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| schestowitz | I gave Vista7 a knock: http://boycottnovell.com/2009/02/15/vi... Time for bed now.. | Feb 16 02:01 |
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| Goblin | Hi Roy! | Feb 16 09:01 |
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| MinceR | geekings | Feb 16 09:24 |
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| schestowitz | Hey | Feb 16 09:28 |
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| schestowitz | Mortal Kombat maker Midway goes titsup < http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/02/1... > | Feb 16 09:28 |
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| schestowitz | "Finish HIM!" | Feb 16 09:28 |
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| schestowitz | The Register is entertaining provocation and arseholes: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/02... | Feb 16 09:29 |
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| MinceR | i hope that doesn't mean there won't be any ut3 client for linnux | Feb 16 09:30 |
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| MinceR | but i guess they don't care anyway | Feb 16 09:30 |
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| schestowitz | ut3 for Linux, eh? How Duke Nuken Forever coming along? | Feb 16 09:34 |
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| schestowitz | *How's (they actually have this in beta though... ut3 for Linux, IIRC) | Feb 16 09:34 |
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| MinceR | :) | Feb 16 09:34 |
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| MinceR | it's been in the "Real Soon Now" state for over a year | Feb 16 09:34 |
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| MinceR | perhaps midway only got a license to sell it for windows or something | Feb 16 09:35 |
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| schestowitz | No, wait.... | Feb 16 09:43 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page... | Feb 16 09:44 |
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| schestowitz | http://icculus.org/cgi-bin/finger/finger.pl?use... | Feb 16 09:44 |
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| MinceR | yeah, icculus did show some screenshots | Feb 16 09:44 |
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| MinceR | that's far from an actual release | Feb 16 09:44 |
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| schestowitz | It's a collage | Feb 16 09:45 |
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| schestowitz | make a printout | Feb 16 09:45 |
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| PetoKraus | yeah | Feb 16 09:45 |
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| PetoKraus | his windae has nae borders | Feb 16 09:45 |
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| schestowitz | LOL | Feb 16 09:46 |
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| schestowitz | "Roses are Red | Feb 16 09:46 |
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| schestowitz | Lilies are white | Feb 16 09:46 |
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| schestowitz | Balmer's a bully | Feb 16 09:46 |
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| schestowitz | And windows is shite" | Feb 16 09:46 |
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| schestowitz | (from usenet) | Feb 16 09:46 |
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| MinceR | :) | Feb 16 09:46 |
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| PetoKraus | class.ic | Feb 16 09:47 |
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| PetoKraus | breakfast anyone? | Feb 16 09:47 |
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| PetoKraus | if you can make it in an hour, you're invited ;) | Feb 16 09:47 |
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| trmanco_ | hey schestowitz , just found this -> http://securitylabs.websense.com/content... | Feb 16 10:17 |
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| schestowitz | Thanks. | Feb 16 10:19 |
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| trmanco_ | it's on slashdot | Feb 16 10:19 |
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| trmanco_ | have to go, cya | Feb 16 10:20 |
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| MinceR | well, i can't see the ut3 screenshots now, probably it's the same coralcdn issue as earlier | Feb 16 12:11 |
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| MinceR | perhaps the node i can access is just broken. | Feb 16 12:11 |
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| schestowitz | Is this really nothing to do with Novell, as one comment in BN claims (contradicting other reports)? "East said the computer uses an ARM processor for email and Internet access when running the Linux operating system, but qualified this by saying "according to industry reports."" http://www.eetimes.com/news/design/... | Feb 16 12:19 |
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| oiaohm_ | Dell has plans to use arm processes for Linux. | Feb 16 12:44 |
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| oiaohm_ | For the simple issue of powermanagement arm processes run rings around x86. | Feb 16 12:44 |
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| oiaohm_ | 1/12 the powerpull using a arm processor compared to a x86 | Feb 16 12:45 |
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| oiaohm_ | Just like china lining up to use there mips based processor. | Feb 16 12:47 |
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| schestowitz | Yes, these too. China makes it cheaper though, MUCH cheaper. | Feb 16 13:00 |
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| oiaohm_ | Lack of labour laws help China a lot. | Feb 16 13:01 |
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| MinceR | not all of china, only the corps | Feb 16 13:05 |
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| schestowitz | Not just in China, either. | Feb 16 13:05 |
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| oiaohm_ | I like how MS is starting to time window the release pattern to try to make people buy Vista. | Feb 16 13:05 |
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| schestowitz | Parts of the world are becoming more like China (worse working conditions, surveillance, censorship, etc.) | Feb 16 13:06 |
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| schestowitz | oiaohm_: Vista isn't bought, it's imposed... like DRM. | Feb 16 13:07 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/998/1... "Allen wrote a $500 million cheque to DreamWorks when it was launched as a combination live action and animation studio in October 1994. The outfit was behind the Shrek and Madagascar franchises." | Feb 16 13:09 |
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| schestowitz | Hm.................... "The police say Skype's encryption system is a secret which the company refuses to share with the authorities." http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europ... | Feb 16 13:10 |
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| schestowitz | This contradicts stories from AT/DE that say the police has back door access to Skype. | Feb 16 13:11 |
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| schestowitz | http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/tec... "rederik Neij, Gottfrid Svartholm Warg, Peter Sunde Kolmsioppi and Carl Lundstorm have portrayed themselves as digital libertarians and believe that they cannot be prosecuted for copyright theft because none of the content is hosted on their computer servers." | Feb 16 13:13 |
