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schestowitz__oh, don't mention this to the corporate trollMar 08 00:13
schestowitz__http://techrights.org/2021/03/06/astroturfing-vs-grassroots/Mar 08 00:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Corporations Do Not Represent Communities and Activists, They Just Exploit Them, Discredit Them, and Hijack Their Hard Work | TechrightsMar 08 00:13
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schestowitz__oopsMar 08 00:14
schestowitz__瑨灴⼺琯捥牨杩瑨�牯⽧〲ㄲ〯⼳㜰是獯�数灯敬琭慲晦捩楫杮Mar 08 00:14
schestowitz__this is a bugMar 08 00:14
schestowitz__in BarrierMar 08 00:14
schestowitz__http://techrights.org/2021/03/07/foss-people-trafficking/Mar 08 00:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | When I Discovered People Trafficking in Free/Open Source Software | TechrightsMar 08 00:14
schestowitz__Google againMar 08 00:14
vmg3chinarMar 08 00:14
schestowitz__nice companies, eh?Mar 08 00:14
schestowitz__vmg3: it's a longstanding issue in Synergy as wellMar 08 00:15
schestowitz__something about encodingMar 08 00:15
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vmg3like locusts they seem to growMar 08 00:17
schestowitz__at least we know why the Google trolls are so eager to discredit and cancel the truth-telling elementsMar 08 00:18
schestowitz__lots of skeletons to hideMar 08 00:18
schestowitz__but we'll dig deeper...Mar 08 00:18
schestowitz__the old emails are coming backMar 08 00:18
vmg3big fish eat the little fishMar 08 00:19
vmg3you have been busyMar 08 00:20
schestowitz__who, me?Mar 08 00:23
vmg3yeah, into Au eventsMar 08 00:23
vmg3Broken people, broken system.  Christian Porter breaks law  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyk5ri8mU90Mar 08 00:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Christian Porter breaks law - YouTubeMar 08 00:24
schestowitz__curious nationMar 08 00:30
vmg3infiltration was a slow process, seems complete nowMar 08 00:30
schestowitz__faking feminismMar 08 00:30
schestowitz__guysMar 08 00:30
schestowitz__like the google trollMar 08 00:31
schestowitz__concern trollsMar 08 00:31
vmg3it has ties to media, religion, money and powerMar 08 00:31
schestowitz__crate vacuumMar 08 00:31
schestowitz__infiltrateMar 08 00:31
schestowitz__#cancelPersonMar 08 00:32
*vmg3 wonders what % of $ it should take to run and org?Mar 08 00:32
schestowitz__fsfe 20%+ googleMar 08 00:32
schestowitz__for agesMar 08 00:32
schestowitz__google was also a top fsf sponsor for a few yearsMar 08 00:32
schestowitz__I don't know who rejected who at the endMar 08 00:33
vmg3trick down ecenomics Mar 08 00:33
schestowitz__it's not impossible fsf itself decided to put an end to itMar 08 00:33
schestowitz__seeing what google had becomeMar 08 00:33
schestowitz__they create vacuumMar 08 00:33
schestowitz__like they did with RMSMar 08 00:33
schestowitz__while a google-funded troll pushed for itMar 08 00:33
vmg3even charity here has the same problemMar 08 00:33
schestowitz__there are corporate charities tooMar 08 00:34
schestowitz__fake onesMar 08 00:34
schestowitz__like Linux FoundationMar 08 00:34
schestowitz__and http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gates_Foundation_CritiqueMar 08 00:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Gates Foundation Critique - TechrightsMar 08 00:34
vmg3to get the tax free status Mar 08 00:34
schestowitz__yupMar 08 00:34
schestowitz__whatever they claim to have spent on something "good" is by far exceeded by the savings in tax avoidanceMar 08 00:34
vmg3you're 3 steps ahead of meMar 08 00:35
schestowitz__LF does it too, and it harms the "LINUX" brand http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Linux_FoundationMar 08 00:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation - TechrightsMar 08 00:35
schestowitz__makes Linux seem or feel just as corrupt as anythingMar 08 00:35
vmg3so we get pushed backwards Mar 08 00:36
schestowitz__yupMar 08 00:37
vmg3on the news yesterday our health minister was singing Bills praisesMar 08 00:37
schestowitz__the goal is to leave the community in disarrayMar 08 00:37
schestowitz__one tactic is blackmail, others are shame tacticsMar 08 00:37
vmg3our status quo Mar 08 00:37
schestowitz__http://techrights.org/2021/03/05/google-funded-trolls/Mar 08 00:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Professional Troll Matthew Garrett Spreads Libel, Defamation and Slander About the Free Software Community to Entertain Microsoft and Friends | TechrightsMar 08 00:37
schestowitz__the corporates sometimes even convince themselves  that they are a force for goodMar 08 00:38
schestowitz__against "unruly" and "rude" grassrootsMar 08 00:38
schestowitz__but the goal isn't to mislead themselves but the publicMar 08 00:38
vmg3it creates cynical peopleMar 08 00:38
schestowitz__vmg3: is not, Bill can engineer his oustingMar 08 00:38
schestowitz__your health minister prasied a friend of child traffficking monstersMar 08 00:39
schestowitz__how's THAT for healthMar 08 00:39
vmg3he did have a quick mention of not being to happy with windowsMar 08 00:39
schestowitz__anyway, yes, cynicism is thus overdueMar 08 00:39
vmg3but even played that downMar 08 00:40
schestowitz__Aussie is a strange nationMar 08 00:40
schestowitz__to meMar 08 00:40
vmg3all the hacks are getting to emMar 08 00:40
schestowitz__I cannot compare it to CanadaMar 08 00:40
vmg3and meMar 08 00:40
schestowitz__South Africa is also differentMar 08 00:40
schestowitz__took me a while to understand what the media isn't tellingMar 08 00:40
schestowitz__by meeting people from thereMar 08 00:40
vmg3it use the word liberal but it's been butchered Mar 08 00:40
schestowitz__liberal is a tainted word nowMar 08 00:41
schestowitz__it's exploited by corporate elementsMar 08 00:41
schestowitz__neo-liberal is anotherMar 08 00:41
schestowitz__so I'd rather avoid that wordMar 08 00:41
schestowitz__too tainted to fixMar 08 00:41
vmg3yepMar 08 00:41
schestowitz__you say "I'm a liberal"Mar 08 00:41
schestowitz__people might think, "I suppose bombing Libya"Mar 08 00:41
schestowitz__*supportMar 08 00:41
schestowitz__and you don't want that..Mar 08 00:42
schestowitz__"progressive" as a term also become a bit problematicMar 08 00:42
schestowitz__so best to avoid labels completelyMar 08 00:42
vmg3yeah,  I still think education systems are part of the problemMar 08 00:42
schestowitz__"hacker" is also a labelMar 08 00:42
schestowitz__to many people hacker means "criminal" nowMar 08 00:42
vmg3from getting something working to a criminalMar 08 00:43
schestowitz__and the communication channels too are under attackMar 08 00:43
schestowitz__edu system stonewallsMar 08 00:43
schestowitz__and opens up to mogulsMar 08 00:43
schestowitz__and the powerful peopleMar 08 00:43
vmg3they are money machines hereMar 08 00:43
schestowitz__so they engineer or condition people's minds earlyMar 08 00:43
schestowitz__twitter now bans unconventional postsMar 08 00:43
schestowitz__they egg on professional trollsMar 08 00:44
schestowitz__cultsMar 08 00:44
schestowitz__even jihadistsMar 08 00:44
vmg3I only see twitter in other sites embeded nowMar 08 00:44
schestowitz__those are fine, that's "tolerance"Mar 08 00:44
schestowitz__but don't go against those, that would be IN-toleranceMar 08 00:44
schestowitz__Twitter is fallingMar 08 00:44
schestowitz__traffic-wiseMar 08 00:44
schestowitz__it was a lot more influential years agoMar 08 00:45
vmg3I noticed this morning google sharing is a shambles. Mar 08 00:45
schestowitz__gemini has some promiseMar 08 00:45
vmg3all for social controlMar 08 00:45
schestowitz__we need to cultivate and foster it a bit, though it can take timeMar 08 00:45
schestowitz__and guard against rogue actorsMar 08 00:45
vmg3yeah.  retro trendy?Mar 08 00:45
schestowitz__who will try to associate it with "Radical" or "Terrorist" or something..Mar 08 00:46
schestowitz__vmg3: it does not have to be retroMar 08 00:46
schestowitz__you can 'skin' itMar 08 00:46
schestowitz__by which I mean themingMar 08 00:46
schestowitz__the base itself is light and simpleMar 08 00:46
vmg3folks like to likeMar 08 00:46
schestowitz__TLS is not retroMar 08 00:46
schestowitz__IRC is not retro eitherMar 08 00:46
schestowitz__it's light and the protocols are kept simpleMar 08 00:47
vmg3practical Mar 08 00:47
schestowitz__this way they support even old IRC clientsMar 08 00:47
schestowitz__rather than impose bloat and spying on usersMar 08 00:47
schestowitz__this is why we won't be moving to MatrixMar 08 00:47
vmg3yeah, too many love the bloatMar 08 00:47
schestowitz__there are Matrix bridges for IRC anywayMar 08 00:47
schestowitz__fake novelty isn't a thingMar 08 00:47
schestowitz__bloat has a tollMar 08 00:47
schestowitz__entry barrier, portability, abandonwareMar 08 00:48
schestowitz__like writing an application in a large framework that won't be around in 10-20 yearsMar 08 00:48
vmg3its part of the marketing too, upgrade or get left behindMar 08 00:48
schestowitz__shaming tacticsMar 08 00:48
schestowitz__get phone version x+1Mar 08 00:48
schestowitz__"what will your friends think?"Mar 08 00:48
schestowitz__BTWMar 08 00:48
schestowitz__Aussie mediaMar 08 00:48
schestowitz__recently mocked usMar 08 00:49
schestowitz__for using IRCMar 08 00:49
schestowitz__THis was in relation to Torvalds talking abour our revelationsMar 08 00:49
vmg3it's not part of the machineMar 08 00:49
schestowitz__so they use JoomlaMar 08 00:49
schestowitz__or Mambo (still!)Mar 08 00:49
schestowitz__and then mock us for using IRCMar 08 00:49
schestowitz__while they barely maintain their truly broken siteMar 08 00:49
schestowitz__itwireMar 08 00:49
schestowitz__which is down some of the time and hides behind clownflareMar 08 00:49
vmg3even for our views on privacyMar 08 00:49
schestowitz__views on privacy changedMar 08 00:50
schestowitz__it's no longer regarded "paranoid" to value privacyMar 08 00:50
schestowitz__but...Mar 08 00:50
schestowitz__privacy-washing is rampantMar 08 00:50
schestowitz__for the worst offenders tooMar 08 00:50
vmg3now they want to record ethnicity when you get a jabMar 08 00:50
schestowitz__so if you say I won't use $SPYINGFIRM because privacy they'll sing praises of how that company is "different"Mar 08 00:51
schestowitz__Snowden leaks are "old news"Mar 08 00:51
vmg3yeah Mar 08 00:51
schestowitz__which jab? :-)Mar 08 00:51
schestowitz__I got many jabsMar 08 00:51
vmg3covidMar 08 00:51
schestowitz__they register who gets jabs anywayMar 08 00:51
vmg3is the main one but i think it will carry overMar 08 00:51
schestowitz__so it is tied to one's identity regardlessMar 08 00:51
schestowitz__the NHS records "ethnicity" anywayMar 08 00:52
vmg3I'ts like mental health here too it all goes on your Health recordMar 08 00:52
vmg3then you get judged on that tooMar 08 00:52
schestowitz__they put this data on WindowsMar 08 00:52
schestowitz__and also the "clown"Mar 08 00:52
vmg3yesMar 08 00:52
schestowitz__so you probably don't want to tell them muchMar 08 00:52
vmg3already had leaks hereMar 08 00:53
vmg3tell a doctor you dont trust their system and the treatment changesMar 08 00:53
schestowitz__some stuff is almost benignMar 08 00:53
vmg3insurance companies are part of the systemMar 08 00:54
schestowitz__in the data senseMar 08 00:54
schestowitz__I've just sent an update to the NHS at workMar 08 00:54
*schestowitz__ on shiftMar 08 00:54
vmg3to make a claim they get full access Mar 08 00:54
schestowitz__insurance companies are often invertly connected to the goal of health benefitsMar 08 00:54
vmg3to get a script, you get piss tested, results recordedMar 08 00:55
schestowitz__if that's even a word...Mar 08 00:55
schestowitz__their goals are almost oppositeMar 08 00:55
schestowitz__and their business modelMar 08 00:55
schestowitz__their surplus is your problemsMar 08 00:55
vmg3they are in the $ buisness Mar 08 00:55
schestowitz__https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/11/goldman-asks-is-curing-patients-a-sustainable-business-model.htmlMar 08 00:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnbc.com | Goldman asks: 'Is curing patients a sustainable business model?'Mar 08 00:55
schestowitz__the piss test isn't the big issueMar 08 00:55
schestowitz__depending on what's found on itMar 08 00:56
schestowitz__in some context, that data can be used for assassinationsMar 08 00:56
vmg3it is if you smoke a bit of weedMar 08 00:56
schestowitz__e.g. allergiesMar 08 00:56
schestowitz__but that's stretching itMar 08 00:56
vmg34 weeks + in systemMar 08 00:56
schestowitz__as if someone wants to bring you down they don't really need your medical recordsMar 08 00:56
vmg3yeah words workMar 08 00:56
schestowitz__public shaming and blackmail are another issueMar 08 00:56
schestowitz__if you know underlying medical conditions of someone like Gates, would you publicly shame him with it?Mar 08 00:57
vmg3just a way to get more money, not sustainableMar 08 00:57
schestowitz__but you should worry more if they record callsMar 08 00:57
schestowitz__and if you tell them very personal thingsMar 08 00:57
schestowitz__(which you should not)Mar 08 00:57
vmg3yeah, everything is recorded hereMar 08 00:57
schestowitz__test results of things aren't particularly interestingMar 08 00:57
schestowitz__the gossip around it is "interesting"Mar 08 00:58
vmg3just driving the nail homeMar 08 00:58
vmg3sounds wicked when a QC spruiks it in a tribunalMar 08 00:58
schestowitz__when you have a public health service insurance companies are less of a problemMar 08 00:58
schestowitz__in the US, you definitely want to separate the systemsMar 08 00:59
schestowitz__otherwise they rip you offMar 08 00:59
vmg3I'd be dead Mar 08 00:59
schestowitz__so your loss or privacy hurts you financially, directlyMar 08 00:59
schestowitz__A lot of people still look up medical conditions on the WebMar 08 00:59
schestowitz__some people are really that gullible, thinking it's privateMar 08 01:00
vmg3we were told its going to be free for the vaccine, this morning they were telling us the costMar 08 01:00
schestowitz__and they literally type down what conditions they haveMar 08 01:00
schestowitz__Google records a 'shadow medical record'Mar 08 01:00
schestowitz__nothing is freeMar 08 01:00
vmg3yeah,  I think they profiled meMar 08 01:00
schestowitz__"Bill" is a big shareholderMar 08 01:00
vmg3it was convinent at the time to store med reports on gdriveMar 08 01:01
schestowitz__https://khn.org/news/rather-than-give-away-its-covid-vaccine-oxford-makes-a-deal-with-drugmaker/Mar 08 01:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-khn.org | They Pledged to Donate Rights to Their COVID Vaccine, Then Sold Them to Pharma | Kaiser Health NewsMar 08 01:01
schestowitz__https://www.thenation.com/article/economy/bill-gates-investments-covid/Mar 08 01:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenation.com | While the Poor Get Sick, Bill Gates Just Gets Richer | The NationMar 08 01:01
schestowitz_log"A few weeks later, Oxford—urged on by the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation—reversed course. It signed an exclusive vaccine deal with AstraZeneca that gave the pharmaceutical giant sole rights and no guarantee of low prices—with the less-publicized potential for Oxford to eventually make millions from the deal and win plenty of prestige."Mar 08 01:01
schestowitz__profiteersMar 08 01:02
schestowitz__disguised as "charity"Mar 08 01:02
vmg3we wont be safe until the poorest get it anywayMar 08 01:02
techrights-botFOSS Patents: #Apple may already have lost the strategic battle over #antitrust market definition in multiple European jurisdictions: App Store #monopoly ⇨ http://www.fosspatents.com/2021/03/apple-may-already-have-lost-strategic.html •●• #fosspatentsMar 08 01:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosspatents.com | FOSS Patents: Apple may already have lost the strategic battle over antitrust market definition in multiple European jurisdictions: App Store monopolyMar 08 01:03
techrights-botGOOGLE's new TRACKING method is even WORSE - What FloC is, and what it means https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GusN5EcrlCU #google #surveillanceMar 08 01:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GOOGLE's new TRACKING method is even WORSE - What FloC is, and what it means - YouTubeMar 08 01:03
vmg3everything mutates and we sufferMar 08 01:03
techrights-bot#Smenu : Script The Perfect Terminal Interface - YouTube ⇨ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EP-vKnhYyqQ •●• #Video #GNU #LinuxMar 08 01:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Smenu: Script The Perfect Terminal Interface - YouTubeMar 08 01:03
schestowitz__vmg3: the poor suffer moreMar 08 01:04
schestowitz__and it's how the rich get their "capital"Mar 08 01:04
schestowitz__more peopleMar 08 01:04
schestowitz__more growthMar 08 01:04
schestowitz__more desperate people to exploitMar 08 01:04
vmg3I'm more interested in why we allow itMar 08 01:04
schestowitz__sweatshops, farmers etc.Mar 08 01:05
vmg3it's so freaking obvious Mar 08 01:05
schestowitz__which the oligarchs' media then demonisesMar 08 01:05
schestowitz__with GMO they push monopolies on the crops, moreverMar 08 01:05
schestowitz__so it's an offense to grow your own foodMar 08 01:05
techrights-bot"Back when we shipped Unity desktop as the default desktop environment in #Ubuntu , there was a simple button to take a user to their previously uploaded crash reports." https://popey.com/blog/2021/03/finding-ubuntu-crash-reports/Mar 08 01:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-popey.com | Finding Ubuntu Crash Reports - Alan Pope's blogMar 08 01:05
vmg3easy to make mud of the tech detailsMar 08 01:06
techrights-bot#slashdot as megaphone of #microsoft propaganda. #linux is used more than #windows but they still go along with the lie that #windows is just "a much more attractive target" https://tech.slashdot.org/story/21/03/07/2030221/a-retired-microsoft-os-engineers-comparison-of-linux-with-windows http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/SlashdotMar 08 01:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tech.slashdot.org | A Retired Microsoft OS Engineer's Comparison of Linux with Windows - SlashdotMar 08 01:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Slashdot - TechrightsMar 08 01:06
techrights-botWhen I Discovered People Trafficking in Free/Open Source Software • 𝕿𝖊𝖈𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍𝖙𝖘 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/03/07/foss-people-trafficking/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/07/foss-people-trafficking/Mar 08 01:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | When I Discovered People Trafficking in Free/Open Source Software | TechrightsMar 08 01:07
schestowitz__vmg3: for gmo?Mar 08 01:08
schestowitz__either way, they control much of the mediaMar 08 01:08
schestowitz__for those they cannot, they try to undermine itMar 08 01:08
schestowitz__but the facts are on our sideMar 08 01:08
schestowitz__then they start censoringMar 08 01:08
schestowitz__and trollingMar 08 01:08
vmg3yeah most of our food is GMMar 08 01:08
schestowitz__for the patentsMar 08 01:08
vmg3even environment changes genesMar 08 01:08
schestowitz__genes change all the timeMar 08 01:09
schestowitz__for everythingMar 08 01:09
vmg3this made me smile https://digest.bps.org.uk/2021/03/05/it-turns-out-you-can-bullshit-a-bullshitter-after-all/Mar 08 01:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-digest.bps.org.uk | It Turns Out You Can Bullshit A Bullshitter After All – Research DigestMar 08 01:09
schestowitz__the question is, in which directionMar 08 01:09
schestowitz__evolution is like thatMar 08 01:09
vmg3yepMar 08 01:09
schestowitz__anyway, we need strength in numbersMar 08 01:09
schestowitz__like the capsule in aussie, which will helpMar 08 01:10
schestowitz__when we're done restoring it, I guessMar 08 01:10
schestowitz__I have limited capacity and we all work really hardMar 08 01:10
vmg3yep I just need more skillsMar 08 01:10
schestowitz__did lots of git/code work SundayMar 08 01:10
schestowitz__mostly Gemini and other tools we use and want to shareMar 08 01:10
vmg3you have me working hardMar 08 01:10
schestowitz__one skill is averting subversion attemptsMar 08 01:11
schestowitz__inc. corporate trollingMar 08 01:11
schestowitz__wikileaks was killed off by thatMar 08 01:11
techrights-bot#Google HR reportedly advised mental health leave in response to complaints of racist or sexist behavior https://www.theverge.com/2021/3/7/22318369/google-hr-advised-mental-health-leave-racist-sexist-behavior http://techrights.org/2021/03/06/astroturfing-vs-grassroots/Mar 08 01:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Google HR reportedly advised mental health leave in response to complaints of racist or sexist behavior - The VergeMar 08 01:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Corporations Do Not Represent Communities and Activists, They Just Exploit Them, Discredit Them, and Hijack Their Hard Work | TechrightsMar 08 01:11
vmg3still an ongoing thing for assangeMar 08 01:11
vmg3the murderers are walking amoung usMar 08 01:12
vmg3nobody cares, or wants to careMar 08 01:12
vmg3tipping point is still a bit offMar 08 01:13
schestowitz__because Assange is (they tell us) the real criminalsMar 08 01:14
vmg3pffftMar 08 01:14
schestowitz__while corporate trolls tell us so tooMar 08 01:14
