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techrights-news[Meme] [Teaser] Put the Ballot in This Box... • TɘↄHᴙigHTꙅ ⚓ ䷉ #Techrights #latvia #riga #euipo #epo | ♾ Gemini address: gemini:// 10 00:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | [Meme] [Teaser] Put the Ballot in This Box… | TechrightsSep 10 00:13
techrights-news#mozilla 'gets' the web sooooo much that it's outsourcing the #firefox videos to #youtube (owned by the real masters of Mozilla). #www savvy? Not so much anymore...Sep 10 00:18
techrights-newsManjaro Cinnamon Switches Default Browser To Vivaldi testament to the state of #mozilla ... as some choose #ProprietarySoftware over itSep 10 00:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Forget Firefox, Vivaldi Steals Default Browser Spot In Popular Linux Distro | Tux MachinesSep 10 00:20
techrights-newsNot everything needs a GUI. Trying to put together a regex with a GUI is like choosing to paint a picture from the command line.Sep 10 00:24
MinceR:)Sep 10 00:25
techrights-newsCrazy. Evidence has shown vaccines help old people survive but hardly limit the spread of coronavirus. Now they try to impose these on KIDS just to sell more PATENT LICENCES in RICH COUNTRIES (while in poor countries elderly people get nothing)??? 10 00:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Covid News: L.A. School System Is Expected to Issue Student Vaccination Mandate - The New York TimesSep 10 00:26
techrights-newsDon't try to make SENSE of vaccination policies. Your mind might blow.Sep 10 00:27
techrights-newsIn the US they have begun VACCINATING ZOO ANIMALS INSIDE CAGES... while elderly people in poor countries receive no doses. #patent #patents #monopoly #ArtificiallyInflatedPricing #cartelSep 10 00:28
techrights-newsIn #pfizer "world's lab" (what the CEO called it) the deaths per capita are about the same as in the US this summer. In "world's lab" about 95% of adults are covered by the #patent licence and get 3 jabs; in US it's hardly 50%. #patents #HardFactsSep 10 00:30
techrights-newsWhat really counts most are excess deaths. IF your government releases data to that effect. 10 00:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/ » Blog Archive » The Number of Brits Who Died (and Still Die) Because of COVID-19 is a Lot Higher Than the Official FiguresSep 10 00:32
techrights-newsNobody in #china dies from COVID-19. All those excess deaths are the fault of "malicious CIA Hip-Hop culture" and "evil computer games that corrupt our youth"...Sep 10 00:33
techrights-news#EUIPO chief #AntónioCampinos (before he was parachuted into the top role of the #EPO ) meets his rigga’ in #Riga #latviaSep 10 00:34
techrights-newsThis is good news: "Judge Lucy Koh Tapped for Ninth Circuit Alongside Seven Other Biden Nominees to Federal Bench". Koh has been tough on #fakePatents 10 00:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Judge Koh, Famous for Her Apple/Samsung Rulings, Pours Cold Water on Haptic Technology Patents While China is Sought as Alternative Litigation Venue by Iancu-Connected Immersion | TechrightsSep 10 00:36
XRevan86Ariadne: – ouch. It doesn't look like cromerc stepped out of line here.Sep 10 00:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Ariadne Conill (@ariadneconill): "perhaps when somebody says “stop mansplaining to me” doubling down isn’t a great idea" | nitterSep 10 00:49
AriadnecoolSep 10 00:49
Ariadneyou're entitled to your opinionSep 10 00:49
Ariadnei'm entitled to mineSep 10 00:50
MinceRthat whole conversation looks like a train wreckSep 10 00:50
Ariadnepretty muchSep 10 00:50
XRevan86True, just a weird read. I usually expect you to be aligned.Sep 10 00:50
schestowitz-TR2explaining became a gendered thingSep 10 00:51
schestowitz-TR2I remember when I could argue with people without gender being a thingSep 10 00:51
schestowitz-TR2it stopped about a decaade agoSep 10 00:51
schestowitz-TR2look ay "shuttleworth explaining to girls"Sep 10 00:51
XRevan86So he misunderstood, said a stupid and then said that he was wrong.Sep 10 00:51
schestowitz-TR2sometimes we need to look past all this noiseSep 10 00:51
schestowitz-TR2and deal with the key issuesSep 10 00:51
XRevan86And then that suddenly escalated.Sep 10 00:52
schestowitz-TR2not the side 'issues'Sep 10 00:52
AriadneXRevan86: no, he "misunderstood", and then said i was using the wrong terminology.Sep 10 00:52
schestowitz-TR2mind you, I did not read the aboveSep 10 00:52
schestowitz-TR2Words like mansplaining are genderedSep 10 00:52
schestowitz-TR2where it's not neededSep 10 00:52
schestowitz-TR2it warps the argumentsSep 10 00:52
schestowitz-TR2into one where nott he argument matters but genderSep 10 00:53
schestowitz-TR2and not who is rightSep 10 00:53
schestowitz-TR2but what gender the two sides areSep 10 00:53
schestowitz-TR2and that sort of dilutes the whole debateSep 10 00:53
XRevan86Ariadne: He does? I don't fully understand the "You are actually compiling for a new architecture before bootstrapping…" line, I don't know what he meant by that.Sep 10 00:53
Ariadneyes, he does, that's what that statement impliesSep 10 00:53
MinceRit's gendered because the people who invented the word wanted to create conflict between people of different gendersSep 10 00:54
Ariadnebut the thing is, he could have, and should have, just minded his own fucking businessSep 10 00:54
schestowitz-TR2(side story: when I blasted Catalin Cimpanu for anti-Linux FUD someone insinuated I was sexist, not knowing Catalin was in fact malle)Sep 10 00:54
Ariadneif i don't know something about somethingSep 10 00:54
Ariadnei just don't comment on itSep 10 00:54
Ariadnehe did the opposite, commenting in some sort of authoritative toneSep 10 00:54
XRevan86Ariadne: Sometimes people don't know that they don't know.Sep 10 00:54
Ariadnethen he learned a valuable lessonSep 10 00:55
*schestowitz-TR2 checks the link aboveSep 10 00:55
schestowitz-TR2screenshots of textSep 10 00:55
XRevan86Ariadne: And he then clarified "just a simple case of different use of terminology" that implies that he has nothing against the other terminology use.Sep 10 00:56
Ariadneyeah after he got called on itSep 10 00:56
schestowitz-TR2so it started as a technical argumentSep 10 00:56
Ariadneno, it started as stupiditySep 10 00:56
schestowitz-TR2and someone that stopped being a technical argumentSep 10 00:57
schestowitz-TR2openrcSep 10 00:57
Ariadnei have actual shit to doSep 10 00:57
schestowitz-TR2I think openmrc is very lightSep 10 00:57
schestowitz-TR2is that the roy-maintained thing?Sep 10 00:57
schestowitz-TR2the one who died or is dying?Sep 10 00:57
XRevan86Ariadne: Sure, but people making honest mistakes is not really a reason to then call them names.Sep 10 00:58
schestowitz-TR2*openrcSep 10 00:58
schestowitzRoy Marples 10 00:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | OpenRC - WikipediaSep 10 00:58
schestowitz"Size~900 KB"Sep 10 00:58
schestowitzFor code or binaries?Sep 10 00:58
AriadneXRevan86: saying somebody is participating in a specific behavior is not calling them namesSep 10 00:58
Ariadneroy marples has not maintained openrc in yearsSep 10 00:59
Ariadnehe handed it over to gentooSep 10 00:59
Ariadneand that's when it all went to shitSep 10 00:59
*schestowitz back to preparing article about European corruptionSep 10 00:59
Ariadnebecause gentoo do not care about other distrosSep 10 00:59
Ariadnegentoo devs are pushing to adopt systemd anywaySep 10 01:00
XRevan86Ariadne: It kind of is, it implies that he is the kind of people that does this sort of thing.Sep 10 01:00
XRevan86Ariadne: And this kind of "mansplaining" I see all sorts of people do all day long, men, women, non-binary, to each other and in all sorts of combinations.Sep 10 01:02
Ariadnegood for youSep 10 01:02
schestowitz-TR2last week I responded to a former EPO directorSep 10 01:03
Ariadnemy opinion remains unswayedSep 10 01:03
Ariadnei have work to doSep 10 01:03
schestowitz-TR2he had been trying to belittle my criticismsSep 10 01:03
schestowitz 10 01:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Response to Daniel X. Thomas, Former Director at the European Patent Office (EPO) | TechrightsSep 10 01:03
schestowitztypical BS from himSep 10 01:03
schestowitzpainting himself as a victim and trying to bring his kids into itSep 10 01:03
schestowitztotally laughable tacticsSep 10 01:03
schestowitzhe still works for Battistelli as it turned outSep 10 01:04
schestowitz 10 01:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | [Meme] Daniel X. Thomas Still Works for Benoît Battistelli | TechrightsSep 10 01:04
XRevan86Ariadne: O.K., I can tell when discussion is unwanted.Sep 10 01:04
schestowitz-TR2in the EPO, truth tellers are being called NazisSep 10 01:05
schestowitz-TR2this is in MunichSep 10 01:05
schestowitz-TR2funny thing is, we discovered Battistelli himself has nazi connections through his parentsSep 10 01:05
techrights-news#mozilla : use #firefox instead of #google Chrome even though Google sponsors us (antitrust avoidance) and we outsourced this promotional Firefox video to GOOGLE ;-) 10 01:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Feel good when you get online with FirefoxSep 10 01:08
techrights-news"Yesterday, September 2, the U.S. state of Texas’ legislature passed a bill that aims to stop social media companies from “censoring conservative views.” This bill and others like it across the United States have been drafted in direct response to platforms’ removal of misinformation" 10 01:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Unconstitutional Texas social media bill attacks human rights - Access NowSep 10 01:08
techrights-news" #RcppSMC provides Rcpp-based bindings to R for the Sequential Monte Carlo Template Classes (SMCTC) by Adam Johansen described in his JSS article." 10 01:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Thinking inside the boxSep 10 01:10
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schestowitzBig fallout for youtube this weekSep 10 01:12
schestowitzafter banning nicholas from the linux experimentSep 10 01:12
schestowitzboy, have google folks scored an own goalSep 10 01:13
schestowitznothing good achieved, just more bitter "creators"Sep 10 01:13
XRevan86Ariadne: Anyway, just try to imagine a person that has no experience with distribution maintainership but which is an experienced GNU/Linux user, and that person sees your comment and then just thinks "wait, that can't be right" and then writes why that's not correct from their understanding.Sep 10 01:13
AriadneXRevan86: he is the maintainer of some archlinux derivative called ArtixSep 10 01:14
schestowitz-TR2I know artix :-)Sep 10 01:14
AriadneXRevan86: my conclusion is quite informed, thanksSep 10 01:14
XRevan86Ariadne: Do they bootstrap like Alpine or openSUSE?Sep 10 01:14
schestowitz-TR2but I suppose it's built by more art-oriented folks for their needsSep 10 01:14
AriadneXRevan86: who the fuck knows, he knows what the fuck i was talking about thoughSep 10 01:14
XRevan86after all, it's a derivative, they have different needsSep 10 01:14
Ariadnei'm not discussing this furtherSep 10 01:15
Ariadnei'm not the only one who, knowing the full context, agrees that he was interjecting in order to derail the conversationSep 10 01:15
schestowitzold: 10 01:16
schestowitz"Because I can't contribute to project I like because I don't want to create an account on a fucking #Microsoft #proprietary service. I already have an account on @codeberg and it is fine for me. And I think other people have the same problem."Sep 10 01:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Twann :artix: :lineageos2:: "Devs who are hosting their projects on #GitHub sh…" - FosstodonSep 10 01:16
Ariadneyou can defend him all you want, but do it do /dev/nullSep 10 01:16
XRevan86He's not my spouse.Sep 10 01:17
Ariadnehe did not take "fuck off" for an answer, so he got rippedSep 10 01:17
schestowitz 10 01:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Twann :artix: :lineageos2:: "My #ArtixLinux :artix: installation with #KDEPla…" - FosstodonSep 10 01:17
schestowitzArtix has quite a userbaseSep 10 01:18
schestowitzI think it took over from some failed distrosSep 10 01:18
schestowitzlike the fedora- and ubuntu-based onesSep 10 01:18
Ariadneno idea, don't really careSep 10 01:19
XRevan86Ariadne: That second message of his was intended to be final though, no? So looks like he did back off?Sep 10 01:19
DaemonFCThere's no telling why he got banned and if Google's not talking, they probably won't.Sep 10 01:20
schestowitzDaemonFC: yesSep 10 01:20
schestowitzexactlySep 10 01:20
schestowitzdid you see today's video from him?Sep 10 01:20
schestowitzhe still doesn't know why it happened, insists he didn't run afoul of rulesSep 10 01:20
schestowitzso Google can just bite without barkingSep 10 01:21
XRevan86Eh, I guess different people read this differently and come to different conclusions.Sep 10 01:21
schestowitzand unless you make a ton of noise with MILLLLLIONS (MEEEELIONS of watchers) of useds of youtube as witnesses, you're historySep 10 01:21
Ariadnethat second message of his was intended to defend his first messageSep 10 01:21
schestowitz 10 01:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Google/YouTube Bans GNU/Linux Channel "The Linux Experiment", Some More Videos Published | Tux MachinesSep 10 01:21
Ariadneand was refuted again with "fuck off"Sep 10 01:21
XRevan86Ariadne: "I thought", "You are actually" – that's an admission of personal misunderstanding.Sep 10 01:22
Ariadne"I thought", yesSep 10 01:23
schestowitz-TR2I doubt Google can recover from this >WITHIN the Linux channels and their "community"<Sep 10 01:23
schestowitz-TR2LBRY will take off even morpeSep 10 01:23