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| oiaohm_ | Skype is a little harder to crack. | Feb 16 13:15 |
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| oiaohm_ | Its using user to user transmission as well with unque keys. | Feb 16 13:16 |
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| oiaohm_ | Ie not having the keys leaves you kinda stuffed even if you know what the forumalar is. | Feb 16 13:16 |
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| schestowitz | oiaohm_: they cab leave trapdoors in the transmission algo | Feb 16 13:18 |
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| oiaohm_ | Out going line to real world can be accessed schestowitz | Feb 16 13:19 |
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| oiaohm_ | client to client lot harder. | Feb 16 13:20 |
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| MinceR | skype should be considered malware and handled appropriately. | Feb 16 13:30 |
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| schestowitz | It also replicates itself | Feb 16 13:34 |
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| schestowitz | People ask you to use it, kind of like Facebooks, LinkedIn and other viral nonsense. | Feb 16 13:34 |
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| oiaohm_ | Nothing is more fun than a person asking me what anti-virus I run. | Feb 16 14:08 |
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| oiaohm_ | And me answering none. | Feb 16 14:08 |
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| oiaohm_ | Simple reason I don't run windows or any other application that can be virus plagued. | Feb 16 14:08 |
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| schestowitz | Anther way to put it is that "I don't run malware/spyware (Windows), so I don't need something 'against' it." | Feb 16 14:23 |
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| twitter | Software as a Service. Ha ha. http://boycottnovell.com/2009/02/16/gartner-fo... | Feb 16 15:19 |
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| schestowitz | gartner is desparate | Feb 16 15:21 |
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| schestowitz | Not many companies would pay for 'research'. Wait until they start praises Vista7 like they praised Vista | Feb 16 15:21 |
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| schestowitz | They can easily make half a million dollars in just one contract, based on those 'bills' from Bill's mailbox | Feb 16 15:22 |
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| MinceR | until bill runs out of money | Feb 16 15:26 |
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| MinceR | that is, when he can't fake any more | Feb 16 15:27 |
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| MinceR | is there a limit to their accounting tricks? | Feb 16 15:27 |
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| schestowitz | Bill has money | Feb 16 15:27 |
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| schestowitz | Bill != Microsoft | Feb 16 15:27 |
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| schestowitz | It's around part 6 of this series < http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CyJJq... > which talks about Enron. Good documentary which I warmly recommend BTW. | Feb 16 15:28 |
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| twitter | Bill will quit funding M$ as some point, but he's got something stupid like hundreds of millions of M$FT shares that he must protect. | Feb 16 15:29 |
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| twitter | If the value of those fall, Bill won't have money for M$. | Feb 16 15:30 |
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| amarsh04 | nice quote from another channel: "Any sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice." | Feb 16 15:30 |
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| schestowitz | Hehe. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/02... | Feb 16 15:30 |
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| twitter | So the end will come swiftly. Both collapse at the same time. | Feb 16 15:30 |
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| twitter | gotta go for a while, keep up the good work. | Feb 16 15:31 |
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| schestowitz | Pilots boycott gov ID cards < http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/02/... > | Feb 16 15:32 |
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| twitter | Airport "security" which abuses passengers is not funny. A woman died in the US after being accused of being a "terrorist". | Feb 16 15:32 |
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| schestowitz | What's the full story? | Feb 16 15:33 |
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| twitter | She was strangled to death in the only room in the airport without a camera, and killed all over again in a press smear job. | Feb 16 15:33 |
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| twitter | They claimed she killed herself trying to get out of her handcuffs. | Feb 16 15:33 |
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| schestowitz | Heh. | Feb 16 15:33 |
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| twitter | Her mom is some kind of activist in New York. | Feb 16 15:33 |
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| twitter | gotta go now, I'm getting late. | Feb 16 15:33 |
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| schestowitz | Yeah.. like she hit her head againat a bullet | Feb 16 15:33 |
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| schestowitz | Sounds perfect.. | Feb 16 15:34 |
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| schestowitz | Like the Russian police assassinating bloggers | Feb 16 15:34 |
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| schestowitz | They just accidentally died at the sttation after being detained for investigation | Feb 16 15:34 |
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| schestowitz | Investigation = "radical interrogation"? "Rendition"? | Feb 16 15:34 |
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| schestowitz | It's interesting how words come to mean the very opposite of what they are. | Feb 16 15:35 |
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| schestowitz | This depletes vocabulary, by design | Feb 16 15:35 |
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| schestowitz | Like Liberian, social, demonstration (should be a positive connotation)... | Feb 16 15:35 |
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| schestowitz | Hacker.. | Feb 16 15:36 |
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| schestowitz | Burp of Arctic laughing gas is no joke < http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn16602-bur... > "It seems the Arctic is belching out nitrous oxide – commonly known as laughing gas. Unfortunately, the punchline is that it is a powerful greenhouse gas." | Feb 16 15:46 |
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| schestowitz | Tesco email is broked < http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/02/1... > | Feb 16 16:10 |
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| schestowitz | Red Hat made a deal. | Feb 16 16:28 |