schestowitz__while calling themselves "justice warriors"Mar 08 01:14
schestowitz__Not justice for their paymastersMar 08 01:14
schestowitz__who abuse whole nationsMar 08 01:14
schestowitz__it's an old trick thoughMar 08 01:14
vmg3I watched on twitter how easy people believe the mudMar 08 01:15
Ariadnei support pardoning assangeMar 08 01:15
schestowitz__social control media distracts many people nowMar 08 01:15
Ariadnebut i also think that he is a womanizerMar 08 01:15
schestowitz__they think they do activismMar 08 01:15
schestowitz__until FBMar 08 01:15
Ariadneit is possible to think both thingsMar 08 01:15
schestowitz__or TwitterMar 08 01:15
schestowitz__bans themMar 08 01:15
schestowitz__for the "wrong" activismMar 08 01:15
vmg3Ariadne: thats what they want us to believe,  IMHOMar 08 01:15
schestowitz__Ariadne: the priority is exposing war crimesMar 08 01:15
schestowitz__at the moment we have to prioritise issuesMar 08 01:16
schestowitz__corporate crimes alsoMar 08 01:16
Ariadnehas assange exposed any new war crimes?Mar 08 01:16
vmg3yeah its all part of the playbookMar 08 01:16
schestowitz__the whole "Sex" angle has long been used to discredit people or distract from their wordMar 08 01:16
schestowitz__*workMar 08 01:16
schestowitz__and wordsMar 08 01:16
Ariadnesince collateral murder, wikileaks has only done the cables thingMar 08 01:16
schestowitz__also MLKMar 08 01:16
schestowitz__the sex tapesMar 08 01:16
schestowitz__Ariadne: nopeMar 08 01:16
schestowitz__look at their siteMar 08 01:16
schestowitz__lots of crime exposedMar 08 01:17
vmg3throw enough mud sooner or later some of it sticksMar 08 01:17
schestowitz__even last yearMar 08 01:17
schestowitz__in Africa and ScandinaviaMar 08 01:17
schestowitz__https://wikileaks.org/-Leaks-.htmlMar 08 01:17
Ariadneon the front page of wikileaks the newest content i see is October 2019Mar 08 01:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wikileaks.org | WikiLeaks - LeaksMar 08 01:17
schestowitz__note datesMar 08 01:17
schestowitz__Vault7 is still very valuableMar 08 01:17
Ariadneon that page, December 2018Mar 08 01:17
schestowitz__it confirmed many thingsMar 08 01:17
vmg3yeah thats an indication that intimidation worksMar 08 01:17
schestowitz__Ariadne: yesMar 08 01:17
schestowitz__Ariadne: when you kidnap a founderMar 08 01:18
schestowitz__that kind of messes up with a site's operatio nMar 08 01:18
Ariadnesounds like poor management decisionsMar 08 01:18
schestowitz__don't fault them for crimes of the state against publishersMar 08 01:18
schestowitz__Ariadne: again, a distractionMar 08 01:18
Ariadneif i ran wikileaks i would have set it up so that it could continue operatingMar 08 01:18
schestowitz__blaming the exposerMar 08 01:18
schestowitz__Ariadne: in techrights we now have some redundancy built inMar 08 01:19
schestowitz__so it relies on no single individualMar 08 01:19
vmg3Its a complicated issue and hugeMar 08 01:19
schestowitz__Ariadne: you are among them :-)Mar 08 01:19
schestowitz__we live and learnMar 08 01:19
schestowitz__it's also deterring against particular actionsMar 08 01:19
schestowitz__anti-censorship done a priori means they don't bother slappingMar 08 01:19
vmg3the guys from piratebay warned us years ago what was coming Mar 08 01:20
schestowitz__because the SLAPP would have little practical impactMar 08 01:20
Ariadneanyway i do not see how accountability for bad actions done by a person is incompatible with propagating the spread of useful informationMar 08 01:20
schestowitz__vmg3: they dealt with even more aggressive forcesMar 08 01:20
schestowitz__Ariadne: we need truths, yesMar 08 01:20
Ariadnethe reality is assange is a womanizer and ioerror is a rapistMar 08 01:20
schestowitz__did you see the latest from pocock?Mar 08 01:21
Ariadnethat does not subtract from their workMar 08 01:21
schestowitz__he spills the beans on some big companies todayMar 08 01:21
vmg3but we talk about a slippery condom instead of murderMar 08 01:21
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schestowitz__it's what the media wantsMar 08 01:21
schestowitz__MLK 'cheated on his wife"Mar 08 01:21
schestowitz__let's ignore the oppression of black peopleMar 08 01:21
Ariadnei dont think the media cares either way about ioerror being a rapistMar 08 01:21
schestowitz__eventually he was just killedMar 08 01:21
schestowitz__Ariadne: you change the subjectMar 08 01:22
vmg3guilt by association Mar 08 01:22
schestowitz__we did not mention ioerrorMar 08 01:22
schestowitz__don't play into itMar 08 01:22
schestowitz__it's you who bring up smearsMar 08 01:22
schestowitz__and you brought up "Sex"Mar 08 01:22
schestowitz__as they wantMar 08 01:22
schestowitz__that's just what trolls like to doMar 08 01:22
schestowitz__we talked about exposing crimesMar 08 01:22
schestowitz__not sexMar 08 01:22
schestowitz__MLK Day isn't about sexMar 08 01:23
schestowitz__or FBU sex tapesMar 08 01:23
schestowitz__makes for blackmailMar 08 01:23
schestowitz__*madeMar 08 01:23
vmg3how would a intelligence re/gain trust?Mar 08 01:23
techrights-botA Look at the Newly-Released Pardus 19.5 • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148544 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #turkey #pardusMar 08 01:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | A Look at the Newly-Released Pardus 19.5 | Tux MachinesMar 08 01:23
AriadneanywayMar 08 01:23
techrights-botThe #Kubuntu Focus M2 Linux Notebook Gets Nvidia's GeForce RTX 30-Series GPUs http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148494#comment-28542Mar 08 01:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kubuntu Focus M2 Linux laptop now available with NVIDIA RTX 30x series graphics | Tux MachinesMar 08 01:23
mjg59schestowitz__: You've repeatedly brought up Jake as an exampleMar 08 01:23
techrights-bot#Android Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148542 •●• #Google #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 08 01:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesMar 08 01:23
schestowitz__lik CrystalMath said, this is not sexrightsMar 08 01:24
schestowitz__those who try to change the subject to sex are obviously doing this for a reasonMar 08 01:24
vmg3brbMar 08 01:24
Ariadneyes, accountabilityMar 08 01:24
schestowitz__bblMar 08 01:24
Ariadneas for pocock, that is a complicated issueMar 08 01:25
techrights-bot#9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: March 7th, 2021 • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148543 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 08 01:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: March 7th, 2021 | Tux MachinesMar 08 01:25
mjg59Pocock has engaged in a concerted campaign of harassment against various people in Debian, including impersonating other peopleMar 08 01:25
Ariadnehis work would be more convincing if he did not spend his time trying to ban evade debian blocks on his serverMar 08 01:25
techrights-botVideos: Smenu, Linux Experiment, and David Revoy With Krita • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148545 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 08 01:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Videos: Smenu, Linux Experiment, and David Revoy With Krita | Tux MachinesMar 08 01:25
Ariadnei only bring these things up because those people are manipulating *you* and looking to use techrights reputation to bolster their own campaignsMar 08 01:26
Ariadnewhen myself, ncopa, fabled and others were unhappy with debian, we went and started alpine -- we did not get banned from debian and then spend years evading moderation mechanisms designed to enforce that banMar 08 01:28
techrights-botTop 25 icon themes for #Ubuntu • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148546 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 08 01:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Top 25 icon themes for Ubuntu | Tux MachinesMar 08 01:29
techrights-botToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148547 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 08 01:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesMar 08 01:29
techrights-bot#Linux 5.11.4, 5.10.21, 5.4.103, 4.19.179, 4.14.224, 4.9.260, and 4.4.260 • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148548 •●• #KernelMar 08 01:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 5.11.4, 5.10.21, 5.4.103, 4.19.179, 4.14.224, 4.9.260, and 4.4.260 | Tux MachinesMar 08 01:29
Ariadnei will admit that the conditions under which he was banned from debian are not clear cut, but his behavior as a result of that ban has not been reconciliatoryMar 08 01:29
MinceRwhy worry about deadian? it's an ibm patsy nowMar 08 01:30
Ariadneinstead, he has impersonated members of the debian project, threatened and harassed other members, etcMar 08 01:30
Ariadnei don't care what debian doesMar 08 01:30
MinceRi don't care what happens to deadianMar 08 01:31
techrights-bot"At #FOSDEM 2017, Cat Allman from the #Google Open Source [sic] Programs Office (Stephanie Taylor’s team) had a discussion with one of the men from Albania. Google offered to be a silver sponsor for #OSCAL in May 2017." • 𝕿𝖊𝖈𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍𝖙𝖘 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/03/07/foss-people-trafficking/ gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/07/foss-people-trafficking/Mar 08 01:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | When I Discovered People Trafficking in Free/Open Source Software | TechrightsMar 08 01:31
vmg3I've been running it for years and it's served me well.Mar 08 01:31
vmg3the politics has little to playMar 08 01:32
MinceRit served me well too, until it suddenly turned into a delivery vector for systemdMar 08 01:32
vmg3yeah looking at that myself, but my understanding is not in the code just in memory usageMar 08 01:33
Ariadnei think the main reason why debian is low drama is because anybody with technical aspirations just goes and makes a new distroMar 08 01:33
CrystalMathAriadne: sometimes when you put a lot of work into something, you can be very upset to discover it was all for naught, or worseMar 08 01:33
schestowitz__"The Revolution  (OS) WILL be Decommoditised"Mar 08 01:34
AriadneCrystalMath: sure, i recommend therapy for mr. pocockMar 08 01:34
CrystalMathif i had put any work into debian i'd be upset tooMar 08 01:34
CrystalMathfortunately i didn'tMar 08 01:34
vmg3has anyone tried arozos?Mar 08 01:34
schestowitz__and GSoCMar 08 01:34
schestowitz__he mentored for an evil companyMar 08 01:34
Ariadnewell i put work into debian and then i went and started alpine insteadMar 08 01:34
Ariadnebig woopMar 08 01:34
schestowitz__that commits or helps commit crimes against humantyMar 08 01:34
schestowitz__many people still fall for itMar 08 01:34
CrystalMaththose bastards don't deserve even the slightest bit of helpMar 08 01:35
schestowitz__that's why we need whistleblowersMar 08 01:35
CrystalMathdebian only deserves deathMar 08 01:35
AriadnewhyMar 08 01:35
schestowitz__The pocock article is in Planet Fedora nowMar 08 01:35
schestowitz__i.e. IBMMar 08 01:35
CrystalMathbecause they're horribleMar 08 01:35
schestowitz__IBM is OK with itMar 08 01:35
Ariadnei have many friends involved in debian, to this dayMar 08 01:35
superkuhMy apt has super cow powers.Mar 08 01:35
schestowitz__btw, exposing abuse is not "harassment"Mar 08 01:36
schestowitz__don't give woes to REAL victims of real harassmentMar 08 01:36
schestowitz__bblMar 08 01:36
CrystalMathi will celebrate on the day when debian disappearsMar 08 01:36
CrystalMathonce all its releases go EOL and it never does a single thing againMar 08 01:36
vmg3investigative work/reporting has many methodsMar 08 01:36
MinceRsameMar 08 01:36
techrights-bot"Canonical reveals long-term Ubuntu plans that you might have missed, and the "double ungood" warning from Linus this week." https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/144417/linux-action-news-179/Mar 08 01:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jupiterbroadcasting.com | Linux Action News 179 | Jupiter BroadcastingMar 08 01:37
techrights-botOpen Source #Security Podcast: "Josh and Kurt talk about DWF. It’s back and the intention is to have real community driven security identifiers!" https://opensourcesecurity.io/2021/03/07/episode-261-dwf-is-back-welcome-to-community-powered-cve/Mar 08 01:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensourcesecurity.io | Episode 261 – DWF is back! Welcome to community powered CVE – Open Source SecurityMar 08 01:38
Ariadneschestowitz__: exposing abuse on your own website is not harassment.  evading IP bans and impersonating debian personnel to drive traffic to your website definitely is.Mar 08 01:38
techrights-ipfs ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▁▆▄▄▅▃▄▃▄▃▄▆▇▄▄▅▃▃▅▃▅▆▄▅▂▂▅▄▅▆▄▅▂▄▁ avg(k/sec) 18.40 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▃█▂▂▁▂▁▂▂▂▂▂▂▁▃▁▁▂▂█▁██▂█▂▂█▂█▁▂▁ avg(k/sec) 87.45▕ swarm size (avg): 129.49  ⟲Mar 08 01:38
techrights-bot" #Python generators are very powerful for handling operations which require large amount of memory." https://www.nbshare.io/notebook/286849692/Python-Generators/Mar 08 01:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nbshare.io | Python GeneratorsMar 08 01:39
techrights-botFrom buzzword to another buzzword https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQgHbHJlAjoMar 08 01:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why I Moved From Ops to DevOps (and why you might want to) - YouTubeMar 08 01:40
techrights-botInternational Women’s Day – March 8, 2021 https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2021/03/08/iwd-2021/ when will #freesw blogs also converge with veganism?Mar 08 01:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.documentfoundation.org | International Women's Day - March 8, 2021 - The Document Foundation BlogMar 08 01:41
techrights-bot#freesw is about justice and freedom, not #monopolies (which it inherently attempts to tackle). Start rejecting ALL money from ALL monopolies if you run a Free software org. That money comes with strings attached, whether visible or not (at first).Mar 08 01:42
techrights-bot"The “nohz_full=” kernel boot parameter is the current main interface to configure full dynticks along with CPU Isolation." https://www.suse.com/c/cpu-isolation-nohz_full-part-3/Mar 08 01:43
mjg59Oh, so free software *is* about justice and freedom?Mar 08 01:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-CPU Isolation – Nohz_full – by SUSE Labs (part 3) | SUSE CommunitiesMar 08 01:43
mjg59schestowitz__: But not about justice for Jake's victims?Mar 08 01:45
techrights-bot"At the last minute, when it was too late to change the materials and the budget, #Google decided to remove funding from this free software event" http://techrights.org/2021/03/07/foss-people-trafficking/Mar 08 01:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | When I Discovered People Trafficking in Free/Open Source Software | TechrightsMar 08 01:45
techrights-bot"In other words, the 70-80% female:male in Chris Lamb’s comments didn’t represent empowerment, it represented deceptive practices to make women work at #OSCAL and coercive practices to prevent them sending funding requests for other events." http://techrights.org/2021/03/07/foss-people-trafficking/Mar 08 01:45
techrights-bot"qute-gemini is a qutebrowser userscript that allows browsing Geminispace from within qutebrowser." https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/005990.html awesome stuff! That also means #gemini protocol support is now in #gnu #linux repos!Mar 08 01:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | [ANN] qute-gemini 1.0.0, now sucks lessMar 08 01:50
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vmg3oh I like quteMar 08 01:53
techrights-botWhat really sucks about #qutebrowser (in most settings) is that it's tied to a massive #scam called #duckDuckGo ... massive scam. http://techrights.org/2020/07/02/ddg-privacy-abuser-in-disguise/Mar 08 01:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Why People Should Never Ever Use DuckDuckGo | TechrightsMar 08 01:58
techrights-bot#duckDuckGo uses its #surveillanceCapitalism revenue to lie to you about #privacy ... same thing #mozilla does. #googleMar 08 02:01
MinceRtoo bad it depends on qt :>Mar 08 02:01
vmg3but it is leaner than many of the altsMar 08 02:03
schestowitz__MinceR: yupMar 08 02:04
schestowitz__falkon alsoMar 08 02:04
schestowitz__we really need qt forkedMar 08 02:05
schestowitz__and the forked adopted, maintainedMar 08 02:05
cybrNautDDG has gotten worse than what that article exposes.  DDG used to be hosted on Amazon, and it switched to MS Azure, which means MS can now see both the IP and the query text coming to bing, and link identity to search phraseMar 08 02:05
schestowitz__like libreoffice did openfofficeMar 08 02:05
MinceRit would be easier to maintain something less bloatedMar 08 02:05
craigevilfalkon, midori, eolie, netsurfMar 08 02:05
MinceRand we practically need to fork of all of the IT industry by nowMar 08 02:05
schestowitz__cybrNaut: oh, wowMar 08 02:05
schestowitz__any links about that?Mar 08 02:05
cybrNautschestowitz__: no, i just worked it out the other day.. haven't written any articlesMar 08 02:06
schestowitz__cybrNaut: for almost a decade DDG has felt like a Microsoft proxyMar 08 02:06
schestowitz__for several reasonsMar 08 02:06
schestowitz__cybrNaut: they did use some Microsoft stuff beforeMar 08 02:06
schestowitz__didn't know if/when AWS was leftMar 08 02:07
MinceRlike bìng :>Mar 08 02:07
cybrNautnote that it's speculative.. we don't know MS does that, but it seems quite possibleMar 08 02:07
schestowitz__DDG makes me angry when I see thisMar 08 02:07
schestowitz__liars, liars, liarsMar 08 02:07
schestowitz__at least stop lyingMar 08 02:07
schestowitz__mozilla annoys me less with its privacy posingMar 08 02:07
MinceRif microshit can do something that lessens our privacy, we can be pretty sure they're doing itMar 08 02:07
schestowitz__while living off Google s$Mar 08 02:07
cybrNautand we should assume MS would not give up the chance to exploit that.  It's all hinged on trustMar 08 02:07
MinceRremember monkey boy raging about google gathering more data on people than microshit didMar 08 02:08
schestowitz__"google reads your mail"Mar 08 02:08
schestowitz__Microsoft does not?Mar 08 02:08
schestowitz__Microsoft drinks your mail -)Mar 08 02:08
schestowitz__and sells your mail to everybodyMar 08 02:08
schestowitz__anywayMar 08 02:08
schestowitz__we need to reject all those 'free' email disservicesMar 08 02:09
schestowitz__there's no free emailMar 08 02:09
schestowitz__nobody set up a Free Email FoundationMar 08 02:09
MinceRmaybe stop relying on email for privacy and securityMar 08 02:09
schestowitz__a charity backed by benevolent billionaire'sMar 08 02:09
schestowitz__MinceR: or encryptMar 08 02:09
schestowitz__but then they push you outMar 08 02:09
schestowitz__for not being easy to monetiseMar 08 02:09
schestowitz__"just taking up traffic!"Mar 08 02:10
MinceRsure, as long as you can be sure all correspondents will refuse to stop encrypting if messages get corrupted or stop getting throughMar 08 02:10
schestowitz__I barely send any mail without encryptingMar 08 02:10
schestowitz__I use other comms methodsMar 08 02:10
cybrNautemail is just getting more and more broken.  gnu.org started rejecting msgs where the FROM domain differs from the IP reverse lookup, so I can no longer email RMS using a forwarding accountMar 08 02:10
schestowitz__the monopolies get their wayMar 08 02:11
schestowitz__mostly microsoft, google, maybe gmxMar 08 02:11
schestowitz__they lock everybody else outMar 08 02:11
schestowitz__using "Spam" as excuse for monopolyMar 08 02:11
schestowitz__and then "Extending" (breaking, deviating from) protocolsMar 08 02:11
schestowitz__surveillance sievesMar 08 02:12
schestowitz__they impose those on schools and colleges tooMar 08 02:12
schestowitz__http://techrights.org/wiki/Microsoft_ELMSMar 08 02:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft ELMS - TechrightsMar 08 02:12
schestowitz__http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/EDGIMar 08 02:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EDGI - TechrightsMar 08 02:12
schestowitz__agents of imperialismMar 08 02:12
schestowitz__by espionageMar 08 02:12
schestowitz__with back doors and direct accessMar 08 02:12
schestowitz__then zemlin and other frauds shower us with labels like "confidential computing"Mar 08 02:12
schestowitz__Surveillance is now "confidential computing"Mar 08 02:13
techrights-botRacist #IBM goes out of its way to break #GNU #Linux for community-led projects.Mar 08 02:13
MinceRlolMar 08 02:14
MinceRi guess zemlin believes his dick pics on his hypeCloud account are "confidential" tooMar 08 02:14
schestowitz__they areMar 08 02:15
schestowitz__as long as he plays alongMar 08 02:15
schestowitz__"it would be a shame if you criticised sponsor X and Y"Mar 08 02:15
MinceRuntil someone breaks into the server yet againMar 08 02:15
schestowitz__LF had security breachesMar 08 02:16
schestowitz__then again, they use WindowsMar 08 02:16
schestowitz__on desktopsMar 08 02:16
schestowitz__sometimes servers alsoMar 08 02:16
schestowitz__http://techrights.org/2019/07/17/we-are-the-windows-powered-linux-foundation/Mar 08 02:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation Apparently Celebrates Sysadmin Day With a Microsoft Windows Site! | TechrightsMar 08 02:16
