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| twitter | Sorry about the server but isn't http://baine.smb.man.ac.uk:8001/ the host that got turned off automatically? | Oct 06 00:48 |
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| schestowitz | twitter: yes, it is. | Oct 06 06:46 |
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| schestowitz | The MAFIAA up to no good: "Judge halts sales of RealDVD [...] Representatives from the MPAA and RealNetworks could not be reached Sunday." http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-10058574-93... | Oct 06 07:25 |
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| schestowitz | PJ (on the Portugal/Microsoft scandal): If you read the entire press release, I think you'll agree that OLPC made a mistake allowing Microsoft inside the tent. They can't possibly offer the kinds of financial packages Microsoft can offer to kill the XO. They should have stayed separate, and present the security and privacy issues that come with Microsoft software instead, in my view. Note that "Magellan computers will also feature | Oct 06 07:40 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft Office 2007" which means XML. | Oct 06 07:40 |
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| schestowitz | Microsof'ts lapdog Carmony is suing Roberton: http://kevincarmony.blogspot.com/20... (ping: tessier) | Oct 06 08:56 |
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| schestowitz | The Century of the Self: http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/10/... | Oct 06 09:36 |
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| schestowitz | "now that the load on the server has declined somewhat (tens of gigabytes in days), we decided that it’s safe to upload this graphics-rich HTML version of 1080 (comprising over 11,000 pertinent files)": http://boycottnovell.com/forms/... | Oct 06 10:33 |
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| schestowitz | Oh oh.... BN might make Digg's FP. Much 'worse' than Slashdot. | Oct 06 14:18 |
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| schestowitz | http://digg.com/linux_unix/The_Free_Software_F... | Oct 06 14:18 |
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| trmanco | dugg :P | Oct 06 14:23 |
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| schestowitz | I'll use CORAL distributed cache | Oct 06 14:24 |
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| trmanco | it works? | Oct 06 14:27 |
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| schestowitz | I don't know if I can CORAL the whole page now. | Oct 06 14:27 |
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| schestowitz | I'm passing the image to cache just in case though. | Oct 06 14:27 |
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| schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com.nyud.net:8080/wp-con... | Oct 06 14:27 |
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| schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com.nyud.net:8080/2008... | Oct 06 14:29 |
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| schestowitz | I'm not sure though if Apache will let me redirect past the Apache Rewrite rules. It's a real pain. | Oct 06 14:30 |
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| schestowitz | Now sure about this one... http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/redirection/ | Oct 06 14:33 |
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| zoobab | http://boycottnovell.com/2008/... | Oct 06 14:46 |
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| zoobab | JoseX and AlexH are real trolls | Oct 06 14:46 |
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| schestowitz | Jose is not a troll. | Oct 06 14:46 |
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| schestowitz | zoobab, maybe you can help me here: I have quick question. How can I redirect from a WP page to another page (CORAL)? WordPress's virtual structure supersedes rules for a 301 redirect. Digg might take my site soon if I don't sort this out. | Oct 06 14:47 |
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| zoobab | no idea | Oct 06 14:47 |
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| zoobab | you can either write a redirect in Apache | Oct 06 14:47 |
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| zoobab | I think it is trivial to write a HTTP301 rule in apache.conf | Oct 06 14:48 |
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| schestowitz | Yes, but the CMS already have them in place, for the virtual structure. | Oct 06 14:48 |
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| schestowitz | I don't think I have access to it. | Oct 06 14:48 |
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| zoobab | no idea how it works in WP | Oct 06 14:48 |
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| schestowitz | htaccess instead... | Oct 06 14:48 |
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| zoobab | .htaccess | Oct 06 14:49 |
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| zoobab | <Files .htaccess> order allow,deny deny from all | Oct 06 14:49 |
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| zoobab | </Files> | Oct 06 14:49 |
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| zoobab | <IfModule mod_alias.c> Redirect permanent /dossier01/page01.html http://nouvelle.adresse.fr/dossier03/page02.html RedirectMatch permanent /dossier01/(.*)\.html$ http://nouvelle.adresse.fr/dossier02/$1.php Redirect permanent /dossier01 http://nouvelle.adresse.fr/dossier02 Redirect permanent / http://nouvelle.adresse.fr/ | Oct 06 14:49 |
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| zoobab | </IfModule> | Oct 06 14:49 |
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| zoobab | http://alexandre.alapetite.net/doc-ale... | Oct 06 14:49 |
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| zoobab | try with this .htaccess | Oct 06 14:49 |
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| zoobab | if you can use the <IfModule> that might be enough | Oct 06 14:49 |
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| zoobab | Redirect permanent /dossier1 http://adresse.actuelle.fr/dossier2 | Oct 06 14:49 |
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| schestowitz | Let me try it, thanks. | Oct 06 14:54 |
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| schestowitz | Ah! | Oct 06 15:17 |
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| schestowitz | zoobab: you cracked it! | Oct 06 15:17 |
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| schestowitz | The site \collapsed so many times before when hitting Digg's FP. If only I knew how to resolve this earlier... | Oct 06 15:19 |
