Bonum Certa Men Certa

The UK Supreme Court's Latest Decision is Ammunition for the FCC to Scuttle the Unified Patent Court Agreement (UPCA)

Team UPC is, understandably, going bonkers (feeling unlucky in the face of justice)

A black cat



Summary: The quality of European Patents is appalling enough that no courts would entrust EPO people with something like the Unified Patent Court (UPC); The UK Supreme Court has proven this point yet again and we suppose that the German Constitutional Court (FCC) pays close attention not only to dirty tactics from Team UPC (trying to trick the court into premature decisions, based on fabrications)

THE European Patent Office (EPO) suffered a blow some days ago because its impotent patent on impotence treatment was smashed to pieces at one of Europe's most respected courts, the UK Supreme Court.

"They're both spoiled brats of UPC, who on behalf of large (and international/foreign) pharmaceutical giants try to pass the UPC (ratify UPCA)."Marks & Clerk's Mike Gilbert and Jonathan Stafford wrote about it before the weekend, as did the liars and crooks from Bristows LLP. They're both spoiled brats of UPC, who on behalf of large (and international/foreign) pharmaceutical giants try to pass the UPC (ratify UPCA). We'll say more about that in a moment.

Here is what patent maximalists at Managing IP [sic] wrote about it:

The UK’s highest court yesterday affirmed that a patent licensed from former biotech company Icos to Eli Lilly for the erectile dysfunction (ED) drug Cialis (tadalafil) is invalid.


A couple of new comments have also just appeared at IP Kat [1, 2], another site of patent maximalists. It's about the highest British court finding that EPO granted this bogus patent. "Here is how there is a "reasonable expectation of success"," said the first of those two comments. "When you follow the reasoning, the court decided that when carrying out trials of the drug the skilled person would have investigated the effect of 25mg, 50mg, and 100mg doses. Doing this they would have inevitably found the dosage plateau. They don't need to have expected to find the plateau or have a reasonable expectation they would find it, it was an inevitability that they would find it just by carrying out the routine trials of the drug. Having found the dosage plateau that extends over the 25mg to 100mg range there is then a reasonable expectation that the lower end of the dosage plateau might extend down to 5mg."

Notice that the so-called 'innovation' is to do with dosages. The comment continued: "There is no hindsight in this assessment just a reasonable assessment of how the trials of this, or any other, new drug would have been carried out at the priority date of the patent. Essentially, the dosing patent is just the Applicant applying to protect the inevitable outcome of the clinical trials of the drug because it is different from what was envisaged in the original patent. There is no inventive step.

Why was it even considered patent-eligible? Imagine if something like UPC was tasked or assigned to rule on this...

The second comment said: "I perfectly understand this line of reasoning, but I still can hardly adhere to it. The criterion of "reasonable expectation of success" says what it says: was it expectable for the skilled person to find the identified effect at the time of filing ?"

Why is this even considered an invention? It's more like a recipe? Are cooking recipes next in line? We gave examples to that effect a few days ago.

“Importing the research process into that reasoning is no longer inventive step, because otherwise only new research processes could remain patentable, any finding based on known research processes would simply be obvious to try, whatever the efforts.”
      --Anonymous
"Research," the comment continued, "even being made in clinical trials, remains research, i.e. exploration of the yet unidentified (and unsuggested for inventive step). If the prior art would have suggested that this drug would be active at low doses, I would then have agreed that a motivation would exist to specifically look for the lower dosages. However, even though this exploration was made in standardized clinical trials, this remained research and exploration. Moreover, the inventors have no choice but to carry out this research in clinical trials because it is performed on humans. If the product would not have been a drug, hence would not have required clinical trials, the same dose-effect experiments would have been performed to find out what doses are the most efficient. And, if I follow properly the court's reasoning (and yours), it could then have been considered inventive because there would have been no clue how the inventors had come to this finding in theri research process. For all types of inventions, the more so for inventions in the life science field in which the "resonable expectation of success" principle has been developped, my view is always the same, inventive step does not have to be assessed based on the process how to come to a certain finding, i.e. the invention, but only on the facts available, in particular what the prior art is teaching and what level of skill does the skilled person have. Importing the research process into that reasoning is no longer inventive step, because otherwise only new research processes could remain patentable, any finding based on known research processes would simply be obvious to try, whatever the efforts."

This is similar to the 'Teffgate', where some arbitrary numbers were used to attribute "innovative" aspects to what's in nature (and has been in nature since before humans even existed).

