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| highest_cubist_thrills | dear princess celestia... https://yewtu.be/watch?v=mHEh1oK6hb0 | Sep 19 00:00 |
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| MinceR | i would have told you that vim exists | Sep 19 00:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Doogie Howser - Journal End Scene - Humility and Self Respect - Invidious | Sep 19 00:00 | |
| MinceR | all you had to do is ask | Sep 19 00:00 |
| mixling | MinceR: Vim is _slow_ | Sep 19 00:00 |
| mixling | some weeks ago, i wasted time, to hunt which plugin slowed down Vim startup, required several seconds | Sep 19 00:01 |
| MinceR | sounds like your plugin was slow, not vim | Sep 19 00:01 |
| mixling | compiling Vim, cross-compiling, isn't nice | Sep 19 00:01 |
| MinceR | https://assets.amuniversal.com/6b08abb09fbb012f2fe600163e41dd5b | Sep 19 00:01 |
| mixling | MinceR: the plugin is execed by some Vim-specific script interpreter | Sep 19 00:01 |
| mixling | *executed | Sep 19 00:01 |
| mixling | Vim is slow, it's a beast | Sep 19 00:02 |
| XRevan86 | highest_cubist_thrills: Oh my goodness, this is so corny. | Sep 19 00:03 |
| mixling | i will miss some plugins, but vis editor will avoid many problems, i hope, when removing GNU-buildsystem (autotools/automake) | Sep 19 00:03 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | well they didnt have the same writers as mlp | Sep 19 00:03 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | the good news is that many years later he would play lance in undercover brother | Sep 19 00:03 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | /me is pretty sure the 90s were actually just a bad acid trip, not a real decade | Sep 19 00:04 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | there was some awesome music though | Sep 19 00:04 |
| XRevan86 | highest_cubist_thrills: Russians agree. | Sep 19 00:04 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | i think it was even worse in russia | Sep 19 00:05 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | there was some awesome accordion music though | Sep 19 00:05 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | (no, really) | Sep 19 00:05 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | "OH, MAKE IT TALK!"-- weird al, i love rocky road | Sep 19 00:06 |
| MinceR | mixling: ah, you need an artificial limitation so you won't run any plugins because your own willpower isn't enough :> | Sep 19 00:06 |
| *MinceR is pretty sure the 90s were a great decade for movies, video games and music | Sep 19 00:07 | |
| MinceR | and video game music | Sep 19 00:07 |
| starstreak | +1 | Sep 19 00:07 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | bleep bleep bloop bleep bleep bleep | Sep 19 00:08 |
| starstreak | i like music better from the 00s tho | Sep 19 00:08 |
| DaemonFC | https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/09/18/geico-told-me-i-was-a-very-safe-driver-and-proceeded-to-raise-my-six-month-premium-by-over-150/ | Sep 19 00:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Geico told me I was a very safe driver and proceeded to raise my six month premium by over $150. | BaronHK's Rants | Sep 19 00:08 | |
| mixling | MinceR: i will miss various vim-plugins, no doubt, but those are not worth the problems to cope with elsewhere | Sep 19 00:08 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | https://yewtu.be/watch?v=YkgfmWfJ11s | Sep 19 00:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Air - All I Need - New Video! - Invidious | Sep 19 00:08 | |
| DaemonFC | Still working on it. | Sep 19 00:09 |
| MinceR | 19 010804 < highest_cubist_thrills> bleep bleep bloop bleep bleep bleep | Sep 19 00:09 |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfOLAOjVTA0 | Sep 19 00:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://youtube.076.ne.jp/watch?v=zfOLAOjVTA0 | Sep 19 00:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> youtube.076.ne.jp | Hexen Music PC: Winnowing Hall - Invidious | Sep 19 00:10 | |
| starstreak | MinceR is pretty sure the 90s were a great decade for movies, video games and <- and WMs | Sep 19 00:10 |
| DaemonFC | San Francisco deserves to fail. | Sep 19 00:10 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | definitely for wms | Sep 19 00:10 |
| DaemonFC | It's a city full of freaks and weirdos. | Sep 19 00:10 |
| DaemonFC | If we're lucky, Matthew Garrett will lose his job as a part of a "mass reorg" or whatever they call it now to avoid saying layoff or recession. | Sep 19 00:11 |
| starstreak | i liked gnome 2, thats from the 00s | Sep 19 00:11 |
| *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: Leaving) | Sep 19 00:11 | |
| MinceR | gnome 1 was from the 90s and it was better | Sep 19 00:12 |
| MinceR | neither of those are wm-s though | Sep 19 00:12 |
| starstreak | enlightenment was badass in the 90s | Sep 19 00:12 |
| starstreak | my friend had it running on a 486 | Sep 19 00:12 |
| MinceR | if slowness, massive tooltips, tons of cryptic buttons and baroque overdetailing are badass, yes | Sep 19 00:13 |
| starstreak | :/ | Sep 19 00:13 |
| mixling | vis editor, raises one question, which is reliance on LUA scripting | Sep 19 00:13 |
| mixling | it seems, lua will be easy to bootstrap; perl and python are rather difficult in this regard | Sep 19 00:14 |
| mixling | with python i haven't got a bootstrapping path with tcc-toolchain at all, and with perl i had to roll-back to version 5.8 (year 2003) | Sep 19 00:14 |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWr12CQHTxE | Sep 19 00:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://invidious.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=cWr12CQHTxE | Sep 19 00:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> inv.bp.projectsegfau.lt | Tyrian Soundtrack (Roland Sound Canvas SC-88) - Invidious | Sep 19 00:14 | |
| mixling | yet, i removed python from the tcc-toolchain profile, no need for this one | Sep 19 00:15 |
| starstreak | oooo Tyrian :D | Sep 19 00:15 |
| mixling | and if i remove all GNU-buildsystem dependencies, i won't need Perl anymore either (except linux kernel build, not sure yet) | Sep 19 00:15 |
| mixling | hence, a scripting language besides shell occasionally is useful, why not, i'll give lua a chance | Sep 19 00:16 |
| starstreak | Tyrian was one of the best DOS games | Sep 19 00:16 |
| MinceR | the correct version of the Tyrian logo doesn't have a dot on the 'i' though | Sep 19 00:16 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | <MinceR> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfOLAOjVTA0 <- midi really needs to come back | Sep 19 00:16 |
| MinceR | (as it's an ambigram) | Sep 19 00:16 |
| MinceR | highest_cubist_thrills: so do modules | Sep 19 00:16 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | yes | Sep 19 00:16 |
| MinceR | if i ever get around to making my fantasy AFPS, it will have support for midi and module music | Sep 19 00:16 |
| mixling | the situation with scripting languages is, ideally, there won't be more than two of those at most | Sep 19 00:18 |
| mixling | shell script of cause, and lua, why not... tccboot did re-implement linux Kbuild too for linux-2.4, don't know if perl is remaining there | Sep 19 00:19 |
| mixling | ideally not, then it's shell and lua script, and nothing else | Sep 19 00:19 |
| MinceR | lol lua | Sep 19 00:19 |
| mixling | vis-editor depends on it | Sep 19 00:19 |
| mixling | MinceR: what's lol with lua? | Sep 19 00:20 |
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| highest_cubist_thrills | i think part of the reason im not offended by englightment is twofold | Sep 19 00:22 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | despite the fact that ive never been able to use it | Sep 19 00:22 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | first, at a time when it was actually a pretty clever hack, they did a lot of things extremely well | Sep 19 00:22 |
| MinceR | very low-powered language | Sep 19 00:22 |
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| highest_cubist_thrills | i dont love the design, but its not impossible to appreciate | Sep 19 00:23 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | more to the point though | Sep 19 00:23 |
| mixling | never used it before | Sep 19 00:23 |
| MinceR | well, at least enlightenment manages to look interesting on screenshots | Sep 19 00:23 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | ive never encountered any really obnoxious fans or developers | Sep 19 00:23 |
| MinceR | even if i find it pointless to use | Sep 19 00:23 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | which i cant ever say about gnome or kde | Sep 19 00:23 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | so i guess it gets points for that | Sep 19 00:23 |
| MinceR | and it's probably not as slow as windows | Sep 19 00:23 |
| XRevan86 | highest_cubist_thrills: Oh, also, regarding Princess Unicorn: https://youtu.be/CZTY69xwnEg :) | Sep 19 00:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://tube.cthd.icu/watch?v=CZTY69xwnEg | Sep 19 00:24 | |
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| highest_cubist_thrills | Oh, also, regarding Princess Unicorn <- a string of words i never expected to ever encounter, let alone from you | Sep 19 00:24 |
| mixling | i stumbled upon lua twice recently: with vis-editor today, and oasis linux utilizes it | Sep 19 00:24 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | princess unicorn brings everyone together | Sep 19 00:25 |
| mixling | lua seems it is closer to embedded use with efficiency in mind | Sep 19 00:25 |
| starstreak | if I was switching from gnome it would probably be to KDE because I like okular, dolphin and konversation | Sep 19 00:25 |
| starstreak | i already use k3b to burn blue ray data disks | Sep 19 00:25 |
| XRevan86 | highest_cubist_thrills: Until she gets neutralised with a tennis ball that is. | Sep 19 00:25 |
| mixling | and, it's probably easy to bootstrap, in comparison to python which i couldn't bootstrap with tcc-toolchain | Sep 19 00:25 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | /me wants to watch every season of mlp:fim (which ive never done before) | Sep 19 00:25 |
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| highest_cubist_thrills | entirely redone with male scottish accents | Sep 19 00:26 |
| XRevan86 | Laughed out loud | Sep 19 00:26 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | deeearrr preencess sahleastya... | Sep 19 00:27 |
| starstreak | highest_cubist_thrills, my little pony? | Sep 19 00:27 |
| mixling | with perl bootstrapping/compilation, besides the version rollback to v5.8, too it is impossible/difficult to cross-compile | Sep 19 00:27 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | today i larned | Sep 19 00:27 |
| mixling | lua probably is easier to cope with in this regard too | Sep 19 00:27 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | starstreak: leftovers from the marriage | Sep 19 00:27 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | but good fun | Sep 19 00:28 |
| XRevan86 | starstreak: Memory-level parallelism | Sep 19 00:28 |
| MinceR | the Seven Mounting Heavens of Celestia? | Sep 19 00:28 |
| mixling | key to removing Perl is, in any case, full removal of the entire GNU-buildsystem and anything which depends on it | Sep 19 00:28 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | /me thinks "seven mounting heavens" sounds more like mlp slashfic/furry fantasy | Sep 19 00:28 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | but only because i dont know what it is | Sep 19 00:29 |
| mixling | and i must verify linux kernel build doesn't require it, Perl | Sep 19 00:29 |
| MinceR | it's D&D | Sep 19 00:29 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | well now its going in strange new directions | Sep 19 00:29 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | but then so is d&d | Sep 19 00:29 |
| MinceR | https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Celestia | Sep 19 00:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-1d4chan.org | Celestia - 1d4chan | Sep 19 00:29 | |
| MinceR | (i prefer Arvandor and Ysgard though) | Sep 19 00:29 |
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| mixling | and lua got some regular expression type pattern match and string processing too, seems different to what i learned with perl | Sep 19 00:30 |
| mixling | regular expressions, pattern matching, that's something vis-editor focused on | Sep 19 00:31 |
| mixling | however, vis does it with lua, not perl style regex | Sep 19 00:31 |
| mixling | i have to keep this in mind | Sep 19 00:31 |
| mixling | because, regular expression are an important use-case | Sep 19 00:32 |
| mixling | libprcre/2 seem cluttered with GNU-buildsystem, hence this wasn't available | Sep 19 00:33 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Still closer connected to reality than whatever aggi's up to %). | Sep 19 00:33 |
| MinceR | s/Arvandor/Arborea/ | Sep 19 00:33 |
| mixling | just as said, lua does it differently, and vis-editor relies on lua LPeg | Sep 19 00:33 |
| MinceR | whatever, Arvandor is a layer of Arborea :> | Sep 19 00:33 |
| mixling | seems another bingo, to think about | Sep 19 00:33 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | the difference is basically Arbotreary | Sep 19 00:34 |
| *mixling feels the force of research unix | Sep 19 00:34 | |
| mixling | and lua, isn't "made in usa" either, it's from Brazil | Sep 19 00:34 |
| mixling | with in interesting history... "From 1977 until 1992, Brazil had a policy of strong trade barriers" | Sep 19 00:35 |
| mixling | an | Sep 19 00:35 |
| immibis | lua doesn't have regex, it's just a simple char-by-char parser written in a short format | Sep 19 00:37 |
| immibis | well, regex is also that | Sep 19 00:37 |
| mixling | http://www.inf.puc-rio.br/~roberto/lpeg/ | Sep 19 00:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.inf.puc-rio.br | LPeg - Parsing Expression Grammars For Lua | Sep 19 00:39 | |
| XRevan86 | highest_cubist_thrills: https://youtu.be/RwK5lhufdNI I'm obligated to share this with you as well. | Sep 19 00:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=RwK5lhufdNI | Sep 19 00:45 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> invidious.snopyta.org | A Moment of Peace - Invidious | Sep 19 00:46 | |
| mixling | another intersting project i stumbled upon, which prefers lua: Oasis Linux | Sep 19 00:48 |
| mixling | they implement their build system with lua; ok, and i noticed some other intersections with Oasis Linux | Sep 19 00:49 |
| mixling | because, i must remove gentoo, and oasis already maintains a software tree, with some package manager | Sep 19 00:49 |
| XRevan86 | > A major goal of oasis is to build with cproc | Sep 19 00:49 |
| mixling | this would save me alot of work, if i forked and built upon what Oasis got already | Sep 19 00:49 |
| mixling | XRevan86: cproc, sadly, doesn't contain some other utilities which tcc got | Sep 19 00:50 |
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| mixling | and verifying the c-only profile with tcc, will benefit any other sane c-compiler/toolchain too | Sep 19 00:50 |
| mixling | yes, that's another interesction, an alternative compiler/toolchain | Sep 19 00:51 |
| mixling | oasis already integrated bearssl, very nice, because this is the ssl library i would prefer | Sep 19 00:51 |
| mixling | libressl/openssl too depend on GNU-buildsystem clutter | Sep 19 00:51 |
| mixling | another problem solved | Sep 19 00:52 |
| mixling | Oasis Linux still ships python (now MICROS~1), i won't, simply because python doesn't bootstrap with tcc-toolchain | Sep 19 00:54 |
| starstreak | mixling, python is microsoft? | Sep 19 00:55 |
| mixling | starstreak: the developer moved there | Sep 19 00:55 |
| mixling | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guido_van_Rossum | Sep 19 00:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Guido van Rossum - Wikipedia | Sep 19 00:56 | |
| mixling | Employer Microsoft | Sep 19 00:56 |
| mixling | howver, it is _technical_ reasons i want to remove Python | Sep 19 00:56 |
| mixling | and it is _technical_ reasons i want to remove GNU-toolchain and GNU-buildsystem | Sep 19 00:56 |
| XRevan86 | Guido van Rossum is no longer the BDFL of Python. | Sep 19 00:57 |
| XRevan86 | https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-committers/2018-July/005664.html | Sep 19 00:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mail.python.org | [python-committers] Transfer of power | Sep 19 00:58 | |
| mixling | Gentoo developer Robbins too went to Microsoft | Sep 19 00:58 |
| XRevan86 | And similiarly Gentoo was not affected by that. | Sep 19 00:58 |
| XRevan86 | However, Python does have a relationship with Microsoft. | Sep 19 00:59 |
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| MinceR | MICROS~1 is trying to make every new language their own | Sep 19 00:59 |
| MinceR | they can't take over old, standardized languages with many implementations (especially with several free ones) | Sep 19 01:00 |
| MinceR | MICROS~1 is a cancer that tries to take over everything in the universe, starting with IT | Sep 19 01:00 |
| mixling | i don't care, MICROS~1 hasn't got anything of interest to offer since they introduced win311 and GNOME | Sep 19 01:01 |
| mixling | sorry, can't refrain | Sep 19 01:02 |
| mixling | after decades of pain inflicted by them | Sep 19 01:02 |
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| DaemonFC | They're not allowed to do placement tests for "college" anymore. | Sep 19 01:04 |
| DaemonFC | So they shouldn't be surprised when anyone can get a student loan and nobody has to take an intelligence test, and then they bring the shootings with them. | Sep 19 01:05 |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJ0Ob4PlCDU | Sep 19 01:09 |
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| starstreak | RONNIE STAHP! | Sep 19 01:34 |
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| highest_cubist_thrills | <XRevan86> However, Python does have a relationship with Microsoft. <- yeah, cpython is microsoft | Sep 19 01:37 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | cpython does not support python 2 | Sep 19 01:37 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | cpython is a pile of shit | Sep 19 01:37 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | there is only microsof python and pypy | Sep 19 01:37 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | i dont hold any hope for cpython | Sep 19 01:38 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | first google made it stupid | Sep 19 01:38 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | then microsoft made it poisin | Sep 19 01:38 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | so its stupid poison | Sep 19 01:38 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | will i touch python 3? absolutely | Sep 19 01:38 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | i avoid it | Sep 19 01:38 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | someone makes a new project that uses python 3? | Sep 19 01:39 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | i probably wont use it | Sep 19 01:39 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | old project i can make work in python 2? then maybe | Sep 19 01:39 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | but python 2 isnt supported! | Sep 19 01:39 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | LIES! | Sep 19 01:39 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | cpython 2 isnt supported | Sep 19 01:39 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | fuck cpython though | Sep 19 01:39 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | do i use anything python 3? oh yes | Sep 19 01:40 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | very sparingly | Sep 19 01:40 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | i really prefer not to touch it | Sep 19 01:40 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | microsoft controls the DIRECTION Of python 3, not just the hosting | Sep 19 01:41 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | so microsoft takes over programming | Sep 19 01:41 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | then the fsf says | Sep 19 01:41 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | if you have the source code... | Sep 19 01:41 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | fuck the fsf, microsoft has the source code | Sep 19 01:41 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | and they control the languages | Sep 19 01:41 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | and the fsf sits with the thumbs in their arses | Sep 19 01:42 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | and oliva says but but but but but people have local copies | Sep 19 01:42 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | motherfucker, how does that matter | Sep 19 01:42 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | no one uses them | Sep 19 01:42 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | most people wont see them | Sep 19 01:42 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | and microsoft controls the languages themselves | Sep 19 01:43 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | so it doesnt matter if you have the source code | Sep 19 01:43 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | you dont control the fucking compilers | Sep 19 01:43 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | ibm controlls gcc | Sep 19 01:43 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | the whole thing is a fucking lie | Sep 19 01:43 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | now, openbsd doesnt solve all this | Sep 19 01:44 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | openbsd just happens to be somewhat in opposition to this | Sep 19 01:44 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | if you fuck with something they need, do they let you? | Sep 19 01:44 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | nope | Sep 19 01:44 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | if you fuck with something they need, the MIRROR AND FORK IT | Sep 19 01:44 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | if you fuck too much with X | Sep 19 01:44 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | they mirror and fork it | Sep 19 01:44 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | if they want to make real changes to gnu less (github) | Sep 19 01:45 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | they mirror and fork it | Sep 19 01:45 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | and the fsf sits with their thumbs in their arses | Sep 19 01:45 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | and oliva says BUT LOCAL COPIES! | Sep 19 01:45 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | fuck your local copies | Sep 19 01:45 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | who can use your local copies? | Sep 19 01:45 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | thats like saying if theres a population crisis (opposite of this one) because no ones breeding | Sep 19 01:45 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | and oliva says but but but masturbation | Sep 19 01:46 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | it doesnt work that way, man | Sep 19 01:46 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | freedom 3-- the freedom to have local copies | Sep 19 01:46 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | fuck you, oliva | Sep 19 01:46 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | if you arent distributing its not a solution! | Sep 19 01:46 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | /me is so tired of cheap ibm doublespeak from that fuck | Sep 19 01:46 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | i dont even care about oliva | Sep 19 01:47 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | i care about the fact that everyone is full of shit | Sep 19 01:47 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | and that oliva has no answers, but still pretends | Sep 19 01:47 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | that much i care about | Sep 19 01:47 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | local copies | Sep 19 01:47 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | stick them up your arse | Sep 19 01:47 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | openbsd cant solve everything | Sep 19 01:48 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | but at least they show how you fix it | Sep 19 01:48 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | MIRROR AND FORK | Sep 19 01:48 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | most things are "too big to fork" | Sep 19 01:48 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | okay, so if theyre not forkable | Sep 19 01:48 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | that means corporations control them | Sep 19 01:48 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | you cant | Sep 19 01:48 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | too big to fork | Sep 19 01:48 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | no freedom 3 then. | Sep 19 01:48 |
| starstreak | you have a different definition of "forkable" | Sep 19 01:49 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | no freedom 3, sooner or later the other freedoms erode | Sep 19 01:49 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | <starstreak> you have a different definition of "forkable" <- you can move mountains | Sep 19 01:49 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | they come with a license that says you can move them. | Sep 19 01:49 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | therefore theyre moveable. | Sep 19 01:49 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | go ahead. | Sep 19 01:49 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | i have a definition of forkable based on reality | Sep 19 01:49 |
| starstreak | gnome 2 got forked | Sep 19 01:49 |
| starstreak | you just need a team of people who care | Sep 19 01:50 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | gnome 2 is debateably forkable. | Sep 19 01:50 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | you just need a team of people who care <- aha! correct | Sep 19 01:50 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | and if you dont have that,,, | Sep 19 01:50 |
| starstreak | mate desktop | Sep 19 01:50 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | im a fan of mate | Sep 19 01:50 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | too bad its on github | Sep 19 01:50 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | but | Sep 19 01:50 |
| starstreak | lol | Sep 19 01:50 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | no, really | Sep 19 01:50 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | first, i liked mate when it was new. | Sep 19 01:50 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | second, i was pissed that debian fucked mate over | Sep 19 01:50 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | thats was dirty | Sep 19 01:50 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | years ago | Sep 19 01:50 |
| starstreak | how did debian fuck mate over? | Sep 19 01:51 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | third, i think the idea of mate is great! | Sep 19 01:51 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | gnome 3 is shit | Sep 19 01:51 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | so the idea of mate is this | Sep 19 01:51 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | people are unhappy that gnome abandoned them | Sep 19 01:51 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | gnome devs arent slaves (theyre corporate fuckboys... and fuckgirls) | Sep 19 01:51 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | so they dont have to maintain a good version of gnome | Sep 19 01:51 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | thats what mate is for | Sep 19 01:51 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | i LOVE This idea | Sep 19 01:51 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | same with trinity | Sep 19 01:51 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | i LOVE this idea | Sep 19 01:52 |
| starstreak | when gnome 3 first came out, it was horrible and I switched back to KDE 4.x | Sep 19 01:52 |
| CrystalMath | highest_cubist_thrills: it's called software freedom :) | Sep 19 01:52 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | i tried kde 4 | Sep 19 01:52 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | i wanted to LIKE kde 4 | Sep 19 01:52 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | kde 4 looked amazing | Sep 19 01:52 |
| CrystalMath | and the free market of ideas | Sep 19 01:52 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | unfortunate, since kde 3.5 ended, kde devs are a bunch of cunts | Sep 19 01:52 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | then they also joined the coup | Sep 19 01:52 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | kde isnt forkable either | Sep 19 01:52 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | but the reason i abandoned kde completely was gnew | Sep 19 01:53 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | i dont consider it free software even | Sep 19 01:53 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | free software gives you 4 freedoms | Sep 19 01:53 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | imo those 4 freedoms require a 5th | Sep 19 01:53 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | but unless kde is forkable | Sep 19 01:53 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | which it was | Sep 19 01:53 |
| MinceR | gnome 2 wasn't worth forking, it was already trash | Sep 19 01:53 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | kde 3.5 was the last free version of kde imo | Sep 19 01:53 |
| MinceR | and that's mate's problem | Sep 19 01:53 |
| CrystalMath | yeah, have you tried gnome 1? | Sep 19 01:53 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | <MinceR> gnome 2 wasn't worth forking, it was already trash <- as an opinion thats valid | Sep 19 01:53 |
| CrystalMath | was much better! | Sep 19 01:53 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | when i switched my wife to free software | Sep 19 01:53 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | gnome 2 was extremely helpful | Sep 19 01:54 |
| CrystalMath | there are elements of gnome 1 i simply copied | Sep 19 01:54 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | back then, i gave people gnome 2 if they wanted WINDOWS | Sep 19 01:54 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | if they wanted something lighter, i usually gave people lxde | Sep 19 01:54 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | if they wanted a compromise i gave xfce | Sep 19 01:54 |
| MinceR | well, windows embodies "modern"ity and gnome2 was already aspiring to it (by copying macos) | Sep 19 01:54 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | its nicely in between | Sep 19 01:54 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | its a moot point since the odds of mate surviving are small | Sep 19 01:55 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | but it will only survive if they can pull off a miracle | Sep 19 01:55 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | and if they can pull it off, thats worth considering when handing out respect | Sep 19 01:55 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | though its still github, so... | Sep 19 01:55 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | thats fixable too | Sep 19 01:55 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | but local copies arent progress | Sep 19 01:55 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | theyre a backup plan | Sep 19 01:55 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | while everything erodes | Sep 19 01:55 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | can mate actually be maintained while gnome goes to hell and takes distros with them | Sep 19 01:56 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | i dont know | Sep 19 01:56 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | is mate just going to becomes another vector for systemd eventually | Sep 19 01:56 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | i dont know | Sep 19 01:56 |
| starstreak | XD | Sep 19 01:56 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | this is the problem with the linux kernel | Sep 19 01:56 |
| mixling | if GNU-toolchain and buildsystem go to hell, then what? | Sep 19 01:56 |
| starstreak | gnome 43 *almost* made me switch to KDE | Sep 19 01:56 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | no really, the linux kernel | Sep 19 01:56 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | only counterpoint i know to that is alpine and im not sure of that | Sep 19 01:57 |
| mixling | it's all nice philosophy what you say though | Sep 19 01:57 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | alpine is probably the least stupid distro left | Sep 19 01:57 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | im not saying that to butter up ariadne | Sep 19 01:57 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | im saying it because a lot of stuff i say about gnu/linux, alpine TRIES to prove wrong | Sep 19 01:58 |
| mixling | depends how much you're willing or capable to compromise | Sep 19 01:58 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | will it succeed? | Sep 19 01:58 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | i dont know. but its probably the least stupid distro left | Sep 19 01:58 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | have i ever used it? no. do i want to? no | Sep 19 01:58 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | but i care about free software and i consider it relevant to all of this | Sep 19 01:58 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | as a potential counterpoint | Sep 19 01:58 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | we will see | Sep 19 01:58 |
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| highest_cubist_thrills | in the long run i doubt it can solve all this | Sep 19 01:59 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | i have ZERO faith in devuan | Sep 19 01:59 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | if you think devuan is a good idea, just use alpine | Sep 19 01:59 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | it has actual developers | Sep 19 01:59 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | devuan has wannabe maintainers | Sep 19 02:00 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | devuan devs are to debian maintainers what gospel music is to the music industry | Sep 19 02:00 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | people who couldnt cut it making the real thing who think theyre better because they have the truth-- yet they dont know what theyre talking about anyway | Sep 19 02:00 |
| mixling | i would give motif widget a try, if at all, at most, certainly not any version of GTK nor QT | Sep 19 02:01 |
| mixling | they're breaking their APIs every few days | Sep 19 02:01 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | they dont even have truth, theyre just ridiculous | Sep 19 02:01 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | it isnt lost on me that the music industry mostly turns out crap-- metaphor still works | Sep 19 02:01 |
| mixling | no c++, not a single line of it anywhere, another hint, to draw a demarcation line | Sep 19 02:02 |
| mixling | OpenBSD, puff, with llvm, gone it is | Sep 19 02:02 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | everything is a hostage or a cult | Sep 19 02:02 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | devuans a cult, debians a hostage, users are hostages | Sep 19 02:03 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | (debian is a cult too) | Sep 19 02:03 |
| mixling | i mean, it's OK, OpenBSD, if and only if a no-c++ system remained somewhere | Sep 19 02:03 |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3jInEVNJt8 | Sep 19 02:03 |
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| mixling | and all common systems, simply cannot roll-back and re-align, without loosing almost their entire user base and developers | Sep 19 02:04 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | mincer is a geek archetype | Sep 19 02:04 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | archetype | Sep 19 02:04 |
| mixling | very simple rule of thumb, no-c++ anywhere as either run-time nor build-time dependency, and see how far you'll get | Sep 19 02:05 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | /me never read the book, and jung was long dead | Sep 19 02:05 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | /me draws alicorn carl jung | Sep 19 02:05 |
| mixling | it's very easy to add it, c++, that's not the argument, gcc can be bootstrapped with tcc-toolchain, just fine | Sep 19 02:05 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | his horn can pierce through mysteries of human interaction | Sep 19 02:06 |
| mixling | however, just show me one single "distro", which was capable to remove c++ | Sep 19 02:06 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | mate is really a trial to see if gnome 2 is actually forkable | Sep 19 02:06 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | i still think thats a good idea. at least they try | Sep 19 02:06 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | noble cause. terrible location. | Sep 19 02:07 |
| MinceR | forking gnome 1 would have more sense | Sep 19 02:07 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | id rather a fork of gnome 1 | Sep 19 02:07 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | though tbh i think if you dont need gnome 2 you dont need the other one either | Sep 19 02:07 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | gnome 1 was FAST | Sep 19 02:07 |
| mixling | GTK1 attached to the flawed (my opinion) unicode implementation already | Sep 19 02:07 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | mate is probably pretty nice on most machines though | Sep 19 02:08 |
| mixling | motif widgets, didn't i think | Sep 19 02:08 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | like when everybody is running something 3x as slow | Sep 19 02:08 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | saying mate is slow is sort of technically true, and yet | Sep 19 02:08 |
| starstreak | highest_cubist_thrills, freebsd with mate used about 384mb ram | Sep 19 02:08 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | fair point! | Sep 19 02:08 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | that works | Sep 19 02:08 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | i got debian 7 running with fluxbox on a pentium 3, i think | Sep 19 02:09 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | wouldnt happen without swap | Sep 19 02:09 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | wasnt real nice to use | Sep 19 02:09 |
| mixling | an X11 typically launches with ~96MiB nowadays, the rest 300MiB, thats 300MiB for Desktop only with mate2 | Sep 19 02:10 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | but that might be a ridiculous standard to judge mate by | Sep 19 02:10 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | judging it by its performance on a pi 2 might not be | Sep 19 02:10 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | but im pretty sure a pi has 384mb ram | Sep 19 02:10 |
| starstreak | highest_cubist_thrills, arch + gnome uses about 2gb ram | Sep 19 02:11 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | gnome is an abomination | Sep 19 02:11 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | the developers should be kicked off the planet | Sep 19 02:11 |
| starstreak | lol | Sep 19 02:11 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | "good luck, bye" | Sep 19 02:11 |
| starstreak | i have 16GB of ram | Sep 19 02:11 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | i certainly dont | Sep 19 02:11 |
| MinceR | my pi1b has 512MB RAM | Sep 19 02:11 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | live and let live was fine, before gnome decided to help destroy everything in the history of free software | Sep 19 02:12 |
| starstreak | :/ | Sep 19 02:13 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | back then you could just say "gnome is kind of bloated, i recommend something better" | Sep 19 02:13 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | and that was all you had to say | Sep 19 02:13 |
| mixling | the total LoC with GNOME and all dependencies, what is it? add to this several dozens of millions of LoC for kernel and GNU-toolchain | Sep 19 02:13 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | now you have to hope they die soon and painfully | Sep 19 02:13 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | well you dont HAVE to | Sep 19 02:13 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | thats what war does... | Sep 19 02:13 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | maybe they shouldnt have declared it | Sep 19 02:13 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | im sorry putin, now you have to fucking die | Sep 19 02:14 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | its nothing personal, youre just a war criminal | Sep 19 02:14 |
| mixling | problem with motif widgets, those won't attract any user base nor developers anymore | Sep 19 02:15 |
| mixling | GNOME is much better than this | Sep 19 02:15 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | its funny because | Sep 19 02:15 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | after these people turn everything into a war | Sep 19 02:15 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | over pure bullshit and posturing | Sep 19 02:15 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | and you start playing their game | Sep 19 02:15 |
| MinceR | afaik application developers pretty much abandoned motif back when it was proprietary | Sep 19 02:16 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | NOW suddenly it matters that we be forgiving and PROPORTIONAL | Sep 19 02:16 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | was any of what happened over the past few years forgiving or proportional? | Sep 19 02:16 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | no, it was all out war and total destruction | Sep 19 02:16 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | systematic takeover and sabotage | Sep 19 02:16 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | but its only ok when they do it | Sep 19 02:16 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | if we stand up to that shit, suddenly its uncivilised | Sep 19 02:17 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | i think the only reason for that is they already made people tired of fighting | Sep 19 02:17 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | so now people just want to wave a white flag | Sep 19 02:17 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | nope | Sep 19 02:17 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | time for another nuremburg trial | Sep 19 02:17 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | its no good until ibm finally fucking swings | Sep 19 02:17 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | they did it | Sep 19 02:17 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | we let them go | Sep 19 02:18 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | its time to settle it | Sep 19 02:18 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | ibm should not fucking exist | Sep 19 02:18 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | the whole legacy needs to die like half the third reich did | Sep 19 02:19 |
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| mixling | another idea, since GNOME is opensource and free software, have fun compiling all this on a raspi2 | Sep 19 02:20 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | they fucking started it | Sep 19 02:20 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | they can be the end of it | Sep 19 02:20 |
| mixling | it's no fun on a raspi3 or raspi4 either, to do this, with "free software" | Sep 19 02:20 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | by being fucking ended | Sep 19 02:20 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | then if you want to punch some turd from the intellectual dark web and say youre fighting "nazis" sure | Sep 19 02:21 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | go ahead | Sep 19 02:21 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | but as long as ibm stands its a joke | Sep 19 02:21 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | after ibm, microsoft needs to die | Sep 19 02:21 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | the whole goddamned thing | Sep 19 02:21 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | projects on github can perish | Sep 19 02:21 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | save them while you can | Sep 19 02:21 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | "local copies" | Sep 19 02:22 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | :P | Sep 19 02:22 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | better than nothing, not that you can tell | Sep 19 02:22 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | heres what people dont fucking understand | Sep 19 02:22 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | until this happens, free software doesnt exist | Sep 19 02:22 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | its just sitting in a sort of purgatory | Sep 19 02:22 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | while the fsf sits with their thumbs in their arse | Sep 19 02:23 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | handing out c docs and replacing everyone in lieplanet with a glorified hall monitor like agent fucking smith | Sep 19 02:23 |
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| highest_cubist_thrills | /me watches bradley kuhn stick his finger on someones forehead and turn them into another copy of penfold from dangermouse | Sep 19 02:24 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | these people wont fix shit | Sep 19 02:24 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | theyre doing little mroe than laundering tax-free donations | Sep 19 02:24 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | what a fucking fraud | Sep 19 02:24 |
| mixling | i don't think so | Sep 19 02:25 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | "we fight for your freedom" | Sep 19 02:25 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | what is your freedom? your freedom is bending over and working for microsoft for free | Sep 19 02:25 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | we fight for your exploitation! | Sep 19 02:25 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | oh thanks, can i donate? | Sep 19 02:25 |
| mixling | that's true however | Sep 19 02:25 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | sure! help us bend you over and make you work for microsoft for free | Sep 19 02:26 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | join us today! | Sep 19 02:26 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | we cant say anything that offend our masters | Sep 19 02:26 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | your masters | Sep 19 02:26 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | join us now and enslave the developers | Sep 19 02:26 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | microsoft has lots of money, that is true, hackers that is true | Sep 19 02:27 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | but theyll save money if we do all their work for them | Sep 19 02:27 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | roy will say theyre hurting financially | Sep 19 02:27 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | that is true, hackers, that is true | Sep 19 02:27 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | but everyone happily does their bidding anyway | Sep 19 02:27 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | the beat doesnt even matter, they can hire someone to fix it for free | Sep 19 02:28 |
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| highest_cubist_thrills | have a free account! youre all working for us anyway | Sep 19 02:28 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | even gnu works for us! | Sep 19 02:29 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | ibm can sell gcc to microsoft | Sep 19 02:29 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | thatll be fun | Sep 19 02:29 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | LOCAL COPIES, OLIVA! | Sep 19 02:30 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | /me throws confetti | Sep 19 02:30 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | i realise that anyone talking about local copies is only talking about a first step | Sep 19 02:30 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | i dont get that though. if more steps are needed, why not mention that something has to be done with those copies? | Sep 19 02:31 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | why are we always talking about fixing 10% of the prob-- oh | Sep 19 02:31 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | yeah, thats why i call bullshit | Sep 19 02:31 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | no one wants more than 10% of the problem fixed | Sep 19 02:31 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | i mean 10% is progress | Sep 19 02:32 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | while the coup dumps another 20% into the abyss | Sep 19 02:32 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | americans understand this, its called the 2-party system | Sep 19 02:32 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | github are the republicans | Sep 19 02:32 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | fsf are the democrats | Sep 19 02:32 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | both work for the corporations | Sep 19 02:32 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | but the democrats are GOOD! | Sep 19 02:32 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | useless, but GOOD! | Sep 19 02:33 |
| mixling | good? how? | Sep 19 02:33 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | i know there are analogues in other parts of the world | Sep 19 02:33 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | america may have perfected a useless fake left party | Sep 19 02:33 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | but they dont hold a monopoly on the idea | Sep 19 02:33 |
| mixling | highest_cubist_thrills: how are those (US) "democrats" any good? | Sep 19 02:34 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | github are the republicans <- fsf are the democrats <- gnu is bi-partisan | Sep 19 02:34 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | its both fsf, AND github | Sep 19 02:34 |
| mixling | doesn't make any sense | Sep 19 02:35 |
| mixling | i tell you this: USA are evil | Sep 19 02:35 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | roy: wings are a distraction | Sep 19 02:36 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | yes, from the fact that the entire thing is bullshit | Sep 19 02:36 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | sfc is the green party :) but its specifically the people invading the green party on behalf of the fake left | Sep 19 02:36 |
| mixling | GAFAM, IBM Wintel ... all of them, USA | Sep 19 02:38 |
| MinceR | aggi worships orcs because they have no technology | Sep 19 02:39 |
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| highest_cubist_thrills | lol | Sep 19 02:40 |
| mixling | i think vis-editor, that's from Switzerland, lua Brazil, tcc-toolchain France | Sep 19 02:40 |
| mixling | notice something? | Sep 19 02:40 |
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| highest_cubist_thrills | when youre staring into the abyss, and mincer says something cynical, its typically funny as hell | Sep 19 02:40 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | set and setting | Sep 19 02:41 |
| mixling | it's not that challenging anymore, to be better than what USA does. | Sep 19 02:41 |
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| highest_cubist_thrills | i had a nice day | Sep 19 02:42 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | every favourite person in my world, i saw them all at once | Sep 19 02:42 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | i mean, usually ill see them days apart from each other | Sep 19 02:42 |
| MinceR | for states, it is indeed that challenging | Sep 19 02:42 |
| MinceR | because states suck hard | Sep 19 02:42 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | but today, somehow i mananged to bump into every single one | Sep 19 02:42 |
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| highest_cubist_thrills | im not even in a bad mood | Sep 19 02:43 |
| MinceR | states exemplify most if not all of the ways in which humanity sucks | Sep 19 02:43 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | i just hate that people have destroyed free software, and the fsf pretends to give a shit | Sep 19 02:43 |
| MinceR | they're led by sociopaths, they're authoritarian, they're entangled with evil corporations and cults | Sep 19 02:43 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | they're led by sociopaths, they're authoritarian, they're entangled with evil corporations and cults <- all of this | Sep 19 02:43 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | every word of it | Sep 19 02:43 |
| mixling | FSF=USA, SFC=USA... why would i give a shit about them? | Sep 19 02:44 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | and when youve spent more than a decade trying to give the world free software | Sep 19 02:44 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | and this is what these people do to it | Sep 19 02:44 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | theyre declaring war | Sep 19 02:44 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | the fsf doesnt fight for anything | Sep 19 02:44 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | theyre a fraud | Sep 19 02:44 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | theyre stalin during the nazi invasion of russia | Sep 19 02:45 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | DONT ATTACK THEM, THEY MIGHT FEEL PROVOKED! | Sep 19 02:45 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | but theyre killing us! | Sep 19 02:45 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | only a little bit! | Sep 19 02:45 |
| techrights-news | ✩░▒▓▆▅▃▂▁𝐁𝐔𝐋𝐋𝐄𝐓𝐈𝐍▁▂▃▅▆▓▒░✩ Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! 🅷🆃🆃🅿: http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-09-18.txt | 🅶🅴🅼🅸🅽🅸 gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-09-18.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now) | Sep 19 02:45 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | if you ignore them maybe theyll go away! | Sep 19 02:45 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | this isnt an endorsement of nazis, im saying we should destroy them | Sep 19 02:46 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | however, no one wants to fight | Sep 19 02:46 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | vichy free software (im not the only one to use this phrase, and its years old now) | Sep 19 02:47 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | (just to give an idea of how long this shit has been going on) | Sep 19 02:47 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | heil lennart | Sep 19 02:47 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | heil ibm | Sep 19 02:47 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | /me tapes mike godwins mouth | Sep 19 02:47 |
| mixling | IBM=USA .. for the record | Sep 19 02:48 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | /me draws a toothbrush moustache on him | Sep 19 02:48 |
| mixling | make no mistake, where this came from | Sep 19 02:48 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | systemd: githu | Sep 19 02:49 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | lennart: goes to work for microsoft | Sep 19 02:49 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | python: github | Sep 19 02:49 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | guido: goes to work for microsoft | Sep 19 02:49 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | php: github | Sep 19 02:49 |
