| macabe | Back in '68 part of our Ranger training included 2 weeks survival in Pensacola (everglades). The need to know hunger first hand. | Nov 02 00:00 |
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| macabe | And how to deal with it or let it beat you. | Nov 02 00:01 |
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| schestowitz | That's an ordeal | Nov 02 00:03 |
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| schestowitz | Greater than grilling from the Judge or even a pie in the face. Ah wel... | Nov 02 00:03 |
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| schestowitz | I particularly liked this video of BillG: http://boycottnovell.com/2008/10... | Nov 02 00:04 |
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| schestowitz | He talks to the justice authorities as though he owns them (well, he does not... own the DoJ using cronies they planted there in the last 90s) | Nov 02 00:05 |
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| macabe | He's condescending, real squiggly, and the last part (the rocking); grandpa always said to me, "Whenever you see a person rocking back and forth, when talking to you, pay close attention. It's a sign of mental instability". | Nov 02 00:13 |
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| schestowitz | [OT: the death of professional journalism: http://blogs.computerworld.com/win... "Linux" "Kill" "Die" "War" And someone found the troll noteworthy for InfoWeek and therefore news aggregations... http://www.informationweek.com/blog/... ] | Nov 02 00:18 |
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| schestowitz | BillG cried in July. | Nov 02 00:19 |
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| macabe | What day in July? Maybe the lobbyists can push for a national holiday. | Nov 02 00:25 |
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| schestowitz | http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=rvkf0iJnWmE | Nov 02 00:26 |
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| schestowitz | Wikia shrinks and Wales speaks. Wikipedia founder Jimmy Wales expects internet downturn but no 'bloodbath' < http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysecto... > | Nov 02 00:30 |
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| schestowitz | Sun's damage control. Half-full glass analogy again.. Understanding Sun's Business - Q1 Results < http://blogs.sun.com/jonathan/entry/understa... >; The Sun Model < http://blogs.sun.com/webmink/entry/the_sun_model > | Nov 02 00:31 |
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| macabe | Chair throwing, Crocodile tears. Used car salesman as CEO. Too bad Gates didn't really retire. | Nov 02 00:36 |
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| schestowitz | Sun should really rely on their software spreading as widely as possible, so Sun should consider giving a properly-licensed ZFS to Linux and 'seed' the market. It didn't work out too badly for some guy called Linus. Morton objected to an OpenSolaris merge, but ZFS alone makes more sense. Look how much value MySQL gained by giving its wares away. | Nov 02 00:36 |
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| schestowitz | macabe: no, he didn't retire. | Nov 02 00:37 |
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| schestowitz | I've always viewed this CNET (Paul Allen-backed) as image building for Microsoft. "Let's show a sentimental side..." | Nov 02 00:37 |
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| schestowitz | Smears against Obama dissected: Anatomy of a Smear < http://technocrat.net/d/2008/11/1/53153 > "We've got our "October Surprise". IMO the Republicans behind this are bottom-feeders. No, maybe worms that eat dead bottom-feeders." | Nov 02 00:40 |
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| macabe | OK, minute of sentiment over. Been using ZFS fuse on IBM T61, I guess because of fuse, didn't really see a difference. I heard Sun was going to open the source for ZFS. | Nov 02 00:41 |
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| schestowitz | I asked Simon for it. :-) Not that I matter much, but maybe if enough people ask for GPL-only, then it'll happen. | Nov 02 00:42 |
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| schestowitz | Sun is hurting, which is s shame. They have a very cure Web site with good fonts. 2008 Corporate Social Responsibility Report < http://www.sun.com/aboutsu... >. We need to help Sun. We **need** them... for Java, for OOo... | Nov 02 00:43 |
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| schestowitz | Hehe. Search Google for "novell" < http://www.google.com/search?q=novell >, get Boycott Novell in page 1 again. We used to be further up near the top though. | Nov 02 00:49 |
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| MinceR | gn | Nov 02 01:07 |
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| schestowitz | ...Why do professionals use a kiddie thing like Twitter? ... http://www.sutor.com/newsite/blog-open/?p=2731 What's next? MySpace for CEOs? | Nov 02 01:09 |
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| schestowitz | *LOL* http://www.mixx.com/stories/2652248/... "Founded in 1975, Microsoft is the worldwide leader in bribery, extortion, blackmail and customer abuse." | Nov 02 01:41 |
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| macabe | Why does it need a proprietary drive? | Nov 02 01:49 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft faces uncertain financial future as it looks to the cloud < http://www.techflash.com/microsoft/Microsofts_finan... > "Ozzie, a software pioneer known for creating Lotus Notes, joined Microsoft in 2005. " So first they "tilt him into the death spiral" and now they hire him? | Nov 02 01:50 |
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| schestowitz | macabe ZFS? | Nov 02 01:50 |
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| twitter | When you ruin a company, you can pick up the assets for pennies on the dollar. Ozzie was an asset, it seems. | Nov 02 01:51 |
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| schestowitz | They snapped a key Java guy recently. | Nov 02 01:52 |
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| macabe | MS paying Sun for ZFS? | Nov 02 01:52 |
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| schestowitz | Crispin Cowen from Novell too. | Nov 02 01:52 |
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| schestowitz | macabe: no, they pay Ozzie, having sabotaged his business. | Nov 02 01:52 |
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| schestowitz | Rick thinks of abandoning KDE. :-( http://www.deviceguru.com/ubuntu-810-... | Nov 02 02:10 |