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| schestowitz | "RH signed reciprocal agreements with Microsoft Corporation to enable increased interoperability for the companies’ virtualization platforms. Each company will join the other's virtualization validation/certification program and will provide coordinated technical support for their mutual server virtualization customers. The reciprocal validations will allow customers to deploy heterogeneous, virtualized Red Hat and Microsoft sol | Feb 16 16:28 |
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| schestowitz | utions with confidence." | Feb 16 16:28 |
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| schestowitz | A journalist has just asked me for comment. | Feb 16 16:29 |
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| schestowitz | "These agreements do not require the sharing of IP. Therefore, the agreements do not include any patent or open source licensing rights, and additionally contain no financial clauses, other than industry-standard certification/validation testing fees." Red Hat did all right then. | Feb 16 16:29 |
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| schestowitz | It's funny how all E-mails over here are being logged. It's a surveillance society in the UK. Evey E-mail I send goes into the govt's DB for example, unless I PGP-encrypt it, in which case I get /some/ privacy | Feb 16 16:31 |
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| schestowitz | Turns out that even Internet Cafes are under a close watch. A friend send me this: | Feb 16 16:31 |
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| schestowitz | "ps: I got chatting with the new staff in 'Swirl' he showed me the system. He can remotely view what's on my screen and save snapshots (using hook.dll). This is a huge violation of privacy and what would happen if they hired a crook or someone on low pay that are supplementing their income." | Feb 16 16:31 |
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| schestowitz | "This Cafeagent software is nothing more than spyware. Why do they need to read your screen just to audit a ticket ? I highly suspect it's a front for some security outfit. In this day and age, anyone selling security software is most certainly working for the spooks." | Feb 16 16:31 |
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| schestowitz | "I'd like to be able to kill this in memory, but I don't have Windows at home. Is there a hack for giving standard user access to the process list, and kill a process. At the moment it's owned by 'system'. Why don't you download it install it and take a look at it. Take a close look at that hook.dll file. A hackers dream, and it's on every computer here." | Feb 16 16:31 |
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| schestowitz | Red Hat and MS...... http://www.mcsweeneys.net/books/everythi... | Feb 16 16:33 |
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| schestowitz | All your videoZ are belong to teh google: http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2009/02/16/... | Feb 16 16:38 |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/glynmoody/statu... "Microsoft blinks first on interoperability with Red Hat - http://is.gd/jHlW. Nothing Novell-ish here." | Feb 16 16:40 |
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| schestowitz | The way the news about Red Hat came was shocking, but it's not as shocking as the headline/subject line sort of suggested :-) (my heart almost missed a beat!). I'll write about this now.... | Feb 16 16:51 |
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| amarsh04 | it's on groklaw.net also schestowitz | Feb 16 16:54 |
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| schestowitz | Cool, let me see.. | Feb 16 17:08 |
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| schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com/2009/02/16/red-hat... | Feb 16 17:08 |
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| schestowitz | BN quoted here: http://blogs.computerworld.com/red_hat_mic... | Feb 16 17:22 |
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| schestowitz | http://edition.cnn.com/2009/TECH/02/16/cellph... "Studies suggest that talking on a hands-free cell phone while driving is just as dangerous as a handheld one." | Feb 16 17:41 |
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| schestowitz | Vatican buries the hatchet with Charles Darwin < http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comme... > | Feb 16 17:42 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.stimuluswatch.org/ "Stimulus" or "Bailout" are Orwellian terms for "public looting". | Feb 16 17:44 |
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| schestowitz | Bill Introduced In Pennsylvania To Ban All Portable Gadgets In School < http://techdirt.com/articles/2009021... > | Feb 16 17:48 |
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| amarsh04 | like pens, pencils and books? (-: | Feb 16 18:03 |
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| schestowitz | Yes, it's a good ongoing debate. Some kids just read the paper at the lectures or they simply don't pay attention. I used to fall asleep at almost every other lecture. | Feb 16 18:05 |
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| schestowitz | FSDaily seems to be grinding to a halt because not many people vote up stories. | Feb 16 18:17 |
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| trmanco | hello again | Feb 16 18:22 |
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| trmanco | I've read that Red Hat made a deal with MS | Feb 16 18:22 |
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| trmanco | :( | Feb 16 18:22 |
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| trmanco | sort of | Feb 16 18:22 |
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| schestowitz | trmanco: what did you read? | Feb 16 18:24 |
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| trmanco | Asay | Feb 16 18:25 |
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| trmanco | Microsoft, Red Hat team up on patent-free interoperability: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-10164907-... | Feb 16 18:26 |
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| schestowitz | The comments in Digg were not correct | Feb 16 18:26 |
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| schestowitz | I have about 10 more articles to post about it. | Feb 16 18:27 |
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| schestowitz | Jose hates it. http://boycottnovell.com/2009/02/16/red-hat-mi... | Feb 16 18:29 |
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| trmanco | he is right | Feb 16 18:30 |
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| tcpsyn | Morning. | Feb 16 18:30 |
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| trmanco | we better prepare for boycottredhad | Feb 16 18:30 |
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| schestowitz | I think Shane has it, but you're taking this too far | Feb 16 18:31 |
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| schestowitz | Other sites like Groklaw have endorsed the deal too | Feb 16 18:31 |
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| schestowitz | So do I. ComputerWorld also quoted me on it. I don't give it the thumbs-up, I just say it could be a lot worse. | Feb 16 18:32 |
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| schestowitz | tcpsyn: hi | Feb 16 18:32 |