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| schestowitz | Alert: Moonlight sniffing Debian... http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/... | Oct 06 15:30 |
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| twitter | here's a crash for you... http://finance.google.com/finance?... | Oct 06 15:45 |
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| twitter | dump follows pump | Oct 06 15:45 |
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| schestowitz | "52Wk Low: 23.50" | Oct 06 15:49 |
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| schestowitz | http://finance.google.com/finance?q=novel "Mkt Cap: 1.68B" | Oct 06 15:49 |
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| schestowitz | Sinks like a rock. | Oct 06 15:49 |
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| twitter | Well, Sweaty B did say tech stocks were overvalued and that was unhealthy. | Oct 06 15:50 |
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| twitter | He should be careful what he wishes for. | Oct 06 15:51 |
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| twitter | The vassal of a loser is worth less than a loser http://finance.google.com/finance?q=NASDAQ:NOVL | Oct 06 15:52 |
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| twitter | Here's something outrageous, http://slashdot.org/~twitter/journal/213717 | Oct 06 15:54 |
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| schestowitz | Be aware of http://boycottnovell.com/2008/10/... | Oct 06 15:59 |
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| schestowitz | You've got to stop the gaming. As I said at the time, for the Linux Foundation to fight fire with fire is pointless and that's just what you do. | Oct 06 15:59 |
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| schestowitz | I'm sure that Slashdot is infested with corporate 'lobbyists' (shills,whatever), but you can't fight them by doing the same thing. | Oct 06 16:00 |
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| schestowitz | Gate... ""It's a very interesting crisis," Microsoft founder told CNN, discussing the US Congress's 700-billion dollar bailout bill for Wall Street which was passed Friday to stem economic jitters spreading around the world." | Oct 06 16:00 |
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| schestowitz | Gates is not feeling the pinch, I think. He and other Microsoft executives/investors amassed a fortune, so regardless of Microsoft's future, they will have earned money from all those crimes they committed. < http://boycottnovell.com/micros... > < http://www.groklaw.net/staticpages/in... > | Oct 06 16:02 |
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| trmanco | openoffice.org 3 comming on the 14th | Oct 06 16:22 |
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| trmanco | tomorrow they will be releasing RC4 | Oct 06 16:22 |
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| trmanco | http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki... | Oct 06 16:22 |
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| trmanco | Features -> http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/features/3.0/ | Oct 06 16:23 |
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| schestowitz | Thanks. | Oct 06 16:24 |
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| schestowitz | Just in time. I'm writing a post about ODF. | Oct 06 16:24 |
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| trmanco | great | Oct 06 16:25 |
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| twitter | Left a comment about gaming. I realize it's pointless. | Oct 06 16:41 |
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| twitter | but I'm not ashamed of it by a long shot. | Oct 06 16:41 |
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| twitter | If more people gave a shit and had the time to do something about it, Slashdot would not be where it is now. | Oct 06 16:42 |
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| twitter | Most people prefer a passive resistance and have retreated long ago. | Oct 06 16:42 |
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| schestowitz | trmanco: thanks for the help with this new one (just posted): http://boycottnovell.com/2008/10/... | Oct 06 16:43 |
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| trmanco | thanks | Oct 06 16:44 |
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| trmanco | schestowitz, Error establishing a database connection | Oct 06 16:44 |
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| trmanco | forget it, its fine now | Oct 06 16:44 |
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| schestowitz | twitter: you'll save yourself time by dedicating efforts and offering insights to sites that are filled with shills. | Oct 06 16:44 |
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| schestowitz | I understand your frustration because people still attack anything I do in Digg, but I don't retaliate. | Oct 06 16:45 |
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| schestowitz | I used to leave about 40 comments a day in Digg, but now I just spend more time blogging instead. | Oct 06 16:45 |
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| schestowitz | If Digg can't police the shills and even ignores my plea to react (they just let it be), then I won't contribute to them as much as I used to. It's /that/ simple | Oct 06 16:46 |
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| schestowitz | If Slashdot blacklists your journal entires, why not put it elsewhere. I'd be pleased to give them a place in BN, for example. | Oct 06 16:46 |
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| schestowitz | trmanco: error? :-O where? | Oct 06 16:47 |
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| trmanco | forget it, its fine now | Oct 06 16:47 |
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| schestowitz | twitter: my first sentence was wrong. Should have said: " you'll save yourself time by dedicating efforts and offering insights to sites that are NOT filled with shills." | Oct 06 16:47 |
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| schestowitz | That also ought to pressure Slashdot to react and extinguish the problem. More shills = less regulars = less business for Larry Augustin and the Boyz. | Oct 06 16:48 |
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| schestowitz | twitter: I just replied. | Oct 06 17:04 |
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| schestowitz | I still think you can submit journal stuff to Slashdot for Grownup, AKA Technocrat (Bruce Perens) | Oct 06 17:05 |
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| _Doug | re: twitter: I just replied .. wha' ? | Oct 06 17:09 |
