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| DaemonFC | Puff pieces on what? | Jun 21 00:04 |
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| DaemonFC | https://chicago.suntimes.com/2021/6/16/22536813/metra-ridership-hits-a-post-covid-high | Jun 21 00:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-chicago.suntimes.com | Metra ridership hits a post-COVID high - Chicago Sun-Times | Jun 21 00:04 | |
| DaemonFC | "Commuters are heading back to the office, and tourists are trickling back into the Chicagoland area. | Jun 21 00:06 |
| DaemonFC | As of Tuesday, Metra had more than 56,637 passenger trips, a post-COVID high but still well below the weekday average of 287,593 passenger trips in June 2019." | Jun 21 00:06 |
| DaemonFC | So ridership is at 20% of what it was in 2019? | Jun 21 00:06 |
| DaemonFC | YAY! Boom economy! | Jun 21 00:06 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Not only that, but to get there they had to cut the cost of riding it by one-third. | Jun 21 00:09 |
| DaemonFC | This should really speak to how dead Chicago is now. | Jun 21 00:10 |
| DaemonFC | https://patch.com/illinois/tinleypark/pedestrian-struck-metra-train-near-tinley-park | Jun 21 00:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Pedestrian Killed By Metra Train In Tinley Park | Tinley Park, IL Patch | Jun 21 00:11 | |
| DaemonFC | That's a popular spot for people to kill themselves. | Jun 21 00:11 |
| DaemonFC | Those trains are normally going about 75-80 miles per hour heading along some stretches of that line. | Jun 21 00:12 |
| schestowitz | Is that a MAC? https://betanews.com/2021/06/20/download-debian-linux-1010-buster/#comments | Jun 21 00:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-betanews.com | Download Debian Linux 10.10 'Buster' now | Jun 21 00:20 | |
| DaemonFC | PIA seems to be getting rid of US servers. | Jun 21 00:31 |
| DaemonFC | The servers still say they're in the US, but they aren't. | Jun 21 00:31 |
| DaemonFC | Same with some of the ones in Europe. | Jun 21 00:31 |
| schestowitz | I no longer trust PIA | Jun 21 00:32 |
| CrystalMath | why not? | Jun 21 00:33 |
| schestowitz | look who runs it... | Jun 21 00:33 |
| CrystalMath | Kape Technologies | Jun 21 00:33 |
| schestowitz | That too | Jun 21 00:33 |
| CrystalMath | i mean like, what did Andrew Lee say that's so bad? | Jun 21 00:34 |
| CrystalMath | he said he really likes privacy and tor | Jun 21 00:34 |
| CrystalMath | in that interview | Jun 21 00:34 |
| CrystalMath | i'm very happy with the things he said there | Jun 21 00:34 |
| CrystalMath | maybe the way he said it wasn't your style, but still | Jun 21 00:34 |
| schestowitz | They seem to be lying about their finances | Jun 21 00:34 |
| schestowitz | and the boss of Lee is no friend of privacy | Jun 21 00:34 |
| schestowitz | so we don't really know what happens to that data anymore... | Jun 21 00:35 |
| schestowitz | I never trusted gambling companies, either | Jun 21 00:35 |
| schestowitz | this is Trump/Adelson territories | Jun 21 00:35 |
| schestowitz | very very dodgy people... liars and pretenders | Jun 21 00:36 |
| schestowitz | people who think that if they pretend to be rich maybe somehow it'll become true | Jun 21 00:36 |
| schestowitz | Adelson really was rich | Jun 21 00:36 |
| schestowitz | but a super-dodgy monster | Jun 21 00:36 |
| schestowitz | who would buy the media to attack judges who held him accountable for crimes | Jun 21 00:36 |
| schestowitz | super-dodgy folks | Jun 21 00:37 |
| DaemonFC | Trump hasn't ever been rich. He's been good at filing bankruptcy against people after spending their money. | Jun 21 00:43 |
| schestowitz | that's why Lee loves Trump, I think | Jun 21 00:44 |
| DaemonFC | I learned that if you bankrupt $100,000, people call you a parasite and irresponsible. | Jun 21 00:45 |
| DaemonFC | If you bankrupt $4-5 billion, you're a smart businessman and a mogul. | Jun 21 00:45 |
| schestowitz | if in the "foundation", they call you charitable | Jun 21 00:45 |
| schestowitz | Welcome to the RealWorld(R) | Jun 21 00:47 |
| schestowitz | polluters are green https://finance.yahoo.com/news/green-software-foundation-microsoft-build-linux-github-accenture-150050755.html | Jun 21 00:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-finance.yahoo.com | Microsoft, the Linux Foundation, and others team up to make software sustainable | Jun 21 00:47 | |
| schestowitz | Linux is Windows | Jun 21 00:47 |
| schestowitz | debt is "success" | Jun 21 00:47 |
| DaemonFC | A lot of that money in the bankruptcy were medical bills where they played The Price Is Right in their billing department and added a couple extra zeros at the end. | Jun 21 00:47 |
| DaemonFC | Also, debt the government forced me into with fines and bullshit. | Jun 21 00:48 |
| DaemonFC | I was not out buying flat screens and playstations and eating at fancy restaurants. Although I would have certainly enjoyed it more. | Jun 21 00:48 |
| DaemonFC | If those folks get to file, why not me? | Jun 21 00:48 |
| DaemonFC | I hurried up and filed while Mandy hadn't had too many paychecks from Walmart. | Jun 21 00:49 |
| DaemonFC | So the entire bankruptcy estate was frozen while I didn't have much money coming in. | Jun 21 00:49 |
| DaemonFC | For months we'd been living off my relatively small income, in a motel room. | Jun 21 00:49 |
| DaemonFC | Talk about fake it til you make it. | Jun 21 00:49 |
| DaemonFC | Our bills were easily triple what my income was, but hey hell, I slept okay oddly. | Jun 21 00:50 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, "Anyone else wanna negotiate?" -Korben Dallas | Jun 21 00:51 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 21 00:51 |
| schestowitz | [00:49] <DaemonFC> Talk about fake it til you make it. | Jun 21 00:54 |
| schestowitz | that sums it up | Jun 21 00:54 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Vq7csh83U4 | Jun 21 00:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Fifth Element - Anybody else want to negotiate? - YouTube | Jun 21 00:54 | |
| schestowitz | take debt, take some 'sport' cars... not practical value, but waste implies abundance of money | Jun 21 00:54 |
| schestowitz | talk trash like you're a tycoon | Jun 21 00:54 |
| schestowitz | seen lots of charlatans like these over the years.... if you ask them the right question, then you quickly realise they're fake | Jun 21 00:55 |
| schestowitz | inc. Lee | Jun 21 00:55 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, that's the best line in GTA V, schestowitz | Jun 21 00:55 |
| DaemonFC | When Franklin Clinton (the repo guy) tells the other one they're repossessing so many cars because, "Man, do you know how much fake credit there is in this fucked up country?". | Jun 21 00:56 |
| schestowitz | I played only the first GTA | Jun 21 00:56 |
| schestowitz | and didn't like it, either | Jun 21 00:56 |
| kingoffrance | "repo man's got all night" :) | Jun 21 00:56 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Lee can just ignore the question. | Jun 21 00:56 |
| schestowitz | he didn't | Jun 21 00:56 |
| schestowitz | he racked up tons of debt | Jun 21 00:57 |
| schestowitz | then trying to rationalise it | Jun 21 00:57 |
| schestowitz | like, companies with debt are better off | Jun 21 00:57 |
| schestowitz | btw | Jun 21 00:57 |
| schestowitz | I was once told that taking debt gives you better credit | Jun 21 00:57 |
| schestowitz | this is nonsense | Jun 21 00:57 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Kape? | Jun 21 00:57 |
| schestowitz | doesn't even pass the smell test | Jun 21 00:57 |
| activelow | it is the securities/assets | Jun 21 00:57 |
| schestowitz | sounds like pure propaganda from lending | Jun 21 00:57 |
| schestowitz | "here, have debt, it'll IMPROVE your status" | Jun 21 00:57 |
| activelow | financial utilities can easily be invented, securities/assets cannot be | Jun 21 00:58 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: I'm just salty from May, where he was answering questions, like every third one. | Jun 21 00:58 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, It does. | Jun 21 00:58 |
| XRevan86 | even when repeating them | Jun 21 00:58 |
| DaemonFC | That latest credit card I got bumped my FICO score up 32 more points. | Jun 21 00:58 |
| XRevan86 | At least he didn't Putin his way out of answering them. | Jun 21 00:59 |
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| DaemonFC | 13 months post-bankruptcy filing and my FICO is 636. | Jun 21 00:59 |
| DaemonFC | Well, you come out of bankruptcy with credit scores, and without credit scores. | Jun 21 01:00 |
| DaemonFC | There's like 10 FICO models and 3 VantageScore models. | Jun 21 01:00 |
| DaemonFC | Not every FICO model scores you if you have no account history. | Jun 21 01:00 |
| DaemonFC | Or if it's too new. | Jun 21 01:00 |
| DaemonFC | Experian will give you your FICO 8, but specifically the type of FICO 8 that credit card lenders will see. | Jun 21 01:01 |
| schestowitz | [21:04] <rasengan[llf]> in pia's case that wasnt because we had all the leverage | Jun 21 01:01 |
| schestowitz | [21:04] <rasengan[llf]> since we didnt need the money. | Jun 21 01:01 |
| schestowitz | [21:04] <rasengan[llf]> took debt in the past not right now | Jun 21 01:01 |
| DaemonFC | Typically, banks like to score borrowers in 50 point blocks or so. | Jun 21 01:01 |
| DaemonFC | A FICO of 700-750 means you can pretty much lump these people in as "very good" and figure that about 3% of them will ever default on you. | Jun 21 01:02 |
| DaemonFC | Over 800, nobody really looks at much else anymore. | Jun 21 01:02 |
| schestowitz | I'm omitting more sensitive parts though | Jun 21 01:02 |
| DaemonFC | I got a car loan and they never asked about income. | Jun 21 01:02 |
| schestowitz | I don't buy this whole "we're SO healthy that we decided to borrow money" BS | Jun 21 01:03 |
| schestowitz | lending? Maybe. | Jun 21 01:03 |
| schestowitz | not borrowing | Jun 21 01:03 |
| DaemonFC | They figure you must have income or else why's your credit so high. | Jun 21 01:03 |
| schestowitz | they can take back the car | Jun 21 01:03 |
| schestowitz | more risk for you | Jun 21 01:04 |
| DaemonFC | They'll write loans to people with credit in the 600s, but they'll demand more interest and make you prove you have an income that's reasonable compared to the size of the loan. | Jun 21 01:04 |
| DaemonFC | Lots of risk, because the value of the car disappears into fees. | Jun 21 01:04 |
| schestowitz | pick up interest payments and, if all comes to ruin, repossess | Jun 21 01:04 |
| schestowitz | they write it in such a way that they can barely lose | Jun 21 01:04 |
| DaemonFC | You can lose the car and owe them pretty much the entire amount of the loan. And most people don't know that and go "Hey wait, that car was worth $12,000 as a used car!". | Jun 21 01:04 |
| schestowitz | anyway, pia and ltm freenode etc. are in fiscally dodgy hands | Jun 21 01:05 |
| schestowitz | malware company, gambling... | Jun 21 01:05 |
| DaemonFC | But that was before they auctioned it for $3,500 and deducted $2,900 in repo fees, storage, etc. | Jun 21 01:05 |
| schestowitz | they only pretend to be masters of the univrse | Jun 21 01:05 |
| schestowitz | freenode is even being operated like this | Jun 21 01:05 |
| schestowitz | like a trump estate | Jun 21 01:05 |
| schestowitz | impulsive and messy | Jun 21 01:05 |
| DaemonFC | Max-P disappeared after the company got bought out. | Jun 21 01:05 |
| DaemonFC | He was their customer support guy. | Jun 21 01:06 |
| schestowitz | bbiab | Jun 21 01:06 |
| techrights-bot/fn | #GNU #Linux is turning 38 https://www.i-programmer.info/news/82-heritage/14657-linux-at-30-a-penguin-for-your-thoughts.html see http://techrights.org/2021/04/30/gnu-linux-turning-38/ | Jun 21 01:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.i-programmer.info | Linux At 30 - A Penguin For Your Thoughts | Jun 21 01:07 | |
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| techrights-bot/fn | More coverage on #Debian 10.10 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152468#comment-30002 | Jun 21 01:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian 10.10 release 202106191548 | Tux Machines | Jun 21 01:07 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | These hearings are not legal https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=5668f7a1-5128-456c-a95b-2fb2c9053f50 #epo | Jun 21 01:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Oral Proceedings by Video Conference at the EPO - is there a secret framing handbook? - Lexology | Jun 21 01:08 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | "My main file manager is LF and most of the file managers I look at are of the same style but today is different, today we're looking at XPLR which is a single pane file manager with extra sub windows that can be 100% customized in Lua." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaVRtYh1IRU | Jun 21 01:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-XPLR: Insanely Hackable Lua File Manager - YouTube | Jun 21 01:08 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | " #Emacs has a really neat mode built into it called prettify-symbols-mode. You add a block of code into your Emacs config listing words and corresponding symbols. Anytime you type one of the words, Emacs replaces with the symbol or emoji that you specify." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iCjhdCUuLg | Jun 21 01:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Transform Words Into Pretty Symbols In Emacs - YouTube | Jun 21 01:08 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | It would be nice to think that the events of 28 May have given the Enlarged Board pause for thought.” • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/06/20/the-epo-games/ ䷉ #Techrights #EPO #corruption #patents | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/20/the-epo-games/ | Jun 21 01:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Virtual Injustice — Part 13: Let the Games Continue… | Techrights | Jun 21 01:10 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, NPR was talking about the heat wave and they posted a photo of a park ranger next to a sign. | Jun 21 01:12 |
| DaemonFC | Problem is, I recognize that image. | Jun 21 01:12 |
| DaemonFC | It was from 2012, when we were having that really awful heat wave and drought. | Jun 21 01:12 |
| DaemonFC | Things got so bad that year that the reservoirs in Huntington County, Indiana, which are normally huge, almost ran dry. | Jun 21 01:13 |
| DaemonFC | The government had to remind people it was illegal to go out and steal things from the exposed towns that they had flooded in the 1960s to make way for the lakes. | Jun 21 01:13 |
| DaemonFC | It's illegal to take things from those sites, yet you flooded the entire area.....hmmm. | Jun 21 01:14 |
| techrights-bot/fn | #AMD Continues Working To Mainline Their #PTDMA Driver For Linux - Phoronix ⚓ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMD-PTDMA-Linux-Driver-v10 ䷉ #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | Jun 21 01:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AMD Continues Working To Mainline Their PTDMA Driver For Linux - Phoronix | Jun 21 01:17 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | "Over the past days, I have received tons of positive feedback on my previous blog post about forming the Debian BBB Packaging Team [1]. Feedback arrived via mail, IRC, [matrix] and Mastodon. Awesome. Thanks for sharing your thoughts, folks..." https://sunweavers.net/blog/node/134 | Jun 21 01:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sunweavers.net | BBB Packaging for Debian, a short Heads-Up | sunweaver's NET | Jun 21 01:17 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | More of these #EPO puff pieces on Sunday https://www.nyoooz.com/news/chennai/1586997/indian-american-chemist-wins-coveted-honour-news-today/ https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/innovative-foundry-technologies-resolves-infringement-dispute-with-smic-and-initiates-new-patent-litigation-301314816.html see http://techrights.org/2021/06/20/epo-awards-smokescreening/ | Jun 21 01:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Indian American chemist wins coveted honour News Today | CHENNAI NYOOOZ | Jun 21 01:18 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.prnewswire.com | Innovative Foundry Technologies Resolves Infringement Dispute with SMIC and Initiates New Patent Litigation | Jun 21 01:18 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO: Fake Patents, Fake (Paid-for) Patent Coverage, and Fake Awards for Public Relations Purposes | Techrights | Jun 21 01:18 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | Besieged #EPO courts want you to think patenting life and nature is OK, even though the European #Patent Convention (EPC) says otherwise https://www.iam-media.com/patenting-plant-inventions-the-epo-after-g-319 | Jun 21 01:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.iam-media.com | Patenting plant inventions via the EPO after G 3/19 | IAM | Jun 21 01:18 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | "In European patenting practice, European Patent Office (EPO) decisions play a significant role and set directions." Corrupt #EPO management and besieged judges letting through unlawful #swpats using buzzwords like "hey hi" https://www.internationallawoffice.com/Newsletters/Intellectual-Property/European-Union/Berggren-Oy/AI-patenting-practices-are-changing-but-is-the-direction-right? | Jun 21 01:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.internationallawoffice.com | AI patenting practices are changing – but is the direction right? - Newsletters - International Law Office | Jun 21 01:21 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | Breaking the law, granting unlawful #patents using ridiculous loopholes and entryism inside #patent offices https://www.bereskinparr.com/doc/comparing-the-canadian-and-european-approaches-to-patentability-of-computer-implemented-inventions #swpats | Jun 21 01:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bereskinparr.com | Comparing the Canadian and European Approaches to the Patentability of Computer-Implemented Inventions : Bereskin & Parr LLP | Jun 21 01:21 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | Virtual Injustice — Part 13: Let the Games Continue… http://techrights.org/2021/06/20/the-epo-games/ #epo #corruption #kangarooCourt #patents #haar | Jun 21 01:21 |
| techrights-bot/fn | "An open letter in support of Richard Matthew Stallman being reinstated by the Free Software Foundation" now at 6,764 signatures. 6 new signatures. #failedCoup #rms #fsf #gnu #freesw | Jun 21 01:24 |
| techrights-bot/fn | #KDE : Akademy, KNewStuff, and digiKam • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152494 | Jun 21 01:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE: Akademy, KNewStuff, and digiKam | Tux Machines | Jun 21 01:25 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | Audiocasts/Shows: XPLR, GNU World Order, and Emacs • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152496 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 21 01:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Audiocasts/Shows: XPLR, GNU World Order, and Emacs | Tux Machines | Jun 21 01:25 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | today’s howtos • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152497 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 21 01:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 21 01:27 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | The best 10 videos conferencing tool for enterprises in 2021 • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152498 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 21 01:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The best 10 videos conferencing tool for enterprises in 2021 | Tux Machines | Jun 21 01:28 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | #Linux 5.13-rc7 • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152495 #kernel | Jun 21 01:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 5.13-rc7 | Tux Machines | Jun 21 01:28 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | #Watchtroll blowhard Gene Quinn is once again attacking high US courts for throwing out #swpats in "The CAFC is Suffering from a Prolonged Version of Alice in Wonderland Syndrome" (no, #softwarePatents ought not EXIST!) | Jun 21 01:34 |
| techrights-bot/fn | #copyrightTrolls http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/06/cjeu-rules-on-seeding-trolls-and.html | Jun 21 01:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | CJEU rules on seeding, trolls, and interplay between copyright enforcement and data protection rules - The IPKat | Jun 21 01:35 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | How #litigation firms are in effect infiltrating courts to promote #patent maximalism and attack science for lawyers' fees https://www.managingip.com/article/b1s8jht0cn41z1/performance-review-uk-lawyers-evaluate-new-ip-judges #entryism #patents #religion | Jun 21 01:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | Performance review: UK lawyers evaluate new IP judges | Managing Intellectual Property | Jun 21 01:37 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | Bias the language, bias the debate, bias the outcome, bias the policy. #patent extremists poison everything. We all pay the price for it. | Jun 21 01:39 |
| techrights-bot/fn | #Fakepatents should be possible to oppose by anybody; #patents are not rights and people aren't magically entitled to #monopolies as the burden of proof is on them to justify it https://www.mathys-squire.com/insights-and-events/news/filing-an-opposition-as-a-straw-man-the-pros-and-cons/ | Jun 21 01:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mathys-squire.com | Filing an opposition as a straw man: the pros and cons - Mathys & Squire LLP | Jun 21 01:40 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | "Rather, Judge Stark found that Cirba Inc. (“INC”) did not actually have rights [sic] to enforce the #patent and thus dismissed the case for lack of Article III standing." https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/06/infringement-standing-question.html | Jun 21 01:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | The Right to Sue for Infringement is no longer a Standing Question | Patently-O | Jun 21 01:41 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | The #patent extremists LOVE conflating PATENTING with "invention". Those are NOT the same thing... | Jun 21 01:42 |
| techrights-bot/fn | #USPTO has long oppressed people based on class, so it's cheap and easy to pretend not to be doing that based on race https://www.patentdocs.org/2021/06/uspto-closed-on-june-18-for-juneteenth-national-independence-day.html | Jun 21 01:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patentdocs.org | Patent Docs: USPTO Closed on June 18 in Observance of Juneteenth National Independence Day | Jun 21 01:44 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | #fakepatents or #swpats in "Games" clothing https://www.mathys-squire.com/insights-and-events/news/level-up-your-ip-strategy-the-patentability-of-video-games-in-the-uk-and-europe/ | Jun 21 01:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mathys-squire.com | Level up your IP strategy: the patentability of video games in the UK and Europe - Mathys & Squire LLP | Jun 21 01:45 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | This decision is moot because of those boards patently lack an autonomy and they're captured by #patent maximalists who mere rubber-stamp everything https://www.cms-lawnow.com/ealerts/2021/06/european-patent-office-appeal-board-decision-on-product-by-process-bispecific-antibody-claim?cc_lang=en see http://techrights.org/2021/06/20/the-epo-games/ | Jun 21 01:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cms-lawnow.com | European Patent Office Appeal Board decision on ‘product-by-process’ bispecific antibody claim | Jun 21 01:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Virtual Injustice — Part 13: Let the Games Continue… | Techrights | Jun 21 01:47 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | More bickering over who 'invented' nature and life; this is beyond insane, the realm of the deranged and the lobbyists trying to privatise everything https://www.patentdocs.org/2021/06/cvc-opposes-broads-motion-to-exclude-evidence-and-broad-files-reply.html | Jun 21 01:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patentdocs.org | Patent Docs: CVC Opposes Broad's Motion to Exclude Evidence and Broad Files Reply | Jun 21 01:49 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | "The Federal Circuit has affirmed the TTAB’s decision refusing to register FocusVision’s eponymous mark FOCUSVISION after being opposed by IBI based upon its FOCUS marks." #uspto #trademarks #cafc https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/06/vision-dupont-factors.html | Jun 21 01:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | Focus Your Vision on the DuPont Factors | Patently-O | Jun 21 01:50 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | Oooh, wow! An "in-display fingerprint sensor"... sounds like... something that's hardly a feature to you https://bgr.com/tech/galaxy-z-fold-3-rumors-under-panel-camera-fingerprint-sensor-patent-5933040/ | Jun 21 01:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Samsung’s biggest Galaxy Fold 3 upgrades might have leaked – BGR | Jun 21 01:51 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | #Patents that just kill millions of people for profit (and no other purpose) https://science.thewire.in/health/the-divergent-paths-of-drug-prices-in-india-and-the-us/ | Jun 21 01:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-science.thewire.in | The Divergent Paths of Drug Prices in India and the US - The Wire Science | Jun 21 01:53 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | Hyping up #medicine with terms like "personalised" to justify #patents on life and #nature https://www.iam-media.com/personalised-medicine-in-brazil-ip-and-regulatory-challenges | Jun 21 01:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.iam-media.com | Personalised medicine in Brazil: IP and regulatory challenges | IAM | Jun 21 01:55 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | More mechanisms for #taxevasion using #patents and #trademarks https://news.bloombergtax.com/daily-tax-report-international/germany-new-legislation-on-wht-relief-anti-treaty-shopping-and-transfer-pricing #de #germany | Jun 21 01:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.bloombergtax.com | NO TITLE | Jun 21 01:58 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▁▅▇▅▅▅▃▆▆▄▁▂▅▁▂▄▅▂▅▅▅▅▆▃▅▄▄▅▅▆▃▄▁▇▄▁ avg(k/sec) 21.91 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▂▂▃▁▂▁▂▂▁█▂█▂█▂▂▂▂▁▂▁▁▁▁▃▁▁▂█▂▁▁ avg(k/sec) 56.63▕ swarm size (avg): 301.96 ⟲ | Jun 21 01:59 |
