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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: I have extended to length of logs | Jun 20 00:17 |
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| schestowitz | 1070 lines | Jun 20 00:17 |
| DaemonFC | "Sat 22:46:11 [activelow] And this is the loophole: the abandoned social legislation was replaced with the common ideological lunacy (gender,race,climate, etc) to match workers with jobs" | Jun 20 00:17 |
| schestowitz | and it shows the day of the week to avoid confusion | Jun 20 00:17 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: don't talk about race here | Jun 20 00:18 |
| schestowitz | take it to social | Jun 20 00:18 |
| DaemonFC | According to LeVar Burton, accountability culture means if you have an unpopular opinion, good luck getting a job to feed yourself with. | Jun 20 00:18 |
| DaemonFC | They'll plaster what you say on Facebook all over your company's Shitter or something and you're gone. | Jun 20 00:18 |
| DaemonFC | It doesn't even matter if you said it at work or on company time or in your work uniform or not. | Jun 20 00:19 |
| DaemonFC | mjg59 is safe on Shitter because he has the prevailing odious opinions. | Jun 20 00:19 |
| schestowitz | OK, now back on topic | Jun 20 00:20 |
| schestowitz | I just upload a video at the moment | Jun 20 00:20 |
| schestowitz | it's about patent courts | Jun 20 00:20 |
| CrystalMath | today i accidentally tried to launch schestowitz instead of schismtracker | Jun 20 00:20 |
| schestowitz | lol | Jun 20 00:21 |
| DaemonFC | They claim to be very progressive at tech companies but many of them post under pseudonyms on places like the daily stormer because they need to purge. | Jun 20 00:21 |
| schestowitz | what is schismtracker? | Jun 20 00:21 |
| CrystalMath | some music tracker software :) | Jun 20 00:21 |
| schestowitz | schism | Jun 20 00:21 |
| CrystalMath | but you know you're on techrights too much when you do something like that | Jun 20 00:21 |
| schestowitz | which reminds me, it has been weeks since Tim was available to record TechBytes | Jun 20 00:22 |
| schestowitz | we'll get back to it soon, he has kids | Jun 20 00:22 |
| DaemonFC | Cancel Culture and not worrying about how blue collar workers are getting along will eventually bite off more than it can chew when the next insurrection succeeds. | Jun 20 00:22 |
| schestowitz | we have some music tracks for future shows | Jun 20 00:22 |
| DaemonFC | Roy compared the first one to a dress rehearsal. | Jun 20 00:22 |
| schestowitz | they say the first coup often fails | Jun 20 00:23 |
| DaemonFC | It was only hours old and the only reason it went on that long is because the sitting president was in the White House laughing about it and refusing to call in law enforcement. | Jun 20 00:23 |
| schestowitz | but then it happens again | Jun 20 00:23 |
| schestowitz | and they learn from the error of the firsy | Jun 20 00:24 |
| schestowitz | The US now has its own Krystalnacht | Jun 20 00:24 |
| DaemonFC | I was sitting here watching going "What do you mean the state governors are sending in the National Guard?". | Jun 20 00:24 |
| schestowitz | Kristallnacht | Jun 20 00:25 |
| schestowitz | I knew I had spelled it wrong. | Jun 20 00:25 |
| DaemonFC | That's unprecedented. States having to occupy the federal district. | Jun 20 00:25 |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kristallnacht | Jun 20 00:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Kristallnacht - Wikipedia | Jun 20 00:25 | |
| DaemonFC | Legally, there's no way they can do that. The president has to request their help, and he was sitting there watching Fox News laughing while those people tore up Congress. | Jun 20 00:26 |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_of_the_Long_Knives | Jun 20 00:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Night of the Long Knives - Wikipedia | Jun 20 00:26 | |
| schestowitz | anyway DaemonFC, it's not what this channel is supposed to be for | Jun 20 00:27 |
| DaemonFC | Parler's back. | Jun 20 00:27 |
| DaemonFC | Apple pretty much just let them back in when it figured nobody was looking anymore. | Jun 20 00:27 |
| DaemonFC | Although I'm sure there's a reason for that. It's obviously a honeypot now. | Jun 20 00:28 |
| saint_dogbert/fn | also helped when documents came to light that Parler had been cooperating with the FBI | Jun 20 00:28 |
| schestowitz | Apple worries more about its image | Jun 20 00:29 |
| schestowitz | not politics | Jun 20 00:29 |
| schestowitz | profits | Jun 20 00:29 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, when it's their ass in the sling or yours, watch how fast they turn you over. | Jun 20 00:29 |
| MinceR | (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVYqB0uTKlE | Jun 20 00:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why the UK is in the EU - YouTube | Jun 20 00:40 | |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2021/06/19/epo-eba-court-of-public-opinion/ | Jun 20 00:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EPO’s Enlarged Board of Appeal Has Already Lost the Case in the Court of Public Opinion | Techrights | Jun 20 00:46 | |
| schestowitz | Ariadne: just remember that tech issues aren't typically a purely political things and framing them as such distracts us from mostly apolitical (in the wing sense) matters | Jun 20 00:47 |
| schestowitz | such as patents, which aren't a wing thing, but bipartisan business-led thing | Jun 20 00:47 |
| schestowitz | FN/LC became a partly political thing, not a technical thing | Jun 20 00:48 |
| schestowitz | at first I thought it was just LC | Jun 20 00:48 |
| schestowitz | and now it turns out the same is true for FN | Jun 20 00:48 |
| schestowitz | because the beans got spilled in the open | Jun 20 00:49 |
| schestowitz | which is why we're interested in neither | Jun 20 00:49 |
| MinceR | oftc is the same as lc | Jun 20 00:49 |
| schestowitz | both are not hospitable to some views, and that can also be slanted based on politics | Jun 20 00:49 |
| schestowitz | to justify manipulation of the discourse | Jun 20 00:49 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: yes, same staff | Jun 20 00:49 |
| schestowitz | former freenode staff (overlap) | Jun 20 00:49 |
| schestowitz | oftc is fanta | Jun 20 00:50 |
| schestowitz | to coke | Jun 20 00:50 |
| schestowitz | another brand | Jun 20 00:50 |
| schestowitz | for some purposes | Jun 20 00:50 |
| techrights-bot/fn | #Debian 10.10 release 202106191548 • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152468 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 20 00:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian 10.10 release 202106191548 | Tux Machines | Jun 20 00:54 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | #Google #Android Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152469 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 20 00:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 20 00:55 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | #Debian GNU/Linux 10.10 “Buster” Released with 55 Security Updates and 81 Bug Fixes • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152470 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 20 00:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian GNU/Linux 10.10 “Buster” Released with 55 Security Updates and 81 Bug Fixes | Tux Machines | Jun 20 00:55 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | ##HowTo Make #LibreOffice Look Like Microsoft Office • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152471 #TuxMachines | Jun 20 00:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How to Make LibreOffice Look Like Microsoft Office | Tux Machines | Jun 20 00:56 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | Virtual Injustice — Part 12: Carl Josefsson – Down But Not Out! http://techrights.org/2021/06/19/carl-josefsson-in-the-shadows/ #epo #corruption #kangaroocourts #patent #haar | Jun 20 00:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Virtual Injustice — Part 12: Carl Josefsson – Down But Not Out! | Techrights | Jun 20 00:56 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | The EPO’s Enlarged Board of Appeal Has Already Lost the Case in the Court of Public Opinion http://techrights.org/2021/06/19/epo-eba-court-of-public-opinion/ #epo #eboa #patents #europe #patent | Jun 20 00:56 |
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| techrights-bot/fn | #ibm - by buying #redhat - infiltrated #gnu and now vainly claims that GNU is IBM and thus IBM et al can tell the #FSF who should run FSF and GNU. #entryism | Jun 20 01:07 |
| techrights-bot/fn | #freesoftware is an incredibly valuable assets, says Leonid Radvinsky https://thebossmagazine.com/understanding-open-source-funding/ | Jun 20 01:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thebossmagazine.com | Understanding open source funding: how investors like Leonid Radvinsky are helping the movement | BOSS Magazine | Jun 20 01:09 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152472 | Jun 20 01:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 20 01:11 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | Theme Hospital game engine reimplementation #CorsixTH 0.65 is out now | GamingOnLinux ⚓ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/06/theme-hospital-game-engine-reimplementation-corsixth-065-is-out-now ䷉ #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games | Jun 20 01:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Theme Hospital game engine reimplementation CorsixTH 0.65 is out now | GamingOnLinux | Jun 20 01:15 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | Today in #Techrights • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152473 | Jun 20 01:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jun 20 01:15 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | #GemRB 0.9.0, the game engine reimplementation for the likes of Baldur's Gate | GamingOnLinux ⚓ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/06/gemrb-090-the-game-engine-reimplementation-for-the-likes-of-baldurs-gate ䷉ #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games | Jun 20 01:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GemRB 0.9.0, the game engine reimplementation for the likes of Baldur's Gate | GamingOnLinux | Jun 20 01:16 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | Free and open source evolution game Thrive 0.5.4 is out now with cell colonies | GamingOnLinux ⚓ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/06/free-and-open-source-evolution-game-thrive-054-is-out-now-with-cell-colonies #deletegithub #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware #monopoly | Jun 20 01:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Free and open source evolution game Thrive 0.5.4 is out now with cell colonies | GamingOnLinux | Jun 20 01:17 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | Why do #youtube channels keep selling out with #marketing BS? Or with loaded titles? Maybe underproduction? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKCtKVY_g48 | Jun 20 01:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Slimbook Titan - a Portable Powerhouse running Linux - YouTube | Jun 20 01:17 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | "I use terminals for a lot of what I do and technically a terminal can be used to do everything you could ever want but unless you're insane a mouse and a GUI is sometimes just more convenient." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KlF0yY6DXo | Jun 20 01:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Terminals Are Amazing But Not For Everything - YouTube | Jun 20 01:18 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | " #RedcoreLinux is a distribution based on #Gentoo but aims to provide a user-friendly installation. #Redcore targets the casual Linux user but is also appropriate for power users. It comes with #KDE Plasma and a nice suite of programs including gaming, multimedia and office software." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFs9accYV2c | Jun 20 01:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Redcore Linux Makes Gentoo User Friendly - YouTube | Jun 20 01:19 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | Personal views on the sordid state of the Enlarged Board of Appeal (EBoA), which by extension bodes poorly for the perception of independence in every Board of Appeal (BoA) • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/06/19/epo-eba-court-of-public-opinion/ ䷉ #Techrights #EPO #Europe #Corruption #Patents | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights. <clipped message> | Jun 20 01:21 |
| techrights-bot/fn | org/2021/06/19/epo-eba-court-of-public- | Jun 20 01:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EPO’s Enlarged Board of Appeal Has Already Lost the Case in the Court of Public Opinion | Techrights | Jun 20 01:21 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | António Campinos still controls Josefsson, who controls all the judges, so in effect all the legal cases (including some about European software patents) are manipulated by the Office the judges are supposed to judge • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/06/19/carl-josefsson-in-the-shadows/ ䷉ #Techrights #EPO #Europe #Corruption #Patents | ♾ <clipped message> | Jun 20 01:21 |
| techrights-bot/fn | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrig | Jun 20 01:21 |
| techrights-bot/fn | #microsoft and #google promote Microsoft- and Google-controlled (Mozilla and Github) language inside #linux #kernel https://tech.slashdot.org/story/21/06/19/0526255/google-funds-linux-kernel-development-in-rust | Jun 20 01:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tech.slashdot.org | Google Funds Linux Kernel Development in Rust - Slashdot | Jun 20 01:24 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | Linux Foundation rewrites history about an operation system 38 years old https://linux.slashdot.org/story/21/06/19/011247/linux-foundation-honors-authors-of-30-linux-success-stories-by-letting-them-name-a-penguin | Jun 20 01:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.slashdot.org | Linux Foundation Honors Authors of 30 Linux Success Stories By Letting Them Name a Penguin - Slashdot | Jun 20 01:27 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | ...an operating system 38 years old http://techrights.org/2021/04/30/gnu-linux-turning-38/ #gnu #linux | Jun 20 01:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Show Your Love for the GNU Operating System With These Banners | Techrights | Jun 20 01:28 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | Audiocasts/Shows: Redcore Linux, Terminals, Slimbook and More • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152474 | Jun 20 01:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Audiocasts/Shows: Redcore Linux, Terminals, Slimbook and More | Tux Machines | Jun 20 01:33 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | #Games : CorsixTH, GemRB, and Thrive • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152475 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 20 01:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: CorsixTH, GemRB, and Thrive | Tux Machines | Jun 20 01:35 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | #openSUSE Tumbleweed – Review of the week 2021/24 - Dominique a.k.a. DimStar (Dim*) ⚓ http://dominique.leuenberger.net/blog/2021/06/opensuse-tumbleweed-review-of-the-week-2021-24/ ䷉ #dominiqueLeuenberger #suse | Jun 20 01:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dominique.leuenberger.net | openSUSE Tumbleweed – Review of the week 2021/24 – Dominique a.k.a. DimStar (Dim*) | Jun 20 01:36 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | Don't allow people who work/ed for evil corporations like #intel #microsoft #google and #ibm lecture you about #ethics .... more likely those are just blatant projection tactics | Jun 20 01:40 |
| techrights-bot/fn | #ibm is in a freefall and most tech companies are still operating in debt, i.e. they're failing companies propped up by VCs or their own governments (public purse/taxpayers bailing them out, annually) | Jun 20 01:41 |
| techrights-bot/fn | #Pittsburgh Resilient Coders is bringing its free and equity-minded coding bootcamp to Pittsburgh - Technical.ly Pittsburgh ⚓ https://technical.ly/pittsburgh/2021/06/17/resilient-coders-free-bootcamp/ ䷉ #programming | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/20/#latest | Jun 20 01:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Technical.ly Pittsburgh Resilient Coders is bringing its free and equity-minded coding bootcamp to Pittsburgh - Technical.ly Pittsburgh | Jun 20 01:42 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts | Jun 20 01:42 | |
| DaemonFC | https://hardware.slashdot.org/story/21/06/19/2122221/some-texans-surprised-their-smart-thermostats-are-being-raised-remotely | Jun 20 01:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hardware.slashdot.org | Some Texans Surprised Their Smart Thermostats Are Being Raised Remotely - Slashdot | Jun 20 01:43 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Backdoored thermostats = Smart. | Jun 20 01:43 |
| techrights-bot/fn | "POISON"... "COFFIN"... this is classic #dailyFail ... remember what awful and tasteless things they did about #corbyn https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-9704175/DAN-HODGES-Whos-spreading-poison-final-nail-Keir-Starmers-coffin.html | Jun 20 01:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dailymail.co.uk | DAN HODGES: Who's spreading the poison that could put the final nail in Keir Starmer's coffin? | Daily Mail Online | Jun 20 01:43 | |
| DaemonFC | Have fun roasting under the Texas sun for a chance to win a small prize. :) | Jun 20 01:43 |
| techrights-bot/fn | #OpenMediaVault : #OMV6 preview is available • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152476 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 20 01:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OpenMediaVault: OMV6 preview is available | Tux Machines | Jun 20 01:44 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: smart means "intelligent" | Jun 20 01:44 |
| schestowitz | as in intel agencies | Jun 20 01:44 |
| schestowitz | they love those things | Jun 20 01:44 |
| schestowitz | they even have a complete log of when you were home and out of home | Jun 20 01:45 |
| DaemonFC | Nobody can control my air conditioner except me. | Jun 20 01:45 |
| schestowitz | that too can be used as evidence in conviction | Jun 20 01:45 |
| DaemonFC | It's gotta be from at least the 1980s. | Jun 20 01:45 |
| schestowitz | "according to your "smart meter" you could not possibly be at home..." | Jun 20 01:45 |
| DaemonFC | My "smart meter" wouldn't register much of a difference either way. | Jun 20 01:45 |
| DaemonFC | My laptop uses, at most, 28 watts. | Jun 20 01:45 |
| techrights-bot/fn | #surveillance #smartShit #backdoor #remotecontrol #oppression https://hardware.slashdot.org/story/21/06/19/2122221/some-texans-surprised-their-smart-thermostats-are-being-raised-remotely | Jun 20 01:46 |
| DaemonFC | But usually more like ~10 maybe? | Jun 20 01:46 |
| schestowitz | makes sense | Jun 20 01:47 |
| schestowitz | what I like about laptops is, no need to UPS | Jun 20 01:47 |
| schestowitz | but the router can come down in outages | Jun 20 01:47 |
| schestowitz | though it only impacts connectivity | Jun 20 01:48 |
| schestowitz | now in summer I can also take a small laptop to the back and get some stuff done in the sun | Jun 20 01:48 |
| kingoffrance | well, that is supposedly something they can do even without smart things. power usage, water bill, etc. smart just makes it easier perhaps | Jun 20 01:48 |
| DaemonFC | They're all reasonably fast now. | Jun 20 01:48 |
| DaemonFC | Intel more than doubled the GPU speed in Tiger Lake vs. previously. | Jun 20 01:48 |
| schestowitz | my energy supplier sent an alarming email some days ago | Jun 20 01:49 |
| DaemonFC | So it's more than fast enough to run something like GTA V or Borderlands 3. | Jun 20 01:49 |
| schestowitz | saying I hadn't sent readings for 10 months | Jun 20 01:49 |
| DaemonFC | Even cranked up pretty high. | Jun 20 01:49 |
| kingoffrance | that was supposedly what "PROMIS" could do, coordinate all that | Jun 20 01:49 |
| schestowitz | they know darn well they need to send out a person, as they did 2 months ago | Jun 20 01:49 |
| schestowitz | and we PAY EXTRA for it | Jun 20 01:49 |
| kingoffrance | and that was like late 80s, early 90s supposedly, used to track terrorists supposedly | Jun 20 01:49 |
| DaemonFC | <schestowitz> and we PAY EXTRA for it | Jun 20 01:49 |
| schestowitz | I should rant aboyt this pubicly, wait... | Jun 20 01:49 |
| DaemonFC | Wow, paying for something you don't get. Modern! | Jun 20 01:49 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, We went by McDonalds today for the first time in a while. I just didn't feel like cooking anything. | Jun 20 01:50 |
| DaemonFC | So the lobby is closed because everyone is on unemployment. | Jun 20 01:50 |
| DaemonFC | COVID is basically gone, and the lobby could legally open with nobody wearing masks anymore, except nobody will apply. | Jun 20 01:50 |
| DaemonFC | So we get in the drive thru, going clear around the restaurant, which at least did move reasonably fast. | Jun 20 01:51 |
| DaemonFC | And the guy working there didn't know what a "Classic Big Mac Pack" was. That's something they had on their menu like a month ago, and you can still order it even though it's not listed anymore. | Jun 20 01:51 |
| techrights-bot/fn | Our energy supplier, #eON (which we NEVER chose, it took over #npower really!) sent an alarming email some days ago, saying we hadn't sent meter readings for 10 months (false)... they know darn well they need to send out a person, who last did this 2 months ago. This is what we asked for and we PAY EXTRA for it. They should stop intimidating clients who ALREADY pay extra for SERVICE. | Jun 20 01:52 |
| DaemonFC | So I had to get his manager to explain to him how to ring that up. | Jun 20 01:52 |
| schestowitz | you pay extra to NOT get something | Jun 20 01:53 |
| schestowitz | which they say is "free" | Jun 20 01:53 |
| schestowitz | and you become the products | Jun 20 01:53 |
| DaemonFC | How do you still have electric if they haven't sent you a bill in 10 months? | Jun 20 01:53 |
| DaemonFC | Shouldn't you have noticed that it was piling up and you didn't get bills, or do they estimate them? | Jun 20 01:53 |
| schestowitz | I've been fighting this excessive 'tech' creep a lot lately | Jun 20 01:54 |
| schestowitz | http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/06/15/brexit-systemic-racism/ | Jun 20 01:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » National Government and Local Councils Give the Middle Finger to EU Citizens Long Settled in the United Kingdom | Jun 20 01:54 | |
| schestowitz | http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/06/12/uk-home-office-eu-mobile/ | Jun 20 01:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Ongoing Investigation: Does the UK Home Office ‘Force’ EU Citizens to Carry Around Tracking Devices? | Jun 20 01:54 | |
| MinceR | "No John, you are the demons" | Jun 20 01:54 |
| schestowitz | Older: http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/04/21/manchester-town-hall-complaint/ | Jun 20 01:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Manchester Town Hall Complaint (Updated) | Jun 20 01:54 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: it was false | Jun 20 01:54 |
| schestowitz | they did check 2 months ago | Jun 20 01:54 |
| DaemonFC | They don't feel like coming out and so the guy goes fuck it and estimates a reading. | Jun 20 01:54 |
| schestowitz | and charged us like twice over | Jun 20 01:54 |
| DaemonFC | Says there was a dog or something. | Jun 20 01:55 |
| schestowitz | for incorrect estimates of theirs | Jun 20 01:55 |
| schestowitz | maybe they sent out 'template' emails | Jun 20 01:55 |
| schestowitz | we never sent them readings | Jun 20 01:55 |
| schestowitz | it's not my job | Jun 20 01:55 |
| schestowitz | BTW, I never used 'self-checkout' either | Jun 20 01:55 |
| schestowitz | if they force me to, goodbye | Jun 20 01:55 |
| DaemonFC | Communist Edison has a method to email them your meter readings if you don't have a smart meter. | Jun 20 01:55 |
| DaemonFC | But they really lean on you to get a smart meter. | Jun 20 01:55 |
| DaemonFC | Charging you a different rate if you don't. | Jun 20 01:56 |
| DaemonFC | Plus you don't get "voltage optimization". | Jun 20 01:56 |
| schestowitz | they now say govermment regulation will force you to | Jun 20 01:56 |
| schestowitz | some time in like 4 years | Jun 20 01:56 |
| schestowitz | but if enough of us reject it, that will never pull it off | Jun 20 01:56 |
| schestowitz | same for cash rejection | Jun 20 01:56 |
| DaemonFC | Apparently, optimization can save you 10% of your electric bill. | Jun 20 01:56 |
| schestowitz | they mostly use lies and FUD | Jun 20 01:56 |
| schestowitz | to intimidate people | Jun 20 01:56 |
| DaemonFC | It used to be something they could only do for industrial customers. | Jun 20 01:56 |
| schestowitz | the estimates "MIGHT BE WRONG" | Jun 20 01:56 |
| schestowitz | you "MAY BE OVERPAYING" | Jun 20 01:57 |
| schestowitz | they don't say underpaying | Jun 20 01:57 |
| schestowitz | which is also a possibility | Jun 20 01:57 |
| DaemonFC | Electric has been the one bit of good news in the last 20 years in this country. | Jun 20 01:57 |
| DaemonFC | Despite the cost of everything else doubling or tripling, electric bills tend to cost half of what they did. | Jun 20 01:57 |
| schestowitz | we mostly use electricity for our computers. And appliances that aren't kitchen. | Jun 20 01:58 |
| schestowitz | 10 screens give me enough light, I rarely turn the bulbs on | Jun 20 01:58 |
| DaemonFC | A lot of the savings are just things not using much power anymore. | Jun 20 01:58 |
| DaemonFC | No more CRTs for monitors and TVs, more people using laptops or phones and tablets, LCD lighting. | Jun 20 01:58 |
| schestowitz | yes, laptops are more efficient | Jun 20 01:59 |
| schestowitz | they have to be | Jun 20 01:59 |
| schestowitz | because of battery life benchmarks | Jun 20 01:59 |
| schestowitz | they are also quieter | Jun 20 01:59 |
