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schestowitz__ | oh, don't mention this to the corporate troll | Mar 08 00:13 |
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schestowitz__ | http://techrights.org/2021/03/06/astroturfing-vs-grassroots/ | Mar 08 00:13 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Corporations Do Not Represent Communities and Activists, They Just Exploit Them, Discredit Them, and Hijack Their Hard Work | Techrights | Mar 08 00:13 | |
schestowitz__ | 瑨灴⼺琯捥牨杩瑨�牯⽧〲ㄲ〯⼳㜰是獯�数灯敬琭慲晦捩楫杮 | Mar 08 00:14 |
schestowitz__ | oops | Mar 08 00:14 |
schestowitz__ | 瑨灴⼺琯捥牨杩瑨�牯⽧〲ㄲ〯⼳㜰是獯�数灯敬琭慲晦捩楫杮 | Mar 08 00:14 |
schestowitz__ | this is a bug | Mar 08 00:14 |
schestowitz__ | in Barrier | Mar 08 00:14 |
schestowitz__ | http://techrights.org/2021/03/07/foss-people-trafficking/ | Mar 08 00:14 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | When I Discovered People Trafficking in Free/Open Source Software | Techrights | Mar 08 00:14 | |
schestowitz__ | Google again | Mar 08 00:14 |
vmg3 | chinar | Mar 08 00:14 |
schestowitz__ | nice companies, eh? | Mar 08 00:14 |
schestowitz__ | vmg3: it's a longstanding issue in Synergy as well | Mar 08 00:15 |
schestowitz__ | something about encoding | Mar 08 00:15 |
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vmg3 | like locusts they seem to grow | Mar 08 00:17 |
schestowitz__ | at least we know why the Google trolls are so eager to discredit and cancel the truth-telling elements | Mar 08 00:18 |
schestowitz__ | lots of skeletons to hide | Mar 08 00:18 |
schestowitz__ | but we'll dig deeper... | Mar 08 00:18 |
schestowitz__ | the old emails are coming back | Mar 08 00:18 |
vmg3 | big fish eat the little fish | Mar 08 00:19 |
vmg3 | you have been busy | Mar 08 00:20 |
schestowitz__ | who, me? | Mar 08 00:23 |
vmg3 | yeah, into Au events | Mar 08 00:23 |
vmg3 | Broken people, broken system. Christian Porter breaks law https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyk5ri8mU90 | Mar 08 00:24 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Christian Porter breaks law - YouTube | Mar 08 00:24 | |
schestowitz__ | curious nation | Mar 08 00:30 |
vmg3 | infiltration was a slow process, seems complete now | Mar 08 00:30 |
schestowitz__ | faking feminism | Mar 08 00:30 |
schestowitz__ | guys | Mar 08 00:30 |
schestowitz__ | like the google troll | Mar 08 00:31 |
schestowitz__ | concern trolls | Mar 08 00:31 |
vmg3 | it has ties to media, religion, money and power | Mar 08 00:31 |
schestowitz__ | crate vacuum | Mar 08 00:31 |
schestowitz__ | infiltrate | Mar 08 00:31 |
schestowitz__ | #cancelPerson | Mar 08 00:32 |
*vmg3 wonders what % of $ it should take to run and org? | Mar 08 00:32 | |
schestowitz__ | fsfe 20%+ google | Mar 08 00:32 |
schestowitz__ | for ages | Mar 08 00:32 |
schestowitz__ | google was also a top fsf sponsor for a few years | Mar 08 00:32 |
schestowitz__ | I don't know who rejected who at the end | Mar 08 00:33 |
vmg3 | trick down ecenomics | Mar 08 00:33 |
schestowitz__ | it's not impossible fsf itself decided to put an end to it | Mar 08 00:33 |
schestowitz__ | seeing what google had become | Mar 08 00:33 |
schestowitz__ | they create vacuum | Mar 08 00:33 |
schestowitz__ | like they did with RMS | Mar 08 00:33 |
schestowitz__ | while a google-funded troll pushed for it | Mar 08 00:33 |
vmg3 | even charity here has the same problem | Mar 08 00:33 |
schestowitz__ | there are corporate charities too | Mar 08 00:34 |
schestowitz__ | fake ones | Mar 08 00:34 |
schestowitz__ | like Linux Foundation | Mar 08 00:34 |
schestowitz__ | and http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gates_Foundation_Critique | Mar 08 00:34 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Gates Foundation Critique - Techrights | Mar 08 00:34 | |
vmg3 | to get the tax free status | Mar 08 00:34 |
schestowitz__ | yup | Mar 08 00:34 |
schestowitz__ | whatever they claim to have spent on something "good" is by far exceeded by the savings in tax avoidance | Mar 08 00:34 |
vmg3 | you're 3 steps ahead of me | Mar 08 00:35 |
schestowitz__ | LF does it too, and it harms the "LINUX" brand http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Linux_Foundation | Mar 08 00:35 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation - Techrights | Mar 08 00:35 | |
schestowitz__ | makes Linux seem or feel just as corrupt as anything | Mar 08 00:35 |
vmg3 | so we get pushed backwards | Mar 08 00:36 |
schestowitz__ | yup | Mar 08 00:37 |
vmg3 | on the news yesterday our health minister was singing Bills praises | Mar 08 00:37 |
schestowitz__ | the goal is to leave the community in disarray | Mar 08 00:37 |
schestowitz__ | one tactic is blackmail, others are shame tactics | Mar 08 00:37 |
vmg3 | our status quo | Mar 08 00:37 |
schestowitz__ | http://techrights.org/2021/03/05/google-funded-trolls/ | Mar 08 00:37 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Professional Troll Matthew Garrett Spreads Libel, Defamation and Slander About the Free Software Community to Entertain Microsoft and Friends | Techrights | Mar 08 00:37 | |
schestowitz__ | the corporates sometimes even convince themselves that they are a force for good | Mar 08 00:38 |
schestowitz__ | against "unruly" and "rude" grassroots | Mar 08 00:38 |
schestowitz__ | but the goal isn't to mislead themselves but the public | Mar 08 00:38 |
vmg3 | it creates cynical people | Mar 08 00:38 |
schestowitz__ | vmg3: is not, Bill can engineer his ousting | Mar 08 00:38 |
schestowitz__ | your health minister prasied a friend of child traffficking monsters | Mar 08 00:39 |
schestowitz__ | how's THAT for health | Mar 08 00:39 |
vmg3 | he did have a quick mention of not being to happy with windows | Mar 08 00:39 |
schestowitz__ | anyway, yes, cynicism is thus overdue | Mar 08 00:39 |
vmg3 | but even played that down | Mar 08 00:40 |
schestowitz__ | Aussie is a strange nation | Mar 08 00:40 |
schestowitz__ | to me | Mar 08 00:40 |
vmg3 | all the hacks are getting to em | Mar 08 00:40 |
schestowitz__ | I cannot compare it to Canada | Mar 08 00:40 |
vmg3 | and me | Mar 08 00:40 |
schestowitz__ | South Africa is also different | Mar 08 00:40 |
schestowitz__ | took me a while to understand what the media isn't telling | Mar 08 00:40 |
schestowitz__ | by meeting people from there | Mar 08 00:40 |
vmg3 | it use the word liberal but it's been butchered | Mar 08 00:40 |
schestowitz__ | liberal is a tainted word now | Mar 08 00:41 |
schestowitz__ | it's exploited by corporate elements | Mar 08 00:41 |
schestowitz__ | neo-liberal is another | Mar 08 00:41 |
schestowitz__ | so I'd rather avoid that word | Mar 08 00:41 |
schestowitz__ | too tainted to fix | Mar 08 00:41 |
vmg3 | yep | Mar 08 00:41 |
schestowitz__ | you say "I'm a liberal" | Mar 08 00:41 |
schestowitz__ | people might think, "I suppose bombing Libya" | Mar 08 00:41 |
schestowitz__ | *support | Mar 08 00:41 |
schestowitz__ | and you don't want that.. | Mar 08 00:42 |
schestowitz__ | "progressive" as a term also become a bit problematic | Mar 08 00:42 |
schestowitz__ | so best to avoid labels completely | Mar 08 00:42 |
vmg3 | yeah, I still think education systems are part of the problem | Mar 08 00:42 |
schestowitz__ | "hacker" is also a label | Mar 08 00:42 |
schestowitz__ | to many people hacker means "criminal" now | Mar 08 00:42 |
vmg3 | from getting something working to a criminal | Mar 08 00:43 |
schestowitz__ | and the communication channels too are under attack | Mar 08 00:43 |
schestowitz__ | edu system stonewalls | Mar 08 00:43 |
schestowitz__ | and opens up to moguls | Mar 08 00:43 |
schestowitz__ | and the powerful people | Mar 08 00:43 |
vmg3 | they are money machines here | Mar 08 00:43 |
schestowitz__ | so they engineer or condition people's minds early | Mar 08 00:43 |
schestowitz__ | twitter now bans unconventional posts | Mar 08 00:43 |
schestowitz__ | they egg on professional trolls | Mar 08 00:44 |
schestowitz__ | cults | Mar 08 00:44 |
schestowitz__ | even jihadists | Mar 08 00:44 |
vmg3 | I only see twitter in other sites embeded now | Mar 08 00:44 |
schestowitz__ | those are fine, that's "tolerance" | Mar 08 00:44 |
schestowitz__ | but don't go against those, that would be IN-tolerance | Mar 08 00:44 |
schestowitz__ | Twitter is falling | Mar 08 00:44 |
schestowitz__ | traffic-wise | Mar 08 00:44 |
schestowitz__ | it was a lot more influential years ago | Mar 08 00:45 |
vmg3 | I noticed this morning google sharing is a shambles. | Mar 08 00:45 |
schestowitz__ | gemini has some promise | Mar 08 00:45 |
vmg3 | all for social control | Mar 08 00:45 |
schestowitz__ | we need to cultivate and foster it a bit, though it can take time | Mar 08 00:45 |
schestowitz__ | and guard against rogue actors | Mar 08 00:45 |
vmg3 | yeah. retro trendy? | Mar 08 00:45 |
schestowitz__ | who will try to associate it with "Radical" or "Terrorist" or something.. | Mar 08 00:46 |
schestowitz__ | vmg3: it does not have to be retro | Mar 08 00:46 |
schestowitz__ | you can 'skin' it | Mar 08 00:46 |
schestowitz__ | by which I mean theming | Mar 08 00:46 |
schestowitz__ | the base itself is light and simple | Mar 08 00:46 |
vmg3 | folks like to like | Mar 08 00:46 |
schestowitz__ | TLS is not retro | Mar 08 00:46 |
schestowitz__ | IRC is not retro either | Mar 08 00:46 |
schestowitz__ | it's light and the protocols are kept simple | Mar 08 00:47 |
vmg3 | practical | Mar 08 00:47 |
schestowitz__ | this way they support even old IRC clients | Mar 08 00:47 |
schestowitz__ | rather than impose bloat and spying on users | Mar 08 00:47 |
schestowitz__ | this is why we won't be moving to Matrix | Mar 08 00:47 |
vmg3 | yeah, too many love the bloat | Mar 08 00:47 |
schestowitz__ | there are Matrix bridges for IRC anyway | Mar 08 00:47 |
schestowitz__ | fake novelty isn't a thing | Mar 08 00:47 |
schestowitz__ | bloat has a toll | Mar 08 00:47 |
schestowitz__ | entry barrier, portability, abandonware | Mar 08 00:48 |
schestowitz__ | like writing an application in a large framework that won't be around in 10-20 years | Mar 08 00:48 |
vmg3 | its part of the marketing too, upgrade or get left behind | Mar 08 00:48 |
schestowitz__ | shaming tactics | Mar 08 00:48 |
schestowitz__ | get phone version x+1 | Mar 08 00:48 |
schestowitz__ | "what will your friends think?" | Mar 08 00:48 |
schestowitz__ | BTW | Mar 08 00:48 |
schestowitz__ | Aussie media | Mar 08 00:48 |
schestowitz__ | recently mocked us | Mar 08 00:49 |
schestowitz__ | for using IRC | Mar 08 00:49 |
schestowitz__ | THis was in relation to Torvalds talking abour our revelations | Mar 08 00:49 |
vmg3 | it's not part of the machine | Mar 08 00:49 |
schestowitz__ | so they use Joomla | Mar 08 00:49 |
schestowitz__ | or Mambo (still!) | Mar 08 00:49 |
schestowitz__ | and then mock us for using IRC | Mar 08 00:49 |
schestowitz__ | while they barely maintain their truly broken site | Mar 08 00:49 |
schestowitz__ | itwire | Mar 08 00:49 |
schestowitz__ | which is down some of the time and hides behind clownflare | Mar 08 00:49 |
vmg3 | even for our views on privacy | Mar 08 00:49 |
schestowitz__ | views on privacy changed | Mar 08 00:50 |
schestowitz__ | it's no longer regarded "paranoid" to value privacy | Mar 08 00:50 |
schestowitz__ | but... | Mar 08 00:50 |
schestowitz__ | privacy-washing is rampant | Mar 08 00:50 |
schestowitz__ | for the worst offenders too | Mar 08 00:50 |
vmg3 | now they want to record ethnicity when you get a jab | Mar 08 00:50 |
schestowitz__ | so if you say I won't use $SPYINGFIRM because privacy they'll sing praises of how that company is "different" | Mar 08 00:51 |
schestowitz__ | Snowden leaks are "old news" | Mar 08 00:51 |
vmg3 | yeah | Mar 08 00:51 |
schestowitz__ | which jab? :-) | Mar 08 00:51 |
schestowitz__ | I got many jabs | Mar 08 00:51 |
vmg3 | covid | Mar 08 00:51 |
schestowitz__ | they register who gets jabs anyway | Mar 08 00:51 |
vmg3 | is the main one but i think it will carry over | Mar 08 00:51 |
schestowitz__ | so it is tied to one's identity regardless | Mar 08 00:51 |
schestowitz__ | the NHS records "ethnicity" anyway | Mar 08 00:52 |
vmg3 | I'ts like mental health here too it all goes on your Health record | Mar 08 00:52 |
vmg3 | then you get judged on that too | Mar 08 00:52 |
schestowitz__ | they put this data on Windows | Mar 08 00:52 |
schestowitz__ | and also the "clown" | Mar 08 00:52 |
vmg3 | yes | Mar 08 00:52 |
schestowitz__ | so you probably don't want to tell them much | Mar 08 00:52 |
vmg3 | already had leaks here | Mar 08 00:53 |
vmg3 | tell a doctor you dont trust their system and the treatment changes | Mar 08 00:53 |
schestowitz__ | some stuff is almost benign | Mar 08 00:53 |
vmg3 | insurance companies are part of the system | Mar 08 00:54 |
schestowitz__ | in the data sense | Mar 08 00:54 |
schestowitz__ | I've just sent an update to the NHS at work | Mar 08 00:54 |
*schestowitz__ on shift | Mar 08 00:54 | |
vmg3 | to make a claim they get full access | Mar 08 00:54 |
schestowitz__ | insurance companies are often invertly connected to the goal of health benefits | Mar 08 00:54 |
vmg3 | to get a script, you get piss tested, results recorded | Mar 08 00:55 |
schestowitz__ | if that's even a word... | Mar 08 00:55 |
schestowitz__ | their goals are almost opposite | Mar 08 00:55 |
schestowitz__ | and their business model | Mar 08 00:55 |
schestowitz__ | their surplus is your problems | Mar 08 00:55 |
vmg3 | they are in the $ buisness | Mar 08 00:55 |
schestowitz__ | https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/11/goldman-asks-is-curing-patients-a-sustainable-business-model.html | Mar 08 00:55 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnbc.com | Goldman asks: 'Is curing patients a sustainable business model?' | Mar 08 00:55 | |
schestowitz__ | the piss test isn't the big issue | Mar 08 00:55 |
schestowitz__ | depending on what's found on it | Mar 08 00:56 |
schestowitz__ | in some context, that data can be used for assassinations | Mar 08 00:56 |
vmg3 | it is if you smoke a bit of weed | Mar 08 00:56 |
schestowitz__ | e.g. allergies | Mar 08 00:56 |
schestowitz__ | but that's stretching it | Mar 08 00:56 |
vmg3 | 4 weeks + in system | Mar 08 00:56 |
schestowitz__ | as if someone wants to bring you down they don't really need your medical records | Mar 08 00:56 |
vmg3 | yeah words work | Mar 08 00:56 |
schestowitz__ | public shaming and blackmail are another issue | Mar 08 00:56 |
schestowitz__ | if you know underlying medical conditions of someone like Gates, would you publicly shame him with it? | Mar 08 00:57 |
vmg3 | just a way to get more money, not sustainable | Mar 08 00:57 |
schestowitz__ | but you should worry more if they record calls | Mar 08 00:57 |
schestowitz__ | and if you tell them very personal things | Mar 08 00:57 |
schestowitz__ | (which you should not) | Mar 08 00:57 |
vmg3 | yeah, everything is recorded here | Mar 08 00:57 |
schestowitz__ | test results of things aren't particularly interesting | Mar 08 00:57 |
schestowitz__ | the gossip around it is "interesting" | Mar 08 00:58 |
vmg3 | just driving the nail home | Mar 08 00:58 |
vmg3 | sounds wicked when a QC spruiks it in a tribunal | Mar 08 00:58 |
schestowitz__ | when you have a public health service insurance companies are less of a problem | Mar 08 00:58 |
schestowitz__ | in the US, you definitely want to separate the systems | Mar 08 00:59 |
schestowitz__ | otherwise they rip you off | Mar 08 00:59 |
vmg3 | I'd be dead | Mar 08 00:59 |
schestowitz__ | so your loss or privacy hurts you financially, directly | Mar 08 00:59 |
schestowitz__ | A lot of people still look up medical conditions on the Web | Mar 08 00:59 |
schestowitz__ | some people are really that gullible, thinking it's private | Mar 08 01:00 |
vmg3 | we were told its going to be free for the vaccine, this morning they were telling us the cost | Mar 08 01:00 |
schestowitz__ | and they literally type down what conditions they have | Mar 08 01:00 |
schestowitz__ | Google records a 'shadow medical record' | Mar 08 01:00 |
schestowitz__ | nothing is free | Mar 08 01:00 |
vmg3 | yeah, I think they profiled me | Mar 08 01:00 |
schestowitz__ | "Bill" is a big shareholder | Mar 08 01:00 |
vmg3 | it was convinent at the time to store med reports on gdrive | Mar 08 01:01 |
schestowitz__ | https://khn.org/news/rather-than-give-away-its-covid-vaccine-oxford-makes-a-deal-with-drugmaker/ | Mar 08 01:01 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-khn.org | They Pledged to Donate Rights to Their COVID Vaccine, Then Sold Them to Pharma | Kaiser Health News | Mar 08 01:01 | |
schestowitz__ | https://www.thenation.com/article/economy/bill-gates-investments-covid/ | Mar 08 01:01 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenation.com | While the Poor Get Sick, Bill Gates Just Gets Richer | The Nation | Mar 08 01:01 | |
schestowitz_log | "A few weeks later, Oxford—urged on by the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation—reversed course. It signed an exclusive vaccine deal with AstraZeneca that gave the pharmaceutical giant sole rights and no guarantee of low prices—with the less-publicized potential for Oxford to eventually make millions from the deal and win plenty of prestige." | Mar 08 01:01 |
schestowitz__ | profiteers | Mar 08 01:02 |
schestowitz__ | disguised as "charity" | Mar 08 01:02 |
vmg3 | we wont be safe until the poorest get it anyway | Mar 08 01:02 |
techrights-bot | FOSS Patents: #Apple may already have lost the strategic battle over #antitrust market definition in multiple European jurisdictions: App Store #monopoly ⇨ http://www.fosspatents.com/2021/03/apple-may-already-have-lost-strategic.html •●• #fosspatents | Mar 08 01:03 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosspatents.com | FOSS Patents: Apple may already have lost the strategic battle over antitrust market definition in multiple European jurisdictions: App Store monopoly | Mar 08 01:03 | |
techrights-bot | GOOGLE's new TRACKING method is even WORSE - What FloC is, and what it means https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GusN5EcrlCU #google #surveillance | Mar 08 01:03 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GOOGLE's new TRACKING method is even WORSE - What FloC is, and what it means - YouTube | Mar 08 01:03 | |
vmg3 | everything mutates and we suffer | Mar 08 01:03 |
techrights-bot | #Smenu : Script The Perfect Terminal Interface - YouTube ⇨ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EP-vKnhYyqQ •●• #Video #GNU #Linux | Mar 08 01:03 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Smenu: Script The Perfect Terminal Interface - YouTube | Mar 08 01:03 | |
schestowitz__ | vmg3: the poor suffer more | Mar 08 01:04 |
schestowitz__ | and it's how the rich get their "capital" | Mar 08 01:04 |
schestowitz__ | more people | Mar 08 01:04 |
schestowitz__ | more growth | Mar 08 01:04 |
schestowitz__ | more desperate people to exploit | Mar 08 01:04 |
vmg3 | I'm more interested in why we allow it | Mar 08 01:04 |
schestowitz__ | sweatshops, farmers etc. | Mar 08 01:05 |
vmg3 | it's so freaking obvious | Mar 08 01:05 |
schestowitz__ | which the oligarchs' media then demonises | Mar 08 01:05 |
schestowitz__ | with GMO they push monopolies on the crops, morever | Mar 08 01:05 |
schestowitz__ | so it's an offense to grow your own food | Mar 08 01:05 |
techrights-bot | "Back when we shipped Unity desktop as the default desktop environment in #Ubuntu , there was a simple button to take a user to their previously uploaded crash reports." https://popey.com/blog/2021/03/finding-ubuntu-crash-reports/ | Mar 08 01:05 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-popey.com | Finding Ubuntu Crash Reports - Alan Pope's blog | Mar 08 01:05 | |
vmg3 | easy to make mud of the tech details | Mar 08 01:06 |
techrights-bot | #slashdot as megaphone of #microsoft propaganda. #linux is used more than #windows but they still go along with the lie that #windows is just "a much more attractive target" https://tech.slashdot.org/story/21/03/07/2030221/a-retired-microsoft-os-engineers-comparison-of-linux-with-windows http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Slashdot | Mar 08 01:06 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tech.slashdot.org | A Retired Microsoft OS Engineer's Comparison of Linux with Windows - Slashdot | Mar 08 01:06 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Slashdot - Techrights | Mar 08 01:06 | |
techrights-bot | When I Discovered People Trafficking in Free/Open Source Software • 𝕿𝖊𝖈𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍𝖙𝖘 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/03/07/foss-people-trafficking/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/07/foss-people-trafficking/ | Mar 08 01:07 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | When I Discovered People Trafficking in Free/Open Source Software | Techrights | Mar 08 01:07 | |
schestowitz__ | vmg3: for gmo? | Mar 08 01:08 |
schestowitz__ | either way, they control much of the media | Mar 08 01:08 |
schestowitz__ | for those they cannot, they try to undermine it | Mar 08 01:08 |
schestowitz__ | but the facts are on our side | Mar 08 01:08 |
schestowitz__ | then they start censoring | Mar 08 01:08 |
schestowitz__ | and trolling | Mar 08 01:08 |
vmg3 | yeah most of our food is GM | Mar 08 01:08 |
schestowitz__ | for the patents | Mar 08 01:08 |
vmg3 | even environment changes genes | Mar 08 01:08 |
schestowitz__ | genes change all the time | Mar 08 01:09 |
schestowitz__ | for everything | Mar 08 01:09 |
vmg3 | this made me smile https://digest.bps.org.uk/2021/03/05/it-turns-out-you-can-bullshit-a-bullshitter-after-all/ | Mar 08 01:09 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-digest.bps.org.uk | It Turns Out You Can Bullshit A Bullshitter After All – Research Digest | Mar 08 01:09 | |
schestowitz__ | the question is, in which direction | Mar 08 01:09 |
schestowitz__ | evolution is like that | Mar 08 01:09 |
vmg3 | yep | Mar 08 01:09 |
schestowitz__ | anyway, we need strength in numbers | Mar 08 01:09 |
schestowitz__ | like the capsule in aussie, which will help | Mar 08 01:10 |
schestowitz__ | when we're done restoring it, I guess | Mar 08 01:10 |
schestowitz__ | I have limited capacity and we all work really hard | Mar 08 01:10 |
vmg3 | yep I just need more skills | Mar 08 01:10 |
schestowitz__ | did lots of git/code work Sunday | Mar 08 01:10 |
schestowitz__ | mostly Gemini and other tools we use and want to share | Mar 08 01:10 |
vmg3 | you have me working hard | Mar 08 01:10 |
schestowitz__ | one skill is averting subversion attempts | Mar 08 01:11 |
schestowitz__ | inc. corporate trolling | Mar 08 01:11 |