| techrights-bot/fn | #QOwnNotes 21.6.4 https://www.neowin.net/news/qownnotes-2164/ #freesw #gpl #copyleft | Jun 21 02:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.neowin.net | QOwnNotes 21.6.4 - Neowin | Jun 21 02:00 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | When did days and figures of feminism/antiracism etc. becomes just marketing opportunists/stunts/tokens of large, racist, oppressive corporations? Was it always this bad? | Jun 21 02:02 |
| techrights-bot/fn | Linux’s Built-In Tools for Data Recovery and Backup - Influencive ⚓ https://www.influencive.com/linuxs-built-in-tools-for-data-recovery-and-backup/ ䷉ #influencive #gnu #linux | Jun 21 02:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux's Built-In Tools for Data Recovery and Backup - Influencive | Jun 21 02:03 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | This firm is embroiled in a #corruption scandal and lawsuits; it doesn't seem to know that the Boards of Appeal of the #EPO are besieged and compromised; it probably does not care either ( #patent maximalsits thrive in mischief and entryism) https://www.marks-clerk.com/insights/to-disclose-or-not-to-disclose-that-is-the-question/ | Jun 21 02:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.marks-clerk.com | To disclose, or not to disclose? That is the question. | Jun 21 02:06 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | Getting #patents on #mathematics in #taiwan http://www.wisdomlaw.com.tw/m/405-1596-102872,c12252.php?Lang=en #swpats are in need of abolishing globally, ASAP | Jun 21 02:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.wisdomlaw.com.tw | How to patent computer software in Taiwan? New Taiwan Patent Examination Guidelines for Computer Software-Related Inventions explained | Jun 21 02:08 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | ILLEGAL #epo "provision which purported to empower the Boards to decide appeal cases by means of ViCo hearings conducted without the consent of the parties." http://techrights.org/2021/06/20/the-epo-games/ | Jun 21 02:08 |
| techrights-bot/fn | Introducing IRC.com by #freenode https://freenode.net/news/introducing-irc what their plan is... with what's left of the network... | Jun 21 02:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-freenode.net | Introducing IRC.com by freenode - freenode | Jun 21 02:10 | |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: ^^^ | Jun 21 02:10 |
| schestowitz | "freenode is IRC. freenode is FOSS. freenode is freedom. Ask not what you can do for freenode, but what freenode will do for you. IRC is back!" | Jun 21 02:11 |
| schestowitz | huh? | Jun 21 02:11 |
| XRevan86 | > Share it with your friends as IRC and FOSS are no longer walled gardens | Jun 21 02:14 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Why does it feel like he reinvented Matrix but fully centralised? | Jun 21 02:15 |
| XRevan86 | Or no, I'm confused. How does this bouncer work exactly to deliver all this fancy stuff? | Jun 21 02:18 |
| techrights-bot/fn | Fete de la Musique and why I don’t use Google • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152499 | Jun 21 02:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fete de la Musique and why I don’t use Google | Tux Machines | Jun 21 02:19 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | Review: #CloudReady and #TrueNAS Core • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152500 | Jun 21 02:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Review: CloudReady and TrueNAS Core | Tux Machines | Jun 21 02:20 | |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: I'll go look for the source code of the Android client. | Jun 21 02:20 |
| schestowitz | cool | Jun 21 02:21 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Unsuccessful. | Jun 21 02:23 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: It is so FOSS is ascended beyond the need to publish the source code. | Jun 21 02:23 |
| schestowitz | android and anonymity are not compatible | Jun 21 02:24 |
| schestowitz | maybe not yet | Jun 21 02:24 |
| schestowitz | [01:36] <rasengan> i setup a way for people to chat anonymously in #anonchan - https://github.com/realrasengan/anonbot <-- you can download yourself if you'd like to setup (just requires nodejs/npm) xD | Jun 21 02:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - realrasengan/anonbot: Anonchan is the bot that powers #anonchan on freenode, the place to chat anonymously. | Jun 21 02:25 | |
| schestowitz | [02:39] <schestowitz> thanks, wish you'd have a self-hosted git repo tbh | Jun 21 02:25 |
| schestowitz | [02:41] <schestowitz> http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Delete_Github | Jun 21 02:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Delete Github - Techrights | Jun 21 02:25 | |
| schestowitz | [02:44] <rasengan> ah true, i'll move everything to git.freenode.net soon xD | Jun 21 02:25 |
| schestowitz | [02:44] <rasengan> its pretty cool though you can just go to #anonchan with your main nick and start chatting basically xD | Jun 21 02:25 |
| schestowitz | [02:45] <rasengan> and type !new to get another id if you feel like youre exposed xD | Jun 21 02:25 |
| schestowitz | [02:52] <schestowitz> yes, it can be useful | Jun 21 02:25 |
| schestowitz | [02:52] <schestowitz> if the trolling can be tamed somewhat | Jun 21 02:25 |
| schestowitz | [02:52] <schestowitz> we need anon irc | Jun 21 02:25 |
| schestowitz | [02:52] <schestowitz> for leakers and whistleblowers | Jun 21 02:25 |
| schestowitz | [02:52] <rasengan> agreed :o | Jun 21 02:25 |
| schestowitz | [02:52] <schestowitz> who don't ahve vpn | Jun 21 02:25 |
| schestowitz | [02:52] <rasengan> Maybe techrights can run a techrights-anon haha ;) | Jun 21 02:25 |
| schestowitz | [02:53] <schestowitz> we thought about using gemini:// | Jun 21 02:25 |
| schestowitz | [02:53] <schestowitz> but it's not secure enough yet | Jun 21 02:25 |
| schestowitz | [02:53] <rasengan> ah ic | Jun 21 02:25 |
| schestowitz | [02:53] <rasengan> the #anonchan is pretty secure but it gets more secure with more ppl | Jun 21 02:25 |
| schestowitz | [02:54] <rasengan> right now there are 12 ppl so you can 'kinda' assume who ppl are maybe | Jun 21 02:25 |
| schestowitz | [02:54] <rasengan> but if there were 500 it would be very hard | Jun 21 02:25 |
| schestowitz | [02:56] <schestowitz> we spent years explaining why privacy and sec projects don't belong in NSA Prism (GitHub/Microsoft) | Jun 21 02:26 |
| schestowitz | [02:57] <schestowitz> they can modify the source and binaries (and do) | Jun 21 02:26 |
| schestowitz | [02:57] <rasengan> true :X | Jun 21 02:26 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: could this be related to anonbot? | Jun 21 02:26 |
| CrystalMath | it would be good to check the self-hosted repo | Jun 21 02:26 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: I don't see how. | Jun 21 02:26 |
| CrystalMath | but i believe that this new mobile client stuff is based on prawnsalad's work | Jun 21 02:27 |
| XRevan86 | https://apkpure.com/irc-com/com.irc.ircclient/versions exists at least for a year. | Jun 21 02:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://apkpure.com/irc-com/com.irc.ircclient/versions ) | Jun 21 02:27 | |
| CrystalMath | so it might be useful to check kiwi stuff | Jun 21 02:28 |
| techrights-bot/fn | Links 21/6/2021: Linux 5.13 RC7, IRC.com by Freenode • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/06/20/linux-5-13-rc7/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/20/linux-5-13-rc7/ | Jun 21 02:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 21/6/2021: Linux 5.13 RC7, IRC.com by Freenode | Techrights | Jun 21 02:28 | |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: I did check. | Jun 21 02:28 |
| techrights-bot/fn | #Linux and the Logo/Mascot • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152502 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 21 02:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux and the Logo/Mascot | Tux Machines | Jun 21 02:29 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | Software: Backup, QOwnNotes, and IRC • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152501 | Jun 21 02:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Software: Backup, QOwnNotes, and IRC | Tux Machines | Jun 21 02:29 | |
| XRevan86 | Not going to find IRC.com in F-Droid any time soon. | Jun 21 02:32 |
| schestowitz | we need to see source code | Jun 21 02:32 |
| schestowitz | seems like a domain harvesting operation | Jun 21 02:32 |
| schestowitz | buying a community takes more than this | Jun 21 02:32 |
| schestowitz | also, regarding privacy, the trust is lost | Jun 21 02:32 |
| schestowitz | they don't understand some of the very basics | Jun 21 02:32 |
| schestowitz | [02:57] <schestowitz> you don't always get what you see | Jun 21 02:33 |
| schestowitz | [02:58] <schestowitz> I am looking into your project | Jun 21 02:33 |
| schestowitz | [02:59] <schestowitz> btw, npn=microsoft and they often ship malware | Jun 21 02:33 |
| schestowitz | [02:59] <schestowitz> and then the media blames "open source" | Jun 21 02:33 |
| schestowitz | [02:59] <schestowitz> did you wrote all this js code? | Jun 21 02:33 |
| schestowitz | [03:00] <schestowitz> "/home/shellsuser/Software/anonbot/.password" | Jun 21 02:33 |
| schestowitz | [03:00] <schestowitz> shells is cenralised | Jun 21 02:33 |
| schestowitz | [03:01] <schestowitz> I saw one shells puff piece today | Jun 21 02:33 |
| schestowitz | [03:01] <schestowitz> I assume your brother alex paid for it | Jun 21 02:33 |
| schestowitz | [03:04] <rasengan> ah yeah thats true re npm :x | Jun 21 02:33 |
| schestowitz | [03:04] <rasengan> ah yeah i am running it on a shells vm ;x | Jun 21 02:33 |
| schestowitz | [03:04] <schestowitz> as a rule of thumb, based on history and experience, every anonymity and crypto project that's effective is a targe, along with people who work on it | Jun 21 02:33 |
| schestowitz | [03:04] <schestowitz> shells is outside the user's full control | Jun 21 02:33 |
| schestowitz | [03:05] <schestowitz> that's like running signal on a 'phone' | Jun 21 02:33 |
| schestowitz | [03:05] <schestowitz> the towers (networks) control it remotely over the co-processor | Jun 21 02:33 |
| schestowitz | [03:05] <rasengan> that is true | Jun 21 02:33 |
| schestowitz | [03:05] <schestowitz> https://wikileaks.org/ciav7p1/ | Jun 21 02:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wikileaks.org | Vault7 - Home | Jun 21 02:33 | |
| schestowitz | [03:05] <schestowitz> there are exploits already | Jun 21 02:33 |
| schestowitz | [03:07] <rasengan> ah yeah i am familiar with that | Jun 21 02:33 |
| schestowitz | [03:07] <schestowitz> we need to think ahead | Jun 21 02:33 |
| schestowitz | [03:07] <schestowitz> I'm happy to give input | Jun 21 02:33 |
| schestowitz | [03:22] <rasengan> i agree. and any input is definitely well appreciated! | Jun 21 02:33 |
| schestowitz | ---fin--- | Jun 21 02:33 |
| schestowitz | nothing sensitive in thee | Jun 21 02:33 |
| schestowitz | but the point is, there are mistakes along the way | Jun 21 02:33 |
| schestowitz | in the way this thing is handled | Jun 21 02:33 |
| schestowitz | and many holes | Jun 21 02:33 |
| XRevan86 | https://irc.com/blog/development-updates "We sponsored the development of the InspIRCd IRC server so that we have a stable, well tested and progressive codebase to build upon" | Jun 21 02:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-IRC.com | Blog | Development updates | Jun 21 02:34 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | "Sponsoring the development of the #KiwiIRC client allowed the web based project to flourish faster than before. While still very much a community based effort, some development additions has only be possible with the extra development support." https://irc.com/blog/development-updates | Jun 21 02:35 |
| schestowitz | the page is undated | Jun 21 02:35 |
| schestowitz | could be very old | Jun 21 02:35 |
| schestowitz | ""Sponsoring the development of the #KiwiIRC client allowed the web based project to flourish faster than before. While still very much a community based effort, some development additions has only be possible with the extra development support." https://irc.com/blog/development-updates" | Jun 21 02:35 |
| schestowitz | "~Darren Whitlen (or if you see me on IRC - prawnsalad!)" | Jun 21 02:35 |
| schestowitz | Was this BEFORE or after their dispute? | Jun 21 02:35 |
| schestowitz | "For the people that know the ins-and-outs of IRC or use telnet as their client, all the same expected functionality still exists at irc.irc.com, TLS 6697." | Jun 21 02:36 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: It being old is what makes it interesting. | Jun 21 02:36 |
| XRevan86 | It's way before. | Jun 21 02:36 |
| schestowitz | "© 2020 IRC.com, LLC" | Jun 21 02:36 |
| schestowitz | 2020 | Jun 21 02:36 |
| schestowitz | from page source (and page) | Jun 21 02:36 |
| XRevan86 | The post is from 2019-04-30 | Jun 21 02:36 |
| techrights-bot/fn | *** 𝐈 𝐑 𝐂 𝐋 𝐈 𝐍 𝐊 𝐒 *** Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-200621.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-200621.txt Read the log now... | Jun 21 02:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell-social @ FreeNode: Sunday, June 20, 2021 | Jun 21 02:36 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | "Head on over to the Android Play store or the iOS App store and download, install and login!" We cannot find source code, though... https://irc.com/blog/introducing-irc-com-by-freenode | Jun 21 02:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-IRC.com | Blog | Introducing IRC.com by freenode | Jun 21 02:37 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | *** 𝐈 𝐑 𝐂 𝐋 𝐈 𝐍 𝐊 𝐒 *** Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-200621.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-200621.txt Read the log now... | Jun 21 02:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Sunday, June 20, 2021 | Jun 21 02:37 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | Oldr #freenode "planned to move to solanum" http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-200621.html#tJun%2020%2014:02:44 | Jun 21 02:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Sunday, June 20, 2021 | Jun 21 02:38 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | *** 𝐈 𝐑 𝐂 𝐋 𝐈 𝐍 𝐊 𝐒 *** Yesterday's #boycottnovell IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-200621.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-200621.txt Read the log now... | Jun 21 02:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: Sunday, June 20, 2021 | Jun 21 02:38 | |
| XRevan86 | Clearly prawnsalad had other plans other than continuation of ircd-seven | Jun 21 02:39 |
| AdmFubar | https://morrick.me/archives/9368 | Jun 21 02:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-morrick.me | Safari 15 on Mac OS, a user interface mess | Riccardo Mori | Jun 21 02:39 | |
| schestowitz | proprietary | Jun 21 02:39 |
| techrights-bot/fn | *** 𝐈 𝐑 𝐂 𝐋 𝐈 𝐍 𝐊 𝐒 *** Yesterday's #techbytes IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-200621.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-200621.txt Read the log now... | Jun 21 02:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techbytes @ FreeNode: Sunday, June 20, 2021 | Jun 21 02:39 | |
| schestowitz | mess by default | Jun 21 02:40 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: IRC.com? It is. | Jun 21 02:40 |
| schestowitz | I don't understand it | Jun 21 02:41 |
| schestowitz | IRC is not so hard | Jun 21 02:41 |
| XRevan86 | "IRC and FOSS are no longer walled gardens" thanks to some proprietary applications. | Jun 21 02:41 |
| schestowitz | many clients existed already | Jun 21 02:41 |
| schestowitz | so, what is new? | Jun 21 02:41 |
| techrights-bot/fn | *** 𝐁𝐔𝐋𝐋𝐄𝐓𝐈𝐍 *** Yesterday's bulletin ready. http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2021-06-20.txt | Jun 21 02:41 |
| schestowitz | the glorified domain? | Jun 21 02:41 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Oh, these aren't IRC clients exactly. | Jun 21 02:41 |
| schestowitz | Takeover of a large network? | Jun 21 02:41 |
| schestowitz | with a shotgun wedding? | Jun 21 02:41 |
| schestowitz | it's chaos for communities | Jun 21 02:41 |
| schestowitz | for someone's business ambitions | Jun 21 02:42 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: IRC cannot do push notifications | Jun 21 02:42 |
| schestowitz | either way, mobile? | Jun 21 02:43 |
| XRevan86 | However, one can make an additional layer over IRC that can. | Jun 21 02:43 |
| schestowitz | yes, well... | Jun 21 02:43 |
| schestowitz | or use another protocol | Jun 21 02:43 |
| schestowitz | we added online scrollback for ours | Jun 21 02:43 |
| schestowitz | like | Jun 21 02:43 |
| schestowitz | Full logs (past days) in http://techrights.org/category/irc-logs/ and latest below. | Jun 21 02:43 |
| *schestowitz has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) | Jun 21 02:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Logs | Techrights | Jun 21 02:43 | |
| XRevan86 | matrix-appservice-irc, yes %). | Jun 21 02:43 |
| *schestowitz (~roy@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #techrights | Jun 21 02:44 | |
| *irc.techrights.org sets mode +q #techrights schestowitz | Jun 21 02:44 | |
| schestowitz | sorry, pasted the wrong thing | Jun 21 02:44 |
| schestowitz | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/chat/index.gmi | Jun 21 02:44 |
| XRevan86 | matterbridge supports nctalk | Jun 21 02:46 |
| schestowitz | yes, so no major innovation there | Jun 21 02:46 |
| schestowitz | what is the point of it all? | Jun 21 02:46 |
| schestowitz | people use IRC not for "mobile" | Jun 21 02:46 |
| schestowitz | free software hackers like IRC for particular reasons | Jun 21 02:47 |
| schestowitz | so this sort of tackles the wrong issue, while causing disruption to those who actually grew up on IRC | Jun 21 02:47 |
| schestowitz | the intention is not bad | Jun 21 02:47 |
| schestowitz | but... | Jun 21 02:47 |
| schestowitz | whether they will pull it off... | Jun 21 02:47 |
| schestowitz | irc.com may launch | Jun 21 02:47 |
| schestowitz | but the freenode userbase is mostly gone | Jun 21 02:48 |
| XRevan86 | Well, the idea isn't all bad. But the implementation raises a question: if IRV is to be like that, what's the worth of IRC? | Jun 21 02:48 |
| schestowitz | buying a userbase is hard | Jun 21 02:48 |
| schestowitz | like walking a horse to water and forcing it to also drink up | Jun 21 02:48 |
| schestowitz | either way, watch this space... | Jun 21 02:51 |
| schestowitz | maybe I'm being far too sceptical | Jun 21 02:51 |
| schestowitz | and maybe he has a trick up his sleeve | Jun 21 02:51 |
| XRevan86 | https://reports.exodus-privacy.eu.org/en/reports/106510/ mmmm | Jun 21 02:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-reports.exodus-privacy.eu.org | εxodus | Jun 21 02:52 | |
| schestowitz | e.g. to bring many to irc.com through some partner or channel | Jun 21 02:52 |
| schestowitz | and then bring an influx of ircv3 users | Jun 21 02:52 |
| schestowitz | maybe... | Jun 21 02:52 |
| techrights-bot/fn | #irccom #freenode #privacy #ProprietarySoftware https://reports.exodus-privacy.eu.org/en/reports/106510/ | Jun 21 02:53 |
| schestowitz | "RECORD_AUDIO" | Jun 21 02:53 |
| schestowitz | nice | Jun 21 02:53 |
| schestowitz | for IRC | Jun 21 02:53 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: It also has no network selector, which is to be expected. Cool wallpaper though. | Jun 21 02:54 |
| schestowitz | are you running it? | Jun 21 02:55 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: I dared to run it, yes. It's surprisingly slow for a greeting screen with two buttons. | Jun 21 02:55 |
| techrights-bot/fn | #Exerscent is a remote olfactory assessment system | Arduino Blog ⚓ https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/06/21/exerscent-is-a-remote-olfactory-assessment-system/ ䷉ #Arduino #Hardware #OpenHardware #Hacking | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/21/#latest | Jun 21 02:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | Exerscent is a remote olfactory assessment system | Arduino Blog | Jun 21 02:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts | Jun 21 02:55 | |
| schestowitz | if it has no network selector, then it is vendor lockin | Jun 21 02:56 |
| schestowitz | and freenode is losing many channels and users | Jun 21 02:56 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: it's beta | Jun 21 02:56 |
| schestowitz | maybe crash reports and debugging data | Jun 21 02:56 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Can't save IRC and FOSS out of walled gardens without a bit of proprietary vendor lock-in. | Jun 21 02:56 |
| schestowitz | maybe they had to rush to this ircd for compatibility with this "app"? | Jun 21 02:57 |
| schestowitz | 5 days after the chaos? | Jun 21 02:57 |
| activelow | and this app was sponsored by the prince too? asking since i can't belive it. | Jun 21 02:57 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: Yes. | Jun 21 02:57 |
| activelow | I do not believe in the story either it was only this christel involved with the deals. | Jun 21 02:58 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Possibly at least partially. The data wipe was still just for the heck of it, it's a separate issue. | Jun 21 02:58 |
| techrights-bot/fn | "Josh and Kurt talk about how our environment affects our behavior, and in turn our level of security. We often ignore what’s happening around us when everything is related." https://opensourcesecurity.io/2021/06/20/episode-276-security-behavior-and-the-environment/ | Jun 21 02:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensourcesecurity.io | Episode 276 – Security, behavior, and the environment – Open Source Security | Jun 21 02:58 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | Writing a Controller for Pod Labels https://kubernetes.io/blog/2021/06/21/writing-a-controller-for-pod-labels/ #kubernetes #server | Jun 21 02:59 |
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| XRevan86 | schestowitz: I cannot say with confidence that they could've achieved the same stuff with Solanum, I just don't know what they even need out of IRCd for IRC.com. | Jun 21 03:00 |
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| techrights-bot/fn | #googlenews is defunct. It keeps enlisting all sorts of #plagiarism hubs instead of actual news sites. Now "Chiang Rai Times". Is anyone at all staffed to curate and check what they syndicate? This is awful neglect. | Jun 21 03:01 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Also considering that the application hasn't updated since last year, it should still connect to IRC.com as a server. But rasengan has already made an announcement with "try it out". | Jun 21 03:01 |
| XRevan86 | I'm curious what is up with that. Is freenode integrated with irc.com on the IRC level now? | Jun 21 03:02 |
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| activelow | *do not believe the story | Jun 21 03:03 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: Clarify which story. | Jun 21 03:04 |
| schestowitz | [02:58] <activelow> I do not believe in the story either it was only this christel involved with the deals. | Jun 21 03:05 |