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| _Doug | Microsoft "Voices for Innovation" .. | Oct 06 17:10 |
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| _Doug | http://www.digitalmajority.org/forum/t-91... | Oct 06 17:11 |
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| twitter | Yes, I've been spending more of my time elsewhere. The destruction of sites like Slashdot bothers me and I'm still not willing to be passive about it. | Oct 06 17:15 |
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| schestowitz | _Doug: see http://boycottnovell.com/2008/10/06/... for context | Oct 06 17:16 |
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| schestowitz | twitter: it was the same with Digg. Leaving it was like an admission of defeat (for Digg, not for me), which is a shame. | Oct 06 17:17 |
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| twitter | Every now and then I'm going to use M$ techniques to fix things. They crap flood every comment section, usually by grabbing a first post and chaining a long series of replies. They use that chain to push other comments out of view with the most vile and offensive comments they can imagine. | Oct 06 17:19 |
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| twitter | I'm going to keep hammering them with the truth every now and then. | Oct 06 17:19 |
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| trmanco | http://www.computerworlduk.com/toolbox/open-sou... | Oct 06 17:19 |
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| twitter | I have to admit, time spent here is more pleasant and rewarding, but Slashdot is still a huge community that deserves better than what they get. | Oct 06 17:20 |
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| schestowitz | twitter: yes, FP +chain. I see that too. The first one is not always provocative though. I hardly see Microsoft critique anymore. Where it exists, it's FAR too gentle, treating Microsoft like a cuddle bear in need of breakfast. | Oct 06 17:21 |
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| twitter | M$ has to spend orders of magnitude more time than I do to keep Slashdot crapped out. I like that it wastes their time and money. | Oct 06 17:21 |
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| schestowitz | *cuddly | Oct 06 17:21 |
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| _Doug | "They use that chain to push other comments out of view", I've noticed .. another thing to watch out for is the mod up +5 comments .. | Oct 06 17:22 |
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| twitter | My activity also forces them to more extreme behavior and vileness. | Oct 06 17:23 |
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| _Doug | Or the, I'm a Linux supporter except for it doesn't have X feeture :) | Oct 06 17:23 |
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| _Doug | Or I work for Sun, Oracle, the NSA etc :) | Oct 06 17:23 |
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| trmanco | http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/1_... | Oct 06 17:24 |
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| _Doug | sorry, I'm late to the discussion, who is 'twitter', does he troll slashdot and if not who is accusing him of this ? | Oct 06 17:25 |
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| schestowitz | trmanco: see this comment from minutes ago < http://boycottnovell.com/2008/10/06/oss... > | Oct 06 17:26 |
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| schestowitz | Thanks for the CW link (Moody). I'll use it later. | Oct 06 17:26 |
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| twitter | I'm not a troll, thanks. :) | Oct 06 17:27 |
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| _Doug | Personally, for serious news, I gave up on SlashDot a long time ago | Oct 06 17:27 |
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| schestowitz | Same here. | Oct 06 17:27 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=mozclient&a... | Oct 06 17:27 |
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| twitter | Thinking of serious news, Dow has broken below 10,000 again.... http://finance.google.com/finance | Oct 06 17:27 |
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| schestowitz | Which is ironic because BN was at their front page the other day. | Oct 06 17:27 |
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| twitter | Oh my. | Oct 06 17:28 |
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| schestowitz | Chair breaking too, eh? | Oct 06 17:28 |
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| _Doug | It seems to contain nothing but modded up bum-fluff for the MICROS~1 organization | Oct 06 17:28 |
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| schestowitz | http://finance.google.com/finance?q=msft "-1.71 (-6.49%)" | Oct 06 17:28 |
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| _Doug | Lots of adverts for shiney gadgets and free adverts for books, | Oct 06 17:29 |
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| twitter | yeah, the chairman is sure to be pissed about sub $25 price. | Oct 06 17:29 |
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| schestowitz | http://slated.org/halo_goodbye_again "It hasn't exactly been a great year for the Vole, what with losing 90 Billion Dollars in the first half of the year, then another 24 Billion - in just 2 weeks - recently. Let's not even get started about their 40 Billion dollar stock buyback." | Oct 06 17:29 |
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| _Doug | Like how to turn Excel into a rival for Matematica :) | Oct 06 17:29 |
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| schestowitz | They already pump $40 billion into it, borrowing money (yes, borrowing) in the process to resore confidence. | Oct 06 17:29 |
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| schestowitz | Without the illusion (for the CIO) that "microsoft will be there forever^TM", business will suffer. It's a downward spiral also when the brand suffers (it declined and loses to Google now). | Oct 06 17:30 |
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| _Doug | ot: 'slashvertisements' .. well put schestowitz .. that's what this should be called slashvertisements: an free advert pretending to be real news .. | Oct 06 17:31 |
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| schestowitz | Zafara. | Oct 06 17:31 |
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| schestowitz | Did you see that? Proprietary trap (dual licence) in the clothing of GPLv3, advertised in /. last week (well, two weeks ago actually). | Oct 06 17:32 |
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| schestowitz | "By Paul Krill" http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/10/06/Mo... | Oct 06 17:33 |
