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IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: July 30th, 2008

Posted in IRC Logs at 3:43 am by Dr. Roy Schestowitz

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schestowitz China censors the Olympics, Microsoft puts DRM in it… Internet censorship plagues journalists at Olympics Jul 30 08:31
schestowitz http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-10002… Lovely! Jul 30 08:31
PetoKraus ehm, fucktards. Jul 30 08:36
schestowitz It’s getting to be the same elsewhere in pseudo-democratic (corpocratic) nations. Jul 30 08:37
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kentma1 schestowitz: just sent you an email – it’s an obituary to Joe Barr I wrote in cola, but it was quite good, so I thought you might be able to find space for it on your site. Jul 30 10:05
schestowitz Just responded seconds ago. Jul 30 10:15
schestowitz “That’s an excellent piece. And yes, I’d love to share it. I assume the subject line makes a good title? Do you want attribution? Jul 30 10:16
kentma1 replied to the email with a yes on both counts :-) Jul 30 10:34
schestowitz You know..? I now remember that sort of polite confrontation from Digg… Jul 30 10:42
kentma1 you mean about debating points? Jul 30 10:43
schestowitz I accused Linux.com of running the anti-Linux ads (back then it was very aggressive… “Linux is a RISK!”… you know the gig). Anyway, Joe came to Digg and replied to the comment. He was obviously uncomfortable with the ads and he explained to me that it was the publisher’s fault. Jul 30 10:43
kentma1 ah, yes, I see what you mean now. Jul 30 10:44
schestowitz As you may or may now know, Microsoft gave some dough to SourceForge and those sister sites. That’s why I no longer trust Slashdot, either. The editor were also invited for a Redmond visit. They accepted the invitations. Jul 30 10:44
kentma1 The bias at slash has changed very significantly over the years.  It used to be staunchly centered on “new” stuff, now, we’ll, I don’t really bother with it any more. Jul 30 10:45
kentma1 This will not end, at least, until MS have run out of cash! Jul 30 10:45
schestowitz Well, yeah… Groklaw hardly trusts many news sites, either. There’s a Microsoft money trail (or partners). Jul 30 10:46
schestowitz I wrote about it just 2 hours ago: http://boycottnovell.com/2008/07/30… Jul 30 10:46
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schestowitz http://boycottnovell.com/2008/0… Jul 30 10:55
schestowitz Bad news for Microsoft: http://www.smh.com.au/news/biztech/goo… Jul 30 11:04
kentma1 ah – that was quick publishign :-) Jul 30 11:06
schestowitz Yes, probably will get some attention.I just wasn’t sure if Joe wants to be remembered only as a FUD fighter. Jul 30 11:06
kentma1 There are plenty of other obits around for him… Jul 30 11:07
schestowitz I’ve seen just one. Jul 30 11:08
kentma1 ah, maybe there’s only one other… Jul 30 11:08
PetoKraus nice. Jul 30 11:08
schestowitz Well, visible ones anyway Jul 30 11:08
PetoKraus that australia, i mean Jul 30 11:09
schestowitz It’s Roblimo who cried as he wrote the first one. It made me very sad. Jul 30 11:09
kentma1 PetoKraus: just for a minute, I though you liked my piece :-) Jul 30 11:10
PetoKraus hehe i didn’t read it yet Jul 30 11:10
schestowitz PetoKraus: this things are not linear, either. Expect watchers to follow suit (NSW). Jul 30 11:10
PetoKraus watchers? Jul 30 11:11
schestowitz The Telegraph did it some days ago (bye Outlook, Office and Exchange) Jul 30 11:11
PetoKraus anyway, the price difference – 30M compared to 9.5M…. Jul 30 11:11
schestowitz Watchers as in, say… CIOs that rely on the judgment and experience of peers. Wait-and-/watchers/… that’s why Microsoft keeps that Big Lie about Munich going. Jul 30 11:12
PetoKraus i guess i completely missed THAT big lie. Jul 30 11:13
PetoKraus (not reading much lately) Jul 30 11:13
kentma1 One of the most compelling and seductive logical fallacies is the “if someone else has done it, it must be right”.  It’s these people that Roy is thinking of, I think – they see that someone else has done it, so feel confident in moving in the same direction with low risk. Jul 30 11:13
