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| schestowitz | Few of them actually TRIED it | May 02 18:06 |
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| I'm also very selective in quoting so as not to clog up people's mail boxes with duplicate crap. | May 02 18:06 | |
| _Hicham_ | twitter : fuck Outlook, vive Thunderbird | May 02 18:06 |
| schestowitz | They follow the herd of bribes people | May 02 18:06 |
| I like kmail. | May 02 18:06 | |
| schestowitz | and MVPs and all | May 02 18:06 |
| schestowitz | And W-E is watcing this | May 02 18:06 |
| schestowitz | Probably taking dissent to the side like they all did with Surface | May 02 18:06 |
| Reputable reporters won't bother writing anything about vaporware. | May 02 18:06 | |
| schestowitz | That's just how they work | May 02 18:06 |
| schestowitz | Divide and Conquer, PR PR PR | May 02 18:07 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : if i had money, i would bribe reporters to make them say good things about Linux | May 02 18:07 |
| _Hicham_ | this IE7 is crappy | May 02 18:07 |
| Sure, WE will also punish people with short leads. Remember all that stuff about breaking embargos a while back? | May 02 18:07 | |
| IE is crappy. | May 02 18:08 | |
| schestowitz | twitter: check how people respond to formal reviews | May 02 18:08 |
| _Hicham_ | i get a corruption everytime i zoom the page | May 02 18:08 |
| You don't need to bribe people to tell the truth. | May 02 18:08 | |
| schestowitz | You give contextT | May 02 18:08 |
| schestowitz | Then address points in turn | May 02 18:08 |
| schestowitz | It's easy | May 02 18:08 |
| _Hicham_ | well, the truth must have supporters | May 02 18:08 |
| _Hicham_ | commercial supporters | May 02 18:09 |
| I usually give context in my own words. | May 02 18:09 | |
| _Hicham_ | liek RedHat | May 02 18:09 |
| schestowitz | I'm at least watching it | May 02 18:09 |
| schestowitz | We must explain how it works | May 02 18:09 |
| It's more to the point. | May 02 18:09 | |
| _Hicham_ | and Canonical at some point | May 02 18:09 |
| schestowitz | Then make cohesive work in the Wiki | May 02 18:09 |
| schestowitz | Let's flash out the 'meat' of this first | May 02 18:09 |
| schestowitz | later organise and use this examples | May 02 18:09 |
| schestowitz | That's how CMD (SourceWatch) does this | May 02 18:09 |
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| schestowitz | _Hicham_: fair point re: Red Hat | May 02 18:10 |
| schestowitz | Oh, he's gone | May 02 18:10 |
| schestowitz | Or maybe IE7 crashecd :-D | May 02 18:10 |
| likely | May 02 18:10 | |
| schestowitz | Maybe forced reboot | May 02 18:10 |
| schestowitz | âââ¬(18:10 $)âââ¬> uptime | May 02 18:10 |
| schestowitz | 18:10:37 up 59 days, 3:29, 2 users, load average: 0.84, 0.78, 0.82 | May 02 18:10 |
| WE network filter | May 02 18:10 | |
| schestowitz | I once sent some IPs to check if WE eavesdrop on us | May 02 18:11 |
| schestowitz | A friend wanted to see and check | May 02 18:11 |
| schestowitz | But I disposed of logs | May 02 18:11 |
| schestowitz | It's WE's job to spy on coverage | May 02 18:11 |
| schestowitz | Even TWITS | May 02 18:11 |
| You know that BN is Bill Gate's favorite news service | May 02 18:11 | |
| schestowitz | And they use analysers to pinpoint troublemakers | May 02 18:11 |
| schestowitz | Then Microsoft gets instructions on who to call, fly over for a visit, etc | May 02 18:12 |
| then troll, harass and "guide" | May 02 18:12 | |
| schestowitz | twitter: a friend at the gym has just joked with me about assassination attempts or something | May 02 18:12 |
| not funny | May 02 18:12 | |
| schestowitz | I know | May 02 18:12 |
| schestowitz | But he's a funny guy | May 02 18:12 |
| schestowitz | Always happy. I gave him the site's address 2 hours ago | May 02 18:13 |
| no, he's just part of our violent culture. | May 02 18:13 | |
| schestowitz | It's interesting to test the rewaction of people who are TOTALLY new to this | May 02 18:13 |
| schestowitz | People who don't know what Linux is. | May 02 18:13 |
| trmanco | omg | May 02 18:13 |
| schestowitz | "Windows 7 Gets Its Own Web Site" | May 02 18:13 |
| schestowitz | So they all write about somehting they NEVER used | May 02 18:14 |
| schestowitz | Exclusives and fake 'leaks' | May 02 18:14 |
| trmanco | just checking some old emails, how I wrote back then and how I write right now... omg... | May 02 18:14 |
| schestowitz | Free laptops flying | May 02 18:14 |
| schestowitz | And they just go about yapping while MS PR is managing this circus | May 02 18:14 |