Ariadne"You are actually" - is a statement that i am not doing what i say i am doing, but something elseSep 10 01:23
Ariadneaka double downSep 10 01:23
XRevan86Ariadne: I gave the second part some thought, and it still reads as his trying to confirm that he understood you right.Sep 10 01:24
XRevan86and it looks like he still didn't, but it should've been just left at that, who even caresSep 10 01:24
*schestowitz-TR2 prefers phones for arguments (has intonation)Sep 10 01:24
Ariadnethe point is that if he doesn't know, then he should stay out of itSep 10 01:25
Ariadnei don't comment on artixSep 10 01:25
XRevan86Like "oh, actually, ye are not doing what I thought you did, ye are doing this thing how I understood your explanation"Sep 10 01:25
Ariadnefine, but then he triples downSep 10 01:25
techrights-news#gnu #linux users and developers need to quit #google #youtube .. IN DROVES Google is NOT your friend...Sep 10 01:26
Ariadneand a CoC threat, and plans to "adopt contributor covenant"Sep 10 01:26
Ariadnefucking lolSep 10 01:26
techrights-newsI've quit linking to #youtube and #twitter (directly) because these are both instruments of social manipulation by the rich and powerful interests, inc. cover-ups 10 01:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Reality is Warped When You Pay for ‘Perception Management’ (or: Bill Gates Pays Twitter for Propaganda) | TechrightsSep 10 01:27
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XRevan86Ariadne: On the screenshot the third message is a freak out, the rest I just don't know.Sep 10 01:27
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XRevan86 found the source, the fourth message is also not related to the original statement.Sep 10 01:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-removing old gnu make build system · Discussion #441 · OpenRC/openrc · GitHubSep 10 01:29
techrights-newsTHIS IS NOT THE ISSUE. The issue is 1) we don't know the potency of these products 2) they hardly prevent transmission 3) many ADULTS still reject them! Leave the kids out of it... at least until full clinical trials (5-10 years) 10 01:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Covid News: L.A. School System Is Expected to Issue Student Vaccination Mandate - The New York TimesSep 10 01:30
XRevan86Ariadne: I'm not pressuring or anything, just look at this with a fresh head later when ye have free time.Sep 10 01:30
techrights-newsColonialism by WIPO with misuse of the word "right" (like they used to say slave ownership was a "right") 10 01:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | ARIPO Member States adopt the Kampala Protocol on Voluntary Registration of Copyright and Related Rights - The IPKatSep 10 01:32
techrights-newsBy Western standards many of these are #fakepatents for faked 'growth' (only the #litigation firms stand to benefit) 10 01:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | China surge in business method patents continues, while Japan and South Korea also see growth | IAMSep 10 01:35
XRevan86And after reading the explanation I understand how ye read it and why ye came to these conclusions.Sep 10 01:35
techrights-news"patent generally relates to a call-to-action lockout on a mobile device" = #swpats = #fakepatents #uspto #ptabSep 10 01:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | $2,000 for Vitek IP prior art — Unified PatentsSep 10 01:36
schestowitz-TR2XRevan86: what distro are you on for desktop/laptop?Sep 10 01:37
XRevan86schestowitz: openSUSE Tumbleweed still.Sep 10 01:37
schestowitz-TR2kde?Sep 10 01:38
XRevan86schestowitz: MATESep 10 01:38
schestowitz-TR2"I'm NOT your mate" ;-)Sep 10 01:38
schestowitz-TR2"DUDE!!"Sep 10 01:39
XRevan86schestowitz: I don't get the reference %).Sep 10 01:40
MinceR 10 01:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-South Park - Canada on Strike - I'm not your buddy / guy / friend (snippets) - YouTubeSep 10 01:42
schestowitz-TR2XRevan86: here, in england, you'd stop someone and say "MATE"Sep 10 01:46
schestowitz-TR2similar but not the same as "DUDE!"Sep 10 01:46
AriadneXRevan86: i mean, it is kind of irrelevant anyway at this point, what went down went down.  he could have chosen to simply fuck off, when it became obvious that discussion was not wantedSep 10 01:47
MinceR"u wot m8"Sep 10 01:47
schestowitz-TR2exactlySep 10 01:47
schestowitz-TR2even with that accentSep 10 01:47
schestowitz-TR2"wwwwo?"Sep 10 01:48
schestowitz-TR2pronnounced like thisSep 10 01:48
schestowitz-TR2butter is "baha"Sep 10 01:48
MinceRnot ba'a?Sep 10 01:48
schestowitz-TR2mate is mayyytSep 10 01:48
schestowitz-TR2MinceR: yeahSep 10 01:49
schestowitz 10 01:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How to Pronounce Butter? (2 WAYS!) British Vs US/American English Pronunciation - YouTubeSep 10 01:50
schestowitzit's wrongSep 10 01:50
schestowitzin the north we leave out the tSep 10 01:51
AriadneXRevan86: i mean, the contents of my first message should have clearly come across as "fuck off"Sep 10 01:51
schestowitzsame for computerSep 10 01:51
AriadneXRevan86: should i have just outright said "fuck off"?Sep 10 01:51
activelowAriadne: cannot confirm openrc was in bad shape on gentooSep 10 01:51
schestowitzthere's compu-TER, south usuallySep 10 01:51
schestowitzthen there is comp-yu-ah!Sep 10 01:52
XRevan86Ariadne: His second message was an acknowledgement, not a double down. Ye misread the second part because it's written badly.Sep 10 01:52
AriadneXRevan86: his second message shouldn't have existed, he should have fucked offSep 10 01:52
Ariadnethe best acknowledgement is disappearingSep 10 01:52
XRevan86People like to show that they understood.Sep 10 01:52
MinceRコンピューターSep 10 01:52
schestowitzwhat are those chars?Sep 10 01:53
MinceRkatakana for "konpyuutaa"Sep 10 01:53
Ariadnecomputer in japaneseSep 10 01:53
AriadneoSep 10 01:53
Ariadnethough you don't nee the final glyphSep 10 01:54
Ariadneコンピュータ is adequateSep 10 01:54
schestowitzit did not look kanji Sep 10 01:54
schestowitznippon in general is an enigma to meSep 10 01:55
MinceRit isn't kanji, it's katakana :>Sep 10 01:55
schestowitz"I peak emoji"Sep 10 01:55
schestowitz*speakSep 10 01:55
AriadneXRevan86: i will discuss the matter with him on irc, or via emailSep 10 01:56
*schestowitz finished the draft for the 6am blockbuster articleSep 10 01:56
Ariadnehowever, his website says;Sep 10 01:57
AriadneMy name is Chris Cromer. I am an American from Pensacola, FloridaSep 10 01:57
Ariadneso, he should be fluent in englishSep 10 01:57
Ariadneon the other hand, he is from floridaSep 10 01:57
schestowitzspanishSep 10 01:57
Ariadnei have heard the floridian public education system is ... not the bestSep 10 01:57
schestowitzhardly the worstSep 10 01:57
Ariadneof course, i conclude that based on headlines likeSep 10 01:58
schestowitzFL is in general a relatively OK stateSep 10 01:58
Ariadne"Florida man does [something entirely dangerous and idiotic]"Sep 10 01:58
schestowitzI have lots of relatives thereSep 10 01:58
schestowitzthere are far worse statesSep 10 01:58
schestowitzeven adjacent to FLSep 10 01:58
Ariadneyes, could be AlabamaSep 10 01:58
MinceRflorida-man, florida-man. does whatever a florida can.Sep 10 01:58
XRevan86Ariadne: The best course of action would be to back down, admit personal mistakes and move on, in my opinion.Sep 10 01:59
schestowitzFL attracted some decent people from the north, usually well-off retireesSep 10 01:59
*schestowitz saves fighting energy for patent boostersSep 10 01:59
XRevan86Everyone should be honest about what they did wrong, to ourselves and to others.Sep 10 02:00
Ariadnedoes not matter, vapier decided to go nuclear either waySep 10 02:00
XRevan86Ariadne: I guess I'm too late with all that then.Sep 10 02:01
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techrights-newsEPO did something illegal (as usual), then rigged the courts, and after 'legalising' this offence by abusing courts it kindly asks for our view on it? see 10 02:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | The EPO Conducts A Survey On Users' Experience With ViCo Proceedings In Opposition - Intellectual Property - DenmarkSep 10 02:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | G 1/21 is a Catastrophe for the EPO’s Legitimacy | TechrightsSep 10 02:01
techrights-news#euipo and #epo pandering to identity #politics distracts from the abuses: 10 02:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | EPO - EPO and ARIPO launch major training programmeSep 10 02:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Ethiopian Media Gamed by EPO Management, Just Like European Media | TechrightsSep 10 02:03
techrights-news"it's OK, daddy works for #euipo so I am above the law..." 10 02:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Immunity of the Intellectual Property Office of the European Union Causes Outrage in Spanish Media | TechrightsSep 10 02:04
techrights-newsIt should not be permissible to sell #patents AT ALL. 10 02:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Assignor Estoppel: When Can A Party Challenge A Patent They Sold? - Intellectual Property - United StatesSep 10 02:05
XRevan86schestowitz: "here, in england, you'd stop someone and say "MATE"" – I am aware, was that just referring to that?Sep 10 02:05
XRevan86It do be like that, innit?Sep 10 02:05
techrights-news#patent bubbles need to burst far faster than this: "Domestic applicants filed 10% fewer Australian standard applications than in 2019." 10 02:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Did the Pandemic Affect 2020 Australian PCT Filings? ~ patentologySep 10 02:07
schestowitzXRevan86: innit is a bad urban/racialSep 10 02:08
schestowitz"native" Brits don't seem to use that word much anymoreSep 10 02:08
schestowitz"wicked" was very popular 20 years agoSep 10 02:08
schestowitzbut again, only in some contextsSep 10 02:08
AriadneXRevan86: please do understand that every time alpine has ever tried to cooperate with openrc, it has been a total disasterSep 10 02:09
schestowitzwow, FreeBSD, NetBSD, TrueOS listed among users of itSep 10 02:10
XRevan86schestowitz: Isn't it part of Cockney and MLE? Oh, I guess that's what "urban" means.Sep 10 02:10
schestowitzI am guessing they chose shithub for wrong reasonseSep 10 02:10
schestowitzeven before MicrosoftSep 10 02:11
schestowitzwritten in c and shellSep 10 02:11
schestowitzXRevan86: It's an almost politically-correct termSep 10 02:11
schestowitzalthough that too has been marked as "bad" wordSep 10 02:11
schestowitzsoon we'll run our of all bad wordsSep 10 02:11
schestowitzand they we'll call people "aliens" or worseSep 10 02:12
XRevan86Ariadne: Well, that can explain why they've been so unforgiving, but that they upheld the code of conduct correctly.Sep 10 02:12
XRevan86s/that //Sep 10 02:12
Ariadneno, they did not hold up anything correctlySep 10 02:13
schestowitzcan't believe I cannot check the code without accessing a Microsoft 'site'Sep 10 02:13
schestowitz(program)Sep 10 02:13
schestowitzwhich is a travestySep 10 02:13
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AriadneOpenRC does not have a code of conduct, vapier was trying to assert something existed which does not.Sep 10 02:13
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schestowitzthey link to Microsoft / facepalmSep 10 02:13
AriadneI know this because despite vapier's insistence, the maintainer of OpenRC has explicitly stated that OpenRC *is not a gentoo project*Sep 10 02:13
XRevan86Correction: they upheld the Gentoo CoC correctly, whether that's applicable or not.Sep 10 02:13
schestowitzno local copy of the repoSep 10 02:14
XRevan86Ariadne: But that would imply that ye do not agree with the Gentoo CoC in general if ye're willing to go against the things written in it.Sep 10 02:14
Ariadnethe Gentoo CoC also says that if you don't know what the fuck you are talking about, you should say nothingSep 10 02:15
Ariadneit explicitly says thatSep 10 02:15
XRevan86> Admit the possibility of fault and respect different point of views. Noone is perfect – you will get things wrong occasionally. Don't be afraid to admit this. Similarly, while something may seem perfectly obvious to you, others may see it differently.Sep 10 02:15
schestowitzwhat does it say about language?Sep 10 02:15
Ariadnewe can rules lawyer all nightSep 10 02:16
XRevan86"Don't be afraid to admit this." – cromerc did that and got the whip.Sep 10 02:16
XRevan86> Unacceptable behaviour: Being judgmental, …Sep 10 02:17
techrights-newsTIL #openRC is outsourced to #microsoft and #gentoo , its steward, is happy to link to Microsoft #ProprietarySoftware programs ('sites') instead of maintaining local copies (that it controls) of C code. No lessons learned from the GitHub/Microsoft breach?Sep 10 02:17
Ariadnehaha i love itSep 10 02:17
Ariadnethanks schestowitzSep 10 02:17
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XRevan86Ariadne: I'm not trying to lawyer it, just showing that by going this road ye will challenge way too much.Sep 10 02:18
XRevan86all the code of conducts in the worldSep 10 02:19
schestowitz-TR2codes of conductSep 10 02:19
schestowitz-TR2my palm PDA has a code of conduitSep 10 02:19
schestowitz-TR2but it is proprietarySep 10 02:19
XRevan86Did I really write "code of conducts"? Heh.Sep 10 02:19
schestowitz-TR2sold to hp, then lgSep 10 02:20
schestowitz-TR2conduit for palm OS has not worked in debian for agesSep 10 02:20
schestowitz-TR2not even over usbSep 10 02:20
Ariadnevapier, however, can fuck offSep 10 02:20
AriadnepermanentlySep 10 02:20
Ariadneinto the sunSep 10 02:20
Ariadnebecause of vapier, i have been doxed multiple times, threatened, etcSep 10 02:20
Ariadneby rabid gentoo usersSep 10 02:21