kentma1 The best solution would be to expose the fallacy, but it’s so compelling and seductive that most people cannot even recognise that it /is/ a fallacy. Jul 30 11:14
PetoKraus it’s more of a psychology, or, deep human nature (to repeat stuff after others) than… fallacy Jul 30 11:15
kentma1 ah, you see what I mean.  It’s a logical fallacy, and yet, so seductive, that you want to find any excuse to accept it as not being a fallacy… Jul 30 11:16
schestowitz PetoKraus: there are seevral exceptionally-successfuly multi-thousand-workstation migrations to GNU/Linux (usually SUSE) in Germany, but Microsoft et al try to tell a story about disasters. Jul 30 11:17
PetoKraus Suse though. Jul 30 11:17
kentma1 I’m not sure that Munich is even a disaster – it was just a big job. Jul 30 11:17
schestowitz Two black sheep make one black sheep feel comfort. There’s also less liability (“he did it too”) Jul 30 11:17
schestowitz Munich has a Debian derivative. Jul 30 11:18
schestowitz It’s the porting of software they use (hundreds of things) to GNU/Linux that took time. Jul 30 11:18
PetoKraus ehm, have a link what happened? Jul 30 11:19
PetoKraus google returned only 2 years old article Jul 30 11:19
kentma1 If you look at more extreme cases, the fallacy becomes clear.  If my neighbour buys a cello and a range rover, does that mean I should buy the same? Jul 30 11:19
PetoKraus it depends what you want to do Jul 30 11:19
schestowitz *LOL* Jul 30 11:20
kentma1 It’s essential to consider your own needs in every decision, the fact that my neighbour is a talented cellist and I’m not clearly weighs heavily.  When people come to complex technical decisions, though, they find it harder to weigh the facts and are more inclined to see what someone else did.  It’s seductive. Jul 30 11:20
PetoKraus if you wanna get a jeep, get a rover :D Jul 30 11:21
kentma1 PetoKraus: ah, I already happen to have a landrover 110 :-) Jul 30 11:21
PetoKraus d’oh Jul 30 11:21
schestowitz In this economy (gas price)? Get a mortgage for gas, too. Jul 30 11:21
PetoKraus i am gonna get me Lada Niva Jul 30 11:21
kentma1 I recently traded in a discovery – I’m wondering if it were the right decision, though – I could run the disco on 50:50 diesel & sainsbury cooking oil. Jul 30 11:22
PetoKraus and change it from gasoline to gas. Jul 30 11:22
PetoKraus :D Jul 30 11:22
kentma1 didn’t affect the performance much :-) Jul 30 11:22
kentma1 the defender 110 engine needs modifications to burn oil, though.  If the price keeps rising, I might see if I can get them done, though. Jul 30 11:23
PetoKraus hehe Jul 30 11:23
PetoKraus i use public transport and not even consider getting license soon. Jul 30 11:23
kentma1 cooking oil, I mean.  Diesel is oil, of course :-) Jul 30 11:23
PetoKraus yes, i know ;) Jul 30 11:23
PetoKraus sainsbury can’t sell diesel as cooking oil. i hope. Jul 30 11:24
*schestowitz trying to find an article from The Register Jul 30 11:24
kentma1 I mostly travel for work by public transport, but there are some things which just don’t work that way. Jul 30 11:24
kentma1 PetoKraus: hehe – some of it tastes so bad, I wonder :-) Jul 30 11:24
PetoKraus you know, i shop at sommerfield mostly (when in the UK) Jul 30 11:24
schestowitz Haha. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/07… Jul 30 11:24
schestowitz http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/07/2… “Stop giving the Terrrrrrrissssttsssss more ideas!” Jul 30 11:25
kentma1 :-D Jul 30 11:25
schestowitz Xtreeeme recycling. Jul 30 11:26
kentma1 This is why I was using the oil /before/ i’d cooked with it – just mixing it with the diesel was okay 8-) Jul 30 11:26
PetoKraus hmm Jul 30 11:26
schestowitz If the price of oil goes back on the upside, people might start thinking of ‘sacrificing’ their children (and maybe not in the orphanage sense). Jul 30 11:26
PetoKraus haha Jul 30 11:27
kentma1 schestowitz: uk! Jul 30 11:27
schestowitz What about it? Jul 30 11:27
kentma1 sacrificing my kids? Jul 30 11:27
PetoKraus Once the boys in blue realise that chip fat can be a weapon of terr’r, they’ll pounce on anyone with a dodgy accent found loitering near deep fat friers. ie the scotch. Jul 30 11:27
PetoKraus haah! this is good :D Jul 30 11:27
