| schestowitz | Google FUD: "Apparently ye average innocuous search - ie "how big is my carbon footprint?" - produces 7g of CO2 whilst a boiling kettle generates about 15g. Don't even get us started on Googling WHILST drinking a cuppa." http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/35... | Jan 12 18:28 |
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| schestowitz | Why don't they say how much pollution Microsoft generates for running such services that almost nobody uses??? | Jan 12 18:28 |
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| schestowitz | It's similar to yesterday's Greenpeace message, which Wintel press only uses to target Microsoft competitors while ignoring Microsoft. | Jan 12 18:29 |
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| schestowitz | Not Quite The Full Story On The Environmental Impact Of Google Searches < http://techdirt.com/articles/200901... > | Jan 12 18:30 |
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| schestowitz | Seagate CEO jumped ship: Seagate replaces CEO < http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/01... > | Jan 12 18:45 |
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| schestowitz | Dixon's Web site is down... but it runs Apache, so...... | Jan 12 18:45 |
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| schestowitz | let the remixes begin (UPDATED) < http://www.lessig.org/blog/2009/01/le... > | Jan 12 18:48 |
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| schestowitz | Colbert is an idiot | Jan 12 18:50 |
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| tessier_ | Colbert from the Colbert Report? Or some other Colbert? | Jan 12 18:55 |
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| schestowitz | *LOL* http://www.penny-lane.com/sk/Colclough%20-%20Pl... | Jan 12 18:56 |
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| schestowitz | This is great! | Jan 12 18:56 |
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| schestowitz | tessier: he's giving Lessig a hard time. Watch it. | Jan 12 18:56 |
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| schestowitz | http://duckdown.blogspot.com/2009/01/random-thou... | Jan 12 18:58 |
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| tessier_ | Colbert is a comedian. It's his job. | Jan 12 18:59 |
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| schestowitz | I know, but he disrupted Lessig's message a lot... he didn't get to get the point across, IMHO | Jan 12 19:03 |
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| schestowitz | http://opendotdotdot.blogspot.com/2009/0... "Is Google Running Short of Hackers? - How hard can it be porting Chrome to GNU/Linux? Hard, apparently..." MinceR's gonna love this.. | Jan 12 19:03 |
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| MinceR | they should have designed it on a multiplatform library, like any clueful software engineering would | Jan 12 19:04 |
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| MinceR | sadly, google has a dire shortage of clueful software engineers | Jan 12 19:04 |
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| schestowitz | They hire from MS | Jan 12 19:04 |
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| schestowitz | That's what I was told wrt thing like Picasa (DirectX) and some ActiveX stuff they put on the Web | Jan 12 19:04 |
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| MinceR | lol | Jan 12 19:05 |
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| MinceR | s/ing// | Jan 12 19:05 |
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| MinceR | elsewhere i've read that they've managed to move off WinHTTP already | Jan 12 19:05 |
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| schestowitz | They have a good future ahead of them. | Jan 12 19:06 |
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| schestowitz | I couldn't help but think how frantic MJF and other professional MS fans must be... when I saw her blog earlier | Jan 12 19:06 |
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| schestowitz | Some years ago they bothered writing about the company's criminal activities because they felt some complacency. Now they are just MS salespeople with blogs. | Jan 12 19:07 |
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| schestowitz | Pro-mafia Facebook pages cause alarm in Italy << http://www.reuters.com/article/technol... >> | Jan 12 19:09 |
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| *PeterKraus is now known as PetoKraus | Jan 12 19:14 |
| PetoKraus | considering freenode runs gentoo | Jan 12 19:15 |
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| PetoKraus | the maintenance downtime was quite quick | Jan 12 19:15 |
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| schestowitz | Maybe they compiled on a test box | Jan 12 19:17 |
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| PetoKraus | :) | Jan 12 19:18 |
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| trmanco | http://www.iowamicrosoftcase.com/ | Jan 12 19:41 |
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| tessier_ | Speaking of class actions... | Jan 12 19:42 |
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| tessier_ | I received a letter in the mail. I didn't notice it was addressed to a previous owner of the house (some 10+ years ago) until after I had already opened and read it. It was a class action suit settlement check. For $10. Whoopie-freakin-doo. | Jan 12 19:43 |
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| tessier_ | I've received one of those before also. I forget what for. But I got just a few bucks out of it. | Jan 12 19:43 |
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| tessier_ | I've never known anyone who made anything more than enough to buy dinner with from a class action suit. The lawyers sure cleaned up though. | Jan 12 19:44 |
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| trmanco | :-P | Jan 12 19:44 |
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| trmanco | LOL | Jan 12 19:45 |
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| trmanco | msn got back online | Jan 12 19:45 |
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| trmanco | wait, maybe I'm dreaming | Jan 12 19:45 |
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| trmanco | no I'm not | Jan 12 19:46 |
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| trmanco | it is back online | Jan 12 19:46 |
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| trmanco | yep, people can confirm this | Jan 12 19:48 |
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| trmanco | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pidg... se the latest comments | Jan 12 19:48 |
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| trmanco | see* | Jan 12 19:48 |
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| trmanco | crappy servers :| | Jan 12 19:48 |
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| schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com/2009/01/12/msn-goes... | Jan 12 19:49 |
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| trmanco | LOL | Jan 12 19:50 |