schestowitz__ | wikileaks was killed off by that | Mar 08 01:11 |
techrights-bot | #Google HR reportedly advised mental health leave in response to complaints of racist or sexist behavior https://www.theverge.com/2021/3/7/22318369/google-hr-advised-mental-health-leave-racist-sexist-behavior http://techrights.org/2021/03/06/astroturfing-vs-grassroots/ | Mar 08 01:11 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Google HR reportedly advised mental health leave in response to complaints of racist or sexist behavior - The Verge | Mar 08 01:11 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Corporations Do Not Represent Communities and Activists, They Just Exploit Them, Discredit Them, and Hijack Their Hard Work | Techrights | Mar 08 01:11 | |
vmg3 | still an ongoing thing for assange | Mar 08 01:11 |
vmg3 | the murderers are walking amoung us | Mar 08 01:12 |
vmg3 | nobody cares, or wants to care | Mar 08 01:12 |
vmg3 | tipping point is still a bit off | Mar 08 01:13 |
schestowitz__ | because Assange is (they tell us) the real criminals | Mar 08 01:14 |
vmg3 | pffft | Mar 08 01:14 |
schestowitz__ | while corporate trolls tell us so too | Mar 08 01:14 |
schestowitz__ | while calling themselves "justice warriors" | Mar 08 01:14 |
schestowitz__ | Not justice for their paymasters | Mar 08 01:14 |
schestowitz__ | who abuse whole nations | Mar 08 01:14 |
schestowitz__ | it's an old trick though | Mar 08 01:14 |
vmg3 | I watched on twitter how easy people believe the mud | Mar 08 01:15 |
Ariadne | i support pardoning assange | Mar 08 01:15 |
schestowitz__ | social control media distracts many people now | Mar 08 01:15 |
Ariadne | but i also think that he is a womanizer | Mar 08 01:15 |
schestowitz__ | they think they do activism | Mar 08 01:15 |
schestowitz__ | until FB | Mar 08 01:15 |
Ariadne | it is possible to think both things | Mar 08 01:15 |
schestowitz__ | or Twitter | Mar 08 01:15 |
schestowitz__ | bans them | Mar 08 01:15 |
schestowitz__ | for the "wrong" activism | Mar 08 01:15 |
vmg3 | Ariadne: thats what they want us to believe, IMHO | Mar 08 01:15 |
schestowitz__ | Ariadne: the priority is exposing war crimes | Mar 08 01:15 |
schestowitz__ | at the moment we have to prioritise issues | Mar 08 01:16 |
schestowitz__ | corporate crimes also | Mar 08 01:16 |
Ariadne | has assange exposed any new war crimes? | Mar 08 01:16 |
vmg3 | yeah its all part of the playbook | Mar 08 01:16 |
schestowitz__ | the whole "Sex" angle has long been used to discredit people or distract from their word | Mar 08 01:16 |
schestowitz__ | *work | Mar 08 01:16 |
schestowitz__ | and words | Mar 08 01:16 |
Ariadne | since collateral murder, wikileaks has only done the cables thing | Mar 08 01:16 |
schestowitz__ | also MLK | Mar 08 01:16 |
schestowitz__ | the sex tapes | Mar 08 01:16 |
schestowitz__ | Ariadne: nope | Mar 08 01:16 |
schestowitz__ | look at their site | Mar 08 01:16 |
schestowitz__ | lots of crime exposed | Mar 08 01:17 |
vmg3 | throw enough mud sooner or later some of it sticks | Mar 08 01:17 |
schestowitz__ | even last year | Mar 08 01:17 |
schestowitz__ | in Africa and Scandinavia | Mar 08 01:17 |
schestowitz__ | https://wikileaks.org/-Leaks-.html | Mar 08 01:17 |
Ariadne | on the front page of wikileaks the newest content i see is October 2019 | Mar 08 01:17 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wikileaks.org | WikiLeaks - Leaks | Mar 08 01:17 | |
schestowitz__ | note dates | Mar 08 01:17 |
schestowitz__ | Vault7 is still very valuable | Mar 08 01:17 |
Ariadne | on that page, December 2018 | Mar 08 01:17 |
schestowitz__ | it confirmed many things | Mar 08 01:17 |
vmg3 | yeah thats an indication that intimidation works | Mar 08 01:17 |
schestowitz__ | Ariadne: yes | Mar 08 01:17 |
schestowitz__ | Ariadne: when you kidnap a founder | Mar 08 01:18 |
schestowitz__ | that kind of messes up with a site's operatio n | Mar 08 01:18 |
Ariadne | sounds like poor management decisions | Mar 08 01:18 |
schestowitz__ | don't fault them for crimes of the state against publishers | Mar 08 01:18 |
schestowitz__ | Ariadne: again, a distraction | Mar 08 01:18 |
Ariadne | if i ran wikileaks i would have set it up so that it could continue operating | Mar 08 01:18 |
schestowitz__ | blaming the exposer | Mar 08 01:18 |
schestowitz__ | Ariadne: in techrights we now have some redundancy built in | Mar 08 01:19 |
schestowitz__ | so it relies on no single individual | Mar 08 01:19 |
vmg3 | Its a complicated issue and huge | Mar 08 01:19 |
schestowitz__ | Ariadne: you are among them :-) | Mar 08 01:19 |
schestowitz__ | we live and learn | Mar 08 01:19 |
schestowitz__ | it's also deterring against particular actions | Mar 08 01:19 |
schestowitz__ | anti-censorship done a priori means they don't bother slapping | Mar 08 01:19 |
vmg3 | the guys from piratebay warned us years ago what was coming | Mar 08 01:20 |
schestowitz__ | because the SLAPP would have little practical impact | Mar 08 01:20 |
Ariadne | anyway i do not see how accountability for bad actions done by a person is incompatible with propagating the spread of useful information | Mar 08 01:20 |
schestowitz__ | vmg3: they dealt with even more aggressive forces | Mar 08 01:20 |
schestowitz__ | Ariadne: we need truths, yes | Mar 08 01:20 |
Ariadne | the reality is assange is a womanizer and ioerror is a rapist | Mar 08 01:20 |
schestowitz__ | did you see the latest from pocock? | Mar 08 01:21 |
Ariadne | that does not subtract from their work | Mar 08 01:21 |
schestowitz__ | he spills the beans on some big companies today | Mar 08 01:21 |
vmg3 | but we talk about a slippery condom instead of murder | Mar 08 01:21 |
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schestowitz__ | it's what the media wants | Mar 08 01:21 |
schestowitz__ | MLK 'cheated on his wife" | Mar 08 01:21 |
schestowitz__ | let's ignore the oppression of black people | Mar 08 01:21 |
Ariadne | i dont think the media cares either way about ioerror being a rapist | Mar 08 01:21 |
schestowitz__ | eventually he was just killed | Mar 08 01:21 |
schestowitz__ | Ariadne: you change the subject | Mar 08 01:22 |
vmg3 | guilt by association | Mar 08 01:22 |
schestowitz__ | we did not mention ioerror | Mar 08 01:22 |
schestowitz__ | don't play into it | Mar 08 01:22 |
schestowitz__ | it's you who bring up smears | Mar 08 01:22 |
schestowitz__ | and you brought up "Sex" | Mar 08 01:22 |
schestowitz__ | as they want | Mar 08 01:22 |
schestowitz__ | that's just what trolls like to do | Mar 08 01:22 |
schestowitz__ | we talked about exposing crimes | Mar 08 01:22 |
schestowitz__ | not sex | Mar 08 01:22 |
schestowitz__ | MLK Day isn't about sex | Mar 08 01:23 |
schestowitz__ | or FBU sex tapes | Mar 08 01:23 |
schestowitz__ | makes for blackmail | Mar 08 01:23 |
schestowitz__ | *made | Mar 08 01:23 |
vmg3 | how would a intelligence re/gain trust? | Mar 08 01:23 |
techrights-bot | A Look at the Newly-Released Pardus 19.5 • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148544 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #turkey #pardus | Mar 08 01:23 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | A Look at the Newly-Released Pardus 19.5 | Tux Machines | Mar 08 01:23 | |
Ariadne | anyway | Mar 08 01:23 |
techrights-bot | The #Kubuntu Focus M2 Linux Notebook Gets Nvidia's GeForce RTX 30-Series GPUs http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148494#comment-28542 | Mar 08 01:23 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kubuntu Focus M2 Linux laptop now available with NVIDIA RTX 30x series graphics | Tux Machines | Mar 08 01:23 | |
mjg59 | schestowitz__: You've repeatedly brought up Jake as an example | Mar 08 01:23 |
techrights-bot | #Android Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148542 •●• #Google #Linux #TuxMachines | Mar 08 01:23 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Mar 08 01:23 | |
schestowitz__ | lik CrystalMath said, this is not sexrights | Mar 08 01:24 |
schestowitz__ | those who try to change the subject to sex are obviously doing this for a reason | Mar 08 01:24 |
vmg3 | brb | Mar 08 01:24 |
Ariadne | yes, accountability | Mar 08 01:24 |
schestowitz__ | bbl | Mar 08 01:24 |
Ariadne | as for pocock, that is a complicated issue | Mar 08 01:25 |
techrights-bot | #9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: March 7th, 2021 • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148543 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Mar 08 01:25 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: March 7th, 2021 | Tux Machines | Mar 08 01:25 | |
mjg59 | Pocock has engaged in a concerted campaign of harassment against various people in Debian, including impersonating other people | Mar 08 01:25 |
Ariadne | his work would be more convincing if he did not spend his time trying to ban evade debian blocks on his server | Mar 08 01:25 |
techrights-bot | Videos: Smenu, Linux Experiment, and David Revoy With Krita • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148545 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Mar 08 01:25 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Videos: Smenu, Linux Experiment, and David Revoy With Krita | Tux Machines | Mar 08 01:25 | |
Ariadne | i only bring these things up because those people are manipulating *you* and looking to use techrights reputation to bolster their own campaigns | Mar 08 01:26 |
Ariadne | when myself, ncopa, fabled and others were unhappy with debian, we went and started alpine -- we did not get banned from debian and then spend years evading moderation mechanisms designed to enforce that ban | Mar 08 01:28 |
techrights-bot | Top 25 icon themes for #Ubuntu • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148546 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Mar 08 01:29 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Top 25 icon themes for Ubuntu | Tux Machines | Mar 08 01:29 | |
techrights-bot | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148547 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Mar 08 01:29 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Mar 08 01:29 | |
techrights-bot | #Linux 5.11.4, 5.10.21, 5.4.103, 4.19.179, 4.14.224, 4.9.260, and 4.4.260 • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148548 •●• #Kernel | Mar 08 01:29 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 5.11.4, 5.10.21, 5.4.103, 4.19.179, 4.14.224, 4.9.260, and 4.4.260 | Tux Machines | Mar 08 01:29 | |
Ariadne | i will admit that the conditions under which he was banned from debian are not clear cut, but his behavior as a result of that ban has not been reconciliatory | Mar 08 01:29 |
MinceR | why worry about deadian? it's an ibm patsy now | Mar 08 01:30 |
Ariadne | instead, he has impersonated members of the debian project, threatened and harassed other members, etc | Mar 08 01:30 |
Ariadne | i don't care what debian does | Mar 08 01:30 |
MinceR | i don't care what happens to deadian | Mar 08 01:31 |
techrights-bot | "At #FOSDEM 2017, Cat Allman from the #Google Open Source [sic] Programs Office (Stephanie Taylor’s team) had a discussion with one of the men from Albania. Google offered to be a silver sponsor for #OSCAL in May 2017." • 𝕿𝖊𝖈𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍𝖙𝖘 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/03/07/foss-people-trafficking/ gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/07/foss-people-trafficking/ | Mar 08 01:31 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | When I Discovered People Trafficking in Free/Open Source Software | Techrights | Mar 08 01:31 | |
vmg3 | I've been running it for years and it's served me well. | Mar 08 01:31 |
vmg3 | the politics has little to play | Mar 08 01:32 |
MinceR | it served me well too, until it suddenly turned into a delivery vector for systemd | Mar 08 01:32 |
vmg3 | yeah looking at that myself, but my understanding is not in the code just in memory usage | Mar 08 01:33 |
Ariadne | i think the main reason why debian is low drama is because anybody with technical aspirations just goes and makes a new distro | Mar 08 01:33 |
CrystalMath | Ariadne: sometimes when you put a lot of work into something, you can be very upset to discover it was all for naught, or worse | Mar 08 01:33 |
schestowitz__ | "The Revolution (OS) WILL be Decommoditised" | Mar 08 01:34 |
Ariadne | CrystalMath: sure, i recommend therapy for mr. pocock | Mar 08 01:34 |
CrystalMath | if i had put any work into debian i'd be upset too | Mar 08 01:34 |
CrystalMath | fortunately i didn't | Mar 08 01:34 |
vmg3 | has anyone tried arozos? | Mar 08 01:34 |
schestowitz__ | and GSoC | Mar 08 01:34 |
schestowitz__ | he mentored for an evil company | Mar 08 01:34 |
Ariadne | well i put work into debian and then i went and started alpine instead | Mar 08 01:34 |
Ariadne | big woop | Mar 08 01:34 |
schestowitz__ | that commits or helps commit crimes against humanty | Mar 08 01:34 |
schestowitz__ | many people still fall for it | Mar 08 01:34 |
CrystalMath | those bastards don't deserve even the slightest bit of help | Mar 08 01:35 |
schestowitz__ | that's why we need whistleblowers | Mar 08 01:35 |
CrystalMath | debian only deserves death | Mar 08 01:35 |
Ariadne | why | Mar 08 01:35 |
schestowitz__ | The pocock article is in Planet Fedora now | Mar 08 01:35 |
schestowitz__ | i.e. IBM | Mar 08 01:35 |
CrystalMath | because they're horrible | Mar 08 01:35 |
schestowitz__ | IBM is OK with it | Mar 08 01:35 |
Ariadne | i have many friends involved in debian, to this day | Mar 08 01:35 |
superkuh | My apt has super cow powers. | Mar 08 01:35 |
schestowitz__ | btw, exposing abuse is not "harassment" | Mar 08 01:36 |
schestowitz__ | don't give woes to REAL victims of real harassment | Mar 08 01:36 |
schestowitz__ | bbl | Mar 08 01:36 |
CrystalMath | i will celebrate on the day when debian disappears | Mar 08 01:36 |
CrystalMath | once all its releases go EOL and it never does a single thing again | Mar 08 01:36 |
vmg3 | investigative work/reporting has many methods | Mar 08 01:36 |
MinceR | same | Mar 08 01:36 |
techrights-bot | "Canonical reveals long-term Ubuntu plans that you might have missed, and the "double ungood" warning from Linus this week." https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/144417/linux-action-news-179/ | Mar 08 01:37 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jupiterbroadcasting.com | Linux Action News 179 | Jupiter Broadcasting | Mar 08 01:37 | |
techrights-bot | Open Source #Security Podcast: "Josh and Kurt talk about DWF. It’s back and the intention is to have real community driven security identifiers!" https://opensourcesecurity.io/2021/03/07/episode-261-dwf-is-back-welcome-to-community-powered-cve/ | Mar 08 01:38 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensourcesecurity.io | Episode 261 – DWF is back! Welcome to community powered CVE – Open Source Security | Mar 08 01:38 | |
Ariadne | schestowitz__: exposing abuse on your own website is not harassment. evading IP bans and impersonating debian personnel to drive traffic to your website definitely is. | Mar 08 01:38 |
techrights-ipfs | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▁▆▄▄▅▃▄▃▄▃▄▆▇▄▄▅▃▃▅▃▅▆▄▅▂▂▅▄▅▆▄▅▂▄▁ avg(k/sec) 18.40 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▃█▂▂▁▂▁▂▂▂▂▂▂▁▃▁▁▂▂█▁██▂█▂▂█▂█▁▂▁ avg(k/sec) 87.45▕ swarm size (avg): 129.49 ⟲ | Mar 08 01:38 |
techrights-bot | " #Python generators are very powerful for handling operations which require large amount of memory." https://www.nbshare.io/notebook/286849692/Python-Generators/ | Mar 08 01:39 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nbshare.io | Python Generators | Mar 08 01:39 | |
techrights-bot | From buzzword to another buzzword https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQgHbHJlAjo | Mar 08 01:40 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why I Moved From Ops to DevOps (and why you might want to) - YouTube | Mar 08 01:40 | |
techrights-bot | International Women’s Day – March 8, 2021 https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2021/03/08/iwd-2021/ when will #freesw blogs also converge with veganism? | Mar 08 01:41 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.documentfoundation.org | International Women's Day - March 8, 2021 - The Document Foundation Blog | Mar 08 01:41 | |
techrights-bot | #freesw is about justice and freedom, not #monopolies (which it inherently attempts to tackle). Start rejecting ALL money from ALL monopolies if you run a Free software org. That money comes with strings attached, whether visible or not (at first). | Mar 08 01:42 |
techrights-bot | "The “nohz_full=” kernel boot parameter is the current main interface to configure full dynticks along with CPU Isolation." https://www.suse.com/c/cpu-isolation-nohz_full-part-3/ | Mar 08 01:43 |
mjg59 | Oh, so free software *is* about justice and freedom? | Mar 08 01:43 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-CPU Isolation – Nohz_full – by SUSE Labs (part 3) | SUSE Communities | Mar 08 01:43 | |
mjg59 | schestowitz__: But not about justice for Jake's victims? | Mar 08 01:45 |
techrights-bot | "At the last minute, when it was too late to change the materials and the budget, #Google decided to remove funding from this free software event" http://techrights.org/2021/03/07/foss-people-trafficking/ | Mar 08 01:45 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | When I Discovered People Trafficking in Free/Open Source Software | Techrights | Mar 08 01:45 | |
techrights-bot | "In other words, the 70-80% female:male in Chris Lamb’s comments didn’t represent empowerment, it represented deceptive practices to make women work at #OSCAL and coercive practices to prevent them sending funding requests for other events." http://techrights.org/2021/03/07/foss-people-trafficking/ | Mar 08 01:45 |
techrights-bot | "qute-gemini is a qutebrowser userscript that allows browsing Geminispace from within qutebrowser." https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/005990.html awesome stuff! That also means #gemini protocol support is now in #gnu #linux repos! | Mar 08 01:50 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | [ANN] qute-gemini 1.0.0, now sucks less | Mar 08 01:50 | |
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vmg3 | oh I like qute | Mar 08 01:53 |
techrights-bot | What really sucks about #qutebrowser (in most settings) is that it's tied to a massive #scam called #duckDuckGo ... massive scam. http://techrights.org/2020/07/02/ddg-privacy-abuser-in-disguise/ | Mar 08 01:58 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Why People Should Never Ever Use DuckDuckGo | Techrights | Mar 08 01:58 | |
techrights-bot | #duckDuckGo uses its #surveillanceCapitalism revenue to lie to you about #privacy ... same thing #mozilla does. #google | Mar 08 02:01 |
MinceR | too bad it depends on qt :> | Mar 08 02:01 |
vmg3 | but it is leaner than many of the alts | Mar 08 02:03 |
schestowitz__ | MinceR: yup | Mar 08 02:04 |
schestowitz__ | falkon also | Mar 08 02:04 |
schestowitz__ | we really need qt forked | Mar 08 02:05 |
schestowitz__ | and the forked adopted, maintained | Mar 08 02:05 |
cybrNaut | DDG has gotten worse than what that article exposes. DDG used to be hosted on Amazon, and it switched to MS Azure, which means MS can now see both the IP and the query text coming to bing, and link identity to search phrase | Mar 08 02:05 |
schestowitz__ | like libreoffice did openfoffice | Mar 08 02:05 |
MinceR | it would be easier to maintain something less bloated | Mar 08 02:05 |
craigevil | falkon, midori, eolie, netsurf | Mar 08 02:05 |
MinceR | and we practically need to fork of all of the IT industry by now | Mar 08 02:05 |
schestowitz__ | cybrNaut: oh, wow | Mar 08 02:05 |
schestowitz__ | any links about that? | Mar 08 02:05 |
cybrNaut | schestowitz__: no, i just worked it out the other day.. haven't written any articles | Mar 08 02:06 |
schestowitz__ | cybrNaut: for almost a decade DDG has felt like a Microsoft proxy | Mar 08 02:06 |
schestowitz__ | for several reasons | Mar 08 02:06 |
schestowitz__ | cybrNaut: they did use some Microsoft stuff before | Mar 08 02:06 |
schestowitz__ | didn't know if/when AWS was left | Mar 08 02:07 |
MinceR | like bìng :> | Mar 08 02:07 |
cybrNaut | note that it's speculative.. we don't know MS does that, but it seems quite possible | Mar 08 02:07 |
schestowitz__ | DDG makes me angry when I see this | Mar 08 02:07 |
schestowitz__ | liars, liars, liars | Mar 08 02:07 |
schestowitz__ | at least stop lying | Mar 08 02:07 |
schestowitz__ | mozilla annoys me less with its privacy posing | Mar 08 02:07 |
MinceR | if microshit can do something that lessens our privacy, we can be pretty sure they're doing it | Mar 08 02:07 |
schestowitz__ | while living off Google s$ | Mar 08 02:07 |
cybrNaut | and we should assume MS would not give up the chance to exploit that. It's all hinged on trust | Mar 08 02:07 |
MinceR | remember monkey boy raging about google gathering more data on people than microshit did | Mar 08 02:08 |
schestowitz__ | "google reads your mail" | Mar 08 02:08 |
schestowitz__ | Microsoft does not? | Mar 08 02:08 |
schestowitz__ | Microsoft drinks your mail -) | Mar 08 02:08 |
schestowitz__ | and sells your mail to everybody | Mar 08 02:08 |
schestowitz__ | anyway | Mar 08 02:08 |
schestowitz__ | we need to reject all those 'free' email disservices | Mar 08 02:09 |
schestowitz__ | there's no free email | Mar 08 02:09 |
schestowitz__ | nobody set up a Free Email Foundation | Mar 08 02:09 |
MinceR | maybe stop relying on email for privacy and security | Mar 08 02:09 |
schestowitz__ | a charity backed by benevolent billionaire's | Mar 08 02:09 |
schestowitz__ | MinceR: or encrypt | Mar 08 02:09 |
schestowitz__ | but then they push you out | Mar 08 02:09 |
schestowitz__ | for not being easy to monetise | Mar 08 02:09 |
schestowitz__ | "just taking up traffic!" | Mar 08 02:10 |
MinceR | sure, as long as you can be sure all correspondents will refuse to stop encrypting if messages get corrupted or stop getting through | Mar 08 02:10 |
schestowitz__ | I barely send any mail without encrypting | Mar 08 02:10 |
schestowitz__ | I use other comms methods | Mar 08 02:10 |
cybrNaut | email is just getting more and more broken. gnu.org started rejecting msgs where the FROM domain differs from the IP reverse lookup, so I can no longer email RMS using a forwarding account | Mar 08 02:10 |
schestowitz__ | the monopolies get their way | Mar 08 02:11 |
schestowitz__ | mostly microsoft, google, maybe gmx | Mar 08 02:11 |
schestowitz__ | they lock everybody else out | Mar 08 02:11 |