| schestowitz | pia->ltm->kape->gambling company | Jun 21 03:05 |
| schestowitz | christel seems to have worked for them at one point | Jun 21 03:05 |
| schestowitz | based on the emails, she was eager to as well... needed the money | Jun 21 03:05 |
| activelow | the story told by the staff who resigned and operate libera now | Jun 21 03:05 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: I thought only in freenode, Ltd. on the board. | Jun 21 03:06 |
| schestowitz | of the above four companies, I trust none | Jun 21 03:06 |
| schestowitz | all are dodgy | Jun 21 03:06 |
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| XRevan86 | activelow: Ye mean, that the sell was done by Christel with having the rest of staff at an arm's length? | Jun 21 03:08 |
| techrights-bot/fn | Why is #euipo getting involved in #copyrights at all? https://www.mondaq.com/uk/copyright/1080936/european-union-intellectual-property-office-launches-out-of-commerce-works-portal Overstretching and abusing immunity http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/EUIPO | Jun 21 03:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | European Union Intellectual Property Office Launches Out-of-Commerce Works Portal - Intellectual Property - European Union | Jun 21 03:09 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EUIPO - Techrights | Jun 21 03:09 | |
| activelow | i think they are acting in good faith now, but their stories told and resignation letters aren't plausible | Jun 21 03:09 |
| XRevan86 | I don't have the evidence to the contrary, nor the reason not to trust that. | Jun 21 03:09 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: I think that their side of the story held up much better so far. | Jun 21 03:10 |
| schestowitz | ok, so where do we go from here, re freenode? what is their plan? seems to me they have a sort of a plan, but it did not work out | Jun 21 03:10 |
| schestowitz | they thought they could just herd people over to "apps" and stuff... | Jun 21 03:10 |
| schestowitz | and the app does have trackers | Jun 21 03:10 |
| schestowitz | so maybe Kape et al wanted to do some more 'date brokering' | Jun 21 03:10 |
| schestowitz | with the IRC userbase? | Jun 21 03:11 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Probably not enough trackers for that. | Jun 21 03:11 |
| XRevan86 | The truly abysmal stuff has way-way more. | Jun 21 03:12 |
| techrights-bot/fn | "Cortex-A5 processor running Linux, which could make it the world’s smallest #Linux module." https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/06/14/hanesom-is-a-4-cm2-arm-linux-module-powered-by-microchip-sama5d2-sip/amp/ | Jun 21 03:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | HaneSOM is a 4 cm2 Arm Linux module powered by Microchip SAMA5D2 SiP - CNX Software | Jun 21 03:12 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | #LinuxActionNews 194 https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/145367/linux-action-news-194/ #gnu #linux | Jun 21 03:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jupiterbroadcasting.com | Linux Action News 194 | Jupiter Broadcasting | Jun 21 03:13 | |
| schestowitz | Should I try to speak to Lee? | Jun 21 03:13 |
| schestowitz | maybe I can ask the hard questions... | Jun 21 03:13 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Move the last bot over first. | Jun 21 03:13 |
| techrights-bot/fn | #RasPad 3 Review – Part 2: A #RaspberryPi 4 mini PC with integrated display https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/06/21/raspad-3-review-raspberry-pi-4-mini-pc-with-integrated-display/ | Jun 21 03:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | RasPad 3 Review - Part 2: A Raspberry Pi 4 mini PC with integrated display - CNX Software | Jun 21 03:14 | |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: why? you worry they'd ban me for it? | Jun 21 03:15 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Not really, but he's way too volatile for my liking. | Jun 21 03:15 |
| schestowitz | ah, so better not ask.. | Jun 21 03:16 |
| saint_dogbert/fn | yeah... when I asked him who hosted freenode.net, the possibility of me being k-lined was flaunted | Jun 21 03:17 |
| techrights-bot/fn | Why is the EPO's #greenwashing #propaganda being cites as some sort of credible source? PR is not science. https://mercomindia.com/new-charge-storage-method-rechargeability/ see http://techrights.org/2021/04/27/epo-greenwashing-stunts/ | Jun 21 03:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mercomindia.com | New Charge Storage Method Could Allow Rechargeability in Calcium-Air Batteries - Mercom India | Jun 21 03:18 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EPO Abuses Climate Change, Hijacking or Misusing Grassroots Activism for Corporate Public Relations Stunts | Techrights | Jun 21 03:18 | |
| schestowitz | samiamsam: wow, for that alone? | Jun 21 03:19 |
| schestowitz | maybe he worries about ddos | Jun 21 03:19 |
| schestowitz | maybe they hide some very outdated stack | Jun 21 03:19 |
| schestowitz | it seems to be hosted at http://5.63.147.125/ | Jun 21 03:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Connection timed out after 10001 milliseconds ( status 0 @ http://5.63.147.125/ ) | Jun 21 03:20 | |
| saint_dogbert/fn | something. But yeah, the gist of it was that if I kept asking, I'd be k-lined | Jun 21 03:20 |
| schestowitz | https://www.findip-address.com/ | Jun 21 03:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.findip-address.com | Find IP Address - Lookup and locate an ip address | Jun 21 03:20 | |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Or considers anyone who asks way too many questions an enemy of freedom | Jun 21 03:20 |
| schestowitz | domain100tb.com | Jun 21 03:20 |
| saint_dogbert/fn | I can't get any of the previous staffers to talk about who hosts the site either | Jun 21 03:20 |
| saint_dogbert/fn | and not for a lack of trying | Jun 21 03:20 |
| schestowitz | saint_dogbert it takes less time to answer the question than to issue a threat | Jun 21 03:21 |
| saint_dogbert/fn | strange considering that some of them used to discuss the low level network stuff with me previously | Jun 21 03:21 |
| saint_dogbert/fn | Yep | Jun 21 03:21 |
| schestowitz | apparently for about 5 years it was on http://5.63.147.125/ | Jun 21 03:21 |
| schestowitz | and I guess their http daemon only communicates with clownflare | Jun 21 03:22 |
| XRevan86 | saint_dogbert: Ye mean the Hetzner VPS with webchat? | Jun 21 03:22 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: are you good at IRC toolware [sic]? | Jun 21 03:22 |
| schestowitz | all sorts of little self-hosted bits and bobs? | Jun 21 03:22 |
| schestowitz | because years ago I tried self-hosting webchat for irc | Jun 21 03:22 |
| XRevan86 | saint_dogbert: Because we know where the static part (Jekyll) of the website is hosted: GitHub Pages. | Jun 21 03:22 |
| schestowitz | and dependencies-wise we had issues | Jun 21 03:23 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: I'm more of an XMPP person. | Jun 21 03:23 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: for LC | Jun 21 03:23 |
| saint_dogbert/fn | XRevan86: Then you know much more about it than I do | Jun 21 03:23 |
| schestowitz | also freenode? | Jun 21 03:23 |
| saint_dogbert/fn | ::D | Jun 21 03:23 |
| schestowitz | iirc, only lc | Jun 21 03:23 |
| schestowitz | I still have that code on our server, but chmod 000 | Jun 21 03:23 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Yes, saint_dogbert was asking about LC, so I answered about LC. | Jun 21 03:24 |
| schestowitz | for security reasons, I never got it working properly back then... almost 5 years ago | Jun 21 03:24 |
| schestowitz | LC has many red flags to me | Jun 21 03:24 |
| schestowitz | I'd never fork over a channel to there | Jun 21 03:24 |
| schestowitz | no point | Jun 21 03:24 |
| schestowitz | it'll end up in tears :-) | Jun 21 03:24 |
| schestowitz | BTW, I can make it possible to drop messages into IRC easily | Jun 21 03:25 |
| schestowitz | but it would likely result in spam and abuse | Jun 21 03:25 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: I still think that techrights freenode is on a much shakier ground. | Jun 21 03:25 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: yes, but we're already there | Jun 21 03:25 |
| schestowitz | that's the sole reason | Jun 21 03:25 |
| schestowitz | that's also why I tried defending FN for weeks | Jun 21 03:26 |
| schestowitz | until they hijacked 700 or so channels for 'offending' /topic | Jun 21 03:26 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Yea, but moving every person to self-hosting is a much harder job. | Jun 21 03:27 |
| techrights-bot/fn | #EPO should encourage medicine sharing, not hoarding and patenting, but at the moment it's controlled, by proxy, by litigation firms and their largest clients. https://www.mathys-squire.com/insights-and-events/news/extending-protection-patent-strategies-for-pharmaceutical-products-at-the-epo/ | Jun 21 03:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mathys-squire.com | Extending protection: Patent strategies for pharmaceutical products at the EPO - Mathys & Squire LLP | Jun 21 03:28 | |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: So if techrights had immediately gotten a presence in three networks, I think the freenode side would've emptied out in a matter of weeks. | Jun 21 03:28 |
| techrights-bot/fn | "Section 72 of the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988 (CDPA) creates an exception to copyright infringement that permits the free showing of a broadcast and certain copyright elements in places where the public has free access." https://www.mondaq.com/uk/copyright/1080952/intellectual-property-office-publishes-call-for-views-in-relation-to-a-review-of-the-removal-in-2016-of-the-c <clipped message> | Jun 21 03:28 |
| techrights-bot/fn | opyright-exception-for-showing-publicly | Jun 21 03:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | Intellectual Property Office Publishes Call For Views In Relation To A Review Of The Removal In 2016 Of The Copyright Exception For Showing Publicly Accessible Films - Intellectual Property - UK | Jun 21 03:28 | |
| schestowitz | [03:27] <XRevan86> schestowitz: Yea, but moving every person to self-hosting is a much harder job. | Jun 21 03:29 |
| XRevan86 | And now we're kind of stuck with it now. Some people just won't move to irc.techrights.org | Jun 21 03:29 |
| schestowitz | it is, but centralisation was always easier... in the SHORT RUN | Jun 21 03:29 |
| schestowitz | that's why Twitter and Facebook exist | Jun 21 03:29 |
| schestowitz | or Microsoft grossly overpaid for the BS that's LinkedIn (still layoffs) | Jun 21 03:29 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: you say "emptied" | Jun 21 03:30 |
| schestowitz | but very little comes from FN regardless | Jun 21 03:30 |
| schestowitz | saint_dogbert is one of the few | Jun 21 03:30 |
| schestowitz | and not because we asked for it | Jun 21 03:30 |
| schestowitz | that's just how it happened | Jun 21 03:30 |
| schestowitz | presence in another big network would have impeded autonomy | Jun 21 03:30 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: But we also have less people than before just coming in asking questions. | Jun 21 03:30 |
| schestowitz | we didn't have that many before | Jun 21 03:31 |
| schestowitz | so that's inapplicable | Jun 21 03:31 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: It would've split the influence between the two big networks. Not evenly. | Jun 21 03:31 |
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| schestowitz | those networks are part of the problem | Jun 21 03:32 |
| schestowitz | apps are also a red flag | Jun 21 03:32 |
| schestowitz | I used an android app for irc ages ago as an experiment on a tablet | Jun 21 03:32 |
| schestowitz | techrights is generally not into those "app" so-called 'ecosystems' | Jun 21 03:32 |
| schestowitz | they pose dangers and problems | Jun 21 03:33 |
| schestowitz | they're not so new and innovative either | Jun 21 03:33 |
| schestowitz | except the buzz, like 'Smart" | Jun 21 03:33 |
| CrystalMath | did we used to get a lot of new people coming in? | Jun 21 03:33 |
| CrystalMath | i felt like i'm the only one new in a long time :P | Jun 21 03:33 |
| CrystalMath | and that was years ago | Jun 21 03:33 |
| CrystalMath | also.. | Jun 21 03:33 |
| CrystalMath | i found you on *twitter* :P | Jun 21 03:33 |
| CrystalMath | and i don't even use twitter! | Jun 21 03:33 |
| techrights-bot/fn | #EuropeanCommission in bed with "Big Business" https://www.mondaq.com/uk/trademark/1079198/european-commission-consults-on-eu-wide-geographical-indications-for-non-agricultural-products | Jun 21 03:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | European Commission Consults On EU-wide Geographical Indications For Non-agricultural Products - Intellectual Property - European Union | Jun 21 03:34 | |
| XRevan86 | I feel like the amount of different people that say things reduced considerably. | Jun 21 03:34 |
| CrystalMath | but i saw the tweets through nitter or Twitter Classic™ and i saw you're working for some just causes | Jun 21 03:34 |
| schestowitz | [03:33] <CrystalMath> did we used to get a lot of new people coming in? | Jun 21 03:35 |
| XRevan86 | Anyway, if the existing dependency on freenode is small enough that cutting the cord would barely make a dent, then in this case it's not really a problem. | Jun 21 03:35 |
| schestowitz | people sometimes come in from the site | Jun 21 03:35 |
| schestowitz | social control media also a possibility | Jun 21 03:36 |
| schestowitz | not by running /list on a network | Jun 21 03:36 |
| schestowitz | we used to have people run /list and searching "novell" | Jun 21 03:36 |
| schestowitz | then come to ask us for novell technical support | Jun 21 03:36 |
| schestowitz | obv. that was a major waste of tiem | Jun 21 03:36 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: no, not in this channel | Jun 21 03:36 |
| schestowitz | as many people as before the chaos | Jun 21 03:36 |
| schestowitz | it was almost about a dozen people active | Jun 21 03:37 |
| schestowitz | IRC isn't like Twitter | Jun 21 03:37 |
| schestowitz | the connection between channels is minimal | Jun 21 03:37 |
| schestowitz | not like a 'hashtag' network | Jun 21 03:37 |
| schestowitz | this means that the benefit you get from a massive and wide network aren't the same | Jun 21 03:37 |
| schestowitz | to speak to people you typically need to enter channels where they are first | Jun 21 03:38 |
| schestowitz | sometimes that depends on how the network is set up (to reduce spam/floods) | Jun 21 03:38 |
| XRevan86 | I wonder why superkuh left. He was here at some point. | Jun 21 03:40 |
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| XRevan86 | schestowitz: The problem with giving the freenode side as an example is also that freenode is dying, so it's no longer representative of what it's like to have a presence in a big network. | Jun 21 03:41 |
| techrights-bot/fn | ANDREW ORLOWSKI (I assume same as El Reg one) boosting corrupt #trump and propping up the myth of "intellectual property" with words like "theft". Really disappointing and not too shocking it's in the #TORYgraph https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2021/06/17/silicon-valley-must-not-allowed-steal-britains-biggest-asset/ | Jun 21 03:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.telegraph.co.uk | Silicon Valley must not be allowed to steal Britain’s biggest asset – our brainpower | Jun 21 03:42 | |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: superkuh was never very active | Jun 21 03:43 |
| schestowitz | and also relatively new | Jun 21 03:43 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: But for someone to stay in the channel people set-up a bouncer, and the way people do that varies greatly. | Jun 21 03:43 |
| schestowitz | also, maybe he was banned by FN, who knows... | Jun 21 03:43 |
| schestowitz | IIRC, he was on this network at one point and might come back | Jun 21 03:44 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: I mean on irc.techrights.org | Jun 21 03:44 |
| schestowitz | people who CARE enough about the site come here | Jun 21 03:44 |
| schestowitz | people who care less or don't care won't bother | Jun 21 03:44 |
| schestowitz | it's easier to use a general-purpose network to abuse | Jun 21 03:44 |
| schestowitz | which is what LC can accomplish | Jun 21 03:44 |
| schestowitz | also, just to be clear: | Jun 21 03:45 |
| schestowitz | number of people "online" | Jun 21 03:46 |
| schestowitz | is not number of people active | Jun 21 03:46 |
| schestowitz | being active does not mean contributing | Jun 21 03:46 |
| schestowitz | it can actively detract too | Jun 21 03:46 |
| schestowitz | just like number of Twitter "followers" doesn't tell you anything about number of fakes | Jun 21 03:46 |
| schestowitz | it's easy and cheap to by fakes | Jun 21 03:46 |
| schestowitz | but they would add no real value, just help game some numbers | Jun 21 03:46 |
| schestowitz | for IRC to be useful to us we need high s/n ratio | Jun 21 03:47 |
| schestowitz | and people who care, not "signal" that's just abusive | Jun 21 03:47 |
| schestowitz | like fighting the Google troll | Jun 21 03:47 |
| schestowitz | over things unrelated to tech | Jun 21 03:47 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: I'm curious about how strong the default cloaking is on ergo | Jun 21 03:47 |
| schestowitz | case of point: https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/ | Jun 21 03:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | The Gemini 2021 Archive by thread | Jun 21 03:47 | |
| schestowitz | it used to be very busy | Jun 21 03:47 |
| schestowitz | but busy with total bullshit | Jun 21 03:48 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: As we both know a person that left because they no longer have a cloak. | Jun 21 03:48 |
| schestowitz | now it is moderated, but s/n ratio improves a lot so people aren't put off as much | Jun 21 03:48 |
| schestowitz | leah? | Jun 21 03:49 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Regarding abuse, it's not as clear cut, as troll may get a ban before they reach this channel. | Jun 21 03:49 |
| schestowitz | who gets to decide? | Jun 21 03:49 |
| schestowitz | not you | Jun 21 03:49 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: No, but ye masked their nick when quoting, so I'm not disclosing. | Jun 21 03:49 |
| schestowitz | maybe some politically motivated irc cop | Jun 21 03:49 |
| techrights-bot/fn | "Section 62 of the TM Act mandates that a collective mark shall not be registered if it is likely to deceive or cause confusion on the part of the public and in particular if it is likely to be taken to be something other than a collective mark." https://spicyip.com/2021/06/collective-marks-a-tale-of-collective-confusion-at-the-registry.html | Jun 21 03:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Collective Marks: A Tale of Collective Confusion at the Registry | SpicyIP | Jun 21 03:51 | |
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| schestowitz | "Kluwer Patent Blog featured an interview with Kevin Mooney, one of the movers behind the Unified Patent Court (UPC), concerning the UPC’s fate in light of the constitutional challenge in Germany. Mooney explained why he thinks the current constitutional challenge will not delay Germany’s ratification as much, as the previous constitutional challenge did" | Jun 21 03:52 |
| schestowitz | http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/06/11/kevin-mooney-new-years-of-delay-for-unified-patent-court-unlikely/ | Jun 21 03:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | Kevin Mooney: ‘New years of delay for Unified Patent Court unlikely’ - Kluwer Patent Blog | Jun 21 03:52 | |
| schestowitz | relaying UPC lies | Jun 21 03:52 |
| techrights-bot/fn | Tasteless and disgusting: Using #covid19 to push this Intellectual [sic] Property [sic] #propaganda even though #patents are in fact killing people right now. https://thinkfide.com/the-role-of-ip-in-a-post-crisis-world-global-digital-encounters-vol-1/ | Jun 21 03:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thinkfide.com | The Role of IP in a Post-Crisis World - Global Digital Encounters Vol.1 | Fundacion Fide | Jun 21 03:54 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | This service is maintained by the Federated Networks Association | Jun 21 03:57 |
| schestowitz | It is laughable nonsense -- and outright offensive, I think -- to say "Africa is rising" by basically adopting the very means of colonialism, oppression, extraction and exploitation sheltered behind lies such as Intellectual [sic] Property [sic] Rights [sic] https://www.marques.org/blogs/class46/?XID=BHA5000 | Jun 21 03:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.marques.org | MARQUES | Jun 21 03:58 | |
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| techrights-bot/fn | #SoftwarePatents = worthless #junk https://www.natlawreview.com/article/yu-v-apple-transubstantiation-camera-abstract-idea #swpats #cafc | Jun 21 03:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.natlawreview.com | Fed. Circuit Yu v Apple Specialized Camera Claim Patent-Ineligible | Jun 21 03:59 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | There's no such thing as "AI patents"; they're software patents disguised using superficial and usually misplaced buzzwords https://www.natlawreview.com/article/did-ai-patents-help-avev-related-companies-get-acquired-apple see http://techrights.org/2021/06/17/heli-pihlajamaa-swpats/ | Jun 21 04:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.natlawreview.com | Apple Bought the Most AI Companies: Especially EV/AV Related | Jun 21 04:01 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Heli Pihlajamaa Promoting Software Patents to Patent Maximalists | Techrights | Jun 21 04:02 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | Growing recognition that some #patents simply kill people. Waivers aren't the answer. Those #patent #monopolies should be tossed out and not get granted in the first place. https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/wto-intensify-talks-easing-access-covid-19-vaccines-78174537 | Jun 21 04:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-abcnews.go.com | WTO to intensify talks on easing access to COVID-19 vaccines - ABC News | Jun 21 04:03 | |
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| techrights-bot/fn | Some #patents simple ought not exist. They kill. https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/u-s-encouraged-by-progress-toward-vaccine-patent-waiver-1.5457706 #monopolies #patent #covid19 | Jun 21 04:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ctvnews.ca | Coronavirus: U.S. encouraged by progress toward vaccine patent waiver | CTV News | Jun 21 04:04 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | #patent #litigation in #canada https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20210610005852/en/DeepRoot’s-Silva-Cell-Wins-Patent-Infringement-Case-Against-GreenBlue-Urban | Jun 21 04:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.businesswire.com | DeepRoot’s Silva Cell Wins Patent Infringement Case Against GreenBlue Urban | Business Wire | Jun 21 04:05 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | #Techrights Bulletin for Sunday, June 20, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext | Jun 21 04:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives | Jun 21 04:06 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing | Jun 21 04:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index | Jun 21 04:06 | |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: the harder freenode shoots itself in the foot, the more fruitful IRC becomes for us | Jun 21 04:08 |
| schestowitz | across all networks | Jun 21 04:08 |
| schestowitz | people who left for a lack of cloak can get it here | Jun 21 04:08 |
| schestowitz | it's still a young network | Jun 21 04:08 |
| CrystalMath | oh, techrights is handing out cloaks? | Jun 21 04:08 |
| schestowitz | as for irc.com/FN, I'm merely observing now but it looks like a plan that was too optimistic | Jun 21 04:09 |
| CrystalMath | can i get devil/advocate/CrystalMath? :P | Jun 21 04:09 |
| schestowitz | CrystalMath: we already obfuscate IPs | Jun 21 04:09 |
| CrystalMath | i'm just joking | Jun 21 04:09 |
| schestowitz | it wasn't like that before | Jun 21 04:09 |
| schestowitz | ergo had the option | Jun 21 04:09 |
| CrystalMath | freenode also automatically obfuscates IPs | Jun 21 04:09 |
| CrystalMath | as does rizon | Jun 21 04:09 |
| schestowitz | in the past we'd manually wipe IPs for people who asked for it | Jun 21 04:09 |
| schestowitz | no, freenode shows them | Jun 21 04:09 |
| schestowitz | even hostnames | Jun 21 04:10 |
| schestowitz | worse | Jun 21 04:10 |
| CrystalMath | what? | Jun 21 04:10 |
| schestowitz | it used to do hexadecimal for mibbit iirc | Jun 21 04:10 |