schestowitz BTW, I’ve just taken a look at Webalizer (first time in a month). The traffic in BN.com has increased consistency every single month over the past 12 months. It’s at an average of 15,500 pageviews per day now. Scary. Jul 30 11:27
kentma1 I don’t have an altar with channels in for such activities :-) Jul 30 11:28
schestowitz The other thing about poor economies is corporate misery, which leads to bad stuff. Jul 30 11:28
kentma1 wow – that’s some hit rate. Jul 30 11:29
schestowitz Watch Microsoft vs Yahoo’s board, Novell selling out, Apache… well, taking some dough. If the economy is bad, people will ‘prostitute’ themselves and the rich ones can capitalise some more. (RIAA included) Jul 30 11:29
schestowitz GL probably has about 10 times that number, but mathfox turned logging off so that the AMD server can cope. Jul 30 11:30
PetoKraus ha, they’re hacking splashtop Jul 30 11:31
PetoKraus great Jul 30 11:31
schestowitz Yes. Jul 30 11:31
schestowitz I kept quiet about it. Jul 30 11:31
schestowitz Script boyz will be script boyz Jul 30 11:32
PetoKraus i just don’t get why did they make it proprietary Jul 30 11:32
PetoKraus it’s like…. pointless. Jul 30 11:32
schestowitz Parts of it were open. Jul 30 11:32
schestowitz It was on ZDNet… David, IIRC. Jul 30 11:32
schestowitz Found it: http://community.zdnet.co.uk/blog… Jul 30 11:32
kentma1 interesting… one wonders why Asus didn’t go for something 100% open. Jul 30 11:34
PetoKraus well, who knows. Asus is weird. They are having great ideas but they mess up the nuances Jul 30 11:35
PetoKraus (Xandros. Splashtop) Jul 30 11:35
schestowitz Xandros won’t last for long Jul 30 11:36
schestowitz Canonical take a p00per on a lot of the desktop players, Mandriva included. It has hype going for it given that’s it’s a decent product with quality _on par_ with many. Jul 30 11:36
PetoKraus well Jul 30 11:41
PetoKraus i installed ubuntu few days ago Jul 30 11:41
PetoKraus there’s only one thing missing… Jul 30 11:41
PetoKraus cinelerra. Other than that, i’d recommend it to everyone, except hard-core guys (gentoo ftw there) Jul 30 11:41
schestowitz I’ve had Ubuntu running on some boxes over the years, but SUSE and Mandriva give it a run for the money. Jul 30 11:42
schestowitz BTW: http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-To-Ins… Jul 30 11:43
PetoKraus hehe. anyway, the thing i don’t like is mono-infection in ubuntu. Jul 30 11:43
schestowitz They named it after Uwe Thiem, which is nice. http://dot.kde.org/1217341401/ Jul 30 11:44
schestowitz http://boycottnovell.com/2008/02… Mark: “At this stage we see no significant issues with patents and Mono.” Jul 30 11:45
PetoKraus well yes, i know. Jul 30 11:52
PetoKraus anyway, there’s been nice long discussion on E’s mailinglist about license for whole EFL Jul 30 11:53
schestowitz ” E’s mailinglist”? Jul 30 11:54
PetoKraus enlightenment Jul 30 11:54
schestowitz Oh, *that* E. :-) E17 Jul 30 11:56
schestowitz Isn’t it maintained by just one Belgian guy who publishes ELive? Jul 30 11:56
PetoKraus haha, no, not really Jul 30 11:56
PetoKraus elive is a distribution of debian + enlightenment Jul 30 11:56
PetoKraus that belgian guy has not much to do with E development Jul 30 11:57
PetoKraus http://exchange.enlightenment.org Jul 30 11:57
PetoKraus they did a new page lately, cool api… though the release date is still in far future Jul 30 11:58
schestowitz Wasn’t there a SF.net page? Which reminds me of how appalling it is that Slashdot is now by association sponsored by Microsoft. There’s a reader exodus and no developer exodus, yet. Jul 30 11:58
PetoKraus i doubt it’ll ever be released Jul 30 11:59
schestowitz Isn’t it always “in development”? Jul 30 12:00
PetoKraus well, almost looks like. Jul 30 12:01
schestowitz Re SF.net, it’s good to have Google hosting around cause it’ll never accept Microsoft money. I have a project on SF.net, but Microsoft will ruins things. it serves them well if they ruin these site and dissipate participants with junk posts, Microsoft ads, anti-Linux trolling, etc. They did this with SF.net when they picked anti-FOSS awards (likely to get used, get users sued). Jul 30 12:01
PetoKraus but it’s perfectly stable. Jul 30 12:01
schestowitz Yes, so I hear. Jul 30 12:02