| DaemonFC | It's not worth it to run inefficient electric generation anymore. | Jun 20 01:59 |
| DaemonFC | So coal is going belly up. | Jun 20 01:59 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▆▅▅▆▃▅▄▁▅▅▆▆▅▃▅▆█▅▅▃▄▅▅▅▇▅▅█▆▅▅▅▁ avg(k/sec) 27.98 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▂▂▂▁▁▂▁█▁▁▂▁▁▃▁▂▁▂▂▁▁▁▂▁▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▁ avg(k/sec) 10.56▕ swarm size (avg): 299.03 ⟲ | Jun 20 01:59 |
| schestowitz | esp. SSD ones | Jun 20 01:59 |
| schestowitz | 4 laptops at 20 watts are less than some bulbs | Jun 20 01:59 |
| activelow | electricity is only ~20% of total energy requirements, and private households again is only ~20% of total electricity consumed | Jun 20 01:59 |
| schestowitz | the brighter bulbs | Jun 20 01:59 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, one reason I switched away from hard drives in 2016. | Jun 20 01:59 |
| schestowitz | flatscreens are about the same | Jun 20 02:00 |
| schestowitz | and they don't emit tons of heat and radiation like CRTs did | Jun 20 02:00 |
| schestowitz | rianne still uses a magnetic storage laptop | Jun 20 02:00 |
| DaemonFC | Even though my TV is a 4K set and 55" diameter, it uses less than 25% as much power as a 25 inch CRT used to. | Jun 20 02:00 |
| DaemonFC | Plus you can move it without tearing yourself a new hernia. | Jun 20 02:01 |
| schestowitz | lol | Jun 20 02:01 |
| activelow | that's why the data published about renewable energy is fraudulent, since it accounts for private households only (excluding industrial grid), and it accounts for electricity only (excluding petrol, heating etc) | Jun 20 02:01 |
| schestowitz | I got a screen free 3 days ago | Jun 20 02:01 |
| schestowitz | a friend no longer used his third monitor and wanted me to have it | Jun 20 02:02 |
| schestowitz | you can also buy second hand ones cheaply here | Jun 20 02:02 |
| schestowitz | 20-30 pounds | Jun 20 02:02 |
| DaemonFC | My dad tries to run everything he owns into the ground. | Jun 20 02:02 |
| schestowitz | less than your grocery basket | Jun 20 02:02 |
| DaemonFC | I told him my car has almost 300,000 miles on it and before he could say anything, Jan said hers has over half a million. | Jun 20 02:02 |
| schestowitz | Felta felt like he should not waste | Jun 20 02:02 |
| schestowitz | rianne's dad still drives a car from 1994 iirc | Jun 20 02:03 |
| DaemonFC | Well, it does make sense to just keep replacing a part here or there at what cars cost now. | Jun 20 02:03 |
| DaemonFC | Illinois passed more used car taxes on top of that. | Jun 20 02:03 |
| schestowitz | when you're old you might not want a brand new cars | Jun 20 02:03 |
| DaemonFC | They'll skin you alive on taxes and fees and everything. | Jun 20 02:03 |
| schestowitz | you drive until the old car stops working or becomes a "write-off" | Jun 20 02:03 |
| DaemonFC | At some point, something so bad happens to it that you sell the title for scrap. | Jun 20 02:04 |
| DaemonFC | They hand you a check for like $300-400 and you have done with it. | Jun 20 02:04 |
| DaemonFC | I figure I have a few years before we're there with the Impala. | Jun 20 02:04 |
| kingoffrance | MinceR, thats why you stick with flynn :) https://web.archive.org/web/20070101211201/http://horus.comlab.uni-rostock.de/flynn/ | Jun 20 02:04 |
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| schestowitz | govs should subsidise repairs of old cars | Jun 20 02:04 |
| schestowitz | but the automobile industry would lobby hard against that | Jun 20 02:05 |
| activelow | the "write-off" for electronics is too short, 3 years iirc in germany | Jun 20 02:05 |
| DaemonFC | Illinois doesn't. They charge an extra tax now on a used car to penalize you for buying one. | Jun 20 02:05 |
| DaemonFC | The used car dealers were fucking pissed. | Jun 20 02:05 |
| DaemonFC | I was talking to my mechanic. I said, "But I'll bet that was good for your business.". | Jun 20 02:05 |
| DaemonFC | Think about it. The government adds an extra $750-$1,000 penalty for buying a used car on top of the registration, title, and 10% sales tax. | Jun 20 02:06 |
| schestowitz | not the same | Jun 20 02:06 |
| DaemonFC | You may buy a used car, but once you do you don't want to pay that again for a while, so there's more incentive to fix it. | Jun 20 02:06 |
| schestowitz | not subsidising repairs | Jun 20 02:06 |
| schestowitz | the subsidies can prevent people looking to grow demand for more manufacturing | Jun 20 02:06 |
| schestowitz | extraction, pollution | Jun 20 02:06 |
| schestowitz | and for old cars that subsidy can be small | Jun 20 02:07 |
| schestowitz | like $500 for some car part | Jun 20 02:07 |
| DaemonFC | Yes, it's less wasteful to just patch them up. | Jun 20 02:07 |
| schestowitz | to give it another 3 years on the road | Jun 20 02:07 |
| schestowitz | 160 dollars a year | Jun 20 02:07 |
| DaemonFC | Other than a brake job this year, I've had to replace a tie rod end, a wheel bearing, and two stuts on the front axle. | Jun 20 02:07 |
| schestowitz | 13 dollars a month | Jun 20 02:07 |
| schestowitz | less than 50 cents a day | Jun 20 02:07 |
| schestowitz | and a lot less pollution | Jun 20 02:07 |
| DaemonFC | With modern high precision manufacturing, you'd think that engines would be running longer than ever, but they don't. | Jun 20 02:08 |
| MinceR | kingoffrance: lol | Jun 20 02:08 |
| saint_dogbert/fn | I dunno... I've got two with over 250,000 miles on them and still running strong | Jun 20 02:18 |
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| saint_dogbert/fn | never had to do anything but tuneups and clutches | Jun 20 02:18 |
| saint_dogbert/fn | One I can prove with a photo of the digital odometer | Jun 20 02:19 |
| MinceR | no oil changes? :> | Jun 20 02:19 |
| saint_dogbert/fn | if you want a photo | Jun 20 02:19 |
| saint_dogbert/fn | there is that stuff... not that many people seem to believe in oil changes | Jun 20 02:19 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 20 02:19 |
| saint_dogbert/fn | used to be a mechanic at a dealer... can't tell you how many people put off changing the oil | Jun 20 02:19 |
| saint_dogbert/fn | one woman bought a car brand new off the lot. put 60,000 miles on it without ever changing or adding oil | Jun 20 02:20 |
| saint_dogbert/fn | then got upset when the engine seized | Jun 20 02:20 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 20 02:20 |
| saint_dogbert/fn | she got livid when she found out the warranty doesn't cover that nonsense | Jun 20 02:20 |
| saint_dogbert/fn | still can't figure out how she got 60,000 out of it under those conditions. I thought at most, 15000 | Jun 20 02:21 |
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| DaemonFC | <saint_dogbert/fn> then got upset when the engine seized | Jun 20 02:23 |
| DaemonFC | We had one of them down the street when I was a kid. | Jun 20 02:23 |
| schestowitz | wow, half a million plus miles on two cars | Jun 20 02:23 |
| schestowitz | incredible | Jun 20 02:23 |
| DaemonFC | They were like "Stupid piece of shit, nobody told us anything about oil changes.". | Jun 20 02:23 |
| saint_dogbert/fn | seriously... lemme go grab a photo of the odometer | Jun 20 02:23 |
| schestowitz | go round the globe how many times, on tough terrain too, suboptimal conditions... | Jun 20 02:23 |
| MinceR | well, nowadays the car tells you about the oil change, if it's new enough :> | Jun 20 02:24 |
| DaemonFC | Mine does it in the middle of oil changes. | Jun 20 02:24 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 20 02:24 |
| DaemonFC | I run it on synthetic and it just goes herr derrr it's been 3,000 miles derp. | Jun 20 02:24 |
| MinceR | mine did it something like a month early or so | Jun 20 02:24 |
| schestowitz | it's like al budy | Jun 20 02:24 |
| schestowitz | wbundy | Jun 20 02:24 |
| schestowitz | *bundy | Jun 20 02:24 |
| schestowitz | with that meter | Jun 20 02:24 |
| schestowitz | before the car went off the garage by accident | Jun 20 02:24 |
| DaemonFC | It's not technically oil, either. | Jun 20 02:25 |
| DaemonFC | It's that gas to liquid stuff. | Jun 20 02:25 |
| schestowitz | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-KIAiO-Pqg | Jun 20 02:25 |
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| DaemonFC | I had to use Amazon last month. I rarely do. | Jun 20 02:25 |
| DaemonFC | Walmart was out of air filters that fit my car and the auto parts store wanted $17..... | Jun 20 02:26 |
| DaemonFC | Mom left the old fuel filter on there for so long that the car started stalling out soon after I got it. | Jun 20 02:27 |
| DaemonFC | THey had to replace part of the fuel line that ran between the filter and the pump because it had rusted onto the line. | Jun 20 02:27 |
| DaemonFC | I'll probably have them do the serpenting belt next oil change. | Jun 20 02:29 |
| DaemonFC | I'm pretty sure that's been on there for like 14 years now. | Jun 20 02:29 |
| DaemonFC | *serpentine | Jun 20 02:29 |
| DaemonFC | I started having power steering problems earlier this year, but they went away after I had some suspension work done on the front end. | Jun 20 02:30 |
| DaemonFC | https://news.slashdot.org/story/21/06/19/0026235/california-defies-expectations-of-doom-promises-massive-tax-rebate | Jun 20 02:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.slashdot.org | California Defies Expectations of Doom, Promises Massive Tax Rebate - Slashdot | Jun 20 02:31 | |
| DaemonFC | State with highest taxes by far says you can have a $600 rebate this year to coincide with the governor's recall. | Jun 20 02:31 |
| DaemonFC | What a coincidence. | Jun 20 02:31 |
| schestowitz | bagira: why the DM? | Jun 20 02:32 |
| schestowitz | a lot has happened lately, inc. the loss of the FN database | Jun 20 02:32 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, It's good to be king. | Jun 20 02:32 |
| DaemonFC | Hey, I know you guys are pissed about the French Laundry incident. | Jun 20 02:33 |
| schestowitz | data is very important | Jun 20 02:33 |
| DaemonFC | But here's some of your own money back. | Jun 20 02:33 |
| DaemonFC | Please remember who gave it to you in the voting booth! | Jun 20 02:33 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 20 02:33 |
| schestowitz | [02:32] <bagira> just curious, would you be interested in contributing to the new freenode community news site? | Jun 20 02:34 |
| schestowitz | a lot in FN keeps breaking | Jun 20 02:34 |
| schestowitz | inc. the kiwi-irc widget | Jun 20 02:35 |
| schestowitz | today I saw it was partly restored | Jun 20 02:35 |
| schestowitz | but still not fully functional | Jun 20 02:35 |
| schestowitz | FN needs to assure people their data is safe | Jun 20 02:35 |
| schestowitz | both privacy-wide and integration-wise | Jun 20 02:35 |
| schestowitz | I spent 6 hours last Tuesday having to rebuild everything | Jun 20 02:35 |
| schestowitz | and FN did not inform anyone about the upcoming/ongoing changes | Jun 20 02:36 |
| schestowitz | clarity is needed | Jun 20 02:36 |
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| DaemonFC | The Lincoln Park Zoo is open again. They don't stop you from bringing in food and drinks and it's free and open all year. | Jun 20 02:38 |
| DaemonFC | They get people from out of town by not mentioning that you'll pay $40-50 to park there. | Jun 20 02:38 |
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| DaemonFC | And on really expensive food if you don't bring your own.... | Jun 20 02:38 |
| schestowitz | if they allow you | Jun 20 02:39 |
| schestowitz | they're becoming like movie theatres | Jun 20 02:39 |
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| saint_dogbert/fn | https://imgur.com/a/fp21WCh | Jun 20 02:39 |
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| saint_dogbert/fn | sorry for the delay, phone didn't want to sync for some reason | Jun 20 02:40 |
| DaemonFC | Their website just says you can't bring in weed or drink alcohol you didn't purchase at the zoo. | Jun 20 02:40 |
| schestowitz | oh, digital display | Jun 20 02:40 |
| schestowitz | I was expecting 90s tech | Jun 20 02:40 |
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| saint_dogbert/fn | The other is a '93 ford escort, but the odometer rolls over to 0 at 100,000 so I can't prove how many times thats flipped | Jun 20 02:40 |
| DaemonFC | 2006 Buick....So there's a chance that it still has the 3800 V6? | Jun 20 02:40 |
| saint_dogbert/fn | it is | Jun 20 02:41 |
| saint_dogbert/fn | original | Jun 20 02:41 |
| DaemonFC | I have one in the Impala. | Jun 20 02:41 |
| saint_dogbert/fn | not rebuilt and the only engine item outside of normal tuneup to be replaced is the timing chain | Jun 20 02:41 |
| schestowitz | must be a lot of long-dustance travel then | Jun 20 02:41 |
| schestowitz | like 1000 miles in a week | Jun 20 02:41 |
| schestowitz | [02:35] <bagira> on second thought, perhaps inviting someone who shares private messages publicly without permission is an error | Jun 20 02:41 |
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| saint_dogbert/fn | Not really, but yearly trips between Washington and Ohio | Jun 20 02:42 |
| DaemonFC | Mine was at 275,900-somthing today. | Jun 20 02:42 |
| saint_dogbert/fn | right on :D | Jun 20 02:42 |
| saint_dogbert/fn | How much work have you had to do to it? | Jun 20 02:42 |
| DaemonFC | Too much to remember, but for the engine? | Jun 20 02:42 |
| saint_dogbert/fn | yeah, engine wise | Jun 20 02:43 |
| DaemonFC | Both intakes are new. The front valve cover was replaced as part of a safety recall, the EGR valve is new, and there's a new oil pan gasket. | Jun 20 02:43 |
| saint_dogbert/fn | More work than mine ;) | Jun 20 02:43 |
| DaemonFC | The lower intake manifold was leaking oil and coolant. | Jun 20 02:44 |
| DaemonFC | The upper intake cracked and caused a vacuum leak a year later. | Jun 20 02:45 |
| saint_dogbert/fn | how did you pull that off? | Jun 20 02:45 |
| DaemonFC | Age and heat, I suppose. | Jun 20 02:45 |
| DaemonFC | It's this plastic shit GM uses. | Jun 20 02:45 |
| XRevan86 | psydroid: How big is your Conversations database, by the way? | Jun 20 02:46 |
| saint_dogbert/fn | Interesting. I spent a number of years in south east idaho with this one and never had that happen. I'm thinking it may be time to replace the coil packs though | Jun 20 02:46 |
| DaemonFC | You have to buy a whole kit with it, so you replace the thermostat and the PCV valve at the same time as replacing the upper intake. | Jun 20 02:46 |
| DaemonFC | The fuel pressure regulator hose and the regulator itself were leaking too. | Jun 20 02:47 |
| DaemonFC | Those were pretty cheap though. | Jun 20 02:48 |
| saint_dogbert/fn | ouch :( | Jun 20 02:48 |
| saint_dogbert/fn | Sounds like the ford ranger I used to have | Jun 20 02:48 |
| saint_dogbert/fn | every month, some new issue | Jun 20 02:48 |
| saint_dogbert/fn | but that one was a strange setup for its model year | Jun 20 02:48 |
| saint_dogbert/fn | twin spark plug system | Jun 20 02:48 |
| saint_dogbert/fn | Fords answer to the Nissan or whatever OEM twin plug motor | Jun 20 02:49 |
| DaemonFC | The EGR was just nasty from carbon buildup. | Jun 20 02:49 |
| DaemonFC | Once it's off, you clean the pipe out too in order to try to prevent the new one from getting plugged up. | Jun 20 02:49 |
| saint_dogbert/fn | air compressor | Jun 20 02:49 |
| saint_dogbert/fn | ;) | Jun 20 02:49 |
| saint_dogbert/fn | kidding of course | Jun 20 02:50 |
| saint_dogbert/fn | don't try that | Jun 20 02:50 |
| techrights-bot/fn | "something about destroying an irc network is going to make irc devs squeamish on giving him help" http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-190621.html#tJun%2019%2008:12:17 #irc | Jun 20 02:50 |
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| DaemonFC | A wire brush and some carb cleaner. | Jun 20 02:50 |
| saint_dogbert/fn | yep | Jun 20 02:50 |
| saint_dogbert/fn | bottle brushes work better though for some of 'em | Jun 20 02:51 |
| DaemonFC | It'll never be top of the line again, but it's reliable enough I guess. | Jun 20 02:52 |
| DaemonFC | Compared to making payments, I go through about one car payment's worth of repairs every 4 months or so. | Jun 20 02:52 |
| techrights-bot/fn | #compression in #geminiSpace (big debate at the moment/this weekend): "Was wondering when that would get brought up. Hadn't spoken because I wasn't sure if it hadn't already been looked into. Gwmpub/gpub is readable by Lagrange, and hopefully other browsers will follow suit (especially Ariana or another mobile browser.)" https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/006725.html | Jun 20 02:52 |
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| DaemonFC | As for oil, I get it done about every 8-12 months usually. | Jun 20 02:56 |
| DaemonFC | I just keep an eye on it to make sure I'm not losing any. | Jun 20 02:56 |
| DaemonFC | I put about 6,000-9,000 miles per year on it. | Jun 20 02:56 |
| saint_dogbert/fn | I do mine every 2 years since '15... I put maybe 1000 miles on a year | Jun 20 02:57 |
| DaemonFC | It says 5w30 on the cap, but I use 0w30. | Jun 20 02:57 |
| saint_dogbert/fn | same. Mobileone? | Jun 20 02:57 |
| DaemonFC | I found that the car turns over faster when it's around -20 or so. | Jun 20 02:57 |
| DaemonFC | I used to, but Pennzoil Platinum Synthetic High Mileage comes in that too. | Jun 20 02:58 |
| saint_dogbert/fn | Pennzoil is something I wouldn't put in even if it was the last choice... same with Quakerstate and fram | Jun 20 02:58 |
| saint_dogbert/fn | once you've torn down an engine thats had either of those brands all its life, you'll understand why | Jun 20 02:59 |
| DaemonFC | There's a little bit of piston ring wear that showed up while they were smoke testing it for all those other vacuum leaks. | Jun 20 02:59 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, the wax problem. | Jun 20 02:59 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▃▄▅▄▅▆▃▇▁▆▆▅▁▆▇▆▅▆▅▇▅▅▆▆▄▃▇▅▆▅▄▇▁ avg(k/sec) 30.40 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▁▂▂▃▂▂▂█▁▂▁▁▂▂▂▃▂▁▂▂▁▂▂▂▂▁▁▂▂▁▂▁▁▂▁ avg(k/sec) 10.15▕ swarm size (avg): 300.36 ⟲ | Jun 20 02:59 |
| DaemonFC | But the natural gas to liquid stuff wouldn't have that, right? | Jun 20 02:59 |
| saint_dogbert/fn | yep. That gunk is a real pain to clean up. | Jun 20 02:59 |
| DaemonFC | That's a problem because of the crude oil. | Jun 20 02:59 |
| saint_dogbert/fn | Beats me about the natural gas stuff. Never used it nor do I know of anyone that uses it | Jun 20 03:00 |
| saint_dogbert/fn | Seems to be only them. I've torn down engines that have run other brands of oil and not seen it nearly as bad | Jun 20 03:00 |
| DaemonFC | Walmart TLE uses conventional Quaker State in their basic oil change package, of course they also destroy cars a lot faster than any sort of defective oil ever could. | Jun 20 03:00 |
| saint_dogbert/fn | the cleanest engines I've ever torn down had mobilone in them... oil pans were clean enough that you could eat off of them | Jun 20 03:00 |
| DaemonFC | Valvoline is fine too. | Jun 20 03:01 |
| saint_dogbert/fn | That one too | Jun 20 03:01 |
| saint_dogbert/fn | and castro | Jun 20 03:01 |
| DaemonFC | I've always driven high mileage cars. | Jun 20 03:01 |
| DaemonFC | So I was one of the first people using high mileage oil. | Jun 20 03:01 |
| DaemonFC | I think when only Valvoline had one. | Jun 20 03:02 |
| DaemonFC | Some people were talking about how they had a problem car that was burning and leaking like crazy and using the high mileage oil kind of covers up problems like that. | Jun 20 03:02 |
| saint_dogbert/fn | I personally think some of them come with guerilla glue mixed in to stop those leaks ;) | Jun 20 03:03 |
| DaemonFC | Obviously, if the car is a high mileage beater, you're not going to do a full engine tear down to get it fixed correctly. | Jun 20 03:03 |
| saint_dogbert/fn | depends on how bad the leak is | Jun 20 03:03 |
| DaemonFC | It's just extra additives that swell up the seals a little bit more and make it more resistent to burn off. | Jun 20 03:03 |
| saint_dogbert/fn | if its a real bad one as in losing a quart every trip, you end up spending more on oil than it would cost to fix the leak after a few months | Jun 20 03:04 |
| DaemonFC | Uh, I had a Lumina that was leaking a quart between changes. | Jun 20 03:04 |
| saint_dogbert/fn | Thats not a bad leak | Jun 20 03:04 |
| DaemonFC | The high mileage stuff stopped it and I drove the car for another 150,000 miles without doing anything else. | Jun 20 03:04 |
| saint_dogbert/fn | losing a quart every trip = losing a quart every trip to the grocery | Jun 20 03:04 |
| DaemonFC | That's where the Impala had gotten to. | Jun 20 03:04 |
| DaemonFC | Mom was just pouring a quart in every week or so at one point. | Jun 20 03:05 |
| saint_dogbert/fn | ::( | Jun 20 03:05 |
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| XRevan86 | https://twitter.com/freenodestaff/status/1405375781883158530 I looked at this again and a thought occurred: maybe rasengan, when talking about the FOSS projects stealing other people's work, meant inspircd? | Jun 20 03:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@freenodestaff: @sadiekatze Thanks for letting us use 'your' software. If you need a hug, you know where to find us. https://t.co/tBI0AYWPfU | Jun 20 03:08 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | QmQYQoMFrDMTXEe4NcPiv7amMCQS2ho3c6EaMHAU4SfMUe | Jun 20 03:08 |
| MinceR | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | Jun 20 03:09 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: DaemonFC: can you spot typos? http://techrights.org/2021/06/19/github-hate-letter-and-ibm/ | Jun 20 03:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM Handles More Removals of Signatures of Its Hate Letter Against Richard Stallman | Techrights | Jun 20 03:09 | |
| MinceR | schestowitz: the block seems to be missing from the end of the text (which is usually there) | Jun 20 03:11 |
| MinceR | also, red hat was already hostile to free software before they were bought by ibm | Jun 20 03:12 |
| MinceR | i couldn't spot anything else | Jun 20 03:12 |
| schestowitz | no block as it is only a summary | Jun 20 03:13 |
| MinceR | ah, ok | Jun 20 03:13 |
| schestowitz | not a full scale 'article' | Jun 20 03:13 |
| schestowitz | thanks for checking | Jun 20 03:13 |
| MinceR | np | Jun 20 03:13 |
| schestowitz | Red Hat got worse when IBM bought them | Jun 20 03:13 |
| schestowitz | people like Oliva left | Jun 20 03:13 |
| techrights-bot/fn | #IBM Handles More Removals of Signatures From Its Hate Letter Against Richard Stallman • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/06/19/github-hate-letter-and-ibm/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/19/github-hate-letter-and-ibm/ | Jun 20 03:16 |
| XRevan86 | Ariadne: Is it possible to run the thing with Dendrite? | Jun 20 03:19 |
| techrights-bot/fn | Week 2 on #Kalendar (GSoC 2021) https://claudiocambra.com/2021/06/20/week-2-on-kalendar-gsoc-2021/ #kde #freesw | Jun 20 03:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-claudiocambra.com | Week 2 on Kalendar (GSoC 2021) – Claudio Cambra | Jun 20 03:19 | |
| *schestowitz working on parts 13-15 of the EPO series | Jun 20 03:19 | |
| *schestowitz (lots of people work on it) | Jun 20 03:20 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | In terms of large IRC networks, they seem to be dividing along political lines rather than anything technical or something of on-topic/relevant substance. Using networks for FOSS to push your POLITICAL agenda is NOT acceptable. https://gist.github.com/joepie91/a50b72a8ca842944b40de3c2cdf776f6 | Jun 20 03:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gist.github.com | alt-right-bans.md · GitHub | Jun 20 03:22 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | It's starting to seem like in IRC space, FN has become the Front Nationale (French) and LC is Liberal Coalition. #freenode #liberaChat #PoliticsNOTTech | Jun 20 03:24 |
| saint_dogbert/fn | sure seems that way | Jun 20 03:24 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 20 03:24 |
| techrights-bot/fn | Using TECHNICAL networks for TECHNICAL projects to push your POLITICAL agenda is MISusing them. http://techrights.org/2021/05/08/communication-channels-cancel-mobbed/ #freenode #liberaChat #PoliticsNOTTech #NoFreeLunch #SelfHost | Jun 20 03:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Pro-Software Freedom Advocates and Free/Libre Software Supporters Face Barriers Due to Domination of Communication Channels (Beyond the Media) | Techrights | Jun 20 03:25 | |
| saint_dogbert/fn | Its not that I hate left wingers, its the form of government that they seem to want to bring in to the USA sounds an awful lot like the USSR | Jun 20 03:26 |
| schestowitz | wings aren't a thing to us | Jun 20 03:26 |
| saint_dogbert/fn | but with the human rights record that would surpass NK and CH | Jun 20 03:26 |
| schestowitz | because etch is not a wing | Jun 20 03:26 |
| saint_dogbert/fn | German? | Jun 20 03:26 |
| schestowitz | if your algorithm is fast, it doesn't matter which party is in charge | Jun 20 03:26 |
| schestowitz | and patent law is a bipartisan affair | Jun 20 03:26 |
| schestowitz | interjecting politics into things is destabilising them, maybe intentionally | Jun 20 03:27 |
| saint_dogbert/fn | Yes | Jun 20 03:27 |
| schestowitz | like the whole "master branch is racist" thing | Jun 20 03:27 |
| schestowitz | pure bait | Jun 20 03:27 |
| schestowitz | for political polarity | Jun 20 03:27 |
| saint_dogbert/fn | very much so... unfortunately, politics is injected into damn near everything in the USA | Jun 20 03:27 |
| *job (~job@faedm9en5b78c.irc) has joined #techrights | Jun 20 03:27 | |
| schestowitz | who cares about the quality of the commit | Jun 20 03:27 |
| schestowitz | people who don't know how to code just look at branch names | Jun 20 03:28 |
| schestowitz | anyway, I want to focus on tech issues | Jun 20 03:28 |
| schestowitz | the amazon ring cameras spy on you no matter how you vote | Jun 20 03:28 |
| saint_dogbert/fn | There is a saying in the south in the USA; They can tell which party you belong to by the soda you drink. Coke = right wing Pepsi = left wing RC Cola = libertarian ;) | Jun 20 03:28 |
| techrights-bot/fn | Virtual Injustice -- Part 13 will be release late on Sunday. The series has meanwhile been extended to 15 parts total as new information becomes available. #epo #corruption #patents #kangarooCourt #eu | Jun 20 03:29 |
