04.05.09
IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: April 4th, 2009 – Part 3
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| MinceR | balzac: whatever gets you off. | Apr 04 21:37 |
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| balzac | only a fake shrink can check my state of mind | Apr 04 21:38 |
| balzac | MinceR: nope. no getting off involved in this man. | Apr 04 21:38 |
| balzac | why do you sexualize things? | Apr 04 21:38 |
| MinceR | oh, now i’m the one who sexualizes things | Apr 04 21:38 |
| MinceR | do you even remember what you’ve written a few hours ago? | Apr 04 21:39 |
| balzac | that was about real strippers, not sexual metaphors applied to non-sexual matters | Apr 04 21:39 |
| schestowitz | http://topix.cachefly.net/p… What is the name of this visual effect and how is it achieved in the GIMP? | Apr 04 21:39 |
| balzac | MinceR: if you find me entertaining, you should send me money via paypal | Apr 04 21:39 |
| balzac | or if you’ve found my ideas helpful, I could use the money | Apr 04 21:40 |
| MinceR | balzac: i find you annoying | Apr 04 21:40 |
| balzac | so, no donation? | Apr 04 21:40 |
| MinceR | balzac: i find stupidity difficult to tolerate in general. | Apr 04 21:40 |
| schestowitz | Liver | Apr 04 21:40 |
| MinceR | nope. | Apr 04 21:40 |
| schestowitz | Just one, c’mon | Apr 04 21:41 |
| schestowitz | Donate a liver | Apr 04 21:41 |
| balzac | well, I’m going to need to focus a bit more on making money, since I won’t be getting any donations from you for my time | Apr 04 21:41 |
| MinceR | balzac: go to the street and rob some people, we’ll wait. | Apr 04 21:41 |
| balzac | If the right candidate were walking past and I knew I could get away with it, perhaps I would. | Apr 04 21:42 |
| balzac | but I would’nt want to rob anyone who hadn’t robbed me, so I would rob a bailed-out investment banker executive. | Apr 04 21:43 |
| balzac | non-violently of course. | Apr 04 21:43 |
| schestowitz | They prey on ignorance | Apr 04 21:46 |
| schestowitz | They /still/ loot, after they had looted and lead to the current, ongoing collapse | Apr 04 21:46 |
| schestowitz | *led | Apr 04 21:47 |
| balzac | gamblers who win always rely on the ignorance of gamblers who lose | Apr 04 21:47 |
| balzac | gambling is matching wits against others to assess risk and bet against each other | Apr 04 21:47 |
| balzac | but it really was terrible that the corporate media facilitated such a huge deception regarding the rules of the game | Apr 04 21:48 |
| balzac | and the risks involved | Apr 04 21:48 |
| schestowitz | Wait a second… isn’t this April Fool’s? http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2009/04/f… | Apr 04 21:48 |
| schestowitz | balzac: they still facilitate it | Apr 04 21:49 |
| schestowitz | They call it “credit *CRUNCH*”. Ha! | Apr 04 21:49 |
| schestowitz | Like saying “Iraq conflict” | Apr 04 21:49 |
| schestowitz | Or “Congo misfortunes” | Apr 04 21:50 |
| schestowitz | “punishment camps” | Apr 04 21:50 |
| schestowitz | “Bush ‘unpopular’” | Apr 04 21:50 |
| balzac | well, it’s not going to end any time soon | Apr 04 21:50 |
| schestowitz | “Oj blew up…” | Apr 04 21:50 |
| schestowitz | balzac: Great Depression took like 15 years to phase out | Apr 04 21:51 |
| schestowitz | That too was gradual. | Apr 04 21:51 |
| schestowitz | And I don’t think debt was as bad at the time | Apr 04 21:51 |
| schestowitz | Either way power shifted from Europe to the US | Apr 04 21:51 |
| schestowitz | At least centre of power | Apr 04 21:51 |
| DaemonFC | the Great Depression was likewise engineered by the banks | Apr 04 21:51 |
| schestowitz | Now it’ll be China most likely.. when the whole thing’s over | Apr 04 21:51 |
| DaemonFC | to steal wealth from peopel | Apr 04 21:51 |
| DaemonFC | *people | Apr 04 21:51 |
| DaemonFC | The Federal Reserve Act was law written by the banks and pushed through Congress with death threats and bribes | Apr 04 21:52 |
| schestowitz | Watch the photo of Obama bowing to the Saudi Kind | Apr 04 21:52 |
| schestowitz | *King | Apr 04 21:52 |
| schestowitz | Watch the other guys around | Apr 04 21:52 |
| schestowitz | Obama might have to bow to them too one day, if not his successor/s | Apr 04 21:52 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Watch Zeitgeist | Apr 04 21:53 |
| schestowitz | I haven’t | Apr 04 21:53 |
| DaemonFC | it explains religion and government pretty well, I think | Apr 04 21:53 |
| schestowitz | Not enough Amero, amigo | Apr 04 21:53 |
| DaemonFC | Christianity is a fraud and a tool used by the government to suppress the people | Apr 04 21:53 |
| DaemonFC | and has been effectively employed by various regimes since the Roman Empire | Apr 04 21:54 |
| schestowitz | T-Mobile Germany Banning Skype for iPhone < http://www.pcworld.com/article/1… > | Apr 04 21:54 |
| schestowitz | That can be generaised to many faiths | Apr 04 21:54 |
| schestowitz | Most countries embrace a religion | Apr 04 21:55 |
| schestowitz | It’s a crowd-control ctool | Apr 04 21:55 |
| schestowitz | Promise heaven, then give s* | Apr 04 21:55 |
| DaemonFC | Christianity is the religion of choice backed by most corrupt western governments | Apr 04 21:55 |
| schestowitz | It’s nothing to with with one faith | Apr 04 21:55 |
| Balrog_ | DaemonFC: you call Bush’s religion ‘Christianity’? I don’t | Apr 04 21:55 |
| schestowitz | Going thousands of years back, superstition existed too. | Apr 04 21:55 |
| DaemonFC | I rather like Communism better, at least they just tell you to fall in place or they’ll shoot you | Apr 04 21:55 |
| Balrog_ | it’s a false christianity, that’s for sure | Apr 04 21:56 |
| DaemonFC | no bogeymen like God involved | Apr 04 21:56 |