Ariadnegentoo has a CoC huh, well it does not cover their shitty usersSep 10 02:21
Ariadnegentoo adopting your software is a cautionary taleSep 10 02:21
schestowitz-TR2they do have some reputationSep 10 02:22
schestowitz-TR2ricers are more passionateSep 10 02:23
schestowitz-TR2compiling systems like some mine crypto 'coins'Sep 10 02:23
schestowitz-TR2though it does give extra flexibilitySep 10 02:23
schestowitz-TR2I used to want to change kate behaviourSep 10 02:23
schestowitz-TR2but that would require recompiling kate if not some of the things it depends on like kpart and kwin at some other levelSep 10 02:24
MinceR10 031903 < XRevan86> all the code of conducts in the worldSep 10 02:24
schestowitz-TR2kate loves hiding the cursor when it does not moveSep 10 02:24
MinceRall the CoCs in the world are cancerSep 10 02:24
XRevan86MinceR: Exactly like that, yes.Sep 10 02:24
schestowitz-TR2MinceR: what about blank ones?Sep 10 02:24
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MinceRwhy would anyone need blank ones?Sep 10 02:25
schestowitz-TR2MinceR: run /motd in this networkSep 10 02:25
schestowitz-TR2MinceR: when askedSep 10 02:25
schestowitz-TR2"do you have CoC?"Sep 10 02:25
schestowitz-TR2"Yes, I do"Sep 10 02:25
schestowitz-TR2hereSep 10 02:25
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MinceRit's better to not have anySep 10 02:25
MinceRand our motd says we don't have one :>Sep 10 02:26
schestowitz-TR2it'll always be misused by the enforcersSep 10 02:26
schestowitz-TR2who will apply to others rules they're exempted fromSep 10 02:26
schestowitz-TR2human nature... same as politics and courtsSep 10 02:26
XRevan86Ariadne: This particular case wasn't particularly about him though (no idea who that is).Sep 10 02:26
Ariadneit is when he is throwing around threatsSep 10 02:27
kingoffrance^   yeah, i interpreted it as "if you will just bow down, all the code of conducts in the world will be yours" lol      my coc is not of this world lolSep 10 02:27
schestowitz-TR2MinceR: "but it's void and blank"Sep 10 02:27
schestowitz-TR2"oh, why yes it is..."Sep 10 02:27
kingoffrance^ was to "human nature" ...Sep 10 02:27
schestowitz-TR2one can use intitution and common sense, like no death threats toleratedSep 10 02:27
XRevan86Ariadne: I don't see them in that thread.Sep 10 02:28
schestowitz-TR2some societies do tolerate death threats and respect themSep 10 02:28
Ariadnevapier is literallySep 10 02:28
Ariadnein itSep 10 02:28
schestowitz-TR2but I hardly respect those societies... stone agesSep 10 02:28
Ariadnehe is captain CoCSep 10 02:28
XRevan86Ariadne: All he says is pretty much "behave".Sep 10 02:29
Ariadneno, he is additionally passive aggressive in his other responseSep 10 02:29
Ariadneits fineSep 10 02:29
XRevan86Not that threatening.Sep 10 02:30
Ariadneno, he is just being a dickSep 10 02:30
Ariadneas usualSep 10 02:30
AriadneanywaySep 10 02:30
Ariadneits fineSep 10 02:30
AriadnewhateverSep 10 02:30
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XRevan86Ariadne: On a similiar note, has the future of udev been decided in Alpine?Sep 10 02:31
Ariadnelibudev-zeroSep 10 02:31
XRevan86Ariadne: Oh… but isn't it too basic for something as general purpose-ish as Alpine?Sep 10 02:32
Ariadnethankfully, some people had seen this eudev deprecation comingSep 10 02:33
Ariadneand so were working with the libudev-zero author to enhance its performanceSep 10 02:33
activelowAriadne: i did it slightly different, USE=-udev, and install eudev nonethelessSep 10 02:33
techrights-newsHow "to ditch X11/gtk/qt support entirely" 10 02:34
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XRevan86activelow: That's not helpful.Sep 10 02:34
activelowwith this the comfort of dynamic device nodes and automountign remaind, but all udev api gone in any library/programSep 10 02:34
XRevan86activelow: Thing is, eudev will likely be gone altogether. And for a distribution that doesn't want to be stuck in the past that's going to become a problem.Sep 10 02:35
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activelowXRevan86: had been thinking about this several times, considered mdev, but didn't want to loose the dynamic device nodesSep 10 02:36
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activelowXRevan86: eudev is a modern device node managerSep 10 02:36
XRevan86activelow: And it's orphaned.Sep 10 02:37
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activelowboth openrc and eudev seem in acceptable shape, on gentooSep 10 02:38
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MinceRbut not for longSep 10 02:38
MinceR:>Sep 10 02:38
XRevan86Ariadne: Is mdevd considered or smdev or something else entirely?Sep 10 02:38
Ariadnewell, gee, the mdevd author is an alpine developer who is also tasked with solving our openrc problem.Sep 10 02:39
Ariadnewhat do you think? :PSep 10 02:39
XRevan86Ariadne: Ah :DSep 10 02:39
activelowhad no problem with dropping openrc entirely, and write an autoexec.bat style init system without any fancy features at all; DOS survived in the enterprise realm with it, and so will iSep 10 02:39
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Ariadneactivelow: eudev is literally deadSep 10 02:39
Ariadneactivelow: the maintainer of eudev asked if alpine wanted to take it over, but we were already planning to move to libudev-zero and mdevd.Sep 10 02:40
XRevan86activelow: Ye'd literally be better off with runit.Sep 10 02:40
Ariadneits strangeSep 10 02:40
Ariadnesome collaborations between alpine and gentoo go very wellSep 10 02:40
Ariadneother collaborations like openrc have always been a total shitshowSep 10 02:40
activelowAriadne: i had zero issues with it yet, but i am using relatively "old" hardware why may not have required any database update for device node creationSep 10 02:40
activelow*whichSep 10 02:41
XRevan86I guess Devuan will just go with udev.Sep 10 02:41
Ariadnewith openrc, i think in retrospect, it was because alpine was a small, and young, distribution at the time we started collaboratingSep 10 02:41
XRevan86but they'll probably not like that at all, so who knows…Sep 10 02:41
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Ariadneand so in that space, alpine is treated like a distro with a small userbase stillSep 10 02:41
Ariadneeven though thats not the case todaySep 10 02:41
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Ariadnethough i doubt collaboration will be pleasant reallySep 10 02:42
Ariadnei mean, it is already known that alpine is discontinuing its use of openrc in 2025Sep 10 02:42
Ariadnethis has been known for quite a whileSep 10 02:43
activelowbtw. if this escalates, i am regularly tagging all gentoo repos, and had no problem with refraining from any further update in the next 10 yearsSep 10 02:43
Ariadnebut gentoo devs want systemd anyway, like mgorny etcSep 10 02:43
Ariadnei fear bringing real udev into alpine, because some will want to switch to systemd itselfSep 10 02:44
activelowcurrently i am preparing to drop X11/gtk/qt, i will keep the profile settings to compile this, but rarely will anymore and try to live without itSep 10 02:45
schestowitzwhy is gtk bad?Sep 10 02:45
schestowitzaside from ibm?Sep 10 02:45
MinceRthey betrayed gimpSep 10 02:45
MinceRthey have half a window manager in there because waylandSep 10 02:45
schestowitzgimp is where gtk comes fromSep 10 02:45
MinceRthey're controlled by gnomeSep 10 02:45
activelowi mean, currently i have both, X11/gui and a profile without it, it is too much maintenance effort without relevant benefit for meSep 10 02:46
MinceRyes, and gtk tossed out widgets gimp usedSep 10 02:46
schestowitzgnome is controlled by ibmSep 10 02:46
schestowitzmostlySep 10 02:46
schestowitzibm barely cares about itSep 10 02:46
MinceRbecause copying crApple's macOS "app"s is more important than supporting gimpSep 10 02:46
schestowitzit probably views community as a "burden" nowSep 10 02:46
activelowgimp is one of those programs, rarely use it, but no replacement exists for noX11 (little surprising)Sep 10 02:46
AriadneXRevan86: anyway, i had already concluded that my responses were too harshSep 10 02:46
AriadneXRevan86: but i had things to do and did not have time until now to formulate a responseSep 10 02:47
schestowitzactivelow: I've used gimp a lot for 20 yearsSep 10 02:47
schestowitzkrita is apparently good alsoSep 10 02:47
schestowitzI am not familiar with the krita gui thoughSep 10 02:48
schestowitzalso, qt :-)Sep 10 02:48
schestowitzproprietary-wards...Sep 10 02:48
activelowhad some issue with krita iirc, not sure what it was, it hit some of my blacklist entries (dbus probably)Sep 10 02:48
schestowitzkde uses it a lotSep 10 02:48
activelowqt4/5 are available, kde* is mostly goneSep 10 02:49
activelowwith dbus blacklistedSep 10 02:49
schestowitzat the moment I have 4 dbus-daemons runningSep 10 02:49
XRevan86Ariadne: I can see how that can lead to giving systemd a more solid footing. But it all boils down to whether mdevd/libudev-zero is up to the task.Sep 10 02:49
Ariadneskarnet and mps are both convinced it isSep 10 02:49
schestowitzplus dbus-launch and xdg-dbus-proxySep 10 02:49
activelowi haven't only removed dbus, with gentoo the interfaces are gone with USE=-dbus (among other exclusions and masks)Sep 10 02:50
XRevan86Ariadne: "anyway, i had already concluded that my responses were too harsh" – should've told me this sooner :)Sep 10 02:50
kingoffrancere: x11  old, unmaintained, probably missing many things, but it was enough for me on a headless system just to display elsewhere using ssh.   there were some slimmed down X libraries and servers, but seemed "marketed" for "embedded" things and probably not maintained etc.Sep 10 02:50
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schestowitzone dbus-daemons runs as a child process of systemdSep 10 02:50
activelowthat's the reason, i'll not depart from gentoo, becauese it provides me tools and a tree to do things noone else doesSep 10 02:51
AriadneXRevan86: i publicly apologized for my harshness, and wrote a longer explanation by mail to chris directly.Sep 10 02:51
AriadneXRevan86: for what it's worth, WilliamH has tried to reset the working relationship with alpineSep 10 02:51
Ariadnethe problem is,Sep 10 02:51
AriadneOpenRC is either a gentoo project, or it is not.Sep 10 02:52
Ariadnegentoo believes it is, WilliamH says it is not.Sep 10 02:52
XRevan86Ariadne: "of being somewhat annoyed" – the word "somewhat" is not really necessary.Sep 10 02:53
XRevan86In everything else, that's a good post.Sep 10 02:53
Ariadneanyway, trying to get anything done in OpenRC has always been a battleSep 10 02:53
Ariadneso, Alpine gave up, and we have over a dozen patches and replace half the initscripts with our own versionsSep 10 02:53
Ariadneit didn't have to be that way, and we tried to make it not that way, but at some point, you have to move on.Sep 10 02:54
Ariadnewhich is why the future is s6 and not openrcSep 10 02:54
activelowdon't understand your decision with openrc, since what is maintained with gentoo seems stableSep 10 02:54
Ariadnealpine is not gentooSep 10 02:55
Ariadnewhat gentoo does with openrc is appropriate for gentooSep 10 02:55
Ariadnealpine, by comparison, uses an entirely different networking management systemSep 10 02:55
XRevan86ifupdown?Sep 10 02:55
AriadneyeahSep 10 02:55
Ariadnewe also use different userspace components that are not supported by GentooSep 10 02:56
activelowok, i am not using any networking management at all, scripting this manuallySep 10 02:56
Ariadnefor example, in alpine, you can choose between busybox, GNU coreutils, 9base, sbase/ubaseSep 10 02:56
Ariadneand we use a posixly-correct /bin/sh instead of bashSep 10 02:56
XRevan86Ariadne: Was ifupdown2 considered? Or is it too overengineered or too different?Sep 10 02:56
Ariadneifupdown2 is python wtfSep 10 02:57
XRevan86too overengineered, got itSep 10 02:57
Ariadnewe considered ifupdown2 and wrote ifupdown-ngSep 10 02:57
Ariadnewhich is basically ifupdown2 done rightSep 10 02:57
Ariadneactivelow: we also want to use supervise-daemon(8) for everythingSep 10 02:57
Ariadnesupervise-daemon existed in alpine for much longer than it did in openrc properSep 10 02:58
activelowgranted, i can live without suchSep 10 02:58
Ariadneanyway longtermSep 10 02:59
Ariadnei think openrc is probably not the future anywhereSep 10 02:59
Ariadnea lot of gentoo devs want systemdSep 10 02:59
Ariadnelike mgornySep 10 02:59
MinceRwhy don't they install fedora?Sep 10 02:59
MinceRor rHELL, evenSep 10 02:59
Ariadneits not the future in alpine, because we decided to build our ownSep 10 02:59
XRevan86Ariadne: Is there something to read to get a basic understanding of what s6 is about?Sep 10 03:00
activelowjust saying, i hacked and slayed down some gentoo magic for sake of simplicity, such as their genkernel init scripting was a headache for meSep 10 03:00
activelowanywaySep 10 03:00
XRevan86I keep hearing about it, and I don't actually know what that is.Sep 10 03:00
AriadneXRevan86: 10 03:00
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AriadneXRevan86: this is what we were pitching sponsors with for grant funding for itSep 10 03:00
XRevan86Ariadne: thanksSep 10 03:01
Ariadnebasically, a key philosophy in alpine is that components *will* crash, and that the system should recover gracefully from failuresSep 10 03:04
AriadneOpenRC has only very basic support for thisSep 10 03:04
XRevan86Ariadne: Oh, absolutely. Certain MinceR's will say that that's a non-issue :PSep 10 03:05
Ariadnei don't think he willSep 10 03:05
MinceRno, certain MinceRs will say that if your daemon keeps crashing, it's broken and should be fixed :>Sep 10 03:05
Ariadne^Sep 10 03:05
Ariadnethe daemon should be fixed, but the system should also recover from failureSep 10 03:05