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| twitter | Hmm, that would make Ozzie a different kind of asset. | Nov 02 02:12 |
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| twitter | Gnome annoys me. | Nov 02 02:14 |
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| schestowitz | Because of the founder? | Nov 02 02:14 |
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| twitter | Because of how it is. | Nov 02 02:15 |
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| twitter | The defaults are annoying. File browsing, desktop switching, paging. Things work, sometimes very well but the desktop environment always drives me nuts. | Nov 02 02:17 |
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| twitter | E16 works for me. | Nov 02 02:17 |
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| twitter | KDE's modularity lets me have E16 and the kicker to hold most of the KDE goodies. | Nov 02 02:17 |
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| twitter | The split top bottom menu for Gnome was never something I really liked going all the way back to Gnome 1 in Red Hat 5 | Nov 02 02:18 |
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| twitter | Pidgin, gnome terminal, gedit, gnumeric and a few other things are all excellent but the desktop just drives me nuts. | Nov 02 02:21 |
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| schestowitz | GTK is still good. | Nov 02 02:21 |
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| twitter | I imagine it is for so many applications to work so well. | Nov 02 02:22 |
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| twitter | Compiz Fusion might rip me away from E16, but that's only because it has essentially the same features E16 gives me projected into 3D. | Nov 02 02:22 |
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| twitter | pagers become cubes | Nov 02 02:23 |
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| twitter | It requires 3d acceleration for things done well in 2d by E16 | Nov 02 02:24 |
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| twitter | I cringe when I hear Konqueror may go the way of other dumber browsers. I can't imagine that would be allowed to happen. | Nov 02 02:26 |
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| schestowitz | Konqueror stays. | Nov 02 02:28 |
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| schestowitz | Dolphin just becomes default choice. | Nov 02 02:29 |
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| twitter | Once upon a time, M$ funneled bad tools and advice onto their competitors at Lotus. I see the Gnome people making the same mistakes. Hopefully the KDE people will be smarter. | Nov 02 02:29 |
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| twitter | Defaults matter. | Nov 02 02:29 |
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| twitter | I can't judge Dolphin because I have not used it, but the open everything in tabs that can be split anyway you like is unbeatable. | Nov 02 02:30 |
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| twitter | Opening everything in separate windows is a stupid and confusing waste of screen real estate. | Nov 02 02:31 |
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| twitter | A cluttered desktop sucks. | Nov 02 02:32 |
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| twitter | I know you can change the defaults, but what a pain that is. | Nov 02 02:32 |
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| schestowitz | Dolphon should get tabs too. | Nov 02 02:33 |
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| twitter | Yes, I've read that the infrastructure is there for everything normal, it's just not exposed yet. | Nov 02 02:34 |
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| schestowitz | Hmmm... BN in SUSEForums?? http://forums.opensuse.org/s... | Nov 02 02:34 |
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| twitter | KDE should not make itself into a copy of Gnome by default. | Nov 02 02:34 |
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| twitter | That would eliminate a healthy choice. | Nov 02 02:35 |
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| schestowitz | GL seems to be declining if some numbers are anything to judge by. | Nov 02 02:37 |
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| twitter | Well, the SCO case is over. | Nov 02 02:38 |
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| schestowitz | Yes. | Nov 02 02:38 |
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| schestowitz | Not quite though. | Nov 02 02:38 |
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| schestowitz | The comments you see in FP says a lot.. http://www.groklaw.net/index.php | Nov 02 02:38 |
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| schestowitz | It used to be like 200-300 in each. Slashdot suffers a similar fate as so do other 'big' Linux sites because there are more and more blogs out there. | Nov 02 02:39 |
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| twitter | Let M$ launch a patent lawsuit and GL will get back up. | Nov 02 02:39 |
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| schestowitz | I like Phoronix. It's gotten big. | Nov 02 02:39 |
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| twitter | The trolls may have left GL alone, that reduces comments. | Nov 02 02:40 |
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| schestowitz | hAl et al. | Nov 02 02:40 |
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| twitter | Why would W.E. people bother with GL right now? | Nov 02 02:40 |
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| twitter | gotta go, good night | Nov 02 02:41 |
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| schestowitz | OMG | Nov 02 02:42 |
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| schestowitz | Shills... Yankee and Gartner throw FUD at Android. http://www.pcworld.com/article... | Nov 02 02:42 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.pcworld.com/article/15... ( Acer Forecasts Strong Holiday Season ); http://www.pcworld.com/articl... ( Acer Netbook Shipments to Beat Asus's Eee PC ) | Nov 02 02:54 |
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| schestowitz | http://techdirt.com/articles/20081... "just how such a database will be abused -- either by gov't officials or by hackers. It sounds like the bill still has a ways to go before becoming law, but this appears to be yet another move by a government to mistakenly assert that taking away people's privacy somehow makes them more secure." | Nov 02 02:58 |
