpiece for Jim Zemlin, Salaried by (or via) ZDNet | Techrights | Jul 19 04:36 | |
| schestowitz[TR2] | http://techrights.org/2021/09/24/zdnet-fail/ | Jul 19 04:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | ZDNet Has Failed | Techrights | Jul 19 04:36 | |
| schestowitz[TR2] | DaemonFC: it shoulds say "Arse staff" | Jul 19 04:37 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | or "kid arse-fscking staff" | Jul 19 04:37 |
| techrights-news | "Although I’m certainly not accusing SJVN of being a perverted monster, I am accusing him of being where Microsoft went after Dr. Pizza to get their stuff published. I can’t imagine what SJVN’s job must be like." http://techrights.org/2022/07/18/windows-as-device-drivers/ | Jul 19 04:39 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz[TR2], I found an article in a British news site about a Pakistani immigrant meeting a 14 year old boy on Grindr. | Jul 19 04:42 |
| DaemonFC | He said, "I'll pay you for favors.". | Jul 19 04:43 |
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| DaemonFC | When the boy got there, they drove to a part in the guy's car where the guy started having unprotected sex with him, and then 10 minutes later, the boy asked him to stop, so the guy just kept going and threw the kid 20 GBP when he was done and said there'd be "more cash next time". | Jul 19 04:44 |
| DaemonFC | So the kid went home and told his parents what happened, and the guy ended up getting convicted. | Jul 19 04:44 |
| DaemonFC | Didn't go on for a decade or two because he wasn't rich you know. | Jul 19 04:44 |
| DaemonFC | Epstein was throwing $20s at 'em and he still managed to stay a free man for a long time. | Jul 19 04:44 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz[TR2], It's unfortunate that Ars Technica would rather continue to profit from "Dr. Pizza" than take his articles down. | Jul 19 04:45 |
| DaemonFC | They probably still have to pay him something when people read them. | Jul 19 04:46 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz[TR2], How did Microsoft Peter manage to write 939 articles? | Jul 19 04:47 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | those are Microsoft articles | Jul 19 04:47 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | published via monstere | Jul 19 04:47 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah. | Jul 19 04:47 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Arse uses themto profit | Jul 19 04:47 |
| DaemonFC | Ghost writing. | Jul 19 04:47 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | e.g. wikipedia links | Jul 19 04:47 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | planted by Microsoft | Jul 19 04:47 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | hgow Muiicrosoft LOVES giot.. | Jul 19 04:47 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | before buying github | Jul 19 04:48 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | http://news.tuxmachines.org/ | Jul 19 04:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | NO TITLE | Jul 19 04:50 | |
| DaemonFC | Brian Paul deserved his Free Software Award. | Jul 19 04:51 |
| DaemonFC | What happened to people who deserved one receiving one? | Jul 19 04:51 |
| DaemonFC | How the hell did it end up being Matthew Garrett and Karen Sandler? | Jul 19 04:52 |
| DaemonFC | They can't find anyone on the planet that did something useful? | Jul 19 04:52 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz[TR2], Tor released a major Tor Browser update. | Jul 19 04:54 |
| DaemonFC | It now detects when Tor is blocked and prompts the user to use a Tor Bridge. | Jul 19 04:54 |
| DaemonFC | Previously, it just left them to wonder what was wrong, or to already know how to fix it. | Jul 19 04:54 |
| DaemonFC | I wonder why that went on for so long. | Jul 19 04:55 |
| DaemonFC | https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/02/linux-has-2000-new-developers-and-gets-10000-patches-for-each-version/ | Jul 19 04:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Linux has 2,000 new developers and gets 10,000 patches for each version | Ars Technica | Jul 19 04:58 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz[TR2], The Linux Foundation was barely ahead of a patent troll in number of patches to the Linux kernel. | Jul 19 04:59 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | ssl added https://news.tuxmachines.org/ | Jul 19 05:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | NO TITLE | Jul 19 05:01 | |
| schestowitz[TR2] | self-signed, 10 years | Jul 19 05:02 |
| techrights-news | BBS with Gemtext Frontend (idea) gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~nristen/gemlog/20220718.gmi | Jul 19 05:06 |
| phanes | self-signed only works for non-public networks | Jul 19 05:06 |
| techrights-news | [nonsystemd] NetworkManager, dbus and display managers require manual intervention https://www.parabola.nu/news/nonsystemd-networkmanager-dbus-and-display-managers-require-manual-intervention/ | Jul 19 05:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.parabola.nu | Parabola GNU/Linux-libre - News: [nonsystemd] NetworkManager, dbus and display managers require manual intervention | Jul 19 05:07 | |
| schestowitz[TR2] | you can bypass Gulag warning you | Jul 19 05:08 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | don't let them swallow all the "trust" | Jul 19 05:08 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | anyway, by default it'll serve over port 80 | Jul 19 05:08 |
| phanes | eek | Jul 19 05:18 |
| phanes | also its kind of bullshit to publish a private message correspondence without the other party's permission. I assume you didn't know better. | Jul 19 05:19 |
| phanes | i had contingencies to rely on that worked out well but you could have blown my campaign | Jul 19 05:20 |
| DaemonFC | Well shit. Walmart doesn't carry Korean chili pepper flakes anymore. | Jul 19 05:26 |
| DaemonFC | Had to go to Amazon. | Jul 19 05:26 |
| DaemonFC | <schestowitz[TR2]> you can bypass Gulag warning you | Jul 19 05:27 |
| DaemonFC | FAILfox too. | Jul 19 05:27 |
| phanes | im confused about the utlity of that | Jul 19 05:29 |
| DaemonFC | I have some Gochujang sauce. | Jul 19 05:31 |
| DaemonFC | I wonder if I can use that instead of "Korean hot pepper paste". | Jul 19 05:31 |
| DaemonFC | I'm trying to make budae jjigae. | Jul 19 05:31 |
| DaemonFC | Hmm, and Walmart is out of jalapeno peppers too. Guess I'll just use serrano peppers. | Jul 19 05:40 |
| DaemonFC | :/ | Jul 19 05:40 |
| DaemonFC | Man, this "supply shortage" is bullshit. | Jul 19 05:40 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | DaemonFC> FAILfox too | Jul 19 05:43 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | That's Gulag also | Jul 19 05:43 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah. | Jul 19 05:56 |
| DaemonFC | A reanimated corpse with Google's hand up the ass. | Jul 19 05:56 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | https://en.sat24.com/en/forecastimages | Jul 19 05:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.sat24.com | forecast Weather Europe, Satellite Weather Europe, Weather Forecast, Rainfall, Clouds, Sun in Europe - SAT24.com | Jul 19 05:56 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz[TR2], I've been browsing in Lynx when I can get away with doing it. | Jul 19 05:56 |
| DaemonFC | I've been trying to figure out how to make "Ignore Cookies" stick. | Jul 19 05:57 |
| DaemonFC | It only wants to allow cookies or ask each time. :/ | Jul 19 05:57 |
| DaemonFC | Cookies don't make much sense if you can't log into anything really anyway | Jul 19 05:57 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | right | Jul 19 05:58 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | but they sell data | Jul 19 05:58 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | so you are iMPLICITLY logged in | Jul 19 05:58 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | then they cann compare cookies with other sites | Jul 19 05:58 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | and figure out your real id\ | Jul 19 05:58 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | even if you just read some random news sites | Jul 19 05:58 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | they know who are arew | Jul 19 05:58 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | bbl | Jul 19 05:58 |
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| DaemonFC | http://toastytech.com/guis/win11.html | Jul 19 06:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-toastytech.com | Windows 11 Screen Shots | Jul 19 06:24 | |
| DaemonFC | It finally happened. | Jul 19 06:24 |
| DaemonFC | "the task bar no longer allows an option to to have ungrouped icons like earlier versions of Windows did" | Jul 19 06:25 |
| DaemonFC | LOL | Jul 19 06:25 |
| DaemonFC | That's pretty dumb. | Jul 19 06:25 |
| DaemonFC | "There is a weather "widget" on the task bar, right where the start menu should be, so everyone is going to click it. And look what it does. This seeming innocuous weather widget is a gateway to mindless clickbait shit." | Jul 19 06:26 |
| DaemonFC | Pressing print screen gives you an ad for OneDrive. | Jul 19 06:28 |
| DaemonFC | That actually happened to me in Windows 10. | Jul 19 06:28 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-18.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-19.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Jul 19 06:30 |
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| psydruid | > i'm pretty sure i used C++ in a 120MHz Pentium with gcc | Jul 19 06:41 |
| psydruid | > (or djgpp) | Jul 19 06:41 |
| psydruid | My first PC had a Pentium 200 MMX with 32 MB of RAM, which I later upgraded to 256 MB of RAM and gave to my sister. I used it for writing code for almost 4 years and never had the idea it was particularly slow. | Jul 19 06:41 |
| psydruid | Of course the next computer after that was 6 times faster, but that was still considered normal during those days. | Jul 19 06:41 |
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| psydruid | > [notice] baronhk.wordpress.com | Windows is still just a “poorly debugged set of device drivers”. – BaronHK's Rants | Jul 19 06:48 |
| psydruid | I always say that Windows is a collection of APIs pretending to be an operating system, because it's much better if you let Linux or BSD handle the bare metal | Jul 19 06:48 |
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| AdmFubar | youalso can no longer move the task bar to any edge os the screen... it can pnly be at the bottom | Jul 19 06:55 |
| psydruid | > MinceR: to my knowledge, the Elbrus CPU from the russians seems to be an Itanium clone (not sure) | Jul 19 06:58 |
| psydruid | Elbrus was far ahead of Itanium and survives until today, which can't be said about Itanium. Intel could probably devise a new ISA, but they've managed to screw up so many times now that they'd better stick with (poisoning) RISC-V. | Jul 19 06:58 |
| psydruid | http://ftp.altlinux.org/pub/people/mike/elbrus/docs/elbrus_prog/1.1/elbrus-prog-1.1/ | Jul 19 06:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ftp.altlinux.org | Руководство по эффективному программированию на платформе «Эльбрус» — документация Руководство по эффективному программированию на платформе «Эльбрус» 1.1 | Jul 19 06:58 | |
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| techrights-news | "I want to increase the amount that I interact in a positive way with others in the Geminispace, which includes promoting more of what other people are working on, and understanding and respecting the motivations for those others who are using this tech" gemini://squid.flounder.online/gemlog/2022-07-18-update-on-squids-world.gmi | Jul 19 07:11 |
| techrights-news | "I also think it's a sad state of affairs that I agree with his sentiment that most consumer electronic companies exist just to get bought out and not to sell a viable product." gemini://gemini.conman.org/boston/2022/07/18.1 | Jul 19 07:12 |
| techrights-news | Why would you scan things with a... mouse? - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=PDjleq0PJX0 | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/PDjleq0PJX0 | Jul 19 07:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Why would you scan things with a... mouse? - Invidious | Jul 19 07:13 | |
| techrights-news | One can set up one's own instead of outsourcing https://linuxhandbook.com/downtime-monitoring-services/ | Jul 19 07:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxhandbook.com | 9 Best Free Website Downtime Monitoring Services | Jul 19 07:16 | |
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| techrights-news | What is Open Source and why should you support them - TREND OCEANS ⚓ https://trendoceans.com/what-is-open-source/ ䷉ Source: trendoceans | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//trendoceans.com/what-is-open-source/ | Jul 19 07:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-trendoceans.com | What is Open Source and why should you support them - TREND OCEANS | Jul 19 07:17 | |
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| techrights-news | What’s the Difference Between Grep, Sed, and Awk Commands ⚓ https://www.linuxshelltips.com/difference-between-grep-sed-awk-commands/ ䷉ Source: linuxshelltips | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.linuxshelltips.com/difference-between-grep-sed-awk-commands/ | Jul 19 07:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxshelltips.com | What’s the Difference Between Grep, Sed, and Awk Commands | Jul 19 07:21 | |
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| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167399 | Jul 19 07:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jul 19 07:58 | |
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| techrights-news | "I’ve always seen Gemini as kind of similar to RSS; another way to publish your stuff, that’s more reader-friendly. Friendlier to mashups, ebook exports, tours, offline, your own styling, your own font choices, a clean and consistent typography that goes across sites, not just your own." gemini://idiomdrottning.org/re-thoughts-on-rss | Jul 19 08:04 |
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| phanes | pig in a pope hat | Jul 19 09:05 |
| phanes | pope hat on a pig | Jul 19 09:06 |
| techrights-news | The EPO Bubble — Part VII — A Multifaceted Man of Letters | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/07/19/razik-the-man-of-letters/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/19/razik-the-man-of-letters/ | Jul 19 09:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EPO Bubble — Part VII — A Multifaceted Man of Letters | Techrights | Jul 19 09:13 | |
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| phanes | wow i had forgotten all about this one https://paste.silogroup.org/raw/imujocezug | Jul 19 09:28 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-18.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-19.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Jul 19 09:30 |
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| phanes | in all fairness to that one, he was socially admonished briefly for it, not for the action's moral disposition but because it compromised their PR effort and detracted from their credibility, and actually had some people around who knew jack shit about how that stuff works | Jul 19 09:33 |
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| *Now talking on #techrights | Jul 19 09:37 | |
| *Topic for #techrights is: Techrights.org IRC discussions @ localhost | Channel #techrights for http://techrights.org [logged online] :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell for related discussions. For scrollback see http://techrights.org/irc-channel/ | Jul 19 09:37 | |
| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~roy@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc at Fri Jun 18 16:51:47 2021 | Jul 19 09:37 | |
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| techrights-news | [Meme] Bubble Schwabble | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/07/19/epo-terminator-meme/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/19/epo-terminator-meme/ | Jul 19 09:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Bubble Schwabble | Techrights | Jul 19 09:42 | |
| techrights-news | What is Open Source? • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167400 | Jul 19 09:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | What is Open Source? | Tux Machines | Jul 19 09:43 | |
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| techrights-news | 𝘛𝘦𝘤𝘩𝘳𝘪𝘨𝘩𝘵𝘴 IRC Proceedings: Monday, July 18, 2022 • Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/07/19/irc-log-180722/ ䷉ Source: Techrights | GNU | Linux | FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?http%3A//techrights.org/2022/07/19/irc-log-180722/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/19/irc-log-180722/ | Jul 19 10:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Monday, July 18, 2022 | Techrights | Jul 19 10:01 | |
| techrights-news | "Time flies ! Now I have reached to middle of my outreachy internship. This blog post will throw some light on my journey till now" https://dev.to/redoca2k/outreachy-mid-way-blog-post-3nck | Jul 19 10:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dev.to | Outreachy: Mid way blog post - DEV Community | Jul 19 10:03 | |
| Ariadne | i would just like to say that i hate JunOS | Jul 19 10:04 |
| techrights-news | Qt is now misframing the subject of software freedom by pretending it's about "Ability to Modify... Source Code" https://www.qt.io/blog/can-i-modify-qt-source-code | Jul 19 10:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.qt.io | The Ability to Modify the Qt Source Code - Does it Matter? | Jul 19 10:05 | |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Ariadne: they recently had severe security bugs | Jul 19 10:05 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | https://thehackernews.com/2022/07/juniper-releases-patches-for-critical.html | Jul 19 10:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thehackernews.com | Juniper Releases Patches for Critical Flaws in Junos OS and Contrail Networking — The Hacker News | Jul 19 10:05 | |
| schestowitz[TR2] | https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/07/14/juniper-networks-releases-security-updates-multiple-products-1 | Jul 19 10:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | Juniper Networks Releases Security Updates for Multiple Products | CISA | Jul 19 10:06 | |
| Ariadne | yes | Jul 19 10:06 |
| Ariadne | i know | Jul 19 10:06 |
| Ariadne | i was patching | Jul 19 10:06 |
| Ariadne | > The Ability to Modify the Qt Source Code - Does it Matter? | Jul 19 10:06 |
| Ariadne | matters to me | Jul 19 10:06 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | right, but they belittle it | Jul 19 10:07 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | as qt became "closed source" | Jul 19 10:07 |
| Ariadne | isn't it great that we are stuck with a toolkit that is not really FOSS, and a toolkit that is maintained by GNOME | Jul 19 10:07 |
| Ariadne | sure makes me glad i moved on from maintaining desktop apps | Jul 19 10:08 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | audacious moved to qt | Jul 19 10:09 |
| Ariadne | i know, i ported it | Jul 19 10:09 |
| Ariadne | because GTK3 pissed me off | Jul 19 10:09 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | winamp-style UI feels non-qt | Jul 19 10:09 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | maybe old version | Jul 19 10:09 |
| Ariadne | that got ported to qt later | Jul 19 10:09 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I worked with gtk and qt | Jul 19 10:10 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | but different points in time | Jul 19 10:10 |
| techrights-news | CrowPi L Raspberry Pi 4 laptop review - Part 1: Unboxing and teardown • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167401 | Jul 19 10:10 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | "Audacious was originally based on the X Multimedia System (“XMMS”) via its | Jul 19 10:11 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | GTK+ 2.x port Beep Media Player (“BMP”). Audacious has changed quite a bit | Jul 19 10:11 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | since its first release, however, and little XMMS/BMP code remains." | Jul 19 10:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | CrowPi L Raspberry Pi 4 laptop review - Part 1: Unboxing and teardown | Tux Machines | Jul 19 10:11 | |
| schestowitz[TR2] | "The Audacious project began in 2005 under the leadership of William Pitcock | Jul 19 10:11 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | (“nenolod”)." | Jul 19 10:11 |
| Ariadne | ah your version is old | Jul 19 10:12 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | yes, they still package old builds | Jul 19 10:13 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | kde neon | Jul 19 10:13 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | ltestr | Jul 19 10:13 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | *latest | Jul 19 10:13 |
| Ariadne | new infrastructure (ampere) is basically physically set up | Jul 19 10:19 |
| Ariadne | we should figure out how to rebuild techrights on it | Jul 19 10:19 |
| Ariadne | so i can decommission the x86 stuff | Jul 19 10:19 |
| Ariadne | :D | Jul 19 10:19 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | we've started with tuxmachines | Jul 19 10:19 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | git, apache, ssl | Jul 19 10:19 |
| Ariadne | https://cache.treehouse.systems/media_attachments/files/108/670/564/056/447/354/original/ee63c722e9a29f01.png | Jul 19 10:20 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | https://www.nextplatform.com/2022/07/15/google-follows-suit-with-microsoft-on-ampere-arm-instances/ | Jul 19 10:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nextplatform.com | Google Follows Suit With Microsoft On Ampere Arm Instances | Jul 19 10:20 | |
| Ariadne | new machines | Jul 19 10:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | https://ubuntu.com//blog/ubuntu-for-google-clouds-arm-based-t2a-virtual-machines | Jul 19 10:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Introducing Ubuntu for Google Cloud’s Arm-based T2A virtual machines | Ubuntu | Jul 19 10:21 | |
| techrights-news | Today’s 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167402 | Jul 19 10:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Jul 19 10:21 | |
| Ariadne | yep same hardware as those guys | Jul 19 10:21 |
| techrights-news | Links 19/07/2022: Qubes OS 4.1.1 and Ubuntu 21.10 End of Life | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/07/19/ubuntu-21-10-end-of-life/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/19/ubuntu-21-10-end-of-life/ | Jul 19 10:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 19/07/2022: Qubes OS 4.1.1 and Ubuntu 21.10 End of Life | Techrights | Jul 19 10:21 | |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | afaIK, THEY'RE LIKE 10,00 USD | Jul 19 10:22 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | OOPS, CAPS. 10,000 | Jul 19 10:22 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | wow, 160 cpu cores? | Jul 19 10:23 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | aarch64 | Jul 19 10:24 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | "Linux misery" | Jul 19 10:24 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | "take me out of this misery" | Jul 19 10:24 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | cpu scaling from 1ghz to 3.3 | Jul 19 10:25 |