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| schestowitz | Krill does a lot of Microsoft boosting. | Oct 06 17:33 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.google.com/search.. | Oct 06 17:34 |
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| schestowitz | He's also the one behind "Linux Foundation would like to talk to Microsoft" (or something along those lines) | Oct 06 17:34 |
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| schestowitz | He promoted things like Silverlight, Moonlight, and also, IIRC, does a lot about how Microsoft is all k00l about open source. Maybe they pulled him over for a visit at some stage. I'd love to find that out... | Oct 06 17:35 |
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| twitter | look, it's more PC Guy adverts http://bayimg.com/daDCDaAbP and http://bayimg.com/cadchAabP | Oct 06 17:40 |
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| zoobab | http://www.epip.eu/conferen... | Oct 06 17:41 |
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| zoobab | some patent stuff in there | Oct 06 17:41 |
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| zoobab | Roy, you really have to try Lighttpd for next Slashdotting | Oct 06 17:41 |
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| zoobab | it is much faster | Oct 06 17:41 |
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| zoobab | then this Apache | Oct 06 17:41 |
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| schestowitz | zoobab: I don't own the server though. | Oct 06 17:42 |
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| twitter | lunch time, back in a bit | Oct 06 17:42 |
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| schestowitz | re: PDFs... I rely on you to pull stuff from there. | Oct 06 17:42 |
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| schestowitz | zoobab: I got some new info on OOXML. | Oct 06 17:42 |
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| tessier_ | schestowitz: And it turns out we were wrong about it all along and that it really is a great open document format? | Oct 06 17:54 |
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| tessier_ | If I were building a server to survive a slashdotting I would put squid in front of apache. | Oct 06 17:55 |
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| schestowitz | Heh. No. | Oct 06 17:55 |
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| tessier_ | Schucks. | Oct 06 17:55 |
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| schestowitz | It's actually about possible 'gentle bribe' as they call it. | Oct 06 17:55 |
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| schestowitz | There's lots of this confirmed, but once at a national level are, well... more noteworthy | Oct 06 17:55 |
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| schestowitz | tessier: in case we made Digg < http://digg.com/linux_unix/The_Free_Softw... >, I use CORAL now for distributed cache. Digg effect is like 3 times worse than Slashdot, depending on topic and subject. | Oct 06 17:56 |
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| PetoKraus | that page doesn't work for me (the one linked at digg) | Oct 06 18:00 |
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| schestowitz | Hmmm... works fine for me (just clicked on it). :-S | Oct 06 18:03 |
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| zoobab | http://www.linux.com.cn/modcache/ | Oct 06 18:33 |
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| schestowitz | That's OK now, I've 'offshored' the caching. Weird layout that for Linux.com... | Oct 06 18:35 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft programming contest hacked, defaced: http://www.itwire.com/content/view/21016/1054/ | Oct 06 19:05 |
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| twitter | ha ha | Oct 06 19:07 |
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| twitter | here's more http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financi... | Oct 06 19:07 |
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| schestowitz | http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=msft : down 7% | Oct 06 19:07 |
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| schestowitz | "Well, it is true that there will be no depression for the richest man in America. The rest of us, who have lost factory jobs to Chinese slave labor and white collar jobs to people abused on the H1B visa plan can take comfort in Gate's continued optimism. Perhaps strong IP laws will save us!" | Oct 06 19:09 |
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| twitter | :) | Oct 06 19:11 |
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| schestowitz | Btw, an independent analisys of that covenant is available... http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-b... | Oct 06 19:27 |
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| schestowitz | Aw s*. CORAL is down now??! | Oct 06 19:36 |
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| schestowitz | It's not responding... http://digg.com/linux_unix/The_Free... | Oct 06 19:36 |
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| schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com.nyud.ne... "Error: 500 Internal Server Error... Server CoralWebPrx/0.1.19 (See http://coralcdn.org/) at 128.112.139.75:8080" | Oct 06 19:40 |
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| schestowitz | CORAL is back now.. http://boycottnovell.com.nyud.net:8080/20... | Oct 06 19:51 |
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| trmanco | lol | Oct 06 19:51 |
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| trmanco | having a hard time | Oct 06 19:51 |
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| trmanco | :P | Oct 06 19:51 |
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| schestowitz | This took a lot of time today, yes... | Oct 06 19:51 |
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| schestowitz | At least I learned why it didn't work before, so I can prevent being hammered offline in the future. | Oct 06 19:52 |
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| schestowitz | zoobab: give me 5 minutes and I'll post that OOXML thingie. | Oct 06 19:52 |
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| MinceR | was CoralCDN down at some point? | Oct 06 19:53 |
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| schestowitz | Yes, which is odd. | Oct 06 19:53 |
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| MinceR | odd indeed. | Oct 06 19:54 |
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| schestowitz | "Error: 500 Internal Server Error... Server CoralWebPrx/0.1.19 (See http://coralcdn.org/) at 128.112.139.75:8080" | Oct 06 19:54 |