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| ZiggyFish1 | I wanted to see what they would say when I asked them about Linux support Silverlight. And the first line of the reply was 'Thank you for requesting support for Microsoft Silverlight for Mac. My name is Kendal and I will be working with you to resolve this issue.' | Nov 02 06:00 |
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| schestowitz | Antarctica hit by climate change < http://www.nature.com/news/2008/0... > | Nov 02 09:54 |
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| schestowitz | Corruption in government: PM 'used crony to fix nuclear power inquiry' < http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politic... > | Nov 02 10:23 |
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| schestowitz | Government coordinating propaganda: Government Agencies Pre-emptively Spin the Bush Years [...] An e-mail went out last week to government agencies to get working on a project to lay out 'THE BUSH RECORD,'" reports Al Kamen. < http://www.prwatch.org/node/7831 > | Nov 02 10:25 |
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| schestowitz | *LOL* Novell and Microsoft... http://tirania.org/blog/arch... | Nov 02 12:35 |
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| twitter | good morning. /. has the ultimate M$ advertisement. They give the soft a place to publish vaporware promises and push Silverblight this morning. http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?s... | Nov 02 13:51 |
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| schestowitz | heh. | Nov 02 13:53 |
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| twitter | pptx, that's M$ Office's version of their OOXML? | Nov 02 13:53 |
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| schestowitz | Given what I've said about Slashdot selling out it funny to see "Karma: Excellent" | Nov 02 13:53 |
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| schestowitz | same when I tossed dirt at Digg. | Nov 02 13:53 |
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| schestowitz | I was the most prolific commenter there when I said the site had lost its way | Nov 02 13:53 |
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| twitter | It's not a matter of tossing dirt as much as it is not being misled | Nov 02 13:54 |
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| twitter | Looking at the pdf of Miguel's talk. pdf looks like crap bit map conversion. | Nov 02 13:56 |
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| twitter | Sponsored by Novell, Directed by Contributors. That's true if you don't specify the type of contribution. | Nov 02 13:57 |
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| twitter | "ECMA specifications make it possible" LOL | Nov 02 13:57 |
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| MinceR | pdf is crap | Nov 02 13:59 |
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| twitter | pdf works fine if you use something sane like LaTex | Nov 02 13:59 |
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| twitter | The font differences on page 6, "APIs", make it look like "Third Party" is an afterthought. | Nov 02 14:00 |
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| MinceR | it's still an unnecessary and non-portable variation on postscript | Nov 02 14:01 |
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| MinceR | i have lots of pdfs that work differently in different viewers | Nov 02 14:01 |
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| twitter | my ps thesis was about 300MB, my pdf thesis is about 4MB. it's too bad people have made portability problems but those almost always have M$ at their source. | Nov 02 14:06 |
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| twitter | At page 22 of 57, bullshit overflow, I'm bored, I quit. | Nov 02 14:09 |
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| twitter | So is Miguel an Office 2007 user? If so why? | Nov 02 14:10 |
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| schestowitz | Wait. | Nov 02 14:11 |
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| schestowitz | I think there was something about him praising Excel. | Nov 02 14:11 |
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| schestowitz | Maybe it was in the blog of Joe Shaw. | Nov 02 14:11 |
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| schestowitz | But it was partly a joke, IIRC. | Nov 02 14:11 |
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| twitter | He obviously use Power Point to make that 57 page nasty. Did he do it because he loves Power Point or because M$ gave him his outline? | Nov 02 14:12 |
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| MinceR | this particular probability problem has adobe at its source | Nov 02 14:12 |
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| MinceR | and you can gzip that ps if you need to | Nov 02 14:12 |
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| twitter | "Here, Monkey Boy, use this slide show." | Nov 02 14:12 |
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| MinceR | s/proba/porta/ | Nov 02 14:12 |
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| MinceR | hm, now we have two Monkey Boys. | Nov 02 14:13 |
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| twitter | gzip won't get me 2 orders of magnitude. There are many slaves in Redmond. | Nov 02 14:13 |
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| MinceR | and he must love powerpoint since he loves ooxml. | Nov 02 14:13 |
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| MinceR | have you tried gzip? | Nov 02 14:13 |
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| schestowitz | Mono Boys | Nov 02 14:13 |
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| MinceR | it depends on the text that is to be compressed | Nov 02 14:13 |
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| twitter | the portability issue comes from fonts | Nov 02 14:14 |
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| MinceR | and bad font handling | Nov 02 14:14 |
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| twitter | M$ has their own special fonts they won't let anyone else have anymore | Nov 02 14:14 |
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| MinceR | they've probably neglected to specify how their own program handles them | Nov 02 14:14 |
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| twitter | M$ fonts suck anyway | Nov 02 14:14 |
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| MinceR | this has nothing to do with m$ fonts | Nov 02 14:14 |
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| twitter | you don't think? | Nov 02 14:14 |
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| MinceR | and fonts are pretty much the only usable thing coming out of m$ | Nov 02 14:15 |