schestowitz When I say SF.net I refer to ‘child’ sites too, i.e. IT Manager Journal, Newsforge, linux.com, Slashdot… Jul 30 12:02
schestowitz And now they ruin Datamation (Jupitermedia) too, which had me lose interest in publishing there ever aqain. Brian Profffitt left them recently to do LDN and he hated the Microsoft ads too. They suddnly came in massive numbers as soon as he left LT and Carla took over. Jul 30 12:04
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kentma1 http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/07… Jul 30 13:31
kentma1 mccreevy is determined to create himself a long-term job here. Jul 30 13:32
*schestowitz looks Jul 30 13:33
schestowitz Uh oh!! Jul 30 13:33
schestowitz That’s the ‘Community’ patent back door, I think. I’ll read on. Jul 30 13:33
schestowitz It’s the Microsoft-funded scum (ACT, among others) which pushes for this. They try to poison and pollute the system with monopolies and choke anything that’s peer-produced or shared. Jul 30 13:35
kentma1 the garbage about “subsidised” patent claims is particularly revolting. Jul 30 13:35
kentma1 It’s just trying to drag everyone into the system so that they can be squeezed.  Mccreevy deserves investigation – he really does seem to be on someone’s payroll in some way, or he’s just exceptionally gullible. Jul 30 13:36
kentma1 http://www.reghardware.co.uk/… Jul 30 13:36
kentma1 ps3 is doing well, although sony as a whole are not. Jul 30 13:37
kentma1 One suspects a combination of chinese competition and a recession. Jul 30 13:37
schestowitz Yes, McCreevy is like Santa Clauf to the IP monopolies. Jul 30 13:38
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schestowitz http://osindia.blogspot.com/2008/07/paten… Jul 30 15:44
schestowitz http://www.prweb.com/release… Jul 30 15:44
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schestowitz Microsoft appears to be moving off Windows (though Mary Jo Foley begs to dffer). http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/07/30… Jul 30 16:09
shyam_k microkernel-based OS? so next is 236 patent cases against hurd? Jul 30 16:11
shyam_k ;-) they should do it that way.. Jul 30 16:12
schestowitz How is Hurd coming along anyway? I occasionally read about it. Microsoft has Xenis. Jul 30 16:13
schestowitz *Xenix. Jul 30 16:13
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SeveredCross Quiet here. Jul 30 18:04
schestowitz Yes. Feel free to bring up a topic or idea. Jul 30 18:05
SeveredCross Nah, just wanna listen in. Jul 30 18:06
schestowitz The chats are bursty (fashion-wise). it’s idle most of the time, but sometimes there’s a more engaging conversation. Jul 30 18:07
SeveredCross I happened upon the website, and while I can’t say I agree with your points, I figured I’d listen in on the conversation some. Jul 30 18:11
schestowitz One thing worth writing about tomorrow is probably the marketing (almost half a billion spent on brainwash at the moment). It’s a turning point. The compatibility argument changes a wee bit if you consider the recession and the fact that not many people will buy compatible hardware for that ‘new’ OS (not Mojave). Jul 30 18:12
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schestowitz I’m trying to get sorted out a Web-based access to the IRc channel. Jul 30 21:08
schestowitz Does anyone know mibbit? Jul 30 21:08
SeveredCross Yes, but not very well. Jul 30 21:10
schestowitz It works fine with mibbit servers, but now with Freenode. Jul 30 21:10
schestowitz Okay, I’ve just cracked the first barrier… Jul 30 21:14
schestowitz I think I know what’s blocking it. Jul 30 21:32
>chanserv<unban *!*@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com* Jul 30 21:37
-ChanServ-Channel *!*@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com* is not registered. Jul 30 21:37
*#boycottnovell Banlist: Sat Jun 21 06:14:11 *!*@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com* ChanServ!ChanServ@services. Jul 30 21:40
*#boycottnovell :End of Channel Ban List Jul 30 21:40
*#boycottnovell Banlist: Sat Jun 21 06:14:11 *!*@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com* ChanServ!ChanServ@services. Jul 30 21:41
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*#boycottnovell Banlist: Sat Jun 21 06:14:11 *!*@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com* ChanServ!ChanServ@services. Jul 30 21:42