XRevan86MinceR: OOMKiller is a thing.Sep 10 03:05
Ariadneboth are desirableSep 10 03:05
MinceRin fact, i'm starting to wonder why systemd doesn't just reboot if a daemon dies unexpectedlySep 10 03:06
XRevan86Sometimes daemons will die even when written properly.Sep 10 03:06
MinceRit would fit much better with their whole windows worship thingSep 10 03:06
MinceRXRevan86: what do you mean? if oomkiller decides to kill your daemon, the appropriate response is to just automatically start it again and hope the oomkiller picks a better target next time? :>Sep 10 03:07
XRevan86MinceR: Who's going to start it again?Sep 10 03:07
MinceRthe sysadmin, for exampleSep 10 03:07
XRevan86Sysadmin's tender hands?Sep 10 03:07
MinceRafter figuring out what went wrong and actually fixing itSep 10 03:07
XRevan86Figures.Sep 10 03:07
MinceRbut yeah, if you want automatic restarts, go for itSep 10 03:07
MinceRit should probably be a conscious decision thoughSep 10 03:08
Ariadnegiving up on restarts should happen after a whileSep 10 03:08
XRevan86MinceR: And they should know that it crashed by looking at top with an eagle eye?Sep 10 03:08
Ariadneanyway there's multiple layers in playSep 10 03:08
Ariadnesupervision is one partSep 10 03:08
activelowif I was forced to drop openrc, then it'll be some crude autoexec.bat style scripting only, and pkill to manage servicesSep 10 03:09
MinceRXRevan86: well, it would be nice if the service manager logged the crashSep 10 03:09
XRevan86MinceR: Well, naturally. I just remember that we had this conversation before.Sep 10 03:09
MinceRand now i remember something about automatic restarts possibly exacerbating security issuesSep 10 03:10
Ariadnethere is also more to process supervision than automatic restarts :pSep 10 03:10
MinceR:>Sep 10 03:11
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XRevan86Even making a process shut down is a lot easier with supervision.Sep 10 03:11
Ariadnei have a project that is rewriting docker in C, incidentallySep 10 03:13
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XRevan86Ariadne: Related to security issues? :)Sep 10 03:14
Ariadnerelated to lightweightnessSep 10 03:14
kingoffrancegenerically, it probably veers towards process checkpointing, and then even migrating across machines (or, not even that, just a service might want x instances across y machines etc., whether they share "state" or not).  so the vm stuff does all that nowadays, at a higher level perhaps i.e. migrate whole virtual machine.      anyhow, even if not desired that level of granularity, nor the higher level, there are parallels across multiple machines Sep 10 03:15
kingoffranceas wellSep 10 03:15
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kingoffrancere: "there is re to process supervision than automatic restarts"Sep 10 03:16
kingoffrance*moreSep 10 03:16
XRevan86Ariadne: So much interesting stuff…Sep 10 03:16
kingoffrance*migrate whole vm to another physical hostSep 10 03:16
activelowcgroups/namespaces etc. and docker never convinced me; kvm virtual machines tend to be not administered sufficiently oftenSep 10 03:17
kingoffranceeh, i dont know any modern stuff, or old even, just cluster stuff always interested me, but i think modern world chose not that level of granularitySep 10 03:17
activelowadmitted, i am not a hosting providerSep 10 03:17
kingoffrancefor same reason across multiple machines: one machine crashing should not take down everythingSep 10 03:18
kingoffranceits the same thing just at a broader levelSep 10 03:18
kingoffrancereplace "service" with "machine"Sep 10 03:18
activelowif "user mode linux" had been maintained sufficiently, i probably had used it more often, even patched kernel recently to fix some bug with itSep 10 03:22
activelowanywaySep 10 03:23
kingoffranceyeah, im not sure if bsd jails are used much now with virtual machines so commonSep 10 03:23
kingoffranceand with hw acceleration nowSep 10 03:23
kingoffrances/hw acceleration/cpu support/Sep 10 03:24
activelowtried that too, even implemented some configuration and script-frontend for qemu/kvm with bash (since the gui stuff and libvirt etc. were too bloated and crappy)Sep 10 03:24
activelowprobably some of the best management scripts for that, but didn't bother anymoreSep 10 03:25
activelowand, i don't trust hardware supervisorsSep 10 03:26
activelowidea is, which is implemented and tested, to create configured and bootable iso.images+data.img with gentoo tooling, and launch this with scripts, as a "user mode linux" or kvm qemu machine, uml is buggy; instead of docker or libvirt magic and whatever docker requiresSep 10 03:29
activelowgiven i had written this in a few days, alone, this can compete with docker inc, lolSep 10 03:30
activelowmaybe i'll ask EPO to patent bash scriptsSep 10 03:30
activelowanyway, time to sleepSep 10 03:30
kingoffrancetake previous comment back, i also needed xauth from xorg, for ssh x forwarding, but it worked with that tinyxlibSep 10 03:41
kingoffranceno ipv6, but i didnt careSep 10 03:42
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techrights-news#Techrights Bulletin for Thursday, September 09, 2021 full archive: #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintextSep 10 05:23
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techrights-news#Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now available as plain text @ #dweb #sharingSep 10 05:24
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techrights-newsFinalising next article aboyt #latvia , ETA 6AM/30 mins. #epo #corruption #techrightsSep 10 05:27
techrights-news"Virologist David LV Bauer recognizes that vaccination is crucial protection against Covid-19. He explains how anti-vaxxers took a statement out of context and used it to misrepresent him as an anti-vaxxer." 10 05:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | 2021: July - October Political Notes - Richard StallmanSep 10 05:31
techrights-news#California bill seeks to halt prison-to-ICE deportation pipeline 10 05:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-California bill seeks to halt prison-to-ICE deportation pipeline | ReutersSep 10 05:32
techrights-newsManjaro Cinnamon changes to Firefox from Vivaldi as default web 10 05:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Forget Firefox, Vivaldi Steals Default Browser Spot In Popular Linux Distro | Tux MachinesSep 10 05:44
techrights-newsBest Linux Text Editors: The 20 Text and HTML Editors Reviewed • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesSep 10 05:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Best Linux Text Editors: The 20 Text and HTML Editors Reviewed | Tux MachinesSep 10 05:45
techrights-newsTop 15+ Fast and Secure Remote Desktop Clients for Linux • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesSep 10 05:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Top 15+ Fast and Secure Remote Desktop Clients for Linux | Tux MachinesSep 10 05:45
techrights-news#Privacy -Screen DRM API With Intel Support Ready Now That GNOME Is Prepared To Use It • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesSep 10 05:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Privacy-Screen DRM API With Intel Support Ready Now That GNOME Is Prepared To Use It | Tux MachinesSep 10 05:50
techrights-news#WindowsDefender = #microsoft #security THEATRE. If they wanted to really protect you, they'd delete WINDOWS ITSELF. Also #nsa back doors are considered OK, so don't tell us about security... 10 05:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Microsoft and the NSA - TechrightsSep 10 05:54
techrights-newsThis thing (nis)named #WindowsDefender is only trying to defend #microsoft from competitionSep 10 05:54
techrights-news#WindowsDefender says torrent is bad. Because you might download an operating system that is not #windows ... same when you try to get #qemu even from official sources. #microsoft #antitrust violation, but who would bother when they bribe and mislead authorities? 10 05:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Microsoft is a Lot Worse Than Google, Amazon, Facebook, and Apple | TechrightsSep 10 05:57
techrights-news#microsoft = organised crime, thinly disguised as a company that makes something (as opposed to buying companies that do, sometimes using moles like Elop) 10 05:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | EPO and Microsoft Collude to Break the Law — Part XII: Foreign Corrupt Practices, Bid Rigging and “Slush Funds” | TechrightsSep 10 05:58
techrights-newsToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesSep 10 06:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | today's howtos | Tux MachinesSep 10 06:04
techrights-newsEPO Exposé: The Besieged Baltic States – Part IXX – The #EUIPO Connection • TɘↄHᴙigHTꙅ ⚓ ䷉ #Techrights #Europe #EPO #Latvia | ♾ Gemini address: gemini:// 10 06:08
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techrights-news"I thought #IBM decide to close down all offices due to delta? You'd have to be nuts to even consider going back in the office." 10 06:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Are IBMers heading back to office today ? - post regarding IBM layoffsSep 10 06:15
techrights-news"Not the case with maximum ibmers as #ibm hasn't got that much money LOL " 10 06:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | If you don't leave in 2021, you never will! - post regarding IBM layoffsSep 10 06:16
techrights-news#Mikron MIK32 - Made in Russia 32-bit RISC-V MCU offers features similar to STM32L0 MCU - CNX Software ⚓ ䷉ #Linux #GNU #Hardware #cnxsoftwareSep 10 06:18
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techrights-news#ArcoLinux 21.09.11 is released. #gnu #linuxSep 10 06:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | ArcoLinux | ArcoLinuxSep 10 06:20
techrights-news"supports the Unity Operating System (UOS) and Kylin both of which are Linux distributions for the Chinese market" but those should be offered as PREINSTALLED (or option for it). DO NOT impose #microsoft #malware with #nsa back doors on people. 10 06:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Beelink LZX - A Zhaoxin KX-6640MA based x86 Mini PC you may never see - CNX SoftwareSep 10 06:22
techrights-newsThe Baltic ‘crusade’ of Tony, son of the “Carnation Revolution”, goes more than a decade back • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ ䷉ #Techrights #latvia #riga #euipo #epo | ♾ Gemini address: gemini:// 10 06:23
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techrights-news[Meme] The Coloniser Campinos, Preying on the Poor #epo #euipo #africa #latvia #patentsSep 10 07:09
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techrights-news● NEWS ● #EricWBailey #Programming ☞ What they don’t tell you when you translate your app 10 07:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | What they don’t tell you when you translate your app – Eric BaileySep 10 07:10
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techrights-news● NEWS ● #TheVerge #Surveillance #Privacy ☞ #Twitter takes on #Facebook Groups with invite-only Communities farming people and their secretsSep 10 07:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Twitter launches Communities, its Facebook Groups and Reddit rival - The VergeSep 10 07:12
techrights-news● NEWS ● #IndiaTimes #Surveillance #Privacy ☞ #Facebook developing machine learning chip: Report data-mining mindsSep 10 07:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Facebook developing machine learning chip: Report, IT News, ET CIOSep 10 07:15
techrights-news● NEWS ● #TheVerge #Surveillance #Privacy ☞ #Twitter is beginning to test labels for bot accounts farming peopleSep 10 07:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Twitter is beginning to test labels for bot accounts - The VergeSep 10 07:15
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techrights-news● NEWS ● #EuropeanCommission #Politics ☞ The impact of Open Source Software and Hardware on technological independence, competitiveness and innovation in the EU economy: Final Study Report 10 07:18
techrights-news● NEWS ● #TheHill #Misinformation ☞ Warren urges #Amazon to fix algorithm 'feeding misinformation loops' 10 07:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Warren urges Amazon to fix algorithm 'feeding misinformation loops' | TheHillSep 10 07:20
techrights-news● NEWS ● #RTL #Misinformation ☞ This image from an episode of The Simpsons has been digitally altered to add a reference to vaccines 10 07:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | RTL Today - Fact Check: This image from an episode of The Simpsons has been digitally altered to add a reference to vaccinesSep 10 07:20
techrights-news● NEWS ● #Bloomberg #Monopolies ☞ U.S. Antitrust Cops Unveil Data Backing #Facebook #Monopoly Case 10 07:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bloomberg - Are you a robot?Sep 10 07:26
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techrights-news#china impact on what we see and cannot see ... paywallSep 10 08:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Hollywood should stop self-censoring to appease China | Comment | The TimesSep 10 08:29
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techrights-newsCancel the #patents #patent #monopolies #hoarding #greedSep 10 08:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Health Advocates Say Biden's Global Covid-19 Summit Must Be 'More Than Just PR' | Common Dreams NewsSep 10 08:42
techrights-news#atlassian was bad enough already; now it'll be joined by #proprietarySoftware people from #clownflare too #cloudflare #surveillanceSep 10 08:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iTWire - Cloudflare co-founder joins Atlassian boardSep 10 08:46