| schestowitz | Annoying. | May 02 18:14 |
| schestowitz | trmanco: yes, it's interesting | May 02 18:14 |
| schestowitz | Writing style change over time | May 02 18:14 |
| schestowitz | Vocabularies too | May 02 18:14 |
| People who have not used free software for a few months lack perspective. They project their crappy experience onto everything. Free software sounds too good to be true. | May 02 18:15 | |
| M$ capitalizes on this ignorance with lots of "you get what you pay for" bullshit. | May 02 18:15 | |
| and smear | May 02 18:15 | |
| I got it here the other day from deamonFC who imagines that hard work and diligence on his part will overcome Window's unique security problems. | May 02 18:17 | |
| He thought that Apple was little better than Windoze and that the main problem was the user. | May 02 18:18 | |
| and the old popularity argument kept coming up. | May 02 18:18 | |
| schestowitz | PR is the issue | May 02 18:19 |
| schestowitz | Had Linux had PR it would show snazzy desktops | May 02 18:19 |
| schestowitz | Gusarding the image of Linux | May 02 18:20 |
| Telling people that I've made my family happy running nothing but free software for the better part of a decade seems to make an impact in person. | May 02 18:20 | |
| schestowitz | Many people think of Linux as Brown | May 02 18:20 |
| GNU/Linux does have snappy desktops now. | May 02 18:20 | |
| schestowitz | Microsoft also characterrising the users/devs as people in basements. | May 02 18:20 |
| schestowitz | This is not accidental | May 02 18:20 |
| more smear | May 02 18:20 | |
| schestowitz | They use PR theory in reverse | May 02 18:20 |
| it's not working. | May 02 18:20 | |
| schestowitz | IT does | May 02 18:20 |
| schestowitz | SOme people think FOSS is bad | May 02 18:20 |
| I see cracks. | May 02 18:21 | |
| schestowitz | Even those who use Firefox | May 02 18:21 |
| schestowitz | They don't know it's FOSS | May 02 18:21 |
| schestowitz | We live in a world of imposed illusion | May 02 18:21 |
| schestowitz | The first important step is admitting | May 02 18:21 |
| Vista's failure is widening the cracks | May 02 18:21 | |
| schestowitz | *this | May 02 18:21 |
| schestowitz | Why do you think many people voted Obama and not Hillary? | May 02 18:21 |
| Oh, I understand their poisoned perspective. | May 02 18:21 | |
| schestowitz | It's all PR campaigns | May 02 18:21 |
| schestowitz | The policies are pretty much the same over the years | May 02 18:22 |
| schestowitz | Just slight deviations | May 02 18:22 |
| there is little difference between O and H | May 02 18:22 | |
| schestowitz | Obama vs Clinton is like Mac vs PC | May 02 18:22 |
| RMS backed a democrat with a better record. | May 02 18:22 | |
| schestowitz | One is young | May 02 18:22 |
| schestowitz | The other perceived as corrupt and boring | May 02 18:22 |
| schestowitz | RMS backs Nader | May 02 18:22 |
| schestowitz | But after Bush he preferred Dems | May 02 18:22 |
| Nader would have been better, but RMS spoke well of Kucinich (sp) | May 02 18:23 | |
| schestowitz | Yes | May 02 18:23 |
| schestowitz | I like that chap too | May 02 18:23 |
| schestowitz | He hates corruption | May 02 18:23 |
| schestowitz | And he's not shy talking about it | May 02 18:23 |
| both would have been god | May 02 18:23 | |
| schestowitz | They need more of that | May 02 18:23 |
| good | May 02 18:23 | |
| oh yes. | May 02 18:23 | |
| schestowitz | But such guys get smeared out of chance to be nominated | May 02 18:23 |
| schestowitz | The stupid population too is turned off | May 02 18:23 |
| the power of smear is going away thanks to the internet | May 02 18:24 | |
| schestowitz | Have Paul mention the great depression and people will vote for WHAT THEY WANT To beliueve | May 02 18:24 |
| schestowitz | As if it's a self-fulfilling prophecy | May 02 18:24 |
| schestowitz | Want good economy? | May 02 18:24 |
| they can't "reach" people without broadcast. | May 02 18:24 | |
| schestowitz | Vote for the guy who was trained to repeat words like "hope" and "propsperity" and "children" | May 02 18:24 |
| a good economy follows good ethics. | May 02 18:24 | |
| schestowitz | Want a "strong" leader.. strong like a truck? | May 02 18:24 |
| no thanks | May 02 18:25 | |
| schestowitz | Then vote for Palin and McBush | May 02 18:25 |
| that party sold itself out trading with China. | May 02 18:25 | |
| schestowitz | Broadcast=busienss | May 02 18:25 |
| schestowitz | Corruption=busienss | May 02 18:25 |
| schestowitz | I'm not saying busienss=Corruption | May 02 18:25 |
