| twitter | The M$ hiring freeze is big news. If the Vista failure was not enough to defeat the M$ Invincibility myth, a shrinking company will be. | Oct 04 18:07 |
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| MinceR | point. | Oct 04 18:07 |
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| twitter | :) | Oct 04 18:17 |
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| MinceR | can't find it | Oct 04 18:18 |
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| MinceR | firehose is such a pain to use | Oct 04 18:18 |
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| twitter | try looking for twitter. | Oct 04 18:31 |
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| twitter | make your threshold black. | Oct 04 18:31 |
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| twitter | the word freeze would also be useful in a search. | Oct 04 18:32 |
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| MinceR | btw, i don't know what all the hype about chrome/chromium's new javascript engine is | Oct 04 18:32 |
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| MinceR | it's not a bit faster than oper | Oct 04 18:32 |
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| MinceR | a | Oct 04 18:32 |
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| MinceR | "twitter freeze" doesn't bring up anything | Oct 04 18:35 |
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| twitter | The "turn this page into an application" looks interesting. | Oct 04 18:35 |
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| MinceR | "twitter submission" shows some hits but none are it | Oct 04 18:35 |
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| MinceR | well, they talked about how uberfast it is going to be and it's not fast at all | Oct 04 18:36 |
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| twitter | I wonder if this is why none of my submissions make it to the front page these days. | Oct 04 18:36 |
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| MinceR | i don't see what are they so proud of. | Oct 04 18:36 |
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| twitter | I submit all of my journal entries. You don't find any of them? | Oct 04 18:36 |
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| MinceR | http://i36.tinypic.com/313gdo6.png | Oct 04 18:37 |
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| MinceR | wait, i think it switched to "Archive" at some point | Oct 04 18:37 |
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| twitter | you should be able to find them by time stamp, http://slashdot.org/~twitter/journal/ | Oct 04 18:38 |
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| twitter | what is archive? | Oct 04 18:38 |
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| twitter | how can you tell? | Oct 04 18:38 |
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| MinceR | i've seen the journal entry, but not on firehose | Oct 04 18:38 |
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| twitter | The time stamp for both should be the same. | Oct 04 18:39 |
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| MinceR | "Archive" is one of the time spans i can select, but that didn't remove most recent entries | Oct 04 18:39 |
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| MinceR | in any case, "twitter submission" doesn't show any entries submitted by you | Oct 04 18:39 |
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| twitter | oh dear. Firehose is broken. | Oct 04 18:39 |
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| twitter | or the journal submission is broken | Oct 04 18:39 |
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| MinceR | "submission freeze" doesn't show it either | Oct 04 18:39 |
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| twitter | I have not been able to see my submissions for a long time, but I thought that was something they did to prevent voting from the same IP address. | Oct 04 18:40 |
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| MinceR | now it brings up http://slashdot.org/firehose.pl?op... | Oct 04 18:40 |
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| twitter | that's not me, it's the cnet feed. | Oct 04 18:41 |
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| twitter | worth voting up, but you can see it's been nuked. | Oct 04 18:42 |
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| MinceR | i know | Oct 04 18:43 |
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| trmanco_ | http://lwn.net/Articles/299483/ | Oct 04 19:13 |
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| schestowitz | BN is still up and down. Going towards 10 GB of traffic in one day. :-O | Oct 04 19:21 |
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| schestowitz | twitter: someone posted a comment in BN claiming to have created an anti-twitter page. | Oct 04 19:23 |
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| trmanco | http://www.groklaw.net/article.php... | Oct 04 19:28 |
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| schestowitz | Thank, trmanco. I do a summary that includes SCO soon. | Oct 04 19:49 |
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| trmanco | :) | Oct 04 19:49 |
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| schestowitz | BN is in the front page of LinuxToday now. It'll be like 11 GB of traffic today. Ouch. | Oct 04 19:51 |
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| trmanco | lol | Oct 04 19:52 |
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| schestowitz | I'm just surprised the server is up at the moment. It's about half a gig per hour. | Oct 04 19:52 |
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| schestowitz | Including PHP, which need RAM and CPU. | Oct 04 19:52 |
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| PetoKraus | let's add to the traffic, eh? | Oct 04 19:53 |
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| schestowitz | There's a sporadic downtime. I get E-mails about it from people... | Oct 04 19:54 |
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| schestowitz | Oh og... | Oct 04 19:55 |
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| schestowitz | Just got this mail: "Get ready with the sever you might be /. http://slashdot.org/firehose.pl?op=vie... Best" | Oct 04 19:55 |
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| schestowitz | We need a torrent. | Oct 04 19:56 |
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| zoobab | or a faster server | Oct 04 19:57 |
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| schestowitz | It's pretty fast. | Oct 04 19:57 |
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| schestowitz | But Digg FP usually takes it down. Almost every time. Then suspended by the host. | Oct 04 19:57 |
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| schestowitz | Just in case, I'll cut down some of the PHP scripts. There should also be some WordPress plugin. | Oct 04 19:58 |
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| PetoKraus | what are those docs about? | Oct 04 19:58 |
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| schestowitz | Which ones? | Oct 04 19:58 |