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| tcpsyn | trmanco, why boycott redhat? | Feb 16 18:33 |
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| trmanco | tcpsyn, http://boycottnovell.com/2009/02/16/red-hat-... | Feb 16 18:33 |
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| trmanco | scroll up | Feb 16 18:34 |
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| tcpsyn | trmanco, I just came in, I got nothing to scroll | Feb 16 18:34 |
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| schestowitz | _doug: what do you think about RHAT/MS? | Feb 16 18:34 |
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| schestowitz | *RHT | Feb 16 18:34 |
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| trmanco | tcpsyn, scroll up on the article, I forgot to remove the comment part on th link :-P | Feb 16 18:35 |
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| schestowitz | tcpsyn: Red Hat didn't do something too bad. trmanco would need to convince us. | Feb 16 18:35 |
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| MinceR | as long as no money is exchanged and there's nothing else in the deal but support, i think it's ok | Feb 16 18:35 |
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| trmanco | I don't trust MS | Feb 16 18:36 |
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| schestowitz | One could argue that Red Hat might see some code (probably not, but Novell does this), in which case there's the SCO argument | Feb 16 18:36 |
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| MinceR | hopefully they won't | Feb 16 18:36 |
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| schestowitz | trmanco: me neither, so let's find the catch | Feb 16 18:36 |
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| schestowitz | http://blogs.computerworld.com/red_... http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?sto... | Feb 16 18:36 |
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| trmanco | schestowitz, we should wait and see what happens | Feb 16 18:37 |
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| schestowitz | http://weblog.infoworld.com/openresour... http://www.businessreviewonline.com/os/archive... | Feb 16 18:37 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.businessreviewonline.com/os/ar... http://port25.technet.com/archive/2009/02/16/m... | Feb 16 18:37 |
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| schestowitz | Like I said in Digg, this shows that Microsoft is scared of being left out.. even out of the VM. Can you blame them? | Feb 16 18:38 |
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| schestowitz | It was written somewhere that MS customers demanded it | Feb 16 18:38 |
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| _doug | hi there .. RHAT/MS .. no patent deal .. ? | Feb 16 18:38 |
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| schestowitz | SJVN: "Yes, you read that right. Microsoft is saying that they made this deal because of Microsoft customer demand to run Red Hat Linux." | Feb 16 18:38 |
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| schestowitz | “Forty percent of servers run Windows, 60 percent run Linux...” --Steve Ballmer (September 2008) | Feb 16 18:38 |
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| schestowitz | _doug: no patents, just nooperability | Feb 16 18:39 |
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| _doug | Microsoft un-interoperability .. | Feb 16 18:39 |
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| trmanco | hey cool: Your friend, Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols, has also added you to their list of friends. You are now mutual friends! | Feb 16 18:41 |
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| trmanco | :) | Feb 16 18:41 |
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| _doug | New Malware 'Virux' Spreading Rampant in US .. | Feb 16 18:42 |
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| schestowitz | Where? | Feb 16 18:42 |
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| _doug | http://www.infopackets.com/news/security/2009/200902... | Feb 16 18:42 |
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| schestowitz | Sounds like a Linux distro name | Feb 16 18:42 |
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| trmanco | lol | Feb 16 18:43 |
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| schestowitz | Those crackers give a bad name to Linux | Feb 16 18:43 |
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| schestowitz | "mom, do you want LINUX? With... with MONO?" Mother: Wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!! | Feb 16 18:43 |
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| trmanco | Mnoo | Feb 16 18:44 |
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| _doug | Can I run Hyper-V under RH under vm ? | Feb 16 18:44 |
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| schestowitz | It's proprietary | Feb 16 18:45 |
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| schestowitz | Windows only. | Feb 16 18:45 |
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| schestowitz | MS wants more interop......... to WINDOWS. | Feb 16 18:45 |
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| schestowitz | Compatible /TO/ Windows | Feb 16 18:46 |
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| schestowitz | Interoperable /to/ Windows | Feb 16 18:46 |
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| schestowitz | WInteroperability.. | Feb 16 18:46 |
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| _doug | http://www.hotwirepr.com/ Novell does a Waggner ... | Feb 16 18:53 |
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| schestowitz | Yes | Feb 16 18:55 |
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| schestowitz | Not only this one.. | Feb 16 18:55 |
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| schestowitz | They have another in Yorkshire | Feb 16 18:55 |
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| schestowitz | You know, in Comes you can see Waggner in early days | Feb 16 18:55 |
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| schestowitz | Just a few of them before Microsoft inflated them as shills to run under a different banner. Spun off as a pressure group | Feb 16 18:56 |
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| _doug | Wash. Post reviews Asus Desktop PC .. | Feb 16 18:59 |
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| _doug | http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/... | Feb 16 18:59 |
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| schestowitz | ASUS is a headless chicken. It went to bed with Microsoft. | Feb 16 18:59 |
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| _doug | :)] | Feb 16 19:00 |
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| schestowitz | Is this newsworthy at all: http://www.techflash.com/microsoft/Microsoft_shifts... | Feb 16 19:03 |
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| _doug | only to MS .. | Feb 16 19:03 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft exec denies knowledge of My Phone rhyming with iPhone < http://www.techflash.com/microsoft/Microsoft_e... > MyIPhone | Feb 16 19:03 |
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| schestowitz | Rememeber Palm case? | Feb 16 19:04 |
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| schestowitz | And Open Office XML [sic] | Feb 16 19:04 |