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| trmanco | nice one | Jan 12 19:50 |
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| schestowitz | Wow. A lot of people sure noticed this. | Jan 12 19:50 |
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| trmanco | yes | Jan 12 19:50 |
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| trmanco | and it was not a pidgin issue, it was a server side issue | Jan 12 19:51 |
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| trmanco | the pidgin devs said this | Jan 12 19:51 |
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| schestowitz | But was it affecting just Pidgin users? | Jan 12 19:51 |
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| trmanco | no | Jan 12 19:51 |
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| schestowitz | MSN too? | Jan 12 19:51 |
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| trmanco | purple based IM?s | Jan 12 19:51 |
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| schestowitz | Ahh.. | Jan 12 19:51 |
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| trmanco | no | Jan 12 19:51 |
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| schestowitz | What's Purple for? | Jan 12 19:51 |
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| trmanco | the proprietary program works | Jan 12 19:51 |
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| schestowitz | Orange for IM? ;-) | Jan 12 19:51 |
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| schestowitz | Wow. Linux news sure got quiet | Jan 12 19:52 |
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| schestowitz | Many of the sites that typically report are quiet, BUT BUT BUT... it applies to all news, AFAICT | Jan 12 19:52 |
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| schestowitz | It's like journalistic Depression or sumthin'; | Jan 12 19:52 |
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| schestowitz | So it's good that I have Comes stuff. See if you can find typos in what I posted 5 mins ago | Jan 12 19:53 |
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| trmanco | http://developer.pidgin.im/wik... | Jan 12 19:53 |
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| PetoKraus | purple is backend | Jan 12 19:55 |
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| PetoKraus | ah, there's the link :) | Jan 12 19:56 |
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| trmanco | I can't access it | Jan 12 19:56 |
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| trmanco | don't know why | Jan 12 19:56 |
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| schestowitz | Heh. | Jan 12 19:57 |
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| schestowitz | Rough day. | Jan 12 19:57 |
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| schestowitz | Also for FreeNode | Jan 12 19:57 |
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| trmanco | but pidgin.im works | Jan 12 19:58 |
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| trmanco | weird | Jan 12 19:58 |
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| PetoKraus | i love how the ubuntu folk doesn't believe upstream | Jan 12 20:04 |
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| schestowitz | Ubuntu is not linux is not gnu is not x ;-) | Jan 12 20:07 |
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| trmanco | I can't say anything in the pidgin channel | Jan 12 20:07 |
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| trmanco | :| | Jan 12 20:07 |
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| trmanco | they haven't been warned, look at the topic | Jan 12 20:08 |
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| schestowitz | Blankenhorn feeds the Novell FUDsters... http://blogs.zdnet.com/open-source/?p=3276 | Jan 12 20:09 |
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| trmanco | ha done :) | Jan 12 20:09 |
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| schestowitz | Are they using Windows??/ http://boycottnovell.com/2009/01/12/msn-... | Jan 12 20:11 |
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| schestowitz | I doubt it. | Jan 12 20:11 |
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| trmanco | schestowitz, yes | Jan 12 20:11 |
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| trmanco | I'll give you a header | Jan 12 20:11 |
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| schestowitz | hehe. | Jan 12 20:12 |
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| schestowitz | You never command in BN | Jan 12 20:12 |
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| schestowitz | *comment | Jan 12 20:12 |
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| *schestowitz can't spell while talking on phone.. | Jan 12 20:12 |
| trmanco | I'm s little shy | Jan 12 20:14 |
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| trmanco | 20:15:09) soap: current HTTP/1.1 200 OK | Jan 12 20:14 |
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| trmanco | Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 20:15:07 GMT | Jan 12 20:14 |
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| trmanco | Server: Microsoft-IIS/6.0 | Jan 12 20:14 |
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| schestowitz | Segway inventor wants to know: When should I quit? < http://edition.cnn.com/2009/LIVING/workl... > | Jan 12 20:14 |
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| trmanco | X-Powered-By: ASP.NET | Jan 12 20:14 |
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| trmanco | X-AspNet-Version: 2.0.50727 | Jan 12 20:14 |
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| trmanco | there you go | Jan 12 20:15 |
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| trmanco | ok I'll comment | Jan 12 20:17 |
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| schestowitz | I just have | Jan 12 20:19 |
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| trmanco | http://boycottnovell.com/2009/01/12/msn-g... | Jan 12 20:20 |
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| trmanco | oops | Jan 12 20:20 |
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| trmanco | 1 minute faster schestowitz | Jan 12 20:20 |
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| schestowitz | :-) | Jan 12 20:21 |
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| Omar87 | Hey all | Jan 12 20:22 |
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| Omar87 | schestowitz: I heard that MS servers couldn't handle the Windows 7 beta downloaders. | Jan 12 20:22 |
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| Omar87 | schestowitz: And that there were no more than 2 milion downloaders. | Jan 12 20:23 |
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| twitter | They tried to spin it as massive demand. I can't imagine 2 million. | Jan 12 20:23 |
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| twitter | They did their best to encourage people - they said that only 2.5 million could have one, so that even causal observers would try to get one to avoid fake scarcity. | Jan 12 20:25 |