| mixling | microsoft=USA | Sep 19 02:49 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | perl: github | Sep 19 02:49 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | c++ (boost libs, do they matter?): github | Sep 19 02:49 |
| MinceR | https://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-godwin-godwins-law-20180624-story.html | Sep 19 02:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.latimes.com | Do we need to update Godwin's Law about the probability of comparison to Nazis? - Los Angeles Times | Sep 19 02:49 | |
| highest_cubist_thrills | idk how important boost is | Sep 19 02:49 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | saying it doesnt apply to actual nazis is a copout | Sep 19 02:50 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | the whole thing was fucking stupid | Sep 19 02:50 |
| MinceR | humans in general are fucking stupid | Sep 19 02:50 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | mike godwin is the worlds most useless philosopher-- after herr doktor | Sep 19 02:50 |
| MinceR | and most of the things humans say are fucking stupid | Sep 19 02:50 |
| MinceR | so what's surprising about it? | Sep 19 02:50 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | nothing when youre cynical, man | Sep 19 02:50 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | thats why people are cynical, they get tired of feeling surprised | Sep 19 02:51 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | so they just go "i told you so" | Sep 19 02:51 |
| MinceR | or they stop being surprised | Sep 19 02:51 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | yep | Sep 19 02:51 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | well you cant blame them if theyre right, right? | Sep 19 02:51 |
| MinceR | first we're exposed to humans' propaganda about themselves | Sep 19 02:51 |
| MinceR | and then we learn what humans really are like | Sep 19 02:51 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | javascript (npm): github | Sep 19 02:52 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | mozilla / rust: both github | Sep 19 02:52 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | chrome: idk, who cares | Sep 19 02:52 |
| mixling | i don't | Sep 19 02:52 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | /ium | Sep 19 02:52 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | mozilla and rust mentioned as you need something that runs javascript for it to work | Sep 19 02:53 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | and it was originally created for browsers | Sep 19 02:53 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | specifically the one that eventually became mozilla | Sep 19 02:53 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | awk is free :) | Sep 19 02:54 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | steel bank common lisp is free | Sep 19 02:54 |
| MinceR | chromium is at googlesource | Sep 19 02:54 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | idk about lisp libraries, quite a few are hostages on github | Sep 19 02:55 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | chromium is at googlesource <- not great but hey, not github | Sep 19 02:55 |
| MinceR | at least they didn't capitulate entirely to MICROS~1 | Sep 19 02:55 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | right | Sep 19 02:55 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | github.com/google still exists | Sep 19 02:55 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | but maybe they just like holding it | Sep 19 02:55 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | im sure theres something useful there | Sep 19 02:55 |
| MinceR | could be a mirror | Sep 19 02:55 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | like one of the libs that goes into gnu wget :) | Sep 19 02:55 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | could be a mirror <- i never count it as a mirror if there are pull requests | Sep 19 02:56 |
| mixling | toybox isn't on github | Sep 19 02:56 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | i know you cant turn them off | Sep 19 02:56 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | you can say "please dont use them" and close them though | Sep 19 02:56 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | so when they dont say that, and there are loads of pull requests, its not a mirror (imo) | Sep 19 02:56 |
| MinceR | how do you prevent people from mirroring your repo on a site that allows pull requests and doesn't allow turning them off? | Sep 19 02:56 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | you cant prevent people from mirroring your repo if the license is free. | Sep 19 02:56 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | of course i account for that | Sep 19 02:57 |
| MinceR | they could even allow turning them off, they're managed by whoever's running the mirror | Sep 19 02:57 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | im told its not possible to turn off | Sep 19 02:57 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | if it is, thats just one more layer of bullshit | Sep 19 02:57 |
| MinceR | also, a fork of your project could exist on shithub and take pull requests | Sep 19 02:57 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | i account for forks | Sep 19 02:57 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | but if your project is inactive and the "fork" is on github | Sep 19 02:57 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | guess what | Sep 19 02:57 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | the project is github-based | Sep 19 02:58 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | i mean | Sep 19 02:58 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | we can find 100 ways to say that a project hasnt moved to github | Sep 19 02:58 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | but if it has, then it counts. | Sep 19 02:58 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | i account for instances of projects not being github-based | Sep 19 02:58 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | for example, openbsd is definitely not github based | Sep 19 02:58 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | its a true mirror, for people who wonder what a true mirror looks like | Sep 19 02:58 |
| mixling | they're still using CVS, lol | Sep 19 02:58 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | maybe someday every project will be taken over by github | Sep 19 02:58 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | then our only metric will be | Sep 19 02:59 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | who held out the most, the longest | Sep 19 02:59 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▂▁▃▆▅▆▁▂▂▇▁▆▃▇▇▅▂▃▄▁▂▂▃▆▅▇▆▁▅▃▁▁▁ avg(k/sec) 15.76 ▕ IPFS upstream: ███▂▁▁▂██▁▂█▁▁▂▁▂▁▃▁▅█▁▁▁▁█▁▂▁█▁▁ avg(k/sec) 167.56▕ swarm size (avg): 136.18 ⟲ | Sep 19 02:59 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | bvut according to roy microsoft wont exist by then, because layoffs nyan | Sep 19 02:59 |
| mixling | "take-over" implies github is an exclusive transfer, that's not how git works | Sep 19 02:59 |
| MinceR | by your metric, all someone needs to do to make you not want to use openbsd is mirror it on shithub and add 2 pull requests | Sep 19 02:59 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | i literally just addressed that one moment ago | Sep 19 03:00 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | maybe someday every project will be taken over by github | Sep 19 03:00 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | then our only metric will be | Sep 19 03:00 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | who held out the most, the longest | Sep 19 03:00 |
| MinceR | i doubt it | Sep 19 03:00 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | if you can come up with better metrics than mine for determining github takeover | Sep 19 03:00 |
| MinceR | i have a few bits of code on codeberg and i'm not going to move them to shithub | Sep 19 03:00 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | i dont own the idea | Sep 19 03:00 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | i have a few bits of code on codeberg and i'm not going to move them to shithub <- and openbsd is based on cvs | Sep 19 03:01 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | and they like cvs | Sep 19 03:01 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | and people are like-- could you please blow bill gates | Sep 19 03:01 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | and theo is like-- we dont do that | Sep 19 03:01 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | and roy is like aha! but they took money! | Sep 19 03:01 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | mmhmm | Sep 19 03:01 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | show me where they compromised. | Sep 19 03:01 |
| mixling | *BSD? with llvm. | Sep 19 03:02 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | now hold other projects up to the same standard you hold openbsd to. | Sep 19 03:02 |
| MinceR | maybe with a hot air blower | Sep 19 03:02 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | maybe with a cannon | Sep 19 03:02 |
| MinceR | or hot air gun | Sep 19 03:02 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ☞ Gemini requests since start of month: 137640 total • Total number of pages in capsule: 42643 • Active: active (running) since Thu 2022-08-04 09:15:14 BST; 1 months 15 days ago | Sep 19 03:02 |
| MinceR | do cannons blow? | Sep 19 03:02 |
| MinceR | oh, they do | Sep 19 03:02 |
| MinceR | maybe with C4 | Sep 19 03:02 |
| mixling | using llvm as compile, as far as i am concerned, they could move to rust-lang. | Sep 19 03:02 |
| mixling | r | Sep 19 03:02 |
| MinceR | i'd blow gAIDS... up. | Sep 19 03:02 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | look up "blown from a gun" on wikipedia | Sep 19 03:02 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | it was an execution method | Sep 19 03:02 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | pretty barbaric | Sep 19 03:02 |
| MinceR | :) | Sep 19 03:03 |
| MinceR | barbaric is a good fit for humans, and especially for gAIDS | Sep 19 03:03 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | and explode into space... | Sep 19 03:03 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ☞ IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated. TotalIn: 44 GB • TotalOut: 12 GB | Sep 19 03:03 |
| mixling | it's ironic, BillG required 40years(!) to release his basic-interpreter, on github, 2020 | Sep 19 03:04 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | https://yewtu.be/watch?v=YqeW9_5kURI | Sep 19 03:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Major Lazer & DJ Snake - Lean On (feat. MØ) (Official Music Video) - Invidious | Sep 19 03:04 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ☞ New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled. | Sep 19 03:04 |
| mixling | by that measrure, BillG himself resisted longest already | Sep 19 03:04 |
| MinceR | lol | Sep 19 03:05 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | :> | Sep 19 03:05 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | shes ridiculous but the guys are awesome | Sep 19 03:06 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | dj snake, major lazer | Sep 19 03:06 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | they can wear a kurta like they were born in it | Sep 19 03:07 |
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| highest_cubist_thrills | actually i think only one of them is wearing a kurta | Sep 19 03:08 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | sad | Sep 19 03:12 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | MØ - LEAN ON - The 2015 Nobel Peace Prize Concert | Sep 19 03:12 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | "nobel peace prize" | Sep 19 03:12 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | "name a prize thats more of a farce than than free software award" | Sep 19 03:12 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | we should call it the nobel peace software award | Sep 19 03:13 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | 2023 nobel peace software award goes to | Sep 19 03:13 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | nat friedman | Sep 19 03:13 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | (posthumous) thomas watson for his incredible work on the german sorting machines | Sep 19 03:15 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | and herr doktor, for contributions to imaginary alt-right gnu/linux distributions | Sep 19 03:15 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | (winner 2022 award from the sixel foundation) | Sep 19 03:16 |
| mixling | detangling as much as possible of "free software" from Satan (USA), is pride enough to take | Sep 19 03:17 |
| mixling | it is well prepared, and progressed very far already | Sep 19 03:18 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | GE partnered with German manufacturing firm Krupp to help build Hitler's army and used Jewish slave labor to build gas chambers during World War II and the Holocaust. The U.S. Government fined GE for working with the Nazis, but the American company continued to profit off of the War. | Sep 19 03:18 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | https://yewtu.be/watch?v=H5ZLbwvQ1Ec | Sep 19 03:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | BEAUTIFUL VINTAGE 80'S GE COMMERCIAL WE BRING GOOD THINGS TO LIGHT LIFE - Invidious | Sep 19 03:19 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-18.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-19.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Sep 19 03:20 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | "ge is light-- warm and bright!" | Sep 19 03:20 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | "we bring good things to life!" | Sep 19 03:20 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | we also kill people with gas chambers | Sep 19 03:20 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | we sometimes use jewish slave labour | Sep 19 03:21 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | general electric, i think originally general edison? | Sep 19 03:22 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | edison bffs with ford, who LOOOOOVED hitler | Sep 19 03:22 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | "dont mention the war! i mentioned it a couple times but i think i got away with it" | Sep 19 03:23 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | ge is light! like aryan skin! | Sep 19 03:23 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | we let good people live! | Sep 19 03:23 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | unless theyre political opponents of the fuhrer | Sep 19 03:24 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | hello sir, what is your name | Sep 19 03:24 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | "henry ford" | Sep 19 03:24 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | oh! the car maker. and you are an actual nazi? | Sep 19 03:24 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | "no! i just really like hitler" | Sep 19 03:24 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | oh, well, off you go then! | Sep 19 03:24 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | mike godwin: ACTUAL NAZIS | Sep 19 03:25 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | leave henry ford alone | Sep 19 03:25 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | mike godwin: the worlds most unintentional nazi apologist | Sep 19 03:26 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | (no intention whatsoever) | Sep 19 03:26 |
| MinceR | aryan skin isn't even light | Sep 19 03:26 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | thats the funny part | Sep 19 03:26 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | well, that and we beheaded stallman BEFORE bothering with ibm and ge | Sep 19 03:26 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | ge made computers too yknow | Sep 19 03:26 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | MULTICS | Sep 19 03:27 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | they were involved in timesharing before unix, even before multics | Sep 19 03:27 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | dtss: 1964 | Sep 19 03:27 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | that was ge | Sep 19 03:27 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | i mean i dont know if they worked on a single line of code | Sep 19 03:28 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | they provided the hardware | Sep 19 03:28 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | everybody made computers in the 60s | Sep 19 03:29 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | mcdonalds had the McIAC | Sep 19 03:29 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | hershey made the BAR computer with almonds | Sep 19 03:29 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | coca cola had the fanta-matic | Sep 19 03:29 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | which failed to get a contract because of dehomag | Sep 19 03:30 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | fanta-matic was a complete failure | Sep 19 03:30 |
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| techrights-news | Rockstar Games Hacked, GTA 6 Gameplay Leaked - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=XWUl25w1iH8 | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/XWUl25w1iH8 | Sep 19 03:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Rockstar Games Hacked, GTA 6 Gameplay Leaked - Invidious | Sep 19 03:34 | |
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| highest_cubist_thrills | https://yewtu.be/watch?v=ny1J-0q-NAE we dont make gas chambers anymore! so buy our new blender from the store! | Sep 19 03:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | GE Blender Commercial (1950's) - Invidious | Sep 19 03:35 | |
| highest_cubist_thrills | all our products are really great, unlike the ones used to exterminate! | Sep 19 03:36 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | with our new blender you cant lose, this one wasnt made by enslaved jews! | Sep 19 03:37 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | i like this because this was only like a decade later | Sep 19 03:38 |
| techrights-news | "Josh and Kurt talk about the Time Till Open Source Alternative blog post. The numbers probably don’t mean what we think they mean anymore. A lot of modern open source is really corporate controlled. Just because something carries an open source license doesn’t mean you can contribute to it." https://opensourcesecurity.io/2022/09/18/episode-341-time-till-open-source-alternative/ | Sep 19 03:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensourcesecurity.io | Episode 341 – Time till open source alternative – Open Source Security | Sep 19 03:38 | |
| highest_cubist_thrills | "should we mention hitler in the jingle?" | Sep 19 03:39 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | "no! no, our market research shows hitler is DEFINITELY yesterdays news! just say the blender is great" | Sep 19 03:39 |
| techrights-news | AI Image Upscaling Made Easy With Upscayl - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=zYw69zWVk9k | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/zYw69zWVk9k | Sep 19 03:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | AI Image Upscaling Made Easy With Upscayl - Invidious | Sep 19 03:40 | |
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| techrights-news | After changing copyright assignment (for IBM et al to control GCC at the community’s expense) Mark J. Wielaard, who repeatedly tried to oust the FSF’s founder from the FSF (and GNU), is turning to the SFC, a greedy corporation that censors IBM critics while it also tries to undermine the FSF (Moglen/SFLC already sued the SFC) http://techrights.org/2022/09/18/mark-j-wielaard-and-sourceware/ | Sep 19 03:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | ‘Splinter Group’ SFC (Already Sued by Moglen/SFLC) is Not Really Against Microsoft GitHub, It Helps IBM/Red Hat Outsource GNU to GitHub Using the Same Excuses Microsoft Used When Lobbying for Kernel.org to Move to Proprietary GitHub | Techrights | Sep 19 03:41 | |
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| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Linux 6.0-rc6 ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/19/Linux_6_0_rc6.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/19/Linux_6_0_rc6.gmi ∎ | Sep 19 03:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Linux 6.0-rc6 | Sep 19 03:43 | |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Review: Porteus 5.0 ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/19/Review_Porteus_5_0.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/19/Review_Porteus_5_0.gmi ∎ | Sep 19 03:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Review: Porteus 5.0 | Sep 19 03:43 | |
| techrights-news | Geico told me I was a very safe driver and proceeded to raise my six month premium by over $150. | BaronHK’s Rants ⚓ https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/09/18/geico-told-me-i-was-a-very-safe-driver-and-proceeded-to-raise-my-six-month-premium-by-over-150/ ䷉ Source: DaemonFC (Ryan Farmer) | Sep 19 03:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Geico told me I was a very safe driver and proceeded to raise my six month premium by over $150. | BaronHK's Rants | Sep 19 03:45 | |
| highest_cubist_thrills | doctors <3 smoking! https://yewtu.be/watch?v=IFrkSiCvBo0 | Sep 19 03:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | 10 Commercials from the 40s - Invidious | Sep 19 03:48 | |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): MX-21.2.1 'Wildflower' released! ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/19/MX_21_2_1_Wildflower_released.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/19/MX_21_2_1_Wildflower_released.gmi ∎ | Sep 19 03:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — MX-21.2.1 'Wildflower' released! | Sep 19 03:49 | |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Videos and Shows: Upscayl, Open Source Security, and More ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/19/Videos_and_Shows_Upscayl_Open_Source_Security_and_More.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/19/Videos_and_Shows_Upscayl_Open_Source_Security_and_More.gmi ∎ | Sep 19 03:49 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | you know even if that case can handle falls like that | Sep 19 03:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Videos and Shows: Upscayl, Open Source Security, and More | Sep 19 03:49 | |
| highest_cubist_thrills | i doubt the components liked it | Sep 19 03:49 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | non-breakable solder points! | Sep 19 03:50 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | sure okay | Sep 19 03:50 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | bang it on the counter a few more times | Sep 19 03:50 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | lets see how it works | Sep 19 03:50 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | 6 whiz wrappers | Sep 19 03:51 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | they wouldnt see another whiz rapper until r kelly | Sep 19 03:52 |
| techrights-news | The fog of war and the small-net search engines gemini://szczezuja.space/gemlog/2022-04-22-The-fog-of-war-and-the-smallnets-search-engines.gmi | Sep 19 03:52 |
| techrights-news | "I’ve noticed quite a few shell scripts recently that claim to be POSIX-compliant despite using mktemp, so I wanted to go over a compliant alternative and a few things you should know about writing POSIX shell (#!/bin/sh) scripts." gemini://dj-chase.com/documents/mktemp-isnt-posix.gmi | Sep 19 03:53 |
| techrights-news | Billsmugs's Photography: Photos (13) uploaded gemini://gem.billsmugs.com/photos/2022-09-18/ | Sep 19 03:54 |
| techrights-news | "If you're a Doom Emacs user and you try using Elpher for the first time, you might get timeouts whenever you try to visit Gemini URLs, even if visiting Gopher/Finger URLs still works as expected. At least, that's what happened when I first tried." gemini://madeleine.flounder.online/gemlog/2022-09-18-doom-emacs-elpher-gemini-timeouts.gmi | Sep 19 03:54 |
| techrights-news | Allotment gemini://ur.gs/blog/allotment/ | Sep 19 03:55 |
| techrights-news | "There is no ETA yet. I have local copies of all the list traffic so nothing is likely to have been lost forever." Except 10 months later it's still not back. gemini://gemini.circumlunar.space/~solderpunk/gemlog/gemini-mailing-list-down.gmi | Sep 19 03:56 |
| techrights-news | [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D358.jpg | Sep 19 03:56 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | 2:35 https://yewtu.be/watch?v=k4IpNvMbUaU | Sep 19 03:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | 15 Most Offensive Vintage Advertisements Ever - Invidious | Sep 19 03:57 | |
| highest_cubist_thrills | sega had a commercial with a guy using a joystick in a pretty non-standard way | Sep 19 03:57 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | that said "THE MORE YOU PLAY WITH IT, THE HARDER IT GETS!" | Sep 19 03:58 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | i definitely missed this one | Sep 19 03:58 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | oh theres more text in that one... | Sep 19 03:58 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | i wonder where that ran | Sep 19 03:59 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▁▂▁▇▃▆▅▇▁▇▄▃▂▄▃▃▁▂▂▃▅▁▅▄▅▃▅▇▅▁▄▅▆▁▁▁ avg(k/sec) 19.61 ▕ IPFS upstream: ██▁▂█▁▁▂▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▂▇▁▂▁▇█▁▁▁▂▁██▁▁██▁ avg(k/sec) 76.21▕ swarm size (avg): 149.28 ⟲ | Sep 19 03:59 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | the entire concept was "playing sega is exactly like jerking off" | Sep 19 03:59 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | no mention of being in your parents basement though | Sep 19 04:00 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | then they did again with game gear :) | Sep 19 04:00 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | motorola had a campaign that educated people "HOW TELEVISON BENEFITS YOUR CHILDREN" | Sep 19 04:02 |
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| techrights-news | "There are a lot of articles and documentation pages explaining how to use Mock but I am hesitant to share them with new Fedora packagers because they make the tool look much scarier than it actually is. Using Mock is easy!" http://frostyx.cz/posts/using-mock-is-easy | Sep 19 04:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Using Mock is easy | FrostyX.cz | Sep 19 04:03 | |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Weekly GNU-like Mobile Linux Update (37/2022): libadwaita 1.2, Sxmo 1.11.1 and much more ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/19/Weekly_GNU_like_Mobile_Linux_Update_37_2022_libadwaita_1_2_Sxmo.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/19/Weekly_GNU_like_Mobile_Linux_Update_37_2022_libadwaita_1_2_Sxmo.gmi ∎ | Sep 19 04:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Weekly GNU-like Mobile Linux Update (37/2022): libadwaita 1.2, Sxmo 1.11.1 and much more | Sep 19 04:05 | |
| techrights-news | #Techrights Bulletin for Sunday, September 18, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext | Sep 19 04:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives | Sep 19 04:05 | |
| techrights-news | #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing | Sep 19 04:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index | Sep 19 04:05 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | highest_cubist_thrills: tunnelvision benefits your children | Sep 19 04:06 |
| schestowitz[TR] | http://www.atlasobscura.com/places/tunnelvision | Sep 19 04:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.atlasobscura.com | Tunnelvision – Columbia, South Carolina - Atlas Obscura | Sep 19 04:07 | |
| highest_cubist_thrills | Boy who ran neo-Nazi cell from gran's cottage aged 13 becomes UK's ... | Sep 19 04:08 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | www.thesun.co.uk/news/uknews/13913264/britains-youngest-terrorist-cornwall-neo-nazi/ | Sep 19 04:08 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | A BOY who ran a neo-Nazi cell from his gran's Cornish cottage when he was just 13 has today become the UK's youngest convicted terrorist | Sep 19 04:08 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | https://besacenter.org/ibm-holocaust/ | Sep 19 04:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-besacenter.org | IBM and the Holocaust | Sep 19 04:09 | |
| highest_cubist_thrills | lol | Sep 19 04:10 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | www.foxnews.com/politics/nazis-and-anti-semites-slip-through-gop-primaries-causing-headaches-for-party | Sep 19 04:10 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | 'The Illinois Republican Party and our country have no place for Nazis.' — Tim Schneider, chairman of the Illinois GOP. The Illinois GOP missed the deadline last month to allow them to run a ... | Sep 19 04:10 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | no idea what date | Sep 19 04:10 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | EXECUTIVE SUMMARY: Twenty years ago last week, IBM and the Holocaust, exposed—backed up by a tower of documentation— that IBM knowingly organized all six phases of the Holocaust: identification, exclusion, confiscation, ghettoization, deportation, and even extermination. All of this occurred under the micromanagement of IBM’s celebrated CEO, Thomas Watson, Sr., | Sep 19 04:11 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | IBM knowingly organized all six phases of the Holocaust: identification, exclusion, confiscation, ghettoization, deportation, and even extermination. | Sep 19 04:11 |
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| highest_cubist_thrills | you gotta wonder if they organised all six phases of the coup | Sep 19 04:12 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | roy: failed coup | Sep 19 04:12 |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): AMD Brings Ray Tracing Support In Its Open-Source Vulkan Graphics Drivers For RDNA 2 GPUs In Linux ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/19/AMD_Brings_Ray_Tracing_Support_In_Its_Open_Source_Vulkan_Graphi.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/19/AMD_Brings_Ray_Tracing_Support_In_Its_Open_Source_Vulkan_Graphi.gmi ∎ | Sep 19 04:12 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | also roy: some guy from red hat trying to tell you how gcc works | Sep 19 04:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — AMD Brings Ray Tracing Support In Its Open-Source Vulkan Graphics Drivers For RDNA 2 GPUs In Linux | Sep 19 04:12 | |
| highest_cubist_thrills | treating official docs like legacy info | Sep 19 04:13 |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Weekly Roundups and Linux Around The World ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/19/Weekly_Roundups_and_Linux_Around_The_World.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/19/Weekly_Roundups_and_Linux_Around_The_World.gmi ∎ | Sep 19 04:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Weekly Roundups and Linux Around The World | Sep 19 04:13 | |
| highest_cubist_thrills | heres a quote | Sep 19 04:13 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | "Without IBM, there would still have been a Holocaust killing hundreds of thousands. " | Sep 19 04:13 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | hundreds of thousands... | Sep 19 04:13 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | vs millions | Sep 19 04:13 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | IBM: the information people! | Sep 19 04:14 |
| schestowitz[TR] | ww2 killed tens of millions | Sep 19 04:14 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | Einsatzgruppen murder squads and their militia cohorts would still have murdered East European Jews bullet by bullet in pits, ravines, and isolated clearings in the woods. But it was IBM that helped the Third Reich create the industrial, high-speed, six million-victims Holocaust | Sep 19 04:14 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | metering ghetto residents out to trains, then carefully scheduling the moving of those trains to concentration camps for mass murder and cremation within hours, clearing the way for the next shipment of victims, day and night. | Sep 19 04:14 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | BIG DATA | Sep 19 04:14 |
| schestowitz[TR] | BDM | Sep 19 04:15 |
| schestowitz[TR] | big data machines | Sep 19 04:15 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | Custom IBM programs controlled the census and registration processes, organized the pauperization of the Jews, and ensured that the trains ran on time. | Sep 19 04:15 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | lucky for them the trains didnt run systemd | Sep 19 04:15 |
| schestowitz[TR] | systemd timers | Sep 19 04:15 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | There was an IBM customer site—the Hollerith Abteilung—in almost every concentration camp, | Sep 19 04:15 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | IBM even engineered Germany’s odious extermination- by-labor campaign, where skills were matched to slave labor needs and Jews were called up to be worked to death. | Sep 19 04:16 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | theyre still really good at overworking their "employees" | Sep 19 04:16 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | IBM’s code for a Jewish inmate was “6” and its code for gas chamber was “8.” | Sep 19 04:16 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | to IBM, the Holocaust was just another business project. | Sep 19 04:17 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | Watson, a sociopath and narcissist lacking any moral compass, was no stranger to crime in pursuit of his business aims. He had been convicted of extortion in the infamous National Cash Register scandal before he was ever handed the reins of IBM. An evidence technicality allowed his conviction to be overturned and Watson to escape prison time. | Sep 19 04:17 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | How did IBM get involved? When Hitler came to power, he wanted to locate and destroy the Jews of Germany, Europe, and the world. That required the resources of a computer, but in 1933, no such computer existed | Sep 19 04:18 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | The IBM alliance with the Third Reich was no rogue corporate operation run out of a basement. Day in and day out, it was Watson who personally micromanaged all aspects of the 12-year Nazi relationship. | Sep 19 04:19 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | Under Watson, IBM eagerly contacted the Hitler regime and made clear that it was “the solutions company.” | Sep 19 04:19 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | ibm: the final solutions company | Sep 19 04:19 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | systemd: the final solution to debian | Sep 19 04:19 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-18.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-19.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Sep 19 04:20 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | The first thing Hitler wanted to know was exactly how many Jews resided in Germany. IBM hired thousands to execute a door-to-door racial census. | Sep 19 04:20 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | Hitler wanted to know was exactly how many Jews resided in Germany | Sep 19 04:20 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | IBM hired thousands to execute a door-to-door racial census | Sep 19 04:20 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | ibm went DOOR TO DOOR to LOCATE JEWS | Sep 19 04:20 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | thats one i had not heard. | Sep 19 04:20 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | Those trains ran on IBM punch cards, and owed their punctual timetables to special IBM scheduling programs. All the work and prisoner data from all the concentration camps was fed into a central nerve center in the T-Building at Oranienburg known as Section D-II and powered by custom-wired IBM machines. | Sep 19 04:21 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | Everything IBM did was custom, specific, and tailored to the Nazis’ specific needs. | Sep 19 04:21 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | All IBM machines in Nazi Europe were leased, with monthly payments. They were insured by American and German insurance companies at their Reich locations and serviced by repairmen twice monthly on-site, whether the noisy, syncopating machines were located in downtown Berlin or at Auschwitz | Sep 19 04:21 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | in downtown Berlin <- IBM FSFE | Sep 19 04:22 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | Hollerith machines were incapable of operating without IBM’s custom punch cards, and each card could be used only once. Without a continuing card supply from IBM, the machines would have been like rifles without bullets. | Sep 19 04:22 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | reminds me of rust | Sep 19 04:22 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | "compile once and rewrite" | Sep 19 04:23 |
| techrights-news | No, I won't mow my lawn gemini://lasse.nerdcamp.net/gemlog/20220703.gmi | Sep 19 04:23 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | In the 20 years since IBM and the Holocaust was published, IBM has never asked for a single change to the text nor rebutted a single fact. | Sep 19 04:23 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | Today, fear of what big tech can do to surveil, censor, and control our lives—from China to California—has heightened interest in the book and its revelations. The connection is clear. To get a glimpse into our perilous future, we need only look back at what IBM helped Hitler do during the Holocaust, in the era before computers existed. What could a Hitler-type regime do today | Sep 19 04:23 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | FSF: contribute to ibm gcc! | Sep 19 04:24 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | FSF: a subsidiary of IBM | Sep 19 04:24 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | stallman is the chief sonderkommando of the gnu project | Sep 19 04:25 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | the sonderkommanden were the prisoners who had to sweep the ashes of the dead | Sep 19 04:26 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | not nazis-- prisoners | Sep 19 04:26 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | they also put the sonderkommanden in charge of pulling gold teeth out of corpses | Sep 19 04:26 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | knowing pretty well their fate, being mired in it | Sep 19 04:26 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | thank red hat for all of this | Sep 19 04:27 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | if red hat gave a shit about freedom they would all resign | Sep 19 04:27 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | (and not to go work for microsoft, ANOTHER subsidiary of ibm) | Sep 19 04:28 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | when people leave ibm to work for microsoft, thats like when the catholic church moves a disgraced cardinal to another diocese | Sep 19 04:28 |
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| highest_cubist_thrills | It is also worth asking why a company like IBM chose to participate in genocide. It was never about Nazism; it was never about antisemitism. It was about money. ”Business” is, after all, the company’s middle name. | Sep 19 04:29 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | the final $olution | Sep 19 04:30 |
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| techrights-news | Celebrating monarchy in 2022 is not compatible with any celebrations of democracy in Western 'civilised' societies | Sep 19 04:53 |
| techrights-news | "Note ‘person’ here – even though the legislation calls it an industry code, application of the code isn’t restricted to commercial bodies or those of a certain size – the codes, once registered, apply to all people who provide the relevant services" https://www.mnot.net/blog/2022/09/11/esafety-industry-codes | Sep 19 04:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mnot.net | A Safer, More Centralised Australian Internet | Sep 19 04:53 | |
| techrights-news | My Blog is Hilariously Overengineered to the Point People Think it's a Static Site https://xeiaso.net/talks/how-my-website-works | Sep 19 04:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xeiaso.net | My Blog is Hilariously Overengineered to the Point People Think it's a Static Site - Xe | Sep 19 04:55 | |
| techrights-news | "Much has been written about the consequences this reactionary attitude has had on the public accessibility of the scholarship these societies have been publishing. Here, I would like to speculate on perhaps much more pernicious consequences." http://bjoern.brembs.net/2022/09/scholarly-societies-partly-to-blame-for-post-truth-age/ | Sep 19 04:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bjoern.brembs.net | bjoern.brembs.blog » Scholarly societies partly to blame for post-truth age? | Sep 19 04:55 | |
| techrights-news | Who controls your data online? Hint: it’s not you! ⚓ https://michaelwest.com.au/who-controls-your-data-online-hint-its-not-you/ ䷉ Source: Michael West Media | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//michaelwest.com.au/who-controls-your-data-online-hint-its-not-you/ | Sep 19 04:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-michaelwest.com.au | Who controls your data online? Hint: it's not you! | Sep 19 04:56 | |
| techrights-news | Time for Australia to be the friend the Pacific needs - Michael West ⚓ https://michaelwest.com.au/time-for-australia-to-be-the-friend-the-pacific-needs/ ䷉ Source: Michael West Media | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//michaelwest.com.au/time-for-australia-to-be-the-friend-the-pacific-needs/ | Sep 19 04:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-michaelwest.com.au | Time for Australia to be the friend the Pacific needs - Michael West | Sep 19 04:56 | |
| techrights-news | Workers’ share of the national income pie falls to all-time low - Michael West ⚓ https://michaelwest.com.au/workers-share-of-the-national-income-pie-falls-to-all-time-low/ ䷉ Source: Michael West Media | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//michaelwest.com.au/workers-share-of-the-national-income-pie-falls-to-all-time-low/ | Sep 19 04:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-michaelwest.com.au | Workers’ share of the national income pie falls to all-time low - Michael West | Sep 19 04:58 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▁▅▃▅▅▇▇▁▃▂▁▂▂▅▅▁▃▂▁▄▅▂▂▇▂▅▅▅▆▂▆▁ avg(k/sec) 16.73 ▕ IPFS upstream: ██▁▁█▁▁▂█▁█▂██▁▁█▁██▁▁▁▁▂▁▁▁▁█▁▁ avg(k/sec) 122.21▕ swarm size (avg): 140.51 ⟲ | Sep 19 04:59 |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Arduino and Other Boards ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/19/Arduino_and_Other_Boards.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/19/Arduino_and_Other_Boards.gmi ∎ | Sep 19 05:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Arduino and Other Boards | Sep 19 05:14 | |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Axel Beckert: wApua 0.06.4 released ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/19/Axel_Beckert_wApua_0_06_4_released.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/19/Axel_Beckert_wApua_0_06_4_released.gmi ∎ | Sep 19 05:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Axel Beckert: wApua 0.06.4 released | Sep 19 05:14 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-18.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-19.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Sep 19 05:20 |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Today's 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 HowTos ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/19/today_s_howtos.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/19/today_s_howtos.gmi ∎ | Sep 19 05:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — today's howtos | Sep 19 05:21 | |
| techrights-news | 10 Years ago. They say if it lasts the first 10 years, then it’ll last a lifetime. Hopefully. https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/09/19/anniversary-post-roy-and-rianne/ | Sep 19 05:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » 10 Years | Sep 19 05:22 | |
| techrights-news | "It is among the most common of human yearnings: the desire to see oneself as special and distinct from the herd. Individualism, coupled with exceptionalism has long been ingrained in American mythology." https://www.itjungle.com/2022/09/19/as-i-see-it-different-yet-the-same/ | Sep 19 05:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itjungle.com | As I See It: Different Yet the Same - IT Jungle | Sep 19 05:27 | |
| techrights-news | "Pandora FMS, an open source log monitoring solution that has been in use for decades, is being integrated with IBM i, the software’s commercial backer announced last week." https://www.itjungle.com/2022/09/19/pandora-fms-log-monitoring-solution-gets-ibm-i-hooks/ | Sep 19 05:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itjungle.com | Pandora FMS Log Monitoring Solution Gets IBM i Hooks - IT Jungle | Sep 19 05:27 | |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Corporate Fluff: SUSE and IBM ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/19/Corporate_Fluff_SUSE_and_IBM.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/19/Corporate_Fluff_SUSE_and_IBM.gmi ∎ | Sep 19 05:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Corporate Fluff: SUSE and IBM | Sep 19 05:35 | |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Hideo Kojima Trying out the Steam Deck at the TGS 2022, and His New Podcast called Brain Structure ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/19/Hideo_Kojima_Trying_out_the_Steam_Deck_at_the_TGS_2022_and_His_.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/19/Hideo_Kojima_Trying_out_the_Steam_Deck_at_the_TGS_2022_and_His_.gmi ∎ | Sep 19 05:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Hideo Kojima Trying out the Steam Deck at the TGS 2022, and His New Podcast called Brain Structure | Sep 19 05:35 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▆▁▁▂▁▇▁▂▁▁▄▂▇▂▆▃▁▄▅▄▆▃▆█▃▃▄▁▅▆▄▅▃█▁ avg(k/sec) 46.31 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁█▃▁█▁███▁███▁▁█▄▁▁▁▂▁▁█▁▁█▁▁██▁ avg(k/sec) 139.25▕ swarm size (avg): 125.40 ⟲ | Sep 19 05:59 |
| techrights-news | A Year After Release Vista 11 Hasn’t Even Been Adopted (Nowhere Near Vista 10 Yet) and Microsoft Already Drops Vista 12 ’Vapourware’ | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/09/19/vista-12-vapourware/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/09/19/vista-12-vapourware/ | Sep 19 06:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | A Year After Release Vista 11 Hasn’t Even Been Adopted (Nowhere Near Vista 10 Yet) and Microsoft Already Drops Vista 12 ‘Vapourware’ | Techrights | Sep 19 06:03 | |
| techrights-news | Links 19/09/2022: MX Linux 21.2.1 and 4MLinux 41.0 Beta | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/09/19/4mlinux-41-0-beta/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/09/19/4mlinux-41-0-beta/ | Sep 19 06:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 19/09/2022: MX Linux 21.2.1 and 4MLinux 41.0 Beta | Techrights | Sep 19 06:11 | |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Programming Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/19/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/19/Programming_Leftovers.gmi ∎ | Sep 19 06:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Programming Leftovers | Sep 19 06:11 | |
| highest_cubist_thrills | [C[C[C[C[D:j #techrights | Sep 19 06:13 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-18.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-19.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Sep 19 06:20 |
| *geert (~geert@ktj658u2y4m3q.irc) has joined #techrights | Sep 19 06:29 | |
| techrights-news | COVID-19 Positivity Rates Rising Again This Month https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/09/19/covid-19-positivity/ | Sep 19 06:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » COVID-19 Positivity Rates Rising Again This Month | Sep 19 06:30 | |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): 9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: September 18th, 2022 ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/19/9to5Linux_Weekly_Roundup_September_18th_2022.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/19/9to5Linux_Weekly_Roundup_September_18th_2022.gmi ∎ | Sep 19 06:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — 9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: September 18th, 2022 | Sep 19 06:30 | |
| techrights-news | Canary in the Photo Mine | LINUX Unplugged 476 https://feed.jupiter.zone/allshows#entry-8828 | Sep 19 06:34 |
| techrights-news | How to tell Web apps and Android apps apart on your [sic] Chromebook https://chromeunboxed.com/differentiate-web-android-apps-chromeos | Sep 19 06:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-chromeunboxed.com | How to tell Web Apps and Android apps apart on your Chromebook | Sep 19 06:35 | |
| techrights-news | It’s rather revealing that Vista 11 is another Vista 8.x or Windows ME; almost nobody adopts it (not many people buy a new PC in an economic downturn amid rise of mobile devices) but Microsoft already rushes to promise some future version http://techrights.org/2022/09/19/vista-12-vapourware/ | Sep 19 06:36 |
| techrights-news | "They just silently (no advance notice) stopped issuing these reports 2 months ago when there was a COVID-19 surge. As if the goal was to ‘pacify’, not protect or inform, the public." https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/09/19/covid-19-positivity/ | Sep 19 06:36 |
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| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▃▂▅▃▄▄▄█▃▂▅▁▂▄▄▅▅▅▄▅▆▅▇▆▆▄▂▃▁▂▆▄▅▇▂▇▁ avg(k/sec) 30.73 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▁▁▁█▁▁▁█▁▂▁█▂▁▁▁▂█▁▁▂▁▁▄█▁█▁█▁▁ avg(k/sec) 51.98▕ swarm size (avg): 138.51 ⟲ | Sep 19 06:59 |
| techrights-news | Free as in Finance/Money: Salary of SFC’s Chief Rose to $216,000 Per Year ($18,000 Per Month), or More Than Twice the FSF’s Chief | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/09/19/sfc-salaries/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/09/19/sfc-salaries/ | Sep 19 07:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Free as in Finance/Money: Salary of SFC’s Chief Rose to $216,000 Per Year ($18,000 Per Month), or More Than Twice the FSF’s Chief | Techrights | Sep 19 07:16 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | highest_cubist_thrills: might be of interest ^ | Sep 19 07:18 |
| schestowitz[TR] | I thought of another reference there | Sep 19 07:18 |
| schestowitz[TR] | but forgot while typing | Sep 19 07:19 |
| schestowitz[TR] | maybe it'll come back later | Sep 19 07:19 |
| schestowitz[TR] | did not mention OSI | Sep 19 07:19 |
| schestowitz[TR] | among other links | Sep 19 07:19 |
| schestowitz[TR] | but what FSFE did to FSF | Sep 19 07:19 |
| schestowitz[TR] | or OSI did to FSF | Sep 19 07:19 |
| schestowitz[TR] | SFC does to SFLC | Sep 19 07:19 |
| schestowitz[TR] | creating confusion | Sep 19 07:19 |
| schestowitz[TR] | to steal mindshare and goodwill off of GNU etc. | Sep 19 07:19 |
| schestowitz[TR] | as if FSFE made gnu | Sep 19 07:20 |
| schestowitz[TR] | fsfe: you suppot fsf? | Sep 19 07:20 |
| schestowitz[TR] | you are european? | Sep 19 07:20 |
| schestowitz[TR] | then give money to us!! | Sep 19 07:20 |
| schestowitz[TR] | We're even more ethical than fsf | Sep 19 07:20 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-18.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-19.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Sep 19 07:20 |
| schestowitz[TR] | fsf supports rape or somehing --fsfe | Sep 19 07:20 |
| schestowitz[TR] | those parasites aren't in it on their own | Sep 19 07:20 |
| schestowitz[TR] | check who sponsors them | Sep 19 07:20 |
| schestowitz[TR] | i.e. makes them stronger | Sep 19 07:20 |
| schestowitz[TR] | also, see the text from sflc | Sep 19 07:21 |
| schestowitz[TR] | I reproireucued it | Sep 19 07:21 |
| schestowitz[TR] | cc licence | Sep 19 07:21 |
| schestowitz[TR] | they tried for 3 years to settle the trademark issue | Sep 19 07:21 |
| schestowitz[TR] | just like fsf and fsfe | Sep 19 07:21 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and there is no response | Sep 19 07:21 |
| schestowitz[TR] | they just snub the originals | Sep 19 07:21 |
| schestowitz[TR] | the ones who MADE them | Sep 19 07:21 |
| schestowitz[TR] | SFLC made SFC | Sep 19 07:21 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and then SFC went out of its way to attack its own | Sep 19 07:22 |
| schestowitz[TR] | or its origins | Sep 19 07:22 |
| schestowitz[TR] | parastic to say the least | Sep 19 07:22 |
| schestowitz[TR] | y: we are just like x, but we are more ethical, because | Sep 19 07:22 |
| schestowitz[TR] | a) y has more ionories AND/OR | Sep 19 07:23 |
| schestowitz[TR] | *minorities | Sep 19 07:23 |
| schestowitz[TR] | b) y gets more positive media coverage from media owned by its sponsors, e.g. IBM | Sep 19 07:23 |
| schestowitz[TR] | LF is the same, but in relation to other projects. mostyly openwashing. sfc does not do openwashing afaict | Sep 19 07:24 |
| schestowitz[TR] | it just tries to suck out the life... clients... from sflc, fsf... | Sep 19 07:24 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and then sfjc groupies like mjg59_ slander the originals | Sep 19 07:25 |
| schestowitz[TR] | moglen, rms.. | Sep 19 07:25 |
| schestowitz[TR] | to boost their own | Sep 19 07:25 |
| schestowitz[TR] | Red Hat etc. (employer) | Sep 19 07:25 |
| schestowitz[TR] | so you know what they stand for | Sep 19 07:25 |
| schestowitz[TR] | later on sfc hired Shrap too | Sep 19 07:25 |
| schestowitz[TR] | they hire from the mob | Sep 19 07:25 |
| schestowitz[TR] | rewarding the online mob | Sep 19 07:25 |
| schestowitz[TR] | same people who attacked Torvalds for the sponsors of LF | Sep 19 07:25 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and they can smell the cash | Sep 19 07:25 |
| schestowitz[TR] | they have a noose for money | Sep 19 07:25 |
| schestowitz[TR] | swimming with the sharks | Sep 19 07:26 |
| schestowitz[TR] | http://techrights.org/2021/02/08/fosdem-ibm-gag/ | Sep 19 07:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | FOSDEM and Free Speech: Will It Blend? | Techrights | Sep 19 07:26 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | sfc: don't criticise ibm (or gnome) | Sep 19 07:26 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | http://techrights.org/2019/06/11/changing-the-names/ | Sep 19 07:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Chapter 9: Ownership Through Branding — Change the Names, and Change the World | Techrights | Sep 19 07:30 | |