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| _doug | a lot of phone companies are going with non-MS systems .. | Feb 16 19:04 |
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| schestowitz | Danger - BSD... | Feb 16 19:04 |
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| _doug | MiPHONE .. :) | Feb 16 19:05 |
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| schestowitz | They lose the mobile battle | Feb 16 19:05 |
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| schestowitz | So they move execs there and spend $100,000,000 on a BSD-based product (IIRC) | Feb 16 19:06 |
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| _doug | the problem with MS is that they try and control the entire market, instead of providing the core systems and letting the market run with it .. | Feb 16 19:09 |
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| _doug | It's the borg mentality .. | Feb 16 19:09 |
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| MinceR | that's just one of the problems | Feb 16 19:09 |
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| MinceR | another is that they're unwilling or unable to provide products of usable quality | Feb 16 19:10 |
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| _doug | so they are basically saying to the mobile and telecom companies, give us control of your entire business and we'll let you pay us for licenses .. | Feb 16 19:10 |
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| MinceR | so they have to rely on tricks instead of letting the market choose | Feb 16 19:10 |
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| MinceR | ...and they'll give the mobile/telecom companies a system that fails at basic PIM tasks. | Feb 16 19:11 |
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| MinceR | like handling DST and time zones. | Feb 16 19:11 |
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| schestowitz | It's hard | Feb 16 19:13 |
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| schestowitz | Zune can't do it even.. | Feb 16 19:13 |
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| MinceR | though iirc not even Palm OS 5 could handle time zones... | Feb 16 19:14 |
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| schestowitz | _doug: it's not a MS problem, it's just the bad rules by which markets were built about 100 years ago (just over) and lack of regulation. Look at Wal-Mart with TVs and Tesco with insurance. How long before you buy cars and houses in Sainsbury's? | Feb 16 19:15 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: Palm is not an OS, it's memorabilia :-) | Feb 16 19:16 |
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| MinceR | oh, and reliable alarms -- you won't get those with windows mobile. | Feb 16 19:16 |
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| MinceR | (at least not across reboots.) | Feb 16 19:17 |
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| _doug | how long before we do our banking and health care in Tescos .. | Feb 16 19:17 |
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| schestowitz | "Wow, Red Hat has definitely shown some keen ability here. They have demonstrated that it is entirely possible to work with Microsoft, without giving in to their legally questionable IP blackmail. Novell could really learn a thing or two about how to respect your customers and work with other big companies at the same time." | Feb 16 19:18 |
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| schestowitz | Wal-martesco -- the Fidel Castro of capitalism. | Feb 16 19:19 |
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| _doug | go on you commie :) | Feb 16 19:19 |
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| _doug | MS wants a level playing field, as long as they own the patent property rights on grass .. | Feb 16 19:21 |
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| _doug | multi-simulator released under the GPL .. | Feb 16 19:22 |
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| _doug | http://www.rigsofrods.com/ | Feb 16 19:22 |
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| schestowitz | ms flight sim dies. | Feb 16 19:23 |
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| _doug | contracting market ... | Feb 16 19:23 |
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| _doug | http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?... | Feb 16 19:26 |
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| _doug | http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=RHT#ch... | Feb 16 19:27 |
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| _doug | http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=... | Feb 16 19:27 |
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| schestowitz | Novell will be bought by..... | Feb 16 19:27 |
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| _doug | yea .. eventually ... but not yes .. don't want to provike Nellie :) | Feb 16 19:28 |
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| _doug | http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=NWS#ch... | Feb 16 19:28 |
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| schestowitz | "52wk Range:2.49 - 7.59" | Feb 16 19:28 |
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| schestowitz | The results are coming soon and layoffs too | Feb 16 19:28 |
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| schestowitz | It could fall below $3 | Feb 16 19:29 |
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| schestowitz | http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=NWS#c... | Feb 16 19:30 |
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| schestowitz | Stupid Flash allow no direct linking. | Feb 16 19:30 |
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| Goblin | Hi Roy! | Feb 16 19:30 |
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| _doug | ? | Feb 16 19:30 |
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| schestowitz | Hey | Feb 16 19:30 |
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| schestowitz | _doug: I tried linking to all-time | Feb 16 19:31 |
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| Goblin | Am I the only one NOT happy about the Red Hat deal? | Feb 16 19:31 |
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| schestowitz | No. | Feb 16 19:31 |
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| schestowitz | I'm gonna do another post | Feb 16 19:31 |
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| Goblin | I thinking this..... | Feb 16 19:31 |
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| Goblin | Novells deal was so crippling that the deal with Red Hat will further serve to damage an already tainted Novell | Feb 16 19:32 |
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| schestowitz | I'l put a nice video of Ballme's Red Hat racketeering.. bring back memories to them. | Feb 16 19:32 |
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| Goblin | then MS can move in and aquire Novell when they are crippled. | Feb 16 19:32 |
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| _doug | The Red Hat deal is good publicity, for RH and their hobbiest patent violating OS .. | Feb 16 19:32 |
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| _doug | :) | Feb 16 19:32 |
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| schestowitz | I look at it like this | Feb 16 19:32 |
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| Goblin | Didnt we see this same type of thing with OS/2? | Feb 16 19:32 |