schestowitz__ | using "Spam" as excuse for monopoly | Mar 08 02:11 |
schestowitz__ | and then "Extending" (breaking, deviating from) protocols | Mar 08 02:11 |
schestowitz__ | surveillance sieves | Mar 08 02:12 |
schestowitz__ | they impose those on schools and colleges too | Mar 08 02:12 |
schestowitz__ | http://techrights.org/wiki/Microsoft_ELMS | Mar 08 02:12 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft ELMS - Techrights | Mar 08 02:12 | |
schestowitz__ | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/EDGI | Mar 08 02:12 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EDGI - Techrights | Mar 08 02:12 | |
schestowitz__ | agents of imperialism | Mar 08 02:12 |
schestowitz__ | by espionage | Mar 08 02:12 |
schestowitz__ | with back doors and direct access | Mar 08 02:12 |
schestowitz__ | then zemlin and other frauds shower us with labels like "confidential computing" | Mar 08 02:12 |
schestowitz__ | Surveillance is now "confidential computing" | Mar 08 02:13 |
techrights-bot | Racist #IBM goes out of its way to break #GNU #Linux for community-led projects. | Mar 08 02:13 |
MinceR | lol | Mar 08 02:14 |
MinceR | i guess zemlin believes his dick pics on his hypeCloud account are "confidential" too | Mar 08 02:14 |
schestowitz__ | they are | Mar 08 02:15 |
schestowitz__ | as long as he plays along | Mar 08 02:15 |
schestowitz__ | "it would be a shame if you criticised sponsor X and Y" | Mar 08 02:15 |
MinceR | until someone breaks into the server yet again | Mar 08 02:15 |
schestowitz__ | LF had security breaches | Mar 08 02:16 |
schestowitz__ | then again, they use Windows | Mar 08 02:16 |
schestowitz__ | on desktops | Mar 08 02:16 |
schestowitz__ | sometimes servers also | Mar 08 02:16 |
schestowitz__ | http://techrights.org/2019/07/17/we-are-the-windows-powered-linux-foundation/ | Mar 08 02:16 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation Apparently Celebrates Sysadmin Day With a Microsoft Windows Site! | Techrights | Mar 08 02:16 | |
vmg3 | DDG story even lite has js in results, sneaky bastards | Mar 08 02:16 |
schestowitz__ | http://techrights.org/2020/06/22/proprietary-iis-and-windows-foundation/ | Mar 08 02:16 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation Newsletter is Microsoft Windows and Proprietary IIS | Techrights | Mar 08 02:16 | |
schestowitz__ | LF is corporate corruption exemplified | Mar 08 02:16 |
vmg3 | all the wells are poisoned | Mar 08 02:21 |
schestowitz__ | whatever remains... is in the TODO list | Mar 08 02:22 |
schestowitz__ | I hear from people who are being targeted | Mar 08 02:22 |
schestowitz__ | intimidated and smeared | Mar 08 02:23 |
schestowitz__ | for speaking out | Mar 08 02:23 |
schestowitz__ | about what's going on | Mar 08 02:23 |
schestowitz__ | it's an anti-community purge | Mar 08 02:23 |
schestowitz__ | and they have the money on their side, not the facts | Mar 08 02:23 |
schestowitz__ | the modus operandi is more or less known by now | Mar 08 02:23 |
vmg3 | :< | Mar 08 02:23 |
schestowitz__ | anyway, we need more people involved | Mar 08 02:23 |
schestowitz__ | and contributing at feasible levels | Mar 08 02:24 |
schestowitz__ | coding, hosting, art | Mar 08 02:24 |
schestowitz__ | we have a skilled volunteer who is an artist and she does great stuff for us | Mar 08 02:24 |
vmg3 | I saw a ransomware attack that got people to join a chat | Mar 08 02:24 |
schestowitz__ | ransomware is often a Windows problem | Mar 08 02:24 |
schestowitz__ | and it killed many people | Mar 08 02:24 |
schestowitz__ | http://techrights.org/2020/06/09/windows-disaster-zones/ | Mar 08 02:25 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Index of the Series About Windows Inside Hospitals (Causing Hospitals to Become Disaster Zones) | Techrights | Mar 08 02:25 | |
vmg3 | https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/new-ransomware-only-decrypts-victims-who-join-their-discord-server/ | Mar 08 02:25 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bleepingcomputer.com | New ransomware only decrypts victims who join their Discord server | Mar 08 02:25 | |
schestowitz__ | this is a Microsoft propaganda site | Mar 08 02:26 |
schestowitz__ | so be wary | Mar 08 02:26 |
schestowitz__ | they never mention the Microsoft culpability | Mar 08 02:26 |
vmg3 | it has the ad's for sure | Mar 08 02:26 |
schestowitz__ | I'd avoid linking to that if possible | Mar 08 02:26 |
schestowitz__ | they also deflected the other day, as noted in our video, from Microsoft | Mar 08 02:26 |
schestowitz__ | you mentioned it earlier | Mar 08 02:26 |
schestowitz__ | Blaming on "Amazon" or "Lyft" | Mar 08 02:27 |
schestowitz__ | Microsoft serving malware | Mar 08 02:27 |
schestowitz__ | and sometimes even putting "Linux" in the headline | Mar 08 02:27 |
schestowitz__ | when in fact that's just Microsoft pushing malware to Linux machines | Mar 08 02:27 |
schestowitz__ | pure propaganda | Mar 08 02:27 |
schestowitz__ | and now they also blame "China" | Mar 08 02:27 |
vmg3 | yeah its hard to escape | Mar 08 02:27 |
schestowitz__ | truly nasty company | Mar 08 02:27 |
schestowitz__ | and many people fall for the spin | Mar 08 02:27 |
schestowitz__ | because the corrupt (bribed) media plays along with the false narratives | Mar 08 02:28 |
schestowitz__ | http://techrights.org/2021/03/03/microsoft-blame-shifting-tactics/ | Mar 08 02:28 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Weaponises (and Further Spreads) Racism to Distract From Its Own Incompetence (and ‘Five Eyes’ Collusion for Back Door Access) | Techrights | Mar 08 02:28 | |
schestowitz__ | https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/malicious-npm-packages-target-amazon-slack-with-new-dependency-attacks/ | Mar 08 02:28 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bleepingcomputer.com | Malicious NPM packages target Amazon, Slack with new dependency attacks | Mar 08 02:28 | |
schestowitz__ | same propahanda site | Mar 08 02:28 |
schestowitz__ | let's blame Microsoft rivals | Mar 08 02:28 |
schestowitz__ | for Microsoft pushing malware to their servers | Mar 08 02:28 |
vmg3 | they like to drop names to deflect | Mar 08 02:29 |
schestowitz__ | yup | Mar 08 02:29 |
schestowitz__ | wow, the qutebrowser experience is awful | Mar 08 02:29 |
schestowitz__ | not just the ui | Mar 08 02:30 |
vmg3 | "Discord commonly used by threat actors" | Mar 08 02:30 |
schestowitz__ | but also DDG by default | Mar 08 02:30 |
schestowitz__ | on debian buster at least | Mar 08 02:30 |
schestowitz__ | and it's almost impossible to change unless you know what you're doing | Mar 08 02:30 |
schestowitz__ | so, to me at least, it feels like malware | Mar 08 02:30 |
schestowitz__ | launch software | Mar 08 02:30 |
schestowitz__ | enter something into the box | Mar 08 02:30 |
schestowitz__ | and you have been keylogged by spying firm | Mar 08 02:30 |
MinceR | afaict qutebrowser is designed for people who know what they're doing | Mar 08 02:30 |
vmg3 | yeah now I'm parinoid about everything | Mar 08 02:30 |
schestowitz__ | startpage also | Mar 08 02:31 |
schestowitz__ | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Startpage | Mar 08 02:31 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Startpage - Techrights | Mar 08 02:31 | |
schestowitz__ | some people STILL recommend this crap | Mar 08 02:31 |
schestowitz__ | in SPITE of what is known for a fact | Mar 08 02:31 |
schestowitz__ | money talks | Mar 08 02:31 |
schestowitz__ | surveillance has money | Mar 08 02:31 |
schestowitz__ | manipulating people... that's where the money is | Mar 08 02:31 |
schestowitz__ | people have money | Mar 08 02:31 |
schestowitz__ | by manipulating them you control where their money goes | Mar 08 02:31 |
schestowitz__ | manipulation includes blackmail | Mar 08 02:32 |
schestowitz__ | hush money | Mar 08 02:32 |
schestowitz__ | like Google paying people to hide the sex scandals | Mar 08 02:32 |
schestowitz__ | or paying trolls | Mar 08 02:32 |
schestowitz__ | to bring up "sex" each time people talk about back doors, privacy etc. | Mar 08 02:32 |
schestowitz__ | anyway, Startpage is liars | Mar 08 02:32 |
schestowitz__ | like DDG | Mar 08 02:32 |
schestowitz__ | there's "no money" in private search | Mar 08 02:33 |
schestowitz__ | same for email | Mar 08 02:33 |
schestowitz__ | people may one day accept there's no "free stuff" | Mar 08 02:33 |
schestowitz__ | twitter and FB are not free either | Mar 08 02:33 |
schestowitz__ | they can tolerate the "users" as long as the customers (advertisers) do | Mar 08 02:33 |
schestowitz__ | OK, IRC logs time | Mar 08 02:34 |
vmg3 | free like prison | Mar 08 02:34 |
schestowitz__ | free food :) | Mar 08 02:34 |
schestowitz__ | free bed | Mar 08 02:34 |
schestowitz__ | sometimes even free healthcare | Mar 08 02:34 |
schestowitz__ | YOU. Are. FREE! | Mar 08 02:34 |
schestowitz__ | "Everything is free here!" | Mar 08 02:34 |
vmg3 | free thought | Mar 08 02:34 |
schestowitz__ | "work liberates" | Mar 08 02:34 |
schestowitz__ | slavery is free | Mar 08 02:35 |
schestowitz__ | I'm free in exchange for my labour | Mar 08 02:35 |
schestowitz__ | I get free time | Mar 08 02:35 |
schestowitz__ | when I sleep... | Mar 08 02:35 |
vmg3 | here's your token | Mar 08 02:35 |
schestowitz__ | [02:34] <vmg3> free thought | Mar 08 02:35 |
schestowitz__ | as long as not aloud | Mar 08 02:35 |
schestowitz__ | then they say "free speech" is violence | Mar 08 02:36 |
vmg3 | yeah, even that gets manipulated | Mar 08 02:36 |
schestowitz__ | "too much speech" | Mar 08 02:36 |
schestowitz__ | mixing it with threats and plotting to harm, | Mar 08 02:36 |
techrights-bot | *** 𝐈 𝐑 𝐂 𝐋 𝐈 𝐍 𝐊 𝐒 *** Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-070321.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-070321.txt Read the log now... | Mar 08 02:36 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell-social @ FreeNode: Sunday, March 07, 2021 | Mar 08 02:36 | |
schestowitz__ | which aren;t speech | Mar 08 02:36 |
schestowitz__ | they can be expressed in words | Mar 08 02:36 |
schestowitz__ | but aren't a speech | Mar 08 02:36 |
schestowitz__ | like saying "war is speech" | Mar 08 02:36 |
schestowitz__ | "we express our freedom of expression with artillery" | Mar 08 02:37 |
vmg3 | expressing a desire for change can be dangerous | Mar 08 02:37 |
schestowitz__ | in china | Mar 08 02:37 |
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schestowitz__ | but even here, now... | Mar 08 02:37 |
schestowitz__ | real change | Mar 08 02:38 |
schestowitz__ | not BS change | Mar 08 02:38 |
schestowitz__ | not "limousine 'activists'" | Mar 08 02:38 |
vmg3 | the left wing and right wing are part of the same bird they say | Mar 08 02:38 |
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schestowitz__ | no, there's the Aussie left | Mar 08 02:38 |
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schestowitz__ | they call themselves Green Left | Mar 08 02:38 |
vmg3 | left right out | Mar 08 02:38 |
schestowitz__ | they're the left | Mar 08 02:38 |
schestowitz__ | not labour | Mar 08 02:38 |
vmg3 | no they vote with the right | Mar 08 02:39 |
schestowitz__ | hmm... | Mar 08 02:39 |
schestowitz__ | maybe derailed, too | Mar 08 02:39 |
schestowitz__ | or maybe you mean labour | Mar 08 02:39 |
vmg3 | can you be an environmentalis and live in the big city? | Mar 08 02:39 |
schestowitz__ | [13:04] <techrights-bot> ● NEWS ● #CommonDreams #Politics ☞ 119 Democrats Join With #GOP to Block Restoration of #VotingRights for Incarcerated People https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/03/02/119-democrats-join-gop-block-restoration-voting-rights-incarcerated-people | Mar 08 02:39 |
techrights-bot | *** 𝐈 𝐑 𝐂 𝐋 𝐈 𝐍 𝐊 𝐒 *** Yesterday's #techbytes IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-070321.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-070321.txt Read the log now... | Mar 08 02:39 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | 119 Democrats Join With GOP to Block Restoration of Voting Rights for Incarcerated People | Common Dreams News | Mar 08 02:39 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techbytes @ FreeNode: Sunday, March 07, 2021 | Mar 08 02:39 | |
vmg3 | thats where all the greens reside | Mar 08 02:39 |
schestowitz__ | [08:43] <techrights-bot> ● NEWS ● #TruthOut ☞ Eight Democrats Joined #GOP to Vote Down Sanders's $15 #MinimumWage Amendment https://truthout.org/articles/eight-democrats-joined-gop-to-vote-down-sanderss-15-minimum-wage-amendment/ | Mar 08 02:39 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Eight Democrats Joined GOP to Vote Down Sanders's $15 Minimum Wage Amendment | Mar 08 02:39 | |
schestowitz__ | fake left | Mar 08 02:39 |
schestowitz__ | "Fake" for Wall Street... 'left' [08:43] <techrights-bot> ● NEWS ● #TruthOut ☞ Eight Democrats Joined #GOP to Vote Down Sanders's $15 #MinimumWage Amendment https://truthout.org/articles/eight-democrats-joined-gop-to-vote-down-sanderss-15-minimum-wage-amendment/ | Mar 08 02:40 |
vmg3 | our political system is pretty shit | Mar 08 02:40 |
MinceR | indeed | Mar 08 02:40 |
schestowitz__ | vmg3: big cities can limit the harm tgo nature | Mar 08 02:40 |
techrights-bot | *** 𝐁𝐔𝐋𝐋𝐄𝐓𝐈𝐍 *** Yesterday's bulletin ready. http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2021-03-07.txt | Mar 08 02:40 |
schestowitz__ | if you scatter millions around the woods, the nature is harmed even more | Mar 08 02:40 |
vmg3 | yeah but balance has never been part of human nature | Mar 08 02:41 |
MinceR | humans shouldn't reproduce so much | Mar 08 02:41 |
vmg3 | we're extreme | Mar 08 02:41 |
vmg3 | even the so called center lurches | Mar 08 02:42 |
schestowitz__ | MinceR: say people who make lots of kids | Mar 08 02:42 |
MinceR | i say so and i don't make any kods | Mar 08 02:42 |
MinceR | s/od/id/ | Mar 08 02:42 |
schestowitz__ | techrights.org/2020/01/26/advocates-of-population-control/ | Mar 08 02:43 |
schestowitz__ | http:/techrights.org/2020/01/26/advocates-of-population-control/ | Mar 08 02:43 |
schestowitz__ | http://techrights.org/2020/01/26/advocates-of-population-control/ | Mar 08 02:43 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Opinion: If You Advocate Population Control and You Are Yourself Doubling in One Single Generation, Then You Might be Hypocritical | Techrights | Mar 08 02:43 | |
schestowitz__ | stupid firefox | Mar 08 02:43 |
schestowitz__ | stripping off the protocols | Mar 08 02:43 |
schestowitz__ | funded by Google, acting like Google | Mar 08 02:43 |
schestowitz__ | repossessing protocols | Mar 08 02:43 |
vmg3 | turn js off in DDG and it wants you to go to surveymonkeydotcom | Mar 08 02:44 |
*jpli (~quassel@2806:106e:24:19b4::1) has joined #techrights | Mar 08 02:45 | |
vmg3 | no search | Mar 08 02:45 |
schestowitz__ | lol | Mar 08 02:45 |
schestowitz__ | DDG is a scam | Mar 08 02:45 |
schestowitz__ | has been since the very start | Mar 08 02:45 |
schestowitz__ | but they spent their earnings lying about it | Mar 08 02:46 |
gry | vmg3: what URL did you visit? | Mar 08 02:46 |
schestowitz__ | lots of people, even in the gnu linux, not only fell for but also perpetuated this scam | Mar 08 02:46 |
vmg3 | but they have a browser plug to tell you what's safe OMG | Mar 08 02:46 |
schestowitz__ | we have fake privacy | Mar 08 02:46 |
schestowitz__ | fake security | Mar 08 02:46 |
schestowitz__ | http://techrights.org/2021/01/30/fake-security/ | Mar 08 02:47 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Fake Security is Still a Real Problem, Even in the GNU/Linux (and BSD) Spheres | Techrights | Mar 08 02:47 | |
schestowitz__ | even fake free | Mar 08 02:47 |
schestowitz__ | like 'free' RHEL* | Mar 08 02:47 |
schestowitz__ | ____ | Mar 08 02:47 |
schestowitz__ | until you hit the freemium limits | Mar 08 02:47 |
vmg3 | gry just went to ddg and it shows in my address bar | Mar 08 02:47 |
schestowitz__ | then IBM charges a huge amount per processor, like Microsoft does | Mar 08 02:47 |
gry | vmg3: what url? | Mar 08 02:47 |
schestowitz__ | we also have fake activism | Mar 08 02:48 |
schestowitz__ | and fake charities | Mar 08 02:48 |
vmg3 | just went to ddg and turned off js with no script | Mar 08 02:48 |
schestowitz__ | controlled by those who fight both activism and altruism | Mar 08 02:48 |
vmg3 | so i gather i already took the survey | Mar 08 02:48 |
vmg3 | hmm now it's not doing it | Mar 08 02:49 |
vmg3 | it was the main site | Mar 08 02:50 |
vmg3 | i removed the privacy plugin | Mar 08 02:50 |
vmg3 | maybe that did it | Mar 08 02:50 |
vmg3 | from firefox | Mar 08 02:50 |
schestowitz__ | "privacy plugin" | Mar 08 02:51 |
schestowitz__ | Sounds like design issue | Mar 08 02:51 |
schestowitz__ | software that respects your privacy does not need plugins | Mar 08 02:51 |
schestowitz__ | just as OS without back doors may not need AV software | Mar 08 02:51 |
vmg3 | yeah I never really paid much attention to it | Mar 08 02:51 |
vmg3 | books are looking good | Mar 08 02:52 |
schestowitz__ | the latter often introduces yet more back doors or security issues (like the firm itself getting crazy access levels) | Mar 08 02:52 |
schestowitz__ | people become accustomed to buying things | Mar 08 02:52 |
schestowitz__ | like "Security" | Mar 08 02:52 |
schestowitz__ | or "privacy" | Mar 08 02:52 |
schestowitz__ | you don't need to BUY those things | Mar 08 02:52 |
schestowitz__ | but rely on conditions that ensure them | Mar 08 02:52 |
vmg3 | wish i got screenshot | Mar 08 02:52 |
schestowitz__ | like face-to-face chat | Mar 08 02:53 |
techrights-bot | #Programming Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148549 | Mar 08 02:53 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines | Mar 08 02:53 | |
vmg3 | schestowitz__: like zoom | Mar 08 02:54 |
schestowitz__ | ha | Mar 08 02:55 |
schestowitz__ | zoom on what? | Mar 08 02:55 |
schestowitz__ | zoom(r) | Mar 08 02:56 |
vmg3 | face to face | Mar 08 02:56 |
vmg3 | bad joke | Mar 08 02:56 |
schestowitz__ | with FBI back doors | Mar 08 02:56 |
vmg3 | i've got heaps of em | Mar 08 02:56 |
schestowitz__ | they change for "privacy" | Mar 08 02:56 |
schestowitz__ | and even then it is fake privacy | Mar 08 02:56 |
vmg3 | yeah i reinstalled it and it did it again | Mar 08 02:56 |
vmg3 | same result | Mar 08 02:57 |
techrights-bot | #AlpineLinux Review: Ultimate Distro for Power Users • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148550 | Mar 08 02:57 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Alpine Linux Review: Ultimate Distro for Power Users | Tux Machines | Mar 08 02:57 | |
schestowitz__ | Ariadne: ^ | Mar 08 02:57 |
schestowitz__ | just in | Mar 08 02:57 |
schestowitz__ | mins ago | Mar 08 02:57 |
schestowitz__ | vmg3: maybe wrong choices | Mar 08 02:57 |
schestowitz__ | brb coffee | Mar 08 02:58 |
schestowitz__ | I want to code some things tonight | Mar 08 02:58 |
vmg3 | yeah I'm heading out to get some fresh air | Mar 08 02:58 |
vmg3 | o/ | Mar 08 02:58 |
MinceR | \o | Mar 08 02:59 |
vmg3 | this is the plugin for ffox https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/duckduckgo-for-firefox/ it's when you remove it without js | Mar 08 03:01 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-addons.mozilla.org | DuckDuckGo Privacy Essentials – Get this Extension for 🦊 Firefox (en-US) | Mar 08 03:01 | |
techrights-ipfs | IPFS local node stats TotalIn: 5.7 MB TotalOut: 2.1 MB | Mar 08 03:01 |
techrights-ipfs | New bulletin just generated and added to IPFS with CID: | Mar 08 03:01 |
techrights-ipfs | QmbwY85pQ1AiuwtWfdbNfv9gxDga5UyiXJrZ1QHd6hbsj7 | Mar 08 03:02 |
schestowitz__ | does anyone here know firefox very well? | Mar 08 03:03 |
schestowitz__ | I can't figure out how to force it to log in when there's a new session | Mar 08 03:03 |
schestowitz__ | to log into something that requires logging in | Mar 08 03:03 |
schestowitz__ | without user intervention | Mar 08 03:03 |
vmg3 | ugh you need a ff account | Mar 08 03:03 |
schestowitz__ | :-o | Mar 08 03:04 |
schestowitz__ | account? | Mar 08 03:04 |
schestowitz__ | browsers that need account | Mar 08 03:04 |
vmg3 | sync passwords etc, I don't advise it like chrome | Mar 08 03:04 |
schestowitz__ | 'sync' | Mar 08 03:05 |
schestowitz__ | means GIVE | Mar 08 03:05 |
cybrNaut | I have a script that supplies my creds and gets a cookie, but I've not taken the time to work out how to format the cookie and hand it off to Firefox | Mar 08 03:05 |
schestowitz__ | I don't give my passwords to Google-funded Mozilla | Mar 08 03:05 |
vmg3 | it's free | Mar 08 03:05 |
MinceR | loose lyps sync shyps | Mar 08 03:05 |
vmg3 | i gotta go | Mar 08 03:05 |
schestowitz__ | kk | Mar 08 03:05 |
schestowitz__ | I also use netsurf on that pc but not for much | Mar 08 03:06 |
schestowitz__ | it's very limited in today's fake 'web' | Mar 08 03:06 |
schestowitz__ | with 'webapps | Mar 08 03:06 |
schestowitz__ | techrights works ok | Mar 08 03:06 |
schestowitz__ | anyway, some sites leave you logged in | Mar 08 03:06 |
schestowitz__ | some do not | Mar 08 03:07 |
schestowitz__ | https://support.mozilla.org/bm/questions/1269788 | Mar 08 03:07 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-support.mozilla.org | Firefox won't stay signed in (I have to login every time I open the browser, and my previous session is lost) - how can I fix this? | Firefox Support Forum | Mozilla Support | Mar 08 03:07 | |
schestowitz__ | "Firefox uses the Password Manager to store the credentials of the Firefox Sync account (chrome://FirefoxAccounts) to make it possible to connect to Sync each time you start Firefox without the need to enter email and password. If you use the master password then you need to enter the MP every time you start Firefox. If you are asked to login again to Sync then this means that the Sync credential data isn't stored properly in the | Mar 08 03:08 |
schestowitz__ | Password Manager." | Mar 08 03:08 |
schestowitz__ | Password Manager. | Mar 08 03:08 |
schestowitz__ | who's the manager? | Mar 08 03:08 |
schestowitz__ | who's my master? | Mar 08 03:08 |
schestowitz__ | Mozilla/Google? | Mar 08 03:08 |
techrights-bot | #mozilla #firefox is increasingly becoming worse than a #surveillance tool disguised as "browser". It's also an #espionage tool looking to harvest passwords etc. Avoid. | Mar 08 03:10 |
schestowitz__ | "Attempted each of the remedies above, and Firefox still will not stay signed in. Even if I just close the window, opening it up will demand another sign in, suggesting I sync and install firefox on my phone, though I have done all of these moments ago. What is wrong with Firefox?" | Mar 08 03:11 |
schestowitz__ | "What is wrong with Firefox?" | Mar 08 03:11 |
schestowitz__ | oh, where to start... | Mar 08 03:11 |