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| twitter | says a lot about M$ | Nov 02 14:15 |
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| MinceR | i'm pretty sure none of the fonts affected in my nonportable pdfs are from m$ | Nov 02 14:15 |
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| MinceR | well, they didn't develop the fonts, just bought them | Nov 02 14:15 |
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| MinceR | and since then i've already found that Charter looks better than Sylfaen anyway. | Nov 02 14:15 |
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| MinceR | (not to mention Melior/ZapfElliptical711) | Nov 02 14:15 |
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| twitter | bought them and put them under a rock. "true type" is one of their last sticking points, no one else wants that obsolete crap | Nov 02 14:16 |
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| MinceR | and Bitstream Vera Sans/DejaVu Sans looks better than Verdana if the font hinting is set properly | Nov 02 14:16 |
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| MinceR | (otherwise they're kind of ugly) | Nov 02 14:16 |
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| twitter | there are hundreds of good fonts made by the LaTex people. A lot of Bitstream fonts have been liberated. | Nov 02 14:17 |
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| twitter | M$ will go their own way, as usual. | Nov 02 14:17 |
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| twitter | OOXML will look like ass, even if you do have a translator because of font issues. It's the M$ way. | Nov 02 14:18 |
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| twitter | breakage of pdf is a bonus for them. | Nov 02 14:18 |
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| twitter | Because there are hundreds of high quality, royalty free fonts, none of that has to happen. | Nov 02 14:19 |
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| twitter | Source: Redmond. | Nov 02 14:19 |
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| MinceR | in any case, a non-portable format shouldn't have "portable" in its name. | Nov 02 14:21 |
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| MinceR | and adobe should have closed shop after developing postscript because nothing good has ever come out of them since. | Nov 02 14:22 |
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| macabe | Guys thanks for getting into fonts. I'm running gnu-sense on eeepc 1000 need to make fonts look better. don't want MS fonts. | Nov 02 14:23 |
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| MinceR | np | Nov 02 14:24 |
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| MinceR | i got Eurostile and ZapfElliptical711 at http://www.webpagepublicity.com/ , but i'm still not 100% sure it's legal for all uses :) | Nov 02 14:25 |
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| macabe | Currently using the usual plus added Liberation. Lib Mono very nice for me at term. | Nov 02 14:27 |
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| twitter | apt-cache search fonts will give you a list. the LaTex people have additional fonts | Nov 02 14:31 |
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| twitter | Nice Novell/SCO article on BN front page. | Nov 02 14:32 |
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| macabe | Will try that, Euro & ZAP, thanks. | Nov 02 14:32 |
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| MinceR | i can also recommend DejaVu Sans and DejaVu Sans Mono (identical to Bitstream Vera Mono and Bitstream Vera Mono Sans but with more characters) | Nov 02 14:33 |
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| twitter | There's been a spurt of Wintel "Vista is Dead" articles. | Nov 02 14:56 |
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| twitter | This one from June 1st, http://slashdot.org/~twitter... | Nov 02 14:57 |
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| twitter | Followed last week by Joe Wilcox http://www.microsoft-watch.com/content/vista... and Channel Web http://www.crn.com/software/211800614 | Nov 02 14:58 |
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| twitter | These had a few echos and there may be more. | Nov 02 14:59 |
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| twitter | Ding, dong, the Vista bitch is dead. | Nov 02 14:59 |
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| twitter | :) | Nov 02 14:59 |
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| twitter | Vista 7 will do about the same but faster, despite journalist policing. | Nov 02 15:02 |
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| schestowitz | twitter: no. | Nov 02 15:05 |
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| schestowitz | There's lots of disinfo about Vista 7 | Nov 02 15:05 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft bribed journalists and bloggers whom it gaver Vista 7 laptops | Nov 02 15:05 |
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| schestowitz | I shall write about it in a moment, but to make a long story short, they used the same old tricks to create anticipation for another Mojave | Nov 02 15:06 |
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| schestowitz | If you, can please accumulate posts and article about Vista 7 | Nov 02 15:06 |
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| schestowitz | I happen to collect some and post them in BN occasionally, but I have no index for them. | Nov 02 15:06 |
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| schestowitz | If you can build up and prepare a details list with one-line summaries of flaws, that would be a great attack vector when Vista 7 approaches release. | Nov 02 15:07 |
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| twitter | I've started such a beast, but basically it's Vista 2.0. http://slashdot.org/~twitt... | Nov 02 15:08 |
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| twitter | I'll be looking around. | Nov 02 15:09 |
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| twitter | Vista 7 does not launch till 2010 | Nov 02 15:09 |
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| twitter | That will make 9 years since they pushed out XP, which was itself an intrusive flop people resisted. | Nov 02 15:10 |
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| schestowitz | Add to the list the "critical" flaw. | Nov 02 15:11 |
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| twitter | Which one? | Nov 02 15:11 |