*#boycottnovell :End of Channel Ban List Jul 30 21:42
*schestowitz removes ban on *!*@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com* Jul 30 21:44
*#boycottnovell :End of Channel Ban List Jul 30 21:44
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*ChanServ has kicked mib_1vkv0v from #boycottnovell (Banned: Get a real IRC client) Jul 30 21:45
schestowitz Hmmm… that didn’t work. Jul 30 21:46
*#boycottnovell Banlist: Wed Jul 30 20:46:46 *!*@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com* ChanServ!ChanServ@services. Jul 30 21:46
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SeveredCross Uhm the reason it’s getting banned is not the channel, it’s freenode. Jul 30 21:46
*schestowitz removes ban on *!*@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com* Jul 30 21:46
schestowitz Oh. Jul 30 21:46
*#boycottnovell :End of Channel Ban List Jul 30 21:46
SeveredCross Freenode has some strange strict rules about banning clients like Mibbit, etc. Jul 30 21:46
SeveredCross Try to use CGI::IRC, it might not be banned. Jul 30 21:47
schestowitz But it worked before [H]omer set up this rule. Jul 30 21:47
schestowitz He banned it cause trolls came from there. Jul 30 21:47
schestowitz I’m sure it worked fine before. See http://boycottnovell.com/index… Jul 30 21:48
schestowitz What’s more, I saw other sites linking to freenode from mibbit. I’ll try again. Jul 30 21:49
SeveredCross Hmm. Jul 30 21:50
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moparx check your channel settings. it is set for auto kick/ban for that host Jul 30 21:50
schestowitz No luck. Jul 30 21:51
schestowitz Oh. Jul 30 21:51
schestowitz Do  banning and kicking work separately? Jul 30 21:51
schestowitz I was simply blocked when it was on ban. Jul 30 21:51
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schestowitz It’s strange. I remove the rule (ban) [H]omer set up, but it comes back when mibbit connects. Jul 30 21:52
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moparx it shouldn’t come back if you remove the akick. removing just from the channel ban list wont do anything Jul 30 21:53
schestowitz akick? Jul 30 21:53
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moparx type this: /msg chanserv akick #boycottnovell list Jul 30 21:54
>chanserv<akick #boycottnovell list Jul 30 21:54
-ChanServ-AKICK list for #boycottnovell: Jul 30 21:54
-ChanServ-1: *!*@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com* Get a real IRC client [modified: 5 weeks, 4 days, 14:51:52 ago] Jul 30 21:54
-ChanServ-Total of 1 entry in #boycottnovell’s AKICK list. Jul 30 21:54
schestowitz Oh, I see. Jul 30 21:54
*#boycottnovell :End of Channel Ban List Jul 30 21:54
schestowitz How do I clear the kick? Jul 30 21:54
moparx use del Jul 30 21:55
>chanserv<akick #boycottnovell del *!*@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com* Jul 30 21:55
-ChanServ-*!*@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com* has been removed from the AKICK list for #boycottnovell. Jul 30 21:55
moparx ‘/msg chanserv akick #boycottnovell del blahblahblah’ Jul 30 21:55
*#boycottnovell :End of Channel Ban List Jul 30 21:55
schestowitz OK. I’ll test it now. Jul 30 21:55
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mib_m8odp7 Hello world. Jul 30 21:58
schestowitz Wow, that’s quite some lag. Like 10 seconds. Jul 30 21:58
mib_m8odp7 Hello world. Jul 30 21:58
schestowitz better than nothing, I guess. Jul 30 21:58
schestowitz I’ll modify the site now. Thanks a milion, moparx  and SeveredCross. Jul 30 21:59
schestowitz *million Jul 30 21:59
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moparx No Problem Jul 30 22:00
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    Finding news about the EPO is almost impossible because today’s so-called ‘news’ sites are in the pockets of Benoît Battistelli, António Campinos, and their cohorts who turned the EPO into a hub of litigation, not science; this is part of an international (worldwide) problem because financial resources for journalism have run out, and so the vacuum is filled/replaced almost entirely by Public Relations (PR) and marketing