techrights-news#programming with shell scripts I did some shell scripting for gemini as recently as yesterday; it is super-portable, unlike #programming 'frameworks'Sep 10 08:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | How To Use Shell Environment VariablesSep 10 08:48
techrights-news#techrights is on pace or en route to exceeding 500,000 page requests over gemini:// for this month aloneSep 10 08:50
techrights-news#yle at 95. it helped us with 10 08:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Yle celebrates 95 years of public service broadcasting | Yle Uutiset | yle.fiSep 10 08:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | EPO Exposé: The Besieged Baltic States – Part IV – Martti Enäjärvi and His “Good Brother” Networks | TechrightsSep 10 08:52
techrights-news#ibm and #patentTrolls for #swpats in #europe they claim to speak for "Open Source"...Sep 10 08:53
techrights-news#EPO President #AntónioCampinos is still doing in former Portuguese colonies what #BenoîtBattistelli used to do in former French #colonies (and beyond) • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ ䷉ #Techrights | ♾ Gemini address: gemini:// 10 08:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | [Meme] The Coloniser Campinos, Preying on the Poor | TechrightsSep 10 08:55
techrights-news𝓣𝓮𝓬𝓱𝓻𝓲𝓰𝓱𝓽𝓼 #IRC Proceedings: Thursday, September 09, 2021 • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini:// 10 08:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | IRC Proceedings: Thursday, September 09, 2021 | TechrightsSep 10 08:56
techrights-news#geminiSpace growing: "Currently, our database includes 371,501 URIs" gemini:// 160k requests in 9 days (Sept.) in #techrights : gemini:// 10 08:59
techrights-newsPeter Hansteen: Recent and not entirely recent changes in #OpenBSD that make life better 10 09:00
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techrights-news#OpenBSD : - What lured me into this #bsd #unixSep 10 09:01
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schestowitzx 10 09:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Unpatched Office attack reminds us: Don't click on risky docs | PCWorldSep 10 09:02
schestowitz# blaming the victim; it is sold for the purpose of "clicking on documents"Sep 10 09:02
techrights-newsThey also use this report to push #swpats in #europe hardly surprising given who's behind it: 10 09:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Danie van der Merwe ✅: "European Commission Report Declares Open Source S…" - MastodonSep 10 09:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | OpenForum Europe (IBM et al) and Linux Foundation Are Boosting and Cooperating With Enemies of Software Freedom | TechrightsSep 10 09:04
schestowitzx 10 09:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft warns of hackers exploiting Windows vulnerability | TheHillSep 10 09:05
schestowitz# shifting the blameSep 10 09:05
techrights-newsThe criminals of #Microsoft are once again shifting blame for their shoddy 'software', blaming either the users or the attackers... while putting back doors in their OWN software: 10 09:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Microsoft and the NSA - TechrightsSep 10 09:06 is notable or noteworthy, moreover, that #microsoft spreads #racism for profit 10 09:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Microsoft Weaponises (and Further Spreads) Racism to Distract From Its Own Incompetence (and ‘Five Eyes’ Collusion for Back Door Access) | TechrightsSep 10 09:07
techrights-news#microsoft #windows and other Microsoft stuff is not designed to be used by the computer owner by the software owner (Microsoft) and the #nsa et alSep 10 09:08
techrights-newsBlaming users for opening malicious documents overlooks the facts that documents aren't supposed to run programs. Not that today's #www is much better, even without #activeX ....Sep 10 09:09
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techrights-news● NEWS ● #CreativeCommons ☞ Meet the CC Summit Presenter: Juan Miguel Palma Peña nevertheless: 10 09:51
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gustafactivelow: this might interest you 10 10:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Counterfeit Capitalism: Why a Monopolized Economy Leads to Inflation and Shortages - by Matt Stoller - BIG by Matt StollerSep 10 10:02
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gustafchip manufacture is mentioned! Sep 10 10:06
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techrights-news● NEWS ● #EFF ☞ EFF Activists To Lead Protest Demanding #Apple Cancel iPhone Scanning Program and Keep Its #Privacy Promises To Customers 10 10:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | EFF Activists To Lead Protest Demanding Apple Cancel iPhone Scanning Program and Keep Its Privacy Promises To Customers | Electronic Frontier FoundationSep 10 10:09
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techrights-news#pfizer 10 10:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Lanna Rene' #FreeAssange (@Lanna70115): "I guess I am going to lose my job. The dental office I work at accepts Medicaid/Medicare. I can't get fully vaccinated because I had a severe reaction to Pfizer vaccine. I was hospitalized for 3 days. The cardiologist recommended me to not get second shot." | nitterSep 10 10:18
techrights-news● NEWS ● #EFF #Surveillance ☞ The Catalog of Carceral Surveillance: #Prison Gaming and AR/VR Services 10 10:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | The Catalog of Carceral Surveillance: Prison Gaming and AR/VR Services | Electronic Frontier FoundationSep 10 10:20
gustaflolSep 10 10:21
kingoffranceone thing interesting about " Why a Monopolized Economy Leads to Inflation and Shortages" is that efficiency is the initial reason (as it states) ...but then a monopoly creates bottlenecks on purpose.    so you dont even get the supposed "efficiency".     "efficient for who and what" maybe :)Sep 10 10:21
kingoffrance*initial justificationSep 10 10:22
gustafthat's why you need to temper the inherent drive towards efficiency with regulationSep 10 10:23
gustafunbridled capitalism leads to monopolies Sep 10 10:23
kingoffranceheraclitus "things become their opposites" maybe :)Sep 10 10:24
kingoffrance"efficiency" -> bottleneck is more profitableSep 10 10:24
techrights-news● NEWS ● #EFF ☞ Don’t Stop Now: Join EFF, Fight for the Future at Apple Protests Nationwide 10 10:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Don’t Stop Now: Join EFF, Fight for the Future at Apple Protests Nationwide | Electronic Frontier FoundationSep 10 10:25
gustafexactly ! Sep 10 10:33
gustafI've read that prohibition-era laws against big brewers sorta helped American craft beer later Sep 10 10:36
kingoffrance  there is a good note there too:   Capitalism works because companies that thrive take a bunch of inputs and create a product that is more valuable than the sum of its parts    [...]   What predatory pricing does is to enable competition purely based on access to capital.Sep 10 10:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | WeWork and Counterfeit Capitalism - by Matt Stoller - BIG by Matt StollerSep 10 10:44
kingoffranceits another example;   create something -> sell it -> reinvest profits wherever      gets transformed into "make money" "access to capital"Sep 10 10:44
gustafyepSep 10 10:44
gustafproductive work as oppose to rentiers Sep 10 10:45
activelownoted gustaf Sep 10 10:45
kingoffrancewell not even that, just "capital" was the means to make something, not supposed to be the goal in and of itself   ;   some actual goal, anything, beyond " i want money".     if everyone is a financier, nothing gets made either, it cant scaleSep 10 10:46
kingoffrancei mean even besides "productive" versus "rentiers" it has been inversedSep 10 10:47
kingoffrance*one of the means, i dont know exact termsSep 10 10:48
kingoffrancethat latter one calls it "money-losing business" so my take is overly simplistic maybeSep 10 10:50
kingoffranceif they have endless "access to capital" they can do that i guessSep 10 10:51
activelowresilient supply chains, long-term reliable manufacturing and education are *externalized* costs, and the risks not accounted for with globalized economySep 10 10:51
kingoffranceyep, like the first link noted, there is some divorce between reality that doesnt show up in the statsSep 10 10:52
techrights-news● NEWS ● #CommonDreams #Patents #monopolies #greed ☞ Opinion | Vaccine Mandates and #Patent Waivers for the Common Good 10 10:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Opinion | Vaccine Mandates and Patent Waivers for the Common Good | Joseph StiglitzSep 10 10:54
kingoffrancei suppose, it would seem  endless access to capital -> money-losing business ->  still seems they hope to long-term destroy a market, so is "efficiency" like cancer i guess, and long-term the investors hope to benefit.   in a way it is "long-term" at the cost of everyone elseSep 10 10:54
gustafyepSep 10 10:55
gustafactivelow: agreeSep 10 10:55
kingoffrancewords get twisted around depending whose eyes you look through :)Sep 10 10:55
gustafalso provocative 10 10:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | The rise of community-owned monopoliesSep 10 10:55
techrights-news● NEWS ● #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights ☞ Digital Death Penalty? Legal Battle over Piracy Disconnections Heats Up in Appeals Court 10 10:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Digital Death Penalty? Legal Battle over Piracy Disconnections Heats Up in Appeals Court * TorrentFreakSep 10 10:55
gustafkingoffrance: agree, a word like "capitalism" is meaninglessSep 10 10:55
kingoffrance^^^Sep 10 10:56
gustafit's gnerally meant to be free enterprice / independent judiciary / enforcement of contracts etc etcSep 10 10:56
gustafbut it's simply boiled down to "getting rich"Sep 10 10:56
activelowi remember when, with a financial crisis, small business wasn't competitive anymore, and banks denied granting credit even when profits were made, since these were below capital market growthSep 10 11:00
kingoffrancejohn moody, the masters of capital, 1921 opening pages (paraphrase) the men whom americans call private bankers are known in england as merchants -- as they remember where/how they got their start       anyhow, implies that time period was a shift where "capital" became liquid, whereas prior definition might've been more 'solid' (some actual good, asset, whatever).    compare "access to capital"Sep 10 11:01
activelowsuch as investing into railway did generate less cash than generating cash with cash at stock exchangeSep 10 11:01
kingoffrancedont trust me, just skimmed it, it is on archive.orgSep 10 11:01
kingoffrancei quote that just because, people will try to "ad hominem" so moody is someone americans shouldnt argue with :)Sep 10 11:01
kingoffrance's_Investors_ServiceSep 10 11:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Moody's Investors Service - WikipediaSep 10 11:02
kingoffrancenot that he is so great whatever, i really dont know these things, just to show he saw a shiftSep 10 11:02
kingoffrancethat seems lost to history nowadays "capital"Sep 10 11:02
activelowbtw. this phenomena in fact was explained by some more radical "austrian school" capitalist economers, who argued with "opportunity costs" and mislead pricing signalsSep 10 11:03
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activelowwhich leads to "mal-investment" "theory", such as generating profit with dumping cash into Facebook or Netflix generated more profit than investing into Lattice Semi or ZilogSep 10 11:03
activelowdue to bail-out and quantitative easing of uncompetitive business, "boom", "bust"Sep 10 11:04
kingoffrancewhat i understand its 99% not paper anyways.   so "capital doesnt mean anything"  credit is more accurate i think,  its access to credit.   minor point, but i think that is all relatedSep 10 11:08
kingoffrancenot advocating gold or whatever, just part of the shift i believeSep 10 11:08
kingoffrance*not even paperSep 10 11:08
activelowaustrian economers too explain the unavoidable systemic collapse ignited by mislead pricing (due to bail-out and quantitative easing), which too ruins busienss and economy even if it was "competitive" and "productive"Sep 10 11:11
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activelow"competitive" and "productive" business could not compete anymore with finance, since finance and stock exchange benefit from "risk free" bail-outs, which any other business had to take risks, and costs for education and staff and manufacturing are always higher than printing paper moneySep 10 11:12
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kingoffrancelet me rephrase: i quote moody because otherwise ppl will accuse you of "envy" or not knowing anything because you arent in the industry/whateverSep 10 11:19
techrights-news#Valve Releases Major Steam Client Update with New Downloads Page, Linux Improvements • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesSep 10 11:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Valve Releases Major Steam Client Update with New Downloads Page, Linux Improvements | Tux MachinesSep 10 11:26
techrights-news#Cozy – modern audio book player • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesSep 10 11:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Cozy – modern audio book player | Tux MachinesSep 10 11:26
techrights-newsBuilding an open source community health analytics platform • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesSep 10 11:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Building an open source community health analytics platform | Tux MachinesSep 10 11:27