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| schestowitz | brb. Damn, I'm getting ill. | Oct 04 19:59 |
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| trmanco | I already am (ill) | Oct 04 19:59 |
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| trmanco | I have some sort of flu | Oct 04 19:59 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.deviceguru.com/2008/06/25/surv... | Oct 04 20:02 |
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| AVRS2 | Is it a copyright violation to read the standard? | Oct 04 20:02 |
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| AVRS2 | Torrentless partial solution for load: e.g., Gnutella hash. | Oct 04 20:03 |
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| schestowitz | AVRS2: I doubt it's a violation. | Oct 04 20:07 |
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| AVRS2 | AFAIK, final ISO standards are non-free. | Oct 04 20:07 |
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| AVRS2 | completely | Oct 04 20:07 |
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| twitter | Congratulations on the front page. | Oct 04 20:07 |
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| twitter | there are many anti-twitter pages | Oct 04 20:08 |
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| AVRS2 | twitter: front page of what? | Oct 04 20:08 |
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| twitter | Linux today | Oct 04 20:08 |
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| AVRS2 | ah | Oct 04 20:08 |
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| twitter | I was the subject of a lot of Anti-Slash.org stuff for a while. | Oct 04 20:09 |
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| twitter | The site owner taunted me with it. I don't believe there was ever more than one user of such a stupid site. | Oct 04 20:10 |
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| twitter | It's interesting M$ would waste money smearing me. | Oct 04 20:11 |
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| schestowitz | I might just break the site deadling with 'experimental' stuff on it. | Oct 04 20:11 |
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| schestowitz | I'll make backups. | Oct 04 20:11 |
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| twitter | :) | Oct 04 20:11 |
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| AVRS2 | schestowitz: not on FSDaily? | Oct 04 20:12 |
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| schestowitz | Geez. The server is so slow. | Oct 04 20:12 |
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| schestowitz | http://elliottback.com/wp/archives/... | Oct 04 20:13 |
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| schestowitz | I think I once spoke to Elliot about this in the WordPress mailing lists. | Oct 04 20:13 |
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| schestowitz | Back then we were discussing caching. I used to be very active in WP. | Oct 04 20:14 |
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| AVRS2 | schestowitz: why haven't you submit it to FSDaily? | Oct 04 20:14 |
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| AVRS2 | *submitted | Oct 04 20:14 |
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| AVRS2 | As for copyright… is it not stated in the file? | Oct 04 20:15 |
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| schestowitz | I think it'll bork the software (WP). I already messed about with it too much. | Oct 04 20:16 |
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| schestowitz | AVRS2: thank1 | Oct 04 20:16 |
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| schestowitz | AVRS2: thanks!! | Oct 04 20:16 |
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| schestowitz | AVRS2: for this reason, I sort of stated in the post that the vile behaviour of Microsoft and ISO would make it hypocritical for them to rebuff. | Oct 04 20:18 |
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| AVRS2 | agreed | Oct 04 20:18 |
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| AVRS2 | although it doesn't mean ISO wouldn't do it | Oct 04 20:18 |
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| AVRS2 | (just a unsubstantiated guess) | Oct 04 20:19 |
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| schestowitz | I'll keep that software off my server. It's not worth the risk because I anticipate the issues based on what's in http://elliottback.com/wp/archives/2... . We just need a torrent and I'll optimise the pages slightly to reduce CPU load and DB queries. | Oct 04 20:19 |
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| schestowitz | ISO = Microsoft. | Oct 04 20:19 |
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| AVRS2 | hmm is the final OpenDocument ISO specification public? | Oct 04 20:19 |
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| schestowitz | Yes, I think so. You could grab hold of a copy. | Oct 04 20:20 |
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| schestowitz | BTW, for /. t put it in FP would be weird given the things I've said about them and their associated sites. | Oct 04 20:20 |
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| twitter | It's weird of them to post M$ press releases for the same reasons. | Oct 04 20:21 |
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| twitter | and more | Oct 04 20:21 |
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| twitter | They have not taken any of my submissions over the last six months or so. | Oct 04 20:22 |
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| twitter | The last one they took was on the heals of BN saying Slashdot had sold out. | Oct 04 20:23 |
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| twitter | It was nice to see a link to my Vista Failure Log on the front page :) | Oct 04 20:23 |
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| schestowitz | They need the $$ (Visual Studio ads and all) | Oct 04 20:23 |
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| schestowitz | schestowitz.com made /. FP back in 2005. | Oct 04 20:24 |
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| AVRS2 | fsdaily | Oct 04 20:25 |
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| twitter | It's nice of M$ to pay for all of that. What I don't like is their paid astroturf. | Oct 04 20:25 |
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| *schestowitz can't think of what else to remove without harming page content. | Oct 04 20:25 |
| twitter | What do you mean "remove"? | Oct 04 20:25 |
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| schestowitz | I don't buy the "nice of them" excuse. It's a lie spread by those who accept MS ads. | Oct 04 20:26 |
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| schestowitz | As in, those editors/writers and PUBLISHERS in particular who get money from it. I know this excuse because I spoke to them about it... always the same rubbish excuse. | Oct 04 20:26 |
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| twitter | Are there sarcasm tags in pidgin? | Oct 04 20:27 |