| schestowitz | RC Cola is usually the cheapest | Jun 20 03:30 |
| schestowitz | but I rarely see it around here anymore | Jun 20 03:30 |
| schestowitz | Aldi sells soda bottles very very cheap... like 19p last I check for 1.5-2 litres | Jun 20 03:30 |
| schestowitz | water+chemicals inside oil container doesn't cost much to make... maybe transport costs exceed the manufacturing costs | Jun 20 03:31 |
| saint_dogbert/fn | same about RC Cola... I asked the manager of the grocery I usually go to about it; They said both Coke and Pepsi are now paying big bucks to buy up the shelving space and push the little people like RC Cola out | Jun 20 03:33 |
| techrights-bot/fn | #epo wasted a lot of money on PURCHASED coverage this past week. Disgraceful and scandalous. Links omitted except http://techrights.org/2021/05/04/epo-eia-hush-money/ | Jun 20 03:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO Already Wasting Money on Media Manipulation Campaigns for European Inventor Award | Techrights | Jun 20 03:33 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | Reminder that some #patents mean deaths to millions. https://health.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/industry/vaccine-diplomacy-adds-fresh-layer-to-indo-us-ties/80614788 #patent #monopoly | Jun 20 03:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-health.economictimes.indiatimes.com | Vaccine diplomacy adds fresh layer to Indo-US ties, Health News, ET HealthWorld | Jun 20 03:34 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | It is getting easier to catalogue (in the past few days) which publishers are the latest recipients of #EPO #bribes | Jun 20 03:38 |
| techrights-bot/fn | #Euronews is a corrupt publication that takes #bribes from criminals in exchange for puff pieces. #corruption #epo | Jun 20 03:39 |
| techrights-bot/fn | "The #patent in question is dated on the 12th day of August, 1820." Back when #patent weren't granted by the MILLIONS just to enrich 3LITIGATION firms https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/06/thompson-haight-1040.html | Jun 20 03:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | Thompson v. Haight, 23 F.Cas. 1040 (S.D.N.Y. 1826) | Patently-O | Jun 20 03:42 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | These #EPO 'awards' for #patent holders have turned into #reputationlaundering and #marketing stunts, sometimes at the expense of people's lives http://techrights.org/2018/05/04/theranos-epo-fraud/ | Jun 20 03:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Elizabeth Holmes Charged With “Massive Fraud” and Team Battistelli Rushes to Distance Itself From Her | Techrights | Jun 20 03:44 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | "AYE PEE" is totally meaningless in this context. The buzzwords salad is running dry... http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/06/guest-post-nft-implications-for-ip-case.html | Jun 20 03:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Guest post: NFT implications for IP: A case study on 'Morons' - The IPKat | Jun 20 03:46 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | Less than a day ago #IBM processed a request for removal (from its hate letter) • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/06/19/github-hate-letter-and-ibm/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/19/github-hate-letter-and-ibm/ | Jun 20 03:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM Handles More Removals of Signatures From Its Hate Letter Against Richard Stallman | Techrights | Jun 20 03:47 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | #EPO : criminals who reward other criminals. Old: #Theranos in the headlines again… as the EPO tries to distance itself from its previous association with #ElizabethHolmes http://techrights.org/2018/05/04/theranos-epo-fraud/ | Jun 20 03:47 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/CheapAzzGamer/status/1406042554542571530 | Jun 20 03:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@CheapAzzGamer: @Nayal31916248 @AlexxBlond @PS5only https://t.co/1kOznIY8vD you should read this from a former employee it’s not that old at all. | Jun 20 03:49 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▆▆▆▇▆▅▅▅▅▆▇▆▇▇▆▅▃█▆▅▆▃▄▆▇▇▄▅▆▅▆▅▄▁ avg(k/sec) 34.20 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▂▂▁▂▂▂▂▁▁▂▂▂▁▂▁▂▂▁▂▂▁▂▂▁▁▂▂▁▂▂▁▁▂█▁▁ avg(k/sec) 19.71▕ swarm size (avg): 301.83 ⟲ | Jun 20 03:59 |
| MinceR | lol @ dropping steve jobs into that | Jun 20 03:59 |
| schestowitz | where? | Jun 20 04:00 |
| MinceR | nvm | Jun 20 04:00 |
| schestowitz | nvm :-) | Jun 20 04:00 |
| schestowitz | does it run on a mac? | Jun 20 04:00 |
| MinceR | i didn't even see the tweet linked to, because it didn't scroll there | Jun 20 04:00 |
| MinceR | but now i do | Jun 20 04:00 |
| schestowitz | Node Version Manager and others | Jun 20 04:00 |
| MinceR | Non-Volatile Memory? | Jun 20 04:01 |
| schestowitz | that too | Jun 20 04:02 |
| schestowitz | and old software I cannot find anymore | Jun 20 04:02 |
| schestowitz | circa 2000-2005 | Jun 20 04:02 |
| schestowitz | or never mind p) | Jun 20 04:02 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 20 04:02 |
| schestowitz | I'm amazed people still talk about Steve Blows | Jun 20 04:03 |
| schestowitz | Imagine how long people would speak about Bill Epstein | Jun 20 04:03 |
| schestowitz | after he hangs himself or something | Jun 20 04:03 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 20 04:03 |
| schestowitz | seems Microsoft threw this vapourware to disract | Jun 20 04:03 |
| schestowitz | maybe the Board changes | Jun 20 04:03 |
| schestowitz | with Nadella and Thompson | Jun 20 04:03 |
| schestowitz | maybe there's even an indictment on the way, who knows... | Jun 20 04:04 |
| schestowitz | it's NOT impossible | Jun 20 04:04 |
| schestowitz | after the media already took teh wind out of his micro-soft 'sails' | Jun 20 04:04 |
| schestowitz | I might even get TV to watch that | Jun 20 04:04 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wiki/Bill_Gates_Deposition | Jun 20 04:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bill Gates Deposition - Techrights | Jun 20 04:04 | |
| schestowitz | nice addition to the online collection | Jun 20 04:04 |
| schestowitz | "what do you mean by 'board the plane'?" | Jun 20 04:05 |
| schestowitz | "read me the other definition of bribe" (on MIT money) | Jun 20 04:06 |
| schestowitz | "no, rick was my Internet Exploder" | Jun 20 04:06 |
| schestowitz | he exploded | Jun 20 04:06 |
| schestowitz | 80% of the time | Jun 20 04:07 |
| schestowitz | according to him | Jun 20 04:07 |
| techrights-bot/fn | #Techrights Bulletin for Saturday, June 19, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext | Jun 20 04:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives | Jun 20 04:07 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing | Jun 20 04:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index | Jun 20 04:08 | |
| activelow | before i forget this again: introduction of IPv6 is bundled with carrier grade NAT often, and lock-in to specific routers provided by ISPs | Jun 20 04:10 |
| techrights-bot/fn | I think #curl should add #geminiProtocol support. #wget has w for #www but curl has not. | Jun 20 04:10 |
| schestowitz | activelow: you can reprogramme the LAN | Jun 20 04:11 |
| schestowitz | or NAT | Jun 20 04:11 |
| activelow | ISPs seeked to their customers signing contracts which permits the ISP to implement carrier grade NAT (CGN), which leaves a customer without a public IPv4 | Jun 20 04:11 |
| schestowitz | for now we still have one IPv4 address | Jun 20 04:12 |
| schestowitz | without it, we'd change ISP | Jun 20 04:12 |
| activelow | vodaphone tried with me here, offering faster internet at a discount, then checked the contract for details (which required a microscope to read the tiny text) | Jun 20 04:12 |
| schestowitz | right now we use 5 ip addresses | Jun 20 04:12 |
| schestowitz | tuxmachines, irc, techrights, gemini/ipfs, and hv | Jun 20 04:13 |
| schestowitz | all ipv4 | Jun 20 04:13 |
| activelow | ok. i was thinking about this in general what happened when ISPs began to lock out various people from IPv4 | Jun 20 04:13 |
| schestowitz | but we change that soon as IANA wants some addresses back if I understand correctyly | Jun 20 04:13 |
| schestowitz | ipv4 is justified away using internet of "shit" | Jun 20 04:14 |
| schestowitz | things like cameras with public-facing ip | Jun 20 04:14 |
| activelow | public-facing ip? never heard of that. | Jun 20 04:16 |
| DaemonFC | https://wgntv.com/weather/weather-blog/the-three-waves-of-june-1954-cool-heat-and-killer/ | Jun 20 04:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wgntv.com | The three waves of June 1954—Cool, heat and killer | WGN-TV | Jun 20 04:16 | |
| DaemonFC | Out of the five warmest Junes in Chicago, only one of them has been in the 21st century. Same for ones with 90 degree plus days. | Jun 20 04:16 |
| DaemonFC | The worst one was in 1954. | Jun 20 04:17 |
| DaemonFC | So much for global warming. | Jun 20 04:17 |
| DaemonFC | It should generally get worse everywhere, right? | Jun 20 04:18 |
| activelow | strange, in germany temperature anomalies surpassed 10°C already, early summer season with Sahara temperatures and tropical nights | Jun 20 04:18 |
| activelow | when i was a child early summer season was ~10°C cooler | Jun 20 04:19 |
| activelow | anyway, alongside the stragy to cripple customers access lines Microsoft aggressively markets Teams, another power grab what was formerly under control by Telco | Jun 20 04:25 |
| activelow | ironically "privatization of Telecom" implemented by EU intended to prevent monopolies such as Microsoft, Facebook, etc | Jun 20 04:26 |
| activelow | *strategy | Jun 20 04:27 |
| activelow | customers' access lines are crippled by low uplink data rates, lack of static IPv4, requirement for DynDNS, carrier grade NAT | Jun 20 04:30 |
| activelow | instead of hosting their own little web sites private customers upload their nonsense to Facebook, Github etc. | Jun 20 04:32 |
| DaemonFC | 2012 had a really bad drought and it got extremely hot in August. | Jun 20 04:32 |
| DaemonFC | I went to Aldi for groceries and looked like I got out of a swimming pool by the time I loaded the car up and got in. | Jun 20 04:32 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/irc-networks-fight.png | Jun 20 04:35 |
| activelow | IPv6 is dangerous, it won't repair the cluster*** BGP routing tables (link i posted few hours ago), and the "dual stack | Jun 20 04:35 |
| activelow | ", in fact with the extended address space BGP routing tables could blow up beyond repair even further | Jun 20 04:37 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: DaemonFC: http://techrights.org/2021/06/19/meme-irc-wars-in-a-nutshell/ | Jun 20 04:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] IRC Wars in a Nutshell | Techrights | Jun 20 04:37 | |
| schestowitz | only one paragraph again | Jun 20 04:37 |
| activelow | carrier grade NAT is an attack on "network neutrality", potentially preventing self-hosting (including IPv4) in the future | Jun 20 04:40 |
| activelow | politically it was prepared for already to sanction anything which remained outside control of governmental institutions and their sponsors | Jun 20 04:41 |
| DaemonFC | " has just ousted himself as a huge Donald Trump supporter" | Jun 20 04:42 |
| DaemonFC | ousted himself? | Jun 20 04:42 |
| schestowitz | outed | Jun 20 04:43 |
| techrights-bot/fn | [Meme] #IRC Wars in a Nutshell • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/06/19/meme-irc-wars-in-a-nutshell/ ䷉ #Techrights #freenode #libreaChat #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/19/meme-irc-wars-in-a-nutshell/ | Jun 20 04:46 |
| DaemonFC | Libera Chat is Stone Cold Steve Austin? | Jun 20 04:58 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▆▅▆▄▅▄▅▄▆▇▆▅▅▆▄▄▇▁▆▃▄▁▂▄▄▄▅▄▅▅▄▆▄▃▅▁ avg(k/sec) 24.61 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▂▁▂▂▁▃█▂▁▁▂▂▁▂▂▇▂▂▁▂██▃▁▁▂▁▂▃▂▂▂▂▁ avg(k/sec) 39.56▕ swarm size (avg): 301.76 ⟲ | Jun 20 04:59 |
| schestowitz | does not matter which is which | Jun 20 05:04 |
| schestowitz | the point was, they're both thugs | Jun 20 05:04 |
| schestowitz | they both look to have power over you | Jun 20 05:04 |
| schestowitz | but they don't say that upfront | Jun 20 05:04 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: can you read another one? | Jun 20 05:05 |
| DaemonFC | Sure. | Jun 20 05:06 |
| DaemonFC | I think a lot of things when I think mjg59. Stone Cold Steve Austin is not one of them. | Jun 20 05:07 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2021/06/19/saner-patent-system-in-europe/ | Jun 20 05:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | We Need and Deserve a Saner Patent System in Europe | Techrights | Jun 20 05:07 | |
| schestowitz | thanks | Jun 20 05:07 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: a 120-pound man | Jun 20 05:07 |
| schestowitz | versus a man twice his size | Jun 20 05:07 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: check the above, this is what we really need to focus on | Jun 20 05:08 |
| schestowitz | not how to cancel political 'enemies' | Jun 20 05:08 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RGmBwaTuz0 | Jun 20 05:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bernie Sanders: We're Tired Of Hearing About Clinton's 'Damn Emails' - YouTube | Jun 20 05:08 | |
| schestowitz | but to cancel swpats and corporations that lobby for them | Jun 20 05:08 |
| DaemonFC | "he patent law firms and patent media" | Jun 20 05:10 |
| DaemonFC | firms, and | Jun 20 05:10 |
| schestowitz | fixed | Jun 20 05:10 |
| schestowitz | I knew you'd say that | Jun 20 05:10 |
| schestowitz | you love "Oxford Comma" | Jun 20 05:10 |
| DaemonFC | I do. Much of that was because of the Supreme Court case that changed the meaning of a Maine labor law because the state legislature forgot to include one, resulting in more overtime pay for some workers. | Jun 20 05:11 |
| DaemonFC | "understandably grows impatient (at least people who are sufficiently informed; the criminals have already intimidated and bribed a lot of the media and they’re still bribing more of it, as we shall demonstrate later today)" | Jun 20 05:13 |
| DaemonFC | impatient. (At least the people[...] | Jun 20 05:13 |
| schestowitz | I try not to use full stops in summaries :-) | Jun 20 05:14 |
| schestowitz | refresh page | Jun 20 05:14 |
| schestowitz | I corrected a bit | Jun 20 05:14 |
| DaemonFC | "We’ve meanwhile seen" | Jun 20 05:15 |
| DaemonFC | Meanwhile, we've seen | Jun 20 05:15 |
| DaemonFC | Sounds better in my head. | Jun 20 05:15 |
| DaemonFC | "sent out mails"? | Jun 20 05:16 |
| DaemonFC | The plural of mail is usually mail. | Jun 20 05:16 |
| schestowitz | amended | Jun 20 05:17 |
| DaemonFC | The rest looks okay. | Jun 20 05:17 |
| schestowitz | thanks, done! | Jun 20 05:19 |
| DaemonFC | I liked the Oxford Comma case because it was a warning from the court that they aren't going to be kind to lawmakers who get sloppy when they're writing the law and then fix the meaning for them later. | Jun 20 05:19 |
| schestowitz | I will do a video related to tis later | Jun 20 05:19 |
| DaemonFC | In the Obamacare case, they drifted from that though, in order to uphold the subsidies in states that declined to run a marketplace. | Jun 20 05:19 |
| techrights-bot/fn | We Need and Deserve a Saner #Patent System in #Europe http://techrights.org/2021/06/19/saner-patent-system-in-europe/ #swpats #ffii #epo | Jun 20 05:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | We Need and Deserve a Saner Patent System in Europe | Techrights | Jun 20 05:20 | |
| activelow | good night | Jun 20 05:20 |
| DaemonFC | Had they gone with the intent of Congress and the meaning of the word "state" to be "a state government in the United States", then the federal government could have oeprated marketplaces in those states that chose not to operate one, but they couldn't have paid out subsidies. | Jun 20 05:21 |
| DaemonFC | It seems to me to be fairly bizarre that, essentially, what Texas was saying was, "Please tax our residents and then don't give them any help buying health insurance.", but it seems that what they wanted was a follow up of "And now we're being harmed because we're paying taxes and not benefiting from this law.". | Jun 20 05:22 |
| DaemonFC | They desperately want standing to sue, they can't get it because they're not being treated any differently by the law's formula than any other state, so they had to bootstrap some demonstrable harm. | Jun 20 05:22 |
| DaemonFC | And the Supreme Court wouldn't give it to them. | Jun 20 05:23 |
| DaemonFC | If they can knock it down in court, they don't have to compromise with anyone about what comes next. You'll get whatever a bunch of right-wing hardliners in the Senate offer you or nothing. Probably nothing. | Jun 20 05:24 |
| schestowitz | [17:53] <schestowitz> Re: british judges at G1/21 | Jun 20 05:24 |
| schestowitz | [17:53] <schestowitz> > Hi, | Jun 20 05:24 |
| schestowitz | [17:53] <schestowitz> > | Jun 20 05:24 |
| schestowitz | [17:53] <schestowitz> > Do you know what this british patent judge was doing at the videoconf on G1/21? | Jun 20 05:24 |
| DaemonFC | What surprises me is they've failed to attack it at the Supreme Court half a dozen times now and they're still going. | Jun 20 05:24 |
| schestowitz | [17:53] <schestowitz> > | Jun 20 05:24 |
| schestowitz | [17:53] <schestowitz> > Is he member of the EBOA now? | Jun 20 05:24 |
| schestowitz | [17:53] <schestowitz> > | Jun 20 05:24 |
| schestowitz | [17:53] <schestowitz> > Lord Justice Arnold: | Jun 20 05:24 |
| schestowitz | [17:53] <schestowitz> > | Jun 20 05:24 |
| schestowitz | [17:53] <schestowitz> > https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1398176592099217412/photo/1 | Jun 20 05:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: EPO Kangaroo Pseudo Courts discussing how to revoke biased judges. Now stopping the streaming to discuss things off… https://t.co/9oFilbxikt | Jun 20 05:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: EPO Kangaroo Pseudo Courts discussing how to revoke biased judges. Now stopping the streaming to discuss things off… https://t.co/9oFilbxikt | Jun 20 05:24 | |
| schestowitz | [17:53] <schestowitz> We will write about him this weekend. | Jun 20 05:24 |
| DaemonFC | In fact, gauging the direction the court is moving in, they're getting further from their goal. It was 5-4 before Trump appointed anyone and the latest was 7-2 against overturning the law. | Jun 20 05:25 |
| DaemonFC | The EU is moving more towards software patents while the US is inching further away from them. | Jun 20 05:26 |
| DaemonFC | Some of the damage here is mainly that they're crap. They are overly broad and fail to state a claim. They could mean anything when you go to court. | Jun 20 05:27 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, The patent system is bad in other ways. | Jun 20 05:28 |
| DaemonFC | How do you have 7 patents on a water pitcher filter? People have been using them since the 1980s. | Jun 20 05:28 |
| DaemonFC | For that matter, how do you patent the pitcher itself 4 times? | Jun 20 05:28 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I sent an email to Brita asking if their filters would fit in compatible third party filters and they sent me back a response that basically said the NSF testing was only valid if you used a Brita filter in a Brita pitcher. | Jun 20 05:30 |
| DaemonFC | I plugged one into a Great Value pitcher that was designed to use Walmart's Brita-compatible filters, and it fit with no leaks or anything. | Jun 20 05:30 |
| DaemonFC | They put out all this damned plastic. The market is so saturated with old Brita pitchers they're in every thrift store for like $2-3. | Jun 20 05:31 |
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| DaemonFC | GrubHub observes Juneteenth. LOL | Jun 20 06:07 |
| DaemonFC | A shitty gig economy app that costs their drivers as much in gas and wear on their car as they make. | Jun 20 06:07 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, It seems that with the domestic abuse warrant out on him, the only place Austin found to work that doesn't care is grubhub. | Jun 20 06:08 |
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| DaemonFC | Well, they are designed to slowly pressure you into turning yourself in. | Jun 20 06:08 |
| DaemonFC | I could have told him that. | Jun 20 06:08 |
| DaemonFC | Trying to beat a warrant is like when you're a kid and your parents are coming to give you the belt, so you hide in a bush, and you might buy yourself a few minutes, but they'll get you. | Jun 20 06:09 |
| DaemonFC | Very few people pull it off unless they're just so rich that there's no way to pressure them with leases and jobs and stuff. | Jun 20 06:12 |
| DaemonFC | I was reading about Phil Katz, the guy who wrote PKZip. | Jun 20 06:13 |
| DaemonFC | They had a bunch of warrants and failure to appear citations on him. So he pretty much went underground and started running the company by email, in the 90s. | Jun 20 06:13 |
| DaemonFC | He checked into a motel and started paying cash and paid a stripper to drive him around to run his errands. | Jun 20 06:14 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, It's bad here. It's like actual communists went around naming things too. | Jun 20 06:22 |
| DaemonFC | Like, the unemployment office in a state with the worst unemployment in America is the Department of Employment Security. | Jun 20 06:23 |
| DaemonFC | https://chicago.suntimes.com/movies-and-tv/2021/6/18/22538880/10-great-lgbtq-movies-best-films-brokeback-mountain-tangerine-portrait-lady-fire-moonlight-milk | Jun 20 06:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-chicago.suntimes.com | 10 great LGBTQ+ movies, from ‘The Boys in the Band’ to a ‘Lady on Fire’ - Chicago Sun-Times | Jun 20 06:31 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I'd include Stargate on that one just because it had Jaye Davidson as Ra. | Jun 20 06:31 |
| DaemonFC | Ra wasn't a very exceptional Goa'uld though. He'd been living the same way for thousands of years and seemed to be barely self-aware. | Jun 20 06:32 |
| DaemonFC | It didn't establish in the movie exactly what they were though. It was SG-1 that turned them into a brain parasite. | Jun 20 06:33 |
| DaemonFC | The movie led the audience to think of them as some sort of energy being that possessed a host. | Jun 20 06:33 |
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| techrights-bot/fn | ● NEWS ● #Figbert #Debian ☞ The Wrong Way to Switch Operating Systems on Your Server https://figbert.com/posts/wrong-way-to-switch-server-os/ | Jun 20 07:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Wrong Way to Switch Operating Systems on Your Server :: FIGBERT | Jun 20 07:15 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | ● NEWS ● #PeterMalmgren #Shell ☞ Cool things I learned about Bash this week https://petermalmgren.com/bash-things-i-learned/ | Jun 20 07:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-petermalmgren.com | Cool things I learned about Bash this week - Peter Malmgren | Jun 20 07:16 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | In terms of large #IRC networks, we’re in trouble (unless we self-host) because they seem to be dividing themselves along political lines rather than anything technical or something of an on-topic/relevant substance. • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/06/19/meme-irc-wars-in-a-nutshell/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: <clipped message> | Jun 20 07:17 |
| techrights-bot/fn | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06 | Jun 20 07:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] IRC Wars in a Nutshell | Techrights | Jun 20 07:17 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | The laughing stock that the #patent system, the patent #law firms, and patent media became (over the past few years) must be replaced • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/06/19/saner-patent-system-in-europe/ ䷉ #Techrights #EPO #patents | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/19/saner-patent-system-in-europe/ | Jun 20 07:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | We Need and Deserve a Saner Patent System in Europe | Techrights | Jun 20 07:18 | |
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| psydroid | XRevan86, it seems to be about 0.97 GB now, if you are referring to logs. But I can easily get back those up and get rid of them, if needed. | Jun 20 08:16 |
| psydroid | On my older phones I had to delete everything from time to time, because Conversations tended to become slow | Jun 20 08:16 |
| techrights-bot/fn | ● NEWS ● #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights ☞ #vista11 : #Microsoft Slowly Starts Taking Down Leaked ISO https://torrentfreak.com/windows-11-microsoft-slowly-starts-taking-down-leaked-iso-210619/ fake 'leaks' for hype, PR, distraction | Jun 20 08:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Windows 11: Microsoft Slowly Starts Taking Down Leaked ISO * TorrentFreak | Jun 20 08:26 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | ● NEWS ● #IndiaTimes #Surveillance #Privacy ☞ New Indian IT Rules do not conform with international norms: #UN Special Rapporteurs https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/government-policy/new-indian-it-rules-do-not-conform-with-international-norms-un-special-rapporteurs/83662708 | Jun 20 08:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com | new IT rules: New Indian IT Rules do not conform with international norms: UN Special Rapporteurs, IT News, ET CIO | Jun 20 08:34 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | ● NEWS ● #TheVerge #Surveillance #Privacy ☞ #Facialrecognition software used to verify unemployment recipients reportedly doesn’t work well https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/19/22541427/facial-recognition-software-verify-unemployment-benefits-id-me | Jun 20 08:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Facial recognition software used to verify unemployment recipients reportedly doesn’t work well - The Verge | Jun 20 08:34 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | ● NEWS ● #Vice #Surveillance #Privacy ☞ #FacialRecognition Failures Are Locking People Out of Unemployment Systems https://www.vice.com/en/article/5dbywn/facial-recognition-failures-are-locking-people-out-of-unemployment-systems | Jun 20 08:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.vice.com | Facial Recognition Failures Are Locking People Out of Unemployment Systems | Jun 20 08:34 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | ● NEWS ● #TheEconomist #ProprietarySoftware ☞ #Ransomware highlights the challenges and subtleties of cybersecurity https://www.economist.com/briefing/2021/06/19/ransomware-highlights-the-challenges-and-subtleties-of-cybersecurity | Jun 20 08:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ransomware highlights the challenges and subtleties of cybersecurity | The Economist | Jun 20 08:36 | |
