Vista 7 Coverage a Mixed Bag on Release Date
- Dr. Roy Schestowitz
- 2009-10-22 17:04:59 UTC
- Modified: 2009-10-22 17:04:59 UTC
Summary: Headlines about Vista 7
●
Consumers Won't Pay $120 for Windows 7 Upgrade
Will home users pay that price? I'm betting they won't. True, some Microsoft diehards will line up on October 22 to grab the first copies of Win 7, but most consumers will spot the price tag and walk away.
●
Apple takes a few shots at Windows during WWDC09
During this year's WWDC, Apple took the time to talk up Snow Leopard, the successor to Mac OS X, but also made sure to talk about Windows. Apple's Bertrand Serlet made a point to say that the company loves and is proud of Leopard, so to show that the next version built upon the previous one, the company called the operating system Snow Leopard. Serlet called Windows 7 "just another version" of Windows Vista, noting that the user still has to deal with DLLs, the registry, disk defragmenter, and so on. He emphasized that Microsoft has dug quite a big hole with Vista and is trying to get out of it with Windows 7, at which point the screen showed the rather harsh quote: "Vista has failed to catch on with mainstream computer users, while businesses have shunned it outright." On top of that, he said that Windows 7 has "even more complexity" since it is "the same old tech as Vista" and is "just another version of Vista."
●
Microsoft's roadkill on the journey to Windows 7
Windows 7 starts out on the wrong foot
Although it's too early to fully measure the impact Windows 7 will have on the third-party market, it's already off to a bad start with its heavy-handed dismissal of third-party video codecs. Third-party codecs cooperate with video compression standards that Microsoft's own video applications, such as Media Player, were heretofore loathe to support.
But Windows 7 adds some new codecs to Microsoft's quiver, and where these collide with third-party products, you won't be surprised who comes out on top.
Windows 7 preempts third-party codecs in Microsoft's own applications, such as Media Player, by using its own embedded codecs whenever possible. This is a major change from XP and Vista operation, where users could override Microsoft codecs globally. Although users can circumvent Windows 7 codec usurpation with some effort, the process is not intuitive and decidedly less convenient than the old behavior.
●
The 7 deadly sins of Windows 7
Likewise, power users soon learn that their ability to hack Windows 7 to make it work the way they want is often limited by the closed, black-box nature of its proprietary code base. These users see how easy it is to custom-tailor Linux and even Mac OS X, and they feel that twinge of jealously. They want what these other platforms provide, and soon they find themselves coveting their neighbor's OS.
●
Cloud giants take shots at Windows 7
The latest round of comments could further indicate that following the troubles of Windows Vista, competitors may be sensing blood in the water with Redmond's latest efforts. The remarks from IBM and Salesforce.com come after Apple suggested that it would be gaining users following the release of Windows 7.
●
BBC Breakfast Talk Up Windows 7 Dismiss Rivals
A few points that came to mind:-
* I don’t recall such a review of OSX Snow Leopard when it came out, BBC biased towards Microsoft?
* Will there be a similar review of other OS releases this month/year such as Ubuntu and others?
* Why focus so much on the touch elements if most computers don’t have a touch screen and it’s a ‘gimmick’. Perhaps it just makes good telly, even if it’s somewhat misguided
* No mention of the pain users will have upgrading
* No mention of the cost
* No mention of the fact that OSX is cheaper, instead focussing on the cost of Apple hardware. Isn’t this an OS review, not a hardware review. I’d bet that Sony touch screen Rory used isn’t exactly cheap
* ‘little community’ building Free Software you say Rory? Dismissive and unnecessarily Patronising
* ‘don’t want to bother with that sort of stuff’. I find many users don’t want to ‘bother’ with viruses, malware and broken software, but they do, on Windows
* Ubuntu isn’t ‘out next week’. The latest version is. Ubuntu has been around for 5 years (this week). What we’re doing is no different to Microsoft shipping a new release of Windows, and Apple shipping a new OSX. It just so happens ours is free
Rory, please feel free to come along to the Ubuntu Release Party next Thursday 29th in London, and you can meet some of the great people who help put Ubuntu together.