  5. Trying to Appease Those Who Never Liked Free Software or Those Who Blindly Loved All Patent Monopolies to Begin With

    It’s crystal clear that trying to appease everyone, all the time, is impossible; in the case of the EPO, for example, we hope that exposing Team Battistelli/Campinos helps raise awareness of the harms of patent maximalism, and when speaking about Free software — whilst occasionally bashing the alternatives (proprietary) — we hope to convince more people to join the “Good Fight”

  6. Links 28/11/2021: Laravel 8.73 Released, GitHub Offline for Hours

    Links for the day

  7. IRC Proceedings: Saturday, November 27, 2021

    IRC logs for Saturday, November 27, 2021

  8. Links 27/11/2021: Nvidia’s DLSS Hype and Why GNU/Linux Matters

    Links for the day

  9. [Meme] Linus Gabriel Sebastian Takes GNU/Linux for a (Tail)'Spin'

    If you’re trying to prove that GNU/Linux is NOT Windows, then “haha! Well done…”

  10. GNU/Linux is for Freedom and It'll Gain Many Users When (or Where) People Understand What Software (or Computing) Freedom Means

    Software that respects people's freedom (and by extension privacy as well) is an alluring proposition; those who choose to try GNU/Linux for the wrong reasons are likely the wrong target audience for advocates

  11. Amid Reports of Microsoft's Competition Crimes in Europe...

    European companies are complaining, but they seem to overlook the principal aspect of an imperialistic system with bottomless pockets (almost 30 trillion dollars in debt already; US national debt soared again last month); Microsoft is shielded by a political system with military (“defence”) as bailout budget to help cushion international expansion for data grab and technical leverage, as we've seen in the case of EPO (this is all political, not technical, and should thus be treated as a political/corruption issue)