| CrystalMath | have you checked the new freenode? | Jun 21 04:10 |
| schestowitz | maybe freenode does it differently now | Jun 21 04:10 |
| CrystalMath | yeah, inspircd | Jun 21 04:10 |
| CrystalMath | mode +x :) | Jun 21 04:10 |
| CrystalMath | it's default! | Jun 21 04:10 |
| CrystalMath | as is +i | Jun 21 04:10 |
| CrystalMath | but without +I people can see what channels you are on unless they are +s | Jun 21 04:10 |
| schestowitz | [02:55] <-- freed00m (~freed00m_@freenode-v2p.o8c.cufafo.IP) has left this channel ("Leaving"). | Jun 21 04:10 |
| CrystalMath | yep | Jun 21 04:11 |
| CrystalMath | freenode now autocloaks everyone, even unregistered users! | Jun 21 04:11 |
| CrystalMath | registered users get freenode/user/username | Jun 21 04:11 |
| schestowitz | could make it hard to write ban rules | Jun 21 04:11 |
| CrystalMath | nope, it's a one-to-one hash | Jun 21 04:11 |
| schestowitz | I see | Jun 21 04:11 |
| CrystalMath | also i think it's in pieces so you could actually get subnets as well | Jun 21 04:12 |
| CrystalMath | not sure about that, need to read the InspIRCd manual | Jun 21 04:12 |
| CrystalMath | but i mean, InspIRCd is no joke | Jun 21 04:12 |
| CrystalMath | irc.techrights.org's cloaking system does make bans harder as subnets cannot be extracted | Jun 21 04:13 |
| techrights-bot/fn | Dozens of puff pieces these past few days from English-speaking Indian press for corrupt #EPO management. Who was paid and how much? http://techrights.org/2021/05/04/epo-eia-hush-money/ | Jun 21 04:13 |
| CrystalMath | but you can still do specific-IP bans | Jun 21 04:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO Already Wasting Money on Media Manipulation Campaigns for European Inventor Award | Techrights | Jun 21 04:13 | |
| CrystalMath | and i mean, you're operred here, so like, you CAN see the real IKP | Jun 21 04:13 |
| CrystalMath | *IP | Jun 21 04:13 |
| CrystalMath | you can also k-line | Jun 21 04:13 |
| CrystalMath | so i think both freenode and irc.techrights.org have got things covered | Jun 21 04:14 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Jun 21 04:15 |
| schestowitz | btw, why is freenode so quiet in general? | Jun 21 04:15 |
| schestowitz | I mean, I would not be surprised if activity there is like 10% what it was a month ago? | Jun 21 04:15 |
| schestowitz | Irrespective of who is online | Jun 21 04:16 |
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| CrystalMath | well, the great reset knocked out the matrix bridge and lots of people | Jun 21 04:17 |
| CrystalMath | plus i think everyone is active on #freenode :P | Jun 21 04:18 |
| CrystalMath | but freenode is down to about 30k | Jun 21 04:18 |
| CrystalMath | before the reset it was 50k | Jun 21 04:18 |
| CrystalMath | and i don't see any compensation for those 20k - no network grew by this much, so | Jun 21 04:19 |
| CrystalMath | it must be matrix users | Jun 21 04:19 |
| CrystalMath | which are now on matrix only | Jun 21 04:19 |
| schestowitz | tough luck, eh? Should have thought of that... | Jun 21 04:22 |
| schestowitz | they ruined my tuesday and beyond | Jun 21 04:22 |
| schestowitz | it's only now, 20 minutes ago, that I finally caught up | Jun 21 04:22 |
| schestowitz | I said it would take me until Monday to catch up fully | Jun 21 04:23 |
| schestowitz | I lost tons of hours due to their chaos | Jun 21 04:23 |
| schestowitz | but they are free to break their own network | Jun 21 04:23 |
| schestowitz | free as in freenode | Jun 21 04:23 |
| schestowitz | I'd be a lot more pissed off if I had devoted my life to being freenode staff/volunteer | Jun 21 04:24 |
| schestowitz | CrystalMath: what do you code in? | Jun 21 04:24 |
| schestowitz | maybe we can do some irc projects... | Jun 21 04:24 |
| CrystalMath | C | Jun 21 04:25 |
| CrystalMath | mostly C, sometimes assembly | Jun 21 04:25 |
| KindOne/fn | 25k matrix | Jun 21 04:25 |
| schestowitz/fn | (from FN) IRC can be enhanced | Jun 21 04:25 |
| schestowitz/fn | and tailor-made for projects | Jun 21 04:26 |
| schestowitz/fn | for instance, notifications for git actions | Jun 21 04:26 |
| schestowitz/fn | irc is very hookable | Jun 21 04:26 |
| CrystalMath | already exists :P | Jun 21 04:26 |
| schestowitz/fn | I'm sure that exists | Jun 21 04:26 |
| CrystalMath | and freenode is kinda doing something like that with a new API | Jun 21 04:26 |
| schestowitz/fn | kafka (apache) can also play its role | Jun 21 04:26 |
| schestowitz/fn | Lee's "chit" is one example | Jun 21 04:27 |
| schestowitz/fn | but primitive and rather useless imho | Jun 21 04:27 |
| MinceR | CrystalMath: custom vhosts are available, i've set one for myself, i can set one for you as well. but i don't know if ergo likes slashes in them. | Jun 21 04:29 |
| MinceR | 21 051141 < CrystalMath> nope, it's a one-to-one hash | Jun 21 04:30 |
| techrights-bot/fn | ● NEWS ● #uniToronto #Kernel ☞ The Unix background of Linux's 'file-max' and nr_open kernel limits on file descriptors https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/unix/TwoFileDescriptorLimits | Jun 21 04:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-utcc.utoronto.ca | Chris's Wiki :: blog/unix/TwoFileDescriptorLimits | Jun 21 04:30 | |
| MinceR | could still be an issue for ranges | Jun 21 04:30 |
| CrystalMath | MinceR: i think inspircd uses those dots for networks | Jun 21 04:30 |
| CrystalMath | and subnets | Jun 21 04:30 |
| CrystalMath | but still hashes them safely | Jun 21 04:30 |
| CrystalMath | so the actual hash | Jun 21 04:30 |
| CrystalMath | of the last part of the address | Jun 21 04:30 |
| CrystalMath | does depend on the previous parts | Jun 21 04:30 |
| CrystalMath | but still, the previous parts will hash to the same thing | Jun 21 04:31 |
| CrystalMath | i think that's how it works, | Jun 21 04:31 |
| CrystalMath | that's what i would do :) | Jun 21 04:31 |
| techrights-bot/fn | ● NEWS ● #uniToronto ☞ A bit on ZFS's coming raidz expansion and #ZFS DVAs https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/solaris/ZFSRaidzExpansionAndDVAs | Jun 21 04:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-utcc.utoronto.ca | Chris's Wiki :: blog/solaris/ZFSRaidzExpansionAndDVAs | Jun 21 04:31 | |
| MinceR | still, you can't do a whois query to find out how big the subnet is | Jun 21 04:31 |
| techrights-bot/fn | ● NEWS ● #KevQuirk ☞ Building A Self-Hosted Journal https://kevq.uk/building-a-self-hosted-journal/ | Jun 21 04:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kevq.uk | Building A Self-Hosted Journal - Kev Quirk | Jun 21 04:31 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | ● NEWS ● #DataSwamp ☞ Using the #I2P network with #OpenBSD and #NixOS https://dataswamp.org/~solene/2021-06-20-i2p-intro.html | Jun 21 04:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dataswamp.org | Solene's percent % : Using the I2P network with OpenBSD and NixOS | Jun 21 04:31 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: an afterthought :-) | Jun 21 04:33 |
| schestowitz | we'll see how they cope | Jun 21 04:33 |
| schestowitz | if freenode becomes "great again" | Jun 21 04:33 |
| schestowitz | for now it's small enough | Jun 21 04:33 |
| MinceR | well, you can still broaden the ban as the abuser changes addresses | Jun 21 04:33 |
| MinceR | and nowadays they seem to abuse proxies/vpns/exit nodes more than DDNS | Jun 21 04:34 |
| schestowitz | wildcards can be harder | Jun 21 04:34 |
| MinceR | s/DDNS/dynamic addresses/ | Jun 21 04:34 |
| techrights-bot/fn | ● NEWS ● #EerieLinux #BSD ☞ Advance!BSD – thoughts on a not-for-profit project to support *BSD (1/2) https://eerielinux.wordpress.com/2021/06/20/advancebsd-thoughts-on-a-not-for-profit-project-to-support-bsd-1-2/ | Jun 21 04:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-eerielinux.wordpress.com | Advance!BSD – thoughts on a not-for-profit project to support *BSD (1/2) | eerielinux | Jun 21 04:35 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | ● NEWS ● #EerieLinux #BSD ☞ Advance!BSD – thoughts on a not-for-profit project to support *BSD (2/2) https://eerielinux.wordpress.com/2021/06/20/advancebsd-thoughts-on-a-not-for-profit-project-to-support-bsd-2-2/ | Jun 21 04:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-eerielinux.wordpress.com | Advance!BSD – thoughts on a not-for-profit project to support *BSD (2/2) | eerielinux | Jun 21 04:35 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | ● NEWS ● #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights ☞ Record Labels Want YouTube Rippers to Log and Share User Data https://torrentfreak.com/record-labels-want-youtube-rippers-to-log-and-share-user-data-210620/ | Jun 21 04:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Record Labels Want YouTube Rippers to Log and Share User Data * TorrentFreak | Jun 21 04:38 | |
| schestowitz | I know it's dumb question | Jun 21 04:40 |
| schestowitz | but can you make a browser toggle down to bottom of page for a text file? | Jun 21 04:40 |
| schestowitz | with no "#" in it? | Jun 21 04:40 |
| schestowitz | and no js (obs., plain txt) | Jun 21 04:40 |
| schestowitz | maybe an iframe option? | Jun 21 04:41 |
| schestowitz | https://www.w3schools.com/tags/tag_iframe.ASP | Jun 21 04:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.w3schools.com | HTML iframe tag | Jun 21 04:41 | |
| schestowitz | oh, style works with iframe | Jun 21 04:45 |
| schestowitz | didn't know that | Jun 21 04:45 |
| schestowitz | Now it looks a tad better http://techrights.org/irc-channel/ | Jun 21 04:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Channels | Techrights | Jun 21 04:48 | |
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| schestowitz | those are me | Jun 21 04:50 |
| schestowitz | just testing the above page | Jun 21 04:50 |
| schestowitz | freenode broke some things | Jun 21 04:50 |
| schestowitz | 1. my ip seems banned | Jun 21 04:50 |
| schestowitz | (or rate-limited) | Jun 21 04:50 |
| schestowitz | 2. syntax changed | Jun 21 04:50 |
| schestowitz | need to add "#" in parameter for channel/s to enter | Jun 21 04:50 |
| schestowitz | we're going to see how far we can stretch irc in its self-hosted glory | Jun 21 04:51 |
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| schestowitz | just add to update to CHAT.freenode in gemini and www | Jun 21 04:52 |
| MinceR | mind you, webchats do encode their ipv4 address as hexadecimal into the username and everyone sees that | Jun 21 04:52 |
| techrights-bot/fn | Made some fine improvements, mostly visual ones, to http://techrights.org/irc-channel/ #techrights #irc | Jun 21 04:53 |
| MinceR | (i have yet to see anyone use a webchat over ipv6, so i don't know what happens then) | Jun 21 04:53 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: true, I've only just noticed | Jun 21 04:54 |
| schestowitz | for both mibbit and kiwiirc | Jun 21 04:54 |
| MinceR | so if you want some user to leak anonymously, they should use a real client :> | Jun 21 04:55 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▆▇▆▅▅▅▅▆▆▇▇▄█▆▄▃▅▆▇▆▆▇▃▆▆▅▃▄▄▄▆▆▁ avg(k/sec) 36.10 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▂▂▁▂▂▁▃▁▂▃▂▂▃▂▁▁▂▂▂▂▂▂▁▁▂▂▂▁▁▂▂▂▁ avg(k/sec) 21.78▕ swarm size (avg): 302.15 ⟲ | Jun 21 04:59 |
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| schestowitz | wow, a lot can be accomplished with css and inframes | Jun 21 05:34 |
| schestowitz | no JS | Jun 21 05:34 |
| schestowitz | like translucent floats | Jun 21 05:34 |
| schestowitz | testing it now in http://techrights.org/videos/ | Jun 21 05:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full Videos Index | Jun 21 05:35 | |
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| schestowitz | look ma! No JavaScript (video frame within a page): http://techrights.org/videos/ | Jun 21 05:44 |
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| techrights-bot/fn | ● NEWS ● #CounterPunch #Privacy ☞ Bad Data: Dancing Your Way To Digital Privacy https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/06/20/bad-data-dancing-your-way-to-digital-privacy/ | Jun 21 05:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bad Data: Dancing Your Way To Digital Privacy - CounterPunch.org | Jun 21 05:51 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | ● NEWS ● #KenShirriff #OpenHardware ☞ Inside a transistorized shift register box, built in 1965 for Apollo testing http://www.righto.com/2021/06/inside-transistorized-shift-register.html | Jun 21 05:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.righto.com | Inside a transistorized shift register box, built in 1965 for Apollo testing | Jun 21 05:52 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▆▃▄▆▇▅▄▅▇▄▅▅▆▆▄▅▃▄▆▅▅▅▆▅▆▇▄▅▆▂▅▅▇▃▄▁ avg(k/sec) 28.41 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▁▂▂▁▁▂▂▁▂▂▂▂▁▁▂▂▃▁▂▂▂▁▂▁▂▁▂▁▂▂▁▁▂▂▂▁▁ avg(k/sec) 5.90▕ swarm size (avg): 302.61 ⟲ | Jun 21 05:59 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▇▅▅▅▆▅▄▅▆▇▄▂▄▇▁▂▃▇▆▅▆▄▂▃▅▄▃▅▅▅▇▄▁ avg(k/sec) 27.65 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▁▂▂▃▁▂▂▂▁▂▁▂▂▁▁█▁▂▂▂▃▂▁▂▁▁▂▁▁▂▃▁▂▂▁▁ avg(k/sec) 22.31▕ swarm size (avg): 303.16 ⟲ | Jun 21 06:59 |
| CrystalMath | schestowitz: https://www.lunduke.com/2021/06/vaccine-passport-company-the-linux-foundation-requires-using-their-vaccine-passport-system-for-all-open-source-events | Jun 21 07:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Vaccine Passport company, “The Linux Foundation”, requires using their Vaccine Passport system for all Open Source events – The Lunduke Journal of Technology | Jun 21 07:16 | |
| CrystalMath | scoop | Jun 21 07:16 |
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| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▆▅▇▅▆▅▅▅▅▃▄▄▅▆▆▆▅▄▅▆▆▇▅▄▆▆▅▆▅▆▁▆▄▅▁ avg(k/sec) 30.50 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▁▂▂▁▁▂▂▂▃▁▂▂▂▂▃▂▂▂▁▂▁▂▂▂▁▂▃▂▂▃▃█▂▁▂▁ avg(k/sec) 9.00▕ swarm size (avg): 304.17 ⟲ | Jun 21 07:59 |
| techrights-bot/fn | ● NEWS ● #ChristineDodrill #Shell ☞ waifud Plans https://christine.website/blog/waifud-plans-2021-06-19 | Jun 21 08:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-christine.website | waifud Plans - Christine Dodrill | Jun 21 08:00 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | ● NEWS ● #RobertOCallahan #Hardware ☞ Spectre Mitigations Murder *Userspace* Performance In The Presence Of Frequent Syscalls https://robert.ocallahan.org/2021/06/spectre-mitigations-murder-userspace.html | Jun 21 08:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-robert.ocallahan.org | Eyes Above The Waves: Spectre Mitigations Murder *Userspace* Performance In The Presence Of Frequent Syscalls | Jun 21 08:00 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | ● NEWS ● #Databases ☞ What Every Programmer Should Know About SSDs http://databasearchitects.blogspot.com/2021/06/what-every-programmer-should-know-about.html | Jun 21 08:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-databasearchitects.blogspot.com | Database Architects: What Every Programmer Should Know About SSDs | Jun 21 08:01 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | #Microsoft #Windows TCO: ● #CyberScoop #ProprietarySoftware ☞ 'That horse has left the barn': Secret Service official says ransom payments have fueled [cracking] sprees https://www.cyberscoop.com/ransomware-secret-service-cyber-talks/ | Jun 21 08:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-'That horse has left the barn': Secret Service official says ransom payments have fueled hacking sprees - CyberScoop | Jun 21 08:03 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | ● NEWS ● #CyberScoop #Surveillance #Privacy ☞ As vaccine passports morph into digital IDs, privacy advocates want to know that user data is protected https://www.cyberscoop.com/vaccine-passport-ibm-apple-digital-drivers-license/ | Jun 21 08:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-As vaccine passports morph into digital IDs, privacy advocates want to know that user data is protected - CyberScoop | Jun 21 08:05 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | ● NEWS ● #TimesHigherEducation #Surveillance #Privacy ☞ Universities overreacting to online cheating, experts warn https://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/universities-overreacting-online-cheating-experts-warn | Jun 21 08:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.timeshighereducation.com | Universities overreacting to online cheating, experts warn | Times Higher Education (THE) | Jun 21 08:05 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▆▅▅▆▅▅▆▅▆▅▅▆▃▄▅▅▅▂▂▄▅▇▇▅▄▅▆▆▅▂▆▄▅▁ avg(k/sec) 27.58 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▁▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▁▂▃▂▃▂▂▁█▁▃▁▂▁▂▂▁▂▂▂▂▁▂▃▃▁ avg(k/sec) 9.90▕ swarm size (avg): 304.73 ⟲ | Jun 21 08:59 |
| techrights-bot/fn | ● NEWS ● #InternetSociety #isoc #internet ☞ #Zambia Needs the Internet More than Ever https://www.internetsociety.org/blog/2021/06/zambia-needs-the-internet-more-than-ever/ | Jun 21 09:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.internetsociety.org | Zambia Needs the Internet More than Ever | Internet Society | Jun 21 09:11 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | When you realise your home is controlled remotely https://www.wfaa.com/mobile/article/news/local/texas/remote-thermostat-adjustment-texas-energy-shortage/285-5acf2bc5-54b7-4160-bffe-1f9a5ef4362a | Jun 21 09:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-'Woke up sweating': Some Texans shocked to find their smart thermostats were raised remotely | wfaa.com | Jun 21 09:21 | |
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| techrights-bot/fn | #esp32 https://odysee.com/@AndreasSpiess:2/test-of-battery-operated-esp32-boards:f | Jun 21 09:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-odysee.com | Test of Battery operated ESP32 Boards (Olimex, TinyPICO, EzSBC, TTGO) | Jun 21 09:40 | |
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| techrights-bot/fn | The systematic registration of IP addresses of users and the communication of their names and postal addresses to the holder of [monopolies] or to a third party in order to enable an action for damages to be brought is permissible https://curia.europa.eu/jcms/upload/docs/application/pdf/2021-06/cp210105en.pdf | Jun 21 09:48 |
| techrights-bot/fn | "The headline at WFAA reads: 'Woke up sweating': Some Texans shocked to find their smart thermostats were raised remotely" https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=21/06/19/0447209 | Jun 21 09:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-soylentnews.org | Texans' Smart Thermostats Raised Remotely - SoylentNews | Jun 21 09:50 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | "A new investigative story in The Markup by Dara Kerr and Maddy Varner reveals a vast corporate dark-money operation that spent millions to make Uber and Lyft seem like paragons of racial justice." https://mamot.fr/@pluralistic/106434516111694538 | Jun 21 09:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mamot.fr | Cory Doctorow's linkblog: "A new investigative story in The Markup by Dara K…" - La Quadrature du Net - Mastodon - Media Fédéré | Jun 21 09:54 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | "I'm concerned about a few things with modern development, and this is why my languages of choice right now are lua, python, and C; with Forth and Lisp in the "would like to use more ideas from" area:" https://hackers.town/@mjd/106437663222347557 | Jun 21 10:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Happy Fun Ball :amiga:: "I'm concerned about a few things with modern deve…" - hackers.town | Jun 21 10:02 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | "Out of curiosity, I set up an #IPSec roadwarrior VPN on #OpenBSD -current. The last time I did this was many years ago." https://mastodon.social/@_xhr_/106444015927638523= | Jun 21 10:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mastodon.social | Matthias Schmidt: "Out of curiosity, I set up an #IPSec roadwarrior …" - Mastodon | Jun 21 10:03 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | Rob Pike https://pleroma.bubbletea.dev/objects/13ba31cb-8bd0-4156-a67a-34e9f4810fec | Jun 21 10:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleroma.bubbletea.dev | bubbletea.dev | Jun 21 10:06 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | #9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: June 20th, 2021 • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152503 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 21 10:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: June 20th, 2021 | Tux Machines | Jun 21 10:15 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 #IRC Proceedings: Sunday, June 20, 2021 • ᴛᴇᴄʜʀɪɢʜᴛꜱ ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/06/21/irc-log-200621/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/21/irc-log-200621/ | Jun 21 10:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Sunday, June 20, 2021 | Techrights | Jun 21 10:16 | |
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| techrights-bot/fn | "Linus Torvalds has kind of a reputation. He doesn't put up with people saying things he doesn't like and he's known for calling offenders out. Well, someone promoted some baseless conspiracy theories on the Linux Kernel Mailing List and Linus wasn't having any of it. This is the story. " https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAqadEHISNM | Jun 21 10:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The return of GOOD Linus? - YouTube | Jun 21 10:23 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | Full Circle Weekly News #215 https://fullcirclemagazine.org/podcast/full-circle-weekly-news-215/ #gnu #linux | Jun 21 10:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fullcirclemagazine.org | Full Circle Weekly News #215 | Full Circle Magazine | Jun 21 10:25 | |
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| techrights-bot/fn | Slides and videos of Bootlin talks at Live Embedded Event #2 https://bootlin.com/blog/slides-and-videos-of-bootlin-talks-at-live-embedded-event-2/ #bootlin #linux | Jun 21 10:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Slides and videos of Bootlin talks at Live Embedded Event #2 - Bootlin's blog | Jun 21 10:29 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | Audiocasts/Shows: Full Circle Weekly News, ’The return of GOOD Linus’, Linux Action News, and Josh Bressers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152504 | Jun 21 10:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Audiocasts/Shows: Full Circle Weekly News, 'The return of GOOD Linus', Linux Action News, and Josh Bressers | Tux Machines | Jun 21 10:36 | |
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| techrights-bot/fn | For a change, most of these are #freesw https://www.fossmint.com/google-chrome-alternatives/ | Jun 21 11:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fossmint.com | 7 Best Alternatives for Google Chrome Browser | Jun 21 11:13 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | Replace man pages with Tealdeer on Linux • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152505 | Jun 21 11:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Replace man pages with Tealdeer on Linux | Tux Machines | Jun 21 11:14 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | #Unvanquished 0.52.1 Brings Rendering Fixes, Flatpak For This Promising Open-Source Game - Phoronix ⚓ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Unvanquished-0.52.1-Released ䷉ #Phoronix #games #freesw 🐧 | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/21/#latest | Jun 21 11:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Unvanquished 0.52.1 Brings Rendering Fixes, Flatpak For This Promising Open-Source Game - Phoronix | Jun 21 11:15 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts | Jun 21 11:15 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | How stupid it is to outsource this to #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware #github after what Microsoft did to #opendocument https://blog.documentfoundation.org/ #deletegithut | Jun 21 11:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.documentfoundation.org | The Document Foundation Blog - The home of LibreOffice | Jun 21 11:17 | |
| immibis | > githut | Jun 21 11:17 |
| techrights-bot/fn | #ibm / #redhat propping up buzzwords and nonsense (usually the type that increases workload and reduces pay) https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2021/6/gitops-explained-plain-english | Jun 21 11:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | How to explain GitOps in plain English | The Enterprisers Project | Jun 21 11:19 | |
| schestowitz | lol, oops | Jun 21 11:20 |
| schestowitz | sourcehut+microsoft | Jun 21 11:20 |
| schestowitz | =github | Jun 21 11:20 |
| schestowitz | =>githut | Jun 21 11:20 |