●
Microsoft admits Windows 7 security ad isn't 'sincere'
Microsoft is set to launch an advertising campaign promoting the security€ of Windows 7 that even its own executives admitted was less than sincere.
During the Windows 7 launch event in Sydney this morning (see photo€ gallery top right), journalists were shown a number of advertisements€ that will feature in an upcoming television campaign - including one€ touting the operating system's security capabilities.
The advertisement in question features an elderly gentlemen with what€ looks to be his grandson. They are playing with a very grand toy castle€ and talking about IT security.
"A while back something just popped into my head: 'My PC should have more€ security'," said the grandfather. "Like 50-foot castle wall-type€ security. Next thing I know, whammo! There's Windows 7. Now it keeps all€ my personal info safer and I don't have to worry about bad stuff getting€ through. Victory is mine. How's that for secure?"
[...]
"Don't you worry that [the advert] might just be misleading a few people€ into not buying antivirus software?" Ross asked. "Because you're still€ going to have to, aren't you?"
Putt responded by saying consumers should get "more sincere guidance"€ from a third party.
●
Brand power can fix rogue AV issue: Microsoft
When asked if whitelisting legitimate security products - so rogue security applications would be automatically blocked - was a possibility, Strathdee explained that this would be "an enormous amount of work" and is made more difficult in countries that have a large number of relatively unknown security vendors.
Recent Techrights' Posts
- Why Would Anybody be Afraid of Talking to Richard Stallman?
- We need to get rid of the baseless stigma
- EPO on Strike
- organisation operating outside the Rule of Law
- Affirming What We Already Know: Solicitors Regulation Authority (SRA) is Profoundly Incompetent
- "SRA ordered to pay solicitor £50k in costs after failed prosecution"
-
- Gemini Links 30/01/2026: Love and Cultivation, Gemtext Anchors
- Links for the day
- Will Jim Zemlin Also Sell His Daughter or Only the "Linux" Brand (and Linux Foundation) to Bill Epsteingate?
- Torvalds "ate a bug"
- The Epstein Files Don't Say the Ages of Those "Russian Girls" Bill Epsteingate Exploited
- This E-mail was sent around the time an arrest was made for pedophilia
- Only One in 33 EPO Staff Voting on the Strike Opposed It
- Kudos to all those who participated in the strike
- Still Hoping for "Slop Zero" in 2026
- We've also noticed that linuxiac.com shows a glimmer of hope this week
- Links 30/01/2026: Waymo Crashing Into 'Small People' (Children), Microsoft at Risk Due to Slop Debt
- Links for the day
- Amutable’s Management and Founders Are 100% Microsoft!
- It'll be focused on promoting Microsoft's agenda in everything it does
- IBM Tries to Get Rid of Workers Without Paying Them (and It Appears to be Working)
- be sure to speak to people who actually work there
- He Has No Money, But He Has Power, He Has a Voice
- That's why they envy and attack him
- Free Software in Swiss Media This Week
- RMS is still going places with his Migros bag (Swiss retail giant)
- TV Programs Disseminate False Numbers of Microsoft Layoffs (About 31,000 Laid Off Last Year, Not Including PIPs, Contractors and so on)
- large-scale layoffs are inevitable, no matter how long Microsoft delays or procrastinates
- Links 30/01/2026: Microsoft's "OpenAI Is Headed For Bankruptcy" and Bitcoin Crashes
- Links for the day
- Amutable is a Microsoft Proxy Like Xamarin, With Some IBM/Red Hat Staff Added for Good Measure