vmg3DDG story even lite has js in results, sneaky bastardsMar 08 02:16
schestowitz__http://techrights.org/2020/06/22/proprietary-iis-and-windows-foundation/Mar 08 02:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation Newsletter is Microsoft Windows and Proprietary IIS | TechrightsMar 08 02:16
schestowitz__LF is corporate corruption exemplifiedMar 08 02:16
vmg3all the wells are poisoned Mar 08 02:21
schestowitz__whatever remains... is in the TODO listMar 08 02:22
schestowitz__I hear from people who are being targetedMar 08 02:22
schestowitz__intimidated and smearedMar 08 02:23
schestowitz__for speaking outMar 08 02:23
schestowitz__about what's going onMar 08 02:23
schestowitz__it's an anti-community purgeMar 08 02:23
schestowitz__and they have the money on their side, not the factsMar 08 02:23
schestowitz__the modus operandi is more or less known by nowMar 08 02:23
vmg3:<Mar 08 02:23
schestowitz__anyway, we need more people involvedMar 08 02:23
schestowitz__and contributing at feasible levelsMar 08 02:24
schestowitz__coding, hosting, artMar 08 02:24
schestowitz__we have a skilled volunteer who is an artist and she does great stuff for usMar 08 02:24
vmg3I saw a ransomware attack that got people to join a chat Mar 08 02:24
schestowitz__ransomware is often a Windows problemMar 08 02:24
schestowitz__and it killed many peopleMar 08 02:24
schestowitz__http://techrights.org/2020/06/09/windows-disaster-zones/Mar 08 02:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Index of the Series About Windows Inside Hospitals (Causing Hospitals to Become Disaster Zones) | TechrightsMar 08 02:25
vmg3https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/new-ransomware-only-decrypts-victims-who-join-their-discord-server/Mar 08 02:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bleepingcomputer.com | New ransomware only decrypts victims who join their Discord serverMar 08 02:25
schestowitz__this is a Microsoft propaganda siteMar 08 02:26
schestowitz__so be waryMar 08 02:26
schestowitz__they never mention the Microsoft culpabilityMar 08 02:26
vmg3it has the ad's for sureMar 08 02:26
schestowitz__I'd avoid linking to that if possibleMar 08 02:26
schestowitz__they also deflected the other day, as noted in our video, from MicrosoftMar 08 02:26
schestowitz__you mentioned it earlierMar 08 02:26
schestowitz__Blaming on "Amazon" or "Lyft"Mar 08 02:27
schestowitz__Microsoft serving malwareMar 08 02:27
schestowitz__and sometimes even putting "Linux" in the headlineMar 08 02:27
schestowitz__when in fact that's just Microsoft pushing malware to Linux machinesMar 08 02:27
schestowitz__pure propagandaMar 08 02:27
schestowitz__and now they also blame "China"Mar 08 02:27
vmg3yeah its hard to escapeMar 08 02:27
schestowitz__truly nasty companyMar 08 02:27
schestowitz__and many people fall for the spinMar 08 02:27
schestowitz__because the corrupt (bribed) media plays along with the false narrativesMar 08 02:28
schestowitz__http://techrights.org/2021/03/03/microsoft-blame-shifting-tactics/Mar 08 02:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Weaponises (and Further Spreads) Racism to Distract From Its Own Incompetence (and ‘Five Eyes’ Collusion for Back Door Access) | TechrightsMar 08 02:28
schestowitz__https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/malicious-npm-packages-target-amazon-slack-with-new-dependency-attacks/Mar 08 02:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bleepingcomputer.com | Malicious NPM packages target Amazon, Slack with new dependency attacksMar 08 02:28
schestowitz__same propahanda siteMar 08 02:28
schestowitz__let's blame Microsoft rivalsMar 08 02:28
schestowitz__for Microsoft pushing malware to their serversMar 08 02:28
vmg3they like to drop names to deflect Mar 08 02:29
schestowitz__yupMar 08 02:29
schestowitz__wow, the qutebrowser experience is awfulMar 08 02:29
schestowitz__not just the uiMar 08 02:30
vmg3"Discord commonly used by threat actors"Mar 08 02:30
schestowitz__but also DDG by defaultMar 08 02:30
schestowitz__on debian buster at leastMar 08 02:30
schestowitz__and it's almost impossible to change unless you know what you're doingMar 08 02:30
schestowitz__so, to me at least, it feels like malwareMar 08 02:30
schestowitz__launch softwareMar 08 02:30
schestowitz__enter something into the boxMar 08 02:30
schestowitz__and you have been keylogged by spying firmMar 08 02:30
MinceRafaict qutebrowser is designed for people who know what they're doingMar 08 02:30
vmg3yeah now I'm parinoid about everythingMar 08 02:30
schestowitz__startpage alsoMar 08 02:31
schestowitz__http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/StartpageMar 08 02:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Startpage - TechrightsMar 08 02:31
schestowitz__some people STILL recommend this crapMar 08 02:31
schestowitz__in SPITE of what is known for a factMar 08 02:31
schestowitz__money talksMar 08 02:31
schestowitz__surveillance has moneyMar 08 02:31
schestowitz__manipulating people... that's where the money isMar 08 02:31
schestowitz__people have moneyMar 08 02:31
schestowitz__by manipulating them you control where their money goesMar 08 02:31
schestowitz__manipulation includes blackmailMar 08 02:32
schestowitz__hush moneyMar 08 02:32
schestowitz__like Google paying people to hide the sex scandalsMar 08 02:32
schestowitz__or paying trollsMar 08 02:32
schestowitz__to bring up "sex" each time people talk about back doors, privacy etc.Mar 08 02:32
schestowitz__anyway, Startpage is liarsMar 08 02:32
schestowitz__like DDGMar 08 02:32
schestowitz__there's "no money" in private searchMar 08 02:33
schestowitz__same for emailMar 08 02:33
schestowitz__people may one day accept there's no "free stuff"Mar 08 02:33
schestowitz__twitter and FB are not free eitherMar 08 02:33
schestowitz__they can tolerate the "users" as long as the customers (advertisers) doMar 08 02:33
schestowitz__OK, IRC logs timeMar 08 02:34
vmg3free like prisonMar 08 02:34
schestowitz__free food :)Mar 08 02:34
schestowitz__free bedMar 08 02:34
schestowitz__sometimes even free healthcareMar 08 02:34
schestowitz__YOU. Are. FREE!Mar 08 02:34
schestowitz__"Everything is free here!"Mar 08 02:34
vmg3free thoughtMar 08 02:34
schestowitz__"work liberates"Mar 08 02:34
schestowitz__slavery is freeMar 08 02:35
schestowitz__I'm free in exchange for my labourMar 08 02:35
schestowitz__I get free timeMar 08 02:35
schestowitz__when I sleep...Mar 08 02:35
vmg3here's your tokenMar 08 02:35
schestowitz__[02:34] <vmg3> free thoughtMar 08 02:35
schestowitz__as long as not aloudMar 08 02:35
schestowitz__then they say "free speech" is violenceMar 08 02:36
vmg3yeah, even that gets manipulatedMar 08 02:36
schestowitz__"too much speech"Mar 08 02:36
schestowitz__mixing it with threats and plotting to harm,Mar 08 02:36
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schestowitz__which aren;t speechMar 08 02:36
schestowitz__they can be expressed in wordsMar 08 02:36
schestowitz__but aren't a speechMar 08 02:36
schestowitz__like saying "war is speech"Mar 08 02:36
schestowitz__"we express our freedom of expression with artillery"Mar 08 02:37
vmg3expressing a desire for change can be dangerousMar 08 02:37
schestowitz__in chinaMar 08 02:37
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schestowitz__but even here, now...Mar 08 02:37
schestowitz__real changeMar 08 02:38
schestowitz__not BS changeMar 08 02:38
schestowitz__not "limousine 'activists'"Mar 08 02:38
vmg3the left wing and right wing are part of the same bird they sayMar 08 02:38
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schestowitz__no, there's the Aussie leftMar 08 02:38
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schestowitz__they call themselves Green LeftMar 08 02:38
vmg3left right outMar 08 02:38
schestowitz__they're the leftMar 08 02:38
schestowitz__not labourMar 08 02:38
vmg3no they vote with the rightMar 08 02:39
schestowitz__hmm...Mar 08 02:39
schestowitz__maybe derailed, tooMar 08 02:39
schestowitz__or maybe you mean labourMar 08 02:39
vmg3can you be an environmentalis and live in the big city?Mar 08 02:39
schestowitz__[13:04] <techrights-bot> ● NEWS ● #CommonDreams #Politics ☞ 119 Democrats Join With #GOP to Block Restoration of #VotingRights for Incarcerated People https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/03/02/119-democrats-join-gop-block-restoration-voting-rights-incarcerated-peopleMar 08 02:39
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vmg3thats where all the greens reside Mar 08 02:39
schestowitz__[08:43] <techrights-bot> ● NEWS ● #TruthOut ☞ Eight Democrats Joined #GOP to Vote Down Sanders's $15 #MinimumWage Amendment https://truthout.org/articles/eight-democrats-joined-gop-to-vote-down-sanderss-15-minimum-wage-amendment/Mar 08 02:39
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schestowitz__fake leftMar 08 02:39
schestowitz__"Fake" for Wall Street... 'left' [08:43] <techrights-bot> ● NEWS ● #TruthOut ☞ Eight Democrats Joined #GOP to Vote Down Sanders's $15 #MinimumWage Amendment https://truthout.org/articles/eight-democrats-joined-gop-to-vote-down-sanderss-15-minimum-wage-amendment/Mar 08 02:40
vmg3our political system is pretty shitMar 08 02:40
MinceRindeedMar 08 02:40
schestowitz__vmg3: big cities can limit the harm tgo natureMar 08 02:40
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schestowitz__if you scatter millions around the woods, the nature is harmed even moreMar 08 02:40
vmg3yeah but balance has never been part of human natureMar 08 02:41
MinceRhumans shouldn't reproduce so muchMar 08 02:41
vmg3we're extremeMar 08 02:41
vmg3even the so called center lurchesMar 08 02:42
schestowitz__MinceR: say people who make lots of kidsMar 08 02:42
MinceRi say so and i don't make any kodsMar 08 02:42
MinceRs/od/id/Mar 08 02:42
schestowitz__techrights.org/2020/01/26/advocates-of-population-control/Mar 08 02:43
schestowitz__http:/techrights.org/2020/01/26/advocates-of-population-control/Mar 08 02:43
schestowitz__http://techrights.org/2020/01/26/advocates-of-population-control/Mar 08 02:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Opinion: If You Advocate Population Control and You Are Yourself Doubling in One Single Generation, Then You Might be Hypocritical | TechrightsMar 08 02:43
schestowitz__stupid firefoxMar 08 02:43
schestowitz__stripping off the protocolsMar 08 02:43
schestowitz__funded by Google, acting like GoogleMar 08 02:43
schestowitz__repossessing protocolsMar 08 02:43
vmg3turn js off in DDG and it wants you to go to surveymonkeydotcomMar 08 02:44
*jpli (~quassel@2806:106e:24:19b4::1) has joined #techrightsMar 08 02:45
vmg3no searchMar 08 02:45
schestowitz__lolMar 08 02:45
schestowitz__DDG is a scamMar 08 02:45
schestowitz__has been since the very startMar 08 02:45
schestowitz__but they spent their earnings lying about itMar 08 02:46
gryvmg3: what URL did you visit?Mar 08 02:46
schestowitz__lots of people, even in the gnu linux, not only fell for but also perpetuated this scamMar 08 02:46
vmg3but they have a browser plug to tell you what's safe  OMGMar 08 02:46
schestowitz__we have fake privacyMar 08 02:46
schestowitz__fake securityMar 08 02:46
schestowitz__http://techrights.org/2021/01/30/fake-security/Mar 08 02:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Fake Security is Still a Real Problem, Even in the GNU/Linux (and BSD) Spheres | TechrightsMar 08 02:47
schestowitz__even fake freeMar 08 02:47
schestowitz__like 'free' RHEL*Mar 08 02:47
schestowitz______Mar 08 02:47
schestowitz__until you hit the freemium limitsMar 08 02:47
vmg3gry just went to ddg and it shows in my address barMar 08 02:47
schestowitz__then IBM charges a huge amount per processor, like Microsoft doesMar 08 02:47
gryvmg3: what url?Mar 08 02:47
schestowitz__we also have fake activismMar 08 02:48
schestowitz__and fake charitiesMar 08 02:48
vmg3just went to ddg and turned off js with no scriptMar 08 02:48
schestowitz__controlled by those who fight both activism and altruismMar 08 02:48
vmg3so i gather i already took the surveyMar 08 02:48
vmg3hmm now it's not doing itMar 08 02:49
vmg3it was the main siteMar 08 02:50
vmg3i removed the privacy pluginMar 08 02:50
vmg3maybe that did itMar 08 02:50
vmg3from firefoxMar 08 02:50
schestowitz__"privacy plugin"Mar 08 02:51
schestowitz__Sounds like design issueMar 08 02:51
schestowitz__software that respects your privacy does not need pluginsMar 08 02:51
schestowitz__just as OS without back doors may not need AV softwareMar 08 02:51
vmg3yeah I never really paid much attention to itMar 08 02:51
vmg3books are looking goodMar 08 02:52
schestowitz__the latter often introduces yet more back doors or security issues (like the firm itself getting crazy access levels)Mar 08 02:52
schestowitz__people become accustomed to buying thingsMar 08 02:52
schestowitz__like "Security"Mar 08 02:52
schestowitz__or "privacy"Mar 08 02:52
schestowitz__you don't need to BUY those thingsMar 08 02:52
schestowitz__but rely on conditions that ensure themMar 08 02:52
vmg3wish i got screenshotMar 08 02:52
schestowitz__like face-to-face chatMar 08 02:53
techrights-bot#Programming Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148549Mar 08 02:53
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vmg3schestowitz__: like zoomMar 08 02:54
schestowitz__haMar 08 02:55
schestowitz__zoom on what?Mar 08 02:55
schestowitz__zoom(r)Mar 08 02:56
vmg3face to faceMar 08 02:56
vmg3bad jokeMar 08 02:56
schestowitz__with FBI back doorsMar 08 02:56
vmg3i've got heaps of emMar 08 02:56
schestowitz__they change for "privacy"Mar 08 02:56
schestowitz__and even then it is fake privacyMar 08 02:56
vmg3yeah i reinstalled it and it did it againMar 08 02:56
vmg3same resultMar 08 02:57
techrights-bot#AlpineLinux Review: Ultimate Distro for Power Users • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148550Mar 08 02:57
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schestowitz__Ariadne: ^Mar 08 02:57
schestowitz__just inMar 08 02:57
schestowitz__mins agoMar 08 02:57
schestowitz__vmg3: maybe wrong choicesMar 08 02:57
schestowitz__brb coffeeMar 08 02:58
schestowitz__I want to code some things tonightMar 08 02:58
vmg3yeah I'm heading out to get some fresh airMar 08 02:58
vmg3o/Mar 08 02:58
MinceR\oMar 08 02:59
vmg3this is the plugin for ffox https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/duckduckgo-for-firefox/ it's when you remove it without jsMar 08 03:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-addons.mozilla.org | DuckDuckGo Privacy Essentials – Get this Extension for 🦊 Firefox (en-US)Mar 08 03:01
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schestowitz__does anyone here know firefox very well?Mar 08 03:03
schestowitz__I can't figure out how to force it to log in when there's a new sessionMar 08 03:03
schestowitz__to log into something that requires logging inMar 08 03:03
schestowitz__without user interventionMar 08 03:03
vmg3ugh you need a ff accountMar 08 03:03
schestowitz__:-oMar 08 03:04
schestowitz__account?Mar 08 03:04
schestowitz__browsers that need accountMar 08 03:04
vmg3sync passwords etc, I don't advise it like chromeMar 08 03:04
schestowitz__'sync'Mar 08 03:05
schestowitz__means GIVEMar 08 03:05
cybrNautI have a script that supplies my creds and gets a cookie, but I've not taken the time to work out how to format the cookie and hand it off to FirefoxMar 08 03:05
schestowitz__I don't give my passwords to Google-funded MozillaMar 08 03:05
vmg3it's freeMar 08 03:05
MinceRloose lyps sync shypsMar 08 03:05
vmg3i gotta goMar 08 03:05
schestowitz__kkMar 08 03:05
schestowitz__I also use netsurf on that pc but not for muchMar 08 03:06
schestowitz__it's very limited in today's fake 'web'Mar 08 03:06
schestowitz__with 'webappsMar 08 03:06
schestowitz__techrights works okMar 08 03:06
schestowitz__anyway, some sites leave you logged inMar 08 03:06
schestowitz__some do notMar 08 03:07
schestowitz__https://support.mozilla.org/bm/questions/1269788Mar 08 03:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-support.mozilla.org | Firefox won't stay signed in (I have to login every time I open the browser, and my previous session is lost) - how can I fix this? | Firefox Support Forum | Mozilla SupportMar 08 03:07
schestowitz__"Firefox uses the Password Manager to store the credentials of the Firefox Sync account (chrome://FirefoxAccounts) to make it possible to connect to Sync each time you start Firefox without the need to enter email and password. If you use the master password then you need to enter the MP every time you start Firefox. If you are asked to login again to Sync then this means that the Sync credential data isn't stored properly in the Mar 08 03:08
schestowitz__Password Manager."Mar 08 03:08
schestowitz__Password Manager.Mar 08 03:08
schestowitz__who's the manager?Mar 08 03:08
schestowitz__who's my master?Mar 08 03:08
schestowitz__Mozilla/Google?Mar 08 03:08
techrights-bot#mozilla #firefox is increasingly becoming worse than a #surveillance tool disguised as "browser". It's also an #espionage tool looking to harvest passwords etc. Avoid.Mar 08 03:10
schestowitz__"Attempted each of the remedies above, and Firefox still will not stay signed in. Even if I just close the window, opening it up will demand another sign in, suggesting I sync and install firefox on my phone, though I have done all of these moments ago. What is wrong with Firefox?"Mar 08 03:11
schestowitz__"What is wrong with Firefox?"Mar 08 03:11
schestowitz__oh, where to start...Mar 08 03:11
cybrNauti stopped using browser's built-in password managers a long time ago.. hard to beleive what i'm hearing (that they now put the credentials in the cloud).  It used to be that only plugins would do that, and built-in pw stores used local storageMar 08 03:11
cybrNautso local storage is no longer an option for FF?Mar 08 03:11
cybrNauti'm looking at it now... seems syncing to the cloud is optionalMar 08 03:14
cybrNaut"about:logins"Mar 08 03:14
cybrNautmy version is old thoughMar 08 03:15
techrights-botSince Firefox version 76, #mozilla has had #firefox phone home, by default, with information about what login details you enter. And if you aren't worried about Mozilla #privacy violations, remember they're funded by #google (NSA).Mar 08 03:18
schestowitz__cybrNaut: sort ofMar 08 03:18
schestowitz__see aboveMar 08 03:18
schestowitz__Firefox has 'telemetry'Mar 08 03:18
schestowitz__this one they call "Lockwise"Mar 08 03:18
schestowitz__and "Monitor"Mar 08 03:19
schestowitz__they monitor youMar 08 03:19
schestowitz__for your own protection, of course!Mar 08 03:19
DaemonFC[m]NormandyMar 08 03:19
schestowitz__NetSurf lacks the JS I needMar 08 03:19
DaemonFC[m]They can install things into your browser behind the scenes and change settings.Mar 08 03:19
schestowitz__So it would not work with what I needMar 08 03:19
schestowitz__DaemonFC[m]: wordpress became similar to that with autoupdatesMar 08 03:19
schestowitz__just waiting for the 'gaffe' to happenMar 08 03:19
schestowitz__when some "rogue player" will be "done" by thatMar 08 03:20
schestowitz__like police using robotic explosive on wheelMar 08 03:20
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz__: Browsers need to go back to a major version every several years.Mar 08 03:20
schestowitz__to 'drone-strike' a suspectMar 08 03:20
schestowitz__DaemonFC[m]: they go the opposite wayMar 08 03:20
DaemonFC[m]You don't need new features all the time. This is nuts.Mar 08 03:20
schestowitz__days ago Google said chrom* would be released every 4 weeksMar 08 03:20
schestowitz__instead of 6Mar 08 03:21
schestowitz__to keep forkers and branchers on their heelsMar 08 03:21
schestowitz__systemd does the sameMar 08 03:21
DaemonFC[m]Go fast and break stuff.Mar 08 03:21
schestowitz__bloated piece of crap vomited out on github every few weeksMar 08 03:21
schestowitz__only ibm can keep upMar 08 03:21
DaemonFC[m]Yes, Google is clearly not happy with Brave.Mar 08 03:21
DaemonFC[m]Maybe mjg59 can confirm.Mar 08 03:22
DaemonFC[m]He was cashing Google paychecks up until a couple of weeks ago.Mar 08 03:22
schestowitz__now he feels like he can trollMar 08 03:22
schestowitz__without liabilityMar 08 03:22
schestowitz__like he never got paid by themMar 08 03:22
schestowitz__but anyway, pure trollMar 08 03:22
schestowitz__people wrote to me yesterdayMar 08 03:22
schestowitz__to alert me he was 100% trollingMar 08 03:23
schestowitz__and has no purpose here in IRC other than trollingMar 08 03:23
schestowitz__THIS CHANNEL IS THE ONLY IRC/FREENODE channel he is inMar 08 03:23
schestowitz__just revealing of his agendaMar 08 03:23
schestowitz__pure scum of a 'person'Mar 08 03:23
schestowitz__disposable corporate shill for NSA and PartnersMar 08 03:23
schestowitz__posers and charlatans posing as 'security' and 'activists'Mar 08 03:24
schestowitz__while attacking BOTGHMar 08 03:24
schestowitz__anyway, back on topic...Mar 08 03:24
mjg5903:23 < schestowitz__> THIS CHANNEL IS THE ONLY IRC/FREENODE channel he is inMar 08 03:24
schestowitz__DaemonFC[m]: any way to make Firefox remember session?Mar 08 03:24
mjg59Literally untrueMar 08 03:24
schestowitz__It's hard to use Firefox like thisMar 08 03:24
schestowitz__I mean, it would never want to keep a session live after closing a sessionMar 08 03:25
schestowitz__or firefox sessionMar 08 03:25
schestowitz__not session per seMar 08 03:25
schestowitz__this was not always like thatMar 08 03:25