| *schestowitz[TR2] checks the raspi clock speed | Jul 19 10:25 | |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 0.6 to 1.5 | Jul 19 10:26 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | ghz | Jul 19 10:26 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | cotex a72 | Jul 19 10:26 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | *cortex | Jul 19 10:26 |
| techrights-news | Geniatech’s SBC taps Rockchip SoC and runs on Android 11 & Debian • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167403 | Jul 19 10:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Geniatech’s SBC taps Rockchip SoC and runs on Android 11 & Debian | Tux Machines | Jul 19 10:34 | |
| techrights-news | The Benoît Battistelli- and António Campinos-elevated Frenchman, who insiders believe will push illegal software patents to make anther bubble, has a parallel ‘career’ http://techrights.org/2022/07/19/razik-the-man-of-letters/ | Jul 19 10:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EPO Bubble — Part VII — A Multifaceted Man of Letters | Techrights | Jul 19 10:36 | |
| techrights-news | The den of nepotism and despotism, led by Benoît Battistelli and António Campinos (shown above), is in denial about the direction in which it’s heading (burning laws, constitutions and treaties for a short-term money-grebbing expedition) http://techrights.org/2022/07/19/epo-terminator-meme/ | Jul 19 10:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Bubble Schwabble | Techrights | Jul 19 10:37 | |
| techrights-news | 6 Best Free and Open Source C++ Static Site Generators • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167404 | Jul 19 10:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 6 Best Free and Open Source C++ Static Site Generators | Tux Machines | Jul 19 10:38 | |
| techrights-news | Microsoft is poor man's ALMOST-Email https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-investigates-ongoing-exchange-online-outlook-outage/ | Jul 19 10:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bleepingcomputer.com | Microsoft investigates ongoing Exchange Online, Outlook outage | Jul 19 10:39 | |
| techrights-news | Microsoft is all about the sharing. Choosing Microsoft means sharing all your data with crackers. | Jul 19 10:39 |
| techrights-news | You install the latest NSA back doors and your system breaks https://www.techradar.com/news/microsoft-patch-tuesday-update-has-broken-another-really-important-software | Jul 19 10:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft Patch Tuesday update has broken another really important software | TechRadar | Jul 19 10:40 | |
| techrights-news | Legislative Brief on Digital Rights for Monsoon Session 2022 ⚓ https://internetfreedom.in/legislative-brief-monsoon-session-2022/ ䷉ Source: internetfreedom | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//internetfreedom.in/legislative-brief-monsoon-session-2022/ | Jul 19 10:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-internetfreedom.in | Legislative Brief on Digital Rights for Monsoon Session 2022 | Jul 19 10:41 | |
| psydroid2 | Microsoft's poor man's malware doesn't even work on ARM, other than Windows Server and 10/11 with a limited set of applications that just doesn't cut it | Jul 19 10:43 |
| psydroid2 | and there Ampere stuff only hits like 200W per CPU in comparison with the latest Intel and AMD stuff that is going into hundreds of watss | Jul 19 10:44 |
| psydroid2 | the* | Jul 19 10:44 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | you said 700w even | Jul 19 10:44 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | for some systems with GPUs | Jul 19 10:44 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | the very old, first computers took a lot of power also | Jul 19 10:44 |
| psydroid2 | yes, it's crazy | Jul 19 10:44 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | but it's understandabble | Jul 19 10:44 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | considered how they propagated signals | Jul 19 10:45 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | pre-semiconduectors | Jul 19 10:45 |
| psydroid2 | in the modern era x86 has become the equivalent of an SUV | Jul 19 10:46 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | because "games" | Jul 19 10:47 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | and "web" | Jul 19 10:47 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | CNN with 30 domains queries | Jul 19 10:47 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | for a 3-paragraph article of text | Jul 19 10:47 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | and 3 fonts | Jul 19 10:48 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | one proprietary font for the headlinea | Jul 19 10:48 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | and then a couple more..., for god-knows-what.. | Jul 19 10:48 |
| techrights-news | Google #Android Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167405 | Jul 19 10:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jul 19 10:48 | |
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| DaemonFC | I have a Microsoft email address that's so old, it goes back to before they bought Hotmail. | Jul 19 10:59 |
| DaemonFC | It still works. | Jul 19 10:59 |
| DaemonFC | Before they bought Hotmail, you could log in with damned near anything, as long as it supported cookies. | Jul 19 11:00 |
| DaemonFC | Now it's one of those horrific spaghetti code Web apps, and if it doesn't like what it thinks your browser is, you get a fallback site that looks like the "Windows Live Mail" era. | Jul 19 11:00 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | email address is not an asset | Jul 19 11:01 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | esp. if the doamin is not yours | Jul 19 11:01 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | some isp of spying firm | Jul 19 11:01 |
| techrights-news | Site Migration Has Begun | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/07/19/site-migration-alpine/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/19/site-migration-alpine/ | Jul 19 11:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Site Migration Has Begun | Techrights | Jul 19 11:09 | |
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| matey | did mjg ever work for salesforce? | Jul 19 11:14 |
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| mjg59_ | matey: Nope | Jul 19 11:34 |
| mjg59_ | Dated someone who worked for a company salesforce acquired, I think that's the closest I got | Jul 19 11:34 |
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| techrights-news | "The team behind Asahi Linux have announced that the distribution runs on the M1 Ultra" ☛ https://mybroadband.co.za/news/software/453074-asahi-linux-runs-on-apple-m2-machines.html | Source: South Africa | Jul 19 11:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mybroadband.co.za | Asahi Linux runs on Apple M2 machines | Jul 19 11:53 | |
| techrights-news | "The team behind Asahi Linux have announced that the distribution runs on the M1 Ultra" ☛ https://mybroadband.co.za/news/software/453074-asahi-linux-runs-on-apple-m2-machines.html | Source: South Africa | Jul 19 11:53 |
| techrights-news | "Although it's been one of the leading distros for over 20 years Debian..." ☛ https://www.theregister.com/2022/07/18/disentangling_the_debian_derivatives/ | Source: The Register UK | Jul 19 11:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Disentangling Debian derivatives to discern your default • The Register | Jul 19 11:54 | |
| techrights-news | Education ☛ https://blog.archive.org/2022/07/08/internet-archive-seeks-summary-judgment-in-federal-lawsuit-filed-by-publishing-companies/ | Source: Internet Archive | Jul 19 11:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.archive.org | Internet Archive Seeks Summary Judgment in Federal Lawsuit Filed By Publishing Companies - Internet Archive Blogs | Jul 19 11:55 | |
| techrights-news | Openwashing is a lying strategy ☛ https://analyticsindiamag.com/is-microsofts-vs-code-really-open-source/ | | Jul 19 12:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-analyticsindiamag.com | Is Microsoft's VS Code really open source? | Jul 19 12:03 | |
| techrights-news | Surveillance ☛ https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/ice-dhs-privacy-location-data-aclu-1384797/ | Source: Rolling Stone | Jul 19 12:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rollingstone.com | DHS, ICE Buying Up Massive Troves of Cell Phone Location Data -- ACLU - Rolling Stone | Jul 19 12:03 | |
| techrights-news | "The chilling incident is among a series of violent threats recently that have targeted political figures and comes amid a shifting landscape in which the share of partisans who think violence is sometimes justified to achieve political ends has grown significantly." ☛ https://thehill.com/regulation/3561521-growing-support-for-political-violence-raises-alarms/ | Source: The Hill | Jul 19 12:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thehill.com | Growing support for political violence raises alarms | The Hill | Jul 19 12:03 | |
| techrights-news | "As the country becomes more racially diverse, younger, forward thinking and pluralistic, the American right wing is attempting to force the country back to the 19th century and the Gilded Age." ☛ https://www.salon.com/2022/07/18/joe-walshs-maga-warning-if-is-indicted-expect-major-violence/ | Source: Salon | Jul 19 12:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Joe Walsh's MAGA warning: If Trump is indicted, expect "major violence" | Salon.com | Jul 19 12:04 | |
| techrights-news | "Demand and supply." ☛ https://www.computerworld.com/article/3667373/why-tim-cook-is-concerned-about-coding-skills.html | Source: Computer World | Jul 19 12:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why Tim Cook is concerned about coding skills | Computerworld | Jul 19 12:06 | |
| techrights-news | CISA: Microsoft apologists and boosters ☛ https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/3564438-cisa-announces-launch-of-london-bureau/ | Source: The Hill | Jul 19 12:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thehill.com | CISA announces launch of London bureau | The Hill | Jul 19 12:06 | |
| techrights-news | "In a remarkable brief filed on July 7 in their ongoing lawsuit" ☛ https://www.thenation.com/article/culture/internet-archive-lawsuit-libraries/ | Source: The Nation | Jul 19 12:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenation.com | You Can’t Buy These Books | The Nation | Jul 19 12:07 | |
| techrights-news | Uber should not even exist. It needs to be wiped and its executives prosecuted. ☛ https://thehill.com/homenews/3564753-uber-to-pay-millions-to-settle-lawsuit-for-overcharging-customers-with-disabilities/ | Source: The Hill | Jul 19 12:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thehill.com | Uber to pay millions to settle lawsuit for overcharging customers with disabilities | The Hill | Jul 19 12:09 | |
| techrights-news | "Uber has settled with the Department of Justice" ☛ https://www.theverge.com/2022/7/18/23268757/uber-disabled-riders-wait-waiver-lawsuit-settlement-ada-wheelchair | Source: The Verge | Jul 19 12:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Uber will pay over $2 million to disabled riders after federal settlement - The Verge | Jul 19 12:09 | |
| techrights-news | "Two U.S. Senate Democrats active in internet issues are working on a bill" ☛ https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/internet/u-s-senate-democrats-plan-bill-aiming-to-restore-net-neutrality/92970319 | Source: India Times | Jul 19 12:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com | Net neutrality: U.S. Senate Democrats plan bill aiming to restore 'net neutrality', CIO News, ET CIO | Jul 19 12:09 | |
| techrights-news | "Net Neutrality and Broadband Justice Act" ☛ https://www.theverge.com/2022/7/18/23268767/net-neutrality-broadband-internet-democrats-ajit-pai-fcc-gigi-sohn | Source: The Verge | Jul 19 12:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Democrats prepare bill that would codify net neutrality - The Verge | Jul 19 12:10 | |
| techrights-news | "Lawmakers plan to introduce the bill in coming weeks" ☛ https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/07/18/democrats-plan-sweeping-net-neutrality-bill-fcc-majority-stalls/ | Source: The Washington Post | Jul 19 12:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.washingtonpost.com | Democrats plan sweeping net neutrality bill as FCC majority stalls - The Washington Post | Jul 19 12:10 | |
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| techrights-news | Netflix shows Digital Restrictions (DRM) is dead end ☛ https://thehill.com/policy/technology/3564556-netflix-braces-for-critical-earnings-call-after-challenging-year/ | Source: The Hill | Jul 19 12:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thehill.com | Netflix braces for critical earnings call after challenging year | The Hill | Jul 19 12:10 | |
| techrights-news | DoD wants to ban people "disloyal" to Pentagon? The US Military Wants To Understand The Most Important Software On Earth - SoylentNews ⚓ https://soylentnews.org/politics/article.pl?sid=22/07/17/1443218 ䷉ Source: soylentnews | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//soylentnews.org/politics/article.pl?sid=22/07/17/1443218 | Jul 19 12:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-soylentnews.org | The US Military Wants To Understand The Most Important Software On Earth - SoylentNews | Jul 19 12:13 | |
| techrights-news | "Some of the key areas that have witnessed great changes include:" ☛ https://www.tecmint.com/install-wine-in-ubuntu/ | Source: TecMint | Jul 19 12:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tecmint.com | How to Install Latest Wine in Ubuntu Linux | Jul 19 12:15 | |
| techrights-news | "Wine 7.0 is finally released and it comes with an array of numerous enhancements" ☛ https://www.tecmint.com/install-wine-on-ubuntu-and-linux-mint/ | Source: TecMint | Jul 19 12:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tecmint.com | How to Install Wine on Debian, Ubuntu and Linux Mint | Jul 19 12:15 | |
| techrights-news | "Recently, the Wine team proudly announced the stable release of 7.0 and made available" ☛ https://www.tecmint.com/install-wine-in-rhel-centos-and-fedora/ | Source: TecMint | Jul 19 12:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tecmint.com | How to Install Wine on RHEL-based Linux Distributions | Jul 19 12:15 | |
| techrights-news | "Exanima is an unforgiving 3D isometric RPG set in an original dark, low fantasy world." ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/exanima-gets-vastly-improved-linux-and-steam-deck-support/ | Source: GamingOnLinux | Jul 19 12:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Exanima gets vastly improved Linux and Steam Deck support | GamingOnLinux | Jul 19 12:16 | |
| techrights-news | "Tesla and Steam? It's coming and it sounds like it's progressing nicely with a demo to come soon" ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/tesla-to-demo-steam-for-more-in-car-gaming-soon-using-linux-proton/ | Source: GamingOnLinux | Jul 19 12:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Tesla to demo Steam for more in-car gaming soon using Linux & Proton | GamingOnLinux | Jul 19 12:16 | |
| techrights-news | "There is another open source software available called PlayOnLinux that uses Wine" ☛ https://www.tecmint.com/playonlinux-install-windows-software-in-linux/ | Source: TecMint | Jul 19 12:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tecmint.com | PlayOnLinux – Run Windows Software and Games in Linux | Jul 19 12:16 | |
| techrights-news | "Point Rescue Arcade is a game that very much leans into the experience you might have had" ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/relive-memories-of-going-to-the-arcade-in-point-rescue-arcade/ | Source: GamingOnLinux | Jul 19 12:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Relive memories of going to the arcade in Point Rescue Arcade | GamingOnLinux | Jul 19 12:19 | |
| techrights-news | "ownCloud is free and open-source software written in PHP that’s used for data synchronization and file sharing." ☛ https://www.rosehosting.com/blog/how-to-install-owncloud-on-ubuntu-22-04/ | Source: RoseHosting | Jul 19 12:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How to Install ownCloud on Ubuntu 22.04 - RoseHosting | Jul 19 12:20 | |
| techrights-news | "KDE Plasma is the graphical workspace environment that is created by KDE for Linux systems." ☛ https://vitux.com/how-to-install-kde-plasma-on-debian/ | Source: Vitux | Jul 19 12:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://vitux.com/how-to-install-kde-plasma-on-debian/ ) | Jul 19 12:20 | |
| techrights-news | "Fully playable but they're not done yet." ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/fheroes2-game-engine-for-heroes-of-might-and-magic-ii-gets-even-more-ai-upgrades/ | Source: GamingOnLinux | Jul 19 12:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fheroes2 game engine for Heroes of Might and Magic II gets even more AI upgrades | GamingOnLinux | Jul 19 12:21 | |
| techrights-news | "It is crucial to monitor the availability of your website if you do not want your readers/customers to go away." ☛ https://linuxhandbook.com/downtime-monitoring-services/ | Source: Linux Handbook | Jul 19 12:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxhandbook.com | 9 Best Free Website Downtime Monitoring Services | Jul 19 12:23 | |
| techrights-news | "The find command in Linux is an excellent tool to find files and directories based on given criteria." ☛ https://linuxhandbook.com/find-exec-command/ | Source: Linux Handbook | Jul 19 12:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxhandbook.com | Find Exec Command in Linux: 9 Useful Examples | Jul 19 12:23 | |
| DaemonFC | Jesus! | Jul 19 12:27 |
| DaemonFC | I just looked at the price of potatoes. :/ | Jul 19 12:27 |
| DaemonFC | They've almost doubled. | Jul 19 12:27 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-18.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-19.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Jul 19 12:30 |
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| techrights-news | "Sleeper Games have revealed their latest game with Swirl W@tch" ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/swirl-wtch-is-a-blindly-vibrant-upcoming-stealth-action-rogue-lite/ | Source: GamingOnLinux | Jul 19 12:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Swirl W@tch is a blindly-vibrant upcoming stealth-action rogue-lite | GamingOnLinux | Jul 19 12:31 | |
| schestowitz[TR2] | DaemonFC: we got some half price yesterday | Jul 19 12:31 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/07/16/former-substitute-teacher-in-algonquin-pleads-guilty-to-sending-sexually-explicit-message-to-student/ | Jul 19 12:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.lakemchenryscanner.com | Former substitute teacher in Algonquin pleads guilty to sending sexually explicit message to student | Jul 19 12:32 | |
| techrights-news | "Want to get rid of the whine that certain models of Steam Deck have with their fan?" ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/ifixit-have-the-steam-deck-fan-in-stock-if-youre-in-the-us/ | Source: GamingOnLinux | Jul 19 12:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iFixit have the Steam Deck Fan in stock if you're in the U.S. | GamingOnLinux | Jul 19 12:32 | |
| techrights-news | Hellpoint: Blue Sun ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/souls-like-game-hellpoint-blue-sun-major-expansion-dlc-is-out-now/ | Source: GamingOnLinux | Jul 19 12:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Souls-like game Hellpoint: Blue Sun major expansion DLC is out now | GamingOnLinux | Jul 19 12:33 | |
| techrights-news | Observing Sound Waves Up Close gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1081 | Jul 19 12:34 |
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| techrights-news | "At lunch I met 3 Polish-speaking young women, one from Germany, one from somewhere else in Poland, and one from Białystok. They seem very nice if a little insular, i.e. they are more comfortable speaking Polish to each other rather than English to the rest of us, and I can’t blame them." gemini://eph.smol.pub/1658220533 | Jul 19 12:35 |
| DaemonFC | Hey!!! ChatZilla is back. :) | Jul 19 12:36 |
| techrights-news | "Thrive is a free and open source science-based game about evolution, currently allowing you to swim around as a little cell and attempt to survive." ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/open-source-evolution-sim-thrive-gets-procedural-maps-better-gameplay/ | Source: GamingOnLinux | Jul 19 12:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Open source evolution sim Thrive gets procedural maps, better gameplay | GamingOnLinux | Jul 19 12:36 | |
| techrights-news | "The Heroic Games Launcher for Epic Games and GOG on Linux has a huge new Beta release" ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/heroic-games-launcher-adds-gog-cloud-saves-epic-overlay-support-anti-cheat-helpers/ | Source: GamingOnLinux | Jul 19 12:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Heroic Games Launcher adds GOG Cloud Saves, Epic Overlay support, anti-cheat helpers | GamingOnLinux | Jul 19 12:38 | |
| techrights-news | "Wine 7.13 rolled out just before the weekend rolled in" ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/wine-713-rolled-out-recently-continuing-the-pe-conversion/ | Source: GamingOnLinux | Jul 19 12:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Wine 7.13 rolled out recently continuing the PE conversion | GamingOnLinux | Jul 19 12:39 | |
| SomeH4x0r | s/anti-cheat/rootkit/ | Jul 19 12:39 |
| techrights-news | Top 10 Features of Linux Mint 21 "Vanessa" [Featured] • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167406 | Jul 19 12:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Top 10 Features of Linux Mint 21 "Vanessa" [Featured] | Tux Machines | Jul 19 12:40 | |
| schestowitz[TR2] | SomeH4x0r: right :-) | Jul 19 12:40 |
| techrights-news | CentOS, which IBM does not want anymore (except as another Fedora), is being left behind as we move everything to Alpine http://techrights.org/2022/07/19/site-migration-alpine/ | Jul 19 12:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Site Migration Has Begun | Techrights | Jul 19 12:41 | |
| techrights-news | "Dead Cells is the absolutely brilliant game from Motion Twin and Evil Empire." ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/dead-cells-has-an-exciting-roadmap-ahead-as-its-far-from-finished/ | Source: GamingOnLinux | Jul 19 12:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Dead Cells has an exciting roadmap ahead as it's far from finished | GamingOnLinux | Jul 19 12:41 | |
| techrights-news | "There's been a lot of talk about the Steam Deck and SD Cards lately around hot swapping and apparently bricked SD Cards" ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/hot-swapping-sd-cards-on-steam-deck-is-okay-but-valve-plans-improvements/ | Source: GamingOnLinux | Jul 19 12:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Hot swapping SD Cards on Steam Deck is okay but Valve plans improvements | GamingOnLinux | Jul 19 12:42 | |