- Amutable chasing money and trying to impose TPM etc. on everybody
- The Letter Sent to the Ringleader of the Alicante Mafia This Week
- Call for industrial actions to stop the salary erosion of EPO staff
- Oracle's Debt Exploded by 22 Billion Dollars in 6 Months, the Ponzi Scheme With Scam Altman Was Classic 'Pump and Dump'
- The founder of Oracle now uses his wealth for right-wing ideological reasons, nothing else
- Facebook ('Meta') is Dead Meat, This GAFAM Company's Debt Exploded by Almost 33 Billion Dollars in Just 3 Months (11 Billion Per Month)
- we can expect many sales/contracts to get canceled
- Australia's top nurse takes on Musk, Zuckerberg & rogue health influencers, birthkeepers
- Reprinted with permission from Daniel Pocock
- The "Alicante Mafia" - Part XVI - The Associates of Mr. Cocainegate Don't Want to Talk About Cocainegate (Right of Reply)
- Nobody wanted to talk about cocaine at the EPO
- The "Open Source" (Corporate Openwashing) Fake Community Rejects Democracy, Open Source Initiative is in Effect Dead
- This is basically the end of the OSI
- Cracks and Holes in Microsoft's Slop Bubble (Also, Windows is Declining)
- "More Bad News For Xbox As Microsoft Blames Gaming For An Annual Decline In Its PC Business"
- Microsoft's Debt Exploded by More Than 20 Billion Dollars This Past Year, Says Microsoft
- Expect more mass layoffs
- Strike at the EPO Today
- Next month we'll start a new EPO series
- State of the Slop and The Register MS Runs Ads as 'Articles'
- Yesterday we could not find much slop about "Linux"
- Gemini Links 30/01/2026: Announcing Crossyword and SYN Attack
- Links for the day
- Over at Tux Machines...
- GNU/Linux news for the past day
- IRC Proceedings: Thursday, January 29, 2026
- IRC logs for Thursday, January 29, 2026
- Gemini Links 29/01/2026: Naps, Letting Go, and Terribly Cold Weather
- Links for the day
- Links 29/01/2026: Kennedy Center Officials Resigning and Amazon to Cut 16,000 Jobs
- Links for the day
- Goodbyes to Red Hat and IBM
- PIPs let them do the same with less "wasted" on severance or with obscene narrative-shaping
- RMS Was Right 35 Years Ago
- Stallman’s viewpoints have remained the same
- The Need to Understand the Projection Tactics Against RMS
- There's an old and common saying (or "wisdom") about who's guilty when there's a fart in elevators (lifts)
- Links 29/01/2026: Neocities Is Blocked by Microsoft, “Intellectual Freedom Centers” as the New "Intelligent Design"
- Links for the day
- Microsoft XBox Dying Not Only as a Console, Reveals Microsoft
- Microsoft is trying to rebrand or repurpose the brand
- Don't be Mistaken, Microsoft Boasts About Money That Does Not Exist and Revenue (Buying From Oneself!) Is Not Income
- the company's debt grew
- Fedora is IBM and There's Hardly Any Community Left
- It's more like an onboarding mechanism for unpaid labour at (and for) IBM
- IBM's Financial Performance in IBM's Own Words: Money Down, Debt Up Sharply
- IBM isn't a healthy company
- In Dominica, GNU/Linux Has Risen to All-Time High in 2026
- a lot of America is moving to Free software this year
- The "Alicante Mafia" - Part XV - EPO is on Strike Tomorrow, Lots to be Angry About (Except Money)
- We'll soon finish the series
- Gemini Links 29/01/2026: "Lady Audley's Secret" and "The Value Of Our Fear" (Carney's Speech)
- Links for the day
- Emmanuel Macron on Europe's GAFAM Addiction/Dependence: "There is No Such Thing as Happy Vassalage"
- Microsoft has long worked to prevent commodification
- It's Official, Mass Layoffs at IBM Again (2026)
- In a matter of days we'll just see how much IBM's debt has grown
- Over at Tux Machines...