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| schestowitz | It could already be breached without user intervention. | Nov 02 15:12 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft will try to flog Vista 7 as most secure ever (because they can argue anything when the produce does not yet exist) | Nov 02 15:12 |
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| twitter | Ah, security flaws. That's a given. I'll have to put that in there. | Nov 02 15:12 |
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| twitter | I'll also have to quote the SLOG.DOC about vaporware. | Nov 02 15:13 |
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| schestowitz | To add: http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-10... "The more than 6,000 attendees who will be walking away from the sold-out event with the Windows 7 operating system software in hand could have been vulnerable to an attacker exploiting the security hole." | Nov 02 15:14 |
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| twitter | thanks | Nov 02 15:15 |
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| twitter | I'm amazed. The article was updated to say M$ patched the flaw a week before PDC but did not fix their DVDs! | Nov 02 15:33 |
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| twitter | I'm not sure if they did that because they were too cheap to redo the DVD or they know M$ security is a lost cause. | Nov 02 15:34 |
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| twitter | There, that looks better http://slashdot.org/~twitt... | Nov 02 15:39 |
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| twitter | Looking at the SLOG.DOC. ha ha. Ozzie got through step 12 of the Slog, " Victory. The developers, marketers, and managers of the competing technology give up the sinking ship, and interview for positions at Microsoft." | Nov 02 15:43 |
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| schestowitz | Just got an interesting E-mail: "I've been grinding through my list of things to do from the spring / summer. One item was to approach the MS problem as white collar crime." | Nov 02 16:11 |
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| schestowitz | "I spoke with a few law enforcement people and criminologists during my visit this summer. None are really prepared to take on "technology" so that has been a solid cover for a lot of crime. I've begun reading one of the recommended books on the topic: "Trusted Criminals: White Collar Crime in Contemporary Society. David O. Friedrichs. Wadsworth Publishing. (1995)"" | Nov 02 16:11 |
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| schestowitz | "The first chapter, where white collar crime is defined, is almost a word-for-word description about how MSFTers operate." | Nov 02 16:11 |
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| twitter | http://docs.google.com/View?... http://docs.google.com/Present?doci... http://docs.google.com/Present?docid... | Nov 02 16:21 |
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| twitter | via http://www.groklaw.net/article... | Nov 02 16:22 |
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| schestowitz | Jobs nobody needed anyway... http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-1007963... ( Symantec layoffs coming ) | Nov 02 16:31 |
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| twitter | Friend of Foe, M$ crushes them all. | Nov 02 16:33 |
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| schestowitz | We all pay the price. 1 Trojan + 3 years = 500,000 online financial accounts < http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-10079593-8... >. The cost and burden is shared by everyone who has a bank account. | Nov 02 16:34 |
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| schestowitz | Got to love Google's sense of humour! Google jokesters ward off zombies < http://news.cnet.com/8301-17939_109-10079... > | Nov 02 16:34 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft, despite its rave about R&D, is last among the pack.. always behind in the Web... http://news.cnet.com/8301-17939_10... | Nov 02 16:37 |
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| _doug | keeping the campaign clean .. "Lawsuit Challenging Obama’s Birth Place" | Nov 02 16:57 |
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| _doug | http://countusout.wordpress.com/2008/10/26/ohio... | Nov 02 16:57 |
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| schestowitz | Arnie... | Nov 02 17:01 |
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| schestowitz | bbk | Nov 02 17:01 |
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| schestowitz | bbl | Nov 02 17:01 |
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| _doug | MS indefinitely loans 2.4GHz 3GB dual-core .. | Nov 02 17:07 |
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| _doug | http://blogs.computerworld.co... | Nov 02 17:07 |
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| _doug | laptops .. | Nov 02 17:08 |
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| _doug | Bomb-proof bins comming to London .. | Nov 02 17:29 |
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| _doug | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/... | Nov 02 17:29 |
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| twitter | France drops off the free net http://yro.slashdot.org/article.p... | Nov 02 17:41 |
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| _doug | Microsoft's Linux killer? .. | Nov 02 17:42 |
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| _doug | http://blogs.computerworld.com/windows... | Nov 02 17:42 |
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| _doug | the Age of Open Source ideas .. | Nov 02 17:51 |
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| _doug | http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/paten... | Nov 02 17:51 |
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| _doug | OpenSUSE opens up to non-Novell employees .. | Nov 02 18:06 |
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| _doug | http://news.cnet.com/8301-13... | Nov 02 18:06 |
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| _doug | benJIman: would you tell us why you hang out on this channel day-after-day without contributing anything ? | Nov 02 18:08 |
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| _doug | ping benJIman: what's your opinion on the '1st openSUSE Board Election' ? | Nov 02 18:11 |
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| _doug | openSUSE Elects Community Board .. | Nov 02 18:18 |
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| _doug | http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxpla... | Nov 02 18:18 |
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| _doug | benJIman: any thought on the subject ? | Nov 02 18:18 |