| schestowitz | Balrog: Bush says he speaks to God | Apr 04 21:56 |
| MinceR | i think it’s widely known as “christianity” | Apr 04 21:56 |
| DaemonFC | so does my grandmother | Apr 04 21:56 |
| schestowitz | This is a man with a code to ‘the’ buttom. | Apr 04 21:56 |
| DaemonFC | I think it’s the medication talking | Apr 04 21:56 |
| DaemonFC |  |
Apr 04 21:56 |
| schestowitz | *button | Apr 04 21:56 |
| DaemonFC | Bush doesn’t have that now  |
Apr 04 21:57 |
| DaemonFC | and he’s not a Christian | Apr 04 21:57 |
| DaemonFC | he said he was to control the people that believe the shit | Apr 04 21:58 |
| DaemonFC | Bush isn’t crazy, nor is he stupid | Apr 04 21:58 |
| MinceR | how is “christianity” defined? | Apr 04 21:58 |
| DaemonFC | he was put there for a purpose | Apr 04 21:58 |
| DaemonFC | to do the bidding of the Federal Reserve | Apr 04 21:58 |
| DaemonFC | the real government | Apr 04 21:58 |
| schestowitz | OIN: TomTom settlement is no win for Microsoft, expect challenge < http://blogs.zdnet.com/open… > | Apr 04 21:59 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: do you think he fakes | Apr 04 21:59 |
| Balrog_ | christianity refers to the group of people who /claim/ to follow the doctrines of Christ. | Apr 04 21:59 |
| schestowitz | Some people say the Texan accent and mispronunciations are fake | Apr 04 21:59 |
| DaemonFC | No, I think he’s part of the real Christian agenda | Apr 04 21:59 |
| schestowitz | He was in Harvard, wasn’t he? | Apr 04 21:59 |
| DaemonFC | Christianity is merely a front | Apr 04 22:00 |
| schestowitz | But to sympathise with the people using the ‘ranch’ character/persona is effective | Apr 04 22:00 |
| DaemonFC | Christianity is a mechanism to get you to accept your status as a slave | Apr 04 22:00 |
| schestowitz | He also earn popularity when those ‘rich snobs’ ridicule him for bad English | Apr 04 22:00 |
| DaemonFC | “Give unto Caesar that which is Caesar’s” | Apr 04 22:01 |
| balzac | Bush used to be able to speak clearly | Apr 04 22:01 |
| DaemonFC | how much more obvious can it get? | Apr 04 22:01 |
| balzac | born in connecticut | Apr 04 22:01 |
| balzac | fake texan with a “dude ranch” | Apr 04 22:01 |
| schestowitz | Huh? | Apr 04 22:01 |
| schestowitz | Bush? | Apr 04 22:01 |
| Balrog_ | DaemonFC: there are many ways to interpret such words | Apr 04 22:01 |
| schestowitz | CT? | Apr 04 22:01 |
| balzac | yes | Apr 04 22:01 |
| schestowitz | LOL WTF | Apr 04 22:01 |
| schestowitz | Noo-ki-lar | Apr 04 22:02 |
| DaemonFC | Balrog_: I interpret Christianity as a group of idiots following a leadership composed of charlatans and frauds | Apr 04 22:02 |
| balzac | a man from connecticut put on a cowboy hat, executed 162 real Texans as governor | Apr 04 22:02 |
| Balrog_ | DaemonFC: you are over-generalizing | Apr 04 22:02 |
| Balrog_ | there is no centralized ‘Christian’ leadership | Apr 04 22:03 |
| DaemonFC | no | Apr 04 22:03 |
| DaemonFC | there’s no such thing as a good Christian | Apr 04 22:03 |
| DaemonFC | they’re either a fraud or a fool | Apr 04 22:03 |
| Balrog_ | DaemonFC: you need to read more. Especially historical stuff. | Apr 04 22:03 |
| balzac | atheist angstivism | Apr 04 22:04 |
| DaemonFC | I want no part in that | Apr 04 22:04 |
| Balrog_ | then keep spouting hate. | Apr 04 22:04 |
| Balrog_ | I don’t care. | Apr 04 22:04 |
| balzac | I’m an atheist, but I don’t speak so negatively and with such conviction | Apr 04 22:04 |
| DaemonFC | They’re all assholes, regardless of whether they’re in on the ruse | Apr 04 22:04 |
| DaemonFC | or using as an excuse to be bigots | Apr 04 22:04 |
| balzac | atheist angstivism | Apr 04 22:04 |
| *balzac issues DaemonFC a citation for angstivism | Apr 04 22:05 | |
| DaemonFC | Christians are frauds and/or deluded bigots | Apr 04 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | nothing else | Apr 04 22:05 |
| Balrog_ | and you are a hater | Apr 04 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | you’re damned right I hate them | Apr 04 22:05 |
| Balrog_ | or you talk like one | Apr 04 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | and I’d shoot all of them to decontaminate the world | Apr 04 22:05 |
| schestowitz | http://www.linuxjournal.com/conten… “I never liked the terms “upload” and “download”. I think “inload” and “outload” might be better, just because they don’t carry implications of subordination or unequal required effort.” | Apr 04 22:05 |
| Balrog_ | DaemonFC: you need to read more, seriously | Apr 04 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | What? Their propaganda, bullshit, and outright lies? | Apr 04 22:06 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: please calm down | Apr 04 22:06 |
| DaemonFC | I don’t believe in them, or their tin god | Apr 04 22:06 |
| balzac | Roy, why not ban him? | Apr 04 22:08 |
| Balrog_ | but if you’re going to attack or criticize, make sure you’re familiar with it. And you don’t want to be. | Apr 04 22:08 |
| balzac | protect the reputation of your channel | Apr 04 22:08 |
| balzac | This isn’t #politics or #religious-wars | Apr 04 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | Speaking of which, I just got one of those chainmails from some idiot about the “liberal agenda” | Apr 04 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | signed all of them up for spam | Apr 04 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Apr 04 22:09 |
| balzac | DaemonFC: you should immediately apologize and retract your insane rhetoric | Apr 04 22:09 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: not all christians proselytize, though | Apr 04 22:09 |
| DaemonFC | I have nothing to apologize for | Apr 04 22:09 |