| techrights-news | "This SBC implements the Rockchip RK3566 which is a four core Cortex-A55 processor" ☛ https://linuxgizmos.com/geniatechs-sbc-taps-rockchip-soc-and-runs-on-android-11-debian/ | Source: Linux Gizmos | Jul 19 12:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/geniatechs-sbc-taps-rockchip-soc-and-runs-on-android-11-debian/ ) | Jul 19 12:42 | |
| techrights-news | "This year SCALE, the community-focused Southern California Linux Expo, is back" ☛ https://fossforce.com/2022/07/scale-returns-celebrate-20th-birthday/ | Source: Unicorn Media | Jul 19 12:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com | SCaLE Returns to Celebrate Its 20th Birthday July 28-31 - FOSS Force | Jul 19 12:43 | |
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| techrights-news | "Explain it to me like I'm five." ☛ https://opensource.com/article/22/7/event-driven-architecture-coloring-book | Source: OpenSource.com | Jul 19 12:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Event-driven architecture explained in a coloring book | Opensource.com | Jul 19 12:47 | |
| techrights-news | "I've written, used, and seen a lot of loose scripts in my career." ☛ https://opensource.com/article/22/7/bootstrap-python-command-line-application | Source: OpenSource.com | Jul 19 12:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Turn your Python script into a command-line application | Opensource.com | Jul 19 12:48 | |
| techrights-news | "Who wants to create their first UI app?" ☛ https://opensource.com/article/22/7/code-first-react-app | Source: OpenSource.com | Jul 19 12:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Code your first React UI app | Opensource.com | Jul 19 12:48 | |
| techrights-news | "The aid group Oxfam International estimated Monday that a mere two weeks of wealth gains recently secured by global food billionaires would be enough to fully fund the United Nations' multibillion-dollar effort to combat hunger in East Africa" ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/07/18/just-two-weeks-food-billionaire-wealth-gains-could-fund-anti-hunger-effort-east | Source: Common Dreams | Jul 19 12:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Just Two Weeks of Food Billionaire Wealth Gains Could Fund Anti-Hunger Effort in East Africa | Jul 19 12:49 | |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | wanna see draft? | Jul 19 12:53 |
| *DaemonFC_ is now known as DaemonFC | Jul 19 12:54 | |
| schestowitz[TR2] | DaemonFC: you might know more | Jul 19 12:54 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | abnout us law | Jul 19 12:54 |
| DaemonFC | sure | Jul 19 12:54 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | http://techrights.org/2022/07/19/get-out-of-jail-with-microsoft/ | Jul 19 12:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft GitHub Exposé — Part XXIV — Using Microsoft Money as ‘Get Out of Jail’ Card After Suffocating Women | Techrights | Jul 19 12:54 | |
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| DaemonFC | Strangler? | Jul 19 12:56 |
| DaemonFC | What did he do? | Jul 19 12:56 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | click | Jul 19 12:56 |
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| techrights-news | Microsoft GitHub Exposé — Part XXIV — Using Microsoft Money as ’Get Out of Jail’ Card After Suffocating Women | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/07/19/get-out-of-jail-with-microsoft/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/19/get-out-of-jail-with-microsoft/ | Jul 19 13:00 |
| techrights-news | Games: Stesm, Heroic Games Launcher, and Free Sofwtare • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167407 | Jul 19 13:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Stesm, Heroic Games Launcher, and Free Sofwtare | Tux Machines | Jul 19 13:04 | |
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| DaemonFC | https://news.sky.com/story/new-research-suggests-gonorrhoea-is-why-we-have-grandparents-12654862 | Jul 19 13:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.sky.com | Gonorrhoea is why we have grandparents, research suggests | Science & Tech News | Sky News | Jul 19 13:06 | |
| DaemonFC | Ah yes, the oldest and bestest democracy on Earth. I'd recognize it anywhere! | Jul 19 13:06 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | weird headline | Jul 19 13:07 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | obv. clickbait | Jul 19 13:07 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | sky | Jul 19 13:07 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | almost murdoch | Jul 19 13:07 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz[TR2], Did you see that woman on Sky yesterday blasting pop music so the guy she was interviewing couldn't talk about global warming and the heat wave in the UK killing hundreds or thousands of people. | Jul 19 13:08 |
| DaemonFC | I also learned "there was a heat wave in 1976, so global warming has been blown way out of proportion". | Jul 19 13:09 |
| DaemonFC | Idiocracy UK | Jul 19 13:09 |
| DaemonFC | Welcome to Costco. I love you! | Jul 19 13:09 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | it is common sense | Jul 19 13:09 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | like I said, sky is a joke | Jul 19 13:10 |
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| DaemonFC | https://abcnews.go.com/US/houston-tv-station-loses-power-discussing-blackouts-air/story?id=86811735 | Jul 19 13:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-abcnews.go.com | Houston TV station loses power while discussing blackouts on air - ABC News | Jul 19 13:18 | |
| DaemonFC | ERCOT. That's "Reliability Council" you know. :) | Jul 19 13:18 |
| DaemonFC | Good old ERCOT, keeping the grid on. | Jul 19 13:18 |
| DaemonFC | Musk probably worked out some deal where the Tesla factory gets all the power routed to it while people bake or freeze to death. | Jul 19 13:19 |
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| DaemonFC | IBM says it will be 92 today. | Jul 19 13:21 |
| DaemonFC | Chilly Weather on Gemini says 86. | Jul 19 13:22 |
| MinceR | 19 140728 < schestowitz[TR2]> almost murdoch | Jul 19 13:22 |
| DaemonFC | "Electric Reliability Council of Texas" | Jul 19 13:22 |
| MinceR | the best kind of murdoch! | Jul 19 13:22 |
| DaemonFC | Pray they don't make it more reliable I guess. | Jul 19 13:23 |
| MinceR | (except for "not murdoch", i guess) | Jul 19 13:23 |
| DaemonFC | Who knew it got hot in Texas in July? | Jul 19 13:23 |
| DaemonFC | Texas in October is like Illinois in July. | Jul 19 13:23 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | mancity is in texas now | Jul 19 13:24 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | new video: | Jul 19 13:24 |
| DaemonFC | You have to wait until December or January to go to Texas and be comfortable. | Jul 19 13:24 |
| DaemonFC | Then it's usually between 60-75. | Jul 19 13:24 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | https://www.mancity.com/citytv/mens/training-18-july-hard-work-in-houston-63793782 | Jul 19 13:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mancity.com | Training: Hard work in Houston | Jul 19 13:24 | |
| schestowitz[TR2] | ice baths | Jul 19 13:24 |
| DaemonFC | Fuck cold showers. | Jul 19 13:24 |
| DaemonFC | AIR CONDITIONER MOTHERFUCKER! | Jul 19 13:25 |
| DaemonFC | (Samuel L. Jackson voice) | Jul 19 13:25 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know how it stays this humid in my apartment. | Jul 19 13:25 |
| DaemonFC | That dehumidifier and the air conditioner must remove 3 gallons of water per day, and it's not even a big apartment. | Jul 19 13:26 |
| DaemonFC | It gets truly miserable in here without the dehumidifier going. | Jul 19 13:27 |
| DaemonFC | It can get up to 90% relative humidity and then the walls start sweating. | Jul 19 13:27 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz[TR2], My air conditioner still uses R-12. | Jul 19 13:28 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | DaemonFC: I've opened both doors | Jul 19 13:28 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I'm outside withput being outside | Jul 19 13:28 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | but tomorrow is cools down a lot (already) | Jul 19 13:29 |
| DaemonFC | Probably costs a lot to run your air conditioner because it's Europe. | Jul 19 13:29 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | most of us dopn't have a/c | Jul 19 13:30 |
| DaemonFC | Unfortunately, the idiots who don't know anything about anything have taken over the US too. | Jul 19 13:30 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | except maybe france, spain.. | Jul 19 13:30 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | italy | Jul 19 13:30 |
| DaemonFC | Do you want coal? Nope! Okay, how about a nuclear plant? Nope! | Jul 19 13:30 |
| DaemonFC | Here's a bunch of wind. Wind stops blowing. Power goes out during heat wave. | Jul 19 13:30 |
| techrights-news | "an online service known as 911 has sold access to hundreds of thousands" ☛ https://krebsonsecurity.com/2022/07/a-deep-dive-into-the-residential-proxy-service-911/ | Source: Krebs On Security | Jul 19 13:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-krebsonsecurity.com | A Deep Dive Into the Residential Proxy Service ‘911’ – Krebs on Security | Jul 19 13:30 | |
| techrights-news | India vs encryption ☛ https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/07/eff-and-partners-urge-indian-government-keep-end-end-encryption-alive | Source: EFF | Jul 19 13:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | EFF and Partners Urge the Indian Government to Keep End-to-End Encryption Alive | Electronic Frontier Foundation | Jul 19 13:31 | |
| DaemonFC | I have no idea why everything is so expensive in Europe. | Jul 19 13:31 |
| DaemonFC | I wonder if it's just all the taxes from the corrupt politicians. | Jul 19 13:31 |
| SomeH4x0r | cuddlybear66 did install HoloIRC, but then it turned out not to display channel messages | Jul 19 13:31 |
| DaemonFC | That can certainly make a difference in how expensive a US state is to live in. | Jul 19 13:31 |
| DaemonFC | Take Illinois, California, and New York. Crooked politicians taking all your money and pissing it down a rat hole. | Jul 19 13:32 |
| DaemonFC | You never see it again. Your life gets no better. | Jul 19 13:32 |
| DaemonFC | I doubt Governor Pritzker is going to survive this election, or if he does it'll be by a couple percent. | Jul 19 13:33 |
| DaemonFC | Everyone in the US is pissed right now. | Jul 19 13:33 |
| MinceR | 19 143141 < SomeH4x0r> cuddlybear66 did install HoloIRC, but then it turned out not to display channel messages | Jul 19 13:34 |
| MinceR | who needs that in IRC? :> | Jul 19 13:34 |
| DaemonFC | https://morningconsult.com/2022/07/13/recession-outlook-us-economy-data/ | Jul 19 13:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-morningconsult.com | Are We in a Recession? 2 in 3 Voters Say Yes - Morning Consult | Jul 19 13:34 | |
| schestowitz[TR2] | define "Recession?" | Jul 19 13:35 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz[TR2], The media narrative is there's no reason for there to be a recession in the US other than "people believing there will be one". | Jul 19 13:35 |
| DaemonFC | That may well make one worse, but there's one regardless. | Jul 19 13:35 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | whose media? | Jul 19 13:35 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | "well he's dead" bill? | Jul 19 13:35 |
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| DaemonFC | Two consecutive quarters of negative GDP growth is the usual definition of a recession. | Jul 19 13:35 |
| DaemonFC | We're already there. | Jul 19 13:36 |
| DaemonFC | -1.9 and -1.6, according to the BLS. | Jul 19 13:36 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | so steal savers' money | Jul 19 13:36 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | make them "investors" | Jul 19 13:36 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | and force them to "investt" in GAFAM | Jul 19 13:36 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | to prop up share prices | Jul 19 13:36 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | more gambling | Jul 19 13:36 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | taller pyramid | Jul 19 13:36 |
| DaemonFC | The screaming is also "It's all the fault of the poors for not fucking enough.....MAKE MORE KIDS!". | Jul 19 13:37 |
| DaemonFC | Which is the real reason abortion was overturned. | Jul 19 13:38 |
| MinceR | lol | Jul 19 13:38 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | "get a THIRD job!" | Jul 19 13:38 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | bill g worked 3 jhobs | Jul 19 13:38 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | lolita elexpress flights | Jul 19 13:38 |
| MinceR | bill g worked? | Jul 19 13:38 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | PR for jeff | Jul 19 13:38 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | and microsoft board | Jul 19 13:38 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | ioh, that 'charity' | Jul 19 13:38 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | no, that's just for bring nmedia | Jul 19 13:39 |
| MinceR | i thought he just ripped people off and bossed others around | Jul 19 13:39 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | so they don't focus on some of his 'jobs' | Jul 19 13:39 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | he got many 'jobs' | Jul 19 13:39 |
| MinceR | oh, and spewed bullshit in the media | Jul 19 13:39 |
| DaemonFC | Past-tense? | Jul 19 13:39 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | they try to make it present | Jul 19 13:39 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | billl gates says | Jul 19 13:39 |
| DaemonFC | He'll be spewing bullshit in the media until he dies. | Jul 19 13:39 |
| DaemonFC | Billshit. Bill Sez. | Jul 19 13:39 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | bill gates said, well, he's dead | Jul 19 13:39 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | he pays the media to do this | Jul 19 13:40 |
| DaemonFC | In his mind, the fact that Epstein is dead changes something? | Jul 19 13:40 |
| techrights-news | The Great Leveler ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/07/18/great-crisis-21st-century-hijacked-democracies-propaganda-and-rebellions | Source: Common Dreams | Jul 19 13:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | The Great Crisis of the 21st Century: Hijacked Democracies, Propaganda, and Rebellions | Jorge Majfud | Jul 19 13:40 | |
| techrights-news | The "Great Reset" should have them in a firing line? ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/07/18/just-27-billionaires-have-spent-90-million-buy-gop-congress-report | Source: Common Dreams | Jul 19 13:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Just 27 Billionaires Have Spent $90 Million to Buy GOP Congress: Report | Jul 19 13:41 | |
| schestowitz[TR2] | class abortion | Jul 19 13:42 |
| DaemonFC | The fact that Biden really hasn't changed anything AND thought he'd just sneak an anti-abortion Republican judge onto the federal bench, why does Communist Dreams even care which party wins now? | Jul 19 13:42 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | pro-choice | Jul 19 13:42 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | s Communist Dreams" does care | Jul 19 13:43 |
| MinceR | "i still do, but i used to, too." | Jul 19 13:43 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | "Communist Dreams" is upset at Bioden | Jul 19 13:43 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | and said all along he'd suck | Jul 19 13:43 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | and still it was a priority to get Trump OUT | Jul 19 13:43 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | "Communist Dreams supported Sanders | Jul 19 13:44 |
| DaemonFC | Getting Trump out may have caused harm. | Jul 19 13:45 |
| DaemonFC | By putting Biden in there and allowing the Trump supporters to call him a liberal, guess what.... | Jul 19 13:45 |
| DaemonFC | People now see Biden=Liberal and don't like what's going on. | Jul 19 13:46 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | liberal who gave patrior act ;-) | Jul 19 13:46 |
| techrights-news | "Broadband internet is a necessity, not a luxury" ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/07/18/advocates-welcome-new-push-incredibly-important-net-neutrality-bill | Source: Common Dreams | Jul 19 13:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Advocates Welcome New Push for 'Incredibly Important' Net Neutrality Bill | Jul 19 13:47 | |
| techrights-news | "considers" ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/07/19/biden-considers-declaring-climate-emergency-amid-heat-apocalypse | Source: Common Dreams | Jul 19 13:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Biden Considers Declaring Climate Emergency Amid 'Heat Apocalypse' | Jul 19 13:47 | |
| schestowitz[TR2] | maybe in 10 years they will "seriously consider" | Jul 19 13:47 |
| techrights-news | "What do you do with those old Android or iPhone phones and tablets?" ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/07/18/quick-hack-the-phone-to-stream-deck-conversion/ | Source: Hackaday | Jul 19 13:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Quick Hack: The Phone To Stream Deck Conversion | Hackaday | Jul 19 13:49 | |
| DaemonFC | https://reactos.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=20930 | Jul 19 13:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-reactos.org | ROS 0.4.14 LiveCD flagged by Windows Defender - ReactOS Forum | Jul 19 13:54 | |
| techrights-news | Commodore recycled ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/07/18/the-commodore-64-smartwatch-can-now-sync-with-your-commodore-64-desktop/ | Source: Hackaday | Jul 19 14:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Commodore 64 Smartwatch Can Now Sync With Your Commodore 64 Desktop | Hackaday | Jul 19 14:00 | |
| schestowitz[TR2] | it is defending windows | Jul 19 14:00 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | from alternatives to windows | Jul 19 14:00 |
| techrights-news | Hackaday starts publishing sponsored SPAM ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/07/18/print-your-own-drill-guide-without-a-linear-bearing/ | Source: Hackaday | Jul 19 14:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Print Your Own Drill Guide Without A Linear Bearing | Hackaday | Jul 19 14:01 | |
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| techrights-news | "did not seem to perturb the leaders of some of the richest countries in the world. They still insist on not interfering in the global food market, though the skyrocketing prices have already pushed tens of millions of people below the poverty line" https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/07/19/the-rise-of-brics-the-economic-giant-that-is-taking-on-the-west/ | Jul 19 14:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Rise of BRICS: The Economic Giant that is Taking on the West - CounterPunch.org | Jul 19 14:05 | |
| techrights-news | "Very few retrocomputing projects are anything other than a labor of love." ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/07/19/modular-z80-really-racks-up-the-retrocomputer-cred/ | Source: Hackaday | Jul 19 14:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Modular Z80 Really Racks Up The Retrocomputer Cred | Hackaday | Jul 19 14:06 | |
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| techrights-news | Ubuntu 21.10 Has Reached End-of-Life, Upgrade Now! • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167408 | Jul 19 14:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 21.10 Has Reached End-of-Life, Upgrade Now! | Tux Machines | Jul 19 14:38 | |
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| techrights-news | 14 Best Free and Open Source Linux System Monitoring Tools • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167409 | Jul 19 14:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 14 Best Free and Open Source Linux System Monitoring Tools | Tux Machines | Jul 19 14:39 | |
| techrights-news | Google #Android Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167410 | Jul 19 14:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jul 19 14:39 | |
| techrights-news | More unions ☛ https://truthout.org/articles/house-staffers-in-8-offices-file-to-form-first-ever-congressional-unions/ | Source: TruthOut | Jul 19 14:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | House Staffers in 8 Offices File to Form First-Ever Congressional Unions | Jul 19 14:41 | |
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| techrights-news | "On Dec. 31, 2020, a 40-year-old man named Leon Casiquito walked into Kelly Liquors on Route 66 in Albuquerque and tried to shoplift a bottle of tequila." ☛ https://www.propublica.org/article/two-cities-took-different-approaches-to-pandemic-court-closures-they-got-different-results Pro Publica sponsor: Epstein's enabler! http://techrights.org/2020/10/11/bagel-reports-as-images/ | Jul 19 14:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.propublica.org | Two Cities Took Different Approaches to Pandemic Court Closures. They Got Different Results. — ProPublica | Jul 19 14:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Trafficking Thousands of Underage Women/Girls for Sex is Not (and Was Never Ever) ‘No Worse Than Stealing a Bagel’ | Techrights | Jul 19 14:49 | |
| techrights-news | "Senator Ron Wyden and Representative Anna Eshoo are urging the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) to take action against abusive and deceptive practices" ☛ https://torrentfreak.com/us-lawmakers-want-ftc-to-crack-down-on-overpromising-and-dishonest-vpns-220718/ | Source: Torrent Freak | Jul 19 14:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-US Lawmakers Want FTC to Crack Down on Overpromising and Dishonest VPNs * TorrentFreak | Jul 19 14:50 | |
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| techrights-news | Clownflare as censor/chokeoint: "An Italian court has ordered Cloudflare to block three torrent sites on its public DNS resolver" ☛ https://torrentfreak.com/court-orders-cloudflares-dns-resolver-1-1-1-1-to-block-pirate-sites-in-italy-220719/ | Source: Torrent Freak | Jul 19 14:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Court Orders Cloudflare's DNS Resolver 1.1.1.1 to Block Pirate Sites in Italy * TorrentFreak | Jul 19 14:50 | |
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| techrights-news | "overproduced marketing videos" ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/07/18/the-metaverse-could-change-the-world-if-we-could-stop-getting-in-its-way/ | Source: Techdirt | Jul 19 15:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Metaverse Could Change The World, If We Could Stop Getting In Its Way | Techdirt | Jul 19 15:01 | |
| techrights-news | "propaganda mills like Fox News" ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/07/18/u-s-consumers-pay-1600-annually-for-cable-tv-channels-they-dont-watch/ | Source: Techdirt | Jul 19 15:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-U.S. Consumers Pay $1,600 Annually For Cable TV Channels They Don’t Watch | Techdirt | Jul 19 15:03 | |