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| Omar87 | twitter: But as someone told me, that MS servers failed to handle this load, how true is this? | Jan 12 20:26 |
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| twitter | When the "big demand" hit, they pulled the plug, screaming "there's too much demand." Five people could have hit it and the same result would have come out. | Jan 12 20:26 |
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| trmanco | LOL | Jan 12 20:26 |
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| twitter | There's no telling what's true or not when you are talking to a liar like M$. | Jan 12 20:26 |
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| trmanco | ... | Jan 12 20:26 |
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| Omar87 | twitter: That's 100% true. :) | Jan 12 20:27 |
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| trmanco | nice one >> "When the "big demand" hit, they pulled the plug, screaming "there's too much demand." Five people could have hit it and the same result would have come out." | Jan 12 20:27 |
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| Omar87 | :) | Jan 12 20:27 |
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| Omar87 | Everything will be revealed when Vista 7 is out. | Jan 12 20:28 |
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| Omar87 | And after that, they will have no chance to lie. | Jan 12 20:28 |
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| twitter | Something resembling truth may come out in five years in either the next anti-trust suit or shareholder lawsuits from the failed company. They you will be able to read their emails and see what they thought, or at least told each other. | Jan 12 20:29 |
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| twitter | *Then | Jan 12 20:29 |
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| Omar87 | As their lies won't work at all, since the consumer is gonna try it for himself and if he's not satisfied then that's it. | Jan 12 20:29 |
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| twitter | Kennedy had an early look at the mess and declared it Vista. | Jan 12 20:30 |
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| twitter | I'm not sure how many people they will be able to sucker into trying it next time. | Jan 12 20:30 |
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| twitter | Vista was such a burn, you would think people would be shy now. | Jan 12 20:31 |
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| twitter | M$ probably pulled the 2.5 and 2 million numbers out of news about Firefox and OO downloads. It's doubtful as many people would be interested in something that would take as much work as a Vista install without some good reviews. | Jan 12 20:32 |
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| twitter | Right now, the reviews are mixed at best. | Jan 12 20:32 |
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| twitter | Roy got the fake demand story right on target the other day. | Jan 12 20:32 |
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| PetoKraus | well | Jan 12 20:33 |
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| PetoKraus | i have got mixed feelings | Jan 12 20:33 |
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| twitter | do share | Jan 12 20:34 |
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| schestowitz | You can't judge it, either | Jan 12 20:34 |
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| PetoKraus | i might be interested in trying the software | Jan 12 20:34 |
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| schestowitz | "it's just a betaVista" | Jan 12 20:34 |
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| schestowitz | Vista7, i hereby call you betavista | Jan 12 20:34 |
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| schestowitz | Vista minus the stability plus some gui thingies | Jan 12 20:34 |
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| twitter | and compatibility with some Vista applications - some reward for the M$ faithful eh? | Jan 12 20:35 |
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| schestowitz | Actually, since Vista 7 does not even exist yet (Microsoft wants to create the illusion that it does), it ought be be called BetaVista 7 | Jan 12 20:35 |
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| schestowitz | So.. | Jan 12 20:35 |
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| schestowitz | It's Beta | Jan 12 20:35 |
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| schestowitz | It's Vista | Jan 12 20:35 |
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| schestowitz | It's 7 | Jan 12 20:35 |
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| schestowitz | Now put it all together | Jan 12 20:35 |
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| twitter | Vista Beta 7, one for each year of development? | Jan 12 20:36 |
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| schestowitz | They still work on improving XP | Jan 12 20:36 |
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| schestowitz | It's like Coca Cola trying to improve | Jan 12 20:36 |
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| twitter | you misspelled "selling" | Jan 12 20:36 |
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| schestowitz | It makes Cherry and New Coke... then runs away to Classic before it's dead. | Jan 12 20:36 |
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| twitter | DRM, the HFCS of software. | Jan 12 20:37 |
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| twitter | Promotes bloat, kills your computer. | Jan 12 20:37 |
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| twitter | I wonder if the HFCS Coke will survive Depression 2.0 http://finance.google.com/finance | Jan 12 20:38 |
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| PetoKraus | yeah | Jan 12 20:39 |
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| PetoKraus | sugar's been laid aside | Jan 12 20:39 |
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| schestowitz | Because of Intel | Jan 12 20:40 |
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| tessier_ | What a mess. :( | Jan 12 20:41 |
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| tessier_ | I really hope OLPC can get its act together. | Jan 12 20:41 |
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| tessier_ | I'll be bummed if I spent $400 and gave a couple of kids laptops that aren't going anywhere. | Jan 12 20:41 |
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| schestowitz | Save $400 on Intel chips then. Avoid them. ;-) | Jan 12 20:43 |
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| schestowitz | A triple-boot system with GRUB: Debian GNU/Linux "Lenny", FreeDOS 1.0, and Windows 98SE < http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/columns... >. Don't people know that Win98 is zombie-happy platform? | Jan 12 20:43 |
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| PetoKraus | it's for games | Jan 12 20:44 |