| schestowitz | Bad news for Free (libre) phones: OpenMoko Project put on Ice < http://www.linuxpromagazine.com/online… > | Apr 04 22:09 |
| DaemonFC | I would only do so if I did not mean every word I said | Apr 04 22:09 |
| MinceR | they only deceive themselves, which (while unfortunate) they should be free to do  |
Apr 04 22:09 |
| balzac | < DaemonFC> and I’d shoot all of them to decontaminate the world | Apr 04 22:09 |
| balzac | that’s sick DaemonFC | Apr 04 22:10 |
| balzac | how old are you? | Apr 04 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | they’re too fucking stupid to live, seriously | Apr 04 22:10 |
| MinceR | balzac: how old are you? | Apr 04 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | that’s what I mean | Apr 04 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | they’re ignorant, short-sighted, and easily deceived | Apr 04 22:10 |
| balzac | 33 – too old for bullshit | Apr 04 22:10 |
| MinceR | lol | Apr 04 22:10 |
| MinceR | no age is too old for bullshit | Apr 04 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | all of them | Apr 04 22:10 |
| balzac | DaemonFC: you don’t think you have anything to apologize for? | Apr 04 22:10 |
| Balrog_ | There are many Christians who feel that stuff is broken, don’t like bush or the ‘conservatives’, etc ….. turn on a shortwave radio and tune around a bit =P | Apr 04 22:10 |
| balzac | I think Roy should’ve banned you already. | Apr 04 22:11 |
| MinceR | yes, and he should have banned you too, balzac | Apr 04 22:11 |
| Balrog_ | (and criticize the ‘churches’) | Apr 04 22:11 |
| balzac | MinceR: you earned a banning earlier by my criteria. | Apr 04 22:11 |
| DaemonFC | they’re responsible for almost every crime against humanity that has been committed | Apr 04 22:11 |
| DaemonFC | ever sincetheir religion was invented | Apr 04 22:11 |
| MinceR | balzac: your criteria are irrelevant | Apr 04 22:11 |
| MinceR | balzac: and so are you | Apr 04 22:11 |
| schestowitz | OK, OK….. | Apr 04 22:12 |
| Balrog_ | not true. Such crimes have been done by people claiming to be christians | Apr 04 22:12 |
| schestowitz | Let’s talk technology | Apr 04 22:12 |
| balzac | how old are you two, 16? | Apr 04 22:12 |
| DaemonFC | including the Holocaust | Apr 04 22:12 |
| DaemonFC | The Nazi “Positive Christianity” | Apr 04 22:12 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: i’d ascribe those to the churches, not the religion | Apr 04 22:12 |
| Balrog_ | I dislike the word ‘religion’ as well | Apr 04 22:12 |
| Balrog_ | it refers to a group, not personal beliefs | Apr 04 22:13 |
| schestowitz | A lot of descent related | Apr 04 22:13 |
| DaemonFC | All religion is bullshit, and if you want to believe bullshit, more power to you. | Apr 04 22:13 |
| DaemonFC | but don’t infringe on my human rights | Apr 04 22:13 |
| schestowitz | Religion can be changed | Apr 04 22:13 |
| schestowitz | Race, skin colour etc cannot | Apr 04 22:13 |
| schestowitz | But the two are often mixed together | Apr 04 22:13 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: The Christian factions are segregated according to how hateful and evil that group of people can be | Apr 04 22:14 |
| DaemonFC | before they reject their faith | Apr 04 22:14 |
| DaemonFC | but you can polish a turd all you want | Apr 04 22:14 |
| DaemonFC | sugar coat it if you will | Apr 04 22:14 |
| DaemonFC | it’s a turd | Apr 04 22:14 |
| MinceR | add sprinkles | Apr 04 22:14 |
| schestowitz | |
Apr 04 22:14 |
| DaemonFC | and chocolate chips | Apr 04 22:15 |
| schestowitz | Just don’t bite | Apr 04 22:15 |
| schestowitz | Only lick | Apr 04 22:15 |
| Balrog_ | DaemonFC: you need to read more. You’re not looking at the whole thing, only parts | Apr 04 22:15 |
| DaemonFC | Christians are depraved and sick and mentally defective | Apr 04 22:15 |
| DaemonFC | and they may think they are good guys | Apr 04 22:15 |
| DaemonFC | but they are not | Apr 04 22:15 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Apr 04 22:15 |
| schestowitz | OK, enough of this. DaemonFC you’re spreading hate here, and i’ts OT anyway | Apr 04 22:16 |
| schestowitz | Morality is to do with humanism, not faith | Apr 04 22:16 |
| Balrog_ | yes, I get tired of hate. And then attempting to show you’re ‘smart’ with 8 – ) | Apr 04 22:16 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: So what do you feel about Novell buying news headlines? | Apr 04 22:17 |
| DaemonFC | or did you notice? | Apr 04 22:17 |
| DaemonFC | They are paying ZDNet to write advertisements for them in sections that Google News harvests | Apr 04 22:18 |
| DaemonFC | |
Apr 04 22:18 |
| DaemonFC | so you get Novell ads in Google News when you search for Linux related news | Apr 04 22:18 |
| schestowitz | *LOL* Mike feel for the prank. http://techdirt.com/articles/20090403… | Apr 04 22:18 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: against OOo | Apr 04 22:19 |
| schestowitz | Novell was accused of all that bad PR for OOo. To promote its fork.. | Apr 04 22:19 |
| schestowitz | They don’t ‘buy’ that per se | Apr 04 22:19 |
| schestowitz | They have friends in the media | Apr 04 22:19 |
| DaemonFC | Debian is pulling Novell’s patches against OOo now | Apr 04 22:19 |
| DaemonFC | if you did not notice | Apr 04 22:19 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft have lots more. And they have agents to push these | Apr 04 22:19 |
| Balrog_ | DaemonFC: links? | Apr 04 22:19 |
| schestowitz | Examples? | Apr 04 22:19 |
| DaemonFC | Debian Lenny has OOo 2.4 | Apr 04 22:20 |
| Balrog_ | I need proof, not hearsay | Apr 04 22:20 |
| DaemonFC | but uses Novell’s OOXML patches | Apr 04 22:20 |
| DaemonFC | no, cause regular OOo 2.4 does not have OOXML capability | Apr 04 22:20 |