mjg59schestowitz__: Why do you keep making demonstrably factually inaccurate claims about me?Mar 08 03:25
schestowitz__[03:25] [Whois] mjg59 is a user on channels: #techrightsMar 08 03:25
schestowitz__unless you hideMar 08 03:25
schestowitz__anyway, back on topicMar 08 03:25
schestowitz__until the troll brings up "FART" or "SEX"Mar 08 03:26
schestowitz__firefox is really awfulMar 08 03:26
schestowitz__it got a lot worseMar 08 03:26
mjg59schestowitz__: /whois schestowitz__ tells me that you're only on #techrightsMar 08 03:26
schestowitz__it was even better in version 2.0Mar 08 03:26
schestowitz__lots of plugins and stuffMar 08 03:26
schestowitz__maybe I can find a workaround without closing firefoxMar 08 03:26
schestowitz__but they castrated their CLI optionsMar 08 03:27
schestowitz__they literally removed optionsMar 08 03:27
schestowitz__must be some "UX" 'guru'Mar 08 03:27
schestowitz__https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1097453Mar 08 03:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-support.mozilla.org | won't keep me logged in | Firefox Support Forum | Mozilla SupportMar 08 03:27
schestowitz__maybe other people report the same issueMar 08 03:27
schestowitz__https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1227940Mar 08 03:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-support.mozilla.org | browser won't keep me signed in | Firefox Support Forum | Mozilla SupportMar 08 03:28
schestowitz__all from recent yearsMar 08 03:28
schestowitz__what has mozilla done to firefox?Mar 08 03:28
mjg59schestowitz__: Freenode's behaviour for user mode +i is to only show you the channels you share with someone elseMar 08 03:28
mjg59schestowitz__: I'm on other channels on Freenode, but because this is the only one we're both in it's the only one you can see me in from whoisMar 08 03:28
DaemonFC[m]<schestowitz__ "what has mozilla done to firefox"> Patch it up barely enough to work.Mar 08 03:32
DaemonFC[m]It's rotting inside.Mar 08 03:32
schestowitz__yeahMar 08 03:33
schestowitz__I followed the suggestions made thereMar 08 03:33
schestowitz__still did not workMar 08 03:33
schestowitz__sometimes along the lines of discarding cookies about login statusMar 08 03:33
DaemonFC[m]Many sites have major problems. Firefox refused to put a workaround for my bank in.Mar 08 03:33
schestowitz__:/Mar 08 03:33
DaemonFC[m]Letting their "evangelism" email go to a dead end.Mar 08 03:33
schestowitz__we need to get off the web where it is doable (some sites and use cases)Mar 08 03:33
DaemonFC[m]Something similar happened with Facebook for a while.Mar 08 03:34
DaemonFC[m]For two years, Facebook Messenger video chats worked if you shimmed the UA as Chrome.Mar 08 03:34
DaemonFC[m]But Mozilla wouldn't do it, so for two years Facebook refused to let you use it and said get Chrome.Mar 08 03:34
schestowitz__maybe I will find another workaroundMar 08 03:34
schestowitz__Chrome lets them spy even moreMar 08 03:35
schestowitz__at many levelsMar 08 03:35
schestowitz__even system levelMar 08 03:35
schestowitz__BTW, in GNOME3...Mar 08 03:35
schestowitz__Chromium is run would ask for a passwordMar 08 03:35
schestowitz__every timeMar 08 03:35
mjg59schestowitz__: Are you willing to admit that your claim that this is the only Freenode IRC channel I'm on was factually inaccurate?Mar 08 03:35
schestowitz__maybe something with session managementMar 08 03:35
schestowitz__but it's still oddMar 08 03:35
schestowitz__mjg59: go full-time trolling elsewhereMar 08 03:36
schestowitz__natsec trollMar 08 03:36
schestowitz__DaemonFC[m]: I didn't know about FBMar 08 03:36
schestowitz__I thought no bank can deny FF access, eitherMar 08 03:36
schestowitz__that might happen again in the futureMar 08 03:36
schestowitz__like in 2005Mar 08 03:36
schestowitz__or earlierMar 08 03:36
DaemonFC[m]They might have just gotten as much sabotage of FOSS out of him as he was good for and moved on.Mar 08 03:36
DaemonFC[m]Who knows?Mar 08 03:36
schestowitz__they would not accept Netscape eitherMar 08 03:36
schestowitz__DaemonFC[m]: let's stay on topicMar 08 03:37
DaemonFC[m]Rebranding it as he finally found his scruples and quit. Mar 08 03:37
schestowitz__don't let trolls derail the channelMar 08 03:37
schestowitz__About FIrefox, it's totally self-nuking nowMar 08 03:37
mjg59schestowitz__: If you make demonstrably untrue statements about me, why should people trust things you saw about anyone else?Mar 08 03:37
schestowitz__and I see people blasting it for censorship nowMar 08 03:37
schestowitz__they think they can pass themselves off as "ethical" censorship now to gain usersMar 08 03:37
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, fuck Firefox.Mar 08 03:37
schestowitz__It's doneMar 08 03:38
DaemonFC[m]It's deader than a can of SPAM.Mar 08 03:38
schestowitz__It's funded by GoogleMar 08 03:38
DaemonFC[m]Time to move to Brave.Mar 08 03:38
schestowitz__to combat antitrustMar 08 03:38
schestowitz__Aral Blakan blasted them for itMar 08 03:38
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schestowitz__taking Google bribes and then shilling against DOJMar 08 03:38
schestowitz__to defend their paymasterMar 08 03:38
schestowitz__not sure aboyt BraveMar 08 03:38
DaemonFC[m]The only point is to say there's some other web engine that people could conceivably use.Mar 08 03:38
schestowitz__it's spun off ChromiumMar 08 03:38
DaemonFC[m]When there's no point because all it does is ape Chrome, including its shitty crippled extensions.Mar 08 03:39
schestowitz__Mozilla has geckoMar 08 03:39
schestowitz__but that helps antitrust aspects for GoogleMar 08 03:39
schestowitz__I will check if there's a FIrefox CLI option for closing tabs, but doubt itMar 08 03:40
schestowitz__I went through all the options alreadyMar 08 03:40
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, Mozilla has an odd history of only surviving because they're tangentially useful for some big company to get a better deal from Microsoft or to keep antitrust lawsuits at bay.Mar 08 03:40
DaemonFC[m]They've finally hit a low point because AOL was just handing them cash and letting them build a web browser.Mar 08 03:40
MinceRit does more than ape chrome now -- it blocks ALSA :>Mar 08 03:41
DaemonFC[m]Remember AOL telling Microsoft that they wanted settlement money and a free license to use Trident and then when they got it, they spun Mozilla off with a couple million dollars and said good luck?Mar 08 03:41
schestowitz__  --new-instance     Open new instance, not a new window in running instance.Mar 08 03:41
DaemonFC[m]I think they used the threat of Gecko to get a ~$450 million settlement from Microsoft and the free IE license.Mar 08 03:42
schestowitz__Microsoft took their patents later, DaemonFC[m]Mar 08 03:42
DaemonFC[m]Which, the second part makes no sense.Mar 08 03:42
DaemonFC[m]Trident is a part of Windows.Mar 08 03:42
DaemonFC[m]You can embed it just by being a Windows application. No license is needed.Mar 08 03:42
schestowitz__LOL. "Firefox is already running, but is not responding. To use Firefox, you must first close the existing Firefox process, restart your device, or use a different profile."Mar 08 03:43
schestowitz__This is what you get when using --new-instanceMar 08 03:43
DaemonFC[m]There have been browsers besides IE that used Trident. Several added things like ad blockers and tabs to it.Mar 08 03:43
schestowitz__do they even test their own software?Mar 08 03:43
DaemonFC[m]I hear KMeleon is still around.Mar 08 03:44
DaemonFC[m]I used that a lot on my IE-less Windows 98 box.Mar 08 03:44
DaemonFC[m]Gecko was suitable, but it drew its own interface, which was sluggish and not "native".Mar 08 03:44
schestowitz__falkon and qupzilla both have more CLI option or more useful options than Moz FFMar 08 03:44
schestowitz__I know the latter is just older FalkonMar 08 03:44
schestowitz__BTW, re FalkonMar 08 03:45
schestowitz__Google would sometimes not load up in itMar 08 03:45
schestowitz__they sort of 'rate-limit' itMar 08 03:46
schestowitz__but who would file antitrust complaint? KDE?Mar 08 03:46
DaemonFC[m]I just use DuckDuckGo in Brave.Mar 08 03:46
DaemonFC[m]It doesn't have a default search engine.Mar 08 03:46
schestowitz__http://www.netsurf-browser.org/documentation/info.htmlMar 08 03:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.netsurf-browser.org | NetSurf | User InformationMar 08 03:46
schestowitz__"At present, NetSurf has only primitive and incomplete support for JavaScript, which we disable by default. Without JavaScript, NetSurf is able to provide access to most of sites on the World Wide Web. Some sites, however, will not display correctly or be unworkable due to heavy reliance on this standard."Mar 08 03:46
schestowitz__DaemonFC[m]: DDG is fake privacyMar 08 03:47
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, NetSurf is useless for all but the most basic sites.Mar 08 03:47
schestowitz__you support charlatans and liarsMar 08 03:47
schestowitz__there are some searx instancesMar 08 03:47
DaemonFC[m]They're not as nasty as Google and you don't log into it.Mar 08 03:47
schestowitz__https://searx.feneas.org has good uptimeMar 08 03:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-searx.feneas.org | searxMar 08 03:47
DaemonFC[m]And it doesn't fuck with you if you use a VPN or Tor.Mar 08 03:47
schestowitz__DaemonFC[m]: they can correlate your cookiesMar 08 03:47
DaemonFC[m]DuckDuckGo works without Javascript.Mar 08 03:48
Ariadne[21:42] <DaemonFC[m]> You can embed it just by being a Windows application. No license is needed.Mar 08 03:48
schestowitz__and IP address, if cookies don't do it (VPN useless in that context)Mar 08 03:48
DaemonFC[m]Google doesn't.Mar 08 03:48
Ariadnenot on mac os 9 :)Mar 08 03:48
DaemonFC[m]<Ariadne "not on mac os 9 :)"> There was an IE for Mac, but it was name only. The engine was actually fairly standards compliant for the time.Mar 08 03:48
schestowitz__check page source of google.comMar 08 03:48
schestowitz__good for a laugh, at least...Mar 08 03:49
Ariadne[21:48] <DaemonFC[m]> <Ariadne "not on mac os 9 :)"> There was an IE for Mac, but it was name only. The engine was actually fairly standards compliant for the time.Mar 08 03:52
Ariadneyes but AOL needed a license for that engineMar 08 03:52
AriadneAOL was also available on mac :)Mar 08 03:52
DaemonFC[m]Oh that's right. But didn't they use Gecko on the Mac or something?Mar 08 03:55
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Ariadnenot at firstMar 08 03:55
DaemonFC[m]I used a beta of AOL for Windows with Gecko.Mar 08 03:55
DaemonFC[m]They had a client that was ready to go.Mar 08 03:55
Ariadnei think they switched to gecko for a whileMar 08 03:56
Ariadnethen back to IEMar 08 03:56
Ariadne“compuserve 2000” was AOL plus gecko Mar 08 03:56
schestowitz__nothing I've attempted it workingMar 08 04:01
schestowitz__inc. embedding the session ID in the URLMar 08 04:01
schestowitz__after a browser restartMar 08 04:02
techrights-botAn hour wasted trying to get #mozilla #firefox to act sane again. In vain. To no avail...Mar 08 04:03
techrights-bot#mozilla #firefox will continue bleeding and losing users... as long as #google finds it useful for #antitrust prevention purposes and maybe some (remaining) Firefox uses directed to Google by default, with address bar as Google #keyloggerMar 08 04:04
techrights-bot#Techrights Bulletin for Sunday, March 07, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintextMar 08 04:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin ArchivesMar 08 04:05
techrights-bot#Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharingMar 08 04:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS IndexMar 08 04:06
techrights-botHow to get yourself even more tightly controlled by #google #monopoly inside #youtube https://www.maketecheasier.com/get-custom-url-for-youtube-channel/ you should #deletegoogle and control your own stuff, instead...Mar 08 04:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | How to Get a Custom URL for Your YouTube Channel - Make Tech EasierMar 08 04:07
techrights-botIt's international corporations-pretend-to-care about-women day... while abusing them all (check how many shareholders are female) http://techrights.org/2020/11/03/the-harassment-claims-in-full/Mar 08 04:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Outreachy as ‘Hush Money’ (Bribe) From Monopolies | TechrightsMar 08 04:08
techrights-botAll this "hashtag" 'activism' merely benefit truly racist, imperialistic companies (GAFAM+Twitter) that farm people's brains and end up selling them to those who commit crimes against humanity https://rdnewsnow.com/2021/03/07/international-womens-day-events-going-virtual-for-2021/Mar 08 04:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-International Women’s Day events going virtual for 2021 | rdnewsnow.comMar 08 04:10
techrights-botStill waiting for International Crimes Against Humanity Awareness Day...Mar 08 04:11
techrights-botLinux pee Command – Tee Standard Input Into Pipes https://www.putorius.net/linux-pee-command-tee-standard-input-into-pipes.html maybe they will 'cancel' this command, because companies that "KILL(1)" people say it's insensitive (all animals pee by the way)Mar 08 04:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.putorius.net | Linux pee Command - Tee Standard Input Into Pipes - PutoriusMar 08 04:13
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techrights-botSad but true. #distrowatch has added #surveillance / #spyware to all pages in order to 'monetise' site visitors. Do not access the site with #javascript available/on.Mar 08 04:18
techrights-bot"Helping victims of harassment is not an easy thing but it is something that any of us may be called upon to do from time to time. It is an inevitable burden of being in a leadership position." http://techrights.org/2020/11/03/the-harassment-claims-in-full/Mar 08 04:19
techrights-botNowadays "innovation" means "moving to the cloud" i.e. outsourcing to #monopolies with #backdoors and pervasive #surveillance at every corner, not for your protection but for #socialcontrol (protecting the biggest abusers from accountability). VC money flows towards such 'innovation'...Mar 08 04:25
techrights-bot#Review : #ArtixLinux in 2021 • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148551 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 08 04:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Review: Artix Linux in 2021 | Tux MachinesMar 08 04:26
techrights-bot#corporateMedia : you cannot trust Web sites online until they have loads and loads of scripts, cookies and ads (like they do). Otherwise, if they don't serve the spying industry, they aren't "credible"...Mar 08 04:27
techrights-bot"We don’t know if #Google intended to exert some influence by withholding the money, if they had general concerns about the organizers or if it was just a blunder" http://techrights.org/2021/03/07/foss-people-trafficking/Mar 08 04:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | When I Discovered People Trafficking in Free/Open Source Software | TechrightsMar 08 04:28
techrights-bot#Audiocasts /Shows: Open Source Security Podcast, Linux Action News, and #SMLR • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148552 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 08 04:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Audiocasts/Shows: Open Source Security Podcast, Linux Action News, and SMLR | Tux MachinesMar 08 04:34
techrights-ipfs ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▂▂▁▅▃▃▅▁▄▁▄▅▁▃▄▃▄▁▅▅▁▅▅▅▅▅▂▂▃▅▁▅▄▁ avg(k/sec) 32.55 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▁▁█▂█▄▅▂█▁█▂▂▃▁▂▁▁▂▂▄▂▂▁▁▁█▁▃█▂█▁ avg(k/sec) 118.95▕ swarm size (avg): 130.14  ⟲Mar 08 04:38
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techrights-botThe Banality of #Bribery • 𝕿𝖊𝖈𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍𝖙𝖘 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/03/08/the-banality-of-bribery/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/08/the-banality-of-bribery/Mar 08 05:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Banality of Bribery | TechrightsMar 08 05:05
techrights-bot#Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148553 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 08 05:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesMar 08 05:25
techrights-bot#ZeMarmot Is Working On Searchable Layer Groups, Stored Layer Selection And Other Cool Features For #GIMP • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148554 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 08 05:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | ZeMarmot Is Working On Searchable Layer Groups, Stored Layer Selection And Other Cool Features For GIMP | Tux MachinesMar 08 05:26
techrights-bot#Waffle 1.7.0 • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148555 •●• #Graphics #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 08 05:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Waffle 1.7.0 | Tux MachinesMar 08 05:26
techrights-botTo understand why institutions defend and sometimes even give awards for the very things they claim to be against one must examine the flow of money (with strings attached to it) • 𝕿𝖊𝖈𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍𝖙𝖘 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/03/08/the-banality-of-bribery/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/08/the-banality-of-bribery/Mar 08 05:26
techrights-botA lot of political activism turns out to be just corporate #lobbying disguised as "manners"Mar 08 05:27
techrights-botI'm told that #duckduckgo has quietly outsourced all of its data to #microsoft (and #nsa #espionage operation), but am checking further to verify...Mar 08 05:31
techrights-bot#duckDuckGo does not just attack your #privacy but it's also a #keylogger and if you still use it then you're harming yourself http://techrights.org/2020/07/02/ddg-privacy-abuser-in-disguise/Mar 08 05:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Why People Should Never Ever Use DuckDuckGo | TechrightsMar 08 05:35
superkuhJust use the HTML interface.Mar 08 05:38
techrights-ipfs ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▂▄▃▂▁▂▁▄▄▄▂▂▆▁▂▅▆▆▆▁▂▂▃▁▂▂▃▂▃▃▄▄▃▄▅▁▁ avg(k/sec) 15.63 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▁▁▁█▁▁█▃▁▁█▁▂▁▂▁█▂█▁█▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▂█▁ avg(k/sec) 88.51▕ swarm size (avg): 130.35  ⟲Mar 08 05:38
superkuhhttp://searxes.eu.org/ redirects to a web interface for an empty git repo.Mar 08 05:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-crimeflare/cloudflare-tor: - README.md at master - cloudflare-tor - Codeberg.orgMar 08 05:40
techrights-bot#qutebrowser spies on you the very moment you launch it, at least on #debian #buster ... but you know those people don't give a damn about #privacy because they develop on #microsoft servers.Mar 08 05:44
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techrights-botMoving Away From the World Wide Web is a Wise Move, at Least to the Degree Which is Possible • 𝕿𝖊𝖈𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍𝖙𝖘 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/03/08/away-from-www/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/08/away-from-www/Mar 08 05:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Moving Away From the World Wide Web is a Wise Move, at Least to the Degree Which is Possible | TechrightsMar 08 05:55
schestowitz__superkuh: ohMar 08 05:56
techrights-ipfs ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▂▄▅▁▃▃▄▆▃▄▃▁▅▄▅▇▂▂▃▃▄▅▂▂▂▁▄▅▅▂▃▆▅▁▅▁ avg(k/sec) 14.25 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▁▁▂▄▁▁▂▁▁█▂▃▁▁▁▂▁█▁▂▁▂▂▃█▁██▁▁▁▂▂█▂▁ avg(k/sec) 81.43▕ swarm size (avg): 130.55  ⟲Mar 08 06:38
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techrights-bot● NEWS ● #Bloomberg #microsoft #racism #xenophobia ☞ Microsoft Attack Blamed On China Morphs Into Global Crisis https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-03-07/hackers-breach-thousands-of-microsoft-customers-around-the-world http://techrights.org/2021/03/03/microsoft-blame-shifting-tactics/Mar 08 08:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bloomberg - Are you a robot?Mar 08 08:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Weaponises (and Further Spreads) Racism to Distract From Its Own Incompetence (and ‘Five Eyes’ Collusion for Back Door Access) | TechrightsMar 08 08:07
techrights-bot● NEWS ● #ITWire ☞ #Windows #ransomware gangs will hit all creatures big and small https://www.itwire.com/security/windows-ransomware-gangs-will-hit-all-creatures-big-and-small.htmlMar 08 08:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iTWire - Windows ransomware gangs will hit all creatures big and smallMar 08 08:08
techrights-bot● NEWS ● #TheHill #Privacy #Surveillance ☞ Tech giants in brewing battle over tracking, ads https://thehill.com/policy/technology/541878-tech-giants-in-brewing-battle-over-tracking-ads #google #espionageMar 08 08:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Tech giants in brewing battle over tracking, ads | TheHillMar 08 08:09