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| schestowitz | It seems too later now... aww well... http://digg.com/linux_unix/The_Fre... | Oct 06 19:56 |
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| schestowitz | *late | Oct 06 19:57 |
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| trmanco | won't connect | Oct 06 20:07 |
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| trmanco | what happened ? | Oct 06 20:07 |
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| schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com/2008/10/0... | Oct 06 20:11 |
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| schestowitz | It's a big conspiracy. ;-) ;-) ;-) Microsoft threatened Coal at gunpoint. ;-) | Oct 06 20:12 |
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| schestowitz | *Coral | Oct 06 20:12 |
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| schestowitz | Yes, it's down again. :-( | Oct 06 20:13 |
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| Tallken | hi schestowitz | Oct 06 20:24 |
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| Tallken | schestowitz: wanna a trick or treat? | Oct 06 20:25 |
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| MinceR | hay | Oct 06 20:25 |
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| MinceR | what are you Tallken about? ;) | Oct 06 20:25 |
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| Tallken | :D | Oct 06 20:25 |
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| Tallken | hi MinceR | Oct 06 20:25 |
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| schestowitz | "Treat" sounds kind of wrong, so I'll take a trick. *ducks* | Oct 06 20:27 |
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| Tallken | rofl :P | Oct 06 20:27 |
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| *Tallken searching | Oct 06 20:28 |
| schestowitz | Monovell is contaminating the Linux news feeds this afternoon. | Oct 06 20:30 |
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| schestowitz | Linux laptops news: http://www.electricpig.co.uk/2008/10/06... http://www.reghardware.co.uk/200... http://community.zdnet.co.uk/blog/0,10000005... | Oct 06 20:33 |
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| Tallken | schestowitz: there ya go! the program is 90% in English: http://sic.aeiou.pt/online/noticias... (search for Ballmer ;) ) | Oct 06 20:34 |
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| schestowitz | It's him! http://media.aftenposten.no/archive... | Oct 06 20:35 |
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| schestowitz | THIS guy went to have 'tea' in Oslo. | Oct 06 20:35 |
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| Tallken | tea? | Oct 06 20:35 |
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| MinceR | who's the guy on the left? | Oct 06 20:37 |
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| schestowitz | What does it say, Tallken? | Oct 06 20:39 |
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| schestowitz | Tallken: context here (posted before you came): http://boycottnovell.com/2008/10/06/n... | Oct 06 20:39 |
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| Tallken | don't know schestowitz, only watched it on TV the last part; downloaded the FLV though to watch again | Oct 06 20:40 |
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| Tallken | in the part I watched he said Portugal's actions were innovative | Oct 06 20:40 |
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| Tallken | that Classmate was only a concept which Portugal was the first to implement | Oct 06 20:40 |
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| Tallken | noone mentioned OLPC | Oct 06 20:40 |
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| schestowitz | INNOVA~1? | Oct 06 20:41 |
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| schestowitz | Linus Torvald: "I think that "innovation" is a four-letter word in the industry. It should never be used in polite company. It's become a PR thing to sell new versions with." | Oct 06 20:41 |
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| schestowitz | "It was Edison who said "1% inspiration, 99% perspiration". That may have been true a hundred years ago. These days it's "0.01% inspiration, 99.99% perspiration", and the inspiration is the easy part. As a project manager, I have never had trouble finding people with crazy ideas." | Oct 06 20:41 |
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| Tallken | lulz | Oct 06 20:42 |
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| schestowitz | "I have trouble finding people who can execute. IOW, "innovation" is way oversold. And it sure as hell shouldn't be applied to products like MS Word or Open office." | Oct 06 20:42 |
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| Tallken | you been using DOS too much, haven't you? :D | Oct 06 20:42 |
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| schestowitz | Me? | Oct 06 20:42 |
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| Tallken | Didn't know the first nor the last though | Oct 06 20:42 |
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| Tallken | INNOVA~1 lol | Oct 06 20:42 |
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| schestowitz | Oh, that. It's still under DEVEL~1 DEVEL~1 DEVEL~1! | Oct 06 20:43 |
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| Tallken | :P | Oct 06 20:43 |
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| schestowitz | Oops. Missing O. | Oct 06 20:43 |
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| Tallken | :P | Oct 06 20:44 |
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| Tallken | 6 letters plz :P | Oct 06 20:44 |
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| schestowitz | See if you can find evidence of Ballmer rewarding Portugal in some way. | Oct 06 20:44 |
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| schestowitz | # Portuguese Government and Microsoft Partner on Affordable Computing Agreement for Schoolchildren | Oct 06 20:44 |
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| schestowitz | # 07:23PM October 10/05/08, 2008 | Oct 06 20:44 |
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| schestowitz | "[PJ: If you read the entire press release, I think you'll agree that OLPC made a mistake allowing Microsoft inside the tent. They can't possibly offer the kinds of financial packages Microsoft can offer to kill the XO. They should..." | Oct 06 20:45 |
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| schestowitz | "have stayed separate, and present the security and privacy issues that come with Microsoft software instead, in my view. Note that "Magellan computers will also feature Microsoft Office 2007" which means XML.] - Microsoft PressPass" | Oct 06 20:45 |