| highest_cubist_thrills | and then sfjc groupies like mjg59_ slander the originals <- bait and switch, idealisation and devaluation, scoopy doo maneuver... | Sep 19 07:30 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | sfc: don't criticise ibm (or gnome) <- and of course, monopoly | Sep 19 07:31 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | stallman doesnt speak for the movement he created, SAYS SFC | Sep 19 07:31 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | sfc does | Sep 19 07:31 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | kuhn is god! | Sep 19 07:31 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | but not really, starstreak : 09/19/22 06:27 <highest_cubist_thrills> but not really, | Sep 19 07:31 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | thats much more ecumenical! | Sep 19 07:31 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | stallman is nobody, says somebody | Sep 19 07:31 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | and lets back it up with these lies... | Sep 19 07:31 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | someone defaced his door-- thats his fault! | Sep 19 07:31 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | but lets enter mincer mode | Sep 19 07:31 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | whats the point of this? | Sep 19 07:31 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | over the past few years, the culture has been transformed | Sep 19 07:31 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | truth is passe, even frowned upon | Sep 19 07:32 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | lies are effective-- more than anything else | Sep 19 07:32 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | image is everything, and freedom is a joke | Sep 19 07:32 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | sure, on principle, someone (hopefully) tries to figure it out and tell people | Sep 19 07:32 |
| geert | transforamtion is still ongoing, so lets better try not accept it as static | Sep 19 07:32 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | but do people actually care? ask mincer | Sep 19 07:32 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | im inclined to think they dont, but for some exeptions | Sep 19 07:33 |
| geert | and lies are most often tries to escape from something that is considered ideally tense so to speak | Sep 19 07:33 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | years ago i wrote about this-- it wasnt apathy, even if it appeared to be | Sep 19 07:33 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | im not so sure now | Sep 19 07:33 |
| geert | and mincer mode 'whats the point of all this' | Sep 19 07:33 |
| geert | well e.g. try get mincer educated as an example | Sep 19 07:33 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | maybe i was right, but right now, i think people are past giving a shit | Sep 19 07:33 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | im including the previous view for completeness | Sep 19 07:34 |
| geert | people suggest all people, i think its a sorry few you get to point out who wouldnt give a shit anymore | Sep 19 07:34 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | for years ive searched for those who give a shit about this | Sep 19 07:34 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | and surely they exist. | Sep 19 07:34 |
| geert | and many who pose like that, still give a shit but act as if they dont care | Sep 19 07:34 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | its a question of how many, and what they can do about it | Sep 19 07:34 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | ive spent plenty of time determining that as well | Sep 19 07:34 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | i dont think a damned thing is going to happen about it | Sep 19 07:34 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | the free software dark ages will continue | Sep 19 07:35 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | for now | Sep 19 07:35 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | for some time | Sep 19 07:35 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | probably for a long time | Sep 19 07:35 |
| geert | i think transformation is ongoing and we dont necessarily need to fantasize its result as if necessarily pessimistic | Sep 19 07:35 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | long enough for gnu to become much more obviously dead | Sep 19 07:35 |
| geert | the lies will not prevail, however it might seem otherwise | Sep 19 07:35 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | long enough for this farce to become broadly apparent | Sep 19 07:35 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | could take years | Sep 19 07:35 |
| geert | and the bogus malicious corrupt shit will not win | Sep 19 07:35 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | ALREADY HAS taken years. | Sep 19 07:36 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | the time the fsf has spent being ineffective is a fraction that just grows larger | Sep 19 07:36 |
| geert | not the money, not the propriety intellectual theft, at one point all the malicious crap will *obviously* proof damaging to group so to speak | Sep 19 07:36 |
| geert | so every day we got more possibilities than difficulties | Sep 19 07:36 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | theyve been thumb-in-arse since 2014 at the latest | Sep 19 07:36 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | 7 or 8 years | Sep 19 07:36 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | theyve existed for fewer than 40 years | Sep 19 07:37 |
| geert | so it takes years not because malicious will win | Sep 19 07:37 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | so whats the percentage? | Sep 19 07:37 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | for the past 20% or so of its existence, fsf has accomplished nothing. | Sep 19 07:37 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | nothing. | Sep 19 07:37 |
| geert | it more of takes years because malicious is afraid to lose and try get more time through lies to try not lose | Sep 19 07:37 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | its not a force for freedom | Sep 19 07:37 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | it cant stand up to the corporations | Sep 19 07:37 |
| geert | but malicious will lose anyway and the more time it takes the more cost staples on top of initial malicious already so they kinda shooting their own toes, so to speak | Sep 19 07:37 |
| geert | wish ya'll good morning, things things so prolly bbiab :) | Sep 19 07:38 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | whats the way out? alternatives. | Sep 19 07:38 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | where are they? | Sep 19 07:38 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | they all suck. | Sep 19 07:38 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | i think openbsd is a fine os, which does good things | Sep 19 07:38 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | but openbsd is not a free software organisation | Sep 19 07:38 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | it is an operating system | Sep 19 07:38 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | it does not exist to liberate the user-- even if it makes the user more free | Sep 19 07:38 |
| geert | so related to peoples perception, it got advantages too. | Sep 19 07:39 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | it can be used for that | Sep 19 07:39 |
| geert | meaning it isnt perfect | Sep 19 07:39 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | but the purpose of de raadt and others is not to encourage freedom, even if they produce tools useful for that purpose. | Sep 19 07:39 |
| geert | meaning we got cause to put possibilities we got to use | Sep 19 07:39 |
| geert | a few hours ago i got to hear something; | Sep 19 07:39 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | they arent freedom-centric, freedom-based, thats not their purpose | Sep 19 07:39 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | their purpose is just software. | Sep 19 07:39 |
| geert | 'if we really achieve confortable, why in the world would we make a change' <-- something along that line | Sep 19 07:39 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | at least they have great standards-- but they dont have that cause. | Sep 19 07:40 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | so where is that cause? | Sep 19 07:40 |
| geert | so if it isnt perfect, i guess we got reason to try work | Sep 19 07:40 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | the answer is: nowhere | Sep 19 07:40 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | if you take all the energy that goes into an engine block | Sep 19 07:40 |
| geert | nonono, we got cause, the cause is Right | Sep 19 07:40 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | and you remove the engine block, your destination is: | Sep 19 07:40 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | exactly where youre sitting | Sep 19 07:40 |
| geert | if its imperfect, its obviously not *Right* | Sep 19 07:40 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | thats where free software is going | Sep 19 07:40 |
| geert | so we got plenty of cause | Sep 19 07:40 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | it has no life to it | Sep 19 07:40 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | it is inert | Sep 19 07:40 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | dead. | Sep 19 07:40 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | the fsf is dead, gnu is dead, some people poke it and go | Sep 19 07:41 |
| geert | nonono youmistake a object with its user/abuser | Sep 19 07:41 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | THERE! IT MOVED! | Sep 19 07:41 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | just like palin in the dead parrot sketch | Sep 19 07:41 |
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| highest_cubist_thrills | ive been complaining about this for years | Sep 19 07:41 |
| geert | like a hammer is utilized, and use would probably classify it tool and abuse in many occasion would classify it weapon | Sep 19 07:41 |
| geert | so it is with software | Sep 19 07:41 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | i even stuck olivas head on palin and the fsf logo over the parrot | Sep 19 07:41 |
| geert | in itself its like a object | Sep 19 07:41 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | because i was tired of his nonsense | Sep 19 07:41 |
| geert | if object is not handled, it is unlikely to provide effect | Sep 19 07:42 |
| geert | the effect should not be mixed with 'life' | Sep 19 07:42 |
| geert | anyways bbiab, things things :) | Sep 19 07:42 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | let me know when you know how to make a parrot | Sep 19 07:42 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | we already know who killed it. | Sep 19 07:42 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | feel free to take a closer look at the time of death, because thats still a mystery | Sep 19 07:42 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | theres nothing left to save. | Sep 19 07:42 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | not in terms of the movement. | Sep 19 07:42 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | there is no movement. | Sep 19 07:42 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | theres software to salvage | Sep 19 07:43 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | but no movement to salvage it | Sep 19 07:43 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | all they can do is fucking archive it | Sep 19 07:43 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | developing and maintaining it, in lines with free software | Sep 19 07:43 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | would require a free software movement. | Sep 19 07:43 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | there isnt one. | Sep 19 07:43 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | since the flagship project of the free software movement is gnu | Sep 19 07:43 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | THE free operating system | Sep 19 07:44 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | owned and controlled by ibm | Sep 19 07:44 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | held hostage by microsoft | Sep 19 07:44 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | the most interesting proof of the death of the movement is the destruction of its flagship | Sep 19 07:44 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | but at the end of the day, thats only evidence | Sep 19 07:44 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | if you look around, at anything, you can join mr. cleese in siding with reality | Sep 19 07:45 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | or you can push the cage and say "THERE! IT MOVED!" | Sep 19 07:45 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | but until someone figures out how to make a parrot | Sep 19 07:45 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | this is all very silly | Sep 19 07:45 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | open source has replaced the free software movement | Sep 19 07:45 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | completely | Sep 19 07:45 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | bait and switch | Sep 19 07:45 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | there is still free software | Sep 19 07:46 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | but no movement to speak of | Sep 19 07:46 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | so good luck with that | Sep 19 07:46 |
| geert | well nothing about the software and foundations is perfect | Sep 19 07:46 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | someday, probably, the movement will return | Sep 19 07:46 |
| geert | imperfect means we got things to do | Sep 19 07:46 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | someday, probably, russia will be communist again too | Sep 19 07:46 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | theres no way to predict when | Sep 19 07:47 |
| geert | well talking about communist, if the EU as an example dont watch out they might get communist first | Sep 19 07:47 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | could be years, could be decades | Sep 19 07:47 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | it wont be centuries, capitalism will kill us faster than that | Sep 19 07:47 |
| geert | so reality is like ongoing transformation currently | Sep 19 07:47 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | it killed free software | Sep 19 07:47 |
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| geert | and we should try affect that ongoing transformation 'positively' | Sep 19 07:47 |
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| highest_cubist_thrills | stallman was too trusting | Sep 19 07:47 |
| geert | and if mincer ask 'whats the point' | Sep 19 07:47 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | paranoid wouldnt suit him | Sep 19 07:47 |
| geert | we should answer things like 'to try get you educated' | Sep 19 07:47 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | but neither does being a doormat or a sucker | Sep 19 07:47 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | to be fair, most people-- pretty much anyone | Sep 19 07:48 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | in his position, for such a long time | Sep 19 07:48 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | would have one hell of a time holding this off as long as he did | Sep 19 07:48 |
| geert | stallman to me means another imperfect being, like you, like me | Sep 19 07:48 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | ive seen no person of equal tenacity | Sep 19 07:48 |
| geert | subjective people are imperfect, so they got reason to learn | Sep 19 07:48 |
| geert | stallman wasnt excempt from that | Sep 19 07:48 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | no pretender to the throne who can match half of his staying power | Sep 19 07:48 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | theres something wrong with that model, yes | Sep 19 07:49 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | but theres nothing to replace it either | Sep 19 07:49 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | so bullshit reigns | Sep 19 07:49 |
| geert | you seem to try make things static that are rather dynamically transforming, which is ongoing process currently | Sep 19 07:49 |
| geert | with many subprocesses | Sep 19 07:49 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | if enough people gave a shit i think they could assert something | Sep 19 07:49 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | we certainly arent in that situation | Sep 19 07:49 |
| geert | many people give a shit but they dont show it because they see that as potential vulnerabilities to their ego that others would possibly exploit | Sep 19 07:50 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | maybe someday | Sep 19 07:50 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | i dont think it will be soon | Sep 19 07:50 |
| geert | many those things got to do with them, in this interconnect world so to say | Sep 19 07:50 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | its naive to think when its been years of bs | Sep 19 07:50 |
| geert | so far most *do* give a shit, so to speak | Sep 19 07:50 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | that we wont have years more of bs | Sep 19 07:50 |
| geert | even if they try deny it | Sep 19 07:50 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | whatever is going to change it | Sep 19 07:50 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | isnt hiding in the wings | Sep 19 07:50 |
| geert | as an example, so to speak | Sep 19 07:50 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | its in the mists of time | Sep 19 07:51 |
| geert | maybe ttyl :) plz better try aim positive :) | Sep 19 07:51 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | but hey | Sep 19 07:51 |
| geert | that you probably not become as old and inflexible as mincer seem sometimes :) | Sep 19 07:51 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | id love to be wrong | Sep 19 07:51 |
| geert | if you wouldnt love to be wrong, i think it becomes difficult learning | Sep 19 07:51 |
| geert | and we got plenty of reason to learn | Sep 19 07:52 |
| geert | bbiab, things things :) | Sep 19 07:52 |
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| highest_cubist_thrills | i boycott the traitors | Sep 19 07:52 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | you write whatrights | Sep 19 07:52 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | there are no techrights, so my question is, whatrights? | Sep 19 07:53 |
| geert | i think better say : techreasons or techduties | Sep 19 07:53 |
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| schestowitz[TR] | techconservancy | Sep 19 07:53 |
| schestowitz[TR] | now with extra D and I | Sep 19 07:54 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | software freedom servancy con | Sep 19 07:54 |
| geert | schesto!! wish you good morning too like the others | Sep 19 07:54 |
| schestowitz[TR] | less "hate" | Sep 19 07:54 |
| schestowitz[TR] | less criticism of crime | Sep 19 07:54 |
| schestowitz[TR] | =less "hate" | Sep 19 07:54 |
| geert | and btw i got to see a site you get <-- schesto ; seemed quite informative!! | Sep 19 07:54 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | hate disguised as love is still hate | Sep 19 07:54 |
| geert | disguise do not 'unset' facts | Sep 19 07:55 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | hate disguised as tolerance is still hate | Sep 19 07:55 |
| geert | hate evil. all other hate is not so good | Sep 19 07:55 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | hypocrisy and authoritarianism disguised as love and tolerance is still hypocrisy and authoritarianism | Sep 19 07:55 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | and lieplanet runs the fsf | Sep 19 07:55 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | it also ruined the fsf | Sep 19 07:55 |
| geert | theres lots of imperfect, but its not reason to declare imperfect 'winner' | Sep 19 07:56 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | a big corporate trojan horse | Sep 19 07:56 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | that shits on everything | Sep 19 07:56 |
| geert | so hypocrisy, authoritarianism etc. is *not* going to win | Sep 19 07:56 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | trojan horseshit everywhere | Sep 19 07:56 |
| geert | and such malicious dont wana lose, most often, so they try 'win time' as it is said sometimes because they're afraid of losing | Sep 19 07:56 |
| geert | not because malicious would win | Sep 19 07:56 |
| geert | they afraid of losing | Sep 19 07:56 |
| geert | thats most often why it kind of seem to take so much time, coz malicious is afraid of losing and they figure they *might* win by trying eat some more time, so to speak | Sep 19 07:57 |
| geert | its not like malicious is winning, they wont win, they cannot win, malicious crap is still crap however it might be disguised | Sep 19 07:57 |
| geert | :) | Sep 19 07:57 |
| geert | wish ya'll good morning | Sep 19 07:58 |
| geert | so you got cause, you got plenty cause, and you got possibilities much more than difficulties | Sep 19 07:58 |
| geert | and you should better try aim 'positive' | Sep 19 07:58 |
| geert | and the goons wana take that positive aim, they want influence you psychologically in ways they figure they can be more goon | Sep 19 07:59 |
| geert | coz if you feel resilient, they think they get less room to goon | Sep 19 07:59 |
| geert | so plz better try aim 'positive' | Sep 19 07:59 |
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| geert | and if mincer ask 'whats the point' | Sep 19 07:59 |
| geert | they i think you better might get to tell em ' to try educate you' | Sep 19 07:59 |
| geert | :) | Sep 19 07:59 |
| geert | youdont have to give the miserable malicious goons what they want, like e.g. affecting you negatively psychologically, you do not *have* to give em the goon shit they want | Sep 19 08:01 |
| geert | not like i want to insult you like you would only favor negativism | Sep 19 08:03 |
| geert | but you seem to worry so much that it dont necessarily lead to 'better understanding' :) | Sep 19 08:04 |
| schestowitz[TR] | <geert> so hypocrisy, authoritarianism etc. is *not* going to win | Sep 19 08:08 |
| schestowitz[TR] | IF | Sep 19 08:08 |
| schestowitz[TR] | you call them out on it | Sep 19 08:08 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and win the argument | Sep 19 08:08 |
| schestowitz[TR] | which is easy when the facts are on your side | Sep 19 08:08 |
| schestowitz[TR] | "cluebat" over the ehad | Sep 19 08:09 |
| schestowitz[TR] | *head | Sep 19 08:09 |
| schestowitz[TR] | 2300 active capsules by year's end? 2400? gemini://gemini.bortzmeyer.org/software/lupa/stats.gmi | Sep 19 08:09 |
| geert | schesto; malicious is *not* going to win. they want to appear like 'legit', but they arent. they want you or me to think the universe runs around 'malicious' but it doesnt | Sep 19 08:11 |
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| geert | if the universe ran around malcious, so to speak, the stars didnt look as they do look | Sep 19 08:11 |
| schestowitz[TR] | geert: i agree | Sep 19 08:11 |
| geert | so the universe not going to bend for malicious, they not going to win, however it might appear | Sep 19 08:11 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | <schestowitz[TR]> which is easy when the facts are on your side | Sep 19 08:11 |
| schestowitz[TR] | geert: case of point: | Sep 19 08:12 |
| schestowitz[TR] | http://techrights.org/2022/09/14/sfc-income/ | Sep 19 08:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Software Freedom Conservancy’s (SFC) Income Fell 63% After Working to Oust the Founder of the Free Software Foundation (FSF), Richard Stallman | Techrights | Sep 19 08:12 | |
| highest_cubist_thrills | youve already proved that to be false. | Sep 19 08:12 |
| schestowitz[TR] | also: | Sep 19 08:12 |
| schestowitz[TR] | http://techrights.org/2022/08/28/linux-foundation-revenue-plunges/ | Sep 19 08:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation Revenue Plunges ($18,000,000 Decrease in One Year) and Jim Zemlin’s Wife Has Her Company Sued for Securities Fraud (Class Action) | Techrights | Sep 19 08:12 | |
| highest_cubist_thrills | mjg also thinks the facts are on his side | Sep 19 08:12 |
| schestowitz[TR] | \gates foundation is also collapsing | Sep 19 08:12 |
| schestowitz[TR] | but it took a long time | Sep 19 08:12 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | with this he plagues people for years | Sep 19 08:12 |
| schestowitz[TR] | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php?title=Gates_Foundation_Critique | Sep 19 08:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Gates Foundation Critique - Techrights | Sep 19 08:12 | |
| highest_cubist_thrills | gates foundation is also collapsing <- so what | Sep 19 08:12 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | muskets are no longer used in war | Sep 19 08:12 |
| schestowitz[TR] | everything we saud about uefi turned out to be correct | Sep 19 08:13 |
| schestowitz[TR] | http://techrights.org/wiki/UEFI | Sep 19 08:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | UEFI - Techrights | Sep 19 08:13 | |
| highest_cubist_thrills | war somehow persists | Sep 19 08:13 |
| geert | as it seems, to a moment in time we dont grasp as much about as we often think | Sep 19 08:13 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and mjg59_ was sought for rewards by Microsoft: http://techrights.org/2022/08/01/headhunting-matthew-garrett/ | Sep 19 08:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft is Trying to Hire (Read: Pay Salaries to) Matthew Garrett | Techrights | Sep 19 08:13 | |
| highest_cubist_thrills | everything we saud about uefi turned out to be correct <- its easier to be correct about problems than solutions | Sep 19 08:13 |
| schestowitz[TR] | <highest_cubist_thrills> war somehow persists | Sep 19 08:13 |
| schestowitz[TR] | class war always persisted | Sep 19 08:13 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and it cannot be ended | Sep 19 08:13 |
| schestowitz[TR] | only faught on | Sep 19 08:13 |
| geert | schesto; nice providing those links, today i get seriously planning look into it, now i got planning to try dig a bit through 'sexuality SJW mess' | Sep 19 08:14 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | the point being | Sep 19 08:14 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | if the gates foundation has crumbled | Sep 19 08:14 |
| schestowitz[TR] | geert: it's not "SJW" | Sep 19 08:14 |
| schestowitz[TR] | it's one of several methods | Sep 19 08:14 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | the problems do not die with it | Sep 19 08:14 |
| schestowitz[TR] | but not the ends | Sep 19 08:14 |
| schestowitz[TR] | there are other methods | Sep 19 08:14 |
| schestowitz[TR] | copyrights, patents, kidnapping | Sep 19 08:14 |
| schestowitz[TR] | like wikileaks | Sep 19 08:14 |
| geert | hmmmm nice pointing that out ;) | Sep 19 08:14 |
| schestowitz[TR] | wikileaks was attacked in a lot of ways | Sep 19 08:15 |
| geert | still is | Sep 19 08:15 |
| geert | horrendous malicious goons try stuff like thaty | Sep 19 08:15 |
| geert | but they wont win. | Sep 19 08:15 |
| schestowitz[TR] | not in the long run | Sep 19 08:15 |
| DaemonFC | https://archive.ph/sbiLr | Sep 19 08:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-archive.ph | Gemini Portal | Sep 19 08:15 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | there will be many casualties like cannon fodder | Sep 19 08:15 |
| DaemonFC | Wegmans Discontinues Self-Checkout App, Citing Losses | Sep 19 08:15 |
| DaemonFC | Walmart has one of these too. | Sep 19 08:15 |
| schestowitz[TR] | bully de blanc is bascially finished http://techrights.org/2021/04/21/libel-campaigns/ | Sep 19 08:16 |
| mjg59_ | I may have been unclear here, but *Netflix* have tried harder to recruit me than Microsoft did | Sep 19 08:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Overt Abuse and Mischaracterisations by Bully de Blanc | Techrights | Sep 19 08:16 | |
| DaemonFC | Wegmans says their theft went up 18% when they did the "scan and go" app. | Sep 19 08:16 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and her boss also http://techrights.org/2022/02/14/goodbye-mcgovern/ | Sep 19 08:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | ‘Reprehensible’ GNOME Foundation Leadership Falls on Sword While Richard Stallman Returns | Techrights | Sep 19 08:16 | |
| DaemonFC | (02:16:07 AM) mjg59_: I may have been unclear here, but *Netflix* have tried harder to recruit me than Microsoft did | Sep 19 08:16 |
| geert | its reason why malicious wont win, before its cannon fodder | Sep 19 08:16 |
| DaemonFC | To do what? DRM? | Sep 19 08:16 |
| geert | so malicious is stappling the reasons to get done with malicious itself so to speak | Sep 19 08:16 |
| mjg59_ | Yeah, which is why I told them to fuck off | Sep 19 08:16 |
| DaemonFC | That's all they really are. A bunch of groomers with DRM. | Sep 19 08:16 |
| geert | before those 'casualties' are cannon fodder | Sep 19 08:16 |
| geert | plz try aim positive | Sep 19 08:16 |
| DaemonFC | They're laying off anyway now. You'd have been laid off most likely. | Sep 19 08:16 |
| mjg59_ | Given the last time they tried was last week, probably not | Sep 19 08:17 |
| DaemonFC | They're going under. | Sep 19 08:17 |
| geert | malicious try so much, but it wont give them the real win | Sep 19 08:17 |
| DaemonFC | Streaming has become far too diluted. | Sep 19 08:17 |
| DaemonFC | And they're doing price hikes into a stagflation recession as they lose millions of subscribers. | Sep 19 08:17 |
| schestowitz[TR] | there are published speculations microsoft will buy netflix | Sep 19 08:17 |
| DaemonFC | So if you agree to work there, good luck. | Sep 19 08:17 |
| schestowitz[TR] | I can link to some | Sep 19 08:17 |
| schestowitz[TR] | but would rather not | Sep 19 08:18 |
| schestowitz[TR] | as it is microsoft cheerleading articles | Sep 19 08:18 |
| schestowitz[TR] | microsoft is now managing their ads (revenue) | Sep 19 08:18 |
| mjg59_ | DaemonFC: I think I was just pretty clear that I wasn't going to agree to work there | Sep 19 08:18 |
| schestowitz[TR] | is netflix profiting at all? | Sep 19 08:18 |
| schestowitz[TR] | let's see 2022 numbers | Sep 19 08:18 |
| DaemonFC | Nobody in the mainstream media will say it, but Biden's economy has turned into stagflation. | Sep 19 08:18 |
| schestowitz[TR] | they had millionf of cancellations | Sep 19 08:18 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and fired thoussands to lower expenses | Sep 19 08:18 |
| DaemonFC | Zero or negative GDP with double-digit inflation. | Sep 19 08:18 |
| schestowitz[TR] | https://time.com/6198354/netflix-subscribers-loss-second-quarter-future/ | Sep 19 08:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Netflix Loses 1 Million Subscribers in Second Quarter | Time | Sep 19 08:18 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-62226912 | Sep 19 08:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | Netflix loses almost a million subscribers - BBC News | Sep 19 08:19 | |
| mjg59_ | I've got a senior title in the bay area, it would be weird if Microsoft didn't try to recruit me | Sep 19 08:19 |
| DaemonFC | They try to protect Biden so even as things get so much worse than they were 3 or 4 years ago, they won't say it. | Sep 19 08:19 |
| schestowitz[TR] | https://www.cnbc.com/2022/07/18/netflix-investors-brace-for-subscriber-losses-as-company-builds-for-long-term.html | Sep 19 08:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnbc.com | Netflix investors brace for subscriber losses as firm focuses on fixes | Sep 19 08:19 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | https://www.ft.com/content/c3b63a57-0d46-41c7-8f6b-c61d388db039 | Sep 19 08:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ft.com | Subscribe to read | Financial Times | Sep 19 08:19 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | "Netflix shares fall almost 40% after subscribers warning | Sep 19 08:19 |
| schestowitz[TR] | " | Sep 19 08:19 |
| schestowitz[TR] | 40% | Sep 19 08:19 |
| schestowitz[TR] | wow | Sep 19 08:19 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz[TR2]: Like dad said, first people stop spending on things they want. | Sep 19 08:20 |
| DaemonFC | Then they can't spend on things they NEED. | Sep 19 08:20 |
| DaemonFC | That's where things are going. | Sep 19 08:20 |
| schestowitz[TR] | https://medium.com/@alex.sun93/why-netflixs-enormous-cash-losses-are-necessary-not-reckless-netflix-is-not-a-bubble-part-1-ceb31e0a49f3 | Sep 19 08:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why Netflix’s enormous cash losses are necessary, not reckless (NETFLIX IS NOT A BUBBLE, PART 1) | by Alex Sun | Medium | Sep 19 08:20 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-18.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-19.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Sep 19 08:20 |
| DaemonFC | So you see that in things like people buying Netflix subscriptions first. | Sep 19 08:20 |
| schestowitz[TR] | https://miro.medium.com/max/700/0*8ExozlS_sSme-lCm | Sep 19 08:20 |
| schestowitz[TR] | another uber | Sep 19 08:20 |
| schestowitz[TR] | another tesla | Sep 19 08:20 |
| DaemonFC | And things are not going to get better for them. | Sep 19 08:20 |
| schestowitz[TR] | "we are losing" | Sep 19 08:20 |
| schestowitz[TR] | "bear with us" | Sep 19 08:20 |
| schestowitz[TR] | "we'll make money one day... maybe" | Sep 19 08:20 |
| schestowitz[TR] | Twitter, Clownflare... also big losses | Sep 19 08:20 |
| schestowitz[TR] | spotify just abotu hanging there before pandemic | Sep 19 08:20 |
| schestowitz[TR] | NYSE = fraud | Sep 19 08:21 |
| DaemonFC | mjg59_ realizes that if he takes a job at Netflix, it may not even last a year before a round of layoffs wipes him out anyway. | Sep 19 08:21 |
| schestowitz[TR] | http://techrights.org/2022/08/28/linux-foundation-revenue-plunges/ | Sep 19 08:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation Revenue Plunges ($18,000,000 Decrease in One Year) and Jim Zemlin’s Wife Has Her Company Sued for Securities Fraud (Class Action) | Techrights | Sep 19 08:21 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | http://techrights.org/2022/08/30/zemlins-are-volatile/ | Sep 19 08:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | After Defrauding People in New York Stock Exchange (Now Class Action for Securities Fraud) Jim Zemlin’s Wife Quits Bakkt to Dodge Liability | Techrights | Sep 19 08:21 | |
| highest_cubist_thrills | based on roys raving about the (limitless) failure of the tech industry | Sep 19 08:21 |
| DaemonFC | If they're getting rid of the Oscar winning animation people, then are they going to keep the DRM guy? | Sep 19 08:21 |
| DaemonFC | To write DRM for WHAT? | Sep 19 08:21 |
| schestowitz[TR] | <DaemonFC> mjg59_ realizes that if he takes a job at Netflix, it may not even last a year before a round of layoffs wipes him out anyway. | Sep 19 08:21 |
| schestowitz[TR] | or HEY HI in cars | Sep 19 08:21 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | you would have to assume hes either mistaken, or that we have reached peak tech industry | Sep 19 08:21 |
| schestowitz[TR] | I did this as a postdoc for a bit | Sep 19 08:21 |
| schestowitz[TR] | explored it from research POV | Sep 19 08:21 |
| schestowitz[TR] | it stinks | Sep 19 08:21 |
| schestowitz[TR] | it would never work | Sep 19 08:21 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | i dont think the tech industry has peaked | Sep 19 08:21 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | sadly | Sep 19 08:21 |
| schestowitz[TR] | maybe in w warsdhouse | Sep 19 08:22 |
| schestowitz[TR] | where all vehicles are on some control system, | Sep 19 08:22 |
| DaemonFC | mjg59_: Widevine is fucking crap, you know. | Sep 19 08:22 |
| schestowitz[TR] | not on roads with many cars, dogs, cats, squirrels, pedestrians | Sep 19 08:22 |
| DaemonFC | Everything that's "protected" by Widevine ends up being downloaded by ahem..... | Sep 19 08:22 |
| DaemonFC | About 3-4 hours later. | Sep 19 08:22 |
| schestowitz[TR] | can you image "HEY HI" BS companies like auraro writing a fuction for squirrel avoidance? | Sep 19 08:22 |
| schestowitz[TR] | how would they TEST it? | Sep 19 08:22 |
| schestowitz[TR] | IRL? | Sep 19 08:23 |
| schestowitz[TR] | get a thousand squrrels in a bag? | Sep 19 08:23 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and some cars to crash like mercedes in its "Safety" ads? | Sep 19 08:23 |
| DaemonFC | Netflix is going to be the first streaming company to fail because they don't want to commit to anything. | Sep 19 08:23 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | if you both have unfaltering conviction that youre right, neither of you can affect the other | Sep 19 08:23 |
| schestowitz[TR] | humans know how to deal with it | Sep 19 08:23 |
| DaemonFC | Since they don't commit to anything, people give up on it. | Sep 19 08:23 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | or be REASONABLY certain of anything | Sep 19 08:24 |
| schestowitz[TR] | look, it's a rat. no, it looks like a quirrel | Sep 19 08:24 |
| schestowitz[TR] | "slown down a bit" | Sep 19 08:24 |
| schestowitz[TR] | "give it a change to move | Sep 19 08:24 |
| DaemonFC | At least the other streaming companies invest in franchises. | Sep 19 08:24 |
| schestowitz[TR] | aurora cannot tell a plastic bag from an animal | Sep 19 08:24 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | a wall walks into a bar | Sep 19 08:24 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | the bartender is also a wall | Sep 19 08:24 |
| schestowitz[TR] | /change/schance/ | Sep 19 08:24 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | nothing happens | Sep 19 08:24 |
| DaemonFC | House of Cards wasn't bad until they fired Kevin Spacey and tried to wrap it up without him by saying he died off screen. | Sep 19 08:24 |
| DaemonFC | I like Kevin Spacey. | Sep 19 08:25 |
| DaemonFC | You just want to, you know. | Sep 19 08:25 |
| schestowitz[TR] | netflix wants to hiire mjg59_ | Sep 19 08:25 |
| schestowitz[TR] | also netflix: | Sep 19 08:25 |
| schestowitz[TR] | https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/business/story/2022-02-04/netflix-trans-employee-resigns-dave-chappelle | Sep 19 08:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.latimes.com | Trans Netflix employee resigns over Chappelle controversy - Los Angeles Times | Sep 19 08:26 | |
| highest_cubist_thrills | netflix is useless and determined to destroy itself with bullshit | Sep 19 08:26 |
| schestowitz[TR] | https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2022/may/25/ricky-gervais-netflix-special-condemned-by-lgbtq-groups-for-anti-trans-rants-masquerading-as-jokes | Sep 19 08:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Ricky Gervais Netflix special condemned by LGBTQ groups for ‘anti-trans rants masquerading as jokes’ | Ricky Gervais | The Guardian | Sep 19 08:26 | |
| highest_cubist_thrills | the joke pretty much writes itself | Sep 19 08:26 |
| DaemonFC | Nobody has actually even said that Spacey raped them as far as I am aware. | Sep 19 08:26 |
| schestowitz[TR] | https://www.newsweek.com/netflix-doubles-down-free-speech-trans-activists-vow-fight-1711221 | Sep 19 08:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.newsweek.com | Netflix Doubles Down on 'Free Speech' as Trans Activists Vow to Fight On | Sep 19 08:26 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | netflxi suspended trans people | Sep 19 08:26 |
| schestowitz[TR] | for trying to take control over editorial decisions | Sep 19 08:26 |
| schestowitz[TR] | suspended its own staff | Sep 19 08:26 |
| DaemonFC | His whole career was ruined by someone who said "He made an unwanted pass at me at a party 30 years ago.". | Sep 19 08:26 |
| schestowitz[TR] | they caused issues from the inside | Sep 19 08:26 |
| schestowitz[TR] | https://www.theverge.com/2021/10/18/22733098/netflix-trans-employees-demands-dave-chappelle-walkout | Sep 19 08:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Netflix trans employees and allies release a list of demands ahead of the walkout - The Verge | Sep 19 08:26 | |
| highest_cubist_thrills | ricky-gervais-netflix-special-condemned-by-lgbtq-groups-for-anti-trans-rants-masquerading-as-jokes <- i havent seen the special | Sep 19 08:26 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | but my guess is that he told a bunch of jokes about trans people | Sep 19 08:27 |
| schestowitz[TR] | that's disallowed | Sep 19 08:27 |
| schestowitz[TR] | humour is bad | Sep 19 08:27 |
| schestowitz[TR] | seinfeld is bad | Sep 19 08:27 |
| DaemonFC | Netflix deserves to go under more than most of the rest of them. | Sep 19 08:27 |
| schestowitz[TR] | it's like cosmo kramer now | Sep 19 08:27 |
| DaemonFC | Seinfeld isn't humor. | Sep 19 08:27 |
| schestowitz[TR] | kramer went on a bad tirade | Sep 19 08:27 |
| schestowitz[TR] | not a mjoke | Sep 19 08:27 |
| DaemonFC | Seinfeld is for idiots. | Sep 19 08:27 |
| schestowitz[TR] | but now every joke about a race is treated this way | Sep 19 08:27 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | to be fair, michael richards had a meltdown on stage because he couldnt handle his hecklers | Sep 19 08:28 |
| schestowitz[TR] | in the 1990s we had such controversies too | Sep 19 08:28 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | and this manifested as an extreme rant about black people | Sep 19 08:28 |
| schestowitz[TR] | people accusing comerdians of offending people | Sep 19 08:28 |
| schestowitz[TR] | but they carried on | Sep 19 08:28 |
| DaemonFC | If you don't like the jokes, there's the door. | Sep 19 08:28 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | this isnt an unfair portrayal of what happened to richard at all | Sep 19 08:28 |
| schestowitz[TR] | now they get shows canceled | Sep 19 08:28 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | and people lost interest in him | Sep 19 08:28 |
| DaemonFC | If you don't like the jokes, turn off the TV or cancel your subscription. | Sep 19 08:28 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | because they were disgusted | Sep 19 08:28 |
| schestowitz[TR] | <highest_cubist_thrills> to be fair, michael richards had a meltdown on stage because he couldnt handle his hecklers | Sep 19 08:29 |
| schestowitz[TR] | like rms in brazil | Sep 19 08:29 |
| schestowitz[TR] | embarassing to watch | Sep 19 08:29 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | i dont doubt the jokes that gervais told were anti-trans | Sep 19 08:29 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | people who understand autistic meltdowns would feel bad for rms in brazil | Sep 19 08:29 |
| DaemonFC | Who cares? | Sep 19 08:29 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | and some of the crowd actually understood | Sep 19 08:29 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | they were trying to help | Sep 19 08:29 |
| DaemonFC | Society has ways of dealing with people that are unpopular. | Sep 19 08:30 |
| DaemonFC | It's called "shunning them". | Sep 19 08:30 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | he had a whole speech in spanish | Sep 19 08:30 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | and somehow no one had explained that spanish is NOT a suitable substitute for portuguese | Sep 19 08:30 |
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| DaemonFC | Eventually, nobody will listen to them if everyone agrees what they're saying is bad. | Sep 19 08:30 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | was kuhn still the executive director then? just asking | Sep 19 08:30 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | i dont know what role the fsf plays in his speech events. some, i believe. they announce them at least | Sep 19 08:31 |
| DaemonFC | Unfortunately, people like mjg59_ just want ISPs to disconnect people so nobody can listen if they want to. | Sep 19 08:31 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | the fsf may not be to blame here. | Sep 19 08:31 |
| mjg59_ | schestowitz[TR]: Yeah uh she's literally my neighbour | Sep 19 08:31 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | so he got there with a speech | Sep 19 08:31 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | and suddenly he realises | Sep 19 08:31 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | he cant give the speech, because spanish isnt portuguese | Sep 19 08:31 |
| mjg59_ | schestowitz[TR]: Spend Friday hanging out with her | Sep 19 08:31 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | some people would just take the stress and disappointment | Sep 19 08:31 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | he was there | Sep 19 08:31 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | on stage | Sep 19 08:31 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | and could not give the talk. | Sep 19 08:31 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | isntead he had a meltdown | Sep 19 08:32 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | again | Sep 19 08:32 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | if you know anything about autism | Sep 19 08:32 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | this is understandable | Sep 19 08:32 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | people who know nothing about autism (or do not care) simply say its embarassing-- which is true... | Sep 19 08:32 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | but signifies nothing | Sep 19 08:32 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | its like saying "the sky was blue" | Sep 19 08:33 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | well, thats not untrue | Sep 19 08:33 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | but whats the point youre trying to make | Sep 19 08:33 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | when autistic people are overwhelmed with stress they have meltdowns | Sep 19 08:33 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | if michael richards was found to be autistic it might not save his comedy career | Sep 19 08:34 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | but it should at least be considered | Sep 19 08:34 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | maybe he cant pack clubs after that | Sep 19 08:34 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | (this is not so with stallman btw) | Sep 19 08:34 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | but maybe we dont look at his entire career as "that fucking racist cunt from seinfeld" | Sep 19 08:34 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | btw, i think richards is probably a racist cunt | Sep 19 08:35 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | but i liked his comedy up to that point | Sep 19 08:35 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | id probably still like his comedy if there was anywhere for it to go from here | Sep 19 08:35 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | i mean, maybe he could have learned something and decided to work on being a racist cunt or something | Sep 19 08:35 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | a bit late in life and his career, but hes not dead | Sep 19 08:36 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | its not like he went to a night club and murdered a bunch of people | Sep 19 08:36 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | if you do that, "working on your racism" isnt going to redeem your comedy. | Sep 19 08:37 |
| schestowitz[TR] | it's a fre espeech issue | Sep 19 08:37 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | seinfeld wants to tell the equivalent of dad jokes and get the same respect he got when he was relevant | Sep 19 08:37 |
| schestowitz[TR] | even if you observe racists | Sep 19 08:37 |
| schestowitz[TR] | the idea is | Sep 19 08:37 |
| schestowitz[TR] | the coup plotters enter this channel | Sep 19 08:37 |
| schestowitz[TR] | look for the racist people | Sep 19 08:37 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and then call that out in twitter | Sep 19 08:38 |
| schestowitz[TR] | (someone in irc channel of) techrights said <this> | Sep 19 08:38 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and that helps perpetuate some perception of them fighting for morality | Sep 19 08:38 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | thats not untrue-- the free software movement has been replaced with thought police | Sep 19 08:38 |
| schestowitz[TR] | when in nfact thet fight for censorship | Sep 19 08:38 |
| schestowitz[TR] | they did the same to phoronix | Sep 19 08:38 |
| schestowitz[TR] | by finding bigots in the phoronix forums | Sep 19 08:38 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | but then again | Sep 19 08:39 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and threatening phoronix for gaving a voice/space for people who call out the corporate takeover plotters | Sep 19 08:39 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | you dont really fight the thought police | Sep 19 08:39 |
| schestowitz[TR] | as larabel did years ago | Sep 19 08:39 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | you just alternate between complaining they exist | Sep 19 08:39 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | and then complaining that people are standing up to them | Sep 19 08:39 |
| schestowitz[TR] | it starts with | Sep 19 08:39 |
| schestowitz[TR] | "censor this" | Sep 19 08:39 |
| schestowitz[TR] | "censor THIS person" | Sep 19 08:39 |
| schestowitz[TR] | then they pick on the moderators | Sep 19 08:39 |
| schestowitz[TR] | shaming them | Sep 19 08:40 |
| schestowitz[TR] | dragging them through mud | Sep 19 08:40 |
| schestowitz[TR] | until they compl;y | Sep 19 08:40 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | yep, they do tht | Sep 19 08:40 |
| schestowitz[TR] | the real solution is to not comply at all | Sep 19 08:40 |
| schestowitz[TR] | don't give them any leeway | Sep 19 08:40 |
| schestowitz[TR] | don't see "therapists" | Sep 19 08:40 |
| mjg59_ | schestowitz[TR]: You *do* keep choosing to post articles written by a racist transphobe | Sep 19 08:40 |
| schestowitz[TR] | you give them hunger | Sep 19 08:40 |
| mjg59_ | You could simply not do that | Sep 19 08:40 |
| schestowitz[TR] | they salivate | Sep 19 08:40 |
| schestowitz[TR] | then foam at the moiyuth | Sep 19 08:40 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and try more and more | Sep 19 08:40 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and they will NEVER be happy | Sep 19 08:40 |
| schestowitz[TR] | because they are themselves miserable human beings | Sep 19 08:40 |
| mjg59_ | Actually pretty happy right now tbh | Sep 19 08:41 |
| schestowitz[TR] | you have just made my point | Sep 19 08:41 |
| schestowitz[TR] | you say DaemonFC has no rights to speech | Sep 19 08:41 |
| schestowitz[TR] | or to platform | Sep 19 08:41 |
| schestowitz[TR] | on TECHNICAL issues | Sep 19 08:41 |
| schestowitz[TR] | I onyl respost him on etchnical things | Sep 19 08:41 |
| mjg59_ | If he has the right to a platform on techrights.org, why don't I? | Sep 19 08:41 |
| schestowitz[TR] | but you say I should not | Sep 19 08:41 |
| schestowitz[TR] | DaemonFC is to you persona non grata | Sep 19 08:41 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and anyone you don't fancy | Sep 19 08:41 |
| schestowitz[TR] | you are a dfictator | Sep 19 08:41 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and you cannot realise this | Sep 19 08:41 |
| schestowitz[TR] | I never said deeploatform x y z from platform | Sep 19 08:42 |
| schestowitz[TR] | I can respond to them | Sep 19 08:42 |
| schestowitz[TR] | ridicule them | Sep 19 08:42 |
| mjg59_ | Plenty of technical stuff I write that you could repost | Sep 19 08:42 |
| schestowitz[TR] | you asre a dick-tator | Sep 19 08:42 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | <mjg59_> schestowitz[TR]: You *do* keep choosing to post articles written by a racist transphobe <mjg59_> You could simply not do that < shouldnt he stop posting about red hat too then? | Sep 19 08:42 |
| DaemonFC | I don't recall writing anything "transphobic" on my blog. | Sep 19 08:42 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | i mean i dont like dfcs transphobia or his backwards stance on what really amounts to eugenics | Sep 19 08:42 |
| schestowitz[TR] | red hat (ibm) helped hitler gas trans people | Sep 19 08:42 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | but when will ibm be held accountable | Sep 19 08:43 |
| schestowitz[TR] | you took salaries from them, | Sep 19 08:43 |
| schestowitz[TR] | for $100,000+ per year! | Sep 19 08:43 |
| schestowitz[TR] | nice "warrior" | Sep 19 08:43 |
| schestowitz[TR] | whose? | Sep 19 08:43 |
| mjg59_ | Nah pretty sure my salary was never that high | Sep 19 08:43 |
| DaemonFC | mjg59_: I did recently write about how the Democrats in Illinois will effectively repeal all of the police reforms in the Safe-T Act if their "Workers Rights Amendment" passes. | Sep 19 08:43 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | im pretty sure mjg uses github too | Sep 19 08:43 |
| DaemonFC | The police union will simply demand a new contract that omits everything the Safe-T Act requires of them. | Sep 19 08:43 |
| mjg59_ | And at the time RH didn't own IBM | Sep 19 08:43 |
| mjg59_ | Er, other way around | Sep 19 08:44 |
| DaemonFC | Then that'll be the end of the Safe-T Act. | Sep 19 08:44 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | why is github allowed, and even used as a platform | Sep 19 08:44 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | but dfc must be censored | Sep 19 08:44 |
| schestowitz[TR] | biab | Sep 19 08:44 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | i dont get how the standards work here | Sep 19 08:44 |
| techrights-news | "So you've just gotten a new Raspberry Pi, perhaps even the Raspberry Pi 4 or Raspberry Pi 400, and taken it out of the box." ☛ https://www.tomshardware.com/how-to/set-up-raspberry-pi | Source: Tom's Hardware | Sep 19 08:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tomshardware.com | How to Set Up a Raspberry Pi for the First Time | Tom's Hardware | Sep 19 08:44 | |
| highest_cubist_thrills | <mjg59_> You could simply not do that <- its clearly not simple | Sep 19 08:44 |
| DaemonFC | mjg59_supports people who help ICE murder immigrants and then bashes me. | Sep 19 08:44 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | its either VERY VERY complex, or conveniently arbitrary | Sep 19 08:44 |
| DaemonFC | Because I said Keith doesn't look good with lipstick. | Sep 19 08:44 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | and reasonable people dont LIKE That, because its NOT reasonable | Sep 19 08:44 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Sep 19 08:44 |
| DaemonFC | Could he get any better? | Sep 19 08:44 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | you can stop reading dfc if you dont like him | Sep 19 08:44 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | THAT actually IS simple | Sep 19 08:44 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | its what i do | Sep 19 08:45 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | and you can work to cancel people you dont like | Sep 19 08:45 |
| techrights-news | "Every operating system needs a way to install third party applications." ☛ https://klarasystems.com/articles/a-quick-look-at-the-history-of-package-management-on-freebsd/ | Source: Klara | Sep 19 08:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-klarasystems.com | A Quick Look at the History of Package Management on FreeBSD - Klara Inc. | Sep 19 08:45 | |
| highest_cubist_thrills | which im not 100% against in theory | Sep 19 08:45 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | in practice its a giant pile of shit | Sep 19 08:45 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | but in theory... | Sep 19 08:45 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | but even if you do that | Sep 19 08:45 |
| mjg59_ | I'm not saying Ryan shouldn't have his own blog | Sep 19 08:45 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | im not saying github should be literally nuked from orbit | Sep 19 08:45 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | but why do people use it | Sep 19 08:45 |
| DaemonFC | mjg59_: Quit supporting companies that have contracts with ICE. | Sep 19 08:45 |
| DaemonFC | You racist. | Sep 19 08:45 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | also, if ryan is allowed his own blog | Sep 19 08:45 |
| DaemonFC | Immigrant basher. | Sep 19 08:45 |
| DaemonFC | See how that works? | Sep 19 08:46 |