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| schestowitz | "After doing a lot of other things while Visaster SP2 (Windows 7) installed" http://community.zdnet.co.uk/blog/0,10000... I remember saying "Visaster" like two years ago | Jan 12 20:44 |
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| schestowitz | [H]omer called it MEII and Charlie from the Inquirer 'borrowed' his name | Jan 12 20:45 |
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| schestowitz | PetoKraus: yes, that's what the crackers say | Jan 12 20:45 |
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| PetoKraus | well | Jan 12 20:45 |
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| PetoKraus | but i wanna play my mechwarrior 2! | Jan 12 20:45 |
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| schestowitz | It's like a game of Risk with botnets | Jan 12 20:45 |
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| tessier_ | http://www.xconomy.com/seattle/2009/01/12/mi... | Jan 12 20:49 |
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| tessier_ | Despite the economy, he says, Amazon and Microsoft “seem to be really hiring in full swing” on the MIT campus. | Jan 12 20:49 |
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| PetoKraus | two 10" pizzas and i'm full | Jan 12 20:49 |
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| tessier_ | WTF? Are they hiring or are they laying off? Are they booming or teetering on disaster? I'm so confused! | Jan 12 20:49 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7222 (Google Chrome Dumps WinHTTP, Linux Version Inevitable) | Jan 12 20:50 |
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| PetoKraus | first year student | Jan 12 20:50 |
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| PetoKraus | can't know a ***k | Jan 12 20:50 |
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| twitter | talk is cheap and many companies visit universities more for PR reasons than hiring. | Jan 12 20:50 |
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| trmanco | chrome more "open source" | Jan 12 20:50 |
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| PetoKraus | Words are worthless cause they're free | Jan 12 20:51 |
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| PetoKraus | says Josh Homme | Jan 12 20:51 |
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| twitter | I worked at a fortune 100 company and saw this from the inside. Everyone wanted to put on their best face for the world. | Jan 12 20:51 |
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| schestowitz | Students are cheaper | Jan 12 20:52 |
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| twitter | That too. | Jan 12 20:52 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft also opened some centers in China last year | Jan 12 20:52 |
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| schestowitz | IBM in India.. | Jan 12 20:52 |
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| schestowitz | They fire in the US, then they can hire where it's cheaper | Jan 12 20:52 |
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| schestowitz | But Microsoft-Abramoff used corruption to also import cheap labour | Jan 12 20:52 |
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| twitter | But students are not always cheaper if the company has kept salaries up with inflation. | Jan 12 20:53 |
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| PetoKraus | actually i lied | Jan 12 20:53 |
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| schestowitz | Instead of colonies they do the equivalent of buying slavery or doing wage slavery as it's called | Jan 12 20:53 |
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| PetoKraus | the proper quote is: "Words are weightless here on earth because they're free" | Jan 12 20:53 |
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| *PetoKraus hides in shame | Jan 12 20:53 |
| PetoKraus | the most funny part is | Jan 12 20:54 |
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| PetoKraus | that I guess I violated copyright by using that phrase... it's lyrics, therefore it's covered by some strange and insane copyright law | Jan 12 20:54 |
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| tessier_ | PetoKraus: Don't sing happy birthday in a public place. | Jan 12 20:54 |
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| PetoKraus | why? | Jan 12 20:54 |
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| PetoKraus | is it ۩ as well? | Jan 12 20:55 |
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| schestowitz | Not enforced | Jan 12 20:59 |
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| schestowitz | What happens if you do it in a stadium or TV, I wonder... | Jan 12 20:59 |
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| PetoKraus | here's a bit of fun from slovakia: http://www.ceskenoviny.cz/news/ind... | Jan 12 21:00 |
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| PetoKraus | our Prime Minister is a Tough Guyâ⢠| Jan 12 21:00 |
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| schestowitz | Does Hotmail expire accounts after a perdiod of inactivity? | Jan 12 21:06 |
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| PetoKraus | schestowitz: i am not aware of that | Jan 12 21:09 |
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| schestowitz | I've just tried logging in with a 5+ year-old account that I needed to create to talk to this girl (she used MSN and I was reluctant to join of course). ikickedbillgates@hotmail.com is no longer on their system. ;-) | Jan 12 21:10 |
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| twitter | maddoff avoids jail http://www.guardian.co.uk/busines... | Jan 12 21:11 |
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| schestowitz | Gasp | Jan 12 21:11 |
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| schestowitz | Corrupt rich people can get away with mur.. genocide | Jan 12 21:11 |
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| schestowitz | You still have some of them around the White House, so.. | Jan 12 21:11 |
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| PetoKraus | maddox has new article | Jan 12 21:12 |
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| PetoKraus | oh man, he owns | Jan 12 21:12 |
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| schestowitz | He should get Chair | Jan 12 21:12 |
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| schestowitz | Not chairman of NASDAQ | Jan 12 21:12 |
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| twitter | CES attendance down 23% | Jan 12 21:13 |
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| twitter | http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgat... | Jan 12 21:13 |
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| schestowitz | Only in America.. shoplift some tomatoes cause you're hungry, get arrested. Steal from millions of people, get a slap on the wrist | Jan 12 21:14 |