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| techrights-bot/fn | Best Free Android Apps: Pure Writer – plain text editor • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152479 | Jun 20 08:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Best Free Android Apps: Pure Writer – plain text editor | Tux Machines | Jun 20 08:40 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | #Google #Android Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152480 #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 20 08:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 20 08:42 | |
| psydroid | Is that whole PR operation going to change anything about the decline of that operating system? | Jun 20 08:45 |
| psydroid | I saw ads for Chromebooks on billboards last week | Jun 20 08:46 |
| techrights-bot/fn | #Microsoft #Windows TCO: ● #Vox #Politics ☞ What you need to know about #ransomware and the future of cyberattacks https://www.vox.com/recode/22527272/ransomware-cyberattacks-bitcoin-explained | Jun 20 08:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ransomware: How bitcoin, the pandemic, and Russia made the attacks worse - Vox | Jun 20 08:55 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | centre | Jun 20 08:56 |
| techrights-bot/fn | ● NEWS ● #TheWire #Censorship #India ☞ #Modi Government Wants Super-Censor Powers to Order Cuts in Films https://thewire.in/government/centre-seeks-public-comments-on-draft-cinematograph-amendment-bill-by-july-2 | Jun 20 08:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thewire.in | Modi Government Wants Super-Censor Powers to Order Cuts in Films | Jun 20 08:57 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | ● NEWS ● #Bloomberg #Censorship ☞ Why #FreeSpeech on the Internet Isn’t Free for All https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-06-19/why-free-speech-on-the-internet-isn-t-free-for-all-quicktake | Jun 20 08:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bloomberg - Are you a robot? | Jun 20 08:57 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | ● NEWS ● #TheVerge #Censorship ☞ #Facebook to update its community standards to clarify what it considers #satire https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/19/22541349/facebook-update-community-standards-satire-oversight-board | Jun 20 08:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Facebook to update its community standards to clarify what it considers satire - The Verge | Jun 20 08:57 | |
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| techrights-bot/fn | ● NEWS ● #TheTelegraphUK #uk ☞ Judges may be freed from European human rights rulings https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2021/06/19/exclusive-judges-may-freed-european-human-rights-rulings/ | Jun 20 08:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.telegraph.co.uk | Judges may be freed from European human rights rulings | Jun 20 08:58 | |
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| techrights-bot/fn | ● NEWS ● #Techdirt #china #cn ☞ Chinese Government Continues To Arrest More Journalists Over Nonsense 'National Security' Law https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210617/09541947007/chinese-government-continues-to-arrest-more-journalists-over-nonsense-national-security-law.shtml | Jun 20 09:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Chinese Government Continues To Arrest More Journalists Over Nonsense 'National Security' Law | Techdirt | Jun 20 09:01 | |
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| techrights-bot/fn | iophk: "why is only #TheFail covering this topic regularly, or at all? And even they don't call out the judge's failings" https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9704075/Julian-Assanges-fianc-e-Stella-Moris-calls-incarceration-prison-intolerable-grotesque.html | Jun 20 09:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dailymail.co.uk | Julian Assange's fiancée Stella Moris calls his incarceration in prison 'intolerable and grotesque' | Daily Mail Online | Jun 20 09:26 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | #Microsoft omitted, wrongly https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-06-18/antitrust-bills-have-some-democrats-asking-pelosi-to-slow-down | Jun 20 09:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bloomberg - Are you a robot? | Jun 20 09:27 | |
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| techrights-bot/fn | #billgates #epstein #mediaSilence https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/06/16/jeffrey-epstein-ghislaine-maxwell-uk-investigation/ iophk: #corporatepress is inappropriately quiet about Bill's connections to Epstein | Jun 20 09:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.washingtonpost.com | Ghislaine Maxwell, Jeffrey Epstein implicated in fresh abuse claims in Channel 4 report - The Washington Post | Jun 20 09:29 | |
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| techrights-bot/fn | ● NEWS ● #TruthOut #Hardware ☞ K Street Sets Sights on New Semiconductor Policy Amid Global Shortage https://truthout.org/articles/k-street-sets-sights-on-new-semiconductor-policy-amid-global-shortage/ | Jun 20 09:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | K Street Sets Sights on New Semiconductor Policy Amid Global Shortage | Jun 20 09:31 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | Changes in #IRC and New Features Over #GeminiProtocol or the #WorldWideWeb http://techrights.org/2021/06/20/irc-scrolling-backwards/ #techrights | Jun 20 09:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Changes in IRC and New Features Over Gemini Protocol or the World Wide Web | Techrights | Jun 20 09:37 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | "There's no reason we all have to visit the same ten websites as each other every day, support the little guys" https://chaos.social/@ak/106374751595066691 | Jun 20 09:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Abigail K 🌼: "I'm no techie, but if "major websites" are down t…" - chaos.social | Jun 20 09:58 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | "This is utterly ridiculous. If IT is too complex to be handled by reasonably competent staff, than the answer can't be "we give it only to experts that rob us", but to provide better tools that people can handle and are still secure.' https://microblog.shivering-isles.com/@sheogorath/106428095490638126 | Jun 20 09:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-microblog.shivering-isles.com | Sheogorath :si_blobfox:: "This is utterly ridiculous. If IT is too complex …" - Sheogorath's Microblog | Jun 20 09:58 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | "The new PoE+ HAT has some issues, like using almost twice as much power for its own operation as the original PoE HAT." https://youtu.be/XZ08QKAbBoU?t=53s | Jun 20 09:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Raspberry Pi's new PoE+ HAT uses too much power! - YouTube | Jun 20 09:59 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | "I'm not shocked by a glimpse of areola or swinging dick or sex really of any kind, but what shocks me incessantly now is ruinous, compassionless, and truly inhumane behavior of so many to so many." http://www.advicegoddess.com/archives/2021/06/the-trendy-and.html | Jun 20 10:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ http://www.advicegoddess.com/archives/2021/06/the-trendy-and.html ) | Jun 20 10:00 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | #russia #espionage https://www.salon.com/2021/06/18/retired-general-russians-will-soon-leak-intel-they-used-to-control-trump_partner/ | Jun 20 10:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Retired general: Russians will soon leak intel they used to "control" Trump | Salon.com | Jun 20 10:00 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | #pinephone https://translate.google.com/translate?depth=1&hl=en&prev=search&rurl=translate.google.co.uk&sl=es&u=https://masgnulinux.es/de-vuelta-con-el-pinephone/ | Jun 20 10:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-translate.google.com | Google Translate | Jun 20 10:01 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | "They did it. And with "they", I do mean #freenode. They actually did it. Their decline was too slow so they helped it." https://fosstodon.org/@yarmo/106413476183752091 | Jun 20 10:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fosstodon.org | Yarmo: "https://isfreenodedeadyet.com/ They did it. And …" - Fosstodon | Jun 20 10:02 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | #police #weapons #thugs https://mamot.fr/@jz/106439648856645757 | Jun 20 10:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mamot.fr | Jérémie Zimmermann🎶💗🧀🧉: "In which country police sends grenades and tear g…" - La Quadrature du Net - Mastodon - Media Fédéré | Jun 20 10:02 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | #perl #perl5 #RakuLang https://bsd.network/@AFresh1/106400536650131758 | Jun 20 10:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bsd.network | Andrew Hewus Fresh: "oooh, #TPRCiC talks are on YouTube now. #perl …" - BSD Network | Jun 20 10:03 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | We examine more closely some of the latest changes in the site and the capsule (Web and Gemini, respectively); we show that it’s possible to keep abreast of #IRC using nothing but a text editor, a Gemini client… or even the command line alone • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/06/20/irc-scrolling-backwards/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #Free <clipped message> | Jun 20 10:13 |
| techrights-bot/fn | SW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemin | Jun 20 10:13 |
| techrights-bot/fn | 𝕋𝕖𝕔𝕙𝕣𝕚𝕘𝕙𝕥𝕤 #IRC Proceedings: Saturday, June 19, 2021 • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/06/20/irc-log-190621/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/20/irc-log-190621/ | Jun 20 10:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Saturday, June 19, 2021 | Techrights | Jun 20 10:29 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | #EPO : Fake #Patents , Fake (Paid-for) #Patent Coverage, and Fake Awards for Public Relations Purposes http://techrights.org/2021/06/20/epo-awards-smokescreening/ #europe #upc | Jun 20 10:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO: Fake Patents, Fake (Paid-for) Patent Coverage, and Fake Awards for Public Relations Purposes | Techrights | Jun 20 10:37 | |
| XRevan86 | psydroid: https://github.com/iNPUTmice/Conversations/pull/4102 https://paste.debian.net/hidden/69e86327 it really did tend to become slow, I fixed that :), ye didn't have to remove that data. | Jun 20 10:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Make the fulltext index for search more efficient by XRevan86 · Pull Request #4102 · iNPUTmice/Conversations · GitHub | Jun 20 10:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paste.debian.net | Debian Pastezone | Jun 20 10:40 | |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: :-) | Jun 20 10:42 |
| XRevan86 | The latter is SQL queries to get the database to that nice state. | Jun 20 10:42 |
| XRevan86 | Maybe setting the paste to expire in a few months wasn't that wise. | Jun 20 10:44 |
| schestowitz | [10:44] <schestowitz> I've just nudged out the IRC blog post of today ("Missed Schedule"). I wanted to ask, do you want to have a go at making a substitute to Google News, limited to tech issues. TuxMachines already has a good starting point: http://tuxmachines.org/aggregator/sources basically, seeing how bad the media became and how neglected Google News is (lots of noise, plagiarism, and spam), competition will be easier | Jun 20 10:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | News Feeds | Tux Machines | Jun 20 10:45 | |
| schestowitz | does anyone wish to help? | Jun 20 10:45 |
| schestowitz | if we're to make an alternative to Google News? | Jun 20 10:45 |
| schestowitz | Like search of real-time/very recent tech news | Jun 20 10:45 |
| schestowitz | sans the spying and monopoly? | Jun 20 10:45 |
| schestowitz | it's something that is sorely needed | Jun 20 10:45 |
| techrights-bot/fn | Virtual Injustice -- Part 13 due tonight. #epo #corruption must be exposed and by all means, please ensure everyone in #europe is made aware of it. EPO BRIBES a lot of publishers to cover up these crimes. #patents | Jun 20 10:50 |
| psydroid | XRevan86, it was on my old phone(s) anyway, I haven't encountered such a problem on this one thanks to your fix :) | Jun 20 10:55 |
| psydroid | Oh, it hasn't been merged yet? | Jun 20 10:56 |
| XRevan86 | psydroid: It hasn't, still waiting. It's already useful though. | Jun 20 10:59 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▄▅▅▅▄▃▄▄▂▇▄▅▅▅▅▄▆▄▆▅▇▃▂▃▅▆▇▂▇▅▃▁ avg(k/sec) 25.81 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▁▂▂▁█▃▁▁▂▁▂▂▁▃▁▂▁▂▃█▂▂▁▂█▃▁▂▂▁▂▁▁▁ avg(k/sec) 47.83▕ swarm size (avg): 301.71 ⟲ | Jun 20 10:59 |
| XRevan86 | psydroid: It means that your device is powerful enough to get away with full table scans all the time :) | Jun 20 10:59 |
| psydroid | Oh, great :) | Jun 20 11:00 |
| XRevan86 | psydroid: Regarding it not being merged, I don't know what's the hold up, but I'm not worried, I don't think iNPUTmice will make a new release without it. | Jun 20 11:06 |
| XRevan86 | He's aware of what it does. | Jun 20 11:07 |
| techrights-bot/fn | The media has been thoroughly corrupted, patent legitimacy has been severely damaged (far too many European Patents aren’t in compliance with the EPC anymore), and Team #UPC is trying to undermine the #EPC and turn Europe into another #Texas • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/06/20/epo-awards-smokescreening/ ䷉ #Techrights | ♾ Gemini addre <clipped message> | Jun 20 11:10 |
| techrights-bot/fn | ss: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021 | Jun 20 11:10 |
| techrights-bot/fn | "IPWatchdog and CAS and will be offering a webinar" (link omitted). #patent zealots meet for #lobbying / commercials and "no registration fee for this webinar." Because indoctrination and lies are cheap. #patents #watchtroll | Jun 20 11:16 |
| techrights-bot/fn | Clear and overt misuse of words like "rights" in relation to #monopolies on plants, seeds, and animals (life) as if they are inventions https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=676d5370-6544-40f0-9179-dfc7c1fa931e | Jun 20 11:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Protection of plant varieties under plant breeders' rights - Lexology | Jun 20 11:18 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | Inappropriate term, "IP". What #USPTO deals with is limited to #patents and #trademarks , nothing called "IP". Can we stop this #propaganda drive? It's not property. https://www.patentdocs.org/2021/06/uspto-webinar-on-china-ip.html | Jun 20 11:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patentdocs.org | Patent Docs: USPTO Webinar on China IP | Jun 20 11:20 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | #greenwashing + #patent #monopolies + #epo #corruption (patents granted on almost anything!) = https://www.steelorbis.com/steel-news/latest-news/voestalpine-announces-patent-for-carbon_neutral-sponge-iron-production-1204238.htm | Jun 20 11:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.steelorbis.com | Voestalpine announces patent for carbon-neutral sponge iron production | Jun 20 11:22 | |
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| techrights-bot/fn | #Patents that limit access to #cancer prevention/mitigation again https://www.marketscreener.com/quote/stock/SCANDINAVIAN-CHEMOTECH-AB-61747375/news/Scandinavian-ChemoTech-nbsp-receives-approval-from-the-European-Patent-Office-35631358/ see http://techrights.org/2015/12/26/epo-and-cancer/ | Jun 20 11:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Scandinavian ChemoTech : receives approval from the European Patent Office | MarketScreener | Jun 20 11:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Insensitivity at the EPO’s Management – Part II: Patent Office as a Cancer | Techrights | Jun 20 11:24 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | These #patents are bunk, but the law firms make money even when their clients pursue patently #fakepatents https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/how-to-patent-software-and-computer-8673081/ #swpats | Jun 20 11:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How To Patent Software And Computer-Implemented Business Methods In The US And Abroad | Fox Rothschild LLP - JDSupra | Jun 20 11:25 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | This Week in Linux 156: #elementaryOS 6.0, JingPad A1, Pine64, Windows 11 Leaked? - TuxDigital ⚓ https://tuxdigital.com/2021/06/thisweekinlinux-156/ ䷉ #TuxDigital #GNU #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/20/#latest | Jun 20 11:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-156: elementary OS 6.0, JingPad A1, Pine64, Windows 11 Leaked? | This Week in Linux - TuxDigital | Jun 20 11:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts | Jun 20 11:29 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | #ibm #ProprietarySoftware #security holes https://marketresearchtelecast.com/security-updates-for-ibm-db2-and-aix-close-loopholes/78907/ | Jun 20 11:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-marketresearchtelecast.com | Security updates for IBM Db2 and AIX close loopholes - Market Research Telecast | Jun 20 11:30 | |
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| techrights-bot/fn | The Ultimate Alternatives To Blender. https://ventsmagazine.com/2021/06/19/the-ultimate-alternatives-to-blender/ #blender3d #freesw | Jun 20 11:33 |
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| techrights-bot/fn | #Programming for clowns, as the buzzwords du jour certainly determine what sort of coding environment is most suitable or 'trendy'? The Best Cloud Computing Programming Languages To Learn | Jun 20 11:35 |
| techrights-bot/fn | This is the #clowncomputing nonsense I was alluding to... https://hackernoon.com/the-best-cloud-computing-programming-languages-to-learn-hf32378y | Jun 20 11:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackernoon.com | The Best Cloud Computing Programming Languages To Learn | Hacker Noon | Jun 20 11:35 | |
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| techrights-bot/fn | The death business is a growing sector or growth area in the US. STOP BEING POOR! GO KILL PEOPLE! https://www.nationofchange.org/2021/06/18/unknown-soldiers-americas-secret-privatized-army/ | Jun 20 11:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nationofchange.org | Unknown soldiers: America’s secret, privatized army - NationofChange | Jun 20 11:37 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | Didn't imagine I'd see #patents being referred to as #techrights (well, #patent monopolies are NOT rights, but this article says "tech rights") https://www.reuters.com/legal/transactional/brief-stanford-professors-company-sues-oxford-institute-over-dna-tech-rights-2021-06-11/ | Jun 20 11:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-IN BRIEF: Stanford professor’s company sues Oxford institute over DNA tech rights | Reuters | Jun 20 11:38 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | Better not to use such devices at all if you value #privacy ... they're a lost cause, by design. https://trabulsy4872.medium.com/yes-you-should-do-a-smartphone-cleanse-no-youll-never-get-free-of-your-smartphone-16975ffb1cd4 | Jun 20 11:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-trabulsy4872.medium.com | Yes You Should Do a Smartphone Cleanse. No You’ll Never Get Free of Your Smartphone. | by Raymond Trabulsy | Jun, 2021 | Medium | Jun 20 11:41 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | They should instead remove ALL #ProprietarySoftware with back doors, inc. everything with #windows in it https://www.theregister.com/2021/06/04/biden_admin_issues_ransomware_guidance/ | Jun 20 11:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Good news for pentesters and network admins: US issues ransomware guidance asking biz to skill up security teams • The Register | Jun 20 11:41 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | Disadvantaged young people have no faith in exam grades appeals system, government warned ⚓ https://inews.co.uk/news/education/disadvantaged-young-people-no-faith-exam-grades-appeals-system-government-warned-1061480 broken system, greedy system. Go back to basics.... | Jun 20 11:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-inews.co.uk | Disadvantaged young people have no faith in exam grades appeals system, government warned | Jun 20 11:43 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | Racist companies pretend to care about #racism https://kvia.com/news/business-technology/2021/06/19/companies-are-celebrating-juneteenth-in-unique-ways-this-week/ sometimes they more racist they are, the more likely they are to exploit/hijack/undermine such causes. #ibm for instance: http://techrights.org/2020/08/16/ibm-powered-purges/ | Jun 20 11:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Companies are celebrating Juneteenth in unique ways this week - KVIA | Jun 20 11:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Full Story (With References) of IBM’s Role in a Purge of Black People and Mixed-Race Couples | Techrights | Jun 20 11:44 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | "A Microsoft spokesperson told The Register"... another #microsoft puff piece. A lost cause... http://techrights.org/2021/02/28/the-register-microsoft-pr/ | Jun 20 11:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Fall of The Register | Techrights | Jun 20 11:45 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | " #Microsoft spokesperson" and "Chronic liar" are synonyms. | Jun 20 11:46 |
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| techrights-bot/fn | "The software was made available in primary care e-Health facilities through the support of the SEED Project. Healthcare workers trained under the National Skills Qualifications Framework (NSQF) or certified by the National Skill Development Corporation (NSDC)" https://www.cnbctv18.com/healthcare/new-software-helps-identify-patients-likely-to-suffer-severe-covid-symptoms-govt-9714111.htm | Jun 20 11:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnbctv18.com | New Software Helps Identify Patients Likely To Suffer Severe Covid Symptoms: Govt | Jun 20 11:47 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | Debian 10.10 released with latest security updatesDebian 10.10 released with latest security updates http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152468#comment-29999 | Jun 20 11:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian 10.10 release 202106191548 | Tux Machines | Jun 20 11:50 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | Do not let #linuxfoundation claim that the #gnu #linux operating system is turning 30 this year. It turns 38. http://techrights.org/2021/04/30/gnu-linux-turning-38/ | Jun 20 11:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Show Your Love for the GNU Operating System With These Banners | Techrights | Jun 20 11:51 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | The #linuxfoundation sold "LINUX" to #microsoft https://www.greenbiz.com/article/future-climate-friendly-software see explanation in http://techrights.org/2021/05/31/linux-brand-killed-by-lf/ shame on #zemlin and the Sunshine Boys, who don't even USE Linux | Jun 20 11:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The future is climate-friendly software | Greenbiz | Jun 20 11:53 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation Has Killed the Linux Brand (in Pursuit of Short-Term Profits) | Techrights | Jun 20 11:53 | |
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| techrights-bot/fn | #marketing trash and #propaganda vehicle #ZDNet now hyping up #6g #patent pool. If you care about truth and accuracy, you will #boycottZDNet because it makes you dumb and misled. http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/ZDNet | Jun 20 11:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | ZDNet - Techrights | Jun 20 11:54 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | #TechCrunch joins the #corruptMedia and calls everything "HEY HI", even just some computer or some computer program. Link omitted ("Robotaxi apps on the rise, an AI pioneer’s new startup and mobility event highlights"). | Jun 20 11:56 |