| techrights-bot/fn | #RasPad 3 Review – Part 2: A Raspberry Pi 4 mini PC with integrated display • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152506 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 21 12:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | RasPad 3 Review – Part 2: A Raspberry Pi 4 mini PC with integrated display | Tux Machines | Jun 21 12:13 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | Linux for Starters: Your Guide to Linux – Navigating the Desktop – Part 6 • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152507 | Jun 21 12:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux for Starters: Your Guide to Linux – Navigating the Desktop – Part 6 | Tux Machines | Jun 21 12:13 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | Why transparency is critical to your open source project’s security • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152508 | Jun 21 12:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why transparency is critical to your open source project's security | Tux Machines | Jun 21 12:14 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | Jim Hall: How Do You Fedora? • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152509 | Jun 21 12:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Jim Hall: How Do You Fedora? | Tux Machines | Jun 21 12:14 | |
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| activelow | https://www.dw.com/en/bitcoin-dips-sharply-as-china-broadens-ban/a-57977460 | Jun 21 12:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bitcoin dips sharply as China broadens ban | News | DW | 21.06.2021 | Jun 21 12:37 | |
| schestowitz | :-) | Jun 21 12:38 |
| *psydroid has American Dreams of blogging on Github and Linkedin | Jun 21 12:59 | |
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| activelow | https://the-tech-tin.com/2021/06/sony-wins-pirate-site-blocking-order-against-dns-resolver-quad9/ | Jun 21 13:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-the-tech-tin.com | Sony Wins Pirate Site Blocking Order Against DNS-Resolver Quad9 | Jun 21 13:03 | |
| activelow | "This is not the first blocking order against a third-party online intermediary in Germany." | Jun 21 13:03 |
| activelow | Initially "DNS filters" were proposed and enforced by CDU Germany year 2009, Ursula van der Leyen (now head of EU commision), with the argument of law enforcement against heavy crimes | Jun 21 13:06 |
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| techrights-bot/fn | #IPFire 2.25 - Core Update 157 released • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152510 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 21 13:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IPFire 2.25 - Core Update 157 released | Tux Machines | Jun 21 13:18 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | #KTorrent : An Incredibly Useful BitTorrent Application by KDE • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152511 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 21 13:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KTorrent: An Incredibly Useful BitTorrent Application by KDE | Tux Machines | Jun 21 13:18 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | #Google #Android Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152512 #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 21 13:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 21 13:19 | |
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| immibis | activelow: this is the wrong layer to be fighting this issue, the problem is copyright | Jun 21 13:24 |
| immibis | i am (for now) fine with blocking things like child porn. but copyrighted content should not be treated like child porn | Jun 21 13:26 |
| immibis | that is the issue | Jun 21 13:26 |
| activelow | don't know where to begin with my argument | Jun 21 13:27 |
| activelow | conflating heavy crimes with any objection to mass surveillance is their communication strategy | Jun 21 13:27 |
| activelow | it is the entire legal framework in place now: "network infiltration law" (Netzwerkdurchsetzungsgesetz), "sanction deligitimization of the government", "mandatory non-anonymous registration with online services", "sanctioning hate-speech" | Jun 21 13:39 |
| immibis | wait, why is sanctioning hate speech your end goal? It should be something like spying on everyone's porn use, or making tor illegal | Jun 21 13:40 |
| activelow | thy do not intend to sanction hate-speech, they intend to sanction everything which poses a threat to government and their pockets | Jun 21 13:41 |
| immibis | banning nazis is not inherently a bad thing | Jun 21 13:41 |
| immibis | it's really the only good reaction to nazis | Jun 21 13:41 |
| Ariadne | personally i recommend using a baseball bat | Jun 21 13:42 |
| activelow | the political organizations which agitate in germany and are portrayed as "Nazi" are false flag anyway, it is government agents themselves who both supervise and control political extremist fringe | Jun 21 13:43 |
| immibis | government agents from extremist fringe parties, yes | Jun 21 13:45 |
| gustaf | sorry to have to break it to you activelow but "lawful intercept" has been a thing for decades | Jun 21 13:56 |
| activelow | gustaf: *mass* surveillance is not compliant with "lawful interception" | Jun 21 13:56 |
| gustaf | hmmm that's a good point | Jun 21 13:59 |
| immibis | blocking is also not mass surveillance | Jun 21 14:00 |
| immibis | they could mass surveil those who are blocked but they could also do that without blocking them; they are orthogonal issues | Jun 21 14:01 |
| gustaf | I wonder if the opposition to do anything meaningful about corporate mass surveillance is to inure the public about *gov* mass surveilance | Jun 21 14:01 |
| activelow | the "network infiltration law" doesn't at least distinguish network infrastructure and services, it is a rubbish for this reason alone | Jun 21 14:01 |
| activelow | "lawful interception" applied to network infrastructure, with services it is content regulation, different things | Jun 21 14:04 |
| activelow | on the contrary it remains open to discuss how to cope with those business entities who violate constitutional rights with their services provided | Jun 21 14:11 |
| activelow | tracking and spying on everything is a severe violation of constitution | Jun 21 14:12 |
| activelow | which is "privacy of correspondence, posts and telecommunications", and even if a service provider or network operator asked for consent to violate it such was void since constitutional guarantees are not overruled by Facebook terms of services for example | Jun 21 14:15 |
| techrights-bot/fn | Techrights Video Gallery Without #JavaScript • ᴛᴇᴄʜʀɪɢʜᴛꜱ ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/06/21/video-no-javascript/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/21/video-no-javascript/ | Jun 21 14:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Video Gallery Without JavaScript | Techrights | Jun 21 14:17 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | Just now from apt-get: "Debian no longer supports UEFI Secure Boot on arm64 systems" #ibm #redhat on #ProprietarySoftware #microsoft #github is screwing all distros using this attack on booting freedom. Screw IBM+Microsoft. | Jun 21 14:20 |
| gustaf | public is generally fine with it tho | Jun 21 14:21 |
| schestowitz | just lost 20-minute video | Jun 21 14:23 |
| schestowitz | due to microphone deciding to not work | Jun 21 14:23 |
| schestowitz | pulseaudio issues it seems | Jun 21 14:23 |
| gustaf | :( | Jun 21 14:23 |
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| schestowitz | Couldn't create pulseaudio client: No valid directory for Pulse RuntimePath found | Jun 21 14:27 |
| schestowitz | this is rubbish | Jun 21 14:27 |
| activelow | haven't had any problem with ALSA, although configuration isn't trivial always. should be possible to configure even with the presence of pulseaudio | Jun 21 14:31 |
| activelow | depends on how some libraries and applications were compiled | Jun 21 14:31 |
| schestowitz | solved! at last. | Jun 21 14:33 |
| MinceR | lol pulseaudio | Jun 21 14:44 |
| immibis | welcome to open source software, windows doesn't need a pulse runtimepath | Jun 21 14:48 |
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| XRevan86 | Windows is beyond the mortal needs for paths. | Jun 21 14:49 |
| immibis | windows has all kinds of problems but that is not one | Jun 21 14:50 |
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| MinceR | yeah! | Jun 21 15:27 |
| MinceR | poettering could code shitty software and release it as "open source", therefore all "open source" is bad | Jun 21 15:27 |
| MinceR | that's how it works, right? | Jun 21 15:27 |
| XRevan86 | immibis: Software on Windows always handles gracefully the situation when something it expects doesn't exist. | Jun 21 15:27 |
| immibis | XRevan86: okay but there are also less of those situations, primarily because it's less customizable | Jun 21 15:28 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 21 15:28 |
| immibis | if windows is unable to connect to the audio server, you badly fucked up your installation and you should restart your computer or reinstall | Jun 21 15:28 |
| MinceR | if windows fails, it's your fault | Jun 21 15:28 |
| immibis | probably by deleting random files from system32 | Jun 21 15:28 |
| MinceR | if poetteringaudio fails, it's "open source"'s fault | Jun 21 15:29 |
| MinceR | funny how it works | Jun 21 15:29 |
| immibis | MinceR: this kind of thing is inherent to loosely coupled systems | Jun 21 15:29 |
| MinceR | better put on the gimp suit and hand comrade nadella the whip, then | Jun 21 15:29 |
| immibis | on windows you can just assume the audio stack is there, on linux you have to search for it | Jun 21 15:29 |
| MinceR | you can assume many things on windows and you'll be surprised often | Jun 21 15:30 |
| MinceR | also, mozilla already assumes that poetteringaudio is there on "linux" | Jun 21 15:30 |
| MinceR | what's the point in learning how to design software properly when you can just fuck it up and blame everything on the user | Jun 21 15:32 |
| MinceR | "it works on my machine" | Jun 21 15:32 |
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| psydroid | windows always fails | Jun 21 15:51 |
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| immibis | objectively false | Jun 21 15:54 |
| immibis | there is at least one instance where windows did not fail | Jun 21 15:54 |
| psydroid | your computer? | Jun 21 15:54 |
| activelow | if any criteria was relevant for what schools and universities were equipped with institutions would be left with nothing to choose | Jun 21 16:03 |
| activelow | recent argument i remember in german parliament was "no specific vendors must be ecluded", which is the wrong approach already | Jun 21 16:04 |
| activelow | what must be defined first are criteria to choose any | Jun 21 16:04 |
| activelow | doesn't surprise me the relevant criteria are not comprehended, even among supposedly free and open business entities | Jun 21 16:05 |
| activelow | no x86/ms system i was aware of could meet criteria for deployment in public institutions | Jun 21 16:06 |
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| activelow | not at least most calculators could be distributed in schools and universities, if these had to remain free and open with schematics available and production facilities nearby | Jun 21 16:12 |
| schestowitz | having loads of sound issues today | Jun 21 16:13 |
| schestowitz | still not sure what causes them | Jun 21 16:13 |
| schestowitz | or how to always overcome them | Jun 21 16:13 |
| schestowitz | don't want to lose any more work.. | Jun 21 16:13 |
| techrights-bot/fn | Whitney Webb: Who Is A “Terrorist” In Biden’s America? https://unlimitedhangout.com/2021/06/investigative-reports/who-is-a-terrorist-in-bidens-america/ | Jun 21 16:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Who Is A “Terrorist” In Biden’s America? - unlimitedhangout.com | Jun 21 16:27 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | Rolled Out! is a wonderful spiritual successor to Super Monkey Ball | GamingOnLinux ⚓ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/06/rolled-out-is-a-wonderful-spiritual-successor-to-super-monkey-ball ䷉ #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games 🐧 | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/21/#latest | Jun 21 16:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Rolled Out! is a wonderful spiritual successor to Super Monkey Ball | GamingOnLinux | Jun 21 16:28 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts | Jun 21 16:28 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | Classic open source RTS #Warzone 2100 has a Beta out for the upcoming 4.1 release | GamingOnLinux ⚓ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/06/classic-open-source-rts-warzone-2100-has-a-beta-out-for-the-upcoming-41-release ䷉ #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games | Jun 21 16:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Classic open source RTS Warzone 2100 has a Beta out for the upcoming 4.1 release | GamingOnLinux | Jun 21 16:30 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | "their Linux compute stack, and potentially their Linux graphics drivers moving ahead." https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Intel-IGC-1.0.7683 #intel does not REALLY give a crap about Linux: http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaks | Jun 21 16:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intel Graphics Compiler 1.0.7683 Ships With Many Changes - Phoronix | Jun 21 16:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Intel leaks - Techrights | Jun 21 16:38 | |
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| techrights-bot/fn | Linux 5.14 To Add Driver For A $10 Open-Source Joystick For DIY Electronics Projects - Phoronix ⚓ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-5.14-SparkFun-Qwiic ䷉ #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux 🐧 | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/21/#latest | Jun 21 16:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux 5.14 To Add Driver For A $10 Open-Source Joystick For DIY Electronics Projects - Phoronix | Jun 21 16:44 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | Some of the improvements made this morning to the gallery of recent #videos • ᴛᴇᴄʜʀɪɢʜᴛꜱ ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/06/21/video-no-javascript/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/21/video-no-javascript/ | Jun 21 16:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Video Gallery Without JavaScript | Techrights | Jun 21 16:53 | |
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| techrights-bot/fn | #Kernel : SparkFun #Qwiic Joystick, Intel Graphics Compiler, and More • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152519 | Jun 21 17:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: SparkFun Qwiic Joystick, Intel Graphics Compiler, and More | Tux Machines | Jun 21 17:00 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | #RockyLinux 8.4 Released For #RHEL 8.4 / CentOS Alternative • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152518 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 21 17:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Rocky Linux 8.4 Released For RHEL 8.4 / CentOS Alternative | Tux Machines | Jun 21 17:00 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152517 | Jun 21 17:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 21 17:01 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | #HowTo turn #RockyLinux 8 into a perfect desktop • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152516 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 21 17:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How to turn Rocky Linux 8 into a perfect desktop | Tux Machines | Jun 21 17:01 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | #Slimbook Executive: Lightweight Linux Ultrabook with Top-Tier Screen • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152515 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 21 17:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Slimbook Executive: Lightweight Linux Ultrabook with Top-Tier Screen | Tux Machines | Jun 21 17:02 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | #Games : Unvanquished, Rolled Out!, Warzone, Battle Chess • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152514 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 21 17:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Unvanquished, Rolled Out!, Warzone, Battle Chess | Tux Machines | Jun 21 17:02 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | #Vulkan 1.2.182 • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152513 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 21 17:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Vulkan 1.2.182 | Tux Machines | Jun 21 17:02 | |
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| techrights-bot/fn | Running The New #Intel #OpenGL "Crocus" Gallium3D Driver On Sandy Bridge • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152520 | Jun 21 17:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Running The New Intel OpenGL "Crocus" Gallium3D Driver On Sandy Bridge | Tux Machines | Jun 21 17:10 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | Google #Android Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152521 | Jun 21 17:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 21 17:12 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | There Are Bigger Scandals Than Revisionism and Brand Dilution at the #LinuxFoundation http://techrights.org/2021/06/21/brand-dilution-lf/ more: http://techrights.org/2021/06/21/brand-dilution-lf/ | Jun 21 17:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | There Are Bigger Scandals Than Revisionism and Brand Dilution at the Linux Foundation | Techrights | Jun 21 17:18 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | The buzzwords are #freesw powered https://www.suse.com/c/the-network-edge-has-evolved-and-its-open-source/ | Jun 21 17:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Network Edge has Evolved – and it’s Open Source | SUSE Communities | Jun 21 17:24 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | WP Briefing: Episode 11: #WordCamp Europe 2021 in Review https://wordpress.org/news/2021/06/episode-11-wordcamp-europe-2021-in-review/ #WordCamp #CMS #freesw | Jun 21 17:26 |
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| techrights-bot/fn | The @Brave #SearchEngine Opens For Beta Testing https://www.linuxandubuntu.com/home/brave-search-engine-opens-for-beta | Jun 21 17:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxandubuntu.com | Brave Search Engine Opens For Beta Testing | Jun 21 17:27 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | #PostgreSQL #JDBC 42.2.22 Released https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/postgresql-jdbc-42222-released-2246/ #db | Jun 21 17:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.postgresql.org | PostgreSQL: PostgreSQL JDBC 42.2.22 Released | Jun 21 17:29 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | #pgpoolAdmin 4.2.0 is now released. https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/pgpooladmin-420-is-now-released-2244/ #postgres #psql #db #freesw | Jun 21 17:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.postgresql.org | PostgreSQL: pgpoolAdmin 4.2.0 is now released. | Jun 21 17:30 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | Karl Dubost: Today is my #Mozilla 8 years anniversary https://www.otsukare.info/2021/06/21/mozilla-eight-years #firefox | Jun 21 17:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.otsukare.info | Today is my Mozilla 8 years anniversary - otsukare | Jun 21 17:31 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | What does it mean for a Linux distribution to be “fresh”? https://funnelfiasco.com/blog/2021/06/21/what-does-it-mean-for-a-linux-distribution-to-be-fresh/ #gnu #linux | Jun 21 17:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-funnelfiasco.com | What does it mean for a Linux distribution to be "fresh"? – Blog FiascoBlog Fiasco | Jun 21 17:34 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | There are some misconceptions that need tackling; back in February (more than 4 months ago) the so-called ‘Linux’ Foundation decided to associate with yet another controversial drive that has nothing to do with Linux; some people think it’s a new thing and leap to conclusions • ᴛᴇᴄʜʀɪɢʜᴛꜱ ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/06/21/brand-dilution-lf/ ䷉ #Techrights #L <clipped message> | Jun 21 17:36 |
| techrights-bot/fn | inuxFoundation #Linux #surveillance | � | Jun 21 17:36 |
| techrights-bot/fn | #Openwashing #Microsoft ... from the person who insisted #FSF must REMOVE its founder | ⚓ https://opensource.com/article/21/6/freedos-gw-basic ䷉ | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/21/#latest | Jun 21 17:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why I love programming on FreeDOS with GW-BASIC | Opensource.com | Jun 21 17:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts | Jun 21 17:37 | |
| schestowitz | You know Qt has given up on Free software when... ⚓ https://www.qt.io/blog/qt-on-appl e-silicon ䷉ #qt | Jun 21 17:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://www.qt.io/blog/qt-on-appl ) | Jun 21 17:43 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | #RockyLinux 8.4 “Green Obsidian” Is Out as the First Stable Release • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152522 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 21 17:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Rocky Linux 8.4 “Green Obsidian” Is Out as the First Stable Release | Tux Machines | Jun 21 17:49 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | #Server : #PostgreSQL -Related Releases, ’Edge’, and Kubernetes • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152523 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 21 17:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Server: PostgreSQL-Related Releases, 'Edge', and Kubernetes | Tux Machines | Jun 21 17:49 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | #IBM / #RedHat /Fedora: Ben Cotton, NeuroFedora, and Red Hat Buzzwords Like ’GitOps’ and &'DevOps' • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152524 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 21 17:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat/Fedora: Ben Cotton, NeuroFedora, and Red Hat Buzzwords Like 'GitOps' and 'DevOps' | Tux Machines | Jun 21 17:50 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | Use #FDroid to Install #freeSW https://www.maketecheasier.com/use-f-droid-to-install-open-source-android-apps/ | Jun 21 18:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | Use F-Droid to Install Open Source Android Apps - Make Tech Easier | Jun 21 18:05 | |
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| techrights-bot/fn | "In this YouTube #shorts video (shot in landscape mode like a normal person), I discuss a serious mental disorder that too many people suffer from--identifying with their software." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVITl24rRHM | Jun 21 18:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-You Are NOT The Software You Run! (#shorts) - YouTube | Jun 21 18:09 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | #oracle takes advantage of #ibm shooting itself in the foot and uses #micrsooft #ProprietarySoftware platform to do so. Facepalm. https://blogs.oracle.com/linux/centos-users%E2%80%94join-centos2ol-communities-on-github | Jun 21 18:10 |
| techrights-bot/fn | "In this video, I am going to show an overview of #Oracle #GNU #Linux 8.4 and some of the applications pre-installed." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_X1dcG6dBXA | Jun 21 18:11 |
| techrights-bot/fn | Oracle cashing in on Java: this is what happens if developers use closed source non-OpenSource non-GPL licensed programming languages https://dwaves.de/2021/06/21/oracle-cashing-in-on-java-this-is-what-happens-if-developers-use-closed-source-non-opensource-non-gpl-licensed-programming-languages/ | Jun 21 18:12 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77 | Jun 21 18:13 |
| saint_dogbert/fn | awesome | Jun 21 18:18 |
| techrights-bot/fn | #ibm #vendorLockin https://www.makeuseof.com/should-you-use-ansible-for-automation/ #Ansible #OSPS | Jun 21 18:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.makeuseof.com | Should You Use Ansible for Automation? | Jun 21 18:20 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | Install / Setup Barrier to Share Mouse & Keyboard Between Your Computers https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2021/06/setup-barrier-share-mouse-keyboard-between-computers/ very powerful #freesw | Jun 21 18:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ubuntuhandbook.org | Install / Setup Barrier to Share Mouse & Keyboard Between Your Computers | UbuntuHandbook | Jun 21 18:21 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | "a GNU/Linux user since 2001. I moved from #Debian to Ubuntu, and then returned to Debian. The first love is never forgotten!" Well done saying #GNU #Linux https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2021/06/21/community-member-monday-manuel-frassinetti/ | Jun 21 18:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.documentfoundation.org | Community Member Monday: Manuel Frassinetti - The Document Foundation Blog | Jun 21 18:25 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | #Oracle : Java, Oracle Linux 8.4, and CentOS Refugees • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152525 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 21 18:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Oracle: Java, Oracle Linux 8.4, and CentOS Refugees | Tux Machines | Jun 21 18:29 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | Mozilla | Jun 21 18:30 |