It was very much expected that Team UPC firms (like the above) would condemn or spin or just moan about this decision. Team UPC is a very dishonest bunch which only cares about litigation, not science. Wait and watch their next stunts. They lie a lot.

As an example of their lies, consider this UPC 'book' spin. It's amazing and it's only days old. The FFII's President has already responded to it with: "The complaint is secret, on which basis they gonna discuss?" (the complaint)

"It was very much expected that Team UPC firms (like the above) would condemn or spin or just moan about this decision. Team UPC is a very dishonest bunch which only cares about litigation, not science."Basically, the longtime UPC booster (going by the Twitter handle "UPCtracker") wrote: "Oxford University press and CH Beck have published the legal commentary on the UPC (Tilmann/Plassmann ed.), an event which the German constitutional complainant saw as a bad omen or indicator his UPC complaint could be denied shortly. Case still pending, however."

So we're supposed to think, yet again, that there's a decision coming soon (dismissal). How many times before have they lied along those lines? We've lost count. The tweet (reply) from the FFII's President had us investigating the merit of the statement. It's basically a lie.

In fact, the book in question, namely its German version, has still not been published. Its publisher, C. H. Beck, currently announce it for "approximately May 2019" (see their German Web page). The book mentioned in the said tweet is the English version which is sold by a different publisher (Oxford University Press) and has been on the market since late summer of 2018 (see the same Web site but a different page). Although it has a higher price, it is commercially not as interesting as the German version which will sell in much higher numbers should the UPC become a reality. Either the said UPC advocate does not understand the difference between the two books, which we doubt, or he is acting against his better judgment, trying to spin a story suiting his own interests. Stay classy, Team UPC. Stay vigilant, FCC.

Recent Techrights' Posts

The Register MS Takes More Money to Boost Slop Hype, This Time From Snyk, a Notorious FUD Source
At some stage or at some point they might even decide to stop doing so
"AI" Hype or LLM Slop is Not About Efficiency, It's About Lowering Standards
It does not seem like IBM is genuinely committed to the same goals (or commitments) as the original Red Hat
If Free/Libre Software is Adding Trillions in Value to the European Economy, Then the European Commission Must Crush Software Patents
Further to what we wrote yesterday
Over at Tux Machines...
GNU/Linux news for the past day
 