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| twitter | Wow, here's a bomb for you, " Most personal-computer makers aren't expecting Microsoft Corp.'s (MSFT) new Windows 7 operating system software to provide much of a sales spark when it debuts later this year, an influential investment analyst says." | Jan 12 21:14 |
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| twitter | http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/... | Jan 12 21:14 |
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| schestowitz | CES is dead on.. or dead | Jan 12 21:14 |
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| twitter | so much for the hype demand | Jan 12 21:14 |
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| schestowitz | Alll those extravagant shows remind me of Hollywood. | Jan 12 21:14 |
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| twitter | ->PC makers aren't holding out much hope because they "feel burned by Vista," | Jan 12 21:15 |
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| schestowitz | Tortured horse, explosions, wrecked cars and 150-million-dollar budget for a film that can't match something simple with romanticism | Jan 12 21:15 |
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| schestowitz | "debuts later this year"? | Jan 12 21:16 |
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| schestowitz | That's BS | Jan 12 21:16 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft denied/decline to confirm this | Jan 12 21:16 |
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| schestowitz | Vapourware classics | Jan 12 21:16 |
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| twitter | Big picture, Vista 7 is stillborn. | Jan 12 21:16 |
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| schestowitz | Windows Vapourware... in 2 years... (2003) | Jan 12 21:16 |
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| twitter | no one is ramping up for it. | Jan 12 21:16 |
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| twitter | M$ credibility is zero for the whole industry. | Jan 12 21:17 |
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| schestowitz | http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=b9ifQvQCO7Y | Jan 12 21:17 |
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| schestowitz | Lots of work on faking stuff and making mockups | Jan 12 21:17 |
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| **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jan 12 21:23:51 2009 |
| *Now talking on #boycottnovell | Jan 12 21:23 |
| *Topic for #boycottnovell is: "Exploring the reality behind exclusionary deals with Microsoft and their subtle (yet severe) implications" [publicly logged] | Jan 12 21:23 |
| *Topic for #boycottnovell set by schestowitz at Sun Oct 5 19:20:28 2008 | Jan 12 21:23 |
| -ChanServ-[#boycottnovell] Welcome to the #boycottnovell channel | Jan 12 21:23 |
| *ChanServ gives channel operator status to schestowitz | Jan 12 21:24 |
| trmanco | 7 review -> http://gulma.homelinux.org/wordpress/?p=1493 | Jan 12 21:26 |
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| trmanco | but not that "7" | Jan 12 21:26 |
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| trmanco | in PT btw | Jan 12 21:26 |
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| twitter | That Longhorn video is some trashy. | Jan 12 21:30 |
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| twitter | October 2003, LMAO. | Jan 12 21:31 |
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| schestowitz | CES 2009! http://www.raiden.net/?cat=2&ai... | Jan 12 21:32 |
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| trmanco | http://lwat.blogspot.com/2009/01/goog... | Jan 12 21:33 |
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| twitter | http://slashdot.org/firehose.pl?op... | Jan 12 21:34 |
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| schestowitz | Wow, so 7 *is* out... not 7.1? | Jan 12 21:37 |
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| twitter | It's interesting how the "Longhorn" desktop mockup looks a lot like the Vista Beta 7 desktop. | Jan 12 21:37 |
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| schestowitz | Check this out: http://www.channelinsider.com/c/a/News/Di... | Jan 12 21:39 |
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| schestowitz | Someone just buzzed me about it | Jan 12 21:39 |
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| schestowitz | Guess who 'won'? | Jan 12 21:39 |
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| schestowitz | Numero uno: http://boycottnovell.com/wp-content/upload... | Jan 12 21:40 |
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| schestowitz | Maybe BN will become BM[icrosoft] some time soon... assuming Microsoft buys Novell | Jan 12 21:40 |
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| schestowitz | Which is becoming more liekly all the time | Jan 12 21:40 |
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| schestowitz | I'll do a post to explain why. Other people have said the same for ages | Jan 12 21:41 |
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| twitter | Congratulations, your EDGI story is /. FP material, 2009-01-10 17:20:58 How M$ Beats GNU/Linux in Schools. (Your Rights Online,Microsoft) (accepted) | Jan 12 21:44 |
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| schestowitz | Oh oh. | Jan 12 21:53 |
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| schestowitz | /.? | Jan 12 21:54 |
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| *schestowitz makes db backup | Jan 12 21:54 |
| trmanco | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5oGaZIKYvo | Jan 12 21:55 |
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| schestowitz | We endured /, effects (not Digg) and this one is a large page though. | Jan 12 21:56 |
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| schestowitz | I'll use Corral if it does not respons. | Jan 12 21:57 |
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| schestowitz | I'll use Corral if it does not respond. | Jan 12 21:57 |
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| schestowitz | trmanco: is he talking about Zune? | Jan 12 21:57 |
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| trmanco | schestowitz, yeah | Jan 12 21:57 |
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| trmanco | and millions of million of million of phones a year | Jan 12 21:58 |
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| trmanco | ... whatever | Jan 12 21:58 |
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| schestowitz | What page is references, twitter? | Jan 12 21:59 |
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| schestowitz | *renced | Jan 12 21:59 |
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| trmanco | http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxpla... | Jan 12 21:59 |
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| schestowitz | Look how he twisted the headline on the old article | Jan 12 22:00 |
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| schestowitz | Made it anti OOo | Jan 12 22:00 |