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| schestowitz | wrt to second post | Feb 16 19:32 |
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| schestowitz | Dead is not horrible | Feb 16 19:32 |
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| schestowitz | But it's not smart, either | Feb 16 19:33 |
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| _doug | Apart from RH and Novell who elses are the major OSS players ? | Feb 16 19:33 |
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| Goblin | Canonical | Feb 16 19:33 |
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| _doug | Dell should buy Novell and start selling a total solution .. | Feb 16 19:33 |
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| MinceR | SourceForge, Inc.? | Feb 16 19:33 |
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| Goblin | but I think the biggest threat to MS comes not from one distro in particular but Wine. | Feb 16 19:33 |
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| MinceR | IBM? | Feb 16 19:33 |
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| _doug | A multimedia offering with subscription services, movies, games, ecommerce .. | Feb 16 19:34 |
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| _doug | I mean they alread have the manufacturing and distribution chain .. | Feb 16 19:34 |
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| _doug | what do you think, benJIman ? | Feb 16 19:34 |
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| Goblin | afterall its a major selling point for Windows to claim that the software people run will only do so through Windows....Wine changes that... | Feb 16 19:34 |
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| _doug | IBM got out of the way of the SCO lawsuit .. | Feb 16 19:35 |
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| Goblin | and doug...I believe the pay per use patent will be pimped in the MS stores with discounted hardware (similar to the way mobilephone stores operate) | Feb 16 19:35 |
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| _doug | MAybe a Lenovo/Novell merger ? | Feb 16 19:36 |
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| _doug | Yahoo/Novell ? | Feb 16 19:36 |
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| Goblin | If Novell hadnt jumped into bed with MS, I believe they would now be where Canonical is. | Feb 16 19:37 |
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| _doug | Lenovo/Yahoo/Novell .. most business eventually settle on a handfull of players. Take a look at the car industry .. | Feb 16 19:37 |
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| schestowitz | BBC acqured by MS | Feb 16 19:37 |
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| Goblin | lol | Feb 16 19:37 |
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| _doug | I see the iPlayer being privatized, maybe by Murdock .. | Feb 16 19:38 |
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| Goblin | maybe they could cast Ballmer for the next Dr Who | Feb 16 19:38 |
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| MinceR | lol | Feb 16 19:38 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.paidcontent.co.uk/entry/419-indust... http://opendotdotdot.blogspot.com/2009/02/bb... | Feb 16 19:38 |
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| MinceR | nuking the fridge? | Feb 16 19:38 |
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| Goblin | or he could be the new "Master" and travel through time shilling Vista. | Feb 16 19:38 |
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| _doug | http://www.bbc.co.uk/norfolk/content/images... | Feb 16 19:39 |
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| Goblin | I thought Canonical and the BBC were working together on a project? | Feb 16 19:39 |
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| schestowitz | Goblin: agreed re: Canonica, Novell | Feb 16 19:39 |
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| _doug | Times are sure tough .. | Feb 16 19:40 |
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| _doug | http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?... | Feb 16 19:40 |
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| Goblin | Just been messing around with NASM. Its been a while since I hit the cold pizza and assembly... | Feb 16 19:41 |
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| _doug | Canonical got the iPlayer working on Linux .. | Feb 16 19:41 |
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| _doug | http://ubuntuland.nireblog.com/post/2008/11/0... | Feb 16 19:41 |
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| schestowitz | Heck, I'll just do another RHEL post right now | Feb 16 19:42 |
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| schestowitz | :-) | Feb 16 19:42 |
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| trmanco | oh crap | Feb 16 19:42 |
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| trmanco | not again | Feb 16 19:43 |
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| trmanco | "Unable to retrieve MSN Address Book" | Feb 16 19:43 |
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| trmanco | it is back online again | Feb 16 19:47 |
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| trmanco | maybe it got hit by a worm, overloaded the CPU and continuous disk thrashing did this (server) :-P | Feb 16 19:48 |
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| Goblin | Great piece of news...if you didnt know.... | Feb 16 19:49 |
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| Goblin | remember the godawful and anooying Clippy character from MS Word? | Feb 16 19:50 |
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| Goblin | hes back: | Feb 16 19:50 |
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| Goblin | http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/02/13/... | Feb 16 19:50 |
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| mib_ziff24 | wtf wat is this about here | Feb 16 19:50 |
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| Goblin | ? | Feb 16 19:51 |
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| trmanco | LOL | Feb 16 19:52 |
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| Goblin | I dont know about anyone else, but Clippy is certainly the image to beat fashionable Apple products with. | Feb 16 19:53 |
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| MinceR | http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/28/apple... | Feb 16 19:53 |
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| Goblin | Hes just so "with it" | Feb 16 19:53 |
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| MinceR | so much about apple's FUD | Feb 16 19:54 |
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| MinceR | also, the "whoever wins... we lose" tagline is quite fitting | Feb 16 19:54 |
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| Goblin | I think these type of issues are great. They highlight the complete impotence of patents and IMO will ultimately lead to their abolishment. (IMO) | Feb 16 19:55 |
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| _doug | gtg .. | Feb 16 19:55 |
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| Goblin | cya | Feb 16 19:56 |
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| schestowitz | OK | Feb 16 20:06 |
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| schestowitz | Done, proofreading now :0) | Feb 16 20:06 |