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| _doug | "the Software may Not Be Sold, Transferred, or further distributed Without prior written authorization From Novell" | Nov 02 18:22 |
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| _doug | Novell Pre-Release Software License Agreement .. EULA.txt. | Nov 02 18:23 |
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| _doug | PetroKRaus: OpenSuSE opens up to non-Novell employees .. | Nov 02 18:24 |
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| _doug | http://news.cnet.com/83... | Nov 02 18:24 |
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| _doug | "You may make and distribute unlimited copies of the Software outside Your organization provided that: 1) You receive no consideration" | Nov 02 18:25 |
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| _doug | http://lwn.net/Articles/283566/ | Nov 02 18:25 |
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| _doug | movie quote quiz .. | Nov 02 18:37 |
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| _doug | me first :] | Nov 02 18:37 |
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| _doug | "I like the French .. they taste of Chicken" | Nov 02 18:37 |
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| _doug | answer .. ? | Nov 02 18:38 |
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| _doug | last chance ... ? | Nov 02 18:39 |
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| _doug | ................ | Nov 02 18:39 |
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| _doug | .. | Nov 02 18:39 |
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| _doug | . | Nov 02 18:39 |
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| _doug | answer: Hannibal Lecter | Nov 02 18:40 |
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| twitter | Vista and Vista 7 are M$'s M$ killer | Nov 02 18:41 |
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| _doug | what's the question ? | Nov 02 18:41 |
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| twitter | is Vista 7 a GNU/Linux killer? | Nov 02 18:41 |
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| twitter | you asked | Nov 02 18:42 |
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| twitter | the world already answered | Nov 02 18:42 |
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| _doug | movie quiz #2: | Nov 02 18:44 |
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| _doug | in what movie did both 'Christopher Walken' and 'James Gandolfini' appear in and they both 'sang' ? | Nov 02 18:44 |
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| _doug | 30 seconds .. | Nov 02 18:44 |
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| _doug | 20 seconds .. | Nov 02 18:45 |
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| _doug | 10 seconds | Nov 02 18:45 |
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| _doug | + or - :) | Nov 02 18:46 |
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| _doug | 5 secs | Nov 02 18:46 |
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| _doug | 4 | Nov 02 18:46 |
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| _doug | 3 | Nov 02 18:46 |
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| _doug | 2 | Nov 02 18:46 |
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| _doug | 0 | Nov 02 18:46 |
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| _doug | -1 | Nov 02 18:46 |
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| _doug | just kidding .. | Nov 02 18:46 |
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| _doug | answer: 'Romance & Cigarettes' | Nov 02 18:46 |
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| _doug | Christopher Walken as Cousin Bo: Roe... was my first love, I traced her name in cow shit, she was my first, my last, my everything | Nov 02 18:47 |
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| _doug | Cousin Bo: Only with Roe. With other chicks, I'm Barry White... I go to the meat market | Nov 02 18:47 |
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| _doug | :] | Nov 02 18:47 |
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| _doug | wanna see something really weird .. ? | Nov 02 18:49 |
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| _doug | 'Eddie Izzard' does an impression of 'Christopher Walken' | Nov 02 18:50 |
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| _doug | http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=JF1ANz... | Nov 02 18:50 |
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| _doug | WalkenTheWalk .. http://walkenthewalk.com/ | Nov 02 18:52 |
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| _doug | movie quote quiz #3: "a special tree qrows hidden, the tree of life, they say whover drinks of its sap will ive for ever" | Nov 02 19:08 |
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| _doug | last chance ... | Nov 02 19:10 |
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| _doug | http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Ex... | Nov 02 19:10 |
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| _doug | gtg .. it's been interesting .. about as interesting as watching your toenails grow ... | Nov 02 19:11 |
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| schestowitz | I'll do a quick post about Microsoft + Vista 7 laptops. _doug seems to have gotten frustrated... | Nov 02 20:17 |
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| twitter | thanks, _doug did not have much to say | Nov 02 20:23 |
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| twitter | There's a confused article about EEEPC in Slashdot. One thing is sure, Asus and or Xandros have been screwed. http://www.digitimes.com... | Nov 02 20:25 |
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| twitter | Asus is shipping 7 XP netbooks for every 3 Linux netbooks | Nov 02 20:25 |
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| twitter | Good luck finding and buying a GNU/Linux EEEPC now. M$ choice is always buy M$ or nothing. | Nov 02 20:26 |
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| schestowitz | twitter: he's impatient. | Nov 02 20:33 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft gives Windows away.. almost for free now... it can't keep up with Free software this way. It needs income and Office is under similar threat of margins going slim, due to SaaS and F/OSS. | Nov 02 20:36 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft seems to have disseminated Vista 7 only among its fans. http://www.informationweek.com/blog/main/ar... | Nov 02 20:45 |
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| twitter | Ah the gift of Vista. Anger too is a gift. | Nov 02 20:46 |