Hopping From One Set of Buzzwords to the Next
Rotating hype and vapourware
Currys PCWorld Hates GNU/Linux Even Though It Runs the World
If more and more people choose to remove Windows, then Currys PCWorld will feel the financial impact of its dumb policies
Internet Relay Chat and Gemini Protocol Help Us Relive the Net of the Dial-Up Era
The kids were alright
"GPT-5" is Another Microsoft Dead Cat Trying to Bounce
The hype, the momentum (or the inertia) is wearing off
Microsoft Windows Losing Its Grip Near Turkey and Russia
The 'corridor' nations connecting Iran to Europe
Slopwatch: LinuxSecurity, Google News, and Serial Slopper (SS)
The slop, the bad, and the ugly
Links 13/08/2025: The “Incriminating Video” Scam and Corruption in South Korea
Links for the day
Gemini Links 13/08/2025: Movie Memories and Mystery Machine Bus
Links for the day
Links 13/08/2025: GitHub Trouble and Openwashing by Microsoft OSI With the Typical Buzzwords
Links for the day
Microsoft Swallows GitHub Losses
Only Microsoft knows how much money it has already lost on GitHub
Gemini Links 13/08/2025: Climate, Coffee, and Deploying Troops in Washington DC After Pardoning 1,000+ Insurrectionists in Washington DC
Links for the day
The Register MS Lowered MS Focus This Week
We hope The Register recognises its errors and tries to make up for them
Learning Ethics From Jeffrey Epstein's Enabler/Client/Ally, Coca-Cola, and Microsoft Accenture
Whatever merits vocabulary changes initially had are being tainted or obscured by later iterations, which tell us to avoid word like "normal", which apparently offend some people (so they argue)
Personal Attacks From Rust People Serve to Confirm They Have Lost the Argument
"The discussion I find around the net so far has no technical merit and centers around ad hominem"
Physical Meters and Purely Mechanical Meters Aren't Dumb; It's Dumb to Mock or Dismiss Them as Antiquated
I've learned a lot this week, both online and over the telephone
IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, August 12, 2025
IRC logs for Tuesday, August 12, 2025
GitHub Will End Up like XBox and Skype
It is not likely that the XBox franchise will survive the next 5 years
Stones Thrown in Glass Houses
Projecting? You bet!
As Europe Gets Increasingly Serious About Software Freedom and Digital Sovereignty It Needs to Enforce a Ban on Software Patents ASAP
many councils in Europe move to Free software and US policy/companies cannot be trusted
Windows 12 in Bahrain (Microsoft "Market Share" Down to 12%, an All-Time Low)
They really ought to get away from Windows even faster
The Web Needs 'Pest Control' When It Comes to LLM Slopfarms
The goal is to discourage more sites becoming slopfarms
Microsoft Can Now Stop Reporting the GitHub Layoffs (Even When They Happen)
GitHub's original staff will see the true cost of becoming "b0rged" - something that Microsoft earned a bad reputation for
How to Get Very Bad or Even Malicious Code Into Linux? Write it in a Language That Linus Torvalds and Most Other Linux Developers Don't Understand.
One point nobody brings up is, what if code gets committed while evading audits and scrutiny?
Links 12/08/2025: Wikipedia Fails at UK High Court, Perlmutter Still Fights to Squash the Slop Lobby
Links for the day
Gemini Links 12/08/2025: Field Recording and Digital Legacy
Links for the day
Links 12/08/2025: WinRAR Zero-Day, SonicWall Does More Harm Than Good
Links for the day
Links 12/08/2025: More Sabotage of Underwater Cable Ahead of Russian Alaska Summit
Links for the day
Richard Stallman Will Not Miss Microsoft GitHub, It Was Only Good at Harvesting a Lot of Code for Plagiarism-as-a-Service
investors are apparently willing to lose money for buzzwords
Slopfarms Slopping Away at "Linux" and Spreading Microsoft Misinformation
Slopfarms don't comprehend this as they lack actual comprehension, they're just parrots
Links 12/08/2025: Science, Hardware, and Ukraine Excluded From Negotiations About Its Future
Links for the day
GitHub the Company Has, in Effect, Just Died (Time to Look for Alternatives)
To Microsoft, what's left of GitHub after dismantling/folding it is some "training set" (people's code, without permission to "train" i.e. misuse under the guise of "GenAI" plagiarism)
Linux Foundation Says "Housekeeping", "Hung", "Normal", "Native Feature/Support" and "Girl/Girls" Are Offensive Words
Bombing people is OK, just use the right "terms"
It Looks More Like Microsoft GitHub Layoffs
GitHub is just losing loads of money
Gemini Links 12/08/2025: Meditation, OpenStreetMap, Smolweb, and More
Links for the day
Google News is Dying: Most of Its Top Stories Now Are LLM Slop With Slop Images (i.e. 100% Fake 'Content')
Google News has been drowning in this sort of stuff for quite some time
Over at Tux Machines...
GNU/Linux news for the past day
IRC Proceedings: Monday, August 11, 2025
IRC logs for Monday, August 11, 2025
Our Predictions Were Right: GitHub Dying as Losses Pile Up (as a Company It Cannot Continue to Exist, It's Not 'Free Hosting')
GitHub always lost money
Links 11/08/2025: Meritless Twitter Suspensions and Disney Scraps Deepfake Dwayne Johnson
Links for the day
Gemini Links 11/08/2025: Upgrading Debian Bookworm and Better Quality PDFs From Gemini Pages
Links for the day
Currys PCWorld Lied a Decade Ago, 10 Years Later It Still Effectively Voids Your Warranty for Installing GNU/Linux Despite It Being Increasingly Mainstream
Microsoft gatekeepers
Team GNOME Has Libeled Me for Nearly 20 Years
we are not dealing with sane people
Experience With Airlines in 'Web Sites' and in 'Apps'
In a lot of ways, Stallman Was Right about what JavaScript would turn out to be
Open Does Not Mean Free
wiser to ask if some program is freedom-respecting
The Register MS Takes Money From Companies Banned by the Biden and Trump Administrations (National Security Risk)
today's sponsor
Sabotaging GNU/Linux PCs (and Users) is Not a 'Joke'
maybe cruelty is the very objective
How We Process Screenshots of Slop to Suitably Tag Them as Slop
everything is a single command
Links 11/08/2025: Data Breaches, Politics, and Climate
Links for the day
Over at Tux Machines...
GNU/Linux news for the past day
IRC Proceedings: Sunday, August 10, 2025
IRC logs for Sunday, August 10, 2025
Gemini Links 11/08/2025: Tea Caffeine Hot and Super ZZ Zero
Links for the day