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Why Microsoft’s Guy Miguel de Icaza Pushes for C# at Apple, Which is Not Successful

Posted in Apple, Microsoft, Mono, Novell at 6:45 pm by Dr. Roy Schestowitz

“The best way to prepare is to write programs, and to study great programs that other people have written. In my case, I went to the garbage cans at the Computer Science Center and I fished out listings of their operating systems.”

Bill Gates

“We’ve always been shameless about stealing great ideas.”

Steve Jobs

Summary: Continued Mono lobby in Apple’s platforms; The empires of ripoff show their continued exploitation of freely-shareable and free/open source-implemented ideas

WHEN MICROSOFT MVP Miguel de Icaza is not praising Microsoft software like Silver Lie and Moon Lie (he is still at it, delivering on Microsoft’s contract/agreement with his employer) he is also promoting hypePad like it’s a badge of honour. He wants to popularise Microsoft’s C# (Java ripoff) on Apple products. That’s what he does. He promotes C# under the guise of ‘open source’ (Mono) and he is still boosting Monospace, which was organised by fellow Microsoft MVPs. It is clear what they are up to. It’s a case of assimilation (to Microsoft), which they also have a go at when it comes to Linux-powered platforms (making mobile Linux more C#-dependent). Aside from that, in Twitter (de Icaza snubs Identi.ca), he apparently defends Apple’s side and mocks GPLv3 in light of this news:

The upcoming release of Mac OS X 10.7 Lion Server will remove the formerly bundled open source Samba software and replace it with Apple’s own tools for Windows file sharing and network directory services.

One thing that Apple and Microsoft have in common is that they dislike GPLv3 and that says a lot. GPLv3 defangs software patents lovers, so those who dislike GPLv3 are often pushing for patent monopolies and software riddled with patent traps (such as Mono).

As an aside, regarding Apple, Robert Pogson explains why Apple is not a success based on grounds measured by the GNU/Linux world (freedom for example) and even market share.

Less than 2% MacOS usage in Asia, Africa and South America… Is that success?

Ballmer’s own slide shows this:

Ballmer's slide on Macs and GNU/Linux

Apple may be popular in some Western countries, but that’s about it. Linux is a major rival to Apple, especially in phones, tablets, portable gadgets, etc. Sooner or later people realise that Apple is just a badge and that Apple’s staff cannot even deal with DST properly (not even in 2011!). To quote the MSBBC:

Some iPhone owners were heading in to work late on Monday after a glitch caused their alarms to malfunction.

Users found their wake-up alert coming one hour late, one hour early or not at all.

The problem, related to the clocks going forward for British Summer Time, does not appear to have affected everyone.

Apple has yet to comment on what caused it, but similar problems have previously hit iPhones in the US.

Maybe Apple is not reusing enough Free software. A lot of Apple’s code is derived from code it merely exploited and contributed almost nothing to (Apple’s version is proprietary). Who would wish to support such a company by rewarding it for these deeds?

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  1. louissalin said,

    March 29, 2011 at 8:49 pm



    I’m one of the organizers for Monospace. Thank you for the publicity, but for the record, I’m not a Microsoft MVP and neither are the other two organizers. I do happen to be a .Net programmer by day, but I use Linux almost exclusively at home (I also have an iMac for the family.)

    If you happen to be near Boston during Monospace, I’d like to buy you a beer and pick your brains.


    Dr. Roy Schestowitz Reply:

    Come to IRC sometimes. We’d love to talk and that’s where we d most of the talking.

    Regarding Microsoft MVPs at Monospace, I don’t know about this year’s, but generally it’s usually an overlap between Microsoft people and Mono (strong correlation between the two groups).

  2. twitter said,

    March 29, 2011 at 11:49 pm


    Perhaps Microsoft will reward you for your efforts later. In the mean time, it is not clear if you missunderstand or disagree with Roy’s older research,

    Just look what they are doing. At Novell, there is now promotion of a new conference called Monospace. Details of the registrar are “protected”, so it is hard to know who initiated the Web site, but Miguel shows that it’s probably Scott Bellware, whose blog says: “I am a recipient of Microsoft’s Most Valuable Professional award.” As for the conference he seemingly sets up for Mono, its description is: “Monospace is the conference that teaches .NET software developers and organizations how to use the Mono framework to leverage investments in .NET skills on a broader array of platforms where business opportunity awaits.”

    If you would like to chat with Roy, you should visit the IRC channel.

  3. verofakto said,

    March 30, 2011 at 3:34 am


    @louissalin Stay away from that IRC thing unless you want to be insulted, attacked and then featured in the usual front page smear article by Dr. Roy.

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