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| schestowitz | Good news: http://www.businesswire.com/portal/site/google... | Oct 06 20:45 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft employees (former) boosting Mono: http://blogs.zdnet.com/carroll/?p=1881 | Oct 06 20:47 |
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| schestowitz | Notorious Microsoft shills' attack' Linux: http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=557 | Oct 06 20:47 |
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| schestowitz | Why do they even bother attacking Linux? That says plenty, especially now that Microsoft is 7% on the downside (in one day) | Oct 06 20:48 |
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| schestowitz | A shame about the price of this one because it''s an energy-efficient unit... http://news.cnet.com/8301-1... | Oct 06 20:50 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.informationweek.com/blog/main/a... "Nonetheless, when we polled CSI members -- almost all of whom are security professionals -- not a single respondent planned to migrate their XP-running machines to Vista, not in six, or even 12 months." | Oct 06 20:50 |
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| schestowitz | Something Fishy here: http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2008/... | Oct 06 21:17 |
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| aevin | MinceR: btw, the guy on the left is the norwegian prime minister, jens stoltenberg. | Oct 06 21:19 |
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| MinceR | ic | Oct 06 21:19 |
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| schestowitz | The guy on the right has influence on the US government, so... did they exchange IP or just arms? :-| Maybe McCain can just appoint him somewhere in politics (China) and be rid of this bully in Tech. | Oct 06 21:22 |
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| MinceR | i'm sure he'd want to get rid of sweaty beast | Oct 06 21:24 |
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| MinceR | it's not like they're the same kind of asshole :> | Oct 06 21:24 |
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| schestowitz | PJ has just written: “Funny how countries that buckled under in the OOXML vote keep popping up with new Microsoft investment. By the way, you don’t want to miss the photograph of Ballmer. | Oct 06 21:26 |
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| schestowitz | http://media.aftenposten.no/archive/00862/MICR... Looks like he pulls some incentives or something in anger. | Oct 06 21:26 |
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| MinceR | i hope he'll run out of those soon | Oct 06 21:27 |
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| MinceR | i hope we can cast them off without having to organize an armed rebellion against the establishment | Oct 06 21:27 |
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| schestowitz | eBay to slash workforce by 1,000: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7655073.stm | Oct 06 21:27 |
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| schestowitz | Debian didn't sack anyone. Neither has the FSF. :-) | Oct 06 21:27 |
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| MinceR | whom is ebay involved with? | Oct 06 21:28 |
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| schestowitz | Skype, maybe some Amazon... not so much Microsoft. | Oct 06 21:29 |
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| schestowitz | They use GNU/Linux in PayPal but eBay has some DLL Redmonism. | Oct 06 21:30 |
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| MinceR | ic | Oct 06 21:33 |
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| Tallken | hum | Oct 06 21:34 |
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| Tallken | did you read about China's demands to have the source of electronic apps? :D | Oct 06 21:34 |
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| MinceR | i did | Oct 06 21:35 |
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| MinceR | it's pretty unclear to me | Oct 06 21:35 |
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| schestowitz | Overall, the weakening of software megacorps is quite irrelevant to FOSS developers with no 'daytime' job. This favours change, also in the patent system and the sources of production. | Oct 06 21:35 |
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| MinceR | for example, what will they do with the source code? | Oct 06 21:35 |
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| schestowitz | Tallken: yes, I have. Let me find something. | Oct 06 21:35 |
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| Tallken | I found it amazing | Oct 06 21:35 |
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| Tallken | Didn't like it though | Oct 06 21:36 |
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| twitter | That's not a very fair review of the Shuttle system. Shuttle builds things well so that they are quiet. Emachines are usually crap. The hardware was almost identical otherwise. | Oct 06 21:36 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/dy/business/2... | Oct 06 21:39 |
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| schestowitz | http://web.archive.org/web/20030408171620/http:/... | Oct 06 21:40 |
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| schestowitz | Gates reveals Windows code to China | Oct 06 21:40 |
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| schestowitz | "In addition, Microsoft Chairman Bill Gates hinted that China will be privy to all, not just part, of the source code the government wishes to inspect. The Chinese government and military have previously stated their preference for the rival Linux operating system because its source code is publicly [...]" | Oct 06 21:41 |
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| schestowitz | "Last month, it announced GSP agreements with Russia, NATO and the United Kingdom. Microsoft is in discussions with more than 30 countries, territories and organizations regarding the program" | Oct 06 21:41 |
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| schestowitz | Cryptome: NSA has access to Windows Mobile smartphones : http://blogs.securiteam.com/index.... | Oct 06 21:41 |
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| schestowitz | Dual_EC_DRBG Added to Windows Vista : http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2... | Oct 06 21:41 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft Cofee brews 'back door' fears : http://www.itnews.com.au/News/75780,micr... | Oct 06 21:41 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft-China GSP Deal: Perjury OR Treachery? : http://www.linux.com/articles/28048 | Oct 06 21:41 |