| mjg59_ | I'm just saying that if you keep posting content written by an openly racist transphobe then it's legitimate to ask why he's given special treatment | Sep 19 08:46 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | why is roy not BY EXTENSTION allowed to mirror relevant articles from it/ | Sep 19 08:46 |
| mjg59_ | Oh yeah he's definitely allowed to | Sep 19 08:46 |
| techrights-news | "Arduino IDE 2.0 brings a number of improvements to the original IDE" ☛ https://www.tomshardware.com/how-to/use-arduino-ide-2 | Source: Tom's Hardware | Sep 19 08:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tomshardware.com | How To Use The New Arduino IDE 2.0 | Tom's Hardware | Sep 19 08:46 | |
| highest_cubist_thrills | then it's legitimate to ask why he's given special treatment <- i agree. | Sep 19 08:46 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | but where is the special treatment? | Sep 19 08:46 |
| mjg59_ | But when he chooses to mirror relevant articles from there but not from elsewhere? | Sep 19 08:46 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | well he decides whats relevant | Sep 19 08:47 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | along lines i dont agree with | Sep 19 08:47 |
| DaemonFC | mjg59_: What have you actually done to help anyone but yourself? | Sep 19 08:47 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | but nonetheless its his blog | Sep 19 08:47 |
| techrights-news | "The White House today released a regulatory framework designed to address risks in the cryptocurrency ecosystem" ☛ https://siliconangle.com/2022/09/16/white-house-releases-framework-regulating-digital-assets/ | Source: Silicon Angle | Sep 19 08:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-White House releases framework for regulating digital assets - SiliconANGLE | Sep 19 08:47 | |
| highest_cubist_thrills | i mean techrights | Sep 19 08:47 |
| mjg59_ | Yeah, it's definitely his space | Sep 19 08:47 |
| mjg59_ | He has the right to do whatever he wants there | Sep 19 08:47 |
| DaemonFC | I've worked for decades to help Immigrants even at my own personal expense when I had about $100 in the bank maybe. | Sep 19 08:47 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | he trusts dfc | Sep 19 08:47 |
| mjg59_ | But he doesn't have the right to argue he shouldn't be criticised for some of his choices | Sep 19 08:47 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | he doesnt trust you | Sep 19 08:47 |
| schestowitz[TR] | <mjg59_> I'm not saying Ryan shouldn't have his own blog | Sep 19 08:47 |
| schestowitz[TR] | you did | Sep 19 08:48 |
| mjg59_ | Where? | Sep 19 08:48 |
| schestowitz[TR] | you said I should not have him as guest author | Sep 19 08:48 |
| schestowitz[TR] | you said you became us citizen | Sep 19 08:48 |
| schestowitz[TR] | read about first am. | Sep 19 08:48 |
| mjg59_ | He'd still have his own blog if you didn't have him as a guest author | Sep 19 08:48 |
| schestowitz[TR] | i repost technical articles | Sep 19 08:48 |
| schestowitz[TR] | you want to deprive him of that | Sep 19 08:48 |
| DaemonFC | mjg59_: You could always lobby Roy's ISP to cancel him, or have a paralegal write more threats. | Sep 19 08:49 |
| techrights-news | "[Cryptocurrency]-assets are digital assets that are implemented using cryptographic techniques." ☛ https://www.whitehouse.gov/ostp/news-updates/2022/09/08/fact-sheet-climate-and-energy-implications-of-crypto-assets-in-the-united-states/ | Source: USA | Sep 19 08:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.whitehouse.gov | FACT SHEET: Climate and Energy Implications of Crypto-Assets in the United States - The White House | Sep 19 08:49 | |
| mjg59_ | Why do you not repost my technical articles? | Sep 19 08:49 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | roy imo has the same rights on roys blog that dfc has on dfcs blog | Sep 19 08:49 |
| mjg59_ | You have the right not to do so | Sep 19 08:49 |
| techrights-news | "The new system will use 99.95% less energy, according to the Ethereum Foundation." ☛ https://www.reuters.com/technology/ethereum-blockchain-has-completed-major-software-upgrade-co-founder-says-2022-09-15/ | Source: Reuters | Sep 19 08:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ethereum blockchain slashes energy use with 'Merge' software upgrade | Reuters | Sep 19 08:49 | |
| mjg59_ | There's no obligation | Sep 19 08:49 |
| schestowitz[TR] | <DaemonFC> mjg59_: You could always lobby Roy's ISP to cancel hi | Sep 19 08:49 |
| schestowitz[TR] | or lobby my webhost | Sep 19 08:49 |
| schestowitz[TR] | (already done) | Sep 19 08:49 |
| mjg59_ | But why would refusing to re-post Ryan's blog be a free speech issue when you already fail to re-post mine? | Sep 19 08:50 |
| schestowitz[TR] | <mjg59_> Why do you not repost my technical articles? | Sep 19 08:50 |
| schestowitz[TR] | bad track rtecord | Sep 19 08:50 |
| schestowitz[TR] | you lie a lot | Sep 19 08:50 |
| schestowitz[TR] | like you did about uefi | Sep 19 08:50 |
| schestowitz[TR] | I don't shitpost | Sep 19 08:50 |
| schestowitz[TR] | techrights has quality control | Sep 19 08:50 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | i wouldnt go that far | Sep 19 08:50 |
| DaemonFC | mjg59_ just goes straight for the hosting company or ISP because he's a malicious motherfucker. | Sep 19 08:50 |
| mjg59_ | And reposting stuff written by a transphobe meets your quality control? | Sep 19 08:50 |
| DaemonFC | He doesn't believe in free speech. He wants the Web to be like Reddit. | Sep 19 08:50 |
| mjg59_ | I mean, if so, that's fair! I disagree, but it's your space | Sep 19 08:51 |
| schestowitz[TR] | mjg59_: you worked for fucking nazis | Sep 19 08:51 |
| mjg59_ | When? | Sep 19 08:51 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | why is it okay for dfc to post to a blog | Sep 19 08:51 |
| DaemonFC | Every time you look at Reddit, it says "this was deleted" "that person was suspended". | Sep 19 08:51 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | but not okay for roy to repost it | Sep 19 08:51 |
| schestowitz[TR] | I don't repost for people who enable genocide, sorry | Sep 19 08:51 |
| DaemonFC | And then nothing indexed it, so it's like, "Why even waste time there?". | Sep 19 08:51 |
| mjg59_ | You realise that IBM bought Red Hat over 5 years after I left, right | Sep 19 08:51 |
| schestowitz[TR] | <DaemonFC> Every time you look at Reddit, it says "this was deleted" "that person was suspended". | Sep 19 08:51 |
| schestowitz[TR] | they have excuses | Sep 19 08:51 |
| schestowitz[TR] | for banning links to sites like techrights | Sep 19 08:51 |
| schestowitz[TR] | thewy lie about it beiong "inaccurate" | Sep 19 08:51 |
| schestowitz[TR] | or something to that effect | Sep 19 08:51 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and then lobbyists from ibm put pressure | Sep 19 08:52 |
| schestowitz[TR] | hacker news also | Sep 19 08:52 |
| schestowitz[TR] | same shit | Sep 19 08:52 |
| DaemonFC | Libera Chat can't permanently ban me. | Sep 19 08:52 |
| schestowitz[TR] | they always have censorship tricks up their sleeve | Sep 19 08:52 |
| DaemonFC | They can ban me all they want, but like, they can't make it stick. | Sep 19 08:52 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and mjg59_ fancies himself "cancel general" | Sep 19 08:52 |
| DaemonFC | Matrix.org went on a spree a while back where they banned me like 7 times and then gave up. | Sep 19 08:52 |
| mjg59_ | schestowitz[TR]: When did I work for nazis? | Sep 19 08:52 |
| techrights-news | "Åbo Akademi political science professor Kim Strandberg, who will serve as Haukio's opponent, took to Twitter to share the news." ☛ https://yle.fi/news/3-12628792 | Source: YLE | Sep 19 08:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yle.fi | First lady to defend doctoral thesis | News | Yle Uutiset | Sep 19 08:53 | |
| techrights-news | Twitter = foreign interference/Misinformation ☛ https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/18/us/womens-march-russia-trump.html | Source: New York Times | Sep 19 08:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | How Russian Trolls Helped Keep the Women’s March Out of Lock Step - The New York Times | Sep 19 08:53 | |
| highest_cubist_thrills | technically you work for them now | Sep 19 08:53 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | its just pro bono | Sep 19 08:54 |
| DaemonFC | There's other home servers, but they're not all that reliable. | Sep 19 08:54 |
| techrights-news | DRM, losses, and worse: Spotify steals from artists ☛ https://pluralistic.net/2022/09/12/streaming-doesnt-pay/#stunt-publishing | Source: CoryDoctorow | Sep 19 08:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pluralistic.net | Pluralistic: 12 Sep 2022 Spotify is a ripoff, a Spotify exclusive – Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow | Sep 19 08:54 | |
| highest_cubist_thrills | now, this is not a statement of fact. its a joke that is dangerously close to the truth | Sep 19 08:54 |
| DaemonFC | Matrix.org and Element are malicious software. | Sep 19 08:54 |
| DaemonFC | They keep taking working Web Standards compliant code and kerjiggering it into something that uses Chrome shit. | Sep 19 08:55 |
| techrights-news | [Old] "The remote attestation protocol proposed by IBM [3] is vulnerable to Man-In-The-Middle attack." ☛ https://seclab.stanford.edu/pcl/cs259/projects/cs259_final_lavina_jayesh/CS259_report_lavina_jayesh.pdf | | Sep 19 08:55 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | collective guilt obviously applies to everyone but those who wield it. | Sep 19 08:55 |
| DaemonFC | And then it won't work in SeaMonkey anymore properly. | Sep 19 08:55 |
| DaemonFC | I managed to fake my way past their browser sniffer. | Sep 19 08:55 |
| DaemonFC | It mostly works. | Sep 19 08:55 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | or your guilt here would not be worth disputing | Sep 19 08:55 |
| DaemonFC | It's probably Travis or Matthew again. | Sep 19 08:56 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | roy does not work for dfc | Sep 19 08:56 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | but he clearly works with him | Sep 19 08:56 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | albeit in a capacity that is pro bono | Sep 19 08:56 |
| mjg59_ | I genuinely try to do what I think is best for the wider community | Sep 19 08:56 |
| DaemonFC | Fuck off. | Sep 19 08:56 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | maybe roy does too | Sep 19 08:56 |
| mjg59_ | Sometimes other people might benefit as a result | Sep 19 08:56 |
| DaemonFC | mjg59_: The Microsoft community, maybe. | Sep 19 08:57 |
| mjg59_ | Oh yeah I absolutely do not doubt Roy's sincerity | Sep 19 08:57 |
| DaemonFC | Did someone there ask you to go on a tear about me again? | Sep 19 08:57 |
| mjg59_ | I think he's wrong, but I think he's sincere | Sep 19 08:57 |
| mjg59_ | So, in the same way Roy spends a bunch of time trying to convince me I'm wrong, I'll do the opposite | Sep 19 08:58 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | you can say that again and again again | Sep 19 08:58 |
| mjg59_ | But literally nobody is paying me to do so | Sep 19 08:58 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | no one pays him either | Sep 19 08:59 |
| schestowitz[TR] | you try to re-establish credibility | Sep 19 08:59 |
| schestowitz[TR] | that's why you come to a network | Sep 19 08:59 |
| mjg59_ | Right! There doesn't need to be a sinister paymaster behind the scenes for people to be opinionated | Sep 19 08:59 |
| schestowitz[TR] | as a hostile person | Sep 19 08:59 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▃▄▁▂▁▅▄▅▄▅▁▃▁▂▃▃▄▅▂▁▂▃▄▄▅▁▅▂▂▅▁▃▄▅▁ avg(k/sec) 17.66 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁██▁█▁████▁▁▁▃█▁█▁▄█████▁▁▃▁▁█▁ avg(k/sec) 89.91▕ swarm size (avg): 130.83 ⟲ | Sep 19 08:59 |
| schestowitz[TR] | in a network where you know that nobody welcomes you | Sep 19 08:59 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | There doesn't need to be a sinister paymaster <- but we know there is one anyway | Sep 19 08:59 |
| schestowitz[TR] | you are like a sick stalker | Sep 19 08:59 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | just they might not be paying you anything | Sep 19 08:59 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and anyone would judge that as such | Sep 19 08:59 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | i think its obviously youre happy to do this sort of thing pro bono | Sep 19 09:00 |
| mjg59_ | schestowitz[TR]: You keep posting about me - does that make you a sick stalker? | Sep 19 09:00 |
| schestowitz[TR] | mjg59_ = libels Torvalds, gets him sent to therapists (projection), then asks him how it went | Sep 19 09:00 |
| schestowitz[TR] | did the same to rms | Sep 19 09:00 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | i would never suggest that you require payment to do this | Sep 19 09:00 |
| schestowitz[TR] | he and his ilk | Sep 19 09:00 |
| schestowitz[TR] | SFC/Sharp | Sep 19 09:00 |
| schestowitz[TR] | abusing people | Sep 19 09:01 |
| schestowitz[TR] | trying to bully them by digital means | Sep 19 09:01 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and then plaaying "victim" | Sep 19 09:01 |
| mjg59_ | schestowitz[TR]: Or does it mean that you disagree with me on certain matters and want to express that? | Sep 19 09:01 |
| schestowitz[TR] | "CODE HAS FEELINGS TOO!!" | Sep 19 09:01 |
| techrights-news | Monopolies ☛ https://doctorow.medium.com/structural-adjustment-fded18104bbe | Source: Cory Doctorow | Sep 19 09:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-doctorow.medium.com | Structural Adjustment. Forthcoming in the November, 2022 issue… | by Cory Doctorow | Sep, 2022 | Medium | Sep 19 09:01 | |
| mjg59_ | I could just disagree with you elsewhere, but doing it here means we have the opportunity to have a real-time conversation and maybe understand each other better | Sep 19 09:01 |
| schestowitz[TR] | your work on acpi was ghood | Sep 19 09:02 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | and maybe understand each other better <- years of evidence suggest otherwise | Sep 19 09:02 |
| mjg59_ | I'm not sure how this amounts to stalking | Sep 19 09:02 |
| schestowitz[TR] | but you tries to take shortcuts | Sep 19 09:02 |
| schestowitz[TR] | by serving Microsoft | Sep 19 09:02 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and attacking people above you | Sep 19 09:02 |
| mjg59_ | highest_cubist_thrills: I do genuinely understand Roy better now! | Sep 19 09:02 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and now you got your palms burned | Sep 19 09:02 |
| techrights-news | [Old] "That’s the story of how we got here. Now let’s talk about where we’re going" ☛ https://locusmag.com/2021/07/cory-doctorow-tech-monopolies-and-the-insufficient-necessity-of-interoperability/ | Source: Locus Magazine | Sep 19 09:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-locusmag.com | Cory Doctorow: Tech Monopolies and the Insufficient Necessity of Interoperability – Locus Online | Sep 19 09:02 | |
| techrights-news | [Old] "They just moved from “platforms” to “protocols”, switching to increasingly decentralized systems" ☛ https://gizmodo.com/cory-doctorow-copyright-laws-tech-antitrust-1849376858 | Source: Gizmodo | Sep 19 09:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gizmodo.com | Cory Doctorow On 20 Years Of Copyright Wars | Sep 19 09:02 | |
| highest_cubist_thrills | I do genuinely understand Roy better now! <- perhaps, but i do not think it shows | Sep 19 09:03 |
| techrights-news | "Internet" Decentralized ☛ https://creativecommons.org/2022/09/18/better-internet-for-a-decentralized-web-conversations-from-camp/ | Source: Creative Commons | Sep 19 09:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-creativecommons.org | Better Internet for a Decentralized Web: Conversations from Camp - Creative Commons | Sep 19 09:03 | |
| highest_cubist_thrills | ive tried to help with that-- it didnt work, i wasnt surprised, and accepting my help was never required (or expected) | Sep 19 09:03 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | even if you accepted it, i doubt it would work | Sep 19 09:04 |
| schestowitz[TR] | people wish to be left along by "career mob" | Sep 19 09:04 |
| schestowitz[TR] | I'd rather focus on tuxmachines and stuff | Sep 19 09:04 |
| schestowitz[TR] | than waste time arguing with a malicious, hostile person in irc | Sep 19 09:04 |
| mjg59_ | And yet you keep reposting matieral written by a racist transphobe | Sep 19 09:04 |
| schestowitz[TR] | who exploits our free speech policy for time-wasting | Sep 19 09:04 |
| techrights-news | QAnon = Disinformation ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/09/19/erasing-qanon-fascism-a-case-study-in-black-comedy/ | Source: Counter Punch | Sep 19 09:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Erasing QAnon Fascism: A Case Study in Black Comedy - CounterPunch.org | Sep 19 09:05 | |
| DaemonFC | (03:04:36 AM) mjg59_: And yet you keep reposting matieral written by a racist transphobe | Sep 19 09:05 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | And yet you keep reposting matieral written by a racist transphobe <- again, what is the point of saying this | Sep 19 09:05 |
| *DaemonFC leaves mjg59_ in South Chicago at 3 AM. He's not racist so it should be just fine. | Sep 19 09:05 | |
| highest_cubist_thrills | what is the significance of him reposting dfc | Sep 19 09:05 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | while others repost ibm? | Sep 19 09:05 |
| techrights-news | Shannonwatch ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/09/19/the-roar-of-a-u-s-warplane-over-a-civilian-irish-airport/ | Source: Counter Punch | Sep 19 09:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Roar of a U.S. Warplane Over a Civilian Irish Airport - CounterPunch.org | Sep 19 09:05 | |
| highest_cubist_thrills | ibm is SURELY MUCH WORSE than dfc by any reasonable evaluation | Sep 19 09:05 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | 2019: stallman does not speak for free software | Sep 19 09:06 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | 2022: but if ibm does thats okay | Sep 19 09:06 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | according to edwin black, ibm did not merely PARTICIPATE in the holocaust of millions | Sep 19 09:07 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | they ORCHESTRATED IT for sheer profit | Sep 19 09:07 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | he goes so far as to say without ibm, hitler could have only killed "hundreds of thousands" | Sep 19 09:07 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | which is still terrible | Sep 19 09:08 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | obviously | Sep 19 09:08 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | but saying its better than killing millions is not hate speech, no matter how oversimplified it is | Sep 19 09:08 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | it puts ibm as responsible for MOST of the holocaust | Sep 19 09:08 |
| DaemonFC | mjg59_ only thinks I'm racist because he hasn't had a gun shoved in his face. | Sep 19 09:08 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | but dfc is a dick | Sep 19 09:08 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | ergo, lets stop reposting dfc | Sep 19 09:08 |
| DaemonFC | Maybe if he had, like I have, he'd shut his stupid fucking mouth for a change. | Sep 19 09:08 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | and promote ibm instead | Sep 19 09:09 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | i dont understand this logic | Sep 19 09:09 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | nor do i believe it is remotely an unfair way to frame this | Sep 19 09:09 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | war criminals: okay, racists NOT OKAY seems to be the order of the day | Sep 19 09:09 |
| DaemonFC | After I had the gun shoved in my face, I resolved that it was not going to happen again and started carrying. | Sep 19 09:10 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | and ironically, we are all expecte to Just Follow Orders | Sep 19 09:10 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | imo that kind of thinking is just bad shit waiting to happen | Sep 19 09:10 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | who knows | Sep 19 09:10 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | cancel ibm | Sep 19 09:10 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | then lets talk | Sep 19 09:10 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | because they are literally hitler | Sep 19 09:10 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | and no one gives a shit how many people repost literally hitler | Sep 19 09:11 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | i dont like dfc, but hes not as bad as ibm | Sep 19 09:11 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | i have an answer to all this | Sep 19 09:11 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | its scapegoating | Sep 19 09:11 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | people want to offer dfc as a sacrifice | Sep 19 09:11 |
| DaemonFC | I have an answer to this too. | Sep 19 09:11 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | in hopes that somehow ibm will suffer | Sep 19 09:12 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | i have a better idea | Sep 19 09:12 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | cancel ibm first. | Sep 19 09:12 |
| DaemonFC | Make Matthew Garrett go walking through South Chicago around this time of night. | Sep 19 09:12 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | my stance on drugs is the same | Sep 19 09:12 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | go after the big players, leave people smoking pot at home alone. | Sep 19 09:12 |
| DaemonFC | They'll say "What's the matter? Did you get lost?" and then they'll mug him and maybe they'll dump him in the garbage when they're done. | Sep 19 09:12 |
| DaemonFC | Because that's how they are down there. | Sep 19 09:12 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | if you want a war on drugs, you get a mess but no progress | Sep 19 09:13 |
| *DaemonFC (~DaemonFC@zx4r4gr9htgby.irc) has left #techrights (Leaving.) | Sep 19 09:13 | |
| highest_cubist_thrills | in fairness, i think things have improved (a bit) as far as transphobia goes | Sep 19 09:13 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | but the free software movement, which was never fundamentally transphobic (on the contrary) was destroyed | Sep 19 09:13 |
| techrights-news | "I have a friend in Bellingham WA who does IT for Microsoft during the winter and works the cannery boats during the summer 'cause the boats pay better!" https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/09/15/062201#1272003 | Sep 19 09:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-soylentnews.org | Solar Foods Wants to Replace Industrial Animal Farming With a High-Tech Protein Harvest - SoylentNews | Sep 19 09:14 | |
| highest_cubist_thrills | like so many cases of mistaken identity in the drug war | Sep 19 09:14 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | find drug house, riddle it with bullets | Sep 19 09:14 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | oh, sorry family of 5! wrong house! | Sep 19 09:14 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | oops | Sep 19 09:14 |
| techrights-news | "There is lots more information in the quoted link. [JR] If you are an Arduino user, or any other single board computer, what do you use them for? Care to share some of your stories?" https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/09/15/0639246 | Sep 19 09:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-soylentnews.org | Enhancements to Arduino IDE - SoylentNews | Sep 19 09:14 | |
| highest_cubist_thrills | well, we have to fight the drug war | Sep 19 09:14 |
| techrights-news | Criticism intensifies after big oil admits ‘gaslighting’ public over green aims | Climate crisis | The Guardian ⚓ https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/sep/17/oil-companies-exxonmobil-chevron-shell-bp-climate-crisis ䷉ Source: The Guardian UK | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/sep/17/oil-companies-exxonmobil-chevron-shell-bp-climate-crisis | Sep 19 09:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Criticism intensifies after big oil admits ‘gaslighting’ public over green aims | Climate crisis | The Guardian | Sep 19 09:14 | |
| techrights-news | GMO propaganda, using STRAW MAN arguments https://www.inkl.com/news/who-s-afraid-of-gene-edited-crops/BaJMPLTlWbl patents, cancer etc. off the table? Are critics just "paranoid"? | Sep 19 09:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.inkl.com | Who’s Afraid of Gene-Edited Crops? | Sep 19 09:15 | |
| highest_cubist_thrills | people who support cancel culture remind me so much of people who think the death penalty is helpful | Sep 19 09:16 |
| techrights-news | "In the wake of the Hotfile lawsuit, the Motion Picture Association asked the court to keep some anti-piracy information forever out of the public eye." ☛ https://torrentfreak.com/unsealed-court-records-unveil-columbia-pictures-timeless-anti-piracy-secrets-220918/ | Source: Torrent Freak | Sep 19 09:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Unsealed Court Records Unveil Columbia Pictures' 'Timeless' Anti-Piracy Secrets * TorrentFreak | Sep 19 09:16 | |
| highest_cubist_thrills | funnily enough dfc is a member of the latter group | Sep 19 09:16 |
| geert | https://www.entremundos.org/revista/women/micromachismos-another-type-of-violence-against-women/?lang=en | Sep 19 09:16 |
| techrights-news | "New research shared by the entertainment industry-backed Digital Citizens Alliance finds that 12% of all ads on pirate streaming sites are linked to malware." ☛ https://torrentfreak.com/piracy-advertising-researchers-fall-victim-to-ransomware-attacks/ | Source: Torrent Freak | Sep 19 09:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.entremundos.org | MicroMachismos: Another Type of Violence against Women | EntreMundos | Sep 19 09:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Piracy Advertising Researchers Fall Victim to Ransomware Attacks * TorrentFreak | Sep 19 09:16 | |
| highest_cubist_thrills | he doesnt appreciate that the death penalty and cancel culture are practically identical in their stupidity | Sep 19 09:17 |
| schestowitz[TR] | highest_cubist_thrills: I know you are aware of the differences | Sep 19 09:17 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | of course | Sep 19 09:17 |
| schestowitz[TR] | but one that comes to mind is, one group does something illegal | Sep 19 09:17 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | cancel culture RARELY literally kills people | Sep 19 09:17 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | but its happened before | Sep 19 09:17 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | and tbh, the death penalty probably kills fewer people than ever | Sep 19 09:17 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and usually very reprehensible like mass murder | Sep 19 09:17 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | but only because so many countries have stopped practicing it | Sep 19 09:17 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | ibm is guilty of mass murder | Sep 19 09:18 |
| schestowitz[TR] | Uk reconsiders | Sep 19 09:18 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | one of the most high profile cases in the history of civilisation | Sep 19 09:18 |
| schestowitz[TR] | in the opposite direction | Sep 19 09:18 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | uk does a lot of stupid things | Sep 19 09:18 |
| techrights-news | Solar Flare ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/09/18/solar-flare-quiets-a-quarter-of-the-globe/ | Source: Hackaday | Sep 19 09:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Solar Flare Quiets A Quarter Of The Globe | Hackaday | Sep 19 09:18 | |
| highest_cubist_thrills | both cancel culture and the death penalty are barbaric-- and sloppy | Sep 19 09:18 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | not necessarily to the same degree | Sep 19 09:18 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | but the defenses are similar in their wishful, and vengeful thinking | Sep 19 09:19 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | in a world of facts we would have better things to do | Sep 19 09:19 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | we have never lived in a world of facts | Sep 19 09:19 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | but we can try to imagine one | Sep 19 09:19 |
| schestowitz[TR] | death penalty in us misses the mark | Sep 19 09:19 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-18.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-19.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Sep 19 09:20 |
| schestowitz[TR] | many lack health coverage | Sep 19 09:20 |
| schestowitz[TR] | so have nothing to lose | Sep 19 09:20 |
| schestowitz[TR] | so do something very very horrible | Sep 19 09:20 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and then you ssay | Sep 19 09:20 |
| schestowitz[TR] | "but welle xcute you" | Sep 19 09:20 |
| schestowitz[TR] | like they care | Sep 19 09:20 |
| schestowitz[TR] | they were there before | Sep 19 09:20 |
| schestowitz[TR] | helpless enough to die from illness | Sep 19 09:20 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | i think youve tied together two things | Sep 19 09:20 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | and then implied a causal relationship | Sep 19 09:20 |
| schestowitz[TR] | right | Sep 19 09:21 |
| schestowitz[TR] | possible | Sep 19 09:21 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | when you can go elsewhere and find similar results, where that relationship does not exist | Sep 19 09:21 |
| techrights-news | UK under Liz Trump and Brexitnaro ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/09/19/why-our-electricity-prices-cant-be-left-to-bogus-free-markets/ | Source: Counter Punch | Sep 19 09:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why Our Electricity Prices Can’t Be Left to Bogus ‘Free Markets’ - CounterPunch.org | Sep 19 09:21 | |
| highest_cubist_thrills | you would have probably been more accurate if youd looked at racism rather than healthcare | Sep 19 09:22 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | either way, the death penalty is stupid | Sep 19 09:22 |
| techrights-news | UK monarchy has two heads: parties and the Crown. PM: "She was voted in, in a country of around 69 million people, by 81,326 (57.4% of the total gaggle)" ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/09/19/uk-fragmentation-and-decline-under-conservative-rule/ | Source: Counter Punch | Sep 19 09:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-UK: Fragmentation and Decline Under Conservative Rule - CounterPunch.org | Sep 19 09:22 | |
| highest_cubist_thrills | so is cancel culture | Sep 19 09:22 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | for similar reasons | Sep 19 09:22 |
| techrights-news | China has 'won' ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/09/19/china-is-the-worlds-largest-economy-get-over-it/ | Source: Counter Punch | Sep 19 09:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-China is the World’s Largest Economy: Get Over It - CounterPunch.org | Sep 19 09:23 | |
| highest_cubist_thrills | a lot of people only supposed the death penalty because they think lethal injection is like taking a nap | Sep 19 09:23 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | not burning or suffocating (or both) | Sep 19 09:23 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | hanging is nasty, other methods are gruesome | Sep 19 09:23 |
| schestowitz[TR] | it's expensive too | Sep 19 09:23 |
| schestowitz[TR] | the excuttions are epxnesive | Sep 19 09:23 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | lethal injection is like going to sleep! (they believe) | Sep 19 09:23 |
| schestowitz[TR] | inc. the legal process needed to reach them | Sep 19 09:23 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | so they support it because they think its not barbaric | Sep 19 09:23 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | similarly | Sep 19 09:24 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | a lot of people who support cancel culture | Sep 19 09:24 |
| schestowitz[TR] | "humane gas" | Sep 19 09:24 |
| schestowitz[TR] | look it up | Sep 19 09:24 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | do not believe it is a form of collective torture | Sep 19 09:24 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | that it is barbaric or sloppy | Sep 19 09:24 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | they mistake mobs for democracy | Sep 19 09:24 |
| schestowitz[TR] | btw, us killed people in gas chambers until the 1970s iirc | Sep 19 09:24 |
| schestowitz[TR] | their pilot was in europe, I suppose | Sep 19 09:24 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | yeah i dont know who made them | Sep 19 09:24 |
| schestowitz[TR] | with their "humane gas" | Sep 19 09:24 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | was it ge? | Sep 19 09:24 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | also there are 50 states and i think very few used the gas chamber. im sure its more than one but i only know of california | Sep 19 09:25 |
| schestowitz[TR] | not sure | Sep 19 09:25 |
| schestowitz[TR] | i remmeber reading about the business of lethal injections | Sep 19 09:25 |
| schestowitz[TR] | some firms make a killing off it | Sep 19 09:25 |
| schestowitz[TR] | patents, I suppose | Sep 19 09:25 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | haha | Sep 19 09:25 |
| schestowitz[TR] | anyway, the us decided ga chambers were not fashionable anymore | Sep 19 09:25 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and the same with denying women the right to vote | Sep 19 09:26 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | people dont think cancel culture is disproportionate or cruel | Sep 19 09:26 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | theyre either naive or sociopathic | Sep 19 09:26 |
| techrights-news | "She didn’t have the money to finish repairs on the home, which she couldn’t afford to insure" ☛ https://www.propublica.org/article/lake-charles-waits-years-for-long-term-federal-aid | Source: Pro Publica | Sep 19 09:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.propublica.org | Lake Charles Still Waits for Long-Term Disaster Aid — ProPublica | Sep 19 09:26 | |
| highest_cubist_thrills | the naive dont know any better, and the sociopaths dont care either way | Sep 19 09:26 |
| techrights-news | More blackouts... because the country doesn't give a crap about the poor ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/09/18/first-hit-privatization-puerto-rico-total-blackout-fiona-makes-landfall | Source: Common Dreams | Sep 19 09:27 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | needless to say cancel culture draws in a lot of sociopaths | Sep 19 09:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | First Hit by Privatization, Puerto Rico in 'Total Blackout' as Fiona Makes Landfall | Sep 19 09:27 | |
| highest_cubist_thrills | gives them an advantage in running things like the fsf... | Sep 19 09:27 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | or lieplanet, which runs the fsf | Sep 19 09:27 |
| schestowitz[TR] | <highest_cubist_thrills> needless to say cancel culture draws in a lot of sociopaths | Sep 19 09:27 |
| schestowitz[TR] | they get a thrill | Sep 19 09:27 |
| schestowitz[TR] | shrill | Sep 19 09:27 |
| schestowitz[TR] | post some lies | Sep 19 09:27 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | it also preys on the naive | Sep 19 09:27 |
| schestowitz[TR] | like a sign on a door | Sep 19 09:27 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and wait for outcome of the brigade | Sep 19 09:27 |
| schestowitz[TR] | get rewarded in twitter "likes" | Sep 19 09:27 |
| schestowitz[TR] | 80% of tem from Russian bots ;-) | Sep 19 09:27 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | a system of justice that rewards sociopaths disproportionately and preys on the naive | Sep 19 09:28 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | probably shouldnt be referred to as "justice" at all | Sep 19 09:28 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | more like "sadism for an alleged good cause" | Sep 19 09:28 |
| techrights-news | "PyLint is actually good!" ☛ https://opensource.com/article/22/9/pylint-good-bad-ugly | Source: OpenSource.com | Sep 19 09:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-PyLint: The good, the bad, and the ugly | Opensource.com | Sep 19 09:28 | |
| highest_cubist_thrills | sometimes the cause is good | Sep 19 09:29 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | only the methods are bullshit | Sep 19 09:29 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | stopping murder is good | Sep 19 09:29 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | the death penalty may stop a few from murdering again | Sep 19 09:29 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | it also murders a few itself | Sep 19 09:29 |
| techrights-news | "While useful in managing your system, the command line is fraught with risks." ☛ https://www.tecmint.com/dangerous-linux-commands/ | Source: TecMint | Sep 19 09:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tecmint.com | Most Dangerous Commands - You Should Never Execute on Linux | Sep 19 09:30 | |
| highest_cubist_thrills | its also barbaric | Sep 19 09:30 |
| techrights-news | "Even how to gain Linux driver functionality will be taught to you!" ☛ https://linuxtechlab.com/how-to-get-started-with-linux-a-beginners-guide/ | Source: LinuxTechLab | Sep 19 09:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How To Get Started With Linux: A Beginner's Guide - LinuxTechLab | Sep 19 09:31 | |
| highest_cubist_thrills | but seriously, when i hear arguments from death penalty advocates | Sep 19 09:32 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | and cancel culture advocates | Sep 19 09:32 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | the stakes may be higher with one than the other | Sep 19 09:32 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | but the arguments sound roughly the same | Sep 19 09:32 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | theyre trying to END a person | Sep 19 09:32 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | simply by different degrees | Sep 19 09:32 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | it doesnt really matter to them how many innocents suffer from it | Sep 19 09:33 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | but they will still play that angle in hopes of getting to do more of it | Sep 19 09:33 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | they say its to stop murder or bigotry | Sep 19 09:33 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | but it doesnt really do that | Sep 19 09:33 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | imo education has done far more to stop bigotry | Sep 19 09:34 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | maybe a small percentage of cancel culture and even rioting has helped | Sep 19 09:34 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | so if a small percentage of it is actually needed | Sep 19 09:34 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | then whatever, really | Sep 19 09:34 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | but thats a big if imo | Sep 19 09:35 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | and a large percentage is definitely doing far more harm than good | Sep 19 09:35 |
| techrights-news | "someone suggested that having employers be able to restrict keys to machines they control is a bad thing. So here's why I think Bring Your Own Device (BYOD) scenarios are bad not only for employers, but also for users." Biologist pretends to be security guru again. Imposter. https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/61089.html | Sep 19 09:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mjg59.dreamwidth.org | mjg59 | Bring Your Own Disaster | Sep 19 09:35 | |
| highest_cubist_thrills | if a small percentage of it is actually needed <- this would be needed, HYPOTHETICALLY | Sep 19 09:36 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | to get the opportunity to even educate the public | Sep 19 09:36 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | what i mean is | Sep 19 09:36 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | it takes a shitload of fucking with people | Sep 19 09:36 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | to try to control everything they say | Sep 19 09:36 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | sometimes it does take a little bit of fucking with people | Sep 19 09:37 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | to get to speak for a cause that no one cared about before | Sep 19 09:37 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | so like if they had to shake shit up at nbc or something | Sep 19 09:37 |
| mjg59_ | schestowitz[TR]: And yet you talk about free software without having a degree in free software. Interesting. | Sep 19 09:37 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | and take down a few hypocrites with cancel culture tactics | Sep 19 09:37 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | if thats really necessary, i wouldnt care. | Sep 19 09:37 |
| techrights-news | x supports free software. x also supports corporations controlling all the workers' devices, i.e. no freedom at all. | Sep 19 09:38 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | then once they have the platform they can use it to discuss rights that "no one" cared about before | Sep 19 09:38 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | but i do think education played most of the ACTUAL heroics | Sep 19 09:38 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | and censorship did very little to help | Sep 19 09:38 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | they crow about its successes | Sep 19 09:39 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | but people crow about mass surveillance too | Sep 19 09:39 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | its illegal and no one can prove it works | Sep 19 09:39 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | doesnt stop people from saying "FUCK YEAH! WE SPEND MORE THAN THE REST OF THE WORLD ON THAT!" | Sep 19 09:39 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | and it does very little | Sep 19 09:39 |
| techrights-news | Free software advocates: people should be in control of devices, not the other way around. Suckers to corporate money: corporations own their staff "100% of the time". | Sep 19 09:40 |
| mjg59_ | Users should be in control of their devices. Employers should be in control of their devices. | Sep 19 09:40 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | its nearly that simple, maybe | Sep 19 09:41 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | but there are obviously examples where that formula wont fly | Sep 19 09:41 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | i mean | Sep 19 09:41 |
| mjg59_ | Users should never be forced to let employers control the user's device. | Sep 19 09:41 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | employers own the toilets, they clearly have no right to put cameras in the toilets | Sep 19 09:41 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | there are less absurd examples, but i think thats a reasonable place to start | Sep 19 09:41 |
| mjg59_ | Yeah, but that's something where we can actually draw meaningful boundaries | Sep 19 09:42 |
| mjg59_ | We know that when a user enters a bathroom, they're doing so with an expectation of privacy | Sep 19 09:42 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | im against the sort of monitoring and conditioning amazon and ups use on their warehouse people and delivery people respectively | Sep 19 09:42 |
| mjg59_ | When a user enters a URL into a browser, we have no idea what their intent is | Sep 19 09:42 |
| mjg59_ | And the easiest way to solve that is to have two devices | Sep 19 09:43 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | sadly | Sep 19 09:43 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | its wasteful but it solves something | Sep 19 09:43 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | you can end up with 3 phones that way | Sep 19 09:43 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | work phone, personal work phone, actual personal phone | Sep 19 09:43 |
| mjg59_ | But the other thing is what happens if you *do* get hacked | Sep 19 09:43 |
| techrights-news | UPDATE: Kernel prepatch 6.0-rc6 [LWN.net] https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/19/Linux_6_0_rc6.shtml | Sep 19 09:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Linux 6.0-rc6 (UPDATED) | Sep 19 09:44 | |
| mjg59_ | Your security team probably wants to look at what happened on the device | Sep 19 09:44 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | of course | Sep 19 09:44 |
| techrights-news | The above video and the latest IRS filing reveal that 'splinter group' SFC is increasingly about money (F for finance) instead of freedom http://techrights.org/2022/09/19/sfc-salaries/ | Sep 19 09:44 |
| mjg59_ | But if it's your personal laptop that has all your existing login sessions, you don't want to hand it over | Sep 19 09:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Free as in Finance/Money: Salary of SFC’s Chief Rose to $216,000 Per Year ($18,000 Per Month), or More Than Twice the FSF’s Chief | Techrights | Sep 19 09:44 | |
| highest_cubist_thrills | from their pov thats completely reasonable | Sep 19 09:44 |
| mjg59_ | And that's bad for everyone | Sep 19 09:44 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | right from the users pov that too is reasonable | Sep 19 09:44 |
| schestowitz[TR] | i will do a video on this topic later | Sep 19 09:44 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | should be amusing | Sep 19 09:45 |
| schestowitz[TR] | yesterday went went past the royal eye hsopital | Sep 19 09:45 |
| schestowitz[TR] | where I had given a talk to the staff... on security | Sep 19 09:45 |
| schestowitz[TR] | when I was 22 | Sep 19 09:45 |
| mjg59_ | So yeah there's an argument that it's wasteful | Sep 19 09:45 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | it is wasteful | Sep 19 09:45 |
| schestowitz[TR] | you are no sf advocate | Sep 19 09:45 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | maybe its the best idea we have | Sep 19 09:45 |
| schestowitz[TR] | you are a phony basically | Sep 19 09:45 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | but its unquestionably wasteful | Sep 19 09:45 |
| mjg59_ | But if you give someone a laptop and say "This belongs to us, use it for work, we can see what you do when you're using it" then that means people know to do their personal stuff on another laptop | Sep 19 09:45 |
| schestowitz[TR] | <mjg59_> Your security team probably wants to look at what happened on the device | Sep 19 09:46 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and impose WINDOSWS on it | Sep 19 09:46 |
| schestowitz[TR] | for "forensics" | Sep 19 09:46 |
| mjg59_ | ? | Sep 19 09:46 |
| schestowitz[TR] | you miss the point totally and entirely | Sep 19 09:46 |
| mjg59_ | Er | Sep 19 09:46 |
| schestowitz[TR] | you would also advocate proctoring and reootkits | Sep 19 09:46 |
| schestowitz[TR] | for "security" | Sep 19 09:46 |
| schestowitz[TR] | we need to spy on everything | Sep 19 09:46 |
| schestowitz[TR] | for "security" | Sep 19 09:46 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | his point would still apply in a world with only one operating system | Sep 19 09:46 |
| schestowitz[TR] | you are like NSA | Sep 19 09:46 |
| mjg59_ | I've just been pretty clear that it's inappropriate to impose stuff on a user's own machine | Sep 19 09:47 |
| schestowitz[TR] | I will do a video rebuttal later | Sep 19 09:47 |
| schestowitz[TR] | this is like the ISO lunacy | Sep 19 09:47 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | rebuttal of what | Sep 19 09:47 |
| schestowitz[TR] | "security" certs (toilet paper) | Sep 19 09:47 |
| schestowitz[TR] | just for a catalogue of serial numbers of devices | Sep 19 09:47 |
| schestowitz[TR] | without checking what goes on them | Sep 19 09:47 |
| schestowitz[TR] | tick-boxes | Sep 19 09:47 |
| mjg59_ | If I lend someone my laptop that doesn't mean they should have the freedom to do whatever they want to with it | Sep 19 09:47 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | but if they have physical access... | Sep 19 09:48 |
| schestowitz[TR] | security is not that | Sep 19 09:48 |
| schestowitz[TR] | likle 'secure' boot | Sep 19 09:48 |
| schestowitz[TR] | yeah, let NSA enabler Microsdoft | Sep 19 09:48 |
| schestowitz[TR] | decideds if I can booot MY OS on MY device | Sep 19 09:48 |
| schestowitz[TR] | that's NOT security | Sep 19 09:48 |
| schestowitz[TR] | that's a security BREACH | Sep 19 09:48 |
| schestowitz[TR] | it's NSA and Microsoft denying me access to my OWN device | Sep 19 09:48 |
| schestowitz[TR] | biab | Sep 19 09:48 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | its fun to watch the wheels turn | Sep 19 09:49 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | if you listen closely enough you can hear the hamsters | Sep 19 09:49 |
| mjg59_ | Every x86 secure boot system shipped has allowed you to configure it to block Windows from booting but allow Linux to boot | Sep 19 09:49 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | thats not a very realistic scenario though. | Sep 19 09:49 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | the opposite is basically a predictable outcome | Sep 19 09:50 |
| techrights-news | When a LACK of security gets redefined as "security" (a la NSA) you know you are dealing with career liars | Sep 19 09:50 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | similarly, if you bloat a project to the point where only a large corporation can maintain it | Sep 19 09:50 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | and dont make it separate parts that smaller teams can maintain | Sep 19 09:50 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | you can predict the outcome of that, too | Sep 19 09:51 |
| mjg59_ | I've deployed systems that were explicitly configured so they'd run Linux but not Windows | Sep 19 09:51 |
| techrights-news | Gulager: devices you own and control are a "DISASTER". FSF: give this man a Free Software Award!! | Sep 19 09:51 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | that does not address the point i just made | Sep 19 09:51 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | alternatively, my point did address the one you made | Sep 19 09:51 |
| mjg59_ | I don't think it's the common case | Sep 19 09:51 |
| mjg59_ | But the technology allows that | Sep 19 09:51 |
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| highest_cubist_thrills | you said that exactly 2 m,inutes ago | Sep 19 09:52 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | Every x86 secure boot system shipped has allowed you to configure it to block Windows from booting but allow Linux to boot | Sep 19 09:52 |
| mjg59_ | Right I just want to disagree with the idea that the technology is inherently biased in one direction | Sep 19 09:52 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | ah | Sep 19 09:53 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | it allows = it isnt biased | Sep 19 09:53 |
| techrights-news | "But once you start thinking about security, it gets more complicated." Esp. if you never studied CS and instead studied biology. Understanding security is... complicated. | Sep 19 09:53 |
| mjg59_ | I do agree that given commercial incentives there's an externally imposed bias | Sep 19 09:53 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | you can allow black people to rent in your neighbourhood | Sep 19 09:53 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | and still have a bias | Sep 19 09:53 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | even a bias against them renting there | Sep 19 09:53 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | with real results | Sep 19 09:53 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | but still allow blacks per se | Sep 19 09:53 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | i think this is a fair way to frame the results of what microsoft offered the world in terms of firmware | Sep 19 09:53 |
| mjg59_ | Yeah redlining is a real example of that sort of thing | Sep 19 09:53 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | linux is welcome, we just need to run a few checks | Sep 19 09:54 |
| techrights-news | RMS worked around passwords in MIT. Free Software Award winner: DISASTER!! | Sep 19 09:54 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | maybe an even better metaphor is racially biased election fraud | Sep 19 09:54 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | because theyre allowed to vote | Sep 19 09:55 |
| techrights-news | Bill Gates sabotages computer networks. "Justice" warrior: no comment http://techrights.org/2013/01/24/bill-gates-and-viruses/ | Sep 19 09:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bill Gates “Uploaded a Virus he Had Written and Caused the Entire Network to Crash.” | Techrights | Sep 19 09:55 | |
| highest_cubist_thrills | we just go to towns with lots of black people | Sep 19 09:55 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | and make it considerably more difficult to vote | Sep 19 09:55 |
| techrights-news | How Bill Gates Sabotaged PCs to Make Business http://techrights.org/2008/11/20/sabotaging-for-a-living/ hey, let's have this man CONTROL WHAT OS YOU CAN BOOT ON 'YOUR' MACHINE | Sep 19 09:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | How Bill Gates Sabotaged PCs to Make Business | Techrights | Sep 19 09:56 | |
| highest_cubist_thrills | im certainly not saying microsoft is racist against gnu/linux | Sep 19 09:56 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | though it probably is | Sep 19 09:56 |
| schestowitz[TR] | http://techrights.org/2010/02/17/choice-versus-condition/ | Sep 19 09:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Nobody is Born a Microsoft Employee | Techrights | Sep 19 09:56 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | MS: not liking microsoft is racism | Sep 19 09:56 |
| schestowitz[TR] | MS = Mark Shuttleworth | Sep 19 09:56 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | im saying that they make it much more difficult to do something people have a right to do | Sep 19 09:56 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | in a way that benefits one side more than the other | Sep 19 09:56 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | and is clearly engineered for that purpose, while claiming to be something more innocuous or even noble | Sep 19 09:57 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | secure boot is election fraud for your pc | Sep 19 09:57 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | it disenfranchises free software users | Sep 19 09:57 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | without completely stopping them | Sep 19 09:57 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | what a wonderful feature | Sep 19 09:57 |
| techrights-news | An X11 Apologist Tries Wayland https://artemis.sh/2022/09/18/wayland-from-an-x-apologist.html | Sep 19 09:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-artemis.sh | An X11 Apologist Tries Wayland | Sep 19 09:57 | |
| highest_cubist_thrills | by the way, if we follow the republicans | Sep 19 09:59 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | the next move is to say free software users are lazy | Sep 19 09:59 |
| techrights-news | Banned in the USA ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/09/19/banned-in-the-usa/ | Source: Counter Punch | Sep 19 09:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Banned in the USA - CounterPunch.org | Sep 19 09:59 | |
| highest_cubist_thrills | which misses the point and reverses victim and offender | Sep 19 09:59 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | but corporations do that every day | Sep 19 09:59 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | if enough people are paying attention, they back off of that | Sep 19 10:00 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | and simply fall back on "well we literally dont stop anyone from actually voting" | Sep 19 10:00 |