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| schestowitz | More FUD from the Vole. | Nov 02 20:48 |
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| schestowitz | "The cross-platform reach of .NET and Silverlight development does not natively extend to Linux clients, which Microsoft says are too limited a niche to warrant dedicated development." | Nov 02 20:48 |
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| schestowitz | Too limited, eh? | Nov 02 20:48 |
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| schestowitz | Like... they can run on thousands of processors? | Nov 02 20:49 |
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| schestowitz | They are used by Hollywood studios and on mission-critical desktops? | Nov 02 20:49 |
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| schestowitz | Further it says: "Microsoft has outsourced that effort, offering technical support to the open source Mono and Moonlight projects headed by Miguel de Icaza and sponsored by SuSE Linux vendor Novell." | Nov 02 20:49 |
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| schestowitz | Source? Microsoft press, of course: http://reddevnews.com/news/devnews/ar... | Nov 02 20:49 |
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| twitter | Where does that Infoweek article say anything about only giving Vista 7 to friends? | Nov 02 20:50 |
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| twitter | I read something about 6,000 people paying their ticket for a DVD with critical flaws. | Nov 02 20:51 |
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| schestowitz | twitter: I got the impression that early builds were given to Microsoft's slected one. | Nov 02 20:53 |
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| schestowitz | Although I think an alpha is out there in torrent now. Either way, it's mostly Microsoft blogs that spread the word about Vista 7. That's not impartial. | Nov 02 20:53 |
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| schestowitz | Their aim is to raise expectations so that business do not depart from Windows altogether. | Nov 02 20:55 |
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| twitter | All of that is par for the course. | Nov 02 20:56 |
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| schestowitz | The audio here is good: http://broadcast.oreilly.com/2008/10/h... Worth blogging about (or one for your journal)... it busts myths. | Nov 02 20:57 |
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| twitter | cool | Nov 02 21:00 |
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| schestowitz | No charges but US may never release Guantánamo Chinese < http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/... > | Nov 02 21:04 |
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| schestowitz | Linux hater talks about LinuxHater: http://www.itwire.com/content... | Nov 02 21:09 |
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| schestowitz | Matthew Garrett: http://mjg59.livejournal.com... | Nov 02 21:22 |
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| twitter | ITWire, "I firmly believe that Windows is the better choice for most people today." ?!!! | Nov 02 21:26 |
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| twitter | This has to be satire, " Windows is easier to install, easier to use, has the widest range of consumer, business and gaming software, has the widest hardware compatibility and much nicer people to help you when things go wrong. " | Nov 02 21:26 |
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| schestowitz | It's not a satire. He hates Linux. | Nov 02 21:30 |
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| twitter | That's not hate, it's ignorance. | Nov 02 21:30 |
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| twitter | There's one thing the SLOG.DOC reinforces more than anything else. M$ is dead without community support. Their whole business model is about harvesting the work of others. | Nov 02 21:32 |
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| schestowitz | Yes, that predates the Slog Doc. | Nov 02 21:32 |
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| twitter | If community makes software worth while, the community might as well chose software that's free. | Nov 02 21:34 |
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| schestowitz | My post number 4441 < http://boycottnovell.com/2008/08/31... > possibly explains the white-collar crime with an example. The developers wish to share the loot with the criminal org. It's like fish attaching themselves to a shark. | Nov 02 21:41 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft needs developers and user lockin. That's why they possess medical data now. Think SGI. Bankruptcy protection. | Nov 02 21:42 |
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| schestowitz | A friend of mine wrote earlier: "So basically the hypothetical threat is that, should MS go under, all of MS data format specifications become assets tied up in court while debtors fight against each other. I'd expect they'd unite from time to time to prevent someone else from using these 'assets'. Yet another reason why open standards, like ODF, are a good strategy." | Nov 02 21:42 |
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| GoblinRFD | hello, everyone! Roy it was a great article today. | Nov 02 22:11 |
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| schestowitz | Hey there. | Nov 02 22:14 |
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| schestowitz | GoblinRFD: which one? | Nov 02 22:14 |
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| schestowitz | The last one was crap. I wrote it quickly with juvenile language. | Nov 02 22:14 |
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| GoblinRFD | I liked it! (maybe thats my mentality!) | Nov 02 22:15 |
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| GoblinRFD | the MS laptops scam one | Nov 02 22:15 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/Wh... "Item: Companies don’t hire people. People hire people." < http://www.techflash.com/microsoft/Micros... > "Ozzie, a software pioneer known for creating Lotus Notes, joined Microsoft in 2005. " | Nov 02 22:15 |
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| GoblinRFD | Have you heard, over here in the UK the BBC is looking at an open source project for delivering DRM free material? | Nov 02 22:16 |
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| schestowitz | They lied about DRM | Nov 02 22:20 |
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| GoblinRFD | DId they? | Nov 02 22:20 |