| techrights-bot/fn | Ray Charles Foundation https://www.harlemworldmagazine.com/non-profit-goes-virtual-with-free-tutoring-and-summer-enrichment-for-students-from-harlem-to-hawthorne/ | Jun 20 11:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.harlemworldmagazine.com | Non-Profit Goes Virtual With Free Tutoring And Summer Enrichment From Harlem To Hawthorne | Jun 20 11:58 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | #KDE #Akademy 2021 Video Streams As Developers Discuss #Wayland , Frameworks 6, #Qt https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=KDE-Akademy-2021 | Jun 20 12:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-KDE Akademy 2021 Video Streams As Developers Discuss Wayland, Frameworks 6, Qt - Phoronix | Jun 20 12:01 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | #ft took bribes from the #epo (this is well documented) and now it's just #corruptMedia for private #litigation firms. Avoid FT. It's corrupt. https://www.ft.com/content/e40f1dde-3dbb-4b83-a596-5dd594abba75 | Jun 20 12:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ft.com | IP law firms battle flush tech groups to hire top talent | Financial Times | Jun 20 12:03 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | "I am aware of multiple instances of NFTs being minted and then sold without an artist's permission or any interaction with the artist at all- just ripped off social media for example." http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/06/guest-post-nft-implications-for-ip-case.html?showComment=1624020777038#c2797331886446366606 | Jun 20 12:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Guest post: NFT implications for IP: A case study on 'Morons' - The IPKat | Jun 20 12:05 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | As if #taylorwessing ever cared about justice... https://www.taylorwessing.com/zh-hant/insights-and-events/insights/2021/05/european-court-of-justice-rules-on-law-applicable-to-avoidance-actions they don't ever care about truth and facts http://techrights.org/2020/05/15/latest-upc-spin-2020/ | Jun 20 12:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.taylorwessing.com | European Court of Justice rules on law applicable to avoidance actions | Jun 20 12:08 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Taylor Wessing’s Latest UPC Spin: No More/Additional Complaints Against UPC Lodged | Techrights | Jun 20 12:08 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | "The EPO’s stay of the grant of an application following an entitlement claim (an ‘entitlement torpedo’) another one. And then there is the central limitation procedure…" http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/06/19/epo-central-limitation-v-national-proceedings/ no mention that TBA itself is corrupted http://techrights.org/2021/06/19/carl-josefsson-in-the-shadows/ | Jun 20 12:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | EPO Central Limitation v National Proceedings - Kluwer Patent Blog | Jun 20 12:09 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Virtual Injustice — Part 12: Carl Josefsson – Down But Not Out! | Techrights | Jun 20 12:09 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | No connection at all to #opensource or #freesw ... but maybe better than this month's two articles about what BREAKFAST you should have... if you're sharing code (?!?!) https://opensource.com/article/21/6/2021-opensourcecom-summer-reading-list | Jun 20 12:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-8 books open source technologists should read this summer | Opensource.com | Jun 20 12:17 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | #Akademy 2021 – II https://blog.bembel.net/2021/06/akademy-2021-ii/ #kde #freesw #gnu #linux | Jun 20 12:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.bembel.net | Akademy 2021 – II – bembel.net | Jun 20 12:18 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152481 | Jun 20 12:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 20 12:28 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | As if #euipo itself obeys the #law https://www.mondaq.com/uk/trademark/1069990/new-european-union-intellectual-property-office-examination-guidelines-enter-into-force a den of scandals: http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/EUIPO | Jun 20 12:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | New European Union Intellectual Property Office Examination Guidelines Enter Into Force - Intellectual Property - European Union | Jun 20 12:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EUIPO - Techrights | Jun 20 12:30 | |
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| techrights-bot/fn | #EUIPO for #surveillance https://www.mondaq.com/uk/copyright/1076268/european-union-intellectual-property-office-observatory-publishes-report-on-monitoring-and-analysing-ipr-infringement-on-social-media tarnishes the image of the #EU http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/EUIPO | Jun 20 12:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | European Union Intellectual Property Office Observatory Publishes Report On Monitoring And Analysing IPR Infringement On Social Media - Intellectual Property - European Union | Jun 20 12:35 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | Buzzwords salad about making malicious cars that spy on drivers and passengers. What have we sunk to? https://www.itprotoday.com/edge-computing/automakers-race-iot-and-manufacturing-edge | Jun 20 12:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itprotoday.com | Automakers Race to the IoT and Manufacturing Edge | IT Pro | Jun 20 12:39 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | Royole RoKit - A flexible display development kit with a #Snapdragon 660 board - CNX Software ⚓ https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/06/20/royole-rokit-a-flexible-display-development-kit-with-a-snapdragon-660-board/ ䷉ #Linux #GNU #Hardware #cnxsoftware | Jun 20 12:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Royole RoKit - A flexible display development kit with a Snapdragon 660 board - CNX Software | Jun 20 12:40 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | FOSS Patents: #Munich I Regional Court well-placed to create third #patent litigation division should need arise: Judge Dr. Werner is now a Presiding Judge ⚓ http://www.fosspatents.com/2021/06/munich-i-regional-court-well-placed-to.html ䷉ #fosspatents | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/20/#latest | Jun 20 12:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosspatents.com | FOSS Patents: Munich I Regional Court well-placed to create third patent litigation division should need arise: Judge Dr. Werner is now a Presiding Judge | Jun 20 12:41 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts | Jun 20 12:41 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | #KDE: Akademy, Kalendar (GSoC 2021) • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152482 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 20 12:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE: Akademy, Kalendar (GSoC 2021) | Tux Machines | Jun 20 12:42 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▆▅▃▄▇▃▅▃▅▆▄▄▅▆▆▁▂▅▂▃▆▆▃▆▄▅▆▆▅▆▃▁ avg(k/sec) 25.35 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▁▂█▁▁▂▁▂█▂▂█▁▂▁▂▃▁█▂▂▁▂▂▁▂▁▂▂▁▁▂▂▂▂█▁ avg(k/sec) 54.30▕ swarm size (avg): 301.91 ⟲ | Jun 20 12:59 |
| techrights-bot/fn | Tossing out #fakePatents in #china https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2021/6/16/the-trials-and-tribulations-of-chinese-patent-invalidation-proceedings #cn #patents | Jun 20 13:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.unifiedpatents.com | The trials and tribulations of Chinese patent invalidation proceedings — Unified Patents | Jun 20 13:00 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | #epo giving more #patent #monopolies for #cancer https://www.streetinsider.com/Corporate+News/Enlivex+Therapeutics+%28ENLV%29+Announces+Issuance+of+New+European+Patent+Covering+Therapeutic+Compositions+of+Allocetra+and+CAR-T+Immunotherapies+for+Inhibition+or+Reduction+of+Cytokine+Storms+Associated/18559970.html https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2021/06/15/2247233/0/en/Enlivex <clipped message> | Jun 20 13:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.streetinsider.com | Enlivex Therapeutics (ENLV) Announces Issuance of New European Patent Covering Therapeutic Compositions of Allocetra and CAR-T Immunotherapies for Inhibition or Reduction of Cytokine Storms Associated | Jun 20 13:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2021/06/15/2247233/0/en/Enlivex ) | Jun 20 13:02 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | -Announces-Issuance-of-New-European-Pat | Jun 20 13:02 |
| techrights-bot/fn | The EPO’s stance on #cancer recalled, in light of an altercation from 2013 ( #patent application no. EP03017743.0, appeal number T0598/12-3.3.02) http://techrights.org/2015/12/26/epo-and-cancer/ | Jun 20 13:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Insensitivity at the EPO’s Management – Part II: Patent Office as a Cancer | Techrights | Jun 20 13:03 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | It is absolute insanity to conflate #patents with publication and pretend that anything not patented simply does not exist (irrespective of how insipid those patents may be) https://www.hortidaily.com/article/9330555/china-produces-more-crispr-cas-publications-than-eu-and-us-combined/ | Jun 20 13:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.hortidaily.com | China produces more Crispr-Cas publications than EU and US combined | Jun 20 13:05 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | Hopefully this pandemic can make more of these #patent #lawyers redundant; they were already waste of space and budget, wasting company resources by spreading their ruinous #religious to inflame wars, #litigation https://www.managingip.com/article/b1s9bbnfxvps3r/lawyers-predict-how-office-life-is-about-to-change | Jun 20 13:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | Lawyers predict how office life is about to change | Managing Intellectual Property | Jun 20 13:07 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | European #Patents challenged for obviousness again; JUVE turns that into some #lawyers #marketing SPAM https://www.juve-patent.com/news-and-stories/cases/success-for-womble-bond-dickinson-and-geofabrics-over-railway-track-beds/ | Jun 20 13:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.juve-patent.com | Success for Womble Bond Dickinson and Geofabrics over railway track beds - JUVE Patent | Jun 20 13:11 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | "On May 11, Icelandic-based drug developer Alvotech filed a lawsuit against AbbVie seeking to undo what it alleges is a “minefield” of “invalid” patents surrounding what is arguably the pharma giant’s most prized possession: Humira." https://www.healio.com/news/rheumatology/20210617/market-gears-up-for-biosimilar-boom-in-2023-as-humira-exclusivity-draws-to-a-close | Jun 20 13:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.healio.com | Market gears up for biosimilar boom in 2023 as Humira exclusivity draws to a close | Jun 20 13:12 | |
| *mib_ldszmk (~5198ee27@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights | Jun 20 13:14 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | #freenode webchat seems to have mostly been recovered, but their #irc servers block/limit my IP. https://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#techrights | Jun 20 13:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-webchat.freenode.net | Kiwi IRC | Jun 20 13:16 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | Earlier today I mentioned #TaylorWessing ... don't forget that before their #teamUPC lies they also employed Klaus-Heiner Lehne with his rogue #swpats agenda http://techrights.org/2010/04/27/klaus-heiner-lehne-and-swpats/ | Jun 20 13:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Why Klaus-Heiner Lehne Lobbies for Software Patents (Money of Course) | Techrights | Jun 20 13:18 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | #TaylorWessing is a really nasty so-called 'law' firm (undermining the law itself). 1) http://techrights.org/2020/05/15/latest-upc-spin-2020/ 2) http://techrights.org/2020/04/15/team-upc-is-not-listening/ 3) http://techrights.org/2011/04/18/klaus-heiner-and-ms-florian/ | Jun 20 13:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | British Government Again Confirms Death of the UPC, But Team UPC is Not Listening | Techrights | Jun 20 13:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Klaus-Heiner Lehne Blasted for Conflict of Interest, Florian Müller Shares His Interests | Techrights | Jun 20 13:19 | |
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| techrights-bot/fn | #geminiProtocol people making fun of #www inventor who became #drm apologist and bloat/monopoly booster (gave #w3c to Pentagon giants) and now NFT crank https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/006705.html https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/006704.html https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/006706.html | Jun 20 13:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | A proposal to fund the Gemini project | Jun 20 13:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | A proposal to fund the Gemini project | Jun 20 13:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | A proposal to fund the Gemini project | Jun 20 13:30 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | #freenode : from over 90,000 online users (a few months ago) to just over 20,000. A lot of that it Freenode's own fault at this stage. Had they not made a series of blunders/errors, they would still be over 50,000. https://netsplit.de/networks/statistics.php?net=freenode | Jun 20 13:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-netsplit.de | NO TITLE | Jun 20 13:34 | |
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| techrights-bot/fn | #freenode staff leaving, update hours ago https://git.freenode.net/freenode-web/web-7-0/-/commit/a13c23f799e34a714102da85455c68e69f8b5d37 | Jun 20 13:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.freenode.net | Updated people (a13c23f7) · Commits · freenode-web / web-7-0 · GitLab | Jun 20 13:36 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | By all means I do commend #freenode for deciding to #deletegithub after I suggested that. I still don't know who or what provides site hosting because it's hidden behind #clownflare | Jun 20 13:39 |
| techrights-bot/fn | "A shiny replacement for http://freenode.net." https://git.freenode.net/freenode-web/web-7-0 | Jun 20 13:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-freenode.net | freenode | Jun 20 13:41 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.freenode.net | freenode-web / web-7-0 · GitLab | Jun 20 13:41 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | " #freenode collects and uses certain information about users in order to provide services and enable certain functions." https://git.freenode.net/freenode-web/web-7-0/-/blob/main/content/pages/policies.md | Jun 20 13:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.freenode.net | content/pages/policies.md · main · freenode-web / web-7-0 · GitLab | Jun 20 13:42 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | This is where #freenode Ltd. is based/registered. https://www.google.com/maps/@51.5147184,-0.1234375,3a,75y,340.17h,89.68t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sGaY_ms9T5gmwbALXNwl0-g!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DGaY_ms9T5gmwbALXNwl0-g%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D334.05743%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192 | Jun 20 13:44 |
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| techrights-bot/fn | Way to track who leaves and who joins #freenode https://git.freenode.net/freenode-web/web-7-0/-/commit/53c9cc0f3e519de07a2a1dd28b0c8d8e0d0c0398 | Jun 20 13:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.freenode.net | pretty sure i broke everything. added staff/removed some (53c9cc0f) · Commits · freenode-web / web-7-0 · GitLab | Jun 20 13:46 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | Today in #Techrights • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152483 | Jun 20 13:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jun 20 13:47 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | To better understand why #ircd was altered by #freenode look into the changes here https://git.freenode.net/freenode-public/IRCSERVER | Jun 20 13:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.freenode.net | freenode-public / IRCSERVER · GitLab | Jun 20 13:53 | |
| *XRevan86 still doesn't understand the IRCd switch, | Jun 20 13:55 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | "Please do not report security vulnerabilities on GitHub. Instead, get the attention of a developer in our development IRC channel at irc.inspircd.org #inspircd.dev and PM them the details." https://git.freenode.net/freenode-public/IRCSERVER/-/blob/insp3/.github/SECURITY.md #kiwiIRC removed. | Jun 20 13:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.freenode.net | .github/SECURITY.md · insp3 · freenode-public / IRCSERVER · GitLab | Jun 20 13:56 | |
| XRevan86 | This commit is from upstream, schestowitz. | Jun 20 13:57 |
| techrights-bot/fn | Will LC look to 'cancel' #freenode for calling their git branches 'master'? Does that mean they oppress people? https://git.freenode.net/freenode-public/IRCSERVER/-/tree/master | Jun 20 13:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.freenode.net | Files · master · freenode-public / IRCSERVER · GitLab | Jun 20 13:57 | |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: not all of it | Jun 20 13:57 |
| schestowitz | I think | Jun 20 13:57 |
| schestowitz | 6 days ago | Jun 20 13:57 |
| schestowitz | unless they pull it downstream still | Jun 20 13:57 |
| XRevan86 | Sadie Powell is the developer of InspIRCd | Jun 20 13:57 |
| schestowitz | "Sadie Powell " | Jun 20 13:58 |
| schestowitz | ah, OK | Jun 20 13:58 |
| schestowitz | yes, makes sense | Jun 20 13:58 |
| XRevan86 | She doesn't like what happened to freenode and won't collaborate. | Jun 20 13:58 |
| XRevan86 | And the master branch is from inspircd too. | Jun 20 13:59 |
| schestowitz | https://git.freenode.net/freenode-public/cms7/-/tree/master/ | Jun 20 14:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.freenode.net | Files · master · freenode-public / cms7 · GitLab | Jun 20 14:00 | |
| schestowitz | can you figure out where they host the same, based on this? | Jun 20 14:00 |
| XRevan86 | There's nothing for deployment here. | Jun 20 14:01 |
| schestowitz | https://git.freenode.net/freenode-public/freenodejobs | Jun 20 14:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.freenode.net | freenode-public / freenodejobs · GitLab | Jun 20 14:01 | |
| schestowitz | "Chris Lamb authored 1 year ago" | Jun 20 14:01 |
| schestowitz | THAT Lamb | Jun 20 14:01 |
| XRevan86 | https://chris-lamb.co.uk/ that Lamb? | Jun 20 14:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-chris-lamb.co.uk | Chris Lamb | Jun 20 14:02 | |
| schestowitz | https://git.freenode.net/freenode-public/roadmap | Jun 20 14:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.freenode.net | freenode-public / roadmap · GitLab | Jun 20 14:02 | |
| schestowitz | they planned to move to solanum | Jun 20 14:02 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: It's known, yes. | Jun 20 14:03 |
| XRevan86 | Solanum is an effort to revive Charybdis and as such supersedes ircd-seven | Jun 20 14:03 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: And they did, on Libera Chat. | Jun 20 14:05 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Ye won't be able to find where it's all hosted from the repos. The repos are pretty dead for one thing. | Jun 20 14:06 |
| schestowitz | I found out for myself... | Jun 20 14:08 |
| techrights-bot/fn | European Patent Convention (EPC) is routinely violated though, just like the firm that wrote it violates many laws and got sued for it, parties alleging #corruption https://www.mondaq.com/uk/patent/1079318/introduction-of-eurasian-industrial-design-protection | Jun 20 14:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | Introduction Of Eurasian Industrial Design Protection - Intellectual Property - UK | Jun 20 14:09 | |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Asked around or found a subdomain that isn't behind cloudfront? | Jun 20 14:10 |
| techrights-bot/fn | This entire article is a Big Lie, and a lie that the corrupt #EPO bribed the FT for. #CorruptMedia lying the people under the guise of "news" https://www.ft.com/content/545395ae-06c1-4c12-9063-841cf9e70833 @zoobab | Jun 20 14:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ft.com | Delayed Europe patent court launch prolongs frustration | Financial Times | Jun 20 14:11 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | #EPO ‘Bought’ the Financial Times, Which Now Operates in ‘Mouthpiece Mode’ for Mr. #Battistelli http://techrights.org/2016/06/10/epo-money-to-media-companies/ #FinancialTimes = #orruptMedia in service of rich criminals | Jun 20 14:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO ‘Bought’ the Financial Times, Which Now Operates in ‘Mouthpiece Mode’ for Mr. Battistelli | Techrights | Jun 20 14:12 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | "method for the distribution of information, typically digital information that is distributed actively, through broadcast media such as television and radio." = abstract #patents = #swpats = #fakepatents https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2021/6/17/prior-art-found-on-668-optinetix-patent | Jun 20 14:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.unifiedpatents.com | Prior art found on '668 Optinetix patent — Unified Patents | Jun 20 14:14 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | FOSS Patents: #Munich may become the circuit with the most consistent patent case law in Germany if Judge Zigann is promoted and Judge Werner succeeds him ⚓ http://www.fosspatents.com/2021/06/munich-may-become-circuit-with-most.html ䷉ #fosspatents #de | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/20/#latest | Jun 20 14:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosspatents.com | FOSS Patents: Munich may become the circuit with the most consistent patent case law in Germany if Judge Zigann is promoted and Judge Werner succeeds him | Jun 20 14:15 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts | Jun 20 14:15 | |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: I asked around | Jun 20 14:16 |
| schestowitz | but nobody could find the answer | Jun 20 14:16 |
| schestowitz | we know LC is all Microsoft, except the IRC side | Jun 20 14:16 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Indeed. I doubt they can be convinced to self-host that though. | Jun 20 14:17 |
| schestowitz | I guess Microsoft is very very Liberal http://techrights.org/2021/04/04/microsoft-nationalism/ | Jun 20 14:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft: Nationalism As A Service (NaaS) | Techrights | Jun 20 14:17 | |
| schestowitz | hosted by ICE provider | Jun 20 14:17 |
| XRevan86 | They're not in the same position as freenode, Ltd. | Jun 20 14:17 |
| schestowitz | managed by ICE provider | Jun 20 14:17 |
| schestowitz | very libera(tm) | Jun 20 14:17 |
| schestowitz | try figuring out the IP of freenode.net | Jun 20 14:18 |
| XRevan86 | But GitLab.com also provides hosting for static sites, why not use that | Jun 20 14:18 |
| schestowitz | not clownflare | Jun 20 14:18 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: cloudfront is there exactly to make that impossible | Jun 20 14:19 |
| schestowitz | what does this run? | Jun 20 14:19 |
| schestowitz | this still linked to shithub at the bottom | Jun 20 14:20 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: What is? | Jun 20 14:20 |
| schestowitz | https://www.findip-address.com/104.25.67.39 | Jun 20 14:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.findip-address.com | 104.25.67.39 - Find IP Address - Lookup and locate an ip address | Jun 20 14:20 | |
| XRevan86 | Libera Chat uses Jekyll | Jun 20 14:20 |
| schestowitz | "" | Jun 20 14:21 |
| schestowitz | Cloudflare" | Jun 20 14:21 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: * Cloudflare, sorry | Jun 20 14:21 |
| schestowitz | ping chit.freenode.net | Jun 20 14:22 |
| schestowitz | PING chit.freenode.net (104.25.68.39) | Jun 20 14:22 |
| schestowitz | "The requested URL was not found on this server." | Jun 20 14:22 |
| schestowitz | https://chit.freenode.net/u/newsbot/125.Html | Jun 20 14:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://chit.freenode.net/u/newsbot/125.Html ) | Jun 20 14:22 | |
| schestowitz | big H, so we know it's unix/linux/gnu | Jun 20 14:22 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 20 14:22 |
| schestowitz | <link rel="manifest" href="/site.webmanifest"> | Jun 20 14:22 |
| schestowitz | <link rel="mask-icon" href="/safari-pinned-tab.svg" color="#5bbad5"> | Jun 20 14:23 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 20 14:23 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Jun 20 14:23 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Never doubted that. | Jun 20 14:23 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Cute Git button there at the bottom. | Jun 20 14:23 |
| schestowitz | I notice preference there for MIT licence | Jun 20 14:23 |
| schestowitz | https://chit.freenode.net/u/newsbot/99.html | Jun 20 14:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-chit.freenode.net | newsbot - Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 16:57:31 GMT - freenode Chit | Jun 20 14:25 | |
| XRevan86 | https://github.com/realrasengan/freenode-jobs that's the real source code | Jun 20 14:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - realrasengan/freenode-jobs: freenode Jobs aims to connect those looking to hire within the immense talent that can be found within the wider freenode community. https://jobs.freenode.net | Jun 20 14:25 | |
| schestowitz | it's a very simple page with a very simple program and freenode log | Jun 20 14:25 |
| schestowitz | logo | Jun 20 14:25 |
| XRevan86 | Don't know what https://git.freenode.net/freenode-public/freenodejobs is | Jun 20 14:25 |
| schestowitz | very simple to implement this | Jun 20 14:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.freenode.net | freenode-public / freenodejobs · GitLab | Jun 20 14:25 | |
| schestowitz | but to guard against abuse very time-consuming | Jun 20 14:25 |
| XRevan86 | Probably an earlier attempt from the former staff? | Jun 20 14:26 |
| schestowitz | https://sitereport.netcraft.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ffreenode.net | Jun 20 14:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sitereport.netcraft.com | Site report for https://freenode.net | Netcraft | Jun 20 14:26 | |
| schestowitz | Domain registrargandi.ne | Jun 20 14:26 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Ye expected something else? | Jun 20 14:26 |
| *sepsinn (~sepsinn@c9nu4ummhfn7e.irc) has joined #techrights | Jun 20 14:27 | |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: We know how the domain registration is even organised on Gandi. | Jun 20 14:27 |