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| schestowitz | Either way, the gist of it (opening paragraph): "Microsoft on Friday signed a pact with the Chinese government to reveal the Windows source code, making China among the first to benefit from its program to allay the security fears of governments." | Oct 06 21:41 |
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| schestowitz | What comes first: money or Planet earth? http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/scie... (bigger issue than a recession) | Oct 06 21:45 |
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| schestowitz | Also [OT]: 1 in 4 mammals at risk of extinction, scientists say < http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/s... > | Oct 06 21:46 |
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| twitter | The Earth and Money are the same thing. It's just a matter of how you use what you have, who decides who gets what and what you leave behind to your children. | Oct 06 21:56 |
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| twitter | Right now wealth is concentrated and most of us have neither wealth nor the ability to make real changes. | Oct 06 21:57 |
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| schestowitz | "elpless and devided" rings any bell? | Oct 06 21:58 |
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| schestowitz | "Helpless and divided" rings any bell? | Oct 06 21:58 |
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| twitter | Global warming models have been showing serious economic consequences to most of North America and Europe. Crops ruined by both drought and flood. | Oct 06 21:58 |
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| twitter | http://www.google.com/search?hl=... | Oct 06 21:59 |
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| trmanco | A recent interview quoted an MSI executive as saying that returns of Linux netbooks were more than four times higher those of Windows XP netbooks. However, the quote may say more about MSI's SUSE Linux implementation than the suitability of Linux as a netbook OS. | Oct 06 21:59 |
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| trmanco | dang, forgot the quote marks | Oct 06 21:59 |
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| MinceR | lol, suse | Oct 06 21:59 |
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| twitter | MSI, how well is that selling next to EEEPC that everyone seems to love? | Oct 06 22:00 |
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| schestowitz | trmanco: where is this from? | Oct 06 22:01 |
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| schestowitz | I was going to write about this because Ubuntu Mobile/Remix does well. | Oct 06 22:01 |
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| trmanco | http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS4... | Oct 06 22:01 |
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| trmanco | here | Oct 06 22:01 |
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| schestowitz | H-P is equally f* with SUSE | Oct 06 22:01 |
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| schestowitz | SUSE b0rks itself when 'updated' | Oct 06 22:01 |
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| twitter | Part of it is from Ed Bott's "attack" yous sent. | Oct 06 22:01 |
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| twitter | Xandros is not my favorite distro but I've seen EEEPC used and liked by hardened Windoze users. | Oct 06 22:01 |
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| schestowitz | It's nice to blame "Linux" | Oct 06 22:02 |
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| schestowitz | It's all just one thing. Command line, only for server, less than .0001% maket share. | Oct 06 22:02 |
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| twitter | Isn't MSI some kind of M$ infested company? | Oct 06 22:03 |
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| schestowitz | ACTA and other monsters discussed behind Council closed doors: http://www.digitalmajority.org/forum/t-... | Oct 06 22:04 |
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| zoobab | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqU81xNOOzY | Oct 06 22:05 |
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| schestowitz | Linpus is based on Fedora and used by many. It's simplified (dual mode). "omg, where's me stRat menu!!!!??" | Oct 06 22:05 |
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| zoobab | I was thinking to port OpenWrt to my netbook once I have bought one | Oct 06 22:08 |
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| zoobab | in order to boot Linux in 2seconds | Oct 06 22:08 |
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| zoobab | 1 second for the kernel | Oct 06 22:08 |
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| zoobab | and 1 second for the X to launch | Oct 06 22:08 |
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| zoobab | I am sure I can defaeeat the 5 seconds of moblin.org | Oct 06 22:09 |
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| schestowitz | How heavy is moblin though? | Oct 06 22:09 |
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| schestowitz | Is yours ARM-based? | Oct 06 22:09 |
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| twitter | Why do people worry about boot times? | Oct 06 22:11 |
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| schestowitz | Mobility | Oct 06 22:11 |
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| schestowitz | My Palm boots in less than 5 seconds. | Oct 06 22:11 |
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| schestowitz | 10 ms to switch on. | Oct 06 22:11 |
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| twitter | Sure, it's never really "off" is it? | Oct 06 22:11 |
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| MinceR | well, mine is | Oct 06 22:12 |
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| MinceR | since it refused to boot anymore | Oct 06 22:12 |
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| schestowitz | Brick. | Oct 06 22:12 |
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| twitter | Sorry to hear that. My handspring still works. Laptops should be able to do the same thing with power management. | Oct 06 22:12 |
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| MinceR | brick indeed | Oct 06 22:13 |
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| MinceR | one month after warranty expired. | Oct 06 22:13 |
