The Bongo project was born out of the Hula project. Bongo is a mail and calendaring application not a "groupware" solution. It is completely independent of Novell, Messaging Architects and Hula. It aims to offer a great user experience, and revive the idea that mail and calendaring are useful tools rather than burdens.
Hula may not be alone. Remember Compiz? It turns out that Beryl was set up for similar reasons. This fork, which equips Linux with 'eye candy', sought independence from Novell, according to this very recent message, posted to the Compiz mailing list.
One assumption is that compiz is some kind of Novell controlled project that Novell will move in whatever direction it wants. This is completely wrong. I started the project and no one at Novell has ever told me in which direction it should go.
It was worth mentioning that Beryl was born before Novell had made its deal with Microsoft. Here is a nice demo of Beryl mimicking Windows Vista.
Comments
Stephen
2007-02-19 21:59:16
So Hula was dropped because Novell already had a collaboration solution. Cutting Netmail/Hula loose is a good thing - there's some terrific code in there.
As for Compiz, the comments are cool, but hardly damning of Novell. In fact, it's great that Novell support davidr in pushing compiz where it needs to go.
Roy Schestowitz
2007-02-19 22:20:08
I think that Beryl+Compiz are headed toward convergence.
Draconishinobi
2007-02-19 23:01:20
How impressive ... and also a completely useless waste of system resources ... I won't be getting either :)
This story isn't just about Microsoft. It's also about corruption, there are many women victims, there is abject "abuse of process", and many more scandals to be illuminated in years to come.
"The key change in this year’s Actuarial Study, due to cascading the new “risk appetite” from the financial study, is a significant increase of the total pension contribution rate of 5.7 percentage points, up to a total of 37.8%. This is driven by an unprecedented decrease in the discount rate of 105 bps down to 2.2%."
Some publicly available information suggests that even for each paid subscriber for plagiarism (LLM 'coding') GitHub Copilot still loses more money than it makes
Comments
Stephen
2007-02-19 21:59:16
As for Compiz, the comments are cool, but hardly damning of Novell. In fact, it's great that Novell support davidr in pushing compiz where it needs to go.
Roy Schestowitz
2007-02-19 22:20:08
Draconishinobi
2007-02-19 23:01:20