cybrNaut | i stopped using browser's built-in password managers a long time ago.. hard to beleive what i'm hearing (that they now put the credentials in the cloud). It used to be that only plugins would do that, and built-in pw stores used local storage | Mar 08 03:11 |
cybrNaut | so local storage is no longer an option for FF? | Mar 08 03:11 |
cybrNaut | i'm looking at it now... seems syncing to the cloud is optional | Mar 08 03:14 |
cybrNaut | "about:logins" | Mar 08 03:14 |
cybrNaut | my version is old though | Mar 08 03:15 |
techrights-bot | Since Firefox version 76, #mozilla has had #firefox phone home, by default, with information about what login details you enter. And if you aren't worried about Mozilla #privacy violations, remember they're funded by #google (NSA). | Mar 08 03:18 |
schestowitz__ | cybrNaut: sort of | Mar 08 03:18 |
schestowitz__ | see above | Mar 08 03:18 |
schestowitz__ | Firefox has 'telemetry' | Mar 08 03:18 |
schestowitz__ | this one they call "Lockwise" | Mar 08 03:18 |
schestowitz__ | and "Monitor" | Mar 08 03:19 |
schestowitz__ | they monitor you | Mar 08 03:19 |
schestowitz__ | for your own protection, of course! | Mar 08 03:19 |
DaemonFC[m] | Normandy | Mar 08 03:19 |
schestowitz__ | NetSurf lacks the JS I need | Mar 08 03:19 |
DaemonFC[m] | They can install things into your browser behind the scenes and change settings. | Mar 08 03:19 |
schestowitz__ | So it would not work with what I need | Mar 08 03:19 |
schestowitz__ | DaemonFC[m]: wordpress became similar to that with autoupdates | Mar 08 03:19 |
schestowitz__ | just waiting for the 'gaffe' to happen | Mar 08 03:19 |
schestowitz__ | when some "rogue player" will be "done" by that | Mar 08 03:20 |
schestowitz__ | like police using robotic explosive on wheel | Mar 08 03:20 |
DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz__: Browsers need to go back to a major version every several years. | Mar 08 03:20 |
schestowitz__ | to 'drone-strike' a suspect | Mar 08 03:20 |
schestowitz__ | DaemonFC[m]: they go the opposite way | Mar 08 03:20 |
DaemonFC[m] | You don't need new features all the time. This is nuts. | Mar 08 03:20 |
schestowitz__ | days ago Google said chrom* would be released every 4 weeks | Mar 08 03:20 |
schestowitz__ | instead of 6 | Mar 08 03:21 |
schestowitz__ | to keep forkers and branchers on their heels | Mar 08 03:21 |
schestowitz__ | systemd does the same | Mar 08 03:21 |
DaemonFC[m] | Go fast and break stuff. | Mar 08 03:21 |
schestowitz__ | bloated piece of crap vomited out on github every few weeks | Mar 08 03:21 |
schestowitz__ | only ibm can keep up | Mar 08 03:21 |
DaemonFC[m] | Yes, Google is clearly not happy with Brave. | Mar 08 03:21 |
DaemonFC[m] | Maybe mjg59 can confirm. | Mar 08 03:22 |
DaemonFC[m] | He was cashing Google paychecks up until a couple of weeks ago. | Mar 08 03:22 |
schestowitz__ | now he feels like he can troll | Mar 08 03:22 |
schestowitz__ | without liability | Mar 08 03:22 |
schestowitz__ | like he never got paid by them | Mar 08 03:22 |
schestowitz__ | but anyway, pure troll | Mar 08 03:22 |
schestowitz__ | people wrote to me yesterday | Mar 08 03:22 |
schestowitz__ | to alert me he was 100% trolling | Mar 08 03:23 |
schestowitz__ | and has no purpose here in IRC other than trolling | Mar 08 03:23 |
schestowitz__ | THIS CHANNEL IS THE ONLY IRC/FREENODE channel he is in | Mar 08 03:23 |
schestowitz__ | just revealing of his agenda | Mar 08 03:23 |
schestowitz__ | pure scum of a 'person' | Mar 08 03:23 |
schestowitz__ | disposable corporate shill for NSA and Partners | Mar 08 03:23 |
schestowitz__ | posers and charlatans posing as 'security' and 'activists' | Mar 08 03:24 |
schestowitz__ | while attacking BOTGH | Mar 08 03:24 |
schestowitz__ | anyway, back on topic... | Mar 08 03:24 |
mjg59 | 03:23 < schestowitz__> THIS CHANNEL IS THE ONLY IRC/FREENODE channel he is in | Mar 08 03:24 |
schestowitz__ | DaemonFC[m]: any way to make Firefox remember session? | Mar 08 03:24 |
mjg59 | Literally untrue | Mar 08 03:24 |
schestowitz__ | It's hard to use Firefox like this | Mar 08 03:24 |
schestowitz__ | I mean, it would never want to keep a session live after closing a session | Mar 08 03:25 |
schestowitz__ | or firefox session | Mar 08 03:25 |
schestowitz__ | not session per se | Mar 08 03:25 |
schestowitz__ | this was not always like that | Mar 08 03:25 |
mjg59 | schestowitz__: Why do you keep making demonstrably factually inaccurate claims about me? | Mar 08 03:25 |
schestowitz__ | [03:25] [Whois] mjg59 is a user on channels: #techrights | Mar 08 03:25 |
schestowitz__ | unless you hide | Mar 08 03:25 |
schestowitz__ | anyway, back on topic | Mar 08 03:25 |
schestowitz__ | until the troll brings up "FART" or "SEX" | Mar 08 03:26 |
schestowitz__ | firefox is really awful | Mar 08 03:26 |
schestowitz__ | it got a lot worse | Mar 08 03:26 |
mjg59 | schestowitz__: /whois schestowitz__ tells me that you're only on #techrights | Mar 08 03:26 |
schestowitz__ | it was even better in version 2.0 | Mar 08 03:26 |
schestowitz__ | lots of plugins and stuff | Mar 08 03:26 |
schestowitz__ | maybe I can find a workaround without closing firefox | Mar 08 03:26 |
schestowitz__ | but they castrated their CLI options | Mar 08 03:27 |
schestowitz__ | they literally removed options | Mar 08 03:27 |
schestowitz__ | must be some "UX" 'guru' | Mar 08 03:27 |
schestowitz__ | https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1097453 | Mar 08 03:27 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-support.mozilla.org | won't keep me logged in | Firefox Support Forum | Mozilla Support | Mar 08 03:27 | |
schestowitz__ | maybe other people report the same issue | Mar 08 03:27 |
schestowitz__ | https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1227940 | Mar 08 03:28 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-support.mozilla.org | browser won't keep me signed in | Firefox Support Forum | Mozilla Support | Mar 08 03:28 | |
schestowitz__ | all from recent years | Mar 08 03:28 |
schestowitz__ | what has mozilla done to firefox? | Mar 08 03:28 |
mjg59 | schestowitz__: Freenode's behaviour for user mode +i is to only show you the channels you share with someone else | Mar 08 03:28 |
mjg59 | schestowitz__: I'm on other channels on Freenode, but because this is the only one we're both in it's the only one you can see me in from whois | Mar 08 03:28 |
DaemonFC[m] | <schestowitz__ "what has mozilla done to firefox"> Patch it up barely enough to work. | Mar 08 03:32 |
DaemonFC[m] | It's rotting inside. | Mar 08 03:32 |
schestowitz__ | yeah | Mar 08 03:33 |
schestowitz__ | I followed the suggestions made there | Mar 08 03:33 |
schestowitz__ | still did not work | Mar 08 03:33 |
schestowitz__ | sometimes along the lines of discarding cookies about login status | Mar 08 03:33 |
DaemonFC[m] | Many sites have major problems. Firefox refused to put a workaround for my bank in. | Mar 08 03:33 |
schestowitz__ | :/ | Mar 08 03:33 |
DaemonFC[m] | Letting their "evangelism" email go to a dead end. | Mar 08 03:33 |
schestowitz__ | we need to get off the web where it is doable (some sites and use cases) | Mar 08 03:33 |
DaemonFC[m] | Something similar happened with Facebook for a while. | Mar 08 03:34 |
DaemonFC[m] | For two years, Facebook Messenger video chats worked if you shimmed the UA as Chrome. | Mar 08 03:34 |
DaemonFC[m] | But Mozilla wouldn't do it, so for two years Facebook refused to let you use it and said get Chrome. | Mar 08 03:34 |
schestowitz__ | maybe I will find another workaround | Mar 08 03:34 |
schestowitz__ | Chrome lets them spy even more | Mar 08 03:35 |
schestowitz__ | at many levels | Mar 08 03:35 |
schestowitz__ | even system level | Mar 08 03:35 |
schestowitz__ | BTW, in GNOME3... | Mar 08 03:35 |
schestowitz__ | Chromium is run would ask for a password | Mar 08 03:35 |
schestowitz__ | every time | Mar 08 03:35 |
mjg59 | schestowitz__: Are you willing to admit that your claim that this is the only Freenode IRC channel I'm on was factually inaccurate? | Mar 08 03:35 |
schestowitz__ | maybe something with session management | Mar 08 03:35 |
schestowitz__ | but it's still odd | Mar 08 03:35 |
schestowitz__ | mjg59: go full-time trolling elsewhere | Mar 08 03:36 |
schestowitz__ | natsec troll | Mar 08 03:36 |
schestowitz__ | DaemonFC[m]: I didn't know about FB | Mar 08 03:36 |
schestowitz__ | I thought no bank can deny FF access, either | Mar 08 03:36 |
schestowitz__ | that might happen again in the future | Mar 08 03:36 |
schestowitz__ | like in 2005 | Mar 08 03:36 |
schestowitz__ | or earlier | Mar 08 03:36 |
DaemonFC[m] | They might have just gotten as much sabotage of FOSS out of him as he was good for and moved on. | Mar 08 03:36 |
DaemonFC[m] | Who knows? | Mar 08 03:36 |
schestowitz__ | they would not accept Netscape either | Mar 08 03:36 |
schestowitz__ | DaemonFC[m]: let's stay on topic | Mar 08 03:37 |
DaemonFC[m] | Rebranding it as he finally found his scruples and quit. | Mar 08 03:37 |
schestowitz__ | don't let trolls derail the channel | Mar 08 03:37 |
schestowitz__ | About FIrefox, it's totally self-nuking now | Mar 08 03:37 |
mjg59 | schestowitz__: If you make demonstrably untrue statements about me, why should people trust things you saw about anyone else? | Mar 08 03:37 |
schestowitz__ | and I see people blasting it for censorship now | Mar 08 03:37 |
schestowitz__ | they think they can pass themselves off as "ethical" censorship now to gain users | Mar 08 03:37 |
DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, fuck Firefox. | Mar 08 03:37 |
schestowitz__ | It's done | Mar 08 03:38 |
DaemonFC[m] | It's deader than a can of SPAM. | Mar 08 03:38 |
schestowitz__ | It's funded by Google | Mar 08 03:38 |
DaemonFC[m] | Time to move to Brave. | Mar 08 03:38 |
schestowitz__ | to combat antitrust | Mar 08 03:38 |
schestowitz__ | Aral Blakan blasted them for it | Mar 08 03:38 |
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schestowitz__ | taking Google bribes and then shilling against DOJ | Mar 08 03:38 |
schestowitz__ | to defend their paymaster | Mar 08 03:38 |
schestowitz__ | not sure aboyt Brave | Mar 08 03:38 |
DaemonFC[m] | The only point is to say there's some other web engine that people could conceivably use. | Mar 08 03:38 |
schestowitz__ | it's spun off Chromium | Mar 08 03:38 |
DaemonFC[m] | When there's no point because all it does is ape Chrome, including its shitty crippled extensions. | Mar 08 03:39 |
schestowitz__ | Mozilla has gecko | Mar 08 03:39 |
schestowitz__ | but that helps antitrust aspects for Google | Mar 08 03:39 |
schestowitz__ | I will check if there's a FIrefox CLI option for closing tabs, but doubt it | Mar 08 03:40 |
schestowitz__ | I went through all the options already | Mar 08 03:40 |
DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, Mozilla has an odd history of only surviving because they're tangentially useful for some big company to get a better deal from Microsoft or to keep antitrust lawsuits at bay. | Mar 08 03:40 |
DaemonFC[m] | They've finally hit a low point because AOL was just handing them cash and letting them build a web browser. | Mar 08 03:40 |
MinceR | it does more than ape chrome now -- it blocks ALSA :> | Mar 08 03:41 |
DaemonFC[m] | Remember AOL telling Microsoft that they wanted settlement money and a free license to use Trident and then when they got it, they spun Mozilla off with a couple million dollars and said good luck? | Mar 08 03:41 |
schestowitz__ | --new-instance Open new instance, not a new window in running instance. | Mar 08 03:41 |
DaemonFC[m] | I think they used the threat of Gecko to get a ~$450 million settlement from Microsoft and the free IE license. | Mar 08 03:42 |
schestowitz__ | Microsoft took their patents later, DaemonFC[m] | Mar 08 03:42 |
DaemonFC[m] | Which, the second part makes no sense. | Mar 08 03:42 |
DaemonFC[m] | Trident is a part of Windows. | Mar 08 03:42 |
DaemonFC[m] | You can embed it just by being a Windows application. No license is needed. | Mar 08 03:42 |
schestowitz__ | LOL. "Firefox is already running, but is not responding. To use Firefox, you must first close the existing Firefox process, restart your device, or use a different profile." | Mar 08 03:43 |
schestowitz__ | This is what you get when using --new-instance | Mar 08 03:43 |
DaemonFC[m] | There have been browsers besides IE that used Trident. Several added things like ad blockers and tabs to it. | Mar 08 03:43 |
schestowitz__ | do they even test their own software? | Mar 08 03:43 |
DaemonFC[m] | I hear KMeleon is still around. | Mar 08 03:44 |
DaemonFC[m] | I used that a lot on my IE-less Windows 98 box. | Mar 08 03:44 |
DaemonFC[m] | Gecko was suitable, but it drew its own interface, which was sluggish and not "native". | Mar 08 03:44 |
schestowitz__ | falkon and qupzilla both have more CLI option or more useful options than Moz FF | Mar 08 03:44 |
schestowitz__ | I know the latter is just older Falkon | Mar 08 03:44 |
schestowitz__ | BTW, re Falkon | Mar 08 03:45 |
schestowitz__ | Google would sometimes not load up in it | Mar 08 03:45 |
schestowitz__ | they sort of 'rate-limit' it | Mar 08 03:46 |
schestowitz__ | but who would file antitrust complaint? KDE? | Mar 08 03:46 |
DaemonFC[m] | I just use DuckDuckGo in Brave. | Mar 08 03:46 |
DaemonFC[m] | It doesn't have a default search engine. | Mar 08 03:46 |
schestowitz__ | http://www.netsurf-browser.org/documentation/info.html | Mar 08 03:46 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.netsurf-browser.org | NetSurf | User Information | Mar 08 03:46 | |
schestowitz__ | "At present, NetSurf has only primitive and incomplete support for JavaScript, which we disable by default. Without JavaScript, NetSurf is able to provide access to most of sites on the World Wide Web. Some sites, however, will not display correctly or be unworkable due to heavy reliance on this standard." | Mar 08 03:46 |
schestowitz__ | DaemonFC[m]: DDG is fake privacy | Mar 08 03:47 |
DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, NetSurf is useless for all but the most basic sites. | Mar 08 03:47 |
schestowitz__ | you support charlatans and liars | Mar 08 03:47 |
schestowitz__ | there are some searx instances | Mar 08 03:47 |
DaemonFC[m] | They're not as nasty as Google and you don't log into it. | Mar 08 03:47 |
schestowitz__ | https://searx.feneas.org has good uptime | Mar 08 03:47 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-searx.feneas.org | searx | Mar 08 03:47 | |
DaemonFC[m] | And it doesn't fuck with you if you use a VPN or Tor. | Mar 08 03:47 |
schestowitz__ | DaemonFC[m]: they can correlate your cookies | Mar 08 03:47 |
DaemonFC[m] | DuckDuckGo works without Javascript. | Mar 08 03:48 |
Ariadne | [21:42] <DaemonFC[m]> You can embed it just by being a Windows application. No license is needed. | Mar 08 03:48 |
schestowitz__ | and IP address, if cookies don't do it (VPN useless in that context) | Mar 08 03:48 |
DaemonFC[m] | Google doesn't. | Mar 08 03:48 |
Ariadne | not on mac os 9 :) | Mar 08 03:48 |
DaemonFC[m] | <Ariadne "not on mac os 9 :)"> There was an IE for Mac, but it was name only. The engine was actually fairly standards compliant for the time. | Mar 08 03:48 |
schestowitz__ | check page source of google.com | Mar 08 03:48 |
schestowitz__ | good for a laugh, at least... | Mar 08 03:49 |
Ariadne | [21:48] <DaemonFC[m]> <Ariadne "not on mac os 9 :)"> There was an IE for Mac, but it was name only. The engine was actually fairly standards compliant for the time. | Mar 08 03:52 |
Ariadne | yes but AOL needed a license for that engine | Mar 08 03:52 |
Ariadne | AOL was also available on mac :) | Mar 08 03:52 |
DaemonFC[m] | Oh that's right. But didn't they use Gecko on the Mac or something? | Mar 08 03:55 |
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Ariadne | not at first | Mar 08 03:55 |
DaemonFC[m] | I used a beta of AOL for Windows with Gecko. | Mar 08 03:55 |
DaemonFC[m] | They had a client that was ready to go. | Mar 08 03:55 |
Ariadne | i think they switched to gecko for a while | Mar 08 03:56 |
Ariadne | then back to IE | Mar 08 03:56 |
Ariadne | “compuserve 2000” was AOL plus gecko | Mar 08 03:56 |
schestowitz__ | nothing I've attempted it working | Mar 08 04:01 |
schestowitz__ | inc. embedding the session ID in the URL | Mar 08 04:01 |
schestowitz__ | after a browser restart | Mar 08 04:02 |
techrights-bot | An hour wasted trying to get #mozilla #firefox to act sane again. In vain. To no avail... | Mar 08 04:03 |
techrights-bot | #mozilla #firefox will continue bleeding and losing users... as long as #google finds it useful for #antitrust prevention purposes and maybe some (remaining) Firefox uses directed to Google by default, with address bar as Google #keylogger | Mar 08 04:04 |
techrights-bot | #Techrights Bulletin for Sunday, March 07, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext | Mar 08 04:05 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives | Mar 08 04:05 | |
techrights-bot | #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing | Mar 08 04:06 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index | Mar 08 04:06 | |
techrights-bot | How to get yourself even more tightly controlled by #google #monopoly inside #youtube https://www.maketecheasier.com/get-custom-url-for-youtube-channel/ you should #deletegoogle and control your own stuff, instead... | Mar 08 04:07 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | How to Get a Custom URL for Your YouTube Channel - Make Tech Easier | Mar 08 04:07 | |
techrights-bot | It's international corporations-pretend-to-care about-women day... while abusing them all (check how many shareholders are female) http://techrights.org/2020/11/03/the-harassment-claims-in-full/ | Mar 08 04:08 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Outreachy as ‘Hush Money’ (Bribe) From Monopolies | Techrights | Mar 08 04:08 | |
techrights-bot | All this "hashtag" 'activism' merely benefit truly racist, imperialistic companies (GAFAM+Twitter) that farm people's brains and end up selling them to those who commit crimes against humanity https://rdnewsnow.com/2021/03/07/international-womens-day-events-going-virtual-for-2021/ | Mar 08 04:10 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-International Women’s Day events going virtual for 2021 | rdnewsnow.com | Mar 08 04:10 | |
techrights-bot | Still waiting for International Crimes Against Humanity Awareness Day... | Mar 08 04:11 |
techrights-bot | Linux pee Command – Tee Standard Input Into Pipes https://www.putorius.net/linux-pee-command-tee-standard-input-into-pipes.html maybe they will 'cancel' this command, because companies that "KILL(1)" people say it's insensitive (all animals pee by the way) | Mar 08 04:13 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.putorius.net | Linux pee Command - Tee Standard Input Into Pipes - Putorius | Mar 08 04:13 | |
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techrights-bot | Sad but true. #distrowatch has added #surveillance / #spyware to all pages in order to 'monetise' site visitors. Do not access the site with #javascript available/on. | Mar 08 04:18 |
techrights-bot | "Helping victims of harassment is not an easy thing but it is something that any of us may be called upon to do from time to time. It is an inevitable burden of being in a leadership position." http://techrights.org/2020/11/03/the-harassment-claims-in-full/ | Mar 08 04:19 |
techrights-bot | Nowadays "innovation" means "moving to the cloud" i.e. outsourcing to #monopolies with #backdoors and pervasive #surveillance at every corner, not for your protection but for #socialcontrol (protecting the biggest abusers from accountability). VC money flows towards such 'innovation'... | Mar 08 04:25 |
techrights-bot | #Review : #ArtixLinux in 2021 • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148551 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Mar 08 04:26 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Review: Artix Linux in 2021 | Tux Machines | Mar 08 04:26 | |
techrights-bot | #corporateMedia : you cannot trust Web sites online until they have loads and loads of scripts, cookies and ads (like they do). Otherwise, if they don't serve the spying industry, they aren't "credible"... | Mar 08 04:27 |
techrights-bot | "We don’t know if #Google intended to exert some influence by withholding the money, if they had general concerns about the organizers or if it was just a blunder" http://techrights.org/2021/03/07/foss-people-trafficking/ | Mar 08 04:28 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | When I Discovered People Trafficking in Free/Open Source Software | Techrights | Mar 08 04:28 | |
techrights-bot | #Audiocasts /Shows: Open Source Security Podcast, Linux Action News, and #SMLR • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148552 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Mar 08 04:34 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Audiocasts/Shows: Open Source Security Podcast, Linux Action News, and SMLR | Tux Machines | Mar 08 04:34 | |
techrights-ipfs | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▂▂▁▅▃▃▅▁▄▁▄▅▁▃▄▃▄▁▅▅▁▅▅▅▅▅▂▂▃▅▁▅▄▁ avg(k/sec) 32.55 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▁█▂█▄▅▂█▁█▂▂▃▁▂▁▁▂▂▄▂▂▁▁▁█▁▃█▂█▁ avg(k/sec) 118.95▕ swarm size (avg): 130.14 ⟲ | Mar 08 04:38 |
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techrights-bot | The Banality of #Bribery • 𝕿𝖊𝖈𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍𝖙𝖘 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/03/08/the-banality-of-bribery/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/08/the-banality-of-bribery/ | Mar 08 05:05 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Banality of Bribery | Techrights | Mar 08 05:05 | |
techrights-bot | #Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148553 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Mar 08 05:25 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Mar 08 05:25 | |
techrights-bot | #ZeMarmot Is Working On Searchable Layer Groups, Stored Layer Selection And Other Cool Features For #GIMP • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148554 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Mar 08 05:26 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | ZeMarmot Is Working On Searchable Layer Groups, Stored Layer Selection And Other Cool Features For GIMP | Tux Machines | Mar 08 05:26 | |
techrights-bot | #Waffle 1.7.0 • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148555 •●• #Graphics #Linux #TuxMachines | Mar 08 05:26 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Waffle 1.7.0 | Tux Machines | Mar 08 05:26 | |
