EditorsAbout the SiteComes vs. MicrosoftUsing This Web SiteSite ArchivesCredibility IndexOOXMLOpenDocumentPatentsNovellNews DigestSite NewsRSS

01.01.10

Microsoft on GNU/Linux Clones of Microsoft: “We’d Have to Look to the Protection Offered Under Intellectual Property [sic] Law”

Posted in Asia, GNU/Linux, GPL, Microsoft, Mono, Novell, Windows at 6:44 am by Dr. Roy Schestowitz

Mo-no Mono

Summary: Lessons for Novell and other Mono proponents in light of Microsoft’s response to Ylmf OS

ONE of the biggest GNU/Linux stories this week ought to be about Ylmf OS, which is a Windows XP clone based on Ubuntu GNU/Linux. Microsoft has foolishly cracked down on counterfeiters in China, leading them only to GNU/Linux, as expected.

By its very own choice, Microsoft is now stirring up a hornet’s nest and Microsoft Nick has contacted Microsoft to ask its people about Ylmf OS. Here are the answers:

And Microsoft isn’t sure what to do about it.

[...]

I contacted Microsoft to see if they knew of Ylmf OS and what legal options they might have. Because Ylmf OS is based on Linux, and not a straight Windows XP hack, the applicable law here is foggy. Especially since intellectual property law enforcement in China is so lax.

“We have not really evaluated the code here, but assuming that this is a Linux implementation we agree that the existing laws against software piracy are unlikely to apply here,” a Microsoft spokesperson told me via e-mail. “So we’d have to look to the protection offered under intellectual property law generally in the relevant jurisdictions.

“But it would be difficult to talk about the legal options in a general sense as each instance is unique, depending not only on the local IP laws in play (in this case in China) but also the technical implementation itself. We’d need to drill down into the specifics to understand better what Microsoft IP rights may be at stake here.”

So, Microsoft does not rule out being an intellectual monopoly bully, even in China where these laws are much weaker (and enforcement too).

“Novell has already put MonoDevelop for Windows in a position of advantage by connecting it to Visual Studio.”Ylmf OS seems to be mostly about appearance, not function. Underneath, Ylmf OS lacks compatibility with wonderful Windows applications like Conficker and Nimda.

But when it comes to function, Novell is trying to mimic that too, poorly. Novell wants GNU/Linux to behave similarly (e.g. Moonlight) and offers analogous development tools, such as MonoDevelop, which has recently eliminated GPL-licensed code.

The following new article calls MonoDevelop (in the headline) “Visual Studio Lite for the Linux Developer.”

Does that sound wrong or what?

Descriptions such as this confirm that it is indeed an appetiser for Visual Studio. But this one, unlike Visual Studio Lite, runs outside Windows too, so once the developers are done with the appetiser they can move to Visual Studio, which of course requires Windows. Novell has already put MonoDevelop for Windows in a position of advantage by connecting it to Visual Studio [1, 2].

In reference to the article above, “Evangelism is War” [PDF] is brought up by someone who says : “Stay far, far away from Mono and crack.”

Share this post: These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and discover new web pages.
  • Digg
  • del.icio.us
  • Reddit
  • co.mments
  • DZone
  • email
  • Google Bookmarks
  • LinkedIn
  • NewsVine
  • Print
  • Technorati
  • TwitThis
  • Facebook

If you liked this post, consider subscribing to the RSS feed or join us now at the IRC channels.

Pages that cross-reference this one

3 Comments

  1. Robotron 2084 said,

    January 1, 2010 at 1:48 pm

    Gravatar

    Ylmf lacks more than just compatibility with malicious software, but with most popular Windows software programs as well. Most notably QQ, the widely popular IM network in China. That’s why you see a shortcut for “Web QQ” in the article’s screenshot. There is an outdated Linux version of QQ but it’s unstable and missing a lot of features. Empathy won’t connect at all, Pidgin connects but doesn’t support much more than basic chat, and the Windows version does not work under Wine.

    Microsoft certainly isn’t driving mainstream Chinese users to Linux because there is little appeal to using an OS with limited software support for the programs that are popular with Chinese people. Including pirated movie web sites that rely on P2P clients to stream video to viewers.

  2. NotZed said,

    January 1, 2010 at 5:23 pm

    Gravatar

    Of all applications, why would one want to copy visual studio? It’s even worse than Word or Excel as far as horribly outdated and crappy software goes.

    Roy Schestowitz Reply:

    Many people–including my brother–choose Eclipse even though they get VS for free. I quite liked Trolltech’s and KDE’s development tools.