techrights-bot● NEWS ● #Salon ☞ #Humanitarian #imperialism : How the media exploits liberals' empathy to sell them #war https://www.salon.com/2021/03/07/humanitarian-imperialism-how-the-media-exploits-liberals-empathy-to-sell-them-war_partner/ http://techrights.org/2021/03/06/astroturfing-vs-grassroots/Mar 08 08:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Humanitarian imperialism: How the media exploits liberals' empathy to sell them war | Salon.comMar 08 08:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Corporations Do Not Represent Communities and Activists, They Just Exploit Them, Discredit Them, and Hijack Their Hard Work | TechrightsMar 08 08:10
techrights-bot#IRC Proceedings: Sunday, March 07, 2021 • 𝕿𝖊𝖈𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍𝖙𝖘 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/03/08/irc-log-070321/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/08/irc-log-070321/Mar 08 08:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Sunday, March 07, 2021 | TechrightsMar 08 08:15
techrights-botMore #Webbrowsers finally support the #Geminiprotocol and decentralisation is gaining traction (it’s even in mainstream European media right about now) • 𝕿𝖊𝖈𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍𝖙𝖘 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/03/08/away-from-www/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/08/away-from-www/Mar 08 08:16
techrights-botPoliticians as bribed moles of the #litigation fanatics and #patent profiteers https://www.patentdocs.org/2021/03/sen-tillis-sends-letter-to-president-regarding-next-uspto-director.html #corruption #uspto #patentsMar 08 08:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patentdocs.org | Patent Docs: Sen. Tillis Sends Letter to President Regarding Next USPTO DirectorMar 08 08:19
techrights-bot"deltapatents have said paper B was very difficult, to the point that even their experienced attorneys and tutors cannot work out what is expected" http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/03/a-chaotic-start-to-eeqes.html?showComment=1615138213026#c6970804188757360743 see http://techrights.org/2021/03/03/epo-does-not-understand-software/Mar 08 08:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | A chaotic start to the eEQEs - The IPKatMar 08 08:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EPO’s Software Blunders Are Inevitable Outcome of Technically Clueless Management Which Grants Illegal Patents on Software | TechrightsMar 08 08:20
techrights-botSelling #hardware as "HEY HI" (junk buzzwords) when what you're actually pushing is mass #surveillance and military-grade #espionage https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/03/08/edgeturing-ai-video-processing-socionext-sc2000-4k-camera-hailo-8-ai-accelerator/ #listeningDevicesMar 08 08:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Edge AI video processing system combines SocioNext SC2000 4K camera SoC with Hailo-8 AI acceleratorMar 08 08:22
techrights-botDaily #dilbert https://dilbert.com/strip/2021-03-07Mar 08 08:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fired For Social Media - Dilbert Comic Strip on 2021-03-07 | Dilbert by Scott AdamsMar 08 08:24
techrights-bot#bipartisanship #biden https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/06/us/stimulus-senate-bipartisanship-biden.htmlMar 08 08:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | After Stimulus Victory in Senate, Reality Sinks in: Bipartisanship Is Dead - The New York TimesMar 08 08:24
techrights-bot#jitsimeet http://www.mpaoli.net/~michael/tmp/2jitsiMar 08 08:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Missing content type. Ignoring.Mar 08 08:24
techrights-botShame on #indiatimes and #nytimes for helping #microsoft #propaganda that is in effect racist #blameshifting http://techrights.org/2021/03/03/microsoft-blame-shifting-tactics/Mar 08 08:27
techrights-bot#boycottGoogle https://lbry.tv/@TheLinuxGamer:f/Google-STILL-won't-fix-the-real-issue-with-online-ads.:eMar 08 08:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lbry.tv | Google's new FEDERATED ad system is still BAD NEWS.Mar 08 08:27
techrights-botold: building your own #linux #kernel https://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/How_to_build_and_install_your_own_Linux_kernelMar 08 08:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wiki.linuxquestions.org | How to build and install your own Linux kernel - LQWikiMar 08 08:27
techrights-bot#freesw in #india https://www.business-standard.com/article/technology/explained-how-open-source-software-is-powering-india-s-startup-ecosystem-121030700864_1.html #paywallMar 08 08:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.business-standard.com | Explained: How open-source software is powering India's startup ecosystem | Business Standard NewsMar 08 08:29
techrights-bot#cuomo was hailed as a hero just a year ago by #corporateMedia https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/two-more-women-sexual-harassment-cuomo-1137929/Mar 08 08:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rollingstone.com | Two More Women Make Sexual Harassment Claims Against Cuomo - Rolling StoneMar 08 08:29
CrystalMathi believe them, Cuomo is a piece of garbage, he must have groped one or twoMar 08 08:38
mjg59And, again, sexual assault is on topic when it serves a specific endMar 08 08:40
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techrights-bot● NEWS ● #CommonDreams ☞ Opinion | 9 Skillful Struggles Happening Right Now https://www.commondreams.org/views/2021/03/07/9-skillful-struggles-happening-right-nowMar 08 09:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | 9 Skillful Struggles Happening Right NowMar 08 09:43
techrights-bot● NEWS ● #CommonDreams #bezos ☞ Opinion | Why the #Amazon Worker Vote in #Bessemer Means So Much https://www.commondreams.org/views/2021/03/07/why-amazon-worker-vote-bessemer-means-so-muchMar 08 09:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | Why the Amazon Worker Vote in Bessemer Means So MuchMar 08 09:44
techrights-bot● NEWS ● #CommonDreams ☞ Opinion | Remembering W.E.B. Du Bois: A Giant in the Struggle for Black Freedom in the US https://www.commondreams.org/views/2021/03/07/remembering-web-du-bois-giant-struggle-black-freedom-usMar 08 09:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | Remembering W.E.B. Du Bois: A Giant in the Struggle for Black Freedom in the USMar 08 09:44
techrights-bot"Judge Thembekile Malusi of the High Court Eastern Cape Division in Port Elizabeth has found two German nationals guilty of the murder of Claus Schroeder, and fraud…" https://www.all4women.co.za/2208204/news/south-african-news/german-couple-guilty-of-murdering-man-over-farmland-after-6-year-trialMar 08 09:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.all4women.co.za | NO TITLEMar 08 09:47
techrights-bot#blackmail and #extortion artists #femmewashing to make themselves look ethical https://www.managingip.com/article/b1qty5zgpk7yvd/managing-ip-celebrates-international-womens-day today is a corporate day, hijacking the hard work of campaigners http://techrights.org/2021/03/06/astroturfing-vs-grassroots/Mar 08 09:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | Managing IP celebrates International Women’s Day | Managing Intellectual PropertyMar 08 09:50
techrights-botGemini Capsules and Pages Now Accessible in a Web Browser, Qutebrowser, But #Qutebrowser Has Issues • 𝕿𝖊𝖈𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍𝖙𝖘 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/03/08/qutebrowser-qute-gemini/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/08/qutebrowser-qute-gemini/Mar 08 10:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Gemini Capsules and Pages Now Accessible in a Web Browser, Qutebrowser, But Qutebrowser Has Issues | TechrightsMar 08 10:15
techrights-botCross-Examination of French Judges (Interview Part I: National Introspection) http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/03/08/cross-examination-of-french-judges-interview-part-i-national-introspection/ #france has a corrupt #patent system and that #corruption has spread to #epo http://techrights.org/2020/03/07/inpi-corruption-scandal/Mar 08 10:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | Cross-Examination of French Judges (Interview Part I: National Introspection) - Kluwer Patent BlogMar 08 10:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Financial and Legal Corruption Scandal in France (INPI) Implicating the Person Benoît Battistelli Put in Charge of the EPO’s Finances | TechrightsMar 08 10:16
techrights-botAgain, as usual from #AstraZeneca shills, no mention of the fact that those #EPO Boards of Appeal lack independence -- a fact they repeatedly complain about http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/03/second-medical-use-dosage-regieme-claim.html see http://techrights.org/2019/07/18/g-219-eba-epo/Mar 08 10:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Second medical use dosage regimen claim successfully traverses both insufficiency and "obvious-to-try" attacks (T 0799/16) - The IPKatMar 08 10:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Index: G 2/19 (Enlarged Board of Appeal, EPO) | TechrightsMar 08 10:19
techrights-botAs noted earlier this morning, it’s nowadays possible to access #Geminicapsules through a Web browser without any Web proxies; but the (likely) first browser with that capability has numerous big issues • 𝕿𝖊𝖈𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍𝖙𝖘 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/03/08/qutebrowser-qute-gemini/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/08/qutebrowser-qute-gemini/Mar 08 10:20
techrights-botDon't let companies that call themselves "Open Source" become "Out Source". Many of them nowadays promote #clowncomputing and merely outsource clients' systems to #surveillance companies with #proprietarySoftware GUIsMar 08 10:23
techrights-bot#HowTo Self Host #JitsiMeet With Docker [Step by Step Guide] ⇨ https://linuxhandbook.com/self-host-jitsi-meet/ •●• #LinuxHandbook #GNU #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/03/08/#latestMar 08 10:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxhandbook.com | How to Self Host Jitsi Meet With Docker [Step by Step Guide]Mar 08 10:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media PostsMar 08 10:23
techrights-botRacist and sexist #ibm pretends to care for women because today is a corporate stunt day; they hijack activists' causes for PR https://opensource.com/article/21/3/women-in-tech see http://techrights.org/2021/03/06/astroturfing-vs-grassroots/Mar 08 10:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-10 articles you should read right now by women in tech | Opensource.comMar 08 10:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Corporations Do Not Represent Communities and Activists, They Just Exploit Them, Discredit Them, and Hijack Their Hard Work | TechrightsMar 08 10:25
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techrights-bot#Ubuntu Studio review • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148556 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 08 11:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Studio review | Tux MachinesMar 08 11:45
techrights-bot#freesw tools for #weddingplanning • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148557 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 08 11:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 6 open source tools for wedding planning | Tux MachinesMar 08 11:46
techrights-bot#Kdenlive 20.12.3 is out • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148558 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #KDEMar 08 11:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kdenlive 20.12.3 is out | Tux MachinesMar 08 11:46
techrights-bot#Lenovo M93 Ultra Small PC Running GNU/Linux – Week 1 • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148559 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 08 11:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Lenovo M93 Ultra Small PC Running Linux – Week 1 | Tux MachinesMar 08 11:47
techrights-botWife points out that in almost no language there's a word/name for a parent who lost a child. She speaks 5 languages. For loss of spouse we have widow/widower, lost of parents -- orphan. Why nothing for loss of children? "Childless" NOT the same.Mar 08 11:52
techrights-botReal #Feminism is Grassroots, Not a Corporate Ploy (to Improve Image and Sales) • 𝕿𝖊𝖈𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍𝖙𝖘 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/03/08/corporate-hijack-of-real-feminism/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/08/corporate-hijack-of-real-feminism/Mar 08 12:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Real Feminism is Grassroots, Not a Corporate Ploy (to Improve Image and Sales) | TechrightsMar 08 12:41
techrights-bot#Android Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148560 •●• #Google #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 08 12:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesMar 08 12:42
techrights-botThe insulting publicity stunt many will be exposed to throughout the day is largely a corporate-led Public Relations charade, painting sexist companies as defenders of women • 𝕿𝖊𝖈𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍𝖙𝖘 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/03/08/corporate-hijack-of-real-feminism/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/08/corporate-hijack-of-real-feminism/Mar 08 13:05
techrights-botht>Mar 08 13:07
techrights-botViews from the public not even sought because this propaganda site is a front group for patent profiteers, including predators from pharmaceutical companies (or their lawyers)https://www.managingip.com/article/b1qtzdryvpcndj/counsel-reveal-how-pharma-can-benefit-from-patent-arbitrationMar 08 13:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | Counsel reveal how pharma can benefit from patent arbitration | Managing Intellectual PropertyMar 08 13:08
techrights-bot#Ubuntu Blog: #Security podcast: February https://ubuntu.com//blog/security-podcast-februaryMar 08 13:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Security podcast: February | UbuntuMar 08 13:14
techrights-bot"The general consensus among experts is that #GNU #Linux is a highly secure OS - arguably the most secure OS by design." https://linuxsecurity.com/features/features/how-secure-is-linuxMar 08 13:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxsecurity.com | How Secure Is Linux?.Mar 08 13:15
techrights-botToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148561 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 08 13:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesMar 08 13:22
techrights-bot#Security : Blaming Microsoft Back Doors/Bug Doors on Others, Ubuntu Security, and GNU/Linux Analysis • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148562 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 08 13:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: Blaming Microsoft Back Doors/Bug Doors on Others, Ubuntu Security, and GNU/Linux Analysis | Tux MachinesMar 08 13:23
techrights-bot#SparkyLinux 2021.03 Release Introduces a #KDE Plasma Edition, #Xfce 4.16 Update, and More Upgrades http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148513#comment-28545Mar 08 13:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Sparky 2021.03 | Tux MachinesMar 08 13:26
techrights-botSay NO to Big Tech deciding Global Governance of #BigTech https://stop.zona-m.net/2021/03/say-no-to-big-tech-deciding-global-governance-of-big-tech/ #microsoft #antitrust #amazon #facebookMar 08 13:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stop.zona-m.net | Say NO to Big Tech deciding Global Governance of Big Tech | Stop at Zona-MMar 08 13:30
techrights-botToday’s 𝐓𝐮𝐱 𝐌𝐚𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐞𝐬 Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148563 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 08 13:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesMar 08 13:43
techrights-botLinks 8/3/2021: Waffle 1.7.0 and a Look at the New Pardus (19.5) • 𝕿𝖊𝖈𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍𝖙𝖘 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/03/08/waffle-1-7-0/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/08/waffle-1-7-0/Mar 08 13:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 8/3/2021: Waffle 1.7.0 and a Look at the New Pardus (19.5) | TechrightsMar 08 13:43
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techrights-bot#microsoft uses #racism to distract from its own #corruption and in the process may lead to war https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-03-07/hackers-breach-thousands-of-microsoft-customers-around-the-world see http://techrights.org/2021/03/03/microsoft-blame-shifting-tactics/Mar 08 13:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bloomberg - Are you a robot?Mar 08 13:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Weaponises (and Further Spreads) Racism to Distract From Its Own Incompetence (and ‘Five Eyes’ Collusion for Back Door Access) | TechrightsMar 08 13:52
techrights-botSofa gaming Linux distro #GamerOS version 23 is out continuing to fill the gap of SteamOS | GamingOnLinux ⇨ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/03/sofa-gaming-linux-distro-gameros-version-23-is-out-continuing-to-fill-the-gap-of-steamos •●• #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #GamesMar 08 13:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Sofa gaming Linux distro GamerOS version 23 is out continuing to fill the gap of SteamOS | GamingOnLinuxMar 08 13:53
techrights-botMario Maker-like platformer #MakerKing has a huge update, lets you make mobs | GamingOnLinux ⇨ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/03/mario-maker-like-platformer-makerking-has-a-huge-update-lets-you-make-mobs •●• #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #JumpaïMar 08 13:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mario Maker-like platformer MakerKing has a huge update, lets you make mobs | GamingOnLinuxMar 08 13:54
techrights-botClickbait tabloid keep personifying news about #linux (making it all about a person, which separately they demonise the ad hominem way) https://www.techradar.com/news/linus-torvalds-pushes-out-emergency-linux-updateMar 08 13:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linus Torvalds pushes out emergency Linux update | TechRadarMar 08 13:56
techrights-bot#Microsoft centric (and connected/paid) tabloids don't want 'boring' headlines like "RC2" so they make it about a person https://www.theregister.com/2021/03/07/linux_5_12_rc2_emergency_swapfile_bug_fix/ see http://techrights.org/2021/02/28/the-register-microsoft-pr/Mar 08 13:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Linus Torvalds issues early Linux Kernel update to fix swapfile SNAFU • The RegisterMar 08 13:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Fall of The Register | TechrightsMar 08 13:57
techrights-botIt's easier to 'cancel' a person (with opinions) than to cancel a project, so... #Tabloids personify #Linux news http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148491#comment-28547 see http://techrights.org/2020/05/25/no-technical-journalism/ and http://techrights.org/2021/01/06/linus-instead-of-linux/Mar 08 14:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 5.12-rc2 | Tux MachinesMar 08 14:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | ‘Journalism’ in 2020: Far More Articles About What Computer Linus Torvalds Bought Than About Linux Releases | TechrightsMar 08 14:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Gossip Mill as ‘News’: The Mainstream Media Covers Linus Instead of Linux | TechrightsMar 08 14:00
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techrights-bot#Server Wars: Why is #Ubuntu Linux the leading choice to replace CentOS for Finserv infrastructure? • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148564 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 08 14:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why is Ubuntu Linux the leading choice to replace CentOS for Finserv infrastructure? | Tux MachinesMar 08 14:09
techrights-botApplying mailing list patches with 'git b4' https://memcpy.io/applying-mailing-list-patches-with-git-b4.html #git #freesw #kernel #linuxMar 08 14:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-memcpy.io | Applying mailing list patches with 'git b4'Mar 08 14:10
XRevan86https://joindiaspora.com/p/20239044Mar 08 14:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Wife points out that in almost no language there's a word/name for ...Mar 08 14:13
XRevan86Probably because child mortality is not what it used to be.Mar 08 14:13
techrights-botFedora Community Blog: Contribute at the Fedora 34 IoT Edition Test Day https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/contribute-at-the-fedora-34-iot-edition-test-day/ #fedora #ibm #redhat #gnu #linuxMar 08 14:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-communityblog.fedoraproject.org | Contribute at the Fedora 34 IoT Edition Test Day – Fedora Community BlogMar 08 14:21
techrights-bot#Fedora and #RedHat Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148565 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 08 14:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora and Red Hat Leftovers | Tux MachinesMar 08 14:26