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| schestowitz | "Order your Microsoft Brick now and get another one ab-so-lutely free. it's immune to viruses because it's always switched off" | Oct 06 22:13 |
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| schestowitz | Mine has a borked speaker cause of the headphones jack. | Oct 06 22:14 |
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| MinceR | sounds better than the iBrick... | Oct 06 22:14 |
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| schestowitz | Sometimes the digitizer goes off/bad, but it's manageable if I shake it up a bit. | Oct 06 22:14 |
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| schestowitz | The iBrick is a myth but I read about irt earlier. | Oct 06 22:14 |
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| schestowitz | http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ne... | Oct 06 22:15 |
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| twitter | Handspring required a "module" for music playing, cameras or phones. The phone was a cool first. | Oct 06 22:15 |
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| schestowitz | I think I saw something in the Inquirer though. | Oct 06 22:15 |
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| schestowitz | Shiny! http://www.spicu.com/wp-content/uploads/2008... | Oct 06 22:16 |
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| twitter | Be nice. People love their iPhones. At least here in the US where they will never have phone choices. | Oct 06 22:17 |
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| PetoKraus | :D | Oct 06 22:17 |
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| PetoKraus | i love my nokia 2310 and it loves me | Oct 06 22:17 |
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| PetoKraus | it's the only phone where throwing it againist the wall can cost you actually less than doing it with a brick. | Oct 06 22:18 |
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| twitter | I have something similar but I've seen iPhone work and it's nice. | Oct 06 22:19 |
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| twitter | I don't want one because it's non free and it's owners include ATT. | Oct 06 22:19 |
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| twitter | It's a computer. If I can't put Debian on it, I don't want it. | Oct 06 22:20 |
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| MinceR | i call the iPhone iBrick. | Oct 06 22:20 |
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| MinceR | (it's slightly more useful than a rock) | Oct 06 22:20 |
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| schestowitz | You can put Debian on the FreeRunner | Oct 06 22:20 |
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| ZiggyFish1 | MinceR: I call it crap | Oct 06 22:20 |
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| schestowitz | tessier has one. | Oct 06 22:21 |
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| MinceR | http://imghype.com/data/777157d1433509.jpg | Oct 06 22:21 |
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| PetoKraus | schestowitz: the battery life is pathetic, though | Oct 06 22:21 |
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| ZiggyFish1 | ICrap | Oct 06 22:21 |
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| schestowitz | PetoKraus: you buy a crank for it. | Oct 06 22:21 |
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| PetoKraus | :) it's too expensive for me, still. | Oct 06 22:22 |
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| PetoKraus | poor student living off few hundred quid a month...:) | Oct 06 22:22 |
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| ZiggyFish1 | lol | Oct 06 22:23 |
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| PetoKraus | one freerunner is my monthly wage, so... | Oct 06 22:23 |
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| twitter | I'd like a FreeRunner but I'm not sure it would work with my phone provider. It's one of those last mile problems that will only go away with Open Spectrum. | Oct 06 22:23 |
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| PetoKraus | though, if FSF could give it's members a FreeRunner discount... | Oct 06 22:23 |
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| *trmanco has quit ("I just hit the close button :)") | Oct 06 22:24 |
| PetoKraus | I would consider it more seriously. For now, 100 pints > freerunner. | Oct 06 22:24 |
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| twitter | Given the non free phone choices available, the less functionality the better. iPhone, Windozemobile and the rest will be "polite" devices, remote controlled by those with power. | Oct 06 22:24 |
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| twitter | They will turn off right before officer friendly tazes you and your friends. | Oct 06 22:25 |
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| twitter | no more youtube videos of official misconduct | Oct 06 22:26 |
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| schestowitz | No? No tazering? | Oct 06 22:27 |
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| schestowitz | http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=kSKlCTdDycI | Oct 06 22:27 |
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| MinceR | freerunner has no keyboard :/ | Oct 06 22:27 |
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| twitter | I like pen interfaces | Oct 06 22:28 |
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| PetoKraus | i like tactile response. | Oct 06 22:29 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk... | Oct 06 22:31 |
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| twitter | gotta restart X, some nasty site zombied my gnash. | Oct 06 22:32 |
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| MinceR | i like tactile feedback | Oct 06 22:32 |
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| twitter | then I'll get some din din. | Oct 06 22:32 |
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| twitter | later | Oct 06 22:32 |
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| AVRS2 | gn | Oct 06 22:37 |
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| Tallken | gnu? | Oct 06 22:42 |
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| schestowitz | GNU Night is Not UNIX. | Oct 06 22:43 |
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| ZiggyFish1 | I'm off (got to go to work) | Oct 06 22:44 |
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| schestowitz | Weird. Australia is upside-down.. literally. | Oct 06 22:45 |
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| Tallken | cya ZiggyFish1 | Oct 06 22:46 |
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