techrights-news#Google #Android Leftovers • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ #Linux #TuxMachinesSep 10 11:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesSep 10 11:34
kingoffrancequote Scientists are starting to adopt heavy technology with large overheads in terms of complexity and invested effort to work around the problem (if you didn’t guess yet, I am referring to containers)      lolSep 10 11:37
techrights-newsWhat #Patent #Colonialism Looks Like • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ ䷉ #Techrights #EPO #Patents | ♾ Gemini address: gemini:// 10 11:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | What Patent Colonialism Looks Like | TechrightsSep 10 11:42
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techrights-news[Meme] 'Open Source' Study/Report From the #EuropeanCommission Promotes #SoftwarePatents in #Europe h/t @zoobab of @ffii #swpatsSep 10 12:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | [Meme] ‘Open Source’ Study/Report From the European Commission Promotes Software Patents in Europe | TechrightsSep 10 12:09
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techrights-newsToday in #Techrights • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesSep 10 12:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesSep 10 12:14
kingoffranceyes, that sounds like another inversion  " All effort can thus be concentrated on gaining new users, which leads to the paradoxical situation that the needs of non-users have a larger weight in strategic decisions than the needs of the user base. With backwards compatibility being costly, boring, and irrelevant to the non-users that matter for the future, why care about it?"Sep 10 12:17
kingoffrancemaybe not so black and white, but makes senseSep 10 12:18
techrights-news● NEWS ● #Techdirt ☞ #ATandT Whines About Spectrum Hoarding Now That #TMobile Is Doing It 10 12:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AT&T Whines About Spectrum Hoarding Now That T-Mobile Is Doing It | TechdirtSep 10 12:18
techrights-news● NEWS ● #Techdirt #RuneScape ☞ Another Mod War: Jagex Demands Shutdown Of HD RuneScape Mod, Retracts After Public Backlash 10 12:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Another Mod War: Jagex Demands Shutdown Of HD RuneScape Mod, Retracts After Public Backlash | TechdirtSep 10 12:20
techrights-news#eON or #EONNext #Energy Limited Possibly the #UK ’s Worst Energy Supplier 10 12:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/ » Blog Archive » e.ON or ‘E.ON Next Energy Limited’ Possibly the UK’s Worst Energy SupplierSep 10 12:31
gustafalso the "Thatcherite" movement to open investment to "normal people" - pension funds etc - means if you let those fail, you will have a lot of angry voters next election Sep 10 12:42
activelowpension fund exposure to speculation is only an alternative mechanism of re/distribution, and it isn't an investment as suchSep 10 12:47
activelowfees for private pension fund management are higher than state social securitySep 10 12:47
activelowthe only benefit additional pension funds have in germany are these are excempt from accounted for as income or savings in case of unemploymentSep 10 12:49
activelowbecause, maximum savings are capped in germany, for social security unemployment benefits; and private pension funds are excempt from this capSep 10 12:49
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gustafyeah Sep 10 12:55
activelowtaxation of this is another problem, savings dumped into a private pension often are already heavily taxed, and at pension age income from a private pension fund is taxed againSep 10 12:58
activelowhence, a german supreme court intervened a few weeks ago, this violated some legal criteria which i don't remember in detailSep 10 12:59
activelownonetheless, pension fund savings are recommended, if possible; i terminated my contract 2013 alreadySep 10 13:00
activelow"inflation in germany at record level in 28 years", recent report on phoenix news channel.Sep 10 13:04
gustafplenty of commodities have risen in price Sep 10 13:06
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techrights-news● NEWS ● #Techdirt ☞ Damned If You Do; Damned If You Don't: ProPublica's Bizarre Reporting On #WhatsApp Abuse Reports 10 15:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Damned If You Do; Damned If You Don't: ProPublica's Bizarre Reporting On WhatsApp Abuse Reports | TechdirtSep 10 15:20
techrights-newsThis video discusses the latest two “news” items from the EPO (first in about a month!) and part 19 of the current series, which ends tomorrow • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ ䷉ #Techrights #EPO #Europe #Corruption | ♾ Gemini address: gemini:// 10 15:22
techrights-news#OpenForum Europe and a German #patenttroll have issued this report, which on the surface looks like advocacy regarding (or for) software freedom… until one looks more closely • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ ䷉ #swpats #europeSep 10 15:23
techrights-news● NEWS ● #Techdirt #sharing #openaccess #science ☞ #SciHub Celebrates 10 Years Of Existence, With A Record 88 Million Papers Available, And A Call For Funds To Help It Add AI And Go Open Source 10 15:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Sci-Hub Celebrates 10 Years Of Existence, With A Record 88 Million Papers Available, And A Call For Funds To Help It Add AI And Go Open Source | TechdirtSep 10 15:29
techrights-news● NEWS ● #Techdirt ☞ #Connecticut Court Orders Blogger To Turn Over Electronic Devices To Cop Suing Over Alleged #Defamation By Blog's Commenters 10 15:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Connecticut Court Orders Blogger To Turn Over Electronic Devices To Cop Suing Over Alleged Defamation By Blog's Commenters | TechdirtSep 10 15:30
techrights-news#Programming Leftovers • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ 10 15:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Programming Leftovers | Tux MachinesSep 10 15:41
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techrights-newsLinks 10/9/2021: Firefox Ads and Sci-Hub Turns 10 • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini:// 10 15:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Links 10/9/2021: Firefox Ads and Sci-Hub Turns 10 | TechrightsSep 10 15:52
techrights-newsToday’s 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesSep 10 15:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesSep 10 15:53
techrights-news#devices leftovers • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesSep 10 15:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | devices leftovers | Tux MachinesSep 10 15:53
techrights-news"For most normal gamers it probably won't be a hugely relevant talk but for developers it could be an interesting one. The main thing is that #GNU #Linux had a presence at such a huge industry event." 10 15:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Open source in games: How to save your studio time and effort | GamingOnLinuxSep 10 15:55
techrights-news"Spine is an upcoming PlayStation 4 emulator that's currently closed-source while it's under heavy development. It's also currently only available for Linux." 10 15:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-PS4 emulator Spine gets a new demo release | GamingOnLinuxSep 10 15:56
techrights-news#Brazil 's Restrictive New #SocialControlMedia Rules Could Be an Omen For the Future of the #Internet 10 16:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-What Brazil's New Social Media Rules Mean For the Internet | TimeSep 10 16:09
techrights-news"While this is generally true some of the systems in use today are rather dated (to put it mildly). A great example is the method that pilots use in poor visibility to “find” the runway; their Instrument Landing System (ILS), a technology invented in 1929." 10 16:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | EFB Tampering. The Human Factor | Pen Test PartnersSep 10 16:11
techrights-newsLinux 5.15 Readies More Code For Compile & Run-Time Detection Of Buffer Overflows - Phoronix ⚓ ䷉ #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux 🐧 | more in 10 16:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux 5.15 Readies More Code For Compile & Run-Time Detection Of Buffer Overflows - PhoronixSep 10 16:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Social Control Media PostsSep 10 16:15
techrights-news#Surveillance state incoming with #Australia ’s “hacking” bill - Access Now ⚓ ䷉ #accessnowSep 10 16:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Surveillance state incoming with Australia’s “hacking” bill - Access NowSep 10 16:16
techrights-news"The order has been circulating on social media, but is not available on the Government websites. The order does not lay out a factual justification for why the internet suspension is required, and does not justify the geographical extent of the suspension either." 10 16:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | IFF wrote to the Haryana Government urging restraint on internet shutdownsSep 10 16:18
techrights-news#PipeWire Media Server 0.3.35 Released 10 16:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | PipeWireSep 10 16:20
techrights-newsWhy you should be more concerned about #internet shutdowns 10 16:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Why you should be more concerned about internet shutdowns | MIT Technology ReviewSep 10 16:22
techrights-news#RayBan working with the #stasi on #espionage give no money to the parent company of Ray-Ban (all the brands)...Sep 10 16:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Live Updates: Facebook to Unveil Ray-Ban Smart GlassesSep 10 16:23
techrights-news#GNOME 41 RC1 Download with fixes beta bugs 10 16:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | GNOME 41 Release Candidate Is Out with Last Minute Bug Fixes and Improvements | Tux MachinesSep 10 16:26
techrights-news" #WordPress 5.4-5.8 are affected by multiple vulnerabilities. An attacker could exploit these vulnerabilities to take control of an affected website." 10 16:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | WordPress Releases Security Update | CISASep 10 16:30
techrights-newsGames: Steam, Free Software, Tux and Fanny • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesSep 10 16:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Games: Steam, Free Software, Tux and Fanny | Tux MachinesSep 10 16:30
techrights-newsToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesSep 10 16:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | today's howtos | Tux MachinesSep 10 16:30
techrights-newsSix #Standards Recommendations for the #Biden Administration 10 16:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Six Standards Recommendations for Biden - ConsortiumInfo.orgConsortiumInfo.orgSep 10 16:31
techrights-newsHEY HI HEY HI.... selling #hardware using buzzwords "did we mention HEY HI???"Sep 10 16:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Habana Labs Opens Up The Code To Their AI Compiler, SynapseAI Core - PhoronixSep 10 16:36
techrights-newsMoving Forward After #CentOS 8 EOL ⚓ ䷉ #thehackernews #ibm #redhatSep 10 16:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Moving Forward After CentOS 8 EOLSep 10 16:37
techrights-news#phoronix compares #microsoft #vaourware like Service Pack '11' to existing things... :/Sep 10 16:39
techrights-news#Ext4 vs #XFS – Which Filesystem Should You Use ⚓ ䷉ #linoxide | more in 10 16:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Ext4 vs XFS – Which Filesystem Should You UseSep 10 16:40
techrights-news#OpenSnitch Application Firewall 1.4.0 Adds eBPF And nftables Support, Allow/Block Lists • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesSep 10 16:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | OpenSnitch Application Firewall 1.4.0 Adds eBPF And nftables Support, Allow/Block Lists | Tux MachinesSep 10 16:43
techrights-news#ibm #redhat #fedora "Being a community of diverse people from various backgrounds" racist liars: 10 16:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Call for Projects and Mentors for Outreachy December-March Cohort – Fedora Community BlogSep 10 16:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Imperialistic Blacklist Machines: Racist IBM and Red Hat — Just Like Donald Trump — Have Turned Fedora Into an Utterly Racist Project That Blacklists, Shuns and Permanently Bans People Based on Their Nationality Alone | TechrightsSep 10 16:48
techrights-news#Kernel: AMD/Radeon, Ext4 vs XFS, and Latest in inux 5.15 • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ #GPL #Linux #TuxMachinesSep 10 16:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Kernel: AMD/Radeon, Ext4 vs XFS, and Latest in inux 5.15 | Tux MachinesSep 10 16:50
techrights-news#freesw talent: how to capture it don't do what #ibm does. It has already caused many people from #redhat to flee....Sep 10 16:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-5 tips for recruiting an open source job candidate | Opensource.comSep 10 16:53
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techrights-newsThose are mostly #gnu rather than #linux but #ibm #redhat is still trying to 'kill' the founder of GNU/Linux to rewrite history 10 16:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | 3 must-know Linux commands for text manipulation | Enable SysadminSep 10 16:55
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techrights-news#System76 Updates The 15" Pangolin with Ryzen 10 16:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | GNU/Linux Laptops | Tux MachinesSep 10 16:56