| schestowitz | Although it can | May 02 18:25 |
| schestowitz | But corruption comes from busienss | May 02 18:26 |
| schestowitz | So they'll give air time to those who support them | May 02 18:26 |
| schestowitz | Support looting (aka bailout) | May 02 18:26 |
| corruption ruins business | May 02 18:26 | |
| schestowitz | Support dergulation | May 02 18:26 |
| schestowitz | Support STUPID Friedmanites (free market my arse) | May 02 18:26 |
| schestowitz | "Curtis is also a fan of the open-source encyclopedia Wikipedia and writes: "Wikipedia and the Linux kernel are two of the best examples that free software and the free exchange of ideas can create superior things without any licensing fees. The mere existence of these gigantic products, without a gigantic company behind them, is proof that proprietary software is doomed."" | May 02 18:27 |
| schestowitz | http://www.wwj.com/B-ham-Nativ... B'ham Native, Ex-Microsoft Exec, Argues For Open Source | May 02 18:27 |
| schestowitz | Worth pushing in Slashdot | May 02 18:27 |
| schestowitz | "Curtis' ideas about software are heresy for a former Microsoft Corp. executive. He says the days of proprietary software are numbered and companies like Microsoft are likely doomed -- and that free open-source-code software will eventually run the world." | May 02 18:28 |
| schestowitz | We mailed each other a few times. He contacted me. | May 02 18:28 |
| schestowitz | How is this praise/newsworthy? http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news... http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blo... | May 02 18:34 |
| schestowitz | In other news, Yoggie the bear has halted farting | May 02 18:34 |
| schestowitz | Apple 1 Microsoft 0 in the profit stakes < http://www.tone.co.nz/news/4900/ap... > | May 02 18:38 |
| schestowitz | The Apple vs Windows/MS articles are useless | May 02 18:38 |
| schestowitz | Are people supposed to be excited by one bad company replacing a worse and far more criminal one? | May 02 18:38 |
| schestowitz | What ever happend to ethics? | May 02 18:39 |
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| schestowitz | Mcirosoft to Buy Some Blog Posts Praising Microsoft and/or Windows http://uk.sys-con.com/node/9... | May 02 18:42 |
| schestowitz | Mad Hatter mentioned The Examiner earlier. I've always felt like it was a Microsoft fan site based on what they publish. Just out: http://www.examiner.com/x-1676-SF... | May 02 18:43 |
| schestowitz | XCONOMY http://www.seattlepi.com/xconom... | May 02 18:50 |
| schestowitz | So XCONOMY is plating ball for Microsoft. I can't recall if they are related to the publication Mad Hatter mentioned | May 02 18:51 |
| schestowitz | Global Dispatches: Sony Ericsson cuts 2000 more jobs < http://www.computerworld.com/action/articl... > | May 02 18:57 |
| schestowitz | http://www.businessweek.com/magazin... "The search giant hopes to counter charges of monopoly abuse with a charm offensive " Does Google ABUSE its monopoly? | May 02 18:59 |
| schestowitz | Another boot licker: iLink To Co- sponsor And Present at the Upcoming Microsoft Developer Conference at NewYork http://www.powerhomebiz.com/... | May 02 19:05 |
| schestowitz | amarsh04: the O'Gara shill writes: "Microsoft Cuts $3b Cloud Deal with EDS" If Maureen says something about Microsoft, I guess she knows. :-) | May 02 19:14 |
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| schestowitz | EMC kisses with Ballmer again (Joe Tucci): Microsoft Exchange 2007 and EMC SourceOne: Unifying Platforms for Compliance, Storage Management and User Productivity < http://entmag.com/techlibrary/resour... > | May 02 19:17 |
| schestowitz | The type is already totally GONE from this nonsense: http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Messaging-and... "Microsoft has launched a new social Web application that one observer is calling the equivalent of Twitter plus Facebook on steroids." | May 02 19:26 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft Posts First Quarterly Profit Decline < http://www.financierworldwide.com/ar... > | May 02 19:28 |
| schestowitz | Funny that they say nothing about Microsoft losing $18 billion in 1998 | May 02 19:28 |
| schestowitz | IDG loves to troll. That's why it warped SJVN's headline and reposted: Microsoft, R.I.P. < http://www.pcworld.com/business... > | May 02 19:31 |
| I'm almost as sick of the phrase "on steroids" as I am of the phrase "going forward" | May 02 19:34 | |
| schestowitz | Yeah, I hate people who take em too | May 02 19:35 |
| schestowitz | I just found out about another one this afternoon | May 02 19:35 |