| techrights-news | "open source license requirements" ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/07/18/ortur-laser-will-go-open-source/ | Source: Hackaday | Jul 19 15:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ortur Laser Will Go Open-Source | Hackaday | Jul 19 15:03 | |
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| techrights-news | "harmful content and protecting freedom of speech. It’s a balance" ☛ https://scheerpost.com/2022/07/18/meet-the-ex-cia-agents-deciding-facebooks-content-policy/ | Source: Scheerpost | Jul 19 15:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Meet the Ex-CIA Agents Deciding Facebook’s Content Policy – scheerpost.com | Jul 19 15:04 | |
| techrights-news | Assange ☛ https://scheerpost.com/2022/07/18/assange-fights-extradition-to-us-with-two-appeals/ | Source: Scheerpost | Jul 19 15:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Assange Fights Extradition To US With Two Appeals – scheerpost.com | Jul 19 15:05 | |
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| techrights-news | Joe Burns’ new Class Struggle Unionism ☛ https://scheerpost.com/2022/07/18/what-is-class-struggle-unionism/ | Source: Scheerpost | Jul 19 15:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-What Is Class Struggle Unionism? – scheerpost.com | Jul 19 15:15 | |
| techrights-news | "education" ☛ https://scheerpost.com/2022/07/18/will-our-children-be-able-to-read/ | Source: Scheerpost | Jul 19 15:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Will Our Children Be Able to Read? – scheerpost.com | Jul 19 15:15 | |
| SomeH4x0r | don't make children | Jul 19 15:17 |
| SomeH4x0r | make IRC bots | Jul 19 15:17 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | in russia, children make YOU | Jul 19 15:17 |
| techrights-news | Hyundai ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/07/18/hacker-liberates-hyundai-head-unit-writes-custom-apps/ | Source: Hackaday | Jul 19 15:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Hacker Liberates Hyundai Head Unit, Writes Custom Apps | Hackaday | Jul 19 15:18 | |
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| techrights-news | Starbucks needs a bit boycott. ☛ https://scheerpost.com/2022/07/18/starbucks-and-other-companies-escalate-war-on-unions-with-store-closures/ | Source: Scheerpost | Jul 19 15:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Starbucks and Other Companies Escalate War on Unions With Store Closures – scheerpost.com | Jul 19 15:20 | |
| techrights-news | "brilliantly dubbed the bill to Brexit the internet" ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/07/18/brief-reprieve-uk-puts-online-safety-bill-on-hold-while-it-sorts-out-its-boris-johnson-shaped-mess/ | Source: Techdirt | Jul 19 15:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Brief Reprieve: UK Puts Online Safety Bill On Hold While It Sorts Out Its Boris Johnson-Shaped Mess | Techdirt | Jul 19 15:24 | |
| techrights-news | "Twitter’s opening legal salvo" ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/07/18/elon-musks-response-to-twitters-legal-filing-may-impress-his-fans-on-twitter-but-is-not-a-good-legal-argument/ | Source: Techdirt | Jul 19 15:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Elon Musk’s Response To Twitter’s Legal Filing May Impress His Fans On Twitter, But Is Not A Good Legal Argument | Techdirt | Jul 19 15:25 | |
| techrights-news | "Welcome back to the negative news cycle, Ring! It’s been awhile" ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/07/18/ring-cops-can-still-obtain-recordings-without-warrants-or-user-consent/ | Source: Techdirt | Jul 19 15:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ring: Cops Can Still Obtain Recordings Without Warrants Or User Consent | Techdirt | Jul 19 15:26 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-18.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-19.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Jul 19 15:30 |
| techrights-news | Links 19/07/2022: Microsoft is Offline Again | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/07/19/microsoft-offline-again/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/19/microsoft-offline-again/ | Jul 19 15:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 19/07/2022: Microsoft is Offline Again | Techrights | Jul 19 15:50 | |
| techrights-news | Openwashing, Proprietary Microsoft, and Security Woes • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167411 | Jul 19 16:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Openwashing, Proprietary Microsoft, and Security Woes | Tux Machines | Jul 19 16:01 | |
| techrights-news | Free, Libre, and Open Source Software Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167412 | Jul 19 16:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Free, Libre, and Open Source Software Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jul 19 16:01 | |
| techrights-news | Today’s 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167413 | Jul 19 16:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Jul 19 16:01 | |
| techrights-news | Today in #Techrights • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167414 | Jul 19 16:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jul 19 16:01 | |
| techrights-news | SpellBinding: ABPKNOE Wordo: CHAFF gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2022-07-19.gmi | Jul 19 16:02 |
| techrights-news | The person behind Copilot is a highly perverted strangler and he was supported by Microsoft despite Microsoft knowing what he had done. Today we merely present some more evidence and we shall soon show how Microsoft handled the situation (it dealt with this as a routine, not a crisis, and kept paying the mobster/monster). http://techrights.org/2022/07/19/get-out-of-jail-with-microsoft/ | Jul 19 16:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft GitHub Exposé — Part XXIV — Using Microsoft Money as ‘Get Out of Jail’ Card After Suffocating Women | Techrights | Jul 19 16:03 | |
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| XRevan86 | https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/pipewire/pipewire/-/releases/0.3.56 | Jul 19 17:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gitlab.freedesktop.org | 0.3.56 · PipeWire / pipewire · GitLab | Jul 19 17:30 | |
| bnchs | lol | Jul 19 17:41 |
| bnchs | please block these sites on your dns provider | Jul 19 17:41 |
| SomeH4x0r | what sites? | Jul 19 17:43 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | gitlab fr the JS mess? | Jul 19 17:46 |
| XRevan86 | bnchs: FDO? | Jul 19 17:47 |
| bnchs | somehow my messages didn't get sent, i was making fun of the italian ISPs telling cloudflare to block torrent sites | Jul 19 17:49 |
| XRevan86 | bnchs: The message that did get sent came across as anti-PipeWire. | Jul 19 17:51 |
| bnchs | awkward | Jul 19 17:54 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | PipeWire is now connected to Microsoft | Jul 19 17:56 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | through PA | Jul 19 17:56 |
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| XRevan86 | schestowitz: LibreOffice has been connected to Microsoft since day one, through Microsoft Office. | Jul 19 18:00 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | no | Jul 19 18:00 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | through go-oo | Jul 19 18:01 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | novell | Jul 19 18:01 |
| XRevan86 | They implement Microsoft's formats. | Jul 19 18:01 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | But OOOo was in danger because of the first O | Jul 19 18:01 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | oracle | Jul 19 18:01 |
| phanes | fuck oracle | Jul 19 18:01 |
| matey | and the second one | Jul 19 18:02 |
| matey | phanes, read the tso thing | Jul 19 18:02 |
| matey | unbelievable | Jul 19 18:02 |
| techrights-news | Jack Wallen , why are you promoting Microsoft crap? https://www.techrepublic.com/article/install-minecraft-server-ubuntu/ | Jul 19 18:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How to install a Minecraft server on Ubuntu Server 22.04 | TechRepublic | Jul 19 18:02 | |
| matey | (read = i read) | Jul 19 18:02 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | the w in sjw | Jul 19 18:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | is not what people think | Jul 19 18:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | it's warriors aainst social causesna | Jul 19 18:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | and they do injustice | Jul 19 18:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | some of the time | Jul 19 18:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | or most of the time it seems | Jul 19 18:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | the ones who wear the brand on their sleeve | Jul 19 18:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | by picking on the wrong targets\ | Jul 19 18:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | a | Jul 19 18:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | when it backifres | Jul 19 18:04 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | thye put off a lot of people | Jul 19 18:04 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | who would otherwise be spympathetic to actual social... justice | Jul 19 18:04 |
| matey | who doesnt like an inquistition? | Jul 19 18:04 |
| matey | who would otherwise be spympathetic <- or otherwise ARE sympathetic | Jul 19 18:04 |
| matey | but not to a fucking inquisition | Jul 19 18:05 |
| matey | when mjg advises you to word something differently | Jul 19 18:05 |
| matey | what he means is hes going to engage in character assassination later | Jul 19 18:05 |
| matey | its more of a threat than advice | Jul 19 18:06 |
| XRevan86 | Quite a turn from PipeWire implementing the PulseAudio interfaces. | Jul 19 18:06 |
| matey | of course i had a similar experience with you but | Jul 19 18:06 |
| matey | theres a nuance | Jul 19 18:06 |
| matey | its certainly not what you think it is | Jul 19 18:07 |
| phanes | matey: im not worried about that guy. ive been running circles around him the whole way through. anything he does to retaliate will backfire on him because lacks executive planning capabilities. | Jul 19 18:12 |
| matey | because lacks executive planning capabilities <- i dont think thats so | Jul 19 18:12 |
| matey | anything he does to retaliate will backfire on him <- that MAY be so | Jul 19 18:12 |
| matey | lacks executive planning <- i think its more accurate to say hes reactionary | Jul 19 18:13 |
| matey | i imagine he has a fair bit of executive planning skills | Jul 19 18:13 |
| matey | which may get short-circuited by being reactionary (sometimes) | Jul 19 18:13 |
| matey | which isnt the same | Jul 19 18:13 |
| matey | and underestimating an opponent never helps, even if you have it in the bag | Jul 19 18:14 |
| phanes | ive got alot of experience with with people like that, he's not the most dangerous by any means | Jul 19 18:14 |
| phanes | malicious certainly | Jul 19 18:15 |
| matey | i wasnt implying he was your worst nightmare | Jul 19 18:15 |
| phanes | i tipped him off to the feedback cycle so he's now in the corner staring | Jul 19 18:16 |
| matey | more to the point, what i said about being reactionary applies to a number of people like him | Jul 19 18:16 |
| phanes | it does yeah | Jul 19 18:16 |
| matey | and if its better not to underestimate your opponent, its better still not to underestimate a swath of them | Jul 19 18:16 |
| matey | but fwiw, i imagine you spend more time on strategy than i do | Jul 19 18:16 |
| phanes | some people need an army. some people are an army. | Jul 19 18:17 |
| matey | sometimes an army helps even if you are one | Jul 19 18:17 |
| matey | now you have two armies | Jul 19 18:17 |
| phanes | lol | Jul 19 18:17 |
| matey | i dated someone from the same place mjg hails from | Jul 19 18:17 |
| matey | she saw the american "army of one" posters | Jul 19 18:18 |
| matey | she thought they were hilarious | Jul 19 18:18 |
| phanes | what like army recruiting posters? | Jul 19 18:18 |
| matey | yeah | Jul 19 18:18 |
| phanes | yeah those are a riot | Jul 19 18:18 |
| matey | i mean ive got family in the armed forces | Jul 19 18:19 |
| matey | but they have a sense of humour too | Jul 19 18:19 |
| matey | and not everyone who signs up fails to become disillusioned | Jul 19 18:20 |
| phanes | idk, i think it might be good for some people when they're very young | Jul 19 18:22 |
| phanes | to in the armed forces | Jul 19 18:22 |
| phanes | *go | Jul 19 18:22 |
| phanes | man i hate this keyboard, it jams up constantly | Jul 19 18:23 |
| matey | military experience can be useful | Jul 19 18:23 |
| matey | it can also be expensive | Jul 19 18:23 |
| XRevan86 | CIT: https://telegra.ph/Dispatch-for-July-16-17-07-18 | Jul 19 18:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-telegra.ph | Dispatch for July 16-17 – Telegraph | Jul 19 18:26 | |
| XRevan86 | CIT: https://telegra.ph/Dispatch-for-July-18-07-19 | Jul 19 18:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-telegra.ph | Dispatch for July 18 – Telegraph | Jul 19 18:27 | |
| bnchs | hi matey | Jul 19 18:27 |
| XRevan86 | Wow, they've started translating to English. | Jul 19 18:27 |
| bnchs | you haven't been to digdeeper in a long time | Jul 19 18:27 |
| *psydroid2 is proud of being called a scumbag the first time he went to Belfast | Jul 19 18:27 | |
| XRevan86 | Conflict Intelligence Team are one of the better OSINT. | Jul 19 18:28 |
| phanes | I was trying to get into one of their partner groups but I can never find it | Jul 19 18:29 |
| phanes | Conflict Liaison Intelligence Team | Jul 19 18:29 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-18.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-19.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Jul 19 18:30 |
| matey | is proud of being called a scumbag the first time he went to Belfast <- theyre all proud scumbags afaict | Jul 19 18:31 |
| matey | i like most of them | Jul 19 18:31 |
| XRevan86 | phanes: Partner groups? | Jul 19 18:32 |
| matey | <bnchs> you haven't been to digdeeper in a long time <- i found nothing there | Jul 19 18:33 |
| matey | dd was alright | Jul 19 18:33 |
| matey | the guy | Jul 19 18:33 |
| matey | i dont stick around like im mining for bitcoin | Jul 19 18:33 |
| matey | if theres a reason, i stay-- if not, i go | Jul 19 18:33 |
| matey | i couldnt find anything | Jul 19 18:34 |
| matey | perhaps i missed one | Jul 19 18:34 |
| phanes | XRevan86: Yes, the Conflict Liaison Intelligence Team. Highly sought after, but difficult to locate. | Jul 19 18:35 |
| phanes | i think they mostly serve as negotiation points | Jul 19 18:35 |
| matey | part of the issue is i live in the future-- the present doesnt exite me | Jul 19 18:35 |
| matey | my associates also live in the future | Jul 19 18:36 |
| matey | metaphorically speaking | Jul 19 18:36 |
| matey | i DO love older tech | Jul 19 18:36 |
| matey | but even in the 80s i was thinking about dynamic typing, fpgas, files stored on chips | Jul 19 18:37 |
| matey | things that were more rare (or didnt exist yet) at the time | Jul 19 18:37 |
| techrights-news | You can liquid cool this Linux laptop to let the GPU soar http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167254#comment-34385 | Jul 19 18:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | TUXEDO Aquaris Announced as First Water Cooling System for Linux Laptops | Tux Machines | Jul 19 18:37 | |
| matey | i predicted a number of technologies. theyre all like the old tech, just a little bit different | Jul 19 18:37 |
| matey | i didnt see usb coming. but usb sticks? yes | Jul 19 18:37 |
| matey | i didnt see mp3 coming. but i did predict flac | Jul 19 18:37 |
| matey | i code and i dont have blue hair | Jul 19 18:38 |
| bnchs | matey: yeah glad you didn't come | Jul 19 18:38 |
| matey | though i actually like blue hair | Jul 19 18:38 |
| matey | not that particular hue though (when hers was blue) | Jul 19 18:38 |
| matey | <bnchs> matey: yeah glad you didn't come <- wow, did something happen | Jul 19 18:39 |
| techrights-news | How to use Docker from a Linux host system to escalate to root gemini://perso.pw/blog/articles/use-docker-to-become-root.gmi | Jul 19 18:39 |
| matey | sorry to hear that | Jul 19 18:40 |
| matey | aww | Jul 19 18:40 |
| matey | fuck, me too | Jul 19 18:40 |
| XRevan86 | phanes: I suspect that's a joke, but I don't really get it. | Jul 19 18:40 |
| matey | ive left a lot of places right before tshtf | Jul 19 18:41 |
| XRevan86 | https://theins.press/en/news/253288 | Jul 19 18:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theins.press | Russia's No. 1 tennis player Daria Kasatkina comes out as gay | Jul 19 18:41 | |
| XRevan86 | https://theins.press/en/news/253306 | Jul 19 18:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theins.press | Russian fighter jet taken down by friendly fire near Alchevsk. The air defense unit was targeting HIMARS missiles | Jul 19 18:41 | |
| schestowitz[TR2] | did tghomas lord from fsf just die? | Jul 19 18:42 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | does he go by "tom laaaord" also? | Jul 19 18:42 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | or different person? | Jul 19 18:42 |
| XRevan86 | https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/07/19/former-russian-regional-official-appointed-head-of-russian-occupied-territories-in-ukraines-zaporizhzhia-region-news "Former Russian regional official appointed ‘head’ of Russian-occupied territories in Ukraine’s Zaporizhzhia region" (part of a larger trend) | Jul 19 18:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-novayagazeta.eu | Новая газета. Европа | Jul 19 18:42 | |
| XRevan86 | https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/07/19/russian-mp-ukraine-conducted-experiments-to-turn-its-soldiers-into-vicious-and-deadly-monsters-news "Russian MP: Ukraine conducted experiments to turn its soldiers into ‘vicious and deadly monsters’" %) | Jul 19 18:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-novayagazeta.eu | Новая газета. Европа | Jul 19 18:42 | |
| techrights-news | The 6 Best Linux Camera Apps to Get the Most Out of Your Webcam • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167415 | Jul 19 18:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The 6 Best Linux Camera Apps to Get the Most Out of Your Webcam | Tux Machines | Jul 19 18:43 | |
| XRevan86 | https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/07/19/resident-of-ukraines-hostomel-locates-his-airpods-in-russia-after-russian-forces-pulled-out-of-the-region-his-wifes-sex-toy-was-also-stolen-news "Resident of Ukraine’s Hostomel locates his AirPods in Russia after Russian forces pulled out of the region. His wife’s sex toy was also stolen" | Jul 19 18:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-novayagazeta.eu | Новая газета. Европа | Jul 19 18:43 | |
| matey | <schestowitz[TR2]> did tghomas lord from fsf just die? <- i dont know but if hes dead id trust him more | Jul 19 18:43 |
| matey | does he go by "tom laaaord" also? <- why would he do that | Jul 19 18:43 |
| XRevan86 | https://themoscowtimes.com/2022/07/19/a78344 | Jul 19 18:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.themoscowtimes.com | North Korean Builders to Help With Donbas Reconstruction – Russian Ambassador - The Moscow Times | Jul 19 18:43 | |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I always see thomas lord | Jul 19 18:43 |
| XRevan86 | https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/07/19/mayor-over-10000-people-held-at-filtration-camps-in-mariupol-news "Mayor: over 10,000 people held at ‘filtration camps’ in Mariupol" | Jul 19 18:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-novayagazeta.eu | Новая газета. Европа | Jul 19 18:43 | |
| schestowitz[TR2] | he supported RMS and us, too | Jul 19 18:44 |
| matey | he was on the lieplanet mailing list a few weeks ago | Jul 19 18:44 |
| matey | <schestowitz[TR2]> he supported RMS and us, too <- you said that about sjvn | Jul 19 18:44 |
| matey | i called him before you did | Jul 19 18:44 |
| matey | your information is out of date | Jul 19 18:44 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | he was an early fsf staff | Jul 19 18:44 |
| matey | so was kuhn | Jul 19 18:44 |
| matey | lord is an opportunist. hes a little bit two faced | Jul 19 18:45 |
| *earthling (~earthling@bbhzxabdqb954.irc) has joined #techrights | Jul 19 18:45 | |
| matey | i dont know if hes a lot two-faced | Jul 19 18:45 |
| matey | or how important it is | Jul 19 18:45 |
| matey | but i wont ever trust him | Jul 19 18:45 |
| matey | i know he said supportive things | Jul 19 18:45 |
| techrights-news | 5 tips for securing SSH on your Linux servers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167416 | Jul 19 18:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 5 tips for securing SSH on your Linux servers | Tux Machines | Jul 19 18:45 | |
| matey | doesnt matter. opportunists "friend" people all the time | Jul 19 18:45 |
| matey | you have to smile at novell, etc | Jul 19 18:45 |
| matey | im not saying hes evil or even on the wrong side | Jul 19 18:46 |
| matey | i dont know what side hes on | Jul 19 18:46 |
| matey | im not sure he knows either | Jul 19 18:46 |
| matey | some people ARENT in it because they give a shit | Jul 19 18:46 |
| matey | theyre in it because theres coffee and donuts, or whatever | Jul 19 18:46 |
| matey | "more people will come if they think we have punch and pie" | Jul 19 18:47 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | https://berkeleydailyplanet.com/issue/2022-06-26/article/49837 | Jul 19 18:47 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | it's; him | Jul 19 18:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-berkeleydailyplanet.com | Thomas Lord 1966-2022. Category: Obituaries from The Berkeley Daily Planet | Jul 19 18:47 | |
| schestowitz[TR2] | about 55 years old | Jul 19 18:47 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | " | Jul 19 18:47 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | He died unexpectedly this week of a massive brain hemorrhage. | Jul 19 18:47 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | " | Jul 19 18:47 |
| matey | i take it back, maybe he was ill | Jul 19 18:48 |
| matey | im not doing it because im worried how it looks, i call it like i see it, always do | Jul 19 18:48 |
| matey | but if he just died maybe that explains some of the things he said recently | Jul 19 18:48 |
| matey | so im discounting them | Jul 19 18:48 |
| matey | thats fair | Jul 19 18:49 |
| matey | its possible he had a stroke before this | Jul 19 18:51 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | matey: lord was the anti-kuhn | Jul 19 18:51 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | he was publcily firing back to deb icaza and chums | Jul 19 18:51 |
| matey | good to know | Jul 19 18:51 |
| matey | i dont know if id take your word for it, but it could be true | Jul 19 18:51 |
| matey | a stroke can make people a lot more susceptible to public opinion, actually | Jul 19 18:52 |
| matey | so if he was arguing before | Jul 19 18:52 |
| matey | and had a stroke before his death | Jul 19 18:52 |
| matey | he could start parroting some things people said | Jul 19 18:52 |
| matey | ive kwown people who became that way following such an event | Jul 19 18:52 |