| Balrog_ | what about Ubuntu’s OOo 2.4? | Apr 04 22:20 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: Noell paid IDG for this (putting ads in articles) | Apr 04 22:20 |
| schestowitz | Texts that gets scanned by Google News that is | Apr 04 22:20 |
| schestowitz | IDG is IDC, which Novell paid some more recently for that ‘study’ | Apr 04 22:21 |
| DaemonFC | Balrog_: 3.x can handle OOXML but maims some of the formatting | Apr 04 22:21 |
| Balrog_ | I know….. | Apr 04 22:21 |
| schestowitz | But he IDG thing is paid ads in ComputerWorld | Apr 04 22:21 |
| DaemonFC | so I’m pretty sure Ubuntu is using mainline OOo | Apr 04 22:21 |
| Balrog_ | Ubuntu has 2.4 though | Apr 04 22:21 |
| Balrog_ | not 3.0 | Apr 04 22:21 |
| Balrog_ | (Ibex) | Apr 04 22:21 |
| Balrog_ | err, Intrepid | Apr 04 22:21 |
| DaemonFC | I have 3 | Apr 04 22:21 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: Ubuntu uses Go-OO | Apr 04 22:21 |
| schestowitz | It uses the Sun splash screen | Apr 04 22:22 |
| schestowitz | Which is weird | Apr 04 22:22 |
| Balrog_ | hmm. Is it using full Go-OO or only certain patches? | Apr 04 22:22 |
| DaemonFC | mainline OpenOffice is not all that great | Apr 04 22:23 |
| DaemonFC | Go-OO has a lot of improvements | Apr 04 22:23 |
| DaemonFC | including better startup time | Apr 04 22:23 |
| DaemonFC | but yeah, you could jsut cherry pick certain bits of it | Apr 04 22:23 |
| schestowitz | http://edition.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/… “Actress Demi Moore’s frequent postings on Twitter put her in the middle of a life-and-death drama Friday when a woman sent her an online message threatening suicide.” | Apr 04 22:25 |
| Balrog_ | www.cse.umich.edu/ ~jhalderm/pub/talks/aacs-dimacs08.pptx looks interesting | Apr 04 22:26 |
| schestowitz | Generation of crazies who write online about shooting people or committing suicide before they do it. | Apr 04 22:26 |
| Balrog_ | but it’s pptx :X | Apr 04 22:26 |
| schestowitz | Attention whores who try to pass blame to other people online | Apr 04 22:26 |
| schestowitz | Ewwww…… I never see OOXML files. It’s NSFW | Apr 04 22:26 |
| Balrog_ | schestowitz: do you have the software to view them? | Apr 04 22:27 |
| balzac | I try never to use the word “whore” in a negative context | Apr 04 22:27 |
| balzac | although I did the other day, unfortunately… | Apr 04 22:27 |
| schestowitz | HAHA! Another part of Microsoft has just died. | Apr 04 22:28 |
| *oiaohm (n=oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm) has joined #boycottnovell | Apr 04 22:29 | |
| Balrog_ | which one this time? | Apr 04 22:29 |
| balzac | KRS1 raps “kickin’ down the door of that whore, puttin’ an end to that gold-chain war” – Jack of Spades | Apr 04 22:29 |
| schestowitz | http://www.paidcontent.org/entry/419… | Apr 04 22:29 |
| balzac | I found that lyric very disagreeable | Apr 04 22:29 |
| balzac | but he was young and angry when he wrote that song… | Apr 04 22:29 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft might sell Razorfish next. | Apr 04 22:30 |
| balzac | good news | Apr 04 22:31 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft’s ‘final’ days won’t be documented in Encarta, sadly. | Apr 04 22:32 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft will survive, but so had Unisys | Apr 04 22:32 |
| NeonFloss | lol | Apr 04 22:32 |
| schestowitz | *has | Apr 04 22:33 |
| schestowitz | The point is, unless things change, Google will soon look down on Microsoft | Apr 04 22:33 |
| schestowitz | Even Android scares Microsoft because Google can’t be sunk. It’s too big, like IBM. | Apr 04 22:34 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft won’t go under for a long time | Apr 04 22:34 |
| DaemonFC | they own many different types of products/services and can use those for income when something else is not doing so well | Apr 04 22:35 |
| DaemonFC | they can even subsidize loss leaders for years on end (XBOX) | Apr 04 22:35 |
| MinceR | and the only thing that keeps those alive is that they could force them on people using their dominance in the desktop os market | Apr 04 22:36 |
| MinceR | which they’re losing | Apr 04 22:36 |
| schestowitz | XBox lost $7 billion | Apr 04 22:36 |
| MinceR | those bastards are going down. | Apr 04 22:36 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: just HAVING a product don’t mean successs | Apr 04 22:37 |
| schestowitz | Having more products can sink you | Apr 04 22:37 |
| schestowitz | That’s why they axed encarta | Apr 04 22:37 |
| balzac | “bastard” – son born of mother out of wedlock | Apr 04 22:37 |
| DaemonFC | no, but they can force Sony and Nintendo to compete at a loss | Apr 04 22:37 |
| DaemonFC | where it may not be as sustainable for them | Apr 04 22:37 |
| MinceR | balzac: shut up | Apr 04 22:37 |
| balzac | I’m the politically-correct monitor… | Apr 04 22:37 |
| DaemonFC | it’s called area denial | Apr 04 22:37 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Apr 04 22:37 |
| balzac | MinceR: boundary issues – you can’t impose your will on me. | Apr 04 22:37 |
| DaemonFC | or poisoning the well | Apr 04 22:38 |
| balzac | I’m the acting amateur psychiatrist and PC-corrector… | Apr 04 22:38 |
| balzac | “Somebody on the internet is wrong. I can’t let it go!” | Apr 04 22:39 |
| MinceR | balzac: no, you’re the acting troll. | Apr 04 22:39 |
| balzac | MinceR: Digg.com is that way —> | Apr 04 22:39 |
| balzac | you angsty, teenage twerp. | Apr 04 22:40 |
| MinceR | balzac: digg is for apple fanboys like you | Apr 04 22:40 |
| balzac | The last computer from Apple I owned was a mac plus | Apr 04 22:40 |
| balzac | bought in 2000 for nostalgia | Apr 04 22:40 |
| balzac | I didn’t keep it after I moved from boston, but I did play Dark Castle a few times while I had it. | Apr 04 22:41 |