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| schestowitz | They got slammed so badly that they ra away to Flash, which was a compromise. Suddetly, the need for DRM became a lie. | Nov 02 22:21 |
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| GoblinRFD | ah. | Nov 02 22:21 |
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| schestowitz | There's lots about it in BN. http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=... | Nov 02 22:21 |
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| GoblinRFD | I should have known! I am happy though that they are giving more exposure to the open source scene. | Nov 02 22:22 |
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| GoblinRFD | LOL, is there any subject related to MS/Novell or opensource you havent covered!!!!!! - Its a sweet site! | Nov 02 22:25 |
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| schestowitz | I am looking at past things these days. | Nov 02 22:27 |
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| schestowitz | Prior to the deal. | Nov 02 22:27 |
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| schestowitz | Groklaw does the same, looking at SCO/Caldera in the 90s. | Nov 02 22:27 |
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| schestowitz | I'm finding some interesting Microsoft/Novell stories at the moment, inc. blackmail, corruption, money laundering, etc. | Nov 02 22:28 |
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| schestowitz | Now it's the time to 'do some old laundry'... or bring back old sins. | Nov 02 22:28 |
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| GoblinRFD | Ill look forward to them!!! | Nov 02 22:29 |
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| GoblinRFD | Ive got many of my collegues interested at work in your blog. | Nov 02 22:29 |
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| GoblinRFD | Unfortunately at work I am tied to using MS packages. | Nov 02 22:29 |
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| GoblinRFD | Home is 100% MS free though. | Nov 02 22:30 |
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| schestowitz | MicrotIAA sends out the hounds: http://www.dawn.com/weekly/scienc... "In a recent crackdown, BSA (Business Software Alliance), representing business software publishers in 65 countries, swooped down on a large business concern that was using illegal software, and fined them a whopping Rs3.5 million." | Nov 02 22:30 |
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| schestowitz | That's the minor stuff. I ahev uglier ones. | Nov 02 22:31 |
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| schestowitz | One thing that needs doing is chronological organisation of items (by topic). With 4000+ posts, it's hard to find a good archive. | Nov 02 22:31 |
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| GoblinRFD | yeah agreed. | Nov 02 22:31 |
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| schestowitz | One thing that would be helpful.. | Nov 02 22:32 |
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| schestowitz | If ever you do some reading of old posts, then you can put the URLs in a sensible order that tells a story and send them over to build an index | Nov 02 22:32 |
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| schestowitz | I have a picture in my head, but for people who are new to this, the picture is not complete. | Nov 02 22:32 |
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| GoblinRFD | yeah Ill give it a go. I have a little time on my hands monday, Ill make a start, and if its ok, Ill continue on. | Nov 02 22:33 |
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| schestowitz | Cool, thanks. | Nov 02 22:34 |
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| schestowitz | I need to make better search facilities too. | Nov 02 22:34 |
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| schestowitz | OK, I've just added a Google search bix. http://boycottnovell.com/ | Nov 02 22:38 |
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| schestowitz | Two wide though, I'll rescale the box. | Nov 02 22:39 |
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| benJIman | 'quite frankly, I really find the whole notion of Linux as being "against Microsoft" to be silly and wrong-headed.' | Nov 02 23:38 |
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| benJIman | [Linus] | Nov 02 23:38 |
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| MinceR | "Really, I'm not out to destroy Microsoft. That will just be a completely unintentional side effect." | Nov 02 23:46 |
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| schestowitz | Linus is disguised regarding some issue. He's beginning to catch up with non-technical issues though (e.g. swpats) | Nov 02 23:47 |
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| MinceR | i'm waiting for him to catch up with GPLv3 | Nov 02 23:48 |
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| schestowitz | Alax Cox already has. http://www.google.com/custom?q=... | Nov 02 23:51 |
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| schestowitz | BS%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fschestowitz.c om%3BFORID%3A1%3B&hl=en | Nov 02 23:51 |
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| schestowitz | http://tinyurl.com/5f76gc | Nov 02 23:51 |
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| MinceR | google says it doesn't exist | Nov 02 23:52 |
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| MinceR | ( Island Not Found in the Pirate language.) | Nov 02 23:52 |
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| schestowitz | Try this: http://www.google.com/search?sourcei... | Nov 02 23:53 |
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| schestowitz | [It's a good way to watch many posts based on topic/name] | Nov 02 23:53 |
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| MinceR | ic | Nov 02 23:54 |
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| MinceR | that's good new | Nov 02 23:54 |
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| MinceR | another issue is the flame regarding full disclosure. | Nov 02 23:54 |
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| MinceR | s/new/news/ | Nov 02 23:57 |
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| schestowitz | Which disclosure? | Nov 02 23:57 |
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| MinceR | there was a flame on some mailing list that got publicity (even on /.) where linus said (iirc) that it's a goal not to allow simple grepping of changelogs or whatever to reveal security-critical patches | Nov 02 23:58 |
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| schestowitz | When was that? | Nov 02 23:59 |
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