| techrights-bot/fn | #WebBrowsers : #Chromium Clones and #Mozilla Milestone • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152526 | Jun 21 18:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Browsers: Chromium Clones and Mozilla Milestone | Tux Machines | Jun 21 18:30 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152527 | Jun 21 18:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 21 18:30 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | #Security Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152528 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 21 18:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 21 18:31 | |
| activelow | quit with java, placed it onto blacklisting although i programmed various projects with it before | Jun 21 18:32 |
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| techrights-bot/fn | #Dart / #Flutter support in #Kate https://kate-editor.org/post/2021/2021-06-21-dart-support/ #kde #programming | Jun 21 18:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kate-editor.org | Dart / Flutter support in Kate - Kate | Jun 21 18:33 | |
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| activelow | go java php ruby tcl and all dependencies wiped | Jun 21 18:34 |
| techrights-bot/fn | The Linux Foundation should look for some MORE people at #microsoft https://www.smdailyjournal.com/classifieds/job/tech/the-linux-foundation-seeks-a-technical-product-manager-in-san-mateo-ca/ad_4f29dc62-d2ab-11eb-af79-e38a7cc1c7f1.html since the flailing Linux Foundation deploys WINDOWS http://techrights.org/2020/06/22/proprietary-iis-and-windows-foundation/ | Jun 21 18:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Linux Foundation seeks a Technical Product Manager in San Mateo, CA | Computer& Software Jobs | smdailyjournal.com | Jun 21 18:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation Newsletter is Microsoft Windows and Proprietary IIS | Techrights | Jun 21 18:34 | |
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| AdmFubar | https://boingboing.net/2021/06/21/watch-top-5-most-annoying-computing-things.html | Jun 21 18:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boingboing.net | Watch: Top 5 most annoying computing things | Boing Boing | Jun 21 18:35 | |
| AdmFubar | great commentary about windows | Jun 21 18:35 |
| schestowitz | computers=! windows :-) | Jun 21 18:38 |
| schestowitz | contrary to what media might say | Jun 21 18:38 |
| schestowitz | esp. when it's something bad | Jun 21 18:38 |
| schestowitz | always blame "computers" | Jun 21 18:38 |
| schestowitz | toss them out, buy a new Windows "PC" | Jun 21 18:39 |
| techrights-bot/fn | Some people have reported to me that this page does not work properly in spite of it being 100% JS-free. I think some browsers extensions are EXTREMELY fussy about the iframe http://techrights.org/videos/ | Jun 21 18:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full Videos Index | Jun 21 18:40 | |
| activelow | python is poisoned too, waf build system; reason enough to blacklist entire python lang since waf easily slips into the system otherwise | Jun 21 18:42 |
| techrights-bot/fn | #collabora is growing. They do #freesw https://www.collabora.com/news-and-blog/news-and-events/growing-for-the-road-ahead.html | Jun 21 18:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.collabora.com | Growing for the road ahead | Jun 21 18:43 | |
| activelow | discussed 10years ago, impossible to repair anymore https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2010/02/msg00714.html | Jun 21 18:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.debian.org | Intent to remove waf from Debian | Jun 21 18:43 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | Successor to CentOS: GNU Rocky Linux 8.4 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152518#comment-30009 | Jun 21 18:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Rocky Linux 8.4 Released For RHEL 8.4 / CentOS Alternative | Tux Machines | Jun 21 18:44 | |
| schestowitz | I hate waf | Jun 21 18:45 |
| schestowitz | *(From work) | Jun 21 18:45 |
| activelow | build systems and packaging provide a huge attack surface for sabotage | Jun 21 18:46 |
| activelow | currently i am seeing my entire gentoo tree falling apart | Jun 21 18:46 |
| techrights-bot/fn | #Olimex #STM32MP1 SoM and evaluation board support Linux 5.10 - CNX Software ⚓ https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/06/21/olimex-stm32mp1-som-and-evaluation-board-support-linux-5-10/ ䷉ #Linux #GNU #Hardware | Jun 21 18:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Olimex STM32MP1 SoM and evaluation board support Linux 5.10 - CNX Software | Jun 21 18:46 | |
| schestowitz | activelow: how so? | Jun 21 18:47 |
| schestowitz | Don't worry, Pentagon ('Linux') Foundation is looking after your security | Jun 21 18:47 |
| schestowitz | totally GIAFAM/PRISM compatible | Jun 21 18:47 |
| schestowitz | because otherwise you're a TERROR~1 | Jun 21 18:47 |
| schestowitz | next up: Linux coded in rust | Jun 21 18:48 |
| schestowitz | funded by google | Jun 21 18:48 |
| schestowitz | hosted by Microsoft | Jun 21 18:48 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft in the Board | Jun 21 18:48 |
| schestowitz | censoring Microsoft critics | Jun 21 18:48 |
| activelow | schestowitz: essentially i created to most radical fork among GNU/linux distros currently available and it is dead-end at many fronts | Jun 21 18:48 |
| schestowitz | they also want to tell you what software you can and cannot sinstall | Jun 21 18:48 |
| activelow | *the | Jun 21 18:48 |
| schestowitz | because THAT is security | Jun 21 18:48 |
| schestowitz | IBM/Google: NO! You CAN'T do that | Jun 21 18:48 |
| schestowitz | UEFI 'secure' b00t not enough... | Jun 21 18:49 |
| schestowitz | The TERROR~1 win | Jun 21 18:49 |
| activelow | i am not involved with any ilegal activity at all, do not intend to proliferate either, only try to rescue what is possible | Jun 21 18:49 |
| immibis | sometimes i don't know if you guys are mentally stable | Jun 21 18:50 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2021/03/11/fake-security-brought-by-lf/ | Jun 21 18:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Fake Security From Linux Foundation and the Monopolies It’s Fronting for | Techrights | Jun 21 18:51 | |
| schestowitz | immibis: please elaborate | Jun 21 18:51 |
| saint_dogbert/fn | immibis: Feel free to /part Its not like anyone is holding a gun to your head and demanding that you stay logged in | Jun 21 18:51 |
| schestowitz | rather, say what you find to be irrational | Jun 21 18:51 |
| schestowitz | in very broad and general terms, the free software 'ecosystem' is under attack by those who want to control everything and impoverish users... it's not a new attack or new problem | Jun 21 18:52 |
| schestowitz | which is why users need to leverage GPL (e.g. Rocky Linux) and remain vigilant | Jun 21 18:53 |
| schestowitz | there are many ways to kill off movements, inc. the free software movement, antiwar movement etc. | Jun 21 18:53 |
| schestowitz | hijacking them or forcing them to surrender is a pattern | Jun 21 18:53 |
| activelow | free software is subverted and sabotaged beyond repair almost already, beginning with the platform init | Jun 21 18:54 |
| schestowitz | 'init' | Jun 21 18:54 |
| schestowitz | it's no longer init | Jun 21 18:54 |
| schestowitz | that's just how they initialised vendor lockin | Jun 21 18:54 |
| schestowitz | and broke apart modularity | Jun 21 18:54 |
| schestowitz | immibis: I'll take the silence as a "well, nothing in particular..." ?? | Jun 21 18:55 |
| schestowitz | substanceless allusions are cheap | Jun 21 18:55 |
| schestowitz | burden of proof not on us... :-) | Jun 21 18:55 |
| schestowitz | anyway, change of topic: | Jun 21 18:57 |
| activelow | furthermore required efforts and time to maintain this blows up exponentially | Jun 21 18:57 |
| schestowitz | so it seems freenode is dying or dead | Jun 21 18:57 |
| schestowitz | cause of dead: an idiot who decided he wants to turn IRC into "an APP" | Jun 21 18:57 |
| schestowitz | and to get initial/seed userbase he nicked freenode | Jun 21 18:58 |
| schestowitz | and that didn't go as he had planned | Jun 21 18:58 |
| schestowitz | 16 hours ago he announced that plan | Jun 21 18:58 |
| schestowitz | and maybe some people did in fact download his "apps", which XRevan86 says has trackers in it | Jun 21 18:58 |
| schestowitz | so even if freenode is privacy-respecting, the facility by which they wish people to access the network is very Kape 'Technology'-like | Jun 21 18:59 |
| schestowitz | we know roughly their business model, based on their previous incarnation | Jun 21 18:59 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▄▄▅▅▆▃▇▆▄▅▇▆▆▅▅▅▄▅▆▅▅▃▃▄▄▅▅▆▇▅▆▅▅▇▃▁ avg(k/sec) 24.96 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▁▂▂▂▂▁▂▂▃▂▂▂▃▂▂▃▁▁▂▂▁▂▁▁▂▁▂▂▂▂▁▂▁▁ avg(k/sec) 9.51▕ swarm size (avg): 306.57 ⟲ | Jun 21 18:59 |
| techrights-bot/fn | #SUSE Manager 4.2 and SUSE Linux Enterprise 15 SP3 • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152529 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 21 18:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SUSE Manager 4.2 and SUSE Linux Enterprise 15 SP3 | Tux Machines | Jun 21 18:59 | |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: I have doubts about these applications having users. | Jun 21 19:00 |
| activelow | good luck when promoting a distro which removed CUPS printing and retained lprng | Jun 21 19:01 |
| techrights-bot/fn | #WSO2 seems to have become just another #ProprietarySoftware vendor with "clown" slant https://wso2.com/choreo/blogs/wso2-choreo-a-platform-for-innovation/ | Jun 21 19:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-WSO2 Choreo - Delivering a Platform for Innovation | Jun 21 19:01 | |
| activelow | just finished to clean-up the mess left behind by systemd/dbus/... and qt6/gtk4 are ahead | Jun 21 19:02 |
| techrights-bot/fn | #Programming Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152530 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 21 19:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 21 19:02 | |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: they don't seem to understand who uses IRC and why | Jun 21 19:02 |
| schestowitz | many don't use 'phones' | Jun 21 19:02 |
| schestowitz | or if they do, strictly for calls | Jun 21 19:02 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: That was a very common statement about the new freenode even before the latest announcement. | Jun 21 19:03 |
| schestowitz | that they fail to understand? | Jun 21 19:03 |
| AdmFubar | https://www.project-disco.org/competition/062121-tech-regulatory-overhaul-series-banning-ma-activity/ | Jun 21 19:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.project-disco.org | Tech Regulatory Overhaul Series: Banning M&A Activity - Disruptive Competition Project | Jun 21 19:03 | |
| psydroid | I am sure I know that at least one person in here is mentally unstable 100% of the time | Jun 21 19:04 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: "they don't seem to understand who uses IRC and why" | Jun 21 19:04 |
| psydroid | and an advocate of proprietary software | Jun 21 19:04 |
| immibis | schestowitz: I just know I'll be banned if I call anything out in particular | Jun 21 19:05 |
| schestowitz | psydroid: well, that does not make them less human | Jun 21 19:05 |
| schestowitz | immibis: we don't ban | Jun 21 19:05 |
| psydroid | schestowitz, sure, but that doesn't mean I should care about anything they are saying | Jun 21 19:05 |
| schestowitz | except in very unusual circumstances like spamfloods | Jun 21 19:06 |
| schestowitz | psydroid: we now have some allusions w/o evidence | Jun 21 19:06 |
| psydroid | unfortunately I can't easily ignore such persons here | Jun 21 19:06 |
| schestowitz | and then allusions we are ban-happy, which is false | Jun 21 19:06 |
| psydroid | or I would | Jun 21 19:06 |
| psydroid | no | Jun 21 19:06 |
| schestowitz | you can mute in your IRC client | Jun 21 19:06 |
| psydroid | I rarely if ever ban | Jun 21 19:06 |
| psydroid | I don't use an IRC client | Jun 21 19:06 |
| psydroid | so I just mentally ignore now | Jun 21 19:07 |
| psydroid | until I find a better solution | Jun 21 19:07 |
| techrights-bot/fn | #LibreOffice on The Document Foundation (TDF) and #ODF TC • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152531 #freesw #TuxMachines | Jun 21 19:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LibreOffice on The Document Foundation (TDF) and ODF TC | Tux Machines | Jun 21 19:07 | |
| schestowitz | sometimes I try to decide for myself when it's better to take a break and not bother | Jun 21 19:08 |
| immibis | schestowitz: well then. this is basically meaningless drivel, and instead of complaining about it, it would be better to buy or invent some open hardware: | Jun 21 19:08 |
| immibis | <schestowitz> IBM/Google: NO! You CAN'T do that | Jun 21 19:08 |
| immibis | <schestowitz> UEFI 'secure' b00t not enough... | Jun 21 19:08 |
| immibis | <schestowitz> The TERROR~1 win | Jun 21 19:08 |
| schestowitz | no need to delete or ban or mute | Jun 21 19:08 |
| immibis | i'm not gonna say it's *wrong*, but it is *useless* | Jun 21 19:08 |
| schestowitz | I just focus on something else | Jun 21 19:08 |
| schestowitz | immibis: we promote open hardware | Jun 21 19:09 |
| schestowitz | all the time | Jun 21 19:09 |
| schestowitz | it's actually called free design | Jun 21 19:09 |
| schestowitz | which makes it easier to audit | Jun 21 19:09 |
| saint_dogbert/fn | If the troll is particularly obnoxious, I find its more fun to abuse them until they rage quit | Jun 21 19:09 |
| schestowitz | the manufacturing trap is hard to overcome | Jun 21 19:09 |
| schestowitz | RMS is trolled about this all the time | Jun 21 19:09 |
| schestowitz | as if RMS said, HEY! Let's manufacture chips at home!! | Jun 21 19:09 |
| schestowitz | the above comment alluded to the new 'appstore' like model LF promotes for IBM and Google (mostly) | Jun 21 19:10 |
| schestowitz | where they decide what to run or not run | Jun 21 19:10 |
| schestowitz | similar to what they do with their growing TLS 'monopoly' | Jun 21 19:10 |
| schestowitz | or with 'secure boot' | Jun 21 19:10 |
| schestowitz | which OS is "safe" | Jun 21 19:10 |
| schestowitz | according to Microsoft, Intel... | Jun 21 19:10 |
| schestowitz | they are tying to dismantle general-purpose computing | Jun 21 19:11 |
| immibis | there is a distinction between the hardware feature, and its application onto general purpose computers. | Jun 21 19:11 |
| schestowitz | even with rev-eng you'd struggle to find in a store a general sort of hardware on which to boot your system of choice | Jun 21 19:11 |
| schestowitz | not for technical reason | Jun 21 19:11 |
| schestowitz | but the hardware would just refuse, akin to TiVo | Jun 21 19:11 |
| AdmFubar | https://hackaday.com/2021/06/21/raspberry-pi-floppy-driver-uncovers-fishy-secrets/ | Jun 21 19:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Raspberry Pi Floppy Driver Uncovers Fishy Secrets | Hackaday | Jun 21 19:11 | |
| schestowitz | if you don't not understand these threats, read Cory Doctorow articles about the topic | Jun 21 19:12 |
| schestowitz | immibis: those "features" are being baked in | Jun 21 19:12 |
| schestowitz | they're not features, they're imposed | Jun 21 19:12 |
| schestowitz | they're not add-ons anymore | Jun 21 19:12 |
| psydroid | they're bugs promoted as features | Jun 21 19:12 |
| immibis | mechanisms can be used by both malicious actors and good ones. We must blame the application, not the mechanism. Secure boot can stop an attacker from overwriting your linux distro with one that doesn't check passwords | Jun 21 19:12 |
| immibis | if *you* configure it to lock to *your* distro | Jun 21 19:13 |
| schestowitz | so if the above you've deemed insane etc. then I think it boils down to now keeping up with growing threats to people's control over their lives, which are increasingly being managed by machines at a personal, job, and gov level | Jun 21 19:13 |
| immibis | (you should use hard drive encryption instead of that, but the attacker can still wipe the hd and resell it, not with secure boot) | Jun 21 19:13 |
| schestowitz | Secure boot is crap | Jun 21 19:13 |
| schestowitz | and a joke | Jun 21 19:13 |
| schestowitz | it doesn't deal with the real threats | Jun 21 19:14 |
| immibis | especially looking at the pinephone, while I can boot any OS I want and that's great, so can the person who picks my pocket | Jun 21 19:14 |
| schestowitz | and it's promotes by a fake security charlatan pack | Jun 21 19:14 |
| schestowitz | microsoft, intel, google | Jun 21 19:14 |
| schestowitz | companies that work for NSA | Jun 21 19:14 |
| immibis | if I could configure it to only boot stuff signed by my key, that would be a valid security improvement | Jun 21 19:14 |
| schestowitz | they don't value your security, they want to control your machine | Jun 21 19:14 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/UEFI | Jun 21 19:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | UEFI - Techrights | Jun 21 19:14 | |
| activelow | problem with the pine64 equipment is lack of supply, no guaranteed long term supply | Jun 21 19:14 |
| schestowitz | and of course time after time it was proves that it worsens security and locks you out of a perfectly fine machine with a fine OS | Jun 21 19:14 |
| activelow | otherwise i had ordered one of their original pinebook models already | Jun 21 19:14 |
| immibis | activelow: doesn't have to be pine64. they are not the only ones making open hardware. Buying *any* open hardware is good for open hardware as a cause | Jun 21 19:15 |
| schestowitz | pinepine is a go at creating a solution | Jun 21 19:15 |
| schestowitz | and a reaction | Jun 21 19:15 |
| schestowitz | but to deny that it tackles a real growing problem is 'inane' | Jun 21 19:15 |
| immibis | (i think open hardware is the wrong term. The hardware is not open; the hardware is more open, and especially the boot process) | Jun 21 19:15 |
| schestowitz | do to mock people who point out the problem.., makes you what? | Jun 21 19:15 |
| immibis | schestowitz: it is the reaction that is insane, not the problem | Jun 21 19:15 |
| schestowitz | i agree it's the wrong term | Jun 21 19:15 |
| schestowitz | it's free design | Jun 21 19:16 |
| schestowitz | that people share | Jun 21 19:16 |
| schestowitz | and modify | Jun 21 19:16 |
| schestowitz | risc-v is one example | Jun 21 19:16 |
| immibis | normal person: "Microsoft is taking away your ability to boot Linux, which is terrible!" | Jun 21 19:16 |
| schestowitz | [19:14] <immibis> if I could configure it to only boot stuff signed by my key, that would be a valid security improvement | Jun 21 19:16 |
| schestowitz | more machines do NOT let you do it | Jun 21 19:16 |
| immibis | Right-wing emotionally charged easily manipulated person: "Microsoft are TERRORISTS, UEFI is TERRORISM" | Jun 21 19:16 |
| schestowitz | you need t keep up | Jun 21 19:16 |
| schestowitz | in fact, some would not let you turn it off | Jun 21 19:16 |
| immibis | schestowitz: but you propose not letting me to turn it on | Jun 21 19:17 |
| schestowitz | let alone change the trust/auth | Jun 21 19:17 |
| schestowitz | immibis: I did not say that | Jun 21 19:17 |
| immibis | we should be able to buy devices that are able to secure boot, but have it turned off by default | Jun 21 19:17 |
| schestowitz | you don't know nuanced jokes | Jun 21 19:17 |
| immibis | or at least, have it changeable by defaut | Jun 21 19:17 |
| schestowitz | "The terrorists will win" | Jun 21 19:17 |
| schestowitz | or "it might lead to dancing" | Jun 21 19:17 |
| schestowitz | maybe English is not your first language | Jun 21 19:17 |
| schestowitz | it's an allusion to Bush era rhetorics | Jun 21 19:18 |
| schestowitz | where THEY allege that WE are terrorists | Jun 21 19:18 |
| MinceR | good luck getting a device with microsoft's system, but contrary to microsoft's wishes on the default settings | Jun 21 19:18 |
| immibis | uefi is a boot system, it's not TERRORISM just because it supports more features. Even selling locked devices is not TERRORISM. It's just antitrust and so on | Jun 21 19:18 |
| immibis | dm-verity is TERRORISM by the same logic, linux kernel is TERRORISM | Jun 21 19:18 |
| schestowitz | https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-origin-of-the-phrase-that-could-lead-to-dancing | Jun 21 19:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-What is the origin of the phrase 'that could lead to dancing'? - Quora | Jun 21 19:19 | |
| immibis | <schestowitz> where THEY allege that WE are terrorists <- right-wingers always project | Jun 21 19:19 |
| schestowitz | and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_terrorists_have_won | Jun 21 19:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | The terrorists have won - Wikipedia | Jun 21 19:19 | |
| immibis | schestowitz: did you seriously just link to quora | Jun 21 19:19 |
| MinceR | it's a vendor lock-in mechanism | Jun 21 19:19 |
| schestowitz | sigh | Jun 21 19:19 |
| schestowitz | bye, waste of time | Jun 21 19:19 |
| schestowitz | I have better things to do | Jun 21 19:19 |
| psydroid | we have a new troll in the family | Jun 21 19:20 |
| *schestowitz back to posting Daily Links | Jun 21 19:20 | |
| schestowitz | troll is the wrong time | Jun 21 19:21 |
| schestowitz | but that sort of debate is time-wasting | Jun 21 19:21 |
| schestowitz | because instead of focusing on how to tackle issues | Jun 21 19:21 |
| schestowitz | we're being called names | Jun 21 19:21 |
| schestowitz | and explanations are rejected offhand | Jun 21 19:21 |
| psydroid | I think we should just continue doing what we are doing | Jun 21 19:22 |
| psydroid | and let them buy and use the hardware and software they want | Jun 21 19:22 |
| psydroid | and not get distracted by and waste our time with such people | Jun 21 19:22 |
| immibis | psydroid: then TERRORISTS WIN | Jun 21 19:24 |
| *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) | Jun 21 19:25 | |
| immibis | people want freedom-deleting hardware, that has been proven | Jun 21 19:25 |
| activelow | anyway, this is my plan with free and open source: continue maintainenance of what i did the last three years with as little effort as possible, and prepare for an even more radical fork with swapping the entire compiler, remove cxx, remove python etc. and see what remains then on some yet to be selected embedded system | Jun 21 19:25 |
| activelow | in any case it must remain self-hosting fully from source, suspect python will encounter further attacks (rust, waf etc.) so this as a consequence will complicate things with gentoo tooling gone | Jun 21 19:27 |
| psydroid | activelow, it's a shame that one person who used to come here isn't here now, because we discussed similar radical developments that I can't discuss further at the moment | Jun 21 19:27 |
| activelow | maybe schestowitz permitted me to open a channel on his server to exchange ideas? | Jun 21 19:30 |
| psydroid | but let's say that it involves re-implementing the free software world | Jun 21 19:30 |
| psydroid | http://techrights.org/2020/05/27/freesw-seed/ | Jun 21 19:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | GNEW Seedlings vs. Free Software Deforestation | Techrights | Jun 21 19:30 | |
| AdmFubar | https://tech.slashdot.org/story/21/06/19/0526255/why-google-is-funding-linux-kernel-development-in-rust?utm_source=rss0.9mainlinkanon&utm_medium=feed | Jun 21 19:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tech.slashdot.org | Why Google is Funding Linux Kernel Development in Rust - Slashdot | Jun 21 19:32 | |
| *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@jiz967bhsgr6i.irc) has joined #techrights | Jun 21 19:33 | |
| XRevan86 | https://twitter.com/ariadneconill/status/1406824865722781696 this is gold, why doesn't Ariadne share these great findings here? | Jun 21 19:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ariadneconill: andrew promised millions of users coming to freenode “very soon” but when pressed for details went silent https://t.co/mo3QtJdEbD | Jun 21 19:33 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ariadneconill: andrew promised millions of users coming to freenode “very soon” but when pressed for details went silent https://t.co/mo3QtJdEbD | Jun 21 19:33 | |
| schestowitz | [19:25] <immibis> people want freedom-deleting hardware, that has been proven | Jun 21 19:33 |
| schestowitz | so work to fix things | Jun 21 19:33 |