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| schestowitz | I stopped writing for Datamation because they started MS ads. LinuxTOday is back with these as well... Brian told me he was relieved to be out of that MS ads gig. | Oct 04 20:27 |
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| schestowitz | twitter: I'm cutting down bits of the page. Though my main issue are the downloads. ./ effects alone isn't enough of a load. It's Digg that's a killer with like 20,000 visits within hours. | Oct 04 20:28 |
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| schestowitz | I saw Groklaw choking just once. | Oct 04 20:28 |
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| schestowitz | It was when SCO declared bankrupcy. The whole CMS went titsup, so maybe they had to restore from backup. PJ was so happy she hardly cared. | Oct 04 20:29 |
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| twitter | There's nothing nice about M$ but I can see taking their money like anyone else's, as long as editors are not aware/motivated by it. | Oct 04 20:29 |
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| twitter | I like the way the FSF site works. | Oct 04 20:29 |
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| MinceR | the problem is that they display m$ ads in exchange | Oct 04 20:30 |
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| MinceR | which might influence the minds of visitors | Oct 04 20:30 |
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| MinceR | how does the FSF site work? | Oct 04 20:30 |
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| MinceR | and in any case, i don't think m$ deserves any exposure other than revealing their dirty dealings and the shoddy quality of their products and services | Oct 04 20:31 |
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| twitter | Style wise, they have almost no images, free flowing text, it's really minimal. | Oct 04 20:31 |
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| twitter | Don't know how it technically works. | Oct 04 20:31 |
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| MinceR | i thought you were talking about ads :) | Oct 04 20:31 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: all those ads are harmful. | Oct 04 20:32 |
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| schestowitz | Shane is still trying to block them all. We already blocked some sites like novell.com and microsoft.com, but all their partners still show up in the ads. | Oct 04 20:32 |
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| twitter | What does google have to say about this? Do they have a group of "ethical advertisers"? | Oct 04 20:35 |
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| MinceR | google know nothing about ethics | Oct 04 20:36 |
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| MinceR | s/w/ws/ | Oct 04 20:37 |
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| schestowitz | They are inflexible. I don't know about BN (shane does the AdSense to pay hosting), but in schestowitz.com it's pretty bad with just under the hosting bill covered. | Oct 04 20:37 |
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| twitter | Here are some suggestions for stories to reduce bandwith. It would require a new style but I think it would help to get rid of all the front page frame stuff. | Oct 04 20:41 |
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| schestowitz | The issue is the downloads though. The main one anyway.. | Oct 04 20:42 |
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| schestowitz | I can set up a server on my box, I guess. Let me see... | Oct 04 20:43 |
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| twitter | I'd nuke the banner, everything on the right especially images not directly related to the story. | Oct 04 20:43 |
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| twitter | I see your point about downloads though. | Oct 04 20:43 |
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| twitter | My home server has been under a form of attack for a long time. | Oct 04 20:44 |
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| schestowitz | I can serve it from my box at the office.. | Oct 04 20:44 |
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| twitter | A never ending stream of bot clients have been downloading the largest files I serve. | Oct 04 20:44 |
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| schestowitz | But then I permit ISOsoft to use claims against the academic institution serving leaked specs. | Oct 04 20:44 |
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| twitter | These are files no human being would ever be interested in. | Oct 04 20:45 |
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| MinceR | why are they served then? :> | Oct 04 20:45 |
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| schestowitz | The Microsoft Munchkins tried this before. They harrassed the network managers to prevent even /messages/ (Linux advocacy) being posted. | Oct 04 20:45 |
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| twitter | I was interested in them. | Oct 04 20:45 |
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| MinceR | from that follows that you're not a human being :> | Oct 04 20:46 |
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| schestowitz | Let me see d/l speeds on the box at the office. | Oct 04 20:46 |
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| twitter | Finishing my thesis improved that. Sleep makes a person nicer. | Oct 04 20:46 |
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| schestowitz | OK, transferring. | Oct 04 20:48 |
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| schestowitz | In progress: http://baine.smb.man.ac.uk:8001/ooxml | Oct 04 20:48 |
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| twitter | That was quick. Good luck with the admins. | Oct 04 20:48 |
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| twitter | The network at my local university has been locked up hard. They claimed central control over everything and the ability to boot machines off at will. | Oct 04 20:49 |
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| twitter | Every machine owner must be identified before a machine is put on the network. It's all very nasty now. | Oct 04 20:50 |
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| twitter | Clueless copyright warriors are all over the Board of Directors, they listen to RIAA, M$ and other assholes. | Oct 04 20:51 |
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| twitter | One good thing is the control demanded over Winblows computers makes a great case for free software. They demand all winblows computers be centrally controlled for "emergency" patching. | Oct 04 20:53 |
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| schestowitz | Updated: http://boycottnovell.com/2008/1... | Oct 04 20:54 |
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| schestowitz | [Note #2: we now have a mirror listed at the bottom.] | Oct 04 20:54 |
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| zoobab | you can use lighttpd | Oct 04 20:54 |