| matey | thats the benefit of the doubt | Jul 19 18:52 |
| matey | it caught me off guard because i thought he was on our side | Jul 19 18:53 |
| techrights-news | Tom Lord RIP • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167417 | Jul 19 18:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tom Lord RIP | Tux Machines | Jul 19 18:53 | |
| matey | but im not going to put too much weight on a sudden (apparent) about face from a dying man | Jul 19 18:53 |
| matey | its possible his death came out of nowhere but often these things have some similar event that precedes them | Jul 19 18:54 |
| matey | a heart attack before heart attack, a stroke before a stroke | Jul 19 18:54 |
| matey | so im willing to put my suspicions aside entirely | Jul 19 18:54 |
| matey | might as well | Jul 19 18:55 |
| matey | there was one thing worth mentioning | Jul 19 18:56 |
| matey | a long time ago, there was some interview about him and the fsf | Jul 19 18:57 |
| matey | it was weird-- it was intriguing no matter what you think of either party | Jul 19 18:57 |
| matey | /me imagines someone tapping his larynx | Jul 19 18:57 |
| matey | "boop" | Jul 19 18:58 |
| techrights-news | Temperature records today in UK. We're past 40. Midlife climate crisis. | Jul 19 18:58 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▆▄▇▅▅▆▆▅▅▃▄▄▅▅▃▆▇▇▅▆▄▄▆▇▆▇▅▆▅▅▇▆▇▅▅▅▁ avg(k/sec) 28.33 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▁▁▂▂▂▁▂▁█▁▁▂▁▂▁▂▁▂▂▁▂▁▁▁▂▁▂▂▁▂▁▁▂▂▁▁▂▂▁ avg(k/sec) 16.45▕ swarm size (avg): 0 ⟲ | Jul 19 18:59 |
| matey | maybe lieplanet killed him | Jul 19 18:59 |
| matey | they do take loyalty to the extreme | Jul 19 19:00 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | not the time for jokes | Jul 19 19:00 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | he died young | Jul 19 19:00 |
| matey | if he was against this bullshit | Jul 19 19:00 |
| matey | he would not mind a joke at their expense | Jul 19 19:00 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | search thomas lord in techrfights | Jul 19 19:00 |
| matey | ive already read many mentions of him in techrights | Jul 19 19:00 |
| matey | thats why i always assumed (and i guess, will assume) he was on our side | Jul 19 19:01 |
| *phobos has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) | Jul 19 19:01 | |
| matey | one of the last things he said was that people upset about lieplanets continuing bullshit against stallman constituted "hero worship" | Jul 19 19:02 |
| matey | thats what im overlooking in light of events | Jul 19 19:02 |
| matey | i take issue with that, but i already explained what i think about it in light of events | Jul 19 19:03 |
| matey | they didnt cancel stallman to cancel stallman | Jul 19 19:03 |
| matey | they did it to stop him and his followers | Jul 19 19:03 |
| matey | they didnt cancel torvalds to cancel torvalds either | Jul 19 19:04 |
| matey | they did it to stop him from having a voice against the upcoming bullshit | Jul 19 19:04 |
| matey | and to stop tso from becoming king instead of gkh | Jul 19 19:04 |
| matey | so i take serious issue with this "hero worship" bullshit | Jul 19 19:04 |
| matey | no matter who it comes from | Jul 19 19:04 |
| matey | its just an excuse to rewrite history, which is the open source way | Jul 19 19:04 |
| matey | open source gets creative with facts and history to paint people who fight for freedom as unimportant | Jul 19 19:05 |
| matey | it is an extremely scummy enterprise | Jul 19 19:05 |
| matey | standing up to such bullshit is not "hero worship" | Jul 19 19:05 |
| matey | its preventing people from rewriting history for the sake of corporate hegemony | Jul 19 19:05 |
| matey | stalin said his third international opponents were nazi sympathisers | Jul 19 19:07 |
| matey | all while he signed a pact with hitler and told his armies to stand down against invasion | Jul 19 19:08 |
| matey | its amazing how similar that is to whats going on in free software | Jul 19 19:08 |
| matey | but such opportunistic treachery has many historical examples | Jul 19 19:08 |
| matey | people throw fights while looking heroic | Jul 19 19:08 |
| matey | its incredible what people will do | Jul 19 19:09 |
| matey | mincer says its because humans suck | Jul 19 19:09 |
| matey | many do at least | Jul 19 19:09 |
| matey | its clear that most of the good ones are engaged at the moment | Jul 19 19:10 |
| matey | or otherwise engaged | Jul 19 19:10 |
| matey | or waiting for something | Jul 19 19:10 |
| *matey has quit (connection closed) | Jul 19 19:10 | |
| schestowitz | https://nitter.it/thomas_lord/status/1174433645110513664 | Jul 19 19:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Thomas Lord (@thomas_lord): "Sure, let's talk about Bushnell, @migueldeicaza. For context, let's begin here: a variety of powerful people at MIT - none of them RMS - knowingly and enthusiastically sold out the institution to a millionaire pedophile and eugenicist, and attempted to cover it up."|nitter.it | Jul 19 19:12 | |
| Ariadne | oh my god | Jul 19 19:14 |
| earthling | would RMS want to stand up and say: "see this, this is the GNU compiler collection, i am proud of this, it's 'free software'" | Jul 19 19:14 |
| Ariadne | micros~1 wants to do SBOMs of office in the next version | Jul 19 19:14 |
| phanes | < Ariadne> oh my god <-- becky, look at her butt? | Jul 19 19:14 |
| Ariadne | this is going to be hilarious | Jul 19 19:15 |
| earthling | and Torvalds: "amazing, we got a kernel here, which supports everything, first and foremost malicious hardware to run video games glorifying terror and murder" | Jul 19 19:15 |
| Ariadne | it's just going to be | Jul 19 19:15 |
| Ariadne | word.exe depends on [list of proprietary shit you will never see] | Jul 19 19:15 |
| Ariadne | what a self-own | Jul 19 19:15 |
| techrights-news | NSO Group’s Pegasus Spyware Used against Thailand Pro-Democracy Activists and Leaders https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/07/nso-groups-pegasus-spyware-used-against-thailand-pro-democracy-activists-and-leaders.html | Jul 19 19:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-NSO Group’s Pegasus Spyware Used against Thailand Pro-Democracy Activists and Leaders - Schneier on Security | Jul 19 19:16 | |
| phanes | Ariadne: all of that code is visible in the CLR though isn't it? I haven't checked but assume it would be | Jul 19 19:16 |
| phanes | it's all managed code | Jul 19 19:16 |
| Ariadne | i'm sure there are proprietary bits | Jul 19 19:16 |
| phanes | .NET: It's so good we don't use it, because it exposes all of our proprietary secrets if we do. | Jul 19 19:18 |
| techrights-news | Public Knowledge Urges Committee To Support American Data Privacy and Protection Act - Public Knowledge ⚓ https://publicknowledge.org/public-knowledge-urges-committee-to-support-american-data-privacy-and-protection-act/ ䷉ Source: publicknowledge | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//publicknowledge.org/public-knowledge-urges-committee-to-support-american-data-privacy-and-protection-act/ | Jul 19 19:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-publicknowledge.org | Public Knowledge Urges Committee To Support American Data Privacy and Protection Act - Public Knowledge | Jul 19 19:19 | |
| techrights-news | Google #Android Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167418 | Jul 19 19:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jul 19 19:19 | |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167419 | Jul 19 19:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jul 19 19:20 | |
| phanes | earthling: gcc is dead, it just doesn't know it yet. just a bunch of old dudes arguing about shit these days instead of fixing their damned project structure and compilation scaffolding | Jul 19 19:20 |
| Ariadne | what? | Jul 19 19:22 |
| Ariadne | gcc 12 has the most complete implementation of C++23 | Jul 19 19:23 |
| Ariadne | clang++ is very behind | Jul 19 19:23 |
| bnchs | msvc is still behind on C implementation | Jul 19 19:24 |
| bnchs | like if you wanna compare implementations, msvc probably has the worst one | Jul 19 19:24 |
| Ariadne | i am just responding to "gcc is dead" | Jul 19 19:28 |
| Ariadne | seems to be quite alive to me | Jul 19 19:28 |
| bnchs | yeah gcc is still alive | Jul 19 19:29 |
| phanes | Ariadne: btw, are you close with lovecruft/reichwein or is your association with garrett? | Jul 19 19:32 |
| Ariadne | i wasn | Jul 19 19:36 |
| Ariadne | 't aware that my social connections were open to your scrutiny | Jul 19 19:37 |
| phanes | no scrutiny intended, just curious about what the connection is there | Jul 19 19:37 |
| Ariadne | there isn't one | Jul 19 19:37 |
| phanes | i mean | Jul 19 19:37 |
| phanes | i dont buy it, but ok | Jul 19 19:37 |
| Ariadne | i really do not care what you 'buy' or do not buy | Jul 19 19:38 |
| phanes | that's a given, i'd imagine indifference to being called a liar would be a natural defensive development at this point | Jul 19 19:39 |
| phanes | "mental armor" as it were | Jul 19 19:39 |
| *phanes has quit (You have been banned from this server) | Jul 19 19:40 | |
| Ariadne | schestowitz[TR2]: if you don't like it, you can find new hosting | Jul 19 19:40 |
| Ariadne | i am not going to tolerate harassment | Jul 19 19:41 |
| *phanes (~root@rhcesj5kae73u.irc) has joined #techrights | Jul 19 19:42 | |
| *phanes has quit (You have been banned from this server) | Jul 19 19:43 | |
| MinceR | looks like i missed today's drama :> | Jul 19 19:58 |
| Ariadne | i mean, i was fine with him being here until he decided to pick a fight | Jul 19 19:59 |
| bnchs | what happened | Jul 19 19:59 |
| MinceR | 19 191332 < matey> i imagine he has a fair bit of executive planning skills | Jul 19 20:00 |
| MinceR | one does not need a lot of executive planning skill to just be a stooge for MICROS~1 | Jul 19 20:00 |
| Ariadne | still looking forward to MICROS~1 releasing SBOMs for office | Jul 19 20:00 |
| Ariadne | this is going to be hilarious | Jul 19 20:01 |
| MinceR | 19 192938 < phanes> Conflict Liaison Intelligence Team | Jul 19 20:02 |
| MinceR | great acronym | Jul 19 20:02 |
| bnchs | sometimes, banning is needed | Jul 19 20:02 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Oh. | Jul 19 20:02 |
| XRevan86 | I should've caught that. | Jul 19 20:02 |
| *schestowitz[TR2] back | Jul 19 20:02 | |
| techrights-news | Linux Memory Statistics - Dropbear ⚓ https://dropbear.xyz/2022/07/19/linux-memory-statistics/ ䷉ Source: dropbear | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//dropbear.xyz/2022/07/19/linux-memory-statistics/ | Jul 19 20:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dropbear.xyz | Linux Memory Statistics – Dropbear | Jul 19 20:04 | |
| Ariadne | i mean, bluntly, i do not have any association with any of the people on phanes' doxing website | Jul 19 20:04 |
| Ariadne | outside of friend-of-friend acquaintances | Jul 19 20:05 |
| techrights-news | Asahi Linux now supports M2 Apple Macs - Geeky Gadgets ⚓ https://www.geeky-gadgets.com/asahi-linux-m2-apple-macs-19-07-2022/ ䷉ Source: geeky-gadgets | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.geeky-gadgets.com/asahi-linux-m2-apple-macs-19-07-2022/ | Jul 19 20:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.geeky-gadgets.com | Asahi Linux now supports M2 Apple Macs - Geeky Gadgets | Jul 19 20:05 | |
| bnchs | sometimes, you gotta need rules | Jul 19 20:05 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | to put it one way | Jul 19 20:05 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | mjg came here looking for a fight | Jul 19 20:06 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | so did phanes | Jul 19 20:06 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | neither is here to be helpful | Jul 19 20:06 |
| bnchs | lol mjg? | Jul 19 20:06 |
| bnchs | what did he say | Jul 19 20:06 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | they can find with each other elsewhere | Jul 19 20:06 |
| Ariadne | in this case i responded with z:line because that's what he understands | Jul 19 20:06 |
| Ariadne | i'll probably remove it later | Jul 19 20:07 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | he died not come here with techrights in mind | Jul 19 20:08 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | he's just stalking mjg | Jul 19 20:08 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | he came here IMing me | Jul 19 20:08 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I relased what he told me | Jul 19 20:08 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | that's what hje was here for | Jul 19 20:08 |
| Ariadne | well, for future reference, /quote help uban | Jul 19 20:08 |
| Ariadne | is apparently how you ban people on here | Jul 19 20:09 |
| Ariadne | at least it worked above :D | Jul 19 20:09 |
| Ariadne | i was just going to blackhole him at the network border | Jul 19 20:09 |
| MinceR | i could list it with dline, apparently | Jul 19 20:09 |
| Ariadne | oh it has /dline? | Jul 19 20:09 |
| Ariadne | weird | Jul 19 20:09 |
| MinceR | apparently uban is an interface to kline and dline | Jul 19 20:09 |
| MinceR | and possibly other stuff | Jul 19 20:10 |
| Ariadne | what a time to be alive | Jul 19 20:10 |
| MinceR | :) | Jul 19 20:10 |
| Ariadne | IRC has invented even more ways to ban people | Jul 19 20:10 |
| techrights-news | Rocky Linux 9 and Rocky Linux 8 Optimized for Google Cloud Now Available http://www.tuxmachines.org/comment/reply/167237 | Jul 19 20:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Rocky Linux 9 Officially Released with GNOME 40 Desktop, Improved Security | Tux Machines | Jul 19 20:11 | |
| techrights-news | The 6 Best Linux Camera Apps to Get the Most Out of Your Webcam • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167420 | Jul 19 20:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The 6 Best Linux Camera Apps to Get the Most Out of Your Webcam | Tux Machines | Jul 19 20:11 | |
| techrights-news | Zorin OS 16.1 Lite Review - Lightweight Linux ep. 2 - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=npxFFV9fisw | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/npxFFV9fisw | Jul 19 20:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Zorin OS 16.1 Lite Review - Lightweight Linux ep. 2 - Invidious | Jul 19 20:12 | |
| techrights-news | openSUSE 15.4 Quick overview #linux #openSUSE #Shorts - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=F0dPh9P7b4g | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/F0dPh9P7b4g | Jul 19 20:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | openSUSE 15.4 Quick overview #linux #openSUSE #Shorts - Invidious | Jul 19 20:12 | |
| schestowitz[TR2] | MinceR: gemini links for videos ^ | Jul 19 20:12 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | those work and let you download over gemini:// pretocoll | Jul 19 20:13 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | *protocol | Jul 19 20:13 |
| MinceR | nice | Jul 19 20:13 |
| Ariadne | new boxes are all set up btw | Jul 19 20:13 |
| Ariadne | when you are done developing your new stuff | Jul 19 20:13 |
| Ariadne | we can rebuild it on the ARM machines | Jul 19 20:13 |
| XRevan86 | Wow, a video that tells nothing worth knowing. | Jul 19 20:13 |
| Ariadne | https://social.treehouse.systems/@ariadne/108675592201048186 all i have to say about the phanes bs | Jul 19 20:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-social.treehouse.systems | Ariadne Conill: "grumble" - Treehouse Mastodon | Jul 19 20:14 | |
| MinceR | well, there's nothing interesting about any opensuse release, especially after 12.2 | Jul 19 20:14 |
| Ariadne | OBS is kinda cute | Jul 19 20:15 |
| techrights-news | Trying sd-boot and unified kernel images in a KVM virtual machine ⚓ https://www.berrange.com/posts/2022/07/19/trying-sd-boot-and-unified-kernel-images-in-a-kvm-virtual-machine/ ䷉ Source: berrange | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.berrange.com/posts/2022/07/19/trying-sd-boot-and-unified-kernel-images-in-a-kvm-virtual-machine/ | Jul 19 20:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.berrange.com | Daniel P. Berrangé » Blog Archive » Trying sd-boot and unified kernel images in a KVM virtual machine | Jul 19 20:15 | |
| Ariadne | though written in perl | Jul 19 20:15 |
| Ariadne | in 2020 | Jul 19 20:15 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Ariadne: we started a second git server on there | Jul 19 20:15 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | one dedicated to tuxmachines | Jul 19 20:16 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | git@tm.org | Jul 19 20:16 |
| Ariadne | kk | Jul 19 20:16 |
| Ariadne | those new containers are still x86_64 tho | Jul 19 20:16 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | it's mostly perl | Jul 19 20:16 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | the new cms | Jul 19 20:16 |
| XRevan86 | Ariadne: It's mostly Ruby. | Jul 19 20:16 |
| Ariadne | we will replace them with aarch64 ones later | Jul 19 20:16 |
| Ariadne | XRevan86: oh is it? | Jul 19 20:16 |
| Ariadne | i glanced at the sources | Jul 19 20:16 |
| Ariadne | all i saw was perl :D | Jul 19 20:16 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | the developer loves alpine so far btw | Jul 19 20:16 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I asked today | Jul 19 20:16 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | the commands are not hard to learn | Jul 19 20:17 |
| Ariadne | well, having ergonomic tools is part of software freedom imo | Jul 19 20:17 |
| XRevan86 | Ariadne: Weird. But there is Perl involved, but it's the older stuff. | Jul 19 20:18 |
| MinceR | (cat) https://ircz.de/p/2207149 | Jul 19 20:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/86cum8zz6ya91.jpg created on 2022-07-14 02:53:13.799919 | Jul 19 20:18 | |
| techrights-news | Asahi Linux now supports M2 Apple Macs http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167377#comment-34388 | Jul 19 20:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Asahi Linux adds support for Macs with M2 chips | Tux Machines | Jul 19 20:19 | |
| *phanes (~root@aiqfbwy62wvtw.irc) has joined #techrights | Jul 19 20:21 | |
| Ariadne | you know phanes, i was considering removing the bans | Jul 19 20:21 |
| Ariadne | but you continue to evade | Jul 19 20:21 |
| phanes | you get so mad when people call you a liar, i wonder why | Jul 19 20:22 |
| techrights-news | This is developed for bloat, waste of power, and back doors, not low energy, price etc. https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/07/19/nano-u12p-an-8k-digital-signage-player-powered-by-an-intel-alder-lake-processor/ | Jul 19 20:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Nano-U12P - An 8K digital signage player powered by an Intel Alder Lake processor - CNX Software | Jul 19 20:22 | |
| techrights-news | Get connected to your Nano with the Screw Terminal Adapter https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/07/19/get-connected-to-your-nano-with-the-screw-terminal-adapter/ | Jul 19 20:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | Get connected to your Nano with the Screw Terminal Adapter | Jul 19 20:22 | |
| phanes | i didnt even know she was an netop here lol | Jul 19 20:23 |
| Ariadne | phanes: no, i get mad when you come here to collect intelligence for your doxing/stalking/whatever project | Jul 19 20:23 |
| phanes | Ariadne: no light you cast on me has any impact | Jul 19 20:23 |
| techrights-news | "Commercial" here means nonfree https://www.qt.io/blog/commercial-lts-qt-6.2.5-released | Jul 19 20:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.qt.io | Commercial LTS Qt 6.2.5 Released | Jul 19 20:23 | |
| Ariadne | phanes: what is your purpose for being here, then? | Jul 19 20:24 |
| techrights-news | The Sustainability Impact of Technical Debt ⚓ https://www.datacenterknowledge.com/sustainability/how-reducing-technical-debt-improves-sustainability ䷉ Source: datacenterknowledge | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.datacenterknowledge.com/sustainability/how-reducing-technical-debt-improves-sustainability | Jul 19 20:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.datacenterknowledge.com | The Sustainability Impact of Technical Debt | Data Center Knowledge | News and analysis for the data center industry | Jul 19 20:24 | |
| phanes | So what was your involvement in the appelbaum thing? I think we talked about it before, I can't recall what your version was. | Jul 19 20:25 |
| Ariadne | what involvement? | Jul 19 20:26 |
| phanes | correct | Jul 19 20:26 |
| Ariadne | i said that some of the people who posted on the website were metamours, and i see no reason to disbelieve their claims based on personal observation of ioerror's behaviour | Jul 19 20:26 |
| phanes | metamours? I'm not familiar with this term | Jul 19 20:27 |
| techrights-news | [RFC PATCH 00/14] mm: relaxed TLB flushes and other optimi. - Nadav Amit ⚓ https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220718120212.3180-1-namit@vmware.com/ ䷉ Source: vmware | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220718120212.3180-1-namit@vmware.com/ | Jul 19 20:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lore.kernel.org | [RFC PATCH 00/14] mm: relaxed TLB flushes and other optimi. - Nadav Amit | Jul 19 20:27 | |
| Ariadne | phanes: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/metamour | Jul 19 20:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wiktionary.org | metamour - Wiktionary | Jul 19 20:27 | |
| techrights-news | [RFC] Function Multi Versioning on Arm ⚓ https://gcc.gnu.org/pipermail/gcc/2022-July/239134.html ䷉ Source: gcc | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//gcc.gnu.org/pipermail/gcc/2022-July/239134.html | Jul 19 20:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gcc.gnu.org | [RFC] Function Multi Versioning on Arm | Jul 19 20:27 | |
| phanes | metamours to you? | Jul 19 20:28 |
| Ariadne | one was | Jul 19 20:28 |
| Ariadne | a couple of others had a higher degree of separation | Jul 19 20:28 |
| *Ariadne shrug | Jul 19 20:28 | |
| techrights-news | [PATCHv5 00/13] Linear Address Masking enabling - Kirill A. Shutemov ⚓ https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220712231328.5294-1-kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com/ ䷉ Source: linux | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220712231328.5294-1-kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com/ | Jul 19 20:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lore.kernel.org | [PATCHv5 00/13] Linear Address Masking enabling - Kirill A. Shutemov | Jul 19 20:28 | |
| phanes | so who ran the website? | Jul 19 20:28 |
| Ariadne | no idea | Jul 19 20:28 |
| techrights-news | Huawei to introduce HarmonyOS 3.0 on July 27 - GSMArena.com news ⚓ https://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_to_introduce_harmonyos_30_on_july_27-news-55096.php ䷉ Source: gsmarena | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.gsmarena.com/huawei_to_introduce_harmonyos_30_on_july_27-news-55096.php | Jul 19 20:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Huawei to introduce HarmonyOS 3.0 on July 27 - GSMArena.com news | Jul 19 20:29 | |
| phanes | what about peter todd? know any of those folks? | Jul 19 20:29 |
| Ariadne | presumably somebody who had complaints about him :) | Jul 19 20:29 |
| Ariadne | nope | Jul 19 20:29 |
| phanes | i would like to know more about | Jul 19 20:30 |
| phanes | the social network links surrounding the appelbaum thing | Jul 19 20:30 |