techrights-bot | To understand why institutions defend and sometimes even give awards for the very things they claim to be against one must examine the flow of money (with strings attached to it) • 𝕿𝖊𝖈𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍𝖙𝖘 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/03/08/the-banality-of-bribery/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/08/the-banality-of-bribery/ | Mar 08 05:26 |
techrights-bot | A lot of political activism turns out to be just corporate #lobbying disguised as "manners" | Mar 08 05:27 |
techrights-bot | I'm told that #duckduckgo has quietly outsourced all of its data to #microsoft (and #nsa #espionage operation), but am checking further to verify... | Mar 08 05:31 |
techrights-bot | #duckDuckGo does not just attack your #privacy but it's also a #keylogger and if you still use it then you're harming yourself http://techrights.org/2020/07/02/ddg-privacy-abuser-in-disguise/ | Mar 08 05:35 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Why People Should Never Ever Use DuckDuckGo | Techrights | Mar 08 05:35 | |
superkuh | Just use the HTML interface. | Mar 08 05:38 |
techrights-ipfs | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▂▄▃▂▁▂▁▄▄▄▂▂▆▁▂▅▆▆▆▁▂▂▃▁▂▂▃▂▃▃▄▄▃▄▅▁▁ avg(k/sec) 15.63 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▁▁█▁▁█▃▁▁█▁▂▁▂▁█▂█▁█▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▂█▁ avg(k/sec) 88.51▕ swarm size (avg): 130.35 ⟲ | Mar 08 05:38 |
superkuh | http://searxes.eu.org/ redirects to a web interface for an empty git repo. | Mar 08 05:40 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-crimeflare/cloudflare-tor: - README.md at master - cloudflare-tor - Codeberg.org | Mar 08 05:40 | |
techrights-bot | #qutebrowser spies on you the very moment you launch it, at least on #debian #buster ... but you know those people don't give a damn about #privacy because they develop on #microsoft servers. | Mar 08 05:44 |
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techrights-bot | Moving Away From the World Wide Web is a Wise Move, at Least to the Degree Which is Possible • 𝕿𝖊𝖈𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍𝖙𝖘 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/03/08/away-from-www/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/08/away-from-www/ | Mar 08 05:55 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Moving Away From the World Wide Web is a Wise Move, at Least to the Degree Which is Possible | Techrights | Mar 08 05:55 | |
schestowitz__ | superkuh: oh | Mar 08 05:56 |
techrights-ipfs | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▂▄▅▁▃▃▄▆▃▄▃▁▅▄▅▇▂▂▃▃▄▅▂▂▂▁▄▅▅▂▃▆▅▁▅▁ avg(k/sec) 14.25 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▁▂▄▁▁▂▁▁█▂▃▁▁▁▂▁█▁▂▁▂▂▃█▁██▁▁▁▂▂█▂▁ avg(k/sec) 81.43▕ swarm size (avg): 130.55 ⟲ | Mar 08 06:38 |
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techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #Bloomberg #microsoft #racism #xenophobia ☞ Microsoft Attack Blamed On China Morphs Into Global Crisis https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-03-07/hackers-breach-thousands-of-microsoft-customers-around-the-world http://techrights.org/2021/03/03/microsoft-blame-shifting-tactics/ | Mar 08 08:07 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bloomberg - Are you a robot? | Mar 08 08:07 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Weaponises (and Further Spreads) Racism to Distract From Its Own Incompetence (and ‘Five Eyes’ Collusion for Back Door Access) | Techrights | Mar 08 08:07 | |
techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #ITWire ☞ #Windows #ransomware gangs will hit all creatures big and small https://www.itwire.com/security/windows-ransomware-gangs-will-hit-all-creatures-big-and-small.html | Mar 08 08:08 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iTWire - Windows ransomware gangs will hit all creatures big and small | Mar 08 08:08 | |
techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #TheHill #Privacy #Surveillance ☞ Tech giants in brewing battle over tracking, ads https://thehill.com/policy/technology/541878-tech-giants-in-brewing-battle-over-tracking-ads #google #espionage | Mar 08 08:09 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Tech giants in brewing battle over tracking, ads | TheHill | Mar 08 08:09 | |
techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #Salon ☞ #Humanitarian #imperialism : How the media exploits liberals' empathy to sell them #war https://www.salon.com/2021/03/07/humanitarian-imperialism-how-the-media-exploits-liberals-empathy-to-sell-them-war_partner/ http://techrights.org/2021/03/06/astroturfing-vs-grassroots/ | Mar 08 08:10 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Humanitarian imperialism: How the media exploits liberals' empathy to sell them war | Salon.com | Mar 08 08:10 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Corporations Do Not Represent Communities and Activists, They Just Exploit Them, Discredit Them, and Hijack Their Hard Work | Techrights | Mar 08 08:10 | |
techrights-bot | #IRC Proceedings: Sunday, March 07, 2021 • 𝕿𝖊𝖈𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍𝖙𝖘 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/03/08/irc-log-070321/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/08/irc-log-070321/ | Mar 08 08:15 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Sunday, March 07, 2021 | Techrights | Mar 08 08:15 | |
techrights-bot | More #Webbrowsers finally support the #Geminiprotocol and decentralisation is gaining traction (it’s even in mainstream European media right about now) • 𝕿𝖊𝖈𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍𝖙𝖘 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/03/08/away-from-www/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/08/away-from-www/ | Mar 08 08:16 |
techrights-bot | Politicians as bribed moles of the #litigation fanatics and #patent profiteers https://www.patentdocs.org/2021/03/sen-tillis-sends-letter-to-president-regarding-next-uspto-director.html #corruption #uspto #patents | Mar 08 08:19 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patentdocs.org | Patent Docs: Sen. Tillis Sends Letter to President Regarding Next USPTO Director | Mar 08 08:19 | |
techrights-bot | "deltapatents have said paper B was very difficult, to the point that even their experienced attorneys and tutors cannot work out what is expected" http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/03/a-chaotic-start-to-eeqes.html?showComment=1615138213026#c6970804188757360743 see http://techrights.org/2021/03/03/epo-does-not-understand-software/ | Mar 08 08:20 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | A chaotic start to the eEQEs - The IPKat | Mar 08 08:20 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EPO’s Software Blunders Are Inevitable Outcome of Technically Clueless Management Which Grants Illegal Patents on Software | Techrights | Mar 08 08:20 | |
techrights-bot | Selling #hardware as "HEY HI" (junk buzzwords) when what you're actually pushing is mass #surveillance and military-grade #espionage https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/03/08/edgeturing-ai-video-processing-socionext-sc2000-4k-camera-hailo-8-ai-accelerator/ #listeningDevices | Mar 08 08:22 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Edge AI video processing system combines SocioNext SC2000 4K camera SoC with Hailo-8 AI accelerator | Mar 08 08:22 | |
techrights-bot | Daily #dilbert https://dilbert.com/strip/2021-03-07 | Mar 08 08:24 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fired For Social Media - Dilbert Comic Strip on 2021-03-07 | Dilbert by Scott Adams | Mar 08 08:24 | |
techrights-bot | #bipartisanship #biden https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/06/us/stimulus-senate-bipartisanship-biden.html | Mar 08 08:24 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | After Stimulus Victory in Senate, Reality Sinks in: Bipartisanship Is Dead - The New York Times | Mar 08 08:24 | |
techrights-bot | #jitsimeet http://www.mpaoli.net/~michael/tmp/2jitsi | Mar 08 08:24 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Missing content type. Ignoring. | Mar 08 08:24 | |
techrights-bot | Shame on #indiatimes and #nytimes for helping #microsoft #propaganda that is in effect racist #blameshifting http://techrights.org/2021/03/03/microsoft-blame-shifting-tactics/ | Mar 08 08:27 |
techrights-bot | #boycottGoogle https://lbry.tv/@TheLinuxGamer:f/Google-STILL-won't-fix-the-real-issue-with-online-ads.:e | Mar 08 08:27 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lbry.tv | Google's new FEDERATED ad system is still BAD NEWS. | Mar 08 08:27 | |
techrights-bot | old: building your own #linux #kernel https://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/How_to_build_and_install_your_own_Linux_kernel | Mar 08 08:27 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wiki.linuxquestions.org | How to build and install your own Linux kernel - LQWiki | Mar 08 08:27 | |
techrights-bot | #freesw in #india https://www.business-standard.com/article/technology/explained-how-open-source-software-is-powering-india-s-startup-ecosystem-121030700864_1.html #paywall | Mar 08 08:29 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.business-standard.com | Explained: How open-source software is powering India's startup ecosystem | Business Standard News | Mar 08 08:29 | |
techrights-bot | #cuomo was hailed as a hero just a year ago by #corporateMedia https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/two-more-women-sexual-harassment-cuomo-1137929/ | Mar 08 08:29 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rollingstone.com | Two More Women Make Sexual Harassment Claims Against Cuomo - Rolling Stone | Mar 08 08:29 | |
CrystalMath | i believe them, Cuomo is a piece of garbage, he must have groped one or two | Mar 08 08:38 |
mjg59 | And, again, sexual assault is on topic when it serves a specific end | Mar 08 08:40 |
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techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #CommonDreams ☞ Opinion | 9 Skillful Struggles Happening Right Now https://www.commondreams.org/views/2021/03/07/9-skillful-struggles-happening-right-now | Mar 08 09:43 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | 9 Skillful Struggles Happening Right Now | Mar 08 09:43 | |
techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #CommonDreams #bezos ☞ Opinion | Why the #Amazon Worker Vote in #Bessemer Means So Much https://www.commondreams.org/views/2021/03/07/why-amazon-worker-vote-bessemer-means-so-much | Mar 08 09:44 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | Why the Amazon Worker Vote in Bessemer Means So Much | Mar 08 09:44 | |
techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #CommonDreams ☞ Opinion | Remembering W.E.B. Du Bois: A Giant in the Struggle for Black Freedom in the US https://www.commondreams.org/views/2021/03/07/remembering-web-du-bois-giant-struggle-black-freedom-us | Mar 08 09:44 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | Remembering W.E.B. Du Bois: A Giant in the Struggle for Black Freedom in the US | Mar 08 09:44 | |
techrights-bot | "Judge Thembekile Malusi of the High Court Eastern Cape Division in Port Elizabeth has found two German nationals guilty of the murder of Claus Schroeder, and fraud…" https://www.all4women.co.za/2208204/news/south-african-news/german-couple-guilty-of-murdering-man-over-farmland-after-6-year-trial | Mar 08 09:47 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.all4women.co.za | NO TITLE | Mar 08 09:47 | |
techrights-bot | #blackmail and #extortion artists #femmewashing to make themselves look ethical https://www.managingip.com/article/b1qty5zgpk7yvd/managing-ip-celebrates-international-womens-day today is a corporate day, hijacking the hard work of campaigners http://techrights.org/2021/03/06/astroturfing-vs-grassroots/ | Mar 08 09:50 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | Managing IP celebrates International Women’s Day | Managing Intellectual Property | Mar 08 09:50 | |
techrights-bot | Gemini Capsules and Pages Now Accessible in a Web Browser, Qutebrowser, But #Qutebrowser Has Issues • 𝕿𝖊𝖈𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍𝖙𝖘 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/03/08/qutebrowser-qute-gemini/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/08/qutebrowser-qute-gemini/ | Mar 08 10:14 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Gemini Capsules and Pages Now Accessible in a Web Browser, Qutebrowser, But Qutebrowser Has Issues | Techrights | Mar 08 10:15 | |
techrights-bot | Cross-Examination of French Judges (Interview Part I: National Introspection) http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/03/08/cross-examination-of-french-judges-interview-part-i-national-introspection/ #france has a corrupt #patent system and that #corruption has spread to #epo http://techrights.org/2020/03/07/inpi-corruption-scandal/ | Mar 08 10:16 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | Cross-Examination of French Judges (Interview Part I: National Introspection) - Kluwer Patent Blog | Mar 08 10:16 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Financial and Legal Corruption Scandal in France (INPI) Implicating the Person Benoît Battistelli Put in Charge of the EPO’s Finances | Techrights | Mar 08 10:16 | |
techrights-bot | Again, as usual from #AstraZeneca shills, no mention of the fact that those #EPO Boards of Appeal lack independence -- a fact they repeatedly complain about http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/03/second-medical-use-dosage-regieme-claim.html see http://techrights.org/2019/07/18/g-219-eba-epo/ | Mar 08 10:19 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Second medical use dosage regimen claim successfully traverses both insufficiency and "obvious-to-try" attacks (T 0799/16) - The IPKat | Mar 08 10:19 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Index: G 2/19 (Enlarged Board of Appeal, EPO) | Techrights | Mar 08 10:19 | |
techrights-bot | As noted earlier this morning, it’s nowadays possible to access #Geminicapsules through a Web browser without any Web proxies; but the (likely) first browser with that capability has numerous big issues • 𝕿𝖊𝖈𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍𝖙𝖘 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/03/08/qutebrowser-qute-gemini/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/08/qutebrowser-qute-gemini/ | Mar 08 10:20 |
techrights-bot | Don't let companies that call themselves "Open Source" become "Out Source". Many of them nowadays promote #clowncomputing and merely outsource clients' systems to #surveillance companies with #proprietarySoftware GUIs | Mar 08 10:23 |
techrights-bot | #HowTo Self Host #JitsiMeet With Docker [Step by Step Guide] ⇨ https://linuxhandbook.com/self-host-jitsi-meet/ •●• #LinuxHandbook #GNU #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/03/08/#latest | Mar 08 10:23 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxhandbook.com | How to Self Host Jitsi Meet With Docker [Step by Step Guide] | Mar 08 10:23 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts | Mar 08 10:23 | |
techrights-bot | Racist and sexist #ibm pretends to care for women because today is a corporate stunt day; they hijack activists' causes for PR https://opensource.com/article/21/3/women-in-tech see http://techrights.org/2021/03/06/astroturfing-vs-grassroots/ | Mar 08 10:25 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-10 articles you should read right now by women in tech | Opensource.com | Mar 08 10:25 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Corporations Do Not Represent Communities and Activists, They Just Exploit Them, Discredit Them, and Hijack Their Hard Work | Techrights | Mar 08 10:25 | |
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techrights-bot | #Ubuntu Studio review • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148556 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Mar 08 11:45 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Studio review | Tux Machines | Mar 08 11:45 | |
techrights-bot | #freesw tools for #weddingplanning • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148557 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Mar 08 11:46 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 6 open source tools for wedding planning | Tux Machines | Mar 08 11:46 | |
techrights-bot | #Kdenlive 20.12.3 is out • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148558 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #KDE | Mar 08 11:46 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kdenlive 20.12.3 is out | Tux Machines | Mar 08 11:46 | |
techrights-bot | #Lenovo M93 Ultra Small PC Running GNU/Linux – Week 1 • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148559 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Mar 08 11:47 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Lenovo M93 Ultra Small PC Running Linux – Week 1 | Tux Machines | Mar 08 11:47 | |
techrights-bot | Wife points out that in almost no language there's a word/name for a parent who lost a child. She speaks 5 languages. For loss of spouse we have widow/widower, lost of parents -- orphan. Why nothing for loss of children? "Childless" NOT the same. | Mar 08 11:52 |
techrights-bot | Real #Feminism is Grassroots, Not a Corporate Ploy (to Improve Image and Sales) • 𝕿𝖊𝖈𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍𝖙𝖘 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/03/08/corporate-hijack-of-real-feminism/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/08/corporate-hijack-of-real-feminism/ | Mar 08 12:41 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Real Feminism is Grassroots, Not a Corporate Ploy (to Improve Image and Sales) | Techrights | Mar 08 12:41 | |
techrights-bot | #Android Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148560 •●• #Google #Linux #TuxMachines | Mar 08 12:42 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Mar 08 12:42 | |
techrights-bot | The insulting publicity stunt many will be exposed to throughout the day is largely a corporate-led Public Relations charade, painting sexist companies as defenders of women • 𝕿𝖊𝖈𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍𝖙𝖘 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/03/08/corporate-hijack-of-real-feminism/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/08/corporate-hijack-of-real-feminism/ | Mar 08 13:05 |
techrights-bot | ht> | Mar 08 13:07 |
techrights-bot | Views from the public not even sought because this propaganda site is a front group for patent profiteers, including predators from pharmaceutical companies (or their lawyers)https://www.managingip.com/article/b1qtzdryvpcndj/counsel-reveal-how-pharma-can-benefit-from-patent-arbitration | Mar 08 13:08 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | Counsel reveal how pharma can benefit from patent arbitration | Managing Intellectual Property | Mar 08 13:08 | |
techrights-bot | #Ubuntu Blog: #Security podcast: February https://ubuntu.com//blog/security-podcast-february | Mar 08 13:14 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Security podcast: February | Ubuntu | Mar 08 13:14 | |
techrights-bot | "The general consensus among experts is that #GNU #Linux is a highly secure OS - arguably the most secure OS by design." https://linuxsecurity.com/features/features/how-secure-is-linux | Mar 08 13:15 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxsecurity.com | How Secure Is Linux?. | Mar 08 13:15 | |
techrights-bot | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148561 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Mar 08 13:22 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Mar 08 13:22 | |
techrights-bot | #Security : Blaming Microsoft Back Doors/Bug Doors on Others, Ubuntu Security, and GNU/Linux Analysis • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148562 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Mar 08 13:23 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: Blaming Microsoft Back Doors/Bug Doors on Others, Ubuntu Security, and GNU/Linux Analysis | Tux Machines | Mar 08 13:23 | |
techrights-bot | #SparkyLinux 2021.03 Release Introduces a #KDE Plasma Edition, #Xfce 4.16 Update, and More Upgrades http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148513#comment-28545 | Mar 08 13:26 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Sparky 2021.03 | Tux Machines | Mar 08 13:26 | |
techrights-bot | Say NO to Big Tech deciding Global Governance of #BigTech https://stop.zona-m.net/2021/03/say-no-to-big-tech-deciding-global-governance-of-big-tech/ #microsoft #antitrust #amazon #facebook | Mar 08 13:30 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stop.zona-m.net | Say NO to Big Tech deciding Global Governance of Big Tech | Stop at Zona-M | Mar 08 13:30 | |
techrights-bot | Today’s 𝐓𝐮𝐱 𝐌𝐚𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐞𝐬 Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148563 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Mar 08 13:43 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Mar 08 13:43 | |
techrights-bot | Links 8/3/2021: Waffle 1.7.0 and a Look at the New Pardus (19.5) • 𝕿𝖊𝖈𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍𝖙𝖘 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/03/08/waffle-1-7-0/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/08/waffle-1-7-0/ | Mar 08 13:43 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 8/3/2021: Waffle 1.7.0 and a Look at the New Pardus (19.5) | Techrights | Mar 08 13:43 | |
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techrights-bot | #microsoft uses #racism to distract from its own #corruption and in the process may lead to war https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-03-07/hackers-breach-thousands-of-microsoft-customers-around-the-world see http://techrights.org/2021/03/03/microsoft-blame-shifting-tactics/ | Mar 08 13:52 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bloomberg - Are you a robot? | Mar 08 13:52 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Weaponises (and Further Spreads) Racism to Distract From Its Own Incompetence (and ‘Five Eyes’ Collusion for Back Door Access) | Techrights | Mar 08 13:52 | |