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| Goblin | having a conversation with the user "Windows7center" on Twitter. | Feb 16 20:07 |
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| schestowitz | trmanco: MS servers have been down a lot recently. | Feb 16 20:07 |
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| schestowitz | Goblin, trmanco yes, it's funny when people use MIB to just come in, curse, then sod off. | Feb 16 20:08 |
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| schestowitz | mib_eh1thj: it's about lawyers, not about us engineers. The propaganda is sourced from them when they liaised with monopolies and loners like nathanm | Feb 16 20:09 |
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| Goblin | Roy, does the name Michael Dees mean anything to you (or anyone here) | Feb 16 20:09 |
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| trmanco | I wish IRC had killfile support | Feb 16 20:09 |
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| Goblin | he posts as Nknow on MSwatch, and he follows Andre Da Costa on Twitter. | Feb 16 20:10 |
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| schestowitz | trmanco: who for? | Feb 16 20:12 |
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| schestowitz | who is dees? | Feb 16 20:12 |
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| trmanco | to filter out some mibs | Feb 16 20:12 |
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| trmanco | http://www.omnia-online.org/index0.asp | Feb 16 20:12 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0214416/ | Feb 16 20:12 |
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| Goblin | its ok, just wondering if you had come across the name before... | Feb 16 20:13 |
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| Goblin | Ive a little portfolio on his "activities" | Feb 16 20:13 |
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| schestowitz | ""The Simpsons" .... 'New York, New York' singer (2 episodes, 1997-2006)" | Feb 16 20:13 |
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| schestowitz | Goblin: I haven't, no.. | Feb 16 20:13 |
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| Goblin | np | Feb 16 20:13 |
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| schestowitz | i have an update coming | Feb 16 21:10 |
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| schestowitz | another one coming... Here, with video too: http://boycottnovell.com/2009/02/16/w... | Feb 16 21:11 |
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| schestowitz | Folowup in a way to http://boycottnovell.com/2009/02/16/red-hat-... | Feb 16 21:11 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft admit Windows Mobile stinks and imitates Palm OS? Newton? Psion.. Blackberry? http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/microsoft/ar... | Feb 16 21:14 |
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| schestowitz | Look ma! No "Start" menu | Feb 16 21:14 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/02/16/netb... (Netbooks killing off sickly Windows PC sales) .. Mac site don't like uttering the L word.... | Feb 16 21:22 |
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| trmanco | Poll Follow Up: What is Your Preferredooks_killing_off_sickly_windows_pc_sales.html Browser?: http://davidwalsh.name/preferred-browser-fu | Feb 16 21:45 |
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| trmanco | por IE | Feb 16 21:45 |
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| trmanco | poor* | Feb 16 21:46 |
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| schestowitz | Not really poor. IE is a bastard that deliberately broke parts of the Web. | Feb 16 21:49 |
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| trmanco | it is still breaking the web | Feb 16 21:50 |
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| schestowitz | It's another Zune: ""It's a mouthful to say, 'You want a Windows Mobile phone?'" Ballmer said when asked about the decision to once again re-brand the OS, which has over the years been known as Windows CE and Pocket PC." http://www.pcworld.com/article/159608/microsoft_p... | Feb 16 21:52 |
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| schestowitz | They're not even sure how to combine Danger, Zune, WM, Vista... what a total mess of disparate sw. With Linux, you have pertinent packages to built an OS with... Microsoft is still messing about with dough, not lego bricks. | Feb 16 21:53 |
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| schestowitz | *build | Feb 16 21:53 |
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| MinceR | afaik they've found the right way for danger | Feb 16 21:53 |
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| MinceR | they're moving to netbsd there :> | Feb 16 21:53 |
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| schestowitz | Will they still get code? | Feb 16 21:54 |
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| schestowitz | Re: Red Hat deal: | Feb 16 21:54 |
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| schestowitz | "regarding the patent FUD.. I wonder if it might be just Steve Ballmer (and maybe select few others) that are doing it because they're just kinda stuck in the old ages.. and looking at Microsoft it's a pretty huge group of people with complex contractual relationships between them.. one man saying something doesn't necessarily imply actual future action.." | Feb 16 21:54 |
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| schestowitz | "though that's kinda long topic.. I'm reminded of that because we here, a bunch of us being voluntaryists and anarcho-capitalists, see government for example, as less than an "entity", as just a group of people" | Feb 16 21:54 |
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| schestowitz | "so a president saying something doesn't necessarily equal to a "government" saying something" | Feb 16 21:54 |
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| schestowitz | "so same could be said of corporations" | Feb 16 21:54 |
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| schestowitz | "maybe the criticism should sometimes zero in more specifically at particular individuals making the statement rather than the whole organization, that's what I mean" | Feb 16 21:54 |
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| schestowitz | "Target Ballmer, not MS" | Feb 16 21:54 |
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| schestowitz | "Also one thing that crossed my mind a while ago is that this recession/depression could make it all the more expensive to try petty lawsuits, especially in an area as volatile as software patents" | Feb 16 21:54 |
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| schestowitz | "making it far more likely for any threat to be an empty one" | Feb 16 21:54 |
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| MinceR | i'd target both | Feb 16 21:55 |
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| MinceR | both have to die | Feb 16 21:55 |
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| schestowitz | I included a video of Ballmer threatening Red Hat and its customers right here: http://boycottnovell.com/2009/02/16/w... (end of 2007). | Feb 16 21:55 |
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| schestowitz | But you know what they say... the New Microsoff(R). Remember the OOXML corruptions? Their PR machine is still fooling the masses, thanks to lackey journos | Feb 16 21:56 |