| schestowitz | The liars from IDG are at it again. See comments @ http://linuxtoday.com/news_sto… | Apr 04 22:41 |
| balzac | MinceR: I am not embarrassed to say that Apple makes the best computer chassis and casings for personal electronics | Apr 04 22:42 |
| schestowitz | Visually? | Apr 04 22:43 |
| MinceR | balzac: no apple fanboys are embarrassed to say that, that’s makes them fanboys. | Apr 04 22:43 |
| schestowitz | Best = reliability or looks? | Apr 04 22:43 |
| balzac | MinceR: dry your eyes. They’re still moist, apparently. | Apr 04 22:43 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: religion | Apr 04 22:43 |
| schestowitz | Apple products are like Jessica Simpson. Enough said | Apr 04 22:43 |
| MinceR | balzac: they’re exactly as moist as they need to be | Apr 04 22:43 |
| MinceR | balzac: if you’re dry, you’ll need to see a doctor. | Apr 04 22:43 |
| MinceR | s/you’re/yours are/ | Apr 04 22:44 |
| Balrog_ | schestowitz: I only use Mono to run already-compiled binaries that require .NET. Is this OK? | Apr 04 22:44 |
| balzac | schestowitz: best-engineered, but I like to be able to replace batteries, thus I’ve never owned an iPhone or iPod | Apr 04 22:44 |
| Balrog_ | balzac: I can replace the batteries |
Apr 04 22:44 |
| balzac | nor any apple computer with OSX, or any system above the OS version of the mac plus | Apr 04 22:44 |
| MinceR | they’re easy to replace in two steps | Apr 04 22:44 |
| balzac | that’s good | Apr 04 22:44 |
| MinceR | 1) throw out your mac | Apr 04 22:44 |
| MinceR | 2) buy another mac | Apr 04 22:44 |
| MinceR | there, batteries replaced. | Apr 04 22:45 |
| DaemonFC | Linux runs on PPC and Intel Macs | Apr 04 22:45 |
| Balrog_ | MinceR: did you ever look under the back cover of the 17 inch MacBook Pro? The battery is exposed and easy to remove | Apr 04 22:45 |
| DaemonFC | |
Apr 04 22:45 |
| Balrog_ | DaemonFC: I have it in VM’s | Apr 04 22:45 |
| schestowitz | Forced obsolescence, not just planned | Apr 04 22:45 |
| Balrog_ | and I dual boot, if necessary | Apr 04 22:45 |
| schestowitz | Linux: forced adolescence | Apr 04 22:45 |
| MinceR | Balrog_: and you keep a portrait of Steve Jobs under your pillow | Apr 04 22:45 |
| schestowitz | When boys become men |
Apr 04 22:45 |
| MinceR | i know | Apr 04 22:45 |
| Balrog_ | MinceR: not at all. | Apr 04 22:46 |
| Balrog_ | Steve Jobs wrote about DRM-free music back when most people thought that was crazy. | Apr 04 22:46 |
| Balrog_ | (or many people ) | Apr 04 22:47 |
| MinceR | and OSX still has support for DRM of the executable | Apr 04 22:47 |
| MinceR | s/ble/bles/ | Apr 04 22:47 |
| MinceR | itunes still sells DRM-ed movies and whatnot. | Apr 04 22:47 |
| Balrog_ | did you ever look at Skype’s executable? | Apr 04 22:47 |
| MinceR | i know skype is evil | Apr 04 22:47 |
| MinceR | that’s no excuse for crApple | Apr 04 22:47 |
| Balrog_ | MinceR: changing things while keeping the industry placated isn’t an easy task. Gradualism seems to work though | Apr 04 22:48 |
| Balrog_ | OSX executable encryption is terribly weak | Apr 04 22:48 |
| Balrog_ | so is the key |
Apr 04 22:48 |
| Balrog_ | I could put the key here, but then it will be logged | Apr 04 22:48 |
| MinceR | DRM is terribly weak | Apr 04 22:48 |
| DaemonFC | OS X is easy to use on a standard PC | Apr 04 22:49 |
| MinceR | yet the intent of screwing the customers is readily apparent | Apr 04 22:49 |
| DaemonFC | it’s just….why would you want OS X? | Apr 04 22:49 |
| MinceR | same with making dtrace refuse to work on itunes | Apr 04 22:49 |
| Balrog_ | MinceR: to appease the music industry? that’s easy to work around though | Apr 04 22:49 |
| MinceR | (even though that modified code was open, so you could easily change it to work) | Apr 04 22:49 |
| schestowitz | Good analysis from sjvn of the Sun-IBM impact: http://blogs.computerworld.com/good_bye… (Good-bye Solaris? The fate of Sun’s top 5 technologies) | Apr 04 22:49 |
| DaemonFC | OS X is technically obsolete when compared to even FREE UNIX clones | Apr 04 22:49 |
| MinceR | Balrog_: yes, they lie down for the music industry while screwing the people who buy their products | Apr 04 22:50 |
| Balrog_ | see http://reverse.put.as/ | Apr 04 22:50 |
| Balrog_ | MinceR: they’re not as close to the music industry as MS | Apr 04 22:50 |
| MinceR | and fanboys enjoy being screwed and they ask for more | Apr 04 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | The best stuff about OS X is the parts Apple did not write | Apr 04 22:50 |
| MinceR | Balrog_: did you see me claim apple was worse than m$? | Apr 04 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | when they get ZFS, that will be even more true | Apr 04 22:50 |
| balzac | MinceR: sounds like masculine insecurity now | Apr 04 22:50 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: and that’s the stuff apple is so damn proud of | Apr 04 22:50 |
| balzac | other people’s sexual orientation is not for you to judge | Apr 04 22:50 |
| Balrog_ | they rely on the music industry, but the music industry relies more on them | Apr 04 22:50 |
| balzac | man, it’s like shooting fish in a barrel | Apr 04 22:51 |
| MinceR | balzac: are you so offended in your fanboyism that now you’re trying to smear me with that? | Apr 04 22:51 |
| balzac | i should give em a break… | Apr 04 22:51 |
| MinceR | balzac: you’re pathetic | Apr 04 22:51 |
| Balrog_ | this place seems to be full of haters. | Apr 04 22:51 |
| MinceR | balzac: go hug your steve jobs portrait already | Apr 04 22:51 |
| balzac | typical IRC sad-sacks | Apr 04 22:51 |
| Balrog_ | get a life | Apr 04 22:51 |
| balzac | MinceR: I wish Steve Jobs good health and a long life | Apr 04 22:51 |
| MinceR | Balrog_: you seem to enjoy being hated | Apr 04 22:52 |