| techrights-news | People who oppose BYOD are also the hotdesking boosters http://techrights.org/2022/06/23/epo-hot-desking/ | Sep 19 10:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO Management Behaves As If the Goal is to Shut Down and Outsource the Patent Office, Making a ‘Monopolies Bank’ Instead… or Having Rubber-Stamping With Kangaroo Courts Override the European Patent Convention (EPC) | Techrights | Sep 19 10:00 | |
| highest_cubist_thrills | "every vote was counted!" | Sep 19 10:00 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | every vote, yes. every voter, no | Sep 19 10:01 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | theres a nuance | Sep 19 10:01 |
| techrights-news | GPS-RTK Raspberry Pi Hat ☛ https://linuxgizmos.com/gps-rtk-raspberry-pi-hat-offers-high-precision-positioning-in-real-time/ | Source: Linux Gizmos | Sep 19 10:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/gps-rtk-raspberry-pi-hat-offers-high-precision-positioning-in-real-time/ ) | Sep 19 10:02 | |
| techrights-news | "pull request" is usually Microsoft term (GitHub), i.e. an attack on Git itself ☛ https://opensource.com/article/22/9/first-pull-request-merged | Source: OpenSource.com | Sep 19 10:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-I got my first pull request merged! | Opensource.com | Sep 19 10:03 | |
| techrights-news | Free as in Finance/Money: Salary of SFC’s Chief Rose to $216,000 Per Year ($18,000 Per Month), or More Than Twice the FSF’s Chief | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/09/19/sfc-salaries/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/09/19/sfc-salaries/ | Sep 19 10:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Free as in Finance/Money: Salary of SFC’s Chief Rose to $216,000 Per Year ($18,000 Per Month), or More Than Twice the FSF’s Chief | Techrights | Sep 19 10:09 | |
| highest_cubist_thrills | when microsoft talks about "creating stickiness" theyre talking about election fraud for your computing | Sep 19 10:10 |
| techrights-news | IRC Proceedings: Sunday, September 18, 2022 | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/09/19/irc-log-180922/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/09/19/irc-log-180922/ | Sep 19 10:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Sunday, September 18, 2022 | Techrights | Sep 19 10:10 | |
| highest_cubist_thrills | gnome and freedesktop are experts on stickiness | Sep 19 10:10 |
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| highest_cubist_thrills | probably from developers jerking users around all day | Sep 19 10:11 |
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| techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-18.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-19.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Sep 19 10:20 |
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| *Now talking on #techrights | Sep 19 10:41 | |
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| techrights-news | "Luca Goldmansour critiques corporate media's narratives about student debt relief." ☛ https://scheerpost.com/2022/09/18/corporate-media-is-trying-to-convince-people-student-debt-forgiveness-is-bad/ | Source: Scheerpost | Sep 19 10:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Corporate Media Is Trying to Convince People Student Debt Forgiveness Is Bad – scheerpost.com | Sep 19 10:49 | |
| techrights-news | "Mitchell Beer summarizes a report that reveals a green transition comes with huge savings" ☛ https://scheerpost.com/2022/09/18/shift-from-fossils-to-renewables-will-save-12-trillion-by-2050/ | Source: Scheerpost | Sep 19 10:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Shift from Fossils to Renewables Will Save $12 Trillion by 2050 – scheerpost.com | Sep 19 10:49 | |
| techrights-news | Robot ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/09/18/robot-opens-master-combination-locks-in-less-than-a-minute/ | Source: Hackaday | Sep 19 10:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Robot Opens Master Combination Locks In Less Than A Minute | Hackaday | Sep 19 10:50 | |
| techrights-news | "If you have more than one pet, you may know how hard it is to tell how much each furry friend is eating." ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/09/18/load-cells-to-get-the-right-pet-the-right-food/ | Source: Hackaday | Sep 19 10:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Load Cells To Get The Right Pet The Right Food | Hackaday | Sep 19 10:50 | |
| techrights-news | Vacuum ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/09/18/a-vacuum-pick-up-tool-for-not-a-lot/ | Source: Hackaday | Sep 19 10:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A Vacuum Pick Up Tool For Not A Lot | Hackaday | Sep 19 10:56 | |
| techrights-news | Banana Split ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/09/18/banana-split-macropad-is-dessert-for-your-desk/ | Source: Hackaday | Sep 19 10:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Banana Split Macropad Is Dessert For Your Desk | Hackaday | Sep 19 10:57 | |
| techrights-news | Gerrymandering ☛ https://truthout.org/articles/black-voters-are-fighting-racial-gerrymandering-in-louisiana/ | Source: TruthOut | Sep 19 10:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Black Voters Are Fighting Racial Gerrymandering in Louisiana | Sep 19 10:57 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▂▆▅▁▁▃▇▁▁▄▁▄▇▅▁▅▅▂▂▁▄▁▂▅▄▄▂▂▆▆▁▂▁ avg(k/sec) 17.25 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▇▂▃▁▁█▁▁█▁██▁▁▁█▂██▁█▁█▁▁▁█▁▁▂▁▂▁▁ avg(k/sec) 68.81▕ swarm size (avg): 146.90 ⟲ | Sep 19 10:59 |
| techrights-news | GAFAM ☛ https://truthout.org/articles/google-and-amazon-workers-demand-end-to-contract-that-fuels-israeli-apartheid/ | Source: TruthOut | Sep 19 11:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Google and Amazon Workers Demand End to Contract That Fuels Israeli Apartheid | Sep 19 11:03 | |
| techrights-news | "In June 2022, accounts for the Sovereign Grant, which cover funds for the official monarch and the household’s official expenses, was £86.3 million for the 2021-22 year." ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/09/19/royal-money-charles-iii-and-the-wealth-dimension/ | Source: Counter Punch | Sep 19 11:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Royal Money: Charles III and the Wealth Dimension - CounterPunch.org | Sep 19 11:06 | |
| techrights-news | Plunder ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/09/19/the-us-response-to-the-worlds-worst-humanitarian-crisis-seize-and-privatize/ | Source: Counter Punch | Sep 19 11:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The US Response to the World’s Worst Humanitarian Crisis: Seize and Privatize - CounterPunch.org | Sep 19 11:07 | |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): #HowTo Extract/Decompress a WAR File in Linux ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/19/extract_war_file.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/19/extract_war_file.gmi ∎ | Sep 19 11:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — How to Extract/Decompress a WAR File in Linux | Sep 19 11:09 | |
| techrights-news | "This weekend sucked. I had absolutely no reason to be at the dance performance on Saturday (i.e. it was a huge waste of my time), I’m dreading going to work because of my boss, and the cat dumped a glass of water on my laptop." gemini://eph.smol.pub/1663563557 | Sep 19 11:15 |
| techrights-news | Ochin Raspberry Pi CM4 carrier board is made for drones and robots - CNX Software ⚓ https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/09/19/ochin-raspberry-pi-cm4-carrier-board-drones-robots/ ䷉ Source: CNX Software | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.cnx-software.com/2022/09/19/ochin-raspberry-pi-cm4-carrier-board-drones-robots/ | Sep 19 11:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Ochin Raspberry Pi CM4 carrier board is made for drones and robots - CNX Software | Sep 19 11:17 | |
| techrights-news | pg_activity 3.0.0 has been released https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/pg_activity-300-has-been-released-2510/ | Sep 19 11:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.postgresql.org | PostgreSQL: pg_activity 3.0.0 has been released | Sep 19 11:17 | |
| techrights-news | "Looking for tips and deep dives on Linux, including Red Hat Enterprise Linux? Red Hat Developer has a wide range of content for you. These are some of our favorite and most popular articles, cheat sheets, and lessons to help you get the most out of Linux, along with underlying tools like GCC and Linux-based platforms like Docker" https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/09/19/best-ways-learn-about-linux-red-hat-developer | Sep 19 11:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developers.redhat.com | Best ways to learn about Linux from Red Hat Developer | Red Hat Developer | Sep 19 11:18 | |
| techrights-news | OpenHarmony development board borrows BBC Micro:bit edge connector - CNX Software ⚓ https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/09/19/openharmony-development-board-borrows-bbc-microbit-edge-connector/ ䷉ Source: CNX Software | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.cnx-software.com/2022/09/19/openharmony-development-board-borrows-bbc-microbit-edge-connector/ | Sep 19 11:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | OpenHarmony development board borrows BBC Micro:bit edge connector - CNX Software | Sep 19 11:19 | |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): 4 Best Free and Open Source Groovy Static Site Generators ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/19/4_Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Groovy_Static_Site_Generators.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/19/4_Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Groovy_Static_Site_Generators.gmi ∎ | Sep 19 11:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — 4 Best Free and Open Source Groovy Static Site Generators | Sep 19 11:19 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-18.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-19.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Sep 19 11:20 |
| techrights-news | "This is a story that I have encountered myself. I wrote about it in my journal, but for reasons that should be clear when reading this, the public version will be censored somewhat. However, it is not necessary to tell the story." gemini://isoraqathedh.pollux.casa/names.gmi | Sep 19 11:24 |
| techrights-news | ICBM Red Hat: banksters first! https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/9/updating-core-banking-strategy-9-lessons | Sep 19 11:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | Updating your core banking strategy: 9 lessons | The Enterprisers Project | Sep 19 11:25 | |
| techrights-news | ICBM Red Hat aiming for buzzwords, not substance https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/9/it-jobs-ai-roles | Sep 19 11:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | IT jobs: 3 essential AI roles to hire now | The Enterprisers Project | Sep 19 11:25 | |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): 13 Free and Open Source Webpage and HTML editors ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/19/13_Free_and_Open_Source_Webpage_and_HTML_editors.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/19/13_Free_and_Open_Source_Webpage_and_HTML_editors.gmi ∎ | Sep 19 11:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — 13 Free and Open Source Webpage and HTML editors | Sep 19 11:29 | |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Open Hardware: OpenHarmony and Raspberry Pi ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/19/y.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/19/y.gmi ∎ | Sep 19 11:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Open Hardware: OpenHarmony and Raspberry Pi | Sep 19 11:29 | |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Red Hat / IBM Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/19/Red_Hat_IBM_Leftovers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/19/Red_Hat_IBM_Leftovers.gmi ∎ | Sep 19 11:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Red Hat / IBM Leftovers | Sep 19 11:29 | |
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| techrights-news | Malicious lobbying group https://analyticsindiamag.com/shouldnt-linux-foundation-be-officially-present-in-india/ see how it misuses the "Linux" brand http://techrights.org/2022/08/28/linux-foundation-revenue-plunges/ | Sep 19 11:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-analyticsindiamag.com | Shouldn't Linux Foundation be Officially Present in India? | Sep 19 11:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation Revenue Plunges ($18,000,000 Decrease in One Year) and Jim Zemlin’s Wife Has Her Company Sued for Securities Fraud (Class Action) | Techrights | Sep 19 11:36 | |
| techrights-news | Microsoft Teams deemed unsafe to use by security researchers ⚓ https://www.androidpolice.com/microsoft-teams-desktop-keeps-auth-tokens-in-plaintext/ ䷉ Source: Android Police "And it's really all Microsoft's own fault" http://techrights.org/wiki/Microsoft_and_the_NSA | Sep 19 11:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidpolice.com | Microsoft Teams deemed unsafe to use by security researchers | Sep 19 11:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft and the NSA - Techrights | Sep 19 11:38 | |
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| techrights-news | Now with extra restrictions https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2022/09/19/the-document-foundation-releases-libreoffice-on-apples-mac-app-store/ | Sep 19 11:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.documentfoundation.org | The Document Foundation releases LibreOffice on Apple’s Mac App Store - The Document Foundation Blog | Sep 19 11:40 | |
| techrights-news | SFC and LF are not "moderates". They are corporate front groups, sellouts, weapons against the community. | Sep 19 11:47 |
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| techrights-news | ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/09/19/pgactivity-3-0-0-released/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/09/19/pgactivity-3-0-0-released/ | Sep 19 11:57 |
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| techrights-news | Links 19/09/2022: pg_activity 3.0.0 Released, Microsoft Teams a Security Hole http://techrights.org/2022/09/19/pg_activity-3-0-0-released/ | Sep 19 11:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 19/09/2022: pg_activity 3.0.0 Released, Microsoft Teams a Security Hole | Techrights | Sep 19 11:58 | |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Today's 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/19/today_s_leftovers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/19/today_s_leftovers.gmi ∎ | Sep 19 11:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — today's leftovers | Sep 19 11:58 | |
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| mixling | ohh, nice, gentoo already got an ebuild for app-editors/vis | Sep 19 12:31 |
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| mixling | it's gonna be a good day today | Sep 19 12:32 |
| mixling | whenever i can remove some hundreds of thousands of lines of code | Sep 19 12:33 |
| mixling | and lua-support is optional too with vis, i'll enable it | Sep 19 12:40 |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴: Google Android Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/19/Android_Leftovers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/19/Android_Leftovers.gmi ∎ | Sep 19 12:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Android Leftovers | Sep 19 12:43 | |
| mixling | vis editor supports an alternative implementation of POSIX regex, instead of libpcre/2: dev-libs/tre | Sep 19 12:47 |
| mixling | didn't know that existed, had not ever seen this pulled into as dependency by anythin yet, it was always libpcre | Sep 19 12:48 |
| mixling | there seems to be an entire eco-system flourishing somewhere, which isn't neither BSD nor GNU | Sep 19 12:48 |
| schestowitz[TR] | just did a 36-min rebuttal to https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/61089.html | Sep 19 12:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mjg59.dreamwidth.org | mjg59 | Bring Your Own Disaster | Sep 19 12:49 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | fake security is a religion now | Sep 19 12:49 |
| mixling | i say this to mjg59_: i'll roll-back to linux-2.4, gimme some opensource FSF endorsed hardware please | Sep 19 12:52 |
| mixling | so we together can inspect it's internals, to avoid security problems with it | Sep 19 12:53 |
| mixling | good for him, i am not employed by german ministry of the interior or military here | Sep 19 12:55 |
| mixling | i would reject all IBM MICROS~1 Wintel gear | Sep 19 12:56 |
| mixling | insted of relying on vendors and their promises, i defined minimum acceptance criteria, vendor-independent(!), and see any supplier match those criteria | Sep 19 12:56 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▂▁▂▆▁▅▃▁▃▃▃▁█▃▆▃▅▃▃▂▁▄▁▇▄▁▄▅▁▄▁ avg(k/sec) 26.48 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁██▂█▂▁█▁▁▁▄█▁▁▁▁▂▁█▁█▁█▂▅▇▁▁▁█▁ avg(k/sec) 74.16▕ swarm size (avg): 134.71 ⟲ | Sep 19 12:59 |
| mixling | the argument from mjg59_ implies, the employers (RAND Corp. Pentagon) and their hardware weren't the security threat themselves to me | Sep 19 13:04 |
| mixling | it is, what they, "made in USA" "five eyes" provided me with, it's what's heavily compromised | Sep 19 13:05 |
| mixling | besides, the entire bureaucratic apparatus here arranged well, i wasn't employed | Sep 19 13:06 |
| mixling | mjg59_: thank you | Sep 19 13:06 |
| schestowitz[TR] | being compromised is part of that secuity | Sep 19 13:06 |
| schestowitz[TR] | "security" means the "trusted ones" control you | Sep 19 13:06 |
| schestowitz[TR] | that's security | Sep 19 13:06 |
| schestowitz[TR] | imperialism spun as "national security" | Sep 19 13:06 |
| schestowitz[TR] | "war on terror'; | Sep 19 13:06 |
| mixling | the good news about this: all this shitware "made in USA", they cannot roll-back anymore to any decent state 20 years ago | Sep 19 13:08 |
| mixling | because they would loose their entire user-base and developers | Sep 19 13:09 |
| mixling | however, i can do it | Sep 19 13:09 |
| mixling | hence, mjg59_ has to live with heavily compromised systems they produced themselves, to enjoy their live with, as developer | Sep 19 13:09 |
| mixling | i am at the liberty, not to | Sep 19 13:10 |
| mixling | as I said, if the former soviet east-german semiconductor business had not been wrecked by the "liberation" in 1990 | Sep 19 13:10 |
| mixling | i had disconnected internet already, and anjoy my live as scientist in a library somewhere, outside the shitty city ghettos they created almost everywhere | Sep 19 13:11 |
| schestowitz[TR] | in east germany? | Sep 19 13:13 |
| schestowitz[TR] | didn't east germany outsourced ghettos to the east | Sep 19 13:13 |
| schestowitz[TR] | *outsource | Sep 19 13:14 |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): #HowTo Limit the HTTP Bandwidth in NGINX ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/19/limit_http_bandwidth.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/19/limit_http_bandwidth.gmi ∎ | Sep 19 13:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — How to Limit the HTTP Bandwidth in NGINX | Sep 19 13:14 | |
| mixling | schestowitz[TR]: the city ghettos were established in the west | Sep 19 13:14 |
| mixling | in east-germany/soviet-area; depends, Leipzig was one of the most heavily polluted cities on the plants | Sep 19 13:15 |
| mixling | this is where i grew up, the last remaining best breed of cold-war | Sep 19 13:15 |
| mixling | however, after 1990, i did believe it, all this propaganda rubbish of "freedom", which FSF perpetuates with their propaganda | Sep 19 13:16 |
| mixling | not anymore, obviously | Sep 19 13:16 |
| mixling | *planet | Sep 19 13:17 |
| techrights-news | Holiday Inn Parent Company Hacked Through Weak Password https://www.maketecheasier.com/holiday-inn-hacked-weak-password/ | Sep 19 13:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | Holiday Inn Parent Company Hacked Through Weak Password - Make Tech Easier | Sep 19 13:17 | |
| techrights-news | Where to download Parrot OS 5 Home Edition https://www.addictivetips.com/ubuntu-linux-tips/how-to-install-parrot-os-5-home-edition/ | Sep 19 13:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://www.addictivetips.com/ubuntu-linux-tips/how-to-install-parrot-os-5-home-edition/ ) | Sep 19 13:17 | |
| techrights-news | "The couple, going by the name of TeaPea, reached the BBC through Telegram and supplied screenshots, which IHG confirmed were authentic, that showed them gaining access to ICG’s Outlook emails, Microsoft Teams chats, and server directories." https://www.maketecheasier.com/holiday-inn-hacked-weak-password/ | Sep 19 13:19 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-18.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-19.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Sep 19 13:20 |
| mixling | however, i throw them all into the same bag: FSF, SFC, GNU, BSD, IBM, GAFAM "made in USA" and their minions | Sep 19 13:22 |
| mixling | schestowitz[TR]: do you remember why east-germans protested on the streets in 1989? | Sep 19 13:22 |
| mixling | the mass-surveillance of the secret service apparatus, and the population held captive by the government | Sep 19 13:24 |
| mixling | i mean, the electronics which were produced in east-germany, had never been as heavily tapped for spying than what mjg59_ and FSF "endorse" nowadays as "free" | Sep 19 13:24 |
| mixling | of cause, FSF award isn't a Stasi badge of honor | Sep 19 13:26 |
| mixling | mjg59_: don't worry, i can't bring my own hardware, because east-german semiconductors are defunct | Sep 19 13:27 |
| mixling | and, i haven't got access to precious NVA weapons stockpiles either, otherwise IBM Wintel Pentagon offices in east-germany were set on fire already | Sep 19 13:28 |
| MinceR | 19 085129 < geert> that you probably not become as old and inflexible as mincer seem sometimes :) | Sep 19 13:34 |
| MinceR | at the current tech level, you'll either become old or die young | Sep 19 13:34 |
| schestowitz[TR] | like babies with cancer | Sep 19 13:34 |
| mixling | needless to say, i am not an employee of yours, mjg59_, hence there is no need for any UEFI remote-shell connected to pentagon | Sep 19 13:34 |
| schestowitz[TR] | germany rejected securt e b oot | Sep 19 13:35 |
| schestowitz[TR] | pn the grounds of nationalk security | Sep 19 13:35 |
| schestowitz[TR] | US can remoately brick all PCs in Germany | Sep 19 13:35 |
| schestowitz[TR] | http://techrights.org/2012/11/29/uefi-insecurity/ | Sep 19 13:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | UEFI Apologists Versus Germany’s Government Judgment on UEFI Insecurity | Techrights | Sep 19 13:35 | |
| MinceR | 19 083348 < geert> well e.g. try get mincer educated as an example | Sep 19 13:35 |
| MinceR | yeah, just tell me that all my experiences were illusions and see if i laugh at you | Sep 19 13:36 |
| MinceR | 19 084650 < highest_cubist_thrills> someday, probably, russia will be communist again too | Sep 19 13:36 |
| MinceR | well, if russia doesn't get destroyed, it will probably become a colony of red china, i.e. "communist" | Sep 19 13:37 |
| techrights-news | Share files from your PC to your Steam Deck with this quick tutorial - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=x4_Sexd1UAw | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/x4_Sexd1UAw | Sep 19 13:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Share files from your PC to your Steam Deck with this quick tutorial - Invidious | Sep 19 13:38 | |
| techrights-news | But NSA is anti-security and pro-back doors (which it hilariously redefines as "security" https://containerjournal.com/features/nsa-security-best-practices-for-kubernetes/ | Sep 19 13:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-containerjournal.com | NSA Security Best Practices for Kubernetes - Container Journal | Sep 19 13:38 | |
| techrights-news | WP Briefing: Episode 39: Contributor Stories Live from WordCamp US! https://wordpress.org/news/2022/09/episode-39-contributor-stories-live-from-wordcamp-us/ | Sep 19 13:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wordpress.org | Episode 39: Contributor Stories Live from WordCamp US! – WordPress News | Sep 19 13:39 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | MinceR: maybe putin wants to borrow some chinese tanks | Sep 19 13:39 |
| schestowitz[TR] | originally modelled based on soviet designs | Sep 19 13:40 |
| schestowitz[TR] | russia used to have skilled engineers, so did hungary | Sep 19 13:40 |
| schestowitz[TR] | they left | Sep 19 13:40 |
| schestowitz[TR] | turns out communism puts off people | Sep 19 13:40 |
| techrights-news | Large-Scale Collection of Cell Phone Data at US Borders - Schneier on Security ⚓ https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/09/large-scale-collection-of-cell-phone-data-at-us-borders.html ䷉ Source: Bruce Schneier ... people should NOT carry such appliances across borders! | Sep 19 13:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Large-Scale Collection of Cell Phone Data at US Borders - Schneier on Security | Sep 19 13:41 | |
| MinceR | they knew that | Sep 19 13:41 |
| techrights-news | "“U.S. government officials are adding data from as many as 10,000 electronic devices each year to a massive database they’ve compiled from cellphones, iPads and computers seized from travelers at the country’s airports, seaports and border crossings,” the Washington Post reports." https://politicalwire.com/2022/09/15/customs-officials-have-copied-americans-phone-data/ | Sep 19 13:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-politicalwire.com | Customs Officials Have Copied Americans’ Phone Data | Sep 19 13:41 | |
| MinceR | that's why they built the berlin wall and the iron curtain | Sep 19 13:41 |
| techrights-news | Large-Scale Collection of Cell Phone Data at US Borders https://gizmodo.com/border-patrol-surveillance-cell-data-no-warrants-1849540504 | Sep 19 13:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gizmodo.com | Border Agents Surveil Americans' Phones Without Warrants: Wyden | Sep 19 13:42 | |
| techrights-news | Security 'pros' who carry around 'smart' phones are not smart | Sep 19 13:42 |
| geert | MinceR > it kind of add to this: < highest_cubist_thrills> but lets enter mincer mode < highest_cubist_thrills> whats the point of this? | Sep 19 13:43 |
| geert | so it wasnt to nullify the experience you got | Sep 19 13:43 |
| techrights-news | Intel buys voting power https://krita.org/en/item/intel-becomes-first-krita-development-fund-corporate-gold-patron/ | Sep 19 13:43 |
| geert | more like if one would ask 'whats the point' of certain stances, to say e.g. 'to educate mincer' | Sep 19 13:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-krita.org | Intel Becomes First Krita Development Fund Corporate Gold Patron | Krita | Sep 19 13:43 | |
| geert | well even if it would be incorrect you might have gotten information from it like who would hold incorrect opinions as an example | Sep 19 13:44 |
| geert | so maybe its better if one would get to state 'to TRY get mincer educated' | Sep 19 13:44 |
| techrights-news | [PATCH V4] LoongArch: Add ACPI-based generic laptop driver ⚓ https://lore.kernel.org/linux-acpi/20220919021540.2873061-1-chenhuacai@loongson.cn/T/#u ䷉ Source: kernel | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lore.kernel.org/linux-acpi/20220919021540.2873061-1-chenhuacai@loongson.cn/T/#u | Sep 19 13:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lore.kernel.org | [PATCH V4] LoongArch: Add ACPI-based generic laptop driver | Sep 19 13:44 | |
| techrights-news | Intel pushing Microsoft shit into Linux kernel. Proprietary Github and Rust. https://lore.kernel.org/rust-for-linux/20220919.103820.680182888079022491.fujita@lima-default/ | Sep 19 13:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lore.kernel.org | Rust e1000 driver (Intel Ethernet adapter) - FUJITA Tomonori | Sep 19 13:45 | |
| techrights-news | Top 5 Best Thermal Camera Apps for Android in 2022 ⚓ https://www.ubuntupit.com/best-thermal-camera-apps-for-android/ ䷉ Source: Ubuntu Pit | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.ubuntupit.com/best-thermal-camera-apps-for-android/ | Sep 19 13:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ubuntupit.com | Top 5 Best Thermal Camera Apps for Android in 2022 | Sep 19 13:46 | |
| techrights-news | [PULL] drm-intel-next - Jani Nikula ⚓ https://lore.kernel.org/dri-devel/87o7vfr064.fsf@intel.com/ ䷉ Source: intel | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lore.kernel.org/dri-devel/87o7vfr064.fsf@intel.com/ | Sep 19 13:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lore.kernel.org | [PULL] drm-intel-next - Jani Nikula | Sep 19 13:46 | |
| techrights-news | [PATCH v3 0/7] Fixups for s2idle on various Rembrandt laptops - Mario Limonciello ⚓ https://lore.kernel.org/linux-acpi/20220916182609.3039-1-mario.limonciello@amd.com/ ䷉ Source: amd | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lore.kernel.org/linux-acpi/20220916182609.3039-1-mario.limonciello@amd.com/ | Sep 19 13:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lore.kernel.org | [PATCH v3 0/7] Fixups for s2idle on various Rembrandt laptops - Mario Limonciello | Sep 19 13:47 | |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Firefox 105 Is Now Available for Download, Brings Better Performance on Linux Systems ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/19/Firefox_105_Is_Now_Available_for_Download.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/19/Firefox_105_Is_Now_Available_for_Download.gmi ∎ | Sep 19 13:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Firefox 105 Is Now Available for Download, Brings Better Performance on Linux Systems | Sep 19 13:57 | |
| techrights-news | Software Freedom is Not a Disaster and Those Who Oppose B.Y.O.D. Are a Monarch’s Dream | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/09/19/disastrous-security-arguments/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/09/19/disastrous-security-arguments/ | Sep 19 14:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Software Freedom is Not a Disaster and Those Who Oppose B.Y.O.D. Are a Monarch’s Dream | Techrights | Sep 19 14:05 | |
| techrights-news | [Meme] Only Fools and Horses Work for Microsoft Without a Salary | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/09/19/only-fools-and-horses-microsoft/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/09/19/only-fools-and-horses-microsoft/ | Sep 19 14:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Only Fools and Horses Work for Microsoft Without a Salary | Techrights | Sep 19 14:18 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-18.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-19.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Sep 19 14:20 |
| techrights-news | "Not my king" implies that another king can or should exist. "Not accepting kings" would be a clearer statement, but social control media giants (like Twitter, owned partly by the Saudi ROYAL family) control hashes and tags, trends and visibility. | Sep 19 14:23 |
| techrights-news | Slashdot Adding Microsoft GitHub to All Linux Pages in Order to Shill Proprietary Code Hosting | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/09/19/slashdot-github/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/09/19/slashdot-github/ | Sep 19 14:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Slashdot Adding Microsoft GitHub to All Linux Pages in Order to Shill Proprietary Code Hosting | Techrights | Sep 19 14:36 | |
| techrights-news | Our New Unelected Queen is Liz Trump (TruSS), Selected Undemocratically by About 1 in 1,000 Brits (0.1%) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/09/19/liz-trump/ | Sep 19 14:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Our New Unelected Queen is Liz Trump (TruSS), Selected Undemocratically by About 1 in 1,000 Brits (0.1%) | Sep 19 14:56 | |
| mixling | dynamically linked: vis ~0.2MiB, Vim ~2Mib ... i'll see soon, how this affects functionality of an editor | Sep 19 14:59 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▃▅▆▁▁▄▃▃▄█▅▃▄▂▄▄▄▃▅▅▁▂▅▃▆▅▇▃▃▅▅▁ avg(k/sec) 27.46 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁█▁▁▂▁█▁███▁▂▁█▁▁▁▁▁▁█▁▂█▁▃▂██▁▁▁ avg(k/sec) 158.98▕ swarm size (avg): 125.71 ⟲ | Sep 19 14:59 |
| mixling | seems vis builds upon sam editor: "Sam is the preferred text editor of several eminent programmers. It was the first full screen editor Ken Thompson liked" | Sep 19 14:59 |
| mixling | "... used by Bjarne Stroustrup, Brian Kernighan, Douglas McIlroy and Tom Duff" | Sep 19 15:00 |
| mixling | gathered some notable prominence i see | Sep 19 15:01 |
| mixling | meanwhile GNU EMACS and Vim slay each other with bloat... | Sep 19 15:02 |
| mixling | statically linked vis editor accumulates ~400KiB in size, not bad, i haven't integrated lua yet and the pcre library, won't make that big difference | Sep 19 15:02 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and gnu nano? | Sep 19 15:03 |
| schestowitz[TR] | if it's still gnu | Sep 19 15:03 |
| schestowitz[TR] | going back and forth | Sep 19 15:03 |
| mixling | vis is a modal editor, just like Vim | Sep 19 15:03 |
| mixling | the problem at that frontline is/was, the implementation variants of Vi, and vis fits into a niche | Sep 19 15:04 |
| techrights-news | We have our own “orange one” now… and she is also a flamboyant ‘COVIDiot’ https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/09/19/liz-trump/ soon we have two dictators, not one, whom nobody voter for. We're still monarchy, not democracy. It was the same with Brexitnaro (Borisnaro). | Sep 19 15:06 |
| mixling | nvi is the one from BSD, which got problems with it's dependency graph; not to mention Vim | Sep 19 15:06 |
| mixling | and Elvis had not got unicode support, hence it was abandoned | Sep 19 15:06 |
| techrights-news | Mr. Shim (Matthew Garrett, Microsoft 'asset') is telling us that people owning the electronic devices they use at work is a “disaster” http://techrights.org/2022/09/19/disastrous-security-arguments/ | Sep 19 15:06 |
| techrights-news | We’re meant to think that Microsoft controlling the computers of BSD and GNU/Linux users means greater safety and security; to some people, April 1st is every day http://techrights.org/2022/09/19/only-fools-and-horses-microsoft/ | Sep 19 15:07 |
| techrights-news | Slashdot used to be a pro-GNU/Linux site; now it’s run by very different people, but many make wrong assumptions about what the site actually is http://techrights.org/2022/09/19/slashdot-github/ | Sep 19 15:07 |
| mixling | schestowitz[TR]: emacs is entangled with LISP, which i must admit i have never programmed with | Sep 19 15:08 |
| mixling | hence this raises another question, the importance/relevance of lisp | Sep 19 15:09 |
| mixling | i do know, the GNU following, in particular RMS, appreciate lisp very much | Sep 19 15:09 |
| schestowitz[TR] | h e programmed in the 70s | Sep 19 15:09 |
| schestowitz[TR] | it was the c of the time | Sep 19 15:09 |
| mixling | with regards to lisp, it is emacs itself, which scares me away from it, lisp itself | Sep 19 15:10 |
| techrights-news | Linux for Beginners - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=10f4899srvc | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/10f4899srvc | Sep 19 15:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Linux for Beginners - Invidious | Sep 19 15:11 | |
| mixling | because, such a system, got a steep learning curve, and once a developer gets accustomed to such a system, departing is too a psychological issue | Sep 19 15:12 |
| mixling | and emacs itself is that heavily entangled with what i want do detangle from: gnu-buildystem and gnu-toolchain | Sep 19 15:12 |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴: Google Android Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/19/Android_Leftovers.1.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/19/Android_Leftovers.1.gmi ∎ | Sep 19 15:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Android Leftovers | Sep 19 15:13 | |
| mixling | and then, GNU is not Unix, as we all know | Sep 19 15:13 |
| schestowitz[TR] | mixling is not activelow | Sep 19 15:14 |
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| mixling | seems to me, the vis/oasis-linux gathering, is a grassroots movement, outside the scope of both BSD and GNU | Sep 19 15:18 |
| mixling | their workflow, is different, from the beginning, assuming the development workflow remains 100% source-based | Sep 19 15:19 |
| mixling | hence, for example, key-bindings of vis editor are configured inside a header file, for the sake of simplicity and mental health | Sep 19 15:19 |
| mixling | same with many other suckless.org components | Sep 19 15:19 |
| techrights-news | Testing the toolchain with GNU poke: assembling RISC-V instructions - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=n09mhw4-m_E | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/n09mhw4-m_E | Sep 19 15:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Testing the toolchain with GNU poke: assembling RISC-V instructions - Invidious | Sep 19 15:19 | |
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| mixling | GNU/GNOME/Debian however, their development and system-integration by design implies binary-distribution, and an administer not compiling the software used | Sep 19 15:20 |
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| techrights-news | Installation and First Look at Salix OS - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=4DF4IMr96No | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/4DF4IMr96No | Sep 19 15:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Installation and First Look at Salix OS - Invidious | Sep 19 15:20 | |
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| DaemonFC | mjg59_ has selectively quoted me to all of his 3 human followers on his Shitter bot farm. | Sep 19 15:21 |
| DaemonFC | LOL | Sep 19 15:21 |
| MinceR | will they cancel you? | Sep 19 15:22 |
| DaemonFC | I hope nobody tells mjg59_ (who does dealings with racists, immigrant bashers, Trump supporters, transphobes, and homophobes, and criminals and rapists at Microsoft) about South Park. | Sep 19 15:22 |
| DaemonFC | He'll explode with impotent rage. | Sep 19 15:22 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: mjg59_ would have liked for DrPizza (who also identified as a leftist before going to prison for trying to arrange to rape a 9 year old girl) to join him, but DrPizza is in prison. DrPizza also wanted Roy to cancel me. I'm sure Peter would have gotten along famously with Matthew Garrett. | Sep 19 15:24 |
| MinceR | indeed | Sep 19 15:24 |
| DaemonFC | DrPizza was on "Linsux" newsgroups bashing me for criticizing Microsoft. Back in 2009, I think? | Sep 19 15:26 |
| DaemonFC | He attacked me for criticizing Microsoft "PlayReady" DRM, which was in their TV tuner software. | Sep 19 15:26 |
| DaemonFC | It refused to record AMC, which had flagged itself as "Premium Content", making the DVR functionality in Windows useless. | Sep 19 15:27 |
| DaemonFC | "Oh, Windows has a DVR...." - Microsoft | Sep 19 15:27 |
| DaemonFC | They forgot to mention that Windows Media Center refused to record anything flagged as "premium", so there were entire channels, even on basic cable, that you couldn't DVR, unless you bought some other DVR software that didn't pay attention to that flag. | Sep 19 15:28 |
| DaemonFC | mjg59_ appears to willingly ignore the operative part of the sentence he quoted. | Sep 19 15:29 |
| DaemonFC | That a person who pours gasoline on themselves and sets themselves on fire was probably very mentally ill. | Sep 19 15:29 |
| DaemonFC | I struggle to think of a person operating correctly, or even somewhat close to it, who would light themselves on fire. | Sep 19 15:30 |
| mixling | every day the same, DaemonFC awakes, lures out of his mole-hole, and an instant later throws mud at mr. mathew | Sep 19 15:30 |
| DaemonFC | Especially over what some goddamned Internet troll says. | Sep 19 15:30 |
| DaemonFC | mjg59_ is an Internet troll, but I've dealt with worse. | Sep 19 15:30 |
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| DaemonFC | I had Peter Staley commit telephone harassment until he burned himself out because I mentioned that he's just a drug company advertiser now. | Sep 19 15:31 |
| DaemonFC | That was about 14-15 years ago I think. I just left the phone off the hook for a few days. I only had the phone because you had to have a phone to have DSL at that time. | Sep 19 15:32 |
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| schestowitz[TR] | <DaemonFC> mjg59_ has selectively quoted me to all of his 3 human followers on his Shitter bot farm. | Sep 19 15:32 |
| schestowitz[TR] | his parents are not bots | Sep 19 15:32 |
| schestowitz[TR] | from what I saw, many of his followers are Microsoft | Sep 19 15:33 |
| schestowitz[TR] | or bots, de facto drones, working for Microsoft | Sep 19 15:33 |
| DaemonFC | Is there some good reason why three whole alleged people killed themselves over what some fat slobs living in their parents' basements, who don't matter, said about them on some stupid Web forum? | Sep 19 15:33 |
| schestowitz[TR] | didn't know microsoft peter was on linsux | Sep 19 15:33 |
| DaemonFC | I say alleged people because of the fact that two of them haven't been proven to exist. | Sep 19 15:33 |
| schestowitz[TR] | maybe there is a strong correlation between people who hate linux and who hate adults... prefer to rape kids | Sep 19 15:33 |
| DaemonFC | They are just pseudonyms who we have to accept killed themselves, according to mjg59_ even though there's no citation linking them to an actual person. | Sep 19 15:34 |
| DaemonFC | The one person we know existed committed suicide by setting himself on fire. | Sep 19 15:34 |
| schestowitz[TR] | epo caused many suicides | Sep 19 15:34 |
| DaemonFC | Which I said is something that a mentally ill person might do. | Sep 19 15:34 |
| schestowitz[TR] | like 8 in a few yeras | Sep 19 15:34 |
| schestowitz[TR] | mjg59_ exposes EPO all the time | Sep 19 15:34 |
| schestowitz[TR] | for causing people to commit suicide | Sep 19 15:34 |
| schestowitz[TR] | with the corruption | Sep 19 15:34 |
| schestowitz[TR] | mjg59_ is a social justice warrior | Sep 19 15:34 |
| schestowitz[TR] | writes about sofwtare patents | Sep 19 15:34 |
| schestowitz[TR] | Red hat and Gulag probably made him apply for such patents LOL | Sep 19 15:35 |
| schestowitz[TR] | check uspto for his name | Sep 19 15:35 |
| schestowitz[TR] | see how many software patenes he has | Sep 19 15:35 |
| schestowitz[TR] | <DaemonFC> Which I said is something that a mentally ill person might do. | Sep 19 15:36 |
| schestowitz[TR] | one peoi employee did it | Sep 19 15:36 |
| schestowitz[TR] | worked in epo administratinopn | Sep 19 15:36 |
| schestowitz[TR] | it was on german tv | Sep 19 15:36 |
| schestowitz[TR] | caused by bad management | Sep 19 15:36 |
| schestowitz[TR] | mjg59_ wrote about it | Sep 19 15:37 |
| schestowitz[TR] | of course he did | Sep 19 15:37 |
| schestowitz[TR] | he is "social justice warrior" by his own description | Sep 19 15:37 |
| DaemonFC | Maybe he can petition Clownflare to quit hosting them. | Sep 19 15:37 |
| schestowitz[TR] | yeah | Sep 19 15:37 |
| schestowitz[TR] | epo is sexist | Sep 19 15:37 |
| schestowitz[TR] | too | Sep 19 15:37 |
| schestowitz[TR] | but | Sep 19 15:37 |
| schestowitz[TR] | nnaaa... bill gates | Sep 19 15:38 |
| schestowitz[TR] | womaniser | Sep 19 15:38 |
| schestowitz[TR] | remember when rms had nude pool parties? | Sep 19 15:38 |
| schestowitz[TR] | oh wait | Sep 19 15:38 |
| schestowitz[TR] | trhat was not rms | Sep 19 15:38 |
| DaemonFC | I always thought it was funny that an American company hosts the FBI and the Taliban and Child Pornography Web sites. | Sep 19 15:38 |
| DaemonFC | Nothing happens to them. | Sep 19 15:38 |
| schestowitz[TR] | https://nypost.com/2021/05/10/bill-gates-womanizer-held-nude-pool-parties-biographer/ | Sep 19 15:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nypost.com | Bill Gates 'womanizer,' held nude pool parties: biographer | Sep 19 15:38 | |
| DaemonFC | They just say, "Hey dude, we're just the web host!". | Sep 19 15:38 |
| schestowitz[TR] | rms has a mattress at his office | Sep 19 15:38 |
| schestowitz[TR] | the MFer!! | Sep 19 15:38 |
| schestowitz[TR] | seleeping in his ooffice | Sep 19 15:38 |
| schestowitz[TR] | he gets tired | Sep 19 15:38 |
| schestowitz[TR] | from the coding and activism | Sep 19 15:38 |
| schestowitz[TR] | wants to sleep | Sep 19 15:39 |
| schestowitz[TR] | while mjg59_ is busy at foss events | Sep 19 15:39 |
| schestowitz[TR] | https://www.phoronix.com/news/NVIDIA-ASI-2022-Linux-Dev | Sep 19 15:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-NVIDIA Working To Make Linux Safer For Cars, Robots & Other Safety Critical Environments - Phoronix | Sep 19 15:40 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | marketing material | Sep 19 15:40 |
| schestowitz[TR] | of nvidia | Sep 19 15:40 |
| schestowitz[TR] | just copy of the brochures! | Sep 19 15:40 |
| DaemonFC | I wonder what mjg59_'s "partner" thinks about him "not missing out". | Sep 19 15:40 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and then slides | Sep 19 15:40 |
| schestowitz[TR] | DaemonFC: it's OK | Sep 19 15:40 |
| schestowitz[TR] | as long as he uses the correct pronoun | Sep 19 15:40 |
| schestowitz[TR] | promiscuous people are too hypocritical to berate others over it | Sep 19 15:41 |
| schestowitz[TR] | that's why they pick on rms | Sep 19 15:41 |
| schestowitz[TR] | for total bs | Sep 19 15:41 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and falsehoods | Sep 19 15:41 |
| DaemonFC | I wonder if mjg59_ just treats his "partner" like John treated me. Abusively. Or if his partner is as much of a perverted degenerate as mjg59_ is. | Sep 19 15:41 |
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| techrights-news | Introduction to Nim language https://bkhome.org/news/202209/introduction-to-nim-language.html | Sep 19 15:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bkhome.org | Introduction to Nim language | Sep 19 15:43 | |
| mixling | that's why, i reject DaemonFC, he is crossing the line to insults and defamation | Sep 19 15:43 |
| techrights-news | Conan package manager pilot to end in December ⚓ https://www.qt.io/blog/conan-package-manager-pilot-to-end-in-december ䷉ Source: Qt (proprietary) :/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.qt.io/blog/conan-package-manager-pilot-to-end-in-december | Sep 19 15:43 |
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| DaemonFC | I'm just pointing out that mjg59_ is a degenerate, not the morals police. | Sep 19 15:43 |
| schestowitz[TR] | there is a term for it | Sep 19 15:44 |
| schestowitz[TR] | it's something about guilt | Sep 19 15:44 |
| schestowitz[TR] | like, you work on really awful projects | Sep 19 15:44 |
| DaemonFC | For a sleazy lech who pals around with sex criminals at Microsoft? | Sep 19 15:44 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and then you claim to do charity | Sep 19 15:45 |
| schestowitz[TR] | or "social justice" something | Sep 19 15:45 |
| schestowitz[TR] | to distract from or counter-balance the evil | Sep 19 15:45 |
| DaemonFC | I do have some vices, oh yes, but committing adultery is not one of them, much less bragging about doing it. | Sep 19 15:46 |
| techrights-news | The Different Token Types and Formats Explained - The New Stack ⚓ https://thenewstack.io/the-different-token-types-and-formats-explained/ ䷉ Source: The New Stack | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//thenewstack.io/the-different-token-types-and-formats-explained/ | Sep 19 15:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thenewstack.io | The Different Token Types and Formats Explained - The New Stack | Sep 19 15:46 | |
| DaemonFC | Interestingly, the bible never mentions "trans" people at all, much less what to do with them, much less that there even is such a thing. | Sep 19 15:47 |
| techrights-news | A journey in the RTC subsystem - Bootlin's blog ⚓ https://bootlin.com/blog/a-journey-in-the-rtc-subsystem/ ䷉ Source: | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//bootlin.com/blog/a-journey-in-the-rtc-subsystem/ | Sep 19 15:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A journey in the RTC subsystem - Bootlin's blog | Sep 19 15:47 | |
| DaemonFC | Amusingly, the closest it gets is saying that men with missing genitals can't enter the temple. | Sep 19 15:47 |
| schestowitz[TR] | the bible is no morality book anyway | Sep 19 15:48 |
| schestowitz[TR] | nor a science book | Sep 19 15:48 |
| DaemonFC | The New Testament doesn't list out homosexuality as any sort of crime or offense. | Sep 19 15:49 |
| techrights-news | BCDEJTO Wordo: AIRED gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2022-09-19.gmi | Sep 19 15:49 |
| DaemonFC | I always thought it was interesting that Christians go to "The book we don't live by. It's just there for prologue." to get at that. | Sep 19 15:50 |
| schestowitz[TR] | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Catholic_Church_and_homosexuality?wprov=srpw1_0 | Sep 19 15:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | History of the Catholic Church and homosexuality - Wikipedia | Sep 19 15:50 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | In October 2016, Francis said that "When a person (who is gay) arrives before Jesus, Jesus certainly will not say, 'Go away because you are homosexual'" | Sep 19 15:50 |
| schestowitz[TR] | the church changes its stance | Sep 19 15:50 |
| schestowitz[TR] | to keep up with the times | Sep 19 15:50 |
| schestowitz[TR] | it also removed some people for the whole "kid fucking" AND covering it up affairs.. | Sep 19 15:51 |
| schestowitz[TR] | iirc, jesus is said to have slept with another m,an, but just slept in same bed | Sep 19 15:51 |
| schestowitz[TR] | unless that man was ioerror, then fine | Sep 19 15:52 |
| schestowitz[TR] | tbh, I never slept in a bed with another guy, except maybe dad | Sep 19 15:52 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and I was a kid | Sep 19 15:52 |
| schestowitz[TR] | kids have bad dream sometimes | Sep 19 15:52 |
| schestowitz[TR] | at the very least a shared room can be "double room", i.e. two beds | Sep 19 15:53 |
| schestowitz[TR] | they are almost always the same price as one large bed | Sep 19 15:53 |
| schestowitz[TR] | "twin" | Sep 19 15:53 |
| DaemonFC | The Catholic Church helped us get Mandy's immigration case on file before Donald Trump's new regulations hit. | Sep 19 15:54 |
| DaemonFC | Someone asked why I went to the Catholics. I said I'd shake hands with the devil if I thought it would help things along. | Sep 19 15:54 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz[TR]: They don't fit in with the times, so they age and then the churches empty out. | Sep 19 15:56 |
| DaemonFC | No money, file bankruptcy against Kathy's pension. | Sep 19 15:56 |
| techrights-news | Rockstar Games [Cracked] | GTA 6 Videos Leaked - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=76bety1AOHg | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/76bety1AOHg | Sep 19 15:56 |
| DaemonFC | Thou Shalt Not Lie! | Sep 19 15:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Rockstar Games Hacked | GTA 6 Videos Leaked - Invidious | Sep 19 15:56 | |
| DaemonFC | Hey Kathy, work for us. The pay isn't the best but you'll get a terrific pension! | Sep 19 15:57 |
| DaemonFC | Thous Shalt Not Steal! | Sep 19 15:57 |
| DaemonFC | *files bankruptcy and screws Kathy* | Sep 19 15:57 |
| mixling | DaemonFC: how had this been a case if you are the partner of mandy (whoever it is) | Sep 19 15:57 |
| mixling | had he been, Many, denied working in USA? | Sep 19 15:58 |
| techrights-news | "Many of the Puppy old-timers will remember Vincent. My daughter and partner had two little dogs, Vincent and April. Vincent became the mascot for some Puppy-derivatives, and also the avatar for some members on the old Puppy Forum." https://forum.puppylinux.com/viewtopic.php?t=6835 | Sep 19 15:58 |
| mixling | Mandy | Sep 19 15:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forum.puppylinux.com | Vincent has died, age 16 - Puppy Linux Discussion Forum | Sep 19 15:58 | |
| DaemonFC | You can't work on a student visa, except maybe on campus with DHS permission. | Sep 19 15:58 |
| techrights-news | "Vincent was a logo and avatar in Puppy Linux. Died at age 16½, over 110 in human years!" https://bkhome.org/news/202209/vincent-has-died-age-16.html | Sep 19 15:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bkhome.org | Vincent has died age 16 | Sep 19 15:59 | |
| mixling | DaemonFC: and this student visa restriction was introduced by Trump? | Sep 19 15:59 |
| DaemonFC | So when you adjust status, you still can't work until they get around to issuing you an Employment Authorization Document, which is a plastic card that says you're able to legally work. | Sep 19 15:59 |
| DaemonFC | mixlingDaemonFC: and this student visa restriction was introduced by Trump? | Sep 19 15:59 |
| DaemonFC | No, not that particular one. | Sep 19 15:59 |
| mixling | DaemonFC: does Mandy study still? | Sep 19 16:00 |
| DaemonFC | Trump had them come up with a form called I-944 (iirc). It's like filing bankruptcy, except totally different. It's as complicated as a bankruptcy filing, but you have to use it to PROVE you will NEVER use a welfare program if they let you in, which was designed to be nearly impossible. | Sep 19 16:00 |
| DaemonFC | So we had to beat that filing deadline or else file I-944, in which case they could presume we'd eventually use welfare even though we didn't, and haven't. | Sep 19 16:01 |
| DaemonFC | Nice, huh? | Sep 19 16:01 |
| DaemonFC | I-944 was ended by the Biden Administration. | Sep 19 16:01 |
| DaemonFC | But it would have been too late to help us. | Sep 19 16:01 |
| mixling | probably because, it is impossible in principle, to avoid social security with any guarantee | Sep 19 16:01 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, so "prove you'll never use it" is an impossibly high bar. | Sep 19 16:02 |
| DaemonFC | Under the old one, it was "they have to prove you're more likely than not to use it based on the totality of the circumstances". | Sep 19 16:02 |
| mixling | it's funny how, the same people, loot and plunder my income though, to prove anything | Sep 19 16:02 |
| DaemonFC | And it covered fewer programs. | Sep 19 16:02 |
| mixling | not it had anything to do with me personally | Sep 19 16:02 |
| DaemonFC | mjg59_ didn't have to worry about I-944 because like the GirlsDoPorn rapist, he just flashed money and they let him through. | Sep 19 16:03 |
| DaemonFC | The US is as corrupt as any other country where some people can just buy citizenship while they create every problem they can think of for most anyone else. | Sep 19 16:03 |
| DaemonFC | The US doesn't technically "sell" citizenship as such. There are immigration processing fees, but those are basically there to make USCIS self-sufficient, like the Post Office. | Sep 19 16:04 |
| DaemonFC | When I say people like mjg59_ and the GirldDoPorn Rapist buy their citizenship, what I mean is the government sees that they'll get tax money and then it doesn't give them a hard time like it does for people who truly need asylum here because if they go home, they'll be murdered. | Sep 19 16:05 |
| DaemonFC | So he's an "American of convenience" and they don't hassle him because his checks to the IRS clear. | Sep 19 16:06 |
| DaemonFC | mjg59_ is a symptom of the higher education problem the Democrats have allowed to brew. | Sep 19 16:06 |
| DaemonFC | Instead of educating our own citizens, they just dole out Immigration visas so tech and other companies can import workers. | Sep 19 16:07 |
| DaemonFC | He's a symbol of the Democratic Party's treachery against real Americans. | Sep 19 16:07 |
| DaemonFC | The Democrats cause a lot of poverty and suicides while they sneer at people who could have been more had their own country invested anything into them. | Sep 19 16:08 |
| DaemonFC | But the poverty serves them too. | Sep 19 16:08 |