techrights-bot | Sofa gaming Linux distro #GamerOS version 23 is out continuing to fill the gap of SteamOS | GamingOnLinux ⇨ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/03/sofa-gaming-linux-distro-gameros-version-23-is-out-continuing-to-fill-the-gap-of-steamos •●• #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games | Mar 08 13:53 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Sofa gaming Linux distro GamerOS version 23 is out continuing to fill the gap of SteamOS | GamingOnLinux | Mar 08 13:53 | |
techrights-bot | Mario Maker-like platformer #MakerKing has a huge update, lets you make mobs | GamingOnLinux ⇨ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/03/mario-maker-like-platformer-makerking-has-a-huge-update-lets-you-make-mobs •●• #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Jumpaï | Mar 08 13:54 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mario Maker-like platformer MakerKing has a huge update, lets you make mobs | GamingOnLinux | Mar 08 13:54 | |
techrights-bot | Clickbait tabloid keep personifying news about #linux (making it all about a person, which separately they demonise the ad hominem way) https://www.techradar.com/news/linus-torvalds-pushes-out-emergency-linux-update | Mar 08 13:56 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linus Torvalds pushes out emergency Linux update | TechRadar | Mar 08 13:56 | |
techrights-bot | #Microsoft centric (and connected/paid) tabloids don't want 'boring' headlines like "RC2" so they make it about a person https://www.theregister.com/2021/03/07/linux_5_12_rc2_emergency_swapfile_bug_fix/ see http://techrights.org/2021/02/28/the-register-microsoft-pr/ | Mar 08 13:57 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Linus Torvalds issues early Linux Kernel update to fix swapfile SNAFU • The Register | Mar 08 13:57 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Fall of The Register | Techrights | Mar 08 13:57 | |
techrights-bot | It's easier to 'cancel' a person (with opinions) than to cancel a project, so... #Tabloids personify #Linux news http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148491#comment-28547 see http://techrights.org/2020/05/25/no-technical-journalism/ and http://techrights.org/2021/01/06/linus-instead-of-linux/ | Mar 08 14:00 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 5.12-rc2 | Tux Machines | Mar 08 14:00 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | ‘Journalism’ in 2020: Far More Articles About What Computer Linus Torvalds Bought Than About Linux Releases | Techrights | Mar 08 14:00 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Gossip Mill as ‘News’: The Mainstream Media Covers Linus Instead of Linux | Techrights | Mar 08 14:00 | |
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techrights-bot | #Server Wars: Why is #Ubuntu Linux the leading choice to replace CentOS for Finserv infrastructure? • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148564 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Mar 08 14:09 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why is Ubuntu Linux the leading choice to replace CentOS for Finserv infrastructure? | Tux Machines | Mar 08 14:09 | |
techrights-bot | Applying mailing list patches with 'git b4' https://memcpy.io/applying-mailing-list-patches-with-git-b4.html #git #freesw #kernel #linux | Mar 08 14:10 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-memcpy.io | Applying mailing list patches with 'git b4' | Mar 08 14:10 | |
XRevan86 | https://joindiaspora.com/p/20239044 | Mar 08 14:13 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Wife points out that in almost no language there's a word/name for ... | Mar 08 14:13 | |
XRevan86 | Probably because child mortality is not what it used to be. | Mar 08 14:13 |
techrights-bot | Fedora Community Blog: Contribute at the Fedora 34 IoT Edition Test Day https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/contribute-at-the-fedora-34-iot-edition-test-day/ #fedora #ibm #redhat #gnu #linux | Mar 08 14:21 |
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techrights-bot | #Fedora and #RedHat Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148565 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Mar 08 14:26 |
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techrights-bot | MIT/GNU Scheme version 11.2 is released http://savannah.gnu.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=9954 "This includes a bunch of bug fixes to 11.1, but is otherwise the same. Download from the usual place." | Mar 08 14:27 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-savannah.gnu.org | MIT/GNU Scheme - News: MIT/GNU Scheme version 11.2 is released [Savannah] | Mar 08 14:27 | |
techrights-bot | #intel is finished. Intel is done. Its products are just #defectiveByDesigns https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Intel-Interconnects-Side-Chan the real engineers leave/left the company http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaks | Mar 08 14:29 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Researchers Discover Intel CPU Ring Interconnects Vulnerable To Side Channel Attack - Phoronix | Mar 08 14:29 | |
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techrights-bot | #bezos is a plunderer who lets #imperialism by #surveillance and #blackmail enter bedrooms and act as more than just #listeningDevices https://palant.info/2021/03/08/how-amazon-assistant-lets-amazon-track-your-every-move-on-the-web/ | Mar 08 14:33 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-palant.info | How Amazon Assistant lets Amazon track your every move on the web | Almost Secure | Mar 08 14:33 | |
techrights-bot | #Plots – An Open Source Graph Plotting App for #GNOME • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148566 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Mar 08 14:34 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Plots – An Open Source Graph Plotting App for GNOME | Tux Machines | Mar 08 14:34 | |
techrights-bot | "So many people have suggested that I try Brave instead of Firefox. So here's my trying it out. Will it earn my undying affection as it has so many others?" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkZsf979-4U | Mar 08 14:36 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Trying Brave Browser. Will it win me over? - YouTube | Mar 08 14:36 | |
techrights-bot | "Eich says Brave Search already has a waitlist for its launch in the first half of 2021 and vows not to track or profile users." https://www.maketecheasier.com/brave-browser-will-launch-search-engine/ | Mar 08 14:37 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | The Brave Browser Will Launch Its Own Search Engine - Make Tech Easier | Mar 08 14:37 | |
techrights-bot | ROS Kinetic and Ubuntu 16.04 EOL: how to mitigate the impact https://ubuntu.com//blog/ros-kinetic-and-ubuntu-16-04-eol-how-to-mitigate-the-impact #security #gnu #linux | Mar 08 14:40 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ROS Kinetic and Ubuntu 16.04 EOL: how to mitigate the impact | Ubuntu | Mar 08 14:40 | |
techrights-bot | #microsoft #azure (failure, has layoffs) is #nsa #prism so any claims of #security go down the drain, it's a marketing farce https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/03/08/nxp-i-mx-8ulp-cortex-a35-m33-secure-processors-azure-sphere-certification/ | Mar 08 14:41 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | NXP unveils i.MX 8ULP Cortex-A35/M33 secure processors with optional Azure Sphere certification | Mar 08 14:41 | |
techrights-bot | Two spying devices conjoined https://opensource.com/article/21/3/android-raspberry-pi #raspberrySpy http://techrights.org/2021/03/07/raspberry-spy-the-rest/ | Mar 08 14:44 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cast your Android device with a Raspberry Pi | Opensource.com | Mar 08 14:44 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | How To Deal With Your Raspberry Spy — Part V: All The Rest | Techrights | Mar 08 14:44 | |
techrights-bot | Quick Unboxing of my new Thelio Major https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHa5Vp9Ixjk #gnu #linux | Mar 08 14:48 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Quick Unboxing of my new Thelio Major - YouTube | Mar 08 14:48 | |
techrights-bot | #Haiku activity report - February 2021 • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148567 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #beos | Mar 08 14:50 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Haiku activity report - February 2021 | Tux Machines | Mar 08 14:50 | |
techrights-bot | #Security Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148568 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Mar 08 14:50 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines | Mar 08 14:50 | |
techrights-bot | #OpenSUSE Tumbleweed Might See Micro-Architecture Packages For Better Performance • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148569 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #suse | Mar 08 14:51 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OpenSUSE Tumbleweed Might See Micro-Architecture Packages For Better Performance | Tux Machines | Mar 08 14:51 | |
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techrights-bot | The #WorldWideWeb Has Become Proprietary and the Last Remaining ’Major’ Browser That Was (Pre-EME) Free Software Is Rapidly Becoming Useless and User-Hostile (It’s Monopoly- and Surveillance-Sponsored) • 𝕿𝖊𝖈𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍𝖙𝖘 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/03/08/proprietary-www/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/08/proprietary-www/ | Mar 08 15:01 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The World Wide Web Has Become Proprietary and the Last Remaining ‘Major’ Browser That Was (Pre-EME) Free Software Is Rapidly Becoming Useless and User-Hostile (It’s Monopoly- and Surveillance-Sponsored) | Techrights | Mar 08 15:02 | |
techrights-bot | #Games : #GamerOS , MakerKing, Island Artist, Receiver 2 • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148570 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Mar 08 15:07 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: GamerOS, MakerKing, Island Artist, Receiver 2 | Tux Machines | Mar 08 15:07 | |
techrights-bot | #Kernel : Git, Intel, AMD and Bugs • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148571 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Mar 08 15:07 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: Git, Intel, AMD and Bugs | Tux Machines | Mar 08 15:07 | |
techrights-bot | Today in #Techrights • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148572 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Mar 08 15:07 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Mar 08 15:07 | |
schestowitz__ | [14:13] <XRevan86> Probably because child mortality is not what it used to be. | Mar 08 15:08 |
schestowitz__ | so what was the word for it hundred of years ago? | Mar 08 15:08 |
XRevan86 | schestowitz__: "regular person" | Mar 08 15:09 |
XRevan86 | When everyone lost one child or another, the concept loses specificity . | Mar 08 15:10 |
techrights-bot | Create Your Own #GNU #Linux Installation | Linux.org ⇨ https://www.linux.org/threads/create-your-own-linux-installation.31338/ •●• #linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/03/08/#latest | Mar 08 15:11 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Create Your Own Linux Installation | Linux.org | Mar 08 15:11 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts | Mar 08 15:11 | |
techrights-bot | If the #EuropeanCommission is smart (it's not; it's corrupted by #monopolies and banksters), it'll fund development of #gemini and port what's possible/suitable to it. https://lwn.net/Articles/848659/rss | Mar 08 15:15 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-NGI POINTER offers funding for internet/web architects [LWN.net] | Mar 08 15:15 | |
techrights-bot | Tired of the #raspberrySpy spying for #microsoft ? Try this. Much better, except the #intel (back doors) chips: http://linuxgizmos.com/robotics-kit-runs-ai-code-on-myriad-x-coral-edge-tpu-and-elkhart-lake-gpu/ | Mar 08 15:17 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Robotics kit runs AI code on Myriad X, Coral Edge TPU, and Elkhart Lake GPU | Mar 08 15:17 | |
techrights-bot | "computer runs #Ubuntu 18.04 on a Jetson Xavier NX with GbE with PoE, HDMI, 2x USB 2.0, M.2 B-key for NVMe, and mini-PCIe with SIM."http://linuxgizmos.com/ip67-rated-edge-ai-gateway-runs-linux-on-jetson-xavier-nx/ #gnu #linux | Mar 08 15:18 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | IP67-rated edge AI gateway runs Linux on Jetson Xavier NX | Mar 08 15:18 | |
MinceR | from the frying pan into the fire | Mar 08 15:18 |
techrights-bot | #Mozilla Performance Blog: Performance Sheriff Newsletter (February 2021) https://blog.mozilla.org/performance/2021/03/08/performance-sheriff-newsletter-february-2021/ | Mar 08 15:23 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | Performance Sheriff Newsletter (February 2021) – Mozilla Performance | Mar 08 15:23 | |
techrights-bot | Use Scheme functional programming language with #LambdaChip Alonzo STM32 board ⇨ https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/03/08/use-scheme-functional-programming-language-with-lambdachip-alonzo-stm32-board/ •●• #Linux #GNU #Hardware #cnxsoftware | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/03/08/#latest | Mar 08 15:26 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Use Scheme functional programming language with LambdaChip Alonzo STM32 board | Mar 08 15:26 | |
techrights-bot | #Plasma 5.21 review - Very slick, just one or five oily patches • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148574 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #kde | Mar 08 15:27 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Plasma 5.21 review - Very slick, just one or five oily patches | Tux Machines | Mar 08 15:27 | |
techrights-bot | #GNULinux on #Devices : Jetson Xavier NX, Fast Sense X Robotics AI Platform, Raspberry Pi, and More • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148573 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Mar 08 15:27 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU/Linux on Devices: Jetson Xavier NX, Fast Sense X Robotics AI Platform, Raspberry Pi, and More | Tux Machines | Mar 08 15:27 | |
schestowitz__ | MinceR: yup | Mar 08 15:28 |
schestowitz__ | intel is the fire | Mar 08 15:28 |
schestowitz__ | heating issues | Mar 08 15:29 |
MinceR | :> | Mar 08 15:29 |
MinceR | (cat) https://ircz.de/p/21021447 | Mar 08 15:39 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (5238471) | Mar 08 15:39 | |
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MinceR | https://www.oglaf.com/knightsandknaves/ | Mar 08 17:06 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.oglaf.com | Knights and Knaves | Mar 08 17:06 | |
techrights-bot | #Android Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148575 •●• #Google #Linux #TuxMachines | Mar 08 17:11 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Mar 08 17:11 | |
DaemonFC[m] | Ironically, the flu shot seems to have been more effective against COVID than it was against the flu last year. | Mar 08 17:15 |
DaemonFC[m] | https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20201102/get-your-flu-shot-it-might-shield-you-from-severe-covid#1 | Mar 08 17:15 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.webmd.com | Flu Shot May Shield You From Severe COVID | Mar 08 17:15 | |
techrights-bot | #surveillance by aggressive #espionage giant #google is not a substitute for work; hacking around it doesn't make that any less self-harming. It's also a moving target. https://www.ravsam.in/blog/turning-a-google-sheet-into-a-rest-api/ | Mar 08 17:17 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ravsam.in | Turning a Google Sheet into a REST API | Mar 08 17:17 | |
superkuh | What? Cringe-worthy. | Mar 08 17:17 |
superkuh | It's pretty simple. People that get vaccinated for flu aren't idiots like 66% of the population is. | Mar 08 17:18 |
superkuh | People that get flu vaccine are far more likely to behave rationally in a pandemic. | Mar 08 17:18 |
superkuh | This is such a simple explanation I'm shocked it's even news. | Mar 08 17:18 |
superkuh | I'm not shocked that it is being misinterpreted. | Mar 08 17:19 |
techrights-bot | #LibreOffice QA/Dev Report: February 2021 https://qa.blog.documentfoundation.org/2021/03/08/qa-dev-report-february-2021/ | Mar 08 17:19 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-qa.blog.documentfoundation.org | QA/Dev Report: February 2021 - LibreOffice QA Blog | Mar 08 17:19 | |
techrights-bot | Quick-publishing of poudriere packages https://euroquis.nl//freebsd/2021/03/08/poudriere.html #freebsd #kde #unix #bsd | Mar 08 17:21 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-euroquis.nl | Quick-publishing of poudriere packages | [bobulate] | Mar 08 17:21 | |
techrights-bot | #ibm #redhat : #banks first https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/traditional-doesnt-mean-staid-how-banks-should-be-innovating-today | Mar 08 17:22 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Traditional doesn’t mean staid: how banks should be innovating today | Mar 08 17:22 | |
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schestowitz__ | [17:18] <superkuh> People that get flu vaccine are far more likely to behave rationally in a pandemic. | Mar 08 17:24 |
schestowitz__ | I was thinking the same | Mar 08 17:24 |
schestowitz__ | just walked past a local health centre | Mar 08 17:24 |
schestowitz__ | you can tell who's reckless and who's not | Mar 08 17:24 |
schestowitz__ | afaik, we never got covid and probably will never get it... and might not get any of the current/existing vaccines, either | Mar 08 17:24 |
schestowitz__ | they're a first iteration | Mar 08 17:25 |
superkuh | I will definitely get whatever vaccine first becomes available to me but I'd prefer one of the mRNA ones. | Mar 08 17:25 |
schestowitz__ | DaemonFC[m]: the pharma pushers have webmb | Mar 08 17:25 |
schestowitz__ | they constantly call Mercola "quack" | Mar 08 17:25 |
schestowitz__ | becayse many people follow him, esp. in the US | Mar 08 17:25 |
schestowitz__ | superkuh: what age group? | Mar 08 17:26 |
schestowitz__ | I'm in my 30s, so for me the efficacy/safety is a think to consider. I'm not that desperate or at high risk. | Mar 08 17:26 |
schestowitz__ | *thing | Mar 08 17:26 |
schestowitz__ | DaemonFC[m]: anyway, let's stop bringing up this subject here | Mar 08 17:27 |
schestowitz__ | you move us off topic | Mar 08 17:27 |
schestowitz__ | MinceR: crazy cat lady | Mar 08 17:27 |
schestowitz__ | makes her life worth living | Mar 08 17:27 |
DaemonFC[m] | Mercola is a quack. He sells products on his site that cause tooth decay. | Mar 08 17:28 |
superkuh | 30s. | Mar 08 17:29 |
superkuh | I have been planning for a pandemic since 2006 and I am damn well going to make it through without getting sick. | Mar 08 17:29 |
superkuh | That means a vaccine. | Mar 08 17:29 |
schestowitz__ | yup | Mar 08 17:30 |
schestowitz__ | same here | Mar 08 17:30 |
schestowitz__ | but a good one | Mar 08 17:30 |
schestowitz__ | nothing made in a few months | Mar 08 17:30 |
schestowitz__ | and tested on millions | Mar 08 17:30 |
superkuh | I'm wary of the adenovirus ones. | Mar 08 17:30 |
superkuh | I understand the mRNA ones fully. They're so simple. | Mar 08 17:30 |
superkuh | I do not worry. | Mar 08 17:31 |
superkuh | This is a huge advance in tech and safety. | Mar 08 17:31 |
techrights-bot | The #WorldWideWeb seems like a lost cause because Web browsers, which nowadays determine what the de facto standards are (same problem as 20 years ago), are monopolistic when it comes fundamentals like rendering engines • 𝕿𝖊𝖈𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍𝖙𝖘 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/03/08/proprietary-www/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/08/proprietary-www/ | Mar 08 17:35 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The World Wide Web Has Become Proprietary and the Last Remaining ‘Major’ Browser That Was (Pre-EME) Free Software Is Rapidly Becoming Useless and User-Hostile (It’s Monopoly- and Surveillance-Sponsored) | Techrights | Mar 08 17:35 | |
schestowitz__ | superkuh: yes, but for now there is not always choice | Mar 08 17:36 |
schestowitz__ | and I wait for independent studies | Mar 08 17:36 |
schestowitz__ | not corporations' claims and claims from governments they signed secret deals with, inc. "non-disparagement" | Mar 08 17:36 |
schestowitz__ | Lancet said Sputnik-V is quite effective | Mar 08 17:36 |
DaemonFC[m] | Israel grabbed 100,000 Moderna doses and then didn't even use them. | Mar 08 17:37 |
DaemonFC[m] | Fuckers. | Mar 08 17:37 |
schestowitz__ | putting side Gates bribes to Lancet, it's still more truthworthy than governments | Mar 08 17:37 |
schestowitz__ | DaemonFC[m]: sent abroad I think | Mar 08 17:37 |
schestowitz__ | Honduras and stuff | Mar 08 17:37 |
DaemonFC[m] | They could turn the Moderna ones over to the Palestinian Authority if they're just going to sit there. | Mar 08 17:37 |
DaemonFC[m] | But I doubt they will. | Mar 08 17:37 |
schestowitz__ | Sanders blasted them for it | Mar 08 17:37 |
schestowitz__ | the others did not dare | Mar 08 17:37 |
schestowitz__ | because the Crime Minister would dub them "anti-Semites" | Mar 08 17:38 |
schestowitz__ | that's all those crooks have left | Mar 08 17:38 |
schestowitz__ | using the Holocaust to damn critics 80 years later, no matter the substance of the criticism | Mar 08 17:38 |
schestowitz__ | Right-wing maniacs | Mar 08 17:38 |
schestowitz__ | doing photo ops with Donald Trump | Mar 08 17:38 |
schestowitz__ | anyway, about Lancet | Mar 08 17:38 |
DaemonFC[m] | Yes, you can't criticize us for anything because Holocaust. | Mar 08 17:38 |
schestowitz__ | it does seem to show some efficacy | Mar 08 17:38 |
schestowitz__ | the Russian vaccine has been out for quite some time | Mar 08 17:39 |
schestowitz__ | Western media ridicculed it | Mar 08 17:39 |
DaemonFC[m] | As-if your argument is in favor of bringing the Holocaust back because you want to know 100,000 vaccines didn't go to waste. | Mar 08 17:39 |
schestowitz__ | "vaccine nationalism" | Mar 08 17:39 |
techrights-bot | #FakePatents or #SoftwarePatents again. #swpats are doomed. "On motion to dismiss, the district court found the claims directed to the abstract idea" https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/03/application-directed-technological.html | Mar 08 17:40 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | Make Sure your Patent Application is "DIRECTED TO" a Specific Technological Solution | Mar 08 17:40 | |