techrights-botMIT/GNU Scheme version 11.2 is released http://savannah.gnu.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=9954 "This includes a bunch of bug fixes to 11.1, but is otherwise the same. Download from the usual place."Mar 08 14:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-savannah.gnu.org | MIT/GNU Scheme - News: MIT/GNU Scheme version 11.2 is released [Savannah]Mar 08 14:27
techrights-bot#intel is finished. Intel is done. Its products are just #defectiveByDesigns https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Intel-Interconnects-Side-Chan the real engineers leave/left the company http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaksMar 08 14:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Researchers Discover Intel CPU Ring Interconnects Vulnerable To Side Channel Attack - PhoronixMar 08 14:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Intel leaks - TechrightsMar 08 14:29
techrights-bot#bezos is a plunderer who lets #imperialism by #surveillance and #blackmail enter bedrooms and act as more than just #listeningDevices https://palant.info/2021/03/08/how-amazon-assistant-lets-amazon-track-your-every-move-on-the-web/Mar 08 14:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-palant.info | How Amazon Assistant lets Amazon track your every move on the web | Almost SecureMar 08 14:33
techrights-bot#Plots – An Open Source Graph Plotting App for #GNOME • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148566 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 08 14:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Plots – An Open Source Graph Plotting App for GNOME | Tux MachinesMar 08 14:34
techrights-bot"So many people have suggested that I try Brave instead of Firefox. So here's my trying it out. Will it earn my undying affection as it has so many others?" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkZsf979-4UMar 08 14:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Trying Brave Browser. Will it win me over? - YouTubeMar 08 14:36
techrights-bot"Eich says Brave Search already has a waitlist for its launch in the first half of 2021 and vows not to track or profile users." https://www.maketecheasier.com/brave-browser-will-launch-search-engine/Mar 08 14:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | The Brave Browser Will Launch Its Own Search Engine - Make Tech EasierMar 08 14:37
techrights-botROS Kinetic and Ubuntu 16.04 EOL: how to mitigate the impact https://ubuntu.com//blog/ros-kinetic-and-ubuntu-16-04-eol-how-to-mitigate-the-impact #security #gnu #linuxMar 08 14:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ROS Kinetic and Ubuntu 16.04 EOL: how to mitigate the impact | UbuntuMar 08 14:40
techrights-bot#microsoft #azure (failure, has layoffs) is #nsa #prism so any claims of #security go down the drain, it's a marketing farce https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/03/08/nxp-i-mx-8ulp-cortex-a35-m33-secure-processors-azure-sphere-certification/Mar 08 14:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | NXP unveils i.MX 8ULP Cortex-A35/M33 secure processors with optional Azure Sphere certificationMar 08 14:41
techrights-botTwo spying devices conjoined https://opensource.com/article/21/3/android-raspberry-pi #raspberrySpy http://techrights.org/2021/03/07/raspberry-spy-the-rest/Mar 08 14:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cast your Android device with a Raspberry Pi | Opensource.comMar 08 14:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | How To Deal With Your Raspberry Spy — Part V: All The Rest | TechrightsMar 08 14:44
techrights-botQuick Unboxing of my new Thelio Major https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHa5Vp9Ixjk #gnu #linuxMar 08 14:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Quick Unboxing of my new Thelio Major - YouTubeMar 08 14:48
techrights-bot#Haiku activity report - February 2021 • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148567 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #beosMar 08 14:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Haiku activity report - February 2021 | Tux MachinesMar 08 14:50
techrights-bot#Security Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148568 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 08 14:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux MachinesMar 08 14:50
techrights-bot#OpenSUSE Tumbleweed Might See Micro-Architecture Packages For Better Performance • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148569 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #suseMar 08 14:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OpenSUSE Tumbleweed Might See Micro-Architecture Packages For Better Performance | Tux MachinesMar 08 14:51
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techrights-botThe #WorldWideWeb Has Become Proprietary and the Last Remaining ’Major’ Browser That Was (Pre-EME) Free Software Is Rapidly Becoming Useless and User-Hostile (It’s Monopoly- and Surveillance-Sponsored) • 𝕿𝖊𝖈𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍𝖙𝖘 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/03/08/proprietary-www/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/08/proprietary-www/Mar 08 15:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The World Wide Web Has Become Proprietary and the Last Remaining ‘Major’ Browser That Was (Pre-EME) Free Software Is Rapidly Becoming Useless and User-Hostile (It’s Monopoly- and Surveillance-Sponsored) | TechrightsMar 08 15:02
techrights-bot#Games : #GamerOS , MakerKing, Island Artist, Receiver 2 • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148570 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 08 15:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: GamerOS, MakerKing, Island Artist, Receiver 2 | Tux MachinesMar 08 15:07
techrights-bot#Kernel : Git, Intel, AMD and Bugs • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148571 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 08 15:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: Git, Intel, AMD and Bugs | Tux MachinesMar 08 15:07
techrights-botToday in #Techrights • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148572 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 08 15:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesMar 08 15:07
schestowitz__[14:13] <XRevan86> Probably because child mortality is not what it used to be.Mar 08 15:08
schestowitz__so what was the word for it hundred of years ago?Mar 08 15:08
XRevan86schestowitz__: "regular person"Mar 08 15:09
XRevan86When everyone lost one child or another, the concept loses  specificity .Mar 08 15:10
techrights-botCreate Your Own #GNU #Linux Installation | Linux.org ⇨ https://www.linux.org/threads/create-your-own-linux-installation.31338/ •●• #linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/03/08/#latestMar 08 15:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Create Your Own Linux Installation | Linux.orgMar 08 15:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media PostsMar 08 15:11
techrights-botIf the #EuropeanCommission is smart (it's not; it's corrupted by #monopolies and banksters), it'll fund development of #gemini and port what's possible/suitable to it. https://lwn.net/Articles/848659/rssMar 08 15:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-NGI POINTER offers funding for internet/web architects [LWN.net]Mar 08 15:15
techrights-botTired of the #raspberrySpy spying for #microsoft ? Try this. Much better, except the #intel (back doors) chips: http://linuxgizmos.com/robotics-kit-runs-ai-code-on-myriad-x-coral-edge-tpu-and-elkhart-lake-gpu/Mar 08 15:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Robotics kit runs AI code on Myriad X, Coral Edge TPU, and Elkhart Lake GPUMar 08 15:17
techrights-bot"computer runs #Ubuntu 18.04 on a Jetson Xavier NX with GbE with PoE, HDMI, 2x USB 2.0, M.2 B-key for NVMe, and mini-PCIe with SIM."http://linuxgizmos.com/ip67-rated-edge-ai-gateway-runs-linux-on-jetson-xavier-nx/ #gnu #linuxMar 08 15:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | IP67-rated edge AI gateway runs Linux on Jetson Xavier NXMar 08 15:18
MinceRfrom the frying pan into the fireMar 08 15:18
techrights-bot#Mozilla Performance Blog: Performance Sheriff Newsletter (February 2021) https://blog.mozilla.org/performance/2021/03/08/performance-sheriff-newsletter-february-2021/Mar 08 15:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | Performance Sheriff Newsletter (February 2021) – Mozilla PerformanceMar 08 15:23
techrights-botUse Scheme functional programming language with #LambdaChip Alonzo STM32 board ⇨ https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/03/08/use-scheme-functional-programming-language-with-lambdachip-alonzo-stm32-board/ •●• #Linux #GNU #Hardware #cnxsoftware | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/03/08/#latestMar 08 15:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Use Scheme functional programming language with LambdaChip Alonzo STM32 boardMar 08 15:26
techrights-bot#Plasma 5.21 review - Very slick, just one or five oily patches • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148574 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #kdeMar 08 15:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Plasma 5.21 review - Very slick, just one or five oily patches | Tux MachinesMar 08 15:27
techrights-bot#GNULinux on #Devices : Jetson Xavier NX, Fast Sense X Robotics AI Platform, Raspberry Pi, and More • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148573 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 08 15:27
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schestowitz__MinceR: yupMar 08 15:28
schestowitz__intel is the fireMar 08 15:28
schestowitz__heating issuesMar 08 15:29
MinceR:>Mar 08 15:29
MinceR(cat) https://ircz.de/p/21021447Mar 08 15:39
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MinceRhttps://www.oglaf.com/knightsandknaves/Mar 08 17:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.oglaf.com | Knights and KnavesMar 08 17:06
techrights-bot#Android Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148575 •●• #Google #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 08 17:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesMar 08 17:11
DaemonFC[m]Ironically, the flu shot seems to have been more effective against COVID than it was against the flu last year.Mar 08 17:15
DaemonFC[m]https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20201102/get-your-flu-shot-it-might-shield-you-from-severe-covid#1Mar 08 17:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.webmd.com | Flu Shot May Shield You From Severe COVIDMar 08 17:15
techrights-bot#surveillance by aggressive #espionage giant #google is not a substitute for work; hacking around it doesn't make that any less self-harming. It's also a moving target. https://www.ravsam.in/blog/turning-a-google-sheet-into-a-rest-api/Mar 08 17:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ravsam.in | Turning a Google Sheet into a REST APIMar 08 17:17
superkuhWhat? Cringe-worthy.Mar 08 17:17
superkuhIt's pretty simple. People that get vaccinated for flu aren't idiots like 66% of the population is.Mar 08 17:18
superkuhPeople that get flu vaccine are far more likely to behave rationally in a pandemic.Mar 08 17:18
superkuhThis is such a simple explanation I'm shocked it's even news.Mar 08 17:18
superkuhI'm not shocked that it is being misinterpreted.Mar 08 17:19
techrights-bot#LibreOffice QA/Dev Report: February 2021 https://qa.blog.documentfoundation.org/2021/03/08/qa-dev-report-february-2021/Mar 08 17:19
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techrights-botQuick-publishing of poudriere packages https://euroquis.nl//freebsd/2021/03/08/poudriere.html #freebsd #kde #unix #bsdMar 08 17:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-euroquis.nl | Quick-publishing of poudriere packages | [bobulate]Mar 08 17:21
techrights-bot#ibm #redhat : #banks first https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/traditional-doesnt-mean-staid-how-banks-should-be-innovating-todayMar 08 17:22
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schestowitz__[17:18] <superkuh> People that get flu vaccine are far more likely to behave rationally in a pandemic.Mar 08 17:24
schestowitz__I was thinking the sameMar 08 17:24
schestowitz__just walked past a local health centreMar 08 17:24
schestowitz__you can tell who's reckless and who's notMar 08 17:24
schestowitz__afaik, we never got covid and probably will never get it... and might not get any of the current/existing vaccines, eitherMar 08 17:24
schestowitz__they're a first iterationMar 08 17:25
superkuhI will definitely get whatever vaccine first becomes available to me but I'd prefer one of the mRNA ones.Mar 08 17:25
schestowitz__DaemonFC[m]: the pharma pushers have webmbMar 08 17:25
schestowitz__they constantly call Mercola "quack"Mar 08 17:25
schestowitz__becayse many people follow him, esp. in the USMar 08 17:25
schestowitz__superkuh: what age group?Mar 08 17:26
schestowitz__I'm in my 30s, so for me the efficacy/safety is a think to consider. I'm not that desperate or at high risk.Mar 08 17:26
schestowitz__*thing Mar 08 17:26
schestowitz__DaemonFC[m]: anyway, let's stop bringing up this subject hereMar 08 17:27
schestowitz__you move us off topicMar 08 17:27
schestowitz__MinceR: crazy cat ladyMar 08 17:27
schestowitz__makes her life worth livingMar 08 17:27
DaemonFC[m]Mercola is a quack. He sells products on his site that cause tooth decay.Mar 08 17:28
superkuh30s.Mar 08 17:29
superkuhI have been planning for a pandemic since 2006 and I am damn well going to make it through without getting sick.Mar 08 17:29
superkuhThat means a vaccine.Mar 08 17:29
schestowitz__yupMar 08 17:30
schestowitz__same hereMar 08 17:30
schestowitz__but a good oneMar 08 17:30
schestowitz__nothing made in a few monthsMar 08 17:30
schestowitz__and tested on millionsMar 08 17:30
superkuhI'm wary of the adenovirus ones.Mar 08 17:30
superkuhI understand the mRNA ones fully. They're so simple.Mar 08 17:30
superkuhI do not worry.Mar 08 17:31
superkuhThis is a huge advance in tech and safety.Mar 08 17:31
techrights-botThe #WorldWideWeb seems like a lost cause because Web browsers, which nowadays determine what the de facto standards are (same problem as 20 years ago), are monopolistic when it comes fundamentals like rendering engines • 𝕿𝖊𝖈𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍𝖙𝖘 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/03/08/proprietary-www/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/08/proprietary-www/Mar 08 17:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The World Wide Web Has Become Proprietary and the Last Remaining ‘Major’ Browser That Was (Pre-EME) Free Software Is Rapidly Becoming Useless and User-Hostile (It’s Monopoly- and Surveillance-Sponsored) | TechrightsMar 08 17:35
schestowitz__superkuh: yes, but for now there is not always choiceMar 08 17:36
schestowitz__and I wait for independent studiesMar 08 17:36
schestowitz__not corporations' claims and claims from governments they signed secret deals with,  inc. "non-disparagement"Mar 08 17:36
schestowitz__Lancet said Sputnik-V is quite effectiveMar 08 17:36
DaemonFC[m]Israel grabbed 100,000 Moderna doses and then didn't even use them.Mar 08 17:37
DaemonFC[m]Fuckers.Mar 08 17:37
schestowitz__putting side Gates bribes to Lancet, it's still more truthworthy than governmentsMar 08 17:37
schestowitz__DaemonFC[m]: sent abroad I thinkMar 08 17:37
schestowitz__Honduras and stuffMar 08 17:37
DaemonFC[m]They could turn the Moderna ones over to the Palestinian Authority if they're just going to sit there.Mar 08 17:37
DaemonFC[m]But I doubt they will.Mar 08 17:37
schestowitz__Sanders blasted them for itMar 08 17:37
schestowitz__the others did not dareMar 08 17:37
schestowitz__because the Crime Minister would dub them "anti-Semites"Mar 08 17:38
schestowitz__that's all those crooks have leftMar 08 17:38
schestowitz__using the Holocaust to damn critics 80 years later, no matter the substance of the criticismMar 08 17:38
schestowitz__Right-wing maniacsMar 08 17:38
schestowitz__doing photo ops with Donald TrumpMar 08 17:38
schestowitz__anyway, about LancetMar 08 17:38
DaemonFC[m]Yes, you can't criticize us for anything because Holocaust.Mar 08 17:38
schestowitz__it does seem to show some efficacyMar 08 17:38
schestowitz__the Russian vaccine has been out for quite some timeMar 08 17:39
schestowitz__Western media ridicculed itMar 08 17:39
DaemonFC[m]As-if your argument is in favor of bringing the Holocaust back because you want to know 100,000 vaccines didn't go to waste.Mar 08 17:39
schestowitz__"vaccine nationalism"Mar 08 17:39
techrights-bot#FakePatents or #SoftwarePatents again. #swpats are doomed. "On motion to dismiss, the district court found the claims directed to the abstract idea" https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/03/application-directed-technological.htmlMar 08 17:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | Make Sure your Patent Application is "DIRECTED TO" a Specific Technological SolutionMar 08 17:40
DaemonFC[m]https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/08/politics/supreme-court-free-speech-college-religion-case-chike-uzuegbunam/index.htmlMar 08 17:41
techrights-bot#patents are NOT a "market" and this is a spammy puff piece/ad, not #journalism https://www.juve-patent.com/news-and-stories/people-and-business/young-lawyers-on-the-ascent-in-french-patent-market/ JUVE is NOT doing news, it's a #marketing firm http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/JuveMar 08 17:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Supreme Court -- over John Roberts' sole dissent -- rules in favor of student in First Amendment case - CNNPoliticsMar 08 17:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.juve-patent.com | Young lawyers on the ascent in French patent market - JUVE PatentMar 08 17:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Juve - TechrightsMar 08 17:42
DaemonFC[m]I probably would have joined the majority here.Mar 08 17:42
DaemonFC[m]Universities are basically Communist strongholds.Mar 08 17:42
DaemonFC[m]They push Chinese propaganda and Confucius Institutes (more Chinese corruption) while sanctioning religious people for activities that are protected under the constitution.Mar 08 17:43
techrights-bot#copyright maximalists are still at it http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/03/2021-us-copyright-compendium-series-2.htmlMar 08 17:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | 2021 US Copyright Compendium Series #2: Court Decisions - The IPKatMar 08 17:44
DaemonFC[m]They're happy to do it too, even state ones, because they can charge unlimited tuition to rich Chinese (From a Communist state. How does this work?) and fill up all their slots with Chinese students.Mar 08 17:44
DaemonFC[m]And when you do that, you have to appease their Communist Party.Mar 08 17:44
DaemonFC[m]So American students get to hear whatever the Chinese government hands an American state university. It's disgusting. Just absolutely revolting.Mar 08 17:44
kingoffranceits "peace"Mar 08 17:45
DaemonFC[m]It's up on the list with their other corrupt practices.Mar 08 17:46
DaemonFC[m]Like stuffing your courses with irrelevant material to force you to squander high interest loan money on stuff that has nothing to do with what you went there to learn.Mar 08 17:46
schestowitz__universities are not "Communist strongholds."Mar 08 17:46
schestowitz__wth?Mar 08 17:46
schestowitz__too much Fox for you?Mar 08 17:46
DaemonFC[m]Mystery fees. Junk health insurance that's basically fake.Mar 08 17:46
schestowitz__most of the foreign students here are EuropeanMar 08 17:46
schestowitz__and in the US I can imagine not many Chinese go there, certainly not nowMar 08 17:47
schestowitz__anyway, let's get back on topicMar 08 17:47
schestowitz__we don't need this xenophobic crap hereMar 08 17:47
schestowitz__let Microsoft pollute the media with itMar 08 17:47
schestowitz__many businesses that used Exchange will move to gnu/linux soonMar 08 17:47
DaemonFC[m]Pretty much the only way to get out of it here with the fillings in your fucking teeth, a job, no head full of Communist propaganda, and an actual skill is to go to a trade school.Mar 08 17:47
schestowitz__they won't get back to what leaked out all their dataMar 08 17:48
schestowitz__due to Microsoft, not "China"Mar 08 17:48
schestowitz__bblMar 08 17:48
schestowitz__need to record some EPO stuffMar 08 17:48
DaemonFC[m]What's happening now could have been exfiltrated by any nation state that found the same bug in Microsoft's email software.Mar 08 17:48
DaemonFC[m]There's no telling what bugs are currently unknown (to Microsoft or the US government, which uses it all over the place) that nation states are sitting on. They burn one every now and then for a high value prize and then that gets patched, but it's too late and there are more.Mar 08 17:49
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DaemonFC[m]Instead of fixing their bugs, Microsoft spends heavily on a PR blitz to paint everything as a "Linux bug" for false equivalence.Mar 08 17:50
DaemonFC[m]Well, if it's "just as bad", why switch? Mar 08 17:50
DaemonFC[m]That's a better investment than fixing bugs in Windows.Mar 08 17:50