| schestowitz | A friend of mine who played national rugby | May 02 19:35 |
| schestowitz | Turns out he doped too | May 02 19:35 |
| schestowitz | I once argued online against steroids in some forums and got death wishes by E-mail for it | May 02 19:36 |
| roid rage, lol | May 02 19:37 | |
| schestowitz | Yes, I know! :-) | May 02 19:37 |
| ask Arnold and his quad bypass | May 02 19:37 | |
| schestowitz | The two friends I had who were taking that shit are no longer on it | May 02 19:37 |
| schestowitz | Which is good | May 02 19:37 |
| schestowitz | Actually, the rugby-playing friend also quit this sh*t. he's training to be a pilot now | May 02 19:38 |
| schestowitz | Mister McBain can afford bypassing. | May 02 19:38 |
| it is good that people quit doping | May 02 19:38 | |
| schestowitz | Other just pass away when they are half his age | May 02 19:38 |
| schestowitz | twitter: some get their first shock and quit | May 02 19:38 |
| schestowitz | Like a friend of mine who passed out | May 02 19:38 |
| schestowitz | Better small than dead | May 02 19:39 |
| that's quite a shock | May 02 19:39 | |
| schestowitz | I equate this to silicon boobs sometimes | May 02 19:39 |
| schestowitz | Women create fauz standards | May 02 19:39 |
| schestowitz | Like, look at bodybuilding contests | May 02 19:39 |
| schestowitz | The whole thing is a contest for who can enchew the most hormones | May 02 19:39 |
| don't blame women for it | May 02 19:40 | |
| schestowitz | [or who can survuvice before going on stage] | May 02 19:40 |
| schestowitz | Some people collapse on stage | May 02 19:40 |
| schestowitz | twitter: I don't blame women | May 02 19:40 |
| schestowitz | Blame showbiz to an extent | May 02 19:40 |
| schestowitz | The TV for example created artificial urges | May 02 19:40 |
| schestowitz | Like consumerism, fashion, sex, money, alcohol. | May 02 19:40 |
| hmmmm, "(11:51:37 AM) schestowitz: Women create fauz standards" | May 02 19:40 | |
| schestowitz | It's hard for people to escape that control that's mental. Very hrd | May 02 19:41 |
| schestowitz | Esp. hard for people who crash ont he couch after a hard day's work | May 02 19:41 |
| yes | May 02 19:41 | |
| schestowitz | *faux | May 02 19:41 |
| schestowitz | typo | May 02 19:41 |
| I parse | May 02 19:41 | |
| schestowitz | Another thing is braces | May 02 19:41 |
| schestowitz | We all have braces don't we? | May 02 19:41 |
| schestowitz | Like 50% of the kids in the 'west' | May 02 19:42 |
| schestowitz | Those who don't are then made 'sub-standard', where standard is something artificial | May 02 19:42 |
| straight teeth have more than cosmetic benefits | May 02 19:42 | |
| schestowitz | The flawed-by-birth basline | May 02 19:42 |
| schestowitz | *baseline | May 02 19:42 |
| teeth that line up correctly last longer | May 02 19:42 | |
| schestowitz | OK | May 02 19:42 |
| that's good for people | May 02 19:43 | |
| schestowitz | It's still a modification | May 02 19:43 |
| schestowitz | Unlike a corrective one, e.g. hernia | May 02 19:43 |
| so is having rotten teeth pulled | May 02 19:43 | |
| schestowitz | Eeeeeeew.. | May 02 19:43 |
| braces can help prevent the damage before it happens | May 02 19:43 | |
| schestowitz | Well, my teeth are still in perfect shape [knock on wood] | May 02 19:44 |
| I look forward to having my teeth in good working order for most of my life, my nice long life. | May 02 19:44 | |
| schestowitz | Microsoft is still denying MS phone | May 02 19:44 |
| schestowitz | Humans could probably do without teeth | May 02 19:45 |
| schestowitz | In a modern age | May 02 19:45 |
| schestowitz | Monumental: Microsoft Windows, Office profits slip again < http://www.itvoir.com/portal/boxx/... > | May 02 19:45 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft somehow hid the decline of XBox | May 02 19:46 |
| schestowitz | Its lackeys came out with praises for XBox results | May 02 19:46 |
| schestowitz | Finally I look closer and find out they wound up in a LOSS!!!!!! | May 02 19:46 |
| schestowitz | After so many quarters of huge LOSSES | May 02 19:46 |
| schestowitz | "Mixed results for Microsoft." says one headline. No, these are _bad_ results | May 02 19:47 |
| schestowitz | "Mixed" is what reporters say when they fear saying something negative | May 02 19:48 |
| schestowitz | Very typical | May 02 19:48 |
| schestowitz | It's bad, but........ we managed to find something decent, so overall we shall call it "mixed" | May 02 19:48 |
| they believe that M$ is making rather than losing billions each quarter. | May 02 19:48 | |