| phanes | not just who was involved but how they were connected to each other | Jul 19 20:31 |
| Ariadne | well i'm sure 20 minutes on polycul.es doing some old fashioned OSINT work will help you figure it out | Jul 19 20:31 |
| techrights-news | Asahi Linux Now Supports Mac Studio and M2 MacBooks http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167377#comment-34389 | Jul 19 20:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Asahi Linux adds support for Macs with M2 chips | Tux Machines | Jul 19 20:32 | |
| Ariadne | in the meantime, this is techrights, not sexrights | Jul 19 20:32 |
| MinceR | lol | Jul 19 20:33 |
| Ariadne | also, i should note, you're still banned | Jul 19 20:33 |
| XRevan86 | Today is all about OSINT. | Jul 19 20:33 |
| techrights-news | "In this video we take a closer look at the upcoming MakuluLinux “GameR” Build, due in the next few weeks..." http://www.makululinux.com/wp/2022/07/19/makululinux-gamer-build-preview/ | Jul 19 20:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-MakuluLinux GameR Build Preview – MakuluLinux | Jul 19 20:33 | |
| phanes | ive been banned for 20 years lol | Jul 19 20:34 |
| SomeH4x0r | what ban? | Jul 19 20:34 |
| Ariadne | this server has not existed for 20 years | Jul 19 20:34 |
| Ariadne | in fact, it only exists because your previous boss decided to go dickswinging | Jul 19 20:34 |
| phanes | that was glorious | Jul 19 20:34 |
| phanes | and deserved, i might add | Jul 19 20:35 |
| Ariadne | yeah i am sure you enjoyed mass-akilling the #fsf channel | Jul 19 20:35 |
| phanes | not just deserved but warned about for years | Jul 19 20:35 |
| Ariadne | sure, freenode's governance problems were nothing new | Jul 19 20:35 |
| XRevan86 | So now everything's mostly as before, except IRC shrank a little bit. | Jul 19 20:35 |
| XRevan86 | and some names have changed | Jul 19 20:35 |
| phanes | look, they had plenty of opportunities to adjust and decided an authoritarian response would work | Jul 19 20:36 |
| MinceR | i would hope that more than just names have changed | Jul 19 20:36 |
| phanes | like years of opportunities | Jul 19 20:36 |
| phanes | mst brokered peace for some of those years and then they renegged on their agreement | Jul 19 20:36 |
| phanes | being fair doesn't mean being weak | Jul 19 20:37 |
| Ariadne | anyway | Jul 19 20:37 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/fsf-channel-canceled.txt | Jul 19 20:38 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/freenode-takes-control-of-fsf-channel.txt | Jul 19 20:38 |
| phanes | so whats the deal here, are you providing hosting for roy | Jul 19 20:38 |
| Ariadne | yeah for years now | Jul 19 20:38 |
| techrights-news | "The Rust team has published a new point release of Rust, 1.62.1. Rust is a programming language that is empowering everyone to build reliable and efficient software." https://blog.rust-lang.org/2022/07/19/Rust-1.62.1.html | Jul 19 20:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.rust-lang.org | Announcing Rust 1.62.1 | Rust Blog | Jul 19 20:39 | |
| Ariadne | phanes: so, you got an answer to your question, what other business do you have here | Jul 19 20:39 |
| phanes | well it's a good arrangement, the watchdogs dont bark if you're the one bringing the food out | Jul 19 20:39 |
| Ariadne | i think schestowitz[TR2] and i have called each other's bullshit plenty of times phanes | Jul 19 20:40 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | phanes causes trouble | Jul 19 20:41 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I learned this a year ago | Jul 19 20:41 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | when I first saw the nick | Jul 19 20:41 |
| phanes | i do cause trouble sometimes :D | Jul 19 20:41 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | why do it here? | Jul 19 20:41 |
| phanes | what i can promise though is that when i do, i do it for something i believe in | Jul 19 20:41 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | mjg was muted here for a year | Jul 19 20:41 |
| phanes | i am guided by a framework | Jul 19 20:41 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | after he was trying to cause a lot of trouble | Jul 19 20:41 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I just want to publish information | Jul 19 20:42 |
| SomeH4x0r | evil bans | Jul 19 20:42 |
| phanes | i want information to mean something | Jul 19 20:42 |
| techrights-news | "The Fedora Community in Panama recently celebrated the release of Fedora Linux 36. Our last in-person event was back in December 2019. Thank you to all the organizers, participants, and attendees who made the Fedora Explorer Day 36 event possible." https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedora-explorer-day-panama/ | Jul 19 20:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-communityblog.fedoraproject.org | ¡Fedora Explorer Day - Panamá! – Fedora Community Blog | Jul 19 20:43 | |
| XRevan86 | phanes: Go haunt Russian propaganda. | Jul 19 20:43 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | you used the term "sword of truth" | Jul 19 20:43 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | weird term | Jul 19 20:43 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | pen mightier than the sword? | Jul 19 20:43 |
| phanes | the pen is mighter than the sword | Jul 19 20:43 |
| techrights-news | 3 infrastructure principles every IT leader should follow | The Enterprisers Project ⚓ https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/7/infrastructure-principles-every-it-leader-should-follow ䷉ Source: enterprisersproject | Jul 19 20:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | 3 infrastructure principles every IT leader should follow | The Enterprisers Project | Jul 19 20:43 | |
| phanes | and truth is an immutable image | Jul 19 20:44 |
| techrights-news | Digital transformation = complexity ⚓ https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/7/digital-transformation-initiatives-start-now ䷉ Source: enterprisersproject | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/7/digital-transformation-initiatives-start-now | Jul 19 20:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | Digital transformation: 4 initiatives to start this week | The Enterprisers Project | Jul 19 20:44 | |
| Ariadne | is it stored on the blockchain ? | Jul 19 20:44 |
| XRevan86 | Whoever will come to us with a sword, from a sword will perish? | Jul 19 20:44 |
| techrights-news | syslog-ng Store Box SQL source - Blog - syslog-ng Community - syslog-ng Community ⚓ https://www.syslog-ng.com/community/b/blog/posts/syslog-ng-store-box-sql-source ䷉ Source: syslog-ng | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.syslog-ng.com/community/b/blog/posts/syslog-ng-store-box-sql-source | Jul 19 20:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-syslog-ng Store Box SQL source - Blog - syslog-ng Community - syslog-ng Community | Jul 19 20:45 | |
| mjg59_ | phanes: If your focus is the truth, why did you change https://punches-pawloski-fiasco.blogspot.com/ to be about "Jerry Thibodeau" rather than yourself? | Jul 19 20:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-punches-pawloski-fiasco.blogspot.com | The Truth about the Punches-Pawloski Engagement | Jul 19 20:45 | |
| phanes | mjg59_: your pile-on effort has failed. you missed your chance. | Jul 19 20:46 |
| mjg59_ | phanes: It feels like you're now making false accusations about someone as a result | Jul 19 20:46 |
| phanes | no it doesn't | Jul 19 20:46 |
| techrights-news | Videos: MakuluLinux, openSUSE, ajnd Zorin OS • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167421 | Jul 19 20:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Videos: MakuluLinux, openSUSE, ajnd Zorin OS | Tux Machines | Jul 19 20:47 | |
| phanes | i know you're desperate to make it go away but you were given clear terms | Jul 19 20:47 |
| phanes | and they were fair | Jul 19 20:47 |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167422 | Jul 19 20:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jul 19 20:47 | |
| mjg59_ | Did Courtney attack the reputation of "Jerry Thibodeau"? | Jul 19 20:47 |
| mjg59_ | Or is this a false claim about her? | Jul 19 20:47 |
| Ariadne | who the fuck is courtney | Jul 19 20:48 |
| phanes | the mistake you keep making is you pivot from where you are and not where you're going | Jul 19 20:48 |
| mjg59_ | Ariadne: Phanes's ex-fiance | Jul 19 20:48 |
| Ariadne | oh right | Jul 19 20:48 |
| Ariadne | now i remember | Jul 19 20:48 |
| Ariadne | some advice | Jul 19 20:48 |
| techrights-news | How to install Rocky Linux 9.0 - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=E7Xh4DLjJFo | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/E7Xh4DLjJFo | Jul 19 20:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | How to install Rocky Linux 9.0 - Invidious | Jul 19 20:48 | |
| Ariadne | life is too fucking short for whatever this bullshit is | Jul 19 20:48 |
| phanes | especially when there are consequences | Jul 19 20:49 |
| MinceR | 19 214444 < XRevan86> Whoever will come to us with a sword, from a sword will perish? | Jul 19 20:49 |
| MinceR | live by the sword; trip and fall on your sword; die by the sword. | Jul 19 20:49 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Ariadne> life is too fucking short | Jul 19 20:50 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Thomas Lord just died | Jul 19 20:50 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | aged 56 | Jul 19 20:50 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | he did so much | Jul 19 20:50 |
| Ariadne | see, exactly | Jul 19 20:50 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I didn't even know jyst how much | Jul 19 20:50 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | until he died | Jul 19 20:50 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | back in the 90s | Jul 19 20:50 |
| MinceR | is he the tla guy? | Jul 19 20:50 |
| Ariadne | yeah | Jul 19 20:50 |
| MinceR | i see | Jul 19 20:50 |
| MinceR | he died young | Jul 19 20:50 |
| earthling | TLA? | Jul 19 20:51 |
| Ariadne | "tom lord's arch" | Jul 19 20:51 |
| Ariadne | later GNU Arch | Jul 19 20:52 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | he supported us | Jul 19 20:52 |
| Ariadne | later GNU Bazaar | Jul 19 20:52 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | andrew project | Jul 19 20:52 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | fsf staff | Jul 19 20:52 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | https://nitter.it/thomas_lord/status/1174433645110513664 | Jul 19 20:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Thomas Lord (@thomas_lord): "Sure, let's talk about Bushnell, @migueldeicaza. For context, let's begin here: a variety of powerful people at MIT - none of them RMS - knowingly and enthusiastically sold out the institution to a millionaire pedophile and eugenicist, and attempted to cover it up."|nitter.it | Jul 19 20:52 | |
| Ariadne | phanes: you seem to have a lot of trauma in your life, and i hope you are able to heal someday | Jul 19 20:53 |
| techrights-news | Rocky Linux 9 Comes With New Security http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167237#comment-34390 | Jul 19 20:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Rocky Linux 9 Officially Released with GNOME 40 Desktop, Improved Security | Tux Machines | Jul 19 20:53 | |
| Ariadne | best of luck | Jul 19 20:53 |
| phanes | if i thought you were able to experience empathy i'd believe you mean that | Jul 19 20:53 |
| phanes | that you know anything | Jul 19 20:54 |
| techrights-news | Touch-sensitive steering for a RatCar | Arduino Blog ⚓ https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/07/19/touch-sensitive-steering-for-a-ratcar/ ䷉ Source: Arduino | Hardware | OpenHardware | Hacking | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.arduino.cc/2022/07/19/touch-sensitive-steering-for-a-ratcar/ | Jul 19 20:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | Touch-sensitive steering for a RatCar | Arduino Blog | Jul 19 20:54 | |
| techrights-news | Fedora / Red Hat Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167423 | Jul 19 20:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora / Red Hat Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jul 19 20:55 | |
| techrights-news | Visualising Bubbles (1500–1922) – The Public Domain Review ⚓ https://publicdomainreview.org/collection/visualising-bubbles/ ䷉ Source: publicdomainreview | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//publicdomainreview.org/collection/visualising-bubbles/ | Jul 19 20:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-publicdomainreview.org | Visualising Bubbles (1500–1922) – The Public Domain Review | Jul 19 20:55 | |
| Ariadne | phanes: I'm sure folks like mst will be glad to vouch for my ability to empathise with others, including overempathisation | Jul 19 20:55 |
| phanes | what's up w/ fedora these days anyway, they're doing some dumb shit with systemd again | Jul 19 20:55 |
| techrights-news | CISA released Security Advisory on MiCODUS MV720 Global Positioning System (GPS) Tracker https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/07/19/cisa-released-security-advisory-micodus-mv720-global-positioning | Jul 19 20:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | CISA released Security Advisory on MiCODUS MV720 Global Positioning System (GPS) Tracker | CISA | Jul 19 20:56 | |
| techrights-news | "This advisory contains mitigations for Use of Hard-coded Credentials, Improper Authentication, Cross-site Scripting, and Authorization Bypass Through User-controlled Key vulnerabilities in the MiCODUS MV720 GPS tracker." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-200-01 | Jul 19 20:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | MiCODUS MV720 GPS tracker | CISA | Jul 19 20:56 | |
| phanes | Ariadne: that someone needs to explain to you the difference between experience and your projected image of experience kind of makes this a hard conversation to navigate without you being offended | Jul 19 20:56 |
| techrights-news | "Successful exploitation of these vulnerabilities could allow unauthorized access, upload malicious files, and cause a denial-of-service condition." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-193-01 | Jul 19 20:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | Dahua ASI7213X-T1 (Update A) | CISA | Jul 19 20:57 | |
| phanes | if you had 2000 people vouch for your internal experience it wouldn't mean anything | Jul 19 20:57 |
| Ariadne | phanes: i think it is more that you have biases against me because i did not like what your previous boss did with freenode | Jul 19 20:57 |
| Ariadne | but, that's fine :) | Jul 19 20:57 |
| phanes | i have difficulty with | Jul 19 20:58 |
| phanes | alot of the decisions that were made | Jul 19 20:58 |
| techrights-news | Not because Microsoft has changes, only due to massive blowback https://www.theregister.com/2022/07/19/microsoft_store_policy/ | Jul 19 20:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Microsoft tweaks Store policy for open source once again • The Register | Jul 19 20:58 | |
| Ariadne | and yet, you gleefully roleplayed as one of the four horseman of the apocalypse as #fsf was closed down forcefully | Jul 19 20:58 |
| Ariadne | fascinating | Jul 19 20:58 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▆▄▇▅▅▆▆▅▅▃▄▄▅▅▃▆▇▇▅▆▄▄▆▇▆▇▅▆▅▅▇▆▇▅▅▅▁ avg(k/sec) 28.33 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▁▁▂▂▂▁▂▁█▁▁▂▁▂▁▂▁▂▂▁▂▁▁▁▂▁▂▂▁▂▁▁▂▂▁▁▂▂▁ avg(k/sec) 16.45▕ swarm size (avg): 0 ⟲ | Jul 19 20:59 |
| phanes | yes i recall several leaders at the fsf resigning shortly after due to a convergeance of pressures between that and other things, it was a weird time | Jul 19 21:00 |
| phanes | so soon aftrer the stallman drama too | Jul 19 21:01 |
| phanes | its almost like | Jul 19 21:01 |
| phanes | there was some guiding force behind all of it | Jul 19 21:01 |
| techrights-news | A look back in celebration of Inkscape contributors & milestones in 2021 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164931#comment-34391 | Jul 19 21:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | What you’ll find inside Inkscape version 1.2 | Tux Machines | Jul 19 21:01 | |
| *phanes shrugs | Jul 19 21:01 | |
| phanes | who knows | Jul 19 21:01 |
| Ariadne | are you taking credit for disrupting operations at the FSF or something? | Jul 19 21:01 |
| phanes | im on friendly terms with the fsf as it is today | Jul 19 21:02 |
| phanes | so im not really tracking you | Jul 19 21:02 |
| techrights-news | Apple only adopted it because it's afraid of the GNU General Public Licence https://foursixnine.io//blog/osx/homebrew/zsh/2022/07/13/In-case-your-zsh-completion-is-broken-on-OSX-with-homebrew.html | Jul 19 21:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-foursixnine.io | In case your zsh completion is broken on OSX with homebrew | foursixnine’s lair | Jul 19 21:02 | |
| Ariadne | 3:01 PM <phanes> there was some guiding force behind all of it | Jul 19 21:03 |
| phanes | it really does seem like that looking back | Jul 19 21:03 |
| Ariadne | fascinating | Jul 19 21:03 |
| Ariadne | but seriously, you should probably find a therapist to talk about your trauma | Jul 19 21:07 |
| techrights-news | "Currently I am working on a Web-of-Trust implementation for the OpenPGP library PGPainless. This work will be funded by the awesome NLnet foundation through NGI Assure. Check them out! NGI Assure is made possible with financial support from the European Commission’s Next Generation Internet programme." https://blog.jabberhead.tk/2022/07/19/creating-a-web-of-trust-implementation-certify-keys-with-pgpainless/ | Jul 19 21:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.jabberhead.tk | Creating a Web-of-Trust Implementation: Certify Keys with PGPainless – vanitasvitae's blog | Jul 19 21:07 | |
| phanes | that stuff just does not work on me | Jul 19 21:08 |
| techrights-news | Cirq Turns 1.0 | Gulag Open Source Blog ⚓ https://opensource.googleblog.com/2022/07/Cirq-Turns-1.0.html | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//opensource.googleblog.com/2022/07/Cirq-Turns-1.0.html | Jul 19 21:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.googleblog.com | Cirq Turns 1.0 | Google Open Source Blog | Jul 19 21:08 | |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167424 | Jul 19 21:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jul 19 21:08 | |
| techrights-news | [PATCH net-next V3 0/3] Introduce and use NUMA distance metrics - Tariq Toukan ⚓ https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220719162339.23865-1-tariqt@nvidia.com/ ䷉ Source: nvidia | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220719162339.23865-1-tariqt@nvidia.com/ | Jul 19 21:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lore.kernel.org | [PATCH net-next V3 0/3] Introduce and use NUMA distance metrics - Tariq Toukan | Jul 19 21:09 | |
| phanes | you'd think my rivals over the years you gathered information from about me would have at least given you some actionable intel | Jul 19 21:09 |
| Ariadne | phanes: well, regardless, i hope you find something that does work on you to solve it | Jul 19 21:09 |
| Ariadne | what rivals? | Jul 19 21:09 |
| phanes | shit, garrett did a better job | Jul 19 21:09 |
| techrights-news | AOCL 3.2 Released https://developer.amd.com/amd-aocl/ | Jul 19 21:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developer.amd.com | AMD Optimizing CPU Libraries (AOCL) - AMD | Jul 19 21:09 | |
| Ariadne | i hate to tell you but i'm not terribly interested in you | Jul 19 21:09 |
| *britney has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) | Jul 19 21:10 | |
| Ariadne | since the whole freenode shitshow, i've given approximately zero amount of thought about you honestly | Jul 19 21:10 |
| phanes | for that im glad, but you certainly did enjoy the cesspool that encouraged you to go over and "clean up" (aka use as a trojan soapbox) | Jul 19 21:11 |
| techrights-news | The Steam Deck Reaches a New Milestone with 4000 Games (Playable or Verified) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167367#comment-34392 | Jul 19 21:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Steam Deck hits over 4,000 titles marked either Verified or Playable | Tux Machines | Jul 19 21:11 | |
| techrights-news | Perl Weekly Challenge 174: Disarium Numbers and Permutation Rankings http://blogs.perl.org/users/laurent_r/2022/07/perl-weekly-challenge-174-disarium-numbers-and-permutation-rankings.html | Jul 19 21:11 |
| Ariadne | but things like https://punches-pawloski-fiasco.blogspot.com/ are clearly the work of a traumatized individual | Jul 19 21:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Perl Weekly Challenge 174: Disarium Numbers and Permutation Rankings | laurent_r [blogs.perl.org] | Jul 19 21:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-punches-pawloski-fiasco.blogspot.com | The Truth about the Punches-Pawloski Engagement | Jul 19 21:11 | |
| phanes | yes, 15 years or so ago was a rough period in my life | Jul 19 21:11 |
| Ariadne | it seems to have shaped how you view the world though | Jul 19 21:12 |
| phanes | you're not smart enough to wrap around how i view the world | Jul 19 21:12 |
| Ariadne | textbook coping response | Jul 19 21:12 |
| techrights-news | YaST Development Report - Chapter 5 of 2022 | YaST ⚓ https://yast.opensuse.org/blog/2022-07-19/yast-report-2022-5 ䷉ Source: yast | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//yast.opensuse.org/blog/2022-07-19/yast-report-2022-5 | Jul 19 21:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yast.opensuse.org | YaST Development Report - Chapter 5 of 2022 | YaST | Jul 19 21:13 | |
| Ariadne | anyway, i have to get back to doing work now. these workloads are not going to migrate themselves. | Jul 19 21:13 |
| *phanes shrugs | Jul 19 21:14 | |
| MinceR | https://files.explosm.net/comics/PBFguestcombined_04.jpg ( https://explosm.net/comics/pbfguestcombined#comic ) | Jul 19 21:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cyanide & Happiness (Explosm.net) | Jul 19 21:14 | |
| schestowitz[TR2] | record temperatures here today | Jul 19 21:15 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | all-time highs | Jul 19 21:15 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | and we listen to xmas music | Jul 19 21:15 |
| techrights-news | MicroOS Desktop Use to Help with ALP Feedback • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167425 | Jul 19 21:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | MicroOS Desktop Use to Help with ALP Feedback | Tux Machines | Jul 19 21:16 | |
| techrights-news | Security patches and GPS Fiasco • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167426 | Jul 19 21:16 |
| phanes | "good will baiting" | Jul 19 21:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Patches and GPS Fiasco | Tux Machines | Jul 19 21:17 | |
| techrights-news | "In addition to his climate and housing activism, he spent several years volunteering with students at Longfellow Middle School as part of the Writer Coach Connection program." https://berkeleydailyplanet.com/issue/2022-06-26/article/49837 | Jul 19 21:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-berkeleydailyplanet.com | Thomas Lord 1966-2022. Category: Obituaries from The Berkeley Daily Planet | Jul 19 21:17 | |
| phanes | we got a heat wave too | Jul 19 21:17 |