  12. Is Linus Trolling the GNU/Linux Community?

    This new video responds to what many sites have been provoked into amplifying

  13. Links 27/11/2021: Tux Paint 0.9.27 and SeaMonkey 1.1.19 in EasyOS

    Links for the day

  14. [Meme] Keeping Our Distance From Microsoft

    The OSI is the dagger, the Linux Foundation is the knife, and many others are the sword by which Microsoft tries to get into the very heart of GNU/Linux and extinguish the Free software movement

  15. Microsoft Edge Encourages Indebted Americans to Guilt-spend Just in Time for Christmas

    Guest post by Ryan, reprinted with permission

  16. IRC Proceedings: Friday, November 26, 2021

    IRC logs for Friday, November 26, 2021

  17. 38+ Years of GNU and 19+ Years of FSF Associate Membership

    “On November 25, 2002,” Wikipedia notes, “the FSF launched the FSF Associate Membership program for individuals.” As the above video points out, it all started almost 40 years ago.

  18. Gemini as a Platform for Gamers

    Contrary to what people often assume (or are led to assume), even without client-side scripting Gemini can accomplish a great deal; early adopters, many of whom are technical, test the limits of the very minimalistic (by design and intention) specification

  19. Improved Workflows: Achievement Unlocked

    Today we've completed a bunch of small projects that can make us more efficient (e.g. more Daily Links per day, more articles); the above video was recorded many hours ago to accompany the outline below

  20. Links 26/11/2021: New Complaint About Microsoft Competition Crimes in Europe, EuroLinux 8.5, GhostBSD 21.11.24, and Kiwi TCMS 10.5 Released

    Links for the day

  21. Links 26/11/2021: F35 Elections, Whonix, OSMC's November Refresh With Kodi 19.3

    Links for the day

  22. IRC Proceedings: Thursday, November 25, 2021

    IRC logs for Thursday, November 25, 2021

  23. IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, November 24, 2021

    IRC logs for Wednesday, November 24, 2021

  24. Links 25/11/2021: PHP 8.1.0 Released and Linux 5.15.5

    Links for the day

  25. IBM as Master of Hypocrisy

    Free software projects and Free software developers have long been humiliated by corporations of Western misogynists, falsely claiming that the Free software community isn’t inclusive enough (these are shameless projection tactics; as a matter of public record, the exact opposite is true) and even the eradication of supposedly offensive language isn’t something IBM takes seriously

  26. Links 25/11/2021: LibreOffice 7.2.3 and Mesa 21.2.6 Released

    Links for the day

  27. [Meme] So Desperate That Edge Cannot Even Exceed 4% That They Block Rival Web Browsers

    Linux/Android/Free Software/GNU (they go by very many names/brands) may continue to grow to the point where Windows is as irrelevant as Blackberry; this means that Microsoft’s grip on the Web too has slipped — to the point where Microsoft frantically uses 'bailout' money to hijack LinkedIn, GitHub, etc. (it also rebrands almost everything as "Azure" or clown to fake a perception of growth)

  28. Windows Vista Service Pack 11 (Vista 11) Has Failed to Curb the Growth of GNU/Linux

    Windows market share continues to decrease in spite of billions of dollars spent bribing the media for fake hype, especially in light of a new Windows Service Pack (SP), Vista SP 11

  29. Links 25/11/2021: Proton 6.3-8 and Linux Mint Compared to Ubuntu

    Links for the day

  30. 3.5 Years Later the 'Master' of Fedora is Still Microsoft and IBM Cannot Be Bothered to Alter Git Branch Names (Refuting or Ignoring Its Very Own Directive About Supposedly Racially-Insensitive Terms)

    Today we demonstrate the hypocrisy of IBM; years after telling us that we should shun the term "master" and repeatedly insisting it had a racist connotation at least 65 Fedora repositories, still controlled by Microsoft, still use "master"

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