| M$ is probably lying about real losses. | May 02 19:49 | |
| schestowitz | A cup of crap is not bad.. it's "mixed"... cause it may contain nutrients. | May 02 19:49 |
| schestowitz | For all I know they play a massive game | May 02 19:49 |
| schestowitz | Part of the pyramic scheme and maybe a debt game | May 02 19:49 |
| schestowitz | Smithers says they lost 18 billion in 2998 | May 02 19:50 |
| schestowitz | How well could they do in 1999 | May 02 19:50 |
| schestowitz | c'mon | May 02 19:50 |
| schestowitz | *1998 | May 02 19:50 |
| They had a cash pile back then, we think. | May 02 19:50 | |
| schestowitz | The mass closure of units should provide a clue.. There's spinning out of equilibrium | May 02 19:50 |
| They have admitted to depleting that cash pile now. | May 02 19:50 | |
| schestowitz | Microsoft is like the guy with the Ferraro and the boat | May 02 19:50 |
| schestowitz | You envy thy neighbour with the boat and luxury car | May 02 19:51 |
| schestowitz | Then one day some people pay a visit and take out the TV, the bed, everything! | May 02 19:51 |
| until they have to sell it all, ha ha. | May 02 19:51 | |
| schestowitz | Turns out that Mr. Successful just had many credit cards from fraud-happy bankers | May 02 19:51 |
| we shall see. the decline in M$ propaganda is a good sign. | May 02 19:51 | |
| schestowitz | *Ferrari (typo) | May 02 19:51 |
| Either they don't have their message straight, or they are really out of money. | May 02 19:52 | |
| schestowitz | Windows Vista 7 is free now | May 02 19:52 |
| schestowitz | How well can they do? | May 02 19:52 |
| schestowitz | Intel says they have a steep challenge charging for Windows fanchise | May 02 19:52 |
| schestowitz | Google Apps scared the bejesus out of them. | May 02 19:53 |
| I wonder how many "software assurance" plans are not being renewed. | May 02 19:53 | |
| schestowitz | *franchise | May 02 19:53 |
| schestowitz | twitter: it was bad enough in 2007 | May 02 19:53 |
| schestowitz | Joe Wilcox covered it | May 02 19:53 |
| schestowitz | He called it the coming storm | May 02 19:53 |
| Wilcox is a spinner. | May 02 19:53 | |
| Reality is always worse than M$ tells you. | May 02 19:53 | |
| Worse for M$, that is. | May 02 19:54 | |
| schestowitz | "Netcraft: Microsoft Hosts Most Active Sites --- The report comes on the heels of Netcraft's most recent web server survey for April, which saw Apache as the most popular web server with a total of more than 106 million sites, followed by Microsoft-IIS's 67 million and QQ's nearly 29 million. ..." | May 02 19:54 |
| schestowitz | Article removed | May 02 19:54 |
| schestowitz | It's in my feeds reader | May 02 19:54 |
| neonfloss | nice new look schestowitz | May 02 19:54 |
| schestowitz | This may relate to my post about Netcraft selling out to Microsoft | May 02 19:54 |
| schestowitz | neonfloss: front page? | May 02 19:54 |
| not netcraft! | May 02 19:54 | |
| ahhhh! | May 02 19:54 | |
| schestowitz | I stopped citing them | May 02 19:55 |
| schestowitz | The reality is FAR worse for MS | May 02 19:55 |
| neonfloss | yea schestowitz | May 02 19:55 |
| schestowitz | Something like FOSS: 80%, MS: 15% | May 02 19:55 |
| neonfloss | the wikinspiration is nice :D | May 02 19:55 |
| schestowitz | neonfloss: cool. Some people hated it. Well, one person at least | May 02 19:55 |
| schestowitz | neonfloss: It'll grow over time | May 02 19:55 |
| schestowitz | I have plans for the wiki | May 02 19:55 |
| schestowitz | It's at least more informative to people who get sent there for wel....... boycott Novell | May 02 19:56 |
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| schestowitz | Better than being greetied with a page with a post about OpenSUSE, Microsoft layoffs and arbitrary FOSS links by the tonnes. | May 02 19:56 |
| neonfloss | it would be nice to have stories on front though | May 02 19:57 |
| neonfloss | and a new article only rss feed owuld be good :p | May 02 19:58 |
| schestowitz | I found alt' link for the netcraft stuff: http://www.thewhir.com/web-hosting... | May 02 19:59 |
| schestowitz | See what you think | May 02 19:59 |
| schestowitz | The NHS locks itself in, being a slave of Microsoft, as always: NHS email moves to Microsoft Exchange < http://www.vnunet.com/computing/news... > | May 02 20:00 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft is escaping tax through Ireland: http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/finan... | May 02 20:03 |
| schestowitz | @mohanpram Microsoft is selling many things at a loss, e.g. XP (netbooks carry kickbacks), XBox 360... | May 02 20:04 |