| earthling | am i mistaken, i remember phanes was associated with www.counterpunch.org ? | Jul 19 21:18 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | no | Jul 19 21:18 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | www.counterpunch.org is left-leaning | Jul 19 21:18 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | real left | Jul 19 21:18 |
| earthling | no what ? | Jul 19 21:18 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | so it's opposite to his beliefs | Jul 19 21:19 |
| phanes | im like right smack dab in the middle of the political compass | Jul 19 21:19 |
| earthling | no clue then why it crossed my mind... | Jul 19 21:19 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | www.counterpunch.org seems to e having issues lately | Jul 19 21:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | ramping up the paywall | Jul 19 21:21 |
| phanes | unless im being baited with good will hunting memeology and then i can turn into ronald reagan pretty good | Jul 19 21:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | and no weekend edition this past weekend | Jul 19 21:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | and that's rare | Jul 19 21:21 |
| phanes | the usa is in a credibility crisis | Jul 19 21:22 |
| phanes | among others | Jul 19 21:22 |
| techrights-news | An introduction to the Linux graphics stack • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167427 | Jul 19 21:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | An introduction to the Linux graphics stack | Tux Machines | Jul 19 21:23 | |
| techrights-news | Programming Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167428 | Jul 19 21:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jul 19 21:23 | |
| *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@tseqi6giwme3s.irc) has joined #techrights | Jul 19 21:24 | |
| techrights-news | Hallo Geminispace! gemini://gmi.derschwarzestrahler.at/gemlog/hallo_welt.gmi | Jul 19 21:25 |
| Ariadne | schestowitz[TR2]: what are your thoughts on gemini? i am thinking about moving to a static site, and am pondering just building a static site generator that generates both HTML and Gemini pages | Jul 19 21:27 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | this is what we do with tuxmachines | Jul 19 21:28 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | there is ite DB | Jul 19 21:28 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | that stores the pertinent content from which it exports to static html files | Jul 19 21:28 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | and to gemtext later | Jul 19 21:28 |
| phanes | almost nobody uses gemini, it's obscure | Jul 19 21:29 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | theeeeeeeeeee db helps when youuu want to edit a page and need to locate by date, title etc. | Jul 19 21:29 |
| Ariadne | phanes: it seems kind of cute though | Jul 19 21:29 |
| *britney (~britney@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #techrights | Jul 19 21:29 | |
| schestowitz[TR2] | phanes: techrights served 16,490 pages over gemini sicne midnight today | Jul 19 21:29 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-18.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-19.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Jul 19 21:30 |
| phanes | schestowitz[TR2]: that's fucking incredible but i dont see the utility if almost no one uses the platform being published to | Jul 19 21:30 |
| XRevan86 | Is anyone being harmed by it? | Jul 19 21:30 |
| phanes | i didnt say it was bad, i just said i dont understand the utility of it | Jul 19 21:30 |
| techrights-news | Devices: Nano-U12P and Arduino • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167429 | Jul 19 21:30 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | phanes: try it | Jul 19 21:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I get weather off it | Jul 19 21:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | git is managed by us in gemini | Jul 19 21:31 |
| Ariadne | i think its basically meant to be an artistic statement | Jul 19 21:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Devices: Nano-U12P and Arduino | Tux Machines | Jul 19 21:31 | |
| Ariadne | about how the web has lost its way | Jul 19 21:31 |
| phanes | tell ya what, ill give it a try if you switch to a proper ca chain :D | Jul 19 21:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | it does github mirroring, youtube | Jul 19 21:31 |
| SomeH4x0r | fuck this worsening shit | Jul 19 21:31 |
| SomeH4x0r | "proper CA chain" I mean | Jul 19 21:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | phanes: only about 10% of gemini uses L.E. | Jul 19 21:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | about 85% is self-signed | Jul 19 21:32 |
| phanes | so then you see the problem | Jul 19 21:32 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | gemini://gemini.bortzmeyer.org/software/lupa/stats.gmi | Jul 19 21:32 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | gemini://botond.online/en/stats/ | Jul 19 21:32 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 8.8% let;''s encrypt | Jul 19 21:32 |
| SomeH4x0r | the problem is that you trust the evil companies because you were told to trust them | Jul 19 21:32 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 8.9.2% self-signed | Jul 19 21:32 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 89.2 | Jul 19 21:32 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | SomeH4x0r: it can become a censorship mechanism | Jul 19 21:33 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | as browsers become more "strict" | Jul 19 21:33 |
| SomeH4x0r | I'm almost sure it will | Jul 19 21:33 |
| phanes | oh no, certainly not, but, i do know that peoples' browsers do, and if my goal is exposure, I know I need to use them | Jul 19 21:33 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | tor browser is not https-only by deefault | Jul 19 21:33 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | with CA, obviously | Jul 19 21:33 |
| SomeH4x0r | we have https://hstspreload.org | Jul 19 21:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hstspreload.org | HSTS Preload List Submission | Jul 19 21:33 | |
| schestowitz[TR2] | tor browser also comes with microsoft bing | Jul 19 21:33 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | aka DDG | Jul 19 21:33 |
| SomeH4x0r | and TLD preloads | Jul 19 21:33 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | because DDG (Microsoft () paid Tor | Jul 19 21:33 |
| SomeH4x0r | preloaded HSTS will become more and more spread | Jul 19 21:33 |
| SomeH4x0r | and then it will be censorship | Jul 19 21:34 |
| techrights-news | Free, Libre, and Open Source Software • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167430 | Jul 19 21:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Free, Libre, and Open Source Software | Tux Machines | Jul 19 21:34 | |
| schestowitz[TR2] | you ask them about it in irc | Jul 19 21:34 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | they instantly ban you | Jul 19 21:34 |
| SomeH4x0r | delete the Let's Encrypt certificate on the IRC | Jul 19 21:34 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | some clients are too dependent on CAs | Jul 19 21:35 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | with browser we link to http | Jul 19 21:35 |
| SomeH4x0r | such clients are shit and shouldn't be used | Jul 19 21:35 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | if the browser insists on https, it is there | Jul 19 21:35 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | but google firefox and google* chrom* would complain a little | Jul 19 21:35 |
| SomeH4x0r | https:// is fine, I tell people about it, as well as tell them to ignore the warning while it is still a warning and not an error | Jul 19 21:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Could not resolve host: is; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https:// is ) | Jul 19 21:36 | |
| XRevan86 | In what world HSTS is like censorship? | Jul 19 21:36 |
| SomeH4x0r | it will become censorship once it is enforced for everything | Jul 19 21:36 |
| XRevan86 | It literally cannot be enforced for everything. | Jul 19 21:36 |
| SomeH4x0r | no "trusted" certificate = not going to work at all | Jul 19 21:36 |
| phanes | i think he's implying CA's will arbitrarily revoke for sites who do things they don't like | Jul 19 21:36 |
| SomeH4x0r | correct. Revoke and/or not issue | Jul 19 21:36 |
| XRevan86 | That's not what HSTS means. | Jul 19 21:36 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | http://news.tuxmachines.org/ | Jul 19 21:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | | Jul 19 21:36 | |
| schestowitz[TR2] | https://news.tuxmachines.org/ | Jul 19 21:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://news.tuxmachines.org/ ) | Jul 19 21:36 | |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 403 | Jul 19 21:37 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | because self-signed | Jul 19 21:37 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | for 3650 days | Jul 19 21:37 |
| AdmFubar | https://www.theregister.com/2022/07/19/apple_butterfly_settlement/ | Jul 19 21:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Apple to pay $50m settlement for rotten butterfly keyboards • The Register | Jul 19 21:37 | |
| SomeH4x0r | it doesn't really matter what it means, it will be enforced to do evil | Jul 19 21:37 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | <phanes> i think he's implying CA's will arbitrarily revoke for sites who do things they don't like | Jul 19 21:37 |
| phanes | in all fairness pki is such a poorly standardized thing that pretends to be well standardized | Jul 19 21:37 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | clownflare did this 5 years ago | Jul 19 21:37 |
| phanes | every, literally every CA uses a different signing and endowment process | Jul 19 21:38 |
| phanes | pki is a clusterfuck that only continues to exist because the core premise is sound | Jul 19 21:38 |
| techrights-news | Links 19/07/2022: RIP, Thomas Lord, We’ll Miss You! | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/07/19/rip-thomas-lord/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/19/rip-thomas-lord/ | Jul 19 21:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 19/07/2022: RIP, Thomas Lord, We’ll Miss You! | Techrights | Jul 19 21:38 | |
| SomeH4x0r | there is CA/B Forum to standardize it | Jul 19 21:39 |
| SomeH4x0r | also, most websites probably use either Let's Encrypt or Cloudflare | Jul 19 21:39 |
| SomeH4x0r | the other CAs may eventually disappear | Jul 19 21:39 |
| phanes | SomeH4x0r: you should read Eric Fromm's "Escape from Freedom" | Jul 19 21:40 |
| SomeH4x0r | techrights is a honeypot in this regard | Jul 19 21:40 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | thw web is being swallowed | Jul 19 21:40 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | most protocols | Jul 19 21:40 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | and they make up new protocols | Jul 19 21:40 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | and then few companioes swallow everythung | Jul 19 21:41 |
| SomeH4x0r | putting a clownflared <iframe> on the pages, wtf | Jul 19 21:41 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | and tehey tell us the web is "open" | Jul 19 21:41 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | as long as we play by their increasdinglty oppressive rulles | Jul 19 21:41 |
| phanes | oh fo sho they need more antitrust legislation | Jul 19 21:41 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | which is exactly what they palnned alkl along | Jul 19 21:41 |
| phanes | it wasn't ready for the internet | Jul 19 21:41 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | SomeH4x0r: I wish fewer sites (e.g. kiwiirc would get off clownflare) | Jul 19 21:42 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I thought about self-hosting kiwiirc | Jul 19 21:42 |
| SomeH4x0r | why put kiwiirc there first of all? | Jul 19 21:42 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | but go to their web siteit's a yuck | Jul 19 21:42 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | the dependencies | Jul 19 21:42 |
| SomeH4x0r | self-hosting is a lie unless you do it on your own hardware | Jul 19 21:43 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | SomeH4x0r: many don't know what irc is | Jul 19 21:43 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | esp. peopele your age | Jul 19 21:43 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | you didn't grow up on dlanet | Jul 19 21:43 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | *dalnet | Jul 19 21:43 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | and many your age grow up on "phones" and "apps' (no you, I know) | Jul 19 21:43 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | SomeH4x0r: connections upstream are a bottleneck | Jul 19 21:43 |
| phanes | ive been on irc since like 97ish | Jul 19 21:44 |
| XRevan86 | Reminder that some Russian ISPs inject war propaganda into unencrypted web pages. | Jul 19 21:44 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | gemini is small pages | Jul 19 21:44 |
| SomeH4x0r | I did encounter these, but I was angry about the fact computers just work, and "phones" stop getting updates and support | Jul 19 21:44 |
| SomeH4x0r | though seems computers just have longer lifespan, I see attacks on x86 hardware now, fucking devilopers | Jul 19 21:44 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | SomeH4x0r: self hosting has its limits due to infra | Jul 19 21:44 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | and the topology of networks | Jul 19 21:44 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | we use ipfs | Jul 19 21:44 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | that helps make peers offload a bit | Jul 19 21:45 |
| SomeH4x0r | VPS-based hosting != self-hosting | Jul 19 21:45 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | but that's very very slow | Jul 19 21:45 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | and very bankdwidth intensive | Jul 19 21:45 |
| SomeH4x0r | or whatever else rented services | Jul 19 21:45 |
| XRevan86 | Own-software-hosting? | Jul 19 21:45 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | how would you host videos from home? peertube? | Jul 19 21:45 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | without many peers, peetube too is a molas | Jul 19 21:46 |
| SomeH4x0r | I know two persons who host IRC at home | Jul 19 21:46 |
| SomeH4x0r | you just put the videos on a HTTP/Gemine server | Jul 19 21:46 |
| SomeH4x0r | *Gemini | Jul 19 21:46 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | molasses | Jul 19 21:47 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | gemini is not good for large file | Jul 19 21:47 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | it hasa no crc and hashsum convention | Jul 19 21:47 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | not in the specs anyway | Jul 19 21:47 |
| SomeH4x0r | put checksums in a separate file | Jul 19 21:47 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | you can get large files from it | Jul 19 21:47 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | but not treliably | Jul 19 21:47 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/pUAjfHGsyK4 | Jul 19 21:48 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | you can get large files | Jul 19 21:48 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | but from home it would not work | Jul 19 21:48 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | peer-based has its limits also | Jul 19 21:48 |
| SomeH4x0r | open ports | Jul 19 21:48 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | you are too optimistic | Jul 19 21:49 |
| SomeH4x0r | don't do public services | Jul 19 21:49 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I already maxed up my home conenction | Jul 19 21:49 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | you mentioned irc | Jul 19 21:49 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | home connections are not very steady | Jul 19 21:49 |
| SomeH4x0r | I have low faith in public services, I quit IRC servers sometimes | Jul 19 21:49 |
| phanes | that'll teach 'em | Jul 19 21:49 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | irc must have very low ttl | Jul 19 21:50 |
| SomeH4x0r | I did remove techrights from autoconnect a while ago, I may quit eventually soon | Jul 19 21:50 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | you would limit yourself to people who host from home then | Jul 19 21:50 |
| SomeH4x0r | another similar-topic community was destroyed by a troll | Jul 19 21:50 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | and those are rare | Jul 19 21:50 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | https://netsplit.de/networks/statistics.php?net=techrights | Jul 19 21:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-netsplit.de | NO TITLE | Jul 19 21:51 | |
| schestowitz[TR2] | if you survey other networks | Jul 19 21:51 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | you might find they're all VPS or multi-server | Jul 19 21:51 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | and those who host from home are likely very small networks with few people | Jul 19 21:51 |
| SomeH4x0r | I need to try to reduce my socializing | Jul 19 21:52 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | you speak as if you tried it yourself | Jul 19 21:52 |
| SomeH4x0r | it doesn't help anyway | Jul 19 21:52 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | even in a country at war | Jul 19 21:52 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | with connection being litgerally bombed offline | Jul 19 21:52 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | we had to do traffic shaping at home just for ipfs and gemini | Jul 19 21:52 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | like setting packet priorities | Jul 19 21:52 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | for lower latencies | Jul 19 21:53 |
| SomeH4x0r | things will keep getting worse definitely | Jul 19 21:53 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | that's universally true | Jul 19 21:53 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | because there are more humans | Jul 19 21:53 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | and more pollution | Jul 19 21:53 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | and fewer resources per human | Jul 19 21:53 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | and digi-tech [sic] is just means for social control | Jul 19 21:53 |
| phanes | why not just use linode and rent the hardware out roy | Jul 19 21:53 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | and those who try to turn it around are facing herculian task | Jul 19 21:53 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | linode =- akamai | Jul 19 21:54 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | = dodgy ccompany | Jul 19 21:54 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | that issues linux-hostile reports while explkoiting linu | Jul 19 21:54 |
| phanes | is dodgy code for popular | Jul 19 21:54 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | the big datacentres swallow a lot | Jul 19 21:54 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | they call it "cloud" now | Jul 19 21:54 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | those clowns | Jul 19 21:54 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | SomeH4x0r: I understand your pain | Jul 19 21:55 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | tech is not our friend | Jul 19 21:55 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | and people who know tech better say that most | Jul 19 21:55 |
| SomeH4x0r | I have no friends | Jul 19 21:56 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | "self-checkout", "voting" machines... | Jul 19 21:56 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | SomeH4x0r: friends are overrated anyway | Jul 19 21:56 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | today "friends" mean "pressing some button" | Jul 19 21:56 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | and I'm told that to some people "sex" means "getting some app" | Jul 19 21:56 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | MinceR: where's that "knives are my friends"? | Jul 19 21:57 |
| SomeH4x0r | I'd better avoid having sex. It could lead to a lot of money wasted, for almost nothing. | Jul 19 21:57 |
| phanes | screw knives, get a sword | Jul 19 21:58 |
| MinceR | 19 223831 < phanes> pki is a clusterfuck that only continues to exist because the core premise is sound | Jul 19 21:58 |
| MinceR | i wouldn't call it sound | Jul 19 21:58 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | sounds dodgy | Jul 19 21:58 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | like "Secure" boot | Jul 19 21:58 |
| MinceR | any CA your browser trusts (even indirectly) can issue a cert for any domain, which can then be used to implement an MitM attack | Jul 19 21:58 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | as if bootkits are the biggest threat | Jul 19 21:58 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | wqhen Widndows has NSA back doors | Jul 19 21:58 |
| phanes | lol | Jul 19 21:59 |
| phanes | dude | Jul 19 21:59 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSA | Jul 19 21:59 |
| phanes | have you ever run a CA? | Jul 19 21:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft and the NSA - Techrights | Jul 19 21:59 | |
| MinceR | no | Jul 19 21:59 |
| phanes | run a CA for at least a couple weeks before saying that | Jul 19 21:59 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | running oner's own CA is almost pintless | Jul 19 21:59 |
| MinceR | would that somehow prove that CA-s are not subject to Rubber-Hose cryptanalysis performed by governments? | Jul 19 21:59 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | the "big club" won't add you to their chain | Jul 19 21:59 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | so tyou just simulate being a "big shot" | Jul 19 21:59 |
| MinceR | (i.e. they hit you with a rubber hose until you hand them your private keys) | Jul 19 22:00 |
| phanes | MinceR: pretty much, yes | Jul 19 22:00 |
| MinceR | sounds unlikely | Jul 19 22:00 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | CAs are for large-scale networked stuff like the Net | Jul 19 22:01 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | if you have a "homelab" you don't need a CA | Jul 19 22:01 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | you can do it ad hoc | Jul 19 22:01 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | it's also a privacy risk for intaanet | Jul 19 22:02 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | it leaks out rqueries | Jul 19 22:02 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | for no practical use at all | Jul 19 22:02 |
| phanes | ah crap theyre gonna try to ban 80% lowers | Jul 19 22:02 |
| phanes | let's go brandon | Jul 19 22:02 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz[TR2], https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/07/19/2014-ford-ev-ruined-because-owner-cant-get-14000-battery-pack/ | Jul 19 22:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | 2014 Ford EV ruined because owner can’t get $14,000 battery pack. – BaronHK's Rants | Jul 19 22:03 | |