techrights-news#ibm #redhat is #cloudwashing again #clownComputing #buzzwords #nonsenseSep 10 16:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | When everything is in the cloud, does the OS matter?Sep 10 16:59
techrights-news#ProtonMail is not a legitimate #privacy tool. #FalseMarketing #sellout 10 17:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ProtonMail Now Keeps IP Logs - Schneier on SecuritySep 10 17:02
techrights-news#clowncomputing = you rely on lies told to you by #marketing people of another company/entity 10 17:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | ProtonMail deletes 'we don't log your IP' boast from website after French climate activist reportedly arrested • The RegisterSep 10 17:03
techrights-news#IBM #/RedHat / #Fedora Leftovers • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ #GNU #LinuxSep 10 17:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | IBM/Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers | Tux MachinesSep 10 17:05
techrights-news#liveslak -1.3.10 and new ISO images for #Slackware Live Edition • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesSep 10 17:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | liveslak-1.3.10 and new ISO images for Slackware Live Edition | Tux MachinesSep 10 17:07
techrights-news"ProtonMail is an open-source webmail client distributed and licensed under GNU "General Public License" version 3." But the upstream provider is a rat/snitch 10 17:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Neutron: A Libre Mail server for Proton Webmail clientSep 10 17:10
techrights-news"We're wrapping up another great week with the following activities from the Apache community..." 10 17:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | The Apache News Round-up: week ending 10 September 2021 : The Apache Software Foundation BlogSep 10 17:11
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techrights-news"Debian 11 (Bullseye) comes with the mlt framework 6.24.0 and kdenlive 20.12.3. Unfortunately it was already too late (freeze) to build mlt with enabled OpenCV features, this are also required to use the motion tracker features, which are now still missing in the pure stable release." 10 17:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | kdenlive / mlt status in Debian Bullseye | Blog of PatrickSep 10 17:12
techrights-newsMore of that very typical FUD trying to blame #Golang and #Google because people can write malicious software in some particular language. It also blames "Linux" even though it's not clear how the malicious programs get there in the first place and what that has to do with #Linux 10 17:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-New ChaChi malware variant designed to target Linux systems - SiliconANGLESep 10 17:16
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techrights-news"The build centers around a Raspberry Pi 4 and a 7″ LCD display" 10 17:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Musical Cyberdeck Is Part Synth, Part MIDI Controller, And All Cool | HackadaySep 10 17:18
techrights-news#Security Leftovers • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesSep 10 17:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Security Leftovers | Tux MachinesSep 10 17:21
techrights-newsFive things to know before learning #Python | #RedHat Developer ⚓ ䷉ #programmingSep 10 17:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Five things to know before learning Python | Red Hat DeveloperSep 10 17:21
techrights-newsGiving #ProprietarySoftware access to your microphone is always a bad idea and poor practice #googleSep 10 17:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | A nightmare of confcalls and microphonesSep 10 17:23
techrights-newsFilling the sky with more junks instead of more birds #consumerismSep 10 17:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Aerodynamic Buoyant Blimp Budges Into Low Cost Cargo Commerce | HackadaySep 10 17:24
techrights-news#KDE Gear, Plasma, systemd Update in #Tumbleweed • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesSep 10 17:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | KDE Gear, Plasma, systemd Update in Tumbleweed | Tux MachinesSep 10 17:25
techrights-news...there is a resurgeance of FUD against #goland and Linux: along these lines: ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini:// 10 17:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | ZDNet Really Hates Golang (Maybe Because Microsoft Does) | TechrightsSep 10 17:27
techrights-newsCleaning up header bars in #GNOME • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesSep 10 17:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Cleaning up header bars | Tux MachinesSep 10 17:28
techrights-news#CatalinCimpanu 'fired' by #zdnet h No posts in 7 months. The site as a whole became a lot less active and let us hope it is dying. #boycottZDNet 10 17:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | ZDNet - TechrightsSep 10 17:30
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techrights-newsAt one point #zdnet did about 2 articles per day tagged "LINUX" and now it's just 2 in 8 days. #SJVN really needs to find a better place to write, not a place where they (actually did!) censor of criticism of #microsoft ... this #propagandaMill needs to perish and they use SJVN to borrow perceived credibilitySep 10 17:32
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techrights-newsOngoing discussion about how to further enhance user input in #geminiProtocol (e.g. for search) 10 17:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | [tech] trailing '?' for input (was: entry field in gemtext)Sep 10 17:40
techrights-newsIt is a positive sign that they will be using #BigBlueButton 10 17:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Schedule Finalized for Practical Open Source Information | Open Source InitiativeSep 10 17:48
techrights-newsHaving said that, #OSI #PracticalOpenSource itself is quite the farce: 10 17:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Open Source Initiative: Pay Us $6,000 and We’ll Present You as Supporting Diversity | TechrightsSep 10 17:51
techrights-newsWhen Did #Diversity Become a Product Sold to Corporations and to Privileged Autocrats? • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini:// 10 17:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | When Did Diversity Become a Product Sold to Corporations and to Privileged Autocrats? | TechrightsSep 10 17:52
techrights-newsThe most popular AMD Ryzen CPUs are finally getting optimized Linux support • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesSep 10 17:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | The most popular AMD Ryzen CPUs are finally getting optimized Linux support | Tux MachinesSep 10 17:53
techrights-news#AlmaLinux 8.4 on my #IdeaPad 3 - Decent, with a snag or two • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesSep 10 17:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | AlmaLinux 8.4 on my IdeaPad 3 - Decent, with a snag or two | Tux MachinesSep 10 17:55
techrights-newsEnding lockdowns created a crisis for home pets, e.g. dogs and cats, not just the #climate and air quality. Get people to work from home; don't pamper the oligarchs who made a bad (risky) investment in "office estate"...Sep 10 17:57
techrights-news#krita #kde #freesw art: Yak Shaving 10 18:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Yak Shaving - David RevoySep 10 18:01
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techrights-news#YOGA Image Optimizer – Graphical Tool to Convert & Compress PNG, JPEG, WebP • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesSep 10 18:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | YOGA Image Optimizer – Graphical Tool to Convert & Compress PNG, JPEG, WebP | Tux MachinesSep 10 18:01
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techrights-news"The Librem 5 is very, very close to being the only phone I carry around with me. But there are five things holding it back. Let's talk about them." 10 18:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | The 5 things holding back the Librem 5 - InvidiousSep 10 18:07
techrights-news#Google #Android Leftovers • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ #Linux #TuxMachinesSep 10 18:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesSep 10 18:08
techrights-news"The point of terrorism is to leverage the efforts of a small group in an attempt to modify the behavior of a much larger group." 10 18:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bob’s 9/11 post from 20 years ago — To a Man With a Hammer | I, CringelySep 10 18:09
techrights-newsAirplanes and airports are superspreader platforms. I hope the airlines die a quick death. The sooner, the better. The #climate and #pollution crisis is several times worse than #covid19Sep 10 18:14
techrights-newsToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesSep 10 18:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | today's howtos | Tux MachinesSep 10 18:14
techrights-newsInput mapping tool AntiMicroX 3.1.7 is out with improved Wayland support • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesSep 10 18:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Input mapping tool AntiMicroX 3.1.7 is out with improved Wayland support | Tux MachinesSep 10 18:18
techrights-newsEU Begins Antitrust Investigation Into Google Assistant when does the investigation into #microsoft crime start too? 10 18:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-EU Begins Antitrust Investigation Into Google Assistant on Android - Voicebot.aiSep 10 18:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | EPO and Microsoft Collude to Break the Law — Summing Up: EPO Administrative Council Still Asleep at the Wheel | TechrightsSep 10 18:20
techrights-news#microsoft strategy: commit the crimes, bribe officials, then also tell them to go after our competitors, instead 10 18:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | EPO and Microsoft Collude to Break the Law — Part XII: Foreign Corrupt Practices, Bid Rigging and “Slush Funds” | TechrightsSep 10 18:21
techrights-newsLooking back on 30 years of #Linux history with Red Hat's Pete Zaitcev 10 18:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Happy 30th Birthday, Linux! | Tux MachinesSep 10 18:23
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techrights-newsBriar: The right open-source messenger for activists it is on #fdroid too, but I am sceptical but 'smart' phones have back doors: 10 18:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Briar: The right open-source messenger for activistsSep 10 18:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Vault7 - HomeSep 10 18:27
techrights-newsGet more out of the window title with #Konsole • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #KDESep 10 18:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Get more out of the window title with Konsole | Tux MachinesSep 10 18:28
techrights-news"As our tools of choice, C/GObject and Vulkan were used in both projects, maintaining our goal of keeping xrdesktop low level and thus providing a performant XR experience." 10 18:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | An xrdesktop summer of codeSep 10 18:30
techrights-news#Uganda charges lawmakers allied to opposition leader with murder 10 18:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Uganda charges lawmakers allied to opposition leader with murder | ReutersSep 10 18:35
techrights-news"A lack of clarity on the Taliban's position on women in #Afghanistan has generated "incredible fear" across the country, a senior U.N. official said on Wednesday, warning there were daily reports of curbs on the rights of women." 10 18:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-'Incredible fear' among women across Afghanistan -U.N. official | ReutersSep 10 18:36
techrights-news[Satire] Inmate Granted Parole After Court Determines Release Poses No Threat To Prison’s Bottom Line ⚓ ䷉ #theonionSep 10 18:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Inmate Granted Parole After Court Determines Release Poses No Threat To Prison’s Bottom LineSep 10 18:37
techrights-news#techrepublic returning error pages. Varnish defunct. Let's hope its sister site #zdnet is next... as they're front groups for malicious corporate agendaSep 10 18:39
techrights-newsMusical Cyberdeck is Part Synth, Part MIDI Controller, and All Cool • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesSep 10 18:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Musical Cyberdeck is Part Synth, Part MIDI Controller, and All Cool | Tux MachinesSep 10 18:40
techrights-newsLinks 10/9/2021: liveslak-1.3.10 and PipeWire 0.3.35 • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini:// 10 19:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Links 10/9/2021: liveslak-1.3.10 and PipeWire 0.3.35 | TechrightsSep 10 19:01
techrights-news#Programming and Standards • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ 10 19:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Programming and Standards | Tux MachinesSep 10 19:01
techrights-newsToday’s 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesSep 10 19:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesSep 10 19:02
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techrights-news"SpiderMonkey is the JavaScript engine used in Mozilla Firefox. This newsletter gives an overview of the JavaScript and WebAssembly work we’ve done as part of the Firefox 92 and 93 Nightly release cycles." 10 20:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | SpiderMonkey Newsletter (Firefox 92-93) | SpiderMonkey JavaScript/WebAssembly EngineSep 10 20:45
