EditorsAbout the SiteComes vs. MicrosoftUsing This Web SiteSite ArchivesCredibility IndexOOXMLOpenDocumentPatentsNovellNews DigestSite NewsRSS

01.16.11

Mono in ‘Damage Control’

Posted in Microsoft, Mono, Novell at 12:57 am by Dr. Roy Schestowitz

Fire and ice

Summary: Mono/.NET boosters have initiated another wave of ruthless personal attacks to defend the indefensible

AS many people can tell, Techrights has been getting a lot of flak from the Mono community over the past week or so. Whether it’s in blogs, in IRC, microblogging or whatever, the Mono community is scrambling to respond to the latest PR problem that they have. Always ask yourself though, are they actually addressing the criticisms? Or are they attacking people and their respective platform? If it’s the latter (which it overwhelming is), then it means they have no counter argument and they resort to the lowest from of defence. While it is true that some sites still cover Mono applications (but not as many sites as there used to be), there is usually a warning about the nature of Mono and that's important progress. Mono boosters spin it. They are still in denial over the FSF's stance for example. It’s like the rejected boyfriend who keeps pretending his ex-girlfriend loves him. The truth of the matter is, more and more people are fed up with Mono and those many personal attacks on Mono critics (misquoting, out of context quoting, false associations, cheap smears, disinformation, etc.) are no longer effective. Their shelf life is due. To repeat the take-home message, when viewing a defence of Mono, check to see if it’s an attack on messengers or a real defence. Unpopular opinions are not incorrect opinions and they initially put the source at risk.

Share this post: These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and discover new web pages.
  • Digg
  • del.icio.us
  • Reddit
  • co.mments
  • DZone
  • email
  • Google Bookmarks
  • LinkedIn
  • NewsVine
  • Print
  • Technorati
  • TwitThis
  • Facebook

If you liked this post, consider subscribing to the RSS feed or join us now at the IRC channels.

Pages that cross-reference this one

13 Comments

  1. The Mad Hatter said,

    January 16, 2011 at 3:02 am

    Gravatar

    Dangerous analogy, since the rejected boyfriend is usually a sociopath who ends up killing her.

    Wayne

    PS: I was reading books on DNA and other evidence collection tools and means twenty years before CSI first aired. Some of the people who told me I was crazy to read that stuff are now hooked. Of course none of them have apologized…

  2. Dr. Roy Schestowitz said,

    January 16, 2011 at 4:50 am

    Gravatar

    Dangerous analogy, since the rejected boyfriend is usually a sociopath who ends up killing her.

    I was talking about agony resulting from rejection and I know guys (friends of mine) in that situation although girls too, I suppose, can outnumber guys in the same sort of position. So “sociopath who ends up killing her” is another matter altogether.

    The Mad Hatter Reply:

    Yeah, guess I was being sexist. Murder is an equal opportunity sport these days.

    twitter Reply:

    There are better analogies but none are so good as a simple statement of facts. You could compare the mono moaning to a frustrated animal in rut, or just call them a bunch of dicks. It is obvious that none care too much for the long term safety or efficiency of free software. They simply boost their favorite language and work at the expense of other, often better works and don’t care if using Microsoft’s insane, patented framework brings bloat, instability, inefficiency or lawsuits. A safer, less sexualized analogy would be to call mono a cockoo or brood parasite that’s pushing out free software chicks like GIMP and Richard Stallman out of the nest. Microsoft did the same thing to IBM once, pushing MFC or some other hated framework that Microsoft people would never use onto Lotus developers. I love this picture. Microsoft dreams of Ubuntu looking like that nest. The problem with those analogies is that animals don’t get paid to gratify themselves and prominent mono boosters are. Only their deluded followers have the honesty of animal urges. The news is that several mono pushers have been on a tear, attacking Techrights and others who oppose them. That and money on the table are disgraceful. The Microsoft/Novell goal is to divide and conquer.

    Dr. Roy Schestowitz Reply:

    I quite like the photo and its licence.

  3. mario said,

    January 16, 2011 at 12:00 pm

    Gravatar

    There’s a certain lack of objectivity and hence trustworthiness in your posts. Would you mind adding a few verifying links to the claimed personal attacks from the Mono community? Otherwise I’d have to assume you are just the rambling nutjub as which you come across.

    Dr. Roy Schestowitz Reply:

    Why would I want to link to insults?

    mario Reply:

    To verify that you didn’t make them up? Also, you didn’t actually seem opposed to smearing or insulting others.

    Dr. Roy Schestowitz Reply:

    I was sincere in my criticism and also very polite. The smears I refer to here are both impolite and at times libelous. To make matters worse, Novell employees participate in this.

    twitter Reply:

    There are numerous links in the IRC logs you can research if you like. They link to Twitter postings and other ephemeral stuff that does not deserve repetition or promotion.

    Your own posting here is a good enough example. Most people who read this site do not think of Roy as a, “rambling nutjub.” These smears come from a small group of mono boosters and other Microsoft affiliated people who also dump on the likes of Richard Stallman and Groklaw. Thanks for helping out but I don’t think it’s working for you.

    The Mad Hatter Reply:

    Have to wonder if @rclayton is hanging around here.

    Dr. Roy Schestowitz Reply:

    I think it’s someone’s aggressive alter-ego/pseudonym (for use when in need of militant pro-Mono backup).

    The Mad Hatter Reply:

    Agreed, it’s someone’s alter-ego. The evidence in the posting pattern is pretty clear.