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| zoobab | it resists to any /. | Oct 04 20:55 |
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| schestowitz | I can't test my mirror for speed because I'm on the same network (>1000KB/sec). What do you guys get? | Oct 04 20:55 |
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| schestowitz | http://baine.smb.man.ac.uk:8001/ooxml | Oct 04 20:55 |
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| schestowitz | zoobab: denial of service is no resistance. It's a loss of visitor... | Oct 04 20:56 |
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| twitter | U | Oct 04 20:56 |
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| twitter | US cable networks are all crimped at 60KB/s upload. | Oct 04 20:56 |
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| twitter | @home had no such limits. | Oct 04 20:56 |
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| zoobab | I get 350ko/sec from a well connected machine | Oct 04 20:56 |
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| schestowitz | That's excellent. | Oct 04 20:57 |
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| schestowitz | 60 megs in 3 minutes. | Oct 04 20:57 |
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| schestowitz | Running on a dual-head Ubuntu box. | Oct 04 20:57 |
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| zoobab | 385.64K/s | Oct 04 20:57 |
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| trmanco | 100KB/S here | Oct 04 20:58 |
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| trmanco | erhm | Oct 04 20:58 |
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| trmanco | 400KB/s | Oct 04 20:58 |
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| schestowitz | Let me see if I can grab a network monitor on it via SSH. | Oct 04 20:58 |
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| schestowitz | ksysguard | Oct 04 20:59 |
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| schestowitz | Hmmm... no network meter. zoobab what's KDE got? I have the panel one, but can't easily get to it from here. | Oct 04 21:00 |
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| schestowitz | I used to run php-shell ( a hack) to get uptime and average load off my host of schestowitz.com and other domains. Won't do for BN. | Oct 04 21:00 |
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| MinceR | strange, my ksysguard does have a network meter | Oct 04 21:02 |
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| MinceR | well, maybe not over ssh | Oct 04 21:02 |
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| zoobab | I use wget | Oct 04 21:04 |
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| zoobab | let me try links | Oct 04 21:04 |
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| zoobab | 392 KiB/s | Oct 04 21:05 |
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| zoobab | it seems to saturate at 385kb/sec | Oct 04 21:05 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: how do you get to it? | Oct 04 21:05 |
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| schestowitz | I must be missing t. It's vanilla KDE 3.5 | Oct 04 21:05 |
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| MinceR | localhost/Network | Oct 04 21:06 |
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| MinceR | (there i'd choose Interfaces) | Oct 04 21:06 |
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| schestowitz | It give no meters | Oct 04 21:06 |
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| schestowitz | *gives | Oct 04 21:06 |
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| MinceR | there are a lot of meters here in localhost/Network/Interfaces/eth0/Receiver and Transmitter | Oct 04 21:06 |
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| schestowitz | it's just a "sensor browser" | Oct 04 21:07 |
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| schestowitz | I went to University with the maintainer of KSysGuard BTW. We were sort of friends... | Oct 04 21:07 |
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| schestowitz | John Tapsell | Oct 04 21:07 |
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| MinceR | well, it's strange though | Oct 04 21:07 |
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| trmanco | yay | Oct 04 21:08 |
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| MinceR | it says it's receiving "0" Data on eth0 | Oct 04 21:08 |
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| trmanco | I can convert that 5000 page pdf into html | Oct 04 21:08 |
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| schestowitz | trmanco: please do. | Oct 04 21:08 |
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| trmanco | ok | Oct 04 21:08 |
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| MinceR | it seems pretty broken | Oct 04 21:08 |
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| schestowitz | That'll make an attractive thing for people to browse. | Oct 04 21:08 |
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| trmanco | I'm doind it right now Ill see how it looks when its finished | Oct 04 21:08 |
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| trmanco | done | Oct 04 21:10 |
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| trmanco | 14 meg file | Oct 04 21:10 |
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| schestowitz | A _single_ html? The horror... | Oct 04 21:14 |
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| schestowitz | Sounds like a stress test for Web browser... | Oct 04 21:14 |
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| trmanco | yes | Oct 04 21:16 |
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| trmanco | with a frame | Oct 04 21:16 |
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| trmanco | but I'm generating a new one with some different options | Oct 04 21:16 |
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| schestowitz | They also have a new event planned for World's Strongest Man 2009. They'll find out who can carry the most volumes of OOXML. Legends say that no man was ever able to lift the monster. Some people tried, but OOXML broke their back. OOXML had them hospitalised for good. Good grief! What has ISO wrought? | Oct 04 21:16 |
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| MinceR | lol | Oct 04 21:17 |
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| MinceR | when will microsoft formally acknowledge their merger with ISO and rename it to Microsoft ISO or ISO Live? | Oct 04 21:18 |
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| zoobab | misosoft | Oct 04 21:19 |
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| schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com/wp-content... | Oct 04 21:19 |
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| MinceR | nice | Oct 04 21:20 |
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| trmanco | gee | Oct 04 21:20 |
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| trmanco | this last conversion is taking for ever | Oct 04 21:20 |
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| MinceR | http://boycottnovell.com/wp-conte... | Oct 04 21:21 |