| schestowitz | defeatism gets us nowhere | Jun 21 19:33 |
| schestowitz | by the way "TERRORISTS WIN" is a joke at our expense | Jun 21 19:34 |
| schestowitz | didn't suggest our opponents are terrorists | Jun 21 19:34 |
| schestowitz | but that they use straw man arguments | Jun 21 19:34 |
| schestowitz | as if freedom in software means terrorists at every corner | Jun 21 19:34 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: true | Jun 21 19:36 |
| schestowitz | it didn't go according to disneyworld(tm) plan | Jun 21 19:36 |
| XRevan86 | > Given that people got banned for making GDPR data access requests, I highly doubt they even understand the consequences of not complying. | Jun 21 19:36 |
| XRevan86 | Oh yea… that did happen, hadn't it… | Jun 21 19:36 |
| schestowitz | trump also made lots of "big league" promises | Jun 21 19:36 |
| schestowitz | like walls and stuff | Jun 21 19:36 |
| schestowitz | mexico will even pay for it !! | Jun 21 19:37 |
| XRevan86 | > the irc.irc.com DNS name is now pointed at freenode | Jun 21 19:37 |
| XRevan86 | Right, that's why they didn't need to update the applications. | Jun 21 19:37 |
| schestowitz | who owned this domain before? | Jun 21 19:38 |
| schestowitz | a network sucks even if the irc dns is 1.co | Jun 21 19:38 |
| schestowitz | the domain means nothing to the quality of the network | Jun 21 19:38 |
| XRevan86 | I haven't seen any information on that, I think it was just *a* domain. | Jun 21 19:39 |
| AdmFubar | https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210618/13040347017/researchers-2g-connection-encyption-deliberately-weakened-to-comply-with-cryptowar-export-restrictions.shtml | Jun 21 19:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Researchers: 2G Connection Encryption Deliberately Weakened To Comply With Cryptowar Export Restrictions | Techdirt | Jun 21 19:39 | |
| schestowitz | like a "get rich fast scheme" | Jun 21 19:39 |
| schestowitz | 1. buy IRC.com | Jun 21 19:39 |
| XRevan86 | probably squatters had it | Jun 21 19:39 |
| schestowitz | 2. buy a userbase | Jun 21 19:39 |
| schestowitz | 3. [...] | Jun 21 19:39 |
| schestowitz | 4. profit | Jun 21 19:39 |
| schestowitz | doesn't work like this in practice | Jun 21 19:39 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: If we find out that this was his plan with freenode all along, I will lose my mind. | Jun 21 19:40 |
| schestowitz | many use IRC to AVOID this "app" nonsense | Jun 21 19:40 |
| schestowitz | so offering it packaged as "app" is misunderstanding the niche that is IRC | Jun 21 19:40 |
| schestowitz | and trying to convert it into the very thing they worked hard to avoid becomign | Jun 21 19:40 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: look at irc.com a week ago | Jun 21 19:41 |
| schestowitz | it even says something to that effect | Jun 21 19:41 |
| schestowitz | so "app" is what was meant by "easy to use" | Jun 21 19:41 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2021/06/16/techrights-statement-on-irc/ | Jun 21 19:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Statement on IRC | Techrights | Jun 21 19:41 | |
| schestowitz | see this image http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/irc-com.png | Jun 21 19:41 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Andrew was angry that the freenode staff made a road-map stating a migration to Solanum among other things. | Jun 21 19:41 |
| schestowitz | he helped with kiwiirc | Jun 21 19:41 |
| schestowitz | got a domain | Jun 21 19:41 |
| schestowitz | got freenode | Jun 21 19:42 |
| schestowitz | then pulled out an "app" | Jun 21 19:42 |
| schestowitz | which is likely not so original, either | Jun 21 19:42 |
| schestowitz | android had irc 'apps' like a decade back | Jun 21 19:42 |
| AdmFubar | https://www.theregister.com/2021/06/21/toshiba_effissimo_meti_scandal/ | Jun 21 19:42 |
| XRevan86 | Could be that it irritated him for being far from his vision of where freenode should be going. | Jun 21 19:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Toshiba engulfed by scandal again — and the prime minister is implicated • The Register | Jun 21 19:42 | |
| schestowitz | I forgot their names... | Jun 21 19:42 |
| XRevan86 | and I assume he had no idea Solanum is pretty much the same thing as freenode was already runnin | Jun 21 19:42 |
| schestowitz | citation? | Jun 21 19:43 |
| schestowitz | for claims of this anger? | Jun 21 19:43 |
| immibis | people want apps | Jun 21 19:43 |
| immibis | that has also been proven | Jun 21 19:43 |
| schestowitz | not irc users | Jun 21 19:43 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Oh, I need to go all the way back for this. | Jun 21 19:43 |
| schestowitz | irc is a niche | Jun 21 19:43 |
| immibis | even schestowitz linked to quora just before | Jun 21 19:43 |
| schestowitz | it's not random people | Jun 21 19:43 |
| immibis | which is a web app | Jun 21 19:43 |
| schestowitz | it's like saying Muslims WANT pork | Jun 21 19:43 |
| schestowitz | they don't | Jun 21 19:43 |
| immibis | a particularly unfree one since it tries to prevent you reading most of it without creating an account | Jun 21 19:44 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Do ye have the "Lee's side" PDF near you? | Jun 21 19:44 |
| schestowitz | it's on our site, I take your work it is in there though | Jun 21 19:45 |
| schestowitz | *word | Jun 21 19:45 |
| XRevan86 | http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/lee-side.pdf there it is | Jun 21 19:45 |
| XRevan86 | page 9 | Jun 21 19:46 |
| techrights-bot/fn | Links 21/6/2021: Rocky Linux 8.4, IPFire 2.25 - Core Update 157, and SUSE Linux Enterprise 15 SP3 • ᴛᴇᴄʜʀɪɢʜᴛꜱ ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/06/21/rocky-linux-8-4/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/21/rocky-linux-8-4/ | Jun 21 19:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 21/6/2021: Rocky Linux 8.4, IPFire 2.25 – Core Update 157, and SUSE Linux Enterprise 15 SP3 | Techrights | Jun 21 19:46 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | Embedded #Linux and #OpenHardware Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152532 #freesw | Jun 21 19:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Embedded Linux and Open Hardware Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 21 19:47 | |
| XRevan86 | The freenode and OFTC joint effort to work on Charybdis as Solanum is what got the negotiations off the rails. | Jun 21 19:47 |
| techrights-bot/fn | Today’s 𝐓𝐮𝐱 𝐌𝐚𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐞𝐬 Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152533 | Jun 21 19:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 21 19:47 | |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: thanks | Jun 21 19:48 |
| schestowitz | good to know | Jun 21 19:48 |
| schestowitz | well, as of today we have a better understanding of the "master plan" | Jun 21 19:49 |
| schestowitz | starting with tuesday's wipe and reboot | Jun 21 19:49 |
| schestowitz | irds | Jun 21 19:49 |
| schestowitz | ircd | Jun 21 19:49 |
| schestowitz | and not the "app" | Jun 21 19:49 |
| schestowitz | not the vision I hoped for | Jun 21 19:49 |
| schestowitz | but!!!! | Jun 21 19:49 |
| schestowitz | I hope that sort of succeeds | Jun 21 19:49 |
| schestowitz | because we are still on freenode too | Jun 21 19:49 |
| schestowitz | and if that brings more users to ircv3 protocol, all the better, I suppose... | Jun 21 19:49 |
| schestowitz | though it's hard to pull it off | Jun 21 19:49 |
| schestowitz | they contend with matrix, jabber, and big proprietary junk | Jun 21 19:50 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: They don't have the selling points of XMPP and Matrix | Jun 21 19:50 |
| schestowitz | I know | Jun 21 19:50 |
| schestowitz | so they come from behind | Jun 21 19:50 |
| schestowitz | in the technical sense | Jun 21 19:50 |
| schestowitz | irc has not much technical merit | Jun 21 19:51 |
| schestowitz | but many technical people in it | Jun 21 19:51 |
| XRevan86 | and they will never be able to extend IRC beyond a certain limit | Jun 21 19:51 |
| schestowitz | hooks, software, clients, legacy... | Jun 21 19:51 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: because various software would no longer be compatible.. | Jun 21 19:51 |
| gustaf | considering who is on staff at freenode (phanes) I would be extra careful to trust any app or bouncer under freenode control | Jun 21 19:51 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Right. This IRC.com thing is already barely IRC. | Jun 21 19:51 |
| schestowitz | it's AnotherApp(r) | Jun 21 19:52 |
| activelow | doubt it is in compliance with UK law to point freenode.tld to the server setup, and him resolving irc.com to the new server setup could be one last desperate move before freenode.tld resolves to nothing | Jun 21 19:52 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: Can ye elaborate? I've no idea what ye just said. | Jun 21 19:53 |
| activelow | XRevan86: i have no opinion on this other than the fact i didn't register with libera and disconnected from freenode | Jun 21 19:53 |
| immibis | ircv3 protocol is also an attempt to take over IRC. IRCv3 is Embrace, Extend | Jun 21 19:53 |
| XRevan86 | immibis: It doesn't try to subvert it. | Jun 21 19:54 |
| techrights-bot/fn | #Slimbook reveal the Slimbook Executive 14" ultrabook http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152515#comment-30010 #gnu #linux | Jun 21 19:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Slimbook Executive: Lightweight Linux Ultrabook with Top-Tier Screen | Tux Machines | Jun 21 19:54 | |
| activelow | the fact alone a service provision can receive plaintext passwords from an old service database is reason enough to file a lawsuit against whoever operates the new server setup | Jun 21 19:55 |
| immibis | do you remember when IRCv3 proposed to replace the protocol with JSON and "deprecate" the "legacy" protocol? | Jun 21 19:55 |
| immibis | how is that not subversion? | Jun 21 19:55 |
| XRevan86 | immibis: Never knew about that. | Jun 21 19:55 |
| techrights-bot/fn | #destinationlinux 231: Is Linux Desktop Near The End: Fact or FUD? https://destinationlinux.org/episode-231/ | Jun 21 19:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-destinationlinux.org | 231: Is Linux Desktop Near The End: Fact or FUD? - Destination Linux | Jun 21 19:56 | |
| immibis | it was shot down, because enough people complained enough | Jun 21 19:56 |
| XRevan86 | And now for something completely different | Jun 21 19:57 |
| XRevan86 | JRC? :) | Jun 21 19:58 |
| XRevan86 | JMAP is a thing, so why not | Jun 21 19:58 |
| XRevan86 | immibis: If they wanted a new protocol, they should've made a new protocol. | Jun 21 19:59 |
| immibis | XRevan86: they did, it was called IRCv3 | Jun 21 19:59 |
| XRevan86 | immibis: IRCv3 looks more like XEPs | Jun 21 19:59 |
| immibis | and you would be able to send things like emoji reactions | Jun 21 20:00 |
| immibis | over json. Edit and delete messages | Jun 21 20:00 |
| techrights-bot/fn | #NVIDIA ’s #DLSS upscaling comes to ’Rust' and a wave of Linux games • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152534 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 21 20:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | NVIDIA's DLSS upscaling comes to 'Rust' and a wave of Linux games | Tux Machines | Jun 21 20:01 | |
| immibis | https://github.com/ircv3/ircv3-specifications/issues/55 | Jun 21 20:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-JSON-based protocol · Issue #55 · ircv3/ircv3-specifications · GitHub | Jun 21 20:01 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | Brad Linder on #Slimbook http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152515#comment-30012 | Jun 21 20:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Slimbook Executive: Lightweight Linux Ultrabook with Top-Tier Screen | Tux Machines | Jun 21 20:03 | |
| XRevan86 | immibis: 👀 | Jun 21 20:03 |
| immibis | > Any comments from this point on which are not constructive or additive to this debate will be purged with extreme prejudice. (Most of) You are adults. Act like it. | Jun 21 20:06 |
| activelow | pinebook was $99, 10% of the slimbook price, which left considerable headroom for some software pricing and fair-trade agreement | Jun 21 20:10 |
| activelow | few weeks ago liberated GPU support was finished, and it is out-of-stock | Jun 21 20:10 |
| immibis | if it is out-of-stock the price is too low, according to the laws of capitalism | Jun 21 20:11 |
| immibis | pine64 could be the first baby steps into a world of usable free-design mobile devices | Jun 21 20:12 |
| MinceR | so if there's only one made of anything, that must be priced at infinity | Jun 21 20:14 |
| immibis | it must be priced as high as anyone is willing to pay | Jun 21 20:14 |
| techrights-bot/fn | You can really tell that #IBM / #RedHat sees its userbase slipping away.. https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/migrating-rhel-8-enter-red-hats-giveaway #RHEL | Jun 21 20:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Migrating to RHEL 8? Enter Red Hat's giveaway | Jun 21 20:14 | |
| psydroid | I would only recommend migrating OFF RHEL 8 | Jun 21 20:15 |
| MinceR | if someone is willing to pay, it will be sold, and then it will be out of stock, i.e. underpriced | Jun 21 20:15 |
| techrights-bot/fn | "After months and months of the construction crews hammering away, VK_EXT_multi_draw has now been released for general use." https://www.supergoodcode.com/finally/ #linux #graphics | Jun 21 20:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.supergoodcode.com | Finally – Mike Blumenkrantz – Super. Good. Code. | Jun 21 20:15 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152535 | Jun 21 20:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 21 20:16 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | This pocket-sized uses #tinyML to analyze a COVID-19 patient’s health conditions | Arduino Blog ⚓ https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/06/21/this-pocket-sized-uses-tinyml-to-analyze-a-covid-19-patients-health-conditions/ ䷉ #Arduino #Hardware #OpenHardware #Hacking | Jun 21 20:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | This pocket-sized uses tinyML to analyze a COVID-19 patient's health conditions | Arduino Blog | Jun 21 20:16 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | Google's UI Toolkit Flutter 2.2 Claims Cross-Platform Crown ⚓ https://www.infoq.com/news/2021/06/flutter-2-2-dart-2-13/don't use Gulag's tools. They pull the rug from beneath you within years. Time after time... | Jun 21 20:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://www.infoq.com/news/2021/06/flutter-2-2-dart-2-13/don't/ ) | Jun 21 20:18 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: yes, but not to other clones of it | Jun 21 20:23 |
| schestowitz | sadly, the options are not many | Jun 21 20:23 |
| schestowitz | different names, similar stacks | Jun 21 20:23 |
| techrights-bot/fn | Corrupt #EPO broadens adoption of an illegal and unconstitutional practice while rigging the courts to pretend it's OK https://www.adamson-jones.co.uk/news-events/ip-news/the-epo-extends-the-use-of-video-conferencing/ see http://techrights.org/2021/05/26/summing-up-g121/ | Jun 21 20:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.adamson-jones.co.uk | The EPO extends the use of video conferencing | Adamson Jones | Jun 21 20:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EPO’s War on Justice and Assault on the Law — Part 20: Summing up | Techrights | Jun 21 20:26 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | Team UPC still writes about deal and utterly illegal things it tries to shoehorn into the system https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=626c4731-803f-4855-9e97-ce21448055aa see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/UPC | Jun 21 20:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Unified Patent Court (“UPC”) and Unitary Patents - Lexology | Jun 21 20:27 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | UPC - Techrights | Jun 21 20:27 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | This never happened because the Mafia that runs the #epo is still committing endless crimes https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/irish-patent-judge-must-be-reinstated-in-munich-job-1.3319407 | Jun 21 20:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.irishtimes.com | Irish patent judge must be reinstated in Munich job | Jun 21 20:28 | |
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| techrights-bot/fn | Today in #Techrights • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152536 | Jun 21 20:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jun 21 20:29 | |
| activelow | could have been some patent and GPL license infringement too, pinebook was equipped with Allwinner | Jun 21 20:32 |
| activelow | and google went after them for distributing firmware with video decoding support | Jun 21 20:33 |
| activelow | as soon as a device is capable of showing anything from youtube this seems to pose a threat to some business entities | Jun 21 20:35 |
| activelow | https://linux-sunxi.org/GPL_Violations | Jun 21 20:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GPL Violations - linux-sunxi.org | Jun 21 20:36 | |
| activelow | and since then Allwinner laptop is out-of-stock | Jun 21 20:37 |
| schestowitz | bully de blanc is now unemployed | Jun 21 20:40 |
| schestowitz | worth pointing out? | Jun 21 20:40 |
| schestowitz | or too crude? | Jun 21 20:40 |
| techrights-bot/fn | Bully de Blanc fired for a failed coup? https://twitter.com/mmillions/status/1407001328379965449 #gnome #fsf #gnu #rms #freesw | Jun 21 20:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mmillions: Okay I am now unemployed for real. What are your favorite free or cheap NYC activities? | Jun 21 20:42 | |
| psydroid | I have an Orange Pi Win Plus with Allwinner A64 and I can use it for watching YouTube content | Jun 21 20:44 |
| psydroid | What will happen when they start selling a Pinebook with a Rockchip SoC? | Jun 21 20:44 |
| activelow | they do, and the rockpro laptop is scarce too | Jun 21 20:45 |
| activelow | seems to be no issue to sell Allwinner and Rockchip as long as it's locked and bundled with proprietary Android | Jun 21 20:48 |
| psydroid | I hate gatekeeping | Jun 21 20:49 |
| psymin | hatekeeping | Jun 21 20:49 |
| activelow | product placement of alternatives is aggressive, viable alternatives remain below noise floor, except if anyone knew what to look for | Jun 21 20:49 |
| psydroid | Those chips are fine for almost anything, especially upcoming chips such as Allwinner A200 and Rockchip RK3588 | Jun 21 20:49 |
| samiamsam | hey have you guys seen leah rowe's work desoldering bios from laptops | Jun 21 20:50 |
| samiamsam | anything like that for phones? | Jun 21 20:51 |
| immibis | why is techrights-bot sharing a twitter link? | Jun 21 20:51 |
| samiamsam | it is cheap to get a phone's screen changed out, is it as easy to change out the boot loader? | Jun 21 20:51 |
| schestowitz | immibis: some people use twitter | Jun 21 20:53 |
| schestowitz | i could look up the nitter url | Jun 21 20:54 |
| KindOne/fn | schestowitz, any opinion on the interview with l0de? | Jun 21 20:54 |
| schestowitz | but that would not render correctly in disapora and twitter with expansion | Jun 21 20:54 |
| schestowitz | kingoffrance: godawful | Jun 21 20:54 |
| schestowitz | of what I saw of it | Jun 21 20:54 |
| schestowitz | the later parts | Jun 21 20:54 |
| activelow | it is important to review uboot support before picking any, even uboot was subverted to include binary blobs (dram init and who knows what else) | Jun 21 20:56 |
| activelow | some extremely scarce SBC and laptops do not | Jun 21 20:56 |
| immibis | get one with a uboot binary blob and then reverse-engineer the blob | Jun 21 20:57 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▆▅▅▆▄▅▅▅▅▅▃▅▅▄▅▃▄▃▂▆▅▄▃▆▅▅▅▆▂▃▆▁ avg(k/sec) 22.18 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▂▁▂▂▁▃▁▂▃▃▁▂▂▂▂▁▂▁▁▂▃▁▂▂▃▁▂▂▂▂▁▁▂▁ avg(k/sec) 21.11▕ swarm size (avg): 306.95 ⟲ | Jun 21 20:59 |
| psydroid | I couldn't play certain DRM-ed streams in Falkon and Firefox because of the lack of Widevine for AArch64 | Jun 21 21:01 |
| schestowitz | falkon \0/ | Jun 21 21:02 |
| schestowitz | said nobody: "high five, fellow user" | Jun 21 21:02 |
| psydroid | I use it as much as possible and it's my default web browser, the other ones are only for sites that don't work in it | Jun 21 21:03 |
| schestowitz | the new videos turns out to be compatible with netsurf | Jun 21 21:04 |
| schestowitz | it does not have native webm support | Jun 21 21:04 |
| schestowitz | but it suggests you download the clips when they are clicked on | Jun 21 21:04 |
| schestowitz | psydroid: same here, with firefox as fallback | Jun 21 21:04 |
| techrights-bot/fn | #fakePatents must go. #swpats : " #patent relates to receiving notifications related to products or services of interest, at a mobile device based on the location of the mobile device and notification" https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2021/6/17/aeritas-reexamination-request-granted | Jun 21 21:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.unifiedpatents.com | Aeritas reexamination request granted — Unified Patents | Jun 21 21:05 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | Corrupt #epo keeps issuing illegal #patents such as #swpats https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2021/6/18/another-epo-challenge-filed-against-etri when challenged, the appeal goes to #kangaroocourts controlled by what EPO INSIDERS call "MAFIA" | Jun 21 21:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.unifiedpatents.com | Another EPO challenge filed against ETRI — Unified Patents | Jun 21 21:07 | |
| schestowitz | I am going to finalise part 14 of the EPO series now | Jun 21 21:07 |
| schestowitz | tomorrow the finale | Jun 21 21:07 |
| schestowitz | 11 documents in today's part, Part 14 | Jun 21 21:08 |
| schestowitz | Ariadne might want to read | Jun 21 21:11 |
| schestowitz | these exposes are why she decided to support us as she did | Jun 21 21:11 |
| schestowitz | and many people are working hard to produce these | Jun 21 21:11 |
| techrights-bot/fn | Many of them will not pay but die instead, because of #patents ... https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2021/06/patent-extensions-keep-drug-costs-high/ | Jun 21 21:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.motherjones.com | Why Americans Pay Through the Nose for Brand-Name Drugs – Mother Jones | Jun 21 21:20 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | FOSS Patents: Podcast on key patent injunction developments: new German patent injunction statute, ECJ referral regarding preliminary injunctions, and standard-essential patent injunctions ⚓ http://www.fosspatents.com/2021/06/podcast-on-key-patent-injunction.html ䷉ #fosspatents | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/21/#latest | Jun 21 21:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosspatents.com | FOSS Patents: Podcast on key patent injunction developments: new German patent injunction statute, ECJ referral regarding preliminary injunctions, and standard-essential patent injunctions | Jun 21 21:20 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts | Jun 21 21:20 | |
| rando/fn | MSG psydroid test | Jun 21 21:20 |
| rando/fn | test | Jun 21 21:20 |
| techrights-bot/fn | FOSS Patents: Podcast on key #patent #injunction developments: new German patent injunction statute, ECJ referral regarding preliminary injunctions, and standard-essential patent injunctions ⚓ http://www.fosspatents.com/2021/06/podcast-on-key-patent-injunction.html ䷉ #fosspatents | Jun 21 21:21 |
| schestowitz | rando: app? | Jun 21 21:21 |
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| kingoffrance | schestowitz, you meant to highlight KindOne/fn but yeah listening now the interview is pretty cringey | Jun 21 22:30 |
| schestowitz | whcih part/s | Jun 21 22:30 |
| schestowitz | ? | Jun 21 22:30 |
| schestowitz | I wanted to say more | Jun 21 22:30 |
| kingoffrance | everything | Jun 21 22:30 |
| kingoffrance | let me finish | Jun 21 22:30 |
| schestowitz | but it bridges across to FN | Jun 21 22:30 |
| schestowitz | and don't want to get us in trouble there | Jun 21 22:30 |
| kingoffrance | (finish listening, np) | Jun 21 22:31 |
| kingoffrance | just concurring | Jun 21 22:31 |
| XRevan86 | self-censorship | Jun 21 22:31 |
| kingoffrance | lol come to social | Jun 21 22:31 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: exactly | Jun 21 22:32 |
| schestowitz | that's what happens when dealing with dictators | Jun 21 22:32 |
| schestowitz | who make "examples" of people | Jun 21 22:32 |
| schestowitz | c/f Putler | Jun 21 22:32 |
| kingoffrance | well i am trying to not stir shit, and separate content/style. so i am giving benefit of doubt for any content. cringey i mean style | Jun 21 22:33 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Well I'm not holding back :) | Jun 21 22:34 |