| DaemonFC | Apple’s file system alone should scare away any professional from trying to use OS X | Apr 04 22:52 |
| MinceR | balzac: i know. | Apr 04 22:52 |
| DaemonFC | especially as a server | Apr 04 22:52 |
| balzac | hopefully he’ll embrace GPLv3-licensed software. | Apr 04 22:52 |
| DaemonFC | that’s why they’re stealing ZFS | Apr 04 22:52 |
| MinceR | balzac: fat chance | Apr 04 22:52 |
| MinceR | balzac: he didn’t even embrace GPLv2-licensed sw | Apr 04 22:52 |
| schestowitz | FAT? | Apr 04 22:52 |
| DaemonFC | HFS+ | Apr 04 22:52 |
| Balrog_ | Apple’s file system has some benefits | Apr 04 22:52 |
| balzac | MinceR: thanks for informing me of that. | Apr 04 22:52 |
| MinceR | he did embrace sw patents though | Apr 04 22:52 |
| DaemonFC | is the worst file system in use by any unix | Apr 04 22:52 |
| balzac | But he has lgpl-licensed webkit in Safari | Apr 04 22:52 |
| DaemonFC | period | Apr 04 22:52 |
| Balrog_ | did he sue over sw patents yet? | Apr 04 22:52 |
| Balrog_ | DaemonFC: that’s your POV | Apr 04 22:53 |
| MinceR | balzac: well, he couldn’t steal a BSDL-ed engine | Apr 04 22:53 |
| schestowitz | balzac: not true | Apr 04 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | no, it’s true | Apr 04 22:53 |
| schestowitz | HE TOOK KHTML | Apr 04 22:53 |
| schestowitz | He didn’t choose GPL | Apr 04 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | look at its technical limitations | Apr 04 22:53 |
| schestowitz | And he needed to be pushed for it | Apr 04 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | HFS+ crappyness speaks for itself | Apr 04 22:53 |
| balzac | ok | Apr 04 22:53 |
| MinceR | he should have been sued, not pushed | Apr 04 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | balzac: Or you could use Bonnie++ or IOZone on it | Apr 04 22:53 |
| schestowitz | FSF is too friendly | Apr 04 22:53 |
| schestowitz | gpl-violations or kde | Apr 04 22:54 |
| DaemonFC | that will flush out HFS+’s horrible performance | Apr 04 22:54 |
| MinceR | does the FSF own copyrights on KDE? | Apr 04 22:54 |
| balzac | DaemonFC: Balrog_, you meant | Apr 04 22:54 |
| MinceR | if not, i doubt they can sue for violations on it | Apr 04 22:54 |
| DaemonFC | errr, sorry | Apr 04 22:54 |
| Balrog_ | Apple will have to deal with GPLv3 | Apr 04 22:54 |
| MinceR | they’ll avoid it as much as they can | Apr 04 22:54 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: the licence | Apr 04 22:54 |
| Balrog_ | they can’t. | Apr 04 22:54 |
| MinceR | remember how much they love sw patents | Apr 04 22:55 |
| Balrog_ | they rely on Samba | Apr 04 22:55 |
| DaemonFC | I’ve ran IOZone and Bonnie++ on most unix file systems, and at least performance-wise, XFS, Ext4, and ZFS come out on top | Apr 04 22:55 |
| DaemonFC | the only part that messes up XFS performance is deletion of many small files | Apr 04 22:55 |
| DaemonFC | say, under 50k | Apr 04 22:55 |
| MinceR | performance is not the only thing that matters | Apr 04 22:56 |
| schestowitz | Balrog: fine, so Apple distributes GPLv3-ed s/w | Apr 04 22:56 |
| DaemonFC | that can be alleviated with logbuffs=8 and attr2 options on mount | Apr 04 22:56 |
| Balrog_ | well, they don’t want to distribute GCC ……… (though I don’t think LLVM will be ready in time) | Apr 04 22:56 |
| DaemonFC | true, I’ve decided that Ext4 is probably your best overall bet if you can go with that | Apr 04 22:56 |
| MinceR | i doubt apple claims any patents on samba anyway | Apr 04 22:56 |
| MinceR | or gcc | Apr 04 22:57 |
| DaemonFC | Webkit is under LGPL | Apr 04 22:57 |
| Balrog_ | probably not. | Apr 04 22:57 |
| DaemonFC | GPL 3 will have little or no impact on it | Apr 04 22:57 |
| Balrog_ | doesn’t LGPL include a patent licensing provision? | Apr 04 22:57 |
| DaemonFC | unless KDE devs relicense KHTML | Apr 04 22:57 |
| MinceR | even v2 has a weak provision, iirc | Apr 04 22:58 |
| DaemonFC | and why would they if they’re getting all this great stuff from Apple? | Apr 04 22:58 |
| MinceR | the one m$ got around with “covenant not to sue” | Apr 04 22:58 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: what great stuff? | Apr 04 22:58 |
| DaemonFC | Well, speed, and rendering abilities mainly | Apr 04 22:58 |
| MinceR | making KHTML independent of the toolkit they use or minor patches? | Apr 04 22:58 |
| DaemonFC | KHTML passing ACID 2 was from backported Webkit patches | Apr 04 22:58 |
| DaemonFC | for example | Apr 04 22:58 |
| Balrog_ | and now acid 3 | Apr 04 22:58 |
| DaemonFC | mmhm | Apr 04 22:59 |
| Balrog_ | (though idk if khtml passes it yet) | Apr 04 22:59 |
| DaemonFC | so they’d cut off much of their development support if they relicense KHTML | Apr 04 22:59 |
| schestowitz | http://www.enterprisestorageforum.com… :: IBM-Sun Merger Appears Near | Apr 04 22:59 |
| DaemonFC | I think Konqueror will run Webkit eventually anyway | Apr 04 22:59 |
| MinceR | they’d also lose out of apple decided to patent and sue about some of their patches | Apr 04 22:59 |
| DaemonFC | there’s already a Kpart to use Webkit, but it’s buggy | Apr 04 23:00 |
| Balrog_ | DaemonFC: what would they switch to? | Apr 04 23:00 |
| DaemonFC | they have talked about switching before | Apr 04 23:00 |
| MinceR | iirc qt4 includes webkit already or something | Apr 04 23:00 |
| Balrog_ | MinceR: can apple do that with the code under the LGPL? | Apr 04 23:00 |
| DaemonFC | Balrog_: Webkit is much better than KHTML | Apr 04 23:00 |
| MinceR | Balrog_: i think they can | Apr 04 23:00 |
| MinceR | Balrog_: all they need to do is use LGPLv2 and grant their customers a “covenant not to sue” | Apr 04 23:00 |
| MinceR | but no patent license | Apr 04 23:00 |
| MinceR | and then sue anybody else who uses webkit | Apr 04 23:01 |