| schestowitz | [Just replied to this one person about XBox losses] | May 02 20:04 |
| schestowitz | "His class turned in a 15-page dossier that included not only Scalia's home address, home phone number and home value, but his food and movie preferences, his wife's personal e-mail address and photos of his grandchildren, reports Above the Law." http://www.schneier.com/blog/ar... | May 02 20:05 |
| schestowitz | They did the same to Google's CEO, Eric Schmidt | May 02 20:06 |
| schestowitz | The Internet ends a lot of privacy. If your Web browser has a PR toolbar, then Google has a copy of your history file (plus a lot more) | May 02 20:06 |
| schestowitz | And you can't ever delete this data, either. They don't offer this option | May 02 20:06 |
| schestowitz | U.S. Steps Up Effort on Digital Defenses < http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/2... > The USian army prepared to hijack people's PCs | May 02 20:07 |
| schestowitz | twitter: how about this for a headline? This is Your Windows on Drugs < http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2009/0... > They said "drugs", not "steroids" | May 02 20:26 |
| schestowitz | "And while Maritz last week talked about the danger of "lock-in" with proprietary systems from other vendors" (ODG) | May 02 20:31 |
| schestowitz | Look who's talking. Maritz was caught for his lockin crimes at Microsoft | May 02 20:31 |
| schestowitz | These people belong in jail but society does not lock up white-collar criminals, just shoplifters | May 02 20:31 |
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| schestowitz | Google hires goat army for lawn maintenance < http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/... > | May 02 20:38 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft has just dumped in Thailand | May 02 20:42 |
| schestowitz | Again | May 02 20:42 |
| schestowitz | http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2009/04/2... | May 02 20:42 |
| Windows on drugs. It kind of goes with the Conficker red tape story. | May 02 20:43 | |
| bad medicine | May 02 20:43 | |
| In that story, they say something like "these machines should never be connected to the internet," instead of the more reasonable, "these machines should never run a home desktop OS." | May 02 20:44 | |
| or "these machines should never run a second rate consumer OS like Windows." | May 02 20:44 | |
| mib_r7pngx | schestowitz: can't find the Microsoft/TomTom article. The link you gave on twitter is: http://ping.fm/fhq00 | May 02 20:44 |
| mib_r7pngx | Btw. I am Marti (the ML2MST) ;-) | May 02 20:45 |
| *bgtr4 is trying to imagine how many schools for thailand is 2k | May 02 20:46 | |
| schestowitz | mib_r7pngx: which article? | May 02 20:47 |
| schestowitz | Oh wait | May 02 20:47 |
| schestowitz | BTW there are no filters | May 02 20:47 |
| schestowitz | I was away when you cam earlier | May 02 20:48 |
| schestowitz | twitter: like zombies on drugs | May 02 20:48 |
| schestowitz | with their heads blowing up and all | May 02 20:48 |
| schestowitz | and attacking DNS | May 02 20:48 |
| schestowitz | marti, this is the post: http://boycottnovell.com/2009/05/02... | May 02 20:49 |
| Windows, your computer on bad drugs. The laughing toilet babies pretty much sums up the Windows 7 Story. | May 02 20:50 | |
| mib_r7pngx | schestowitz: the article about the M$/TomTom case. You wrote I as a Dutch man can do something against it. | May 02 20:50 |
| schestowitz | We need to find out Dutch law | May 02 20:50 |
| schestowitz | About TomTom and tax | May 02 20:50 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft is lying | May 02 20:50 |
| schestowitz | And you need to spread the message that TomTom paid very little | May 02 20:50 |
| mib_r7pngx | schestowitz: will do everything I can to help Free Software. | May 02 20:50 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft wants this information hidden | May 02 20:51 |
| schestowitz | The more you spread it, the more common on factoid it become. It's good for Linux. | May 02 20:51 |
| mib_r7pngx | schestowitz: Microsoft is _ALLWAYS_ lying :-p | May 02 20:51 |
| schestowitz | That the BizNiz(C) | May 02 20:51 |
| schestowitz | Where'e Slated when I writer this? | May 02 20:51 |
| schestowitz | *that's * write; | May 02 20:52 |
| bgtr4 | everybody is lying, but for m$ constant lying is a way of existance | May 02 20:52 |
| schestowitz | Clinton: "I did not have sex with that woman" | May 02 20:52 |
| not everyone is a liar. | May 02 20:52 | |