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| schestowitz | trmanco: do you want FTP to push this to? | Oct 04 21:21 |
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| schestowitz | My FTP on my site is disabled by the host, but if it's not over 100MB, E-mail might work. | Oct 04 21:21 |
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| schestowitz | Having this in an immediately-browsable form would be mint. | Oct 04 21:22 |
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| trmanco | sure | Oct 04 21:22 |
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| trmanco | but can't do anything yet | Oct 04 21:22 |
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| trmanco | the conversions is still not finished | Oct 04 21:22 |
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| schestowitz | trmanco: updates from Portugal: http://boycottnovell.com/2008/10/03/nat... | Oct 04 21:23 |
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| trmanco | this last one with a special flag is taking forever | Oct 04 21:23 |
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| trmanco | thanks | Oct 04 21:24 |
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| twitter | you just got slashdotted http://news.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=... | Oct 04 21:32 |
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| twitter | :) | Oct 04 21:32 |
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| twitter | Dustin Puryear of the BRLUG said that Slashdotting did not really up BRLUG mail list traffic. | Oct 04 21:33 |
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| zoobab | you are on /. now! | Oct 04 21:33 |
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| trmanco | cool | Oct 04 21:36 |
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| trmanco | well | Oct 04 21:36 |
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| trmanco | I have one in plain html | Oct 04 21:36 |
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| trmanco | and my other conversion is in html with png images from the pdf | Oct 04 21:36 |
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| trmanco | but you can barely read the on with png images | Oct 04 21:37 |
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| schestowitz | Shit. | Oct 04 21:38 |
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| schestowitz | That's why it's slow. | Oct 04 21:38 |
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| schestowitz | trmanco: can you mail it to me? r at schestowitz dot com | Oct 04 21:39 |
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| trmanco | sure | Oct 04 21:39 |
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| trmanco | whic one tho | Oct 04 21:39 |
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| schestowitz | brb | Oct 04 21:40 |
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| schestowitz | r at or s at | Oct 04 21:40 |
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| AVRS2 | http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?... : “OK we slashdot their servers. Now what?” | Oct 04 21:41 |
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| zoobab | Roy, you don't have FTP, mirror is easy that way | Oct 04 21:42 |
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| zoobab | lftp> mirror -p | Oct 04 21:42 |
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| AVRS2 | Was ODF not a SIS standard in Sweden already? | Oct 04 21:43 |
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| zoobab | maybe | Oct 04 21:43 |
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| schestowitz | if it gets too slow I'll just set a redirect from the page to the mirror. | Oct 04 21:44 |
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| AVRS2 | Some sites say ODF Alliance reported last week that it's been approved by SIS. | Oct 04 21:44 |
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| trmanco | schestowitz, what version do you want? | Oct 04 21:44 |
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| trmanco | the plain html one? | Oct 04 21:44 |
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| schestowitz | AVRS2: I think it has. | Oct 04 21:44 |
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| schestowitz | Whichever works best. | Oct 04 21:45 |
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| trmanco | because the png on is hard to read | Oct 04 21:45 |
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| trmanco | one* | Oct 04 21:45 |
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| schestowitz | Are pngs the equations? | Oct 04 21:45 |
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| trmanco | ? | Oct 04 21:46 |
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| trmanco | cool | Oct 04 21:52 |
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| trmanco | I can send both of them to you :P | Oct 04 21:52 |
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| schestowitz | Thanks. | Oct 04 21:53 |
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| trmanco | 1st one is a 2 meg archive the other one has 16 | Oct 04 21:53 |
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| schestowitz | Thnaks. | Oct 04 21:54 |
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| trmanco | r at right? | Oct 04 21:57 |
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| trmanco | schestowitz, | Oct 04 21:59 |
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| schestowitz | yes. at my domain. | Oct 04 21:59 |
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| trmanco | ok | Oct 04 21:59 |
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| trmanco | uploading | Oct 04 22:01 |
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| trmanco | schestowitz, sent | Oct 04 22:17 |
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| schestowitz | The Slashdot effect is very unimpressive compared to Digg, but maybe just because it's Sat. | Oct 04 22:21 |
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| schestowitz | Got it. | Oct 04 22:22 |
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| trmanco | :-) | Oct 04 22:22 |
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| schestowitz | What da...? :-) | Oct 04 22:23 |
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| schestowitz | 11000 files | Oct 04 22:23 |
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| trmanco | yes | Oct 04 22:24 |
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| trmanco | png's | Oct 04 22:24 |
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| schestowitz | I'll just upload the PNGs when the 'DDOS' is over. | Oct 04 22:24 |
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| trmanco | the 2mb on only has 3 | Oct 04 22:24 |
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| trmanco | pngs+html files* | Oct 04 22:24 |
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| schestowitz | Firefox screams for air | Oct 04 22:26 |
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| trmanco | yes | Oct 04 22:27 |
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| trmanco | its huge | Oct 04 22:27 |