| DaemonFC | By keeping people down and on welfare programs, they keep them dependent on government to pay their bills so that they can't vote for anyone else. | Sep 19 16:08 |
| mixling | it's irelevant whom to vote for | Sep 19 16:09 |
| DaemonFC | Like schestowitz[TR] gets at, they're not necessarily better than Republicans, just different. | Sep 19 16:09 |
| DaemonFC | Joe Biden solved one problem I was having. That USCIS was being much more difficult than the law required them to be. | Sep 19 16:10 |
| DaemonFC | He created many others. Like 25% annual inflation. | Sep 19 16:10 |
| DaemonFC | If his party loses at least the US House of Representatives, there won't be a lot of inflation after that because these trillion dollar weekly spending plans will stop. | Sep 19 16:11 |
| DaemonFC | They've gotten to the point where the baseline budget is over $7 trillion, but then they pass a bunch of others that dump weapons into Ukraine to harass Russia with, that aren't in the budget. | Sep 19 16:12 |
| DaemonFC | Or a trillion dollars to give to losers who studied bullshit at "college". | Sep 19 16:12 |
| DaemonFC | Or bailouts for Tesla. | Sep 19 16:13 |
| mixling | add to this budget, the influx of foreign cash, funneld through by NATO contributions, German chancellor Schols said "We owe our ally" | Sep 19 16:14 |
| mixling | same with Tesla, and their "carbon certificates", it's alot of german cash too dumped into this | Sep 19 16:14 |
| mixling | not accounted for with Biddlers budget | Sep 19 16:15 |
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| mixling | let me say, NATO/USA isn't my ally | Sep 19 16:15 |
| MinceR | we know, vladolf is your ally | Sep 19 16:15 |
| mixling | and i am not an employer of RAND corp Pentagon either, for mjg59_ to inject his UEFI spyware into my systems | Sep 19 16:15 |
| MinceR | an "ally" who will happily sacrifice you if it's convenient to him. | Sep 19 16:15 |
| mixling | *employee | Sep 19 16:16 |
| mixling | MinceR: i don't consider Vlad an ally either | Sep 19 16:16 |
| mixling | and i don't owe him nor Ukraine anything either | Sep 19 16:16 |
| mixling | Zelensky isn't my friend, add to this | Sep 19 16:16 |
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| mixling | as I tried to explain, the NVA weapons stockpiles vanished, and i didn't join military anymore with access to it | Sep 19 16:17 |
| mixling | hence, i could blather all day long, it's not relevant, it's not a language understood | Sep 19 16:18 |
| mixling | however, what they would understand, if any IBM Wintel office in east-germany was set on fire | Sep 19 16:18 |
| geert | some people these days dont *want* to get much about *reality* if they dont consider it according 'their agenda' | Sep 19 16:19 |
| mixling | and the corrupt media-apparatus, all foreign-agents thrown out of government | Sep 19 16:19 |
| geert | like e.g. eu kinda more 'communist' than russia atm | Sep 19 16:19 |
| geert | probably some goons wana barf me into 'putin idoliser' stating such obvious facts | Sep 19 16:19 |
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| MinceR | geert: how do you define 'communist'? | Sep 19 16:22 |
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| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Kernel: Torvalds, RTC subsystem, and more ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/19/Kernel_Torvalds_RTC_subsystem_and_more.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/19/Kernel_Torvalds_RTC_subsystem_and_more.gmi ∎ | Sep 19 16:23 |
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| geert | MinceR putting stuff like 'general deficiencies' in state of law change proposals | Sep 19 16:25 |
| geert | EU is literally trying to get such DDR like stuff installed at the very moment | Sep 19 16:25 |
| geert | well maybe not anymore at the verymoment, i didnt exactly got to check today, nevertheless.. | Sep 19 16:26 |
| MinceR | uh huh | Sep 19 16:26 |
| geert | yea i got kind of shocked getting to know about it | Sep 19 16:27 |
| geert | and guess what, dutch prime minister mark rutte got frontrunning that @#$ misery | Sep 19 16:27 |
| geert | and i personally got to find out BEFORE trying to push that through in EU scale, he got some @#$@$# done in NL which is plain illegal pretty much coupe d'etat stuff | Sep 19 16:28 |
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| highest_cubist_thrills | germany was friends with the usa, britain and russia in wwii | Sep 19 16:38 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | they invaded russia, and usa and britain invaded them | Sep 19 16:39 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | they also invaded britain | Sep 19 16:39 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | friendship is military | Sep 19 16:39 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | dear fraulein celestia... | Sep 19 16:40 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | today we made "friends" with france | Sep 19 16:41 |
| DaemonFC | Saying JavaScript is bad for your security makes you a transphobe according to mjg59_. | Sep 19 16:48 |
| DaemonFC | Am I worried that SeaMonkey could potentially have security problems? Not terribly. Most JavaScript is blocked. What else would be hammering on a security vulnerability that got overlooked in backports from Gecko? | Sep 19 16:48 |
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| mixling | this will take some time, to unlearn Vim, and learning vis | Sep 19 17:25 |
| mixling | i'll like vis i think, it's easy to compile/link statically too | Sep 19 17:27 |
| mixling | syntax highlighting is missing still, vis should have this too | Sep 19 17:28 |
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| mixling | seems this is what lua LPeg are fore | Sep 19 17:31 |
| mixling | anyway, decision is made: Vim removed. | Sep 19 17:33 |
| XRevan86 | > like e.g. eu kinda more 'communist' than russia atm | Sep 19 17:40 |
| XRevan86 | In a good way or a bad way? (: | Sep 19 17:40 |
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| mixling | allright, next i'll test vis-editor compilation with tcc-toolchain | Sep 19 17:52 |
| mixling | shouldn't be too problematic | Sep 19 17:52 |
| mixling | and all this, can fully be detangled from GNU-buildsystem... i see | Sep 19 17:54 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: in an unintelligible way | Sep 19 17:54 |
| mixling | because, that's another huge challange, removal of both GNU-toolchain AND their buildsystem | Sep 19 17:54 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: That's the best way. GNU is also more "Communist" than bananas. | Sep 19 17:55 |
| MinceR | :> | Sep 19 17:55 |
| MinceR | what's the difference the crodocile? | Sep 19 17:55 |
| MinceR | it's longer than green. | Sep 19 17:55 |
| MinceR | s/doc/cod/ | Sep 19 17:55 |
| mixling | vis is the default editor of Oasis Linux, interesting... however, i am even more radical than the Oasis Linux project | Sep 19 17:55 |
| MinceR | tubular! | Sep 19 17:56 |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): MakuluLinux: A Lot of Fun for Distro Hoppers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/19/MakuluLinux_A_Lot_of_Fun_for_Distro_Hoppers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/19/MakuluLinux_A_Lot_of_Fun_for_Distro_Hoppers.gmi ∎ | Sep 19 17:56 |
| mixling | their tree will be extremely helpful, yet i'll settle with a profile tracked with gentoo tooling first, to avoid some particular trouble makers which are still hiding inside the Oasis | Sep 19 17:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — MakuluLinux: A Lot of Fun for Distro Hoppers | Sep 19 17:56 | |
| mixling | and then, fork the Oasis tree | Sep 19 17:56 |
| mixling | i mean, imagine this, if an entire *nix workstation distro, including all development tooling, compiles in a few minutes, on some tinies ARM SBC or similar | Sep 19 17:57 |
| MinceR | and then takes a decade to do anything else | Sep 19 17:57 |
| mixling | is it my fault i have to remove 40years of clusterfuck made in USA? | Sep 19 17:58 |
| MinceR | it is your fault you get rid of all optimizations | Sep 19 17:58 |
| mixling | what argument are you provoking here? | Sep 19 17:59 |
| MinceR | you've said multiple times that you don't care about how the code generated by the compiler performs, only that it should compile as quickly as possible | Sep 19 17:59 |
| MinceR | on the long term, this will waste a lot of time | Sep 19 18:00 |
| mixling | never said this | Sep 19 18:00 |
| MinceR | uh huh | Sep 19 18:00 |
| MinceR | you slammed gcc for taking more time to produce better code | Sep 19 18:00 |
| mixling | i said tcc-toolchain operates closer to the optimum with the trade-off of compile-time and run-time performance | Sep 19 18:00 |
| MinceR | yeah, because that "optimum" is to waste run time to save compilation time | Sep 19 18:00 |
| mixling | gcc doesn't produce "better" code, it produces faster binaries with EXTREME costs involved elsewhere | Sep 19 18:01 |
| MinceR | apparently | Sep 19 18:01 |
| XRevan86 | mixling: "never said this" <- Seriously? | Sep 19 18:01 |
| XRevan86 | Ye discussed this *with me*! Not even with MinceR! | Sep 19 18:01 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Kudos for paying attention. | Sep 19 18:01 |
| MinceR | :> | Sep 19 18:01 |
| mixling | you don't know what you're talking about | Sep 19 18:03 |
| mixling | i got an idea, if i fork Oasis, i'll call my distro Paradise Linux | Sep 19 18:04 |
| mixling | latest greatest kernel version aimed at being v2.4 | Sep 19 18:05 |
| XRevan86 | mixling: "BaphometOS" sounds more like ye. | Sep 19 18:05 |
| MinceR | i think it's "Paradise" because nobody is allowed in | Sep 19 18:06 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Or because it's too perfect to exist? | Sep 19 18:06 |
| mixling | currently, i am forced to roll along with two profiles: | Sep 19 18:06 |
| mixling | 1) gcc47 c-only, let's say this is BaphometOS, which is doomed for all eternity | Sep 19 18:06 |
| mixling | 2) tcc-toolchain, which is Paradise | Sep 19 18:07 |
| MinceR | Dimension of the Doomed | Sep 19 18:07 |
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| XRevan86 | https://bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-09-19/europe-gas-drops-as-nations-ramp-up-measures-to-ease-crisis | Sep 19 18:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bloomberg - Are you a robot? | Sep 19 18:11 | |
| techrights-news | UK monarchs wanted to feel powerful again, shut down the stores for half a day for no good reasons (even places that vend foods). Way to terrorise the peasants... | Sep 19 18:11 |
| geert | well trying to install 'general deficiencies' in serious state of law proposals seems pretty clear to me | Sep 19 18:13 |
| geert | some people apparently want in on the DDR action by acting as if they dont understand | Sep 19 18:13 |
| geert | if comes to facts, science etc. its not just very clear, even very easily proven and WAY beyond 'collectively admitted and understood' | Sep 19 18:13 |
| XRevan86 | https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/09/19/kommersant-tired-of-news-and-lacking-other-options-russians-are-spending-more-time-watching-youtube "Tired of news and lacking other options, Russians are spending more time on YouTube" | Sep 19 18:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLE | Sep 19 18:14 | |
| XRevan86 | https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/09/19/dnr-and-lnr-public-chambers-call-for-referendums-on-russian-annexation "‘DPR’ and ‘LPR’ public chambers call for referendums on Russian annexation" | Sep 19 18:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLE | Sep 19 18:14 | |
| XRevan86 | https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/09/19/south-ukraine-nuclear-plant-shelled-by-russia-enerhoatom-news "South Ukraine Nuclear Plant shelled by Russia - Energoatom" | Sep 19 18:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-novayagazeta.eu | Новая газета. Европа | Sep 19 18:15 | |
| XRevan86 | https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/09/19/osce-employee-sentenced-to-13-years-of-imprisonment-over-high-treason-charges-in-lpr-news "OSCE employee sentenced to 13 years of imprisonment over high treason charges in ‘LPR’" | Sep 19 18:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-novayagazeta.eu | Новая газета. Европа | Sep 19 18:15 | |
| XRevan86 | https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/09/19/moscow-legislator-alexey-gorinovs-7-years-long-sentence-over-army-discrediting-charges-reduced-by-one-month-news "Moscow legislator Alexei Gorinov’s 7-year-long sentence over ‘army discrediting’ charges reduced by one month" | Sep 19 18:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-novayagazeta.eu | Новая газета. Европа | Sep 19 18:16 | |
| highest_cubist_thrills | GNU is also more "Communist" than bananas. <- as communist as gnunited fruit | Sep 19 18:16 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | stallman is the chiquita gnuisance | Sep 19 18:17 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | it's longer than green. <- and stronger than dirt | Sep 19 18:17 |
| techrights-news | Promo sprint in Saumur ⚓ https://carlschwan.eu/2022/09/19/promo-sprint-in-saumur/ ䷉ Source: Carl Schwan | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//carlschwan.eu/2022/09/19/promo-sprint-in-saumur/ | Sep 19 18:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-carlschwan.eu | Promo sprint in Saumur | Sep 19 18:18 | |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): OpenMandriva on Ampere Altra ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/19/OpenMandriva_on_Ampere_Altra.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/19/OpenMandriva_on_Ampere_Altra.gmi ∎ | Sep 19 18:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — OpenMandriva on Ampere Altra | Sep 19 18:18 | |
| highest_cubist_thrills | <MinceR> yeah, because that "optimum" is to waste run time to save compilation time <- whats funny though is hes describing an interpreter but keeps calling it a compiler | Sep 19 18:18 |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Best 12 Linux ASCII Games That are Modern Looking For 2022 ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/19/Best_12_Linux_ASCII_Games_That_are_Modern_Looking_For_2022.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/19/Best_12_Linux_ASCII_Games_That_are_Modern_Looking_For_2022.gmi ∎ | Sep 19 18:18 |
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| geert | the facts are very clear XRevan86, without corruption disguised as if legit NATO trying to get rid of ru mil basis @ sebastopol, trying to basically run anti ru agenda over the back of ua, crimea wouldnt even been annexed by this day | Sep 19 18:18 |
| starstreak | haha kiwifarms got hacked and check out the drama: https://twitter.com/keffals/status/1571576231073644544 | Sep 19 18:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@keffals: After the site was compromised and user data leaked due to bad coding by Joshua Moon, Kiwi Farms users are turning… https://t.co/N48hrkhjA8 | Sep 19 18:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@keffals: After the site was compromised and user data leaked due to bad coding by Joshua Moon, Kiwi Farms users are turning… https://t.co/N48hrkhjA8 | Sep 19 18:19 | |
| geert | and lets try not talk shit, if one try the same to the usa, reaction would have been more agressively | Sep 19 18:19 |
| geert | not probably, but very sure | Sep 19 18:19 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | (in fact tcc has gone as far as promoting itself as useful as a "scripting" language) | Sep 19 18:19 |
| geert | so to just watch annexation and say thats proof of ru agression, is just wanting in on illegal criminal shit | Sep 19 18:19 |
| geert | and imnot even saying it pro russia | Sep 19 18:19 |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴: Google Android Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/19/Android_Leftovers.2.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/19/Android_Leftovers.2.gmi ∎ | Sep 19 18:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Android Leftovers | Sep 19 18:19 | |
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| MinceR | word salad | Sep 19 18:20 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — today's howtos | Sep 19 18:20 | |
| highest_cubist_thrills | <MinceR> word salad <- what herr doktor said? | Sep 19 18:20 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | more like turd salad | Sep 19 18:20 |
| XRevan86 | geert: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kharkiv_Pact | Sep 19 18:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Kharkiv Pact - Wikipedia | Sep 19 18:20 | |
| highest_cubist_thrills | haha kiwifarms got hacked <- hey yo, get out the way, yo-- biggie smalls just got shot! | Sep 19 18:21 |
| geert | besides, criminal corrupt warmongerer crap disguised as if legit NATO wanted rid of RU basis @ sebastpol where from serious mil perspective, only relatively small distance to the east on the other side of kerch strait (maybe not spelled correctly) RU got soil on black sea, meaning strategically with todays tech its practically bullying what those corrupt goons tried regarding that basis | Sep 19 18:21 |
| MinceR | highest_cubist_thrills: no, unless he has taken to using 2 clients at the same time | Sep 19 18:21 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | wouldnt put it past him | Sep 19 18:22 |
| geert | yea yea supposedly smart asses act as if they dont understand by calling things word salad from which meaning is pretty easily derived | Sep 19 18:22 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | he might need to setup another motorola cluster for that though | Sep 19 18:22 |
| XRevan86 | geert: I don't understand what ye are saying. | Sep 19 18:22 |
| geert | i bet if i get to ask non native english students from country like .fr or .es age 14 to explain what it means >80% could | Sep 19 18:22 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | (which i still think is a cool idea, but like any computing innovation its slightly less cool when nazis do it) | Sep 19 18:22 |
| geert | so i dont care much about word salad pretenses | Sep 19 18:22 |
| *XRevan86 shrugs. | Sep 19 18:22 | |
| highest_cubist_thrills | edwin black says ibm stole punched cards from the census bureau | Sep 19 18:22 |
| MinceR | you evidently also don't care about grammar or spelling | Sep 19 18:23 |
| MinceR | or being understood | Sep 19 18:23 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | i guess the census bureau stole them from jaquard | Sep 19 18:23 |
| geert | yea so what? understanding isnt so difficult as you try hide behind and im not paid for spelling /grammar | Sep 19 18:23 |
| geert | facts prevail fuck the bullshit | Sep 19 18:23 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | my grammar uses a walking frame | Sep 19 18:23 |
| MinceR | what are you paid for? | Sep 19 18:23 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | im largely sympathetic to blacks claims, but im still pedantic after all | Sep 19 18:23 |
| geert | Truth. actually people ask me things to get serious answers | Sep 19 18:24 |
| geert | and even on a level that most people fail comprehend | Sep 19 18:24 |
| MinceR | who's paying you? | Sep 19 18:24 |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): KDE: KDE Promo, Krita Funding, and More ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/19/KDE_KDE_Promo_Krita_Funding_and_More.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/19/KDE_KDE_Promo_Krita_Funding_and_More.gmi ∎ | Sep 19 18:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — KDE: KDE Promo, Krita Funding, and More | Sep 19 18:24 | |
| highest_cubist_thrills | WHO DOES NUMBER 2 WORK FOR | Sep 19 18:24 |
| MinceR | highest_cubist_thrills: number 1 | Sep 19 18:24 |
| MinceR | that's easy | Sep 19 18:25 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | hehe | Sep 19 18:25 |
| geert | first you might try admit its not just word salad, it got meaning to it, which you DO understand | Sep 19 18:25 |
| geert | then maybe i get to explain you | Sep 19 18:25 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | dr attack surface | Sep 19 18:25 |
| geert | im not your little pony, so i dont have to give you some look into my wallet | Sep 19 18:25 |
| MinceR | geert: seems to me you're the only one here who understands any of your longer messages | Sep 19 18:25 |
| geert | by the way, youd be seriously shocked im practically sure but that i keep as teaser so to speak | Sep 19 18:25 |
| geert | no it dont seem that to you, youre outright lying coz i know you got to derive the meaning from that what you called 'word salad' | Sep 19 18:26 |
| geert | youre simply outright lying | Sep 19 18:26 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | "this mitigation prevents artbirary code running from a 'buffer overflow' from accessing gadgets in ram. thats why i call this mitigation 'bananarama'" | Sep 19 18:26 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | "PFFFT" | Sep 19 18:26 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | "what?" | Sep 19 18:26 |
| geert | maybe some goon in here think they can believe that | Sep 19 18:26 |
| XRevan86 | https://nitter.it/JuliaDavisNews/status/1571712271063072773 | Sep 19 18:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews): "Meanwhile in Russia, more of the usual: nuclear threats against Germany and Britain, cautioning NATO against going into Ukraine. This directly clashes with their lies, constantly spewed by state TV, that Russia is already at war with NATO & "uniformed NATO troops" are in Ukraine."|nitter.it | Sep 19 18:26 | |
| techrights-news | [pull] amdgpu, amdkfd, radeon drm-next-6.1 - Alex Deucher ⚓ https://lore.kernel.org/dri-devel/20220916153638.6501-1-alexander.deucher@amd.com/ ䷉ Source: amd | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lore.kernel.org/dri-devel/20220916153638.6501-1-alexander.deucher@amd.com/ | Sep 19 18:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lore.kernel.org | [pull] amdgpu, amdkfd, radeon drm-next-6.1 - Alex Deucher | Sep 19 18:27 | |
| MinceR | looks like putler can't keep his lies straight | Sep 19 18:27 |
| geert | lol Xrevan86 if you did some serious research, you knew about supposedly legit NATO missile systems aimed at RU with warhead systems replacable within seconds to nuclear warheads | Sep 19 18:27 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | thats one of the ways people detect liars | Sep 19 18:27 |
| MinceR | how did such a piss-poor liar get to run an empire? | Sep 19 18:27 |
| geert | even before the crap over the back of ua started | Sep 19 18:27 |
| techrights-news | "In a previous blog post I looked into converting a custom markup text format into "proper" PDF and epub documents. The format at the time was very simple and could not do even simple things like italic text. At the time it was ok, but as time went on it seemed a bit unsatisfactory." https://nibblestew.blogspot.com/2022/09/diving-deeper-into-custom-pdf-and-epub.html | Sep 19 18:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nibblestew.blogspot.com | Nibble Stew: Diving deeper into custom PDF and epub generation | Sep 19 18:27 | |
| highest_cubist_thrills | its easier at least, to keep the truth straight | Sep 19 18:27 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | sometimes its complicated, but bullshit tends to be moreso (systemd, debian ctte, gnome) | Sep 19 18:28 |
| geert | so xrevan86 meaning you simply pro warmongerer | Sep 19 18:28 |
| XRevan86 | https://nitter.it/JuliaDavisNews/status/1571861129390948356 | Sep 19 18:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews): "Top propagandist on Russian state TV urges for more strict measures to prevent additional military retreats: on-the-spot trials "for traitors, deserters and anyone who gets scared." He sounds quite peeved about the situation with drones. Head of RT chimes in to praise the gov't."|nitter.it | Sep 19 18:28 | |
| XRevan86 | https://nitter.it/JuliaDavisNews/status/1571878236212035586 | Sep 19 18:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews): "While the world is witnessing the immense scale of Russia's war crimes in Ukraine and the humanitarian catastrophe caused by Putin's invasion, top state TV propagandist has the audacity to claim that Russia is conducting "a humanitarian operation" in Ukraine."|nitter.it | Sep 19 18:28 | |
| MinceR | also, it's surprising how many ruscists we get | Sep 19 18:28 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | i mean theyre everywhere | Sep 19 18:28 |
| techrights-news | Authorities in Iran must keep the [I]nternet accessible in Saqqez ⚓ https://www.accessnow.org/iran-keep-internet-accessible/ ䷉ Source: AccessNow | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.accessnow.org/iran-keep-internet-accessible/ | Sep 19 18:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.accessnow.org | Authorities in Iran must keep the internet accessible in Saqqez | Sep 19 18:28 | |
| MinceR | i didn't realize TR was such an important nexus of international politics advocacy | Sep 19 18:28 |
| geert | i dont care bullshit xrevan86, just like regarding the 'opcw hack', easily proven bullshit which people tried call legit intel/security defense | Sep 19 18:28 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | and theyre automatically banned from libera (not an endorsement) unless theyve taken over | Sep 19 18:28 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | if libera.chat turns out to be kremlin based i WILL be surprised, but it will still be funny | Sep 19 18:29 |
| geert | you dont need try convince me, you cannot. i already got some facts this straight, and this for sure, that none of your bullshit get in between | Sep 19 18:29 |
| MinceR | one would think vladolf can't afford to pay that many web brigadiers anymore, with their economy in ruins and rubbles not being worth anything anymore | Sep 19 18:29 |
| geert | you actually need serious facts to get in between, which you dont have regarding that matter proving me wrong | Sep 19 18:29 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | i didn't realize TR was such an important nexus of international politics advocacy <- it isnt, this is where the "loser" ruscists go | Sep 19 18:29 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | implying (facetiously) that theres another type | Sep 19 18:29 |
| MinceR | "facts" are more impressive when people reading them can understand them | Sep 19 18:29 |
| MinceR | highest_cubist_thrills: :> | Sep 19 18:29 |
| geert | lol mincer, if you knew some about mil tactics, you knew that if thats true, ru would been pushed back long ago already | Sep 19 18:29 |
| geert | so well, you simply wana back warmongerer nasty crap i guess | Sep 19 18:30 |
| techrights-news | The "soul" is Microsoft proprietary software and Microsoft censorship http://smallcultfollowing.com/babysteps/blog/2022/09/19/what-i-meant-by-the-soul-of-rust/ | Sep 19 18:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-smallcultfollowing.com | Baby Steps | Sep 19 18:30 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: "also, it's surprising how many ruscists we get" <- Strangely enough, none of them are Russian. | Sep 19 18:30 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | do you think theyre all german? | Sep 19 18:30 |
| MinceR | must be putler's buddies lending their propaganda networks | Sep 19 18:30 |
| geert | well xrevan86 the facts are very simple, none of goons can ever change it, they want to yes, but they cannot | Sep 19 18:30 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | well, some are american | Sep 19 18:30 |
| MinceR | probably built along the orcish model | Sep 19 18:30 |
| MinceR | after all, ruscism was exported successfully | Sep 19 18:30 |
| MinceR | so why not the web brigades | Sep 19 18:31 |
| XRevan86 | geert: I can say the same thing. | Sep 19 18:31 |
| techrights-news | show | Sep 19 18:31 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | stallman has biolabs! | Sep 19 18:31 |
| techrights-news | "In this video, I am going to show an overview of Solus GNOME 4.3 and some of the applications pre-installed." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=uHY5WibOsns | Sep 19 18:31 |
| MinceR | maybe if XRevan86 said it, it would be intelligible | Sep 19 18:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Solus GNOME 4.3 overview | Designed for Everyone. - Invidious | Sep 19 18:31 | |
| highest_cubist_thrills | bkuhn missed that one | Sep 19 18:31 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | it was so obvious though | Sep 19 18:31 |
| XRevan86 | The economy of Russia is not quite in ruins, it's in peril though. | Sep 19 18:31 |
| techrights-news | "The Tiny Pilot Voyager 2 is a very impressive Raspberry Pi project" https://yewtu.be/watch?v=1eoeK2tTDGQ | Sep 19 18:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Tiny Pilot Voyager 2 - Remotely Manage your Server Quickly and Easily - Invidious | Sep 19 18:32 | |
| MinceR | yeah, i know, they can still sell some fossil fuels somewhere | Sep 19 18:32 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | sometimes if you milk it too hard, it just cant do anything after that | Sep 19 18:32 |
| MinceR | probably can't build pipelines to india or red china though | Sep 19 18:32 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | ... a friend says | Sep 19 18:32 |
| techrights-news | How GULAG is KILLING your AD BLOCKERS and tracker blockers with Manifest v3 - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=8KWCLhHrblE | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/8KWCLhHrblE | Sep 19 18:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | How Google is KILLING your AD BLOCKERS and tracker blockers with Manifest v3 - Invidious | Sep 19 18:33 | |
| highest_cubist_thrills | /me thinks china is more of a radish state | Sep 19 18:33 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | im not planning to use that much, i do think its amusing though | Sep 19 18:33 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: The natural gas export got wrecked because of Russia's actions to attempt to make the EU cower in fear and back off. | Sep 19 18:34 |
| XRevan86 | It's harming Russia greatly but it's able to make that sacrifice, at least in the short-term. | Sep 19 18:35 |
| techrights-news | "Imagination is Demonic." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snhV1owGCSM | Sep 19 18:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://invidious.flokinet.to/watch?v=snhV1owGCSM | Sep 19 18:35 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> invidious.flokinet.to | Yep. Imagination is Demonic. (Unironically) - Invidious | Sep 19 18:35 | |
| highest_cubist_thrills | save our economy, buy putlin a coffee | Sep 19 18:36 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: yeah, orcland is able to strangle itself, apparently | Sep 19 18:36 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | like michael hutchence | Sep 19 18:36 |
| MinceR | mainly because putler doesn't give a fuck about what happens to his subjects | Sep 19 18:36 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | what happened to the economy | Sep 19 18:36 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Yes, but also, the economy is not in ruins just yet. | Sep 19 18:37 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | "it sank" | Sep 19 18:37 |
| XRevan86 | Really don't know in what way NATO was supposed to destroy the Black Sea fleet. | Sep 19 18:37 |
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| MinceR | highest_cubist_thrills: i just call red china what usians called it before they became dependent on them and afraid of them :> | Sep 19 18:37 |
| techrights-news | Crystal Linux | An Upcoming Arch Distro - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=xpMeN7lB7bE | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/xpMeN7lB7bE | Sep 19 18:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Crystal Linux | An Upcoming Arch Distro - Invidious | Sep 19 18:37 | |
| highest_cubist_thrills | fair point | Sep 19 18:37 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | red wal mart | Sep 19 18:37 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | red apple (sort of obvious) | Sep 19 18:38 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | "made in red china" | Sep 19 18:38 |
| AdmFubar | https://krita.org/en/item/intel-becomes-first-krita-development-fund-corporate-gold-patron/ | Sep 19 18:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-krita.org | Intel Becomes First Krita Development Fund Corporate Gold Patron | Krita | Sep 19 18:38 | |
| XRevan86 | But I don't expect geеrt to provide evidence. | Sep 19 18:38 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | it could be radish, but i suppose its reddish | Sep 19 18:38 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | also reddit | Sep 19 18:38 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | happy shiny people following the coc | Sep 19 18:39 |
| XRevan86 | Or explain the thought in a way that can be understood. | Sep 19 18:39 |
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| MinceR | https://nitter.it/insultsrare/status/1571595272420982786 | Sep 19 18:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rare insults (@insultsrare): ""|nitter.it | Sep 19 18:39 | |
| highest_cubist_thrills | /me swore geert was herr doktor, but maybe hes a friend | Sep 19 18:39 |
| mixling | currently, the increased prices for gas, supposedly benefit russian income and military | Sep 19 18:39 |
| mixling | according to several discussions on german TV | Sep 19 18:39 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | "comenzie to techrights, they are stupid and we can teach them" | Sep 19 18:39 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | "ja wohl" | Sep 19 18:39 |
| MinceR | oh yes, orcland gets lots of money for gas they don't sell | Sep 19 18:40 |
| MinceR | that's how it works, you know | Sep 19 18:40 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | they should do like usa did in the 70s | Sep 19 18:40 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | LIMITED EDITION gas | Sep 19 18:40 |
| mixling | simple reason for this: the german-russian contracts set a minimum-delivery and cash-flow | Sep 19 18:40 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | collectors edition | Sep 19 18:40 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | while supplies last! | Sep 19 18:40 |
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| mixling | even when, for the sake of climate, imports of russian gas into germany/eu lowered, the cash-flow remains | Sep 19 18:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Videos: GNOME, Crystal Linux, and More | Sep 19 18:41 | |
| MinceR | i bet they get paid double for the gas they flare at portovaya | Sep 19 18:41 |
| mixling | in parallel, too Putin planned to deliver _more_ gas to China | Sep 19 18:41 |
| MinceR | yeah, planned | Sep 19 18:41 |
| mixling | meanwhile, german industry argues, costs in germany were too high, and they had to outsource even more manufacturing, to wherever, China | Sep 19 18:41 |
| MinceR | we'll see if the european companies that have the technology will be willing to help them build a pipeline to red china | Sep 19 18:41 |
| mixling | which is, good for climate, as usual, of cause | Sep 19 18:42 |
| MinceR | when they're actually banned from doing so | Sep 19 18:42 |
| MinceR | i won't hold my breath | Sep 19 18:42 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | the eu has changed its mind before | Sep 19 18:42 |
| MinceR | yeah | Sep 19 18:42 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | though this doesnt seem high on the list of possibilities | Sep 19 18:42 |
| mixling | MinceR: there are already two pipelines, i read, Siberian pipeline 1 and 2 | Sep 19 18:42 |
| MinceR | i'm sure they're currently unused | Sep 19 18:42 |
| XRevan86 | mixling: "currently, the increased prices for gas, supposedly benefit russian income and military" <- Nope. | Sep 19 18:43 |
| mixling | no, China rejected and raised veto against those sanctions | Sep 19 18:43 |
| techrights-news | Oh god, Python! ...I mean the programming language. gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1133 | Sep 19 18:43 |
| XRevan86 | Russia is not capable of selling natural gas under market prices right now. | Sep 19 18:44 |
| mixling | gas/energy market is a long-term prospect one, not some short-term shitcoin gambling business, as EU wishthinked it was at their "EU trading hub" | Sep 19 18:45 |
| techrights-news | "Technology does seem to me to be neutral -- it doesn't know right or wrong and doesn't care whether it's nailing a nail or hammering a fly. On the other hand, users aren't neutral, because they can choose what to do with the tools at hand." gemini://siiky.srht.site/philosophy/re-tech-and-conscience.gmi | Sep 19 18:45 |
| MinceR | orcland has no long term prospects | Sep 19 18:45 |
| MinceR | i doubt any human does | Sep 19 18:45 |
| MinceR | the best orcs can hope for is to survive as a colony of red china | Sep 19 18:46 |
| XRevan86 | The current crisis needs a short-term solution, so I don't get mixling's poibt. | Sep 19 18:46 |
| MinceR | it's just baseless hope | Sep 19 18:46 |
| XRevan86 | https://turmush.kg/ru/news:1805821 Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan signed a peace treaty. | Sep 19 18:48 |
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| mixling | germany: delivery of another 14 heavy tank howitzer to ukraine | Sep 19 19:11 |
| mixling | in parallel: 300meters off-target heavy artillery projectile smashed nearby a nuclear plant in ukraine | Sep 19 19:11 |
| mixling | can't grasp this, the policy of german arms deliveries is: "no weapons supplies into conflict regions" | Sep 19 19:12 |
| starstreak | ronnie staph ur tramatizing me | Sep 19 19:12 |
| XRevan86 | mixling: Aren't ye concerned about stopping the people who do things like https://pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/09/19/7368045/ ? | Sep 19 19:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pravda.com.ua | Invaders hit South Ukraine Nuclear Power Plant ? Energoatom | Ukrainska Pravda | Sep 19 19:14 | |
| mixling | XRevan86: i have another theory with the "retreat" of russian military, which is winter season | Sep 19 19:14 |
| mixling | i don't think, Putin is in a hurry, to issue more warnings over Ukraine | Sep 19 19:14 |
| mixling | since this escalated 2014 already, who knows how long the conflict prevails | Sep 19 19:15 |
| XRevan86 | I did say that Putin is banking a lot on the winter season. | Sep 19 19:15 |
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| XRevan86 | It is unlikely that we will see any significant combat during winter, but the effort will be spent on trying to undermine the effort to help Ukraine. | Sep 19 19:16 |
| XRevan86 | And depending on how that goes, the outcome will be determined. | Sep 19 19:16 |
| mixling | don't forget Poland (who typically follow along with similar sentiments to the ones from Ukraine) | Sep 19 19:17 |
| mixling | just recently, Poland, again, demanded WW2 reparations | Sep 19 19:17 |
| XRevan86 | "who typically follow along with similar sentiments to the ones from Ukraine" <- Don't really see that. | Sep 19 19:17 |
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| mixling | out of curiosity, what for? given many regions of modern Poland are/were German they, Poland, were generously compensated with. | Sep 19 19:18 |
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| XRevan86 | Germany has already stated that the debt's been paid. | Sep 19 19:18 |
| mixling | XRevan86: Poland equally became hysterical over Nordstream pipelines, similar to Ukraine, and transit fees | Sep 19 19:18 |
| mixling | remembering this, given some of my relatives were deported from their homelands (nowadays Czech republic and Poland), that's a fourth expropriation i almost forgot | Sep 19 19:19 |
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| mixling | if deportations were considered expropriations | Sep 19 19:20 |
| mixling | let's not split hairs over this | Sep 19 19:20 |
| XRevan86 | mixling: Nord Stream-2 didn't have many allies. Poland and Ukraine obviously weren't, but so weren't many other countries. | Sep 19 19:21 |
| starstreak | ronnie stahp | Sep 19 19:21 |
| mixling | i don't remember either, my grandfathers who lost their mothers during WW2 when they were young (12-14 years old), they never asked for reparations from anyone | Sep 19 19:22 |
| XRevan86 | I don't really know why Russia cares about Nord Stream-2 right now. I suspect a display of power, would look good on TV. | Sep 19 19:22 |
| techrights-news | Andrew should have been arrested along with Bill Gates. Guess who got arrested. https://yewtu.be/watch?v=niKzVnaoK5s | Sep 19 19:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | 'Andrew, you're a sick man': police drag heckler from crowd during Queen's procession - Invidious | Sep 19 19:24 | |
| mixling | the other irony is probably this, it is supposedly me who had to pay reparations or what? with what? i was expropriated twice already, and another excess inflation hike | Sep 19 19:24 |
| XRevan86 | Nord Stream-2 is going to Germany just like Nord Stream, but Nord Stream is shut down on a whim, so there's no practical reason to want Nord Stream-2 in operation. | Sep 19 19:25 |
| mixling | Ukraine demands reparations from Russia, Poland demands reparations from Germany... | Sep 19 19:26 |
| XRevan86 | Nord Stream-2 was manufactured to dodge transit through Ukraine (Druzhba), but right now Druzhba is the only pipeline Russia is actually keeping in operation because it *doesn't* go to Germany. | Sep 19 19:26 |
| techrights-news | Crime committed? But shagging underage girls? We the taxpayers pay for it. https://yewtu.be/watch?v=9YSie19OACI see https://www.irishexaminer.com/world/arid-40809225.html | Sep 19 19:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Man Calls Prince Andrew 'Sick Old Man' During Royal Procession - Invidious | Sep 19 19:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.irishexaminer.com | 'Are the British public ultimately paying for Andrew to avoid appearing in court?' | Sep 19 19:26 | |
| mixling | and the transit pipelines in ukraine and poland are supposedly disconnected too | Sep 19 19:26 |
| mixling | to settle this conflict, Nordstream operation is crucial, and then discuss reparations separately, or terminate all talks | Sep 19 19:27 |
| XRevan86 | "because it *doesn't* go to Germany" <- That is, right now it doesn't. | Sep 19 19:27 |
| mixling | to my understanding, Putin wasn't willing to negotiate anymore | Sep 19 19:27 |
| XRevan86 | mixling: Negotiations are a weird beast right now, there's no common ground that is even possible between the two sides. | Sep 19 19:29 |
| XRevan86 | Ukraine wants Putin to scram, Putin wants to conquer as much as possible. | Sep 19 19:29 |
| mixling | in the end, i had not received salary for almost two decades of work | Sep 19 19:29 |
| mixling | a salary by typical german standards | Sep 19 19:29 |
| mixling | i spare you the details, what the "explanations" for this were supposed to be | Sep 19 19:30 |
| mixling | "east german" "unproductive" dumb fuck, that's the typical discussion here | Sep 19 19:30 |
| mixling | or the feminist equal pay one, immigrants and whatnot | Sep 19 19:30 |
| XRevan86 | Zelensky did suddenly say that the Crimea dispute can be resolved diplomatically, I read that as a bone that's thrown to Putin. | Sep 19 19:30 |
| XRevan86 | To maybe find that common ground. | Sep 19 19:31 |
| XRevan86 | But I don't think Putin is humiliated enough to pick it up just yet. | Sep 19 19:31 |
| techrights-news | Don't use Apple crap at all. A real watch lasts years without charge/battery change. https://www.maketecheasier.com/apple-watch-low-power-mode/ | Sep 19 19:31 |
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| mixling | i don't consider Putin/Russians being the aggressor in this case, nor the trouble source; doesn't make me an ally of anyone either, it's just another perspective | Sep 19 19:32 |
| techrights-news | "Today is a bank holiday so I was free from work. Sadly it was due to the Queen's funeral. So of course, I felt obliged to watch as I did some Scout digital stuff. As ever with these things, there is a lot of nonsense." gopher://sdf.org:70/0/users/stug/phlog/20220919.txt | Sep 19 19:33 |
| mixling | germany: "missing 40000 teachers" staff... as far as i am concerned, another -1 of myself, i'll not lecture any of the mob who offered nothing but insults and disrespect in return | Sep 19 19:33 |
| XRevan86 | "I don't consider Putin/Russians being the aggressor in this case, nor the trouble source" <- I absolutely do. | Sep 19 19:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Kubuntu: Plasma 5.26 Beta available for testing | Sep 19 19:34 | |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Darktable 4.0.1 Released with Various Bug-Fixes, PPA Updated ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/19/Darktable_4_0_1_Released_with_Various_Bug_Fixes_PPA_Updated.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/19/Darktable_4_0_1_Released_with_Various_Bug_Fixes_PPA_Updated.gmi ∎ | Sep 19 19:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Darktable 4.0.1 Released with Various Bug-Fixes, PPA Updated | Sep 19 19:34 | |
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| techrights-news | Today a young Brit will face a royal CoC (Code of Conduct). "Andrew" the 'prince' can screw girls, but you only face charges for shouting at "Andrew" the 'prince' for screwing girls... | Sep 19 19:37 |
| techrights-news | In a similar vein, in FOSS/tech the CoC is protecting vulnerable minorities such as Google and Microsoft... from people who 'HECKLE' them over their war crimes, corruption etc. | Sep 19 19:39 |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Looking at Wayland terminal emulators ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/19/Looking_at_Wayland_terminal_emulators.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/19/Looking_at_Wayland_terminal_emulators.gmi ∎ | Sep 19 19:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Looking at Wayland terminal emulators | Sep 19 19:39 | |
| techrights-news | A prelude to Web censorship by Google: "The Chrome Root Program ultimately determines which website certificates are trusted by default in Chrome, and enables more consistent and reliable website certificate validation across platforms." https://blog.chromium.org/2022/09/announcing-launch-of-chrome-root-program.html Google: IMPERIALISM PRIVATISED | Sep 19 19:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.chromium.org | Chromium Blog: Announcing the Launch of the Chrome Root Program | Sep 19 19:41 | |
| mixling | the recent numbers cited: Poland demands more than 1billion (US trillion) from germany, Ukraine demands 0.3Billion (US trillion) from russia, reparations | Sep 19 19:42 |
| techrights-news | Fedora at OpenAlt 2022 | Brno hat ⚓ https://eischmann.wordpress.com/2022/09/19/fedora-at-openalt-2022/ ䷉ Source: | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//eischmann.wordpress.com/2022/09/19/fedora-at-openalt-2022/ | Sep 19 19:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-eischmann.wordpress.com | Fedora at OpenAlt 2022 | Brno hat | Sep 19 19:42 | |
| mixling | given this, US budget is filled by payments for gas... this might explain why gas prices explode beyond good and evil | Sep 19 19:42 |
| mixling | -US, Russian budget | Sep 19 19:43 |
| techrights-news | Google = gatekeeper for lies. I remember when it used to have a search engine that tried to return results useful to you, not useful to those in power | Sep 19 19:44 |
| mixling | hence, gas/energy which doesn't exist cannot be sold, nor consumed, nor taxed, and accounted for with reparations either, the most recent one | Sep 19 19:44 |
| mixling | another reason why, it's probably best, to disconnect Druzhba | Sep 19 19:45 |
| techrights-news | "PDF files were designed to promote sharing. Everyone can open them—in their web browser if they have nothing else. Linux lets you manipulate, merge, and split PDF files on the command line." https://www.howtogeek.com/827186/how-to-make-and-combine-pdf-files-on-the-linux-command-line/ | Sep 19 19:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.howtogeek.com | How to Make and Combine PDF Files on the Linux Command Line | Sep 19 19:45 | |
| mixling | in Greece, the government there boiled up the reparations argument whenever there was an opportunity too | Sep 19 19:46 |
| mixling | and recently, some newspapers reported they burned energy bills there... i see | Sep 19 19:47 |
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| mixling | with USA, they utilize the "carbon certificate" and NATO budget, to re-route cash into their pockets | Sep 19 19:47 |
| techrights-news | Google (Gulag) and Web security are opposites. Owing to Chrome, the Web itself has become antithetical to security. | Sep 19 19:47 |
| mixling | and a similar mindset and explanation involved... | Sep 19 19:48 |
| mixling | they're just not demanding reparations, they discuss "anti-semitism" and "racism" instead, and "democracy" of theirs, why they supposedly defended | Sep 19 19:48 |
| mixling | *which | Sep 19 19:49 |
| mixling | by coincidence, Ukraine,Poland whom did they ally with? USA | Sep 19 19:49 |
| techrights-news | Meh. Twitter is a waste of time. It's a bot farm. Designed to make you FEEL like your time is not wasted. https://cosimameyer.com/post/curating-r-ladies-twitter-account-a-fun-ride/ | Sep 19 19:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosimameyer.com | Curating R-Ladies' Twitter Account - A Fun Ride! | Sep 19 19:49 | |
| techrights-news | "Unfortunately for us, rgb doesn’t correspond to how we truly sense colour. It was designed for the convenience of use with electrical equipment." https://finnstats.com/index.php/2022/09/16/lab-to-delta-e-conversion-in-r/ | Sep 19 19:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-LAB to Delta E conversion in R » finnstats | Sep 19 19:50 | |
| techrights-news | trolling or trawling? https://datawookie.dev/blog/2022/09/squares-spirals/ | Sep 19 19:50 |
| mixling | and in germany, we got a government here, and a media apparatus, industry CEOs, who are they? "atlantic bridge" washington minions | Sep 19 19:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-datawookie.dev | Squares & Spirals | Sep 19 19:50 | |
| techrights-news | Bloomberg promoting mass surveillance everywhere you go https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2022-08-27/what-does-a-digital-city-look-like-in-the-metaverse | Sep 19 19:51 |
| techrights-news | "Rigorous math proves neural networks can train on minimal data, providing ‘new hope’ for quantum HEY HI and taking a big step toward quantum advantage" https://discover.lanl.gov/news/0823-quantum-ai | Sep 19 19:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bloomberg - Are you a robot? | Sep 19 19:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-discover.lanl.gov | Quantum AI breakthrough: theorem shrinks appetite for training data | Discover Los Alamos National Laboratory | Sep 19 19:51 | |
| techrights-news | Decoding Canine Cognition ⚓ https://news.emory.edu/features/2022/09/er_decoding_canine_cognition_14-09-2022/ ䷉ Source: Yahoo News | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//news.emory.edu/features/2022/09/er_decoding_canine_cognition_14-09-2022/ | Sep 19 19:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.emory.edu | Decoding Canine Cognition | Sep 19 19:52 | |
| techrights-news | "Many people don’t realize: Transitioning Ethereum to “proof-of-stake” (PoS) – an alternative to “proof-of-work” (PoW) mining for reaching consensus on blocks of transactions – was an insane feat." https://a16zcrypto.com/what-the-merge-means/ price collapsed since | Sep 19 19:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-a16zcrypto.com | What The Merge Means - a16z crypto | Sep 19 19:53 | |
| techrights-news | Vapourware https://www.seas.harvard.edu/news/2022/09/harvard-and-aws-launch-alliance-advance-research-quantum-science | Sep 19 19:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.seas.harvard.edu | Harvard and AWS launch alliance to advance research in quantum science | Sep 19 19:53 | |
| techrights-news | "Richard Rusczyk, founder of Art of Problem Solving, has a vision for bringing “joyous, beautiful math” — and problem-solving — to classrooms everywhere." https://www.quantamagazine.org/richard-rusczyk-is-a-math-evangelist-who-preaches-problem-solving-20220913/ | Sep 19 19:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.quantamagazine.org | Quanta Magazine | Sep 19 19:54 | |
| techrights-news | Simulation aids the search for the origin of cosmic rays - Newsportal - Ruhr-Universität Bochum ⚓ https://news.rub.de/english/press-releases/2022-09-13-astrophysics-simulation-aids-search-origin-cosmic-rays ䷉ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//news.rub.de/english/press-releases/2022-09-13-astrophysics-simulation-aids-search-origin-cosmic-rays | Sep 19 19:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.rub.de | Simulation aids the search for the origin of cosmic rays - Newsportal - Ruhr-Universität Bochum | Sep 19 19:55 | |
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| techrights-news | "Be honest for once": cost of secret trials rises as Government covers-up Timor spying fiasco - Michael West ⚓ https://michaelwest.com.au/cost-of-secret-trials-rises-as-government-covers-up-timor-spying-fiasco/ ䷉ Source: Michael West Media | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//michaelwest.com.au/cost-of-secret-trials-rises-as-government-covers-up-timor-spying-fiasco/ | Sep 19 19:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-michaelwest.com.au | "Be honest for once": cost of secret trials rises as Government covers-up Timor spying fiasco - Michael West | Sep 19 19:57 | |
| techrights-news | BillBC will start covering up for high-profile pedophiles when it stops hiring them and taking bribes from them. Unless then, taxpayers should avoid paying it a penny. | Sep 19 19:58 |
| techrights-news | Falk Lines: Information Commissioner fights for the right to hide information indefinitely, que? - Michael West ⚓ https://michaelwest.com.au/information-commissioner-angelene-falk-fights-to-delay-fois-indefinitely/ ䷉ Source: Michael West Media | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//michaelwest.com.au/information-commissioner-angelene-falk-fights-to-delay-fois-indefinitely/ | Sep 19 20:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-michaelwest.com.au | Falk Lines: Information Commissioner fights for the right to hide information indefinitely, que? - Michael West | Sep 19 20:00 | |
| MinceR | 19 201401 < XRevan86> mixling: Aren't ye concerned about stopping the people who do things like https://pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/09/19/7368045/ ? | Sep 19 20:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pravda.com.ua | Invaders hit South Ukraine Nuclear Power Plant ? Energoatom | Ukrainska Pravda | Sep 19 20:02 | |
| MinceR | he believes his faith in putler will protect him from radiation sickness | Sep 19 20:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | he is a heavy smoker | Sep 19 20:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | he does not value health | Sep 19 20:03 |
| techrights-news | 1.64.0 pre-release testing | Inside Rust Blog ⚓ https://blog.rust-lang.org/inside-rust/2022/09/19/1.64.0-prerelease.html ䷉ Source: Rust Blog | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.rust-lang.org/inside-rust/2022/09/19/1.64.0-prerelease.html | Sep 19 20:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.rust-lang.org | 1.64.0 pre-release testing | Inside Rust Blog | Sep 19 20:03 | |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (UPDATED): KDE Announces "Plasma Bigscreen" for TV UI, Brings 5.26 Beta ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/16/KDE_Announces_Plasma_Bigscreen_for_TV_UI_Brings_5_26_Beta.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/16/KDE_Announces_Plasma_Bigscreen_for_TV_UI_Brings_5_26_Beta.gmi ∎ | Sep 19 20:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — KDE Announces "Plasma Bigscreen" for TV UI, Brings 5.26 Beta | Sep 19 20:05 | |