| techrights-bot/fn | FOSS Patents: #Apple , #Intel reject Fortress Investment's criticism that their second amended #antitrust complaint lacks plausibility, want to proceed to trial at long last ⚓ http://www.fosspatents.com/2021/06/apple-intel-reject-fortress-investments.html ䷉ #fosspatents | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/20/#latest | Jun 20 14:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosspatents.com | FOSS Patents: Apple, Intel reject Fortress Investment's criticism that their second amended antitrust complaint lacks plausibility, want to proceed to trial at long last | Jun 20 14:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts | Jun 20 14:29 | |
| schestowitz | yes, but it's always worth doubled-blind testing | Jun 20 14:30 |
| schestowitz | if they used to be in shithub for hosting and got off it, that's a good thing | Jun 20 14:30 |
| schestowitz | they have rss | Jun 20 14:30 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: I want to emphasise that freenode, Ltd. is in a stronger position to self-host. | Jun 20 14:31 |
| XRevan86 | (don't know if they cared to move off GitHub Pages) | Jun 20 14:31 |
| schestowitz | Author: christel https://freenode.net/news/live-2018 | Jun 20 14:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-freenode.net | freenode #live 2018 is a wrap, thank YOU! - freenode | Jun 20 14:31 | |
| XRevan86 | The choice of site hosting is unfortunate but understandable to me. | Jun 20 14:32 |
| schestowitz | ANY dependence on ShitHub would contradicts those two: https://freenode.net/news/for-foss https://freenode.net/news/freenode-is-foss | Jun 20 14:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-freenode.net | freenode exists for FOSS - freenode | Jun 20 14:33 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-freenode.net | On freenode and its commitment to FOSS - freenode | Jun 20 14:33 | |
| schestowitz | so I assume they plan to move or have moved off the proprietary things | Jun 20 14:33 |
| XRevan86 | If they can self-host GitLab, they definitely can pull off a mere static page. | Jun 20 14:34 |
| schestowitz | https://www.secjuice.com/finding-real-ips-of-origin-servers-behind-cloudflare-or-tor/ | Jun 20 14:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.secjuice.com | Finding real IPs of origin servers behind CloudFlare or Tor | Jun 20 14:34 | |
| schestowitz | https://geekflare.com/find-real-ip-address-of-website-powered-by-cloudflare/ http://www.crimeflare.org:82/cfs.html | Jun 20 14:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-geekflare.com | Find Real IP address of Website Powered by Cloudflare | Jun 20 14:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.crimeflare.org | Uncovering bad guys hiding behind CloudFlare | Jun 20 14:38 | |
| schestowitz | "A direct-connect IP address was found: freenode.net 5.63.147.125 UNITED KINGDOM " | Jun 20 14:39 |
| schestowitz | cannot access http://5.63.147.125/ | Jun 20 14:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Connection timed out after 10001 milliseconds ( status 0 @ http://5.63.147.125/ ) | Jun 20 14:39 | |
| schestowitz | so maybe it only allowd httpd conns to CF IPs | Jun 20 14:39 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 20 14:40 |
| schestowitz | Previous lookups for this domain: | Jun 20 14:40 |
| schestowitz | 2016-07-13: freenode.net 5.63.147.125 UNITED KINGDOM | Jun 20 14:40 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 20 14:40 |
| schestowitz | https://www.findip-address.com/ | Jun 20 14:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.findip-address.com | Find IP Address - Lookup and locate an ip address | Jun 20 14:41 | |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 20 14:41 |
| schestowitz | Hosting Services Inc | Jun 20 14:41 |
| schestowitz | domain100tb.com | Jun 20 14:41 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 20 14:41 |
| *job (~job@bfjdrpzm6v77y.irc) has joined #techrights | Jun 20 14:41 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.crimeflare.org:82/cgi-bin/domlist/_18842-dina-noah | Jun 20 14:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.crimeflare.org | Uncovering bad guys hiding behind CloudFlare | Jun 20 14:42 | |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 20 14:42 |
| schestowitz | dina noah freenode.com | Jun 20 14:42 |
| schestowitz | dina noah freenode.net | Jun 20 14:42 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 20 14:42 |
| schestowitz | So I think we can safely say it's not shithub-hosted | Jun 20 14:42 |
| schestowitz | and they dumped shithub for code | Jun 20 14:42 |
| techrights-bot/fn | For the record, #freenode decided to #deletegithub whereas LC (Libera Chat) uses #proprietarysoftware of #Microsoft both for coding and for hosting their site (everything except the IRCd stuff). | Jun 20 14:43 |
| techrights-bot/fn | And even though #freenode hides the site behind #clownflare the real IP address is 5.63.147.125 | Jun 20 14:44 |
| XRevan86 | or maybe it's not, who knows | Jun 20 14:44 |
| schestowitz | seems likely it is | Jun 20 14:45 |
| schestowitz | and I can explain why | Jun 20 14:45 |
| schestowitz | but it was same address years ago | Jun 20 14:45 |
| schestowitz | so they changed nothing already done by christel and team | Jun 20 14:45 |
| schestowitz | we could always just ask her.. https://keybase.io/christel | Jun 20 14:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-keybase.io | christel (Christel Dahlskjaer) | Keybase | Jun 20 14:46 | |
| schestowitz | but I doubt she wishes to say anything to anyone about it... | Jun 20 14:46 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Speaking of, git.freenode.net is actually not behind cloudflare. | Jun 20 14:47 |
| schestowitz | "Events and Community Outreach at London Trust Media, Inc. / Private Internet Access." | Jun 20 14:47 |
| schestowitz | So she was a 'proper' staff of Lee. | Jun 20 14:47 |
| XRevan86 | It's hosted by… Shells™ | Jun 20 14:47 |
| schestowitz | makes sense | Jun 20 14:47 |
| schestowitz | it's new | Jun 20 14:47 |
| schestowitz | and that's his brother's netblock | Jun 20 14:47 |
| schestowitz | https://github.com/christeld | Jun 20 14:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-christeld (Christel D.) · GitHub | Jun 20 14:48 | |
| schestowitz | she has an off choice of profile photo | Jun 20 14:48 |
| schestowitz | like something or someone died | Jun 20 14:48 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: If Christel had wanted to answer questions, she would've done so by now. | Jun 20 14:48 |
| schestowitz | https://www.indexoncensorship.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/EMK_4096web-1024x684.jpg | Jun 20 14:49 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: maybe there are no easy answers (for her) | Jun 20 14:49 |
| schestowitz | either way, we now know a little more about the setup | Jun 20 14:49 |
| schestowitz | and the Shells(r) integration | Jun 20 14:49 |
| schestowitz | irc.com also | Jun 20 14:49 |
| schestowitz | I just want to predict the next step/s | Jun 20 14:49 |
| XRevan86 | I don't know why, but to me it's either the intention to stay away from the drama or from rasengan's lawyers. | Jun 20 14:49 |
| schestowitz | because they sure aren't saying anything... | Jun 20 14:50 |
| schestowitz | midnight... BOOM! DROP TABLE *.... | Jun 20 14:50 |
| schestowitz | let's move to another irc daemon and start from scratch | Jun 20 14:50 |
| schestowitz | sending many projects scrambling for channels and namespace | Jun 20 14:50 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Well, ye should also see why freenode self-hosts GitLab and Libera Chat doesn't. | Jun 20 14:50 |
| schestowitz | wait | Jun 20 14:51 |
| schestowitz | LC doesn't even use GL | Jun 20 14:51 |
| schestowitz | they use GH | Jun 20 14:51 |
| schestowitz | that's a problem | Jun 20 14:51 |
| schestowitz | and contributes to many factors why I did not trust them | Jun 20 14:51 |
| schestowitz | no matter how much you and others urges me to jump across | Jun 20 14:51 |
| schestowitz | you don't simply jump with everyone to an IRC network that chooses Microsoft for everything | Jun 20 14:51 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: True, and I don't know why for the public hosting they're choosing GitHub. | Jun 20 14:52 |
| schestowitz | and they're technically competent so there is no excuse for that | Jun 20 14:52 |
| schestowitz | surely they know how to set up apache/lamp stack | Jun 20 14:52 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Setup where? | Jun 20 14:52 |
| schestowitz | for one thing, github embargoes some nations | Jun 20 14:52 |
| schestowitz | so BYE BYE diversity and inclusiveness. http://techrights.org/2019/07/28/linux-foundation-microsoft-outsourcing/ | Jun 20 14:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | People From Half a Dozen Countries May be Banned From Participating in the Linux Foundation Because It’s Outsourcing Many Projects to Microsoft/GitHub | Techrights | Jun 20 14:53 | |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: anywhere | Jun 20 14:53 |
| schestowitz | the site of IRC networks doesn't need a beefy servers | Jun 20 14:53 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: If ye can convince Ariadne to stop using GitHub for everything, then maybe there's hope :) | Jun 20 14:53 |
| schestowitz | most people just connect over part 66xx | Jun 20 14:53 |
| schestowitz | *port | Jun 20 14:53 |
| schestowitz | or some HA sieve that then channels requests to their cluster of servers around the world | Jun 20 14:53 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: The donated servers are donated for IRCd, not for hosting a website or even git. | Jun 20 14:53 |
| schestowitz | the web site of freenode gets little traffic | Jun 20 14:54 |
| schestowitz | according to netcraft | Jun 20 14:54 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Hmmm… speaking of, I wonder where web.libera.chat is hosted. | Jun 20 14:54 |
| schestowitz | and netcraft is tilted in favour of sysadmin | Jun 20 14:54 |
| schestowitz | becayse they're more likely to install such toolbar, unlike Alexa | Jun 20 14:54 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: go ahead and check | Jun 20 14:55 |
| XRevan86 | Cloudflare… | Jun 20 14:55 |
| schestowitz | https://sitereport.netcraft.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ffreenode.net | Jun 20 14:55 |
| schestowitz | "Site rank76796" | Jun 20 14:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sitereport.netcraft.com | Site report for https://freenode.net | Netcraft | Jun 20 14:55 | |
| schestowitz | clounflare is nos hosting | Jun 20 14:55 |
| schestowitz | it's a gate | Jun 20 14:55 |
| schestowitz | *not | Jun 20 14:55 |
| schestowitz | or cdn | Jun 20 14:55 |
| XRevan86 | It means I can't check | Jun 20 14:55 |
| schestowitz | https://sitereport.netcraft.com/?url=www.tuxmachines.org | Jun 20 14:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sitereport.netcraft.com | Site report for http://www.tuxmachines.org | Netcraft | Jun 20 14:56 | |
| schestowitz | "Site rank27333" | Jun 20 14:56 |
| XRevan86 | censys.io reveals that it's on a Hetzner VPS. | Jun 20 14:57 |
| schestowitz | LOL https://sitereport.netcraft.com/?url=linuxfoundation.org | Jun 20 14:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sitereport.netcraft.com | Site report for http://linuxfoundation.org | Netcraft | Jun 20 14:58 | |
| schestowitz | 139398th | Jun 20 14:58 |
| schestowitz | very low | Jun 20 14:58 |
| schestowitz | interesting | Jun 20 14:58 |
| schestowitz | we might be the first ones to actually analyse and compare these sorts of things | Jun 20 14:59 |
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| schestowitz | to me, it doesn't matter 'per se' | Jun 20 14:59 |
| schestowitz | but.. | Jun 20 14:59 |
| XRevan86 | Hm, well, if they have a VPS on Hetzner, then they can actually self-host their website. | Jun 20 14:59 |
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| schestowitz | it gives you some insights into the minds of the 'bosses' of the networks | Jun 20 14:59 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▇▃▅▅▃▃▂▄█▁▅▅▆▅▄▅▅▅▄▄▅▆▂▇▅▅▆▅▅▄▄▁ avg(k/sec) 37.85 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▂█▁▂▂▃▁█▁▄█▂▃▂▂▁▁▂▂▃▁▂▂█▂▁▂▂▁▂▁▁▂▁▁ avg(k/sec) 71.58▕ swarm size (avg): 301.82 ⟲ | Jun 20 14:59 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: so maybe their web admin/php/js hack is sort of a Microsoft fan | Jun 20 14:59 |
| schestowitz | and the team went along with it | Jun 20 14:59 |
| XRevan86 | I get that the website was brought up very early, and to start up kiwiirc they spent a lot more time but this is fixable. | Jun 20 15:00 |
| schestowitz | "yeah... sure... let's use github pages for our official site for up to 100,000 users" | Jun 20 15:00 |
| schestowitz | like some did with sourceforge btw | Jun 20 15:00 |
| schestowitz | and still do | Jun 20 15:00 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: It's not like sourceforge, because they can rehost the website in a matter of hours. | Jun 20 15:01 |
| XRevan86 | It's Jekyll | Jun 20 15:01 |
| MinceR | 20 073236 < DaemonFC> Ra wasn't a very exceptional Goa'uld though. He'd been living the same way for thousands of years and seemed to be barely self-aware. | Jun 20 15:01 |
| MinceR | i think they all were prior the events of Stargate | Jun 20 15:01 |
| immibis | XRevan86: a VPS isn't exactly self-hosting, it's VPS-hosting | Jun 20 15:01 |
| XRevan86 | immibis: I think that would suffice. | Jun 20 15:01 |
| schestowitz | those are portable | Jun 20 15:02 |
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| schestowitz | take image, port, power up | Jun 20 15:02 |
| immibis | and i would think that github would suffice as long as you had an escape plan, because git is portable. But clearly it doesn't | Jun 20 15:02 |
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| schestowitz | github is all vendor lockin | Jun 20 15:02 |
| schestowitz | "Issues" are not Git | Jun 20 15:02 |
| XRevan86 | Now git is another story. They sure can self-host gitea fairly easily, but GitLab and gitea are on two different levels. | Jun 20 15:02 |
| schestowitz | that's the third E in WWW | Jun 20 15:02 |
| schestowitz | *EEEE | Jun 20 15:02 |
| schestowitz | over WWW | Jun 20 15:02 |
| schestowitz | add some web 'features' | Jun 20 15:02 |
| schestowitz | make sure you deviate from the original | Jun 20 15:03 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Regarding the website specifically, it's not vendor lock-in. | Jun 20 15:03 |
| schestowitz | ok, so move it on | Jun 20 15:03 |
| schestowitz | deploy to another IP, change dns | Jun 20 15:03 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: They don't need to change DNS because Cloudflare %) | Jun 20 15:03 |
| schestowitz | clearly they don't feel like Microsoft owning their site is a problem | Jun 20 15:03 |
| schestowitz | so clownflare settings need changing | Jun 20 15:04 |
| XRevan86 | yes | Jun 20 15:04 |
| schestowitz | anyway that reeks of Microsoft apologism | Jun 20 15:04 |
| schestowitz | ICE apologism | Jun 20 15:04 |
| schestowitz | they host code with ICE enablers | Jun 20 15:04 |
| schestowitz | they host their site with ICE enablers | Jun 20 15:04 |
| schestowitz | don't give me that "libera" spiel | Jun 20 15:04 |
| schestowitz | they're helping racist nationalists | Jun 20 15:05 |
| schestowitz | but so many are still in denial about it http://techrights.org/2020/09/27/salesforce-works-for-ice/ | Jun 20 15:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The OSI’s President Apparently Does Not Know That His Own Employer (Salesforce) Works for ICE | Techrights | Jun 20 15:05 | |
| schestowitz | matter if optics | Jun 20 15:05 |
| schestowitz | *of | Jun 20 15:05 |
| techrights-bot/fn | "...comprised of experts from the national IP offices of the EU"... NONSENSE! #EUIPO lacks experts. They hire FRIENDS, it's #nepotism ! https://www.mondaq.com/uk/trademark/1078578/european-intellectual-property-office-announces-publication-of-cp11-common-practice see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/EUIPO | Jun 20 15:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | European Intellectual Property Office Announces Publication Of CP11 Common Practice - Intellectual Property - European Union | Jun 20 15:07 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EUIPO - Techrights | Jun 20 15:07 | |
| MinceR | both tribes are racist, afaict :> | Jun 20 15:08 |
| XRevan86 | 'tis a sad world | Jun 20 15:08 |
| XRevan86 | People cannot even pick a lesser evil if the third option is not working out for them. | Jun 20 15:08 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: i would not say "Racist" | Jun 20 15:09 |
| schestowitz | I would say this | Jun 20 15:09 |
| schestowitz | (and I wrote about it this morning) | Jun 20 15:09 |
| schestowitz | they seem to care too much about politics and not enough about the software and communities | Jun 20 15:09 |
| schestowitz | they use those people's need for collab tools to exert some pressure | Jun 20 15:09 |
| schestowitz | for fun ("lols", "shits and giggles") and for some personal vendetta | Jun 20 15:10 |
| schestowitz | same people who were freenode staff before the disapora | Jun 20 15:10 |
| immibis | schestowitz: you can't simultaneously say it's okay as long as they're not locked in, and that they must move it to prove they're not locked in | Jun 20 15:10 |
| schestowitz | and they're also in the 4-letter acronym network | Jun 20 15:10 |
| XRevan86 | 1. big bad master; 2. small not as bad master; 3. no master. "hm. we cannot afford to ditch the masters, eh, let's just go with the big bad one" | Jun 20 15:10 |
| immibis | MinceR: some are more racist than others | Jun 20 15:10 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: they went with master Bill Gates | Jun 20 15:10 |
| XRevan86 | this seems to be a common pattern of decision-making | Jun 20 15:10 |
| schestowitz | maybe he'll get them a plane ticket to Marshall Iseland | Jun 20 15:11 |
| schestowitz | he has 4 planes | Jun 20 15:11 |
| XRevan86 | GitLab.com is not perfect, so why bother, amirite? | Jun 20 15:11 |
| schestowitz | not counting Jeff's | Jun 20 15:11 |
| schestowitz | *Island | Jun 20 15:11 |
| XRevan86 | we won't fix any problems if we cannot fix all the problems | Jun 20 15:11 |
| schestowitz | gitlab.com com likely makes export for self-hosting easy | Jun 20 15:11 |
| schestowitz | github is 100% proprietary and centralised | Jun 20 15:12 |
| schestowitz | "NOBODY LEAVES!" | Jun 20 15:12 |
| schestowitz | Not with your full data anyway | Jun 20 15:12 |
| schestowitz | it's what Microsoft wanted codeplex to become | Jun 20 15:12 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: An easy example: Ariadne went from GitHub to self-hosting sourcehut back to GitHub. | Jun 20 15:12 |
| schestowitz | I wonder why FSF is taking so long to make its gitlab Savannah deriv ready for all | Jun 20 15:13 |
| XRevan86 | if the ultimate solution doesn't work out, back out to no solution | Jun 20 15:13 |
| schestowitz | they keep skipping their own self-imposed deadlines | Jun 20 15:13 |
| XRevan86 | it's not a beef with Ariadnе personally, just the nearest example | Jun 20 15:13 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: iirc, Ariadne said she had issues on the admin side of sh | Jun 20 15:13 |
| XRevan86 | I see this time and time again. | Jun 20 15:13 |
| schestowitz | and some people she works with struggled a bit | Jun 20 15:14 |
| schestowitz | sh supports gemini:/// | Jun 20 15:14 |
| schestowitz | we use plain git in techrights | Jun 20 15:14 |
| schestowitz | git pull, commit, push etc. | Jun 20 15:14 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Exactly, no one wants a partial moderate solution. | Jun 20 15:14 |
| schestowitz | it's no harder than svn | Jun 20 15:14 |
| XRevan86 | that doesn't address the problem in fullness | Jun 20 15:15 |
| XRevan86 | so instead people go back to not addressing the problem at all | Jun 20 15:15 |
| schestowitz | well, tough luck | Jun 20 15:15 |
| schestowitz | they will pay dearly | Jun 20 15:15 |
| schestowitz | remember what happened to Google Code | Jun 20 15:15 |
| XRevan86 | "we tried, it didn't work out, back to GitHub for us" | Jun 20 15:15 |
| schestowitz | github will vanish one say | Jun 20 15:16 |
| schestowitz | *day | Jun 20 15:16 |
| schestowitz | or implement terrible changes | Jun 20 15:16 |
| schestowitz | pricing, ui, shutdown... | Jun 20 15:16 |
| schestowitz | maybe block a dozen more countries | Jun 20 15:16 |
| immibis | then you push somewhere else | Jun 20 15:16 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: iirc, you used loadaverage gnu social instance | Jun 20 15:17 |
| immibis | if freenode's collapse starts a self-hosting movement i'm all for it, but you don't have to | Jun 20 15:17 |
| schestowitz | and that's no longer alive | Jun 20 15:17 |
| schestowitz | I was in that situation many times before | Jun 20 15:17 |
| schestowitz | when pleroma.site was shut down I created my own thing in my personal site | Jun 20 15:17 |
| activelow | at leat at it's core git itself is not compromised, which is git itself | Jun 20 15:17 |
| schestowitz | static too, so no maintenance required | Jun 20 15:17 |
| schestowitz | activelow: not yet | Jun 20 15:18 |
| schestowitz | the microsofters try to wrest control of it | Jun 20 15:18 |
| schestowitz | but gitlab won't let them | Jun 20 15:18 |
| schestowitz | enough vigilant people out there, still | Jun 20 15:18 |
| techrights-bot/fn | " #Yew is a really nice framework for writing single-page-applications in Rust, that is then compiled to wasm for running in the browser." https://fy.blackhats.net.au/blog/html/2021/06/20/getting_started_with_yew.html | Jun 20 15:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Peer reports incompatible or unsupported protocol version. ( status 0 @ https://fy.blackhats.net.au/blog/html/2021/06/20/getting_started_with_yew.html ) | Jun 20 15:20 | |
| XRevan86 | immibis: I don't want to rain on that parade. | Jun 20 15:20 |
| techrights-bot/fn | Surface Suspension Protocol Proposed For #Wayland - Phoronix ⚓ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Wayland-Surface-Suspension ䷉ #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux 🐧 | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/20/#latest | Jun 20 15:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Surface Suspension Protocol Proposed For Wayland - Phoronix | Jun 20 15:21 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts | Jun 20 15:21 | |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: but? | Jun 20 15:21 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Looks like the trend is the opposite. | Jun 20 15:22 |
| XRevan86 | Some projects moved to Matrix.org | Jun 20 15:22 |
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| alextee | https://www.lunduke.com/2021/06/vaccine-passport-company-the-linux-foundation-requires-using-their-vaccine-passport-system-for-all-open-source-events/ | Jun 20 15:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Vaccine Passport company, “The Linux Foundation”, requires using their Vaccine Passport system for all Open Source events – The Lunduke Journal of Technology | Jun 20 15:23 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | Web site bribed by #billgates who has been stealing schools for profit at taxpayers' expense (for over a decade) https://www.seattletimes.com/education-lab/let-them-eat-snacks-covid-aside-students-still-need-to-eat-and-drink-in-school/ | Jun 20 15:23 |
| XRevan86 | rasengan diminished IRC's use like no one else. | Jun 20 15:24 |
| MinceR | [citation needed] | Jun 20 15:24 |
| techrights-bot/fn | #seattletimes does not disclose that it has been bribed by #billgates and now it spreads #propaganda for this criminal https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/health/have-gates-foundation-efforts-to-vaccinate-the-world-against-covid-19-helped-or-hindered/ | Jun 20 15:24 |
| techrights-bot/fn | #seattletimes : we take bribe money from #billgates to give a voice to the #gatesfoundation and help it lie to the public. #corruptMedia #propaganda | Jun 20 15:25 |
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| techrights-bot/fn | #billgates -bribed #SeattleTimes Uses #Copyright Law for Censorship, to Defend #SteveBallmer http://techrights.org/2010/11/20/seattle-times-vs-free-speech/ | Jun 20 15:26 |
| techrights-bot/fn | Before #billgates bribes you http://techrights.org/2010/04/25/seattle-times-on-msft-olympia-clout/ | Jun 20 15:27 |
| techrights-bot/fn | 2011: #SeattleTimes Funded by the Gates Foundation to Praise the #GatesFoundation • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2011/08/18/seattle-times-gates-funding/ ䷉ #Techrights | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2011/08/18/seattle-times-gates-funding/ | Jun 20 15:28 |
| techrights-bot/fn | 2011: Funded by #BillGates , the #SeattleTimes Anonymously Lobbies for #GatesFoundation Agenda • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2011/08/27/gates-to-drive-policy/ ䷉ #Techrights | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2011/08/27/gates-to-drive-policy/ | Jun 20 15:29 |
| techrights-bot/fn | tl;dr: so-called 'journalists' who defend #gatesfoundation #plunder are in fact salaried (yes, bribed) by #billgates to do so. #corruptMedia https://www.cjr.org/criticism/gates-foundation-journalism-funding.php | Jun 20 15:30 |
| techrights-bot/fn | Being Superrich Doesn’t Make You a Superhero https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/20/opinion/rich-musk-gates-bezos-comics.html older: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/12/business/jeffrey-epstein-bill-gates.html | Jun 20 15:31 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77 | Jun 20 15:31 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: On what? That some projects ditched IRC altogether or on that rasengan's actions dimished the IRC community like nothing else? | Jun 20 15:33 |
| XRevan86 | * diminished | Jun 20 15:33 |