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| schestowitz | Showing his true colours | Jan 12 22:00 |
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| schestowitz | Subheadline: "Sun and OOo Are Dying--Again" | Jan 12 22:00 |
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| schestowitz | twitter: which page is cited? | Jan 12 22:03 |
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| twitter | I got the acceptance news when submitting. It should turn up on the front page sooner or later. | Jan 12 22:03 |
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| schestowitz | But which page is refrenced? | Jan 12 22:04 |
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| schestowitz | I need to divert it to Corral | Jan 12 22:04 |
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| twitter | let me dig it up | Jan 12 22:04 |
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| twitter | http://slashdot.org/firehose.pl?op=... | Jan 12 22:05 |
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| twitter | points to http://boycottnovell.com/2009/01/10/ed... | Jan 12 22:05 |
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| twitter | and http://boycottnovell.com/2009/01/04/mic... | Jan 12 22:05 |
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| twitter | and http://boycottnovell.com/2007/08... | Jan 12 22:05 |
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| schestowitz | Thanks. | Jan 12 22:05 |
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| twitter | you are welcome. I can't say what, if any, of those links will show up. | Jan 12 22:05 |
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| schestowitz | I needed to apologise to the host before... | Jan 12 22:06 |
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| schestowitz | It can't take these things well | Jan 12 22:06 |
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| trmanco | http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.d... | Jan 12 22:07 |
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| twitter | Sounds like they should apologize to you. | Jan 12 22:07 |
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| twitter | but I understand their point of view. | Jan 12 22:07 |
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| schestowitz | It doesn't redirect for some reason | Jan 12 22:10 |
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| schestowitz | Hmm.. I can't get the redirect to work | Jan 12 22:13 |
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| twitter | here it is. http://news.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=... | Jan 12 22:17 |
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| schestowitz | .htaccess won't let me redirect: http://boycottnovell.com.nyud.net:8080/200... | Jan 12 22:17 |
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| schestowitz | " Not subscriber, or not subscribed page" | Jan 12 22:18 |
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| schestowitz | If you follow the links, e.g. http://boycottnovell.com/2009/01/..., it won't move to /boycottnovell.com.nyud.net:8080, will it? | Jan 12 22:18 |
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| twitter | I don't know. Looks like it did before. | Jan 12 22:20 |
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| schestowitz | When? | Jan 12 22:21 |
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| schestowitz | Did it redirect for you earlier? | Jan 12 22:21 |
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| twitter | no | Jan 12 22:21 |
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| schestowitz | Oh. | Jan 12 22:21 |
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| schestowitz | Ah! | Jan 12 22:22 |
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| schestowitz | Got it | Jan 12 22:22 |
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| schestowitz | Missing slashes | Jan 12 22:22 |
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| schestowitz | Try now | Jan 12 22:22 |
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| twitter | redirect ... slow but there. | Jan 12 22:23 |
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| schestowitz | Cool. | Jan 12 22:23 |
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| schestowitz | Better slow than down | Jan 12 22:23 |
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| schestowitz | And down means down... maybe for half a day and trouble from the host | Jan 12 22:23 |
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| schestowitz | I've become afarid of these sites | Jan 12 22:23 |
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| schestowitz | And the page you cite is like 500kb per pageview | Jan 12 22:23 |
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| twitter | That's where the info is. Glad you got it hooked up. | Jan 12 22:24 |
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| schestowitz | So for 20,000 visits that can be almost a megabyte each assuming others stay and explore other pages | Jan 12 22:24 |
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| twitter | It was lucky I saw it. | Jan 12 22:24 |
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| schestowitz | Keep an eye in case Corel falls on us. It screwed badly before. | Jan 12 22:24 |
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| schestowitz | it's in FP | Jan 12 22:41 |
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| schestowitz | Coral caoughed on the Quinn link so I had to remove the redirect | Jan 12 22:42 |
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| schestowitz | "Peter" is misspelled BTW | Jan 12 22:42 |
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| schestowitz | They fixed the typo | Jan 12 22:54 |
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| twitter | typo :) | Jan 12 23:00 |
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| schestowitz | Slashdot is broken right now | Jan 12 23:00 |
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| twitter | Now I can't see the story. I get an error, "The network link was interrupted while negotiating a connection. Please try again." | Jan 12 23:00 |
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| schestowitz | Almost anything you click gives an error | Jan 12 23:00 |
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| twitter | ah | Jan 12 23:00 |
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| schestowitz | This has gone on since you made FP | Jan 12 23:00 |
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| schestowitz | No story can be viewed | Jan 12 23:00 |
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| schestowitz | Even the poll widgets gives an error | Jan 12 23:01 |
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| twitter | coincidence? | Jan 12 23:01 |
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| schestowitz | Naa.. | Jan 12 23:01 |
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| schestowitz | Steve threw a chair at em ;-) | Jan 12 23:01 |
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| twitter | He might have. | Jan 12 23:01 |