| DaemonFC | I also talked about Eric Sandeen at Red Hat. | Jul 19 22:04 |
| DaemonFC | He bought a 2012 Nissan Leaf and then posted how he hoped the battery would fail in time to get a warranty replacement. | Jul 19 22:05 |
| MinceR | > regenerative brake parts | Jul 19 22:05 |
| MinceR | you mean the motor? :> | Jul 19 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | 4 years and 9 months after he bought it, it did, three months before he would have been on the hook to pay for it himself. | Jul 19 22:05 |
| *schestowitz[TR2] back | Jul 19 22:05 | |
| DaemonFC | Everyone who buys these damned thing and has nothing but problems out of it says it's the future of transportation. | Jul 19 22:06 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | last year I set up internal blog for my employer | Jul 19 22:06 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | and they asked about tls | Jul 19 22:06 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I did self-seigned | Jul 19 22:06 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | why would Linux FOundation be in a posititon to tell us if it's legit when LF cannot even see the thing | Jul 19 22:06 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | ter the browsers love to moan | Jul 19 22:06 |
| phanes | did you use the company CA or did you literally self-sign? | Jul 19 22:06 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | *yet | Jul 19 22:06 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz[TR2], "When Eric Sandeen at Red Hat bought himself a Nissan Leaf in 2012, by 2017 the battery was already acting up. Like every EV owner, he had to assure himself that cars that don’t even last 5 years “are the future of transportation” (everyone who buys them says that even if they don’t work and they just lost all their money), and said, he hoped his car battery would crap out by 2018 because then Nissan would be | Jul 19 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | on the hook to replace it. | Jul 19 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | Of course, car companies are shady. Sandeen only missed having to pay several thousand dollars for a new battery pack because the thing finally qualified to be warranty replaced a couple months before the warranty ended." | Jul 19 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | I recalled Sandeen buying one and googled how that turned out. | Jul 19 22:08 |
| techrights-news | 2014 Ford EV ruined because owner can’t get $14,000 battery pack. - BaronHK’s Rants ⚓ https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/07/19/2014-ford-ev-ruined-because-owner-cant-get-14000-battery-pack/ ䷉ Source: baronhk | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/07/19/2014-ford-ev-ruined-because-owner-cant-get-14000-battery-pack/ | Jul 19 22:09 |
| DaemonFC | He dodged a real bullet. | Jul 19 22:09 |
| phanes | speaking of bullets, 80% lowers are risking being banned | Jul 19 22:09 |
| DaemonFC | Well, you know what I say about that. | Jul 19 22:09 |
| DaemonFC | Let's Go Brandon! | Jul 19 22:09 |
| phanes | pipes out for brandon | Jul 19 22:10 |
| techrights-news | How to automate graphics production with Inkscape - Máirín Duffy ⚓ https://blog.linuxgrrl.com/2022/07/19/how-to-automate-graphics-production-with-inkscape/ ䷉ Source: linuxgrrl | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.linuxgrrl.com/2022/07/19/how-to-automate-graphics-production-with-inkscape/ | Jul 19 22:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.linuxgrrl.com | How to automate graphics production with Inkscape – Máirín Duffy | Jul 19 22:10 | |
| techrights-news | "Getting Assassin’s Creed Odyssey working on Linux Assassin’s Creed Odyssey is available for Windows only. However, with Proton and the Steam client, you’ll be able to enjoy it" https://www.addictivetips.com/ubuntu-linux-tips/how-to-play-assassins-creed-odyssey-on-linux/ | Jul 19 22:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://www.addictivetips.com/ubuntu-linux-tips/how-to-play-assassins-creed-odyssey-on-linux/ ) | Jul 19 22:11 | |
| techrights-news | Will Apple pay $10 for the sweatshop workers? These prices are LAUGHABLY INSANE!! How much does Apple pay to manufacture one? https://www.maketecheasier.com/deal/lowest-price-ever-apple-airpods-pro/ | Jul 19 22:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | Get Apple AirPods Pro for Less than $180 - Make Tech Easier | Jul 19 22:12 | |
| techrights-news | "This family learned an expensive lesson." https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/07/19/2014-ford-ev-ruined-because-owner-cant-get-14000-battery-pack/ http://techrights.org/2022/01/02/no-control-over-cars/ | Jul 19 22:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | 2014 Ford EV ruined because owner can’t get $14,000 battery pack. – BaronHK's Rants | Jul 19 22:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Index: Loss of Control Over Cars | Techrights | Jul 19 22:13 | |
| techrights-news | IBM-sponsored jingoism; the company goes down the drain, but it pays 'journalists' to pretend all is well https://www.nextplatform.com/2022/07/19/big-blue-turns-in-a-solid-quarter-for-systems/ | Jul 19 22:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nextplatform.com | Big Blue Turns In A Solid Quarter For Systems | Jul 19 22:14 | |
| techrights-news | ICBM business mode: shuffle the buckets, hide the fact you're rapidly shrinking | Jul 19 22:15 |
| techrights-news | Stark increase in government takedown requests in Lumen ⚓ https://www.lumendatabase.org/blog_entries/stark-increase-in-government-takedown-requests-in-lumen ䷉ Source: lumendatabase | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.lumendatabase.org/blog_entries/stark-increase-in-government-takedown-requests-in-lumen | Jul 19 22:17 |
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| techrights-news | "Two weeks ago I upgraded chiark from Debian jessie i386 to bullseye amd64, after nearly 30 years running Debian i386. This went really quite well, in fact!" https://diziet.dreamwidth.org/11840.html | Jul 19 22:17 |
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| techrights-news | Mike Blumenkrantz: Sad Trumpet Noises https://www.supergoodcode.com/sad-trumpet-noises/ "So wave farewell to the old code that I’ll probably delete altogether in Mesa 22.3, and embrace the new code that just works better and has been undergoing heavy testing for the past year." | Jul 19 22:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.supergoodcode.com | Sad Trumpet Noises – Mike Blumenkrantz – Super. Good. Code. | Jul 19 22:18 | |
| techrights-news | "This hasn't occurred But I clearly remember It just happening" gemini://josias.dev/notion/deja-vu.gmi | Jul 19 22:21 |
| techrights-news | Did Microsoft Block Linux On New Thinkpads?!? - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=ktHQISNl9Ic | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/ktHQISNl9Ic | Jul 19 22:22 |
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| techrights-news | How to Manage Users and Groups on Ubuntu 22.04 - LinuxWizardry ⚓ https://linuxwizardry.com/how-to-manage-users-and-groups-on-ubuntu-22-04/ ䷉ Source: linuxwizardry | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//linuxwizardry.com/how-to-manage-users-and-groups-on-ubuntu-22-04/ | Jul 19 22:22 |
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| MinceR | > Like every EV owner, | Jul 19 22:24 |
| MinceR | also like every BMW owner | Jul 19 22:24 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | there is no german word for "spares"? | Jul 19 22:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | german cars can be trojan horse for maintenance fees | Jul 19 22:26 |
| MinceR | :> | Jul 19 22:26 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | you buy preowned mercedes, within a couple of years you pay again that price just for repairs | Jul 19 22:26 |
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| phanes | id take my challenger over a mercedes any day | Jul 19 22:26 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | tesdla will be a shitshow in the decade to come | Jul 19 22:27 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | many cars bricked and impossible to fix | Jul 19 22:27 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | or write-offs | Jul 19 22:27 |
| MinceR | i'd take my vitara over a mercedes any day | Jul 19 22:28 |
| MinceR | and i did :> | Jul 19 22:28 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | "smart" cars: let's enroll components notorious for lasting 3-5 years into cars that otherwise could last 30 yearsa | Jul 19 22:28 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | "what speed you goin' at mike? | Jul 19 22:28 |
| earthling | the business model of Tesla isn't electric vehicles primarily, it is those "carbon certificates" which they acquire by manufacturing economically and ecologicially hazardous cars | Jul 19 22:28 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | "dunno, this display has not worked since the late 90s" | Jul 19 22:29 |
| MinceR | no "smart" car would last 30 years anyway | Jul 19 22:29 |
| earthling | it's a subsidy scam, orchestrated by USA, to funnel cash, and Tesla stock value are those "carbon certificates", because combustion engine manufacturers _must_ pay for those certificates | Jul 19 22:29 |
| MinceR | it was more of a "let's try to beat the japanese car industry at building kei cars" | Jul 19 22:30 |
| MinceR | it went about as well as it could be expected | Jul 19 22:30 |
| earthling | i'm not critizizung Master Elon or technological competence, certainly they got that in California | Jul 19 22:30 |
| earthling | nonetheless, the Tesla vehicles are subsidy fraud | Jul 19 22:31 |
| earthling | that's why, it is irelevant, what the qualities of electric vehicles are, because the incentive is the cash funneled with "carbon certificates" | Jul 19 22:31 |
| MinceR | from what i heard, their cars aren't exactly well designed or built | Jul 19 22:32 |
| earthling | don't think so, don't know, just saying economically and ecologically reasonable vehicles is NOT the business model of Tesla | Jul 19 22:32 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | their assembly/manufacturing and energy consumption is not green either | Jul 19 22:33 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | and afaik, you cannot geta tesla in greeen | Jul 19 22:33 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | they're typically black | Jul 19 22:33 |
| earthling | furthermore, other manufacturers presented their concept cars too, to compete with Tesla, such as Porsche | Jul 19 22:33 |
| phanes | whose business model in tasla | Jul 19 22:34 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | so they absorb heat | Jul 19 22:34 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | and then you need to turn on the A/C even MOAR | Jul 19 22:34 |
| phanes | yall talk about tesla strategy like its coherent and single-pringed and single-sourced | Jul 19 22:34 |
| earthling | however, german automotive industry decided against it; same with those "hybrid" engine vehicles | Jul 19 22:34 |
| phanes | are we talking musk's model? | Jul 19 22:34 |
| earthling | those are expensive to produce, with little to none at all benefit, economically or ecologically | Jul 19 22:34 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | status sybol | Jul 19 22:35 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | with short shelf life | Jul 19 22:35 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | california yuppies buy them | Jul 19 22:35 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | in europe teslas are rare | Jul 19 22:35 |
| earthling | furthermore, this "carbon certificate" subsidy fraud deserved attention from anti-trust regulators, to sanction anti-competitive and fraudulent business | Jul 19 22:35 |
| AdmFubar | https://www.propublica.org/article/two-cities-took-different-approaches-to-pandemic-court-closures-they-got-different-results#1371775 | Jul 19 22:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.propublica.org | Two Cities Took Different Approaches to Pandemic Court Closures. They Got Different Results. — ProPublica | Jul 19 22:35 | |
| earthling | yet, bet for it, there won't be any anti-trust against Tesla, because USA and their interests and their minions | Jul 19 22:36 |
| earthling | german politics is a prime example for this, who they are, and how they operate | Jul 19 22:36 |
| phanes | capitalizing on shallow west coast virtue signaling is a sound business model actually lol | Jul 19 22:38 |
| phanes | i wonder why they pretend not to know each other or have social links | Jul 19 22:40 |
| phanes | that is highly suspect | Jul 19 22:40 |
| earthling | another issue, with Master Elon and his business, i question the long-term ambitions | Jul 19 22:42 |
| phanes | to make money? | Jul 19 22:42 |
| phanes | he already did | Jul 19 22:42 |
| earthling | to rephrase this, i am not that much impressed, when they nuke a rocket to Mars, and leave a gigantic mountain of chaos on earth | Jul 19 22:43 |
| phanes | this "serious" twitter bid was the backstory he needed to liquidate his position in TSLA without causing a freefall | Jul 19 22:43 |
| earthling | i mean, technical chaos, and huge dump-yards of electronic waste with a life-cycle of a few month | Jul 19 22:43 |
| phanes | see if he buys any of those holdings back after the twitter fallout settles | Jul 19 22:44 |
| earthling | see, TTL7400 parts are manufactured for more than 50years now, doubt any of the Elon products will be | Jul 19 22:44 |
| phanes | he never created an interchangeable parts ecosystem so no they certainly wont be making tesla car parts 50 years from now | Jul 19 22:45 |
| earthling | the entire technological complex from silicon valley | Jul 19 22:45 |
| MinceR | will there be humans 50 years from now? | Jul 19 22:45 |
| phanes | yes. mostly. | Jul 19 22:46 |
| phanes | kinda. | Jul 19 22:46 |
| phanes | it wasn't ready for the internetw | Jul 19 22:46 |
| phanes | woops misclick | Jul 19 22:47 |
| phanes | i was just musing with someone recently about all the flying car futures we were supposed to have implemented by now | Jul 19 22:47 |
| phanes | 1000 years from now will be more like how it is today than the jetsons or blade runner | Jul 19 22:47 |
| phanes | we're in a brutal period at the end of an age of innovation where we will still grow but very very slowly compared to the last 200 years | Jul 19 22:48 |
| MinceR | https://files.explosm.net/comics/IMG_3619_02(1).jpg ( https://explosm.net/comics/img#comic ) | Jul 19 22:48 |
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| MinceR | i mean, surviving humans | Jul 19 22:49 |
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| phanes | you could probably set foot out of your targis 5000 years from now, in the clothes you're in now, the thoughts and language you have today, and just fit right in like you never travelled. | Jul 19 22:50 |
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| phanes | youd be lost on political events and history | Jul 19 22:50 |
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| phanes | but your daily life and technology will be almost the same | Jul 19 22:51 |
| phanes | except for the patrol bots that will dip your head in blue ink while cutting your penis off due to scientific consensus that it promotes some health benefit | Jul 19 22:53 |
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| phanes | the maintainers of the DSM will be hiding underground in an armed bunker | Jul 19 22:58 |
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| phanes | but other than that perfectly normal | Jul 19 22:59 |
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| MinceR | https://files.explosm.net/comics/Kris/smbc_guest_comic_small.png ( https://explosm.net/comics/smbc-guest-comic-small#comic ) | Jul 19 23:32 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz[TR2], Sandeen came to my blog to defend EVs. | Jul 19 23:40 |
| DaemonFC | I left a pretty long reply, but the gist of it was "They just lost more money in one go on one car than the worst car I ever owned from GM times six. I thought the 1995 Corsica was a lemon, but at least I was only in on it for a couple thousand bucks. Even it got me about 30,000 miles before all the lights came on, and I still felt pretty bad about buying it. I would have had a meltdown if someone cheated me out of $11,000 on something and | Jul 19 23:40 |
| DaemonFC | laughed that they got rid of it before it konked out on them.". | Jul 19 23:40 |
| DaemonFC | "I’ve driven quite a few clunkers. The Buick isn’t in bad shape.It’s a 2008 and will likely outlive most new EVs sold right this very minute. I’ve driven stuff that was so bad I was constantly pouring oil in it and hoping it got me to work and back for a while. But I’ve never been cheated as bad as these people." | Jul 19 23:43 |
| phanes | buicks are the ultimate beater cars | Jul 19 23:47 |
| phanes | i had an old buick beater in college and that thing just never gave up | Jul 19 23:48 |
| techrights-news | When Criminals Make It a Crime to Speak About Their Crimes | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/07/19/epo-non-disclosure-agreements/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/19/epo-non-disclosure-agreements/ | Jul 19 23:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | When Criminals Make It a Crime to Speak About Their Crimes | Techrights | Jul 19 23:48 | |
| phanes | those NDAs will get ya hard too | Jul 19 23:49 |
| phanes | i can't tell you much i want to talk about what happened at freenode thats bound by an NDA until 2023 (i think?) | Jul 19 23:49 |
| DaemonFC | "So far, the only part that I ran into that Buick doesn’t make anymore is a seat weight sensor that tells the car whether to fire off the passenger airbag or not. Luckily, I found a module that lies to the onboard computer and tells it someone’s always sitting there. So now my airbag light for the passenger always shows “on”. The government made them put these stupid things in because retards were putting their kids in the front | Jul 19 23:50 |
| DaemonFC | seat. I don’t have any kids, so meh. | Jul 19 23:50 |
| DaemonFC | This actually saved me money too. Buick said they’d have to take the whole damned seat out and replace a sensor pad, and it would be $400. I got in there and spliced in the module that cost me $60." | Jul 19 23:50 |
| phanes | it would prob be okay | Jul 19 23:50 |
| phanes | but | Jul 19 23:50 |
| phanes | its the point of the matter | Jul 19 23:50 |
| phanes | i knew what i was signing | Jul 19 23:50 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | what does andrew do now? | Jul 19 23:50 |
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| phanes | i have no clue i left in like june of 2021 | Jul 19 23:51 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz[TR2], I'm changing those links to Sandeen's blog. | Jul 19 23:52 |
| DaemonFC | I'm going to put them in archive.today in case he yanks them down. | Jul 19 23:52 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | possible | Jul 19 23:52 |
| DaemonFC | He's one of those EV fanboys that cries when you post bad things even though you're just quoting what he experienced when he bought one. | Jul 19 23:52 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | use archive.is | Jul 19 23:52 |
| phanes | contesting conflicting perspective is a source of growth | Jul 19 23:53 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz[TR2], So if you were going to copy it, please wait. | Jul 19 23:53 |
| phanes | its not a bad behaviour | Jul 19 23:53 |
| britney | didn't phanes get banned? | Jul 19 23:53 |
| phanes | all the time britney | Jul 19 23:53 |
| DaemonFC | It wouldn't surprise me if he yanked them down so it's a 404 so that his badmouthing of his own EV isn't cited anymore. | Jul 19 23:53 |
| DaemonFC | He got very defensive about it, calling 2012 Nissans a "first generation EV". | Jul 19 23:54 |
| MinceR | yeah, and the "growth" manifests in the form of realizing that you'll get nowhere engaging most people | Jul 19 23:54 |
| DaemonFC | Cars have had battery packs since the 1990s. | Jul 19 23:54 |
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| phanes | MinceR: approach is everything in conflict | Jul 19 23:54 |
| MinceR | i've wasted so much time and so many neurons arguing with stupid people | Jul 19 23:54 |
| DaemonFC | I still know someone who drives an old Honda hybrid from back then, and it still works! | Jul 19 23:54 |
| MinceR | and have nothing else to show for it except the realization that it was pointless | Jul 19 23:55 |
| earthling | DaemonFC: Edison presented an electric vehicle with NiFe batteries, 100years ago already | Jul 19 23:55 |
| phanes | but youre right some people aren't arguing to contest concepts, theyre arguing to win, and those people are stupid and shouldn't be engaged | Jul 19 23:55 |
| techrights-news | [Meme] EPO Ignorance is Bliss | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/07/19/epo-quiets-down-reps/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/19/epo-quiets-down-reps/ | Jul 19 23:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] EPO Ignorance is Bliss | Techrights | Jul 19 23:55 | |
| MinceR | but hey, humanity will get itself anyway and none of this will happen anyway | Jul 19 23:55 |
| MinceR | s/happen/matter/ | Jul 19 23:55 |
| MinceR | (see, i've already lost the pathways that would have enabled me to type the correct word on the first attempt) | Jul 19 23:56 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | earthling: hos did he charge the batteries? ;-) | Jul 19 23:57 |
| earthling | schestowitz[TR2]: burning coal to power a gas turbine with | Jul 19 23:58 |
| earthling | just like it is done today, to "safe the planet" | Jul 19 23:58 |
| DaemonFC | Edited again. | Jul 19 23:58 |
| DaemonFC | "Anyway, thank you Eric, for setting the record straight. Your Leaf and the Focus in the article both made it to about 60,000 miles before they wouldn’t have been worth fixing if you had to pay to do it. Only, you would have at least found a battery, then anyway. I’ve regularly driven gasoline powered cars that made it hundreds of thousands of miles. Maybe not the prettiest thing on the block, but I always smiled when people driv | Jul 19 23:58 |
| DaemonFC | ing something a lot newer, with the payments still going to the bank, said “Oh what’s wrong with this f***ing thing now!? Can’t even get me to work!?” and I’m over there pouring a bottle of oil in my old rust bucket and we’re good for another month." | Jul 19 23:58 |
| earthling | this is what they do, in germany, burning coal, to charge EV batteries with | Jul 19 23:59 |
| earthling | and then say, it's "renewable" | Jul 19 23:59 |
| techrights-news | Today we walked past the official store and some people already buy these... https://www.mancity.com/citytv/mens/2022-23-away-kit-launch-video-63793808 https://www.mancity.com/citytv/mens/202223-away-kit-launch-nasa-63793812 | Jul 19 23:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mancity.com | Play forever: Introducing our 2022/23 away kit | Jul 19 23:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mancity.com | Our 2022/23 away kit has landed | Jul 19 23:59 | |
| DaemonFC | <schestowitz[TR2]> earthling: hos did he charge the batteries? ;-) | Jul 19 23:59 |
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