| techrights-bot/fn | This is a great example of #gnu #linux but NOT #softwarefreedom ... we need to tackle the underlying issues, not just brands https://www.newindianexpress.com/lifestyle/tech/2021/jun/06/chromebook-ready-2311399.html | Jun 20 15:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.newindianexpress.com | Chromebook ready?- The New Indian Express | Jun 20 15:35 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | #Vaccine Passport company, “The Linux Foundation”, requires using their Vaccine Passport system for all Open Source events • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152484 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines http://techrights.org/2021/06/10/lf-mass-surveillance/ | Jun 20 15:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Vaccine Passport company, “The Linux Foundation”, requires using their Vaccine Passport system for all Open Source events | Tux Machines | Jun 20 15:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation is a Foundation of Mass Surveillance | Techrights | Jun 20 15:40 | |
| schestowitz | alextee: thanks | Jun 20 15:40 |
| schestowitz | I deleted him from my rss feeds | Jun 20 15:40 |
| schestowitz | on LF I usually agree with him | Jun 20 15:40 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: that this was a greater drop than the ones that happened earlier | Jun 20 15:40 |
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| alextee | 👍️ | Jun 20 15:40 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: It's the greatest contribution to a drop of one man. | Jun 20 15:41 |
| MinceR | that's not that easy to prove | Jun 20 15:41 |
| techrights-bot/fn | KOL344 | With Adam Terrell of Theocracy: #Copyrights Are Unlawful ⚓ https://www.stephankinsella.com/paf-podcast/kol344-with-adam-terrell-of-theocracy-copyrights-are-unlawful/ ䷉ #stephankinsella | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/20/#latest | Jun 20 15:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.stephankinsella.com | KOL344 | With Adam Terrell of Theocracy: Copyrights Are Unlawful | Jun 20 15:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts | Jun 20 15:44 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: When everyone on the largest network is thrown out of their comfort zone, left with an individual decision about what side to choose, it's not hard to imagine that to some people that's too much. | Jun 20 15:45 |
| techrights-bot/fn | "The two companies are both manufacturers and sellers of agricultural equipment. Mr Jeffrey Claydon, CEO of Claydon, to whom the patents were granted, appeared as a third party to the dispute." http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/06/17/prior-public-disclosure-in-claydon-yield-o-meter-v-mzuri-a-dangerous-precedent/ | Jun 20 15:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | Prior Public Disclosure in Claydon Yield-O-Meter v Mzuri: a Dangerous Precedent - Kluwer Patent Blog | Jun 20 15:46 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | Missed deadlines: where things stand with the #EU #Copyright Directive https://www.managingip.com/article/b1s8ybdtrzp9vn/missed-deadlines-where-things-stand-with-the-eu-copyright-directive | Jun 20 15:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | Missed deadlines: where things stand with the EU Copyright Directive | Managing Intellectual Property | Jun 20 15:47 | |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: like IPFire | Jun 20 15:47 |
| schestowitz | jabber adopted | Jun 20 15:47 |
| schestowitz | some adopted part matrix, part something else | Jun 20 15:47 |
| XRevan86 | The accusations that everyone's actually evil aren't helping it either. | Jun 20 15:48 |
| techrights-bot/fn | Despite all the #billgates scandals and crimes, Bill's bribed 'papers' in the #uk (like #bbc and #guardian 'news') still relay #gatesfoundation propaganda and serve as outlets of his (for-profit)a agenda. Appalling. Does he need to commit a war crimes before they stop this? | Jun 20 15:50 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: and how many people left when some script kiddie (allegedly Nessun) DDoS-sed DALnet? | Jun 20 15:51 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: lots of people left QuakeNet also, for some reason | Jun 20 15:51 |
| techrights-bot/fn | "I got by now that this is pretty common in Gemini space but there are servers, serving generated content (blogs or games or whatever) and so no assumption about how big files are should be made..." https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/006765.html #geminiprotocol #geminispace | Jun 20 15:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | a space case for transparent gemtext compression | Jun 20 15:51 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: I'm not long enough on IRC, and even then IRC is not in as a strong position right now. | Jun 20 15:52 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jun 20 15:52 |
| MinceR | that's why fewer people were around to leave in the first place | Jun 20 15:52 |
| techrights-bot/fn | #Mesa Lands Work Around Async glFlush - Should Help Workstation Performance - Phoronix ⚓ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Async-glFlush-Viewperf-Mesa ䷉ #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux 🐧 | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/20/#latest | Jun 20 15:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mesa Lands Work Around Async glFlush - Should Help Workstation Performance - Phoronix | Jun 20 15:53 | |
| XRevan86 | The rasengan-induced event is the one where people were the most likely to leave for good. | Jun 20 15:53 |
| techrights-bot/fn | Akademy 2021 - Day 2 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152482#comment-30001 | Jun 20 15:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE: Akademy, Kalendar (GSoC 2021) | Tux Machines | Jun 20 15:55 | |
| XRevan86 | I hope they'll find their way back. | Jun 20 15:56 |
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| techrights-bot/fn | "The newest Intel Tiger Lake-powered InfinityBook from Linux laptop company @TUXEDO Computers rocks a 16:10 (YES!), 3K display. Let's unbox it and talk about it." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlIuo-w_eIU paid-for 'review' ("LINUX FOR EVERYONE CONTENT IS MADE POSSIBLE BY A LONG-TERM PARTNERSHIP WITH TUXEDO COMPUTER") | Jun 20 15:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux Laptop Unboxing: TUXEDO InfinityBook Pro 14 - YouTube | Jun 20 15:58 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | Linux 5.13 Lands More Fixes To The Mucked Up FPU/XSTATE Handling Mess - Phoronix ⚓ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-5.13-More-XSTATE-Mess ䷉ #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux 🐧 | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/20/#latest | Jun 20 15:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux 5.13 Lands More Fixes To The Mucked Up FPU/XSTATE Handling Mess - Phoronix | Jun 20 15:59 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | #Apache vs #Nginx : Which Web Server You Should Choose • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152485 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 20 16:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Apache vs Nginx: Which Web Server You Should Choose | Tux Machines | Jun 20 16:03 | |
| XRevan86 | > Apache uses a process-driven approach and creates a new thread for each request. | Jun 20 16:04 |
| *XRevan86 sighs. | Jun 20 16:04 | |
| XRevan86 | So which one is it: process-driven or thread-driven? | Jun 20 16:06 |
| techrights-bot/fn | "I’m one of the Google Summer of Code (GSoC 2021) interns contributing to the GNOME Foundation. And I'm contributing to the libsecret project." https://dnuka.github.io/gsoc21-internship.html can we trust #security from GAFAM (Pemntagon) front that's hosting on #microsoft #ProprietarySofwtare though? | Jun 20 16:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dnuka.github.io | GSoC 21: Contributing to Gnome libsecret | Jun 20 16:07 | |
| MinceR | maybe it also uses a thread-driven approach to create a new process for each request | Jun 20 16:07 |
| XRevan86 | Also mpm_event has a way more complicated approach. | Jun 20 16:07 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: If only that were actually true though. | Jun 20 16:08 |
| techrights-bot/fn | LOL. So #GNOMEFoundation promotes #TPM now... on #IBM payroll with Gulag Summer of Work. How fitting. Not #softwarefreedom at all http://techrights.org/wiki/GNOME_Foundation#Introduction | Jun 20 16:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | GNOME Foundation - Techrights | Jun 20 16:08 | |
| XRevan86 | > require hundreds of heavyweight threads of processes | Jun 20 16:09 |
| XRevan86 | Yea, that's definitely not how Apache httpd works. | Jun 20 16:09 |
| XRevan86 | > Unlike Ngnix, Apache can process dynamic content by embedding a processor of a language like PHP into each of its worker instances. | Jun 20 16:11 |
| XRevan86 | This sentence pains me so much. | Jun 20 16:11 |
| immibis | XRevan86: that sentence is accurate - apache can load a php module and run php inproc, but nginx likes fastcgi better | Jun 20 16:11 |
| XRevan86 | immibis: It can, while degrading back to mpm_prefork. | Jun 20 16:12 |
| XRevan86 | immibis: And then it's not even "hundreds of threads", it's hundreds of separate processes | Jun 20 16:12 |
| XRevan86 | so from Apache httpd being actually better than described here it will be much worse than described | Jun 20 16:12 |
| techrights-bot/fn | This other Gulag Summer of Work project seems more benign than the #TPM one... and it's also not hosted by #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware trap #github https://visveshs.blogspot.com/2021/06/an-update-on-my-gsoc-project.html | Jun 20 16:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-visveshs.blogspot.com | An Update on my GSoC project | Jun 20 16:13 | |
| XRevan86 | immibis: He describes shooting oneself in the foot as a feature Apache httpd has over nginx. | Jun 20 16:15 |
| techrights-bot/fn | #FDA crisis. Protector of the public of rubber-stamping agency now? https://about.bgov.com/news/health-care-briefing-more-time-needed-on-fda-pick-becerra-says/ | Jun 20 16:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-about.bgov.com | HEALTH CARE BRIEFING: More Time Needed on FDA Pick, Becerra Says | Bloomberg Government | Jun 20 16:15 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | Who is destroying #patent systems? These sorts of judges from #Texas , who turned courts into corporations https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/06/albright-unreasonable-egregious.html | Jun 20 16:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | Judge Albright is not "So Unreasonable or Egregious" | Jun 20 16:16 | |
| XRevan86 | While in actuality it's not even as easy to do these days: distros provide php-fpm configuration instead of mod_php these days. | Jun 20 16:17 |
| *CrystalMath (~coderain@hcdzgjg37iuk6.irc) has joined #techrights | Jun 20 16:19 | |
| XRevan86 | So yet another "comparison" that compares common misconceptions with each other. | Jun 20 16:21 |
| alextee | https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Google-Wants-Rust-In-Kernel | Jun 20 16:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Google Wants To See Rust Code In The Linux Kernel, Contracts The Main Developer - Phoronix | Jun 20 16:22 | |
| alextee | hmm | Jun 20 16:22 |
| MinceR | lol @ Gulag Summer of Work | Jun 20 16:23 |
| activelow | not sure yet what "in the kernel" will be, if it is some module or real core components | Jun 20 16:24 |
| psydroid | I want to see the Linux Kernel Contract an Oxygen Infection and Rust | Jun 20 16:24 |
| MinceR | i don't | Jun 20 16:24 |
| alextee | exactly how many "safety issues" have caused problems in linux so far? | Jun 20 16:24 |
| alextee | i don't care if they just allow rust drivers but writing core parts of the kernel in rust is concerning | Jun 20 16:25 |
| activelow | i'll drop linux kernel then | Jun 20 16:25 |
| alextee | i wish hurd received more attention | Jun 20 16:25 |
| activelow | hurd is x86-64 only | Jun 20 16:25 |
| MinceR | would that end their plan to adopt a massive single point of failure? | Jun 20 16:25 |
| alextee | hurd is what you make it, if someone makes it support more archs it will | Jun 20 16:26 |
| psydroid | Couldn't they adopt seL4? | Jun 20 16:26 |
| CrystalMath | MinceR: honestly... suddenly, my friend's license (the Mysoft license) doesn't sound so bad | Jun 20 16:26 |
| activelow | cannot catch up with system integration anymore at least to keep the system running from source, leave alone a tiny hobby project such as implementing a microkernel for multiple architectures | Jun 20 16:27 |
| CrystalMath | it prohibits people from reusing the code in any programming language that supports OOP | Jun 20 16:27 |
| *XRevan86 looks at GObject | Jun 20 16:28 | |
| XRevan86 | oh no, now C is a goner | Jun 20 16:28 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: At least bash is safe, right? | Jun 20 16:28 |
| CrystalMath | ugh :P | Jun 20 16:28 |
| CrystalMath | my friend Mysoft allows C though, he clarified the license specifically | Jun 20 16:29 |
| CrystalMath | C is allowed, freebasic is allowed | Jun 20 16:29 |
| XRevan86 | Ah, so it's not generalised, just "okay, so C is good" | Jun 20 16:29 |
| MinceR | CrystalMath: that's stupid | Jun 20 16:29 |
| CrystalMath | yeah it needs to be better codified | Jun 20 16:29 |
| MinceR | no, it needs to be abandoned | Jun 20 16:30 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: OOP can and is implemented in C at least partially. | Jun 20 16:30 |
| CrystalMath | i have 1 program that work on that is under that license | Jun 20 16:30 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: no it has to be that the *language* supports it | Jun 20 16:30 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: And OOP in Rust and Go is not complete either. | Jun 20 16:30 |
| CrystalMath | then it's forbidden | Jun 20 16:30 |
| MinceR | any language that is not specifically exempted could be later extended to add OOP | Jun 20 16:30 |
| activelow | verifying linux kernel source code with llvm/clang compiler for various inconsistencies is benefitial, rust lang isn't | Jun 20 16:30 |
| MinceR | and suddenly the license would be revoked for other people | Jun 20 16:30 |
| CrystalMath | MinceR: an older version of the language can still be used then :) | Jun 20 16:30 |
| CrystalMath | like C99 is okay | Jun 20 16:31 |
| XRevan86 | GObject works on C89 | Jun 20 16:31 |
| CrystalMath | even though C99 has awesome things like RAII | Jun 20 16:31 |
| MinceR | pretty sure C99 can handle GObject too | Jun 20 16:31 |
| CrystalMath | well not C99... gnu99 | Jun 20 16:31 |
| CrystalMath | gnu99 has RAII without classes :) | Jun 20 16:31 |
| *XRevan86 laughed at that. | Jun 20 16:31 | |
| MinceR | and you can probably write lisp in it, and use something like [Tiny]CLOS on that | Jun 20 16:31 |
| MinceR | if a language is Turing-complete, you can implement Lisp in it | Jun 20 16:32 |
| CrystalMath | MinceR: nah this is not allowed, the program itself cannot be used as a basis to write code that is OOP | Jun 20 16:32 |
| MinceR | so it's just plain proprietary | Jun 20 16:32 |
| MinceR | because there's no language you could reuse the code in | Jun 20 16:32 |
| CrystalMath | however tbh, Mysoft wouldn't even give me a copy of the Mysoft license with that one program, so it's really just used and modified with his permission | Jun 20 16:32 |
| CrystalMath | it's pretty awesome though | Jun 20 16:32 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Um, it's proprietary either way, ye didn't realise that sooner? :> | Jun 20 16:33 |
| MinceR | i did | Jun 20 16:33 |
| CrystalMath | i'm gonna rewrite that program from XCB to libX11 | Jun 20 16:34 |
| CrystalMath | to make it more legacy :) | Jun 20 16:34 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Make sure it compiles on a pre-C89 compiler. | Jun 20 16:34 |
| CrystalMath | good idea too | Jun 20 16:35 |
| MinceR | specifically, K&R | Jun 20 16:35 |
| CrystalMath | yeah, screw new-style function definitions | Jun 20 16:35 |
| XRevan86 | the first published version of C, yes | Jun 20 16:35 |
| activelow | i am not sure yet, linux kernel can benefit from google supporting it can be compiled with llvm/clang (which already was accomplished), rust lang isn't benefitial | Jun 20 16:39 |
| activelow | since GCC is is a hard dependency of the entire free software ecosystem, i am not aware of any distribution which could be compiled without GCC (or clang recently) | Jun 20 16:41 |
| activelow | and i do not feel comfortable with either GCC or clang/llvm | Jun 20 16:41 |
| techrights-bot/fn | #Security Leftovers and Proprietary Software • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152486 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 20 16:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers and Proprietary Software | Tux Machines | Jun 20 16:41 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | #Programming Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152487 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 20 16:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 20 16:42 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX and software • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152488 | Jun 20 16:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos and software | Tux Machines | Jun 20 16:43 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | #Kernel: ENQCMD, Mesa, and Wayland • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152489 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 20 16:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: ENQCMD, Mesa, and Wayland | Tux Machines | Jun 20 16:43 | |
| saint_dogbert/fn | activelow: Gentoo is working on that. Last I heard, ~75% of the stuff in portage could be compiled without GCC | Jun 20 16:43 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: The kernel will truly be free only when it will be compileable with Watcom on DOS. | Jun 20 16:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 20 16:44 | |
| activelow | saint_dogbert: llvm/clang isn't the sultion to the problem either | Jun 20 16:45 |
| activelow | the compiler question is tied to supported platforms, and a compiler remaining self-hosted on any | Jun 20 16:45 |
| saint_dogbert/fn | I'm not sure there is currently any real solution right now | Jun 20 16:45 |
| XRevan86 | OpenWatcom :D | Jun 20 16:45 |
| saint_dogbert/fn | for a few years, I thought Intel C compiler would be a solution until they made their free license even stricter and got caught rigging the game against AMD... again... | Jun 20 16:46 |
| saint_dogbert/fn | that pretty much ended that | Jun 20 16:46 |
| activelow | good point XRevan86, the entire tool and development environment surrounding a programming language and compiler too is critical | Jun 20 16:46 |
| activelow | wouldn't want to depend on eclipse with my work | Jun 20 16:46 |
| activelow | as an example | Jun 20 16:46 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: Uh, I was mocking CrystalMath but sure :) | Jun 20 16:47 |
| CrystalMath | that is correct, but i'm not joking, i'm actually porting the program back to X11 | Jun 20 16:47 |
| XRevan86 | C doesn't have this IDE problem. | Jun 20 16:47 |
| techrights-bot/fn | Links 20/6/2021: Akademy 2021 Underway and Linux Foundation Blasted • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/06/20/akademy-2021-underway/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/20/akademy-2021-underway/ | Jun 20 16:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 20/6/2021: Akademy 2021 Underway and Linux Foundation Blasted | Techrights | Jun 20 16:47 | |
| CrystalMath | it doesn't make a lot of sense from a technical standpoint, but it's fun to do | Jun 20 16:47 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: There's no Xlib on DOS though. | Jun 20 16:48 |
| activelow | anyway, a free and open platform for development had to consider hardware development, including circuit design and software tooling involved to deploy any circuit design | Jun 20 16:48 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: that's because there's no X on DOS :D | Jun 20 16:48 |
| CrystalMath | but what i do for DOS + unix compatibility | Jun 20 16:48 |
| MinceR | well, time to implement X for DOS, then | Jun 20 16:48 |
| CrystalMath | is use XLib *only* to move a pixmap to the screen | Jun 20 16:48 |
| CrystalMath | using a palette | Jun 20 16:48 |
| saint_dogbert/fn | or... switch to OSX ;) | Jun 20 16:48 |
| CrystalMath | that i define manually | Jun 20 16:48 |
| CrystalMath | then i can do VGA and XLib with one code ;) | Jun 20 16:49 |
| CrystalMath | it's just that on VGA, i set the palette in hardware, and for X i set the palette in software | Jun 20 16:49 |
| CrystalMath | the other problem is input | Jun 20 16:49 |
| CrystalMath | IRQ 1 handler vs. XGetEvent() | Jun 20 16:49 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Ye need an abstraction layer. Consider Motif. | Jun 20 16:50 |
| CrystalMath | too large | Jun 20 16:50 |
| CrystalMath | i already wrote this thing for something i wanted to make | Jun 20 16:50 |
| CrystalMath | but then i gave up on making that | Jun 20 16:50 |
| CrystalMath | however... now i'm going to make something else with that system :) | Jun 20 16:50 |
| CrystalMath | it can be compile for DOS or for X :) | Jun 20 16:50 |
| CrystalMath | *compiled | Jun 20 16:50 |
| CrystalMath | very fun | Jun 20 16:50 |
| activelow | if the compiler suite and development tooling is bloated (such as llvm/clang and gcc alike) then such cannot remain self-hosted on limited embedded platforms | Jun 20 16:51 |
| MinceR | lol @ OSX | Jun 20 16:51 |
| CrystalMath | MinceR: yeah, mistyped MSX | Jun 20 16:51 |
| MinceR | sounds nasty | Jun 20 16:51 |
| activelow | meaning gcc, llvm etc do require a powerful workstation hardware or laptop from intel/amd/... | Jun 20 16:51 |
| CrystalMath | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MSX | Jun 20 16:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | MSX - Wikipedia | Jun 20 16:51 | |
| MinceR | oh, there is X for DOS, though it isn't free | Jun 20 16:51 |
| MinceR | http://toastytech.com/guis/dvx.html | Jun 20 16:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-toastytech.com | DESQview/X | Jun 20 16:51 | |
| CrystalMath | MinceR: meh, why use that? | Jun 20 16:52 |
| CrystalMath | i don't need any features from X except "draw the damn pixmap on the screen | Jun 20 16:52 |
| CrystalMath | i do everything UI-related manually | Jun 20 16:52 |
| MinceR | pft | Jun 20 16:52 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: Ye've opened my eyes on the hurdles of compiling compilers on tiny embedded computers. | Jun 20 16:52 |
| activelow | linux kernel did somehow vendor lock-in to specific hardware, since it couldn't be compiled with tinycc/pcc/or similar, the entire free software ecosystem did | Jun 20 16:53 |
| activelow | although free software exists, their "means of production" isn't free, such as hardware development tooling where the horro begins already | Jun 20 16:56 |
| CrystalMath | hmm, okay so my first step will be to get rid of the dependency on xcb-image | Jun 20 16:57 |
| XRevan86 | If only someone made a non-x86 processor that's faster than 80 MHz… | Jun 20 16:57 |
| *immibis should finally finish that cpu project, so he can finally realize it doesn't work for some reason | Jun 20 16:57 | |
| XRevan86 | If only non-x86 SOHO routers existed with Linux on board. | Jun 20 16:58 |
| immibis | XRevan86: they do? | Jun 20 16:58 |
| XRevan86 | immibis: Are ye sure? | Jun 20 16:58 |
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| CrystalMath | MinceR: you know, i could also trivially add win32 support this way | Jun 20 16:58 |
| CrystalMath | windows is even better with its BitBlt() interface | Jun 20 16:58 |
| XRevan86 | immibis: I just heard that Linux's tooling is vendor locked on x86, is that not true? %) | Jun 20 16:58 |
| MinceR | CrystalMath: i don't care about microsoft's crap | Jun 20 16:59 |
| MinceR | MSX, win32, whatever | Jun 20 16:59 |
| CrystalMath | MinceR: yeah but it's super convenient | Jun 20 16:59 |
| MinceR | for microsoft | Jun 20 16:59 |
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| XRevan86 | activelow: People run Gentoo on Raspberry Pi. | Jun 20 17:00 |
| activelow | even when free and open hardware is advertised i would raise the question what software tooling was required for circuit design and deployment, if it is Xilinx/Altera/... then it may not be free | Jun 20 17:00 |
| activelow | XRevan86: raspberry Pi is microsoft/broadcom, won't touch this | Jun 20 17:01 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: It's an example of a single-board computer (not x86, mind you) | Jun 20 17:02 |
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| XRevan86 | hmm… is "you" in "mind you" a subject or an object? | Jun 20 17:04 |
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| activelow | XRevan86: although allwinner and rockchip are suspicious these may be a better choice than rpi, i wouldn't recommend any of it anyway | Jun 20 17:04 |
| activelow | it is interesting btw. on Amazon raspberry is somewhat advertised aggressively by product placement | Jun 20 17:05 |
| XRevan86 | Should be a subject, right? | Jun 20 17:05 |
| activelow | linux isn't directly vendor locked, it is indirectly by various means | Jun 20 17:06 |
| activelow | for example: since ARM embedded didn't suffice for self-hosted gcc or llvm/clang development environment often (changed recently with modern SBCs) developers often use cross-compilers or qemu on their x86 workstations to develop for and deploy to arm | Jun 20 17:09 |
| XRevan86 | Because compiling on weaker machines is fun. | Jun 20 17:09 |
| activelow | problem isn't cross-compilers or qemu, problem is no compiler alternative to gcc or llvm/clang exist which sufficed to compile linux-kernel | Jun 20 17:10 |
| XRevan86 | everyone would've done so if they could | Jun 20 17:10 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: gcc and clang can run there just fine | Jun 20 17:10 |
| XRevan86 | but why, right? | Jun 20 17:10 |
| activelow | XRevan86? | Jun 20 17:11 |
| XRevan86 | Do ye think something like tinycc would do the job faster? | Jun 20 17:11 |
| activelow | last time linux kernel was compiled without gcc (or llvm/clang recently) was linux kernel version 2.6 with tinycc, and this was almost 10years ago | Jun 20 17:11 |