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| zoobab | and it is not the main link in the article | Oct 04 22:31 |
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| schestowitz | trmanco: updated: http://boycottnovell.com/20... | Oct 04 22:33 |
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| schestowitz | "we now have an HTML version of the core of OOXML, but please use this mirror (HTML), which should be faster." | Oct 04 22:33 |
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| schestowitz | zoobab: should I link to the HTML at the top? | Oct 04 22:34 |
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| trmanco | cool :) | Oct 04 22:35 |
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| trmanco | lol | Oct 04 22:35 |
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| trmanco | the title should be changed | Oct 04 22:36 |
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| trmanco | lol | Oct 04 22:36 |
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| schestowitz | I added somethng to the top | Oct 04 22:36 |
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| schestowitz | To diver people away from BN and into the mirror. | Oct 04 22:36 |
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| schestowitz | *divert | Oct 04 22:36 |
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| trmanco | the title of the html version of the odf :P | Oct 04 22:36 |
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| schestowitz | "readers have produced this <a href="http://baine.smb.man.ac.uk:8001...">HTML version</a> of the core of OOXML, so that you can access the specs quickly." | Oct 04 22:37 |
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| schestowitz | trmanco: can I attribute this to you (full name)? | Oct 04 22:37 |
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| trmanco | sure | Oct 04 22:37 |
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| trmanco | Tony Manco | Oct 04 22:37 |
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| schestowitz | You got a homepage for a link? | Oct 04 22:38 |
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| trmanco | sure | Oct 04 22:39 |
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| trmanco | open-mania.com | Oct 04 22:39 |
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| schestowitz | Kool. | Oct 04 22:39 |
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| trmanco | it is related | Oct 04 22:39 |
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| schestowitz | Check the link now. | Oct 04 22:39 |
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| trmanco | :-) | Oct 04 22:40 |
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| trmanco | koool | Oct 04 22:40 |
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| trmanco | but the mirror doesn't load anymore :| | Oct 04 22:40 |
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| schestowitz | Ick. My mirror is down | Oct 04 22:40 |
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| schestowitz | You beat me to it. | Oct 04 22:40 |
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| trmanco | schestowitz, and if you don't mind, can you change the <title></title> of the index file to something different | Oct 04 22:41 |
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| schestowitz | roy@baine:~$ uptime | Oct 04 22:41 |
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| schestowitz | 23:29:27 up 30 days, 11:57, 2 users, load average: 0.08, 0.25, 0.26 | Oct 04 22:41 |
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| trmanco | 30 days thats good | Oct 04 22:41 |
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| trmanco | 23:54:43 up 202 days, 12:53, 8 users, load average: 11.02, 12.74, 11.54 | Oct 04 22:42 |
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| trmanco | not my computer | Oct 04 22:42 |
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| trmanco | just a shell server running centOS | Oct 04 22:42 |
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| twitter | I only have 23 days, but that's because a hurricane blew out my power. | Oct 04 22:42 |
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| twitter | Laptops stayed up, ha ha. | Oct 04 22:43 |
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| schestowitz | :-( | Oct 04 22:43 |
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| trmanco | :P | Oct 04 22:43 |
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| schestowitz | We need another mirror. | Oct 04 22:43 |
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| trmanco | :| | Oct 04 22:43 |
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| schestowitz | If I link to BN, it could fall. 13 MB HTML... | Oct 04 22:43 |
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| twitter | that corral cache thing? | Oct 04 22:44 |
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| schestowitz | I'd rather not.. | Oct 04 22:45 |
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| schestowitz | The connection on that server is still fine. | Oct 04 22:45 |
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| schestowitz | It's as though something blocked HTTP due to high load. | Oct 04 22:46 |
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| trmanco | free hosting time | Oct 04 22:50 |
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| trmanco | I could try and mirror it but my host probably won't last too long | Oct 04 22:51 |
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| twitter | your admins are watching? | Oct 04 22:51 |
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| schestowitz | We can try | Oct 04 22:51 |
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| schestowitz | twitter: doubtful, but maybe it's automated. | Oct 04 22:51 |
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| trmanco | try to mirror* | Oct 04 22:51 |
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| schestowitz | Say 1000 people an hour click this link... | Oct 04 22:51 |
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| schestowitz | That's 13 gigs per hour. | Oct 04 22:51 |
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| schestowitz | This is a 100MBit Ethernet, but practically it's less. | Oct 04 22:52 |
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| schestowitz | The Manchester Computing backbone (or JANET) is 2GBit, IIRC. Maybe it's expanded now. | Oct 04 22:52 |
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| trmanco | wait | Oct 04 22:53 |
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| trmanco | I got the solution | Oct 04 22:53 |
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| twitter | They were watching me if the M$ smear team did the same thing to me that it did to you. People knew who I was before I walked in. You are lucky that people told you about what happened. | Oct 04 22:53 |
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| trmanco | my isp can mirror it | Oct 04 22:53 |
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| schestowitz | AVRS2 has it on gnutella. | Oct 04 22:53 |
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| AVRS2 | Why not torrent, though? | Oct 04 23:00 |