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| schestowitz | I checked my RSS feeds | Jan 12 23:01 |
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| schestowitz | Those new items don't appear yet | Jan 12 23:01 |
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| schestowitz | Slashdot has halted | Jan 12 23:01 |
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| schestowitz | I guess it's not too bad as long as top story is this one | Jan 12 23:02 |
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| twitter | No, it's bad that the story won't get the attention it deserves. | Jan 12 23:02 |
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| twitter | The editors will move along. | Jan 12 23:02 |
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| schestowitz | No comment. :-) | Jan 12 23:02 |
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| schestowitz | I don't mind because it's not something I control or can prevent. | Jan 12 23:03 |
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| schestowitz | From my POV, if I miss /my/ chance to prevent my server from going AWOL, then I have myself to blame | Jan 12 23:03 |
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| schestowitz | As for Slashdot, well... | Jan 12 23:03 |
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| twitter | Crime can never be prevented. | Jan 12 23:03 |
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| schestowitz | Same with the global ecnomy | Jan 12 23:03 |
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| schestowitz | It doesn't matter how you feel about it or do about it (or pray for something), it is a problem of 6 billion people. | Jan 12 23:04 |
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| twitter | subscribers were able to see the story, so the fail came shortly after. | Jan 12 23:07 |
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| twitter | Slashdot is back. Story is subscriber only or gone. | Jan 12 23:10 |
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| *kapipi has quit (Remote closed the connection) | Jan 12 23:10 |
| twitter | It must have been a big chair. | Jan 12 23:11 |
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| schestowitz | Probably queued | Jan 12 23:11 |
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| schestowitz | No, if it was censorship, they wouldn't break the /whole/ site | Jan 12 23:12 |
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| schestowitz | Maybe they resorted from bckup | Jan 12 23:12 |
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| schestowitz | Internal Server Error | Jan 12 23:12 |
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| schestowitz | No, they are still f* | Jan 12 23:12 |
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| schestowitz | No new comments and error if you try to view stories. | Jan 12 23:12 |
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| twitter | Could have been external censorship - the chair throw. | Jan 12 23:12 |
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| schestowitz | "Please contact the server administrator, pater@slashdot.org and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error." | Jan 12 23:12 |
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| schestowitz | Na.. unlikely | Jan 12 23:13 |
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| schestowitz | Remember Wikileaks | Jan 12 23:13 |
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| schestowitz | DNS block or something | Jan 12 23:13 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.zmag.org/znet/vi... | Jan 12 23:13 |
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| schestowitz | "On February 18, bloggers reported the unprecedented attempt by Bank Julius Baer to censor the Wikileaks.org web site by having a San Francisco judge issue a restraining order telling the web site's domain name registrar to stop Wikileak.org from pointing to its actual IP address, 88.80.13.160. " | Jan 12 23:14 |
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| *trmanco has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) | Jan 12 23:14 |
| schestowitz | ". This was the first know instance of a court shutting down an entire web site. One Kafkaesque feature of this omnibus order is that the court order and other materials were ordered to be emailed to Wikileaks. But with the domain name Wikileaks.org abolished, no mail sent to them could get to anyone." | Jan 12 23:14 |
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| PetoKraus | welcome to the USA | Jan 12 23:15 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft paid Iowa how much? Hundreds of millions (undoclosed) just to stop this suit and lock their site for public access. | Jan 12 23:15 |
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| schestowitz | Shoot first, questions.. later | Jan 12 23:15 |
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| PetoKraus | where's wikileaks hosted? | Jan 12 23:15 |
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| schestowitz | Invade a country first... then check if it has WoMD. | Jan 12 23:15 |
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| schestowitz | PetoKraus: I dunno | Jan 12 23:16 |
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| PetoKraus | schestowitz: provided that your victim didn't buy AK47 at the newspaper stall as well | Jan 12 23:16 |
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| schestowitz | I can view /. stories now... but no new comments appeared for like 15 minutes | Jan 12 23:16 |
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| schestowitz | :-) | Jan 12 23:17 |
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| schestowitz | It usually takes some phonecalls and a personal with a handle on the interwebbies | Jan 12 23:17 |
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| schestowitz | *person | Jan 12 23:17 |
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| PetoKraus | how much traffic does one /. attack generate? | Jan 12 23:18 |
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| twitter | . | Jan 12 23:18 |
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| twitter | cat did that | Jan 12 23:18 |
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| schestowitz | cat? | Jan 12 23:19 |
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| schestowitz | PetoKraus: depends on the appeal of the story | Jan 12 23:19 |
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| twitter | yes, my cat stepped on the "." and return key. | Jan 12 23:19 |
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| schestowitz | And prominence of link too, time of day, etc. | Jan 12 23:19 |
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| MinceR | cats rule | Jan 12 23:19 |
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| MinceR | gn | Jan 12 23:20 |
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| schestowitz | cat5 | Jan 12 23:20 |
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| twitter | good night | Jan 12 23:20 |