| activelow | XRevan86: yes pcc/tcc and similar are 10x faster | Jun 20 17:11 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: And the result is just as good? | Jun 20 17:11 |
| activelow | couldn't verify yet myself XRevan86, according to some articles and wikipedia the output is sufficiently optimised | Jun 20 17:12 |
| activelow | for C language that is | Jun 20 17:12 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Experimental Reiser5 File-System Patch Updated For Linux 5.12 | Tux Machines | Jun 20 17:13 | |
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| techrights-bot/fn | What You Should Know About Switching to Linux • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152492 | Jun 20 17:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | What You Should Know About Switching to Linux | Tux Machines | Jun 20 17:14 | |
| XRevan86 | activelow: That claim can be sufficiently verified | Jun 20 17:16 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: pcc or tcc? | Jun 20 17:16 |
| XRevan86 | Which one of them has sufficiently optimised output? | Jun 20 17:17 |
| techrights-bot/fn | Take away their #patents https://www.ymf-law.com/post/applicability-of-patent-safe-harbor-to-conduct-supporting-foreign-regulatory-approvals | Jun 20 17:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ymf-law.com | Applicability of Patent Safe Harbor to Conduct Supporting Foreign Regulatory Approvals | Jun 20 17:17 | |
| activelow | XRevan86: with both there was some efforts; OpenBSD tested pcc, and some Linux-related efforts were made with tinycc, 10years ago iitc | Jun 20 17:17 |
| techrights-bot/fn | #GAFAM should just get the hell out of #europe and stop their Orwellian #surveillance agenda http://www.fosspatents.com/2021/06/apple-and-google-are-partly-to-blame.html same for #ibm and #microsoft for that matter. http://www.fosspatents.com/2021/06/apple-and-google-are-partly-to-blame.html | Jun 20 17:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosspatents.com | FOSS Patents: Apple and Google are partly to blame for Europe's problems with hypercontagious Delta variant, should stop putting privacy over human lives and public health | Jun 20 17:19 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | #billgates -bribed #billBC looking for excuses... for why the #patent #cartel of #billandmelindagatesfoundation is NOT solving the issue too well (AZ). | Jun 20 17:21 |
| techrights-bot/fn | Latest on an absurd cases wherein #patents / #monopolies on life and nature are sought as if they're inventions https://www.patentdocs.org/2021/06/broad-opposes-cvcs-motion-to-exclude-evidence-and-cvc-files-reply.html #patent #crispr | Jun 20 17:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patentdocs.org | Patent Docs: Broad Opposes CVC's Motion to Exclude Evidence and CVC Files Reply | Jun 20 17:22 | |
| techrights-bot/fn | Lawsuit after lawsuit. #germany made itself another #texas https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/innovative-foundry-technologies-resolves-infringement-dispute-with-smic-and-initiates-new-patent-litigation-301314816.html | Jun 20 17:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.prnewswire.com | Innovative Foundry Technologies Resolves Infringement Dispute with SMIC and Initiates New Patent Litigation | Jun 20 17:24 | |
| XRevan86 | activelow: I don't want to break your heart | Jun 20 17:26 |
| techrights-bot/fn | Even on a Sunday about 10k more #covid19 cases in the #uk with 39.6% rise in hospitalisations and 12.5% rise in deaths this past week. Not exactly a badge of honour or endorsement for the #patents #cartel of #billgates (AZ). | Jun 20 17:26 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: So some time ago I wrote a Levenshtein distance calculator to see how some compilers perform. | Jun 20 17:27 |
| techrights-bot/fn | Nowadays "medical device" is sometimes just a slant on or a buzzword for algorithms / #swpats https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=9a651888-6f2d-48f8-bca0-7e521c1555ce see http://techrights.org/2019/04/08/software-as-a-medical-device-samd-like-medtech-at-the-epo-just-another-dodge-for-illegitimate-software-patents/ | Jun 20 17:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-'Could versus would' approach to inventive step assessment in medical device case - Lexology | Jun 20 17:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Software as a Medical Device (SaMD) — Like MedTech at the EPO — Just Another Dodge for Illegitimate Software Patents | Techrights | Jun 20 17:29 | |
| XRevan86 | activelow: I just executed the GCC-compiled binary and got 0.834s, tcc did the algorithm in 2.947s | Jun 20 17:29 |
| techrights-bot/fn | So called 'Awards'. Pay us money, we'll reciprocate with propaganda, lobbyying, shallow ads, and fake 'awards' that constitute #marketing for your firm. #corruptMedia https://www.managingip.com/article/b1s9qww56xcm89/mip-asia-pacific-awards-2021-all-the-winners-revealed | Jun 20 17:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | MIP Asia-Pacific Awards 2021: all the winners revealed | Managing Intellectual Property | Jun 20 17:30 | |
| activelow | XRevan86: first) i am referring to tcc/pcc compilation-time performance, which is these finish compilation tasks at the scale of being 10x faster | Jun 20 17:31 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: Who cares about how long it takes to compile when the end-result is inferior? | Jun 20 17:31 |
| techrights-bot/fn | #Trademarks or #Trademark #Law imminently impacted by #uk leaving #eu https://www.worldtrademarkreview.com/brand-management/rule-breaking-influencers-named-ukipo-brexit-deadline-reminder-ice-cube-likeness-claim-dismissed-news-digest goodbye, #EUIPO h http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/EUIPO | Jun 20 17:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.worldtrademarkreview.com | Rule-breaking influencers named: UKIPO Brexit deadline reminder; Ice Cube likeness claim dismissed – news digest | World Trademark Review | Jun 20 17:32 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EUIPO - Techrights | Jun 20 17:32 | |
| activelow | second) i do not know what algorithm you compiled and what the problem was, otherwise tcc/pcc output was shown to be almost on par with gcc | Jun 20 17:32 |
| XRevan86 | Languages with LLVM JIT execute the algorithm faster than tcc. | Jun 20 17:32 |
| activelow | don't doubt that | Jun 20 17:33 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: I can give you all the details if ye want. But I think that they don't really matter with a difference this big. | Jun 20 17:33 |
| activelow | sure it is relevant XRevan86, what the tradeoffs are | Jun 20 17:33 |
| activelow | in any case you won't convince me anymore either gcc or llvm/clang were "free" | Jun 20 17:34 |
| activelow | add to this i would check if an SIMD optimization was involved with yor tests XRevan86 | Jun 20 17:36 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: I don't see any optimisation options in tinycc | Jun 20 17:36 |
| activelow | if there was then your test had shown that SIMD optimisation was superior to none applied, which says little to nothing about the qualities of tinycc since it doesn't do SIMD optimisation to my knowledge | Jun 20 17:37 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: The test tests array and loop optimisations. | Jun 20 17:38 |
| activelow | tinycc doesn't heavily optimise, hence it is more suitable for JIT compilation which was demonstrated with linux 2.6 kernel, to compile that during system boot | Jun 20 17:39 |
| activelow | quickly | Jun 20 17:39 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: Pretty sure that's not the only optimisation that tinycc is lacking. | Jun 20 17:39 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: LLVM can JIT faster. | Jun 20 17:39 |
| activelow | i had seen other bug reports with tinycc too recently | Jun 20 17:40 |
| XRevan86 | JS outperforms this C. | Jun 20 17:40 |
| XRevan86 | Heck, bcc 5.2 in Wine outperforms it. | Jun 20 17:43 |
| activelow | which says little to nothing about the qualities of pcc/tcc | Jun 20 17:44 |
| activelow | besides there is other options than the ones mentioned, and i doubt i would get far with any of them and linux kernel | Jun 20 17:44 |
| activelow | didn't say either gcc or llvm/clang and their optimisations were lacking, i said linux kernel and free software ecosystem locked-in to them, vendor lock-in | Jun 20 17:45 |
| XRevan86 | When it's two compilers instead of one, it's already a big difference. | Jun 20 17:46 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/9a1b26a9 ze code | Jun 20 17:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paste.debian.net | Debian Pastezone | Jun 20 17:51 | |
| activelow | thanks XRevan86, yet i feel i lack competene to discuss your implementation of the algorithm and optimisations applied | Jun 20 17:52 |
| XRevan86 | There's a special version of one bit for GCC, it was just observed to work faster on it. | Jun 20 17:54 |
| activelow | i do notice aggressive optimizations were applied with your scenario (Ofast and lto) | Jun 20 17:54 |
| XRevan86 | The best output there could possible be. | Jun 20 17:55 |
| XRevan86 | gcc -O0 and tcc give very similiar results. | Jun 20 17:56 |
| activelow | besides the optimisations do increase compilation time and compile time memory consumption excessively | Jun 20 17:56 |
| XRevan86 | "excessively" is definitely not the right word here. | Jun 20 17:56 |
| activelow | which i could report a minor story about too, since i utilise some low-power aarch64 SBC here as distcc build nodes, some of which have 1GiB of RAM "only" | Jun 20 17:57 |
| activelow | guess what happens when g++ spawns four compilation threads? OOM. | Jun 20 17:57 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: Consider -O0 | Jun 20 18:01 |
| XRevan86 | should be great %) | Jun 20 18:01 |
| activelow | i considered blacklisting cxx, with gentoo that is use.mask cxx and this problem is gone at least | Jun 20 18:02 |
| activelow | yet with this i had noticed again another lock-in, cxx itself since gcc cannot bootstrap itself without cxx (had to verify again) | Jun 20 18:02 |
| XRevan86 | GCC is written in C++ | Jun 20 18:04 |
| activelow | at least i succeeded already with a bootable system without any cxx involved anymore to proceed with an alternative compiler and removing gcc (or llvm/clang) | Jun 20 18:05 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: gcc -O0 executes faster than tcc for me. | Jun 20 18:05 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: That sure sounds productive. | Jun 20 18:05 |
| *activelow sighs | Jun 20 18:06 | |
| activelow | yes, most of the time is wasted to track dependencies, remove bloatware, which I hope can be mitigated by use.mask cxx some time in the future | Jun 20 18:06 |
| XRevan86 | I sure hope that Open Watcom can satisfy all your C needs. | Jun 20 18:08 |
| immibis | activelow: If the hardware is not assembled from a pile of sand in your garage it's not free | Jun 20 18:12 |
| activelow | immibis: "a pile of sand" isn't the "means of production" for free and open systems | Jun 20 18:13 |
| immibis | no chips are free. None. Literally none. | Jun 20 18:13 |
| immibis | not even free as in libre | Jun 20 18:13 |
| immibis | actually that's not true. But probably no CPUs? | Jun 20 18:13 |
| immibis | maybe nothing newer than a Z80 | Jun 20 18:13 |
| immibis | they all have undocumented stuff | Jun 20 18:14 |
| activelow | some project tried to reverse engineer C64 (moschip iirc), must have been fun too, and productive, there's a talk about it on youtube | Jun 20 18:15 |
| immibis | if you have to reverse-engineer it it's not free | Jun 20 18:19 |
| activelow | concerning free software and vendor lock-in there's more techical issues to discuss, such as involved build systems, system integration | Jun 20 18:25 |
| activelow | long story short anything which directly or indirectly does lock-in rust language will be dropped here | Jun 20 18:25 |
| activelow | anything wich hard locks-in llvm/clang was dropped here already, which means alot of the GPU related support is gone for example (radeon graphics) | Jun 20 18:28 |
| immibis | https://bootstrapping.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page | Jun 20 18:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bootstrapping.miraheze.org | bootstrapping | Jun 20 18:32 | |
| activelow | XRevan86: it is remarkable that bcc (which i hadn't known before) can compete with heavily optimizing clang and gcc | Jun 20 18:35 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: Ye hadn't known about Turbo C++ before? | Jun 20 18:35 |
| XRevan86 | but it is indeed surprising that this old compiler managed to produce an okay result. | Jun 20 18:37 |
| activelow | exceptional even, since the tradeof too is compilation time and memory consumption | Jun 20 18:38 |
| activelow | otherwise I hadn't played with turbo c++ yet, Borland Delphi was common in schools where i had encountered this vendor | Jun 20 18:39 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: It's Embarcadero (Idera) now. | Jun 20 18:48 |
| XRevan86 | This is a compiler from 1997 | Jun 20 18:48 |
| XRevan86 | I just had it lying around, so I checked what it can do. | Jun 20 18:50 |
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| AdmFubar | https://www.zdnet.com/article/nasty-linux-systemd-root-level-security-bug-revealed-and-patched/#ftag=RSSbaffb68 | Jun 20 19:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Nasty Linux systemd root level security bug revealed and patched | ZDNet | Jun 20 19:09 | |
| activelow | what's worse than the backdoor itself is the quality of it, to tap and spy systems by whoever was responsible for this | Jun 20 19:15 |
| AdmFubar | there isn't quality... it is rather hard to exploit | Jun 20 19:16 |
| AdmFubar | https://www.salon.com/2021/06/20/can-democracy-survive-amazon-a-conversation-with-writer-alec-macgillis_partner/ | Jun 20 19:16 |
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| AdmFubar | https://www.salon.com/2021/06/20/one-of-them-has-to-go-the-gop-or-america-as-we-know-it_partner/ | Jun 20 19:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-One of them has to go: The GOP or America as we know it | Salon.com | Jun 20 19:18 | |
| AdmFubar | https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=21/06/18/2322201&from=rss | Jun 20 19:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-soylentnews.org | Backscatter Radio at Gigabit Speeds - SoylentNews | Jun 20 19:49 | |
| AdmFubar | https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=21/06/18/1423237&from=rss | Jun 20 19:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-soylentnews.org | How Russian Threats in the 2000s Turned Estonia into the Go-To Expert on Cyber Defense - SoylentNews | Jun 20 19:51 | |
| immibis | on_retrieved_unix_uid_pid | Jun 20 19:52 |
| immibis | it used to be that you would call get_unix_uid_pid and it would just return what you wanted and not require a callback | Jun 20 19:52 |
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| AdmFubar | https://www.darkreading.com/vulnerabilities---threats/attackers-find-new-way-to-exploit-google-docs-for-phishing-/d/d-id/1341342 | Jun 20 20:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.darkreading.com | Attackers Find New Way to Exploit Google Docs for ... | Jun 20 20:49 | |
| AdmFubar | https://beta.darkreading.com/attacks-breaches/data-breaches-surge-in-food-beverage-other-industries | Jun 20 20:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-beta.darkreading.com | Dark Reading | Security | Protect The Business | Jun 20 20:52 | |
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| AdmFubar | https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-57468750 | Jun 20 21:23 |
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| AdmFubar | https://searchsecurity.techtarget.com/news/252502519/Repeat-ransomware-attacks-hit-80-of-victims-who-paid-ransoms | Jun 20 21:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-searchsecurity.techtarget.com | Repeat ransomware attacks hit 80% of victims who paid ransoms | Jun 20 21:29 | |
| AdmFubar | :)) https://threatpost.com/ransomware-sitting-duck/167040/ | Jun 20 21:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-What’s Making Your Company a Ransomware Sitting Duck | Threatpost | Jun 20 21:30 | |
| AdmFubar | https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/bulletins/sb21-165 | Jun 20 21:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-us-cert.cisa.gov | Vulnerability Summary for the Week of June 7, 2021 | CISA | Jun 20 21:33 | |
| AdmFubar | https://techcrunch.com/2021/06/18/investors-say-eindhoven-poised-to-become-netherlands-no-2-tech-hub/ | Jun 20 21:50 |
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| AdmFubar | this won't last long after google gets into this.. | Jun 20 21:51 |
| AdmFubar | https://techcrunch.com/2021/06/17/spotify-acquires-podz-a-podcast-discovery-app/ | Jun 20 21:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Spotify acquires Podz, a podcast discovery platform – TechCrunch | Jun 20 21:51 | |
| Ariadne | XRevan86: yes, next time i will be using gitlab | Jun 20 21:52 |
| AdmFubar | https://searchsecurity.techtarget.com/news/252502512/Apple-issues-patches-for-two-more-WebKit-zero-days | Jun 20 21:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-searchsecurity.techtarget.com | Apple issues patches for two more WebKit zero-days | Jun 20 21:52 | |
| AdmFubar | https://searchsecurity.techtarget.com/feature/How-to-get-started-with-security-chaos-engineering | Jun 20 21:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-searchsecurity.techtarget.com | How to get started with security chaos engineering | Jun 20 21:56 | |
| AdmFubar | https://therecord.media/norway-says-chinese-group-apt31-is-behind-catastrophic-2018-government-hack/ | Jun 20 22:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-therecord.media | Norway says Chinese group APT31 is behind catastrophic 2018 government hack - The Record by Recorded Future | Jun 20 22:10 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, The entire train ride to Chicago today was dead offices and dead small businesses in the suburbs. | Jun 20 23:04 |
| DaemonFC | Apparently there's five Sears Towers worth of vacant office space in Chicago as of late March and they were expecting it to get much worse by the end of the year even if the lockdown completely ended. | Jun 20 23:05 |
| DaemonFC | They're still building though. | Jun 20 23:05 |
| DaemonFC | Soon there will be 23 million square feet of empty offices, and that's just inside the city. Meanwhile, the Democrats managed to get gas in the city up to $4 a gallon. | Jun 20 23:06 |
| DaemonFC | No wonder everyone is leaving. | Jun 20 23:06 |
| schestowitz | I see... | Jun 20 23:10 |
| DaemonFC | We went to the zoo and even that was pretty sad. | Jun 20 23:11 |
| DaemonFC | That big cat exhibit that's been closed forever is still closed. | Jun 20 23:11 |
| DaemonFC | So, what about the economic boom we're being told of? | Jun 20 23:12 |
| DaemonFC | I didn't see any signs that consumers in Chicago have tons of money, are anxious to spend it, and that there's a lot of options for where to spend it if you want to spend it. | Jun 20 23:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 20 23:13 | |
| DaemonFC | Some restaurants survived, but many are closed with a for lease sign on an empty building. | Jun 20 23:14 |
| schestowitz | they might not survive for long | Jun 20 23:15 |
| schestowitz | when the checks stop coming or savings run dry | Jun 20 23:15 |
| DaemonFC | Relatively speaking, Waukegan has held on better than Chicago or its inner suburbs. | Jun 20 23:15 |
| DaemonFC | I have no idea why. Possibly because it's more of a working class city to begin with. | Jun 20 23:16 |
| DaemonFC | It's the wealthy inner suburbs to the north of the city that appear to have really had their asses handed to them. | Jun 20 23:16 |
| DaemonFC | Some can barely give away storefronts in their "town centers" next to the metra line. | Jun 20 23:17 |
| DaemonFC | That used to be prime real estate. | Jun 20 23:17 |
| DaemonFC | Winnetka, I think it was, looked so bad, that about three things survived. Jewel-Osco, a Walgreens, and Starbucks. 70% or so vacant. | Jun 20 23:18 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Uber and Lyft won't last much longer. | Jun 20 23:25 |
| DaemonFC | They're 2-3x as expensive as a cab is now. | Jun 20 23:26 |
| DaemonFC | I kept flipping between them to get that last 5 miles to the zoo and first Lyft told me there was a "wait and save" option where if I waited 20 minutes instead of 10 I'd save $4, so I was like yeah okay. | Jun 20 23:27 |
| DaemonFC | I waited 30 minutes, nothing came, and I had to cancel it (they reversed the charge). | Jun 20 23:27 |
| DaemonFC | Then Uber was going up and down. It got up as high as $45 and then went down to $28. | Jun 20 23:27 |
| DaemonFC | On the way back, I used the Transit app to find out that taking the 73 CTA bus between the Metra Clybourn stop and the zoo only costs us $2.50 apiece. | Jun 20 23:28 |
| DaemonFC | Well, at least I'll know that next time. | Jun 20 23:28 |
| DaemonFC | Turns out, the news in Chicago interviewed a woman who said she was furious about how expensive Uber has been lately and that she couldn't afford $25 a ride for what had been $12-13. | Jun 20 23:29 |
| DaemonFC | So we're going to be witnessing the end of that bubble shortly. | Jun 20 23:29 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, That's one Chicago tax I really do agree with, and I think RMS proposed it too. | Jun 20 23:30 |
| DaemonFC | Uber and Lyft had been dumping their service in areas with good public transit in order to degrade them. | Jun 20 23:31 |
| DaemonFC | So the city responded by doing a rideshare surcharge. So you fund the CTA when you get on an Uber even if you don't use the CTA. | Jun 20 23:31 |
| DaemonFC | I hate Uber. I mean, counting today my ride history on it has been three rides since I made my account in 2015. | Jun 20 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | I hope they fail and I hope Saudi Arabia loses big on it. | Jun 20 23:33 |
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| DaemonFC | Now that they're more expensive than a taxi _with_ the $1.50 app surcharge from Curb, how are they even a thing? The fact that there were ZERO lyfts around Ogilvie and Union stations today made me laugh. I mean, I was annoyed. | Jun 20 23:35 |
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| DaemonFC | But I think it's obvious they'll go belly up first. Maybe Uber will absorb some of the market and gain some time. | Jun 20 23:35 |
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| DaemonFC | Stallman and I disagree on one thing. The drivers. | Jun 20 23:36 |
| DaemonFC | Some are decent, some are nasty. | Jun 20 23:36 |
| DaemonFC | One of the reasons the apps don't work very well is that drivers figure out ways to game the system so they don't have to work for less money than they want, which is fair enough. It's what happens in a Capitalist system. | Jun 20 23:36 |
| schestowitz | The idea is to drive taxi companies out | Jun 20 23:36 |
| schestowitz | to bankrupt them | Jun 20 23:37 |
| DaemonFC | You want the Uber that bad or you don't. | Jun 20 23:37 |
| schestowitz | and then you have no choice | Jun 20 23:37 |
| schestowitz | they command the price | Jun 20 23:37 |
| schestowitz | and prices soar | Jun 20 23:37 |
| DaemonFC | But the rideshare apps present you with a price and it's in real time and there's no negotiating back and forth with the driver. | Jun 20 23:37 |
| schestowitz | they operate to losses for years, billions in losses from shareholders | Jun 20 23:37 |
| DaemonFC | It just lets them waste your time and cancel on you and shit, and that's that. | Jun 20 23:37 |
| schestowitz | just to kill the competition\ | Jun 20 23:37 |
| activelow | DaemonFC: RMS proposed taxing Uber? | Jun 20 23:38 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah | Jun 20 23:38 |
| activelow | and then a smearing campaign escalated. | Jun 20 23:38 |
| DaemonFC | <schestowitz> they operate to losses for years, billions in losses from shareholders | Jun 20 23:43 |
| DaemonFC | The real insanity is that Uber says they're going to put $250 million into a "stimulus" for drivers. | Jun 20 23:44 |
| DaemonFC | Some of the drivers spoke to the news under anonymity. | Jun 20 23:45 |
| DaemonFC | Concerns in Chicago include COVID still being out there and not enough pay for the odds of being carjacked. | Jun 20 23:45 |
| DaemonFC | They really ought to drive less expensive cars. | Jun 20 23:45 |
| DaemonFC | The one I rode in today was an Infiniti. | Jun 20 23:46 |
| DaemonFC | Carjackers love those. | Jun 20 23:46 |
| DaemonFC | The only thing he could have done to make it worse is drive on the south side, at night, with a big flashing sign that reads "Carjack me!". | Jun 20 23:46 |
| DaemonFC | Reparations all around. mjg59 disliked that. | Jun 20 23:47 |
| DaemonFC | mjg59 is going back to Sanctuary Hills. | Jun 20 23:47 |
| DaemonFC | Oh, schestowitz Chase Bank has been emptying out branch locations in the region I noticed. | Jun 20 23:51 |
| DaemonFC | The signage is still up but the branch is closed permanently. | Jun 20 23:51 |
| DaemonFC | I was one of the first people to use a bank with no branches. | Jun 20 23:51 |
| DaemonFC | As soon as Ally financial emerged from bankruptcy (previously GMAC, a finance arm of General Motors), and while it was still mostly owned by the US Treasury, I set up an account there. | Jun 20 23:52 |
| DaemonFC | I was pissed off by Wells Fargo and their new and outrageous fees just to have a deposit account. | Jun 20 23:52 |
| DaemonFC | Oh, you want an account? $9 a month. You want statements? $3.50. Oh, you overdrew your account by 50 cents? Here's $79 in fees. | Jun 20 23:53 |
| schestowitz | wow, the media became really bad | Jun 20 23:55 |
| schestowitz | I am looking at piles upon piles of puff pieces | Jun 20 23:55 |
| schestowitz | it's frustrating | Jun 20 23:55 |
| schestowitz | it's all for sale | Jun 20 23:55 |
| schestowitz | not even one exception | Jun 20 23:55 |
| schestowitz | it used to be possible to find some real reporting, sometimes... | Jun 20 23:56 |
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