| schestowitz | Gates: "If you can't make it good, make it look good" | May 02 20:53 |
| schestowitz | Ballmer/Gates: Vista is a massive success | May 02 20:53 |
| schestowitz | "We sold XX copies" | May 02 20:53 |
| ha ha | May 02 20:53 | |
| back later dudes. | May 02 20:53 | |
| schestowitz | Do they keep track | May 02 20:53 |
| schestowitz | Or only for the month when they stuff channels? | May 02 20:53 |
| schestowitz | Same done with NPD (!! shills for hire !!) for xbox and zune | May 02 20:54 |
| schestowitz | Channel stuffing 101 | May 02 20:54 |
| schestowitz | They always use the same sequence of lies, for each product separately. | May 02 20:54 |
| schestowitz | It's like a cookbooks | May 02 20:54 |
| schestowitz | Like those JamesP lecture | May 02 20:54 |
| neonfloss | read last comment: http://download.cnet.com/8301-20... | May 02 20:54 |
| schestowitz | BTW he put a mug in his MSN SPace | May 02 20:54 |
| schestowitz | That's Microsoft's "theoretician" on astroturfing | May 02 20:54 |
| schestowitz | "I've heard from 2 different friends that Ubuntu has given them deadly virus' and I still am not convinced to download this 'OS'." | May 02 20:55 |
| schestowitz | FUD | May 02 20:55 |
| schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com/wp-conte... | May 02 20:56 |
| schestowitz | MS: "Ideally, use of the competing technology becomes associated with mental deficiency" | May 02 20:56 |
| schestowitz | http://www.cnet.com/profile/X_Jason_X/ "My latest comments (showing 1 of 1)" | May 02 20:56 |
| schestowitz | Well, welll... | May 02 20:57 |
| schestowitz | New account, one comment.... | May 02 20:57 |
| schestowitz | Comment says: ""I've heard from 2 different friends that Ubuntu has given them deadly virus' and I still am not convinced to download this 'OS'." | May 02 20:57 |
| schestowitz | call me a paranoid, but this could be a flamer, an MS partner, or an astrofluffer | May 02 20:57 |
| mib_r7pngx | bgrt4: not all people are liars. Free Software Activist in general are the opposite of liars. | May 02 20:57 |
| mib_r7pngx | bgrt4: that's why we get personally attacked all the time by Microsoft Astroturfers. | May 02 20:58 |
| schestowitz | Last magnet lowered into Large Hadron Collider < http://www.itwire.com/conte... > | May 02 20:59 |
| schestowitz | mib_r7pngx: what are you, MAD? | May 02 20:59 |
| schestowitz | [Tardon quark] | May 02 20:59 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft: "Ideally, use of the competing technology becomes associated with mental deficiency" | May 02 20:59 |
| schestowitz | Key point/takeaway message: make it seem like Linux users are pimple-faced kids with down syndrome | May 02 21:00 |
| schestowitz | I wonder if this person is from TomTom (he's Dutch): http://boycottnovell.com/2009/05/02/g... | May 02 21:01 |
| schestowitz | "Silicon Valley's place as a centre of innovation and a major force in the global economy is waning." < http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/-... > Centre of technology will stay some areas in far-east Asia | May 02 21:02 |
| schestowitz | No venture capital in Silicon Valley. It's drying up | May 02 21:02 |
| mib_r7pngx | schestowitz: why am I "MAD"? or where you just quoting Tardon Q00k? | May 02 21:09 |
| mib_r7pngx | LOL very creative "Tardon" :-) | May 02 21:11 |
| schestowitz | yeah, more like Alton Towers | May 02 21:13 |
| schestowitz | Offense or illness. | May 02 21:13 |
| schestowitz | The goal is to tarnish the forums | May 02 21:13 |
| schestowitz | BN is doing quite all right, even though there was no censorship. Sometimes there are spurts of trolling, but they come and go | May 02 21:14 |
| schestowitz | PJ told me they are getting many trolls now "the best ones..." | May 02 21:14 |
| schestowitz | Solaris ain't dead, yet. http://www.internetnews.com/softw... Updates Solaris 10 Performance, Security | May 02 21:16 |
| schestowitz | http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7319 | May 02 21:20 |
| schestowitz | GNOME thinks of redoing the desktop like KDE did with KDE4: http://www.gnomejournal.org/article/63... | May 02 21:27 |
| schestowitz | The Register has been pimping MSDN for a while. What have they done to a once-good publication? | May 02 21:31 |
| schestowitz | Merck is evil. "Merck has paid $4.85 billion to U.S. Vioxx patients, but never admitted liability." http://www.prwatch.org/node/8358 | May 02 21:39 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft is using Silver Lie to suppress GNU/Linux adoption on the desktop: http://www.ozelwebtasarim.com/index.ph... | May 02 21:50 |