What Else is New


  1. Links 19/6/2013: Chromebooks Spread, Linux Community Distro Poll, Nokia Sale Talks Over, Subversion 1.8

    Links for the day



  2. White House Should Identify USPTO as the Problem, Not Patent Trolls

    Continued analysis, accompanied by new stories, of the patent situation and what is needed to address the increasingly recognised harms of patents



  3. British and German Governments Under Siege by Lobbyists of Microsoft and Its Local Partners, Free Software Policy Dumped in Favour of Backdoors-Enabled Binaries

    Following lobbying and perhaps intimidation or bribery, Microsoft binaries with privileged access to them (ripe for cracking by the malpractising NSA/CIA) are being put ahead of Free/libre software, despite the latter being recently mandated



  4. Links 18/6/2013: Ubuntu Linux for Phones Attracts Carriers, Nokia Might be Saved by China/Android

    Links for the day



  5. Judge Jackson Dies While Microsoft Continues to Abuse the System, This Time Using Nokia as a Front

    The abusive behaviour of Microsoft continues unabated long after Judge Jackson warned about the sociopathic management and its dangers



  6. Microsoft Dirty Tricks to Promote Xbox One Vapourware

    The hallmarks of Microsoft -- AstroTurfing, vapourware, developers disdain and interference with journalism -- found sparingly in the gaming consoles scene



  7. Microsoft is Not Done With SCO Yet

    The SCO v. IBM case is reopened, despite a glaring lack of funds, resuming the FUD against Linux



  8. Boycott Best Buy

    The company with history of hostility towards GNU/Linux is now becoming part of Microsoft



  9. Links 17/6/2013: Android's Extended Lead Over iOS, Sony Smartwatch Gets FOSS

    Links for the day



  10. IRC Proceedings: June 9th, 2013-June 15th, 2013

    IRC logs for June 9th, 2013 (and subsequent days until June 15th, 2013)



  11. Upgrading/Updating Techrights

    Server maintenance complete, making pageloads faster and the Web site more robust, hence resilient against attacks



  12. Links 15/6/2013: IBM and KVM, KDE 4.11 Beta

    Links for the day



  13. Confirmed: Microsoft Tells the NSA About Back Doors in Windows

    Official confirmation that the NSA is being notified about ways of hijacking Windows before Microsoft releases fixes



  14. Still Missing the Point of Patent Scope (Patents on Mathematics and Nature) as the Problem in the United States

    Examples of some new reports that deal with the suggested patent reform in the US and why it is misguided



  15. Germany Should Follow the 'Munich Model' and Move to Free Software After PRISM Revelations

    Despite the success story of Munich and the increasing distrust surrounding proprietary software, bureaucrats in Berlin refuse to abandon Microsoft just yet



  16. Bill Gates Looking for Profit in Privatised Oppression in the United Kingdom and Elsewhere

    Famous criminal Bill Gates pays the privatised police forces in the UK to get more profit while keeping popular movements dampened



  17. Links 14/6/2013: Linux Innovation Debated, Video of Megaupload Raid

    Links for the day



  18. As the Battle to Legitimise Software Patents in New Zealand and Europe Carries on, New Systemic Corruption Found

    A roundup of stories from battlegrounds for software patents "as such"



  19. Microsoft Talking Points Planted by Microsoft Staff in the Geek Press

    Microsoft is playing with editorial staff of Slashdot, marketing itself as a FOSS company



  20. A Big Blow to Patents on Software and Genetics in the United States, But Hardly the End

    Little progress made with policy moving in the right direction, but by no means the right and absolute solution to USPTO incompetence



  21. Microsoft Supports Apple in Fight Against Linux/Android, Pushing FRAND

    Microsoft publicly steps forward as part of Apple's war on Linux/Android, making the anti-FOSS alliance more visible than before



  22. Rape Jokes Are Not Going to Save Microsoft

    Microsoft's attempts at being "cool" are not working out and the Vista series is falling to obscurity levels



  23. Glenn Greenwald Should Copy Snowden's Leak for Wikileaks to Publish in Full in Order to Counter Denials of Microsoft et al. (Updated)

    There should be more to come from the whole PRISM/NSA-gate, but the ball is in the court of one activist/lawyer/blogger, Glenn Greenwald



  24. Links 13/6/2013: CyanogenMod Gets Incognito Mode

    Links for the day



  25. Links 12/6/2013: Linux 3.11 Previews, KDE Working in Wayland

    Links for the day



  26. CNN: Where Agenda and Lobbying Trump Facts and Justice

    Corporate propaganda channel is being used by a Microsoft lobbyist to demonise Android -- not companies that attack Android -- by essentially twisting reality



  27. Obama Administration Misuses the 'T Word' (Troll) to Dodge Serious Issues

    Failing to see how patents themselves actually distort the market for everyone (not just some large corporations), Obama wants to wash his hands with legislation that will resolve nothing and legitimise the notoriously unsupervised patent regime



  28. Links 11/6/2013: More on PRISM and Snowden, Linux Mint Increasingly Praised

    Links for the day



  29. PRISM Lite: Bill Gates and Rupert Murdoch Collecting Information About Everybody's Children

    A surveillance scheme for juniors and how it is being used to program the young generation to support patent monopolies of Bill Gates, such as GMO



  30. White House Should Go After the Trolls' Ringleaders, Not Just Patent Trolls

    Why the stance of the White House is misguided and short-sighted in an age when trolls are like mercenaries for players in conspiracies and pyramid schemes of patents


RSS 64x64RSS Feed: subscribe to the RSS feed for regular updates

Home iconSite Wiki: You can improve this site by helping the extension of the site's content

Chat iconIRC Channel: Come and chat with us in real time

Recent Posts