- GNU/Linux news for the past day
- IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, January 28, 2026
- IRC logs for Wednesday, January 28, 2026
- Laos and Microsoft: About 10% Windows, 0% Bing
- There are many more nations like it
- EPO Technical Meetings Show no Breakthroughs, a Strike Goes Ahead This Friday
- Apparently there was another (fourth) meeting today [...] The industrial actions are working already
- Google News as the Sole Source of Slop About "Linux", a Feeder of Slopfarms or Serial Sloppers
- At least it's no longer hard to 'contain' the slop problem, knowing which domains are the culprits and seeing that Google is their main 'feeder'
- IBM to Announce 'Results' Shortly, Expect Lots of Chaff Like "Quantum" and "Hey Hi" (Nothing Material to Show)
- We're still seeing layoffs and an exodus
- Links 28/01/2026: ChatGPT Has Financial Problems, White House Sharing Fakes (or Deepfakes) in Official Accounts/Sites
- Links for the day
- Gemini Links 28/01/2026: FlatCube NES Port Finished and "Why I Still Write on the Small Web in 2026"
- Links for the day
- Upcoming Techrights Series About the Public Appearances of Richard M. Stallman (RMS) in the United States
- we plan to drop all pretences about "Open Source" and instead focus on Software Freedom
- Upcoming Techrights Series About the Experiences of EPO Insiders
- We'll start the new series some time next week
- Links 28/01/2026: Microsoft Ordered to Stop Spying on School Children, Apple's Brand Tarnished by Its Complicity With Human Rights Abusers
- Links for the day
- Upcoming Techrights Series About the Failure of the Solicitors Regulation Authority (SRA) to Stop Hired Guns Who Work for Americans That Abuse Women
- The SRA has demonstrated nothing but considerable incompetence at many levels
- The "Alicante Mafia" - Part XIV - The EPO Vice-President Steve Rowan and the Hidden Alicante Connection is a Big Deal
- We'll soon take a closer look at Ernst
- Gemini Links 28/01/2026: Particle and AirMIDI
- Links for the day
- Amandine Jambert (EDPB/CNIL/FSFE), motive for lying, trust in blockchain and encryption
- Reprinted with permission from Daniel Pocock
- Over at Tux Machines...
- GNU/Linux news for the past day
- IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, January 27, 2026
- IRC logs for Tuesday, January 27, 2026
Comments
Dennis Murczak
2009-10-22 23:26:19
First ad is about a "Windows phone" ("carry your Windows around with you"). It's full of happy-looking people in a park doing uninteresting, unrelated stuff, and a girl on a bench calling someone from her "Windows phone".
The second ad is about Windows 7 and unintentionally very ridiculous. It's about a girl on the train with her laptop, talking about how "it" doesn't crash (a word was used with the primary meaning of "airplane crash", so I supposed she was very afraid of flying). After I noticed it was rather about her laptop, I got a glance at KDE with two Dolphin windows and an mplayer-ish window showing two romantic baboons at night. And all the talk about how the laptop will never crash again :-) Finally a solid Linux ad I thought, could need slightly better acting though. Suddenly I heard her say something about "Windows 7", at which point I was honestly surprised. The following (and final) line from her "I'm a PC and created this myself" made me burst into laughter.
End user marketing: botched. Badly.
Roy Schestowitz
2009-10-22 23:39:03
Dennis Murczak
2009-10-23 00:37:12
Besides of the ads, there was a short interview on another channel with a few fanboys that told me nothing new about Windows culture (buy it for the "kicks", even if it's just a service pack).
Roy Schestowitz
2009-10-23 00:46:11
Yuhong Bao
2009-10-23 02:12:51
Dennis Murczak
2009-10-23 01:13:30
As for the selling points, it seems everyone here is at least rudimentarily informed about Windows/Vista 7's nature as a paid for service pack, but hey it's new, so everyone has to get it.
Yuhong Bao
2009-10-23 02:22:04
Dennis Murczak
2009-10-23 14:09:28
Yes, the ads are misleading in that they overstate their case. I expect at least as much backlash from this than from Vista, because a lot of buyers will be really disappointed, especially in terms of software/driver compatibility and a security model that can still be exploited by automated attacks.
Roy Schestowitz
2009-10-23 15:10:20
Yuhong Bao
2009-10-23 15:26:34
Yuhong Bao
2009-10-24 19:14:35
Roy Schestowitz
2009-10-24 20:42:35
Yuhong Bao
2009-10-25 00:05:22
Roy Schestowitz
2009-10-25 00:23:48