DaemonFC[m] | https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/08/politics/supreme-court-free-speech-college-religion-case-chike-uzuegbunam/index.html | Mar 08 17:41 |
techrights-bot | #patents are NOT a "market" and this is a spammy puff piece/ad, not #journalism https://www.juve-patent.com/news-and-stories/people-and-business/young-lawyers-on-the-ascent-in-french-patent-market/ JUVE is NOT doing news, it's a #marketing firm http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Juve | Mar 08 17:41 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Supreme Court -- over John Roberts' sole dissent -- rules in favor of student in First Amendment case - CNNPolitics | Mar 08 17:41 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.juve-patent.com | Young lawyers on the ascent in French patent market - JUVE Patent | Mar 08 17:42 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Juve - Techrights | Mar 08 17:42 | |
DaemonFC[m] | I probably would have joined the majority here. | Mar 08 17:42 |
DaemonFC[m] | Universities are basically Communist strongholds. | Mar 08 17:42 |
DaemonFC[m] | They push Chinese propaganda and Confucius Institutes (more Chinese corruption) while sanctioning religious people for activities that are protected under the constitution. | Mar 08 17:43 |
techrights-bot | #copyright maximalists are still at it http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/03/2021-us-copyright-compendium-series-2.html | Mar 08 17:44 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | 2021 US Copyright Compendium Series #2: Court Decisions - The IPKat | Mar 08 17:44 | |
DaemonFC[m] | They're happy to do it too, even state ones, because they can charge unlimited tuition to rich Chinese (From a Communist state. How does this work?) and fill up all their slots with Chinese students. | Mar 08 17:44 |
DaemonFC[m] | And when you do that, you have to appease their Communist Party. | Mar 08 17:44 |
DaemonFC[m] | So American students get to hear whatever the Chinese government hands an American state university. It's disgusting. Just absolutely revolting. | Mar 08 17:44 |
kingoffrance | its "peace" | Mar 08 17:45 |
DaemonFC[m] | It's up on the list with their other corrupt practices. | Mar 08 17:46 |
DaemonFC[m] | Like stuffing your courses with irrelevant material to force you to squander high interest loan money on stuff that has nothing to do with what you went there to learn. | Mar 08 17:46 |
schestowitz__ | universities are not "Communist strongholds." | Mar 08 17:46 |
schestowitz__ | wth? | Mar 08 17:46 |
schestowitz__ | too much Fox for you? | Mar 08 17:46 |
DaemonFC[m] | Mystery fees. Junk health insurance that's basically fake. | Mar 08 17:46 |
schestowitz__ | most of the foreign students here are European | Mar 08 17:46 |
schestowitz__ | and in the US I can imagine not many Chinese go there, certainly not now | Mar 08 17:47 |
schestowitz__ | anyway, let's get back on topic | Mar 08 17:47 |
schestowitz__ | we don't need this xenophobic crap here | Mar 08 17:47 |
schestowitz__ | let Microsoft pollute the media with it | Mar 08 17:47 |
schestowitz__ | many businesses that used Exchange will move to gnu/linux soon | Mar 08 17:47 |
DaemonFC[m] | Pretty much the only way to get out of it here with the fillings in your fucking teeth, a job, no head full of Communist propaganda, and an actual skill is to go to a trade school. | Mar 08 17:47 |
schestowitz__ | they won't get back to what leaked out all their data | Mar 08 17:48 |
schestowitz__ | due to Microsoft, not "China" | Mar 08 17:48 |
schestowitz__ | bbl | Mar 08 17:48 |
schestowitz__ | need to record some EPO stuff | Mar 08 17:48 |
DaemonFC[m] | What's happening now could have been exfiltrated by any nation state that found the same bug in Microsoft's email software. | Mar 08 17:48 |
DaemonFC[m] | There's no telling what bugs are currently unknown (to Microsoft or the US government, which uses it all over the place) that nation states are sitting on. They burn one every now and then for a high value prize and then that gets patched, but it's too late and there are more. | Mar 08 17:49 |
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DaemonFC[m] | Instead of fixing their bugs, Microsoft spends heavily on a PR blitz to paint everything as a "Linux bug" for false equivalence. | Mar 08 17:50 |
DaemonFC[m] | Well, if it's "just as bad", why switch? | Mar 08 17:50 |
DaemonFC[m] | That's a better investment than fixing bugs in Windows. | Mar 08 17:50 |
DaemonFC[m] | "It'll cost a lot of money to switch to Linux, and when you do it won't be any better. Trust us, and buy all these licenses!". | Mar 08 17:51 |
DaemonFC[m] | "Each time there's an emergency, well fix it when your stealth helicopter engine has already been stolen by the Chinese!" | Mar 08 17:51 |
psydroid | I hope all of these things will only accelerate Microsoft's death, that's at least one useless company less | Mar 08 18:01 |
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MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/21022558 | Mar 08 18:19 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (5271586) | Mar 08 18:19 | |
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techrights-bot | Literal losers https://i.redd.it/p53d3j1urui61.jpg | Mar 08 18:47 |
schestowitz__ | DaemonFC[m]: every bug is either "LINUX" or "computer" | Mar 08 18:47 |
schestowitz__ | computer= Windows | Mar 08 18:47 |
schestowitz__ | "LINUX" = anything running on a server with linux somewhere as the kernel | Mar 08 18:48 |
schestowitz__ | can be some buggy and unpatched (for years) CMS | Mar 08 18:48 |
schestowitz__ | "LINUX" | Mar 08 18:48 |
schestowitz__ | or something with password "goodmorning1" | Mar 08 18:48 |
schestowitz__ | That's also "LINUX" | Mar 08 18:48 |
MinceR | WSL1 is "Linux" without any Linux in it :> | Mar 08 18:49 |
techrights-bot | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148576 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Mar 08 18:50 |
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XRevan86 | MinceR: Check this out: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/47/War_Flag_of_Novorussia.svg | Mar 08 18:50 |
MinceR | :) | Mar 08 18:50 |
MinceR | no stars though | Mar 08 18:50 |
XRevan86 | yea | Mar 08 18:50 |
tdemin | https://linuxreviews.org/Signal_Appears_To_Have_Abandoned_Their_AGPL-licensed_Server_Sourcecode | Mar 08 18:54 |
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DaemonFC[m] | I plan to migrate my laptop to a Linux distribution. Ubuntu is certified by Lenovo. | Mar 08 18:54 |
DaemonFC[m] | So theoretically anything past the OEM kernel version in Ubuntu LTS should work okay. | Mar 08 18:54 |
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DaemonFC[m] | That means maybe Debian 11 and most likely Fedora 33 will work, moreso with the respin that brings in a newer kernel. | Mar 08 19:11 |
DaemonFC[m] | The Linux 5.12 RC1 is apparently a real nightmare if you use a swap file. | Mar 08 19:12 |
DaemonFC[m] | It can randomly swap out anywhere on that partition, even over files. | Mar 08 19:12 |
DaemonFC[m] | So if you don't have swap as a partition then stay away from it until that's fixed. | Mar 08 19:12 |
MinceR | you're not supposed to run an rc kernel outside testing anyway | Mar 08 19:13 |
schestowitz__ | [18:49] <MinceR> WSL1 is "Linux" without any Linux in it :> | Mar 08 19:14 |
schestowitz__ | Earlier I saw a "LINUX" site covering WSL | Mar 08 19:14 |
schestowitz__ | but... | Mar 08 19:14 |
schestowitz__ | to be fair | Mar 08 19:14 |
schestowitz__ | those have become rare | Mar 08 19:14 |
schestowitz__ | WSL is barely mentioned anymore | Mar 08 19:14 |
schestowitz__ | I assume it'll die due to lack of interest | Mar 08 19:14 |
schestowitz__ | it's only mentioned a lot when Microsoft throws lots of money at organics puff piece BS | Mar 08 19:15 |
techrights-bot | Signal = #ProprietarySoftware and you should assume back doors (also see #vault7 leaks and endorsement from regime-changing sociopaths) https://linuxreviews.org/Signal_Appears_To_Have_Abandoned_Their_AGPL-licensed_Server_Sourcecode | Mar 08 19:16 |
MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/21022517 | Mar 08 19:17 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (5269987) | Mar 08 19:17 | |
mjg59 | schestowitz__: It's pretty easy to verify what information is provided to the Signal servers by the client. What are you concerned about in the event of a backdoored server? | Mar 08 19:18 |
tdemin | MinceR: Fedora Rawhide uses rc kernels | Mar 08 19:18 |
schestowitz__ | it's still going? | Mar 08 19:19 |
schestowitz__ | the people who wrote about it in Planet Fedora are gone | Mar 08 19:19 |
MinceR | nobody in their right mind uses fedora | Mar 08 19:19 |
schestowitz__ | Fedora is rotting | Mar 08 19:19 |
schestowitz__ | and after December hacking by IBM | Mar 08 19:19 |
schestowitz__ | hacking as in machete attack | Mar 08 19:19 |
schestowitz__ | against CentOS | Mar 08 19:19 |
schestowitz__ | the Fedora 'community' is 99% IBM staff | Mar 08 19:19 |
schestowitz__ | it's kind of saddening to me | Mar 08 19:19 |
MinceR | it also comes with cancerd, which is unstable, unreliable, insecure, and it will forever stay that way | Mar 08 19:19 |
schestowitz__ | they had some good folks ther | Mar 08 19:19 |
schestowitz__ | *there | Mar 08 19:19 |
schestowitz__ | and some of them got banned | Mar 08 19:20 |
schestowitz__ | they welcomed back Daniel Pocock at least | Mar 08 19:20 |
MinceR | wiping your filesystem fits well with cancerd | Mar 08 19:20 |
schestowitz__ | he still uses Fedora | Mar 08 19:20 |
schestowitz__ | MinceR: so do Ubuntu, Debian... | Mar 08 19:20 |
MinceR | indeed | Mar 08 19:20 |
MinceR | those are even more pointless | Mar 08 19:20 |
schestowitz__ | sad | Mar 08 19:20 |
MinceR | since they ape fedora with a lot of extra work | Mar 08 19:20 |
schestowitz__ | but... | Mar 08 19:20 |
MinceR | and in the end they're still the same shit | Mar 08 19:20 |
schestowitz__ | I think this should not be out #1 concern | Mar 08 19:20 |
schestowitz__ | we can deal with systemd as vendor lock-in later | Mar 08 19:20 |
schestowitz__ | I see migrations away from Red Hat | Mar 08 19:21 |
schestowitz__ | the lock-in is not aggressive enough | Mar 08 19:21 |
MinceR | i'm dealing with moving to some BSD | Mar 08 19:21 |
schestowitz__ | they cannot pull it off | Mar 08 19:21 |
schestowitz__ | MinceR: OK, fair enough | Mar 08 19:21 |
MinceR | and then i can watch the mafias kill what's left of Linux and GNU without being affected | Mar 08 19:21 |
schestowitz__ | figosdev did that too | Mar 08 19:21 |
schestowitz__ | MinceR: that's one option | Mar 08 19:21 |
schestowitz__ | the world runs on gnu/linux | Mar 08 19:21 |
schestowitz__ | and that won't change any time soon | Mar 08 19:21 |
MinceR | the world is thoroughly fucked | Mar 08 19:22 |
schestowitz__ | we can navigate it in some direction | Mar 08 19:22 |
MinceR | and people in general didn't care enough to prevent it | Mar 08 19:22 |
schestowitz__ | MinceR: let's do what's possible | Mar 08 19:22 |
MinceR | even Linux developers didn't feel the need to fork the kernel to save it | Mar 08 19:22 |
schestowitz__ | MinceR: too busy looking after immediate needs | Mar 08 19:22 |
schestowitz__ | like paying the mortgage | Mar 08 19:22 |
schestowitz__ | food, no covid infection etc. | Mar 08 19:22 |
MinceR | hell, we don't even have enough of a community to maintain a good fixed release GNU/Linux distro anymore | Mar 08 19:22 |
MinceR | slackware isn't releasing and devuan has failed to remove a lot of systemd crap | Mar 08 19:23 |
MinceR | and they both seem to come with some form of logind | Mar 08 19:23 |
schestowitz__ | that can change | Mar 08 19:23 |
schestowitz__ | when people move away from rhel | Mar 08 19:23 |
MinceR | it can, but it's getting less and less likely to happen | Mar 08 19:23 |
schestowitz__ | many corporations want the pie | Mar 08 19:23 |
schestowitz__ | or pieces of it | Mar 08 19:23 |
schestowitz__ | Google, Microsoft, AMazon... | Mar 08 19:23 |
MinceR | i guess eventually people will realize that systemd/hartmanux is shit, just as they realized that windows is shit | Mar 08 19:23 |
schestowitz__ | they even make their own bogus distros | Mar 08 19:23 |
MinceR | and then they'll move to the remaining BSD-s | Mar 08 19:23 |
schestowitz__ | and then spam the media with them | Mar 08 19:23 |
MinceR | and then the mafias will try to ruin that one | Mar 08 19:24 |
MinceR | and if the community doesn't learn, they'll succeed | Mar 08 19:24 |
schestowitz__ | the movement became bug enough to be coopted | Mar 08 19:24 |
schestowitz__ | just like feminism | Mar 08 19:24 |
schestowitz__ | not coopted | Mar 08 19:24 |
schestowitz__ | by trolls and corporations that employ them | Mar 08 19:24 |
schestowitz__ | the feminists are still out there | Mar 08 19:24 |
schestowitz__ | the real ones | Mar 08 19:24 |
schestowitz__ | not concern-trolling idiots | Mar 08 19:24 |
schestowitz__ | same for GNU/Linux | Mar 08 19:24 |
schestowitz__ | we're here | Mar 08 19:24 |
schestowitz__ | and we're not a company | Mar 08 19:24 |
schestowitz__ | we fight on | Mar 08 19:25 |
MinceR | there isn't enough of us to maintain something as bloated as Linux | Mar 08 19:25 |
schestowitz__ | true, but | Mar 08 19:25 |
schestowitz__ | we might not need Linux | Mar 08 19:25 |
MinceR | or firefox | Mar 08 19:25 |
schestowitz__ | we can swap for another kernekl | Mar 08 19:25 |
schestowitz__ | Forget www | Mar 08 19:25 |
schestowitz__ | it's too bloated | Mar 08 19:25 |
schestowitz__ | throw it out | Mar 08 19:25 |
schestowitz__ | except for webform stuff | Mar 08 19:25 |
schestowitz__ | let them bloat it to death | Mar 08 19:25 |
schestowitz__ | Mozgle | Mar 08 19:25 |
schestowitz__ | all those spying firms | Mar 08 19:25 |
schestowitz__ | they will break it | Mar 08 19:25 |
schestowitz__ | people will move elsewhere | Mar 08 19:26 |
schestowitz__ | like people abandon Twitter | Mar 08 19:26 |
schestowitz__ | deserting it for being not what it was | Mar 08 19:26 |
schestowitz__ | not a place for real debates | Mar 08 19:26 |
schestowitz__ | but for celebs | Mar 08 19:26 |
schestowitz__ | same for linux | Mar 08 19:26 |
schestowitz__ | became a monopolists' playground | Mar 08 19:26 |
schestowitz__ | LF | Mar 08 19:26 |
*psydroid doesn't want to contribute to or maintain Linux | Mar 08 19:26 | |
schestowitz__ | we can pull the rug from under their feet | Mar 08 19:26 |
schestowitz__ | alpine+ Ariadne are an example | Mar 08 19:26 |
schestowitz__ | they use smaller bits | Mar 08 19:27 |
schestowitz__ | and it gets the job done | Mar 08 19:27 |
schestowitz__ | Linux is not small | Mar 08 19:27 |
schestowitz__ | busybox is | Mar 08 19:27 |
schestowitz__ | and lots you can do with it | Mar 08 19:27 |
MinceR | can they afford to maintain a kernel fork? | Mar 08 19:27 |
schestowitz__ | no | Mar 08 19:27 |
schestowitz__ | but they can replace the kernel | Mar 08 19:27 |
MinceR | then they're doomed too | Mar 08 19:27 |
schestowitz__ | the kernel itself might be doomed | Mar 08 19:27 |
schestowitz__ | windows had many drivers | Mar 08 19:27 |
schestowitz__ | now linux has more drivers than Windows | Mar 08 19:27 |
schestowitz__ | and windows rots away | Mar 08 19:27 |
schestowitz__ | the same can happen to linux | Mar 08 19:28 |
schestowitz__ | and to web browsers | Mar 08 19:28 |
schestowitz__ | too much stuff int here | Mar 08 19:28 |
MinceR | and they're throwing out those drivers | Mar 08 19:28 |
schestowitz__ | that you do not need | Mar 08 19:28 |
schestowitz__ | MS Office... same | Mar 08 19:28 |
schestowitz__ | people move away to 'webapps' | Mar 08 19:28 |
schestowitz__ | with less features | Mar 08 19:28 |
MinceR | iirc they got rid of the floppy driver recently | Mar 08 19:28 |
schestowitz__ | yup | Mar 08 19:28 |
schestowitz__ | Linux is for monopolies | Mar 08 19:28 |
schestowitz__ | not for old hardware | Mar 08 19:28 |
schestowitz__ | the goal is money | Mar 08 19:28 |
schestowitz__ | not maintaining old machines | Mar 08 19:28 |
schestowitz__ | selling more junk | Mar 08 19:28 |
schestowitz__ | look at chat 'apps' | Mar 08 19:29 |
schestowitz__ | we still use IRC | Mar 08 19:29 |
schestowitz__ | we move to gemini | Mar 08 19:29 |
schestowitz__ | ipfs is all command line | Mar 08 19:29 |
schestowitz__ | unless you fancy GUI like Brave | Mar 08 19:29 |
schestowitz__ | and that generally works | Mar 08 19:29 |
schestowitz__ | filtering, firewalls, apache, php, text conversions for bulletins | Mar 08 19:29 |
schestowitz__ | all CLI | Mar 08 19:29 |
schestowitz__ | we're preparing code releases | Mar 08 19:29 |
schestowitz__ | about 100 programs | Mar 08 19:29 |
schestowitz__ | worked on it this past week | Mar 08 19:30 |
schestowitz__ | git command line only | Mar 08 19:30 |
schestowitz__ | no gui, no browsers | Mar 08 19:30 |
schestowitz__ | git -h | Mar 08 19:30 |
schestowitz__ | all you need to get going | Mar 08 19:30 |
Ariadne | [12:27:20] <MinceR> can they afford to maintain a kernel fork? | Mar 08 19:35 |
Ariadne | actually, some people in alpine community are working on a new microkernel to replace linux | Mar 08 19:35 |
MinceR | interesting | Mar 08 19:36 |
techrights-bot | Examining Today’s #EPO #Propaganda About the Disastrous #EQE , a Subject of Much Scorn and EPO #Corruption • 𝕿𝖊𝖈𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍𝖙𝖘 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/03/08/utter-disaster-e-eqe-revisionism/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/08/utter-disaster-e-eqe-revisionism/ | Mar 08 19:37 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Examining Today’s EPO Propaganda About the Disastrous EQE, a Subject of Much Scorn and EPO Corruption | Techrights | Mar 08 19:37 | |
techrights-bot | #Android Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148577 •●• #Google #Linux #TuxMachines | Mar 08 19:38 |
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techrights-bot | #microsoft assassinates #linux https://boilingsteam.com/assassins-greed/ | Mar 08 19:45 |
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techrights-bot | Server Security Tips – Secure Your Server with These Best Practices https://www.freecodecamp.org/news/server-security-tips/ #security tips, not too bad based on a quick reading... | Mar 08 19:53 |
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techrights-bot | Those tun #gnu #linux by default https://www.suse.com/c/running-edge-artificial-intelligence-k3s-cluster-with-nvidia-jetson-nano-boards-src/ | Mar 08 19:54 |
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techrights-bot | #Signal Appears To Have Abandoned Their AGPL-licensed Server Sourcecode • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148578 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #deletegithub | Mar 08 19:57 |
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techrights-bot | #PhotoFiltre Like Image Editor ‘Photoflare’ 1.6.7 Released with Paint Tool Offsets • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148579 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Mar 08 19:57 |
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techrights-bot | #Fedora Magazine: How to use Poetry to manage your #Python projects on Fedora https://fedoramagazine.org/how-to-use-poetry-to-manage-your-python-projects-on-fedora/ | Mar 08 20:01 |
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techrights-bot | Use #gImageReader to Extract Text From Images and PDFs on Linux • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148580 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Mar 08 20:01 |
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techrights-bot | #PhotoFiltre Like Image Editor ‘Photoflare’ 1.6.7 Released with Paint Tool Offsets • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148579 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Mar 08 20:03 |
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techrights-bot | SPAM destroys the #internet (many are #microsoft #windows botnets as well) https://wingolog.org/archives/2021/03/08/99-spam | Mar 08 20:05 |
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techrights-bot | "In the first days of Android, the main focus was building a more open and flexible mobile operating system. Security was state-of-the-art for the time, inherited from the world of Unix and mainframe computers." https://news.samsung.com/us/understanding-samsung-knox-vault-protecting-data-matters-most/ | Mar 08 20:07 |
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techrights-bot | The EPO’s #eEQE was a complete and utter disaster; but in an act of overt revisionism (i.e. the usual from this administration) the #EPO pretends everything went well, bar a minor glitch lasing a few minutes • 𝕿𝖊𝖈𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍𝖙𝖘 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/03/08/utter-disaster-e-eqe-revisionism/ •●• #EQE #patent #corruption gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/08/utter-disaster-e-e | Mar 08 20:08 |
techrights-bot | New release of French and #debian #gnu #linux -based distro #liveRaizo (12.21.03.04) https://sourceforge.net/projects/live-raizo/ | Mar 08 20:10 |
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techrights-bot | "...a volunteer is needed to create the Github Actions workflow" ... No, #deletegithub , #rakulang ... it's #ProprietarySoftware and a monopolistic trap looking to undermine everything but #microsoft https://rakudoweekly.blog/2021/03/08/2021-10-automated-star/ | Mar 08 20:12 |
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techrights-bot | Eileen McDermott from #patent #extremism site #watchtroll calls a bunch of corrupt politicians, some of them bribed by patent profiteers and litigation fanatics, a "Bipartisan Group of Senators". This site cannot be taken seriously. http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Watchtroll | Mar 08 20:17 |
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techrights-bot | I've just updated http://techrights.org/2021/03/08/utter-disaster-e-eqe-revisionism/ with an important comment (minutes old). #epo will received major blowback over these lies... | Mar 08 20:21 |
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techrights-bot | #NomadBSD 1.4 overview | A persistent live system for your USB flash drive http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148376#comment-28548 #bsd #unix | Mar 08 20:26 |