| AdmFubar | they are such geniuses!!!! https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/sep/19/iphone-14-pro-max-camera-optical-image-stabilisation-motor | Sep 19 20:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Bug in iPhone 14 Pro Max causes camera to physically fail, users say | Apple | The Guardian | Sep 19 20:06 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | Matthew Garrett (@mjg59): "httpMatthew Garrett (@mjg59): "https://www.google.com/search?q=%22guest+post+by+ryan%22+site%3Atechrights.org - this isn't some random dude, Roy posts his content frequently. Roy's fully aware of his transphobia, he just doesn't care."|nitter.it ⚓ https://nitter.eu/mjg59/status/1571588634733875205 ䷉ Source: | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https | Sep 19 20:08 |
| schestowitz[TR] | %3A//nitter.eu/mjg59/status/1571588634733875205s://www.google.com/search?q=%22guest+post+by+ryan%22+site%3Atechrights.org - this isn't some random dude, Roy posts his content frequently. Roy's fully aware of his transphobia, he just doesn't care."|nitter.it ⚓ https://nitter.eu/mjg59/status/1571588634733875205 ䷉ Source: | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//nitter.eu/ | Sep 19 20:08 |
| schestowitz[TR] | mjg59/status/1571588634733875205 | Sep 19 20:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Matthew Garrett (@mjg59): "https://www.google.com/search?q=%22guest+post+by+ryan%22+site%3Atechrights.org - this isn't some random dude, Roy posts his content frequently. Roy's fully aware of his transphobia, he just doesn't care."|nitter.it | Sep 19 20:08 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | you are a sick man, mjg59_ | Sep 19 20:08 |
| schestowitz[TR] | now you try to publicly hold me accountable for people I don't agree with | Sep 19 20:08 |
| schestowitz[TR] | go seek help | Sep 19 20:08 |
| schestowitz[TR] | you've also confirmed the purpose of your presence here | Sep 19 20:09 |
| schestowitz[TR] | a snake and troll | Sep 19 20:09 |
| schestowitz[TR] | DaemonFC is what you cherry-pick | Sep 19 20:09 |
| schestowitz[TR] | DM (@Dewix888): "Mostly Microsoft using various forms of corruption, coercion - anti-competitive measures (expand, embrace & Extinguish) to ensure thier products are the defacto standard. http://techrights.org/2019/11/09/christian-ude-on-microsoft/"|nitter.it | Sep 19 20:09 |
| schestowitz[TR] | twitter= ok with microsoft boosters | Sep 19 20:10 |
| schestowitz[TR] | bans microsoft critics | Sep 19 20:10 |
| schestowitz[TR] | takes bribes from gates and microsoft | Sep 19 20:10 |
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| mixling | "Poland and Balticum close borders to Russia" | Sep 19 20:16 |
| MinceR | [insert half-hour rage about how poland and the baltic states are pure evil] | Sep 19 20:17 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-18.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-19.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Sep 19 20:20 |
| mjg59_ | schestowitz[TR]: Sorry, do you disagree that you're aware of Ryan's transphobia? | Sep 19 20:22 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | Matthew Garrett (@mjg59): "httpMatthew Garrett (@mjg59): "https://www.google.com/search?q=%22guest+post+by+ryan%22+site%3Atechrights.org - this isn't some random dude, Roy posts his content frequently. Roy's fully aware of his transphobia, he just doesn't care."|nitter.it ⚓ https://nitter.eu/mjg59/status/1571588634733875205 ䷉ Source: | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/v | Sep 19 20:22 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | he just cant help himself | Sep 19 20:23 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | this is how he saves the world, by stopping a blogger from reposting content from a guy he thinks is a dick | Sep 19 20:23 |
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| highest_cubist_thrills | join me twitter! lets harass someone into not reposting tech articles on a tech blog! | Sep 19 20:26 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | see if it works | Sep 19 20:26 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | poor mjg, this is a guy who makes every ddos into a badge of honour | Sep 19 20:27 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | if you cancel him now he will be stronger than ever before | Sep 19 20:27 |
| schestowitz[TR] | schestowitz[TR]> garrett: I hold free speech dear...ly | Sep 19 20:27 |
| schestowitz[TR] | <schestowitz[TR]> I censor people and their tech articles | Sep 19 20:27 |
| schestowitz[TR] | <schestowitz[TR]> because... something unrelated | Sep 19 20:27 |
| schestowitz[TR] | <schestowitz[TR]> and I also troll irc network | Sep 19 20:27 |
| schestowitz[TR] | <schestowitz[TR]> trolling is 'free speech' | Sep 19 20:27 |
| schestowitz[TR] | <schestowitz[TR]> and I really like free speech | Sep 19 20:27 |
| schestowitz[TR] | <schestowitz[TR]> I even send lawyers to attack people over their speech | Sep 19 20:27 |
| schestowitz[TR] | <schestowitz[TR]> you have the brain of a banana split... it doesn't work | Sep 19 20:27 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | well, lessig did similar | Sep 19 20:27 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | i honestly think mjg was a bit of a copycat with that | Sep 19 20:27 |
| schestowitz[TR] | mention corruption in some org | Sep 19 20:27 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | he said "im a teacher, this affects my students" | Sep 19 20:27 |
| schestowitz[TR] | trolls change the subject to... genders | Sep 19 20:27 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | the lessig interview said the same | Sep 19 20:28 |
| schestowitz[TR] | not a coincidence | Sep 19 20:28 |
| schestowitz[TR] | it's a method | Sep 19 20:28 |
| schestowitz[TR] | <schestowitz[TR]> must have struck a nerve lately | Sep 19 20:28 |
| schestowitz[TR] | <schestowitz[TR]> LF? | Sep 19 20:28 |
| schestowitz[TR] | <schestowitz[TR]> SFC? | Sep 19 20:28 |
| schestowitz[TR] | <schestowitz[TR]> The trolling intensified | Sep 19 20:28 |
| schestowitz[TR] | <schestowitz[TR]> trolling in IRC = free speech | Sep 19 20:28 |
| schestowitz[TR] | <schestowitz[TR]> writing technical articles = "hate" | Sep 19 20:28 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | a lot of the gender conversation is valid though | Sep 19 20:28 |
| schestowitz[TR] | not for this channel | Sep 19 20:28 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | when both of you bullshit someone, you start with a kernel of truth | Sep 19 20:28 |
| schestowitz[TR] | not relevant | Sep 19 20:28 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | sure it is | Sep 19 20:28 |
| schestowitz[TR] | to techrights? | Sep 19 20:28 |
| schestowitz[TR] | how is this relevant? | Sep 19 20:28 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | yes | Sep 19 20:28 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | well its funny because | Sep 19 20:28 |
| schestowitz[TR] | it's a edge | Sep 19 20:28 |
| mixling | nope MinceR, i am removing GNU-buildsystem and GNU-toolchain meanwhile | Sep 19 20:28 |
| schestowitz[TR] | not related to tyech at all | Sep 19 20:28 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | not only are there other reasons | Sep 19 20:28 |
| mixling | currently hacking lua buildsystem to avoid those | Sep 19 20:29 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | but you MAKE it relevant when you do articles on this very thing | Sep 19 20:29 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | once its a trope of cancel culture | Sep 19 20:29 |
| schestowitz[TR] | I don't write about this | Sep 19 20:29 |
| schestowitz[TR] | ever | Sep 19 20:29 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | it became relevant | Sep 19 20:29 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | im confident i can find examples | Sep 19 20:29 |
| schestowitz[TR] | I mentioned it 15 years ago | Sep 19 20:29 |
| schestowitz[TR] | when trolls in sites like linsux and USENET defamed me | Sep 19 20:29 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | well 15 years ago is more than never | Sep 19 20:29 |
| schestowitz[TR] | saying I had cut offf my dick | Sep 19 20:29 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | i think it was more recent | Sep 19 20:29 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | like past couple years | Sep 19 20:29 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | at any rate, people are going to talk about discrimination in tech | Sep 19 20:31 |
| schestowitz[TR] | anyway, back to tech now | Sep 19 20:31 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | some people will do it because it matters | Sep 19 20:31 |
| XRevan86 | https://nytimes.com/2022/09/18/us/womens-march-russia-trump.html | Sep 19 20:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | How Russian Trolls Helped Keep the Women’s March Out of Lock Step - The New York Times | Sep 19 20:31 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | there is disrimination | Sep 19 20:31 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | others will weaponise it-- which you have absolutely written about | Sep 19 20:31 |
| schestowitz[TR] | motly against women and minorities | Sep 19 20:31 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | and when you write about how they weaponise it | Sep 19 20:31 |
| schestowitz[TR] | there are many of them | Sep 19 20:31 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | theyre going to come and say "no we dont" | Sep 19 20:31 |
| schestowitz[TR] | the troll;s doen't focus on women | Sep 19 20:31 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | theyre lying | Sep 19 20:31 |
| schestowitz[TR] | they hardly focus on minorities | Sep 19 20:31 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | but its a predictable outcome | Sep 19 20:31 |
| schestowitz[TR] | they focus on the edge cases | Sep 19 20:31 |
| schestowitz[TR] | to provoke and get rude responses | Sep 19 20:32 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | you dont have to tell me that people illigetimately weaponise legitimate social issues | Sep 19 20:32 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | its a fact | Sep 19 20:32 |
| schestowitz[TR] | anyway, biab | Sep 19 20:32 |
| schestowitz[TR] | this is not on topic anyway | Sep 19 20:32 |
| schestowitz[TR] | we got epo leaks | Sep 19 20:32 |
| schestowitz[TR] | corruption has no gender | Sep 19 20:32 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | electric patent orchestra | Sep 19 20:33 |
| schestowitz[TR] | "All the Appellant in the internal appeals registered under the numbers RI/2022/011-00 to RI/2022/011-39, RI/2022/011-41 to RI/2022/011-058 received an e-mail from the IAC Secretariat asking their view on the possible initiation of a test-case procedure. The answer should be sent by the 14 September. These appeals challenge the general decision of the education and childcare reform. Considering the complex aspects of the reform SUE | Sep 19 20:33 |
| schestowitz[TR] | PO TH advises you to answer along the lines indicating below. The following text may be used as model when replying to the IAC Secretariat. | Sep 19 20:33 |
| schestowitz[TR] | " | Sep 19 20:33 |
| schestowitz[TR] | we have a big series coming soon | Sep 19 20:33 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | thats what she said | Sep 19 20:33 |
| schestowitz[TR] | datz sexist | Sep 19 20:34 |
| schestowitz[TR] | wow, twitter is so dead | Sep 19 20:35 |
| schestowitz[TR] | I just spent 20 minutes | Sep 19 20:35 |
| schestowitz[TR] | looking at 10 days of notifications in 2 accounts | Sep 19 20:35 |
| schestowitz[TR] | it's like half the life in that site, bots included, has vanished | Sep 19 20:35 |
| schestowitz[TR] | becoming a ghost town within moonths | Sep 19 20:35 |
| schestowitz[TR] | mastodon the same | Sep 19 20:35 |
| schestowitz[TR] | apparwently FB | Sep 19 20:35 |
| schestowitz[TR] | but I'm not there | Sep 19 20:35 |
| schestowitz[TR] | it's dsocial control media as a whole that's collapsing | Sep 19 20:35 |
| schestowitz[TR] | is anything of value happening in diaspora? | Sep 19 20:36 |
| schestowitz[TR] | the major pods are not big | Sep 19 20:36 |
| schestowitz[TR] | not after some shut down | Sep 19 20:36 |
| schestowitz[TR] | https://the-federation.info/node/diasp.de | Sep 19 20:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-the-federation.info | the federation - a statistics hub | Sep 19 20:37 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | 80 | Sep 19 20:37 |
| schestowitz[TR] | Monthly users | Sep 19 20:37 |
| schestowitz[TR] | diasp.de | Sep 19 20:37 |
| schestowitz[TR] | Last 6 months active users: 172 | Sep 19 20:37 |
| schestowitz[TR] | less than half | Sep 19 20:37 |
| schestowitz[TR] | https://the-federation.info/diaspora | Sep 19 20:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-the-federation.info | the federation - a statistics hub | Sep 19 20:37 | |
| AdmFubar | https://www.mercurynews.com/2022/09/17/how-clever-mechanics-keep-50-year-old-bart-trains-running-windows-98-ebay-and-scraps/ | Sep 19 20:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mercurynews.com | 50-year-old BART: How clever mechanics use Windows 98 and eBay | Sep 19 20:37 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | # of nodes doing down | Sep 19 20:37 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | wow, twitter is so dead <- i dont agree | Sep 19 20:37 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | anyone left doing free software uses it | Sep 19 20:38 |
| schestowitz[TR] | active users falling | Sep 19 20:38 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | but then again, dead from dead is dead so | Sep 19 20:38 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | you may have a point | Sep 19 20:38 |
| schestowitz[TR] | it's relative | Sep 19 20:38 |
| schestowitz[TR] | it used to be big 5 years ago | Sep 19 20:38 |
| MinceR | why would anyone interested in free software use shitter? | Sep 19 20:38 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | thats what she said | Sep 19 20:38 |
| schestowitz[TR] | twitter evn made first-ever profit that year | Sep 19 20:38 |
| MinceR | it's not free, it's not even lightweight | Sep 19 20:38 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | <MinceR> why would anyone interested in free software use shitter? <- why would anyone wishing to suruve the next 10 years invade ukraine? | Sep 19 20:39 |
| schestowitz[TR] | https://the-federation.info/ | Sep 19 20:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-the-federation.info | the federation - a statistics hub | Sep 19 20:39 | |
| MinceR | it's a wretched hive of corporate SJWs | Sep 19 20:39 |
| schestowitz[TR] | diaspora is down, down, down | Sep 19 20:39 |
| schestowitz[TR] | FB is so down even FB admits this to shareholders... years late | Sep 19 20:39 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | diaspora never could get it up | Sep 19 20:39 |
| schestowitz[TR] | https://the-federation.info/mastodon | Sep 19 20:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-the-federation.info | the federation - a statistics hub | Sep 19 20:39 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | I should take some screenshots | Sep 19 20:40 |
| schestowitz[TR] | of these graphs | Sep 19 20:40 |
| schestowitz[TR] | it's a JS bloat | Sep 19 20:41 |
| schestowitz[TR] | not real web pages | Sep 19 20:41 |
| schestowitz[TR] | also very slow to load | Sep 19 20:41 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | <MinceR> it's not free, it's not even lightweight <- youre saying twitter is non-free | Sep 19 20:42 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | im aware of this | Sep 19 20:42 |
| schestowitz[TR] | mastodon.social almost a million usrrs | Sep 19 20:42 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | github is also non-free, but gnu uses it | Sep 19 20:42 |
| schestowitz[TR] | it's not decentralised | Sep 19 20:42 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | i think shitter is bullshit | Sep 19 20:42 |
| MinceR | gnu is dead | Sep 19 20:42 |
| schestowitz[TR] | the lion's share of users remained in one place or few | Sep 19 20:42 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | <MinceR> gnu is dead <- i know | Sep 19 20:42 |
| MinceR | and shitter is more of interest to the enemies of free software than to the community | Sep 19 20:42 |
| schestowitz[TR] | one quarter of all users gets controlled by one person | Sep 19 20:43 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | thats also true | Sep 19 20:43 |
| schestowitz[TR] | or few mods | Sep 19 20:43 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | and shitter is more of interest to the enemies of free software than to the community <- using shitter is a dumb idea | Sep 19 20:43 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | yet even the people who are too wise to use github | Sep 19 20:43 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | still use shitter | Sep 19 20:43 |
| schestowitz[TR] | in mastodon.social only a quarter fo the user remains active | Sep 19 20:43 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | it has not offended them sufficientl | Sep 19 20:43 |
| MinceR | hopefully the community is not only such unwise people | Sep 19 20:43 |
| schestowitz[TR] | based on 6 months | Sep 19 20:44 |
| schestowitz[TR] | wow, or 7% based on this past month | Sep 19 20:44 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | <MinceR> hopefully the community is not only such unwise people <- the community is also dead, so | Sep 19 20:44 |
| schestowitz[TR] | so only 1 in 12 users in mastodon.social is active this month | Sep 19 20:44 |
| schestowitz[TR] | this is dying fast | Sep 19 20:44 |
| schestowitz[TR] | better drop it like a hot place | Sep 19 20:44 |
| schestowitz[TR] | *plate | Sep 19 20:44 |
| schestowitz[TR] | it's going nowher fast | Sep 19 20:44 |
| schestowitz[TR] | I wonn't do a post with screenshoits though as it would be like kicking a FOSS project while it's down | Sep 19 20:45 |
| schestowitz[TR] | or "bashing" it | Sep 19 20:45 |
| schestowitz[TR] | that's how people see it | Sep 19 20:45 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | or kicking a puppy | Sep 19 20:45 |
| schestowitz[TR] | diaspora and mastodon are dying projects | Sep 19 20:45 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | die-aspora | Sep 19 20:45 |
| schestowitz[TR] | the twitter and FB users leave... but not flocking to the fake promise of 'open' networks | Sep 19 20:45 |
| schestowitz[TR] | that shut down, censor, won't let you download/move your data... | Sep 19 20:46 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | I wonn't do a post with screenshoits though as it would be like kicking a FOSS project while it's down <- sympathy is foolish | Sep 19 20:46 |
| schestowitz[TR] | it's twitter also | Sep 19 20:46 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | antisocial media (including dumbarsepora and masturdon) featured prominently in the coup | Sep 19 20:46 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | and theyre good for little else | Sep 19 20:46 |
| schestowitz[TR] | February | Sep 19 20:46 |
| schestowitz[TR] | http://techrights.org/2022/02/10/social-control-media-bubbles/ | Sep 19 20:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Social Control Media is a Bubble and JoinDiaspora Might be the Next Casualty | Techrights | Sep 19 20:46 | |
| highest_cubist_thrills | dont kick it when its down, take it out back and shoot it | Sep 19 20:46 |
| schestowitz[TR] | aged well | Sep 19 20:47 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | like a sick horse | Sep 19 20:47 |
| schestowitz[TR] | because FB collapsed | Sep 19 20:47 |
| schestowitz[TR] | 80% fall I heard | Sep 19 20:47 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and twitter is in chaos | Sep 19 20:47 |
| schestowitz[TR] | due to musk | Sep 19 20:47 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and its own whistleblower | Sep 19 20:47 |
| schestowitz[TR] | the users don't turn to diaspora and mastodon | Sep 19 20:47 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | i think shitter has recovered from musk, you just dont have a new story about it so youre stretching it out | Sep 19 20:47 |
| schestowitz[TR] | they just get on with life... real life | Sep 19 20:47 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | like musk is still relevant to any of this | Sep 19 20:47 |
| schestowitz[TR] | no | Sep 19 20:48 |
| schestowitz[TR] | many left | Sep 19 20:48 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and never came back | Sep 19 20:48 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | this is becoming a techrights trope | Sep 19 20:48 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | many left! | Sep 19 20:48 |
| schestowitz[TR] | twitter is still begging to sell | Sep 19 20:48 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | dead real soon now! | Sep 19 20:48 |
| schestowitz[TR] | because it loses money adn has no futurr | Sep 19 20:48 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | mldrsn | Sep 19 20:48 |
| schestowitz[TR] | other than mass manipulators for hire | Sep 19 20:48 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | you could practically change the name of techrights to | Sep 19 20:48 |
| schestowitz[TR] | "vell his ded" | Sep 19 20:49 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | many left dead real soon (rights) | Sep 19 20:49 |
| schestowitz[TR] | we still have a TON of material on github | Sep 19 20:49 |
| schestowitz[TR] | but pacing publication down | Sep 19 20:49 |
| schestowitz[TR] | grvaeley got fired | Sep 19 20:49 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | nobody cares | Sep 19 20:49 |
| schestowitz[TR] | but I want the hard document | Sep 19 20:49 |
| schestowitz[TR] | highest_cubist_thrills: microsoft care | Sep 19 20:50 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | thats what... | Sep 19 20:50 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | not even them | Sep 19 20:50 |
| schestowitz[TR] | it's connected to github management | Sep 19 20:50 |
| schestowitz[TR] | nat friendman is lawyering up | Sep 19 20:50 |
| schestowitz[TR] | *friedman | Sep 19 20:50 |
| schestowitz[TR] | sending material | Sep 19 20:50 |
| schestowitz[TR] | for court cases | Sep 19 20:50 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | good, maybe in a few years we will be joking #natfriedmandidntkillhimself | Sep 19 20:51 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | i would laugh, but it wont change github is my point | Sep 19 20:51 |
| schestowitz[TR] | these are ilk of mjg59_ | Sep 19 20:51 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | sort of | Sep 19 20:51 |
| schestowitz[TR] | people who publicly advertise penis piercings and stuff | Sep 19 20:51 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | definitely related | Sep 19 20:51 |
| schestowitz[TR] | siock people who get naked at parties | Sep 19 20:51 |
| schestowitz[TR] | but mjg59_ is not bothered by them | Sep 19 20:51 |
| schestowitz[TR] | rms stares at peole | Sep 19 20:51 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | people who publicly advertise penis piercings and stuff <- this is just your personal prudishness | Sep 19 20:51 |
| schestowitz[TR] | that's breaking boundaries | Sep 19 20:51 |
| schestowitz[TR] | take it out on the asperger people | Sep 19 20:52 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | its hilarious that you say gender isnt relevant but you think penis piercings are | Sep 19 20:52 |
| schestowitz[TR] | not github ceo getting naked at parties | Sep 19 20:52 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and making rape JOKES | Sep 19 20:52 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | /me informs roy that aspies get genital piercings too | Sep 19 20:52 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | i mean it really does have nothing to do with anything | Sep 19 20:53 |
| schestowitz[TR] | the same person also had underage sex | Sep 19 20:53 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | its a red herring | Sep 19 20:53 |
| schestowitz[TR] | with the CEO of a company | Sep 19 20:53 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | right | Sep 19 20:53 |
| schestowitz[TR] | that na is deeply connected to | Sep 19 20:53 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | but when corporations do it, no one cares | Sep 19 20:53 |
| schestowitz[TR] | right | Sep 19 20:53 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | bill gates: no one cares | Sep 19 20:53 |
| schestowitz[TR] | that's my point | Sep 19 20:53 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | stallman: only said something in email | Sep 19 20:53 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | well i agree | Sep 19 20:53 |
| schestowitz[TR] | mjg59_: omg, some guy wrote tech articles | Sep 19 20:53 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | people are stupid | Sep 19 20:53 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and i don't agree on biology, so omg omg omg | Sep 19 20:53 |
| schestowitz[TR] | bill gates? meh, nothinh here | Sep 19 20:53 |
| schestowitz[TR] | "I want my next 6-figure salary job" | Sep 19 20:54 |
| mjg59_ | Oh, so you think transphobia is just a disagreement about biology? | Sep 19 20:54 |
| schestowitz[TR] | go write about bill gates | Sep 19 20:54 |
| schestowitz[TR] | go ehad | Sep 19 20:54 |
| schestowitz[TR] | I can give you pointers | Sep 19 20:54 |
| schestowitz[TR] | show your social justice warmanship | Sep 19 20:54 |
| mjg59_ | I concentrate on the free software community because that's what matters most to me | Sep 19 20:54 |
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| highest_cubist_thrills | you destroyed the community you care about | Sep 19 20:55 |
| schestowitz[TR] | you find DaemonFC more objectinable than bill gates? | Sep 19 20:55 |
| schestowitz[TR] | go on | Sep 19 20:55 |
| schestowitz[TR] | answer that | Sep 19 20:55 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | if you dont see that youre as ridiculous as eric s raymond | Sep 19 20:55 |
| MinceR | well, DaemonFC certainly pays him a lot less than gAIDS does | Sep 19 20:55 |
| mib_7i0wf4 | ? | Sep 19 20:55 |
| MinceR | so there's that | Sep 19 20:55 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | with slightly different motives | Sep 19 20:55 |
| schestowitz[TR] | hi, mib_7i0wf4 | Sep 19 20:55 |
| mjg59_ | daemonfc is part of the free software community, so I find his behaviour more relevant to things I care about than I do Bill Gates' | Sep 19 20:55 |
| schestowitz[TR] | hahahhaa | Sep 19 20:55 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | rofl | Sep 19 20:55 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | /me calls bullshit | Sep 19 20:55 |
| schestowitz[TR] | you are a liar and phony | Sep 19 20:55 |
| schestowitz[TR] | bill gates attacks our commmunity | Sep 19 20:55 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and has done this since the 70s | Sep 19 20:55 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | actually we need a new breed of cattle to categorise this level of shit | Sep 19 20:55 |
| mib_7i0wf4 | bill gates is here? | Sep 19 20:55 |
| schestowitz[TR] | go hide under a rock | Sep 19 20:55 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | maybe monsanto can create one | Sep 19 20:56 |
| schestowitz[TR] | mib_7i0wf4: no, his workers | Sep 19 20:56 |
| mib_7i0wf4 | oh | Sep 19 20:56 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | #billgatesdidntkillhimself | Sep 19 20:56 |
| schestowitz[TR] | mib_7i0wf4 is more afraid of DaemonFC than from bill gates | Sep 19 20:56 |
| schestowitz[TR] | oops | Sep 19 20:57 |
| schestowitz[TR] | sorry, mjg59_ | Sep 19 20:57 |
| schestowitz[TR] | not mib_7i0wf4 | Sep 19 20:57 |
| schestowitz[TR] | that's how absurb the argument became | Sep 19 20:57 |
| mib_7i0wf4 | oh okay | Sep 19 20:57 |
| schestowitz[TR] | so he would pick on some unemployed guy in IL | Sep 19 20:57 |
| schestowitz[TR] | but won't touch a person who attacked FoSS for 50 years | Sep 19 20:57 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | hes more relevant | Sep 19 20:57 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | somehow | Sep 19 20:57 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and bribes all the major media | Sep 19 20:57 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and I'm m,eant to think this makes sense | Sep 19 20:57 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | he wont attack ibm for killing millions based on racism | Sep 19 20:58 |
| mib_7i0wf4 | what are yall talking about | Sep 19 20:58 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | some idiot in irc talking about eugenics is more relevant | Sep 19 20:58 |
| schestowitz[TR] | even mjg59_ would constipate on his own buillshit by now | Sep 19 20:58 |
| mib_7i0wf4 | what is irc | Sep 19 20:58 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | maybe the fsf can give dfc a nobel peace software award | Sep 19 20:58 |
| mib_7i0wf4 | just report him to mibbit | Sep 19 20:58 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | obvious troll is obvious | Sep 19 20:58 |
| schestowitz[TR] | mib_7i0wf4: mibbit is a gateway for irc | Sep 19 20:59 |
| schestowitz[TR] | the troll we deal with dos not use mibbit | Sep 19 20:59 |
| schestowitz[TR] | he uses a Saudi site | Sep 19 20:59 |
| schestowitz[TR] | to defame me | Sep 19 20:59 |
| mib_7i0wf4 | okay then report him to irc | Sep 19 20:59 |
| schestowitz[TR] | saudi site | Sep 19 20:59 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▃▇▁▂▅▇▅▅▆▃▃▅▆▇▆▄▅▁▅▁▅▁▁▅▆▆▂▃▆▃▄▁ avg(k/sec) 23.71 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▁▁█▁▂▁▂▁█▁█▁▁▂▂▃▁▂▂█▁█▁█▁▁▁▂█▁▁▂▁▁ avg(k/sec) 78.98▕ swarm size (avg): 157.75 ⟲ | Sep 19 20:59 |
| schestowitz[TR] | where women are beheaded for witchcraft | Sep 19 20:59 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and men for not believing in god | Sep 19 20:59 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | back real soon | Sep 19 20:59 |
| *highest_cubist_thrills has quit (connection closed) | Sep 19 20:59 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | mib_7i0wf4: we are the network | Sep 19 20:59 |
| schestowitz[TR] | irc is decentralie | Sep 19 20:59 |
| schestowitz[TR] | tthere is nobody to report to | Sep 19 21:00 |
| schestowitz[TR] | *decentralised | Sep 19 21:00 |
| schestowitz[TR] | he gets more protection in saudi twitter though | Sep 19 21:00 |
| mjg59_ | You literally run this server | Sep 19 21:00 |
| mjg59_ | It doesn't peer with anything else | Sep 19 21:00 |
| mjg59_ | It's not decentralised | Sep 19 21:00 |
| mjg59_ | You can kick me off here any time | Sep 19 21:01 |
| schestowitz[TR] | then you will whine | Sep 19 21:01 |
| mjg59_ | Oh no | Sep 19 21:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | you do;t understand the first amendement | Sep 19 21:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | which applies to you | Sep 19 21:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | not to me | Sep 19 21:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | or section 230 | Sep 19 21:02 |
| mib_7i0wf4 | i looked up irc and it doesnt say he owns it | Sep 19 21:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | irc is softare | Sep 19 21:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | ircd is a daemon that facilitates irc sessions | Sep 19 21:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | and there are thousands of networks | Sep 19 21:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | at least 500 large ones | Sep 19 21:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | and they are separate | Sep 19 21:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | anyoine can start one | Sep 19 21:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | *anyone | Sep 19 21:03 |
| mib_7i0wf4 | so its basically discord without features | Sep 19 21:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | unlike social control media or discord, there are no guilds | Sep 19 21:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | all the networks stand on their own | Sep 19 21:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | and might not rely on dns, either | Sep 19 21:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | discord is centralised | Sep 19 21:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | even if you think you use a "guild" | Sep 19 21:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | they are controlled remoately | Sep 19 21:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | same with matrix.org if I understand correctly | Sep 19 21:04 |
| mib_7i0wf4 | a guild is just a server right? | Sep 19 21:04 |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Inside the GTK font chooser ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/19/Inside_the_GTK_font_chooser.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/19/Inside_the_GTK_font_chooser.gmi ∎ | Sep 19 21:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Inside the GTK font chooser | Sep 19 21:04 | |
| schestowitz-TR | mib_7i0wf4: it is a virtual sub-scape | Sep 19 21:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | still controlled by the same company | Sep 19 21:04 |
| mib_7i0wf4 | hunh | Sep 19 21:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | which Microsoft wanted to buy at one point | Sep 19 21:05 |
| mjg59_ | schestowitz-TR: The 1st amendment constrains the government's ability to constrain my speech, not anyone else's | Sep 19 21:05 |
| MinceR | tencent owns at least part of discord, inc. | Sep 19 21:05 |
| techrights-news | radeonsi/vcn: Add ability to encode with ltr (!18219) · Merge requests · Mesa / mesa · GitLab ⚓ https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/merge_requests/18219?commit_id=9c5edda3ca29cd54fe7b57606878dc3e8702358f ䷉ Source: freedesktop | Sep 19 21:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gitlab.freedesktop.org | radeonsi/vcn: Add ability to encode with ltr (!18219) · Merge requests · Mesa / mesa · GitLab | Sep 19 21:06 | |
| MinceR | and the communist party of china controls tencent | Sep 19 21:06 |
| mib_7i0wf4 | not everyone lives in america so you have to consider the laws of everyone on the internet | Sep 19 21:06 |
| MinceR | the laws of nature, the laws of man | Sep 19 21:06 |
| mjg59_ | schestowitz-TR: You blocking my speech in any way has nothing to do with the 1st amendment | Sep 19 21:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | MinceR: that explains a lot | Sep 19 21:06 |
| MinceR | this volatile paradox will never stand | Sep 19 21:06 |
| mib_7i0wf4 | well some people just use free speech for their toxic language and its just gone too far | Sep 19 21:07 |
| mib_7i0wf4 | 1st amendment doesn't let you kill people | Sep 19 21:08 |
| MinceR | "Guns don't kill people, I do!" | Sep 19 21:08 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz[TR]people who publicly advertise penis piercings and stuff | Sep 19 21:08 |
| DaemonFC | Oh you mean a Prince Albert? | Sep 19 21:08 |
| mib_7i0wf4 | what | Sep 19 21:08 |
| DaemonFC | Well, at least he didn't ascend to the throne. | Sep 19 21:08 |
| techrights-news | "Take, for instance, the Kin, a social networking device which Microsoft spent a billion dollars developing just for it to be taken off the market after two months due to poor sales." https://www.inputmag.com/culture/aughts-gadgets-wikipedia-wikireader | Sep 19 21:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.inputmag.com | A ragtag community that updates this aughts Wikipedia gadget | Sep 19 21:09 | |
| mib_7i0wf4 | guns do kill people | Sep 19 21:09 |
| DaemonFC | Guns don't kill people. | Sep 19 21:09 |
| mib_7i0wf4 | then explain shootings | Sep 19 21:09 |
| mib_7i0wf4 | hint you cant | Sep 19 21:09 |
| MinceR | people kill people | Sep 19 21:09 |
| DaemonFC | Leave your goddamned hands in your own pockets and walk the other way and don't mug me, and you don't need to worry about me shooting you. | Sep 19 21:09 |
| DaemonFC | You know? Free advice. | Sep 19 21:09 |
| DaemonFC | That's the difference between a lawful gun owner like myself and some ghetto hood rat. | Sep 19 21:10 |
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| mib_7i0wf4 | well you are making it a race issue but okay | Sep 19 21:10 |
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| DaemonFC | Randomly shooting up the neighborhood with an illegal machine gun that they got despite the FOID Act somehow. | Sep 19 21:10 |
| mib_7i0wf4 | foid? | Sep 19 21:10 |
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| mib_7i0wf4 | and being a lawful owner doesnt make it okay to kill people | Sep 19 21:11 |
| mib_7i0wf4 | not all blacks kill people with their guns | Sep 19 21:11 |
| DaemonFC | highest_cubist_thrillshe just cant help himselfhighest_cubist_thrillsthis is how he saves the world, by stopping a blogger from reposting content from a guy he thinks is a dick | Sep 19 21:11 |
| DaemonFC | Saw that. Yes, mjg59_ is kind of a sad strange little man. | Sep 19 21:11 |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): YuzukiTsuru's Yuzuki Chameleon Pops an Allwinner H616 Chip Into a Raspberry Pi Model A Form Factor ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/19/YuzukiTsuru_s_Yuzuki_Chameleon_Pops_an_Allwinner_H616_Chip_Into.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/19/YuzukiTsuru_s_Yuzuki_Chameleon_Pops_an_Allwinner_H616_Chip_Into.gmi ∎ | Sep 19 21:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — YuzukiTsuru's Yuzuki Chameleon Pops an Allwinner H616 Chip Into a Raspberry Pi Model A Form Factor | Sep 19 21:11 | |
| DaemonFC | And he has my sympathy. | Sep 19 21:11 |
| mib_7i0wf4 | idk what happening but i think its all safe | Sep 19 21:12 |
| mib_7i0wf4 | just dont be a bigot is all | Sep 19 21:12 |
| schestowitz[TR] | he is not trans, he is JUST USING TRANS PEOPLE... as a WEDGE | Sep 19 21:12 |
| schestowitz[TR] | to advange his poor career | Sep 19 21:12 |
| mib_7i0wf4 | are yall talking about keffals? | Sep 19 21:12 |
| mib_7i0wf4 | hes not a guy | Sep 19 21:13 |
| mib_7i0wf4 | *she | Sep 19 21:13 |
| DaemonFC | I'll bet he's an absolute delight at parties. "You're a transphobe! You're a racist! You're a strangler! You're a rapist! Oh, and did I tell you about my other friends from Microsoft? Oh Ryan thinks South Park is funny and that makes him worse than Hitler!" - mjg59_ | Sep 19 21:13 |
| schestowitz[TR] | there is name/word for this | Sep 19 21:13 |
| schestowitz[TR] | but I forgot | Sep 19 21:13 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | it should be familiar | Sep 19 21:13 |
| DaemonFC | By transphobes, I mean Microsoft has transphobes who are in a position to do real damage and do real damage and want to and like it. | Sep 19 21:13 |
| DaemonFC | And mjg59_ sucks up to THEM. | Sep 19 21:14 |
| mib_7i0wf4 | is he a transphobic? | Sep 19 21:14 |
| schestowitz[TR] | graveley is relevant here | Sep 19 21:14 |
| schestowitz[TR] | the things he said | Sep 19 21:14 |
| schestowitz[TR] | manager of github copilot | Sep 19 21:14 |
| schestowitz[TR] | of NO interest to mjg59_ | Sep 19 21:14 |
| DaemonFC | And when I say gee I just don't understand this and I'm mildly uncomfortable, but....I don't think we should do anything bad to trans people. I just think it's odd. He pounces. | Sep 19 21:14 |
| DaemonFC | mjg59_ is pretty doubleminded. | Sep 19 21:14 |
| schestowitz[TR] | mjg59_ is more afraid of DaemonFC than of bill gates | Sep 19 21:14 |
| MinceR | you might be giving mjg59_ too much credit there :> | Sep 19 21:15 |
| mib_7i0wf4 | is DaemonFC transgender? | Sep 19 21:15 |
| schestowitz[TR] | half-minded | Sep 19 21:15 |
| mjg59_ | mib_7i0wf4: No, just transphobic | Sep 19 21:15 |
| DaemonFC | I don't hate trans people. | Sep 19 21:15 |
| schestowitz[TR] | mib_7i0wf4: you're new | Sep 19 21:15 |
| mib_7i0wf4 | yeah | Sep 19 21:15 |
| schestowitz[TR] | so I wll give you dsome background | Sep 19 21:15 |
| DaemonFC | I don't suggest anything bad should happen to trans people. | Sep 19 21:15 |
| schestowitz[TR] | mjg59_ is a very confused person | Sep 19 21:15 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and a troll | Sep 19 21:15 |
| schestowitz[TR] | he helps mirosoft | Sep 19 21:15 |
| mib_7i0wf4 | didnt you say you support guns | Sep 19 21:16 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and then hides behind minority groups | Sep 19 21:16 |
| schestowitz[TR] | inc. trans people | Sep 19 21:16 |
| mib_7i0wf4 | oh | Sep 19 21:16 |
| schestowitz[TR] | to attack people who criticise him | Sep 19 21:16 |
| MinceR | i support guns | Sep 19 21:16 |
| DaemonFC | mib_7i0wf4didnt you say you support guns | Sep 19 21:16 |
| schestowitz[TR] | using straw man arguments | Sep 19 21:16 |
| MinceR | humans are weak and fragile and so need guns | Sep 19 21:16 |
| schestowitz[TR] | he is her in irc because his time has NO VALUE | Sep 19 21:16 |
| DaemonFC | I think everyone who isn't some sort of dangerous felon should open carry, including the trans people. | Sep 19 21:16 |
| mib_7i0wf4 | mjg59_: so you are a transgender? | Sep 19 21:16 |
| schestowitz[TR] | so instead of getting shit done he is tryint to waste ours | Sep 19 21:16 |
| mjg59_ | mib_7i0wf4: No, but my partner is | Sep 19 21:16 |
| mib_7i0wf4 | i dont think its safe to let transgenders hav eguns because they like to kill themselves DaemonFC | Sep 19 21:17 |
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| DaemonFC | You're barking up the wrong tree, dude. Instead of attacking me, why don't you find someone who actually honestly hates them? | Sep 19 21:17 |
| MinceR | do you believe it's impossible to commit suicide without a gun? | Sep 19 21:17 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceRdo you believe it's impossible to commit suicide without a gun? | Sep 19 21:17 |
| techrights-news | Using the Linux apropos command – even if you have to fix it first https://www.networkworld.com/article/3674136/using-the-apropos-command-even-if-you-have-to-fix-it-first.html | Sep 19 21:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.networkworld.com | Using the Linux apropos command – even if you have to fix it first | Network World | Sep 19 21:17 | |
| DaemonFC | There's only about 999 other ways to kill yourself without a gun. | Sep 19 21:18 |
| DaemonFC | Same as killing other people. Or a lot of people at once. | Sep 19 21:18 |
| MinceR | pretty sure there are a lot more ways than that | Sep 19 21:18 |
| mib_7i0wf4 | well guns just give you another way | Sep 19 21:18 |
| mib_7i0wf4 | so it adds harm | Sep 19 21:18 |
| MinceR | so do knives | Sep 19 21:18 |
| MinceR | let's ban knives | Sep 19 21:18 |
| techrights-news | 9to5Linux always says "GNU/Linux". Techrights' influence;-) https://9to5linux.com/debian-gnu-linux-11-5-bullseye-released-with-53-security-updates-and-58-bug-fixes | Sep 19 21:18 |
| DaemonFC | If a person hates others that bad, or wants to die that much, they'll figure it out without a gun. | Sep 19 21:18 |
| techuser | I remember "dumb ways to die" ad | Sep 19 21:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Debian GNU/Linux 11.5 “Bullseye” Released with 53 Security Updates and 58 Bug Fixes - 9to5Linux | Sep 19 21:18 | |
| MinceR | so does falling off cliffs | Sep 19 21:18 |
| mib_7i0wf4 | well knives are illegal in some places | Sep 19 21:18 |
| DaemonFC | Only an idiot wants to ban lawful gun ownership. | Sep 19 21:18 |
| MinceR | let's ban the Earth | Sep 19 21:18 |
| MinceR | u got a loicence for that planet, m8? | Sep 19 21:18 |
| mib_7i0wf4 | so its not that crazy | Sep 19 21:18 |
| schestowitz[TR] | mib_7i0wf4: depends on the kkind of knives | Sep 19 21:18 |
| schestowitz[TR] | usually based on blade, length, tipp | Sep 19 21:19 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and grip | Sep 19 21:19 |
| MinceR | one can commit suicide by drowning in DHMO | Sep 19 21:19 |
| MinceR | let's ban DHMO | Sep 19 21:19 |
| DaemonFC | Right this very minute, using only things from Walmart, you could build a device that kills or maims about 50 people if you plant it right. | Sep 19 21:19 |
| DaemonFC | That's....more dangerous than a gun. | Sep 19 21:19 |
| schestowitz[TR] | let's ban bridges | Sep 19 21:19 |
| mib_7i0wf4 | well that can be banned | Sep 19 21:19 |
| DaemonFC | We need to ban London Bridges. | Sep 19 21:19 |
| MinceR | a human could strangle you to death | Sep 19 21:20 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-18.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-19.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Sep 19 21:20 |
| MinceR | let's ban humans! | Sep 19 21:20 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | mincer is a dhmo supremacist | Sep 19 21:20 |
| DaemonFC | I hear they're falling down. Falling down. Falling down. | Sep 19 21:20 |
| schestowitz[TR] | DaemonFC: they are above water | Sep 19 21:20 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | and roy lets him chat in irc because he doesnt care | Sep 19 21:20 |
| DaemonFC | Sounds like a safety problem to me. We need to figure this out. | Sep 19 21:20 |
| schestowitz[TR] | not a good way to commit suicide | Sep 19 21:20 |
| mib_7i0wf4 | okay i get what you are trying to say but its not okay to give transgenders guns if they are just going to kill themselves | Sep 19 21:20 |
| DaemonFC | And only then we should reopen them. | Sep 19 21:20 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | but effective | Sep 19 21:20 |
| schestowitz[TR] | the thames... unless you cannot swim | Sep 19 21:20 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | us vs thames | Sep 19 21:20 |
| mib_7i0wf4 | also they can just built better bridges | Sep 19 21:20 |
| MinceR | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxygen_toxicity | Sep 19 21:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Oxygen toxicity - Wikipedia | Sep 19 21:21 | |
| MinceR | it's time to ban oxygen. | Sep 19 21:21 |
| mib_7i0wf4 | not funny | Sep 19 21:21 |
| MinceR | maybe to you | Sep 19 21:21 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and paracetamol | Sep 19 21:21 |
| schestowitz[TR] | you can buy it over the counter btw | Sep 19 21:21 |
| schestowitz[TR] | they make limits | Sep 19 21:21 |
| schestowitz[TR] | like 3 packsgs | Sep 19 21:21 |
| schestowitz[TR] | so you go to 10 stores, get one pack in each | Sep 19 21:21 |
| schestowitz[TR] | painful slow death, but gets the job done | Sep 19 21:21 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and they only cost about 0.30 pounds | Sep 19 21:22 |
| schestowitz[TR] | (don't try this at home!) | Sep 19 21:22 |
| mib_7i0wf4 | well this just turned into advocating suicide which is not cool | Sep 19 21:22 |
| schestowitz[TR] | but jumping into a sidewalk is a lot cheaper and faster | Sep 19 21:22 |
| mib_7i0wf4 | esp when we are talking about trans women | Sep 19 21:22 |
| MinceR | ooh, another SJW | Sep 19 21:22 |
| schestowitz[TR] | mib_7i0wf4: no | Sep 19 21:22 |
| schestowitz[TR] | that's not what I did | Sep 19 21:22 |
| MinceR | we were running out of them... wait, what am i talking about? | Sep 19 21:22 |
| mib_7i0wf4 | im not a sjw just because i believe in human rights | Sep 19 21:22 |
| schestowitz[TR] | someone brought up suicicde, knives, bridges | Sep 19 21:22 |
| techuser | why is it wrong to know suicide methods? | Sep 19 21:23 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and I said it's easy to do that for those who want to | Sep 19 21:23 |
| DaemonFC | Right now, I'm engaged in some discussions about SeaMonkey. | Sep 19 21:23 |
| mib_7i0wf4 | because its going to convince more suicidal people to kill themselves | Sep 19 21:23 |
| MinceR | apparently self-defense is not a human right | Sep 19 21:23 |
| techuser | some of us don't want to live anymore | Sep 19 21:23 |
| schestowitz[TR] | frank sinatra stuffed his head in the oven | Sep 19 21:23 |
| schestowitz[TR] | terrible idea | Sep 19 21:23 |
| MinceR | owning knives is also not a human right | Sep 19 21:23 |
| DaemonFC | It turns out there's a plan to fork it and make the fork run on Goanna. | Sep 19 21:23 |
| mib_7i0wf4 | and alot of tiems those people are trans or trans-affiliated | Sep 19 21:23 |
| mib_7i0wf4 | what | Sep 19 21:23 |
| MinceR | having access to oxygen is not a human right | Sep 19 21:23 |
| schestowitz[TR] | hanging is a technical task | Sep 19 21:23 |
| mib_7i0wf4 | yeah? | Sep 19 21:23 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and need equipment | Sep 19 21:23 |
| DaemonFC | Which would probably make it a lot more compatible with the "modern" Web than what it is right now, chasing Firefox around as they drop APIs the Suite needs. | Sep 19 21:23 |
| schestowitz[TR] | (i'm not suicidal... never was) | Sep 19 21:24 |
| DaemonFC | The UX stuff is at least as important as the browser engine. | Sep 19 21:24 |
| DaemonFC | Firefox is so incredibly dumbed down. It's horrible. | Sep 19 21:24 |
| mib_7i0wf4 | okay | Sep 19 21:24 |
| mib_7i0wf4 | just use chrome | Sep 19 21:24 |
| DaemonFC | Then there's the issue of DRM. | Sep 19 21:24 |
| schestowitz[TR] | DaemonFC: that's by design | Sep 19 21:24 |
| schestowitz[TR] | managemene's ddirection | Sep 19 21:24 |
| schestowitz[TR] | they killed off xul | Sep 19 21:24 |
| MinceR | it is a testament to how stupid humans tend to be that many humans are still struggling with the concept of separating a human intentionally performing an act from a tool used to perform that act | Sep 19 21:24 |
| techuser | I'm depressed because tech is worsening and idk what else to do | Sep 19 21:24 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and decided moz knows best | Sep 19 21:24 |
| DaemonFC | SeaMonkey doesn't want to support DRM anyway. | Sep 19 21:25 |
| MinceR | and this is the species that advertises itself as "intelligent" | Sep 19 21:25 |
| schestowitz[TR] | pocket, tracking, google by default.. | Sep 19 21:25 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz[TR]: SeaMonkey may survive the death of Mozilla if there's enough people in the community interested in it. | Sep 19 21:25 |
| schestowitz[TR] | techuser: dep[ends on tech is used or what tech | Sep 19 21:25 |
| MinceR | and as being Earth life's best chance of salvation against natural disasters | Sep 19 21:25 |
| *MinceR sneers | Sep 19 21:25 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | don';t use smart [sic] phones | Sep 19 21:25 |
| DaemonFC | I don't think many people will be interested in picking up Firefox and running with it. | Sep 19 21:25 |
| mib_7i0wf4 | so if someone kills someone you dont make killing illegal? | Sep 19 21:25 |
| schestowitz[TR] | or social control media | Sep 19 21:25 |
| techuser | non-spying search engines turned out to be nonexistent anyway | Sep 19 21:25 |
| techuser | DuckDuckGo failed. Did it meant to succeed initially? | Sep 19 21:25 |
| DaemonFC | Maybe picking the carcass and transplanting what makes sense to into the Suite. | Sep 19 21:25 |
| mib_7i0wf4 | what about duckduckgo | Sep 19 21:25 |
| mixling | techuser: you could try simple chess computers from the 1990s, and there's books to learn playing chess | Sep 19 21:25 |
| schestowitz[TR] | DaemonFC: but gulag will still extend the web | Sep 19 21:26 |
| schestowitz[TR] | so it'll be a battle to keep users | Sep 19 21:26 |
| MinceR | i'd rather punish murder than pretend all killing is bad | Sep 19 21:26 |
| schestowitz[TR] | people who need access to gov. sites, not just private sites like banks | Sep 19 21:26 |
| schestowitz[TR] | mib_7i0wf4: duckduckgo is miceosoft | Sep 19 21:26 |
| mib_7i0wf4 | you cant just make it illegal without arresting the person | Sep 19 21:26 |
| MinceR | curious | Sep 19 21:26 |
| schestowitz[TR] | http://techrights.org/wiki/DuckDuckGo | Sep 19 21:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | DuckDuckGo - Techrights | Sep 19 21:26 | |
| MinceR | what planet are you from, where making laws works like that? | Sep 19 21:27 |
| mib_7i0wf4 | what | Sep 19 21:27 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | then then during the third reconciliation of the last of the meketrex supplicants, mozilla chose a new form, that of a giant sloar! many shubs and zulls knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of a sloar that day, i can tell you... | Sep 19 21:27 |
| schestowitz[TR] | https://medium.com/codex/btw-you-should-use-arch-74f542c02f90 | Sep 19 21:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-BTW, You Should Use Arch. And why you should consider using Linux… | by Jonas Itt | CodeX | Aug, 2022 | Medium | Sep 19 21:27 | |
| mib_7i0wf4 | nevermind | Sep 19 21:27 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz[TR]DaemonFC: but gulag will still extend the web | Sep 19 21:27 |
| schestowitz[TR] | btw | Sep 19 21:27 |
| schestowitz[TR] | today: | Sep 19 21:27 |
| mib_7i0wf4 | its just different when you are talking about guns and "free speech" | Sep 19 21:28 |
| schestowitz[TR] | [gets link] | Sep 19 21:28 |
| DaemonFC | Well, I mean, theoretically, you could make the Suite code run on Webkit with enough work. | Sep 19 21:28 |
| DaemonFC | That would be.....odd. | Sep 19 21:28 |
| schestowitz[TR] | <techrights-news> A prelude to Web censorship by Google: "The Chrome Root Program ultimately determines which website certificates are trusted by default in Chrome, and enables more consistent and reliable website certificate validation across platforms." https://blog.chromium.org/2022/09/announcing-launch-of-chrome-root-program.html Google: IMPERIALISM PRIVATISED | Sep 19 21:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.chromium.org | Chromium Blog: Announcing the Launch of the Chrome Root Program | Sep 19 21:28 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | posted hours ago | Sep 19 21:28 |
| schestowitz[TR] | by gulagblog | Sep 19 21:28 |
| schestowitz[TR] | gulag becomes "king of www" | Sep 19 21:28 |
| schestowitz[TR] | they decide which sites you can and cannot enter | Sep 19 21:28 |
| schestowitz[TR] | in addition to isps, dns, clownflare.. | Sep 19 21:28 |
| mib_7i0wf4 | well thats good so that people dont go to bad websites | Sep 19 21:28 |
| schestowitz[TR] | the web is closing | Sep 19 21:29 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and PCs become more restricted too | Sep 19 21:29 |
| DaemonFC | I think that would be pretty cool, honestly, if someone was to do that. Port the UX of SeaMonkey and get it up and running with WebkitGTK and the Webkit2 API. | Sep 19 21:29 |
| schestowitz[TR] | we need to help people escape both | Sep 19 21:29 |
| mib_7i0wf4 | what | Sep 19 21:29 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | no, because they do not care | Sep 19 21:29 |
| schestowitz[TR] | mib_7i0wf4: in saudi arabia bad web sites speak of women voting | Sep 19 21:29 |
| mib_7i0wf4 | just dont use the internet if you odnt like it | Sep 19 21:29 |
| schestowitz[TR] | or... ANYONE voting :-) | Sep 19 21:29 |
| schestowitz[TR] | (they doin't have elections) | Sep 19 21:29 |
| mib_7i0wf4 | well we are not in saudi arabia | Sep 19 21:29 |
| schestowitz[TR] | some are | Sep 19 21:30 |
| mib_7i0wf4 | oh sorry to hear that | Sep 19 21:30 |
| DaemonFC | But obviously it would require a huge internal rewrite to port over XUL to run somewhere because the Suite runs on it, internally, and the add-ons would all be broken and turn into WebExtensions. | Sep 19 21:30 |
| mib_7i0wf4 | they should just leave then | Sep 19 21:30 |
| DaemonFC | So that would suck. | Sep 19 21:30 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and if we start labelng sites "bad" and block then, it's a slippery slope | Sep 19 21:30 |
| DaemonFC | A lot more than running on Goanna. | Sep 19 21:30 |
| schestowitz[TR] | gulag does this by technical means | Sep 19 21:30 |
| schestowitz[TR] | not legal means | Sep 19 21:30 |
| schestowitz[TR] | not moral meanms | Sep 19 21:30 |
| schestowitz[TR] | "this site is NOT MORAL." [GET ME OUT OF HERE] (button pressed) | Sep 19 21:30 |
| mib_7i0wf4 | its not hard to know whats bad | Sep 19 21:30 |
| schestowitz[TR] | it is | Sep 19 21:30 |
| mib_7i0wf4 | everyone can feel whats good and whats bad its not that hard | Sep 19 21:30 |
| schestowitz[TR] | not everyone thinks like you | Sep 19 21:31 |
| schestowitz[TR] | no | Sep 19 21:31 |
| schestowitz[TR] | like I said, cultures on this planet are diverse | Sep 19 21:31 |
| mib_7i0wf4 | well its a democracy | Sep 19 21:31 |
| schestowitz[TR] | some places still headhunt | Sep 19 21:31 |
| schestowitz[TR] | some eat dogs | Sep 19 21:31 |
| schestowitz[TR] | some kill women for adultery | Sep 19 21:31 |
| mib_7i0wf4 | oh yeah china | Sep 19 21:31 |
| schestowitz[TR] | some cults glorify suicide | Sep 19 21:31 |
| mib_7i0wf4 | heh yeah | Sep 19 21:31 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz[TR]some eat dogs | Sep 19 21:32 |
| DaemonFC | Like MARISOL. | Sep 19 21:32 |
| mib_7i0wf4 | is that in venezuela? | Sep 19 21:32 |
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| DaemonFC | After dad kills it in the backyard, incompetently, and it whimpers until he hits it again a few times with the baseball bat. | Sep 19 21:32 |