What Else is New


  1. Links - Anti-Trust Roundups - Yahoo, Nokia, Barns and Nobel





  2. Links - MSNokia Passes Blame, Bill Gates pushes GMOs, Open Access news





  3. Links 7/2/2012: Firefox 11 Enters Beta, Canonical Disappoints KDE

    Links for the day



  4. IRC Proceedings: February 6th, 2012

    IRC logs for February 6th, 2012



  5. IRC Proceedings: February 5th, 2012

    IRC logs for February 5th, 2012



  6. Links 6/2/2012: PCLinuxOS 2012.02 and Mint KDE Reviews

    Links for the day



  7. Bill Gates Indoctrinates Youth in the United States and India, Critics Speak Out

    Backlash against the Gates Crusade to brainwash the young minds all around the world



  8. Bill Gates Uses Symbolic 'Donation' to Force Taxpayers to Pay Microsoft (of Which He Holds Shares)

    The Gates Foundation goes lobbying for Microsoft again, this time in Vietnam



  9. Monopoly as Innovation?

    Challenging the old misconception that patents are beneficial to anything but few multinationals and their patent lawyers



  10. Links 5/2/2012: Lenovo in India, Netrunner 4.1 is Out

    Links for the day



  11. IRC Proceedings: February 4th, 2012

    IRC logs for February 4th, 2012



  12. OpenStack, Microsoft, Junk Patents, Microsoft Copyrights, and Oracle Copyrights

    Another look at the OpenStack situation, why Microsoft should not be allowed to enter, and more about patent and copyright complications



  13. Apple, Which Started Patent Wars, Gets What It Deserves

    Apple products get banned (for the time being) after Apple decided to attack Linux-supporting competitors and then received some blowback



  14. Unitary Patent and the Emergence of More Junk Patents

    The rise of the junk patents and what we are taught about them by the news, including some news about the unitary patent in Europe



  15. Backlash Against Bill Gates' Lobbying for Patented Life

    GMO, a robbery of the right of reproduction (and a potential health hazard), is promoted by Bill Gates for profit, whereupon critics strike back



  16. IRC Proceedings: February 3rd, 2012

    IRC logs for February 3rd, 2012



  17. Links 4/2/2012: Ubuntu 12.04 Alpha 2 Preview, ACTA Backlash in Europe

    Links for the day



  18. A Glimpse at Executives Who Left the Sinking Novell Ship

    A roundup of news about former Novell staff and where that staff is moving these days



  19. Novell Makes New Software for Microsoft Windows and Office

    PR spin from Novell and money-grabbing moves that promote proprietary software rather than Free/Open Source software



  20. Links 3/2/2012: BT Vision Goes for Linux, Linux 3.3 With Android

    Links for the day



  21. Debt in Attachmate

    The company that bought Novell has a poor outlook, financial issues, and little signs of expansion/renaissance



  22. Longtime SUSE Executive Holger Dyroff Moves on, SUSE in a Bad State

    Key people continue to leave SUSE and the distribution is left without a compelling sales pitch



  23. Groklaw Update on Android Patent Cases and Response to FUD From Microsoft Lobbyists

    A few updates of greater importance where the Linux situation is discussed in the context of Android and Novell



  24. IRC Proceedings: February 2nd, 2012

    IRC logs for February 2nd, 2012



  25. Links 2/2/2012: DEFT Linux 7, Mozilla Firefox 10

    Links for the day



  26. IRC Proceedings: February 1st, 2012

    IRC logs for February 1st, 2012



  27. IRC Proceedings: January 31st, 2012

    IRC logs for January 31st, 2012



  28. IRC Proceedings: January 30th, 2012

    IRC logs for January 30th, 2012



  29. Bill Gates is Hijacking Open Source While Attacking It Using Lobbyists, Patents, and Patent Trolls

    Response to reputation laundering from Wired Magazine, the latest nonsense from Microsoft's lobbyist Florian Müller, an update on Microsoft's trolling against Android, and a little more of Apple's



  30. The Gates Foundation is Still Hijacking the Voice of the Poor and Effectively Runs Paid Advertisements Inside 'News'

    Money still the vehicle by which opinions get heard, so Bill Gates exploits this for fame, power, and profit


RSS 64x64RSS Feed: subscribe to the RSS feed for regular updates

Home iconSite Wiki: You can improve this site by helping the extension of the site's content

Chat iconIRC Channel: Come and chat with us in real time

Recent Posts