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| twitter | @MinceR | Jan 12 23:20 |
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| twitter | I'll be up for a while | Jan 12 23:20 |
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| schestowitz | No new comments in /. | Jan 12 23:20 |
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| PetoKraus | gn | Jan 12 23:20 |
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| schestowitz | Still froze^H^H^Hroken | Jan 12 23:20 |
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| PetoKraus | twitter: so you are beranger! | Jan 12 23:20 |
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| MinceR | schestowitz: cat five from userfriendly? :) | Jan 12 23:20 |
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| schestowitz | I left Beranger | Jan 12 23:20 |
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| schestowitz | He blogs Winders | Jan 12 23:20 |
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| PetoKraus | windaes | Jan 12 23:21 |
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| schestowitz | Wind~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~ 1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1 | Jan 12 23:21 |
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| twitter | ha ha. | Jan 12 23:21 |
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| *trmanco (n=trmanco@online.na.tuxSP.pt) has joined #boycottnovell | Jan 12 23:21 |
| twitter | Here's a comment. http://boycottnovell.com/2009/01/10/vista-7-hyp... | Jan 12 23:21 |
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| schestowitz | Prince "Jihad" | Jan 12 23:21 |
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| twitter | Robber barron. | Jan 12 23:21 |
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| schestowitz | Gates may have used the word "Jihad" again | Jan 12 23:21 |
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| tessier_ | http://www.seldo.com/weblog/2009/01/1... | Jan 12 23:22 |
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| tessier_ | You guys might get a kick out of that | Jan 12 23:22 |
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| schestowitz | I have quite a collection of his pen wisdom | Jan 12 23:22 |
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| schestowitz | Good one, tessier . | Jan 12 23:23 |
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| schestowitz | The story is back in //. FP | Jan 12 23:24 |
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| schestowitz | Comments still don't work | Jan 12 23:24 |
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| twitter | cool | Jan 12 23:24 |
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| schestowitz | 6 comments | Jan 12 23:25 |
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| schestowitz | OK | Jan 12 23:25 |
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| twitter | Now I'm going to do something gross. I'm going to look at microsoft.com | Jan 12 23:25 |
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| twitter | that's enough of that. | Jan 12 23:25 |
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| schestowitz | I wonder how many comments are from MS marketing people whom I was told about (it's a fact)? | Jan 12 23:26 |
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| MinceR | he gets it wrong -- m$ is not a software company, m$ is a marketing company | Jan 12 23:28 |
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| schestowitz | The resident trolls like G Michaels are there. | Jan 12 23:28 |
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| schestowitz | Also a law firm | Jan 12 23:29 |
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| schestowitz | Because bullying and guerrilla marketing are pushing the envelope, so one must cope with judges or tire them relentlessly (or have them kicked out a la Jackson) | Jan 12 23:29 |
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| tessier_ | schestowitz: You could start a service offering to correlate the IP addresses of blog posters from other peoples forums with addresses of known trolls on your forums to see who is making the rounds. | Jan 12 23:34 |
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| schestowitz | Isn't it topic dependent? | Jan 12 23:35 |
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| schestowitz | Two trolls that I label in red (there are only 3) hope between IPs. | Jan 12 23:35 |
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| schestowitz | I've just realise that I coral-ed the URLs before disabling comments | Jan 12 23:36 |
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| schestowitz | So if Slashdot people try to comment in the cites articles they send their comment to an abyss. Oops. | Jan 12 23:36 |
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| schestowitz | *cited | Jan 12 23:36 |
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| PetoKraus | wheeee | Jan 12 23:42 |
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| PetoKraus | :) me like abbys | Jan 12 23:42 |
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| twitter | It will be good for the likes of G. | Jan 12 23:43 |
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| schestowitz | G? | Jan 12 23:43 |
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| schestowitz | Oh, the comments.. | Jan 12 23:44 |
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| schestowitz | LOL | Jan 12 23:44 |
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| schestowitz | Like Dan and other, he spends /hours/ on some days just writing insults (comments) | Jan 12 23:44 |
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| twitter | Must be a full time job for them. | Jan 12 23:44 |
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| PetoKraus | Well I use to stand for something Now I'm on my hands and knees Trading in my god for this one and he signs his name with a capital G | Jan 12 23:45 |
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| twitter | The days they are not on BN, they are somewhere else. | Jan 12 23:45 |
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| PetoKraus | it's funny how all the powerful people have "G" | Jan 12 23:45 |
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| PetoKraus | Gates, George W, God | Jan 12 23:45 |
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| twitter | goatse | Jan 12 23:45 |
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| twitter | The spinners are all over the comments in the EDGI story. "It's not dumping," amazing bullshit. | Jan 12 23:46 |
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| twitter | dinner time. | Jan 12 23:47 |
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| schestowitz | That's another story... | Jan 12 23:50 |
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| schestowitz | James P and the "technical evangelists" | Jan 12 23:50 |
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| schestowitz | They keep busy to earn "mindshare" | Jan 12 23:50 |
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