| DaemonFC | Right in front of the children. | Sep 19 21:32 |
| schestowitz[TR] | in some parts of india you can get murdered for eating beef | Sep 19 21:32 |
| schestowitz[TR] | because cows are holy | Sep 19 21:32 |
| schestowitz[TR] | or more so if you SELL it | Sep 19 21:32 |
| DaemonFC | mjg59_ doesn't really want to understand me. | Sep 19 21:32 |
| mib_7i0wf4 | all those kind of countries eat dogs just because they are poor like china,venezuela,north korea,cuba | Sep 19 21:33 |
| DaemonFC | I don't want Mandy to ever have to go back there. It's the source of pretty much all of the serious trauma in his life. | Sep 19 21:33 |
| schestowitz[TR] | if you knew someone next to you sold dogs as meat, you might expect someone to come with a gun and wipe out that person | Sep 19 21:33 |
| DaemonFC | Nothing good ever happened to him there. | Sep 19 21:33 |
| mib_7i0wf4 | well you can just call the police | Sep 19 21:33 |
| DaemonFC | But mjg59_ shakes hands with criminals and rapists who have ICE contracts. | Sep 19 21:33 |
| mib_7i0wf4 | what? | Sep 19 21:34 |
| DaemonFC | Lots of ICE officers are Nazis because it's who is attracted to that sort of work. | Sep 19 21:34 |
| mjg59_ | (I don't) | Sep 19 21:34 |
| DaemonFC | And they don't treat people like human beings. | Sep 19 21:34 |
| schestowitz[TR] | the police is its own jar of worms | Sep 19 21:34 |
| mixling | just curious, what is DaemonFC occupied with in Free/OpenSource software realm? | Sep 19 21:34 |
| schestowitz[TR] | it's just another gang that might confront the gang you report to it | Sep 19 21:34 |
| mib_7i0wf4 | i dont think the government is nazis anymore | Sep 19 21:34 |
| DaemonFC | mjg59_: You worked directly for these people for years. | Sep 19 21:34 |
| DaemonFC | Your paychecks said GOOGLE. | Sep 19 21:34 |
| mib_7i0wf4 | they raided trump if you want proof, so why would they do it to themselves | Sep 19 21:34 |
| DaemonFC | And you still use Microsoft Github. | Sep 19 21:34 |
| DaemonFC | So if you had a big problem with it, you wouldn't have done that. | Sep 19 21:34 |
| techuser | on suicide/murder topic also: what about euthanasia? | Sep 19 21:35 |
| mib_7i0wf4 | he got hacked? | Sep 19 21:35 |
| DaemonFC | If a project uses GitHub, I don't communicate with them. I refuse to create an account there and use it on any level. | Sep 19 21:35 |
| schestowitz[TR] | techuser: legit and hard question | Sep 19 21:35 |
| mib_7i0wf4 | well euthanasia is someones right | Sep 19 21:35 |
| DaemonFC | The only reason why I have any dealings with the WebkitGTK people anymore is that they're still reachable over email and IRC. | Sep 19 21:35 |
| mib_7i0wf4 | lol who uses email | Sep 19 21:36 |
| schestowitz[TR] | wait till 'linux' foundation adopts that too | Sep 19 21:36 |
| schestowitz[TR] | LF is GitHub outsourcer | Sep 19 21:36 |
| DaemonFC | If Apple is going to do issue tracking on Microsoft Github, then someone who has to use it anyway may as well report bugs for me. | Sep 19 21:36 |
| schestowitz[TR] | sponored by gtihub | Sep 19 21:36 |
| schestowitz[TR] | AND microsoft | Sep 19 21:36 |
| DaemonFC | But they've essentially lost a lot of valuable contributions from me because of the switchover. | Sep 19 21:36 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | github servancy con | Sep 19 21:36 |
| mib_7i0wf4 | why do people use linux | Sep 19 21:37 |
| mib_7i0wf4 | it just makes your computer stop working | Sep 19 21:37 |
| schestowitz[TR] | btw, how is the LF doing with mozill's pass-over? | Sep 19 21:37 |
| schestowitz[TR] | not a word really | Sep 19 21:37 |
| DaemonFC | Because I've done a lot of testing of Webkit to figure out where bugs are and backtrace them and report on this. | Sep 19 21:37 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | i think passover is a word | Sep 19 21:37 |
| schestowitz[TR] | apache software fdn is whwer projects came to die | Sep 19 21:37 |
| schestowitz[TR] | now it's LF | Sep 19 21:37 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | its been a word for quite some time | Sep 19 21:37 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | the word eyeball has been a word ever since shakespeare coined it | Sep 19 21:37 |
| schestowitz[TR] | https://www.linuxfoundation.org/press-release/open-source-web-engine-servo-to-be-hosted-at-linux-foundation/ | Sep 19 21:37 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | he just made it up | Sep 19 21:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxfoundation.org | Open Source Web Engine Servo to be Hosted at Linux Foundation - Linux Foundation | Sep 19 21:38 | |
| DaemonFC | And that's not always something they could do with automated tools because sometimes you point the stupid thing at actual Web content someone wrote as a garbled mess and that's better than a fuzz tester. | Sep 19 21:38 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | now its a word | Sep 19 21:38 |
| schestowitz[TR] | https://www.linuxfoundation.org/press-release/open-source-web-engine-servo-to-be-hosted-at-linux-foundation/ | Sep 19 21:38 |
| schestowitz[TR] | https://servo.org/ | Sep 19 21:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-servo.org | Servo | Sep 19 21:38 | |
| DaemonFC | More often, banks and Microsoft Web sites will make the engine crash before fuzz testing reveals anything. | Sep 19 21:38 |
| schestowitz[TR] | "GitHub" | Sep 19 21:38 |
| schestowitz[TR] | in a big button at the top" | Sep 19 21:38 |
| DaemonFC | Because it's all spaghetti code. | Sep 19 21:38 |
| schestowitz[TR] | former: mozilla | Sep 19 21:38 |
| schestowitz[TR] | now: Jim Zemlin's and Sheela Microsoft's GitHub Foundation | Sep 19 21:38 |
| schestowitz[TR] | https://blog.servo.org/ | Sep 19 21:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.servo.org | Servo Blog | Sep 19 21:38 | |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft 365's backend is so ugly that it relies on about 6 different servers running different operating systems and stuff to pull up a WebMail interface. | Sep 19 21:39 |
| schestowitz[TR] | https://blog.servo.org/2020/11/17/servo-home/ | Sep 19 21:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.servo.org | Servo’s new home | Sep 19 21:39 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | lol | Sep 19 21:39 |
| schestowitz[TR] | last blog post, 2 YEARS ASGIO | Sep 19 21:39 |
| schestowitz[TR] | it's dead, Jim | Sep 19 21:39 |
| schestowitz[TR] | (not zemlin) | Sep 19 21:39 |
| schestowitz[TR] | her husband, Sheela | Sep 19 21:39 |
| DaemonFC | And it feeds in JavaScript that is seriously malformed. | Sep 19 21:39 |
| schestowitz[TR] | http://techrights.org/2022/05/14/microsoft-breadwinner/ | Sep 19 21:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Who Brings Home the Bacon (Revenue), Sheela or James (Jim)? | Techrights | Sep 19 21:39 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | so servo is dea | Sep 19 21:39 |
| schestowitz[TR] | dead | Sep 19 21:39 |
| schestowitz[TR] | well, it's dead | Sep 19 21:39 |
| schestowitz[TR] | next: webkit | Sep 19 21:39 |
| DaemonFC | Why do they care? Chromium runs it. Call it a day. Go strangle and rape someone, Alex. | Sep 19 21:39 |
| schestowitz[TR] | when it's passed over to Jim Zemlin's and Sheela Microsoft's GitHub Foundation | Sep 19 21:40 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | github webkit | Sep 19 21:40 |
| DaemonFC | Thanks for attacking Ryan and not us, mjg59_ | Sep 19 21:40 |
| DaemonFC | Here's another paycheck. | Sep 19 21:40 |
| schestowitz[TR] | highest_cubist_thrills: yes, I am aware | Sep 19 21:40 |
| schestowitz[TR] | maybe bill said, "well, his dad" | Sep 19 21:41 |
| schestowitz[TR] | what did Jeffrey's father do? | Sep 19 21:41 |
| mib_7i0wf4 | are you glorifying rape? | Sep 19 21:41 |
| DaemonFC | I don't touch Chrome. The closes I get to Chrome is like maybe opening GNOME Web and paying my light bill and closing GNOME Web. | Sep 19 21:41 |
| schestowitz[TR] | """""""you've been a vewwwwy naughty boy" | Sep 19 21:41 |
| schestowitz[TR] | <mib_7i0wf4> are you glorifying rape? | Sep 19 21:41 |
| schestowitz[TR] | no, missing reference | Sep 19 21:42 |
| schestowitz[TR] | background | Sep 19 21:42 |
| DaemonFC | Like 99.9% of the Web still runs well enough in SeaMonkey that you just need to open some unpleasant GAFAM-ish browser to pay a light bill or your credit cards, and then close it again. | Sep 19 21:42 |
| schestowitz[TR] | microsoft has a manager | Sep 19 21:42 |
| schestowitz[TR] | or HAD a manager | Sep 19 21:42 |
| schestowitz[TR] | for github copilot | Sep 19 21:42 |
| schestowitz[TR] | he was a serial strangler of women | Sep 19 21:42 |
| schestowitz[TR] | but mjg59_ refuses to mention it | Sep 19 21:42 |
| schestowitz[TR] | he does not care about women | Sep 19 21:42 |
| schestowitz[TR] | mjg59_: btw, Graveley also strangled trans women | Sep 19 21:42 |
| schestowitz[TR] | just so you know | Sep 19 21:42 |
| DaemonFC | Remember when the Web was so small that Mozilla Suite ran fine on a computer with at least 64 MB of RAM? | Sep 19 21:42 |
| schestowitz[TR] | but you don't give a shit | Sep 19 21:42 |
| psydroid2 | Manager of Strangling Operations | Sep 19 21:43 |
| schestowitz[TR] | he is of your circle | Sep 19 21:43 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | while mjg figures prominently enough | Sep 19 21:43 |
| DaemonFC | And Microsoft paid ZDNet to say that was software bloat? | Sep 19 21:43 |
| schestowitz[TR] | trans asian women | Sep 19 21:43 |
| schestowitz[TR] | strangled | Sep 19 21:43 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | youre too quick to forget the other traitors | Sep 19 21:43 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and mjg59_ doesn't give a shit | Sep 19 21:43 |
| DaemonFC | Now Microsoft Edge takes like 8 or 9 GB to have your tabs open. | Sep 19 21:43 |
| schestowitz[TR] | but obsesses over DaemonFC | Sep 19 21:43 |
| DaemonFC | That's not bloat, even though some Windows "11" computers only have 4 GB of RAM in them. | Sep 19 21:43 |
| schestowitz[TR] | http://techrights.org/2021/12/08/balabhadra-alex-graveley-arrest-warrant-and-affidavit/ | Sep 19 21:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Teaser] Meet Microsoft’s Chief Architect of GitHub Copilot, Balabhadra (Alex) Graveley (Updated) | Techrights | Sep 19 21:43 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | http://techrights.org/2022/08/11/microsoft-stranglers/ | Sep 19 21:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft GitHub Exposé — Part XXV — Microsoft Employs Serial Strangler as a Manager, Running GitHub Copilot in Spite of Arrest for Assault on Women | Techrights | Sep 19 21:44 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | http://techrights.org/2022/08/13/github-vs-women-and-gpl/ | Sep 19 21:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Official Copy Detailing Crimes of Microsoft’s Serial Strangler, Who is Trying to Strangle GPL Enforcement/Compliance With GPL-Violating Copilot | Techrights | Sep 19 21:44 | |
| highest_cubist_thrills | have fun with mjg but there are several more like him | Sep 19 21:44 |
| schestowitz[TR] | http://techrights.org/2022/08/18/trial-of-alex-graveley/ | Sep 19 21:44 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | some might even be worse | Sep 19 21:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Trial of Microsoft’s Serial Strangler, Who Also Manages GitHub’s Copilot | Techrights | Sep 19 21:44 | |
| DaemonFC | Not liking JavaShit "apps" that are there to record your keystrokes and mouse movement and passwords and store it on servers unknown makes you a transphobe. | Sep 19 21:44 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | dont overstress that line | Sep 19 21:44 |
| DaemonFC | JavaShit is "security". War is peace. Freedom is slavery. - mjg59_ | Sep 19 21:44 |
| schestowitz[TR] | http://techrights.org/2022/07/14/buried-or-spiked-alex-graveley-story/ | Sep 19 21:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Person Behind Microsoft’s GitHub/Copilot Does Not Want You to Know About $25,000 for Suffocating Asian Woman (Almost to Death), Repeatedly in Fact, and There Are Prior Victims Too | Techrights | Sep 19 21:45 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | "tiny asian women" -Graveley http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/alex-gravelet-page3.jpg | Sep 19 21:45 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | /me thinks mjg downplays kuhns role (but perhaps not) | Sep 19 21:45 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | (but probably, yeah) | Sep 19 21:45 |
| DaemonFC | Even if the purpose of those "apps" was benign, like your bank trying to profile its Web site and find bugs in it, the fact that it's third party makes it dangerous. And it uses your system resources to operate, which makes it a parasitic script. | Sep 19 21:46 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | and its not just kuhn either | Sep 19 21:46 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | hes just fun to mention because hes trying to take over the movement he killed | Sep 19 21:46 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | and rebuild it in his own image | Sep 19 21:46 |
| schestowitz[TR] | revenue down | Sep 19 21:46 |
| schestowitz[TR] | a lot | Sep 19 21:46 |
| DaemonFC | They're not recording your session on their server and saving it on their own storage. | Sep 19 21:46 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | fsf: free software started in the 1980s | Sep 19 21:46 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | osi: in 1998 | Sep 19 21:46 |
| DaemonFC | If they were doing that, it would be no worse than the information they already have anyway. | Sep 19 21:46 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | sfc: whenever we founded this piece of shit | Sep 19 21:46 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | sflc: wait a goddamned minute | Sep 19 21:47 |
| schestowitz[TR] | http://techrights.org/2022/09/14/sfc-income/ | Sep 19 21:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Software Freedom Conservancy’s (SFC) Income Fell 63% After Working to Oust the Founder of the Free Software Foundation (FSF), Richard Stallman | Techrights | Sep 19 21:47 | |
| highest_cubist_thrills | mjg: what? how dare you! my mother was a saint! | Sep 19 21:47 |
| schestowitz[TR] | lf: we started in 2000 | Sep 19 21:47 |
| schestowitz[TR] | when zemlin was unemployed a | Sep 19 21:47 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | ish | Sep 19 21:47 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | lf started in 2000 when it wasnt lf | Sep 19 21:48 |
| schestowitz[TR] | abut the name linux foundaiton started in 2007 | Sep 19 21:48 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | it started in both 2000 and 2007 | Sep 19 21:48 |
| schestowitz[TR] | when jimmy connected Torvalds to chose him over Stuart Cohen | Sep 19 21:48 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | or maybe in the 1950s when all software was open source | Sep 19 21:48 |
| schestowitz[TR] | (another Microsoft boot licker BTW) | Sep 19 21:48 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | idk it means whatever you want it to mean | Sep 19 21:48 |
| schestowitz[TR] | /s/connected/conned/ | Sep 19 21:48 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | (you dont say) | Sep 19 21:48 |
| DaemonFC | SeaMonkey is a lot of things all at once, really. It's based on parts and pieces of Firefox 1.5-2.0. But it's running a fork of Gecko that has basically the capabilities of Firefox 78 ESR and a tad more, grafted on to Gecko 56 to keep some APIs and XUL interfaces that it needs. And it runs in single-process mode. But it's using GTK3, but with the X11 backend. | Sep 19 21:48 |
| DaemonFC | So I need to use it with XWayland, which is fine. | Sep 19 21:48 |
| schestowitz[TR] | in the 1950s was it on cards yet? | Sep 19 21:49 |
| schestowitz[TR] | like the ibm machines? | Sep 19 21:49 |
| DaemonFC | It's getting complex to the point of a small group of people who even understand it all anymore. | Sep 19 21:49 |
| DaemonFC | And they're getting older. | Sep 19 21:49 |
| schestowitz[TR] | 1940s: mechanical machins, not computers | Sep 19 21:49 |
| DaemonFC | And if someone doesn't step in and maintain this eventually, years down the road, it may very well die. | Sep 19 21:49 |
| schestowitz[TR] | ibm allready talks of gtk5 | Sep 19 21:50 |
| schestowitz[TR] | qt6 is proprietary. too | Sep 19 21:50 |
| DaemonFC | But most of the SeaMonkey developers agree with me that Firefox, especially the UX and spyware, is a raging dumpster fire. | Sep 19 21:50 |
| schestowitz[TR] | complexity as vendor lockin is an issue more people graspm now | Sep 19 21:50 |
| DaemonFC | And Mozilla harasses them by throwing them out of their infrastructure and forcing them to spin off into a separate legal entity. | Sep 19 21:50 |
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| DaemonFC | At first, the Suite was still officially Mozilla software. | Sep 19 21:51 |
| DaemonFC | But that's not true anymore. | Sep 19 21:51 |
| schestowitz[TR] | mozills runs out of money | Sep 19 21:51 |
| schestowitz[TR] | it passes its money intoa private bank account | Sep 19 21:51 |
| schestowitz[TR] | over 15 million in baker's cocount | Sep 19 21:51 |
| schestowitz[TR] | she's too old to even spend that kind of money | Sep 19 21:51 |
| schestowitz[TR] | so she is clinically broken | Sep 19 21:51 |
| DaemonFC | MARISOL | Sep 19 21:51 |
| schestowitz[TR] | in the head | Sep 19 21:51 |
| DaemonFC | MARISOL Baker | Sep 19 21:51 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | 1940s: mechanical machins, not computers <- thats a completely stupid thing to say | Sep 19 21:52 |
| mixling | dumping shitcoins isn't a challenge | Sep 19 21:52 |
| mixling | i had some ideas | Sep 19 21:52 |
| mixling | a working netsurf-motif port | Sep 19 21:52 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | they were absolutely computers | Sep 19 21:52 |
| schestowitz[TR] | highest_cubist_thrills: no cpi | Sep 19 21:52 |
| schestowitz[TR] | *cpu | Sep 19 21:52 |
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| schestowitz[TR] | and not programmable | Sep 19 21:52 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | so they werent von neumann architecture | Sep 19 21:52 |
| schestowitz[TR] | starstreak btw | Sep 19 21:52 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | how many decades will you be a tech blogger and ignore the basics | Sep 19 21:52 |
| DaemonFC | MARISOL lost at least $25,000 that she had speculatively invested in Bitcoins. | Sep 19 21:53 |
| DaemonFC | Possibly more. | Sep 19 21:53 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | and not programmable <- computers do not have to be programmable | Sep 19 21:53 |
| schestowitz[TR] | "invested" | Sep 19 21:53 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know whether she's panicked and sold them at a loss to get out. | Sep 19 21:53 |
| starstreak | schestowitz[TR], :D | Sep 19 21:53 |
| schestowitz[TR] | that is often newspeak for gambling these days | Sep 19 21:53 |
| MinceR | btw btw | Sep 19 21:53 |
| DaemonFC | Or if she's HODLING on some crack pipe dream that it will be "worth" upwards of $50,000 again. | Sep 19 21:53 |
| DaemonFC | I know Mark probably isn't happy. | Sep 19 21:54 |
| schestowitz[TR] | too bad | Sep 19 21:54 |
| DaemonFC | They were already on the verge of collapse and now she'd only get half of the childrens' college money that she put in there. | Sep 19 21:54 |
| schestowitz[TR] | he does not wear the trousers | Sep 19 21:54 |
| DaemonFC | Her kids already hate her and call her "bitch" and get smacked all over the house for it. | Sep 19 21:54 |
| schestowitz[TR] | he does not hold the dishes either | Sep 19 21:54 |
| schestowitz[TR] | he "receives" them | Sep 19 21:54 |
| DaemonFC | Lovely family situation. | Sep 19 21:54 |
| schestowitz[TR] | airborne | Sep 19 21:54 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz[TR]: I know how old her kids are. I'm waiting to turn her over to the IRS until they're aged out of the house. | Sep 19 21:55 |
| DaemonFC | She has about a year left before I go spill like the Exxon-Valdez. | Sep 19 21:56 |
| starstreak | highest_cubist_thrills, ronnie stahp ur tramatizing meh | Sep 19 21:56 |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/22081623 | Sep 19 21:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/bjtmjzrj1th91.jpg created on 2022-08-16 07:47:07.804885 | Sep 19 21:57 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz[TR]: They already suffer enough I suppose. | Sep 19 21:57 |
| DaemonFC | Their mom went and gambled away their "college fund". | Sep 19 21:57 |
| DaemonFC | So if they want to make anything of themselves they face the choice most people do. | Sep 19 21:57 |
| DaemonFC | Take on horrible debt and play the odds. | Sep 19 21:57 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | /me wish he got the reference | Sep 19 21:57 |
| DaemonFC | What an idiot. | Sep 19 21:58 |
| starstreak | highest_cubist_thrills, https://i.imgur.com/ol5hsdb.jpg | Sep 19 21:58 |
| starstreak | highest_cubist_thrills, jersey shore lol | Sep 19 21:58 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz[TR]: If she had invested the money in US Savings Bonds and taken it out to be spent on college, then not only would she have at least had the interest, but it would have been totally exempt from income tax. | Sep 19 21:58 |
| MinceR | who watches jersey shore though | Sep 19 21:59 |
| starstreak | i do | Sep 19 21:59 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | ohhh | Sep 19 21:59 |
| MinceR | or reality shows in general | Sep 19 21:59 |
| DaemonFC | Setting up such a plan for your children is fiscally responsible. Putting it in Bitcoins isn't. | Sep 19 21:59 |
| DaemonFC | She probably told herself she'd get it all back, send them to college and go fill up the garage with more shoes she doesn't even wear. | Sep 19 21:59 |
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| starstreak | its my guilty pleasure | Sep 19 22:00 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | mmmmmmm | Sep 19 22:01 |
| DaemonFC | FedEx says my print order is ready. I'll pick it up tomorrow and get cracking on organizing, stapling, etc. | Sep 19 22:01 |
| DaemonFC | I figure I can get 90% of the major boring shit out of the way before this month is over. | Sep 19 22:01 |
| DaemonFC | Then I can just send in a smaller order next month. | Sep 19 22:01 |
| XRevan86 | https://gajim.org/post/2022-09-19-gajim-1.5.0-released/ | Sep 19 22:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gajim.org | Gajim 1.5.0 - Gajim | Sep 19 22:04 | |
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| highest_cubist_thrills | starstreak: finished the book btw | Sep 19 22:06 |
| starstreak | highest_cubist_thrills, that was fast :D | Sep 19 22:06 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | i was intrigued | Sep 19 22:06 |
| starstreak | do you have a magick name now? | Sep 19 22:06 |
| techrights-news | Manhattan: Overheard Conversation gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~stack/gemlog/2022-09-19.Manhattan.gmi | Sep 19 22:07 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | no i only read it | Sep 19 22:07 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | yes i know... | Sep 19 22:07 |
| techrights-news | "I prayed for good star-gazing weather yesterday morning, and was blessed with a great opportunity last night, with skies clearing up for most part around 9pm." gemini://gem.librehacker.com/gemlog/starlog/20220918-0.gmi | Sep 19 22:07 |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Crystal Linux is a user-friendly take on Arch Linux that shows great promise ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/19/Crystal_Linux_is_a_user_friendly_take_on_Arch_Linux_that_shows_.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/19/Crystal_Linux_is_a_user_friendly_take_on_Arch_Linux_that_shows_.gmi ∎ | Sep 19 22:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Crystal Linux is a user-friendly take on Arch Linux that shows great promise | Sep 19 22:08 | |
| highest_cubist_thrills | im not the author, i dont do things without deliberating | Sep 19 22:08 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | he prefers to ride the wave | Sep 19 22:08 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | i prefer to look at the ocean and decide what to do next | Sep 19 22:08 |
| starstreak | fair enough | Sep 19 22:08 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | im most aligned to some jewish tradition anyway | Sep 19 22:08 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | thats not set in stone | Sep 19 22:08 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | but it is a default for me | Sep 19 22:09 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | /me never converted | Sep 19 22:09 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | im not religious | Sep 19 22:09 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | certainly not in any formal sense | Sep 19 22:09 |
| MinceR | http://www.cogniview.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/How-Do-I-New1.jpg | Sep 19 22:09 |
| starstreak | highest_cubist_thrills, https://youtu.be/X9_n8jakvWU | Sep 19 22:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://y.com.sb/watch?v=X9_n8jakvWU | Sep 19 22:09 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> y.com.sb | Enrique Iglesias - I Like It (Official Music Video) - Invidious | Sep 19 22:10 | |
| DaemonFC | I created a big bug to track removal of some hilariously outdated UX stuff from SeaMonkey regarding Flash, Java, Plug-Ins, AOL Instant Messenger, etc. | Sep 19 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | Lots of it got cleaned up in 2.53.12 but a few more things are coming out in 2.53.14. | Sep 19 22:10 |
| MinceR | i prefer Gabriel to Enrique | Sep 19 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | This is pretty much code rot and clutter. | Sep 19 22:11 |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Gajim 1.5.0 ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/19/Gajim_1_5_0.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/19/Gajim_1_5_0.gmi ∎ | Sep 19 22:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Gajim 1.5.0 | Sep 19 22:11 | |
| highest_cubist_thrills | no one loves julio anymore | Sep 19 22:11 |
| DaemonFC | Better to remove it than to trip over it and continue putting functionless UI stuff in the user's face. | Sep 19 22:11 |
| schestowitz[TR] | XRevan86: cheers | Sep 19 22:11 |
| DaemonFC | Switching to Goanna would be interesting, because that would actually bring back NPAPI support. | Sep 19 22:11 |
| DaemonFC | They never deleted it. | Sep 19 22:12 |
| DaemonFC | So there's at least three versions of Gecko now. The one in Firefox and Thunderbird, the fork in SeaMonkey, and the fork in Pale Moon. | Sep 19 22:12 |
| DaemonFC | "MoonChild" hasn't removed NPAPI even though you can't even really use it anymore. | Sep 19 22:12 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | starstreak: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=tH7Bcr3e3I0 | Sep 19 22:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | I Like It Like That - Invidious | Sep 19 22:13 | |
| DaemonFC | It's an anachronism. Adobe disabled Flash using a remote backdoor. | Sep 19 22:13 |
| DaemonFC | The only version getting updates that hasn't been remote bricked, I think, is distributed by a Chinese company under a license agreement. | Sep 19 22:13 |
| techrights-news | Alan Shimel, Microsoft and proprietary software shill, keeps openwashing by pushing proprietary crap. Link omitted. It's like a spamnil groupie. Both facilitated by Jim Zemlin and Sheela Microsoft, the frauds. http://techrights.org/2019/09/09/attacking-foss-by-proxy/ | Sep 19 22:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Security Boulevard is a Microsoft-Connected Attack Site Created by a Free Software-Hostile Person | Techrights | Sep 19 22:13 | |
| DaemonFC | Modern Java doesn't have a browser plug-in, so you'd have to use something that has a lot of security holes to use Java through NPAPI/LiveConnect. | Sep 19 22:14 |
| techrights-news | Bribing fools to install listening devices which corrode human rights of EVERYBODY in the home, inc. guests https://www.maketecheasier.com/deal/echo-dot-and-amazon-music-unlimited/ | Sep 19 22:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | Get an Echo Dot and 1 Month of Amazon Music Unlimited for Under $10 - Make Tech Easier | Sep 19 22:15 | |
| DaemonFC | Browsers don't need plug-ins from media players, and I think the media players have deleted them anyway. | Sep 19 22:15 |
| techrights-news | This DIY strain wave gearbox is strong enough to pull a car | Arduino Blog ⚓ https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/09/19/this-diy-strain-wave-gearbox-is-strong-enough-to-pull-a-car/ ䷉ Source: Arduino | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.arduino.cc/2022/09/19/this-diy-strain-wave-gearbox-is-strong-enough-to-pull-a-car/ | Sep 19 22:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | This DIY strain wave gearbox is strong enough to pull a car | Arduino Blog | Sep 19 22:16 | |
| starstreak | highest_cubist_thrills, nice | Sep 19 22:17 |
| techrights-news | maketecheasier: we take bribe for FAKE 'ARTICLES'. "This is a sponsored article and was made possible by AVC." So they take bribes from the subject of the 'article'. https://www.maketecheasier.com/avclabs-video-enhancer-ai-review/ | Sep 19 22:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | AVCLabs Video Enhancer AI review - Make Tech Easier | Sep 19 22:18 | |
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| techrights-news | WWW in 2022: hate and spam with a little signal thrown in (if you know how to sensibly filter out the crap). It was NOT LIKE THIS 20 YEARS AGO. | Sep 19 22:18 |
| mixling | argh... lua doesn't compile/link with slibtool, not yet | Sep 19 22:19 |
| techrights-news | Types, Objects, and Systems, Oh my! | AWNCORP [blogs.perl.org] ⚓ http://blogs.perl.org/users/al_newkirk/2022/09/types-objects-and-systems-oh-my.html ䷉ Source: Perl | Sep 19 22:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Types, Objects, and Systems, Oh my! | AWNCORP [blogs.perl.org] | Sep 19 22:19 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-18.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-19.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Sep 19 22:20 |
| mixling | it's not as if i couldn't repair such problems, it is, after having pulled 300(!) builds into my overlay already, i am tired of this type of nonsense | Sep 19 22:20 |
| techrights-news | 2022.38 Another Wave - Rakudo Weekly News ⚓ https://rakudoweekly.blog/2022/09/19/2022-38-another-wave/ ䷉ Source: Rakulang | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//rakudoweekly.blog/2022/09/19/2022-38-another-wave/ | Sep 19 22:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rakudoweekly.blog | 2022.38 Another Wave – Rakudo Weekly News | Sep 19 22:21 | |
| mixling | huh, slibtool, why is that? because GNU libtool, it sucks | Sep 19 22:21 |
| mixling | at least it seems, lua doesn't entangle with GNU configure.ac at least, that's an optional one, good. | Sep 19 22:21 |
| techrights-news | "Whether images created by AI count as art, self-hosted audio streaming, a hex editor, playing Steam games from remote machines, QEMU on an iPad, and more." https://latenightlinux.com/late-night-linux-episode-195/ | Sep 19 22:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-latenightlinux.com | Late Night Linux – Episode 195 – Late Night Linux | Sep 19 22:21 | |
| mixling | obviously, some other developers didn't loose their mind completely with lua | Sep 19 22:22 |
| techrights-news | Blog: Kubernetes 1.25: Local Storage Capacity Isolation Reaches GA https://kubernetes.io/blog/2022/09/19/local-storage-capacity-isolation-ga/ "Pods use ephemeral local storage for scratch space, caching, and logs" | Sep 19 22:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kubernetes.io | Kubernetes 1.25: Local Storage Capacity Isolation Reaches GA | Kubernetes | Sep 19 22:22 | |
| mixling | i tell you this, with 600 builds, slibtool (from gentoo) went almost smooth and painless already | Sep 19 22:22 |
| mixling | libtool, it is another GNU thing, no clue what this is good for, instead of writing clean Makefiles | Sep 19 22:23 |
| mixling | seems to be another useless sort of macro expander, to generate snippets for static and dynamic linking | Sep 19 22:24 |
| mixling | lua, it's MIT licensed... RMS department | Sep 19 22:25 |
| techrights-news | Tiling Window Managers Are Just A Waste Of Time - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=b5kaEtv0BtE | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/b5kaEtv0BtE | Sep 19 22:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Tiling Window Managers Are Just A Waste Of Time - Invidious | Sep 19 22:25 | |
| mixling | i read somewhere, MICROS~1 prefers MIT type license | Sep 19 22:25 |
| schestowitz[TR] | true | Sep 19 22:26 |
| mixling | i don't care; all i see again is, the typical hack and slay over GPL (GNU-buildsystem implied) vs. NON-GPL | Sep 19 22:26 |
| schestowitz[TR] | well, not fully | Sep 19 22:26 |
| schestowitz[TR] | microsoft prefers proprietary | Sep 19 22:26 |
| schestowitz[TR] | if the code is freee | Sep 19 22:26 |
| schestowitz[TR] | then it prefers mit | Sep 19 22:26 |
| schestowitz[TR] | then it cane 'steal' it | Sep 19 22:26 |
| schestowitz[TR] | to make proprietary | Sep 19 22:26 |
| mixling | and for this, i do blame both GNU _AND_ MICROS~1 | Sep 19 22:26 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and the mit stuff perishes away | Sep 19 22:27 |
| mixling | GNU buildsystem is awfull | Sep 19 22:27 |
| schestowitz[TR] | gnu is at fault for mit licence?? | Sep 19 22:27 |
| mixling | GNU toolchain, i don't like this one either | Sep 19 22:27 |
| schestowitz[TR] | anyway | Sep 19 22:27 |
| schestowitz[TR] | you have weird standards | Sep 19 22:27 |
| mixling | schestowitz[TR]: for me it is not a licensing issue, i am an "unemployed" (independent) developer only | Sep 19 22:27 |
| schestowitz[TR] | the other day you suggested you reject perl 6 | Sep 19 22:27 |
| schestowitz[TR] | because of just one developer | Sep 19 22:27 |
| schestowitz[TR] | whom you don'\t like | Sep 19 22:27 |
| schestowitz[TR] | bkuhn | Sep 19 22:27 |
| mixling | schestowitz[TR]: no, i reject any later than perl version 5.8 for TECHNICAL reasons | Sep 19 22:28 |
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| mixling | as far as licensing is concerned, all i do is complying with licensing terms | Sep 19 22:28 |
| schestowitz[TR] | oh yeah? | Sep 19 22:28 |
| schestowitz[TR] | show me where you released your versions? | Sep 19 22:28 |
| mixling | and with this, neither MIT nor GPL are a problem for me | Sep 19 22:28 |
| schestowitz[TR] | or where you send your changes/poatches | Sep 19 22:28 |
| schestowitz[TR] | *patches | Sep 19 22:28 |
| schestowitz[TR] | assuming you distribute them | Sep 19 22:28 |
| mixling | schestowitz[TR]: i must not release anything if i do not deliver binaries, and i won't release anything without salary | Sep 19 22:29 |
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| mixling | and with MIT license, i may release even, without sources supplied | Sep 19 22:29 |
| schestowitz[TR] | that's not correct | Sep 19 22:29 |
| schestowitz[TR] | you can releae | Sep 19 22:29 |
| schestowitz[TR] | it's not a must | Sep 19 22:29 |
| schestowitz[TR] | but "mmust not" | Sep 19 22:29 |
| schestowitz[TR] | implies you must NOT | Sep 19 22:29 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | wait kuhn is a raku dev? | Sep 19 22:30 |
| mixling | problem with Perl any later than v5.8 is, they implemented some sort of virtualized memory management, some weird macros, which tcc-toolchain doesn't digest | Sep 19 22:30 |
| schestowitz[TR] | can't be | Sep 19 22:30 |
| mixling | i don't care, i intend to remove Perl entirely now | Sep 19 22:30 |
| schestowitz[TR] | "giveuipgithub" after all | Sep 19 22:30 |
| mixling | hence, Lua, because a script interpreter with regex support is desireable, of cause | Sep 19 22:31 |
| mixling | vis-editor too is using Lua for this | Sep 19 22:31 |
| schestowitz[TR] | of course | Sep 19 22:31 |
| schestowitz[TR] | you keep making this error | Sep 19 22:31 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | jokes aside... | Sep 19 22:31 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and it gives away your name-shifting/nymshifting | Sep 19 22:31 |
| mixling | in the end, it's technical reasons, to avoid GNU | Sep 19 22:31 |
| mixling | not licensing issues, not political issues, technical issues | Sep 19 22:32 |
| mixling | those technical issues slightly intersect with political and licensing ones, due to their strategy to vendor-lock, into GNU | Sep 19 22:32 |
| mixling | with their build-system for example, which is, i don't like it, to remain polite | Sep 19 22:32 |
| schestowitz[TR] | gnu is a chain | Sep 19 22:33 |
| schestowitz[TR] | systemd is a chaioan | Sep 19 22:33 |
| schestowitz[TR] | but the former does not try to lock you in | Sep 19 22:33 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and ios not developerd by a corporation to sell support | Sep 19 22:33 |
| schestowitz[TR] | anyway, gn | Sep 19 22:33 |
| mixling | systemd isn't a problem for me, simply because i can remove it, easily | Sep 19 22:33 |
| mixling | however, try the same with GNU toolchain AND GNU buildsystem, and then see what remains... | Sep 19 22:33 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | gnu doesnt have to lock you in | Sep 19 22:34 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | it has github for that | Sep 19 22:34 |
| mixling | lua isn't an urgent issue, i could use vis-editor without it, however if, and i will do it, remove perl and python entirely | Sep 19 22:34 |
| mixling | i wouldn't want to miss at least one decent scripting language, which lua is a candidate for | Sep 19 22:34 |
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| mixling | is this just bad luck, some GNU buildsystem wreckage is hitting me? | Sep 19 22:35 |
| mixling | probably not | Sep 19 22:35 |
| mixling | and thanks gentoo, they implemented slibtool | Sep 19 22:35 |
| mixling | because, without it... GNU again | Sep 19 22:35 |
| mixling | slibtool too is MIT licensed | Sep 19 22:36 |
| mixling | vis editor is ISC | Sep 19 22:36 |
| mixling | however, i arrived at this, for _technical_ reasons, not licensing or political ones | Sep 19 22:36 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz[TR]: Talking to the guy doing Borealis Navigator (SeaMonkey fork on top of Goanna) about adding Gemini. | Sep 19 22:36 |
| mixling | mjg59_: to keep it brief for you, i consider much of GNU/GPL licensed software bad quality | Sep 19 22:37 |
| mixling | which is ok, if some students want to practice programming | Sep 19 22:37 |
| mixling | that's a freedom issue to, of cause, to have a playground for them | Sep 19 22:37 |
| mixling | too | Sep 19 22:37 |
| mixling | however, it is NOT OK, if the buildsystem and toolchain from GNU leave nothing but giant wreckage behind | Sep 19 22:38 |
| mixling | in particular, if IBM is invested with billions in this | Sep 19 22:38 |
| mixling | to summarize this: python does NOT bootstrap/compile with tcc-toolchain, perl requires a version rollback to v5.8 | Sep 19 22:39 |
| mixling | and with lua, just mentioned another problem | Sep 19 22:40 |
| mixling | and this was yet another two or three weeks of work... for what? | Sep 19 22:40 |
| mixling | and then it becomes political; certainly won't I publish under terms of GPL for NOTHING in return except chaos and clusterfuck made in USA | Sep 19 22:40 |
| mixling | while your affiliates stuff their pockets with millions of shitcoins | Sep 19 22:41 |
| mixling | schestowitz[TR]: the reason "free software", either GPL or MIT vanishes is this, missing STANDARDS compliance | Sep 19 22:48 |
| mixling | i mean, make, that's covered by POSIX | Sep 19 22:48 |
| mixling | on my TODO i got another one, to verify a strictly POSIX compiliant make implemention: | Sep 19 22:49 |
| mixling | https://frippery.org/make/ | Sep 19 22:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-frippery.org | Public domain POSIX make | Sep 19 22:49 | |
| mixling | mjg59_: how much would you, guess, of "free software", invented by his holiness RMS, passes with a POSIX compliant make? | Sep 19 22:49 |
| mixling | mjg59_: and how much time would you or RMS think i should invest into this, without compensation as usual, because it's free as in gratis | Sep 19 22:50 |
| mixling | mjg59_: and how many other developers should suck up this? given the fact this problem multiplies across every developer desktop. | Sep 19 22:51 |
| mixling | i would rather grant you and RMS the biggest anti-trust in history since WW2 | Sep 19 22:51 |
| mjg59_ | I think targeting POSIX tooling is an uninteresting problem | Sep 19 22:51 |
| mixling | i see | Sep 19 22:52 |
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| DaemonFC | All build systems are crap, it's just that the GNU one is particularly interesting. | Sep 19 22:52 |
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| highest_cubist_thrills | I think targeting POSIX tooling is an uninteresting problem <- oh hey, its lennart | Sep 19 22:52 |
| DaemonFC | It's slow, it sends the user down the rabbit hole. | Sep 19 22:52 |
| DaemonFC | It tests for every kind of obsolete system there's ever been and runs tests for I don't know what. | Sep 19 22:53 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | yeah, corporations dont give a fuck about compatibility with what people made to be free of them | Sep 19 22:53 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | theres a fucking surprise | Sep 19 22:53 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | as soon as they take over free software | Sep 19 22:53 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | they have to break it all | Sep 19 22:53 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | because its "uninteresting" | Sep 19 22:53 |
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| highest_cubist_thrills | hell thats even the in handbook for destroying the free software movement | Sep 19 22:54 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | compatibility is for losers | Sep 19 22:54 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | its cool to break shit-- like a rockstar | Sep 19 22:54 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | thats INTERESTING | Sep 19 22:54 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | ibm is edgy | Sep 19 22:54 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | they broke millions of people | Sep 19 22:54 |
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| highest_cubist_thrills | but dfc is more relevant | Sep 19 22:54 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | move fast and gas jews | Sep 19 22:55 |
| DaemonFC | Did I say I wanted to gas the Jews? | Sep 19 22:55 |
| DaemonFC | I don't seem to recall that. | Sep 19 22:55 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | takeover of free software by people who planned, orchestrated and executed genocide of millions: not relevant | Sep 19 22:56 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | dickhead in irc who says regressive bullshit: FASCINATING | Sep 19 22:56 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | if you get your moral compass from a box of weetabix, you might have stupid priorities | Sep 19 22:56 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | or you just might be utterly full of shit | Sep 19 22:57 |
| DaemonFC | Software that has switched to meson builds a lot faster than stuff that still uses autoconf. | Sep 19 22:57 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | mjg: targeting toolchain made for freedom: so uncool | Sep 19 22:58 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | monsanto: targeting genomes that the farmers of the world have organically nudged towards ideal crops over millennia: so uncool | Sep 19 22:58 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | lets target toolchains that corporations use to control people | Sep 19 22:59 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | and call this progressive | Sep 19 22:59 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | and then if someone doesnt like it, we will tell lots of lies about them | Sep 19 22:59 |
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| highest_cubist_thrills | and lead a mob of people who to be perfectly honest | Sep 19 22:59 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | disgust me far more than dfc, even if he is a gay nazi piece of shit hypocrite | Sep 19 22:59 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | probably because no one gives a shit what he thinks | Sep 19 23:00 |
| mixling | DaemonFC: meson and autotools, such, both | Sep 19 23:00 |
| mixling | forget it | Sep 19 23:00 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | while these hypocritcal cunts destroy DECADES of activism | Sep 19 23:00 |
| mixling | suck | Sep 19 23:00 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | just fucking die already. | Sep 19 23:00 |
| mixling | crap | Sep 19 23:00 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | honestly, youre a waste of carbon. | Sep 19 23:01 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | swallow a gun. | Sep 19 23:01 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | eat a fucking bullet | Sep 19 23:01 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | just fucking die. | Sep 19 23:01 |
| mixling | i do agree however, POSIX make isn't the most urgent issue | Sep 19 23:02 |
| mixling | mjg59_: given the fact i consider any later than gcc47 wreckage | Sep 19 23:03 |
| mixling | and GNU toolchain itself, given it relies on GNU buildsystem | Sep 19 23:03 |
| mixling | i mean, RMS MUST have known, as the inventor of POSIX | Sep 19 23:03 |
| mixling | mjg59_: btw. GNU buildsystem autoconf/automake, that's not backwards compatible | Sep 19 23:04 |
| mixling | out of curiosity, i was interested in some older software pulled from the archives | Sep 19 23:04 |
| mixling | "free software" | Sep 19 23:04 |
| DaemonFC | What is the minimum gcc for Linux now? | Sep 19 23:04 |
| DaemonFC | 5? | Sep 19 23:04 |
| mixling | and then, i type autoreconf -if | Sep 19 23:05 |
| mixling | whatever reason it was, i though, lemme try TeTeX | Sep 19 23:05 |
| mixling | sure, that's not interesting either, what an epic mistake to attach this one to GNU buildsystem | Sep 19 23:05 |
| mixling | nowadays, it's gone | Sep 19 23:05 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.theregister.com/2021/09/15/linux_kernel_gcc_5_1/ | Sep 19 23:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Linux kernel minimum compiler raised to GCC 5.1, allowing potential C11 use • The Register | Sep 19 23:06 | |
| DaemonFC | "Gcc-4.9 support has been an annoyance for some time, and with -Werror I had the choice of applying a fairly big patch from Kees Cook to remove a fair number of initializer warnings (still leaving some), or this patch series from Nick that just removes the source of the problem," said Torvalds. | Sep 19 23:06 |
| mixling | instead of one GNU-buildsystem, i have to install several versions of it... i won't | Sep 19 23:06 |
| mixling | mjg59_: i will REMOVE GNU | Sep 19 23:07 |
| mixling | and i won't suck your UEFI crap either | Sep 19 23:07 |
| mixling | sorry i am in bad mood currently | Sep 19 23:07 |
| mixling | guess how much time this had cost? | Sep 19 23:08 |
| mixling | and it's not as if, my time, was worth nothing | Sep 19 23:08 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | if anyone gave a shit what dfc thinks id tell him to die too | Sep 19 23:08 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | but i dont see a mob of 3000 eugenics-loving cunts following HIM | Sep 19 23:08 |
| highest_cubist_thrills | if that day comes-- ill be sure to make good on it | Sep 19 23:08 |
| mixling | furthermore, this insane wreckage, had multiplied across hundreds of thousands of developer desktops | Sep 19 23:08 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.theregister.com/2021/09/13/linux_5_15_rc1/ | Sep 19 23:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Linus Torvalds admits to 'self-inflicted damage' with -Werror as Linux 5.15 rc1 debuts • The Register | Sep 19 23:09 | |
| DaemonFC | The NTFS merge shows that they don't actually care about code quality or whether there's even an actual maintainer they can get ahold of. | Sep 19 23:09 |
| DaemonFC | Maybe mjg59_ will maintain it for them since anyone that doesn't like NTFS is a transphobe and rape apologist. | Sep 19 23:09 |
| DaemonFC | GitHub Alex apologized to the court for rape and strangulation and they gave him a diversion program. | Sep 19 23:11 |
| DaemonFC | That's not White Privilege though, because he's a Microsoft person. | Sep 19 23:11 |
| mixling | next time RMS walks on stage, he may announce: "We got something for you, a free vendor-lock against us, to work for zero income and legal threats in return" | Sep 19 23:11 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know why the court accepts an apology. He didn't rape and strangle the judge. | Sep 19 23:12 |
| DaemonFC | Strange concept of "justice" in this country. | Sep 19 23:12 |
| mixling | i mean, i am not obsessed with RMS, replace this with any other one of the cartell mobsters. | Sep 19 23:13 |
| mixling | it's not specific to him | Sep 19 23:13 |
| mixling | it's just, guys like RMS and mjg59_ take the pride for "free software", hence they had to take responsibility alike. | Sep 19 23:13 |
| mixling | next time you walk on stage announce this: "come, join us, we give a shit about minimum wage" | Sep 19 23:14 |
| DaemonFC | Mr. GULAG probably has one of those relationships where he's either forced his "partner" into some sort of an "arrangement" or just does it openly to "her" and brags about it. | Sep 19 23:15 |
| DaemonFC | Either way, it's disgusting and a total dick move, but hey.... | Sep 19 23:15 |
| DaemonFC | He overcompensates for it by attacking me. | Sep 19 23:16 |
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| mixling | https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=791772 | Sep 19 23:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugs.gentoo.org | 791772 – dev-lang/lua-5.4.2-r1 - /.../luac.c:352: undefined reference to luaG_getfuncline | Sep 19 23:17 | |
| mixling | Reported: 2021-05-24 07:30 | Sep 19 23:18 |
| mixling | allright, Google too is drowning in shitcoins, trillions of it | Sep 19 23:18 |
| mixling | then why, tell, why should i bother with this? | Sep 19 23:18 |
| mixling | add to this, i was educated as Telco Engineer | Sep 19 23:19 |
| mixling | meaning, i got other things to do | Sep 19 23:19 |
| mixling | mjg59_: maybe i am not as smart as you or RMS | Sep 19 23:19 |
| mixling | however, i could do a fourier transform on a dirac impluse, limes this against dt->0 | Sep 19 23:19 |
| mixling | and see the nuke blow up over California | Sep 19 23:19 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-18.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-19.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Sep 19 23:20 |
| mixling | oh, wait, CENSORED | Sep 19 23:20 |
| mixling | except, if you're employed by them | Sep 19 23:20 |
| mixling | to my understanding, it's well prepared to blow up things in my neighborhood instead? | Sep 19 23:21 |
| mixling | the economic warfare doesn't suffice? blow up things in Europe? | Sep 19 23:22 |
| XRevan86 | https://nitter.it/JuliaDavisNews/status/1571987573614219265 | Sep 19 23:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews): "Meanwhile in Russia: pundit on state TV asserts that all Western leaders who want to sanction Russia and teach the Russian people a lesson are Nazis: Joe Biden, Olaf Scholz, Sanna Marin, Ursula von der Leyen et al. More in my recent article: ⤵️"|nitter.it | Sep 19 23:22 | |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft apparently made a Hello World C that ran for over 15,000 source lines of code once, or something like that. | Sep 19 23:25 |
| DaemonFC | They did the Hello World in the Windows 3.1 era, so it's not even like you can joke "It depended on Internet Explorer!". | Sep 19 23:25 |
| DaemonFC | mjg59_ was probably using Internet Explorer as his default Web browser. | Sep 19 23:26 |
| DaemonFC | Insisting that "all the interesting people do". | Sep 19 23:26 |
| DaemonFC | "Anyone who doesn't like it is a transphobe and a rape apologist!" | Sep 19 23:26 |
| DaemonFC | "If you don't embed it, you're missing out!" | Sep 19 23:26 |
| mixling | none of the east-german military stockpiles sufficed to take aim at USA | Sep 19 23:29 |
| mixling | and even if, it's all dismantled | Sep 19 23:29 |
| mixling | in the end, that's what they understand, at RAND corp and inside Pentagon | Sep 19 23:31 |
| mixling | and inside east-germany, the government itself, sold-out to the "class enemy", to cash in dividents | Sep 19 23:32 |
| mixling | i think, the west-german military, they wish-thinked to harvest, they do need staff | Sep 19 23:34 |
| mixling | that's another, those shallow charlatans and generals on TV | Sep 19 23:34 |
| mixling | and their expertise | Sep 19 23:34 |
| mixling | it's a people's army without people | Sep 19 23:35 |
| mixling | my grandmother had a book in her shelf: "Mann ohne Volk" (Man without People) | Sep 19 23:35 |
| mixling | this was written in 1930s already... | Sep 19 23:35 |
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| mixling | no clue, why i would attach to anything what is agitated by the "class enemy" | Sep 19 23:38 |
| mixling | your freedom, not mine | Sep 19 23:38 |
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| mixling | i am probably one of the last students, who listened to german-speaking lectures, in one of the oldest universities, globally | Sep 19 23:40 |
| mixling | most east-germans, are portrayed as "un-productive" "incompetitive" dumb-fucks | Sep 19 23:40 |
| mixling | it's an _old_language, better to say it was | Sep 19 23:40 |
| mixling | there won't be another generation, of universtity staff | Sep 19 23:40 |
| mixling | because, in all universities, they replaced the staff with loyal minions | Sep 19 23:42 |
| mixling | "Mann ohne Volk"(Mann without people), written by, Arnold Krieger(warrior) | Sep 19 23:44 |
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| mixling | didn't read it... it's war propaganda from 1930s some time | Sep 19 23:45 |
| mixling | i think, all those books vanished, for good reason; didn't know, they planned for and seeked to eradicate all people and their memories | Sep 19 23:47 |
| mixling | maybe, my mindset is still too heavily occupied, by cold-war era | Sep 19 23:47 |
| mixling | because, this is when i was raised, in the middle in between | Sep 19 23:48 |
| mixling | and, among my family, we all had been in the middle in between, always | Sep 19 23:48 |
| mixling | we didn't just watch boms dropping on TV, those hit our cities | Sep 19 23:48 |
| mixling | we didn't just watch poverty and unemployment statistics on TV | Sep 19 23:49 |
| mixling | meaning if, one or another favor could be returned, to USA and their affiliates | Sep 19 23:50 |
| mixling | instead of talking about it, fully comprehend it | Sep 19 23:50 |
| mixling | if your entire tech industry is shut down, in an instant | Sep 19 23:51 |
| mixling | and _EVERYONE_ looses their job | Sep 19 23:51 |
| mixling | all companies disappear | Sep 19 23:51 |
| mixling | the language you spoke as a child, it's all gone | Sep 19 23:51 |
| mixling | the books, music, movies, family, everything | Sep 19 23:52 |
| mixling | 1990, the "liberation" | Sep 19 23:52 |
| mixling | instead of English, you'll all speak old-german language, all literature and the entire internet, no English anymore | Sep 19 23:53 |
| mixling | because, it's all "uncompetitive" "unproductive" useless crap what you do | Sep 19 23:53 |
| mixling | AT&T will be placed under supervision of Russian Telecom, all documents and standards rewritten in Russian | Sep 19 23:54 |
| mixling | and standards, ship in 10variants each | Sep 19 23:54 |
| starstreak | lol | Sep 19 23:54 |
| Helenah | :3 | Sep 19 23:55 |
| starstreak | hey Helenah :) | Sep 19 23:56 |
| Helenah | I'm smoking god knows what (street cannabis) | Sep 19 23:57 |
| starstreak | fun | Sep 19 23:57 |
| starstreak | its legal in Canada | Sep 19 23:57 |
| MinceR | aggi is smoking pure ruscism | Sep 19 23:57 |
| MinceR | while his fuhrer can't even afford to fuel vehicles as far as kyiv | Sep 19 23:58 |
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