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| MinceR | well, doing any kind of business with m$ is folly | Feb 16 21:57 |
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| MinceR | the only choice they leave to the rest of the world is utterly destroying m$. | Feb 16 21:58 |
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| schestowitz | Turns out we could speed up BN.. "There seem to be some bad network problems today, but not specific to, but affecting your site. While I am waiting for the problems to blow over, I notice that with the reduced speed the rendering of BoycottNovell is very slow, in part due to the pictures. e.g <img src="/boycottnovell.banner.468x60.png" alt="Boycott Novell" />" | Feb 16 22:02 |
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| schestowitz | "Notice that all your image elements could use proper HEIGHT and WIDTH attributes. e.g. <img src="/boycottnovell.banner.468x60.png"width="468" height="60" alt="Boycott Novell" />" | Feb 16 22:02 |
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| schestowitz | "The attributes must match the actual dimensions of the image to realize the full potential. If you have all of your pictures done this way, you will see a very, very large increase in the subjective speed the pages become available to the end user." | Feb 16 22:02 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.thecaq.org/newsroom/pdfs/200... "[C]hanging financial accounting standards because of valuation challenges is not the way to solve regulatory capital problems. Retreating from fair value in response to political pressure would raise suspicions that the rules were changed in order to falsely inflate asset values. We must avoid a further crisis of investor confidence in our government an | Feb 16 22:10 |
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| schestowitz | d the regulatory bodies overseeing those institutions." | Feb 16 22:10 |
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| schestowitz | Oh boy... British, French nuclear submarines collide in Atlantic < http://www.itwire.com/content/vie... > | Feb 16 22:15 |
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| schestowitz | "The HMS Vanguard, classified as S28, is a uranium-fueled pressurized water reactor submarine within the British Royal Navy. It contains nuclear missiles of the class called Trident ballistic missile." | Feb 16 22:15 |
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| schestowitz | Nuclear subs collide in Atlantic < http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7892294.stm >. I think the British submarine runs Windows. Maybe it got some malware on the sonar system :-S | Feb 16 22:16 |
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| PetoKraus | the sonar system was, obviously, turned off | Feb 16 22:17 |
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| PetoKraus | they are SSBN's | Feb 16 22:17 |
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| PetoKraus | anyway | Feb 16 22:18 |
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| *PetoKraus np: Genesis - Firth Of Fifth (Selling England By The Pound) | Feb 16 22:18 |
| PetoKraus | good night ;) | Feb 16 22:18 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.itwire.com/content/view/23279/1075/ "People of central Texas reported Sunday morning, February 15, 2009, that they saw 'fireballs' streaking across their local skies. Many onlookers thought it was debris from two communications satellites that collided in space earlier in the week. However, officials with the U.S. Air Force Space Command said No." | Feb 16 22:18 |
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| *MinceR is listening to: Machinae Supremacy - Redeemer (Retail Edition) - Elite | Feb 16 22:22 |
| *schestowitz has been listening to the same track for 2 hours | Feb 16 22:23 |
| schestowitz | < http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2009/02/16/y... > Yahoo Shuts Down One of Three Bookmarking Services "We are streamlining our bookmark services. As part of this effort Yahoo! will be shutting down MyWeb on March 18, 2009 and moving users to Yahoo! Bookmarks. " | Feb 16 22:25 |
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| schestowitz | Don't worry, buddy, put yo' links on the 'cloud' :-) | Feb 16 22:25 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2009/02/16/is... "At the time of this writing, Sean's Top Ten list has 629 Diggs, with 165 comments. A number of those comments express concern about digging the story for fear of digging their own graves." | Feb 16 22:26 |
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| schestowitz | I used to be ranked 17th in the whole of Digg. | Feb 16 22:26 |
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| schestowitz | http://digg.com/linux_unix/Red_Hat_Microsoft... | Feb 16 22:27 |
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| *mib_eh1thj (i=18d8f3d5@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c44fc6b0de83fcc9) has joined #boycottnovell | Feb 16 22:32 |
| *mib_eh1thj has quit (Client Quit) | Feb 16 22:32 |
| schestowitz | http://community.zdnet.co.uk/blog/0,100000056... | Feb 16 22:33 |
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| schestowitz | From ComputerWorld: "Just look at MS history!! It's there, google around four five minutes and look at old and present anti-trust cases and other court cases. They even have an internal MS term called anti-linux task force..for gods sake." hehe. They read BN (Wal-Mart) | Feb 16 22:37 |
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| trmanco | old -> http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/99/0... | Feb 16 22:43 |
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| trmanco | but why is it running MS/IIS .NET crap? | Feb 16 22:43 |
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| trmanco | now | Feb 16 22:44 |
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| schestowitz | Gordon BroMS | Feb 16 22:46 |
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| schestowitz | A friend of mine from the gym met his come months ago... said he smelt like a toilet and has a maid or something just combing his hair in the hotel room all day. | Feb 16 22:47 |
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| schestowitz | *some | Feb 16 22:47 |
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| schestowitz | De Menezes family to sue as police escape charges < http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/feb/14/jean-... > | Feb 16 23:02 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.prwatch.org/node/8213 "Former Undersecretary of State for Public Diplomacy James Glassman -- who previously hosted the "journo-lobbying" site Tech Central Station -- also supported what he called "Public Diplomacy 2.0." " | Feb 16 23:06 |
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| schestowitz | AAI: "Summary of Translation of Intel Decision by Korea Fair Trade Commission" < http://www.antitrustinstitute.org/Arch... > | Feb 16 23:21 |
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| schestowitz | "Dell’s Inspiron Mini 9 Netbooks running Windows XP and Ubuntu are on sale. But US newspaper advertisements from Dell and Best Buy show Dell’s Windows XP netbooks to be a far better bargain than Dell netbooks with Ubuntu Linux. Here are the details." http://www.workswithu.com/2009/02/16/dell-... | Feb 16 23:41 |
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