techrights-newsSevere inability to name GNU and what GNU does 10 20:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Is Linux a Programming Language? - LinuxTechLabSep 10 20:48
techrights-news#Habana Labs HEY HI Driver Updates Submitted For Linux 5.15 - Phoronix ⚓ ䷉ #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux 🐧 | more in 10 20:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Habana Labs AI Driver Updates Submitted For Linux 5.15 - PhoronixSep 10 20:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Social Control Media PostsSep 10 20:50
techrights-newsA new survivor has appeared in the latest Don't Starve Together update | GamingOnLinux ⚓ ䷉ #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games 🐧 | more in 10 20:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A new survivor has appeared in the latest Don't Starve Together update | GamingOnLinuxSep 10 20:51
techrights-news#ibm lying. "So first I was listening to the CEO office hours the other day, the CEO said IBM hires anywhere from 40K to 60K people a year!!! Wow, really?!? How many layoffs are required to achieve that hiring number" So first I was listening to the CEO office hours the other day, the CEO said IBM hires anywhere from 40K to 60K people a year!!! Wow, really?!? How many layoffs are required to achieve that hiring numberSep 10 20:54
techrights-news#ibm lying. "So first I was listening to the CEO office hours the other day, the CEO said IBM hires anywhere from 40K to 60K people a year!!! Wow, really?!? How many layoffs are required to achieve that hiring number" 10 20:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | IBM is hiring, please apply... - post regarding IBM layoffsSep 10 20:55
techrights-news"For those with family and kids on the way its much harder. I know many families at #IBM who don't send their kids to school or daycare because of COVID. I think once things start to settle down in 2022 you will see more people leave who have families." 10 20:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | If you don't leave in 2021, you never will! - post regarding IBM layoffsSep 10 20:56
techrights-news#ibm "most hiring is Band 6/7 to do a Band 8/9 job... When the teams complain to the execs, they say just hire overseas for the higher levels." 10 20:57
techrights-news#ibm "Was hired in '96 and RA'd [laid off] class of 2020. I learned that the personal pension will only accrue (earn) interest until I turn 65, then interest stops." 10 20:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | IBM Personal Pension Plan And Social Security Benefits - post regarding IBM layoffsSep 10 20:58
techrights-news#fedora severely understaffed and without a community under #ibm (they do not wish to be slaves of this firm) 10 20:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Friday's Fedora Facts: 2021-36 – Fedora Community BlogSep 10 20:59
techrights-newsQuadratic algorithms are slow (and hashmaps are fast) ⚓ ䷉ #jvns #programmingSep 10 21:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Quadratic algorithms are slow (and hashmaps are fast)Sep 10 21:00
techrights-newsCancel all #patents associated with #covid19 #patent #monopolies #greedSep 10 21:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Eyes on Trade: Tuesday Press Conference: MoCs, Civil Society and Labor Leaders Urge Biden To Launch Global Plan to End Pandemic at Next Week’s UN SummitSep 10 21:02
techrights-newsWe already have way more than enough problems on this planet, so "Asteroid Threat" seems like a distraction 10 21:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-NASA Are Squaring Up Against The Asteroid Threat | HackadaySep 10 21:07
techrights-news"delivery of goods involving a server in communication with a customer’s computer through a user interface via the Internet." = #swpats = #fakepatents #uspto #ptabSep 10 21:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | $2,000 for Consumeron prior art — Unified PatentsSep 10 21:12
techrights-news#microsoft #windows #fail 10 21:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | With a Lidl bit of luck, this Windows installation will make it through the night • The RegisterSep 10 21:13
techrights-newsVirtualization: Containers and VMs with Proxmox VE 7.0 10 21:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Proxmox Virtual Environment 7.0 released | Tux MachinesSep 10 21:18
techrights-newsThe developers of #GhostBSD have released version 09/21/06 of the free Unix derivative. 10 21:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | GhostBSD 21.09.06 ISO's now available | Tux MachinesSep 10 21:18
techrights-newsEl Salvador's bitcoin experiment splits crypto community amid major price decline 10 21:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-El Salvador’s bitcoin experiment splits crypto community amid major price decline - MarketWatchSep 10 21:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Elon Musk Accused of Bitcoin Market Manipulation By Top Economist | Tom's HardwareSep 10 21:23
techrights-news[Old] #RaspberryPi Treat Dispenser Rewards Good Dogs 10 21:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Raspberry Pi Treat Dispenser Rewards Good Dogs | Tom's HardwareSep 10 21:25
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techrights-newsYou ought not use ANY version of #microsoft #windows back doors are perpetual, versions are a money-draining scam 10 21:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | This Raspberry Pi Pico Solar System Display is Far From Orrery | Tom's HardwareSep 10 21:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Microsoft and the NSA - TechrightsSep 10 21:31
techrights-newsWindows... DA BEST 10 21:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | current version of BSOD after problems installing updates. - Windows Crashes and Blue Screen of Death (BSOD) Help and SupportSep 10 21:31
techrights-news#RSSGuard would be wise to #deletehgithub see 10 21:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | RSS Guard 4.0.2 - NeowinSep 10 21:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Delete Github - TechrightsSep 10 21:36
techrights-news#VoidLinux: excellent choice for more advanced Linux users • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ #GNU #Linux distro that needs to #deletegithubSep 10 21:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Void Linux: excellent choice for more advanced Linux users | Tux MachinesSep 10 21:40
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techrights-news#ibm causing chaos for many 10 21:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | As CentOS Linux Loses Support Dec. 31, CloudLinux TuxCare Moves In to Help CentOS UsersSep 10 21:43
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techrights-news#Wine 6.17 Announcement • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesSep 10 21:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Wine 6.17 Announcement | Tux MachinesSep 10 21:49
techrights-news#Litigation giant Finnegan (, Henderson, Farabow, Garrett & Dunner, LLP): PAY US OR THE SKY WILL FALL 10 21:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | File It Or Lose It - Intellectual Property - European UnionSep 10 21:51
techrights-newsWine development release 6.17 is out with continued work for the GDI syscall interface 10 21:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Wine 6.17 Announcement | Tux MachinesSep 10 21:55
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techrights-news#EPO case law is patently rigged and oughtn't be copied anywhere see 10 22:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | English Court of Appeal brings sufficiency test into line with EPO case law | IAMSep 10 22:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | G 1/21 is a Catastrophe for the EPO’s Legitimacy | TechrightsSep 10 22:21
techrights-newsComplete propaganda as some of these are obstacles designed to give advantage to foreign firms see, e.g. 10 22:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | R&D, Ip & Standardisation Are Key Elements For An Innovative IndiaSep 10 22:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Software Patents in India - TechrightsSep 10 22:30
techrights-newsMicrosoft blames the users for its software being broken and incapable of protecting users 10 22:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Thursday: Tesla laser, Twitter deletion, cell broadcast & Windows attacks - Market Research TelecastSep 10 22:31
techrights-news#EPO wasting money again, bribing the media, bribing host nations (vote-buying), and distracting from its many crimes sometimes it promotes frauds too: 10 22:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | EPO - Register for the European Inventor Award virtual roadshowSep 10 22:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Elizabeth Holmes Charged With “Massive Fraud” and Team Battistelli Rushes to Distance Itself From Her | TechrightsSep 10 22:34
techrights-newsIssuing a whole press release just to announce that one's #patents aren't deemed fake in #PTAB 's eyes (it can be appealed to #CAFC , still #usptoSep 10 22:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | PTAB Affirms Patentability of Parus ClaimsSep 10 22:36
techrights-newsOwing to #epo coverage in #techrights we've been getting more leaks and tips from/about other institutions. We'll be covering a lot of abuses in years to come. The media's failure to cover issues works in our favour...Sep 10 22:38
techrights-newsThis morning I opened a formal complaint in #eon / #eonNext and since then no updates, no phonecalls, nothing we'll see if something happens Monday...Sep 10 22:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/ » Blog Archive » e.ON or ‘E.ON Next Energy Limited’ Possibly the UK’s Worst Energy SupplierSep 10 22:39
techrights-newsWith the #techrights wiki added to #geminiSpace (about 1,000 pages) we'll soon exceed 38.000 pages in total, in gemini:// alone... gemini:// 10 22:41
techrights-news#internet news is a sort of fictional thing because 20 years ago it did exist and money was invested in it. Nowadays #socialcontrolmedia dooms it, replacing it with #misinformation and for-profit #disinformation for the most part. Because that's where the money is: PR and lies.Sep 10 22:43
techrights-newsHow I Research Stuff "like this Charlie Sheen-inspired piece about alternative medicine, or this piece on bottle deposits."Sep 10 22:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Become a Better Digital Researcher: Tips From TediumSep 10 22:44
techrights-news#Mozilla has nothing of value left to say. So, here are some 'tweets'... 10 22:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Matrix 4, Blue's Clues, #StarTrekDay and More — Everything That's Old is New Again in This Week's Top ShelfSep 10 22:45
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Evolution of LanguageSep 10 22:54
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techrights-newsToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesSep 10 23:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | today's howtos | Tux MachinesSep 10 23:10
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techrights-newsChallenging #DavidKappos , Seeking Accountability Over His Corporate Legacy as #IBM / #Microsoft 'Mole' Inside the U.S. #Patent and Trademark Office @zoobabSep 10 23:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Challenging David Kappos, Seeking Accountability Over His Corporate Legacy as IBM/Microsoft ‘Mole’ Inside the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office | TechrightsSep 10 23:22
techrights-news#Kernel: Linux Habana Labs Driver and Microsoftisation • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ #GPL #Linux #TuxMachinesSep 10 23:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Kernel: Linux Habana Labs Driver and Microsoftisation | Tux MachinesSep 10 23:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - ThoughtSep 10 23:37
techrights-news[Meme] 12 Years of Corporate Deplorables Running the #USPTO #swpats #google #ibm #microsoftSep 10 23:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | [Meme] 12 Years of Corporate Deplorables Running the USPTO | TechrightsSep 10 23:44
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schestowitzatSep 10 23:55
schestowitz> Thanks.  Sep 10 23:55
schestowitz> Sep 10 23:55
schestowitz> What makes me very angry is that Kappos, coming from IBM, used hisSep 10 23:55
schestowitz> corruption of the USPTO to catapult himself into some sort of worldSep 10 23:55
schestowitz> expert on the patent system and a champion for inventors, when he ruinedSep 10 23:55
schestowitz> the patent system and made life worse for inventors.  Sep 10 23:55
schestowitz> Sep 10 23:55
schestowitz> He's at a top law firm in New York, "teaching" at several topSep 10 23:55
schestowitz> universities in New York, and featured at conferences and on corporateSep 10 23:55
schestowitz> websites.  Sep 10 23:55
schestowitz> Sep 10 23:55
schestowitz> I'm trying to decide just how aggressively I want to spread theseSep 10 23:55
schestowitz> complaints.Sep 10 23:55
schestowitz> Sep 10 23:55
schestowitz> I want to use them to destroy him, but I just have to think it through aSep 10 23:55
schestowitz> bit.   Sep 10 23:55
schestowitzIt was not just him:Sep 10 23:55
schestowitz Sep 10 23:56
techrights-news[Meme] #EPO and #EUIPO Aren’t Democratic Institutions #europe #corruption #euSep 10 23:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | [Meme] EPO and EUIPO Aren’t Democratic Institutions | TechrightsSep 10 23:59

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