DaemonFC[m]"It'll cost a lot of money to switch to Linux, and when you do it won't be any better. Trust us, and buy all these licenses!".Mar 08 17:51
DaemonFC[m]"Each time there's an emergency, well fix it when your stealth helicopter engine has already been stolen by the Chinese!"Mar 08 17:51
psydroidI hope all of these things will only accelerate Microsoft's death, that's at least one useless company lessMar 08 18:01
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/21022558Mar 08 18:19
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techrights-botLiteral losers https://i.redd.it/p53d3j1urui61.jpgMar 08 18:47
schestowitz__DaemonFC[m]: every bug is either "LINUX" or "computer"Mar 08 18:47
schestowitz__computer= WindowsMar 08 18:47
schestowitz__"LINUX" = anything running on a server with linux somewhere as the kernelMar 08 18:48
schestowitz__can be some buggy and unpatched (for years) CMSMar 08 18:48
schestowitz__"LINUX"Mar 08 18:48
schestowitz__or something with password "goodmorning1"Mar 08 18:48
schestowitz__That's also "LINUX"Mar 08 18:48
MinceRWSL1 is "Linux" without any Linux in it :>Mar 08 18:49
techrights-botToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148576 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 08 18:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesMar 08 18:50
XRevan86MinceR: Check this out: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/47/War_Flag_of_Novorussia.svgMar 08 18:50
MinceR:)Mar 08 18:50
MinceRno stars thoughMar 08 18:50
XRevan86yeaMar 08 18:50
tdeminhttps://linuxreviews.org/Signal_Appears_To_Have_Abandoned_Their_AGPL-licensed_Server_SourcecodeMar 08 18:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxreviews.org | Signal Appears To Have Abandoned Their AGPL-licensed Server Sourcecode - LinuxReviewsMar 08 18:54
DaemonFC[m]I plan to migrate my laptop to a Linux distribution. Ubuntu is certified by Lenovo.Mar 08 18:54
DaemonFC[m]So theoretically anything past the OEM kernel version in Ubuntu LTS should work okay.Mar 08 18:54
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DaemonFC[m]That means maybe Debian 11 and most likely Fedora 33 will work, moreso with the respin that brings in a newer kernel.Mar 08 19:11
DaemonFC[m]The Linux 5.12 RC1 is apparently a real nightmare if you use a swap file.Mar 08 19:12
DaemonFC[m]It can randomly swap out anywhere on that partition, even over files.Mar 08 19:12
DaemonFC[m]So if you don't have swap as a partition then stay away from it until that's fixed.Mar 08 19:12
MinceRyou're not supposed to run an rc kernel outside testing anywayMar 08 19:13
schestowitz__[18:49] <MinceR> WSL1 is "Linux" without any Linux in it :>Mar 08 19:14
schestowitz__Earlier I saw a "LINUX" site covering WSLMar 08 19:14
schestowitz__but...Mar 08 19:14
schestowitz__to be fairMar 08 19:14
schestowitz__those have become rareMar 08 19:14
schestowitz__WSL is barely mentioned anymoreMar 08 19:14
schestowitz__I assume it'll die due to lack of interestMar 08 19:14
schestowitz__it's only mentioned a lot when Microsoft throws lots of money at organics puff piece BSMar 08 19:15
techrights-botSignal = #ProprietarySoftware and you should assume back doors (also see #vault7 leaks and endorsement from regime-changing sociopaths) https://linuxreviews.org/Signal_Appears_To_Have_Abandoned_Their_AGPL-licensed_Server_SourcecodeMar 08 19:16
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/21022517Mar 08 19:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (5269987)Mar 08 19:17
mjg59schestowitz__: It's pretty easy to verify what information is provided to the Signal servers by the client. What are you concerned about in the event of a backdoored server?Mar 08 19:18
tdeminMinceR: Fedora Rawhide uses rc kernelsMar 08 19:18
schestowitz__it's still going?Mar 08 19:19
schestowitz__the people who wrote about it in Planet Fedora are goneMar 08 19:19
MinceRnobody in their right mind uses fedoraMar 08 19:19
schestowitz__Fedora is rottingMar 08 19:19
schestowitz__and after December hacking by IBMMar 08 19:19
schestowitz__hacking as in machete attackMar 08 19:19
schestowitz__against CentOSMar 08 19:19
schestowitz__the Fedora 'community' is 99% IBM staffMar 08 19:19
schestowitz__it's kind of saddening to meMar 08 19:19
MinceRit also comes with cancerd, which is unstable, unreliable, insecure, and it will forever stay that wayMar 08 19:19
schestowitz__they had some good folks therMar 08 19:19
schestowitz__*thereMar 08 19:19
schestowitz__and some of them got bannedMar 08 19:20
schestowitz__they welcomed back Daniel Pocock at leastMar 08 19:20
MinceRwiping your filesystem fits well with cancerdMar 08 19:20
schestowitz__he still uses FedoraMar 08 19:20
schestowitz__MinceR: so do Ubuntu, Debian...Mar 08 19:20
MinceRindeedMar 08 19:20
MinceRthose are even more pointlessMar 08 19:20
schestowitz__sadMar 08 19:20
MinceRsince they ape fedora with a lot of extra workMar 08 19:20
schestowitz__but...Mar 08 19:20
MinceRand in the end they're still the same shitMar 08 19:20
schestowitz__I think this should not be out #1 concernMar 08 19:20
schestowitz__we can deal with systemd as vendor lock-in laterMar 08 19:20
schestowitz__I see migrations away from Red HatMar 08 19:21
schestowitz__the lock-in is not aggressive enoughMar 08 19:21
MinceRi'm dealing with moving to some BSDMar 08 19:21
schestowitz__they cannot pull it offMar 08 19:21
schestowitz__MinceR: OK, fair enoughMar 08 19:21
MinceRand then i can watch the mafias kill what's left of Linux and GNU without being affectedMar 08 19:21
schestowitz__figosdev did that tooMar 08 19:21
schestowitz__MinceR: that's one optionMar 08 19:21
schestowitz__the world runs on gnu/linuxMar 08 19:21
schestowitz__and that won't change any time soonMar 08 19:21
MinceRthe world is thoroughly fuckedMar 08 19:22
schestowitz__we can navigate it in some directionMar 08 19:22
MinceRand people in general didn't care enough to prevent itMar 08 19:22
schestowitz__MinceR: let's do what's possibleMar 08 19:22
MinceReven Linux developers didn't feel the need to fork the kernel to save itMar 08 19:22
schestowitz__MinceR: too busy looking after immediate needsMar 08 19:22
schestowitz__like paying the mortgageMar 08 19:22
schestowitz__food, no covid infection etc.Mar 08 19:22
MinceRhell, we don't even have enough of a community to maintain a good fixed release GNU/Linux distro anymoreMar 08 19:22
MinceRslackware isn't releasing and devuan has failed to remove a lot of systemd crapMar 08 19:23
MinceRand they both seem to come with some form of logindMar 08 19:23
schestowitz__that can changeMar 08 19:23
schestowitz__when people move away from rhelMar 08 19:23
MinceRit can, but it's getting less and less likely to happenMar 08 19:23
schestowitz__many corporations want the pieMar 08 19:23
schestowitz__or pieces of itMar 08 19:23
schestowitz__Google, Microsoft, AMazon...Mar 08 19:23
MinceRi guess eventually people will realize that systemd/hartmanux is shit, just as they realized that windows is shitMar 08 19:23
schestowitz__they even make their own bogus distrosMar 08 19:23
MinceRand then they'll move to the remaining BSD-sMar 08 19:23
schestowitz__and then spam the media with themMar 08 19:23
MinceRand then the mafias will try to ruin that oneMar 08 19:24
MinceRand if the community doesn't learn, they'll succeedMar 08 19:24
schestowitz__the movement became bug enough to be cooptedMar 08 19:24
schestowitz__just like feminismMar 08 19:24
schestowitz__not cooptedMar 08 19:24
schestowitz__by trolls and corporations that employ themMar 08 19:24
schestowitz__the feminists are still out thereMar 08 19:24
schestowitz__the real onesMar 08 19:24
schestowitz__not concern-trolling idiotsMar 08 19:24
schestowitz__same for GNU/LinuxMar 08 19:24
schestowitz__we're hereMar 08 19:24
schestowitz__and we're not a companyMar 08 19:24
schestowitz__we fight onMar 08 19:25
MinceRthere isn't enough of us to maintain something as bloated as LinuxMar 08 19:25
schestowitz__true, butMar 08 19:25
schestowitz__we might not need LinuxMar 08 19:25
MinceRor firefoxMar 08 19:25
schestowitz__we can swap for another kerneklMar 08 19:25
schestowitz__Forget wwwMar 08 19:25
schestowitz__it's too bloatedMar 08 19:25
schestowitz__throw it outMar 08 19:25
schestowitz__except for webform stuffMar 08 19:25
schestowitz__let them bloat it to deathMar 08 19:25
schestowitz__MozgleMar 08 19:25
schestowitz__all those spying firmsMar 08 19:25
schestowitz__they will break itMar 08 19:25
schestowitz__people will move elsewhereMar 08 19:26
schestowitz__like people abandon TwitterMar 08 19:26
schestowitz__deserting it for being not what it wasMar 08 19:26
schestowitz__not a place for real debatesMar 08 19:26
schestowitz__but for celebsMar 08 19:26
schestowitz__same for linuxMar 08 19:26
schestowitz__became a monopolists' playgroundMar 08 19:26
schestowitz__LFMar 08 19:26
*psydroid doesn't want to contribute to or maintain LinuxMar 08 19:26
schestowitz__we can pull the rug from under their feetMar 08 19:26
schestowitz__alpine+ Ariadne are an exampleMar 08 19:26
schestowitz__they use smaller bitsMar 08 19:27
schestowitz__and it gets the job doneMar 08 19:27
schestowitz__Linux is not smallMar 08 19:27
schestowitz__busybox isMar 08 19:27
schestowitz__and lots you can do with itMar 08 19:27
MinceRcan they afford to maintain a kernel fork?Mar 08 19:27
schestowitz__noMar 08 19:27
schestowitz__but they can replace the kernelMar 08 19:27
MinceRthen they're doomed tooMar 08 19:27
schestowitz__the kernel itself might be doomedMar 08 19:27
schestowitz__windows had many driversMar 08 19:27
schestowitz__now linux has more drivers than WindowsMar 08 19:27
schestowitz__and windows rots awayMar 08 19:27
schestowitz__the same can happen to linuxMar 08 19:28
schestowitz__and to web browsersMar 08 19:28
schestowitz__too much stuff int hereMar 08 19:28
MinceRand they're throwing out those driversMar 08 19:28
schestowitz__that you do not needMar 08 19:28
schestowitz__MS Office... sameMar 08 19:28
schestowitz__people move away to 'webapps'Mar 08 19:28
schestowitz__with less featuresMar 08 19:28
MinceRiirc they got rid of the floppy driver recentlyMar 08 19:28
schestowitz__yupMar 08 19:28
schestowitz__Linux is for monopoliesMar 08 19:28
schestowitz__not for old hardwareMar 08 19:28
schestowitz__the goal is moneyMar 08 19:28
schestowitz__not maintaining old machinesMar 08 19:28
schestowitz__selling more junkMar 08 19:28
schestowitz__look at chat 'apps'Mar 08 19:29
schestowitz__we still use IRCMar 08 19:29
schestowitz__we move to geminiMar 08 19:29
schestowitz__ipfs is all command lineMar 08 19:29
schestowitz__unless you fancy GUI like BraveMar 08 19:29
schestowitz__and that generally worksMar 08 19:29
schestowitz__filtering, firewalls, apache, php, text conversions for bulletinsMar 08 19:29
schestowitz__all CLIMar 08 19:29
schestowitz__we're preparing code releasesMar 08 19:29
schestowitz__about 100 programsMar 08 19:29
schestowitz__worked on it this past weekMar 08 19:30
schestowitz__git command line onlyMar 08 19:30
schestowitz__no gui, no browsersMar 08 19:30
schestowitz__git -hMar 08 19:30
schestowitz__all you need to get goingMar 08 19:30
Ariadne[12:27:20] <MinceR> can they afford to maintain a kernel fork?Mar 08 19:35
Ariadneactually, some people in alpine community are working on a new microkernel to replace linuxMar 08 19:35
MinceRinterestingMar 08 19:36
techrights-botExamining Today’s #EPO #Propaganda About the Disastrous #EQE , a Subject of Much Scorn and EPO #Corruption • 𝕿𝖊𝖈𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍𝖙𝖘 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/03/08/utter-disaster-e-eqe-revisionism/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/08/utter-disaster-e-eqe-revisionism/Mar 08 19:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Examining Today’s EPO Propaganda About the Disastrous EQE, a Subject of Much Scorn and EPO Corruption | TechrightsMar 08 19:37
techrights-bot#Android Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148577 •●• #Google #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 08 19:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesMar 08 19:38
liberty_boxhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGPqdbMIwbIMar 08 19:39
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liberty_boxhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8Jrvn2bar8Mar 08 19:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Rama's Rescue | Orphaned Elephant | Sheldrick Trust - YouTubeMar 08 19:40
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techrights-bot#microsoft assassinates #linux https://boilingsteam.com/assassins-greed/Mar 08 19:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boilingsteam.com | Assassin's Greed - Boiling SteamMar 08 19:45
techrights-botServer Security Tips – Secure Your Server with These Best Practices https://www.freecodecamp.org/news/server-security-tips/ #security tips, not too bad based on a quick reading...Mar 08 19:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.freecodecamp.org | Server Security Tips – Secure Your Server with These Best PracticesMar 08 19:53
techrights-botThose tun #gnu #linux by default https://www.suse.com/c/running-edge-artificial-intelligence-k3s-cluster-with-nvidia-jetson-nano-boards-src/Mar 08 19:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Run an Edge AI K3s Cluster on NVIDIA Jetson Nano Boards | SUSE CommunitiesMar 08 19:54
techrights-bot#Signal Appears To Have Abandoned Their AGPL-licensed Server Sourcecode • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148578 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #deletegithubMar 08 19:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Signal Appears To Have Abandoned Their AGPL-licensed Server Sourcecode | Tux MachinesMar 08 19:57
techrights-bot#PhotoFiltre Like Image Editor ‘Photoflare’ 1.6.7 Released with Paint Tool Offsets • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148579 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 08 19:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | PhotoFiltre Like Image Editor ‘Photoflare’ 1.6.7 Released with Paint Tool Offsets | Tux MachinesMar 08 19:57
techrights-bot#Fedora Magazine: How to use Poetry to manage your #Python projects on Fedora https://fedoramagazine.org/how-to-use-poetry-to-manage-your-python-projects-on-fedora/Mar 08 20:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fedoramagazine.org | How to use Poetry to manage your Python projects on Fedora - Fedora MagazineMar 08 20:01
techrights-botUse #gImageReader to Extract Text From Images and PDFs on Linux • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148580 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 08 20:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Use gImageReader to Extract Text From Images and PDFs on Linux | Tux MachinesMar 08 20:01
techrights-bot#PhotoFiltre Like Image Editor ‘Photoflare’ 1.6.7 Released with Paint Tool Offsets • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148579 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 08 20:03
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techrights-botSPAM destroys the #internet (many are #microsoft #windows botnets as well) https://wingolog.org/archives/2021/03/08/99-spamMar 08 20:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wingolog.org | 99% spam -- wingologMar 08 20:06
techrights-bot"In the first days of Android, the main focus was building a more open and flexible mobile operating system. Security was state-of-the-art for the time, inherited from the world of Unix and mainframe computers." https://news.samsung.com/us/understanding-samsung-knox-vault-protecting-data-matters-most/Mar 08 20:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.samsung.com | Understanding Samsung Knox Vault: Protecting the data that matters most - Samsung US NewsroomMar 08 20:07
techrights-botThe EPO’s #eEQE was a complete and utter disaster; but in an act of overt revisionism (i.e. the usual from this administration) the #EPO pretends everything went well, bar a minor glitch lasing a few minutes • 𝕿𝖊𝖈𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍𝖙𝖘 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/03/08/utter-disaster-e-eqe-revisionism/ •●• #EQE #patent #corruption gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/08/utter-disaster-e-eMar 08 20:08
techrights-botNew release of French and #debian #gnu #linux -based distro #liveRaizo (12.21.03.04) https://sourceforge.net/projects/live-raizo/Mar 08 20:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Live Raizo - Linux for Virtual SysAdmin download | SourceForge.netMar 08 20:10
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techrights-bot"...a volunteer is needed to create the Github Actions workflow" ... No, #deletegithub , #rakulang ... it's #ProprietarySoftware and a monopolistic trap looking to undermine everything but #microsoft https://rakudoweekly.blog/2021/03/08/2021-10-automated-star/Mar 08 20:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rakudoweekly.blog | 2021.10 Automated Star – Rakudo Weekly NewsMar 08 20:12
techrights-botEileen McDermott from #patent #extremism site #watchtroll calls a bunch of corrupt politicians, some of them bribed by patent profiteers and litigation fanatics, a "Bipartisan Group of Senators". This site cannot be taken seriously. http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/WatchtrollMar 08 20:17
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techrights-botI've just updated http://techrights.org/2021/03/08/utter-disaster-e-eqe-revisionism/ with an important comment (minutes old). #epo will received major blowback over these lies...Mar 08 20:21
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techrights-bot#NomadBSD 1.4 overview | A persistent live system for your USB flash drive http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148376#comment-28548 #bsd #unixMar 08 20:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | NomadBSD 1.4 is now available! | Tux MachinesMar 08 20:26
techrights-bot#freesw racer Yorg has a new release with improved #gamepad support | GamingOnLinux ⇨ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/03/foss-racer-yorg-has-a-new-release-with-improved-gamepad-support •●• #GamingOnLinux #GNU #LinuxMar 08 20:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-FOSS racer Yorg has a new release with improved gamepad support | GamingOnLinuxMar 08 20:32
techrights-bot"Remember the craziness of Goat Simulator? Wanted Raccoon has a familiar theme of animals going wild and it's entering Early Access on March 19 with #GNU #Linux support." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/03/wanted-raccoon-is-an-upcoming-comedy-game-in-the-spirit-of-goat-simulatorMar 08 20:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Wanted Raccoon is an upcoming comedy game in the spirit of Goat Simulator | GamingOnLinuxMar 08 20:33
liberty_boxhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=736fiBMtADg - MichaelMar 08 20:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cat doesn't finish Vegetables - YouTubeMar 08 20:33
techrights-botBuilding a Retro Linux Gaming Computer - Part 2: Selecting a Graphics Card https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/03/building-a-retro-linux-gaming-computer-part-2-selecting-a-graphics-card #games #gnu #linuxMar 08 20:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Building a Retro Linux Gaming Computer - Part 2: Selecting a Graphics Card | GamingOnLinuxMar 08 20:34
techrights-bot#techrights has a big, new and exclusive #gnu #linux story coming. It's about #swpats / #patent blackmail.Mar 08 20:37
techrights-botUS #imperialism "not the only ones who need a secure traffic analysis resistant anonymity network like Tor. UN human rights lawyer Emma Reilly says it is "great" when working with human rights defenders." https://linuxreviews.org/United_Nations_Whisteblower_Says_The_Tor_Anonymity_Network_Is_Great_For_Human_Rights_WorkMar 08 20:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxreviews.org | United Nations Whisteblower Says The Tor Anonymity Network Is Great For Human Rights Work - LinuxReviewsMar 08 20:38
techrights-bot#Security Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148582 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 08 20:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux MachinesMar 08 20:42
techrights-bot10 Best #Compression Tools for GNU/Linux • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148583 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 08 20:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 10 Best Compression Tools for Linux | Tux MachinesMar 08 20:42
techrights-bot#Games : Assassin’s Greed, Yorg, Wanted Raccoon and More • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148584 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 08 20:43
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techrights-bot"I recently open sourced an application modernization sample, which demonstrates how to modernize an old (2010) Java EE application to become a modern (2021) cloud-native application." Racist #ibm wants your business. https://developer.ibm.com/blogs/10-questions-for-modernizing-old-java-applications/Mar 08 20:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developer.ibm.com | 10 questions for modernizing your old Java applications – IBM DeveloperMar 08 20:46