| MinceR | or whoever they choose | Apr 04 23:01 |
| MinceR | or FUD/threaten them into paying | Apr 04 23:01 |
| Balrog_ | “if a patent license would not permit royalty-free redistribution of the Library by all those who receive copies directly or indirectly through you, then the only way you could satisfy both it and this License would be to refrain entirely from distribution of the Library.” | Apr 04 23:01 |
| MinceR | this is why *GPLv3 is important | Apr 04 23:01 |
| Balrog_ | what about indirectly? | Apr 04 23:01 |
| MinceR | indirectly what? | Apr 04 23:02 |
| Balrog_ | receive copies directly or indirectly | Apr 04 23:02 |
| MinceR | what is that quote from? | Apr 04 23:05 |
| Balrog_ | the LGPL2.1 | Apr 04 23:05 |
| MinceR | even the GPLv2 includes that | Apr 04 23:06 |
| Balrog_ | yeah. :/ | Apr 04 23:06 |
| Balrog_ | then how do they circumvent it? | Apr 04 23:06 |
| MinceR | a naive reading would indicate that the m$/novell trick shouldn’t work | Apr 04 23:06 |
| MinceR | so i don’t know what’s up with this | Apr 04 23:07 |
| MinceR | better ask a lawyer |
Apr 04 23:07 |
| MinceR | perhaps it should be possible for a copyright holder of a GPLv2-ed package redistributed with SuSE to sue Novell | Apr 04 23:08 |
| Balrog_ | http://www.uwwwb.com/ | Apr 04 23:09 |
| Balrog_ | read it | Apr 04 23:09 |
| schestowitz | And… yet another Microsoft screwup today: http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=2446 | Apr 04 23:11 |
| MinceR | welcome to the Land of the Free | Apr 04 23:11 |
| Balrog_ | hopefully the streisand effect helps | Apr 04 23:12 |
| MinceR | nothing will help as long as billions of people gladly accept living in such oppression | Apr 04 23:14 |
| Balrog_ | schestowitz: looked at that URL? | Apr 04 23:18 |
| schestowitz | http://online.wsj.com/articl… http://www.pcworld.com/article/162572/tmo… | Apr 04 23:18 |
| schestowitz | Balrog: not yet | Apr 04 23:18 |
| schestowitz | I’m tired | Apr 04 23:18 |
| Balrog_ | it’s worth a read. possibly a blog post may be able to use that info | Apr 04 23:18 |
| MinceR | a less brutal color scheme would certainly help the uwwwb page | Apr 04 23:19 |
| MinceR | i get stripes in my vision if i look elsewhere | Apr 04 23:19 |
| Balrog_ | yes, though you can copy / paste the text somewhere else | Apr 04 23:20 |
| MinceR | or i could switch to user mode |
Apr 04 23:20 |
| Balrog_ | yeah … | Apr 04 23:20 |
| schestowitz | This http://www.uwwwb.com/ site is very obscure | Apr 04 23:22 |
| schestowitz | Ranks suggest that hardly anyone visits it | Apr 04 23:22 |
| schestowitz | No crackpot, Balrog ? | Apr 04 23:22 |
| Balrog_ | this is the owner of Core IP | Apr 04 23:22 |
| Balrog_ | that was raided by the FBI | Apr 04 23:22 |
| Balrog_ | it’s on slashdot | Apr 04 23:22 |
| schestowitz | I didn’t rreal the whole thing | Apr 04 23:22 |
| schestowitz | I see.. | Apr 04 23:22 |
| schestowitz | So that’s just a personal site referring to another/others | Apr 04 23:23 |
| schestowitz | I am too tired to read it | Apr 04 23:23 |
| Balrog_ | it’s a forum of some sort. | Apr 04 23:23 |
| Balrog_ | but the owner of Core IP runs it | Apr 04 23:23 |
| schestowitz | “I’m an athlete, and they made me out to be some deranged CEO dope fiend in order to get their bogus search warrant to invade my home.” | Apr 04 23:26 |
| schestowitz | “These guys actually put in the affidavit that it was alleged that I did crack cocaine and methamphetamines. I am a 36-year-old white-collar father of three, I work 100 hours a week…” | Apr 04 23:26 |
| balzac | 100 hours a week? how is that possible without speed? | Apr 04 23:27 |
| balzac | but regardless of that, it’s his natural right to do so. | Apr 04 23:27 |
| schestowitz | “Okay, so let’s just say they are doing their job, and they are not turning the country we love into the new Nazi Germany. To be honest, I am not a tin-foil-hat guy, I don’t believe in 9-11 conspiracies, and I just don’t buy into any of the government conspiracies.” | Apr 04 23:27 |
| schestowitz | Strong words | Apr 04 23:27 |
| Balrog_ | you can work 14 hours a day | Apr 04 23:27 |
| schestowitz | Depends on the nature of work | Apr 04 23:28 |
| schestowitz | Some jobs are like hobbies | Apr 04 23:28 |
| balzac | I’ve done a couple of all-night sessions recently and it sucks to do so. | Apr 04 23:28 |
| schestowitz | Web hosts are very dedicated to it. They must be. | Apr 04 23:28 |
| MinceR | i’d use strong words too if they confiscated all my equipment for investigation and then they didn’t do any investigation | Apr 04 23:28 |
| MinceR | :> | Apr 04 23:28 |
| balzac | those are valid points | Apr 04 23:28 |
| balzac | down with the moral-hypocrites and their war on drug-users | Apr 04 23:29 |
| balzac | they are among the very most reprehensible totalitarians | Apr 04 23:29 |
| MinceR | “the federal prosecutors win 90% of their cases” — isn’t this the kind of thing they say about totalitarian countries | Apr 04 23:31 |
| MinceR | (and hungary)? | Apr 04 23:31 |
| balzac | we should empty the prisons of all non-violent drug offenders to make space for members of congress who’ve behaved like Crown Prince Bush’s aristocracy | Apr 04 23:31 |
| Balrog_ | in this case, there’s already been a lot of publicity. Hopefully this makes the FBI look bad | Apr 04 23:31 |
| MinceR | i’d say they don’t necessarily deserve to get food and a place to sleep for the rest of their life but then you’d attack me again for being an “angstivism” or some other word you’ve made up on the spot | Apr 04 23:32 |
| MinceR | s/ism/ist/ | Apr 04 23:32 |
| MinceR | has anyone else written on this case already? | Apr 04 23:32 |
| MinceR | it would be nice to see if it’s true or not | Apr 04 23:32 |