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| The trolls at GL now have the same names at Slashdot Trolls. They must think they have destroyed Slashdot and have moved on to more effective communities. | May 02 21:50 | |
| Silverlie is a double pincer for them. It targets GNU/Linux and Google. | May 02 21:51 | |
| schestowitz | Any examples from Groklaw? | May 02 21:52 |
| Nah, this is just a general observation from the last couple of days. I can go look if you like. | May 02 21:52 | |
| going to look | May 02 21:52 | |
| schestowitz | PJ on Slashfot (you must read it): Quote of the Day: Why Not Slashdot < http://boycottnovell.com/2008/04/... > | May 02 21:53 |
| SpaceLifeForm rings a bell .... http://www.groklaw.net/users.php?... | May 02 21:58 | |
| going to read PJ | May 02 21:58 | |
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| Yeah, that's how they operate. | May 02 22:01 | |
| PJ seems to have paid attention. It is interesting to see that once an astroturfer is recognized by the site owner, they drop the nym. | May 02 22:02 | |
| The people at Slashdot stuck to their experiment in community moderation and will continue to do so. | May 02 22:03 | |
| My view has long been that it is satisfying to see M$ wasting resources. I'd rather they were an honest company but they are not. | May 02 22:04 | |
| If they are going to play astroturf games, it is best to bleed them white with them. | May 02 22:04 | |
| At the end of the day, M$ trolls can stand triumphant on the dung heap they have made of the target website. They can keep it, because the community will have moved on and will come back when they are gone. | May 02 22:05 | |
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| This is not a game they can win. | May 02 22:06 | |
| The harder they try, the faster they lose. | May 02 22:06 | |
| I wonder how much it really costs them to make "Windows" a bigger search term than "God" or "Porn" | May 02 22:07 | |
| I once estimated from their quarterly reports that they put about a billion dollars a month into advertising and marketing. | May 02 22:07 | |
| schestowitz | We have some nynshifting shills | May 02 22:09 |
| Ten new resources emerge for each they manage to destroy and the "news" services they purchase are losing money hand over fist. | May 02 22:09 | |
| schestowitz | LinuxToday gets the same one that recently hit us | May 02 22:09 |
| schestowitz | He numshifts in LinuxToday too | May 02 22:09 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft should be sued for it | May 02 22:09 |
| schestowitz | Not just exposed | May 02 22:09 |
| schestowitz | I have more posts coming about W-E | May 02 22:10 |
| schestowitz | I have like 10 more posts lined up | May 02 22:10 |
| schestowitz | Very ugly for the VOle | May 02 22:10 |
| There are a lot of things M$ should be sued for. They destroy business, put people out of work and steal their life's savings and creations. | May 02 22:10 | |
| keep up the good work. | May 02 22:10 | |
| I'm off to do some things. | May 02 22:11 | |
| AFK | May 02 22:11 | |
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| schestowitz | *LOL* http://www.youtube.com/watch?... | May 02 22:53 |
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| the_mad_hatter | I remember hearing that the Green Party of the United States switched to Free Software because of power saving issues, it might be worth checking out. | May 02 23:11 |
| the_mad_hatter | also | May 02 23:11 |
| the_mad_hatter | http://www.osor.eu/news/es-open-sour... | May 02 23:12 |
| the_mad_hatter | ES: Open source community protests national plan for school PCs | May 02 23:12 |
| the_mad_hatter | The Spanish free software association Hispalinux is protesting plans by the Spanish government to massively introduce Microsoft's operating systems and applications on school computers. | May 02 23:12 |
| the_mad_hatter | The battle begins <G> | May 02 23:12 |
| the_mad_hatter | Microsoft offers secure windows to Government | May 02 23:12 |
| the_mad_hatter | http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/... | May 02 23:12 |
| the_mad_hatter | Bet is still gets hacked in no time. | May 02 23:13 |
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| schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com/2009/05/... < Is Netcraft Promoting Microsoft Just Like Net Applications?) | May 02 23:29 |
| schestowitz | I mailed the Spanish lobby with information about MS in ES | May 02 23:30 |
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