| KindOne/fn | What exactly are they going to do if you give your opinion? | Jun 21 22:38 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Don't hold back because of these people. | Jun 21 22:39 |
| KindOne/fn | I've expressed my opions loud and clear, im still here. | Jun 21 22:39 |
| KindOne/fn | opinions | Jun 21 22:39 |
| XRevan86 | KindOne: I saw your nick pop up during the interview, I was surprising that ye would participate in such trash. | Jun 21 22:41 |
| XRevan86 | even as trashtalking rasengan | Jun 21 22:41 |
| XRevan86 | * surprised | Jun 21 22:41 |
| XRevan86 | 30°C is doing a number on my ability to use language. | Jun 21 22:41 |
| techrights-bot/fn | Virtual Injustice — Part 14: How Mandatory ViCo Became the “New Normal” http://techrights.org/2021/06/21/vico-as-new-normal/ #epo #europe #corruption #patents | Jun 21 22:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Virtual Injustice — Part 14: How Mandatory ViCo Became the “New Normal” | Techrights | Jun 21 22:41 | |
| KindOne/fn | I was mostly there to spam my short and sweet opinions, like "FUCK YOU LEE" | Jun 21 22:42 |
| XRevan86 | KindOne: Yea, that was… unnecessary. | Jun 21 22:42 |
| KindOne/fn | What exactly is he going to do about it? K/G/Z-line me? | Jun 21 22:42 |
| XRevan86 | KindOne: I just mean that it's not constructive criticism. And it's not going against the trolls that flooded that chat, it's joining them. | Jun 21 22:43 |
| XRevan86 | https://twitter.com/Dinnerbone/status/1407069024643686401 | Jun 21 22:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Dinnerbone: Did some snooping around this really weird https://t.co/ViENvUmy9i becoming https://t.co/3LFosH6tm7 thing. You can… https://t.co/myLSGAhPdI | Jun 21 22:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> IRC.com | Jun 21 22:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> freenode.net | freenode | Jun 21 22:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Dinnerbone: Did some snooping around this really weird https://t.co/ViENvUmy9i becoming https://t.co/3LFosH6tm7 thing. You can… https://t.co/myLSGAhPdI | Jun 21 22:44 | |
| XRevan86 | So this person actually investigated the IRC.com Android application. | Jun 21 22:45 |
| schestowitz | Kape Tech | Jun 21 22:45 |
| schestowitz | so-called 'tech' | Jun 21 22:45 |
| schestowitz | after what they did, prior to the firm'e rename | Jun 21 22:46 |
| schestowitz | one can guess where this "app" is going | Jun 21 22:46 |
| XRevan86 | In the direction of Cisco Jabber? | Jun 21 22:46 |
| KindOne/fn | irc.irc.com just connected to irc.snoonet.org, literally name network, just a different NETWORK= in the 004 or 005 whenever you connect | Jun 21 22:47 |
| KindOne/fn | s/name/same/ | Jun 21 22:47 |
| XRevan86 | $ dig +short CNAME irc.irc.com | Jun 21 22:47 |
| XRevan86 | chat.freenode.net. | Jun 21 22:47 |
| schestowitz | what is snoonet? | Jun 21 22:47 |
| KindOne/fn | https://snoonet.org/posts/2021/06/20/updates-to-irc-com-infrastructure/ | Jun 21 22:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-snoonet.org | Snoonet · Updates to IRC.com infrastructure | Jun 21 22:48 | |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Another IRC network, rasengan bought it some time ago. | Jun 21 22:48 |
| XRevan86 | there was some controversy regarding that too, but I haven't looked into that | Jun 21 22:48 |
| KindOne/fn | network with a bunch of subreddits, its not official | Jun 21 22:48 |
| techrights-bot/fn | These #patents ought not exist in the first place (for many reasons); they just make a concession of making "licensing" obligatory, which means obligatory tax http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/06/21/compulsory-licensing-argentina/ #patent #cartel | Jun 21 22:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | Compulsory Licensing Argentina - Kluwer Patent Blog | Jun 21 22:49 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | More paid-for #EPO puff pieces, to help distract from the EPO's crimes https://www.med-technews.com/news/latest-medtech-news/epo-announces-winners-of-annual-innovation-prize/ see http://techrights.org/2021/05/04/epo-eia-hush-money/ | Jun 21 22:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.med-technews.com | EPO announces winners of annual innovation prize - Med-Tech Innovation | Latest news for the medical device industry | Jun 21 22:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO Already Wasting Money on Media Manipulation Campaigns for European Inventor Award | Techrights | Jun 21 22:51 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | These people have absolutely no idea what "hey hi" is and they misuse terms like "open source" (to mean something else completely) https://www.managingip.com/article/b1sb9vtbhmfkjm/dont-donate-ai-by-mistake-in-house-speak-out-on-open-source | Jun 21 22:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | ‘Don’t donate AI by mistake’: in-house speak out on open source | Managing Intellectual Property | Jun 21 22:52 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | 11 PM and still light outside. Must be some veeeery long day in the northern hemisphere. ^_^ | Jun 21 22:59 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▅▆▅▆▄▅▄▃▆▅▃▆▅▆▂▅▆▅▅▄▅▄▅▃▅▄▃▆▂▃▄▆▅▅▁ avg(k/sec) 24.55 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▂▂▂▁▁▂▁▂▁▂▂▁▁▁▁▂▂▂▁▂▂▁▂▂▂▂▁▁▂▁▃▁▂▂▁ avg(k/sec) 6.01▕ swarm size (avg): 307.52 ⟲ | Jun 21 22:59 |
| activelow | it isn't "intellectual property", it is author's rights undermined, which involves the entire legal framework including social security, labor market regulations, taxation, minimum wage | Jun 21 23:00 |
| techrights-bot/fn | Best OCR Apps for Linux • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152537 | Jun 21 23:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Best OCR Apps for Linux | Tux Machines | Jun 21 23:00 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | Most Beautiful #GNU #Linux Distributions • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152538 | Jun 21 23:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Most Beautiful Linux Distributions | Tux Machines | Jun 21 23:01 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | Tiny i.MX8M Mini module also ships on dev kit with Digi XBee • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152539 | Jun 21 23:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tiny i.MX8M Mini module also ships on dev kit with Digi XBee | Tux Machines | Jun 21 23:02 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | #Google #Android Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152540 #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 21 23:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 21 23:02 | |
| activelow | EUPL explicitely insisting on a contributions remaining "royalty free" in parallel to a lacking and non-existent legal framework for social security in the EU | Jun 21 23:03 |
| activelow | roaming freely to avoid social security and taxation | Jun 21 23:04 |
| techrights-bot/fn | How mandatory #ViCo hearings gradually became the "New Normal" at the EPO. The lawlessness of the EPO has gone offline and online; António Campinos takes up a notch the abuses of Benoît Battistelli, with a COVID ‘shot in the arm’. • ᴛᴇᴄʜʀɪɢʜᴛꜱ ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/06/21/vico-as-new-normal/ ䷉ #Techrights #Europe #Corruption #Patents | ♾ Gemini addre <clipped message> | Jun 21 23:04 |
| techrights-bot/fn | ss: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021 | Jun 21 23:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Virtual Injustice — Part 14: How Mandatory ViCo Became the “New Normal” | Techrights | Jun 21 23:04 | |
| activelow | privatization of Telecom was supposed to prevent monopoly, when instead it strengthened the ones in the interests of shareholders | Jun 21 23:05 |
| techrights-bot/fn | #CentOS replacement distro Rocky Linux’s first general release is out http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152518#comment-30013 | Jun 21 23:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Rocky Linux 8.4 Released For RHEL 8.4 / CentOS Alternative | Tux Machines | Jun 21 23:05 | |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: buying and controlling people's comms is big business now | Jun 21 23:11 |
| schestowitz | MINDS also | Jun 21 23:11 |
| schestowitz | raise money, buy groups | Jun 21 23:11 |
| schestowitz | brainwash them | Jun 21 23:11 |
| schestowitz | censor some | Jun 21 23:11 |
| schestowitz | spy | Jun 21 23:11 |
| schestowitz | gain | Jun 21 23:11 |
| schestowitz | they're never benevolent | Jun 21 23:11 |
| schestowitz | except in their own minds, MAYBE. | Jun 21 23:11 |
| techrights-bot/fn | Software Updates that Respects Civil Liberties - #Purism ⚓ https://puri.sm/posts/software-updates-that-respects-civil-liberties/ ䷉ #pureos | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/21/#latest | Jun 21 23:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-puri.sm | Software Updates that Respects Civil Liberties – Purism | Jun 21 23:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts | Jun 21 23:13 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | #Nvidia beefs up #DLSS with more games and #Linux support http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152534#comment-30014 | Jun 21 23:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | NVIDIA's DLSS upscaling comes to 'Rust' and a wave of Linux games | Tux Machines | Jun 21 23:15 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | #ProprietarySoftware ramps, a move away from #softwareFreedom https://www.makeuseof.com/everything-you-need-to-know-about-snap-and-snap-store/ | Jun 21 23:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.makeuseof.com | Everything You Need to Know About Snap and Snap Store | Jun 21 23:16 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | " #KernelCI is community-led test system focused on the upstream #Linux #kernel ." https://www.collabora.com/news-and-blog/news-and-events/successful-first-kernelci-hackfest.html | Jun 21 23:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.collabora.com | A very successful first KernelCI hackfest | Jun 21 23:17 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | Hello Rocky Linux 8.4 (and belated Hello to Alma Linux too) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152518#comment-30015 | Jun 21 23:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Rocky Linux 8.4 Released For RHEL 8.4 / CentOS Alternative | Tux Machines | Jun 21 23:20 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | Use your smartphone to control Wilson the IoT hat | Arduino Blog ⚓ https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/06/21/use-your-smartphone-to-control-wilson-the-iot-hat/ ䷉ #Arduino #Hardware #OpenHardware #Hacking | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/21/#latest | Jun 21 23:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | Use your smartphone to control Wilson the IoT hat | Arduino Blog | Jun 21 23:23 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | "When people talk about censorship they'll talk about Social Media giants like Facebook and Twitter, but the true evil of the internet are the payment processors they are the ones truely [sic] in control." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUGCg0B-h_U | Jun 21 23:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Payment Processors Are The True Internet Evil - YouTube | Jun 21 23:24 | |
| activelow | "In terms of the size of the routing table, it’s as if the exhaustion of IPv4 addresses has not happened at all!", yes and IPv6 probably will blow up BGP routing tables further | Jun 21 23:25 |
| techrights-bot/fn | "easy to remember DNS server" = #spyware / #malware (YOU are the PRODUCT!) https://dwaves.de/2021/06/21/fastest-alternatives-to-googles-dns-servers-for-starlink-users-how-to-manually-dig-test-dns-nameservers/ | Jun 21 23:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-» Fastest alternatives to Google’s DNS servers for StarLink users – how to manually dig-test dns nameservers | dwaves.de | Jun 21 23:25 | |
| activelow | as I understand this BGP is a full mesh-grid protocol (each interncontinental node connected with each other), and regardless of increased data rates the BGP routing tables sizes shouldn't have increased | Jun 21 23:26 |
| activelow | this indicates severe mismanagement of the internet backbone | Jun 21 23:26 |
| techrights-bot/fn | #AMD SEV/SEV-ES Local Migration Support Patches For Linux - Phoronix ⚓ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMD-SEV-Local-Migration ䷉ #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux 🐧 | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/21/#latest | Jun 21 23:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AMD SEV/SEV-ES Local Migration Support Patches For Linux - Phoronix | Jun 21 23:26 | |
| activelow | https://blog.apnic.net/2020/01/14/bgp-in-2019-the-bgp-table/ | Jun 21 23:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.apnic.net | BGP in 2019 - The BGP Table | APNIC Blog | Jun 21 23:29 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | #Freenode and American imperialism. https://flossexperiences.wordpress.com/2021/06/22/accessibility-freenode-and-american-imperialism/ "You either put it on your desktop somewhere (insecure) or store it in the clown somewhere (somewhat secure but again need to remember that password), whatever you do is extra work." | Jun 21 23:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-flossexperiences.wordpress.com | Accessibility, Freenode and American imperialism. – Experiences in the community | Jun 21 23:30 | |
| XRevan86 | Not sure if scientes is around, but just in case: https://youtu.be/du5q_Jpk2rQ | Jun 21 23:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Борис Гребенщиков. Песня про наводнение в Керчи (Пародия) - YouTube | Jun 21 23:31 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | "Monday was the first day of #Akademy 2021 BoFs, group sessions and hacking." http://www.tuxmachines.org/comment/reply/152494 #kde | Jun 21 23:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE: Akademy, KNewStuff, and digiKam | Tux Machines | Jun 21 23:32 | |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: Борис Shakur? | Jun 21 23:32 |
| Ariadne | activelow: a lot of the problem is that noob netops don't aggregate netblocks, and ARIN is now issuing /24s directly | Jun 21 23:32 |
| schestowitz | wow | Jun 21 23:33 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: It's a parody on Boris Grebenshchikov commending on a recent event in Crimea. | Jun 21 23:33 |
| schestowitz | I lost track of Russia politics | Jun 21 23:34 |
| XRevan86 | scientes definitely heard at least one of his song, so he'll appreciate the style too | Jun 21 23:34 |
| schestowitz | no Meduza for 30 days in 2 days from no | Jun 21 23:34 |
| XRevan86 | https://youtu.be/v3RQ6x9qD8w this one in particular | Jun 21 23:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Аквариум - Поезд в огне (Official Video) - YouTube | Jun 21 23:34 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | #Zimbabwe https://www.chronicle.co.zw/president-signals-end-to-drugs-gun-crime/ "drug kingpins, drug peddlers, and gun-toting robbers" | Jun 21 23:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.chronicle.co.zw | President signals end to drugs, gun crime | The Chronicle | Jun 21 23:35 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | #Emmabuntus DE4-rc1 is out. #debian #gnu #linux based from #france http://emmabuntus.org/ (fr) | Jun 21 23:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-emmabuntus.org | Emmabuntüs – Collectif pour le réemploi des ordinateurs et distribution Linux basée sur Debian | Jun 21 23:36 | |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Meduza didn't cover this anyway | Jun 21 23:36 |
| schestowitz | meduza halted operations (in English) in May 23th as far as I am concerned | Jun 21 23:36 |
| XRevan86 | https://dm.reddit.com/r/normaldayinrussia/comments/o1usja | Jun 21 23:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dm.reddit.com | Head of Crimea Aksenov, drifting in the flooded Kerch. "Emergency Situations Ministry employees are sailing behind the boat, they are in a hurry to the hospital substation." Swimmers in uniform are not lifeguards, the Ministry of Emergency Situations said. "They are" happy and contented ", they did : normaldayinrussia | Jun 21 23:37 | |
| schestowitz | following sites using social control media or bookmarks is difficult | Jun 21 23:37 |
| XRevan86 | Speaking of… https://nitter.snopyta.org/meduza_en/rss | Jun 21 23:38 |
| XRevan86 | a compromise solution | Jun 21 23:38 |
| schestowitz | haha. no, social control media | Jun 21 23:39 |
| schestowitz | also, no full text or excerpts | Jun 21 23:39 |
| schestowitz | RSSS was always a lot better | Jun 21 23:39 |
| schestowitz | but it was not controlled centrally | Jun 21 23:39 |
| schestowitz | so you know who stands to benefit from controlling subs | Jun 21 23:39 |
| schestowitz | youtube now hides channels and "content" from people WHO subscribe to them | Jun 21 23:39 |
| schestowitz | GoogleKnowsBest(TM) | Jun 21 23:40 |
| schestowitz | DoKnowEvil? | Jun 21 23:40 |
| schestowitz | it's like google superseding your RSS reader's preferences | Jun 21 23:40 |
| schestowitz | to interjects feeds into them, based on Google's (and partners') interests | Jun 21 23:41 |
| schestowitz | while hiding "bad" feeds from you | Jun 21 23:41 |
| schestowitz | that you subscribed to | Jun 21 23:41 |
| activelow | Ariadne: handing out /24 wouldn't be necessary if a sane topology was in place | Jun 21 23:42 |
| MinceR | Be Evil.™ | Jun 21 23:42 |
| activelow | i am not entirely sure how layer2 topology is "managed" nowadays, historically it was the job of monopolized telco | Jun 21 23:43 |
| MinceR | and the Alphabet version: Don't Do The Right Thing.™ | Jun 21 23:43 |
| activelow | it is noteworthy too since KabelDeutschland was sold from German Telecom to Vodafone UK since then Vodafone DENIES to provide me with an IPv6 at least, with the argument the Thompson modem couldn't support it | Jun 21 23:44 |
| kingoffrance | eh, i am about 1/2 way through l0derview i see culture wars, not much direct tech. so i kind of think there is not much to discuss unless ppl want to go to social. it was/is inevitable, and things are pretty much exactly the same they always were | Jun 21 23:44 |
| activelow | which is nonsense, since formerly German Telecom when KabelDeutschland was under their hood did provide me with IPv6 at least | Jun 21 23:44 |
| XRevan86 | kingoffrance: "and things are pretty much exactly the same they always were" – huh? | Jun 21 23:46 |
| XRevan86 | I wonder what's going on on Snoonet, as I suspect that that network lost its reason to exist. | Jun 21 23:49 |
| XRevan86 | freenode is now Libera, Snoonet is now freenode | Jun 21 23:49 |
| kingoffrance | well lee and l0de imply open source people were taking over freenode, which is probably a common view here, but it wasnt about mods or channels so much as general larger EEE. yet freenode still champions "foss" and use the term, etc. i.e. it seems they didnt like what they thought was particular people, less about the term itself, or EEE or licensing etc. | Jun 21 23:50 |
| kingoffrance | *yet here it isnt about mods or channels so much as general larger EEE | Jun 21 23:50 |
| MinceR | is that "open source" in opposition to "free software"? | Jun 21 23:50 |
| kingoffrance | yeah thats what i mean, they didnt go into that | Jun 21 23:50 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: No, "Big FOSS" | Jun 21 23:50 |
| kingoffrance | that too :/ | Jun 21 23:50 |
| MinceR | it's hard to interpret what they mean as they don't really explain it | Jun 21 23:51 |
| kingoffrance | ^ | Jun 21 23:51 |
| MinceR | what's "big FOSS"? | Jun 21 23:51 |
| schestowitz | KapOSS | Jun 21 23:51 |
| schestowitz | Kapo | Jun 21 23:51 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: No one knows. | Jun 21 23:51 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 21 23:51 |
| schestowitz | David Kappos | Jun 21 23:51 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: But roughly it means the FOSS that didn't support rasengan | Jun 21 23:51 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/David_Kappos | Jun 21 23:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | David Kappos - Techrights | Jun 21 23:51 | |
| kingoffrance | i feel like t-rex showed up, and cornered me, and then velicoraptors swooped in. so, let the culture ppl duke it out | Jun 21 23:51 |
| XRevan86 | i.e. in its entirety including FSF | Jun 21 23:51 |
| schestowitz | and dare I say https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kapo | Jun 21 23:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Kapo - Wikipedia | Jun 21 23:51 | |
| schestowitz | seems Freenode is owned by people who reject FOSS | Jun 21 23:52 |
| XRevan86 | I'm curious what opinion rasengan has on RMS now. | Jun 21 23:52 |
| schestowitz | the free in freenode is, afaik, a reference to free software | Jun 21 23:52 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: It definitely was. | Jun 21 23:52 |
| XRevan86 | That's what freenode was about. | Jun 21 23:52 |
| MinceR | for a while | Jun 21 23:52 |
| kingoffrance | (the velicoraptors jumped on the t-rex, giving ppl a short window of escape) | Jun 21 23:53 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Until May 2021 | Jun 21 23:53 |
| schestowitz | Kape on Freenode: http://techrights.org/2019/07/31/jim-zemlin-open-source-loves-microsoft/ | Jun 21 23:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Jim Zemlin: Open Source Loves Microsoft | Techrights | Jun 21 23:53 | |
| MinceR | XRevan86: more like march | Jun 21 23:53 |
| XRevan86 | I don't know what freenode is about now. What was Snoonet about? | Jun 21 23:53 |
| kingoffrance | (other way around, doesnt matter) | Jun 21 23:53 |
| MinceR | i don't think anyone knows | Jun 21 23:53 |
| MinceR | snoonet was probably about reddit | Jun 21 23:54 |
| psymin | snoonet was about reddit or something | Jun 21 23:54 |
| psymin | jinx! | Jun 21 23:54 |
| Ariadne | snoo is the reddit mascot afaik | Jun 21 23:54 |
| MinceR | + | Jun 21 23:54 |
| XRevan86 | https://snoonet.org/posts/2021/06/20/updates-to-irc-com-infrastructure/ oh hey, another post | Jun 21 23:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-snoonet.org | Snoonet · Updates to IRC.com infrastructure | Jun 21 23:54 | |
| XRevan86 | it has different content than the other two | Jun 21 23:55 |
| activelow | Microsoft Teams and Skype emerging is a direct consequenc of Telco privatization too | Jun 21 23:55 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: though i suspect the signers were already against free software before then | Jun 21 23:55 |
| XRevan86 | Ariadne, psydroid, MinceR: Hm, freenode will not be about that probably… | Jun 21 23:55 |
| MinceR | reddit? | Jun 21 23:56 |
| XRevan86 | Jun 21 23:56 | |
| Ariadne | the 'free' in freenode now refers to 'free speech' | Jun 21 23:56 |
| Ariadne | except they g-line anyone who says stuff they dislike | Jun 21 23:56 |
| Ariadne | so, thats pretty funny | Jun 21 23:56 |
| MinceR | free g-lines for free speech. | Jun 21 23:57 |
| *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) | Jun 21 23:57 | |
| Ariadne | yeah i told them | Jun 21 23:57 |
| Ariadne | they should go with 'gong show' format | Jun 21 23:57 |
| Ariadne | g-line the chatters who aren't chatting hard enough | Jun 21 23:57 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 21 23:57 |
| activelow | people socializing in web forums instead of newsgroups too since when Telco and Universities shut down their nntp services after they were privatized | Jun 21 23:58 |
| techrights-bot/fn | #Kernel Work and #Linux #Foundation • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152541 #ZemlinPAC #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 21 23:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel Work and Linux Foundation | Tux Machines | Jun 21 23:58 | |
| XRevan86 | > Roosevelt and Stalin are at the meeting. Roosevelt says, "One beautiful thing about America is that we have freedom of speech. That means that anybody can stand in front of the White House and say, 'Roosevelt is a piece of shit' and nobody would pay any attention." Stalin says, "We have freedom of speech in the Soviet Union too. Anybody can stand in front of the Kremlin and say, 'Roosevelt is a piec | Jun 21 23:58 |
| XRevan86 | e of shit' and no one would bat an eye." | Jun 21 23:58 |
| cybrNaut/fn | why is everyone appearing on the other side of a bridge now? | Jun 21 23:58 |
| XRevan86 | cybrNaut: Good morning, Mr. Freeman | Jun 21 23:58 |
| XRevan86 | cybrNaut: tl;dr: freenode is not to be relied on. | Jun 21 23:59 |
| MinceR | there were disturbances in the operation of freenode | Jun 21 23:59 |
| Ariadne | thats a very... generous way of describing what happened :D | Jun 21 23:59 |
| MinceR | for i am kind. | Jun 21 23:59 |
| kingoffrance | lol XRevan86 | Jun 21 23:59 |
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