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techrights-bot | #freesw racer Yorg has a new release with improved #gamepad support | GamingOnLinux ⇨ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/03/foss-racer-yorg-has-a-new-release-with-improved-gamepad-support •●• #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux | Mar 08 20:32 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-FOSS racer Yorg has a new release with improved gamepad support | GamingOnLinux | Mar 08 20:32 | |
techrights-bot | "Remember the craziness of Goat Simulator? Wanted Raccoon has a familiar theme of animals going wild and it's entering Early Access on March 19 with #GNU #Linux support." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/03/wanted-raccoon-is-an-upcoming-comedy-game-in-the-spirit-of-goat-simulator | Mar 08 20:33 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Wanted Raccoon is an upcoming comedy game in the spirit of Goat Simulator | GamingOnLinux | Mar 08 20:33 | |
liberty_box | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=736fiBMtADg - Michael | Mar 08 20:33 |
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techrights-bot | Building a Retro Linux Gaming Computer - Part 2: Selecting a Graphics Card https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/03/building-a-retro-linux-gaming-computer-part-2-selecting-a-graphics-card #games #gnu #linux | Mar 08 20:34 |
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techrights-bot | #techrights has a big, new and exclusive #gnu #linux story coming. It's about #swpats / #patent blackmail. | Mar 08 20:37 |
techrights-bot | US #imperialism "not the only ones who need a secure traffic analysis resistant anonymity network like Tor. UN human rights lawyer Emma Reilly says it is "great" when working with human rights defenders." https://linuxreviews.org/United_Nations_Whisteblower_Says_The_Tor_Anonymity_Network_Is_Great_For_Human_Rights_Work | Mar 08 20:38 |
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techrights-bot | #Security Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148582 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Mar 08 20:42 |
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techrights-bot | 10 Best #Compression Tools for GNU/Linux • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148583 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Mar 08 20:42 |
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techrights-bot | #Games : Assassin’s Greed, Yorg, Wanted Raccoon and More • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148584 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Mar 08 20:43 |
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techrights-bot | #mozilla : we USED to be about tech... https://blog.mozilla.org/firefox/sophia-keys-apricity-ceramics-woman-owned-online-business/ | Mar 08 20:47 |
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MinceR | apparently this works >> https://gist.github.com/bahamas10/aee4cc121c29e6657a91fc53418356c7 | Mar 08 20:58 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gist.github.com | Void Linux on Raspberry Pi 4 · GitHub | Mar 08 20:58 | |
MinceR | (and doesn't rely on raspberry os) | Mar 08 20:59 |
psydroid | I "almost" got netbsd running on my orange pi last year, but the keyboard didn't work with the pine64 image | Mar 08 21:05 |
techrights-bot | #GNOME 40 Mutter Lands Wayland Presentation-Time Support • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148581 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Mar 08 21:05 |
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psydroid | and I can't get it installed on any of my x86 machines | Mar 08 21:05 |
MinceR | :( | Mar 08 21:08 |
schestowitz__ | ha | Mar 08 21:09 |
schestowitz__ | if the rasp doesn't work out for you, try the Orange One | Mar 08 21:09 |
techrights-bot | The #raspberryPi Foundation attack on #privacy is not a new thing. Many people don't remember that when they launched a physical store they rejected cash payments, i.e. they demand to know your ID if you buy the product. Now they send #MICROSOFT a list and location of all users. #raspberrySpy #WashOnCash | Mar 08 21:11 |
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MinceR | there's also a devuan image here, but i haven't tried it yet >> https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=3209&p=4 | Mar 08 21:14 |
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dev1galaxy.org | Is any work planned for devuan on the raspberry pi 4? (Page 4) / ARM Builds / Dev1 Galaxy Forum | Mar 08 21:14 | |
mjg59 | There are Debian images that work absolutely fine on the Pi at https://wiki.debian.org/RaspberryPiImages | Mar 08 21:16 |
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mjg59 | The downside is that the 0 and 1 implement the ARMv6 ISA, and Debian don't target that, so performance on that hardware is a little lower | Mar 08 21:17 |
mjg59 | The 2, 3 and 4 are all ARMv7, though, and work fine with the Debian armhf packages | Mar 08 21:17 |
MinceR | problem is, debian images come with cancerd | Mar 08 21:19 |
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mjg59 | Sure. And you can still replace it with another init system if you want. | Mar 08 21:21 |
psydroid | I'm only going to keep Debian on my two laptops and maybe an ARM SBC | Mar 08 21:21 |
psydroid | I've already wiped it from several of my older systems | Mar 08 21:22 |
MinceR | if i don't mind losing access to a lot of packages in the process | Mar 08 21:27 |
MinceR | and what's the point of deadian if one has no access to packages? | Mar 08 21:27 |
mjg59 | The number of packages that have runtime dependencies on systemd is very small | Mar 08 21:27 |
mjg59 | There's a number that link to libsystemd, but that doesn't do anything if systemd isn't running | Mar 08 21:27 |
psydroid | indeed | Mar 08 21:32 |
MinceR | until your masters decide to push some malicious code into it | Mar 08 21:33 |
MinceR | which then deadian dutifully updates on the victim's computers | Mar 08 21:33 |
MinceR | not to mention the whole *logind mess | Mar 08 21:33 |
psydroid | opensuse stealthily re-enabled secure boot on my other laptop | Mar 08 21:34 |
psydroid | I only have it installed as a backup, but that was a backhanded move as well | Mar 08 21:34 |
MinceR | backhanded moves are what the "modern" crowd is all about | Mar 08 21:35 |
mjg59 | Debian doesn't do significant backports to stable releases | Mar 08 21:38 |
mjg59 | So during the lifetime of a release, there's no risk that a dramatically difference libsystemd is going to show up | Mar 08 21:39 |
MinceR | i don't trust them to look carefully at the source code of their favorite library to decide whether the new version is "dramatically different" or not | Mar 08 21:42 |
MinceR | especially not when their masters at ibm can just force them to adopt anything by changing systemd or gnome | Mar 08 21:42 |
mjg59 | For the lifetime of a stable release, the only changes that go in are reviewed by multiple people | Mar 08 21:43 |
mjg59 | Packages don't end up in stable updates without additional review from the release team | Mar 08 21:43 |
psydroid | neither do I, that's why I get rid of it wherever I can | Mar 08 21:43 |
MinceR | systemd itself was reviewed by multiple people | Mar 08 21:43 |
MinceR | and they decided it was "stable" | Mar 08 21:43 |
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psydroid | the problem was not caused during the past decade but long before, when corporations got involved with the disingenuous message of working on software for the greater good | Mar 08 21:53 |
psydroid | a bait and switch tactic so no one thought of forking GNU and Linux right then and there | Mar 08 21:54 |
psydroid | now it's too late and better to start from scratch | Mar 08 21:54 |
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vmg3 | nothing is off limits, does it make sense or am I just being parinoid. how is using the data being used an by who? https://www.techhive.com/article/3610735/google-tv-gets-kids-profiles-and-screen-time-limits.html#tk.rss_all | Mar 08 22:28 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Google TV gets kids profiles and screen time limits | TechHive | Mar 08 22:28 | |
vmg3 | Maybe I should just embrace the big G and poison all my data, rather than spread it further to more sites and software I don't understand. So many security implications. | Mar 08 22:36 |
psydroid | just plug into the Gootrix and life will be great | Mar 08 22:38 |
vmg3 | limiting exposure | Mar 08 22:39 |
MinceR | (cat) https://ircz.de/p/21021321 | Mar 08 22:41 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (5235063) | Mar 08 22:41 | |
mjg59 | vmg3: Accounts flagged as being for children actually have to collect less data than for adults | Mar 08 22:45 |
vmg3 | mjg59: It makes sense but... | Mar 08 22:46 |
mjg59 | There's a lot of laws that provide additional restrictions | Mar 08 22:47 |
vmg3 | like do not track? | Mar 08 22:47 |
mjg59 | Honestly not certain of the specifics | Mar 08 22:47 |
vmg3 | the harder I try to become private, the further I open myself to risk | Mar 08 22:48 |
vmg3 | it seems to me, anyway | Mar 08 22:48 |
vmg3 | i was going to loose lastpass but downloading the csv is a huge risk | Mar 08 22:49 |
vmg3 | changing browsers that import gives another company my data | Mar 08 22:50 |
vmg3 | avoiding US products is painful | Mar 08 22:50 |
vmg3 | even donation process exposes data | Mar 08 22:52 |
vmg3 | damned if you do, damned if you don't situation | Mar 08 22:53 |
vmg3 | end to end encryption should be trustworthy? | Mar 08 22:54 |
vmg3 | until there's a keylogger | Mar 08 22:56 |
mjg59 | Yeah, which is why this argument about the Signal server source code is so pointless | Mar 08 22:56 |
mjg59 | From a security perspective, at least - failing to provide updates to a nominal free software project is a pretty dick move | Mar 08 22:57 |
mjg59 | But the client code is open, and it's possible to verify what data it's providing | Mar 08 22:57 |
vmg3 | yeah | Mar 08 22:58 |
mjg59 | Even if the current server source *were* available, you wouldn't be able to prove that that's what's running | Mar 08 22:58 |
mjg59 | You have to assume that the server is backdoored whether you have the source or not | Mar 08 22:58 |
MinceR | it doesn't matter, signal was already untrustworthy | Mar 08 22:58 |
vmg3 | you're feeding my parinoa | Mar 08 22:59 |
MinceR | they were trying to force people to only use their official binaries | Mar 08 22:59 |
vmg3 | yet I've seen so many claim it's the best | Mar 08 22:59 |
MinceR | many people are wrong, that's business as usual | Mar 08 22:59 |
vmg3 | my head hurts | Mar 08 23:00 |
MinceR | so does mine | Mar 08 23:00 |
vmg3 | well just knowing that makes me feel a little better | Mar 08 23:00 |
mjg59 | MinceR: It's trivial to determine that their binaries correspond to their source code | Mar 08 23:03 |
mjg59 | What's the threat you're worried about | Mar 08 23:03 |
mjg59 | ? | Mar 08 23:03 |
MinceR | lack of software freedom | Mar 08 23:04 |
MinceR | what if their binaries don't correspond to their source code? | Mar 08 23:05 |
DaemonFC[m] | Mandy is running a fever and has aches and chills from the vaccine. | Mar 08 23:05 |
mjg59 | MinceR: Then questions should be asked | Mar 08 23:05 |
DaemonFC[m] | Covered under a three day leave with pay policy at Walmart. No points for calling in. | Mar 08 23:05 |
MinceR | or one could just use free software for secure communication | Mar 08 23:06 |
mjg59 | That's a reasonable preference | Mar 08 23:07 |
DaemonFC[m] | For most people side effects last no more than 3 days. I guess we'll cross that bridge when we come to.it. | Mar 08 23:07 |
mjg59 | But it's simply wrong to imply that there's no way to verify whether or not they're trustworthy | Mar 08 23:07 |
MinceR | well, it's easy to verify | Mar 08 23:07 |
DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: "No. The bridge is too heavily guarded.". | Mar 08 23:07 |
DaemonFC[m] | (SG-1) | Mar 08 23:07 |
MinceR | :> | Mar 08 23:08 |
MinceR | they whined about people packaging signal for f-droid | Mar 08 23:08 |
MinceR | their server side is nonfree | Mar 08 23:08 |
MinceR | obviously, they do not respect the users' freedom | Mar 08 23:08 |
MinceR | and nonfree software can't be trusted to be secure | Mar 08 23:09 |
mjg59 | Like I said, it's perfectly reasonable to prioritise those things when making a choice | Mar 08 23:09 |
mjg59 | But the security aspect of it can be verified to the same extent that any free software can be verified | Mar 08 23:09 |
MinceR | but if you try to fix it and share the fixes with your neighbor, that's supposed to be undesirable, according to them | Mar 08 23:10 |
MinceR | what are they hiding? | Mar 08 23:10 |
MinceR | and you can't verify the server side at all | Mar 08 23:11 |
MinceR | let alone host your own | Mar 08 23:11 |
mjg59 | In the hypothetical case that the Signal team are untrustworthy, and they backdoor the server code, why would they put the backdoor in the public code? | Mar 08 23:12 |
mjg59 | How would you verify that their server is running what's published? | Mar 08 23:12 |
MinceR | i could host my own instead | Mar 08 23:12 |
MinceR | and what's preventing them from having more than one backdoor? | Mar 08 23:13 |
mjg59 | Yeah, but then you wouldn't be able to communicate with anyone not using your instance | Mar 08 23:13 |
vmg3 | or running a scraper | Mar 08 23:13 |
MinceR | or i could just run a service that is distributed | Mar 08 23:13 |
MinceR | like tox or ricochet | Mar 08 23:13 |
mjg59 | You could definitely do that | Mar 08 23:13 |
mjg59 | But that's an argument in favour of decentralised services rather than against Signal itself | Mar 08 23:14 |
mjg59 | But ok, we have a distributed service | Mar 08 23:14 |
mjg59 | You want to send a message to someone | Mar 08 23:14 |
mjg59 | How do you determine that they're using a legitimate server that hasn't been backdoored? | Mar 08 23:15 |
MinceR | i probably can't, unless i'm running the server | Mar 08 23:15 |
mjg59 | Yeah | Mar 08 23:15 |
mjg59 | Which means if you want strong security guarantees, the distributed aspect of it doesn't help | Mar 08 23:15 |
mjg59 | Because you need everyone you want to talk to to be using your server | Mar 08 23:16 |
MinceR | actually the distributed aspect is exactly what can help | Mar 08 23:16 |
vmg3 | If the CISA can't tell? | Mar 08 23:16 |
MinceR | because if there's no centralized server, there's nothing to compromise other than the clients | Mar 08 23:16 |
mjg59 | There's an alternative, which is to design the protocol so that the server has no access to the message contents | Mar 08 23:17 |
MinceR | in which case they can still screw with you by shutting down the server | Mar 08 23:17 |
MinceR | and then there you are, having wasted lots of resources on setting up and using a system you can not even use | Mar 08 23:17 |
mjg59 | True! That's still a reliability argument rather than a security argument | Mar 08 23:18 |
MinceR | or they can change the server code so it refuses to work with the client you had, and instead forces you to use a client that does let the server access the message contents | Mar 08 23:18 |
MinceR | well, availability is still an aspect of security | Mar 08 23:18 |
mjg59 | The client code is released under a free license and you can verify that the provided binary corresponds to it | Mar 08 23:19 |
MinceR | the new client code might not even be released under a free license, or with source code | Mar 08 23:19 |
psydroid | <vmg3 "you're feeding my parinoa "> we'd rather feed your koala | Mar 08 23:19 |
MinceR | what can you do? the server won't work with it and your contacts are waiting for you to "upgrade" | Mar 08 23:19 |
vmg3 | lol | Mar 08 23:19 |
MinceR | and your system might automatically do the "upgrade" for you | Mar 08 23:20 |
mjg59 | MinceR: You don't think people would object to Signal suddenly passing sensitive material to the server? | Mar 08 23:20 |
MinceR | did people object to their earlier hostile behavior? | Mar 08 23:22 |
mjg59 | Some people, yeah. But it didn't alter the amount of data going to the server, so there wasn't a huge amount. | Mar 08 23:22 |
MinceR | so signal users generally don't care about privacy or security or freedom | Mar 08 23:24 |
vmg3 | care and belief are differnt things | Mar 08 23:24 |
mjg59 | I'd say most don't care about freedom. | Mar 08 23:25 |
mjg59 | But nothing Signal has done has changed the privacy or security model that previously existed | Mar 08 23:26 |
MinceR | because it was already broken to begin with | Mar 08 23:26 |
mjg59 | From a security or privacy perspective? Not really. | Mar 08 23:27 |
DaemonFC[m] | You mean the famous "It's proprietary so you don't know what it does. Just trust us. It's secure." model? | Mar 08 23:32 |
DaemonFC[m] | mjg59 participated in something like this. | Mar 08 23:32 |
DaemonFC[m] | https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/ | Mar 08 23:34 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.worldometers.info | United States Coronavirus: 29,739,569 Cases and 538,534 Deaths - Worldometer | Mar 08 23:34 | |
DaemonFC[m] | This is the mildest day of COVID in the last 4 months. Lowest numbers for a Monday in over half a year. | Mar 08 23:35 |
DaemonFC[m] | It's the vaccines. | Mar 08 23:35 |
mjg59 | DaemonFC[m]: No, all the code that you need to verify that it's secure is under a free license | Mar 08 23:36 |
DaemonFC[m] | The implementation is proprietary and the user can't fix it even if it's seriously broken. | Mar 08 23:36 |
mjg59 | That doesn't require you to trust the vendor to determine whether it's secure | Mar 08 23:37 |
vmg3 | slip on the golden handcuffs, everything changes. | Mar 08 23:39 |
DaemonFC[m] | It's nice that Walmart anticipated some people getting sick from the vaccine and chose not to hold it against them or make them go without pay. | Mar 08 23:40 |
DaemonFC[m] | My mom doesn't get that guarantee and she's a nurse. | Mar 08 23:40 |
DaemonFC[m] | The second dose is definitely more potent in Mandy's case. He didn't really react to the first one other than a sore arm. | Mar 08 23:40 |
DaemonFC[m] | But it seems manageable here at home over the next couple of days. | Mar 08 23:41 |
MinceR | could just be the immune system being more aggressive this time | Mar 08 23:41 |
MinceR | iirc i read somewhere that this is normal | Mar 08 23:41 |
DaemonFC[m] | I have to drive 3 hours back home after getting my next dose. | Mar 08 23:41 |
DaemonFC[m] | I had side effects the first time, it just wasn't terrible. | Mar 08 23:42 |
DaemonFC[m] | I'm going to get back here as fast as I can before it starts. | Mar 08 23:42 |
DaemonFC[m] | The majority of people seem to be fine the evening of their first dose and it's the next morning that there are symptoms. | Mar 08 23:42 |
DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: It's just good to know that between the federal government and Walmart, we're safe. | Mar 08 23:45 |
MinceR | lol | Mar 08 23:45 |
DaemonFC[m] | You know, safe from COVID because we took precautions and got to the vaccine. | Mar 08 23:45 |
DaemonFC[m] | Safe from Mandy getting fired because Walmart is making an exception to their sick policy for vaccine side effects. | Mar 08 23:45 |
DaemonFC[m] | Safe from falling into financial harm because I've budgeted well and Walmart will pay him for the time off he needed (not digging into his PTO even!) and President Biden is signing the law that sends $2,800 to help shore up our finances too. | Mar 08 23:46 |
DaemonFC[m] | I doubt that Orban is managing things so well. | Mar 08 23:46 |
DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: The whole year has felt like one of those Aliens movies where it's moving around the air ducts looking for the next person to kill and lay eggs in. | Mar 08 23:47 |
MinceR | the whole system is collapsing over here | Mar 08 23:47 |
DaemonFC[m] | Only, 42% of the public (Trump's base) don't believe it's in there. | Mar 08 23:47 |
MinceR | there was some sort of plan to call people in for the AZ vaccine via SMS messages, but they sent them to the wrong people and sent the people to the wrong places | Mar 08 23:49 |
MinceR | so they called them back | Mar 08 23:50 |
MinceR | it's a huge mess | Mar 08 23:50 |
DaemonFC[m] | LMAO | Mar 08 23:51 |
DaemonFC[m] | Hey wrong people. Go stand in line in the wrong place for a vaccine that's not there. I'm sure none of you will get COVID from that. Love, Orban. | Mar 08 23:51 |
MinceR | it was there, it was just sometimes 160 km from where the person lived | Mar 08 23:52 |
DaemonFC[m] | That doesn't sound worse than what we have to deal with. | Mar 08 23:52 |
MinceR | and they sometimes got an appointment so that they had no way of getting home from the vaccination place, especially before curfew | Mar 08 23:52 |
DaemonFC[m] | 24 total hours of driving to vaccinate two people. | Mar 08 23:52 |
MinceR | and they called in many people who already received their vaccine (both doses) | Mar 08 23:53 |
DaemonFC[m] | Who the hell is voting for these people? | Mar 08 23:53 |
MinceR | idiots | Mar 08 23:53 |
MinceR | though the polite term is "conservatives" | Mar 08 23:53 |
DaemonFC[m] | This is worse than what would have happened even with a second term of Trump. | Mar 08 23:53 |
DaemonFC[m] | You realize that? | Mar 08 23:53 |
MinceR | well, for that particular group of idiots, anyway | Mar 08 23:53 |
MinceR | probably, yeah | Mar 08 23:54 |
MinceR | maybe twitler could have done in his second term what orban did in 2010 | Mar 08 23:54 |
MinceR | but that's still 10 years behind of us | Mar 08 23:54 |
MinceR | there was also a phone number you were supposed to call if you knew of errors in their system | Mar 08 23:55 |
MinceR | the gypsy king didn't know it, so he said the fake "doctor" will inform the people of it | Mar 08 23:55 |
MinceR | but the fake "doctor" didn't know it either | Mar 08 23:56 |
MinceR | it took them several days to figure it out and inform the people | Mar 08 23:56 |
CrystalMath | DaemonFC[m]: what if Alien was actually the good guy? | Mar 08 23:56 |
CrystalMath | i mean think about it, it's just a creature trying to survive | Mar 08 23:57 |
CrystalMath | it was Ripley that kinda set out to extinct it | Mar 08 23:57 |
CrystalMath | goddamn humans, always trying to drive other species to extinction | Mar 08 23:58 |
MinceR | yeah | Mar 08 23:58 |
CrystalMath | i think there's nothing wrong with Sarbecovirus | Mar 08 23:59 |
CrystalMath | it evolved here... if you don't like it, find your own planet | Mar 08 23:59 |
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