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| schestowitz | I could put copies on schestowitz.com and risk taking /that/ down. | Oct 04 23:00 |
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| AVRS2 | Who knows how to publish torrents? | Oct 04 23:00 |
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| schestowitz | Oh, I know! | Oct 04 23:01 |
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| schestowitz | I have one site whose uptime I can little about | Oct 04 23:02 |
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| schestowitz | BSD-based. | Oct 04 23:02 |
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| trmanco | my isp isn't helping | Oct 04 23:02 |
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| MinceR | guardian% uptime | Oct 04 23:05 |
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| MinceR | 01:09:22 up 268 days, 10:14, 12 users, load average: 0.27, 0.17, 0.18 | Oct 04 23:05 |
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| MinceR | that's my NAT box/home server :) | Oct 04 23:05 |
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| trmanco | uploading | Oct 04 23:06 |
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| schestowitz | OK | Oct 04 23:08 |
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| schestowitz | Another update: I made another mirror | Oct 04 23:08 |
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| schestowitz | "Update #4 (04/10/2008): the first mirror was downed by the load (thousands of OOXML pages combined with the Slashdot effect can do that), so here is a second mirror. If it’s down as well, come back later when there’s less hammering on the servers." | Oct 04 23:08 |
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| zoobab | Roy you have adds for Statoil, they were pro-OOXML | Oct 04 23:09 |
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| schestowitz | I wonder if it'll exceed 20 GB bandwidth on BN alone (not including mirrors) | Oct 04 23:09 |
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| schestowitz | zoobab: it's almost impossible to block them one by one. | Oct 04 23:09 |
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| schestowitz | We already block several known 'antis' | Oct 04 23:10 |
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| twitter | reading http://www.howto.com.my/2008/internet/h... | Oct 04 23:10 |
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| AVRS2 | twitter: I think KTorrent supports publishing | Oct 04 23:11 |
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| trmanco | schestowitz, http://trmanco.110mb.com/ | Oct 04 23:12 |
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| trmanco | lol | Oct 04 23:12 |
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| schestowitz | The second mirror is still up | Oct 04 23:12 |
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| AVRS2 | But probably they all do… the important thing is to find a tracker. | Oct 04 23:12 |
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| trmanco | I don't know how long that free hosting is going to stay up but I have plenty of traffic | Oct 04 23:12 |
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| schestowitz | <AVRS2> <li><a href="/uri-res/N2R?u rn:sha1:DI66L7K5X67AODO5ZQCQFFOT4BTPPM IK">Microsoft Office Open XML (OOXML) specification pre-IS/OfficeO penXML-RELAXNG-Strict.zip</a> [93.33& amp;nbsp;KiB]</li> | Oct 04 23:13 |
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| schestowitz | <AVRS2> <li><a href="/uri-res/N2R?urn: sha1:3BCIPRBMEFWJWV6ETUQ4KNC ZABVC4Q53">Microsoft Office Open XML (OOXML) specification pre-IS/OfficeOpenXML-Sprea dsheetMLStyles.zip</a>&a mp;nbsp;[81.81 K iB]</li> | Oct 04 23:13 |
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| schestowitz | <AVRS2> <li><a href="/uri-res/N2R?urn:sha1 :KHWQ62GVCBLHHWYU5BH6GV2 767WG2ULN">Microsoft Office Open XML (OOXML) specification pre-IS/OfficeOpenXML-XM LSchema-Strict.zip</a> [163.89 KiB]</li> | Oct 04 23:13 |
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| schestowitz | <AVRS2> <li><a href="/uri-res/N2R?urn:sha1:CLHTKY B5AMXBBR36XTFHDSRW4G USGLVU">Microsoft Office Open XML (OOXML) specification pre-IS/OpenPackaging Conventions-RELAXNG.zip</a>& nbsp;[2.50 KiB]</li> | Oct 04 23:13 |
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| schestowitz | <AVRS2> | Oct 04 23:13 |
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| schestowitz | <AVRS2> <li><a href="/uri-res/N2R?u rn:sha1:3A25EBKJ5GW3RYS5YHPA54DGK 5ODJA54">Microsoft Office Open XML (OOXML) specification pre-IS/OpenPackaging Conventions-XMLSchema.zip </a> [3.63 KiB]</li> | Oct 04 23:13 |
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| schestowitz | <AVRS2> <li><a href="/uri-res/N2R?urn:sha1:B XV2GGINSSR5P UDQ7IM2GGP7Z5PNV 5UK">Microsoft Office Open XML (OOXML) specification pre-IS/1081.pdf</a>& nbsp;[1.60& nbsp;MiB]</li> | Oct 04 23:13 |
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| schestowitz | <AVRS2> <li><a href="/uri-res/N2R?urn:sha1:KW KSTBYGPWY7GIAG3QERHGI KGTEIYH3U">Microsoft Office Open XML (OOXML) specification pre-IS/1082.pdf</a> [839.08 KiB]</li> | Oct 04 23:13 |
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| schestowitz | <AVRS2> <li><a href="/uri-res/N2R?urn:sha 1:MQCIT7JEK6JIG4Q2UQWAIB3 LJHRV5III">Microsoft Office Open XML (OOXML) specification pre-IS/OfficeOpenXML-REL AXNG-Transitional.zip</a>& nbsp;[104.52 KiB]</li> | Oct 04 23:13 |
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| schestowitz | <AVRS2> <li><a href="/uri-res/N2R?urn:sha1: CAFIMLX375NCTNXEWVGCJBQBB4I7 UZAG">Microsoft Office Open XML (OOXML) specification pre-IS/OfficeOpenXML-XMLSch ema-Transitional.zip</a> [183.97 KiB]</li> | Oct 04 23:13 |
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| schestowitz | <AVRS2> | Oct 04 23:13 |
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| schestowitz | <AVRS2> <li><a href="/uri-res/N2R?urn:sha1:3Q E4KSD72S2J2WCJJODUOSP67SX FLKCB">Microsoft Office Open XML (OOXML) specification pre-IS/1083.pdf</a > [9.63 MiB]</li> | Oct 04 23:13 |
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| schestowitz | <AVRS2> <li><a href="/uri-res/N2R?urn:sha1:SOXBN UZQ2EOQ4RX6PIGWSNCWDREWBTB 6">Microsoft Office Open XML (OOXML | Oct 04 23:13 |
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| schestowitz | urn:sha1:SOXBNUZQ2EOQ4RX6PI GWSNCWDREWBTB6 may be a Gnutella hash for 1080.pdf | Oct 04 23:14 |
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| AVRS2 | that last one is included somewhere in the ones full of HTML. | Oct 04 23:16 |
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| schestowitz | Yes, sorry about that. | Oct 04 23:17 |
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| *schestowitz was hasty | Oct 04 23:17 |
| schestowitz | BTW, the second mirror is still up and running (BSD) | Oct 04 23:17 |
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| trmanco | schestowitz, not found | Oct 04 23:17 |
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| PetoKraus | hmm | Oct 04 23:18 |
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| schestowitz | Which one? | Oct 04 23:18 |
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| PetoKraus | where? | Oct 04 23:18 |