| Balrog_ | http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?… | Apr 04 23:33 |
| Balrog_ | and | Apr 04 23:33 |
| Balrog_ | http://tech.slashdot.org/article… | Apr 04 23:33 |
| Balrog_ | first is newer | Apr 04 23:33 |
| balzac | MinceR: you’re right, I would call it excessively vengeful to starve people to death in prison, or to execute them. | Apr 04 23:33 |
| balzac | you are an “angstivist”. it’s a good thing I made up that word because there are so many people it applies to. | Apr 04 23:34 |
| MinceR | Balrog_: thanks | Apr 04 23:34 |
| MinceR | balzac: you are an “idiot”. it’s a good thing somebody made up that word because there are so many people it applies to. | Apr 04 23:34 |
| balzac | Poor MinceR, you’ve got a trickle of inner tears which never seem to stop flowing | Apr 04 23:35 |
| balzac | there’s a pill for that, you know? | Apr 04 23:35 |
| MinceR | balzac: keep guessing | Apr 04 23:35 |
| balzac | it’s called the crying baby-man pill | Apr 04 23:35 |
| MinceR | “inner tears”, you crack me up | Apr 04 23:36 |
| MinceR | sadly, there’s no pill for being a retard, so you can’t be helped | Apr 04 23:36 |
| balzac | I have a friend who is literally retarded. I respect him, so I don’t use the word retarded in a derogatory way. | Apr 04 23:37 |
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| MinceR | balzac: i suspect he’s in a better state than you are. | Apr 04 23:37 |
| balzac | Chris is a little slow, but his personality is worth the patience it takes to hear him out as he composes his thoughts. | Apr 04 23:37 |
| schestowitz | Interesting read | Apr 04 23:38 |
| balzac | he’s slow but he’s a unique personality and has insights to share. | Apr 04 23:38 |
| balzac | retarded people can be wise. | Apr 04 23:38 |
| Balrog_ | schestowitz: what do you think? I’m alarmed. | Apr 04 23:38 |
| balzac | chris is wiser than you are, Mincer. | Apr 04 23:38 |
| MinceR | balzac: on the other hand, your personality isn’t worth anything. | Apr 04 23:39 |
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| balzac | MinceR: you may just want to go and have a good cry. | Apr 04 23:39 |
| schestowitz | Balrog: it seems alarmist | Apr 04 23:39 |
| schestowitz | Maybe it’s about what he is NOT telling | Apr 04 23:40 |
| MinceR | balzac: if you want to spew inflammatory nonsense, could you at least leave my nick out of it? | Apr 04 23:40 |
| Balrog_ | yes it does, but the raids did happen. | Apr 04 23:40 |
| schestowitz | But I wouldn’t trust what spooks say, either | Apr 04 23:40 |
| balzac | but then again, maybe you’ll make a habit of it. Chicks don’t seem to find crying-baby-men very appealing, so maybe you should keep a stiff upper lip instead. | Apr 04 23:40 |
| MinceR | balzac: i prefer to be hilighted only by people who have something to say. | Apr 04 23:40 |
| balzac | don’t be so emotionally volatile | Apr 04 23:40 |
| schestowitz | “WeaponsWeaponsWeapons of mass destruction yadda yadda..|{ | Apr 04 23:40 |
| MinceR | look who’s talking. | Apr 04 23:40 |
| schestowitz | ‘They also raided the home of a Wiileaks mirror hoster | Apr 04 23:41 |
| balzac | MinceR: anyone who knows me is aware that I have a rather reptilian limbic system. | Apr 04 23:41 |
| MinceR | balzac: well, at least your chicks accept your money for the act. :> | Apr 04 23:41 |
| schestowitz | As though Wikileaks is a crime of something | Apr 04 23:41 |
| Balrog_ | in Germany | Apr 04 23:41 |
| schestowitz | Quite the opposite | Apr 04 23:41 |
| Balrog_ | yeah :/ | Apr 04 23:41 |
| schestowitz | yes | Apr 04 23:41 |
| schestowitz | It EXPOSES crime | Apr 04 23:41 |
| MinceR | balzac: that’s rather demeaning to reptiles. | Apr 04 23:41 |
| schestowitz | The authorities shouild REWARD Wikileaks | Apr 04 23:41 |
| schestowitz | And use it to investigate | Apr 04 23:41 |
| balzac | ice-water in my veins | Apr 04 23:41 |
| MinceR | authorities aren’t against crime though | Apr 04 23:41 |
| schestowitz | But Wikileaks also exposed federal crime | Apr 04 23:41 |
| schestowitz | Like a filter list | Apr 04 23:41 |
| MinceR | they’re part of it | Apr 04 23:41 |
| schestowitz | ice-water? | Apr 04 23:42 |
| schestowitz | It can’t be both? | Apr 04 23:42 |
| balzac | roy, i’m just saying i’m cool | Apr 04 23:42 |
| schestowitz | Just don’t braick yourself | Apr 04 23:42 |
| schestowitz | “Ice, ice baby” | Apr 04 23:42 |
| schestowitz | *brick | Apr 04 23:42 |
| balzac | Vanilla Ice is making a bit of a come-back | Apr 04 23:45 |
| balzac | classic douche-bag icon | Apr 04 23:45 |
| schestowitz | http://www.uwwwb.com/ | Apr 04 23:46 |
| schestowitz | http://web.archive.org/web/*/http:/… | Apr 04 23:46 |
| schestowitz | http://web.archive.org/web/2007012005… | Apr 04 23:46 |
| schestowitz | http://web.archive.org/web/2007010… | Apr 04 23:48 |
| Balrog_ | hrm. I see. | Apr 04 23:50 |
| MinceR | looks like a warez forum to me | Apr 04 23:50 |
| schestowitz | Yes. | Apr 04 23:50 |
| schestowitz | cu tomorrow | Apr 04 23:51 |
| MinceR | o/ | Apr 04 23:53 |
| Balrog_ | ah .. these are two different datacenters, apparently | Apr 04 23:54 |
| Balrog_ | Crydon and CoreIP | Apr 04 23:54 |
| MinceR | (offtopic) http://i41.tinypic.com/t70h3p.gif | Apr 04 23:55 |
| balzac | that was funny | Apr 04 23:57 |
| balzac | i used to be all into ‘warez’ thinking i was getting away with so much | Apr 04 23:57 |
| MinceR | that’s why you were into it? | Apr 04 23:58 |
| balzac | my proprietary software collection was a source of pride, and my most valuable posession | Apr 04 23:58 |
| Balrog_ | all ‘unlicensed’? | Apr 04 23:58 |
| balzac | 30 lbs of CDs | Apr 04 23:58 |
| balzac | yep | Apr 04 23:58 |
| balzac | I was going to learn it all, and be a windows system administrator, database architect, etc. | Apr 04 23:59 |
