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Poll: 72% Say No to Mono in GNU/Linux (and Other Mono News)

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Summary: Mono poll (monopol) and news about the subject

TUX Machines, which is an excellent GNU/Linux news site, has just conducted a little survey and the results -- however inaccurate they may be -- indicate that the large majority or respondents is not in favour of putting Mono in GNU/Linux. In fact, 72% say "no" to Mono. The latest episode of Linux Outlaws deals with this subject too. Skip to 13mins for a short debate on Mono & Fedora. A lot more starts around 49mins. LinuxToday readers too are quite clearly annoyed by inclusions of Mono by default. Tony Manco points out that Ubuntu even considers leaving the GIMP out due to space constraints while totally ignoring heaps of space which Mono and Mono-based applications consume. See this page for proof:



The GIMP

* rickspencer3 proposes pulling the gimp from the CD: o It takes up a lot of space that we need for couchdb, etc... o F-Spot has key features, like crop and red-eye removal o It's a power user tool, users shouldn't stumble into it * Discussion points brought up that o The gimp currently uses 26 megs of space, 20 of which are documentation, which could be moved online o The gimp, though not totally user friendly, is very useful, and does not require "importing" to edit * The current plan of record is: o Keep the gimp in the default install o If we need the room, switch the gimp to online only documentation o If we still need the room, kick it out altogether


Over in Launchpad, there is an itemised list attached to mononono and a new entry highlights the fact that the Mono patent covenant is considered discriminatory. It's only good for Novell.

The patent covenant is probably to be considered discriminatory in reference to other programs.

What follow apparently means that use of covered technologies, such as Mono is to be considered unsafe (for covenant purposes) for developing parts of the software cited below.

read the patent covenant: http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/...


Martin Kaba, a Free software advocate, recommends replacing Tomboy with GNote.

Here is where Gnote practically steps in. Gnote is a port of Tomboy to C++. No Mono, No Novell.


Even the press wrote about the subject, reminding readers that Fedora is already distancing itself from Mono and replacing Tomboy with Gnote.

Fedora feels it's something to worry about, and that's why there are plans on the table to exclude Mono from Fedora 12 -- in part due to the fact that applications that would nominally require Mono are being swapped for others that don't. A big part of it is unease about the licensing, but no small amount of unease comes from the fact that .NET itself is a Microsoft creation.

[...]

Should Fedora exclude Mono from Fedora? Sure, why not? It's their distribution; they're free to include or exclude whatever they like from it. There's nothing stopping anyone from adding it on after the fact, or creating a whole derivative distribution that adds Mono back in.


When Tomboy is no longer part of the default 'package' or distribution (people are free to install whatever they wish afterwards), then at least in Ubuntu there is fspot to worry about. Three readers have just recommended a new replacement for fspot as well. Check out Solang, which makes a lot of headlines at the moment.

It currently runs on a up-to-date Fedora 10+ installation and Debian Sid (with Gdl patch applied).


Here is a better introduction and installation guidance for Ubuntu users. There is no lack of powerful libre applications that are independent from Novell's Mono.

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