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| trmanco | http://boycottnovell.com/2008/... | Oct 04 23:18 |
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| schestowitz | danielsorogon? | Oct 04 23:18 |
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| PetoKraus | o.O | Oct 04 23:18 |
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| AVRS2 | not found | Oct 04 23:18 |
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| PetoKraus | i'll mirror as well, if you need to | Oct 04 23:19 |
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| PetoKraus | should have couple gigs of bandwith.... | Oct 04 23:19 |
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| AVRS2 | Why is it not found? The server didn't seem slow to me. | Oct 04 23:19 |
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| schestowitz | AVRS2: bn is down?? | Oct 04 23:19 |
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| schestowitz | Worked for me a minute ago | Oct 04 23:20 |
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| AVRS2 | schestowitz: no, only the post was removed! | Oct 04 23:20 |
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| schestowitz | Oh FUCK | Oct 04 23:20 |
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| PetoKraus | :D | Oct 04 23:20 |
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| schestowitz | I made it private due to WP bug | Oct 04 23:20 |
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| schestowitz | Fixed now. | Oct 04 23:20 |
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| AVRS2 | heh | Oct 04 23:20 |
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| trmanco | yes fixed | Oct 04 23:20 |
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| PetoKraus | right so, what bunch of files you need to host? | Oct 04 23:21 |
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| trmanco | schestowitz, is you need another mirror -> http://trmanco.110mb.com/ | Oct 04 23:21 |
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| schestowitz | Probably been like this since 10 minutes ago | Oct 04 23:21 |
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| trmanco | I know it look kinda stupid (the link) but it will remove some load while it remains online | Oct 04 23:21 |
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| trmanco | looks* | Oct 04 23:22 |
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| PetoKraus | hehe | Oct 04 23:23 |
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| PetoKraus | what are all those different files (1080 - 83)? | Oct 04 23:24 |
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| schestowitz | Updatedx5: have added the new mirror | Oct 04 23:24 |
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| trmanco | :-D | Oct 04 23:25 |
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| trmanco | wow | Oct 04 23:26 |
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| trmanco | traffic is increasing at a very high pace | Oct 04 23:26 |
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| schestowitz | *LOL*" We laugh at AlexH for thinking that because a bug existed in a calculation, it should be specified and mandated that all future calculations contain the same bug, in case people corrected for it?" < http://news.slashdot.org/articl... > | Oct 04 23:27 |
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| schestowitz | tessier: I found this .sig: "CmdrTaco is a Twitter sock-puppet." | Oct 04 23:29 |
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| tessier | What does that mean? | Oct 04 23:29 |
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| schestowitz | Oops. twitter: I found this .sig: "CmdrTaco is a Twitter sock-puppet." | Oct 04 23:29 |
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| MinceR | :) | Oct 04 23:30 |
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| PetoKraus | (if you need it, http://pk.gjhak.sk/.storage/OOX...) | Oct 04 23:31 |
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| PetoKraus | where's the traffic monitor? | Oct 04 23:31 |
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| schestowitz | Thanks, PetoKraus. I'll add it. | Oct 04 23:32 |
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| trmanco | cool | Oct 04 23:33 |
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| schestowitz | Added | Oct 04 23:33 |
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| schestowitz | It's good cause the PDF is the biggest bast4rd | Oct 04 23:34 |
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| trmanco | yes | Oct 04 23:34 |
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| trmanco | 53 megs | Oct 04 23:34 |
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| PetoKraus | well | Oct 04 23:34 |
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| trmanco | 87 megs in 10 minutes | Oct 04 23:35 |
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| trmanco | :O | Oct 04 23:35 |
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| schestowitz | This helps in spreading the load. | Oct 04 23:35 |
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| PetoKraus | where's the traffic monitor? | Oct 04 23:36 |
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| schestowitz | Portugal, Slovakia, UK and sunny California. | Oct 04 23:36 |
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| schestowitz | PetoKraus: which one? | Oct 04 23:36 |
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| PetoKraus | for BN | Oct 04 23:36 |
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| schestowitz | It's behind password | Oct 04 23:37 |
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| PetoKraus | alright | Oct 04 23:39 |
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| PetoKraus | good luck, see you tomorrow ;) | Oct 04 23:39 |
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| schestowitz | gn | Oct 04 23:39 |
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| zoobab | gn | Oct 04 23:41 |
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| *PetoKraus has quit ("The purpose of IRC is to...IDLE...") | Oct 04 23:44 |
| schestowitz | Alex Brown retires! | Oct 04 23:45 |
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| schestowitz | http://adjb.net/index.php?entr... | Oct 04 23:45 |
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| schestowitz | Maybe it's all that pressure. | Oct 04 23:47 |
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| AVRS2 | gn | Oct 04 23:53 |
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| trmanco | well | Oct 04 23:58 |
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| trmanco | time to go to bed | Oct 04 23:58 |
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| trmanco | good night everyone... | Oct 04 23:58 |
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| schestowitz | IBM is a no-show. http://adjb.net/index.php?entry... | Oct 04 23:58 |
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| schestowitz | They save the charade and the plane ticket. Good stuff. Alex Brown writes "Bye Byte IBM?" instead of "Bye Bye ISO". | Oct 04 23:59 |
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