techrights-bot" #Java 16 is scheduled to be released on March 16. Here is a look at what changes you can expect in the release." https://sdtimes.com/java/whats-coming-in-java-16/Mar 08 20:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sdtimes.com | What’s coming in Java 16 - SD TimesMar 08 20:46
techrights-bot#mozilla : we USED to be about tech... https://blog.mozilla.org/firefox/sophia-keys-apricity-ceramics-woman-owned-online-business/Mar 08 20:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | How one woman fired up her online business during the pandemic | The Firefox FrontierMar 08 20:47
techrights-bot#DistroHopping Doesn’t Make Sense Too Me - YouTube ⇨ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yFys_q1Wx8 •●• #Video #GNU #LinuxMar 08 20:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Distro Hopping Doesn't Make Sense Too Me - YouTubeMar 08 20:50
techrights-bot#Intel Already Started Working On Linux Driver Code For Lunar Lake - Phoronix ⇨ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Intel-Lunar-Lake-e1000e •●• #Phoronix #Kernel #LinuxMar 08 20:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intel Already Started Working On Linux Driver Code For Lunar Lake - PhoronixMar 08 20:50
techrights-bot#suse now doing shameless #openwashing of #proprietarySoftware of #sap https://www.suse.com/c/how-open-source-makes-sap-more-manageable/ see http://techrights.org/2019/07/28/novell-suse-sap/Mar 08 20:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How Open Source Makes SAP More Manageable | SUSE CommunitiesMar 08 20:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | SUSE Said It Was Becoming Independent But Instead It Became Like an ‘Asset’ of SAP (‘German Microsoft’), Which is Hostile Towards Free Software | TechrightsMar 08 20:53
MinceRapparently this works >> https://gist.github.com/bahamas10/aee4cc121c29e6657a91fc53418356c7Mar 08 20:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gist.github.com | Void Linux on Raspberry Pi 4 · GitHubMar 08 20:58
MinceR(and doesn't rely on raspberry os)Mar 08 20:59
psydroidI "almost" got netbsd running on my orange pi last year, but the keyboard didn't work with the pine64 imageMar 08 21:05
techrights-bot#GNOME 40 Mutter Lands Wayland Presentation-Time Support • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148581 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 08 21:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME 40 Mutter Lands Wayland Presentation-Time Support | Tux MachinesMar 08 21:05
psydroidand I can't get it installed on any of my x86 machinesMar 08 21:05
MinceR:(Mar 08 21:08
schestowitz__haMar 08 21:09
schestowitz__if the rasp doesn't work out for you, try the Orange OneMar 08 21:09
techrights-botThe #raspberryPi Foundation attack on #privacy is not a new thing. Many people don't remember that when they launched a physical store they rejected cash payments, i.e. they demand to know your ID if you buy the product. Now they send #MICROSOFT a list and location of all users. #raspberrySpy #WashOnCashMar 08 21:11
techrights-bot#Tor and #Mozilla / #Firefox • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148585 •●• #GNU #freeswMar 08 21:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tor and Mozilla/Firefox | Tux MachinesMar 08 21:12
techrights-bot#Programming Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148586 •●•Mar 08 21:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux MachinesMar 08 21:13
techrights-bot#FreeSoftware Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148587 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 08 21:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Free Software Leftovers | Tux MachinesMar 08 21:13
techrights-botToday’s 𝐓𝐮𝐱 𝐌𝐚𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐞𝐬 Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148588 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 08 21:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesMar 08 21:13
techrights-botLinks 8/3/2021: #Java 16 is Coming and More #SoftwarePatents Thrown Out • 𝕿𝖊𝖈𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍𝖙𝖘 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/03/08/software-patents-thrown-out/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/08/software-patents-thrown-out/Mar 08 21:14
MinceRthere's also a devuan image here, but i haven't tried it yet >> https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=3209&p=4Mar 08 21:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 8/3/2021: Java 16 is Coming and More Software Patents Thrown Out | TechrightsMar 08 21:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dev1galaxy.org | Is any work planned for devuan on the raspberry pi 4? (Page 4) / ARM Builds / Dev1 Galaxy ForumMar 08 21:14
mjg59There are Debian images that work absolutely fine on the Pi at https://wiki.debian.org/RaspberryPiImagesMar 08 21:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wiki.debian.org | RaspberryPiImages - Debian WikiMar 08 21:16
mjg59The downside is that the 0 and 1 implement the ARMv6 ISA, and Debian don't target that, so performance on that hardware is a little lowerMar 08 21:17
mjg59The 2, 3 and 4 are all ARMv7, though, and work fine with the Debian armhf packagesMar 08 21:17
MinceRproblem is, debian images come with cancerdMar 08 21:19
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mjg59Sure. And you can still replace it with another init system if you want.Mar 08 21:21
psydroidI'm only going to keep Debian on my two laptops and maybe an ARM SBCMar 08 21:21
psydroidI've already wiped it from several of my older systemsMar 08 21:22
MinceRif i don't mind losing access to a lot of packages in the processMar 08 21:27
MinceRand what's the point of deadian if one has no access to packages?Mar 08 21:27
mjg59The number of packages that have runtime dependencies on systemd is very smallMar 08 21:27
mjg59There's a number that link to libsystemd, but that doesn't do anything if systemd isn't runningMar 08 21:27
psydroidindeedMar 08 21:32
MinceRuntil your masters decide to push some malicious code into itMar 08 21:33
MinceRwhich then deadian dutifully updates on the victim's computersMar 08 21:33
MinceRnot to mention the whole *logind messMar 08 21:33
psydroidopensuse stealthily re-enabled secure boot on my other laptopMar 08 21:34
psydroidI only have it installed as a backup, but that was a backhanded move as wellMar 08 21:34
MinceRbackhanded moves are what the "modern" crowd is all aboutMar 08 21:35
mjg59Debian doesn't do significant backports to stable releasesMar 08 21:38
mjg59So during the lifetime of a release, there's no risk that a dramatically difference libsystemd is going to show upMar 08 21:39
MinceRi don't trust them to look carefully at the source code of their favorite library to decide whether the new version is "dramatically different" or notMar 08 21:42
MinceRespecially not when their masters at ibm can just force them to adopt anything by changing systemd or gnomeMar 08 21:42
mjg59For the lifetime of a stable release, the only changes that go in are reviewed by multiple peopleMar 08 21:43
mjg59Packages don't end up in stable updates without additional review from the release teamMar 08 21:43
psydroidneither do I, that's why I get rid of it wherever I canMar 08 21:43
MinceRsystemd itself was reviewed by multiple peopleMar 08 21:43
MinceRand they decided it was "stable"Mar 08 21:43
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psydroidthe problem was not caused during the past decade but long before, when corporations got involved with the disingenuous message of working on software for the greater goodMar 08 21:53
psydroida bait and switch tactic so no one thought of forking GNU and Linux right then and thereMar 08 21:54
psydroidnow it's too late and better to start from scratchMar 08 21:54
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vmg3nothing is off limits, does it make sense or am I just being parinoid. how is using the data being used an by who? https://www.techhive.com/article/3610735/google-tv-gets-kids-profiles-and-screen-time-limits.html#tk.rss_allMar 08 22:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Google TV gets kids profiles and screen time limits | TechHiveMar 08 22:28
vmg3Maybe I should just embrace the big G and poison all my data, rather than spread it further to more sites and software I don't understand.   So many security implications.Mar 08 22:36
psydroidjust plug into the Gootrix and life will be greatMar 08 22:38
vmg3limiting exposure Mar 08 22:39
MinceR(cat) https://ircz.de/p/21021321Mar 08 22:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (5235063)Mar 08 22:41
mjg59vmg3: Accounts flagged as being for children actually have to collect less data than for adultsMar 08 22:45
vmg3mjg59: It makes sense but...Mar 08 22:46
mjg59There's a lot of laws that provide additional restrictionsMar 08 22:47
vmg3like do not track?Mar 08 22:47
mjg59Honestly not certain of the specificsMar 08 22:47
vmg3the harder I try to become private, the further I open myself to riskMar 08 22:48
vmg3it seems to me, anywayMar 08 22:48
vmg3i was going to loose lastpass but downloading the csv is a huge riskMar 08 22:49
vmg3changing browsers that import gives another company my dataMar 08 22:50
vmg3avoiding US products is painful Mar 08 22:50
vmg3even donation process exposes dataMar 08 22:52
vmg3damned if you do, damned if you don't situationMar 08 22:53
vmg3end to end encryption should be trustworthy? Mar 08 22:54
vmg3until there's a keyloggerMar 08 22:56
mjg59Yeah, which is why this argument about the Signal server source code is so pointlessMar 08 22:56
mjg59From a security perspective, at least - failing to provide updates to a nominal free software project is a pretty dick moveMar 08 22:57
mjg59But the client code is open, and it's possible to verify what data it's providingMar 08 22:57
vmg3yeahMar 08 22:58
mjg59Even if the current server source *were* available, you wouldn't be able to prove that that's what's runningMar 08 22:58
mjg59You have to assume that the server is backdoored whether you have the source or notMar 08 22:58
MinceRit doesn't matter, signal was already untrustworthyMar 08 22:58
vmg3you're feeding my parinoa Mar 08 22:59
MinceRthey were trying to force people to only use their official binariesMar 08 22:59
vmg3yet I've seen so many claim it's the bestMar 08 22:59
MinceRmany people are wrong, that's business as usualMar 08 22:59
vmg3my head hurtsMar 08 23:00
MinceRso does mineMar 08 23:00
vmg3well just knowing that makes me feel a little betterMar 08 23:00
mjg59MinceR: It's trivial to determine that their binaries correspond to their source codeMar 08 23:03
mjg59What's the threat you're worried aboutMar 08 23:03
mjg59?Mar 08 23:03
MinceRlack of software freedomMar 08 23:04
MinceRwhat if their binaries don't correspond to their source code?Mar 08 23:05
DaemonFC[m]Mandy is running a fever and has aches and chills from the vaccine.Mar 08 23:05
mjg59MinceR: Then questions should be askedMar 08 23:05
DaemonFC[m]Covered under a three day leave with pay policy at Walmart. No points for calling in.Mar 08 23:05
MinceRor one could just use free software for secure communicationMar 08 23:06
mjg59That's a reasonable preferenceMar 08 23:07
DaemonFC[m]For most people side effects last no more than 3 days. I guess we'll cross that bridge when we come to.it.Mar 08 23:07
mjg59But it's simply wrong to imply that there's no way to verify whether or not they're trustworthyMar 08 23:07
MinceRwell, it's easy to verifyMar 08 23:07
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: "No. The bridge is too heavily guarded.".Mar 08 23:07
DaemonFC[m](SG-1)Mar 08 23:07
MinceR:>Mar 08 23:08
MinceRthey whined about people packaging signal for f-droidMar 08 23:08
MinceRtheir server side is nonfreeMar 08 23:08
MinceRobviously, they do not respect the users' freedomMar 08 23:08
MinceRand nonfree software can't be trusted to be secureMar 08 23:09
mjg59Like I said, it's perfectly reasonable to prioritise those things when making a choiceMar 08 23:09
mjg59But the security aspect of it can be verified to the same extent that any free software can be verifiedMar 08 23:09
MinceRbut if you try to fix it and share the fixes with your neighbor, that's supposed to be undesirable, according to themMar 08 23:10
MinceRwhat are they hiding?Mar 08 23:10
MinceRand you can't verify the server side at allMar 08 23:11
MinceRlet alone host your ownMar 08 23:11
mjg59In the hypothetical case that the Signal team are untrustworthy, and they backdoor the server code, why would they put the backdoor in the public code?Mar 08 23:12
mjg59How would you verify that their server is running what's published?Mar 08 23:12
MinceRi could host my own insteadMar 08 23:12
MinceRand what's preventing them from having more than one backdoor?Mar 08 23:13
mjg59Yeah, but then you wouldn't be able to communicate with anyone not using your instanceMar 08 23:13
vmg3or running a scraper Mar 08 23:13
MinceRor i could just run a service that is distributedMar 08 23:13
MinceRlike tox or ricochetMar 08 23:13
mjg59You could definitely do thatMar 08 23:13
mjg59But that's an argument in favour of decentralised services rather than against Signal itselfMar 08 23:14
mjg59But ok, we have a distributed serviceMar 08 23:14
mjg59You want to send a message to someoneMar 08 23:14
mjg59How do you determine that they're using a legitimate server that hasn't been backdoored?Mar 08 23:15
MinceRi probably can't, unless i'm running the serverMar 08 23:15
mjg59YeahMar 08 23:15
mjg59Which means if you want strong security guarantees, the distributed aspect of it doesn't helpMar 08 23:15
mjg59Because you need everyone you want to talk to to be using your serverMar 08 23:16
MinceRactually the distributed aspect is exactly what can helpMar 08 23:16
vmg3If the CISA can't tell?Mar 08 23:16
MinceRbecause if there's no centralized server, there's nothing to compromise other than the clientsMar 08 23:16
mjg59There's an alternative, which is to design the protocol so that the server has no access to the message contentsMar 08 23:17
MinceRin which case they can still screw with you by shutting down the serverMar 08 23:17
MinceRand then there you are, having wasted lots of resources on setting up and using a system you can not even useMar 08 23:17
mjg59True! That's still a reliability argument rather than a security argumentMar 08 23:18
MinceRor they can change the server code so it refuses to work with the client you had, and instead forces you to use a client that does let the server access the message contentsMar 08 23:18
MinceRwell, availability is still an aspect of securityMar 08 23:18
mjg59The client code is released under a free license and you can verify that the provided binary corresponds to itMar 08 23:19
MinceRthe new client code might not even be released under a free license, or with source codeMar 08 23:19
psydroid<vmg3 "you're feeding my parinoa "> we'd rather feed your koalaMar 08 23:19
MinceRwhat can you do? the server won't work with it and your contacts are waiting for you to "upgrade"Mar 08 23:19
vmg3lolMar 08 23:19
MinceRand your system might automatically do the "upgrade" for youMar 08 23:20
mjg59MinceR: You don't think people would object to Signal suddenly passing sensitive material to the server?Mar 08 23:20
MinceRdid people object to their earlier hostile behavior?Mar 08 23:22
mjg59Some people, yeah. But it didn't alter the amount of data going to the server, so there wasn't a huge amount.Mar 08 23:22
MinceRso signal users generally don't care about privacy or security or freedomMar 08 23:24
vmg3care and belief are differnt thingsMar 08 23:24
mjg59I'd say most don't care about freedom.Mar 08 23:25
mjg59But nothing Signal has done has changed the privacy or security model that previously existedMar 08 23:26
MinceRbecause it was already broken to begin withMar 08 23:26
mjg59From a security or privacy perspective? Not really.Mar 08 23:27
DaemonFC[m]You mean the famous "It's proprietary so you don't know what it does. Just trust us. It's secure." model?Mar 08 23:32
DaemonFC[m]mjg59 participated in something like this.Mar 08 23:32
DaemonFC[m]https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/Mar 08 23:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.worldometers.info | United States Coronavirus: 29,739,569 Cases and 538,534 Deaths - WorldometerMar 08 23:34
DaemonFC[m]This is the mildest day of COVID in the last 4 months. Lowest numbers for a Monday in over half a year.Mar 08 23:35
DaemonFC[m]It's the vaccines.Mar 08 23:35
mjg59DaemonFC[m]: No, all the code that you need to verify that it's secure is under a free licenseMar 08 23:36
DaemonFC[m]The implementation is proprietary and the user can't fix it even if it's seriously broken.Mar 08 23:36
mjg59That doesn't require you to trust the vendor to determine whether it's secureMar 08 23:37
vmg3slip on the golden handcuffs, everything changes.Mar 08 23:39
DaemonFC[m]It's nice that Walmart anticipated some people getting sick from the vaccine and chose not to hold it against them or make them go without pay.Mar 08 23:40
DaemonFC[m]My mom doesn't get that guarantee and she's a nurse.Mar 08 23:40
DaemonFC[m]The second dose is definitely more potent in Mandy's case. He didn't really react to the first one other than a sore arm.Mar 08 23:40
DaemonFC[m]But it seems manageable here at home over the next couple of days.Mar 08 23:41
MinceRcould just be the immune system being more aggressive this timeMar 08 23:41
MinceRiirc i read somewhere that this is normalMar 08 23:41
DaemonFC[m]I have to drive 3 hours back home after getting my next dose.Mar 08 23:41
DaemonFC[m]I had side effects the first time, it just wasn't terrible.Mar 08 23:42
DaemonFC[m]I'm going to get back here as fast as I can before it starts.Mar 08 23:42
DaemonFC[m]The majority of people seem to be fine the evening of their first dose and it's the next morning that there are symptoms.Mar 08 23:42
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: It's just good to know that between the federal government and Walmart, we're safe.Mar 08 23:45
MinceRlolMar 08 23:45
DaemonFC[m]You know, safe from COVID because we took precautions and got to the vaccine.Mar 08 23:45
DaemonFC[m]Safe from Mandy getting fired because Walmart is making an exception to their sick policy for vaccine side effects.Mar 08 23:45
DaemonFC[m]Safe from falling into financial harm because I've budgeted well and Walmart will pay him for the time off he needed (not digging into his PTO even!) and President Biden is signing the law that sends $2,800 to help shore up our finances too.Mar 08 23:46
DaemonFC[m]I doubt that Orban is managing things so well.Mar 08 23:46
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: The whole year has felt like one of those Aliens movies where it's moving around the air ducts looking for the next person to kill and lay eggs in.Mar 08 23:47
MinceRthe whole system is collapsing over hereMar 08 23:47
DaemonFC[m]Only, 42% of the public (Trump's base) don't believe it's in there.Mar 08 23:47
MinceRthere was some sort of plan to call people in for the AZ vaccine via SMS messages, but they sent them to the wrong people and sent the people to the wrong placesMar 08 23:49
MinceRso they called them backMar 08 23:50
MinceRit's a huge messMar 08 23:50
DaemonFC[m]LMAOMar 08 23:51
DaemonFC[m]Hey wrong people. Go stand in line in the wrong place for a vaccine that's not there. I'm sure none of you will get COVID from that. Love, Orban.Mar 08 23:51
MinceRit was there, it was just sometimes 160 km from where the person livedMar 08 23:52
DaemonFC[m]That doesn't sound worse than what we have to deal with.Mar 08 23:52
MinceRand they sometimes got an appointment so that they had no way of getting home from the vaccination place, especially before curfewMar 08 23:52
DaemonFC[m]24 total hours of driving to vaccinate two people.Mar 08 23:52
MinceRand they called in many people who already received their vaccine (both doses)Mar 08 23:53
DaemonFC[m]Who the hell is voting for these people?Mar 08 23:53
MinceRidiotsMar 08 23:53
MinceRthough the polite term is "conservatives"Mar 08 23:53
DaemonFC[m]This is worse than what would have happened even with a second term of Trump.Mar 08 23:53
DaemonFC[m]You realize that?Mar 08 23:53
MinceRwell, for that particular group of idiots, anywayMar 08 23:53
MinceRprobably, yeahMar 08 23:54
MinceRmaybe twitler could have done in his second term what orban did in 2010Mar 08 23:54
MinceRbut that's still 10 years behind of usMar 08 23:54
MinceRthere was also a phone number you were supposed to call if you knew of errors in their systemMar 08 23:55
MinceRthe gypsy king didn't know it, so he said the fake "doctor" will inform the people of itMar 08 23:55
MinceRbut the fake "doctor" didn't know it eitherMar 08 23:56
MinceRit took them several days to figure it out and inform the peopleMar 08 23:56
CrystalMathDaemonFC[m]: what if Alien was actually the good guy?Mar 08 23:56
CrystalMathi mean think about it, it's just a creature trying to surviveMar 08 23:57
CrystalMathit was Ripley that kinda set out to extinct itMar 08 23:57
CrystalMathgoddamn humans, always trying to drive other species to extinctionMar 08 23:58
MinceRyeahMar 08 23:58
CrystalMathi think there's nothing wrong with SarbecovirusMar 08 23:59
CrystalMathit evolved here... if you don't like it, find your own planetMar 08 23:59
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